Episode 115: Rambeau + Reps Retiring? & Pro League Week 1 Breakdown

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
What everyone.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome back to another edition of the Apex the podcast
Ladies and Gentlemen. Pro League has officially went down. And
I know that doesn't sound like anything crazy, fantastic, out
of the ordinary to people who've been listening to the
show for long for a long time, but it is
because if you think about it, the last time we

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had a show where we could break down a Pro
League weekend was like three months before Germany. That's how
long ago it's been since we've been able to talk
about Pro League. We are back, it is. It feels good.
Like listen Rostermania's fun lands are fun, but like pro
League is where it's at when it comes to the pod,

(00:56):
breaking down things before we get there, that's where it's at.
I'm so excited for this. We're gonna break it on
down with the boys here in a moment. Enoch will
be in the interview, which, by the way, was an
awesome one with Rambo. It's awesome to have Rambo back
on the show. The last time we had Rambo on
was before we were ever on YouTube, before we were
ever a video podcast. So shout out to Rambo for

(01:16):
opping on the show. It's a great one with him,
But we got the boys here, Jumba and Donnie, and
we are here to break down some pro league. Now, boys,
there is some major news we got to get to.
Do we want to do that before we break down
pro league? Or do we want to do it after?
I feel like it's some pretty significant news. What do
you guys? Thinks?

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Rip?

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Whatever? You feel? His best? I mean, you're right, like
we're back with pro league.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
What I was gonna dress quickly is like, you know,
people always ask us, where's the podcast episode this week?

Speaker 4 (01:43):
It's tough when we don't have pro league because there's
not as much to talk about, right.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Not only that, but it's hard to get guess when
there's no pro league going on, because there's just like
nothing really to talk about. And it's like that's the
last thing they want to do is talk about APEX
when there's nothing to do.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
That's not true. That's not true. They like talking Apex.
I know that for sure. They like talking.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
It's just like it's like, who do we get like
there's it's tough because like screams, there's not much talk
about when it's just scrims. Lands are so few and
far between, so it's tough.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
It's tough, man.

Speaker 6 (02:14):
Yeah, they're a double blocking scrims too, so like there's
a lot of guys that are running two blocks and
it's like, what is that five pm central to who
knows how long after that? Five six hours? So it's
it can be tough.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
They still typically don't care too much about that.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
I just find that, like the tougher thing is, like
we were trying to when we try to work interviews,
I feel like we're trying to go in for like
the storylines, and when there's no storylines.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
What do you do exactly? Well, it also opens it up,
like you said, for the storylines to be from players
that aren't typically in the spotlight, which is always fun
to you know, grab players who are on the on
the rise, on the come up. So it's awesome man.
So boys, I think the most major news we got
to talk about here is Reps currently leaving the roster.

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He's gonna be taking a break from Apex for what
seems like a little bit. I haven't gotten too much news,
don I know. Somebody said in the Apex discord that
he said it was just a break, But as of
right now, Reps is taking a step away from APEX,
And it's a pretty significant story because if you want
to talk about one of the anchors mainstays in Apex

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Legends competitive, I think Reps comes to mind, comes to
the forefront for a lot of people. Obviously you have
the big names, the igls and stuff like that, but
Reps has been in the mix since the very beginning.
I'll kick it off with you first, Don because you
do have that TSM blood running through your veins, at
least that OG TSM blood running through your veins. How
does it feel to see one of the ogs take
a step back for a little bit?

Speaker 5 (03:42):
How does it feel to see your entire team that
you support a crumble?

Speaker 6 (03:48):
You know, tears were shed that day, you know it
was no But at the topic of Reps, you know,
I've I've stated before that he's what is probably the
player that got me into watching out of Apex. So
to kind of see him taking a step back, it's
it's definitely I don't want to say a surprise, but
it definitely takes you a surprise, but definitely takes you

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back because you know he joins VDR. They seem to
be doing rather well. You know, we'll get into the
pro league stuff, but obviously they finished decently well, you
know for a roster. That's their first time conventing in
Burley together, so it is kind of a surprise to
see when he kind of bring in all the variables,
you know, the TSM breaking apart, everything that happened with

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this last land, with them not performing to their capabilities.
It may be where he's finally realizing that that was
kind of a lot to take in, so he kind
of just needs that break. Like you mentioned, Wyatt, there's
at least from for us, some unconfirmed news that he
might be coming back for Split two, but the full
thing is that he's going to play through the ALGs
land here in New Orleans, but then take the break

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after that. So there's still a couple of weeks he's
gonna be playing, So who knows, maybe if he changes
his mind between now and then, but at least as
we know now, he's at least taking a break after
they open. But yeah, you just hope that, you know,
he finds whatever he needs to find, whether that's just
taking a break and coming back, whether that's full on retiring.
I mean, I think he's kind of earned that right
to kind of do whatever he wants to do with

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everything he's brought to Apex. So I just, you know,
I just wish him the best and just hope whatever
he you know, whatever he's able to find work for.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Him, Jumpy, you have anything else to add on top
of that.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
To think it just sucks because VDR like was like
actually a quite pleasant surprise. They did pretty good on
the first day Pro League, and then I was watching
them in scrims right now because he's sticking it out
to the open and like they're kind of farming right now.
I don't know what their final score will be, but
I mean every time I keep tuning into them, they're
doing pretty good. Already had a second place there, like
in tonight's scrims at the second block, and I don't know, like.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
You know, I'm not gonna lie. They were definitely surprised
because of the fact.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
That, you know, VAX, I think has always been one
of the most underrated players in in Pro League, even
to this day, even after him doing quite well in
Fury and having to fight for his spot back, Deeds
was kind of stuck on Tripods that I think had
a lot of potential. But you know, they just need
to maybe like better personnel all around and such like

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that like that to get further ahead if they wanted to.
So I wasn't really sure what Deed's full capability was,
and the Reps had never igled. He's always been like
in this quote unquote anchor role. You know, he's always
like sat in the shadow of guys like Evan and
and Or and Imperial Hall and before that was Snipe,
Like you know, when you talked about TSM, everyone always
talked about those other guys. So it's like we always
knew Reps was good because like, you're not gonna win

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lands like that many like he did and have those
performances if he's not good, But like, how is it
gonna be Once he broke away from that team and
like you know, he had to kind of be the
main guy, and they kind of showed up. They started
doing good. I think they ended up finishing eighth overall,
but they were top five for most of the day.
So yeah, all in all, they were just surprised me
and impressed me. And to hear that's so quick, like

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he's taking a break, like not not knowing what the
exact reason is.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeah, it bulmos me out a little bit, but you know,
things happen.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah. The only other storyline I could think of up
to this point was kind of an interesting one. We
have Caprem leaving Complexity, and there was a heated argument
kind of between Monsoon and Caprem and then you know,
Funk was in there a little bit and that one
got pretty contentious to the point where, like I said,
Caprim ends up leaving I think the next day. So

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that was one that on the reddit was going a
little bit crazy. It's about a five to six minute
video that you can go back and watch. I think
it's on the Competitive Apex reddit right now. But from
that perspective, Don, I just wanted to hear your thoughts
on something like that because it's one of those instances
where you know that stuff like that goes on behind
the scenes, but typically you don't hear it on like,

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you don't typically see it in that form. You don't
typically see it right there, you know, and you hear
rumblings about certain things taking place behind the scenes. This
was kind of like a light flashing and just kind
of showing you what the competitive scene is like. It's
very doggy dog it's a very I mean, these these
people are competing for a lot of money, and they're
and they're trying to do their best, bring forward their best,

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and this type of stuff takes place.

Speaker 6 (08:14):
Yeah, I mean it's it's tough, right because at the
end of the day, like obviously, everybody that's competing in
some sort of sport, whether that's competitive use sports or
sports in general, there's that that competitive nature that everybody has,
right So you kind of already have these guys that,
like you said, it's a doggy dog kind of world.
You know, everyone's trying to compete for their spot each
and every day with the opportunities that they have. Because

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as we've seen you know, or is coming in out,
coming in and out of APEX quite a bit. You
got coaches and analysts changing quite a bit, you got
players changing quite a bit. So every opportunity when you
are with a team, you know, you try to do
your best to stick with it because you just never
know what tomorrow brings. I think it's unfortunate that all
of this was on stream because although for like the

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viewing aspect, it's like, oh man, like this drama, like
it's crazy, you know, it gets APEX talk about a
little bit more, but I think, just from someone that
has come from coaching sports, that's not really conversation you
kind of want public just because it could definitely get
very divisive of people choosing sides, who thinks that who's right.
And the biggest thing I think that everyone needs to

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remember when they watch this video is that we aren't
going to have the full context of their relationship. Like
there could be a lot more things that have happened
between that video and when they first started teaming together
that have kind of built up to that moment. So
I hopefully people I mean, unfortunately it's unfortunately it's the Internet,
so they're definitely gonna assume too much. But hopefully there

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can be some rational thinking eventually down the line that
you know, some things are able to get figured out eventually.
I know Jumba is already taking the said no, but
but no, it's like I said, I just think for me,
just coming from a coaching perspective like it, it's really
unfortunate to see because again, you know, you saw how
well they did at this last land although they were
separating from complexity. There's a team you see they pick

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up funk Oh, that might be the fragger that they
need could really elevate this team to that next level.
But then you see something like this happen and it's like, oh, well,
like you know, where did this come from? How did
this happen? So it is really unfortunate to see and
it does suck to see Supreme, uh Supreme jeez, caprem
to have to leave the team because it got so bad.
So I just hope everybody's able to kind of figure

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out what needs to get figured out. At the end
of the day, Capream is hopefully able to find an
opportunity somewhere else, you know, In terms of who's right
or who's wrong, I don't think that's for us to say,
but at least in terms of, you know, commenting on
kind of what we see, you know, I think it's
just a really unfortunate situation.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
At the end of the day, He's right. This isn't
for us to say.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
What we do is we rip a stream Capreme versus
Monsoon they debate. Then after we have them like just
go hard half an hour each to make their point, okay,
a full hour. Then we defined it between Reddit, Twitch, chat,
and Twitter votes.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Who won the debate?

Speaker 5 (11:00):
Whoever wins a best two or of three of those
three votes the other person, sorry Soriry. Whoever loses banished
from the Apex community has to leave all the socials.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
I don't want to fucking hear from every.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, and then we put then we then we clip
all that and then we post it for Instagram comments
for a second chance opportunities like a double elimination.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Oh my god, double nomination.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Once we get that going, then we'll have our true
champion Instagram, and then we'll know for sure Instagram. Really
the MVP of that is is uh is Kim? She
not saying a single word the entire time. Kim, she
did not say one word during that entire video, not one. Yeah,
what what a legend. Everybody's just fighting at each other's

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next and Kim, she's just in the back, just I'm chilling, man,
I'm hanging out doing my thing.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
It's probably even like smart from his end, because I
mean he's teamed with the man for so long at
this point, and like I don't know who he agrees with,
but like I don't know if like then after this
someone might think, like you know, there's a bias of
like if you get ends up agreeing with Mon, it's
probably better for him to just like stay out of
it and let the rest them take care of that.

Speaker 6 (12:01):
Well, it's also like, what's he going to be able
to add to fix that situation at that point, because
because for anybody that ends up seeing it there, there
was not going to be any magic words that were
to fix that situation unfortunately. So I think you.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Should have just streamed in the background.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, like that one Modern Warfare or two clip where
they go back into the lobby and there's that kid
just screaming in the background.

Speaker 6 (12:22):
Yeah, yeah, or the or Steve call from Aker.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
In the background, or after they pause for a second,
he just he just says I agree, but doesn't specify
to who he agrees with. Yeah, he just he just
says the words, I agree, and then he just lets
it die there. And then they're like, oh he was
on my side. Both of them can think that, and
then they both win, you know, and that's really all
that the matters at the end of the day, is

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just the winning part.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, No, that was a joke anyway, So that was
really about it as far as the news goes. Well,
I actually know there's one more big thing was.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
Gonna jump in, Like I was like, just rip it
a ton of bits with that whole conversation. I was
gonna jump in real quickly, like more serious note and
I was just gonna like also, I guess agree until
the point that, like I think Donnie was talking about
where it's like I don't know if that just came
out of left field, Like you know, you gotta like
wonder if like there's like stuff going on behind the
scenes there with complexity that this.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
May be finally boiled over.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
Maybe I'm sounding like I'm taking him on side right away,
but I feel like that doesn't just come out of
left field. I feel like there's gonna be something there first,
And I, like you said, I think it's kind of
like interesting you get a flash of the pan of
like you know what what happens behind the scenes, you know.
I feel like a lot of times with with like esports,

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fans almost want everyone to kind of always be friends
and happy, and you know they want everyone to respect
each other like in the best way.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
If that's just.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
Unfortunately it's not sports in general, like you just yeah,
it's never is You hear about like beef within teams
on professional sports all the time. You just never see
it because it's not live stream. Then you know, you
don't get like the inter wortions of entire practice or everything
like that.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
It's not even just esports though. It's like you have
coworkers that you see more than your family sometimes and
you have a lot of different personalities in that. It's like,
it's just how things go in life. When you're going
towards the same goal and you're on the same side,
there's going to be disagreements all the time. And so yeah,

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and even if they were friends, like when you're in
that kind of environment, it's a pressure cooker and you
have just a lot of things flying back and forth.
At some point it's bound to break. And even in
successful sports, you know, dynasties. You look at Bill Belichick
Brady at the end of that, they both really did
not like each other, and that's kind of the reason

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why they parted ways. You know, it's up for debate
on who was really the catalyst of eventually leaving, But
at the end of the day, that was one of
the greatest dynasties that we'll probably ever see in our lifetime,
and it ended the exact same way. Two people kind
of butting heads and then going their separate ways. Now
you look at them, they can be in the same room,
talk to each other, they go on each other's shows
all the time. That's how esports works. And I think,

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like jump to your point, a lot of people don't
think that. They think everybody's just friends all the time. Remember,
they're they're working towards something. It's just like going into
your job, like you guys are all eventually trying to
reach the same goal. It's a little bit different than
in a job because really you're just going into there
to get your paycheck and that kind of thing. But
even in APEX you could look at it the exact
same way. Not everybody's going for the legacy of it.

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Some people really just are looking for a paycheck, and
that's kind of where where it's at. So that's kind
of the situation with complexity. Will keep a close eye
on that. There's a lot of other things going on podcast.

Speaker 5 (15:44):
If we pull back the curtain, the fights between me
and why oh yeah, the screaming matches we have about,
Like the big one is should we remove the.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
What's up guys? Why he wants I hate it.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
I'm the one who always says I mean to keep it.
You say you don't like it.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Jumpa hates it. He despises it. He wants me to
get rid of it. He hates it so much. And
then there's a big argument about the amount of times
I say ladies and gents. That's with me, myself and
I I argue with myself about that all the time,
but it's ingrained into my brain. I can't stop saying it.
I won't stop saying it. But yeah, so that's the
complexity situation. The last bit of news here is Nocturnal

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saying he's going to return. I forgot about that. I
almost just went completely right by that. That happened today.
But Nocturnal did send out a tweet saying that he
was looking to come back into the scene. He said
he needed to get right back to work. So, boys,
from your perspective, I mean, it was already really sad.
When we watch Nocturnal leave, it doesn't feel like too
long ago, and that's because it wasn't. But how do

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you guys feel about a Cornerstone? I would say, a
very very great player, a very very good personality to
have in the scene wanting to make a return. I'll
start with you don.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (17:01):
I mean, I think it's for the competitive scene itself.
Anytime a player love that statuere and that notoriety comes back,
it's always a good thing, right, and especially Nocturnal, I
think most people can agree it's definitely one of like
the more like fun, nice personalities of the scene as well.
So it's just another nice person to kind of bring
back in and really can shake some things up, because

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I think a lot of times when we see with
these roster manias is it goes with the igls, right,
Like the IGL kind of is the one that ends
up finding who they want to play with. You know,
when Hal decide to leave TSM, everyone's on pins and
needles like, okay, where's this IGL deciding to go? And
then this past roster media everyone was wondering, you know,
what's Phony doing? And then everything kind of fell in
from there. So you bring in another IGL that's a

(17:44):
very experienced IGL. When there's honestly a lot of really
good controller fragger players that are out there enough people
can fill in the anchor role. But I think the
IGL role is something that's always seems to be missing
from a lot of the you know, middle to lower
tier teams. So just bring in another top tier igl
in I think only makes the region better. I think

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it just provides another opportunity for a top tier team
to form. So I think it's only a good thing.
And I'm definitely excited to see him back because again,
we've I mean, we've seen what he can do at
the at his best. You know, they're one of the best,
top five teams in the world. So uh, definitely excited
for it. It should be, it should be good to have
him back.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Not to mention what it would look like seeing him
come back after a little bit of a little bit
of a break jump you have anything to add on
top of that.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
If you asked me, did I expect this, probably said, yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
The guys always they come back.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
They always come back, you know. Wig even responded, I
was to be he responded, they always come back. Hey,
I'm not gonna be upset that he came back.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
Not cool.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
I like, it was awesome to him back, but like
it's not that surprising to me that, you know, if
he never come back, it also probably wouldn't have been
that surprising because like, you know, I'd also get it
if people want to give up. But at the same time, like, yeah,
like they come back. Man, just until we talk about
design fors return.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Oh, that's gonna be a big one. Actually, you know what,
we'll have him announced it on this watching right now.
You got to announce it on the show. When you
come back. You gotta announce it on the show.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
We need it if he's in New Orleans. But we'll
try to ask him. If he's not there, I guess
I'll try to.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Have him yeah, yeah, yeah, one of the one of
the pillars returning back to the Game Boys. I think
enough time has passed and I think we've gone through
enough of the news. Let's get to Pro League because
I am excited to once again finally talk Pro League
after what I am like an eternity I was reviewing

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before this.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
I was.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Very excited.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Did you ever re review last year? I'm kidding you well,
I did.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
That's when I started to do it. That was when
I first started doing it. And uh, you know, there
was there was some teams I was following heavily. It
was complexity, it was luminosity and a little bit of
TSM also Cloud nine. Those are really the to what
I was following this week. I really only have one

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team that I was looking at, but in the coming
weeks we're going to get through all of them. Let's
run through the standings as they went through this first
week of Pro League in NA. Our first place team
was huss Like everybody expected, they were first. They had
fifty seven points. Second place was one hundred Thieves right
behind them with fifty three. You go over to Envy

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in third at fifty points, and then Team Liquid rounded
out the top four at forty nine points. And I
say the top four because on Liquipedia they have the
four little trophies there, So I'm gonna stop it right
there for the top four. If you run through the
rest of the rest of the lineup here, there was
a lot of other teams that had interesting days that
we can get to here. You look at Furia down

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there at the seventh, We mentioned VDR at eight, Shopify
sitting there at ninth. Interestingly enough, we have energ and
Team Falcons at twelfth and thirteenth. We had Stallions down
there at fourteenth, a team a lot of people were
looking at wondering where they were going to land. And
then we had a lot of other teams that we
can get to here. In a moment down there at

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the bottom. Let's kick it off with our winner here, first,
Team Huss Team Huss has It's been an interesting journey
specifically for Gent, I think, in my opinion, because we
had talked about Gent a lot throughout this entire journey
of him being on tripods. If you remember, if you're
a historian of the Apex podcast, Gen was our second

(21:32):
ever interview. He was our second ever show, and at
that time, obviously I think I think G two was
still going strong. But then shortly after it was no more.
Then Gent goes obviously to tripods, and the question was raised, like,
Jen is an incredible player, He's done some great things.
If he were to ever get away from the tripods,

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where would he go, where would he land? And how
successful would he be. I don't want to jump the
gun too much because it is just one week of
Pro League. The Team Husk gets that first place, and
the thing that I've been wondering about for a long
time has come to fruition. I think Gent is a
rock star and it was nice to see him get
that first jump. But I'm gonna throw it on down
to you first about Team HUSS. I know we got

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to sit in there and watch it together, and they're
not on HUSS at all times. But from what you
saw and what they were able to do in this week,
how'd you feel about Team HUSS.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
Dude love having Dupe and Skittles back on top. Skittles
had taken like a whole year off pretty much because
I think it was like back as us, like back
surgery or something like that, so he wasn't able to compete.
Comes back first day gets first, especially because even the
last time before the back surgery, I believe they, like
Dube and Skittles had like missed land with Optic and

(22:47):
I don't remember if they, like then Dupe had gone
back with lou By competing through I'll CQ and such
like that. But you know, they just weren't that that
Optic from year two that we remember that were like
the best team in the world. So, you know, especially
with the Legend bands, I think that they're a team
that could be really interesting to watch. The reason I

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mentioned the Legend bands because I feel like they were
pretty versatile in their play. I guess like they really
were focused on like that Gibbie Costic comp that they
used to play. But yeah, I just I feel like
they're a team that could be pretty flexible. They're insane
mechanical players.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
I don't know if anyone really.

Speaker 5 (23:23):
Knows this, but Skittles was like one of the best
players like in Xbox, and then after he switched from
Xbox to PC started playing M and K and then
started getting accused of being a cheater because he's that
fucking good by pro players, might you, And then after
the pro players were scinded that once he got the
land in Sweden, that's how good this guy was. And
he was a controller player to start. So yeah, the

(23:44):
fact that we finally got them back and the fact
that they come out swinging get first place, there'll be
a team.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
I focused really closely on the rest of the.

Speaker 6 (23:51):
Split, don Yeah. I mean I think it was impressive,
right because you got three guys that are all kind
of coming back after taking and you know, either split
off or missing a land or you know, wherever the
case is. And obviously Dupe had his he was grinding
for number one pread there for one of the splits.
So it definitely seemed like it was a team that

(24:13):
if you took it based off completely off of the past,
you would think, oh, this is extremely capable team. They've
all had success. You want to be surprised if they
finish where they're at because obviously we've seen, you know,
the optic teams that Skittles on being so close to winning,
obviously being really good with G two and also Dupe
when it was back, but even with like the was

(24:35):
the ESA roster and it was like first Dupe, Skittles
and Verholes. Again, they've all had a ton of success
in the past, but recently it's like, Okay, what's this
form going to be since all these guys are kind
of coming together and make this work. Well, they answer
that pretty quickly get in the first place, and to me,
for people that maybe weren't watching all the time, it
might be a bit of surprise for me at least

(24:57):
if we I know, scrims isn't everything, but off of
how they practiced, they made a lot of final circles.
Their communications seem to be really really good. I know
they played a ton of rank together kind of leading
up to all this, so I think they definitely developed
a lot of really good chemistry together and just kind
of the way they overall just played during these practices
at these screams it was like, oh, this might be

(25:18):
they might have something here, and to kind of see them,
you know, bring it again that first week, see them
play as well as they did skid Old Cakes. In
his first pro league week back, I think he was
like top five and kills already, which is extremely impressive
coming back into a lobby like that. But it's just
I think it's a really cool story to see. You
hope it's one of those things that they're able to
keep up, because again it's three players that all have

(25:41):
a pretty decent pedigree when it comes to competitive APEX. Yeah,
I think to most people though, it's definitely going to
be a surprise, but hopefully one that continues to continues
to be a cool story to tell because I think
all three of these players have gone through quite a bit,
you know, kind of gone through those rolls of are
we as good as we think we can be? And
for them to come together and make a team that

(26:01):
is very formidable, I think it's a really cool thing
to see.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
They had to rotate in Game two on storm Point
right outside of the mill. There was like those little
crates on the outside, kind of near the slope of
the mountain, and I kept trying to get people to
look at this Rotate while we were watching it, because
I was on a different stream than everybody else and
I'm paying close attention to what they're doing. And I

(26:27):
still don't know how they managed to pull off not
dying there. I think they end the game getting second
or third place, but I might even put it in
this show because it was such an incredible I don't
understand how they survived it. I'll go back on the
vod and see if I can find it. But they're
Rotate in game two. If you get a chance, go

(26:47):
check out ALGs VODs on YouTube. You can just see
every team every game. It's awesome. That Rotate really kind
of opened my eyes to where they were at because
I didn't realize like how well and cohesive they were playing,
even in high pressure, intense moments, and they pulled out
of that getting somehow second place, and you look at

(27:08):
the overall standings at the end of the day. Getting
those points from where they were at was gigantic and
it gives them a huge step up moving forward, because
obviously getting the points at the end of the day
is cool, but you're really trying to get as many
points as you can heading into that second land and
trying to get yourself those champs points. So little things

(27:30):
like that changed the dynamic of an entire team. And
right now this is still an unsigned team with a
lot of potential ahead of them, so very exciting to
see Hus do well and I hope we continue to
see that moving forward. Let's move on to some other
teams from the top four. I had one that I
really wanted to talk about here that I had mentioned
before the season started that I was excited to watch,

(27:51):
and that was Team Envy with dropped Syke's Zap, coached
by Talmadge, and I had said that at that time
I felt really confident about their roster makeup and they're coaching.
I thought that overall, when you look at a if
you had a blank piece of paper in front of
you and you had to build a roster, this would
be one that I think you would sit and look
at and be like, wow, I think I really came

(28:11):
together with something nicely here, And they showed on that
first day. It didn't start off the best for them,
and it took a little bit to kind of get
kickstarted where they felt like they were back in the mix.
But they got there and that's all that really matters
at the end of the day. So shout out to Envy.
I think that there We're gonna be seeing a lot
more of them coming up here soon, and I'm excited
to see where this roster moves scored. Don did you

(28:32):
have anybody else in the top four?

Speaker 6 (28:35):
Yeah, I'll say real quick on Envy. The craziest thing.
And this is why people always say scrims don't matter, Like,
yes they do, but like they also don't mean everything,
because Envy, if you watched at least a couple of
scrims were awful, just would not placing well. They might
had a day or two where there was some outliers,
but overall weren't that good. And then they come out Yeah,
their first couple of games, I think they went out

(28:56):
like nineteenth and eighteenth to start with, but then absolutely
come out flying towards in the second half of the
of the week. And shout out to Zapp for being
I believe was a killer with nineteen kills, which is
is I mean, I think everybody knew his fragging potential,
but now that he's got dropped, you know, solely basically
igl and with Zap kind of bringing his input but

(29:18):
mainly focused on fragging. We could see that that fragging
potential that I think everybody knew that Zap had really unleashed.
Now that like that is his main thing instead of
kind of having to IGL and freg. So it'll be
interesting to see with them.

Speaker 5 (29:32):
Well, Zap was like like the fragger for eight with
Zach Yeah, and like absolutely balled out. Let me see
if I could clearly find that pro league stats because
I'm curious where he finished off. Uh, Zap finished ninth
overall sixty six kills with an average of nine point
four to three kills per day, which is pretty good,

(29:52):
so like top ten and I'm pretty sure that was
his first split a pro league. I would be able
to find it out pretty quick. But yeah, we saw
him do but then he's back to where I think
like he fits better. Yeah, yeah, that was his first
split of pro league, so yeah, I think that he
fits better as that frag rule. Like you know, the
fact that he jumped into that IGL role for TSM
always was a shock and he did, I think, perform

(30:15):
better than everyone expected. But he's where he's where he
belongs with the guy with a drop not saying that
he can yell. Like you said, you know, the whole
like thing of like adding his input in there is
really good. But like if you could just sit back
and shoot his gun, I think the guy feels more
comfortable doing that too.

Speaker 6 (30:29):
Yep. But uh yeah to what you're saying. Another team,
I think, obviously, I think we need to at least
mention one hundred thieves, you know, being the new big
team that formed, I think basically performed how we think
they would. I think there's definitely still more in the tank.
I definitely think there's more that they will figure out
as they play more together. But I think we saw it.

(30:50):
You know, We've we've got three of the better players
in the region, three of the better players in the world.
And if they're just able to kind of figure out
their comms and their and their chemistry, they're good enough
to any lobby or when any region or whatever that
that goal is. So they come up second this first week. Again,
I don't think a lot of it is credit to
how consistent huss was and how well they played. Otherwise

(31:11):
one hundred the Youth might have ended up winning. But
I mean it's again, it's a very solid performance for
their first time playing together in an actual pro league setting.
And again, I don't think it's too big of a
surprise that they ended up in the top two or
three here, but yeah, I can't wait to see what
their their actual true form is going to be once

(31:32):
they played more together, because there's there's definitely a lot
of early promising science.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Yeah, it was almost like the way they were playing
was there was like a little bit of that weird
kind of trying to meld together and mesh a little bit,
it seemed like at first, and then they kind of
really settled in as the day went along. So I
think that's a lot of people's favorite moving forward as
one hundred.

Speaker 6 (31:53):
Yeah, and I wanted to say real quick too, is
that a big thing that people will need to continue
to watch is that I think traditionally a lot of
people would recognize that Phony really did focus on zones
as an igl and wasn't necessarily the first person frontline fragging,
which is which now with having the ashes the race
being a little bit more into the meta and being

(32:14):
played a lot earlier in games, it kind of requires
igls to play that character a lot. There's some teams
that can kind of get away with it based on
how they play, But traditionally that's what you're gonna want
because they can not only scout from their position, but
they can also, you know, say we're going to push
this fight, we're going to do this, We're gonna do that,
just because they're always frontlining, right. So seeing his evolution
of being able to frag we saw it a little

(32:36):
bit with how he did a Champs and how many
kills and how well he did there. But I think
we're really going to see Phony coming to a complete
igl because I think a lot of people questioned that
part of his game, which was the only thing really
holding him back for some people calling them world class.
I think if he continues to develop and continues as
a trajectory that he has, we could see an even

(32:57):
better version of Phony moving forward, and that's only going
to bode well for one hundred Thieves as well.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Now, there was a lot of teams that did well,
but there was a lot of teams that did not,
And most notably we look over at Team Falcons sitting
at thirteenth only thirty one points on the day jump,
but you had a lot of time to go over
and comb through the Falcons game plan and kind of
figure out what was going wrong for them, But it
just seemed like there was a lot of different things

(33:23):
that they couldn't harness coming into this first pro league day.
So what did you see from team Falcons?

Speaker 5 (33:30):
Uh? So, the funny thing is is like I had
put like a post on YouTube community posts where I
had like I basically just threw out the standings, ask
people what their thoughts were, get some gates of interest,
and funny enough, I threw at the end there, I'm like,
you know, how many of you are going to tell
me Falcons suck now after one day because like, you know,
their last performance before this day the game third at Japan.

(33:51):
So I don't think that Falcons are like should be
any thing anyone are worried about for any matter. But
I think that the only thing that was really fusing
me and I about to eat my words too on
top of this, but like was like their compositions, Like
it's really weird what they're.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
Doing right now?

Speaker 5 (34:08):
So how or this was after a pro league like
in scrims, but on the day they had hal playing
Newcastle like he did.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
Out in Japan.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
But now they've like after Scrims, they're like trying how
Not on the Newcastle and putting Walta on the Newcastle,
and then they'll do this weird thing where it's like
one game walts will play Fuse, but then the next
game how Police Fuse and then or like one game
Waltz you will play. This happened during on Sunday. One
day Waltsa will play Crypto, and then the next game
they're switching to Zero playing Crypto. So I don't know,

(34:40):
there's bouncing around and I feel like they're playing comps that,
like I don't really fits their play style.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
I think Crypto's not good for them.

Speaker 5 (34:47):
I said, I was gonna eat my words because today
they just absolutely balled out in Scrims and got first
and everything like that, and like they were doing great
as soon as walt was on Crypto, and Zero looks
amazing when he's ripping alters. So it could be just
maybe like needing some time to get comfortable in the characters.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
I had a lot of different things I was gonna
say until I saw they got first, and like we
talked about all the time, first place Instagrams doesn't really
mean much. Then on the actual day thirteenth is definitely
not where they want to be. Do I think that
they will be able to figure it out? No, I
think they will. I just want them to kind of
narrow it down and honestly like maybe move away from
some of these more defensive characters. I see them starting
the day off with like if they might not be

(35:26):
need to be the team that's forcing Newcastle. Interesting interesting conversation.
We were in a bus. I don't know if I
talked about this. We were in a bus on the
way back from the venue one day in Japan, and
I can't remember what Jay asked how but Hal basically
said that he felt as confident and as good as

(35:46):
he was on Newcastle at that moment as he was
on Horizon. I don't know how crazy that is to
maybe other people, because Hal was like the goat when
it came to playing Horizon, like in the game, right, So,
but he's saying that that's how confident he was in
his new Castle play, and I mean, like they played
good and like, you know, like if you want to
like make sure that you go into that land, the

(36:07):
biggest land of the year, like you might want to
like even like Pump yourself out and be like, yeah,
of course I'm like that good still, right, So who knows,
like like if it's like maybe like if he truly
like had that conviction to like know that he had
that confidence.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Going into the next days.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
The reason I bring that up is because Jay and
I were talking about this where it's like I wonder
if he was able to feel that confident because on
Newcastle when he was having troubles to when he started
feeling good is when the gibbie came into play and
he was able to be more aggressive.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
And be like a frontliner with Newcastle essentially.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
But as soon as like they're removing that gibbie and
they're playing a comp like a crypto, I'm trying to
think of exactly something they would have played they're running
something like Newcastle crypto or no, maybe like it was
Newcastle ash and then like someone else in there, right,
But basically where Newcastle is your anchor, I think that's
where like it starts to fault and hurt hal and

(37:00):
could be why like they're trying at Waltz on the
Newcastle now instead, but yeah, I think just unleashed Waltz
and fucking how put them on characters they could fight
on and that team will go crazy.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
That mountain right outside of the Mill. I mean back
to back games, they are trying to climb that mountain
and run. They run basically into the same problem both times.
It was just I have no analysis on that. I
just thought it was funny. It was just like that
mountain is a death trap. It's just it's one of
the god Rock you're talking.

Speaker 5 (37:28):
Yeah, which is interesting because of the fact that like
actually I guess were they were they landing Mill because
they did have first POY draft. Like that's the one
thing that like really does suck. They took Height, oh
Heights tried it. They didn't even take god Rock, so
they couldn't. They probably got their last honestly or what. Yeah,
because then North Pad was taken too. That's interesting because like, yeah,

(37:49):
usually like when you know they had mal As their
POY like Dark zero days, like they owned that god Rock.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
They'd sit there all game.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, it was just funny to watch. It was just
like back to back game. I think one of you
said it out loud when we were watching, like are
they going to go to the same spot? And they
did and it just cost them. It just cost them
all over again.

Speaker 5 (38:07):
I know, I rambled a bunch there just to basically
say that, like, I think they'll figure it out. I
want to see them unleash hol and Walt. That's what
I want, as simple as that, And that it is
maybe a bit troubling that that was their day where
they got first overall pick, so now they don't have
that in their repertoire, right like they had their first

(38:29):
pick when they took Heights too. I'm surprised they didn't
go for a storm Point pick first, but nonetheless, yeah,
we'll have to see what's going forward when they get
some of those midpicks now.

Speaker 6 (38:40):
Yeah, and I was going to say real quick too,
I think the comparison to because like obviously another one
of the gods here or the top teams and the
region is Shopify, right, and we talk about like wanting
to play aggressive. You know, you're one of the best
fighting teams of the world. You know, I think the
comp should represent that Shopify was running No Newcastle, they
had Crypto Fuse Ash game one. They're running Fuse Crypto

(39:02):
Bang game two. So you really which I would say,
no Empty definitely fits the Crypto just like a little
bit more, just because like that kind of tends to
his play style, whereas Zero really loves to like front
line and still frag at the same time at times.
So it'll be really interesting to see if Falcons do
swing to more of like an aggressive comp and eventually
drop the Newcastle, drop the rampart maybe at some point,

(39:26):
just because I just you know, seeing Shopify's results, I
believe they finished top five or so, or they got
down to ninth, but but I mean, Shopify was putting
out a ton of kills. I think they just kind
of lost in place and points there at the end.
But you'll, I'd be interested to see if they decided
to flip to a more aggressive comp with Falcons, or
if they continue to stick with the Newcastle. Like you said,

(39:47):
it's a team that's gonna probably figure it out, but
you know, you see a team that puts It's a
funny stat to see they put up the most damage
of anybody in that first week, but they also took
the most damage by like three thousand, and they had
a negative plus minus damage, which may really may not
mean anything at the end of the day, but like

(40:07):
it's a really interesting stat to see if that trend
continues and where they continue to place, you know, are
they able to overcome that where they take it more
damage than they take and they give out, or if
they can find a way to maybe flip the script
to where they're giving out a little bit more damage
than they're taking in, because I just don't see having
a negative plus minus really working for positive results. But

(40:28):
we'll see what they ended up de signing to do again.
You'd be shocked if they don't figure it out at
some point.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yeah, plus minus the most important stat in the NHL
currently in this state. I wanted to follow up on
Jumba's point with one of the opposite, where Jumbo was
saying he would like to see a little bit more
aggressiveness out of the composition picks for Falcons. I spent
my entire afternoon watching NRG today, and I think they

(40:53):
would benefit from quite literally the opposite watching through. One
thing we know for sure is Timmy wants I. He
wants IGL. That's that there's no reason on even entertaining
anything else because that's what he wants to do. So
if we're stuck with that and we know that's the outcome,
he Timmy wants to IGL. One thing I think that
could really benefit this team is having a Cat or

(41:14):
a Newcastle in the earlier portions of the game. Now,
I don't want to overreact too much to just one week,
but when I was watching it, it seemed like they
were trying to get into certain spots that if they
had either of those two legends would have really ended
up helping them out. And so especially with Timmy, he
hasn't been in IGL for a very long time, right,

(41:35):
he still has a lot to learn. There's still those
you know, things that experience teaches you over time. He
hasn't had as much experience as some of the other
IGLS in the league currently. I think having those defensive
defensive legends earlier will help them gain a little bit
more of those points moving forward. And it sounds weird
because you've got Yanya and you've got Guild like two

(41:56):
people who can shoot, and you know that they can shoot.
It's almost like buying a Ferrari and then just parking
it in the garage forever, because you know those guys
can get you damage and get you kills. But I
do think overall it will help them help them out
throughout the next coming weeks of Pro League because I
just felt like with the Crypto Fuse and I don't
know how you guys feel about that overall. I mean,

(42:16):
Crypto seems to be getting played by a lot of teams,
same with Fuse. I don't know if I really vibe
with the Fuse. Crypto. I think makes sense, that's awesome,
you know, totally, but I feel like the Cryptoing, sorry,
the Fuse thing, I don't know. I guess you can
really hem people into a spot if they're stuck there,
but you also have to get that advantage first, and

(42:39):
they just weren't getting that advantage on a lot of
those situations. They end up getting twelfth plays, so it's
not the worst thing in the world, but I just
felt like Energy really could have had a much better
day had they started using defensive legends there. I think
in the final two games or the final game, they
go away from the Crypto Fuse. But I think Fuse

(43:00):
was banned, right, Donnie or was a Crypto?

Speaker 6 (43:03):
Oh you talk about Pro League? Are you talk about yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Yeah league?

Speaker 6 (43:06):
Yeah, Crypto end up being one of the last bands.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Yeah, So I don't know. I just I was watching Energy.
I feel like they're there. This is just one week,
and I think they can still bounce back. They have
a ton of talent on this team. The only other
thing I can think of when I was watching Energy
was just cleaning up the coms a little bit. It
seemed like Timmy had comms and he was speaking a lot,
but sometimes they could get a little bit confusing, like

(43:31):
he was. There was one moment on E District where
he phased through an alter thing. He said I'm good,
I'm good, and then literally was immediately dead like he
was not good. He was not good, and so I
guess that's something you got to clean up. But that's
something I think every team can work on a little bit.
That's not something that just nitpicked Tommy on. I think
all teams have that, especially in those high, high stress situations.

(43:53):
But overall, I think that watching this team, I'm excited
to see what they go through and what they continue
to get better at as the season goes along. I
had said before the season started that this was one
of those teams where I'm heavily interested in how it
works out, and I'm heavily invested in it because I
really like Timmy and I really like Guild Guild topped

(44:15):
on the show before, so it's one of those guys
where you want to see them succeed. Same with Timmy.
Both of those guys have been there, so it's like
you want to see how this how this all works out.
I just right now, this first week obviously wasn't what
they wanted it to be, and I think they could
really benefit from using a little bit more defensive minded legends,
at least in the first couple of games, and then
maybe if they start to get catch a vibe, so

(44:36):
to speak, they can hop back on the crypto crypto
fuse and see if they can gain and rack up
some of that RP. I think RP is KP. Sorry
then KP is really what helped them this week was
just being able to get some of those kills because
the replacement wasn't necessarily the best. If I look through here,
I don't even think they cracked like they didn't have

(44:57):
a very good placement on this day. Say they well
you can, I.

Speaker 5 (45:01):
Just say, fucking yeah, this ALGs website needs to change.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
Probably.

Speaker 5 (45:10):
I was trying to find e A because one of
the points you made, like I thought like there's something
about Alliance that would have been a really good point
that I could have added on there. And this whole time,
I've been looking at the second screen trying to figure
out how I can see em A scores, and I
gave up And don't even try to tell me now
how I don't care.

Speaker 6 (45:26):
I am such a minority of like I really don't
mind this site at all.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
Like kick him off the punt.

Speaker 6 (45:32):
Yeah, I mean, I'm probably gonna lose apparently some friends
of connections in this space for that.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
But like where they do I go for?

Speaker 6 (45:39):
It's literally just the like the top left where like
the red thing is it brings up like the regions
or underneath.

Speaker 5 (45:45):
That there's two fucking menus in the top left. Why
is your too?

Speaker 4 (45:49):
Anyways?

Speaker 6 (45:52):
Yeah, like storry for another podcast?

Speaker 5 (45:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Sorry why I interrupted?

Speaker 5 (45:57):
That's another thing too, is like typically you're able to
click these just look at a team's name and see
what their best placement was for the day, so you
can see like, Okay, they got twelve, is their best place?

Speaker 4 (46:07):
Tenth? What do you mean they got tenth? It was
the best place.

Speaker 5 (46:10):
Now instead I'm seeing assists. Assists is the dumbest stat
that could be included in anything, because like two people
because three people can get assists there and you're adding
them up. I guess three people get kills, but there's
only one kill, but there could be two assists for
one kill, you know what I mean. So it's dumb
to say that there's twenty six assists when there's only
twenty five. That means nothing to me because there's only

(46:31):
twenty five kills. Anyways, it's a little bit more rent.
I'll find some people at New Orleans to be like, yo.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Let's hey, listen to me real quick. Yeah, speak real quick.

Speaker 6 (46:44):
I'll just say real quick. Of the NRG thing, I
think it's just one of those things that, like, you
have three great players right when you bring them all together,
it doesn't always necessarily make you know, the parts don't
always make a bigger sum. You know, the individual parts
they come together make something better than just them by themselves.
You hope it ends up being the case at some point,

(47:05):
but again, it's the first week of Pro League. You know,
we'll see if they're able to clean some stuff up.
It Ultimately, is it to come down to how does
that communication work? How does it come down from Timmy
to Yania to guild. You know, are they able to
find a way to make all of that work. Again,
we've seen in the past some things that X teammates
have talked about with Yanna and Timmy is that the
comms are sometimes where they lack. So is that something

(47:28):
they can hopefully overcome at some point Because I think again,
at an individual level, each of them are extremely talented
and some of the best players that we have in
this region in the game itself. So how can they
ultimately figure out a structure to where the communication all
makes sense to each other and they all make the
correct decisions at the right time. So I think ultimately
right now, like we get a lot of instances where

(47:49):
there's like two people on one page one and another
or one person is just too far ahead of somebody else,
Like there's always to be that little something with the
comms and the decision making, and so well we'll see,
you know, if they're be able to figure that out.
But yeah, again, another team that has a very high ceiling.
But what does that for end up being and how
does that ultimately come to their placements each and every week?

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Yeah, and then like there was a perfect situation of
what you're trying to reiterate. In game one, they're going
up the hill towards the god Rock spot on Stormpoint.
They're running up there, a catwall goes down. Timmy's seeing
it and there's two teams fighting at the bottom of
this hill, and Timmy kind of turns because he saw
somebody slide down the hill to his right. Guild and

(48:34):
Yanya are looking left and they're trying to get kills
on these teams down here near the wall. He says, no,
we gota, we gotta go right, we gotta go right.
He's like, you know, he's he's trying to get that
calm out quickly and loudly. He gets it out. They
follow him. They go down there. But the problem was
when they were standing in that spot before looking down
at the left, they have a rock behind them. They

(48:55):
have their back covered the second they went down to
try and fight that team on the right. Now you
have all the teams who are looking out from those
buildings and like the water area, just looking straight at you,
and they're just popping shots with the weapons that are
out right now, thirty thirty G sevens. You're going to
take so much damage doing that. They had a little
bit of a car like they had like a truck

(49:15):
right there, and then like a palette of what looks
like to be concrete. I can't be for sure, you know,
having gone in the code and figured it out, but
that's all they had in front of them, and you know,
they weren't even able to handle that team that they
went to go fight. Immediately right after the fights over,
gild says, we should have fought that team, you know
on the left, and Timmy just kind of goes yeah.
And I think those are going to be the situations

(49:36):
where experience. As time goes on with Timmy, he's going
to learn more and more and get better at those
types of situations. And I think another thing people talk
about with Timmy a lot is the aggressiveness, how aggressive
he can be. And there was a few times where
I actually felt the opposite this week where I felt
like there were times he probably should have tried to
go for something and didn't. That was one where I

(49:59):
felt like it was a little bit too aggressive, but
not like I don't want him to fight there, It's
more it was just that the wrong fight, which once again,
I don't even think that's an aggressiveness thing. I think
that's just a pure igl thing like understanding your your
surroundings and situations, and you could even fault you know,
the fault Yanya and Guild right there for not you know,
speaking up a little bit more there being like, we

(50:21):
have this team right here, let's watch our But I
actually think Yanya did say at one point, this team's
gonna be walking up on our back. So I don't know,
it's just the calms, I think is really what it's
going to come down to. Like you said, don kind
of understanding each other and what and getting out the
information that is vital to the moment to make sure
that they're able to come out and do what they
they can do. Because those are all three highly skilled players,

(50:43):
very good players. We've seen them perform at the highest level.
So that's where we're at with that team. Boys, that's
all I had for NRG. And if we look through
the rest of this lineup here, there's some other teams
that we're kind of surprising. We don't got to talk
too much about locked In because we're gonna talk about
locked In with Rambo and just a moment. But did
you have any other team that we haven't talked about yet?
Good or bad that you kind of wanted to highlight.

Speaker 6 (51:08):
Yeah, I'd just say, for me, shout out to unleash
getting a top five. That's a dig Vibes team. For
those who don't know that, shout out to them. Again,
they came from the qualifiers, a team that I think
Dig Vibes especially has kind of been knocking on the
door of kind of making that step into Pro league
and you know, getting that opportunity because I believe this

(51:29):
is his first pro league split if I'm correct about that, so,
but he's kind of always been in and around that
area of making that leap, and they're able to do
that with this, uh, with these qualifiers that we've recently had,
and yeah, just definitely big shout out to them. They've
only been improving every time I've watched them play. And again,
I think we not only love to watch the teams

(51:50):
that we know are the super teams, right, but also
these other storylines that come with Competitive APEX, whereas these
teams that come out of quote unquote nowhere and start
to surprise people. So hopefully they can continue it into
the weeks to come. And just shout out to Dick
Vibes and I believe it's Legatron and I can't. I'm
just say that's so wrong. But Flora, I apologize the

(52:13):
next time I say it, I'll make sure I get
it right. But shout out to you guys for how
you played well.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
So we're actually two times we're kicking you off the
show now.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
That Yeah, that's three strikes You're out, buddy, Yeah, free
strikes out. It's not like I called. Uh, it's not
like I called kind of kind for on this podcast?

Speaker 4 (52:31):
Do I not know that?

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Yeah, it's a tough look for your boy. It was
a tough look for your boybody. Did you have any
other teams?

Speaker 4 (52:38):
No, man, I think I'm solid.

Speaker 5 (52:39):
We chatted a lot, but a lot Donnie hitting with Unleash,
even a team like Oblivion. So just looking forward to Sunday,
catching up with seeing some of the teams you didn't
see this week, and finally compete.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Yeah. The last thing I had was Stallions, and I
don't want to go through their whole, you know, synopsis
of what's going on with the team, because I haven't
gone through and looked at the VOD quite yet. But
I will say alber Lelli pulled off a play that
was absolutely incredible. Was it game one don absolutely incredible.
I could not believe what I watched. And it was

(53:12):
even funnier that he went into wigs chat and was like,
you're gonna freak out when you see this, and yeah,
it was insane, absolutely insane. To be able to get
them the points right there was huge, and you know,
Stallions didn't have their best week, but I do think
Stallions has a little bit of that vibe to them
where people are people wouldn't be surprised if they slide

(53:36):
in here, and I think that when it went when
it came to Japan, that was like a surprise, like
oh wow, okay, cool, awesome, we get to see alber
Lelly at U in Japan. I think there's some expectations
with Stallions right now, so I'm excited to see what happens.

Speaker 5 (53:51):
There they you know what, MAC has just been fun
to watch with the legend bands playing so many different characters.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Yeah, it's been great. It fits as system. I think
even Wigs said that, he was like, this fits so
much better than you know, what we've had in the past,
and uh and I have to agree. I guess the
final thing we can say is the Legend band system
this was our first week kind of experience. It at
at like a high stage here. I loved it. I
enjoyed the hell out of it. It was great to see.
Like I said, you know before, we're probably going to

(54:18):
see a similar pattern most weeks. You know, Ash is
probably going to go first almost every single week.

Speaker 5 (54:24):
But not true it Scrims. She hasn't been going first
this week. I don't really, We'll see and we'll see
in things. But today she made it to game three
and Scrims who went first? Cat going first a lot,
I don't even I think Newcastle went seconds, so second,
which is wow.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
So with Cat Newcastle, Ash, Yeah, interesting? Interesting. Well, I
mean this is what the system is there for, and
I think this is what's going to be.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
So Elli Friedman, You're like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Well no, I wanted to pick up because so what
I do when I need to remember information is I
just text my fiance it and she just doesn't have
to respond because she knows I'm trying to remember something.
So these were the bands for this week of Pro
League and when Ash Game one, Catalyst Game two, Race
Game three, Alter Game four, and Crypto Game five. So
that's where it was this week. Let's see if it

(55:10):
changes next week, and it seems like just based on scrims,
that's where we're gonna go. So super interesting stuff there,
Ladies and gents, I think we've said enough. I think
it's time to throw it on down to Rambo from
Team locked In. He talks just about everything. We got
Boneanners on the show. We haven't had him on, like

(55:30):
I said earlier, since before we were even on video.
It was nice to see him in there, his long,
luscious blonde locks, being on the camera. You're gonna enjoy it.
It's gonna be great. We talk about Panic, we talk
about Hambino, we talk about the whole squad and their
expectations moving forward as Locked In. Ladies and gents, let's
hit a quick ad and send it on down to Rambo.

(55:52):
All right, ladies and gentlemen, we welcome back a very
special guest. It's been a long time since we've had
him on. I just looked at the date, November seventeenth,
twenty twenty two. We bring on Rambo and at the
time he was playing for the Guard. He is currently
playing for Locked In. That's how long this has been.
Because the Guard feels like forever ago. It feels like

(56:16):
centuries ago. But Rambo, how are you doing, my man?
Welcome back, man.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
It's going to be back. I'm doing great. Yeah, it
has been a while. I think I've been on three
or four separate teams since the last time we talked,
so it has definitely been a while. But glad to
be Baggings for having me on boys.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
No, it's always our pleasure. It's always great, and it's
been great to see you kind of getting back into
the zone with this team locked in. To be honest
with you, man, watching from at least the NA side,
you guys are one of my favorite teams to watch
because obviously you guys are still unsigned right now, but
I feel like you guys have a lot to prove
out there, and you've got some up and comers, some

(56:57):
players that we've seen in the past. You guys have
everything with this team going through right now. How are
you feeling with team locked in? How are you guys
feeling going in and you just completed your first week
of Pro League? Where do you guys stand right now
as a squad?

Speaker 3 (57:11):
Yeah, you know, I feel I feel really confident about
us right now. I think, uh, you know, panic is
the next big one up. You know, I think he's
like the truth, the real deal. I should probably start
telling people he's bad so he doesn't get poached, but
uh no, but in all in all seriousness, yeah, man,
he's he's like a young go he's uh uh probably

(57:34):
like the next Zionu, next koy Full in my opinion.
And then uh, ham Bino's you know, been a really
underrated player you know his uh his career, and he's uh,
you know, he's a big brain. You know, he makes
really good callers. He's a great out of g L.
And then you know myself, I bring a lot of
experience to the table. So it's been a lot of
fun to play those guys. It's we get along really well.

(57:55):
And I've always been kind of like a vibes guy
kind of play, you know, my best when you know
the team gets along well and the team is you know,
friends at the end of the day. So yeah, you know,
we just played our first Pro League day, got tenth.
You know, it's not what we wanted. You know, it's
not the worst, it's not a doomer. Day didn't really
set us back too much. So uh yeah, we've only

(58:17):
been a team you know, two for two and a
half months, so I think we're only gonna get better. Man,
this guy's the limit.

Speaker 5 (58:24):
So with panic, you didn't want me to specifically ask
what the fact that in psq's he was averaging twenty
six kills per round, which was like including in finals,
which was like a crazy stat.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
When I had heard it, like what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (58:38):
Yeah, he's actually the PSQ raid bo. He was the
PSQ raid boss. Want to Yeah, he did not want
to walk in front of that guy.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Yeah, I'm speaking of him. Was he the one who
had the rat play in that Lake game to get
you guys second place?

Speaker 3 (58:54):
Yeah? Yeah this past weekend? Yeah yeah that was it.
Yeah that was him.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Yeah yeah, insane, absolutely insane. I don't know how he
just watching that entire situation unfold. I don't know how
he was able to get the second place, but the
fact that you guys were able to sneak those points
in huge, and I think it just shows part of
his skill in his game sense, even at such a
young age, like he's just able to do and pull
off these incredible plays.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Oh yeah, man, I mean I some of the plays,
Like I'm lucky enough to see him every day, you know,
and some of the stuff he does, I'm just you know,
in awe. It's it's really incredible. And you know, this
is like his first time in pro league too, so
you know he's really young in the scene and you
know doesn't have you know, all the experience right now.
So each week, I sure you believe he was going

(59:40):
to get better and better, which is scary for the
rest of the lobby, but you know, good for us.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
For sure.

Speaker 7 (59:48):
And so how like, you guys have been a team
for like two and a half months. How did you
guys really come together because you have like Ambino Panic,
which is just like Panics panic.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
And then yourself. How did this squad form?

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Yeah, it's kind of uh you know, I played blgyest
with one hundred tee and then Himbino played with another
team instead of Panic. We were all kind of you know,
on different teams. The last uh I guess the last
time we you know, played or competed, and uh I
knew Bino was Himbino was LFT in January I think
it was January or I saw that he was, and

(01:00:26):
then I was too, and then so we kind of
like kind of formed as a duo. Because me and
Himbino have the same philosophy, you know, like play zone,
you know, kind of fast, irritated stuff like that. So
naturally like we kind of like, you know, I agreed
to do that, and then we were trialing like thirds
for a little bit, and then uh, I told Bino,
I was like, I really think Panic's like the next

(01:00:47):
one up, you know, I think he's uh, I think
he's insane, and I think we should give him a chance,
and uh yeah, we agreed on that. And then yeah, man,
that was pretty pretty much that no, no, no crazy story,
I guess, just kind of no form through some trials
and stuff like that.

Speaker 7 (01:01:04):
Nice, yeah, because I know that Panic has not I mean,
Panics had somewhere of what could be described as a
as a troubled pasted throughout the APEX, especially where his
notorious baiting of wallhacks, which like I as someone because
like I remember there was a time period where like
I legitimately like I was like I'm not playing rank
with Panic just because it was like it was two

(01:01:26):
sus of everything that was going wrong, and then it
just got to the point where it's like, all right,
he's been playing for this long and he's like like
I'm not gonna lie, Like he's he's shut on me
multiple times, like he's he's an incredibly talented player. And
once he once you play for so long and you're
like you're not banned, You're like okay, Like he's just

(01:01:47):
like the king of like baiting, and then like he's
just continued to perform, especially with you guys now, and
so it's definitely cool to see.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
Yeah, definitely he uh he went through the Ringer for
a little bit. I remember those two but I think
you know, he went through all that stuff and you know,
nothing happened and it was years or I guess or whatnot.
So you know, he streams every time he plays, so yeah,
he definitely he definitely is good at uh baiting it
and getting people to talk about it, you know, I guess, Yeah,

(01:02:17):
there's no such thing as yeah such things.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
So yeah, there's actually like we've actually talked about panic
before and I brought his Twitter account up a long
time ago before I ever knew that he was going
to play pro or anything, because I thought he was hilarious,
Like the way that he was baiting people on Twitter
made me laugh so hard and it was like he
knew what he was doing every single time, and I
was just like, this is my favorite Twitter account to

(01:02:43):
fall like, every single time he tweets, he's pissing people off.
It's like it's the funniest thing in the world. And
then all of a sudden, I'm watching, you know, locked
in play, I'm like, panic, is that? Is that the
the Twitter account?

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Kid?

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Is that that kid? And it was so it's crazy
to say how it comes full circle in the scene.
We've talked a lot about Panic though, I kind of
want to talk about ham Bino as well. Now Hambino
and he was in Pro League last year ed or
sorry last split, and you know he's kind of tried
to work his way through At this point, where do
you stand with Himbino? And I believe he's iglling currently

(01:03:19):
right now. How what kind of igl style does he
have and how does he compliment your style of play?

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Yeah, you know that's what I think normally like kind
of brought us together is we have the same philosophy
on how to play the game. You know, we kind
of land at like a center like centerichh POI, and
you know, we fast rotate and you know, hit console
and go you know, right to his own So that's
kind of his his style of gelling, which is something
I've been familiar with, you know, in the past with RKN.

(01:03:47):
You know, that's kind of the same style we had,
and that's basically what I'd play my whole career, even
with dating back to Cubski. I don't know if you
remember that like in the early like twenty twenty days,
but yeah, so that kind of brought us together, and
that's kind of his style, which is you know, I'm
a fan of it, and yeah, he's uh, he's really good.
You know, his zone knowledge is top tier. You know,

(01:04:08):
he can read a ring one a ring too his
zone and pretty much know you know, the general vicinity
of where it's gonna end. So it's a it's really
cool to see, you know, he sets up, sets us
up in great spots and kind of lets panic do
his own thing and like lets me you know, run
around a little bit, let me anchor, and uh yeah,
you know he's uh, just over the last you know,
two and a half months that I've played with him,

(01:04:29):
I think he's gotten a lot better and a lot
more comfortable eye yelling, and yeah, I'm excited to see
him continue to grow.

Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
Yeah, like this past weekend, you guys had a second
place finish in game I think three, and then the
game six, you guys had like a fourth or a
fifth there, and both times you guys were sitting in
like pretty good spots early on. I think what was
interesting also watching your team is a lot of teams
right now with the Legend band system, and I wanted
to get your opinion on that. Like in a sec here,
as I talked about this, is like there's a lot

(01:04:58):
of teams that seem like you can tell well, like
each player has an identity and other ones where it's
like you see a lot going on with like how
they're swapping it out. But what I what I mean
by that is like you're kind of taking those anchor
characters Watson, Caustic and so on. Ham's playing like Bang
Crypto and such, and then you got panic on those
characters that are running around just as like some of
the boys was talking before when we were just chatting

(01:05:20):
about this, was like they called them the in characters,
your ash, your your wraith, You're ballistic, right, So like
it was, uh, yeah, it was pretty cool to see
that you guys had that identity, but it also to
in the way that, like you mentioned, Hambino was giving
like Panic the chance to like go out and just
do like crazy shit like that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
That's game where you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:05:38):
Came second, like Panics just poorting on teams and stuff
like that, while Hambino's altering them with Crypto and so,
I don't know, it's pretty cool to see that you
guys have like that set identity, which I think is
really important with the Legend band system going forward to
help people can perform more consistent when things are changing
up so much. What have you thought about that now
with like this new system after your first official pro

(01:05:58):
league day playing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
With it, Yeah, you know, I'm I was a big
fan of it, you know, because I do think like
a al just is getting like a little stale. They
needed to change some things up. So I was a
fan initially when they introduced the Legend band system, and
it kind of worked in my favorite too, because I
played goshly, I mean, like every Legend in the book
except for like Pathfinder, you know, and like some some

(01:06:21):
movement characters. I guess because I'm not a very node
for being a movement player.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
But when you were subbing in at Champs.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, falcous about as much movement as as
I as I get to.

Speaker 7 (01:06:35):
But yeah, yeah about the the bew Bang Rank sessions,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
Yeah those, yeah that we do have the Bang, the
Bang Theo. But yeah, yeah, I was. I was a
big fan of the Legend band system. The way our
team has set it up, you know, it kind of
works out for us. You know, we're all on similar roles,
so we're not swapping out on too much while we plan.
It creates like a really good synergy for us. We
kind of all know our roles, you know, like I

(01:07:06):
said on giving you know Console Legends, you know, Panics
on the Fragger Legends, and you know Bino's on like
Crypto and you know Legends that he can scowl with.
So I think it's it's worked in our favor so far.
You know, it's only been one week, but yeah, I
think it a will keep improving on it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
You talked earlier about how the last time you'd been
on there, there had been about, you know, four or
five different teams that you had been on going through
this whole process. And I feel like at the time
when we first had you on the Guard. There was
like a really good run that you guys were on,
and then after that things kind of took a lull,
took a there was like a you know, just an
era of your trying to get back to that place

(01:07:46):
where you can get to a land and kind of
flash your skills and show off to the rest of
the world, like what bo can do. Going through all
that and going through all these different teams and the
different teammates, rosters, all that kind of stuff, Like how
much do you learn about yourself as a player and
as a person just kind of going through that adversity
trying to get back to a place where you can

(01:08:06):
find some sort of stability.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Oh yeah, man, I mean you really find out about
the person you are when things aren't going well, you know,
And I, uh, you know, I've definitely had a bunch
of up and down moments in my career, you know,
with back then with the Garden. The last time we
did an interview, you know, we were like, I think
like first and Pro League or second in Pro League
or I can't remember what we finished, but you know,
we were doing well and you know, we were qualifying

(01:08:29):
for Land. And then last year, I mean it was
just abysmal. You know, we didn't qualify for Land at all,
so it was definitely tough. I learned a lot about myself.
I think each year I've learned something new, and last
year I kind of you know, figured that, you know,
in order for me to perform my best I have
to play with, you know, people who have like a

(01:08:53):
really positive mindset. And that's not saying like my teammates
in the past didn't, but like I think, you know
someone who doesn't you know, scream or yell, you know,
kind of just someone who's like level headed, I guess,
and kind of keeps the vibes going. So I've kind
I've kind of learned that. And yeah, it makes you
when when you you know, don't do so hot and

(01:09:15):
you have to watch Lands, I can think it kind
of makes you more hungry to get back into it,
you know, especially since I've I've played at Lands before,
so I know what it took to get there, and
I know what the feeling was like. And then having that,
you know, being taken away from you for a year
is uh. You definitely learn a lot from it and
it drives me and you know, makes me hungrier to

(01:09:38):
get back, So that's ultimately the goal this year. Luckily
I've already gonna get to play in one, so I'm
doing I'm doing doing good so far.

Speaker 5 (01:09:49):
Yeah, I was actually gonna ask, like, so with that
coming up, we're just about a month away, and the
last time, like I think it was like the split
one playoffs for year three that you were at. So
now that you guys go coming back, especially Hambido and
Panics first time at Land too, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, Like,
have you guys talked about that, how you're feeling, especially
with like the open one hundred and sixty teams? What

(01:10:11):
the thoughts or the game plan is going with like
kind of handling this sort of new format or is
it just kind of going in trying to keep the
vibes up, Like, what are you guys thinking about with
this Land coming up in just about four weeks here?

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
Yeah, you know, we're definitely excited. We haven't thought too
much about it. You know, we we kind of are
going into it, you know, knowing that if we just
play our game, you know, we do our play style,
we don't do anything too crazy, like we'll uh, we'll
be there in the end, you know, we'll play well
and we'll get there. We're definitely prepping for it, you know,

(01:10:44):
each week, and you know it is it is kind
of a crazy format, you know, the one hundred and
sixty teams, so you know, really anything can happen, I guess.
But yeah, I know we're going into with the positive mindset,
just going to play our best. And I always thought
that I always played my best when I was at
playing out Land. I really thought thrive off people's energy

(01:11:04):
and like the crowd and stuff like that. So you know,
I think going into you know, we expect to do
good and.

Speaker 4 (01:11:13):
Yeah, we need those bow pop offs. Again, I don't
think there's a great picture.

Speaker 5 (01:11:19):
Yes, we're talking about that lying up there. It looks
like man just hits super saim.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Legitimately.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Yeah, So I.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Do want to kind of talk about that feeling of
being at a land too, And you said sometimes it's
it feels like you play your best when you have
that energy there, when you're in front of the crowd.
Do you think, like, is that something that when you
first went into it you kind of had to feel
out and was there like a learning curve to being
in front of other people rather than just being at home.
Or was it kind of just naturally easy for you

(01:11:52):
to just play your best in front of everybody else.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
I think for me it came a little bit naturally.
I've always kind of of, you know, enjoyed I guess
entertaining or you know, I've always tried to make people
laugh in the past, or you know, like on like
around crowds and stuff like that, or you know, just
bring a positive spirit, positive mindset. So you know, when
I saw people cheering or when we happen to do good.

(01:12:19):
You know, my first sign at Rawley and everybody was
you know, cheering for us, clapping for us, stuff like that,
it kind of, you know, just got me to a
playing level that I had never played at before. And
I never had any nerves. I never had any like
I was never scared or anything like that. It just
uh kind of came naturally. Yes, So I got I
got lucky with that. Yeah. I never never nervous or anything.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
So I love that. I love it just because there
are sometimes those players, and it could be in any
sport where it just seems like whenever the moment's at
the top where you really have to performance, just there's
just some players you just do it, and it's fun
to watch those types of guys because they make a
name for themselves in playoffs all that kind of stuff,
So it's really cool to watch. Now here's the big question.

(01:13:07):
I was listening back to our first interview and you
said something very important. And we've been talking about vibes
a lot. You said you needed to find teammates that
you could share a beer with, and I felt like
that needed to be quoted somewhere. Honestly, I might put
it in the studio. I just need a teammate I
can share a beer with. Obviously, there are some members
of your team who aren't at that age yet that

(01:13:28):
you can't do that. But how are you feeling with
the team going in? Have you have you guys ever met?
Have you guys ever or has it all been online?

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
Yeah? And me and him Bino have met twice. I'm
met him and the I think it was Twitch Con
in San Diego twenty twenty two. I think it was
the first time I met him, and then I saw
him recently for the Red Bullan in Chicago last year.
So yeah, we've met. We've met twice. I've not met panic. Yeah,
we will not be sharing a beer with panic. We'll
be sharing a Coke zero or a soda, maybe an apple,

(01:14:01):
you know, but uh, yeah, I know Bino is a
really cool guy man, definitely someone you can grab a
drink with, super nice, super chill guy. So yeah, I definitely,
I definitely stand by that quote still it is yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
It was like you opened the interview with that quote,
which is like that's perfect. I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
Yeah. I think I think that you know, it kind
of stands for really everything you know, coworkers or you know,
friends or teammates. Yeah, I mean you got to be
around people that you can have a beer with at
the end of the day, beautifull.

Speaker 5 (01:14:38):
I like, if we really wanted to think about it,
I don't think people realize like how much of like
the team dynamic is important. Like if you're gonna spend
every day six to eight hours scrimming with these guys
and then all weekends and everything like that and you
can't stand each other, you know. I know a lot
of people like like to talk about like, oh my god,
like how can these guys who are competing well like

(01:14:58):
just not like put their differences aside and play like
it's I don't think you can. I think eventually that
like it will implode and the results won't come. Like,
you need to be able to want to share a
beer with someone and want to be around them every
single day if you're gonna want to be able to
compete at your best level, because at some point, you're
just your performance will regress if you're hating logging in
to talk to a guy every.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
Fucking day, right, Yeah, absolutely, man, You're not just You're
not just co workers. I think to truly be a
great team you have to have a little bit of
friendship there. You know, you don't have to be best friends,
but you have to enjoy, enjoy each other and also realize,
you know too that you know we're we're all just
human and you know we're all gonna make mistakes in game,

(01:15:41):
and you know, you got to have some sympathy. So
I think if you create a good friendship and a
good bond, you know you'll ultimately you know, you might
be Matt a little mad in a moment, but you
can have some have some forgiveness, you know, if somebody
does make a mistake, which I think is important because
like I said, we're you know, we're all humans. So
naturally it'll come.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
So moving on into the actual open itself and all
the different rules that are coming with it. Obviously we
have you know, the amount of teams that are going,
but they have also added another map in there too,
and we have the legend ban system as well, So
going through that and and and all the different things
that are changing in how are you where do you
stand with Broken Moon right now? Because that's what I'm

(01:16:23):
really interested in hearing from other players.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
Man, So I definitely get why they wanted to add
another map, you know, I think, you know, you know,
from a respectator perspective, you know, people were probably getting
a little sick of watching World Edge and just Stormpoint,
you know, so I definitely get it. But at the
same time, you can't really put a map in if
it's just not competitive ready, And you know, I think
that's kind of the case with Broken Moon. I think

(01:16:50):
there are good, you know, good parts of the Moon,
but you know, there's just certain zones on the map
that if you're not landing in that quadrant of wherever
that particular zone is. Like let's say I don't know
Broken Wharf for instance, you know, the top right POI
and there are I believe there's three or four chokes
to get into breaker Wharf, but they're all like from

(01:17:12):
high ground to low ground, if that makes sense. So
it's you know, virtually impossible to get through that choke
if somebody, if another team is holding that, you know,
and there's no and there's multiple zones like on the
map like that, which I think is just really bad.

(01:17:33):
I mean, it just gives you essentially teams, you know,
a zero to I don't know, you know, ten percent
chance of winning the game or doing well or and
it should it shouldn't really be like that. I think,
you know, teams should have you know, obviously some zones
are gonna favor other teams, but it should the zone
shouldn't be like that where it's just like you see
the zone is just like gig you know, if you're

(01:17:55):
on a different quadron of the map. I think also
another bad thing about it, or like the points, virtually
everybody kind of has to go through clips side or stasis,
you know, kind of those middle pois. So it just
creates this huge funnel of you know, and pile ups
of you know, three and four teams and stuff like that.

(01:18:15):
So I think I get why they added. I just
don't think it's competitive ready right now. I think they
need to tweak a few things. They need to, like,
you know, either open up the chokes a little bit
wider or you know, maybe I don't know, split some
of the mountains in half to But yeah, that's kind
of kind of my two cents on it. We're gonna
play it either way, so we're gonna have to suck

(01:18:36):
up and do it. But yeah, it's kind of my
two cents.

Speaker 5 (01:18:40):
Yeah, Like production yard zones, that's the one for my
well breakwharf is a good one too within production yard.
I feel like every time you're going over to that
what is it east side of the map, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
I can't think of it off the top of my head.

Speaker 5 (01:18:50):
Regardless, Like there's three or four chokes to get in,
and there's so much like spots where you can hold
from a hype position. Shit, even though you're going to
low ground, you can hold for my hype issis shouldn't
where That's where I find like you just see like
teams funnel all in and everyone dies on edge and
like you end up having like you know, eight teams
for the final circles.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
Oh yeah, dude. Absolutely, It's just kind of that map
where you just hope that you know, two of the
three times that you're playing that map is set that
the zone is relatively close to you. Unfortunately, you know,
I mean, and it sucks too, man, even with like
you know, characters like Valk and you know, movement characters,
that still feel like it's not really enough to be

(01:19:33):
even able to get into a choke. I think, you know,
you're just kind of kind of doomed in particular zones.
And I don't know, it's just it's unfortunate in that
I do think the map has potential to be comp ready,
it's just not there right now.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Was there a map that you had in your mind
that maybe you thought should have went in above Broken Moon?
Or was it just like this, it's close, it just
needs a little bit more work done to it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
Yeah. I I think it was good they added e District.
I think that map is about as close of a
comparty map as you know, World's Edge and Stormpoint I
was probably next time line, So it was good they
were added that. And then you know, instead of Broken Moon,
if I had to pick one, I would have picked Case.
You know, we We played case competitive in twenty twenty

(01:20:22):
and twenty twenty one, and it was actually a lot
of fun. Now, I know that it's like an older
map and they've updated the game a lot and added
a lot of characters, so it would have been you
would be played out differently now, but I think that
map would have given the best like competitive balance, I
guess is the right word for it to, you know,

(01:20:43):
for teens instead of instead of broken in.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
You know, it's not crazy. We've heard from We've heard
about k C a lot, surprisingly because it seems like
whenever it's un ranked, people are like, please get this
map off my screen. But it seems like when it
comes to competitive, people are like, I'd rather play that
and the Broken Moon. So it's not their craziest take.

Speaker 7 (01:21:02):
Well, I will say I would say the general consensus
on the case rank situation is that it is honestly
not that bad when you're only playing it one out
of like three days, and that as long as you're
not playing it for like ninety days straight. But I
enjoy case I think it's Casey is a fun day.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
I enjoy Casey. Yeah, I have a fun day on Casey.
It was dude, too. It was so much fun back
in the day playing comp on CAC you know that
was you know obviously back in like rate Pounthfinder Watson Meadow,
so it was played a little bit different. But there's
a lot of playable spots, you know, Like I think
it brings you know, it's like the old map you
know as the first map ever, so it brings that

(01:21:43):
kind of like old school factor, you know, kind of
everybody's familiar with it. So yeah, I enjoyed it, but
I don't think we'll be playing them unfortunately.

Speaker 7 (01:21:52):
Sure it has nothing to do with the effectiveness of
the charge rifle on said map.

Speaker 5 (01:21:58):
I think it could be interesting too with uh, with
like metas where we're seeing a lot more Newcastle now,
like like Eve the previous meta, there's like Rampart Newcastle, Uh,
Gibbie like could have been interesting because there's some spots
like that gauntlet area, like there's no where to hold
where it's like you could create your cover with those characters.
What I think the biggest problem with Casey would be

(01:22:18):
is POI draft, Like, I don't think there's twenty playable
pois like on that map, is there?

Speaker 4 (01:22:24):
I could be wrong, but like that's the only thing.

Speaker 5 (01:22:26):
I wonder how like that would work POI draft now,
But yeah, I know that no one wants to play
Olympus or Broken Move.

Speaker 4 (01:22:32):
That's the number the number one thing.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
Definitely not Olympus. Definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
I think Olympus is the bottom of everybody's lists. I
think I think that's at the bottom. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:42):
Yeah, and they need to do a lot to that map,
not just for comp but in ranked two in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Yeah, uh so for people, I guess I kind of
wanted to go back and go through your history as
just a player, getting into Apex, all that kind of
stuff for people who haven't heard, because obviously that first
interview is such a long time ago. So did you
kind of want to run through your your history with us,
How did you get into Apex legends or just gaming
in general, and then how did it transition into becoming
a pro player?

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
Yeah, man, so I was. I think it was a
grat I was a grad student at Florida State and
it was January February of twenty twenty, and I started
playing Apex just like a little bit, you know, just
having fun play with my brother, and my brother would
always have something about it do get on play a

(01:23:30):
couple of rounds with me, you know, and I'd be like,
I think I was like playing like Call of Duty
or Destiny at the time, so I was like, nah, bro,
I don't want to play that game. And then, you know,
I started playing it more and more and I was
enjoying it. And then you know, COVID happened, like I
think March of that year of twenty twenty, and you know,
everything essentially went virtual, you know, school, work, like everything.

(01:23:53):
So I had so much time to you know, be
at home and play games, you know, so much free time.
So I started playing Apex, you know, I started climbing
up the ranks and I got to I think it
was like the number three pred on console on Xbox.
And then I watched an ALGs tournament by chance, kind
of just was scrolling through Twitch and then I saw

(01:24:14):
like ALGs tournament. I can't remember what online tournament was,
it was like OT three or four or something like that,
and I kind of watched it by chance, and I
was like, man, this seems like so much fun, and
uh yeah. I switched over to PC in May of
twenty twenty, and I've been competing ever since. We actually
made the first LGS finals we ever competed in. So

(01:24:37):
I guess technically back then you were pro if you
made an LGS finals or if you were signed, but
there weren't a lot of signed teams at the time,
so I guess I turned pro basically in summer of
twenty twenty. It's kind of my first first time.

Speaker 5 (01:24:54):
Yeah, I was looking up here May thirty first, twenty twenty.
It was OT six Yeah free.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
Yeah, that was me and Plain and uh Swerzy, I
believe it was. I think we got like twelve through thirteen,
but it was our first. Uh it was our first
tournament together and first ALGs and we made finals, so
it's pretty cool. Something I thought that was even funny
is like Madness and noct Or playing together again, and
I remember that you guys all played together.

Speaker 4 (01:25:20):
But then you guys also did finish Pro League that split.

Speaker 5 (01:25:23):
Which was always I always was interested in that story
because of the fact that I remember you guys had
like one bad day but actually weren't doing that bad
and then.

Speaker 4 (01:25:32):
Just stop Pro League.

Speaker 5 (01:25:33):
But then you guys all got picked up by different
teams and like finished off to split with different teams.
If I recall that was like the last COVID split
pro League. I think it was like before playoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:25:43):
Yeah, man, that team had that team had really high hopes.
So we were playing good for a little bit and
then Pro League happened. We just were kind of, uh,
We're just kind of like a sinking ship unfortunately, you know. Yeah,
I mean I've had a lot of teammates over my
career and I can't account how many, but it's it's
been a lot. But yeah, that was that was a
fun team. You know, I'm still uh, I'm still cool
with those guys. You know, Madness was always cool to

(01:26:05):
me and uh, you know me and Knock your cool
and yeah, I was actually really surprised because on paper
that roster was gonna be really good, but we just
we just weren't.

Speaker 5 (01:26:14):
Yeah, because I think it was E and I on
literally like our last podcast were like, have Madness and
Knock ever played together? We went back and forth for
a long time and then it was like, oh yeah
they played with boat back for were you guys signed
a ghost gaming or am I like mixing up the
timelines there?

Speaker 4 (01:26:27):
I think I'm mixing up with timelines.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
On the on the Madness team.

Speaker 5 (01:26:31):
No, No, I think Madness left to go to Ghost Gaming.
You guys were told benchwarmers.

Speaker 4 (01:26:35):
Of the time. I think that's what it was.

Speaker 3 (01:26:36):
Yeah, I think I think Madness went. Maybe it was
CLG at the time. Still I can't remember. Yeah, I
don't know. Funny, funny, funny story maybe some I guess
I can talk about it this time. But we were
actually gonna be signed to Cloud nine. Uh that Madness
meet me and him and Knock and we were gonna
we were talking with them, We had pretty much the

(01:26:57):
contracts written up like everything, and then they kind of
like ghosted us, and then we ended up breaking up
like a week later. So I guess there's a blessing
in disguise for Cloud nine, but they didn't. They just
ghosted us and didn't sign us.

Speaker 5 (01:27:10):
Yeah, and then doesn't Knock go on to get signed
by Cloud nine after that, like he does with with
with the Zach Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
Yeah, Yeah, it was kind of crazy how that worked out.
We all ended up coming out on the other side
of that, Okay, So yeah, that was good at least.

Speaker 4 (01:27:27):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
So there's been a eagy you have one.

Speaker 7 (01:27:32):
Yeah, So I was gonna get back to when you
said that you like, when you don't hit Land, that
then you have like a higher drive. How does that
drive like manifest into your life experience as you're prepping
and getting ready for Land? And then also do you

(01:27:52):
notice as like a side question along with that is like,
do you notice any difference in your regular like lifestyle
when you're performing at your best versus when you are
in a period of like struggle.

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
Yeah. Uh, to answer your second your second question first, Yeah, man, definitely,
when I'm doing better, you're kind of like on top
of the world, you know, Like I think when I
was on the Guard and I was some of the
best well, I guess the rolely Land and then when
I was on the Guard was probably the peak of
my apexture so far. Yeah, definitely, Man, When you're doing good,
things are great. Everything's you know, you're happy all the time,

(01:28:33):
you're you know, life, life is good. And then you
know when you're doing bad, it's, uh, it sucks, man,
It really does. When like last year when we were
doing really bad and proving not making lands, you know,
definitely doesn't make life, doesn't make life easy. I guess
it sucks when you're getting paid to play a game
and then you're not performing well. It definitely it's very

(01:28:55):
stressful on you. But you know, I've kind of been, uh,
you know, grateful for everything. I think you have to
be appreciative of your failures just as much as your successes.
So you know, I think I'm grateful for it all
in a way, for all that. But yeah, to answer

(01:29:17):
your questions, it definitely does make your life a lot
better when you're doing good. Definitely, it is your lifestyle
for sure. I definitely prefer doing doing bad for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
To win.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
Yes, yes, yes, absolutely, Yeah, what was I'm so, what
was the first question you knock on that part?

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (01:29:39):
So, like how did that drive manifest into like your
preparation of like getting ready to prepare for this land
and like what does life look like as this approachause?

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
Man, definitely I think not making land. You know, you
question like last year, you know, when you do bad,
it questions, you know, what are you doing wrong? You know,
why is it just work? Et cetera. And then ultimately,
you know, I think, you know, gaming in general, you
have to put in time, you know, I guess just
with anything in life, you have to put in more time,
you know. And then I thought, you know, I was

(01:30:12):
putting in a lot of time last year, but you know,
truvilly speaking, I wasn't. So you know you have to
have that, you know, that identity within yourself to say, hey,
like I'm not you know, I wasn't putting it much time.
I wasn't doing this right. So you know, going to
this land, I'm preparing a lot more preparing with the team,
a lot more putting in, more time, more effort, because

(01:30:36):
you know, seeing that failure last year is not something
I want to go through again.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
Do you think it's harder to kind of prepare for
something like this when there's so many more variables now?
Like before, let's just go back, for instance, to the Guard.
It was like, for the most part, a lot of
teams were playing the same comp and for the most
part we really just had the same two maps. I
guess the one thing that you really didn't contest were
also a thing. Then you know you didn't have to

(01:31:02):
worry about POI draft. Is it harder now to prepare
or do you think it's almost opened up a gap
being able to have different compositions, different pois, different maps,
like which where do you fall on that? Do you
think it's a little bit easier because there is you know,
there's a lot more open area and it's not just
so rigid with the same team comps and you know

(01:31:23):
people taking the same pois. Or is it more difficult
because there's a lot more to look at?

Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
Yeah, I think I think it's probably maybe a little
bit of both. I would say I would lean more
on the difficult side because especially you know, coming up
to this lants like one hundred and sixty teams and
you know, back in the you know, in normal lands,
like for forty teams, you can do a lot more scouting.
You know, know how a lot more teams around you
play know what they're going to play, so you could
play around it. And now kind of with the uncertainty

(01:31:50):
of you know, all these teams of what they're getting
to do, like what they're going to play, you know,
it brings like another uh, you know, difficult level to
it to for preparation, you know, to get ready to play.
Seeh I definitely think it's a little a little bit
more difficult.

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
I would say now outside of the game is how
do you prepare in that format? Like how do you
prepare when you're not in game. Is there something you
have to do mentally to keep yourself in check? Is
it like getting on a like a routine, a schedule,
Like how do you keep yourself locked in? Because you
said before, like you weren't as locked in last split

(01:32:28):
as you wish you would have been. Have you changed
your outside regimen to kind of like replicate and reflect
what you want to be doing in game.

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
Yeah, Recently I've been getting on a better schedule, you know,
I've been getting some more sunshine, going to the beach,
kind of trying to enjoy life outside of the game
and kind of find that happiness so I can be
happy in game. You know, I think taking care of yourself,
taking care of your body is an important thing, and
I always hadn't done that. You know, I've definitely let

(01:32:58):
my body go a few times, but I've always noticed
like when I play my best, when I done my
best in game, it's because my outside life has you know,
I've been in a like a good routine where I'm
doing things for myself and enjoying life. So yeah, I
think I think, Uh, to answer your question, yeah, I
think your outside life definitely goes into uh, your in

(01:33:21):
my your in game life, I guess.

Speaker 5 (01:33:24):
Translates too, is what keeps you coming back? Because I
know you took like a break there from competing for
a while. It seems like you're doing a lot more
stuff with your personal life, like just enjoying that, but
you keep coming back to like to compete, Like.

Speaker 4 (01:33:37):
What what's uh?

Speaker 5 (01:33:38):
What gives you that itch to like just want to
get back in the game all the time?

Speaker 3 (01:33:43):
Yeah? Man, you know I've been a I'm just a
competitive person, man, anything I do. You know, I come
from a really competitive family. You know, it doesn't matter
if we were playing cards or you know, I don't know,
doing anything outside golf, tennis, you know anything. Really We've
always just kind of wanted to win. You know, we
just like win in and rub in you know each

(01:34:03):
other's faces. So yeah, I just I love to compete.
And honestly, there's just quite there's quite nothing like it
when you're doing good, you know, Like I've always said,
like it can never really describe when you like win
an ALGs game or like you win a game on Land,
It's just like a like a feeling that you know
where you're your like soul kind of like leaves your

(01:34:24):
body and you just get like so excited, and it's
not something you can really replicate. So just having that feeling,
I guess, is something I kind of want to experience again.

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
Yeah, I think as as just watchers and enjoyers of ALGs,
we desperately need a new Rambo photo, like we need
a new We need a new one that everybody can
tweet out because when that photo first, everybody knows the photo.
I mean, I don't know. I feel like I should
put it in the pod. I feel I don't have to,
though I think everybody's seen it. We need another one
we need to add to that photo collection.

Speaker 4 (01:34:55):
That's where that just the photo.

Speaker 5 (01:34:56):
My thing is also too, is the GMT run when
you subbed in with them was one the most entertaining
things we've ever had in APEX, and I don't think
we've had like I don't know, I got to really
think of like if I could pintopoint a team that's
had like a personality like that team had, Like it
was so funny because like you just filled in, but
you guys clicked so well, and I'll never forget. One
of my favorite clips in ALGs is uh, you guys

(01:35:18):
are It's it's like I think at like North Pad,
you guys are just sitting here like talking and they
have them listening for like the the the whole the crowd,
and then they start cheering. And then Naski goes, are
they cheering for us? Can you hear us?

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
Right now?

Speaker 3 (01:35:31):
So?

Speaker 4 (01:35:32):
Can you hear us?

Speaker 5 (01:35:32):
And then they go yeah, you guys all just I
start screaming, like while you're on your combs, and it's
like again, it's like, I don't know, we don't get
like that that energy all the time. And I feel
like that makes you know, Land special, like as opposedly
just proleague.

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:35:47):
Man, no, absolutely at the end of the day too,
like as players, you know, we also are entertainers. You know,
I don't think some some realize that. But you want to,
you know, put on a good show. You want to
get you know, the crowd high, if you want to
get people high to you. And uh yeah that that
GMT run then was was something specially a Naski's you know,
probably my best friend in the scene. I would actually

(01:36:08):
wouldn't say probably, you know, he's he is my best
friend in the scene. So when we were together, you know,
we were we just had a good old time and
he didn't worry about anything else other than having fun.
And then it worked out really well. And that kind
of ties back into you know, the things that I
told you that, you know, when I look for a team,
you know, I'm big on vibes, and you know, me
and Nasky had that the whole the whole weekend.

Speaker 5 (01:36:27):
So had you guys known each other going into that
pretty well? Or was it like that land where you
guys like kind of hit it off and connected after?

Speaker 3 (01:36:36):
Yeah, you know he that was the first time we met.
Was that at rally right there at that land. You know,
we had played a bunch like online. We were doing
like I don't know if you guys remember like es
Attorneys back in the day, like the Open Weeks stuff
like that. So we were playing Uh it's actually me,
Nasky and kay Sweeney were playing those together for like

(01:36:56):
every time we could, which was which was really fun.
We were doing now we're playing Ranked a lot together
and we were just talk. You know, we have we
have similar personalities, you know, a similar sense of humor,
so you know, we just kind of connected on that
and we both loved us a good cigarette. Uh, you know,

(01:37:16):
but uh yeah, man, uh that was our first time meeting.
Uh yeah, we just we're good buddies. So I think
that propelled us into uh having a good weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
I think that brings up another thing that I didn't
really think about till right now. But you've you mentioned
before traditionally throughout your career you've played zone and you've
tried your best to like be get the early rotate
getting to the spot you want to get early. That
means there's a lot of downtime. That means there's a
lot of kind of just sitting there just kind of waiting.
How do you keep yourself sane when you're just sitting

(01:37:48):
there waiting for a long time like you did? You
kind of just what's going through the team's mind when
that's happening. For a zone guy like yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:37:57):
Oh yeah, man, there's a god. I mean, I think,
but I probably wasted a lot of time in my
life just sitting in a building center zone waiting, waiting,
waiting for ring four or five to pop.

Speaker 4 (01:38:07):
Start hearing Watson fences in your sleep.

Speaker 3 (01:38:11):
Yeah, I don't know, man, You gotta you gotta throw
in a couple of wall bounces in there. You know,
think of things in your head, you know, you know,
think about what you're gonna eat later, you know, you
know stuff like that. You know, try to just kill
some time. But you know there's things you can do
when you're you know, sit and zone. You know, think
about you know, your biggest threat. You know what teams
are you know gonna have to push you later, or

(01:38:33):
you know where my Watson fences or my traps like
in the best spots they could be. You know, stuff
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
So how consistent are your superglines?

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
Dude?

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
I don't think I've ever super I don't ever think
I could have super lied in my epi's career. I
don't think so. I've been I've been some practicing.

Speaker 1 (01:38:52):
Bro, you have all this time.

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
You got the time for it.

Speaker 7 (01:38:56):
Yeah, you easy, got that timing, and then it'll be
movement bow. Everybody's gonna be like, dude, did you see both.

Speaker 4 (01:39:02):
That Watson flying across the district right now? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:39:07):
Yeah, that's my next arc. You know I'm going I went,
I'm gonna go from the turret, you know, the the
the low sense player to the movement player. Man, do
you complete one eighty?

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
Dude?

Speaker 7 (01:39:19):
I don't think I'll ever forget watching I think I was.

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
It was either Pro League or Scrims, and I just.

Speaker 7 (01:39:24):
Saw you you climb up on a rooftop with a
prowler and then just ins to just two people just dead,
and then the fight's just over and just like that's
just that's about.

Speaker 3 (01:39:37):
Oh yeah, I know, I know what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
That can't get hit from behind that or it's tough scenes.

Speaker 3 (01:39:43):
You gotta be in front of me, bro, you gotta
be on my screen, or.

Speaker 2 (01:39:46):
It's uh so, I kind of like I said earlier,
I was, I was listening to uh to our old interview,
and I just wanted to go through some things real quick.
I also had a moment that I remembered that we
didn't get to have you on talk about this, But
there was a day of pro League where you had
a corese light and you just had a cracked open
right before Pro League, and I think you guys did

(01:40:08):
good that day. I just want to say that was
bad ass. That's not even really a question. Shoutout course light,
shoutout sponsor, me sponsor. And then also the other one
was in our first interview, you said that you had
a gamer tag that used to be Boneanners, and I
just want to ask. I just want to get the
people out. I want to get a survey from the
people Bone Andners, what do we feel about the name?

(01:40:29):
Because I feel like Boneanners is rock star. That's a
sick name.

Speaker 3 (01:40:34):
Yeah, dude, I've contemplated going back many times to Bonanners
doing a little throwback. I think I don't know, maybe
it just would be too hard because everybody kind of
knows me as Rambo now to go back to to
do it this late. But yeah, man, I think I
think Bonanners is probably cooler than Rambo. Uh for sure

(01:40:56):
I would, uh, but yeah, I guess it's kind of
just too late to go back.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
Un Fortunately, it's unfortunately because it's like it's not like
an easy transition. Like if if Hal ever wanted to
just be Hal, that's pretty easy, right, it's imperially how
to how but to go from Rambo to Boneanners a
little bit of a jump.

Speaker 1 (01:41:12):
At least you keep the bow.

Speaker 3 (01:41:14):
True true people would know it's me.

Speaker 7 (01:41:15):
I guess you got to hit the subtle crossover as
like you you don't change the Twitter app, but you
change like the Twitter name and just get people ready
for it and then boom, the switch comes.

Speaker 4 (01:41:29):
Yeah is back.

Speaker 3 (01:41:31):
Yeah, maybe I'll do it in a in Scrims or
maybe I'll you know what, maybe I'll do a throwback
for ALGs.

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
That'd be.

Speaker 3 (01:41:39):
Yeah, that would be cool.

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
That'd be sick. I just and I mentioned it in
the first interview too, but I said to you, I
was like, that would be insane. If there's a high
intense moment at the ALGs open and instead of saying Rambo,
they're saying bone Anners and they're just at the time
like they're casting Boneanners in a very serious moment. Uh,
it would be hilarious but also awesome at the same time. Yeah,

(01:42:00):
best both the worlds.

Speaker 5 (01:42:02):
I mean, that's already like I've always wondered, like with
a name like his, Watson was a funny one to
try and say serious right, Like, they didn't even just
cut it down to Watson.

Speaker 4 (01:42:11):
They just kept it as his left especially.

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
Knowing the backstory of it now where it was like
her Gibbie Watson. It's hilarious. It's hilarious. I didn't have
any more boys? Did did you want to hit it?
Did you have did you guys have any more?

Speaker 4 (01:42:26):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
My thing second one I always ask.

Speaker 5 (01:42:29):
Yeah, you can rip them in the sect there, but
I don't know. From the sounds of it, I think
that they open. We gotta be watching close to your team.
Why if they win, we gotta walk over with some
some cores, lights or whatever whatever the venue selling, because
I don't think we can sneak beer into the venue
and make sure Bo gets one on camera.

Speaker 2 (01:42:49):
Act to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:51):
But ask, can you chug a beer very quickly? Very
quickly quickly? Maybe not as good as I used to.
I don't drink as much as I.

Speaker 4 (01:42:59):
That's fine, we'll get you.

Speaker 5 (01:43:00):
Why chugg on why it may be the slowest beer
chugger in history. I thought he was doing a bit
in Japan where I thought he was purposely not drinking
it fast.

Speaker 4 (01:43:09):
He's like, no, as fast as I could drink it.
I thought it was.

Speaker 5 (01:43:12):
There's a clip of him on the broad it's on
the broadcast. He stands up, he goes to drink it.
I don't even think you get into quarter of the
cup done by the time they finally get off him,
because he was not going anywhere with that cup.

Speaker 2 (01:43:22):
It was bad. So I was trying to hit the
crowd hiped up because we were on a pause for
like twenty minutes and the camp we were front row
and the camera comes on me. I was like, I'm
gonna get the crowd going, and I couldn't. I couldn't
finish it. The camera's on me solid fifteen twenty seconds.
I could not get it down.

Speaker 4 (01:43:38):
Not finish it. Let's say he did not make it
past half.

Speaker 2 (01:43:42):
Yeah, it was bad. It was bad. What can I say?
I like to enjoy a good course life.

Speaker 3 (01:43:47):
Yeah, maybe you got to, man, you got to enjoy it. Yeah,
I do, like I do. I do like a good shotgunder,
a good chug, you know, but sometimes you do got
to just enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:56):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean that's the only thing I can
do is really enjoy it. Did you want to hit
them with it?

Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:44:01):
But before I hit you with the question that I
ask everybody who comes on for the second time. I
don't think we were asking people the first time you
were on. And so the people need to know, especially
with Land coming up, are you top bunk or bottom bunk? Oh,
there we go when it comes to the platform on stage,
not how you may or may not compose the hotel beds.

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
We've had that confusion, had that confusion people.

Speaker 3 (01:44:30):
Okay, okay, So like you're talking about where we play
on land on the stage, uh, I think so the
first lane I was on the top, the second one
I was on the bottom, and I preferred. Oh that's tough, man.
I think I prefer the top because I think you

(01:44:52):
kind of got like a better view of everything from
the top. So I think I kind of like that better.

Speaker 1 (01:44:59):
I was talking little sturdy up there. You don't feel
like it's a little.

Speaker 3 (01:45:02):
No, I don't. Yeah, yeah, it is a little shaky, man,
it is a little shaky. And then I think so
for the London one that I played in, we were
sitting right below TSM, so I obviously I couldn't tell
who won the game at the end because we were watching.
Uh I can't remember who got second that line. I
think it was.

Speaker 5 (01:45:24):
Fight or no London would have been a sent yeah yeah, yeah,
can sure tea Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:45:30):
So we were watching him, so I couldn't tell who
the other team was, but I knew that TSM was
above us. And then I heard stomping when the game ended,
you know, like crazy, like it was a fucking zoo
or something, you know, So I I assumed that they won.

Speaker 7 (01:45:46):
I never thought about how defeating that must feel to
be on the bottom bunk of the team that just won.

Speaker 3 (01:45:52):
Oh yeah, dude, I'm like, because that just got a hit.

Speaker 7 (01:45:56):
Like that's just a different adding, just another sense and
to the equation.

Speaker 3 (01:46:01):
Oh yeah, I do big time because I think we
got like sixteenth or seventeenth in that finals or whatever.
And then I'm just hearing them just celebrating. I'm just like,
I need a drink. I need I need a beverage
or like twelve right now.

Speaker 4 (01:46:14):
I will say.

Speaker 5 (01:46:14):
What I do know is that if you ever want
a fire photo and like you're in match point finals
and everything like that, actually just even into anything, you
want to sit on the bottom if you're hoping for
the fire picks. And the reason why is because the
photographer we've talked to him, Joe, and he can't get
to the top, like like like he could be behind
you at the top.

Speaker 4 (01:46:32):
He can't get your face. So that's what he always
tells us.

Speaker 5 (01:46:35):
He says he's always wants to always wants a team
of bottom to win, so we could get a.

Speaker 3 (01:46:38):
Good pick tu the church row. That makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:46:41):
Yeah, that was a rare answer to the top.

Speaker 5 (01:46:44):
See I find roler players mostly say top and the
top used to win until a lot of players.

Speaker 2 (01:46:48):
I thought it was always bottom because we have like
a run.

Speaker 5 (01:46:52):
But most most m and K the guys wanted bottom
because there's they said, the top rattles. But then recently
a lot of the guys have been telling us they
fixed that. But we had I feel like we had
like a good amount of talk. So, like I remember,
Top was winning for a while. Maybe it was just
that every land was one of the top until last year,
but definitely had a lot of people, especially roller players,
they talk.

Speaker 7 (01:47:10):
Yeah, yeah, well we'll have somebody to do some data
analysis now, Donna. Donna, shout out Donnie. I have a
shout out to Donnie later but for later sure. But
bo all right, So the question that I ask everybody, Okay,
so you already answered the question that I ask everybody

(01:47:30):
who comes on the pod, and so I have an
additional question that I ask everybody who comes on the
pod for a second time, and that would be from
the last time you were on the pod to now,
what is the most important thing you've learned?

Speaker 3 (01:47:46):
Most important thing you've learned? Gosh, man, you know, probably
not to sound like philosol. I don't know, man, just
to I have appreciation for life, man, honestly, you know
the good and the bad. I don't think you can
just be grateful for life during the good. You have
to appreciate the bad too, you know. Over the last like, uh,

(01:48:10):
you know, year year and a half, you know, I've lot,
I've lost a lot of family. So it kind of like,
uh put sing his perspective that nothing is really like
that's serious in life other than you know, like your
loved ones or other than you know, family and stuff
like that, and you know all this other stuff. You know,
you know, don't get me wrong. I love apect and competing,

(01:48:32):
but nothing's really that serious. You know. You've got to
try to just enjoy life and enjoy the people around
you while you can see. I would just say that,
I would just say that I would just learn to
try to find happiness and love and appreciative of the
people around me more while I still can.

Speaker 2 (01:48:54):
That's beautiful, man, That's that's perfect right there. And uh
and that's exactly who to hear. And like we said,
it's it's been a long time coming to get you
back on the show. But it's been a pleasure having
you back on talking to you once again, and like
I said, man, you guys locked in has been fun
to watch and they are still in sign. Somebody snatch
this team up, please, we gotta get let me do

(01:49:15):
this for a living Hell yeah, baby, hell yeah baby. Well, Bo,
it was awesome having you back on. We really do
appreciate it. And hopefully after this, after this open, the
next time we have you back on, you've got a
trophy in that trophy case. That's what we're looking for here.

Speaker 3 (01:49:31):
That's the plan. Man, it would be a dream come true.
So we're working towards it, let's hope.

Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
So hell yeah, man, hell yeah man. All right, Bo, Well,
thank you once again. Man, We appreciate it. All right,
ladies and gents, it is heart to heart time, heart
to heart time jump but you already know what time
it is. I don't have to tell you you've been here.

Speaker 4 (01:49:53):
What I think. I think I'm gonna go roll with
this one.

Speaker 5 (01:49:58):
So I wear this hat a lot lately, and I
wanted to like just quickly say because in a nice
week's chat, someone saw me wearing this hat in one
of my videos, was like, Rangers may not be good
right now but you know, let's go Rangers. And I
was like, I don't care about the Rangers at all. Really,
They're just like of the NHL teams. You guys know,
I'm hockey fans of the NHL teams that are out there.
There's like a team that I don't dislike either, Right,

(01:50:20):
So I'm okay wearing the hat like you would never
cut catch me caught dead wearing a Montreal Canadians half
for ex Right, So anyways, yeah, I wanted to Like
the reason I'm bringing up was like, you see me,
I am not a New York Rangers fan.

Speaker 4 (01:50:34):
I'm Diehard The's fan, and honestly I.

Speaker 5 (01:50:38):
Am Cup's missing missing.

Speaker 1 (01:50:43):
Look, you're wearing the hat.

Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
He is wearing a different teams hat.

Speaker 4 (01:50:47):
I don't even know what this is from.

Speaker 5 (01:50:49):
I don't but like I can turn around my room
and I just got random leave some memorabilia, like I.

Speaker 1 (01:50:53):
Put this, yeah, to go with your to go with
your New York hat.

Speaker 2 (01:50:58):
And to be fair, you're not wearing the cut you
know you're wearing a Ranger.

Speaker 5 (01:51:03):
Is New York is I will just say I have
two brief heart to hearts. First one, we're gonna wrap
it up Matthew Nys if you guys know you know
that guy. I think I'm gonna name my first born
child after him, not Matthew winning my firstborn child Nys
because he just is an absolute dog when he plays
against Tampa Bay. And if you want to know about
teams I hate, Tampa Bay is one of them.

Speaker 4 (01:51:23):
There you go. So yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:51:26):
So to follow up on Enoch and Matthew Nis and
the Leaves, he texted me and said, I think Tampa
Bay is gonna win the Cup, and then he followed
it up a little bit later and said, I hope
we played Tampa Bay. I think we match up against
them the best. So in like the same day, he
was like, Tampa Bay's winning at all, but if the
Leafs play them, they're fucked.

Speaker 5 (01:51:46):
Like, you don't understand we Tampa Bay, of the options
we have to play in the playoffs right now, are
the only team that I think that we have their number,
we know how to beat them, right, And so I
do think that they are probably most pe of winning
the Stanley Cup, but their least chance of winning the
Stanley Cup is actually if they play the Leafs, because
the Leafs have their number.

Speaker 4 (01:52:07):
That's the thing. I don't know what happens.

Speaker 5 (01:52:09):
Their goalie is insane, and like Vasilewski has like been
fucking one of the most unreal goalies of like the
last ten years, and he's somehow putting up one of
his best seasons this year after like ten seasons or whatever.
But the Leafs know how to score on him. I
don't know why. They just they know how to score.
And I am I am like the worst, Like I
am doomed, a doomer about the Leaves all the time.

(01:52:30):
I think that we're always losing. So when I say that,
I think that we got a chance against Tampa Bay.
That's how you know, I like actually feel and believe
in something there.

Speaker 4 (01:52:39):
But yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:52:41):
Thought you were a Rangers fan.

Speaker 2 (01:52:48):
No, it's incredible. I texted him right after. I was like,
you just told me they were gonna win the Cup.
You're like, yeah, but if we play them, it's over.

Speaker 5 (01:52:56):
And do you also have to understand if we play
them and beat them, that does not mean that I
think we're going to win the Cup.

Speaker 1 (01:53:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:53:02):
I just think that they will win the Cup as
long as.

Speaker 1 (01:53:07):
They don't play the Leaves.

Speaker 5 (01:53:08):
Yeah, I guess I think I have their number they
we swept them in the regular season, which means nothing
usually which means nothing. But it's just like even the
last time we played them in the playoffs, Bazileski can't
save shots against the Leaves, Like, I don't know what happens.
They got something back there. It's like some black magic.
And this guy's in insane, Goldie. I think he does
some like peds on the side, but when he plays

(01:53:28):
the Leaves, the pucks go in.

Speaker 4 (01:53:30):
I don't know why. I can't tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:53:31):
You just accused the man of ped He's insane.

Speaker 5 (01:53:35):
Like, I don't think a person can make saves the
way that that Russian makes saves, except for against the Leafs.

Speaker 4 (01:53:41):
He doesn't make saves. I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:53:43):
So so me and Jumble will text each other about
hockey all the time, and then like sometimes one of
us will get busy and we'll just keep texting each other. Yeah,
it's almost like a lifeline in a way, just to
like get your anger and frustration out. So there was
a Leafs game against the Lightning and I said Toronto
and three because they scored like two goals immediately, and
he goes, I'm telling you, bro, we have Tampa's number.

(01:54:04):
I think they'll win the Cup, but I also think
will there that they're the team will most likely beat
And then he doesn't text me for a while. I
wasn't watching the game. He goes, this is how you
know he was going through it. I usually try not
to blame the refs, but this may be one of
the most lopsided ref games I've ever watched. And then
he followed it up just probably twenty five minutes later,

(01:54:25):
I'm naming my first child Nys, which is Matthew niyes
on the Toronto maple leafs. So yeah, I was his
lifeline in that moment as he's going through watching it.

Speaker 1 (01:54:34):
I didn't any of them crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:54:37):
That is a correct that's a crazy calm, especially when.

Speaker 2 (01:54:40):
The when the guy's name is Matthew, you could just
name his child matt have a Matthew.

Speaker 5 (01:54:44):
Like then like then like no, like Matthew doesn't work
because like it's just such a common name drama. Like
that guy, I like, maybe I'll name my kid Austin
Matthew without the S and then maybe they'll get the
Maybe they'll get it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:05):
Yeah, author you Austin Matthew Nyes. That hyphened middle name
and then your last name. Jumbo jump last name jump,
that's to heart.

Speaker 5 (01:55:19):
I think.

Speaker 4 (01:55:21):
Playoffs start in two weeks.

Speaker 5 (01:55:22):
We're gonna be in New Orleans for I think the
end of the first round, and I guess we should
quickly throw out. The last time I was, the Leafs
were in game seven. I watched that ship in the
stands next to Wyatt at an apex Land. If I
have to watch the Leaves lose, never mind, we could
go to the next heart.

Speaker 2 (01:55:37):
We'll go to the next the next one jump before
we go to the next one.

Speaker 3 (01:55:40):
Though.

Speaker 2 (01:55:40):
All I want to know is like, if I want
to ride with you, can I place money on the
Toronto Maple Leafs. No, okay, what if I place money
on the other team?

Speaker 5 (01:55:50):
That team, anything around my team? Stay the fuck away?

Speaker 2 (01:55:55):
Okay? What if I stay away? Fair enough?

Speaker 1 (01:55:58):
Fair enough?

Speaker 2 (01:55:59):
Touchas we touched on the basis, all right, we got it?

Speaker 1 (01:56:02):
Uh donnie to bet on the Leafs.

Speaker 5 (01:56:05):
No, no, why it went over fucking ten million last
year on prize picks.

Speaker 2 (01:56:11):
I do have one stat. Every time I've watched a
full Leafs game, they've won it. So maybe you need me.
Maybe you need me in New Orleans. When we're watching
full if something bad happens, like if I if my
eyes leave the screen, there's a chance you guys lose.
I'm just saying that because if I've watched a full game,
you guys win. When I fall asleep or like I

(01:56:33):
walk away or go do something, you guys lose. That's
the tough part. We got to just stay locked the
entire time. That's going to be the issue. We'll figure
that out. That'll that we'll get that all squared away.
Don You're hard to heart.

Speaker 6 (01:56:46):
Yeah. So, speaking of the La Land, it's about a
year you know since I went out there for the
first time, and going there it was just knowing Connor
and I knew he was an editor of a podcast
that I had never watched before. But it was, uh,
you know, it was gooda I knew it was gonna
be an interesting experience, and I knew the moment getting
in the car and going to our airbnb from the

(01:57:08):
airport and Kyle cussing out every single person possible. Yeah,
and the absolute jokes that were being made in that
car that it was definitely gonna it was definitely gonna work.
The boys were gonna be boys. It was gonna be
a fun weekend, and uh, you know it also helped
that there was course it's involved, but.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
No, it was.

Speaker 6 (01:57:26):
Basically my point is that it's been a crazy year
of experiences, just with not just you know, the life
I already lived, but just with everything in this space.
I never thought of myself being in podcasts or doing
anything involved with competitive e sports. I guess I just
blabbed it enough to finally find the right person that
would listen. I guess I don't really know, but no,

(01:57:48):
it was. It's been a really cool year. I'm excited
to go back to another land, especially with the absolute
unit of a group that we're gonna be going with.
But yeah, it's awesome, man, it's it's gonna be a
great time. And I'm just appreciative of all the all
things we've done this past year.

Speaker 5 (01:58:03):
So didn't even think about someone's gonna rip the Corps
light run on the first night that we're there.

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
If you want the backstory on the cors light run,
the first time, we went to about seven stores to
find a place that was open and then we got it.
And then also I knew Donnie was a real one
when after the I think it was after it was
the day of Like we woke up to go to
final Sunday long night beforehand because something happened with the

(01:58:31):
podcast that was fucked up and we got it. We
had to fix it. It was all bad. I woke
up immediately, went to the fridge. It's probably nine am,
and I opened a cores light and I said, I
don't want anybody to judge me for this, and I
just cracked one and Donnie was like, well, if you're
gonna do it, I was like, perfect, all right. I
know that I have somebody on my side because that

(01:58:52):
at that point, I was like, Okay, we're good, great,
badass awesome, that's what you.

Speaker 5 (01:58:57):
Guys are gonna be cool buying the alcohol for me though,
so I don't want to bring my fake.

Speaker 2 (01:59:04):
Hell yeah, baby, isn't your isn't Canada's alcohol age like
way lower?

Speaker 4 (01:59:14):
Yeah, nineteen, and like I am, I am of age, like.

Speaker 8 (01:59:17):
Yeah before anybody, I mean, but like like but like yeah,
like I remember once like showing up in the States
and I was like, just about to turn twenty one,
I'm at a bar and.

Speaker 5 (01:59:28):
I can't get a drink and like it's weird because
I feel like I've been able to drink forever now,
and I was like, this is it crazy?

Speaker 4 (01:59:33):
Like the hell having my fucking freedoms taken away from
me in the country's supposed to.

Speaker 2 (01:59:38):
Be the free free.

Speaker 4 (01:59:41):
I'm nineteen.

Speaker 5 (01:59:42):
I canna drove. I coulda drove to Quebec. That's the
only thing I like about them. I hate the Montreal Canadians,
but I could have drove there and I could have
got a beer at eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:59:49):
I don't know I would be if you ripped a
Montreal Canadians hat the way you've been acting recently.

Speaker 5 (01:59:53):
There's a taco place that was like twenty minutes away
from me and they just give under age alcohol to
just anyone at that point.

Speaker 4 (01:59:59):
So, but that's that's got nothing to do with They
weren't supposed to do that.

Speaker 2 (02:00:04):
But yeah, okay, So Dawn, is that your heart to heart?

Speaker 6 (02:00:08):
Yeah? Like I said, just appreciated this past year man,
definitely looking forward to more.

Speaker 2 (02:00:12):
So hell, yeah, baby, do you want to go or
do you need me to rip it? I can go
hit it.

Speaker 1 (02:00:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:00:18):
I mean, I'm gonna be shocking everybody here, but I'm
gonna go with some good old fashioned gratitude. And appreciation,
and I'm going to direct it largely towards this.

Speaker 1 (02:00:30):
Man don who I was.

Speaker 7 (02:00:32):
I was given so I play ranked with Sang and
Sang plays on Nice Guys and they called.

Speaker 1 (02:00:40):
For Land, They're going to Land.

Speaker 7 (02:00:43):
I was like, yeah, I'm probably gonna go to the
last day of Land, and so then he was like, Oh,
why don't you just be our coach and I was like, Hey,
that means I don't have to pay to go to
the venue. And then I like, if I gotta go
backstage and all that, and then like if they make it,
then I gonna be on stage.

Speaker 1 (02:00:58):
During the last set of that. I was like, yeah,
for sure.

Speaker 7 (02:01:01):
And so then I was told from the so like Sang,
Sang and Cody talked about it there down they talked
to RK and RK and said that I would that
I had to put together a list of like ten
to twelve pois or Broken Moon, Stormpoint. Me incredibly unprepared
for that role because I haven't watched a single screen

(02:01:23):
he played on Broken Moon or like or Stormpoint in
quite some time, and so I'm like, Hm, well, I
can just throw something together.

Speaker 1 (02:01:32):
And then I was like, I know an analyst.

Speaker 7 (02:01:35):
We got Don on the podcast, maybe he can help
me out slide into his DMS on discord. I'm like, yo,
I've been asked to do this. I don't I'm very
not prepared. You want to do it? And he's like,
I got you. And so then Don puts together this
immaculate list with like good well thought out.

Speaker 1 (02:01:56):
Reasons to support the positions and all as well.

Speaker 4 (02:02:02):
There we go. Or do you want to like, do
you want to tell him about that?

Speaker 6 (02:02:07):
Or I can? I mean, it doesn't really matter. But
so I the same time that I sent you this
stuff for this weekend, I had sent it to r
k N just so like he had a copy of
it too, And so I mestured him on Twitter that
he replies back, I respect to reach out, bro, but
I've never played a Broken Moon or Eats District, so

(02:02:28):
my bar is pretty low. I wouldn't want you to
overinvest your time into a team that's not all there.
And that's why I like, yeah, I mean, I definitely
appreciate it, but that's definitely why I didn't mind, because like, one,
it gives me practice to do it, but two, like

(02:02:50):
there's no pressure, Like it's not like I'm doing something
for zero or somebody like they're not gonna come back
and say anything. The man's ever played a game on
freaking district or broken mood, So what the hell does
he know? Uh No, it's yeah, I definite appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (02:03:04):
No, yeah, I did I just say the map wrong.
It was distriction.

Speaker 5 (02:03:07):
Uh recommend you're like lotus good pe Why he's like
got it anyway, he's confusing it with like he's on
district and he's like, where's terra former?

Speaker 4 (02:03:22):
Where the terra former?

Speaker 2 (02:03:23):
Yeah, but I hike.

Speaker 7 (02:03:26):
I was just grateful that, like you know, I I had,
I had a guy pulled through huge and just like
I'm like, just like looking back on everything, like I'm
just I'm incredibly thankful to be to be where I'm
at with everything that I got going on, like wife,
kid doing content. But I'm incredibly thankful that I get

(02:03:47):
to go that I'm as of right now should be
fully going on the for at least I'm gonna drive
that Sunday night.

Speaker 1 (02:03:54):
I'm just gonna drive through the night get there.

Speaker 7 (02:03:57):
Well, no Saturday night, like but Sunday and around like
one am probably gonna leave get there around like nine
a m. S. And then just be there for like
the full last day of Land and then, Uh, I'm
excited because it'll be like my first time, like meeting
everybody who I've been interacting with online for like five

(02:04:17):
years now.

Speaker 1 (02:04:18):
And the majority of my days.

Speaker 7 (02:04:20):
And so I'm I'm just I'm grateful, and uh, it
should be fun having Land kind up.

Speaker 1 (02:04:28):
You might have to crack him in a course light.

Speaker 2 (02:04:31):
There we go. I I love it.

Speaker 5 (02:04:35):
We're gonna we'll have an apok, the apix, the pod,
social posts of the boys, finally me, Bro.

Speaker 2 (02:04:41):
I know that's gonna go so hard. It's gonna be
ridiculously hard. The other thing, too, is Donnie loves making
a good list. I mean Donnie. He you asked Donnie
make a list of anything, He'll make one for you.
He loves making a good list. He loves it. Okay,
all round it out with h with my heart to
heart this week, Oh, I really hate to follow it

(02:05:04):
up with hockey, but playoffs are like two weeks away.

Speaker 4 (02:05:08):
Two weeks away.

Speaker 2 (02:05:09):
Bro, now here's the tough part. Mine's a little bit
tougher than than than Jumbas because I will be going
to Land with my fiance. She's a Dallas Stars fan.
I'm a Colorado Avalanche fan, and they are all but
locked to play each other in the playoffs. Now, we
have played each other before in the playoffs, and I

(02:05:29):
regret to say that I did get upset when they
beat us in Game seven, double overtime. And she tried
to text me and say like, oh, you know, you
guys fought hard, and I was just like you would
say that, And I just turned off my phone for
like an hour because I was so upset that we
lost to the Dallas Stars. So I gotta, you know,
I gotta, I gotta work on things moving forward. I

(02:05:51):
was also pretty pissed that at that time her team
would end up going to the Stanley Cup Final that
year in her first year watching hockey ever, that was
her first year caring about the sport. And I've been
sitting here for years, just like dying with every game,
and she's in the Stanley Cup. She's like, I was like, hey,
you guys made the Stanley Cup Final. Oh that's cool.

(02:06:11):
I'm like, okay, all right, Well, you don't even you
don't even love this, you don't even care about this,
but yeah, we're gonna we're gonna battle once again. The
thing is, she knows a lot more now than she
did before, and she knows how to push my buttons.
So if we're watching those games back at the Airbnb,
I'm gonna be in one. I'm gonna be in one
big time. And you know who's gonna love that the most,
Jay and Jumbo, They're gonna love watching.

Speaker 4 (02:06:33):
Oh yeah, because like why watch God? Like you can't.
You can't. I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (02:06:37):
Like I was fully on board to like Colorado was
my West team right now, because like I was in
there for you. But like the first time I meet
your fiance, like I know that you can take the grilling.
I can't sit there and be gloating for Colorado's scoring
when your fiance's meeting.

Speaker 4 (02:06:54):
Yeah, so I am.

Speaker 2 (02:06:55):
I totally understand her.

Speaker 4 (02:06:57):
Yeah, probably her.

Speaker 2 (02:06:59):
I totally get it too. And I'm gonna be in
one because Jay, even if she wasn't there, would be
going for Dallas because I think he just wants to
see the Avalanche crumble because he thinks that I jinked
the Cowboy. Well, he doesn't think I jinxed the Cowboys.

Speaker 5 (02:07:14):
No, you did.

Speaker 4 (02:07:14):
We're not gonna get.

Speaker 5 (02:07:15):
Into that I did not that is already too long.
We can't get into that.

Speaker 2 (02:07:20):
That's true, but I didn't hand up. I didn't, so
uh yeah, So that's where we're at. It's gonna be
it's gonna be a crazy week of hockey. We're gonna
have a good time and it's gonna be great. It's
gonna be it's gonna be a great time.

Speaker 5 (02:07:33):
We're literally gonna be watching like the Leafs game start
at like whatever seventy t is their time, and then
we're gonna be ripping the Dallas after ten.

Speaker 2 (02:07:43):
Not to mention that, I'm pretty sure super producer Troy
is coming and he's a huge Kings fan and he
has to sit there and watch them lose, to potentially
lose the Oilers again, and he doesn't want to do that.
So it's all of us. All of us are gonna
be in one, uh and it's gonna be exciting. And
then we have ales on top of that. So that's
my heart tart this week. I'm gonna be in one

(02:08:03):
when it comes to comes to New Orleans with hockey.
But it's gonna be a great time. Ladies and gents.
Once again, if you guys are going down to New Orleans,
don't be afraid to say what's up, say hello and
say hi to all the fellas because we're gonna be
down there chilling, having a great time. I will say,
if it's final Sunday and we're in the midst of
a game, might be a little bit tough, might be
a little bit tough of a time, But any other

(02:08:25):
time is great. Any other time is great. Ladies and gents.
We're so happy Pro League is back, so happy we
have something to talk about once again. It's been so
long since we've been able to talk about Pro League.
It has been such a long time. I'm so excited
it's back and we're gonna be running it for the
rest of the season, heading into the AL just open.
Thank you guys for tuning in. As always, we'll catch

(02:08:46):
you guys next week for another episode of the Apex
the podcast, Say y'all.

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