Episode 116: ALGS Pro League Day 2 Breakdown with Donny + H2H

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up everyone? Welcome back to another edition of the
Apex the Podcast, Ladies and Gentlemen. We are week two
in Pro League. It is in the books. We are
finished with week two and we're heading into a big
weekend coming up. Lots of different Pro League stuff going on.
We're gonna go through all the storylines and all of
that in just a moment. But I do have a

(00:22):
confession to make boys and girls. I am starting to
love the ALGs website. I actually I'm over I think
I overreacted last week. I actually think it's good. I
think it's good.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Jumpa, I listen. I think it will get better because
I believe in them, and I already saw that they've
added some cool updates and everything that I think it
will get better. The UI is terrible still, don't think
Yeah the UI.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Okay, here's the thing, but the UI is actually sometimes
in a weird way, so awkward that it actually isn't
awkward at all. How that's the point of getting.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm not understanding it.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
So in the at the top bar, there's two drop
down menus. You have to click the far left dropdown menu,
which will then you could change your region or and
then you have to change There's a there's a drop
down menu to the to the right of the far
left one which you click on to switch between Pro League,
the Open, Pro League Championship, Split two playoffs or Split

(01:16):
one playoffs from last year. I didn't even know those
are on here.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
And then once so like you go pro League, then
far left, you go Region. Then when you click that,
it doesn't change anything. You scroll down you might not
even see standings. After that, you have to go to
the far right. I gotta take it some whiplash to
go the way the far right, and then you can
see the fucking group avers be group avercy. And on
top of it all, the font is the same on

(01:41):
the entire page. Every single letter is in full caps,
and no matter what, it is the same. So when
you go to the like, you can't it's hard, actually
hard to read group avers be group aversy. You might
call me like and say, like, oh, you're being nitpicky.
No no, no, no, maybe I'm one of like the niche
people who spend tons of time on these websites. When
you're like spending so much time doing that, like yeah,

(02:03):
like it gets like tough to see. And then on
top of that, then like the buttons to click between
like POI draft match one, two, three, four, five, six,
All that stuff is like it all looks the same too,
like like it blends in before you used to have
distinct buttons where the games where those blend in because
they blend in with the background. You have like this
little white arrow or white box. That's about it.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, you know, I'm not even gonna try to like
argue my side.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
And then like why is there just like I like
it now at the top bar, then you have more
stuff that looks like a stock ticker tracker type thing,
and I don't even know that's the same thing as
the stuff on the right side.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
So what do you who knows? Maybe they put the
stock market ticker on this website. It'd be much more
useful at that point, it'd be. And then at that
point you know it's it's diversified, just like your portfolio.
If they put the stock market ticker on this way,
you say you like it?

Speaker 2 (02:56):
What do you like about it? Like this is cool though,
like the stuff you can have like incompetent. Yeah, the
look is better than don't get me wrong, I think
Battlefy didn't look that good. But I think battle was functional.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, the most functional in my opinion before they changed
it was Liquipedia. I never really used Battlefi. I was
I was a Liquipedia bro.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
And the media, like the Wikipedia updated slow because like
it's not like I didn't have like I think built
in automatically. I don't know, and then on top of
it updating slow. It also looked like shit.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah yeah, but yeah, you're.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Right, like the when they updated it so that this way,
especially when it's like they have like like for pro
League to have group A, it's just the first three days,
and like that doesn't make sense. Yeah, they referred to
the first three days of pro League as group A.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Or when they updated it, I stopped using it and
then I had to go to Battle five. But now
that the ALGs website is out, I just had a
quick five minute lesson with Donnie and he showed me
how to use it.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
You need a minute lesson, Like you did not need
a lesson for Battlefy.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
You didn't need a less for We could say that
that's a negative, but at the end of the day,
we could all learn a little bit more. Okay, we
could all learn a little bit more and at a
five minute lesson on anything could make you a much
better person at the end of the day. And that's
what I'm hanging my hat on.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
And then yeah, the only other thing is is like
what I miss and maybe this will come back, but
I miss that. Like when you saw the stats, it
would say like, Okay, this game team got seventy five points,
seventy tip points and their best placement was first. Now
we have HMS, which is your highest match score. Okay,
highest match score cool, but like I want to know

(04:29):
also their placement. I think at highest match score plus
basement because I think it's really cool to know, like,
hey they got second, but they had a twenty four
point game. That's crazy. Yeah that's pretty crazy. But then
kills totally fine. Kills need to be in there. I've
said this. I think I said this last week. Assists
are stupid. I'll say it every week until like it
gets removed. I'll tell the people when I go to
land again and I'm back there and I see the

(04:50):
UI and be like, guys, I still don't know why
we have assists. I think it makes no sense.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
I think what they should do is like the NHL does,
where you get primary assists and secondary assists, or they
do what soccer does and you only get primary assists
there is no secondary. Well that tells the story right there.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Sure, sure, But like the way that they're displaying assists
on this it says they got forty nine kills and
fifty four assists. Now, if you read that for yourself,
what does that assist stat tell you?

Speaker 3 (05:17):
What?

Speaker 2 (05:17):
What does that look? Especially when like the first three
things all like account to like their total points. When
you read the assists that, what does that tell you
they got fifty four assists? How many If you didn't
have kills there and you saw fifty four assists, how
many kills do you think they have?

Speaker 1 (05:31):
You would have no idea.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
You would have no idea. Assists don't matter. There could
be a two assists on one kill and it doesn't
make sense.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
You know what I think they should actually add in
is how many loop boxes they open, because that, to me,
I would find that interesting. If they replace this, you
know what, we'll start that moving right here on the
apex of podcast. Replace assists with loop boxes open? You
do that, I'm locked in, And honestly, I think that
adds another feather in the cap. Of the ALGs website
being better than all the other ones. I think I

(06:00):
think that would actually put it over the edge for me.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
I think he obviously has the most potential. Yeah, if
we're talking about the potential of like this, I would
call like maybe like would you would you call it
like the Connor Bodard of ALGs stats websites?

Speaker 1 (06:15):
I would probably call it? Okay, well, it's rough right now, right,
So what I would I know, I'm gonna sound like,
you know, a homer here. I'm gonna say Nathan McKinnon
because in his first three seasons he didn't really score
a lot of points, and then he had the potential,
the raw potential was there, it took him a while
to get there. Once he got there, then he was,
you know, the goat, and he's better than McDavid. So

(06:35):
that's what we have to get to for this website.
And we're almost there right now. So that's what I
would compare it to. You know what I'm saying? That
makes sense? Okay, all right? The only thing, like I said,
the only thing is they need to add in the
hey what's up Donnie argue for you know, three or

(06:57):
four minutes. So there you go that's uh. Typically that's
what Donnie does. I think he just listens to us
argue for a little bit there and that's where he is.
Uh okay, So I think we can move on from
that now. I just wanted to get that out of
the way. I'm becoming an advocate of the ALGs website.
I also like to give a good shout out jump
but you mentioned this earlier, Chris Pifer, I think is

(07:18):
how you say it. He's the guy on Twitter who
I don't know what exactly his role is, but he's
always tweeting out things that they're adjusting and changing for
the ALGs website. And he put out another tweet I
think it was like yesterday saying this morning released a
small update to the website, squashing a few bugs and
introducing a transactions list so fans can keep up with

(07:39):
the rosters, roles, and team name changes from Pro League
and ALGs. So they're getting better each and every day.
So shout out Chris for that. I appreciate that. And this,
like Jumba said, we have a ton of you know,
we have a ton of stock in this website. It's
going to get better as time goes on. So We're excited,
Chris league ops.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
They had of League Ops director sorry, and I had
director of the ee ops. That's what it says here.
Shout at them, shout out the leg ops guys in general.
Met a couple of guys at the Land and everything
like that. It's really cool, like when you get to
meet some of those guys and like cause they're oh
my gosh. I talked to this guy zach on On
on Twitter. His name's tab and I remember watching I

(08:19):
was on the bus watching back like when I want
at Land If anyone didn't know that, I want a
game at Land, and all of a sudden he's like, oh,
by the way, jump up shick game win was like
you saw that, like you were, oh yeah, you were
in there.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Because buddy, everybody saw that.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
No, I know. But the other thing was like there
was like I can't remember, was like someone in the
game was like named like ALGs, like not Observer because
he wasn't the observer. It's like ALGs like ref one
or something like that, and it was that guy was like,
oh was that you? Because we were chatting back and forth,
I had no idea who it was. Behind the scenes.
That was funny. And then also to those guys, it's
like the way they calm out, not the not the

(08:55):
lee ops guys, but the observers, the way they come out.
Did I tell this story back at about like how
me and Jay were editing videos and we had like
their little radio next to us, and it's like it's
this giant radio with a bunch of knobs and dials.
I didn't touch it. I didn't want to break anything.
But we can hear all the observers and like, literally, go,
I got double Craiger on me, I got double Craiger
on me. Switch to us, I got double craber. Switch back,

(09:18):
switch back, switch back. It's like that's literally you how
they're calming back there, back and forth because they had
two guys krabering off with each other and it was
absolutely electric.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
That's badass. Yeah, that's badass. That's huge. Shout out to
the ALGs League ops guys, Shout out to Chris, Shout
out to the website. It's grown on me. I'm starting
to love it. I'm starting to love it.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Boys.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Let's move into Pro League. This week, it was one
hell of a week for one particular team and one
team that people had counted out, probably shouldn't have. Team
Falcons wins Pro League Day two in the America's Region
and they bawled out. We'll get to all their stats
in just a moment. Second place was Vertice Pro. Third

(09:59):
place was Stallion lagging. Don't say that shit out loud, okay,
because Lou might come through. My fucking you might come
into the studio right now. Not you not mention that
your lag lagging. Okay, don't mention it, please, I'm just
making I'm making sure Lou's not gonna walk in. You

(10:23):
gotta put that equipment. We gotta put the clip. People
know what we're talking about. And then fourth place was LG.
Let's kick it off here with Falcons. Falcons Imperial how
went absolutely insane. If you look through their day, hal
had twenty eight kills with eight thousand damage, zero with
twelve Waltz with nine kills. On the day, Falcons was

(10:45):
popping off. They were going through basically what felt like
exercising their demons. From day one. They were flying at everybody.
There were probably opportunities where they could have held back
and won a game or two, but I think they
just wanted to just fly at anything and everything. That
had a pulse get some kills, and that's exactly what
they did. Donald throw it to you first. What did

(11:06):
you see from Falcons that what impress you the most
about this this win on day number two?

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Well, I think when we've talked about these top teams
in the past, I think we've always seen that from
game to game there's at least some sort of level
of consistency where like their quote unquote worst games are
still generally better than a lot of other teams, which
just helps them add up more points. So even if
they're not winning you know, two to three games in
a set, they're still getting you know, six, seven, eight

(11:34):
points every single time they go out there, so it
helps kind of stack you up for when you get
that big game that they usually can generate in these
kind of settings. It allows them just to add up
those points they and they absolutely just fly through the
rest of the day. I believe when I looked through it,
they only had one game where they had less than
nine points, when they had a three point game, which
was their worst game, and then I believe they had

(11:55):
like two nine point games, a twenty point game, and
a twenty four point game. So like you just add
up where that have that level consistency where you're just
stacking up points even at your worst, when you have
those pop off games like we know they can have,
you know, it just adds up to a day like this.
And the one thing I wanted to throw back to
last week where I mentioned that they had the negative

(12:17):
plus minus and damage, I was curious to see when
they did do well, what that number would look like.
It was almost it was basically plus five thousand, whereas
last week they're about negative one thousand if I remember correctly,
So it is I think that definitely will translate for
a lot of teams that perform well, that they'll have
that positive damage output, and especially for Falcons that number.

(12:37):
I mean, that number could be as high as it
wants to be for a team like that. So overall,
I think they just fought a lot better this week,
and I think overall just the vibes ended up playing
out a lot better because they didn't even necessarily have
like a crazy good start, but you could just tell,
like that level consistency was there a lot more throughout.
So I think this is what we obviously can come
to expect with them. But again there's still gonna be

(13:00):
pins at times, but for this week at least, they
definitely haste it.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, this is one of those weeks where when you
look at Falcons and we know that they can have
weeks where they struggle, in weeks where they don't look
like they're at their best, but the raw talent is
always going to be there, and in certain moments, especially
in their team fighting, you can tell that it kind
of pulls through and it really helps them out. And
I think it's always good for a team to kind

(13:25):
of get their bad weeks out of the way early too.
I think they worked through some things, they saw what
they needed to fix, and they came back and they
fixed a big time. So shout out to Falcons forgetting
that win. A lot of people were counting out a
little bit too early. Jumpy, you had something, of.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Course, of course, I just wanted to like quickly throw
out here. After the first week of Pro League, I
made a post just on my YouTube talking about the standings.
I said, like, you know, they returned our dupe and
skittles back one hundred t you get second. I finished
it off with how many people are going to try
to tell me Falcons suck? After day one. But funny enough,
funny enough, not that many dead wanted to shout out

(14:00):
and say, uh oop foop three two one nine said
falcons actually suck. Hahaha, you suck house to hank three
eight nine six said common falcons l common common h
L for house a hank three eight ninety six. Uh.
Cason Doctors said, I feel one hundred T is the
most consistently high placing team, while Falcons have ups and

(14:21):
downs where they lose by a bit or win by
a lot base take. Actually not calling that guy out.
I got nothing to say able one hundred T thing
because we haven't really seen much of them very much
like at this point, like they've played they didn't even
play this past weekend, right, so like we were one
week of the Yeah, but uh but then kind of
based take, you know, considering Falcons like got third or
twentieth or first or second or whatever. So anyway, so yeah,

(14:44):
we'll see, we'll see how that actually pans out. Thought
that was pretty funny. Uh but yeah, I mean I
kind of said, like in that moment last week when
we're talking about Falcons, I'm like, either making me eat
my words right now as they're winning fucking scrimsh because
I know I talked about them, like, you know, just
with the cop issues being confused. The cool thing was
is like they just put Hall on a character that
he could be more aggressive on. That's stuff I was

(15:06):
talking about where it's like when Hal was like on
Newcastle and he's like forced to anchor. That's just not
how So they put Waltz on those kind of characters
Crypto Newcastle while the other two can do what they want.
And there you go. They came out first. We'll see
what the rest of the week's hold. I don't think
they played before the Open though, Actually do we even

(15:27):
have Yeah, yeah, we have one more day before the Open, right,
the Sunday we play.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Yeah, we play this Sunday and then that'll be it.
So but yeah, they've played there two days.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, so they don't play until after the Open. So
we'll see them at the Open next Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
So that was your last action seeing them in Pro League,
at least for now until we get back home from
the Open. Let's move into the second team here. It
was Vernus Pro and we got the full VP experience.
We had some really great games and then it was
followed by some games where they legitimately could have captured
this day so easily, and they kind of just fun

(16:00):
which sucks. It was unfortunate because watching them when they
were doing great, they had a lot of good things
going for them. Obviously, they got a lot of zones,
so that's always going to help you out. But they
still had to play the zones, and they played them correctly.
They played them very well, and they even played them
with a little bit of lack. I don't want to
say that too much because I don't want lou to
come through my door and to plex me. But they

(16:20):
did really well, and I'm very excited to see what
VP was doing now. I did. I was messaging Spider
Tip before the day had started, and I gave her
one of the best takes and also one of the
worst takes of all time. She had asked me, like,
what's a hot take for the day. I said that
that a unsigned team was going to win the day
if you look at the bottom of this list. Literally

(16:41):
I think almost every single unsigned team is at the
bottom of the leader board. But she said, what's the
team you're looking for? And I said, I'm looking at VP,
and I'm looking at complexity. I mostly mentioned complexity because
as like my squad, but I mentioned VP because I
was saying, who are we going to get today, because
we know they can be one of the best teams
in the lobby or they can really struggle heavy out

(17:01):
of the gate. They ended up looking like one of
the best teams in the lobby, at least through like
the first four games of this six game set, so
it was looking good for VP. I think Zach was
making the correct calls. Obviously, once again, you get zones,
but we've watched a lot of teams get zones and
not be able to pull through. They were able to
get back to back wins on the Broken Moon, and
they did it from some really good spots setting up

(17:23):
holding down those areas, and it was good. It was
good all the way around from VP. Donald throw it
back down to you. Anything in particularly you wanted to
highlight from vertis pro, Yeah, just.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
A couple things. Is kind of that you just pointed
out the VP experience. I looked it up real quick,
and I believe if my math is right, they scored
fifty nine of their sixty eight points in three of
their games, and then it had nine points in the
other three, So I think again, that is pretty much
the VP experience that will probably mostly get because again,
when they're at their best, I mean we've seen Zach

(17:55):
with Cloud nine back in the day get second at
a online Champ event with Cloud nine, like I said,
and then again we've seen unfortunately where they've missed a
land at some point. So it's they definitely the talent
is there. It's just like you said, what version shows
up that particular week and can they eventually find that
level consistency to where they can you know, really content

(18:16):
as a top team in the world, because we saw,
you know, they were very close to making a huge
run there towards the end of Champs. You know, they
had a really big game at the last game to
vault up to fifth place, I believe is where they
ended up at. So the talent's there, the village is there,
the experience is there. My other point, basically, just with
defending zone polls to your your POI, a lot of

(18:38):
times you'll get pressured early and often and throughout the
entire game to hold a power position. Where they ended
up where they ended up playing, Obviously it was one
of the better spots since it was at their POI
so yes, it's great to be gifted zones, but it's
also can be a curse at the same time, because
you could have multiple teams want to push you off
your spot, and you really have to be locked in
the entire time, holding angles, keeping teams from overly trying

(19:00):
to push you, and kind of shepherd them away and
push other teams in less advantageous spots. So definitely, overall,
really good job for them this week. You'll always will
take a second place like that, stacking up twenty one
points towards the overall standings. And yeah, just really good
work for them this week. And yeah, just don't mention
lag for the love of God, because we don't need

(19:20):
to see any murders on screen.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
So yeah, speaking to that, I think we should throw
in the clip right now. I don't know why me
and Jimba thought this was so funny when we were
doing the VOD review on this, but we thought this
was the funniest thing in the world. Let's throw in
the clip of a slayer lagging and lou handling it
the best that he could.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
I mean, you guys can kill this scene below you
you play FEUs.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Down there, bro.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, yeah, if you play on me, but I really
don't like it. I don't like any of the angles
at all, Slayer because of this building.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
But this building's not gonna be in a fill on.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
It's bottom left that you guys have to kill Bro
with bottom left. Die.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
I'm not get Internet. You're not getting I just see
the blue rigger green.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
You have to tell us that I will. I was screaming,
don't talk about the line. Just fucking this guy's keeping
over here.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
They're gonna play this right here, so okay, Like Zach.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Said, Bro, I don't have to read on a.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Layer.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
I know, but don't talk about it, please.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Am I come from my bottom floor?

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Guys, I think they're gonna come from my bottom floor,
so listen. It's not a lot, but I does. It
really is funny to me.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
He doesn't really say anything that bad, but like you
were wad reviewing it, and then I was doing something
different while listening to the VOD review and then I
was just like, wait, why was he Like why is
he getting so mad? Like no, no, don't Slayer, Like like,
I feel like that's a good thing to know. They're like, hey,
we look at these guys here, look at these guys
here and Slayers like I can't I'm lagging. He's like, Slayer,

(20:48):
you're gonna piss me off. He doesn't say that. Still
don't piss me off.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
I don't wish you guys to know that we could
have started this podcast about fifteen minutes or so earlier
if they weren't looking for this clip.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
They were dedicated to find the Well.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
Shout out to these guys, because I I've rarely seen
the dedication to find a clip as much as we
spent watching that it was.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
We watched it like three times back when we first
found it was the problem.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
You also have to like realize that helped, because if
I didn't watch that clip back, I would have come
on and been like, yeah, Lou turns the Slayer and
says something like so, what the fuck, don't talk about
the lag man, Like That's how I remember it was
not like that. That's how I remember it.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
For some reason, I players talking about I wish that
would have happened. I wish you would have screamed at
him at the top of his lungs now Here's the
thing we got to go through and figure out the
reasoning why Lou was so against him something that's a
mental thing. Do you think it's like, let's not let
these external factors in an online video game affect us.

(21:50):
Should we like like try to stay locked in even
though one of our players is I think even Zach
was lagging.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Maybe maybe maybe time in the past, like Slayer was lagging,
and Lou's just trying to focus to like get what's done,
and he knows he's lagging. The Slayer didn't stop saying it,
so maybe Lou is basically like, okay, acknowledged, shut up,
like yeah anymore.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
You can hear the pure annoyance in his voice though
the second time Slayer brought it up, Like the second time,
you're like, okay, he's should have brought it up, shouldn't
have brought it, brought it up. It's one of those
I think we've all been in that situation where you're
in a tough spot and maybe somebody you know, friend,
family member, is annoyed with you, but you feel like
you got to bring it up again, like and then
you do and it just turns into something. Luckily, it

(22:32):
didn't turn it into anything. It turned into a win
actually for them, And I believe Lou does lag in
the final fight, he like gets stuck on the stairs
and then I think, yeah, yeah, and god he didn't
bring it back. But there was another moment too later
on where like Slayer wasn't talking very loud or like

(22:54):
Lou thought that Slayer was talking to him, but he wasn't.
So then Lou he's like, you're starting to piss me
the off, like he's just getting mad. But it was
like in the Teammate Mad section, you're just trying to
get the coms right.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
There's a team at Land. I want to say it
was Guild. Yeah, I think it was Guild. Like phony
to Jesco and like Jesco's saying something that those microphones
kind of suck at Land. So it could just be
like the microphone was a little bit too far out
and you can't hear them. But like like Jessco says
something and then Legacy goes, I can't hear. You can't

(23:27):
hear what you're saying. Phone is just like, yeah, man,
you're mumblet your words. You gotta speak fucking properly. He
doesn't say it exactly like that I'm doing exactly when
I just would have done to loot. But it felt
like that.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, it was so funny that clip. I watched it
three times. I just want to know why he doesn't
want to hear about this. He just does not want
to know about that. Lag should never exist and lose mind.
Just don't even speak about it. Shout out VP. It
was a great time watching them, and honestly, their coms
are so interesting to listen to because the way Zach talks,

(23:58):
I don't know why, it just peaks my interest. He's
saying anything and everything at all times, which I guess
is what you need to be doing. And uh, but
not all teams are like that. Like Zach, he's calling
out which team it is. Sometimes he's wrong about it,
but it doesn't matter. He's just calling out what he
thinks it is. He's just saying anything everything, and it's
fun to listen to. There's there's never a dull moment

(24:18):
in the VP comms.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
A lot of people like always talk about sweet and
like how he's very much like can be that guy
that will be like, Okay, we're gonna go do this,
We're gonna go to this spot, we're gonna do that,
We're gonna do that, and then we're gonna like we're
gonna win the game and like it kind of unfolds.
But like Zach is very similar, and I don't think
a lot of people will see it. I don't think
it's a lot of credit for that, but he's very similar.
Like it's he has like like there's like igls like

(24:44):
Zero or Hal who just give like your macro plan
have some like sort of like micro stuff, but they
expect you to fill the gaps. And there's people like
Sweet or Zach who can like get really into his
fine details. Zach I find kind of like does a
little bit of both, but he definitely has that and
like you're right, like you're pointing right now, and like
a lot of people, I think overlook it, but it's
always interesting to hear what you say. I also appreciate

(25:06):
socks comms because he always sounds like he is in
a full panic with things he says. And that is
exactly how I play the game. And I kind of
get flak from it from you guys, and like I'm like,
but like I just play the game like that.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
I'm sorry, No, I think he is in a full
panic because whenever you see him win, like when we
saw him win games at the LA land. He wasn't happy,
He wasn't overjoyed. He was it was full on relief, like,
thank god, it wasn't it wasn't Happyess, he's just leaning back,
he's going back to his shared just thank god we

(25:40):
finally finished that.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
I will say, just to make sure we're not pity
of the wrong picture for some people that maybe don't
necessarily watch. There was a couple of moments, especially when
those games that they won, that there's a couple of
times where the coms are definitely getting flooded from lou
and Slayer just trying to share information like most people
always do his teammates, and I think he did a
really good job of settling them down, Like, yes, maybe
the tone might have sounded a little bit panicky, but

(26:02):
at least with what he was saying, he was like, guys, chill,
we're good, this is what we're doing, this is what's
going on. Yes, for the most part, he definitely has
that kind of like tense energy, but I think a
lot of that comes from that Micrean style, when you're
just saying a lot really fast and trying to get
a bunch of information out very quickly. I think that's
the big part of like why it sounds so panicky,

(26:24):
because I do agree that definitely happens quite a bit.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
But oh yeah, that's he sounds.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
He is.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Like like I'm just saying he sounds like it's even
like me, like I'm not panicked. Yeah, yeah, calming like that.
And I used to explain to the work for urgency.
I realized there's some moments I do it maybe when
urgency isn't needed, but nonetheless, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
But I think it's just all about like that teammate dynamic, right,
like lou and Slayer, Like they've played long enough with
him to know like this is how like it's gonna sound,
this is how it's gonna come from. This is what
he wants to do. Yes, he's gonna say a lot,
but it has an intention of leading to a specific point,
so it is. Yeah, it's a very interesting style to
watch because, like you said, a very mirrord suite with

(27:04):
how he has and igaled his teams versus other igls
out there. So it's definitely a lot of fun to watch. Again,
when it works, it's awesome to watch because there's so
much information that could get communicated very quickly, and when
you execute it is just picture perfect to watch a
team be able to micro their way into the best
spot in the game or to win a game. So

(27:26):
definitely shout out to Zach though definitely a good week
for him for sure.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
I also want to talk about Lou real quick, because
Lou I've followed for a long time on obviously Lan Animals,
when I first really started getting into ALGs and then
when he went over to Complexity, big fan of Lou,
and I even said, I thought, I don't know if
I said it on pod or if I was just
talking to Jay off offline or something like that, where
I said that I felt like Lou was one of

(27:51):
the most underrated players in Pro league because his ability
to get kills in pivotal moments but also be able
to help out with comms and also help out with
the igling. I think it's like second to none. And
he does the same thing with VP. When he's with Zach,
they are both talking so much, giving information back and forth.
They both kind of like like you said, don they

(28:13):
know how they speak. They know each other very well,
so there's no you know, like there's not a whole
lot of flak with both of them. They're just kind
of trying to reach the same goal, and when you
sit there and listen to it, it's very impressive and
it's fun to watch, and putting them both together on
the same team, it's funny. They talk so much that

(28:34):
you feel like Slayers not talking a whole lot at all.
You could says he's a little on the quieter side,
but he's speaking a lot too. It's just those two
are just very dominant in the way that they calm
things out and they're bouncing ideas off of one another.
And so I'd like to shout out Lou for that too,
because I think what he brings to a team is
that value. He did the same thing with Complexity, and

(28:54):
he was the IGL for l Animals, So when he
gave it a go and they only missed that land,
I think by a couple points, you know. I think
that was one of those times where you can look
at Lou and say, if there was ever a guy
who could really fit into that hybrid igo role, if
you desperately needed something, I think you could grab Lou
and be very settled with a good team comp if

(29:16):
he ever decided to go and be like, hey, I
want to full igl because he's got the skills to
do it. He definitely has the skills to do it,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
And I do wanted to give just a quick shout
out to Slayer because I think obviously when he was
with LG at first, he was the punchline of a
lot of jokes. A lot of people said he was
the reason for them not having the success success that
a lot of people thought they would when they came together.
And I think he's definitely grown a lot as a player,
has very very much settled into this roster and again

(29:46):
for a roster that place in the top five in
the world. So I mean, I think there's a lot
of credit that needs to go throw in his way
as well for raising his game and kind of bringing
a consistent level of play that you can expect from
him that allows Lou and Zach to do what they
do with Zach Igelli in and helping Blu with fragging
or refragging or whatever the situation is. So definitely big

(30:06):
shout out to him, And just want to make sure
that God mentioned too.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, for sure. Let's move on into the third team here.
It was Team Stallions and after a tough first week,
they bounce back and get themselves a big second week
third place. Going through the list right here, we've got
Crook with seven kills, Enemy with nine, and Albertlelli with twelve. Really,
all I wish I could see is how many enemies
they pinged. We're missing that from this status list, and

(30:30):
I would love to see that in the future, or
maybe loop boxes open whatever. I need to see something
like that in the future. Chris Let's work on that, please,
I'd love to see it. No, Stallius, it was an
awesome week for them. It was good all the way around.
They got themselves a big win. I believe it was.
I don't remember exactly what game it was. When I
tried to go back and watch the VODs, for whatever reason,

(30:53):
the game that they won was lagged out and I
couldn't watch it. Like every time you try to watch
that that full game, it would just like give you
three seconds go screen, go to black, three seconds screen
go to black. So I couldn't really get to sit
down and like fully see what happened in that game.
But Stallions bounces back in a big way and Donald

(31:13):
throw it down to you first. It really feels like
this team is starting to come together in a big
way to where they could have one of those arcs,
similar to like a Cloud nine where when Saucer, Chaotic
and Noughty first came together, it was kind of looked like,
as you know, like a patchwork team wasn't really going
to do anything, and then all of a sudden you
fast forward to now and they're like kind of a

(31:33):
mainstay in Pro League and lands. You could look at
this and I'm jumping the gun, I'm way out in
front of it. But the way that they have put
this team together and the way things are starting to
come together for them. You look at Scrims, they were
already doing really well in Scrims. They had a bad
first day, but they bounced back big in the second day.
This could be the same trajectory that Stallions is on.

(31:55):
So what are you seeing from Stallions right now? And
do you think that that assessment is a little too
far or do you think that you could see the
exact same thing.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
No, I definitely think we can see the exact same
thing because I think you look at this roster and
it's one that that's got plenty of experience now right
Like alb obviously has been there, done that. In terms
of competitive apex, Enemy has only gained more and more
experience with every stop that he's been obviously with starting
off with Oxygen, going to DSG Complexity for Split, and

(32:25):
now coming over to Stallions and then Crook. You know,
again he's even had the previous Land experience and then
was able to make it back this pass Land and
now again he's really settled in with Alb because there
was I believe I mentioned at first that Album may
separate from Krook, but they decided to stay together and
they ended up picking up Enemy before the split, which
I thought was a really good decision because I thought
they pair very well together, very like Yin and Yang.

(32:48):
I believe with how they play, because I think Alb
tends to obviously play a little bit more on the
aggressive side and tries to look for openings, and Crook
definitely does very well with like the macro and like
the igling, getting them into good spots. So I think
they're just a really good match together. And then again
Enemy kind of provides that stability as the third third
player in the team, has some versatility to play some

(33:08):
different characters. I think the interesting thing for me this
week was seeing Albs start on Newcastle for a couple
of games, then switch to Ash and then switch to Wraith.
I thought it was a really interesting dynamic and having
a guy like Alb where you kind of normally think
they would always be on like Ash or Wraith. He
steps back into that Newcastle world. It kind of allow
Krook to igl from the Ash I believe is what

(33:31):
he was playing the first couple of games, which it
obviously is a lot easier to call macro get yourself
into spots on a character like that because you're able
to port where you want to go, or able to
scout around and dash and get where you need to go.
So I thought it was really interesting to see that.
I think it just shows Alb's versatility in this game
and has been able to play a lot of different
characters throughout his career and excel at those characters as well.

(33:51):
So it's a great dynamic to see again. It's great
to see the result again. It was game five where
they had a banger game, getting twenty one points set
them up to have the day that they had, so
they definitely finished off strong there and yeah, I'm just
really excited to see what more they can bring, because again,
I think that's a roster that can only improve as
time goes on. I just think their X factor is

(34:13):
always could be Enemy and how he plays. I think
if he continues to provide that stability to allow Crook
Andal do what they do, kind of again what Slayer's
doing with VP right now, and a lot of what
a lot of what other good anchors or backline players
can do. I think they can definitely be a team
that works their way at the ladder and potentially could
make a little bit noise at a land.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah, when I was watching through stallions and like the
games I did get to see when I was going
back and watching the VODs, the one thing I noticed
that stood out the most about this team was number one. Donnie,
what you said where Albert's kind of flexing into different
roles and number one, I think that that's kind of
crazy because for so long we've seen players kind of
stuck inside a role for the most part. But I

(34:57):
do like that they're able to switch it up and
it works for works really well. The second thing that
came to mind when I was watching was Enemy seems
at ease and when you go back and look through
the last two rosters he was on. You have the
DSG one where I think he has a good relationship
with those guys, or at least when it started, had
a good relationship with those guys, but towards the end

(35:18):
it really soured and it felt like there was a
lot of I don't know, I would say nervous energy
surrounding Enemy because you don't want to be the guy
to make that mistake, because you were the guy theoretically
who had made the mistake before, right, and you didn't
want to be that guy again. So there was a
lot of that nervousness. Then you go to complexity and

(35:39):
that one I'm not really gonna fault anybody for because
that's just you know you're going to champ. You go
to a new roster. He hadn't been with them as
long as DSG, and it wasn't like that long of
a time. You also don't know what's going to happen afterwards.
This version of Enemy seems much more relaxed, much more calm.
He's in the calms when they're talking and going through
their progressions on what they want want to do, when

(36:01):
they're making rotations, different stuff like that. You're hearing, at
least what it sounds like to me is a much
more confident version of Enemy, and that is only going
to bode well for team Stallions. Like that's overall, like
you talk about him being the X factor, a confident
Enemy is dangerous, very very dangerous, especially mixed together with

(36:23):
these two guys. So for them to get this third place,
I think that adds to the confidence and I think
he can finally kind of turn the page on the nervousness,
on the lack of confidence, and he can start to
feel justified in the player that he is, because we've
always known him to be that good of a player.
It just had to be in the right situation. And
those two situations he was in before they just had

(36:46):
their own different issues that came with it. And right
now I feel like he's really hitting his stride. So
it's cool to see. Those are the biggest two things
I noticed from Stallions and seeing Enemy in the spot.
It's awesome to watch.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
And I'll say a quick point too, when it came
to his complexity stuff, is that he filled in that
role that Lou was playing right where it's kind of
trying to be the guy that gets the damage that
opens some things along with Monsoon, whereas that wasn't what
he was His jobs were on previous rosters, so like
he was trying to adjust to a little bit of
a different role fit where he's slide in during three
B threes and that always can mess with somebody, right,

(37:18):
and it takes time to like do that. Obviously, all
these players in this game, for the most part, can
definitely play different roles in fights, right, Like you have
to figure to be one of the better teams in
the world. But when your primary job is not necessarily
the fragger or a refragger, and then you're kind of
slip into that role and a lot of that responsibility
is put on you, that is tough, you know, because obviously,

(37:39):
like kim Chi is very much like was the anchor
and a backline player for them. So Monsoon expected an
enemy to be with him to frag and refrag when
it came to opening fights. So he slides out to
the Stallions roster where he's got out that's going to
help open up fights. He's got Krok who's playing on
more aggressive characters. Since that's kind of like how things
are right now, where these ig instead of maybe being

(38:01):
on like a gibbee or something in the past. They're
on these ashes, they're on the race, they're on the ballistics,
you know, the characters that are either going to help
open a fight or they're going to refrag into a fight.
Whereas enemy can now come in where he's used to
kind of being that third person into some fights. And
I think that's just a lot more of a comfortable
spot for him. So yeah, like you said, I think
he's just a lot more at ease. And I think

(38:21):
you definitely noticed it so.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Far now, jum. But if I had if you had
to take a wild guess on if this team gets
signed and what org they would go to, would you
have any guess whatsoever? Would you would you have any
inkling thought anything like that? Do you think right now? Currently?

Speaker 2 (38:38):
I know? I said nom, uh, you know who are
some some some orgs that aren't an APEX right now,
there's uh a couple of Brazilian orgs like LOUD. I
don't know if they're gonna come. I'm gonna go left
field and say twisted minds.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Okay, that's a good one. I think that's a good guess.
I think that's a good guest.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
Thought, I will say too, that leads a little bit
more into that because he didn't mention on his stream
that their colors are not like a normal like red
or black or something like that, and twisted minds. We
remember the jerseys which people might be divisive on that.
I thought they were sick at EWC, which is like
the light blue with the pink.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Yeah, I thought it was good. Some people didn't like it.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
I thought it was a pretty solid one, So yeah,
I mean, I think the pubble pieces definitely lead to that,
you know, definite wouldn't be shocked if that's what it
ends up being.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
But be crazy if that actually comes true. Honestly, if
you're listening to the show and that comes true, because
that's a crazy prediction, right, If that comes true, I
feel like you have to share this show with every
single person you know, even if they don't care about
APEX whatsoever. I feel like is your obligation as a
listener to do that if it comes true.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Share with your mom, your dad, you're great, your grandpa,
your sister, brother, you're one year old toddler sibling, like,
share it with your friends at school, your friends at work,
Share it with Wyatt.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Your pets, you know you might as well.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah, show send us pictures in the Discord link in
the description of your pets watching the Apex spot.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Yeah. And I would also like to just say that Jumba,
typically you're pretty bad at predictions, so it's probably not
going to come true.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Probably not.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
But if you get this, absolutely incredible and that can
lead to a lot of good mojo moving forward.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
I think the Leaves won the cup. Anyways, we won't
talk hockey yet.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
We'll wait on that. We'll wait on that. The final
squad in the top four, let's talk about l G
LG gets the top four, that Shoeby, Naughty and Saucer.
They go through and they have themselves to day. I
don't really want to go through and talk specifically about
each individual game, but I do want to talk about
an individual player. I feel like Shoeby is quietly becoming

(41:05):
one of the best players that this league has to offer,
listening to their comms, watching the way he plays the
different roles he conflects into. I talked to Donnie about
Shoeby for like thirty five minutes after the games were over,
because I was so impressed with what this guy can do.
It's absolutely insane. There's a game where they're playing on
the fingers on what what is that POI was it

(41:27):
a launchpad.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Launchpad or north pad only ones with fingers.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Launch pad, So they're playing on launchpad. They eventually win
the game. You're talking about a guy who everybody was
talking about being one of the greatest newcastles in the game.
He's playing Wraith. He has the Peacekeeper and he enters
with two huge hundred bangers with the Peacekeeper to get
them the win, to at least open up for them
to get the win. That's the type of guy. He

(41:53):
can go play the Newcastle if you need him to.
He can go frag if you need him to. And
the one underrated part about Shoeby's game and what he
brings to LG his way to keep Calm's calm and
not flooded open and also to make sure that Naughty
and Saucer kind of keep themselves in check. Shueby's the

(42:16):
guy for that. I mean he's always in there being
like we need a relax, we need to relax. He's
got a calming sense of just or like he's not
trying to rush anything. He wants them to just relax,
stay in their present mind, and he does a great
job at it. I mean, I think Shueby is just right.
He is. I don't think he gets talked about enough.
And I say that you hear all the time, nice

(42:40):
Wig talking about him. You hear all the time, you know,
you see these different clips that pop up on Twitter
of him doing incredible things.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
I talked about him, like I know, I joke all
this suff the time, but like I land, like I
brought up C nine for the purpose of Shoeby because
there's newcast will give him and brought brought up I
brought up C nine because of Shoeby's Newcastle. But like
you said, the versatility that like you know, he pops
on the wraith you know, back and you'd be played
with madness and everything like that. I think he was
around a time where like he was even like the
number one pread and that's where like he was making

(43:06):
some waves there and was really growing like his actual
personality and brand in the community on top of like
fragging out with madness on all his teams. Right then
he switches a CNI and he picks up you know,
character completely different like Newcastle, and he's out here, like
you said, doing it with the best, like you know,
and uh, I think he'll continue to you have one

(43:27):
conversation with Shuby and everything you said about like how
he's like the calming voice on the team, you'll you'll
know that. And I don't even mean like he doesn't
need to tell you like, oh yeah, this is how
I keep calm. Like he's just a chill dude, like
you talked to him like, oh, I see, that's just
his personality type, right, Like he doesn't seem like the
kind of guy to get worked up by too much stuff.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
So yeah, the only time I've ever seen him like
kind of go insane was that one win at La
Land where you know they it was with Zach Maser.
They and then they just pop off and you can
see the excitement, like you could see like that was
a game where he felt like everything had been put
together and they were rock stars in that game and

(44:07):
you saw the emotion from that. But that's what he is.
I mean, we've had him on the show very very
early into like his career, and I don't know if
we were on YouTube yet at the time, but we
did talk to him and he was very calm then
as well, and then you kind of see it in
just the way that he plays. And I saw a
play from him in Scrims that was absolutely insane by

(44:27):
himself on Broken Moon, like basically gets his team. I
think one or two kp completely loan on the newcastles
like that's what he can do. He's a playmaker, but
at the same time he can anchor, and then at
the same time he's helping out in the comms, making
sure everything's loud and clear, the direction of what the
team wants to do is there. It's all there with Shooby,

(44:49):
and he's incredibly underrated still, even though people talk about
him a lot, I still think he's underrated. I still
don't think people talk about what he brings to the
team enough. He's awesome man. Thing I have for LG.
I don't know if you guys have anything else, but
I just wanted to bring him up because he's a
very special talent.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
The only thing I wanted to talk about still when
it came to Pro League, if we're ready for this,
is just to cover Nave. I think we're waiting too
long here to talk a little bit about Novve over
at em EA.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
You want to get into the new podcast called the
E M E APEX the AX.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
If you want about the PEX. So like if I
just click one drop menu to second drop menu and
then go to the far right and click the second
drop menu. Uh, and I scrolled down. NAVE had a
fifty eight point lead in first place to win the
day over there, thatch fucking one hundred and nine points

(45:47):
in six games? Is that good? I don't know. Second
place had fifty one points. Their lead was bigger than
the total amount of points to the second place team.
Had you Choco or Usaco dropped thirty one kill that
is more kills than eighteen teams, It.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Was only team that had who was the only team
that had more than that?

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Go Next, which was the previous ORG. But yeah, Go
Next or Go Next and seventy five percent British both
Go Next had thirty four seventy five percent British had
no seventy percent British had thirty. So other than that,
every other team outside themselves and Go Next former ORG,

(46:30):
who was also formerly NOBBY that's confusing to keep track of,
dropped less than thirty one kills, which.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Yeah, I mean, that's the one thing that I think
we talked so much about NA but looking over across
the world, remember when Go Next first or this squad
I should say first Novi formerly Gobby. Yeah, when the
new Novice squad when they first won, people were upset.
They were like, this is a team that has never performed.

(46:59):
They you know, they've gotten the finals lobbies, but they
didn't do well in them. And all of a sudden,
this team wins at the biggest land. People were expecting
the big name. She had Sweet in the final lobby.
He was on match point. I'm sure a lot of
people wanted to see Sweet finally get that victory. It
kind of was, at least for us in the building,
I'm not gonna lie to you, And I told them
when I talked to them, hi Arca and Yusako when

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we had them on the show, like you could feel
it wasn't as insane like you can kind of just
feel like people were like, Okay, who are these guys.
They're making it known now, and if you're trying to
tell me that those comments after everything was over didn't
go into the back of their minds a little bit
light fires.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Absolutely, they got on top of just winning and getting
that confidence buff Bro. Like you know, they got fourth
in their first week and then dropped one of the
biggest days in pro league the history. Four wins out
of six games I can think of, like in Pro league,
not counting Land because Archer did a split one playoffs Land.

(48:02):
I might be mistaken. I don't think it happened in
year four. Maybe I'm wrong, but the last time I remember,
it was like year two was aled was Optic. I
think I think they were still fucking ECA a ESA.
I don't even know if they'd been picked up by
Optic yet, but they won four games in a set
and dropped like one hundred and twenty points, like so yeah,

(48:23):
crazy crazy shit over by Nove like you said, proving
the you know, the people out here that they're they're
here to stick around. They're here to stick around. I
believe that means that they're done there pro league days now.
So we'll have to see, you know, once they get
on the big stage in Land, eyes are going to
be on them, undoubtedly. Can they continue cooking? Can they

(48:47):
continue the it's.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Not just that too. I think the one thing when
the new Navy squad had one in Sapporo when we
were kind of going through all the ways that this
could be a good thing. The one part of it
that people brought up was, well, we've had the same
you know, kind of big fish at the top of
the food chain for a long time. Maybe they can
come in and become another big fish. And it shows

(49:12):
right now at least that they're starting to become a
big fish. And what that does is it brings whoever
was already fans of these guys bigger into the forefront.
It also adds another face that people can kind of
root for. And we've had these rooting interests for a
long time, basically the same handful of guys. Let's get
some more guys in that pile. Man, Let's get some.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
How many times before like we've had it, Like we
had like Furia show up at YouTube Champs. They came
through LCQ, so they weren't even qualified through Pro League.
They picked up his watch in it last minute. You know,
no one's expecting that team to go in and do
good and then are the craziest team in that tournament.
You have the most points overall, you know, the most

(49:51):
dominant performance we'd seen up until that point, because you know,
it was it was really early on. I feel like now,
in consideration of APEX history, his watching goes on to
become like a household name, one of the biggest streamers,
like you know when it comes to APEX in general
now right, like he's arguably a top five streamer out there.
Dojo show up there, they go through LCQ run you

(50:12):
know you have people like Enemy wasn't being picked up
by teams anymore. Design was just dropped. No one wanted
to give Timmy a chance. He had to go through
Challenger circuit. They show up at Champs and they're one
fight away from winning. They run it back I split
one playoffs, they're one fight away from winning. And now,
like you take those guys and like where we're talking
about them here? What happens when Enemy goes to a
team like Stallions, when he lifts them up like what

(50:34):
Timmy was doing with like Moist at Germany, or then
what he's gonna do hopefully now with this new team.
And then another one was like Blackhand, like we have
these underdog stories, these teams you don't ever think about, right,
and then like they pop off and then at future
Lands they continue to pop off and we have big
expectations for them, So why not Nouvey? Why not because
they were an EMBA team that like for some reason,

(50:55):
because they won. I think people were upset that they won,
Like you know, Blackhand didn't win, even though they were
arguably the most dominant team at that tournament in year
three Champs, but they didn't win, right, like aside from Optic,
we'll say, but like, yeah, they didn't win. So you know,
people were excited for the for the underdog story, but
they were maybe happy because DSM one, like what would
have happened where people have been upset like a team
from Indonesia one. Yeah, So I don't know, the not

(51:16):
deserved comments are always dumb, like why not why not Novie?
They proved it. They deserve to win, and they're they're
showing they belong there too.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
And if you enjoy the sport, you should want more
faces to come in and kind of solidify themselves as
great players. And that's what we're getting so far with NAVI.
I know, you know, it's very early in Pro league.
There's still plenty of time left, but to have another
big fish at the top of the food chain is
always good in my opinion. And on the flip side,
jump of two the team that took their org or
went to their org. Sorry I should say with Go Next,

(51:47):
I Henchman and kind of otherwise known as I referred
to him as kind for the first time I mentioned
his name. They're bawling as well, Like even though they
they were fifty points behind Nave, we got to talk
about Go Next as well, because Go Next had a
really good squad. They have a team that just wants
to fly at everybody. And you're talking about two guys

(52:09):
who had been tied down by Matafe for a long
time and now they're starting to show what they're truly
capable of. And it's not just I don't think they're
just a flash in the pan. I think they're going
to be a very interesting team to watch at the Open.
That's all I'll say. I'm not gonna make a bold
prediction like I did, but I will say they're going

(52:31):
to be an interesting watch.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
I'm just gonna say, to be fair with Matafe, like
when they were playing with Matafee, they did good and
probablygue always like they should. They performed. They were like
always top three, right, you know, they had unlucky and
stuff like that too. But they were always top three,
and they didn't they could fight, but like now we'll
see what happens when they get to land at them.
He was playing for Why am I forgetting the name

(52:56):
of the or purple team to him? Yeah, he's playing
with knocked him and you know, they came like through.
I believe I could be wrong. I believe I was CQ.
They were LSQ team as well, and in their first
lane or not, their first lander was their second land,
And I might be messing all this up. All I
know is they showed up. They were not expected to
do well, and they made finals immediately right. They dropped

(53:19):
the most points, the single most point games number one
and number two in group stagers. They had thirty point
game and a twenty eight point game in one set
as well. I'm pretty sure. So anyways, like they're two
teams they can go fucking big with kills and get
a lot of points. So it's gonna be kind of
cool to see a Henchman and kind of show up there.
But yeah, they've been fucking in Pro league. Like you know,
on their first day they got ninth, which isn't great,

(53:40):
but they had thirty two points twenty four of those
were from Kills and then their second day they dropped
thirty four points or something like thirty four kills something
like that. They were just rolling squads. They were absolutely cooking.
It would have been a crazy day for them if
Novi didn't eat all the other points.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Yeah, I mean Noavy was just eating out there. Shout
out to Shout out to all the boys over at EMEA.
That should conclude the EMAPEX the podcast. A section of
the show one Big Team, going back to na and
going back to this day too that I wanted to
talk about here was the nice guys. And the reason
why I want to talk about the nice guys is
because our boy Donnie here is a part of the squad. Now,

(54:19):
congratulations to Donnie. He's a part of the nice guys.
Shouts out. If you go on the page, you can
see his name on the page. Shout out DK don
just a year ago or chillin yougin coarse lights inside
of an Airbnb, and all of a sudden he is
an analyst for the nice guys. Don I wanted to
bring them up number one to congratulate you, but number

(54:41):
two because for a long time throughout this day, they
were sitting in like the top three position, because this
is a team with guys with full time jobs, guys
with kids who were going out there and just slanging.
They were going out there bodying, no scrims.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Played fucking what was it e district?

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Yeah district.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Yeah, still hasn't technically hods bleed district. Yeah, but you.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
Know, it's it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
Like I can probably get more into the experience another
time if we, you know, maybe talk about in.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
The heart to heart.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
But just like watching them play, like they ended up
with the third most kills, like in the lobby, and
I knew just from like watching them in PSQS that
like this is gonna be their identity, like saying, doesn't
leave ballistic Basically he's there one, basically the one ballistic
player in the world. Shout out to why was that character?
Uh it's probably number two, but uh but no, it's

(55:39):
it's a lot of It's honestly just a lot of
fun to watch. It's very refreshing to see somebody just
approach the game a little bit differently from a little
more fun side. Like they they played a pretty ridiculous
game six comp and unfortunately the zone pulled on their
head and they got absolutely ran through by a team
that was much more equipped to play a zone style
of that game six. But uh, but it's it's definitely

(56:00):
big shot out to them. They're also the only triple
M and K team in April League, so obviously that
kind of breaks the stigma of being a controller player. Again,
I think Cody ended up being like top five and kills,
I believe. But again, you look through the roster to
Arka and been there, done that with a different orders.
He's been on the Lands, he's been at Cody as well,

(56:22):
having been on teams like Complexity and also making an
appearance at Lands before. So it's not really too big
of a surprise that like they could have some success.
It's just I think the way they're going about it,
I think is what's so fascinating to watch. And we'll
see if they're able to continue it. Hopefully I don't
fuck up anything by coming in or anything like that.
But but no, it's it's definitely a lot of fun

(56:47):
and again I think it's a team to definitely keep
your eye out for. It getting sixth place to start off,
and you're I think they're like twelfth overall, right now,
is still another week to go, so they have another
good week, they could easily see themselves in the top
five six situation going into uh, the middle part of
Pro League once we get back from the open, so well,
we'll definitely see it's uh, it's definitely be a very

(57:09):
interesting adventure, to say the least.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
If they win Land. Do you get a Hermit Miller?
Do you or does like for this stuff?

Speaker 3 (57:17):
To figure out.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Something coaches, because like you're on that page, who gets
the Herman Miller's.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
I have no idea.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
I mean, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna think too
far ahead. I'm just gonna hopefully get.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
All far ahead. I didn't even think about that for Burke.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
Feel free to do that.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
I didn't even think about that for Burke. Fuck man, you
guys are gonna get Herman Miller's and I'm not we'll
see exactly what jacket. You'll definitely get a jacket. If
I don't think they're gonna do jackets again for this
last I don't know if they're gonna do jackets again.

Speaker 4 (57:46):
I mean, if anybody already listens to the gm B,
I'm definitely very humble about the getting onto a par league,
not say everybody on that podcast any stretch of the imagination.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
But uh, everybody but especially Brian.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
Especially Brian. But but no, definitely shout out to the boys. Again,
it's a it's a fun opportunity. Also with for those
who don't know, is the coach also on the roster,
So shout out to him. Secret He didn't want to
say it, just kidding, was like, yeah, it's like what anyway,
but just jump batntrol per usual. But but no, it's

(58:24):
it's gonna be a fun time. I'm definitely excited. And yeah,
I definitely think in terms of their gameplay, I definitely
think with our Kans experience as a typical kind of
more zone igel along with their fragging potential and also
just playing on characters, I think that fit both Cody
and Uh saying very well. I there's definitely some some

(58:45):
room there for them to have success, and especially within
a you know, you look at qualifying for things like
mid season playoffs and things moving forward. You just got
to get top twelve and if they even continue to
be in that sixth, seventh, eighth place range, like this
thing that was a joke I turned into a little
bit more serious opportunities. So we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
So yeah, I mean this podcast has a heavy rooting
interest with Enoch and you both being on the squad.
Not to mention our guy Cody, who was the first
ever three time interview on the Apex the podcast. A
shout out to our boy Cody. Last couple of things
before we finally round out the day talking about Split
number two. As we get ready and as you guys
get ready to watch Day three, I said split number two.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
I meant Day number two.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
As we get ready to go, I.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Was like, I'm not prepared for this next segment.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
I wanted to go through the band legends real quick
because I found it pretty interesting the legend bands go
as follow Catalyst Match one, Newcastle Match two, Ash Match three, Crypto,
MASH four, News Match five. So weird, weird you would expect.
What we've seen for a long time is Ash being

(59:59):
you know, out after the first game. It took three
games for Ash to finally go, And I think people
are starting to prioritize maybe some of that defensive style
a little bit more, at least in Na and so
we'll see if that changes as things go along. I've
seen I've even seen some scrim blocks where Ash doesn't
even get banned.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
So yeah, interesting, Ash isn't really getting banned anymore. I
think people are realizing that like Ash is an end
all be all like necessary, like she's good for moving
your team, but like do her abilities like are they
necessarily to win a game? Would they be?

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Probably not? Right? Like you know, like those characters like
Kat Newcastle maybe are like moving the needle a little
bit more, even even a crypto right because of all
the information you could get.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
So yeah, last thing, I was trying to go back
and look at this website. I just hyped it up
and now it's fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Yeah, what are you trying to look at? What do
you want to see?

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
I can see the overall like the overall standings.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Overall standings for which day.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
For no, just overall like whe oh.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Yeah, I can't tell you where to find that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
I can pull it up on my side.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Just yeah, I've actually not found that yet. That's a
good point.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
You guys are you guys are killing me and freaking.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
What do you mean? It's not I'm very good with
technology competition overview. Nope, that's the rules.

Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
So I've got the standings of so they can stop
hopefully complaining, even though they won't stop complaining.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
But anyway, pro League learn more. I'm back at the rules.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
We're never ready to get through these.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Real quick. Go through the overall standings in the America's
region right now. Just do the top twelve the teams
that would be in right now.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
Yeah, so as of right now, and again, obviously there's
one group that hasn't played, or a couple of groups
that haven't played multiple or two blocks yet, but through
the first couple of days we'd have Falcons is number
one overall, Liquid number two, hust number three, Oblivion four
also shout out to a blimin are getting signed. For
those who haven't seen, I'm sure you'll see that work

(01:02:03):
very soon. Stallions five, Vertics Pro six one hundred seven
Flat eight also shout out to them for having a
fifth place this week. MV nine, l G ten, Unleashed eleven,
and those nice gentlemen in twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
There we go, nice guys sitting in the green zone.
That's what we want to see with a day and half.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
So I just want to say I finally found where
the standings are. It's on the left, bar Ryot, It's
the fucking little there's the person and their child, like
like a little symbol of the person and a small person.
That's the standings. I clicked three different fucking buttons. It
brought me to the rules for Pro League Split one.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
And I cann't find the standing shop right now, so
I'm gonna look through that real quick as well.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Statistics are on here. That's really cool. Oh there's a
lumbar while they're while they're going off in a tangent.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
I think we would.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
We do need to mention the other two regions that
also kicked off play this past weekend. It was actually
their first week, so they were a week behind this
coming week and actually they're playing a double block. Why
the hell that's the schedule? I have no idea, which yeah,
they always do that. I never understand it. Can we
just have some sort of freaking linear schedule. But anyway,

(01:03:21):
so through the first week, shout out to GHS, Fanatic
and Rignite going one, two and three over an Apac North.
Big storyline there being Fanatic debuting their new roster with
it being Yuka f and libel Ace and Colonel Garcia,
So definitely big shout out to them. Definitely looking really good.
They basically tied for They tied for first, but GHS

(01:03:44):
just had the better top performing game by one point,
so they just want the tiebreaker, so big shout out
to them and how they played a very interesting note
for them. In terms of legend bands, Kat was not
banned at all and Valk was the third band, so
definitely interesting dynamics going with the legend band so far

(01:04:05):
across the regions and then over in APAX South. Bringing
that up just real quick, we are looking at VK gaming.
Uh ended up taking the day dream Fire coming in
second and then Soul. I don't think that's even how
you say it. That's how I'm gonna say. It's a
hell of a lot easier than I think I'll actually say it.
That is the roster that has Sharky and then the

(01:04:25):
two boys from the old guild roster which is Jessco
and UH Legacy if I remember that correctly, So big
shout out to those teams. Dream Fire they have a
new third. If you haven't seen the clip yet, there
was an extremely nasty one v three that he had
to win the first game. Also shout out to Lace
for having one of the funniest watch parties I have

(01:04:46):
ever seen. Can not do the observer pov to save
her life. Poor her, but god was it one of
the funniest things I've ever watched. And just shout out
to her for the entertainment and just kind of keeping
the you know, keeping some eyes on that region because
I think one thing, you know, for those who haven't
seen the Long Shot unfortunately is not covering them for

(01:05:07):
this particular split. We hopefully will see them back because
that was a great production. But again, huge shout out
to Lace and Geno when everybody else that brings us
to that region. And again to shout out to VK,
Dreamfire and Seoul for having a good start.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
I'm still looking for I can't. I'm still looking standing
no what I take back every.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Left side left side usual like this is home competition
over you news schedule standings. I will say, as Donnie
was talking and I was clicking around, they have the
map view for poy draft and that's really cool, like
so you can see all the poys but on the
actual map. That's cool especially because because because especially because

(01:05:49):
it comes it has the number for each poy, which
dis matters to probably no one except for people who
run tournament stuff like that. But the number here corresponds
to the what you have to name the team when
you go. I went to a private lobby, and that's
really useful for me because I didn't know where to
hit those numbers for Now, that goes back though, like
I'll take one point away for the fact that I
want to zoom in on the map, I have to
scroll down on my scroll wheel instead of up like

(01:06:10):
every other fucking website. So okay, I'm back off two
points forward. But like Chris, Chris is locked. He's gonna
fix this I I never talked about. He's gonna fix
gri Chris is gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
Shout out Chris, big, shout out. He's probably never he's
never gonna listen to the show. And we're you know what,
We're just gonna keep shouting him out for stuff. We're
just gonna keep shouting him out. He's never gonna listen
to this, and we're just gonna Actually, I might just
start shouting out Chris for like I r L stuff too.
I might just start I might start doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
He's gonna say his full name, full name, so they
don't think you're talking about your friend Chris.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
They know I'm not shouting him out.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
That's a whole different podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Yeah, that's a whole different show. That's a whole different show. Okay,
ladies and gents, that should just about do it for
our coverage of match day number two around the league,
Thank you guys for tuning in. As always, what we're
gonna do is we're gonna hit a quick ad and
go into the heart heart, and then we're gonna send
you guys on the rest of your week. Let's get it. Okay, lemen,

(01:07:12):
it's heart to heart time, Heart to heart time, Jumba.
You gotta go first here.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
I had to. I remember my first one? What was
my second one? I always come with two sometimes, you
know the first one my leaf's baby. We locked in
first seed in the Atlantic Division. I don't know how
to feel. I don't know how to feel. We are
recording this on a Thursday. Can I date what day
it is? Sunday is our first pro league game? Pro

(01:07:44):
league game? Can I just come? Oh? Yeah, Sunday is
our first playoff game. We play autum up Battle of Ontario. Terrified,
to say the least, I've never been more calm in
my team to do well, this seems really built different

(01:08:04):
for once. But I've also I'm always fucking worried.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
Shut up?

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Why shut up?

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Who predicted this?

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
What I said to you? I said, if they win
the Cup, I do something, and I'll stick to it.
I don't remember what.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
I said that this was the year.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
You also said it was the Cowboys years. So let's stop.
Let's stop before we get into this whole thing again.
Let's stop before we get into this whole thing again.
I'll just talk about Oh, I knew what my second
one was. Yeah, this is a funny one actually. Okay,
So first yeah, and y'all we'll talk about that. You'll
see how I'm feeling after this Sunday. Okay, that's what
we'll talk about and you can leave it there out
of Sunday. But we locked in first in our division.

(01:08:43):
Kind of crazy, and we just I don't I don't
know when Washington's next game is, but we were down
three one to Detroit as we were recording this and
fucking in a nothing game. Had Felipe Meyers score a
goal as if he was paddled that suit against the
Red Wings of all teams too, and then Chris tannev
scored with one point eight seconds left, and then Scott

(01:09:03):
law And scores an overtime winner. Those are guys that
don't score and they're putting up goals in the last
game of the year, and that if, if, if, fucking
Washington loses, the Leaves finish the year off with the
second most wins in the league. When did we do that?
I don't even know when that happened, but apparently that's
all I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
Saying is there were people in the media who predicted this.
There were people in the media who predicted this, and
they are painted out as a villain. They are you
are a villain.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
Yeah, because you're trying to jinx my freaking team. Washington
lost all the ship. The Leaves finished for the second
most wins in the league when that happened, not the
second most points because Washington lost better. But why we
haven't eve played playoffs until I'm past the first round.
You don't get to say anything.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
Well, I've never ever in my life celebrated something way
too early and then washed the crash and blow up
in my face, especially not I'm not celebrating.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
I'm not celebrating anyway. Second thing is this is gonna
be kind of funny. And we talked about this privately,
But like me and Wyatt have never really played Apex
together before other than I think one game and it
was like a one and done thing. It was really weird.
So like, yeah, we're we're here. We've played lots of
cod together. We've played a little bit of Play Up
you Won't get back on anymore, We've played other games
and everything like that, but we've rarely played Apex together.

(01:10:19):
That sounds ironic, right. The other night, I don't know
why one am I decided to start ripping a rank
sash with him and Jay And I've always kind of
heard these things through through the Grape Buying, through the
GMB podcast. They everyone calls themselves bad on that podcast.
So I just kind of talked up the why it
maybe not be that good the game. Like I thought
he was all right, but I didn't think he was

(01:10:39):
like the fact that we were gonna jump into these
diamond lobbies and fucking he was kind of cooking. So
I've given him his flowers privately. I'll give him flowers
on the pod too. Why they can kind of farm,
you can kind of farm with Ballistic too. Uh So, Yeah,
that was kind of that was I appreciated our rank.
Sash uh trying to get in some more district tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Yeah, I'm basically like saying, I only play ballistic. I
will only play ballistic and then I'll bust out the lifeline.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
If I was okay, that's okay, So.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
That's what I'll do. But I felt good. I felt good,
and then I played with Jay and Zephyr last night
and I felt good again. I well, I started off
way shittier. I had to really warm up, and then
when I warmed up, I was back. I was back
big time. Me and Jay had this clutch inside of
a room and in uh what was it e district?

(01:11:28):
We were stuck inside of like one of those gas
station buildings and we're like just it was a three
v two and because every it had just gone down,
they all three rushed and we somehow won. I don't
know how I went. I don't even know what happened.
I blacked out and then we won the fight. So
I'm feeling good. I'm feeling confident right now. Donnie, you
want to go next with your heart to heart?

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
Yeah, so I'll I'll go ahead and fill in replace
of knock this week and just hit the grateful and uh,
I mean, it's it's funny what this year has been
with quitting coaching baseball and kind of just wanting to
have some free time and just kind of do what
I want to do. Buddy Connor, as people might know

(01:12:10):
it was Progence, invites me out to go to LA
with him to go to the Apex event that's out there.
Never been to any esport before or you know, I
watched a little bit of APEX competitive at.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
That point, but not that much.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
And yeah, I end up.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Going out there.

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
He tells me about these guys that he upset the
podcast for. I have no idea what the expectation is
going to be. And again, I think I've told that
story plenty of times, but end up having a great time.
White invites me for again. I never know why, besides
I just didn't shut the fuck up, I guess, but
invites me to get on the podcast and record an
episode there in the airbnb. And now we're a year

(01:12:49):
later and on the main show now and now with
a professional pro league team. So it's, uh, it's been
a crazy year. I'm definitely excited to go down to
New Orleans and not only obviously get to hang out
with the boys whole week and do what we did
last time in LA, but also get the root for
Dice guys and hope they do well, but also our

(01:13:10):
boy Burke and Fusion as well. Just hopefully you know,
both of our teams are able to go pretty far
and have a good time with that. But regardless, again,
I'm just I'm super grateful for that all of the
opportunities and can definitely shout out to Connor forgetting me
involved in all this, and shout out to White and
Jumba and Enoch Jay just everybody else that have encouraged

(01:13:31):
me just to continue to follow this path, even though
I doubted myself at times that they said I could
definitely do a good job, and thankfully it's worked out
so far.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
So hell yeah. That's a beautiful heart to heart I
love so much, and it really reminds me of the
story of my heart to heart, which is the story
of Gabriel Landis gog Colorado Avalanche captain. Last game he
ever played was lifting the Stanley Cup Trophy, which I
don't know if you know, but that's when you win
the entire league and you're the greatest team in the world.
We were that at one point, but that was his

(01:13:59):
final game because gate Blade came up and cut him
right above the kneecap. He hasn't played since then. You
want to talk about perseverance, he basically replace his whole knee.
They chopped his leg off and just put up somebody
else's knee in there. And by somebody else's, I mean
something synthetic. It wasn't even from a person. Actually, I
don't know that for sure. I'm speaking out of my ass,
but I'm sighing in a way pumatic that I want

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people to understand that his knee had to be reconstructed redone.
Everything was fixed, and this is my favorite player of
all time. Was my first ever jersey. When I watched
him hoist the Stanley Cup, tears were in my eyes,
and I thought maybe that was because the entire team
had won. My team had won, and that was the reason.
But I started to realize after these last almost three

(01:14:42):
years of not seeing him on the ice, being our captain,
being my favorite player, Moments that would pop up on
Twitter or on YouTube or I'd click on them, and
tears instantly well up in your eyes, because you want
to see this guy get back to the pinnacle of
what he could be. You wanted to see it happen.
I'm not gonna lie to you. I gave up. I
thought he was going to retire. I thought it was done.

(01:15:04):
I thought it was over because they said that this
season he was gonna start around March. That didn't happen.
And then all of a sudden, just a few weeks later,
he releases a documentary that's weird, talking about his entire
experience going through this whole thing. Why would you release
a documentary right before playoffs? There has to be a reason.
There has to be, like, you wouldn't do this unless

(01:15:24):
A you're retiring or B you're getting ready to suit backup.
All of a sudden, he's been loaned to the Triple
A team, the Colorado Eagles. WHOA, that's big. Is he
gonna play? Hell, yeah, he's gonna play. He hops in
there and he plays. He plays the first game. I
think he had ten shifts. I think he played a
total of like, I think he had I don't know

(01:15:47):
how many minutes he had, but I think he had
a total of ten shifts. He goes in there, this
second game and he scores a goal. Now, I want
you to understand, as somebody who has done this his
entire life, to not be able to physically, not be
able to do it for three years, after being at
the height of what the sport has to offer, and

(01:16:08):
being having it ripped away from you, and then scoring
that goal, being able to skate again, being able to
be with your teammates again, they're watching you in the stands.
What that would do for you? I full on cried,
like tears down my face. Holy shit, that's a level
of perseverance that I don't think in my life right

(01:16:30):
now I could achieve. But seeing that makes me want
to strive for that type of perseverance because I give
up way too quickly on things in my life, whether
it's my sports teams, whether it's you know, life stuff.
I think I give up too quickly. I'd throw in
the towel way too quickly. The Gabriel Landskog story has

(01:16:52):
shown me that I need to stay in it. I
need to stay the course because things are going to
get bad. They're always going to get bad. This is
what life is. But you gotta stay the course and
you gotta stay with it. And you gotta stay on
top of it and stay strong and stay perseverance. You
can have the staring at the ceiling nights that I
talked about with Jumba in our first ever interview. That happens,
but you can't let it get you down forever. You

(01:17:14):
gotta get back up, and you gotta get your new knee,
and you gotta get back on the ice.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
That's really that's the entire thing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
When you're really struggling, get a whole new knee, synthetic
pop it in your back. The story of Gabriel Landskog,
the story of the Colorado Avalanche that is my heart
to heart this week is Gabrielandiskog. But the one thing
is very unfortunate. My Colorado Avalanche lanyard literally disintegrated in
my fucking hand, which tells me that we're fucked. I

(01:17:44):
think we're gonna get swept.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
I told you. I think that's the metaphor of like
that lanyard broke. Because Landeskog, how do you say the
last name, Landeskog, Landskog, Landeskog is back was put back together.
It could be the lanyard broke.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
So I just realized I talked about perseverance, and then
I just said, we're gonna get swept, We're gonna get
fucked because a lanyard broke.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
Just see somebody likes a little semblance of what he has.
My life's just the lanyard broken way.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
But dude, it literally disintegrated in my hand. It's not
like it's just like, oh, I was pulling it too
hard and it broke. I literally was holding it and
it just like fell apart. It felt divine. It felt
like somebody was saying, like, hey, you're getting swept. That's
what it felt like. It felt like a slap to
the face and maybe I deserve one. But I'm gonna

(01:18:43):
try to be more perserve. I'm gonna try to I'm
gonna try to persevere. I'm gonna try that. So that's
my heart towards this week, and ladies and gents, that
should just about do it for the show. Thank you
guys for tuning in. As always, Boys, I think that
one was fun. I think this was a fun one.
Shout out to Lou.

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
Shout.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
I was gonna say the same shit.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Shout out Lou. You're giving me the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
Just remember if you're lagging hide from Lou.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
Don't tell Lou, keep it to yourself. And when he
asks you in the post game, I feel like that's
the only time where you can say, like, hey, Lua,
I was lagging, but I didn't want you to have to.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
Don't talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
I love it. Well, ladies and gents, we're getting ready
to watch day number three of Pro League. Remember, if
you're trying to catch the action from the other regions,
they are double blocks, so you're gonna have a ton
of stuff to watch, just an absolute ton, So that
should be there for you guys, and then we're gonna
be locked in on the America's region. We're always in
the chat on Jayhawks streams, so you can you can
go say what's up to us there as we're watching

(01:19:52):
and checking out all the action from Pro League. Thank
you guys for tuning in. As always, we'll catch you
guys next week for another edition of the Apex The
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