The 'Dog Park Phenomenon' - Fleas Becoming Resistant To Dog Flea Meds - The Animal Radio® Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mmmmm.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Celebrating the connection with our pets. This is Animal Radio
featuring veterinarian doctor Debbie White, groomer Joey Valani, news director
Laurie Brooks, and now from the Red Barn Studios. Here
are your hosts, Hal Abrams and Judy Francis.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
By the way, you can ask your questions directly from
the Animal Radio app. It's free for your iPhone and Android.
Your questions for doctor Debbie or for Joey Volani. What
are you talking about today, Joey.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
We're going to talk about how fleas can affect your
dog's skin. If today, if to they get.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Bitten flee what is that? Flee dermatitis?

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Please? Flea by flea bye dermatitis. It's what it's It's
what it's called and could be nasty or it could
be something that could be treated pretty pretty easily.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
We've caught in time, yep, one of our cats had
that really really bad, just a couple of flea bites,
but a steroids shot fixed that right on up pretty fast. Also,
that pill that they're so controversial about fortis.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
You know, there's there's a lot of controversy with that,
is right, there's a lot of vet. Want Eve to
prescribe it right now?

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, I guess you got to sort of weigh the
risks and the benefits in a particular situation, like I
wouldn't give Nike comfortis every month as flea prevention, right.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Or a cat that had, you know, health problems to
begin with.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Well, I guess it's like every other medication, you know,
even for people where basically when you get that warning,
you know, could give you a high blood pressure stroke, this,
that and the other thing, and you know, a hundred
people taking that, one person you know ends up getting it.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
So one person four hours later is still there and
they have to go to the hospital. Okay, that's a
little blue pill. You know what what ambient here's the
stupid thing. They make ambient blue and they make Viagra blue.
Don't get them confused, whatever you do.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
Okay, you're not supposed to take them by colors.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah, just take both, Just take both.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
It can really ruin an evening tammy. What are you
working on in the newsroom.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
We're talking about geeps geepsp geeps.

Speaker 6 (01:55):
Yes, keep.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
It actually is an animal. It is the common of
a goat and a sheep. It was an accident it
was a surprise. And its name is Butterfly. So people
talk about geeps, but the butterfly the keep, and let
me tell you, as crazy a name as that is,
she is the cutest darn thing on earth.

Speaker 6 (02:19):
Keeps.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
This is probably the cutest geep you've ever seen.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
Absolutely the cutest keep on Earth.

Speaker 6 (02:24):
Okay, maybe the only.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Keep on Earth. More on the way right here. I'm
going to stick around just for that. By the way,
I'm glad you're tucked away in your little newsroom today.
You sound like, uh, maybe a little head cold. What's
going on?

Speaker 6 (02:35):
You know what?

Speaker 5 (02:36):
That that's long gone? That that's like three days long gone.
This is the aftermouth. And seriously, this is the most
sound I've been able to make in like five days.
So it's a little raspby, I know, but I'm so
proud of it.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
I noticed the rats in the corner. We have rats
in our studios. They're coming out now just when they
hear your voice. I don't know what that's about, but
I hope you're gonna get better. Just pumped that vitamin,
seeing the orange juice, and you keep that door closed
because I don't want to get that stuff.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
Okay, I got no bugs.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Let's see. Oh, this is a cool story. Out of Oakland.
There was a truck accident. A truck spilled a shipment
of tropical fruit all over the highways, Highway five eighty
just outside of Oakland, thirteen thousand pounds of it. So
what they do with it? They donated it to the zoo.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Oh wow, that is brilliant.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
That was good sort of wasting.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Yeah, so throw it in the trash.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Plantains and jackfruit. What's a jackfruit? I've never seen jackfruit.
That's not a square one, is it?

Speaker 3 (03:36):
No? No, I think it's I think it's that it's
green and it's like prickly. I think.

Speaker 6 (03:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Okay, Well they enjoyed thirteen thousand pounds of jackfruit and plantain.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
But you know what was a little more fascinating about
that story is that these animals had never seen this
kind of fruit before, and they hadn't tasted before, so
they were a little hesitant because it was odd. I
guess they had normal fruit before, you know, fruit, but
not this exotic tropical fruit.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Okay, I can tell you all.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
About a jackfruit.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Oh you looked it up. She looked connected to the absolutely.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
It is native to parts of the South and Southeast Asia.
It's thought to have originated in the rainforests of India.
And it looks like it kind of looks like a pair.
It's kind of light lime green and real prickly on
the outside. Joey, Yeah, yeah, And I thought, oh gosh,
some of Oh my gosh, I'm looking at one that

(04:31):
looks like it's about twelve inches. It's some of them
get huge, they're not little. And when you open them up,
it looks like they kind of have like orange slices
in them.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
Cool looking.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Well, they got a tropical buffet they got over there,
kidd Okay, let's go to the phones for you right now.
Oh by the way, Marty Becker's on the way. Did
I mention that?

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Not yet?

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Now it's done, and let's head to Silla. Is it
a Silla? Where are you from? Ascila?

Speaker 7 (05:01):
I mean Covina, California.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Oh okay, what's up? What's going on with your animal?
I got the dream team here?

Speaker 7 (05:07):
Oh at my only radio?

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Just between you and me and about.

Speaker 8 (05:11):
Stepter, Debbie. You're just talking to me. We're just two
friends having a conversation.

Speaker 9 (05:16):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (05:16):
Well, the reason that I called is that I don't
have any pets right now. I used to have a
little dog and a little cat. But I was kind
of embarrassed in what I called yesterday, and they told
me it was okay to call. I've been distressed because
I have little neighborhood cats coming to my house and
they come to the north, south, east, west all the
borders of my yard, and the dear little cat just

(05:38):
look at me and they poop and they pee and
they do things and the poop and they have boweled movements.
I'm a nurse, register nurse. They have boweled movements. And
the year and they and the thing is that it's
causing me an anxiety and distressed because it's our full
smell and it comes into my entire house and you
walk up to my house, and I don't know what

(05:59):
to do. And so I felt like, well, I'm not
calling about like how to feed them or I just
want to know this question. I didn't know if it
was okay to ask this question on your show.

Speaker 8 (06:09):
Sure, yeah, no, that's I mean, it's a rational question
because you know, not everybody shears the love of cats
being outdoors.

Speaker 7 (06:16):
Do you love I love cats, dogs, horses, I love
the ring gears question you had yesterday, But I just
wanted to know, since you're the experts, if there's something
I can do that's kind and not cruel to have
them kind of like realize that they shouldn't. But they're animals,
you know, so I don't Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 8 (06:33):
Nobody wants poop in there in the garden. So so
let me ask you this. You said you don't have cats.
Do you have any pets? None at all?

Speaker 10 (06:39):
And have you ever done now?

Speaker 7 (06:41):
I used to have a little dog, and I used
to have a little cat, but my cat mean news
in heaven. But I don't have any pets. I've had
several dogs and they kind of no longer care. The
bull shell and a little fluffy dog that was just
a little cute fluffy dog.

Speaker 8 (06:55):
Okay, Well, and I think I think the way that
you're approaching this is very very kind because definitely, you know,
we love cats, and I love cats all over the place,
but I don't always want them urinating and defecating close
to my living quarters. So I think that there are
very good ways that we can do to keep these
kiddies away and to encourage them to go somewhere else.

(07:16):
To do their to do their business. Now, one of
the simplest things that I will use that's very natural
is I'll start to sprits citrus oils, or even just
take lemon rinds, orange rinds, and you can actually put
those in the garden areas and the corners of your
house in generous cooking.

Speaker 7 (07:36):
Okay, lemonies and orange so.

Speaker 8 (07:38):
In general, citrus sense are offensive to cats and they
don't like to kind of hang out in those areas.
So that's something you can do and it's not going
to harm them. Now, the other things, and depending on
the weather, what you can arrange. There are some very
good products that are motion activated deterrents that are kind
to the critters.

Speaker 7 (07:59):
But what want to keep ears where it's piercing their
ear drums.

Speaker 8 (08:02):
Or you know what I mean, not really the sound
ones that those don't really have much value. The things
that will work are going to be more physical deterrence.
So there's motion activated sprinklers that if it's not gold out,
you can definitely use those where once they break the
the eye of the beam, the sprinkler goes off, and
you know, cats aren't really hip at getting squirted with water.

(08:25):
So and that's the value is that once there's movement
in the animals in the area, they get the negative aversion.
So it's not something we you know, I've had people
say I'm going to have a squirt gun and squirt
those cats away. You just it's not reasonably you can't
do that. There also are the same type and variety
of motion activated deterrence, and they'll they'll express of some

(08:46):
of that canned air, So that's kind of sound and
that works to deter cats as well. So you just
might need to go online or check out your local
pat store to see if they have those products, but
they can be helpful. And then the other thing that
you know, taking a hand from folks that hunt, is
that you can get predator urine, so things like coyote

(09:07):
urine or mountain lion urine, and you can get those
extracts that you know they use for hunting.

Speaker 7 (09:13):
Those both also be like overwhelming and then purpose, well,
it depends on what overwhelming is if if the presence.

Speaker 8 (09:21):
Of a little bit of it helps. Did you hear
those cats and if they're polluting it.

Speaker 7 (09:26):
Is like the whole halse my house smell, and it's
because it's everywhere. It's like, I don't know why they
decided to come here. Is there a reason why they
decided to come here?

Speaker 8 (09:37):
Well, usually they'll they'll either seek out whether That's why
I was asking if you had animals recently, because if
there were cats in the home recently, that might still
be an attraction.

Speaker 7 (09:46):
Like all the neighborhood cats like to come here because
I see different colored ones. Yeah, and then the fan
and they just look at me and the go okay, hello.

Speaker 8 (09:57):
So you might just be in the hotbed of your
neighbors and that might be. The Other thing is just
to have a communication with your neighbors and let them
know what's going on and that your concerns and you
know that you recognize you know you don't want this
in your yard and and certainly the health implications if
you're out gardening with fecal matter in your garden.

Speaker 7 (10:14):
I think, I think, I think they're trying to tell
me something, honestly, because you know how they communicate, and
all animals communicate, and I'm thinking there must maybe there's
another message, honest, there must be other than them just
going to the bathroom. There must be some other message.

Speaker 8 (10:30):
I think they want your house.

Speaker 7 (10:33):
But I think there's another message. So after talking to
you now I really get it.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Well, good things.

Speaker 7 (10:38):
Hopefully that helps, Yes, it does help a lot, tremendously.
And well, when you said the lemon limes and the
orange rind, and then he says, sitch as oils, what
did you mean by such as oils? Because some things
are poisonous, So what did you mean by situs oil?

Speaker 10 (10:52):
Right?

Speaker 8 (10:52):
Well, you can just do something as simple as taking
you know, some lemon juice. There are essential oils that
you can use in diluted form, and you can use
those as well. So yeah, those kind of things.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Doctor Debbie. Don't they also hate citronella oil?

Speaker 8 (11:07):
Yeah, and citronella's kind of got that kind of pungent odor.

Speaker 11 (11:11):
You know.

Speaker 8 (11:12):
I will say that I probably haven't alone with citronella.
I haven't had the most efficacy with that, and especially
with dogs. I don't know about you, but I don't
always find those to be a real great deterrent.

Speaker 7 (11:22):
Okay, Well, I want to thank all of you, and
I listen to your show.

Speaker 10 (11:27):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Well, thank you very much. We appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (11:29):
Thank you for that you have for the animals, and
it's so fascinating the variety of topicstrum up on your show.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
We have a lot of fun and it takes listeners
like yours.

Speaker 7 (11:38):
It's contagious. It's fun. You can feel it over the air.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
It is contagious. Well, thanks for your call.

Speaker 7 (11:45):
Okay, thank you so much. I appreciate it. Have a
good day on you too.

Speaker 6 (11:48):
Right bye.

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Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yes, what are you working on in the newsroom there?

Speaker 4 (13:38):
Oh boy?

Speaker 5 (13:38):
We are going to talk about something very controversial to
cat owners, and that is declawing cats. Oh yeah, that's
my reaction to anybody says declawing and I immediately like eh.
But the American Veterinary Medical Association has amended its policy
and maybe I don't know personal opinion here, Maybe they

(14:00):
didn't go far enough on this amending, but we'll talk
about it and see where they stand on this whole issue.

Speaker 6 (14:05):
Now.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, okay, Well, I remember as a child having a
cat that was de claude because we didn't know that
this was not the right thing to do to cats
and that it would actually cause more problems, which it is.

Speaker 5 (14:16):
The thing people think. It's just gosh, it sounds terrible enough,
just taking the nail out, but that is not the truth.
It's actually amputating the very first digit of the cats toes.
And my husband Randy, when we got together, had a
cat that was declaude, and my first thing was to
lecture him so severely about having.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Had it done.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
And he liked you. He had no idea what he'd
actually done and the problems that could cause down the road.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yes, they need to be able to scratch like that,
or are you gonna say, Joey goush.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yeah, Well, the veentarians in a lot of cases don't
say anything. They just they just go in and end
up doing it. I mean some do, but in a
lot of cases, because I know a few people that
have had the cat's decord and had no clue of
what you know, the trauma that was going to you know,
put this cat through until after it was done, and
then they realized that. They said, if they would have
known ahead of time the procedure had happened, that they

(15:08):
probably wouldn't never had it done.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Well, there's some events that you know, they have a
special you know, get a neuter and d claw right
off the bat and those are featured in the website
Dclaw Hall of Shame dot com. Check that out.

Speaker 10 (15:21):
Oh wow, I'm.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Glad you guys know that, right. I mean, they make
caps that actually go over to nails they applicated. Yeah,
soft pause exactly and yeah exactly. They're cool looking and
depending on how active the cat is, they'll stay on
for a month or longer.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah. You know what, as I get clawed right now
from a cat. Uh, I couldn't put those little claw
paw things on those caps, those little colorful I'm sorry.
I want you you guys already dressed your dogs up.
Now you're going to be putting these little things on
the cats. Here's my thought, if you're going to have
a cat, you just got to get used to the fat.

(16:00):
That's the life is the life of a cat. They
like to claw and if you can redirect it towards
a scratching post or something, all the better at a
young age.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
But not only that. When you remove the nails, you
remove their way of defending themselves, and they can start
biting or they withdraw because they can't defend themselves. And
sometimes they stop using the litter because it hurts. They
lost their first knuckle and they can't dig.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
And also grooming, they use their claws in their grooming.
You know, the city of West Hollywood a number of
years ago banned declawing. No veterinarian. No anybody in the
city of West Hollywood in southern California can do declawing.
It is illegal in that city. That's how serious they
are about it.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
Country.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Yes, something that house said which is funny is you
know people that get cats, you just understand it. Well,
that's no different than people get dogs and say, my
dog is shedding.

Speaker 5 (16:51):
I mean I expect, right, this goes with pet ownership.
And I don't know who's a cat. What is a
cat owner without a few scratch marks, right, it's like
a badge of honor the world.

Speaker 7 (17:03):
I have a cat.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Well, it's just like having kids. You're not going to
have anything nice in your house. You can't. You can't
be eighteen years animals, Yes, perpetual kid for eighteen years.
This is But we love it, don't we.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
Hey, what you get back is way more important than
a cool couch.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Right, my baby.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
As you look at my my reclining chair has a
It shows the stuffing in the middle where my dog
digs to china in it. So she's dug a hole
in my chair. That's a fairly new chair and I
got this hole that shows all the pham patting right
in the middle.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
You mean she's not well behaved? I mean you are.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
No, this is this is just her outlet, her outlet customized.

Speaker 14 (17:45):
She was.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
She was making a you know how the dogs dig
and make a den for you? Yes, she made an
She's a giver. She is a giver.

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(19:28):
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Speaker 5 (21:02):
This is an animal radio news update, and I'm Tammy Triheo.
So do you get kisses from your dog or your cat?

Speaker 14 (21:09):
Well?

Speaker 5 (21:09):
Who doesn't? Maybe, though it's not such a great idea.
Doctor Ira Roth of the University of Georgia College of
Veterinary Medicine says dogs in particular carries some pretty nasty
germs in their mouths. The risk of getting sick from
close contact with your pet is pretty low if you're healthy,
But if you have a chronic health condition or a
suppressed immune system, sharing germs might not be safe for

(21:31):
you at all. Rotha's symptoms can be pretty nasty. Stomach cramps, diarrhea, vomiting,
that sort of thing. So what do you get when
you cross a goat and a sheep a geep, really,
there is one. Her name is Butterfly, and she's the
product of a pygmy goat and a sheep, and she
was born a couple of weeks ago at the Mife

(21:53):
Heading Zoo in Scottsdale, Arizona. Nobody at the zoo even
knew that the mother sheep was pregnant. Butterfly actually appears
to be the first of her kind. She was named
Butterfly because of her various black spots. She has the
feet and the face of her goat father, but the
fuzzy wool and the longer tail of her sheep mama.
Now it kind of sounds weird here, but she is

(22:15):
absolutely adorable and they say she acts more like a
goat than a sheep. Years ago, I inherited an absolutely
gorgeous fur cape from my mom.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
I wouldn't wear it.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
I don't wear fur, but I didn't want to discard
it either, And apparently there's a lot of other people
who've had similar dilemmas. Now, a national organization called Born
Free USA has come up with a pretty fantastic idea. Recently,
it collected unwanted furs and sent them to wildlife rehab
centers in Texas, California, and Missouri, where they were cut

(22:45):
up into small pieces and used for orphaned babies and
injured animals to snuggle in. Sounds like a pretty good use.
I'm Tammy Tricho. Yet more breaking animal news anytime at
animal radio dot com.

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(23:23):
heroes we've had since we started this segment. Just some
amazing people a few weeks ago, Cornelius Austin, Dorothy Hunter
who ate the dog food for thirty days. All these people,
and there's one thing that's in common. They're all helping
the animals, doing something and going above and beyond for
the animals or animal And I'll say that because you

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could be helping one animal, or you could be helping
hundreds of animals. We want to know about you, someone,
Please have someone nominate you if you're doing this. If
you know somebody that's doing something above and beyond, nominate
them by sending an email to your voice at animal
radio dot com. Judy goes through those emails and she's
looking for heroes every week. Now. Is it easy to

(24:04):
find heroes? Honestly?

Speaker 4 (24:06):
You know, I know they're out there, but I just
can't track them down. I know there's a lot of
people out there. I just need to hear about more.
You always hear about bad things in the news. I
want to hear about the good thing.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
And that's what this is all about. Yes, and you
hear about the hero dogs and the hero animals. This
is the hero people, the people that are doing.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
Things for our aunt and they're not doing it for
the recognition, so we don't hear about them.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
And this week's hero of the week is Sylvie Bordeaux. Bordeaux,
I assume is that correct?

Speaker 10 (24:31):
Yes?

Speaker 17 (24:32):
It is Hi.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
It is French, is it not?

Speaker 10 (24:34):
It's French. Yes, I was born and raised in Montreal, Canada.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Well, now you have invented something that's kind of it.
I'm gonna let you explain it, because it's hard to
explain you've invented something for blind dogs.

Speaker 6 (24:45):
Is that correct?

Speaker 10 (24:46):
I certainly did. I have a fourteen year old toy
poodle named Muffin. He went blind a couple of years
ago due to cataracts, and he was very depressed. He
was bumping into the walls and I was very distressed
about it. Sure people were telling me, you may have
to think about putting him down, and that was just
not an option for me. I was really determined to

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find some sort of solution for him. So I had
a couple of ideas. I hired sewers.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
You hired what I'm sorry, I didn't hear you. You
hired what worst.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Things?

Speaker 18 (25:17):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Stress sets?

Speaker 10 (25:20):
Okay, contractors. You know, because I was working with piping,
I was working with wire, I was working with cushions, grammets.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
That there was a whole bunch of what were you
trying to invent?

Speaker 10 (25:31):
I wanted to invent a halo, like a walking sticks,
like a headgear protection, like a bumper, oh, so that
he can navigate and walk around, but there'd be something
that would alert him, so that it would redirect him.
I'm happy to tell you successfully I have. I've made
that happen. So I have two passings now, and my
product muff and tailor is on the market.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
That is absolutely fabulous.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Isn't that genius?

Speaker 10 (25:55):
Thank you? That really is is it's a three piece
item you put on the wholeness and it makes them
feel very cuddled. Because blind dogs have a lot of anxiety.
They feel very insecure because they're bumping everywhere. And some
dogs go blind suddenly, some of them it's a gradual.
Everyone has a different experience, but either way, what they
do have in common when faced with blindness there's anxiety,

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depressed and very unsure themselves, very scared, very timid, and
so with the harness, it makes them feel very cuddled.
And then I have a design of angel wings that
sits on their neck. Okay, so you put their angel
wing on the neck and there's already a halo attached
to the angel wings and there's a little cushion and

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an angel ways so they feel cuddled. You can sleep
with it. It doesn't interfere with any of their daily activities.
And then their halo guides them. So the minute the
halo taps a heart surface, it alerts the wings that
sit on the neck and they just automatically get redirected.
It's really incredible to watch because now they're blessed blind dogs.
My thing is to make blind dogs trendy and get

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them attention. And so many of them, unfortunately, are dropped
off at shelters and they're number one to kill this.
Can you imagine a dog being with a family for
fourteen fifteen years and then all of a sudden dealing
with blindness and a cold shelter.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
Oh that's heartless. That would be so wrong.

Speaker 10 (27:16):
It's unnecessary, Okay, And maybe the families are missing for
maybe they're scared. They're thinking, oh, the only way to
correct is a six thousand dollars surgery that they can't afford. Well,
today there's the klo available for the must haloes. That's
all they need and their dog. It's a second chance
for blind dogs and they strive with it. I have

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thousands of them all over the world right now.

Speaker 9 (27:40):
I'm global.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
Are they just for small dogs or do you make
a size all?

Speaker 10 (27:44):
I make them for every size dog. I even have
miniature horses that are asking me to make them, and
for catsam becoming Noah's Ark.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Wow, how many have you made so far?

Speaker 9 (27:54):
Thousands?

Speaker 1 (27:55):
And the website second Chance for Blinddogs dot org. What's
over there.

Speaker 10 (27:59):
Okay, well, I want to share my story real quick.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Please take your time.

Speaker 10 (28:03):
Then went blind. Okay. There was one day he fell
down the stairs. I was very concerned, so I took
him to a vexa. I'll make sure it was he
didn't hurt himself internally, because he's a little guy. He's
only six pounds seven pounds. So in the course of
that I was working on my prototype. We discovered he
had a mask who was very concerned, so I took
him to an interness. This interness did was really pushing

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me to do exploratory surgery, and I did not want
to do it, especially in muffins. You know, he was
only like eleven twelve at the time. I didn't I
don't want to risk his life on hemorrhaging.

Speaker 9 (28:35):
Timbet. So he told me he.

Speaker 10 (28:37):
Could do an aspiration at tissue, which is a very
simple procedure, and he says it's eighty percent accuracy, and
I said, you know, that's good enough for me. So
they did an aspiration that tissue took five minutes. It
was very simple and it was benign. So I said, okay,
as long as it's benign, I feel all right about that.
And then I changed his whole foods, I supplements, et cetera,
et cetera. A month later, he was doing really, really well,

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and I just to go get it checked one more time.
And this particular and careless was really trying to pushed
me for the surgery again. Took Muffin in the back,
comes back to me. He's white as a sheet and says,
something horribly went wrong.

Speaker 9 (29:12):
I said, what do you mean.

Speaker 10 (29:12):
I said, my dog's healthy, he's great, and he says, unfortunately,
I lacerated him by mistake, and he's on the table
bleeding to death, and we have to do immediate blood transfusion,
and I need you to brace yourself for the worst
because if I lacerated his main art read, there's no
way he's going to survive. So I was devastated to
the least. And my first prototype was coming the very

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next day. Okay, So I went in the back and
Muffin's fighting for his life's on oxygen and I could
barely stand. I can't even believe this is all happening.
So I sipped and I said, please, please fight. But
I know you've been having a rough time with the blindness,
but mommy has something coming and it's coming tomorrow and
fight because we're going to be advocates for blind dog.

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It's going to be your legacy. Okay, your life is
not going to be in vain. I need you to fight.
We're going to make this happen. Home and I gathered
all his belongings and I prayed all night and I said, God,
just please give me a second chance, and I will
devote myself to blind dogs. I will figure it out,
I'll make it happen. Just please, please, just give us
a second chance. So that's why I name my nonprofit

(30:16):
Second Chances for Blind Dogs. Because I'm lucky now that
I after you know, quite some time and been getting
patterns and all of that, I've got the product. I've
got it down. I've got it for all big sizes.
It's working. It's given all these blind dogs and leased
some life. But there's a lot of them that are
in shelters and rescues. And my dream is I want

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to be able to get muffins titled to all these
dogs in shelters and rescues to help them navigate into
their forever homes. That's all they need. I want to
take the stigma of blindness away. Because when people see
them and then all of a sudden they see them
with little rains wings on and you see them navigating,
you're gonna want to take them home, underdogs. And so

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that's where I'm trying to responds for my nonprofit Second
Chances for Blind Dogs. This way, that's what I can
do with my halos as well.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
N see, you're also coming out with different designer ones.
You've got some quarterback ones.

Speaker 10 (31:09):
Because the quarterback's the star, he's the popular player in football.
But you know he's got his blind tied covered.

Speaker 9 (31:16):
He's got blindbackers.

Speaker 10 (31:17):
Oh, the quarterback's got My thing is Muffins Halo. We've
got your blind side covered, Sylvia.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
I want you to go over to him right now
and give him a big old hug from all of
us here at Animal Radio, and thank you so much
for what you've done. I encourage listeners to check out
your website. Two of them. I've got Muffins Helo dot
com and Second Chances for Blinddogs dot org. We'll put
both of those links over at Animal radio dot com. Sylvia,
our hero of the week, Thank you so much for

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what you do.

Speaker 10 (31:47):
Thank you so much for helping me spread the word.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Keep up the good work now, okay, I promise.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
You that was my favorite hero story I think.

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Speaker 1 (32:44):
Let's head to line four where we have Robert for Joey. Hey, Robert,
how are you doing all right?

Speaker 6 (32:49):
Good?

Speaker 1 (32:49):
What's going on?

Speaker 18 (32:50):
I've got a little female ball claw probably about six
years old, cam the Thirteen Towns. When I go to
clip her toenails, she goes bananas and what I have
to do currently is wait till I catch her asleep

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and then I might get the clip one or two
toenails and after that we're done. I mean, she won't
let me do it. I need to get them clip.
They're getting bad and I just don't know how to
don't know how to handle it.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Well, you got the Piranha of all little dogs, you know,
when Chua was coming to the salon. I have to
tell you sometimes we cringe to cut their nails. So
this isn't This definitely is not an easy task. But
let me ask you a question. Did you ever try
doing it with two people?

Speaker 18 (33:40):
Yes, she will death. I've tried to hold her and
get my wife to do the clipping and vice versa.
And she doesn't bite. She just she will tuck those
little feet up under her and and she she wants
to be a holder, and she won't touch the feet

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up under her and fight you to you're just.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
I can picture it. I definitely can picture it.

Speaker 20 (34:09):
Now.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
To see the advantage that we have as grooms is
we have a you know, grooming table with with a
with a safety loop, so it makes it easier. But
what you can do is try this take a towel
and wrap your dog in a towel, only exposing the
leg that needs to be cut at that time. So
what it's gonna do, it's gonna immobilize and you gotta
You're gonna have to make it a little bit tight,

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but not too tight where it's uncomfortable, but tight enough
where she's not going to claw you up. And the
good thing about it is is she doesn't bite. So
because she doesn't bite, that actually you don't have to
worry about the mouth. And what I would do is
I'd wrap her in a towel, expose that cut those nails,
and you know what the important thing is in a
situation like this, because you have a dog that's really

(34:52):
really nervous about having their nails cut. To begin with,
I wouldn't cut too much off at a time. I wouldn't.
I don't wanna make the dog bleed. Now, even if
the dog bleeds, you know what, it's an old wives tale.
They're not gonna bleed to death. It will make a mess,
but sometimes it could traumatize your dog because it is
a pinch and it's you know, they're going to feel it.
So what I would do is I would do it

(35:14):
more often. The other thing about doing it more often
is your dog will finally get used to it, maybe
after you know, five, ten, fifteen years, they'll get used
to it. No, just joking, they'll get used to it,
probably within within the first first few times. Knowing that
you're not gonna hurt them, and by immobilizing them, it

(35:35):
also makes them a little bit more comfortable because when
they feel like that you're in control, they're not as nervous.
When they don't feel like you're in control and you're
trying to do something they don't like, they're gonna fight
even harder. So that's what I would do. And I
definitely recommend cutting over grinding in a situation like this
because it's quicker. Grinding takes a little bit longer, and

(35:57):
the sound of the grinder sometimes will spook the dog.
So what I would do is I would just take
a little off. I would try to do it once
a week. Wrap your dog in a towel, and each leg.
As you're done, put that leg in a towel, pull
out the other one, Okay, and hopefully that'll help you.

Speaker 18 (36:12):
Got it? Got it? I want to beat I want
to beat my own drums right quick. I'm a truck driver.
I don't know if you know of this, you probably do,
but there are dog rescue places out here that use
truck drivers to transport dogs to a new home to

(36:32):
someone that adopts a dog out of state, and they
know that particular truck driver is going through that town
to pick that dog up, going to the to the point,
b uh, we do. There are structors out here that
do that. I happen to be one of them.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
And that's great.

Speaker 18 (36:48):
You could check with people could check with their own
uh local dog pound or adoption agency and see if
that they have truckers that do that. It's free. We
don't charge nothing. We just we do it to help
the call.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
That's great. You know what's funny about that is eleven
years ago, that's how I got one of my Krent
Terriers through carent Terry to rescue. The dog came up
from South Carolina and I had to meet them at
the Vincelin Body truck stop on a New Jersey Turnpike
and and yeah, he came. He came in a semi
and it was it was great. It was great, and

(37:23):
it's good to have people like you out there.

Speaker 18 (37:26):
Thank you again. I'll try the towel trick. I had
heard of that. I just I just hadn't done it.
Uh the softy you know, she start to le acting up,
I just quit, you know, until I wait till she
goes to sleep or something. What about using finadrill to
calm her down.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Bennadril doesn't have the effect that it does on us
on dogs. It's funny because and it's something else that
I know a lot about, because benadrul actually helps keep
mass sell tumors on dogs that day. So I have
I have a dog that had a problem and we
give him three bena drill a day and he's about

(38:04):
twenty two pounds and something like that. Because that would
knock me out completely, and it doesn't knock him out
at all. Matter of fact, it doesn't. It doesn't even
show any effect on them. And when I asked my veterinarian,
my veterinarians said that they just don't have the same
effect to it that we do. So you know what,
I wouldn't because I don't think that it's really gonna help.

Speaker 18 (38:23):
Okay, all right, I'll do the towel tricks again.

Speaker 11 (38:27):
You got it.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Good luck with that. Robert, and thanks for what you do.
I think we talked to Judy. Did we talked to it?

Speaker 4 (38:32):
You know there's an organization. Do you belong to an
organization that does this with trucking dogs?

Speaker 18 (38:37):
Yes, I have a I have a distant relative that
lives in Dallas, Texas, and when I'm going through Dallas,
I'll call her and say, look, I'm going to point A,
point D, point C, and you've got something go in
that direction. You know, I've even relayed off on other driver.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
But is there an organization that you belong to?

Speaker 18 (38:59):
Not enough, but there is organizations out there who specifically
designed druggers transport pets or something along that line.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
And we spoke to someone operation of something I don't
remember what it was called.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Back back a few years ago. We spoke to someone
that was working with that. Well, you're doing good work.
Thanks for keeping America moving. We appreciate it. It's Animal
Radio doctor Debbie answering your vet medical questions. Dog Father
Joey Vaalani all for you. Right now, Lucky Dog.

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Speaker 1 (40:38):
And another big one in store for you today coming
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Speaker 4 (40:47):
Until I was afraid of him, was he?

Speaker 14 (40:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (40:50):
I was.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
When I was a kid, I was afraid of dogs.
There was one big, bad dog in the neighborhood and
I would run home from school, hoping never to encounter
that dog.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
Oh see, I went right up to him. I got
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kept going up to every straight off and I still do.
I still do. Didn't deter me.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Let's answer your questions for doctor Debbie or dog father
Joey Volani. Where are you calling from, Lee?

Speaker 22 (41:11):
I am calling from Florence, California.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Oh okay, Well what's going on today?

Speaker 8 (41:16):
Oh Ki?

Speaker 22 (41:17):
So what I wanted to ask is, I'm kind of
active in my community and I keep my yard clean.
But my neighbors they have the problem with fleas that
is astronomical. In fact, one of the puppies died and
it had so many fleas on it. I had never
experienced anything like that before. And what I'd like to

(41:40):
know is how can I help them get rid of
the fleas that are in their yard. We called the
professional exterminator, okay, and it didn't work. It did not work.
What can we do to get the bugs the fleas
out of the dirt?

Speaker 8 (41:55):
Okay? Well, the thing is to remember is that as
long as there's anything warm footed going by in the environment,
you've got a food source for fleas. So it's a
bit unrealistic to say we're going to get rid of
all the fleas outside because you are in an area
where fleas exist. They're naturally out in the environment. Humidity, moisture, vibration,
all those things helped the stimulate the development of the

(42:18):
different life cycles of the flea. So for me, I
would say that the focus is really to make sure
that we're effectively treating the pets and that the indoor
environment what we can control. Now, you know, a professional
exterminator can do some help outdoors, but we definitely need
to make sure that the animals in the house are
fully treated because they're mostly the food source.

Speaker 22 (42:40):
Now, what do you say about the fleas. I have
never experienced a flea like this that has a sticky,
tight substance that's black. And when I left to go
help my neighbor, when I come back, four hours later,
this is sticky substance on my mob piece's head in

(43:00):
three different places, and she has scratched and itched that
until it was slightly bloody. It was red and I
was going to take up to the vet anyway. But anyway,
what I want to know what is kind of flea
is that? What is that? And when I'm boming that
flea it will not come off with a flea comb.

(43:21):
I have to use a pair of tweezers to pull that.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Aw flee out.

Speaker 8 (43:27):
I mean, that sounds a little interesting.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (43:28):
I would probably want to get a look at it,
just so that we can see, because mostly fleas have
an appearance they're kind of either reddish to brownish. They
actually kind of almost have a flat appearance to them right.

Speaker 22 (43:39):
Right, the ones that are not pregnant too, and then
they're black. And then when they get that pregnant bulb
on the back of.

Speaker 8 (43:47):
Them, they definitely they get they they have their blood meal.

Speaker 22 (43:51):
Yeah, a brownish cannish bulb on the back of them.

Speaker 11 (43:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (43:56):
So I'm not really sure about the sticky part of things,
other than just you know, a flea is feeding. It
does incite inflammation and you know, if the dog is
scratching and itching, there's going to be a response from that.
So you can't get flea allergy dermatitis, which is you know,
the body's reaction in certain pats where they're just super
allergic to even the bite of one single flea and
it'll drive them a bonker. So we can actually get

(44:19):
you know, some serum that can ooze from the skin
if they're digging and scratching long enough. So I'm not
sure i'd probably you know, i'd have to kind of
see that dogging to see what specifics is going on there.
But most, in most cases of dog and cat fleas
are actually caused by the cat flea. So that's the
majority of the population.

Speaker 22 (44:38):
But so pat that I try to help by keeping
that ball in the.

Speaker 8 (44:42):
Front, that's going to be definitely a you know, a
source for fleas any kind of not just cats, but
even wildlife raccoons.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
I'm confused, I question, you just said the cat flee
You mean there's different fleas.

Speaker 8 (44:56):
Yeah, technically there's what they call the cat flea in
the dog.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Wow.

Speaker 8 (45:01):
Yeah, But ninety nine point nine percent of the cases
of fleas on either a dog or a cat are actually,
technically the cat flee.

Speaker 22 (45:08):
Is that a light brown flea that doesn't seem to
have much of a shell.

Speaker 8 (45:13):
That's kind of like what I just described, the reddish
to brownish color. But you know, I will say that
there's I think there's like almost two thousand different flea
species across the world. Wow, So just in our area,
you know, the cat fleet tends to be the number
one culprit that we're talking about. But yeah, so we
touched upon So if there's you know, wildlife factors or
stray cats in the area, they're going to be running

(45:33):
through and they're you know, that's what I'm saying. You
can't treat the yard and think you're gonna get control
of things. We're gonna need to make sure we treat
the pet and if possible, try to kind of maintain
some of the wildlife population outside of the areas. Now,
I'm assuming the lady has dogs or cats or both.

Speaker 22 (45:48):
She has three dogs and one next door. He had
gotten that tra forest. You know, the pill that you take.
What you think about that pill, you.

Speaker 8 (45:56):
Know that can be very helpful that the trifects us
and it has it's a good product. It has both
what kills an adult acide, so it kills the adult fleas,
and that it also has kind of a what we
call a flea sterilizer, so it helps to kill those
immature forms as well. So that is a good thing.
And with any product, we do need to use them consistently,

(46:17):
and I don't really expect a quick turnover in a household,
so this can take months of really diligent effective control.
In many cases we will actually combine different types of
medications with veterinary supervision, so that might be the other thing.
So trifexus is a topical. There are some oral medicines
that can help to kill probably the cap star, and

(46:42):
those are very effective for a very quick kill, and
you know, the adult fleas will just kind of go
popping off the animal within about it's a great product,
but recognize that that's only we're killing with that medicine.
We're only taking care of five percent of all the
fleas that are potentially the environment. So all those other
forms are in the home environment, so they lay eggs

(47:05):
that go on to becoming a pupa I'm sorry, a
larva and then a pupa. So and if I'm having
trouble with managing a household and we're feeling like we're
doing everything we can possibly to control flea. Sometimes after
a few months, I'll switch products because there is some
concern that we can have resistance to products. So that's
one way that we can help to kind of combat

(47:27):
hard to kill flea populations and try it.

Speaker 22 (47:30):
Because the advantage is working at first, and then it's
not working.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Yeah, we have the same thing with the front line.

Speaker 22 (47:36):
Yeah, exactly, have to change your products.

Speaker 8 (47:40):
Yeah, and then also the other things in the house,
So the things making sure that we are vacuuming, laundering,
the pet areas of vetting carpets, you can't do it.

Speaker 22 (47:51):
Yeah, what's often do you think that I have to
like move the furniture and really get that spring cleaning.

Speaker 8 (47:57):
Well, technically vacuuming every four eight hours is most important.

Speaker 22 (48:01):
Yeah, I know what you mean about the vacuuming, but
sometimes you have to do like more diligent vacuuming. Then
you got to couch move the bit.

Speaker 8 (48:11):
Well, heck, man, you're gonna come over to my house.
At my house, you're doing a deeper kind of level
of cleaning that I'm probably gonna do for a fleas.

Speaker 6 (48:22):
But the big thing is.

Speaker 22 (48:23):
Because you know right there by the dresser edge, do
I have to worry about that? You know, the little
dusk gets there, you try to vacuum that out. Where
are they in my house.

Speaker 8 (48:33):
Where most most of the cases, fleas are hanging out
waiting for a food source to go buy. So it's
not in their best advance, it's not in their interest
to go hiding out in corners. They're going to be
out on the carpeted areas, the places where the animals frequent.
So that's why we really want to focus on laundering
their bedding, vacuuming where the pets lie. And we know
that vacuuming it can actually pick up and clean a

(48:56):
lot of these larvae and eggs from the environment. Percent
of the larvae in the carpet will get picked up
with vacuuming. I mean, seventy percent is still going to
be there even if you're a great vacuumer, you know.

Speaker 4 (49:08):
And I also want to mention that as soon as
you vacuum, need to get that out of the house,
go dump it outside. Don't let it sit there inside.

Speaker 22 (49:14):
I do that, I do that. I just let me
ask you this a cotton blanket that's quilted at birst
to just a plane one layer blanket. What's your idea
on that?

Speaker 8 (49:25):
No difference, No difference, you don't think so, not at all.
So it's not really, that's not what they live off of.
They live off of the animals and the animal products.
So they're just going to hang out wherever they sit,
and once they feel the vibration of an animal going nearby,
that actually stimulates them to go into their next maturation

(49:45):
phase and then they're going to come out and they're
going to be adult fleas. So yeah, it doesn't matter
what kind of bedding you have or you know, some
people may find that having a tile or a wood
floor is easier to vacuum and to manage.

Speaker 22 (50:00):
I did, I did, and did my flow and I'm
a renter.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Yeah, concrete. If you have concrete, furniture and concrete, that
takes care of the a lot of problems that you
have with animals.

Speaker 22 (50:10):
Yes, yes, okay, so I have just been through it.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Now.

Speaker 22 (50:14):
Fleas as a verse to mites, and you find a
lot of beads. They don't know about mites that much.
What do you say about mit?

Speaker 8 (50:24):
Well, mites are I'd rather I'd rather battle mites than
I would fleees because mites are usually more exclusive to
the patch, whereas fleas are going to take over the environment,
and they can be even to risks to you know people,
you know, people at homes with heavy flea infestations will
get bit by those some mites. There's there's mites that
are that don't spread from dog to human, and then

(50:46):
there are some that can. But I definitely much rather
deal with mites.

Speaker 22 (50:50):
Right the scar coptic mic and all that type. See,
because I have a lot of pitbulls I did in
my life. I have, and I'm like, the one that
I have now has an allergy so severe that I
don't know what's to do about it. Okay, I don't
know if it's the food that he's eating, but certain
times of the day all around his eyes turned red.

(51:12):
His mouth and his nose and then on his belly
at times turns an absolute red. In these big wealths
break down, he's a quarters Okay, that only lasts for
thirty six to forty eight hours.

Speaker 8 (51:29):
I guess, yeah, yeah, yeah, there are And that's a
great point to mention. It's kind of a different whole
topic than what we're getting into here, but pit bolls
in particular can be a breed. We do see hives
that can happen sometimes from food allergies, seasonal allergies. Sometimes
there's not even a noon trigger and they'll break out
in hives all over their body, and then we call
that idiopathic urticaria. So it's kind of challenging. So I

(51:53):
sense your frustration. It is a tough thing, but you
want to make sure you are treating for fleas effectively,
and if you've had meane problems in the make sure
you're tackling that as best as you can, and hopefully
that'll help with some of that tion.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Lee, thank you so much for your call today. I've
had so much fun talking with you.

Speaker 22 (52:08):
I did too, I enjoyed it, and thank you for
your time.

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Speaker 1 (54:03):
You know, the conversation we were having on Facebook this
last week was about whether or not you're a dog
or cat or iguana, whatever it is. Do they sleep
in the bed with you? Because twenty years ago the
dog was out back in a kennel.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
Yeah, they weren't even in the house.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Now they're in the house. They're family members. And in
my situation, I have cats all around me at night.
In fact, I blame all of my back troubles on
the cats.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
I know you won't move them, do you you have
to move for them?

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Joey, you were talking about that a couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
Yeah, it's it's terrible. It's terrible because I'm a groomer.
I'm not a trainer. I'll never say that I am.
And we have the four carn terriers that sleep in
a king sized bed with my wife and I'm not
allowed to get into the bed. Do they basically attack you?
Because remember think of gingin. Okay, but four times and

(54:55):
I'm just, you know, tearing you up because you're getting
in the bed. So I sleep in the other room.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Yeah, I would put it into that. What is your
wife she she doesn't mind?

Speaker 4 (55:03):
Does she okay with that?

Speaker 13 (55:04):
No?

Speaker 3 (55:05):
She wants me the other room.

Speaker 6 (55:06):
What are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (55:08):
She's probably trained.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
Yeah, it's most of the time. It ain't too bad
being in the other room.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
So let's hit the phones. One, eight sixty six, four, five,
eight four or five? Do your pet sleep with you?
We go to Sugar. Hey, Sugar, is Sugar your real name?

Speaker 9 (55:21):
It is?

Speaker 1 (55:22):
I love that. I bet you're a sweet gal too.

Speaker 9 (55:27):
Well, that may be debatable. We'll have to ask my
husband that one.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Do you let your animals sleep in bed with you?

Speaker 9 (55:33):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (55:34):
I do?

Speaker 4 (55:35):
What kind of animals do you do?

Speaker 9 (55:36):
I have two pugs, and my younger one, who is
nine years old, has slept in my arms all the
time she was six weeks.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
Old, in your arms, in my arms.

Speaker 9 (55:48):
And that's how she goes to sleep. She crawls under
the covers and then crawls back out and keeps her
two front paws on my upper shoulder and head on
my shoulder and stares at my husband next to me?

Speaker 4 (56:01):
Does she keep him away us? Does she keep him
away from you?

Speaker 10 (56:05):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (56:06):
She won't move. Yeah, so the answer is yes.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
How big is she?

Speaker 22 (56:11):
Now?

Speaker 4 (56:11):
How much is she weighed?

Speaker 9 (56:12):
She doesn't weigh too much. She's probably about ten pounds.
She's a real little one. And my mail sleeps on
my other side, but more towards my hip.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
What is your old man thick of this?

Speaker 9 (56:24):
He's not happy.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Yeah. The thing I noticed with the cats is it's
really ruined my spontaneity.

Speaker 9 (56:31):
Well, we have cats too, and we have a lock
on our bedroom door because my one cat opens the
door with opens the door handle.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
Oh wow, So you don't let the cats on the bed.

Speaker 9 (56:45):
Though, Well, I do if the dogs aren't going to
chase them. But it's us your chase game. So at
night my cats are up at night roaming. They think
that they're catching things, and they're just going after the
dog toys and carrying them and screaming water carrying them.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
Yeah, I can't see having you as a race down.

Speaker 9 (57:05):
We keep them walked out so we could sleep and
there's no chase things going on.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Yeah, okay, Well I feel for your husband then you.

Speaker 9 (57:12):
Know what, We've always slept with our animals, but it's
not been where they have slept in the middle like
my female does. I mean we we used to sleep
with our adobe.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Between us, so they would much rather have your husband
out of the bed.

Speaker 9 (57:26):
Bas No, not really, but I'm not going to move
my pug or is she going to move?

Speaker 18 (57:35):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Okay, all right, thank you for your call.

Speaker 9 (57:38):
Nice here in your radio show this morning.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Is this the first time you've heard it?

Speaker 9 (57:43):
That is, I'm not usually up as early as I was.
I was on my way to my son and daughter
in law. She went into labor this morning.

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Oh congratulations, a baby, but it was a fault.

Speaker 9 (57:57):
So I came back home.

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Speaker 10 (58:10):
I will for sure.

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The catch with this one is they had drawn the
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Now that one, you're not going to really be able
to tell. I don't know. It didn't look any different
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drawing the picture of this cat that you never took

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one of your cat. So how much could you have
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Speaker 16 (01:01:22):
This is an animal radio news update.

Speaker 5 (01:01:25):
I'm Terry Truchio. For years, there has been a lot
of controversy about declawing cats, and now the American Veterinary
Medical Association has amended its policy to clarify that declawing
is a major surgery it should only be done as
a last resort to prevent destructive clawing, but it stopped
short of suggesting a van on it. The new policy

(01:01:46):
does stress the importance of educating cat guardians about normal
feline scratching behavior alternatives to declining, and there are quite
a few, and that declawing is actually the amputation of
the first digit of the cat's toes. Says there may
be some situations where decline might be necessary to keep
a cat in the family, pointing out that cats can

(01:02:06):
resent a risk of injury or disease to people with
compromised skin integrity, such as an elderly person or someone
who might have a compromised immune system. The AVMA says
the decisions should stay with the cat's guardian with the
aid of their vet. The kids who grow up with
pets are more likely to become vegetarians later on in life,
at least that's what a new study done at Bellarmine

(01:02:28):
University in Louisville, Kentucky, just found. It discovered that such
kids developed deeper empathy toward animals, and that can result
in more of a desire to avoid eating meat. In
the study, when the participants did eat meat, people who
were attached to a pet during childhood tended to justify
it by looking the other way, keeping from thinking about
the origin of the meat, while those who had much

(01:02:49):
of a less attachment to a pet as a child
more often justified than meal in a direct and unapologetic way,
saying that humans are supposed to eat meat. There has
been a lot of talk, and we've been doing some
of it lately, about how to memorialize our pets after
they pass. Well, now there's a company in Houston. It
already sends people's remains into space. It's now offering to

(01:03:10):
do the same for pets. Celestis says rockets carrying the
cremated remains of dogs and cats will start this fall.
The price will be about the same as it is
for humans, starting at nine hundred and ninety five dollars.
So if you want your pets remains to orbit the
Earth or going to the ether, now apparently you'll be
able to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
I wonder how you know if your pets hash is actually.

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
Orbit the Earth really big?

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
What kind of guarantee do you get?

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
Yeah, well, this is the same.

Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
Company that sent Gene Roddenberry a Star Trek payme out there,
So I guess they're reputable.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
Okay, I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:03:44):
As reputable as it can be sending ashes out into space.
So you're right. Nobody don't know, but they they've back
quite a history. Okay, I'm tammy.

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Try out.

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Ask your questions directly from the app. Doctor Marty Becker,
how are you doing today?

Speaker 17 (01:04:28):
Oh my gosh, you know I was listened to discussion
about treating fleas. And I swear if you've been a
bad if you've been a bad girl or bad boys,
a vent probably the last conversation you have before you
you have the final grace and say goodbye, will either
be on a cat litter box issue or getting rid
of fleas.

Speaker 6 (01:04:46):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 17 (01:04:47):
You know, I've been a veterinarian for thirty five years
and it's so much of it as the same discussions
of trying to educate people.

Speaker 6 (01:04:54):
But thirty five years.

Speaker 17 (01:04:55):
Ago it was literally chemical warfare. I mean it was
these nasty yeah and sprays and powders and collars and stuff.
And now if people will just talk to their veterinarian,
there's several really good solutions out there, and they just
have to be diligent.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
That's the key.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Yes, you can't give up, and you can't just treat
the animal and not treat the house, for instance.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
And you can't do it just once either.

Speaker 17 (01:05:21):
Yeah, and then people think, well, I'll stop now it's expensive,
I'll split the dose, or I'll try this dog product
on the cat, or I'll try a horse product and
something just crazy stuff, and you can't. You've got to
use lifetime parasite control for all pets. That's the internal
and external parasites. And if you're really diligent and use
these new products, you know you won't have those kind

(01:05:44):
of problems. And the other thing I was thinking about
people that think they know what's wrong with these pets skin.
You know, the number one reason people take pets to
the vet is skin problems and fleology. Dermatitis, like explained,
is very common in some parts of the country. But
you're hearing about giving a steroid shot, and veterinarians now
have some really unique solutions for skin problems that we

(01:06:04):
didn't even.

Speaker 6 (01:06:05):
Have last year. Oh really, Oh yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:06:07):
There's a product called a Pockwell that's I just I
think every day I use it on one of my
own dogs, and I just look up and say, thank
you God for Lettings, So let us create this product.
Because I had a pitbull that suffered from skin problems
and we'd get it. You know, she'd scratch and she'd
break the skin barrier and you get the secondary bacterial
infection and here comes a yeast and we'd treat her

(01:06:27):
and bathere and get her all over it, and then
it'd start again.

Speaker 6 (01:06:30):
And since she's been on a pocwel.

Speaker 17 (01:06:32):
She's never scratched a day after that and she's never
punctured the skin barrier. No more skin problems, nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
All right.

Speaker 8 (01:06:39):
Now, we got to say, Marty, though, that dreg is
very hard.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
To get, is what is it?

Speaker 8 (01:06:44):
It's very hard to get.

Speaker 17 (01:06:45):
That's the problem is they had a two year supply.
It's called a pockwell a p o q u e
L And they had a two year supply that was
gone in two weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
Oh wow, the first two weeks it was out.

Speaker 17 (01:06:58):
So that's good that you mentioned that because they what
they I have to admire the company though it was
unexpected to demand for the product, and they didn't want
pets that already had relief to not you know, put
all these pets on it and not have enough to
supply the pets that were on it, so they'd have
to go back to suffering again. So the people that
aren't at the front of the line with a pet
are going to have to wait till later this year

(01:07:20):
when the supply will catch up.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
What do they make it out of that there's such
short supply.

Speaker 17 (01:07:24):
There's one plant in Indiana that makes it, and that's it,
and it has to be sent over to Italy to
be packaged. It's just a very it's a very simple
but very difficult to make. If it makes sense, it's
it's a very unique product that's going to probably be
the first two hundred or three hundred million dollar product
ever in veterinary medicine.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Wow, okay, well we'll keep our eyes out on that
for sure. I certainly didn't know there was more than
one type of flea. I thought fleas were fleas, and
to hear there were cat fleas and dog fleas. I
have learned something. Now, what about the ones that are
in the flea circuses? Are those cat fleas or dog fleas?
Do they have better memory?

Speaker 8 (01:08:01):
You're not sure, but I would I would say the
cat fleas are so plentiful they'd be the easiest to provide.

Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
Okay, yeah, but I think a dog flea would be
easier to train.

Speaker 6 (01:08:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:08:10):
Well, the doctors, first of all, where I live in
Northern Idaho, listen to this, we don't have fleas or tics.
So not only not only do we not have to
worry about it for he pets, that's but the people, well,
how do you practice?

Speaker 6 (01:08:21):
What do you do?

Speaker 17 (01:08:22):
I don't when you lease your tics, but I want
to give you some some tips that I've learned over
the years through personal experience or in writing twenty four books.
And let's start with dental care. Literally, nobody is going
to brush your pets teeth. You should, that's the ideal thing.
My wife does it, but she's a freak. She even
flosses their teeth about four times a year.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
So weird.

Speaker 6 (01:08:45):
Yeah, that's weird.

Speaker 17 (01:08:45):
So outside of my wife, you know, there's less than
one percent brush their teeth. So you need to use
some kind of daily oral care that's typically in the
form of an edible toothbrush. And by that, I'll tell
you my three favorites. One is Greenies in Green these
people most people know about them. They have the Veterinary
Oral Healthcare Steel of Approval, which isn't easy to get.

(01:09:06):
They're a little pricey, and the dogs consume them very quickly,
so that's.

Speaker 6 (01:09:11):
Probably not my favorite.

Speaker 17 (01:09:12):
Number Two, milk Bone has a new dental chew out
that it too got the Veterinary Oral Healthcare Seal of Approval,
So not the old.

Speaker 6 (01:09:19):
Milk Bones I bought as a kid.

Speaker 17 (01:09:21):
You know, the multicolored little biscuit, But this is actually
a very well engineered dental chew. And the third thing,
the one I personally use and I recommend to clients,
is called a cet extra chew and it's an enzyme
impregnated rawhide, so the raw hide has chlorhexidine in it.

Speaker 6 (01:09:38):
It's very palatable.

Speaker 17 (01:09:39):
In fact, one of the clinics I work at part
time we use it as a treat and you can
get it from your veterinary or you can get it online.
It's by a company called Verbach, which is the number
one company for dental products in veterinary medicine.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Okay, I know that Ladybug does just like a regular
old parina bone and it keeps her yeah, busy boney bone,
and it does the trick.

Speaker 17 (01:10:01):
They used to say dry food kept teeth cleaner than
canned food, and that's not true.

Speaker 6 (01:10:07):
We now know that dry.

Speaker 17 (01:10:09):
Food and canned food are the same. The semi moist
those kind of semi moist foods, those do have higher
levels of peridonal'sse because it's kind of a sticky.

Speaker 6 (01:10:17):
It's sticky, sticky sweet.

Speaker 17 (01:10:19):
But there is no difference between dry and can food.
Which I used to say that for years. It helped
and now we know it doesn't. So just some kind
of daily oral care that's a form of an edible toothbrush,
I call it. And if you do that, you're going
to be dramatically increase the time between professional cleanings. As
far as as reducing shedding. There's two products.

Speaker 6 (01:10:41):
I really like. One is when you bathe your dog.

Speaker 17 (01:10:43):
And we've talked on here before about the importance of
bathing your dogs much more frequently than you did at
the past. You not only flush these allergy triggers off
to prevent or reduce what we call environmental allergies, but
also all that hair that's genetically triggered to fall out
that week will end up, you know, in the tub,
in the steel wool you have on the drain, and
not all over you.

Speaker 6 (01:11:05):
So there's a prodocol zoom groom.

Speaker 17 (01:11:07):
It's made by the Kong Company, and it's something you
hold in your hand and has these rubber fingers that
go down and get really deep. So it takes those
medicated shampoos or just a cleansing shampoo deep to the skin.
And it also works out that you'll end up with
just a mat of hair on it that you pull
out and you think, oh, guys.

Speaker 6 (01:11:25):
Thank gosh, it's send.

Speaker 17 (01:11:25):
The trash now and not around the house.

Speaker 6 (01:11:28):
And then of.

Speaker 17 (01:11:28):
Course the old stand by the ferminator, which I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
Can you over ferminate an animal?

Speaker 17 (01:11:34):
Yes, okay, yes, yeah you can because you're you're stripping
it down with that razor blade and sometimes people are
too aggressive with it and it'll actually irritate the skin.
And you've got to be careful on sensitive areas. You know,
I know enough of a dog, so you find the
places where the fold and the groin and certain places.
Got to be really careful there. But those are my
top two tips there. And if you get if you

(01:11:55):
ever get hair down in the carpet or the carpet
or the upholstery and you can't get it up, if
you take them balloon and rub a balloon over it,
it'll make that hair stick up. And you can ease
use a pet hair pickup or a vacuum cleaner, it'll
come right out.

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Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Us Now TV. Critic for The Boston Globe Matthew Gilbert
has joined USh. I'm Matt, how you doing? Do you
mind if I call you? Matt?

Speaker 11 (01:13:29):
No, not at all.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
You're the kind of guy that you really didn't like dogs.
They were actually afraid of dogs, weren't you.

Speaker 11 (01:13:35):
I was terrified of dog you know.

Speaker 23 (01:13:38):
I grew up in a home where we never had
a dog. My mother was also afraid of dogs, and
so if I saw a dog, it just it seemed
so mysterious and unpredictable. And I thought they were dirty too.
If I touched a dog, sure accidentally, my hand would
buzz until.

Speaker 11 (01:13:58):
I could wash it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:01):
And this happened up into your forties.

Speaker 23 (01:14:02):
Or I would say, yes, the early forties, Yes, wow.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
What actually changed you?

Speaker 11 (01:14:09):
Well?

Speaker 23 (01:14:10):
I think, you know, some people find a dog and
they fall in love with the dog, and then they
that kind of becomes their bridge to falling in love
with another person. For me, it happened the other way around.
I met a person who is now my husband, and
I fell in love and he's a dog person, and yeah,

(01:14:30):
and I had to kind of loosen up, and gradually
I relaxed around dogs because I was constantly having to
be around them. I began to trust them and reached
a point where I couldn't imagine living without a dog.
And I mean, I just told you that when I
touched a dog. I couldn't wait to wash my hands. Now,

(01:14:53):
I mean I kissed my dog Toby.

Speaker 11 (01:14:56):
On the mouth.

Speaker 23 (01:14:59):
You know, I can't get enough of touching him. I
feel very drawn to him. In attack time, Now.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
You did see where Toby was cleaning and an hour
before he kissed you in.

Speaker 23 (01:15:08):
The mouth, right, we blocked those things.

Speaker 4 (01:15:11):
Yeah, you got a lot of making up to do.

Speaker 23 (01:15:14):
But what happened was I got this, you know, so
we finally got this dog, Toby. And even though I'm
a TV critic and kind of the sort of person
who spends most of my time in front of the
TV or just with my husband or one or two friends,
Toby wasn't having that.

Speaker 11 (01:15:31):
He had to get out, he had to play.

Speaker 23 (01:15:33):
He's an extremely social dog. I found him pulling me
to the dog park and it became ultimately a great
experience for me.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Well, now, did that take away from your work? I mean,
if watching TV is your job, by the way, great
gig if you can TV critics and get paid for it.
But did that take you away from your job? Did
you find that it was?

Speaker 13 (01:15:55):
You?

Speaker 6 (01:15:55):
See?

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
For me, I have distractions from work also, and I'm
just wondering how this affected you.

Speaker 23 (01:16:01):
Well, it depends whether or not my bosses are listening. Okay, now,
I'm just kidding. You know, I don't think it did
take away from my worktime because I would come back
from the park and I still do. I come back
from the park refreshed.

Speaker 11 (01:16:15):
You know.

Speaker 23 (01:16:15):
Sometimes I'm sitting in front of my TV or my
computer and I'm not really being productive. The best thing
that I can do is to leave and come.

Speaker 11 (01:16:25):
Back, yes, re energized.

Speaker 23 (01:16:28):
And the park is a great place to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
It's great. The dogs get you out from behind the TV,
which is and you know what, they have this new
dog TV where the have you seen this on direct TV?
They have dog TV. That's my biggest fear is that
me and the dog will be sitting in front of
the couch all TV all day.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
I'm a big people watcher. There's got to be a
lot of people to watch at a dog park. I
can imagine.

Speaker 23 (01:16:52):
Yes, you got all different types.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
Oh, tell us about some of the crazy people there?

Speaker 11 (01:16:58):
Oh? Crazy? No, dog people who are crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
What do you mean?

Speaker 23 (01:17:03):
It's one of the things that I love about the
culture or the subculture of the dog park is that
it brings in people of all ages, all different walks
of life, and so you find yourself talking to and
rubbing elbows with people that you might normally never meet.

(01:17:23):
You know, there are people, and I think my favorite
dog park type is the person who loves to talk.
You know, the person who because they're in this semi
anonymous place and they're among these dogs who are having
such a good time, they feel like they can just
tell you everything about themselves. You know, I'm a sort

(01:17:44):
of listener. I love listening to people's stories.

Speaker 11 (01:17:46):
So you know, there are these people.

Speaker 23 (01:17:48):
It's like I call it damn burstage. I mean, you're
standing there and they're telling you their entire life story,
even though you don't know their names. It's very eccentric
and very sweet.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
So I love that, which is another thing you notice.
You never know their names. You know their dog's names,
but you never know their names exactly, which can be
you know, you know what's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
At the dog pocket, I noticed the crazier the person
is the probably the better pet owner or a pet
parent they are, they love their pets more, That's what
I've noticed. The more crazier they are. And I'm saying crazy,
I'm just talking about the ones you look at and
say that one's a nut, but usually they make better
the best pet owners.

Speaker 23 (01:18:27):
I agree with you one hundred percent. I some of
the people that you meet and you think this person
is crazy and I better not make eye contact, and
before you know it, you're you're touched by them because
you can see how much they love dogs and and
what what a good dog owner they are, and it's,
you know, it really is a nice common.

Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
Ground that you have with you know when you mentioned
common ground, you know an incident that happened to me.
One time I was out with my dog, a little
tiny dog, and this man was approaching me, and he
had tattoos on his face and the tire. He was
definitely in a gang. And I was there by myself,
and I was a little frightened, and I kind of
held my purse close and held my dog close, and

(01:19:08):
he was coming right towards me. And the guy gets close,
gets down on his knees and starts talking baby talk
to my dog and tells me about a dog that
he had when he was younger that looked just like
my dog. And like you say, he opened up and
it was like we knew each other. Forever.

Speaker 11 (01:19:24):
I love that story.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
By the way, if you go to the dog park
and you don't see any crazy people, you're the crazy person.

Speaker 7 (01:19:31):
Just to.

Speaker 13 (01:19:33):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
Now tell me the book is. And we barely mentioned
the book. It's called Off the Leash, and it's about
obviously your trips to the dog park.

Speaker 11 (01:19:40):
It's about my trips to the dog park.

Speaker 23 (01:19:43):
It's about everything that we've been talking about.

Speaker 11 (01:19:45):
Okay, you know.

Speaker 23 (01:19:46):
It's about my transformation from a more or less introvert
to a more outgoing and social person thanks to my
dog and the dog park.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
It's called Off the Least. The author is TV critic
for the Boston Globe, Matthew Gilbert. Thank you so much
for hanging with us today.

Speaker 11 (01:20:06):
Kind of oh my god, this was delightful. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
Have yourself a great week.

Speaker 4 (01:20:09):
Bye bye bye.

Speaker 19 (01:20:10):
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