Episode 126: Falcons Wxltzy Talks Winning 1st LAN + Pro League Breakdown & Regional Recap

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:14):
What's up everyone, Welcome back to another edition of the
Apex the Podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, we are back and
we have a banger show for you guys here. Today,
we've got a big interview with our man Waldsea from
Falcons talking about the ALGs open as well as what's
going on with team Falcons right now.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Great interview with Waldsey.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Later on, we also have both days from Saturday and Sunday,
Pro League Day six and Day seven, and then we've
got the regional recap with Donald. We're gonna go through
all the other regions and talk about what happened around
the ALGs. But boys, we had our back to our
second weekend in a row with two days of Pro League.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
It feels good, it feels great.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
We got to get through all of it here first,
So let's kick it off with Sad where Shopify Rebellion
wins the day. Shopify Rebellion wins with sixty five points.
They were first overall. Second place was Furia, third place Sentinels,
and fourth place Ninjas in Pajamas. Now, as much as
I'd love to talk about Shopify winning the day, the
major story here is actually Furia because Game one they

(01:21):
have knocked, who has his power go out? He can't play,
He just DQ's in the middle of the match. They
win the first game as a duo, and then they
have Jamo come in and Jamo just is on the
crypto the rest of the series and they get themselves
a second place. As a coach, that's got to be
the best feeling in the world. As a team, that's

(01:42):
got to be top five best feelings in the world.
But it was awesome to watch Furia run it down
with their coach on the crypto. They had a game plan, boys,
and they stuck with it and it worked for him.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
What'd you see from that?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
E Yeah, I mean I think it just highlights just
how talented the duo of Madness and keanar to the
fact that they can basically two man an entire day
plus a crypto drone and then come out with second
place on the day. Obviously, it would have been like

(02:17):
huge and just like a storyline of storylines if they
came out on top and then one first.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
But I mean second on the day is not bad
at all.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
It's probably one of their better finishes so far in
this proleague that we've seen from them, And I bet
Jamo that had to have, Like, that's got to be
the best he's felt post post ALGs gameplay ever. Yeah,
because I mean being a coach partly playing the game
and then just like being able to like step up

(02:46):
for your team when they need you, and to be
able to perform at a level where he's not like
costing them every game. I mean, sure he's just sitting
on Crypto, but like he was getting it done on Crypto.
He was providing them with all the intel that they needed.
And but like, I really do think that it just
shows like the individual skill level of Keon and Madness,

(03:07):
because I think Keon had the highest damage on the day,
and then I think they were like doing fairly well
in terms of kills even as just a duo, And
I just think that highlights just how incredibly talented they are.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
They both are.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
Yeah, it was definitely really interesting to watch because like obviously,
like I was, you know, our team is in the lobby,
so we didn't really realize it, and we get into
game two and we see that JMO's alone in We're
just like, what the fuck is going on?

Speaker 6 (03:34):
But like you just you.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
End up seeing uh, you know, we obviously end up
hearing about knock situation, which obviously, like you definitely feel
for him because obviously as much work as they put
in and all of a sudden you have something that's
completely out of control happens just just like you know,
what do you do from here? Easily could do rail
the day for the team, and like no one would
blame them, right, Like it's a situation that no one's
abously expecting and completely just out of nowhere. But for yeah,

(03:57):
for a coach to step in, which God was like
the last time he's played, Like I'd assume he's maybe
played a little bit, but like can't be anything too
crazy because he's so focused on coaching. Like it's it's
pretty crazy to watch because I mean, I mean, why
it's played the game with me, he knows there eire'd
be no way at hell and I could do that.
So like it's pretty oppressive to see, uh, somebody stepping

(04:18):
in that kind of situation. And not only that, but
like them to I was to get the second, like
you one hundred percent take that, like obviously like they
should be calling so like it really shouldn't have derailed
them if they did bad anyway, But for them to
get second, especially you know, they win the first game
as the duo. In game five, the Keon and Madness
go down and are full killed and Jamo's lily just

(04:40):
hiding in his freaking crypto throne, just trying to stay alive.
It was really funny because we had their POV because
we had died earlier in that game, and Arcan is
just like trying to watch because Arcan is a crypto
made obviously, so he's just sitting there like, Jamo, fly,
you're fucking drone higher, what do you like? This is
absolute critiquing the crap out of them, and it's like, dude,
he's probably shitting himself right now, give the van a break.

(05:02):
But he absolutely clutched it. He gets the res they
drop in and somehow ended up getting second in that game.
But yeah, it was just a crazy performance. It was
a cool storyline to come out of it, and definitely
a really really cool moment for Jmo.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
I watched just about every game of when he like
took over just to kind of see how everything went.
And I, John, You're one hundred percent correct. If you're
in that situation, you're shitting your pants, same as me.
He was actually having a lot of fun with it,
like you could tell. I mean, I don't know if
he ever played professionally, Like, I don't know if he
ever had like had he probably had.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
Some set he did at like more towards the beginning
of APEX.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Okay, yeah, that makes sense because he he was not
feeling In fact, he was actually laughing at himself a lot,
like for some of the there was one game I
think he only had like two hundred and thirty damage
or something, and they and like, you know, Keon's dropping numbers,
Madness is dropping numbers, and it's just he's just laughing
at himself. So he was actually handling it really well.
And it makes a lot of sense, I mean, when

(05:59):
you're surrounded by this all the time. But yeah, he
was just having a good time with it and it
was fun to watch, man.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
I mean, I'm sure like when you're at the point
where the coach is coming in, and especially when you're
in a position such as them where they have to
just really shit the bed in order for them to
not call, so like they're sitting pretty comfy and so
they're like, all right, obviously not ideal. Let's just make
the best of the situation, and so I don't feel

(06:27):
like there was a ton of pressure necessarily on him,
and I don't think and I'm pretty confident that the
expectations were as about as low as they could be
for any player subbing in.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Like no disrespect to.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Jenemoe, but I mean like they were like, get in
the Crypto drone and do your thing and so and
he had fun with it.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
Yeah, I definitely worked out for them real quick. I
was just going to say, because I had mentioned before
we recorded, there's been a lot of weekends where at
least at some point Crypto gets banned, and it's like
the one weekend that we see that Crypto doesn't get banned,
I mean talk about the stars are lining for them
this weekend to where they get to pull something off
like this, Like again, like you'd hope karma would kind
of swing back in their favor a little bit with

(07:07):
that situation would knocked. But yeah, it was just crazy
to see, like, damn, the one weekend that Crypto doesn't
get banned, they're actually able to like pull this off
and it worked out.

Speaker 6 (07:15):
So it was crazy.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
If you ask any pro league team, hey man, your
coach has to step in and you get a first,
a second, and a third. Every single time they're like, yeah,
we're taking that, Like they get a first, second, third,
And the funniest thing is the time they won was
when he wasn't even in the game yet. It was
just them too. So yeah, just incredible performance from Furio.
I'm actually gonna throw in the clip from that first

(07:37):
game where Madness and Keon come together to win that
one because the cohesion, like he mentioned earlier, really top notch.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Let me throw in that clip real quick.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
There's no extra names on the ground back here is
there by the pills. No knock, start looking for lut
on full close here are you good?

Speaker 7 (07:57):
Knock?

Speaker 3 (07:59):
No shot?

Speaker 4 (08:01):
What they just can't they?

Speaker 8 (08:05):
They play quere man, hold up one.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
I I our need ourself.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
We're gonna good now, nut, We're gonna.

Speaker 9 (08:28):
No, you're gonna put off that.

Speaker 10 (08:30):
Just keep reilling that.

Speaker 7 (08:31):
You're fine.

Speaker 9 (08:32):
You're fine to keep rebilliant.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
Fly back.

Speaker 7 (08:35):
I'm going strip of the team, you know.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
An park kars those guys there towards us.

Speaker 7 (08:42):
I wanna slim.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
Pick any farm.

Speaker 9 (08:47):
Thanks you word.

Speaker 7 (08:48):
I'm gonna do.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
Is they q and I'm gonna climb the sea minutes.

Speaker 9 (08:52):
I'm just holding my old Okay, I'm putting here here
take this quan, look any clan, don't.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
He had alter games plucks off people right now.

Speaker 7 (09:01):
I'm all right, I tell you what a god who's
closing a score three?

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Putting a fucking markey onry sorry sorry, betting on her back.

Speaker 10 (09:13):
We can get place.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
We get second place here right here.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
Enemy, Yeah, they have a climb at the time, running right,
running right.

Speaker 6 (09:18):
They're my interest in the indust.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
I'm bringing it on our on our cole strike a
cole right, I want to come on up?

Speaker 6 (09:24):
No, no, no, I like ude here can you report.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
To the getting reports again?

Speaker 7 (09:31):
Hold on heard they're.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Playing here for free?

Speaker 7 (09:34):
The cot up play.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Right, play on me.

Speaker 7 (09:39):
You're paying here all the time?

Speaker 4 (09:41):
Here this switch heat play, letting the women go for whip.

Speaker 6 (09:52):
Let's go dude, let's the fucking.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Go bro good ship up.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
That is on like that perfectly encapsulates this team and
how they've been able to do it for so long.
And one thing that I'm really impressed with with Furia
as well, was there was that time remember where it
looked like there was some turmoil with the team. You know,
things were looking odd there was some drama, and after

(10:19):
that they continues to stick together. And then even after that,
after the open, Maddens tweets out, hey, you know, there's
no reason to change this team right now.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
We feel good moving forward.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
And then it shows in a situation like this where
they don't have one of their players on the squad
and a good player at that was knocked and they
still managed to come up in second place. So I'm
happy to see how this Furia roster has continued to progress.
And I wish we'd see this a little bit more
where teams kind of stick together through high and low,
and it shows in this week. So congrats to Furia.

(10:50):
Shouts out to those boys. We've had Jamo in the
pod right, I'm pretty sure we have. I believe I
think it was when he what was his name before, Jamo.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
PvP.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, Yeah, we had him. We've had them on before,
So shout out shout out Jmo for the performance this week.
Shout out to the Fury of Boys. We should get
back to the winners though. Shopify Rebellion.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
I have a take.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
I've been thinking about it. I don't even think it's
a hot one. I think I just in my mind
I was laying in bed one night and I thought
to myself, I think I think Shopify Rebellion is winning Champs.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
I just think that.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
I'm calling it right now. I want it stated now
for when they're lifting the Champs trophy. I think Shopify
Rebellion is winning Champs. Not a hot take whatsoever, but
a lot could happen, a lot could go wrong. I'm
just gonna say it right now. Shopify Rebellion, They're winning Champs.
Put a ticket on it right now. I always win bets,
you know. Just check my prize picks where I went
two and twenty one in one season one two. That's big.

(11:44):
I think Shopify Rebellion's winning it. But no, they continue
to do the thing that they do. Their coms are incredible.
Every time I watch Shopify in any sort of facet,
whenever they do, like the live listening or anything like that,
it's just really impressive how they communicate. And actually there
was a lot of that with Fury this week as well.
But shopf I just continues to impress. They have everything

(12:07):
you could want, very good, very solid performance from them.
Do you guys, did you guys have anything else from
from Shopify?

Speaker 3 (12:15):
I mean I would only say that, if anything, it's
probably just not good for them that you just made that.
If you're a Shopify fan and you're listening to the show,
I hope you're not in just absolute shambles.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
Some teams that we finally put a prediction on, please
fucking win because we need a break whatever or we
have around us right now that causes these bad things
to happen.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
So Shopify go win.

Speaker 6 (12:47):
Chance for the love of guy, I mean, they got
a good chance.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
I mean they are playing exceptionally well and and just
the combination it feels like this like everything has come
together with them picking up empty Zion, you really stepping
in and probably playing some of the best apecs he's
ever played. And I mean that boy Coy is one
of the best shooters out there. And so they definitely

(13:11):
when you look at what a team needs in order
to like really succeed in this game, they all excel
at the roles that they're each like that each have
put upon them. And then in terms of cohesion, they
play the game incredibly well together and so they definitely
they definitely have a good chance of being The first

(13:33):
time why it was right.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
It was just interesting to like with this day, because
I remember like watching it and just being like, okay,
like they're not doing too bad, Like obviously they had
like a couple good games, so I mean, why I
look back through it, It's like they had three games
when they were in the top six, and they had
like fifty seven points in those three games, and they
ended up with like sixty five on the day. So

(13:56):
it's like it's just really funny that even when you
kind of look at it at like just kind of
like look in all six games, it's like, oh, like
they kind of played okay, but then you see that
still win. It's like even when Shopify isn't like new
King Lobbies and absolutely tearing things up, they still have
the ability to produce a first place. I think it
just goes to show how high their floor is with
this team, and we obviously know how high their ceiling

(14:18):
can be, because obviously they're going to be a team
that's definitely considered a favorite to win any Land.

Speaker 6 (14:22):
But it's just really interesting to see.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
Like obviously you talk about them every day they're in
a set, but I really felt like this day like
they definitely have their moments obviously because they won a game,
but it was just like, oh, like they won the day,
Like it was kind of crazy to see.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
It's like they can hang in the shadows and you're
not going to notice them a lot. But it's because
their their floor is so much higher than a lot
of other teams. Like even when they're at their floor,
it's not going to be as bad as some other
teams in Pro League. And it's just because they have
such a great cohesion as a squad. And I do

(14:55):
think Empty doesn't get talked about enough. There was a
time too where and whenever people would bring up Empty,
they would just talk about the fact that he didn't
get enough kills or whatever. Don't ever say anything bad
about Empty in front of Jayhawk. He will absolutely lose
his mind. Rightfully so, by the way, because his resume
is impressive. And big shout out to Empty forgiven Jay

(15:16):
the jersey in New Orleans, because yeah, I mean, obviously
it's it's awesome to watch them.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
I'm apologizing if I put a hex on them. I
didn't mean to.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
At a certain point, we gotta break, we gotta break
the mold. Me Don and Jumba are all terrible jinxes.
And I feel like this team's too good to be
jinxd by by me. They're just too good. If they
suck next weekend, I will I will take it back.
I will do whatever I need to do to get
them to win Champs, even if I have to just
hate on them from afar so big shout out to

(15:49):
Shopify Rebellion they win another day. Speaking of team cohesion,
one of my favorite things I watched this weekend was
that Sentinels roster. And I just said early about how
I really like when teams find a way to stick together.
Sentinels with a third place on the day, I feel
like they don't get talked about a lot. And they
had a really good showing out there in New Orleans

(16:11):
loader Riley and Carter they have another good well, they
have a really good day on this one, and I
was listening to their comms from all the way through.
I don't think there's a more fun team to be
on than the Sentinels team. The way that they like
to have fun and communicate is second to none. It
was awesome to watch. Actually, I'm gonna throwing a clip

(16:32):
right here of their win. I don't even let me see.
I don't know if they won or they just popped
off and got a shit ton of kills. But it
was the final game of the day. Yeah, they got
fourth place, but they got eighteen kills on E District.
I'm gonna throwing that clip right now of like just
the final couple minutes of that game, because you just
gotta listen to these comms.

Speaker 5 (16:55):
John Jump for here.

Speaker 9 (16:56):
I gonna tell you to me a bit.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Kill this other games like the Hide at the crowd.

Speaker 7 (17:03):
Do you love me?

Speaker 9 (17:05):
I said, you have a probably simper rips a book.

Speaker 7 (17:10):
Yep, come to me, Come to me, taking space fridge. Okay,
let's not come up.

Speaker 8 (17:13):
I'm money money you land.

Speaker 9 (17:17):
No, I've made it.

Speaker 7 (17:22):
God, go what what what? What what?

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Craig Craig Glass brag guy classes back play for girls.

Speaker 7 (17:30):
Gil anybody. He says, burning and burning kills pills that
I relize what to do?

Speaker 2 (17:38):
You don't do them matter what the day the.

Speaker 7 (17:47):
Baby here go, you're going.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Swear you're left, You're dead.

Speaker 7 (17:52):
It's bug, Just Joe, look at your show.

Speaker 10 (17:55):
Just shill, chill, chill, chill there till the hill.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
That they're not that sing, they're not doing it, they're
not swinging it. You're gonna do dot fucking move you.

Speaker 10 (18:01):
Yeah, you're dead.

Speaker 7 (18:03):
Good sun Hello solo? Do you think the one? I think?

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Go?

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Even even his eyes.

Speaker 7 (18:10):
Don't play?

Speaker 2 (18:16):
You can play play old deal, blow blow bridge a
little bridge.

Speaker 7 (18:18):
No no, no, no, no, no no no, let him
play bright.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Just slide below bridge. You should be fine if you
just play below bridge.

Speaker 7 (18:26):
Okay, just let down, fuck it go do what he wants.

Speaker 10 (18:30):
Okay, Oh yeah, move again?

Speaker 7 (18:42):
Ain't okay?

Speaker 10 (18:45):
An Oh my god, no hold.

Speaker 7 (18:51):
On, let me get take that, let it go good.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, it's just fun. I just I would want to
be a part of this team. They've been together for
a really long time. They've continued to just get better
and better and better as a team, and it's starting
to show, like in their performances in Pro League so far.
And I really hope that they can qualify for EWC
if they haven't already done. Do you know if there's
like a point because they made finals in in New Orleans, like,

(19:21):
are they locked for EWC or is there a different
process for that? No?

Speaker 5 (19:25):
So basically the only teams that are one hundred percent
locked right now for AWC are the top five from
the Open. So that would have been Falcons, that would
have been one hundred thieves Alcasia from Apax, South Alliance
and Shopify, so they're the only five. Everybody else is
just battling now through Pro League right now, and that's

(19:45):
where like the rest of them will get their spots.
But I mean, just based on how Sentinel Sentinels is
playing right now, like it's really impressive because like they
always were kind of a mid table like Pro league
team for the longest time because obviously they've been together,
like you said, for a little a little bit now
and just to see the growth, especially this year, like
they go into the Open they obviously do as well

(20:06):
as they did under Empire Gaming, and then now they
just continue to it in Pro League. Like I know
Jay had mentioned the Sentinels curse basically if anybody that
signed with Sentinels just started playing really bad, and they've
kind of broke that mold so far. So it's been
it's been really fun to watch. And again, they were
a team they had I think seven points to the
first two games, which like isn't the end of the world,

(20:26):
but it's also like obviously it's not a great start, right,
but then they go win that third game on storm
point drop an eight KL win, and then they kind
of go through another loll again in the next couple
of games and they end up getting like a seven
point game five, but they didn't get anything really in
game four, and then like you said, they just come
out in game six and just absolutely go nuts. And

(20:47):
it's like I said, it's just really impressive for a
roster that really hasn't had a ton of like high
placing results until really this year to really see that,
like how much they've improved. And I think this is
one of those stories of we talk about roster mania
so much and how everybody feels like after three months
they have to make a change to dramatically improve something.
They're they're the exact opposite, right, Like they're a team

(21:09):
that's played together a lot longer together and I've really
found a cohesion that works for them. And it's yeah,
I think that's just really the perfect word. It's just
how fluid they are together and how you know, just
how much they understand where each person's going to be
in a fight, you know how the IGL is going
to call things. It's just it's it's again, it's a

(21:29):
really really cool story for somebody that's not you know,
the Falcons or the shopifyes or whatever to have this
many impressive performances so far during the first part of
this year.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, and it's interesting that, you know, we talk about
team cohesion and then especially for this at least this Saturday,
I have Fury and Sentinels, who are a roster that
I've maintained being together at least two of them for
a while, right, And then we move over into a
team that is really struggling right now in Luminosity Gaming,

(22:03):
and a team that was and had been together for
a while, and they replace Saucer, they bring in Nocturnal.
I don't really want to knock them for that, and
I don't think it's a Nocturnal problem by any sense
of the word. But I don't know what's going on
with Luminosity Gaming. They are struggling real bad right now.
If you look at the overall standings, they are in

(22:23):
the red, not in a great spot, and then they
get seventeenth on Saturday. It just has not been clicking
for them whatsoever, like just in any capacity. Don I
haven't gotten to sit down and watch every single game
of what's been going on with them, But do you
think like this is something that they can fix in
the final few days, or do you think they've they've
gotten a little bit too far behind to be able

(22:45):
to make up that ground.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
I mean, I think with the caliber of players that
we're talking about, they definitely can figure it out. I
think they're all smart enough and good enough as players
to figure out a way to get to the all
find spots they need to get into. Obviously, it's a
very tough situation right now with where they're at, But
their biggest thing at this point is that they do
have three potential opportunities as long as they make regional finals.

(23:12):
So they're kind of in a position right now where
I think you don't necessarily think about the top sixteen.
You think about just hey, let's just solidify the top twenty.
Let's get ourselves in the regional finals. For those who
don't know, regional finals, if you win the regional final,
it doesn't matter where you are in the standings, you
automatically qualify for EWC. Or if you after the regional final,

(23:32):
those points still count towards the overall standings. So they
could be in twentieth going into the regional final. But
if they get like a second or a third, and
they are able to accumulate enough points to jump enough
teams they could still get into that top fifteen or sixteen.
So I think right now it's just kind of you know,
the damage control, figure out a way to get into
the top twenty, give yourselves a chance, and I think,

(23:53):
you know, I definitely think they're very capable of doing that.
And I know this weekend coming up they do have
in one of their sets, they did get a very
powerful POI on Broken Moon, so I think that'll be
a good one for them to potentially play out of
a lot of zones, end up pulling there or pull
to bionomics behind the POI. So I think there's definitely

(24:13):
some good opportunities for them. I just think the biggest
thing is it's just really the cohesion we've mentioned, right, Like,
you bring a Nocturnal that plays a certain style. Yeah,
you have Shulby and Naughty that played a certain way
for so long when they had Saucer. So what can
they figure out in a short amount of time to
you know, get to where they need to be. Because
I know they're right now, they're running like the Altar

(24:35):
cat Newcastle, So that really is kind of you know,
signaling that they got to look to play a more
zone versus like you know, trying to play edge or
even flex. So if they can get their spots in
zone and rotate very well, I think they'll be fine.
That's just been their biggest issue is that they really
haven't had those high placing games at all. I think
the highest place they had in their set this weekend

(24:57):
was sixth, So it'll be very inestome to see again.
I think they can figure it out. They're good enough
to figure it out. But like you said, there's only
so many opportunities left, so we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah, so that's where they sit currently. Need a little
bit of a bounce back from LG. The final thing
I have on this day, uh formerly Team Envy now
agg uh, I want you to guess did they get
fifth or sixth this week?

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Off the top of your head. Don't even look.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
I already looked.

Speaker 6 (25:28):
Like we won't have that up already.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
They got fifth this week, reliable trend. They continue the trend.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Hey, but I mean fifth is all day.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
I mean, if they're playing, I mean they're playing realistically,
like the point of flaying right now is the quall
for EWC slash the lag open and if they keep
on stacking those fifth and six is they're gonna be there.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Oh and we're gonna we're foreshadowing here because they actually
overachieved on Sunday. But yeah, so agg dropped in the boys.
They're cooking right now. They're cooking right now for sure.
Anything else on Saturday boys before we move into the
final day Sunday of the weekend. Anything you guys wanted
to point out, don I know you had omit play.

(26:12):
Did you want to say anything about Team O Mint.

Speaker 5 (26:15):
Yeah, I mean, I definitely think we had a lot
more positives. We had a pretty solid stormpoint E district
still kind of ends up being a struggle for us
just because of the lack of experience on the map.
So that's definitely one we're still trying to figure out.
And we're still in a pretty decent spot. We're just
outside the top twenty right now. I don't really have
any worries about getting at least another regional final. Honestly,

(26:38):
it would rather be you know, at least thirteen fourteenth
like that going into the regional final to make it
a little easier. But we're we're definitely talking through a
lot of things and trying to figure out some things
to hopefully play the district a little bit better, because
I think we feel pretty good with Stormpoint and it
seems like we found a POI that they're really comfortable
playing out of. It's just kind of figuring out what
we can do on e district and even with Broken Moon,

(26:59):
because Broke Moon it's just I don't even know.

Speaker 6 (27:01):
How to describe it.

Speaker 5 (27:02):
It's so hard to you know, figure out plans and
macro on that map just because it's so free. I mean, respectfully,
it's dog shit. I hate that's a comp but it's,
you know, it's what we have to play. It's what
we have to figure out. And obviously a lot of
other teams have figured it out, so we definitely have
to do the same. So I definitely think we'll we'll
definitely be looking pretty good. And like I said, we're
in a pretty good position where we have a double

(27:24):
block whereas a lot of teams are only going to
have a single block this weekend. So I think we're
in a pretty good position where we could probably play
a little bit more relaxed, whereas a lot of teams
really only have that one shot, so I feel pretty
good about it. I think we'll be fine to make
it in the regional finals. And again it's a matchpoint
regional finals, so you never know what can happen in
those situations. And yeah, well we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
I love that you said respectfully. That's nice, and then
follow it up with it's dog shit.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yeah it just can't you know, Yeah it is. I
love it. I love it to death.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
All right, boys, let's move on into so day here Sunday,
we had a great set as well, but this one
was odd.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
This was an odd one, ladies.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
You have the underdogs. When you look at the one,
look at the thing, it's like, what happened today? Yeah
it was if you were a top team, it was
not your day to have a day.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, it kind of And no disrespect to these teams,
but it does kind of look like the typical setup
of how these days usually go got flipped upside down
because we had Villainous as our winner. Shout out Villainous
as the winner of the day, and then we had
Koi second and our gie an agg overachieving baby no

(28:40):
longer fifth or sixth, were moving up to fourth, they
get fourth on the.

Speaker 6 (28:44):
Day, fifth, ninth.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Yeah, it's always that. It's always fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh,
eight or ninth and.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Shout out CTE and flat and fifth and six.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Let's go, let's go.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
That is like a top six that I that I
don't don't think that if you would asked literally anybody
to predict the top six for this set of games,
that they would have been able to list four out
of the five, I mean four out of the six,
I mean maybe even three out of the six.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
It respectfully, Again, it looks like you drew the names
out of a hat. Like that's that's kind of like
how it looks like. Again, these are all pro league teams,
so they obviously are all talented. But like I said,
just in terms of the expectations, when you have the
falcons that twisted pines up, you know, the Shopify is rock.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Central farrayah yeah, one hundred thieves Shopify. It's yeah, like yeah,
like it's this was not by any means a non
pro league lobby, right, like this is the lobbies, but
you know it was just these teams days they stepped up,
they showed everybody, and I think this is a day

(29:52):
that shows everybody that, like, yes, we have teams who
were like will consistently perform on the lower end of
the spectrum when it comes to Pro League, But that
by no means in any way, shape or form, means
that these that every single team that are like present
in these lobbies do not have like incredibly talented players

(30:15):
who when they find themselves in the right spots and
have like the right days, that they're going to be
able to capitalize and make it happen. Because all of
these teams have absolute shooters, and it's just a lot
of the times you just don't end up in the
right spots, you don't have the best of rotates. But
when you get the opportunity to actually have that, they
get to showcase that, hey, like we're here for a

(30:37):
reason and it's because we can win.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
Yeah, And I think that's what makes like Apex the
best Battle royale, right, because you've got twenty teams that
there could be so many storylines that get built just
because of a zone poll or a rotate that one
team decided to do, or one fight that got taken
in the wrong spot. Like, there's just so many things
that can happen in a Pro League Day, and I
think that's you know, that's why we keep coming back
every week right, Like it's you never know what's gonna happen.

(31:02):
Obviously we have our expectations, but you see stuff like
this and it's like, damn man, like this is this
is why we come watch every weekend.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yeah, now down, I'm not gonna I'm gonna be honest
with you. I don't know a whole lot about Villainous.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
If you, I know, you did the guide on on
all the teams for the Open, can you talk a
little bit about Villainous here.

Speaker 6 (31:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
So they came in they had qualified through the PSQS,
so that would qualify them into Pro League and to
the Open. I know they didn't have the greatest of
league performances at the Open.

Speaker 6 (31:34):
I would have to go back and.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
Look, but I mean they came in as no name
and then had their name switched to Spector Esports and
then switched to Villainous, So some people might have lost
you know who this team was throughout all of that.
But it's three players from South America and excuse me,
one from Mexico or two from Mexico and then one
from South America on their coach. It's it's Zany, big

(31:57):
shout out to him, somebody that I looked to for
a lot of resources and stuff.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
In the past.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
So yeah, they just it's just one of those things
again where you take advantage opportunities that are given to you.
And like I said, I didn't get a chance to
watch too much of their specific POV because again, I
don't think anybody really expected them to pop off. But
I mean they they had a couple of really good games,
like game six, they had a fourteen point game even

(32:21):
Game four they had eleven points. They had a fourteen
point game two. It was just a pretty solid day overall.
And again, you keep putting yourself in the right positions
and build enough points over time. I mean, I think
when I'm looking through this, I think they had one
game maybe outside like the top four or five.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
So yeah, they only have one game outside the top five.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
They're game one, fourth, game two second or game two
second game four to third game five to fourth game
six seconds. So like they didn't even win a game
on this day, but they were always in the top
five except for Game three. That was the only time
they did not make the top five. And that's gonna
get you points no matter or what.

Speaker 6 (33:00):
Yep, and big shout out too. I think it's chicks.
I think it's how you say it. I believed he.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
Had top frag or at least was tied in kills,
and I know he was up for he was the
player of the region for the week, and I believe
he's up for Like it's the competitive Apex thing that
they do. They could do a voting for who was
the player of the week for across the entire ALGs,
So big shout out to them. He played amazing. He
had fourteen kills, five k damage and yeah, like you hinted,

(33:29):
that just really really consistent day. And when you do that,
you're always gonna be in the spot to get grab
a top three or four, and just so happened with
how crazy the loty.

Speaker 6 (33:39):
Ended up being.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
You know, sixty points was able to win win you
the match day. So big shout out to those guys.
I definitely deserved it with the way they played.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Now, the only other thing that I had about the
particular top four here was that agg get a twenty
two kill game one, and if you watch how they
fought in that game, it was so impressive the entire time.

(34:07):
I mean, Zap was going absolutely insane with the devotion,
putting a devotion in Zap's hands.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
I think I could play the game for.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Five years every day, eight hours a day, and Zap
couldn't play at once, and he would still beat my
ass with it. If we like met up after the
five years, I still think he would beat my ass.
He's so good with that thing. I mean, a lot
a lot of these guys are, they're pro, they're all
gonna be good with it. He is exceptional. And I
mean they once again, usually they get fifth or sixth

(34:40):
the day they move up to fourth. That's a win
in their book, that's a win in my book. I
count that as a w and they just popped off
on this day. I will say this though, I do
feel kind of sad that they did get a twenty
two kill win and then still didn't get first. I
think that's kind of that sucks a little bit. But
other than that, overall, back to back good performance for
performances from agg all the matters is qualifying for this

(35:04):
land and getting a fifth place in a fourth place
back to back on the weekend, you're setting yourself up
for a pretty solid run near the end there.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Did you guys have anything else on any of the
top four?

Speaker 5 (35:17):
Yeah, I was just gonna say specifically with them with
that Game one win, they pulled out the Sparrow early,
which that was what Skittle Cakes was playing early on,
and it was definitely really interesting sing because Sparrow is
not really a character that gets played necessarily out of
the gate, So to see them come out and have
that success pretty early on, it's definitely really impressive. And again,
if there's really, you know, if there's a small list

(35:37):
of players that could really play any character and maximize it,
Skittle Cakes is definitely on that list. So it's not
a surprise that you could pop off like that. Because
he had nine kills and twenty seven hundred damage, Zapp
on Altar had ten kills and twenty one hundred damage.
They had eight k damage as a team, which I
think combined was more than like three or four teams
that followed them. So it was pretty impressive win to

(35:59):
say the least. I know, I wanted to focus just
real quick on Movie Star Cooy. They had been struggling
going into this week. I believe they were outside the
top twenty to even make the regional finals, and they
come out and get a second place, which is really impressive,
especially because they kind of they struggled with the open.
I believe they'd finished outside even like the top eighty,

(36:21):
and then to come and they've had a couple of
rough weeks of Pro League and for them to bounce
back get the second place, they vault up the standings
into tenth place. Definitely a huge week for them. That's
fun scene, which again fun. Anybody in the apexcene knows
how good a guy he is, so it's really good
to see.

Speaker 6 (36:37):
Them play well.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
And again with blinksare really get the recognition of how
much he's stepped up as an igl and Jelly as
well on that team. Just really cool to see another
really cool storyline that came out of today. And we'll
see if they can pack that up or if it's
just ends up being kind of a pop off week.
But definitely, I mean being able to jump up to tenth,
I mean, that's a hell of a week to lease.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Should we start to take that Jamo needs to replace knocked,
Should we stream that.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
I would not personally.

Speaker 6 (37:10):
Take that take and see how that goes well.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
I'm just saying I mean twelfth place, second place, you.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Know that they're getting there, like low Key in the
in the team chats like given Knock ship for like
way longer than Knock wants to be getting the ship for.

Speaker 5 (37:31):
Yeah, I'm curious because that seems like a thing to
do before we move.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Dude, movie star Koy m koy with this second place,
Absolutely love to see it with that boy Fun fine
fbst drop in ten.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
I think Fun is like, individually like one of the
best players.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
In the league, and to see him and his team
have a day that that genuinely reflects that I love
to see. And this is a team that like they
like they got grit, Like in one of the end
games that I was watching, there was a multiple different
points where they had two man knocks and it wasn't
always the same two guys, but they were able to

(38:12):
hold on, get the reses and make like something out
of that end game and you just love to see it.
And I think that this is a team that, while
they might not have had the best pro league up
to this point, is definitely a team that you want
to keep an eye on for like a potential underdog story.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Yeah, and I think I think there's a few teams
in that position down similar to like with Omit, where
it's like all we want to do is be able
to get ourselves into that regional final. If we can
just be in the position for the regional final, anything
can happen. And I think this day like shows that
more than any other day. We have Villainous winning the day.
You have Team Falcons down there at seventh. That's exactly

(38:50):
why you just want to get yourself into that position
because anything can happen. All these players are really really
good and it can change the outcome just be in
that top twenty. So that's kind of it's one of
those situations where you never know, just get yourself in
that spot.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
That's all you're looking for here.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Now. Obviously you'd want to qualify just and not have
to worry about that, but you know, you just take
what you can get.

Speaker 5 (39:15):
Yeah, and I'll say too, like right now, especially if
like a movie Star Koy or any of these other
teams that are kind of in the middle of the pack.
We we saw a Koy again, they jump up to tenth,
get to sixty points where they had had like I
think it was thirty nine or something. Before that, so
again a huge fault for them. But you look at
the standings right now again Top sixteen barn eighth. Any

(39:35):
crazy winner in regional finals. Top sixteen gets you to
EWC for fifteenth right now is Team Orchid with forty
three points. Fusion is also tied with them at forty
three points in the sixteenth spot. If you go all
the way down to LG at twenty fourth has thirty
three points, So you're talking about fifteenth through twenty fourth

(39:55):
is all within ten points of each other. And obviously
a match day gets you to match day one gives
you twenty five points second place twenty one. So like
any one of those teams that has a pop off
day has the ability to jump so far up the
standings to get into those qualifying spots. Right now, it's
there's so much to play for with you know, this
last week coming up in the regional finals. It's I
I couldn't even tell you what the predicted cutoff is.

(40:18):
Like me and Jabe and trying to crunch numbers and
figure some stuff out, and it's it's gonna be an
absolute wild card shootout to try to figure out who
ends up getting these last few spots because it is Yeah,
it's gonna be chaos, It's gonna be yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
That's why, like these performances are so big, because if
you look at movie Star Koy the last two days
before this one four and nine points respectively, and then
you're sitting there looking at your your scoreesheet and you're like,
I don't know what's gonna happen here, then you just
pop off with the twenty one.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
You get the twenty one.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
It changes the entire outlook and you look like we
talked about this team last week, if we if we
had like mentioned them at all, you talk about movie
Star Corey, you like, I don't know, dude, like and
then one day changes everything. It changes everything for them
moving forward. So big shout out to Movie Star Cooy
for that. I brought up Furia a little bit. I

(41:08):
did want to bring up really quickly. I was pulling
up the match real quick.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
I did want to bring up something that I thought
was really funny.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
I saw this tweet from how on that day he said,
I don't know anymore, and I look up the standings
and they got seventh.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
I could have swore from that tweet they would have
got like eighteenth.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
But that just shows the competitive nature of Imperial how
and then the funniest part was Timmy replied under the
tweet with all of his championships just screenshotted, and then
he says, can't live in the past. That's where Hal's
headspace is at, in case you were wondering his headspace
is at. Yeah, I have won a lot of times,
but I got seventh on one day of Pro League

(41:57):
that I'm leading in and you know, not happy with it,
not happy with it at all.

Speaker 5 (42:04):
Yeah, I mean I think that's just the you know,
the championship mentality that guy has.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
It.

Speaker 6 (42:08):
You know, could feel a little a.

Speaker 5 (42:09):
Little over exaggerated at times, because again it's like, bro,
you got seventh. There's a lot of teams that are
begging for a seventh place start now just based on
the points. But yeah, like you said, that's just the
mentality he has. He always wants to be first at everything.
You know, Zero waal T Drogger all the same way.
So seventh place definitely feels like the potential end of
the world. But again, you just talk about how high

(42:33):
their floor is that if they're finishing seventh, and that
feels like the end of the world. I mean, we
all know what this roster can do, and it would
not surprise me if they came out and just absolutely
obliterated the lobby on Saturday. But yeah, well we'll obviously
keep seeing what happens with them again. It just it
just seems like there's these small, sloppy mistakes that you
don't typically see. But per League is also just very

(42:55):
different from Land, where there's a lot more variables of
teams that don't necessarily have the Land experience that may
throw some brenches into kind of your game plan and
how things work, especially with the legend bands from week
to week. I mean, we saw this week it was
a lot more like assault characters they were getting banned,
and so it's yeah, it's always something different each week.
And you know, again, if you're bad weeks or seventh

(43:17):
place again, most people I think will be okay with that.

Speaker 6 (43:20):
But which is how their mentality is.

Speaker 5 (43:23):
It is I'm a little a little afraid about what
we might see on Saturday when we're in the same
lobby as them, So we're gonna maybe want to stay
out of their way with how pissed off they might
be right now.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
So we'll see yeah, and just looking at I think
it's a good time to move into overall standings here
as we get through everything. I apologize Falcons is not
first right now, they're actually third, But there is a
big gap between I would say fourth and kind of
the rest of the lobby here because all agg they're

(43:54):
sitting at seventy one points, Falcons is at seventy nine,
and then after that fourth place position it goes sixty four,
sixty four, sixty two, sixty one, sixty and so forth.
So it's like very tight in that fifth to like
twelfth region, and even beyond that, like Donnie said earlier,
if you go down to like sixteenth, there's a lot

(44:14):
that can change in the upcoming weeks that some teams
are really going to need to have a pop up
day and you're gonna see some fade out into into oblivion.
So that's where we sit currently in NA in the
America's region as the overall standings here after these this
weekend's games. Now, don you did mention a very good point.

(44:36):
Some of these teams are going to have just they're
not gonna have the same amount of sets, so there's
gonna be a little bit more added pressure here and
they got to figure out.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
What they need to do moving forward. But that is
where we are at currently in NA.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Did you guys have anything else you wanted to talk
about from the standings before we move into the interview
with Waltz.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (44:56):
I was just gonna say this is a quick reminder
for people, no matter where of five falcons or one
hundred thieves finish, they are qualified for you TOBC no
matter what. So some people might see one hundred thieves
at eleventh and be like, oh, like should they be
worried about qualifying or this or that or whatever. Again,
they've had some kind of a couple rough back to
back weeks, which just again it just kind of seems

(45:17):
like they're chemistry where they try to take fights. It's
definitely out of sync right now. I think all three
are so used to being vocal that they don't necessarily
have the ability to step back at times when it
really needs to be just phony making a call. Because
they're all so smart, right, they're all the best, some
of the best players we have in the game. But
sometimes when you get the best players together, it may

(45:38):
not be the best team at times because who can
kind of take that dial it back to maybe not
calm as much or kind of not be the guy,
or whatever the case is, you know, depending on the team.
So again, I think it's gonna be a team. They'll
figure it out eventually, because they obviously just got fourth.

Speaker 6 (45:53):
In the land.

Speaker 5 (45:54):
But no matter where they finish at again, to finish
my point, they can finish out Tide the top six team.

Speaker 6 (46:00):
They're so qualified.

Speaker 5 (46:01):
So it'll be really interesting to see kind of the
dynamics of how those three teams treat the rest of
Pro League, because I know, even for like our draft strategy,
there is a potential that we would have been between
one hundred Thieves and Shopify, and I was like, there's
no way I'm going between two teams that could do
whatever the fuck they want and just throw anybody else's day.
So it'll be really interesting to see if they kind

(46:22):
of take these last few weeks of Pro League to
kind of just figure some things out and maybe not
necessarily focus on the placement, just because again they're already
auto called, so it doesn't really matter where they finish,
so really it's just up to everybody else around those
teams to figure out who can get inside that top
sixteen and qualify free WC.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Yeah, and like we mentioned too, there is also last
week Don had mentioned after Saturday, all teams are going
to have played the same amount of sets now that
is offset, so there are some teams that are a
little bit lower on this list who just haven't played
that extra set, so keep that in mind as well.
A lot could change after this upcoming weekend. So boys,

(46:59):
I think that I actually just about do it for na.
Don't forget if you want to stick around and listen
to your region, whatever region you are in. Me and
Don are going to go over it in the regional
roundup after the interview. But ladies and gents, it's time
to send it on down to Waltsey. He's awesome, man,
So another great time with Waltzy. It's always interesting talking
to him because at first he kind of starts off slow,

(47:20):
but by the end of it he's just he's letting
it all fly.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
And that's just the way he operates, man, That's how
he is. But he's awesome.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
And we interviewed him very early in the shows like
time and when he was still in Apax South and
to finally see him, you know, win and get that
championship that he deserved. It was awesome to see from
all of us and we got to witness it up
close and personal. So let's send it on down to
Waltsea and then on the other side the regional roundup.

(47:47):
All right, ladies and gents, we have a very special
guest on here today for the third time on the
Apex the podcast, and for the first time ever as
a champion. We've got on Waltsey from Falkins. Walt, it
was a crazy ride, but you finally got there. How
does it feel to finally be nd be able to
call yourself a champion?

Speaker 7 (48:09):
Uh? Ship broh, that's good. That's good. It's not enough,
but it's good.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
There you go, there you go.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
That's I mean, what in your eyes would be enough?

Speaker 7 (48:19):
I don't know. I actually don't know you like like
you like? I mean, that land just doesn't feel like
it was like a doesn't feel like it was like
solidified enough. I guess for me, i'd rather like I'd
want to do it like again, but like in a
more difficult situation. I guess think that land was like
not that that land like was like by any means,

(48:41):
like not a real land, but it was just like
I don't know that proper, just that that win was
like it was like it was like pretty free. I
guess that's just like how it works though, like sometimes
like you know, wins like really fucking like sorry, they're
just like really free. And like Land finals were seen
it before, like Racist Champs win was like like pready
fraid just that party is the last fight sort of thing.

(49:01):
So but I don't know, I kind of want to
do it in a sense where like we actually have
to like really fight for that win sort of thing.

Speaker 9 (49:09):
Yeah, you exactly, kind of like I don't know, just
like a few like those other lands. But like the
thing with Apex is I feel like, say like it
was just a normal set day. Sometimes your wins are
just like simple, like if you're playing good Apex, that's
just like realistically how they should be, right Yeah.

Speaker 7 (49:24):
Yeah, I mean it's just like I don't know, man,
we could like maybe maybe we like win aws and
it was like some really like difficult task and I'll
still sit there and maybe I just still feel the
same way. I'm not too sure, like the passions like
still that I still want to win. It's just like
I would have thought like winning would have been like enough,
but now it's just like all right, we're just gonna
like do it again sort of thing.

Speaker 9 (49:45):
I was saying to the guys before the pod started.
I was like, Yeah, the funny thing is, whenever I
see pros of these lands, I try my best not
to distract them too much, not to talk to them
too much, because I'm like they especially when you guys
are mid set, like in the pit over there, like
you guys are probably locked I'm like, I'll see them
in the in the bathroom, say hi by, and then
that's it. I go, But all of them will continue
conversations with me and want to chat. I go Waltz.

(50:07):
He was the only guy who was talking to me,
and he said, Okay, man, I gotta go get locked in,
gotta go. And then you just left because like you're
just funneled in at all times on the game.

Speaker 7 (50:16):
Yeah, I mean, especially if I've had like a bad set,
Like if I've had a bad set, I really want
to talk to anyone. I kind of just want to
like look in and so like bluck everything out. I'm
not like a big, super big toker.

Speaker 9 (50:25):
I guess. Yeah. I think it was after just like
that not too long after that second set where you
guys dropped into losers.

Speaker 7 (50:33):
Yeah, probably would have been.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
How big of an impact do you think our fist
bump had pre finals made on.

Speaker 7 (50:43):
On the day generational?

Speaker 4 (50:44):
Did I say we're one for one on fist bump Winds?

Speaker 7 (50:51):
But then there's a few people that came that like
I've never seen it lan before, like you included, and
like just like straight up one for one. It's like
some lucky Chileng's that I left, fucking I needed the
next one.

Speaker 9 (51:03):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
We'll have to get you knock there.

Speaker 9 (51:06):
You gotta get up to Saudi now, that'll be big.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
I think one of my questions was I was gonna ask, like, uh,
you know, when I'm sitting in the crowd and me
and he are like sitting next to each other, and
we're both kind of conversing like, Okay, this looks like
an easy win for Falcons here, and you guys kind
of made it look that way, and then we're both
talking to each other like dude, we're really excited for Walt.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
I can't wait to see this pop off. And then
the game ends and you kind of just like reach over.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
I think you grab your water like you take a sip,
and I was like, why no celebration, But after that
explanation at the beginning of the pot, I feel like
that makes a little bit of sense.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
You kind of just didn't feel like it deserved that celebration.

Speaker 7 (51:43):
I've like said it, uh, like what I spoke to Jayhawk,
Playing with Reese is like a bit of like a
roller coaster in terms of like obc, Like you guys
get to see you when he's like screaming at me,
and he'll sit there and he'll tell you that like
you know, he's the perfect player in the game and
everyone's like bad and you have to like suffer through

(52:04):
those moments. But then you get to land right and
maybe groups or like winners, you know, like Elan Brackett whatever.
Maybe he's not like you know, playing to his absolute
like perfect best, but he's still doing it enough that
like we should always just you know sort of like
win everything. But we get to finals and that's when

(52:24):
it really feels like, like, holy shit, this guy just
gaps everyone. Like our champs run in finals should have
been like a hundred points, our open run should have
been a hundred points. Like he makes the game sort
of to the point where it's like, oh, so, like
all I have to do is just not just not
mess up. I just have to just not be shit,
you know what I mean. Like it is obviously is

(52:46):
like as gross as it is to sit there and
glaze the guy, but it's just it is as simple
as that. It's like I kind of won, and I
was like, wow, that was like not hard at all.
That like that was actually kind of like a little
bit underwhelming. And I think it's just because it's playing
with race.

Speaker 9 (53:03):
That's interesting because a Champs we had to do that
whole video, which all apologize right now for those scripted
lines we made you do, but so we did. We
were doing those that video and at the time you
were switching on me and Jay and you're like, no,
how's the best in the game, Like I thought it
was zero and now it's just it's how But now

(53:25):
you're saying this that zero is making your game so easy?
Has your opinion once changed again? Is it this that
you're playing with these guys?

Speaker 7 (53:31):
I told you at the time, Flip a coin is
what I told you. Flip a coin like it like,
and I said to you, like the best way and
like my opinion hasn't changed. Like the best way I
can describe it is like how as an individual player,
I think like has and and even like stats wise,
you'll say, like he has like the highest impact. He

(53:53):
he has good stats, he has like insane impact. He's
a very good individual player. He's like top two. It's
like him and Race right, just like him resents. I know,
like the three players that I look at and I'm like,
they have unreal impact that like maybe casuals or like
other pros, like you know, I feel like you have
to have a really good understanding of the game to
understand like how good their impact is, even though like

(54:15):
obviously everyone knows how good there's like these guys are,
but yeah, how definitely best like individual like top two,
and then Reese is just by far and above like
the best idea, Like it's not remotely close in my opinion.

Speaker 9 (54:28):
Yeah, and it's pretty I'd imagine it's pretty bizarre to
be like just like the third of that team and
getting to witness at every game like that. It is
that difficult of a conversation.

Speaker 7 (54:36):
Yeah, I mean, being the third of these two is
like I don't think I don't think it like by
any means is like, uh that I don't know how
to describe it, like a like I don't appreciate them,
I guess, you know what I mean. Like I definitely
sit there and I'm like I watch Reese and like
he'll just be doing like I mean, I don't know
if you Watchcrims today, like just like one v three's Liquid,

(54:57):
you know, three roller players that have been around a
long time, and it's just like you sit there and
you're like, holy shit, like that was insane. You'll watch
how just randomly plant his fate in the middle of
the open because he's weird, and he'll just crank out
like four hundred average on a team, you know what
I mean. Like it's just like you see that shit
like quite often from my PIV and it's just like
it is. It is a little bit like a little

(55:18):
bit strange to watch after like pursing them for so long.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Yeah, and it's it's the last time we talked to you.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
It was interesting because we I think it was right before,
not make sure exactly which tournament was right before, but
you were still on Moist at the time, and then
right after this you go over and make that big
jump to Falcons and I gotta I gotta think like
these are the two these would be the situations you
wanted to put yourself in. And even though it's had
its ups and downs, that was the move. Can you

(55:46):
can you kind of walk through just that move from
Moist to Falcons, like how difficult it was for you
at the time, and and kind of walk us through
that process.

Speaker 7 (55:55):
Uh. I think everyone, I think everyone like kind of
for the most part, like understood how how hard that
was for me because I, like, I like it was
very much ready to like finish my career of APEX
with Moist whenever that was you know what I mean,
Like I was, like I said to them the whole time,
like that was like my end goal, Like I didn't
really want to play for anyone else. Still still to

(56:17):
this day, like they're just by far the best people
that I've like ever like worked with, like Charlie, Matt
Daddy just like the owners and whatnot. They've just they
took very good care of me sort of like at
every point where I needed to make a change or
we needed anything, they were just fully supportive. Like you
guys remember the visa situation, same thing, Like they would

(56:40):
pretty much move mountains to make it happen. So that
was definitely insanely difficult, you know, but obviously it's like
all worth it, all paid off sort of thing. And
then leaving Guild, especially because me and Guild were a
very good duo and I love playing with Guild. Guild's
a amazing teammate, so that part was also very differ cool.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
To me.

Speaker 7 (57:03):
To me also a very good teamate, not throwing any
shade at him, just like we went together for anywhere
near as long as what I was with Guild, you
know what I mean. So it was just like all
of that together was definitely like a very difficult situation,
but it was like kind of like I know I
can win if I play with recent hell, Like that's
just like no question in the back of my head.
And you know, second four points at Champs, first for points,

(57:26):
then won this land, you know what I mean. It's
like kind of can't look back and regret to at all.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Now moving over into just the open and everything that
happened with that event. Obviously the finals was from a
from a viewing perspective, you could obviously see that there
was like a difference in skill from like the finals
we've had in the past, and we knew that there
was a chance that this could happen because there was
so many other teams joining in and there's bound to
be some stories like Twlcaholics where they kind of made

(57:53):
a push all the way through, and that's what we got,
you know, we had some of those easier lobbies. But
talking to how last week, we talked a little bit
about how although that finals might have felt great, that
entire journey from start to finish was number one, incredible
to watch, but also probably very tiring from your guys's perspective,
and uh, just rough all the way around. Can you

(58:15):
kind of walk us through, like from your side of
the story, like how it was being inside the pit,
being on inside that like small little stage where everybody's
kind of watching you and trying to make it through
that elimination bracket try to get back to winners.

Speaker 7 (58:29):
Uh. I don't think we touched the pit. You know,
we didn't touch the pit. We were either permanently on
monkey box or main stage. So I'm glad that we
didn't have to touch the pit because all I had
was like bad stories about like like DC's and people's
like equipment like not working and you being able to
hear the person right across from you. So I'm definitely
glad I didn't have to experience that, But yeah, I

(58:51):
don't know ment for me, that tournament could have been
ten times easier if I just was more like more
locked in for like two of them games in like
one of our groups, Like I genuinely like just I
cost us really bad in like at an easy like
twenty to thirty point game in the bracket where we
where we dropped out of like winners. So that was

(59:13):
like definitely insanely frustrating. And then we had to play like.

Speaker 9 (59:17):
Thirty six games.

Speaker 7 (59:18):
Thirty six yeah, yeah, thirty six in two and we
had like that one day where we had like the
hour the hour, yeah, like restart where we just sat
there for an hour straight while they were trying to
fix someone's PC and then they ended up restarting the game.
And it was just like I've said it before, I
had ten hours sleep across like the entire tournament. So
that was like just not fun at all, Like it

(59:41):
was just like miserable.

Speaker 9 (59:42):
Yeah, even your post like win like interview, you're like
I don't even know where I am right now, Like
I didn't even know where this was finals, Like you
said something like that, because like.

Speaker 7 (59:54):
Like Kyle had to like so when like we won
and I've immediately got up, I was like I was
just like dumbfounded, like like what did I just play?

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Bro?

Speaker 7 (01:00:02):
Like the whole three days just felt like an actual blur,
Like it was just like so many games of just
like I don't know, I think legend bands plays a
really big part in the quality of that tournament. Like
I think like obviously there was like some some new teams,
some bad teams in finals, but I think legend bands
made the quality of that tournament a lot worse than

(01:00:23):
people like understand. Even watching scrims at the moment, you'll
see like people will be running like weird comps, or
they'll just be playing sort of like insanely different to
how they play on game day. I'm gonna throw m
quey in there and just say, those guys are absolute
scrim terrorists. Man. Those guys just run it down like
it is it is just something. And then like when

(01:00:45):
you have legend bands and you have like PI Draft,
I think it's just like a lot for teams who
just aren't that sort of established and that experience. So
I'll be very interested to see like this next lane
and see if the quality is like that much better.
I think it'll be better, but I don't think it's
gonna be like I don't think it's gonna be not
in day difference. I think you will see games where
we are gonna have like some some sort of like

(01:01:07):
bad quality just purely because of like legend bands and
stuff like that.

Speaker 9 (01:01:10):
Well, especially considering I'm just gonna say this real quick,
like with EWC, it's gonna be ten game sets in groups,
and are they planning on doing ten game set scrims
leading up to that, because like, you guys have never
had a situation where you need to figure out those
last four bands that you're gonna have to do. You've
only had six up into this point. Like even with

(01:01:30):
the Open, we didn't get something that was deep.

Speaker 7 (01:01:32):
Yeah, I'm honestly no show, I have no idea. I'm
I'm just sort of dreading those scrims because scrims before
the Open would absolutely just terrible. It was just like, yeah,
genuinely some of the West scrims I've played. So I'm
gonna snow at your.

Speaker 9 (01:01:47):
Show I'm just imagining if you're talking about like the
skill gap, Yeah, where the better teams are, you know,
finding themselves ahead because they can adapt across all these
different you know, compositions compared to the teams that don't
have that experience. How that gap is going to extend
even more when you get into the final four games
and there's guys who have been playing characters and compositions
they have zero experience on. So, yeah, I hope the

(01:02:09):
EDBS can match.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Yeah, And what I was going to add was with that,
with with you talking about the legend bands, would you
say that you're not really in favor of the legend
bands or do you think just because it was those
teams that are more inexperience that kind of made it
not as fun of a transition from having no legend
bands last tournament to now.

Speaker 7 (01:02:29):
I think I like legend bands. I think I would
prefer it to be maybe like a vote system. Still,
I don't think I really like the whole whatever's most played.
I think it's like a pretty bad system. Although in
saying that I don't hate it, I'm not like super
against it. I just think it could be sort of
like tweaked to be a bit better sort of thing. Okay,

(01:02:51):
but yeah, yeah, as for what I said, like what
I want, Yeah, I forgot to say, but yeah, Kyle,
like I picked up my controller and started like packing
up my controller for my next set. Actually, like I
picked up my controller like pulled out the cord and
then like started like packing my stuff up. And then
Kyle was like what are you doing? And I was like, bro,
like I didn't even know what I'm doing. I just
put myself down and I was like yeah, I was like, oh,
it's over, like we've won. But it was like it

(01:03:12):
was like it was actually like a really weird situation
for me because I was actually just like just the
entire time like like I don't know what the hell's
going on. Like I'm just I'm just playing.

Speaker 9 (01:03:21):
Were you also ripping the red bull or you avoided? Okay,
you're ripping the Red Bulls?

Speaker 7 (01:03:25):
No, I'm bad for caffeine. I had like a couple
I have like a couple of like those those like
sugar free white Monsters, Like I was having like three
of those a day to try and just like stay awake.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
Yeah, how do you give? How do you get by
on ten hours of sleep. You said ten hours across
the entire time, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Yeah, so what did that look like?

Speaker 4 (01:03:43):
And just like I would not be able to function, bro, Yeah,
but you had the.

Speaker 7 (01:03:48):
We had the first day like first day, I got
like three hours, and then like played like the second day,
and then I think I had like kind of like
because it was a three day tournament, right, not four day?
Was it for I can remember? Okay? So first day no, Yeah,
first day I think I got like like a like

(01:04:10):
three hours, and then second day like maybe like another
like three, and then like the third day was like
like another like four. It was like it was like
really just like like three four hours was like what
I was getting by, And it was just because like
so much caffeine. And then I sit there and I
think about the games I do every lane Usually it's
not that bad. This land was like really bad. I
was like kind of just in my head a lot,

(01:04:30):
so I just couldn't really sleep. I was just sitting
there just like one of those moments where you just
stand up at the ceiling just like overthinking, like everything
that's going on, Well.

Speaker 9 (01:04:38):
It makes sense you guys are getting at eleven am
or eleven pm. And then had to get there basically
by like eight nine am the next day, Like you said,
like you got to unwind. I can't even imagine you
guys had to eat or anything like that. Yeah, you're
not gonna get like a lot of sleep, and even
if you do, it's not gonna be great quality. It's
one of the biggest things. Like I've even talked to
some of the people behind the scenes now and basically
was like, yeah, if this ever happens again, there ap

(01:05:00):
has to be one more day. Like you can't put
the players through that. It's kind of crazy and they
absolutely agree with that too. Obviously budget comes into issues,
but it's just if you're gonna run a tournament like that,
you can't have it. It's it's not fair to the players.

Speaker 7 (01:05:13):
Yeah, it was definitely like just not fun in terms
of just like too many games, not enough time, like
not enough like time to eat, sleep, just wine down,
like we're trying to like I think, how's like trying
to eat on stage. At some point, like they told
him you can't have it on stage. He's got to
like get rid of it, can't eat it there. So yeah,
and you have to draft too. It's like you have

(01:05:33):
to stay behind to draft. It's not like when you
finish your games you can just like leave. You have
to draft like you next set, you know what I mean.
So it's just like, yeah, just just too much.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
I can't imagine having you sit there for those drafts
after you just played a set and you're so tired
and you gotta just sit there and just wait for
all these picks.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
I can't even imagine that. Like that just seems like
a nightmare, like hell on Earth trying to wait for that.

Speaker 7 (01:05:53):
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. Definitely a situation where if
they're gonna do it again, needs to just be like
better played.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Yeah, no, one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
And I feel like, and I mean you could correct
me if I'm wrong here, but I feel like you
would have a specific regiment in life in general, but
also when it comes to like lands and situations like that.
And this probably made it almost impossible to have any
sort of like regiment whatsoever with the amount of time
you had.

Speaker 7 (01:06:19):
Uh, Like to a degree, I'm like more I'm more
chill when it comes to land, Like I kind of
just like try and make sure I'm just in my
room sort of like at least like just even if
I'm just chilling in bed, but I just try to
make sure I'm like in there, like it's whenever we finish,
just like kind of like straight away, so that I'm
just like sort of letting my brain but like wind down.

(01:06:40):
I'm not too focused on Jim because like during land time,
I kind of just let that be like my little
break between because like you're supposed to have like breaks
from Jym, So I just use that as like my
time to like have like a break and just chill out.
So I definitely try and do the opposite, like try
and be a lot more like relaxed and not like
force myself into anything.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Now, I asked how about this, and he actually said
he didn't mind it that much.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
How did you like what you referred to as the
monkey box, like that that stage up in the front
where you're just everybody's just sitting there and watching you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Did you like that that situation?

Speaker 7 (01:07:12):
It's like a little bit, uh is it like daunting?
Daunting the word I'm looking for. It's like it's just
it's weird to look up from my monitor and see
someone like standing like a meter away from me.

Speaker 9 (01:07:24):
Yeah, they were really close. They let them get close
in there.

Speaker 7 (01:07:27):
Yeah, I like didn't. I definitely didn't hate it. But
it's just like, uh, anyone who anyone who like lives
with me and knows me. I hate people like sort
of like being close to me while I'm playing, like
especially like standing around me. But like that wasn't so
bad if they were behind me, though, I think it
would have been much more if Yeah, if they were
able to stand behind me, I like would have been

(01:07:48):
way more uncomfortable. I don't like people like standing behind
me while I'm playing. It like kind of like trips
me out. I don't know what it is, but I didn't.
I didn't mind it. I think I think it was
like a good idea. I think the like the viewers especially,
I think they liked it. So it was it was chill.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Yeah, No, it was cool to watch, like getting to
watch some of the other teams and they usually put
higher profile teams up on the stage so you can
kind of see, you know, players you see all the
time on stream or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
It was really cool.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
But transitioning away from just the open and everything with that,
there was a transition period from when you move over
to Moist and you go over to Falcons.

Speaker 9 (01:08:23):
In I think it was like with BLGs, there was
like some identity issues like before Champs, like you guys
didn't have like that newcastle, and then how finally started
getting comfortable on Newcastle once you guys running the ghibbee
Newcastle a rampart sort of camp there, and then that's
what kind of like seemed to form together in Japan.
I think that's what I was saying, like in that

(01:08:44):
period of time where it was like almost you guys
could figure out that composition, who was gonna be on?
What is even there like a little bit before you
got there.

Speaker 7 (01:08:53):
I don't know, bro, Like for me, it's like it's
like weird to say, right, I'm not I'm not like
some full time five tied LAMB champion, But I do
I do believe there is just people without naming names, Bro,
that just when it comes to online, they just like
they will just do things that they would never do
when there's more on the line than just like quote

(01:09:13):
like well it wasn't even calling for land. It was
a what twenty k first prize pool for Bilgi or
something like that. So it's like when there's like nothing
on the line, I feel like people were just sort
of running around and doing things that they wouldn't like
usually do, and that Metal was just like insanely insanely
like bad for I guess like teams like ours where

(01:09:35):
we didn't really have a hard support player at the time,
you know. I just came from top pragging Germany, like
the whole land, and so I was like under the
impression that I was coming in to sort of frag.
Then I got moved to like support, so it was
just like there's definitely a case of I don't know,

(01:09:55):
I like what I thought I was coming in to
do was not what I ended up doing sort of thing,
like because before I joined, like the complaint was like
that nobody was like running around and like happy to
just eight people with Reese or like four ree sort
of thing, and that's why like they did bad sort
of thing. And then I don't know, I joined, and

(01:10:15):
then sort of it was just really awkward Me and
how would both be not watching the back. We'd die
in the back, you know what I mean. It was
just like very very awkward. So it eventually got to
the point where I played rampart and I just planted
my feet and just was always watching the back and
sort of like figured out ourselves out there. But I
think it was definitely a case of quality, like teams

(01:10:36):
just doing things that don't usually do because it's online
and there's not a lot on the line during that period.
And then obviously like three super individual players trying to
figure out how to play as a team. I mean, like,
obviously it's not on Reese to figure out how to
play around Reese. It's on me and How. And I
think that was just like where the issue was. It
was like me and How trying to figure out who

(01:10:58):
needs to do what in order for it to work.

Speaker 9 (01:11:01):
Yeah, even kind of post Japan like it similarly happened
like once you guys dropped the Gibbie because obviously not
as viable anymore. Now you're playing more crypto and comps
suddenly like you're playing Newcastle. I know today I saw
how I was playing Newcastle again a little bit right what.
I was watching a stream he was on Newcastle last game.

Speaker 7 (01:11:19):
No, yes, but just don't don't take today. Don't take
today for anything, like we're loading in. I was supposed
to play Newcastle. I was afk. So he picks Newcastle
and they were just like Okay, so he just played
Newcastle for like the last two games. Yeah, I'm I'm
Newcastle player, crypto player, just anything that's kind of just

(01:11:40):
like support watch the back res sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
It's just like.

Speaker 7 (01:11:46):
As pretty much just as supporter as I could possibly
but you couldn't put me on any any two worse
characters for like sort of anchoring and sort of like
doing the boring jobs. But post post Japan, I think
it's like the same as this land man, like we've
come back, We've just one land. I don't know how
to describe what the vibes are at the moment, but

(01:12:07):
they're not like I don't know, I really I really
can't describe how I think we were thinking at the
moment other than like we're just not And it's not
me blaming them. I think it's like a team thing
and and honestly me like a lot individually where I
just don't think I'm putting in like one hundred percent.

(01:12:28):
I don't think we're putting in one hundred percent. I
think you can tell when we are, Like you can
if you like, if you like watch our games, you'll
notice like when when we're turning it up, when we're
like switching on sort of thing, and at the moment,
it's just not happening like game in and game out
as it was, like especially before Japan, like our career
boot camp was maybe some of the best apex like
we've played as a team. We were kind of just

(01:12:49):
like that. We all kind of agree that that boot
camp like definitely saved us. We were okay instagrims leaning
up to that boot camp, got to that boot camp,
and then sort of started pulling out like first first,
first first, and like every scrim block. So I was
just like, we definitely just need to get back to that.
We're definitely not doing that at the moment. And I
can't tell you why it happens after Lands. I think

(01:13:10):
it's like a little bit of post Land depression. I
actually don't know where. It's just like you come back
from just like playing at like the highest level to
playing like the same scrims you've played for five years straight.
It definitely becomes a bit like a like repetitive or
I don't want to use the word wrong, but like mundane,
I don't know if that's the word I'm looking for,
but just like you know, like kind of just like

(01:13:31):
just boring.

Speaker 9 (01:13:32):
I feel like that makes sense, but I mean coming
back and still taking first place right now in uh
in pro league. I mean with a day in hand,
I guess there's something you can't complain about.

Speaker 7 (01:13:42):
Huh, yeah, if you. If I'm to be like perfectly honest, man,
it's like a case of we are not playing well
and we're pulling out for first like fourth, Like it's
just like we had one really bad day on the
first day and that was, like, to be completely honest,
a lot of bad shit happened, Like we were just

(01:14:04):
getting like some really rough RNG and like just to
really top that off, we were just making like like
bad individual mistakes. So it was like in this in
the situations where we were playing well, something out of
our control would happen. Situations where we weren't playing well,
we'd just sort of just get steamrolled. It was just
like bad. But first right now with the day in hand,
is like not what we want either, Like we want

(01:14:26):
to be clear of second. Like Races won of the
last two pro leagues in a row, So he's not
trying to lose his streke. He's obviously sitting there. You
can see him on stream just like freaking out if
we're not winning every scrim block. We'll come, we'll win
a scrim block, honestly, and he'll still be freaking out.
So it's just like how it is. It's just just
playing with these these guys. It's just like the routine.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
You mentioned when you transitioned into the Falcons team and
there was nobody watching the back you all of a
sudden have to take up that role. Was that a
difficult change for you or was that something that just
kind of you know what it is, what it is,
and this is what I have to do if we
want to succeed.

Speaker 7 (01:15:06):
Oh, I don't know, man. So like that that whole
like anchor support thing is like it's just not hard.
It's just boring. The hard part is that I'm just
not doing anything, you know what I mean. It's just
like I've the hard the hard role in the game
is igl. The second hardest role is like entry fragging
by far, and then like it's just like after that,

(01:15:27):
it's just like anchor support refrag. It's just like all that.
It's just like super easy stuff. And uh, I definitely
don't think I struggled, because like I couldn't do it.
I struggled because it was like a situation of like
just figuring out like when I needed to do it,
and like how I guess how Reese wanted me to

(01:15:50):
do it. He's a very like particular person at some time,
like at some point, so it's just like kind of
had to get used to that. But besides that, no,
I think I think the role was insanely easy. Is easy.
I've won my first Land playing Watson. I've never played
Watson in the finals before, you know what I mean. Like,
it's just like it's just definitely not hard.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
It's just yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
And you mentioned though that you had thought that your
your original coming in was going to be completely different.
Was like kind of understanding, like, wait a second, this
is not what they brought me in for. Was that
like kind of a culture shock, Like damn, I kind
of wanted to do this.

Speaker 7 (01:16:23):
It wasn't, Uh, it wasn't that they brought me in
to do something different to what I was told. It
was that I was playing scrims on hyping from Australia
like when I first joined expected to play Bangalore and
playing Bengal. Playing Bengal for somebody else is like insanely difficult.
And most people will tell you that if you're IGL

(01:16:44):
and you're playing Bengalore like what I did in Germany,
I think it's insanely easy. Like you're smoking where you
want to smoke, you're bangalting, like when you want to
bangal doing those things for an IGL without them telling
you to do it. In my opinion, it's like insanely
difficult and so like kind of naturally like I had
to be like swapped onto the support role because like

(01:17:04):
it came to a certain point where I didn't really
have the time to continue to try and do like
the fragging thing. I was like it wasn't working to
begin with, so it was just like much easier just
to swap me into that. So definitely like prefer it.
It's definitely way more fun. But it's just like at
the end of the day, I'll do whatever, like my
team is what we to do.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
Yeah, And it's an interesting dynamic too, because I remember
when we first had Howl on post TSM on Falcons,
he had ended the one of our interviews with him
saying like I think I just need to be an
IGL because it wasn't essentially like he was saying I
miss it, but he was just kind of saying, like
I just feel almost the sentme you just said right now,
Like it's a little bit more fun, Like you get
to do the things you want to do. If things

(01:17:48):
don't go the way you want it to, it's like, well,
I'm the one who came up with it. When somebody
else is expecting you to do it, then it's like
frustrating because sometimes you don't get the calm or whatever
it is. But like for you, have you had any
those moments where you're sitting back like behind a Watson fence,
just sitting there like, damn, I kind of wish I
was just calling my own shots here.

Speaker 7 (01:18:08):
Oh well, like Reese is just better than me in
terms of like in terms of like ninety percent of
the game. He'll he'll tell you it's one hundred percent,
but he's just definitely a better igl. So so it's
like if I was to ever get kicked from Falcons
for instance, like you know what I mean, like I happened,

(01:18:29):
Like if if that ever happens, I would I would
probably go back to igling if I couldn't play with
like maybe two igls, Like there's maybe two igls that
i'd actually play for, like maybe, and even then I'd
just sit there. And I'm just like, after playing with Reese,
I think if I played with another IGL, it'd be
like ruined for me. I'd go play for somebody else.
They wouldn't make the call that Reese would make, and

(01:18:52):
I'd just be sitting there just like I think I'd
just be sitting there just gritting my teeth, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 9 (01:19:02):
Who those two? I was gonna try guessing them. I
feel like one still got to be empty, but I'm
trying to think of the second one. Who could that be?

Speaker 7 (01:19:10):
Uh, honestly, guess.

Speaker 9 (01:19:14):
Boys, you guys and guesses why phony phony er? Honestly,
I was even thinking I was.

Speaker 7 (01:19:21):
Curious if you'd say sweet still sweet, yeah came back?
Would you play with So I've always thought Sweetzon insane aigill.
Anyone who's spoken to him knows like he's a very
smart person. So like you, like you know what I mean,
and it does translate, But unfortunately, like I don't know
that I trust him to have the passion that I want,

(01:19:42):
yeah to like to play the double block of scrims
every day, to vow to you know, to want to
be the best if if he was, if he wanted
it enough, I think he could have remained in that
conversation with recent how but like you know, he did
slip away from that conversation pretty like pretty early on.

(01:20:02):
In my opinion, I think it was purely not because
he couldn't do it, just because he just wasn't applying
himself hard enough. And you know what I mean, Like
and you look at him now, like I don't know,
how like sort of up to date you are with
his like outside life. But the dude just you know,
he's just making money, you know what I mean, at
the end of the day, you can't like knock him
for it. Like what he's doing at the moment is
just like he's just like he's just making way more

(01:20:23):
than he would make it playing apex, that's for sure.
So it's like it's hard for him to want to
be the best apex player when he's making more not
doing that, you know what I mean?

Speaker 9 (01:20:31):
No, that makes sense. Yeah, I guess I was thinking,
like in a vacuum, if he was putting in as
much effort, That's what I was thinking.

Speaker 7 (01:20:37):
Probably if he was, like his attitudes would definitely would
definitely clash the fire. But after after playing with Reese,
I think I think I've built up like the mental fortitude.

Speaker 9 (01:20:45):
To play with anyone who was the second person, then
it probably would be phony.

Speaker 7 (01:20:52):
Tony's just like from like a from an outside perspective,
I don't I'm not well can I did with that team.
It does sort of appear that he needs like the
right players beside him just to like really thrive. I guess,
you know, like that that like SSG roster was sort
of like they really should have been a lot better
than what they were. Even though that they want to land,
they still should have done way better at that land,

(01:21:15):
Like you know what I mean, Like winning a land
but having like third or fourth four points, you know
what I mean, It's just like it's it's you won
the land, like and obviously, like you can never knock
somebody for winning a land. It's just like the name
of the game. But it's just like I think that
roster easily could have been putting up one hundred point finals,
you know what I mean, They could have been first
and first for points, but unfortunately it was just like

(01:21:36):
personality clashes and stuff like that. So I think he
is one of those ideals, And I think that's the
same way, Like I think he needs somebody beside him
that's like, you know, not gonna sort of overcome or
overcall someone that's gonna like kind of just like support
them the whole way. They can't really like thrive if
they're not in those sort of like environments sort of thing.

(01:21:56):
I think I would play like like a well with
phony if I was to play with him.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
It seems like a lot of people do. Do you
have a jobba?

Speaker 9 (01:22:03):
No, it just did make sense.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
Oh okay, okay, Well, moving forward and into the next
set of whatever's happening in ALGs, We've got EWC coming up,
and that's going to be a completely different tournament, completely
different style. And the question I feel like keeps coming
to my head for all the pros in the scene
right now is we're gonna have a lot of different
formats in one year. Like it's just every single one

(01:22:26):
is gonna be a little bit different. Preparing for this
one you've already obviously already gone through before, Like is
there any sort of preparation you can do or is
it just like we just got to get there and
figure it out as we go.

Speaker 7 (01:22:39):
Uh, I don't think the preparation like ever changes. It's
kind of like play as much as you possibly can.
That's like kind of always going to be the staple,
especially on this team. Like I don't think there's a
team that works harder than our team. Maybe right now
they would be like I definitely would say, like, especially
like individually, right now, I can tell you I'm not
playing as much as I've played in the past. I've

(01:23:00):
definitely played and tried a lot harder, which is like
something that I just to be like completely blunt about.
I just have to like be better and do better,
you know what I mean. It's just like I need
to just start applying myself and get back to like
that level that I was at before. But yeah, it's
the same staple regardless, Like you there's no the format
is not gonna change the way that we prepare, the

(01:23:22):
way that we prepares to like just sort of aim
to be winning absolutely everything and playing absolutely everything that
we can. And that's just kind of like how it
will always be.

Speaker 9 (01:23:32):
With with Falcons being so involved with the w C
last year, Like, do you think it puts you not?
I would say pressure, but like any extra emphasis on
you guys being like, hey, this is the big one,
Like we really like wanna see like the effort here
come out to like, you know, win this. So obviously
they want to like see you guys succeed in every turnament.
But I feel like EWC is just like such a
big one for the brand as well.

Speaker 7 (01:23:51):
They add incentives, not really like pressure, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 9 (01:23:57):
Yeah, like winning each I said, like emphasis more.

Speaker 7 (01:23:59):
Than yeah sure yah. Yeah. It's not like it's not
like they're sitting there and they're like like, you guys
have to win this one. This is all that you
have to win. It's just like y're like, hey, if
you win this one, you know what I mean. It's
just like it's like without saying that, you know what
I mean, Like without saying it's just like that they'll
take care of us sort of thing. It's just like
they want us to do like the absolute best, because yeah,
EWC is what they care about. They want to win that,

(01:24:20):
and they want it last year. They'll probably win it
again this year, you know what I mean. Like it's
just like that's just how it is, Like they do
definitely care about it, But in terms of like an augment.
I've I've gotta be honest, these guys are just like
nothing but that that they just nothing but as clinical
as you could be. Like we've had as I'm sure

(01:24:41):
you guys maybe have heard, but like we've had like
sports sports videos and like psychologists that came to two champs,
you know what I mean, Like they just kind of
just like twenty four to seven, like take care of
us and make sure that we've got like whatever whatever
it is we need. So definitely, just like one of
one of my favorite orcs that I've ever played with.

Speaker 9 (01:24:58):
Like four yea, they're doing it with Max for stapping today. Yeah,
just another way that Hal is just one more step
closer to like F one and Red Bull like and
then Red Bull and Falcons and like before a Hal
suddenly driving F one behind Max stopping.

Speaker 7 (01:25:17):
I would not I would not trust how to drive
an F one stick and keep that boy in the tesla.
Br They're not let one of those Did you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
Did you have a chance to do the sports psychology
like from from uh? Did you get a chance to
do it?

Speaker 7 (01:25:32):
Yeah? I mean I'm like I'm very big on uh
like mental health and like sort of in sports psychology
like I've dealt with them in the past, Like I've
played fairly high level like rugby league in the past,
and like I've had injuries that sort of like a
created mental blocks that I couldn't get through without talking
to someone about it and trying to figure that out.
So when, uh, when they offered that, I was like,

(01:25:53):
I'm always open for it. My teammates are like a
little bit more I don't know, I don't know if
the word is like a bracy about it, Like they
kind of just like as bigger fans of it, but
like they'll do it, you know, just because like you know,
it's offered, I guess.

Speaker 9 (01:26:07):
But yeah, I mean those two aren't going to couple's
therapy you No, definitely.

Speaker 7 (01:26:13):
Not definitely. They're just like, I don't know, they're kind
of just like the old heads about it, you know
what I mean, Like they're just like, nah, I don't
eat talk to anyone. I'll just I'll just grind my
way out of it and ship. I mean, it works.
I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:26:26):
Yeah, I mean they keep winning, yeah, so bad.

Speaker 7 (01:26:31):
But yeah, I'm like I'm like a big fan of
the psychology part. Sorry, no, you're good.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
So you had said that you aren't playing the game
as much as you ideally would.

Speaker 4 (01:26:42):
What does that look like? What does that look like
for you? As we approach like EWC and like the
next land.

Speaker 7 (01:26:51):
Uh, I'll definite stop ramping it back up again, Like
even right now, I need to like stop ramping it
back up again. Like my schedule at the moment is
just like I'm waking up an hour before scrims. I'm
playing like the double block of scrims. I'm getting off,
I'm going to gym, I'm coming home, I'm sleeping, ye
know what I mean. It's not like it's just not
as as good as it needs to be. I need
to be waking up, going to gym like before scrims,

(01:27:16):
playing like half an hour to an hour of half
five double block and then afterwards half five more rank
or I'll watch foods Like that's like usually how it goes.
So like the ideal day is definitely like half an
hour to an hour of half five before we play
play the double block scrims, like finish maybe like have
like a slight break and then I'll play like another
like two hours of like other half five and ranked

(01:27:37):
or just like one of the other and then like
VODs for like another hour or so.

Speaker 9 (01:27:42):
So like that altogether is like a good like ten hours,
like eight to ten hours. You have a need practice,
so I'm sure that me y e, we can like
really ones. Yeah, you might be just like some of
the screams he's playing and why I would be.

Speaker 7 (01:28:01):
I forgot we Jumper, who did you play with? Who
did you play with? The whole time, I was like,
I was like trying to make.

Speaker 9 (01:28:07):
Sure we didn't kill you, yeah, or my buddy Connor
and then Burke Burke who's now the coach of Fusion. Yeah,
it was Burke and then Connor. Yeah, there was all that.
I was appreciating the conversations as I was listening to
you guys say, don't is this them? Should we not
kill them? And then proceed to run us down every game?

Speaker 7 (01:28:25):
Bro, We weren't sure. Actually guys know you guys know
we did not watch the VODs.

Speaker 9 (01:28:32):
You guys straight go, this is fucking Jumbas team as
you're killing.

Speaker 7 (01:28:35):
Me midun Mid Yeah, that's too late at that point
I came back at Now.

Speaker 9 (01:28:44):
There's so many funny clips. There's one time where like
we decided to start running at you guys, and then
like I think two of us just got instantly hit
for like one fifty. We're like, oh, we got to
back up. You're like, what the fuck, where are you going?
Don't run away? And then we stopped and we kind
of turned around one more time, like, oh, great, they're
coming back. Like there was that just that happened. There
was one time on Stormpoint where you guys actually chased

(01:29:05):
us across the entire map. I stayed, yeah, you guys
were pissed. You're like, we're killing them now just that time,
you guys didn't know it was us. I stayed back
to kind of try and not one B three but
distract you guys while Connor and Burke ran and then separated,
and you go, they definitely went left. They definitely went left,
and you guys found Burke on the left, but Connor
went right and he survived. And you're like, are you

(01:29:26):
fucking kidding me? Did they actually split up? Got us
the revive we got second that game. It was awesome.
This solid We played Hide and Seek for the first
two sets pretty much.

Speaker 7 (01:29:38):
I remember the screenshot of us having like you guys
like you guys quolled I was just like hell.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
Yeah, ude, yeah, it was kind of funny, like thinking
about like a successful game against Falcons during BLGs was
literally running away, splitting up all three separately in different directions,
and then getting second place.

Speaker 9 (01:29:55):
Well again, I there's so many funny moments, Like I
still have to edit this video. There's gonna be a
whole bit about it, because like there's just so many
funny moments from that set where the first game, so
we're the only ones in that first lobby who tried
to play a little bit of macro. We're like, let's
just pay attention where falcons are not going near them,
and then let's actually, you know, plan out to rotate.
So by the end game, you guys have killed everyone

(01:30:16):
and then you start shooting us, and Walter goes, this
is the first fucking team that has purple shields in
this game. It's because we're the only ones the thought
to get emo. Cash's like guess and it's just an
absolute gong show. Like Zero Kraber is one of our guys.
I'm screaming to let me get the res I think
we're totally set. How's in my bubble just standing there
watching me like it's it's a complete gonk show. It was.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
It was.

Speaker 7 (01:30:39):
It was fun though.

Speaker 9 (01:30:39):
The for sure the best part of the video is
gonna be is like we have like this whole hype montage.
We finally started winning games in some of our scrims
and then we're like, let's go like we're good today,
and then Connor goes, it's fucking falcons in our lobby.
He was like, okay, well, like that changes everything that
we practiced for this point.

Speaker 7 (01:30:58):
I'm not gonna lie. I need I need actually see
that every day because I'd like forgotten about like we
had like a lot of moments in bl just where
I was like, damn this, it's like actually fine. I
forgot like what it's like because like back in the
day at the start, because I don't know how early
you guys watched like comp Apex, but back in the day,
like that was like how it worked. You had to
play those early rounds where you adverse people who were
just very clearly like didn't really know what they were

(01:31:19):
doing sort of thing. And I just remember it was
just like like Jen back in the day, because we
were Apex South was dropping like a twenty four k
in like the early lobbies just run just absolutely running
people down, and you would watch people genuinely just try
and avoid like recent recent gen just like running away
from them for like a solid ten minutes, just trying

(01:31:40):
to like hide from them. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:31:41):
No, like Biale just literally felt like what I imagine
playing in those online tournaments Summer circuits, Winter circuits exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
Was.

Speaker 4 (01:31:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:31:50):
The only place that I absolutely fumbled is is I
downloaded Zero's VOD and I only downloaded the audio, not
the video. Now, the fortunate thing is is I do
have hal uploaded a video of highlights, so there's still
some stuff in there that I can secure and then
some of the calms all like I don't know, I'll
get from fucking Zeros VOD. But just kind of sucks,

(01:32:11):
kind of sucks that I don't have the actual footage
because I don't know how I messed that up and
downloaded on the audio.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
But yeah, I mean there's in no world should there
ever be a lobby that has the entire Falcons roster
and jump.

Speaker 5 (01:32:25):
Up then.

Speaker 7 (01:32:28):
Seated.

Speaker 9 (01:32:29):
It said it that ship was seated.

Speaker 7 (01:32:31):
I'm like, what seat? What see that I get?

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
I got?

Speaker 9 (01:32:40):
Uh No, Yeah, I mean, like I remember even in
the lobby was pretty funny, like like the just shooting
this ship there before the game started was always a
a vibe, and I think I even like there's one
point where I'm like, uh, would you guys take a
bribe in the ref? I had never seen across four
tournaments a ref and builds Yes, I take a bribe
and pops in there goes you guys RDY. I was like,

(01:33:00):
what the fuck? Would the ref guy here kind of
pay these guys to let me get through? Because I
needed to get third round of that video would have
been ships.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
What a time that was?

Speaker 1 (01:33:14):
Actually, you know what it reminded me of earlier you
had said, Uh, you guys had a boot camp and
it there was a time where things were like very
bleak and you guys had that boot camp, And then
it kind of brought you guys back when you said
that things were tough, Like what like, was there a
moment where there was a chance where it was like, oh,
this isn't gonna work as a team or was it
more just like we're just struggling overall?

Speaker 5 (01:33:36):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (01:33:39):
It was just kind of like on any on any
roster that like I've been on and all of Race's
rosters that like I've never like we were like having
the results that like I'd never had and he'd especially
never had, Like he's kind of always won scrims before laying.
He's kind of like always one pro league, always one,

(01:34:00):
you know, like everything that you could win if he
didn't win the land, you know what I mean. So
we were just like well and truly underperforming. I don't
think it. I don't think it reached like a any
sort of like a breaking point. I mean it was
definitely at a at a situation where like I was
more struggling with dealing with Reese and how more so
than like how the game stuff was going, Like dealing

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with Hal and Reese, like when they're having their moments
where Hall screaming up to wake the fuck up in
the middle of pro league, or Race is asking me
if I'm retarded, you know what I mean. Like it's
just like it's just like that. That was just like
it literally just I was getting tag teams like right before.
I was just like these two had just gone back
and forth. I was just struggling, and then we got

(01:34:41):
to the boot camp could actually look at them and
just be like, hey, guys, like as a real person,
like right next to you, like we can calm with
the fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:34:49):
Down, you know what I mean, and like the sports psychologist.

Speaker 7 (01:34:56):
Yeah, Race, I'll be so honest. He kind of kept it.
He kept it consistent, Like even even at the boot camp,
if I if I fucked, that would still scream like
right next to me. But I mean even at Land,
You've definitely seen him scream at me, like at Land
or how at Land. So I was like, yeah, I
don't know that. The boot camp, I guess it was

(01:35:16):
just like good in terms of just like chemistry, Like
it really just like fixed our chemistry. We kind of
we'd we'd wake up, see each other like go to
the boot camp, go eat, like go dinner, you know
what I mean. Like just those moments are big for
teams that just like you know, don't really have great chemistry.
And I think that's just what it did. It just
like kind of it kind of fixed that, and then

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we were able to kind of pop off Atlantic except
for obviously going through losers, but then we just like
farm losers.

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
M it's actually hilarious, like you brought that, Like how
almost said that exactly last week when we asked him
what he learned, like, since the last time we interviewed you,
what have you learned? And he was like, well, you know,
a lot of my career I've spent you know, kind
of yelling at people and stuff, and I think I
realized that there's another person on the other side of that.
And that was basically like how he ended the interview.

(01:36:06):
And it's crazy that you said almost the exact same
thing he said.

Speaker 9 (01:36:09):
I shouldn't have said. I said, that's been coming from you.

Speaker 7 (01:36:12):
Yeah. I was like, wow, yeah, I'll be honest, Bro,
How how at the start, Like I don't know how
will you remember it? But at the start, Reese wasn't
able to play because he didn't have his visa. Yeah,
we had to play with Oscivian and during that period, Bro,
I joined like I had fresh joined the team. And
I remember during like during that Bill Jess where he
had to idl and he was sick and he was

(01:36:34):
like he was peak tweak, like he was like actually
freaking out on me, blaming me for everything. He was
just like he was ripping me because he couldn't rip
into a Syvian because he was just a sub. So
I was just copying it and I was just sitting there,
I was like, bru, like did that fuck up?

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
Like?

Speaker 7 (01:36:49):
Should I have stayed with Moys? Like is this really
what I've found out for? It was just not anything
that I expected. But to be completely honest, Hal has
been like the most muldable person in that regard, like
the work that him and Kyle have done to get
him to like stop doing that and like only do
it when it's warranted, like that Pro League day the
other day where he screamed it. I don't know if

(01:37:10):
he gets watched, but when he screamed at me because
I fucked up and told me to wake up, I
sat there and I was like mad because I've just
been screamed out and I'm a grown man. No one
likes being screamed at. But I was like fair, like
that's fair, like I've I've fucked up bad and he
told me to wake up. I was like all right,
like let me lock in and then like we won
the next game, like that is important. Like I think

(01:37:32):
when I first joined, he didn't know when to do it.
He'd just do it all the time, even when it
was like unwarranted or it was just like bad timing
sort of thing where it's like now, like he kind
of only does it when it's like it is truly
like warranted, like when we when I definitely deserve it
sort of thing.

Speaker 9 (01:37:46):
The amount of times I've talked to one of you
guys from your team and you guys tell me that
you had like a little crash out and then immediately
won the next game is actually pretty impressive though, because
it seems like that's what you almost need to do,
and like, yeah, it clicks in for you guys, you
do it, And I also do think it's also pretty impressive,
you know, talking to you guys outside of the game,
you're all like extremely chill dudes, and like if you

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guys never played the game and we all just knew
each other like that, you would never think that they
had it in them to kind of like shout and
scream like that though the way it kind of goes
down in games, but as we said, even a couple
of times, you know keep winning, right.

Speaker 7 (01:38:21):
Like so yeah, I mean I remember being a few
drinks deep in the in the in that Red Bull
Afta party and telling you about how Game three of
Champs Hall has ripped the most generational crashout on race,
like something that I like, and I told you I
thought I was coming twenty at that land, and then
we won the next game and the next day it
was like a seven teen kill Windle song. It was

(01:38:42):
like something shoot, but I think it was a seventeen
kill yeah, straight after that, because I.

Speaker 9 (01:38:45):
Was actually gonna bring that up a couple seconds ago
where I think we talked about the fact that in
that moment, you sat there and it just looked like relief.
It didn't look like like the other two like hal zero,
they're up, they're jumping there, yelling, and I'm pretty sure
you sat in your jairsdale, just relief that you guys
clutched this window and just dropped this banger to put
you guys on match point out.

Speaker 7 (01:39:04):
Yeah, I thought I thought after that I was coming twenty.
I thought like that was that was a bad crash
out from hell. And he he, he like didn't do
it this land, even like sometimes you can see you
can see it with him, like if you're ever, like
if you're ever for whatever reason close enough to our
team and you're paying attention to how you'll see him
like internally like molding trying not to like freak out,

(01:39:24):
and he did it like he did it this land,
but he didn't actually let it out, and that was like,
that's big, you know what I mean, that's that's what
I'm talking about. Like he's that's that's the molding I'm
talking about.

Speaker 9 (01:39:32):
He's probably more comfortable because he was wearing foot flip flops.
Oh yeah, that's probably. So glad you brought that up,
because I.

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
Have a question, man, where at EWC things aren't going well.
Everybody's just wearing everybody's wearing tennis, everybody's wearing.

Speaker 2 (01:39:46):
Their regular shoes right and things. It's it's getting dire.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
We're down to the last couple of games here and
you just look over, you peek over and you see
a pair of flip flops just sitting over across the table.
You look down at how he's not wearing them right now?
Are you like, hey, buddy, are you giving him the
nudge like go grab those right now?

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
We need something generational, right But.

Speaker 7 (01:40:04):
I'm gonna be so real, bro, I'm gonna be so real. No,
I'm not doing that, but not to he needs to
not do that again.

Speaker 4 (01:40:17):
You're not seeing the thumbnail that.

Speaker 9 (01:40:20):
Dude.

Speaker 7 (01:40:21):
I literally we literally are walking out of the hotel Bro,
I just see this guy wearing flip flops as we're
walking like our a little like one kilometer walk to
the hotel, like from hotel to the event. I'm just
sitting there. I'm just like, this guy has like all
the money in the world and I'm just and and
he's just rocking flip flops. Bro. Like this guy, like
you know what I mean, Like, Hey, there's like I

(01:40:43):
see like these like these edits all the time. Of
Like there's like this golfer I don't know his name,
but the dude rocks up, doesn't doesn't do any practice, swings,
rocks up, cranks like three beers and just absolutely fucking
slams it. And I'm just I just think that's just
like Halen and nushell. Bro, he's just like such a
comfort person. He doesn't like work on any sort of
like like he works hard, obviously, but he he definitely

(01:41:06):
is like one of those people. I think that is
just like a comfort person, like we'll just do whatever,
just do whatever he like feels natural to him.

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
So when you first saw it, though you didn't say anything,
you just kind of internalize.

Speaker 7 (01:41:15):
You're like, that's odd, how I said something I said
there's no fucking way we're wearing flip flops. Fun. Definitely,
I'm just not letting him just definitely, I'm just not
letting him walk around with flip flops and not say anything. Bro's, no,
I'm letting that slide. He just thinks he's him, so

(01:41:36):
he was just like he's He just would have said
something along the blindes like I'm the CEO. Not not
actually like that, but just he would have been saying
like I'm him, like we're I'm gonna win, like I'm
gonna win flip flops like it's just like how he
thinks hmm. Kind of like you.

Speaker 9 (01:41:50):
Gotta like you said that, you gotta kind of respect
the fact that, like, you know, we're in na he's
out of land, you know, like because like when you
go to other countries, obviously there's gonna be fans. He's
like the most well known player in this game, but
not like in NA Land and everyone's gonna have to
meet him. He doesn't care that. He's just got the
dogs out like I.

Speaker 7 (01:42:06):
Can't do that. I can't do that. No, I don't
think anyone can do that. But how yeah, I think
he's the only person like on this planet that could
actually do that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:16):
And he did it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:17):
I mean, if he if he did respond by saying
I'm him, you can't really blame him at that point.
I mean he's got he's got the hard way to
back it up.

Speaker 7 (01:42:24):
Yeah, he does have that attitude about him though, like
he like when it comes when it comes to when
it comes to like the game, they like, that's just
definitely how he thinks. He like, it's sometimes it's just
pure delusion, but like where there's delusion there, so so
I just let him rock.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
Now, when they're having their generational crash outs, is there
ever a part of you is like should I start
mediating this thing?

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
Or do you kind of just let it go?

Speaker 9 (01:42:47):
It's Kyle's job right there, you go. It's totally on
Droger to do.

Speaker 7 (01:42:52):
It's it's a situation where if you get involved, as
like the third then it becomes like like it I
kind of feel like I'm ganging up on one person.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:43:00):
The only time I will ever get involved was like
at Land where like that they like, how's it crashing out?
And I'm like, all right, all right, like we're your sault,
like chill like chill the fuck out. But Carl will
always if like Kyl will let them go if he
feels like it's beneficial. He'll only intervene when he feels like, Okay,
now we're just getting to a point where it's like

(01:43:21):
getting personal. Now we're getting to a point where it's
like detrimental to the team, you know what I mean,
Like a lot of their crashouts is just like coming
from how being you know, he's one without race, he
knows what it takes to win. He feels like he
has every right, and he does have like every right
in some aspects. Sometimes he's definitely uncalled for, but like

(01:43:43):
he does have every right to like sort of challenge reason,
like sort of give his opinion. Recee will think the
complete opposite, that he sucks and he shouldn't be talking
to him. And that's like valid too. That's just how
Reese is, you know what I mean, Like, and that's
like valid because like that's how I want That's how
you want your Igel to be. You want your Igel
to be like, don't don't talk to me about the game.

(01:44:05):
I know more than you, I am better than you,
like that, and that's why like you just have to
let them sort of like rock and sometimes bro like
like Reese will never admit it, but like sometimes the
stuff that Hal says sits with him, like how like
Raesel'll sit there and like he'll be like, Okay, like
that's that's that's a fair point. May not be right,
but he'll take it on board sort of thing, you
know what I mean. So it's just like definitely like

(01:44:28):
Kyle is one of like two coaches that could do
what he does in terms of like knowing when to
jump in and when not to jump in sort of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:44:37):
Is it ever difficult when let's say, for instance, like
Hal's getting on you for something and in your heart
of hearts, you're like, I know what I did was
the right play? Or are you always kind of just
sitting there thinking like I don't know, Like I gotta
go rewatch it to see if that's the case. But
has there ever been a time where it was like
you You're like, I I know I did the right
play here, and you you, I don't know, if you're

(01:44:58):
like an argumentative guy, would you want to give it
back to them or would you kind of just wait
until after to kind of review it.

Speaker 7 (01:45:03):
I don't know if I've I definitely haven't done it
like too often. I never like, I'll never get into
like a long, like twenty minute argument about it either,
Like if I've ever thought I was right and I've
said it and then they still don't listen, then I'll
just meet it up deaf andely just kind of just
chill the fuck out. Not because like for me, it's like,

(01:45:26):
like I said, they both think they're the best, they
both think they're always right. I like it that way.
That's how it should be. Like you want them to
just think that way. You don't want them to have
any sort of like cracks in the album. You want
them to think that they're perfect. And sometimes I have
to just like sort of tank it when i know
I've done something right and I'm getting told that it
was wrong sort of thing. And so like I don't,

(01:45:48):
I don't. I'm the same in a way, like I
don't care to be right like with them, I don't
care to be right with anyone else. If I think
I'm right or I know i'm right, I'm just gonna
like I'll sit there, I mute up. Sometimes I'll even
agree and I'll like, I'll like that'll say something and
I'll agree, I'll mute up and in my head, I'm like,
you'll like, you're just brain dead. I'm right, like you

(01:46:09):
know what I mean, But I don't care to like
have to have them say that I'm right, you know
what I mean. It's just easier, Like you can't have
three people doing that, you can, like even two people
is a lot, right you see it on stream all
the time, like they'll be crashing out if if a
third person is doing that, Like it's just too much,
like it would be so dysfunctional.

Speaker 1 (01:46:29):
Yeah, I gotta feel like, out of everybody in the scene,
there's not a whole lot of people that can play
the role that you're in right now. Like there's got
to be a lot of like having that type of
pressure and then also having both of them at certain
times whatever it may be, kind of coming after you
for this or for that. There can't be that many
people to be able to sit there and kind of

(01:46:51):
take it like that. Is that just something you kind
of have naturally always had or was it like a
muscle you kind of had to train over time playing
with them.

Speaker 7 (01:47:00):
I definitely had to adapt to it, like it was
just it's definitely a situation of like I've come from.

Speaker 1 (01:47:07):
Be like.

Speaker 7 (01:47:09):
It's gonna be egotistical, but I've come from like always
been the best player in my team, you know, even
like even like with Guild, like Guild to be like
right up there with me. But I've always believed like
I'm I know what I'm like, I know better, you
know what I mean. So it was like I've always
thought I know better. And so like even with Empty,
like we would have arguments all the time because me

(01:47:30):
and him kind of like he had a very he
had a very good understanding of the game, like macro wise,
but a lot of like the late game decisions came
down to like me, and sometimes if he and I
had a disagreement, it'd be a case of like we
would get into like those long arguments where like now
there was a back down and then like joining this team,

(01:47:52):
you kind of can't do that again because you are
playing with people that have done more than you, Like
they've they've they've done it all. So it's just like
it will define There was something that I had to
like learn, like you know, know, there's like a tough
pill to swallow in some sense, because I was just
like this fucking sucks I've gone from being able to
like sort of like stand up for myself and I'll

(01:48:12):
give my point to know you're wrong, your stupid shut up,
you know what I mean. And it's just like it's annoying,
but it's just like I don't really care. I'm like,
if we keep stacking wins, what do I care about
being right in it argument? You know what I mean.

Speaker 9 (01:48:29):
Yeah, but as long as you have that, you know,
self confidence in yourself, Like, We're not gonna sit here
and act like obviously you know they have all their
acolades behind them, but like you just said yourself that
you have not been top five, top ten player over
the last year and a half or so, especially right
since coming to NA, so you know you have to
shut up and just go next with those moments. But

(01:48:51):
it's like you know you've been there, done that too, so.

Speaker 7 (01:48:54):
Oh yeah, like it Like so there are instances where
I'm like, uh, I know, top frag finals, top frag,
multiple winners brackets, top frag land, No, like I got
never missed finals before joining this team, I had never
touched a loser's bracket. But now I'm just apparently now
we're just only going through losers apparently that that was cool.

Speaker 4 (01:49:16):
You guys own losers though.

Speaker 7 (01:49:18):
Yeah, yeah, I went from I went from like, yeah,
won two winners brackets and like top five like winners
brackets and stuff like that, you know what I mean,
Like I'd never missed finals, Like there were things that
I've done, uh that they hadn't Like split two, we
won groups one winners back to back that hadn't been
done before, you know what I mean. But like at

(01:49:40):
the end of the day, all they care about is
like wins. Like so it's just like I can't argue
that they've got like what nine wins between? Is it? Nine?

Speaker 3 (01:49:49):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:49:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:49:50):
I think how's that? Five zero four four in the
four time? Yeah, include like the first two?

Speaker 7 (01:49:56):
Yeah, yeah, So I can't argue with it. But yeah,
I have like a I don't know, like a I
do have an ego in a sense that like I
just won't ever doubt myself. So as long as I've
got that, then, like I said, I just don't care
about winning arguments. It's just like so it to me,
it's just boring, Like screaming matches and arguments are so boring.

Speaker 9 (01:50:17):
See, what you gotta do is you gotta like, stop
listing them in the finals, go crazy, win the LAMB,
and then get steal MVP from the two of them.
That's what you need that.

Speaker 7 (01:50:27):
I get put it. I'm literally put on crypto Castle
Judy Like there's just no world where I'm ever stealing
m v P.

Speaker 3 (01:50:34):
Bro.

Speaker 7 (01:50:34):
Like it's just like it's just not happening.

Speaker 9 (01:50:35):
Okay, I know if you got it from there, though,
it will go in EWC. They do it, like last year,
castors voted on that. I won't be there, but maybe
I'll put in a word with the casters. Yo, just
give it to wall T be funny to see how
Zero not get it.

Speaker 7 (01:50:50):
That I'm not gonna I think if that. I genuinely
think if that happened, Bro, you'd see them both just
like the Jaws would be on the floor. Bro. They couldn't.
They couldn't stomach it, bro, Like I just I just
know that they couldn't.

Speaker 9 (01:51:01):
One of How's biggest complaints. He's like, there was no
trophies for MVP, which I do agree, it's cool, like
to have a trophy for MVP, but I was He's
like didn't even say anything with the land. He's like,
where was my trophy? Because I think he wants to
put it on his shelf so Zero can see it.

Speaker 7 (01:51:16):
It's just like, that's what I'm saying. Bro Like, it's
just like that doesn't even surprise me that he said that.
That doesn't surprise about it.

Speaker 9 (01:51:22):
I saw tweeted about it.

Speaker 4 (01:51:24):
Where's my trophy?

Speaker 7 (01:51:26):
That's just them in a nut show, bro like, Like
race would be the exact same way if he got it,
and he got the trophy, he'd put it behind him,
like it'd be the exact same thing.

Speaker 9 (01:51:34):
Okay, I'll collude. I'll put in a word for you.
I'll get your MVP. No, it's it was a broadcaster
vote last year. The casters got to so you know,
maybe I can swing something. I don't know. I might
need money.

Speaker 7 (01:51:50):
Who got it?

Speaker 2 (01:51:51):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (01:51:51):
Hackis that's right? Yeh, I just got it. You also
get an extra fifty k for m VP aw if
it's the same as last year, so you know that
is I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure there's a fifty
thousand dollars bonus. Yeah, yeah, which is just a bigger
reason why there's absolutely probably not collusion going on here, Like,
could you imagine.

Speaker 7 (01:52:13):
I'm not gonna lie I genuinely think like w C.
I think WINNINGWC, like going back to back. I think
one of them is just gonna be upset if they
don't get the fucking they don't get the MVP. They're
just like they'll be happy. But I can just already
tell like it'll be one of them. One of them
won't get it, and they'll just be a little bit

(01:52:33):
salty about it. It's just how it's gonna go. I'm confident,
by the way, after everything that we spoke about, I've
told everyone, you put this team in the finals lobby.
I don't think there's a world where we can't top
three or we don't top three, Like I just think
we all know finals like well enough, and Reese, especially
the calls that he makes works a hundred times better

(01:52:55):
in a finals lobby than it works at any of
the lobby. So I just think like for some reason,
we seem to like to just take the long, hard
road to get there. But if you get us there,
I just think we're like a top three.

Speaker 4 (01:53:08):
Look, just so, you guys were just getting warm ups.
You guys are just getting reps in and just.

Speaker 7 (01:53:13):
Practice stress testing is what we were doing. Bro practice
absolute stress just more team bonding. We need more of that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:27):
Well, boys, I don't I don't really have too many more.

Speaker 1 (01:53:29):
I don't know if you guys have anybody, if you don't,
if you guys don't got any more than you can
hit them with it.

Speaker 4 (01:53:35):
Yeah, I got one more before the last one.

Speaker 2 (01:53:39):
And that is so.

Speaker 4 (01:53:41):
How I know that you've already answered this, But now
as a as a land.

Speaker 3 (01:53:45):
Champion, how much do you attribute your success endgame to
your gym work?

Speaker 7 (01:53:54):
Uh? Definitely this like it'll be the same that I
gave you lost, Definitely, Like I don't think I'd be
the same mentally that I that I am without Jim.
And it's even to the point where like as of
like in like as of like very very recently, like
I've been trying to find like getting into like boxing classes,

(01:54:16):
getting into like some sort of like fighting classes purely
because the game just it just is a lot, man.
It's just like it's it's the point now where I
feel like Jim is like not that it's not enough,
but I just need that extra just like just sort
of just to unwind, you know what I mean, just
just to get out any like aggression, emotion, whatever. It

(01:54:38):
is just you know what I mean, Like I just
need that extra just like a bit to step away
and just like really just like make sure that I'm
not coming in the next day with that same sort
of like bad mental if the gym's not enough sort
of thing. So I definitely just credit Jim for like
the fact that I'm able to say said being like
being especially being on this team.

Speaker 4 (01:54:58):
So I feel bad for the guy that's on there.

Speaker 3 (01:55:00):
The sound of that room, Yeah, I got to find somebody.

Speaker 4 (01:55:03):
For that way.

Speaker 9 (01:55:05):
Last time he was here, he was and I'm assume
maybe it's improved since Ana. Last time you're here, you
said you were benching one sixty dumb dumb bells, one
sixty pound dumbbells, and now you're becoming a train fighter.
If I was an I g O, I don't think
you're the guy I'd be wanting to yell at.

Speaker 7 (01:55:21):
He knows, bro. It's so funny. It's so it's so
funny because he does that, he like he does that
like where he's like where he's like screaming at me.
You'll he'll call me everything under the sun that he
that he possibly can, and then we'll go to Jim.
He'll see He'll see like like what I'm able to
lift where I'm like I'm able to to move his

(01:55:42):
body weight in like the exercises that I'm doing, and
he's just like yep, like this is this is just
like just calls me a monkey and then just says
that like I'm just I've just got like monkey strength,
and then just like yeah, I don't know it is
it is. It is like a funny situation where like
I've got this dude's screaming at me, and it's just
like could definitely just kill him, just definitely just kill

(01:56:05):
him if I wanted to you.

Speaker 9 (01:56:09):
Yeah, when he crashed through the day, did you just
go and and unplug his PC? Is that what actually happened?
He was saying something lake Gamer, like screw this something,
just don't plug his PC?

Speaker 7 (01:56:18):
No, but he he was he was ready to absolutely
tear the house apart when that happened, because that that
actually cost us like the difference between fourth and third.
So that was like instantly frustrating. Also, today we've double
crashed in that end zone and then he shit the
one v three. I don't know what's going on with
the crashes and stuff like that, but yeah, I don't
know that that that crash was definitely like an absolute tilter,

(01:56:39):
because losing losing pro league points like a third and
a fourth doesn't sound like a lot until like you
see it.

Speaker 9 (01:56:45):
Like over thour points, right, like is it?

Speaker 7 (01:56:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:56:47):
Yeah? Two?

Speaker 7 (01:56:48):
Right, it was nine to seven.

Speaker 9 (01:56:51):
I can't even remember at the top of my head, like.

Speaker 7 (01:56:54):
Two points or three points or something, but it's just
like those.

Speaker 9 (01:56:56):
Oh like like in game, yeah it's two points. Yeah.
I thought you were talking about overall points for the day.

Speaker 7 (01:57:01):
No, yeah, overall points for the day. It's funny. I
couldn't tell you what it is, but I know it's
like enough that like it's gonna add up by the
time that we finished probalygue, you know what I mean.

Speaker 9 (01:57:10):
Always there's always usually like it's tight. It's like a
one to two point. I'm pretty sure there's like how
many teams every year miss land just by one point, right,
so every single one counts. Yeah, anyways, e.

Speaker 3 (01:57:26):
E won't hit them with it, all right, And so
you're on for the third time, which means I get
to ask you the question I asked you that when
you came on the second time, now with a different
period of time to work with, and so that question
would be from the last time you were on the
pod to now, what's the most important thing you've learned?

Speaker 7 (01:57:50):
Aw, Bro, I'm gonna be so, I'm gonna be so honest,
the most important thing I've learned, Bro, is I don't
know what I said last time. I can't. I honestly
can't remember, but I'm I'm gonna say it's just like
Carl won't agree, But it's like it's like patience for sure,
Like just the amount of patience it takes to like

(01:58:10):
not freak out and not just tweak when I'm when
I'm getting screamed at when the games are going bad,
like you know what I mean, Like just like it's
infinitely worse now than like it used to be when
I was on a team, where like we're a lot
more chill about stuff like that. So definitely, definitely i'd
say patience, you know what I mean. And it's like
it's definitely like applied not just to to that sort

(01:58:33):
of stuff, you know, like a big part of like
why sometimes I'll get like emotionals because obviously living far
away from my wife and everything going on at home
and stuff like that. So definitely patience because like right now,
I'm in a period where this is like gonna be
the longest time I've been apart from her, because now
we HAVEWC like back to back, like right after this land.

(01:58:55):
Like usually in between lands, I'll be able to go home,
but like right now, it's sort of like definitely like
the longest. So yeah, I definitely deficit patience.

Speaker 1 (01:59:04):
Were totally understandable, totally, Like, I think that's something that
a lot of times, uh, just viewers of the ALGs
and fans, they don't fully take into account some of
the other aspects in players lives other than you know,
just what's happening in game and what's happening on stream.
There is a lot of other factors and and that's
a big one because just trying to put myself in

(01:59:25):
those shoes, it's hard to imagine man like being being
away for that long. So definitely commend you for that, man,
And uh, once again, thank you for hopping on man.
It's always a great time to have you on. Well,
it's always a great time.

Speaker 7 (01:59:37):
I appreciate them, and it's always fun talking. Hell yeah,
baby goes way quicker than I just thirteen.

Speaker 3 (01:59:43):
Bro.

Speaker 7 (01:59:43):
Yeah, yeah, I thought kyl'd be. I thought, Kyle, I
was going to be like half an hour. I'm just
lied so bad.

Speaker 2 (01:59:49):
Yeah, no, that's that's how we try to do it.
That's how we try to do it. We try to
just you know, talk it out.

Speaker 1 (01:59:54):
It also explains why you wanted to take up the
fighting classes, because you're like, I need some patience for
and screamed that all the time. That explains it. I mean,
that sums it up. That sums it up right there.
Just got to get all that frustration out there.

Speaker 2 (02:00:08):
You go, there, you go. Well once again, Walter, thanks
for hopping on.

Speaker 8 (02:00:11):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:00:11):
You are finally a champion. We were all so excited
for you out in the crowd.

Speaker 9 (02:00:14):
That was like, yeah, I hope you're.

Speaker 1 (02:00:19):
Right in the front, but it was, I mean it
there was so much going on, but it was we
were all very excited for you, like for all of
us here, like you were one of our first ever
interviews and uh, at least for me and E and
so it was.

Speaker 2 (02:00:32):
It was.

Speaker 1 (02:00:33):
It was awesome to see you finally getting to do
that because seeing you from then all the way to now,
it's been such a big transformation and it's awesome to
see you finally get that moment that you that you deserved.
You've deserved that moment for a long time, man, So.

Speaker 7 (02:00:47):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 9 (02:00:47):
Man.

Speaker 7 (02:00:48):
I definitely remember it. But I think back when we
first said it was Finicky right, Yeah it was Finn me. Yeah,
Finicky was still back. Damn.

Speaker 2 (02:00:56):
That is a throwback, bro, A long time ago, bro,
that's what I'm saying. And ships it's been.

Speaker 7 (02:01:01):
And we're old. That's like how many how many years
as a pumping around?

Speaker 9 (02:01:09):
Yeah, holy yeah, because.

Speaker 2 (02:01:11):
You were still in Apex South like it was a
long time. Yeah, it was a long time ago.

Speaker 7 (02:01:15):
No, I definitely, yeah, I definitely remember. No, thank you, though,
I appreciate it. I always like always like coming on
and just like yapp and chatting, especially because like I
don't I don't exactly always get like a lot of
opportunity to catch up. Like when I saw Enoch at
the land, I was like, holy shit, like it's just
it's been a minute since we've even spoken, because like
I don't really play rank like that anymore. I'm kind
of just like I'm on the R fiving stuff like that.

(02:01:37):
So it's always good man. I'm always like down to
jump on the pud whenever he goes whenever you guys
don't have someone else man.

Speaker 2 (02:01:42):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:01:43):
And then he gave you the righteous knuckle touch that
gave you the first place victory.

Speaker 9 (02:01:47):
You gotta you gotta see why appen into the lands,
why his favorite thing to do you when he sees
the any Atlantis goes, I don't know if you know me.
I'm from the Apex spot. And then they all have
shut up because everyone's gonna forget who he is.

Speaker 7 (02:02:00):
Yeah, I feel like I feel like a lot of
people do that, bro.

Speaker 9 (02:02:04):
Honestly I do too sometimes. Yeah, Like I'm I'm never
too sure with some pros. So I've talked to you
once or twice, but everyone.

Speaker 7 (02:02:12):
Stand at you said that you have on like the
podcast for like three hours, but remember your face.

Speaker 2 (02:02:18):
I'm just like, I don't know, it's over the internet.
Who knows, who knows what he's gonna remember?

Speaker 7 (02:02:23):
I got a short term or what.

Speaker 3 (02:02:26):
Might it might be the high difference because he looks
taller on camera than he does.

Speaker 7 (02:02:33):
What is he gonna walk up and I'm just looking down?

Speaker 2 (02:02:35):
Yea compared to you, I am so small.

Speaker 1 (02:02:44):
I'm like five foot six and shoes baby five ft seven,
so I'm small six in the morning, well five eight
in the morning until gravity.

Speaker 9 (02:02:53):
Okay, that's the case that I'm six ft two.

Speaker 7 (02:02:58):
All right, thanks, thanks for me, I'll catch you guys.

Speaker 1 (02:03:01):
Let it all right, ladies and gents, let's get into
the regional round up here. We've got a lot of
regions to go to and buy a lot. I just
mean every single one except NA because we already did that.
But let's start it off with E M E A.
We move into the first day and Alliance is your winner,
followed by MOUSEI Sports and you got sp or sorry
SJP two and Team Nemesis in fourth dawn. What do

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you got from the first day of E M E A.

Speaker 5 (02:03:27):
I mean, again, it's just another Alliance masterclass. You know,
not really too surprising given we know the talent that
they have. It was kind of a first game, didn't
really get off the greatest start, but then, of course,
in Alliance fashion, they dropped a twenty kill winning game two,
a eleven kill winning game three, and kind of just
you know, walked the rest of the way to the

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end of the day. And yeah, I mean it's just
it's just kind of rense and repeat with Alliance. It
feels like at this point you know they're they're going
to control the region and do their thing. It's just
not really too big of a surprise there. I think
the two biggest story lines from this day isn't necessarily
the teams that were at the top of the leader board,
even though it was good to see the newer roster

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of Maos formally forbidden with Luka doing well getting second.
Cool thing to see because obvious see a big fan
of Luka with how good he is, and I know
zero Nothing and Aku are both two very solid players,
so big shout out to them getting second place. It
was a twenty three point gap from Alliance, so not
really close to first, but hey, best of the rest

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isn't necessarily a bad thing. But the two big things
was seeing Gaming Gladiators get sixteenth and ten K, which
is Kasher's team, get eighteenth. Two teams you just again
do not expect to be towards the bottom of the
leaderboard just struggled minorly throughout the day. I know Kasher's
team especially they've had some rough patches. They made a
switch adding g Dolphin as their new third and unfortunately

(02:04:54):
just did not seem to work out too well. There
was some tweets from Kashera basically mentioning that this will
be his last split of Competitive Apex, which, if that
is the case, obviously will be the end of an
error for a popular player that everybody's known for quite
some time. Again, his shining moment be in the third

(02:05:14):
place at year three Champs when they had that three
B three against TSM to win it. But again, cool,
you know, amazing career if it is the case, but
unfortunately struggling right now, so at this time may not
be qualifying for the next land and obviously GG adding
Funk into the mix unfortunately does not seem to be

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translating to better placement right now, which we'll get into
it a little bit later. But they with it being
such a small qualification this region, anytime you have a
bad day, it really just compounds, you know, how tight
knit and how many you know mistakes that if you
keep making them just in a bad position you're going

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to be in overall moving forward. So just seeing them
at sixteenth only having fourteen kills and only nine placement
points just a really unfortunate day for gaming gladiators, and
you hope they can bounce back moving forward.

Speaker 1 (02:06:09):
Yeah, the first day seemed to be Alliance. Really they
kind of separated themselves from the rest of the pack.
As we move into Sunday here though a little bit
different story.

Speaker 2 (02:06:18):
They still win.

Speaker 1 (02:06:18):
Alliance wins both days second place an Ex Sports, third
place Navy, and then fourth place Go Next.

Speaker 2 (02:06:26):
But on this day, Dawn, it was a lot closer.

Speaker 1 (02:06:29):
And I think that can be said with having Navvy
and a lobby, it's going to change things up a
little bit. Go Next you could even say that as well,
but go through kind of what happened on Sunday in
the mea, Yeah, just.

Speaker 6 (02:06:41):
A lot more parody.

Speaker 5 (02:06:42):
In the day, we had a Go Next coming out
early and getting the first win with eleven kills. That
was with Face Clank and and second and Alliance and third.
You move into game two that Nephlum ended up getting
the win, and we had Team War which is Arctic
and Sherb their team a great job getting the second
place there. Alliance then pops up getting the win in

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game three, followed by Phase finally getting on the board
with the first place Alliance in second, Nabi third. In
game four Nephlim then again pops up winning game five
and then Ronan playing quite the comp of Raithh Revenant
Mirage when a crazy last end game where they had
to right to win that game, they got knocked multiple times,

(02:07:26):
but thanks to the Mirage the Mirage Invisible res pulled
out a pretty crazy win. But again, just looking at
the overall match series again he had Alliance getting first,
Nephlim second, and then followed by Nabby and Go Next.
A really big day for Go Next. They definitely needed it.
They had been kind of in that precarious position of

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like ninth, tenth, eleventh, where in Amia that doesn't qualify
you for e WC, so they jump up to fourth
with that result, which is definiely huge for them. NAVI
and Alliance basically have cemented themselves at this point. Obviously
Alliance is already qualified for WC, but NAB seems to
be with the switch to from Zadan over to Slab

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definitely has seemed to keep up their form in Pro
League getting the third overall, and they basically have cemented
themselves as well at the ninety eight point mark, sitting
second overall in the overall standings. But again, that really
solid day for Naby and again, anytime you can get
those top threes, you are definitely feeling really good.

Speaker 1 (02:08:28):
Yeah, as we move into the overall standings here in EMEA,
like you said, there's really only two places that are
absolutely locked in. You got Alliance and Navy at one
hundred and seven points and ninety eight points.

Speaker 2 (02:08:39):
But after that, the rest of the leaderboard is very,
very close.

Speaker 1 (02:08:43):
You've got sixty nine, sixty eight, sixty seven, and then
sixty three to sixty two all in that top eight
region and it doesn't get any further apart as you
go further down the list.

Speaker 2 (02:08:55):
So there is a lot of opportunity here.

Speaker 1 (02:08:57):
And one thing I wanted to bring up, don is
I look over out of team we talked about last week,
we talked about phase clan. You look at their first
two days zero points and one point, and since then
they've had eighteen points, nine and fourteen. Now they're still
sitting at sixteenth overall. But I had said last week,
like what is going on? You look at an org

(02:09:17):
like phase, you look at a team like phase, and
you're wondering, what the hell has been happening with this roster,
And quietly over the last few weeks they've been compiling
some points. Now I don't know if this is going
to be enough to translate and move them forward into EWC.
But you got a wonder as the team moves forward
a little bit, what do you think's been mixing up
or changing for phase to see like this little bit

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over of a resurgence moving towards the end of the
season so far.

Speaker 5 (02:09:44):
I mean, honestly, I think it's just been time together.
I mean, we've talked about it. We were talking about
within a the cohesion like a sentinels roster, you know,
that was built over time and it started to produce results. Again,
you can you can go in an apex and throw
any players together, and he was on paper they just
automatically produce results right away.

Speaker 6 (02:10:03):
Sometimes that's just not the case.

Speaker 5 (02:10:04):
You know, you got to get used to playing with
certain individuals together, really build that chemistry, because there's so
many times you see in fights where you feel like
you know where somebody on your team is going to swing,
or when they're going to back up, or the case is,
and then all of a sudden, you see they go down.
You're like, what the hell happened? Like why you push
up that far? Or why'd you back up or why
did you bait me? You know, so many different possibilities

(02:10:25):
right in the three V threes. So I think it's
just been a time thing. I know they've made some
switches with the roster and have been playing. I think
they had switched to Tyler recently. Let me just pull
this up just real quick, just because I want to
make sure I get that right. They were playing this week. No,
they had made the switch from Tyler, and they had

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had belief Nags.

Speaker 6 (02:10:50):
Had joined the roster.

Speaker 5 (02:10:51):
So really with this team, I think they kind of
have a little bit more of a defined roles, whereas
like Tyler, you kind of see him as like a
fragging time player, and so is Zaane, So you have
two of them are a little bit more used to
like fragging and maybe not necessarily being like the refragger
or like more of a backline guy. I think with
Nags you kind of get a little bit more of

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a natural back line guy or a refragger, depending on
kind of what concert are running. Because seneticans up by
gLing that team. And then obviously we've all seen Sane
in the past with how good of a fragger he is,
so it could be really a case of now they
have a little bit more defined roles within the team,
and that could be definitely a big part of why
they're are producing better results. And you definitely got give

(02:11:32):
them credit. You know, they were thirtieth after two match
days and now, like you said, they pop up here
and they are sixteenth overall. Again, they've played the five
match days, so there's still some other teams kind of
around them that probably could pop up and get over them.

Speaker 6 (02:11:46):
With the overall standings.

Speaker 5 (02:11:48):
But again, if you told me after two match days
that they even are giving themselves a pretty solid shot
at being pretty good for regional finals, that's definitely big
for them. Again for those who may not have seen
it before or maybe not heard about it all the
other regions outside of North America, it is eight teams
that qualify to EWC, and for EBA Alliance can finish

(02:12:10):
wherever they want and they're qualified, so there's really only
seven spots you're competing for, and so really just getting
into that regional final, like we mentioned in the NA segment,
and giving yourself a chance. That's basically what FASE is
looking to do right now, because they're a roster that
they can win a match point regional final if it's
on the right day. They got the right players in
the right chemistry. I think over time that they can

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easily win a match point finals. So it's really just
about getting into that final twenty and giving yourself a chance.

Speaker 1 (02:12:40):
Yeah, so that is eme EA and we're going to
move on into a Pac North here. As we move
into Apac North, you go into the first day and
Fanatic a familiar face sitting atop the standings. It was
a close day, but they win overall with seventy four points.
Right behind them is Nosey Fox, then So ten and
then Team High in fourth place Dawn. As we move

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and look into a Pac North, Fanatic has been on
and off kind of all season, and it feels like
for a little bit now you don't really know which
team you're getting when you go into any sort of
situation from Fanatic. On this day, it seems like we
get back to the Fanatic that we've all known and loved.
What else did you see from this first day Saturday

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of APAC North.

Speaker 5 (02:13:26):
Yeah, I think, like I've mentioned with Fanatic before that
it was always gonna take time for these guys to
figure out how one plays, you know, with each other
because they came from all from three different teams, So
anytime you have that, it's definitely gonna takes some time
to figure out. Again, like I mentioned with Phase, you
know how the dynamics go to work within the team.
Obviously with Yuka, he's gonna be the main guy on

(02:13:49):
the team and gonna be the one that's really progressing
them as a team and really leading them, you know,
whether it's fight decisions or macro decisions. But really again
with Libel, as with Colonel Garcia, this is their first
big team. There's a lot of eyes and Fanatic Obviously,
over the years, Fanatic has always been that team that
everybody has kind of counted on out of a pac North.

(02:14:11):
I mean, I think there's it's been like three or
four or five like straight pro leagues that they've won
or splits that they've won, just over the years, from
year three to year four to now. So it'll be
interesting to see if they can keep that up because
like I said, I think we're really seeing the duality
of a new team that is has a potential to
be really good. You know, we see them winning match days,
but we also see them you know, getting a fifteenth

(02:14:33):
or sixteenth and I really compare them to like they
might be like a version of like a vertise pro
where like they have a really high ceiling, but they
also have some of these days they just pop up
in like a twelfth or thirteenth or fourteenth year just
like what like what the hell happened? Like this team
is so much better than that. So I think again,
it's gonna be a team that if they can figure
out the right buttons at the right time. Apac North

(02:14:55):
right now is a very wide open region. They unfortunately
don't really have like that heavy hit hitter right now
that we're all you know, Finac usually is that team
along with maybe one or two others. So well, it'll
be interesting to see how Fanatic continues on moving forward,
because again, they definitely have potential. It's all there in
front of them, but it's just finding that consistency with
a new roster that always takes time.

Speaker 1 (02:15:17):
Yeah, and then we move on into the final day
Sunday for Apac North, you've got Solal Gaming. I believe
that's how you say that, Nosy Fox once again v
G and then Keinotrope Gaming with Enter Force thirty six,
the hat I am currently wearing, sitting there at fifth. Now,
don you say there is no heavy hitter in the
APAC North region. But I think we have mentioned Nosy

(02:15:40):
Fox a lot here and they don't win the day obviously,
and it was a kind of a banger day from
Solaal Gaming seventy points compared to fifty nine from Nosey Fox.
But we've mentioned them a lot and they're sitting number
one overall on in the standings right now. What's what's
hitting for Nosey Fox.

Speaker 5 (02:15:59):
Yeah, they've definitely really shown a consistency across all the
match days. They are the current leader in a PAC
North Pro league. So it's definitely been a really fun
story to watch. It's three players that everybody knows. You know,
these guys, you know, Sutuki Laiko obviously just came from
the Fanatic and then for Rufa, these are all players

(02:16:20):
that have a ton of experience that again, if you
kind of you figure out that right mix, you know,
you get the right roles within the team, and these
new teams can definitely flourish. And I really think them
adding in Laika with all the experience that he's built
from Fanatic has really produced a lot of consistent, consistent performances.
And I mean they're they're doing it with placement points,

(02:16:41):
they're doing it with kills. I mean they had twenty
six kills to go along with the placement points. I
think if I do my math right, that's.

Speaker 6 (02:16:47):
Like thirty eighty three.

Speaker 5 (02:16:48):
Yeah, so they Yeah, they can do it both ways,
whether it's placement, whether it's kills, And anytime you can
do that, you can produce these consistent performances like they have.
So it's it's been a really story to see because
especially like I mentioned, when Apac North it is kind
of lacking that big story to talk about since Fanatic
isn't necessarily the consistent fanatic we're used to seeing. It's

(02:17:09):
nice to see at least one team kind of pop
up in that spot and be like, hey, we can
be that team, you know, we can be that one
that you know takes the headlines and maybe has that
power shift maybe away from a fanatic and are the
new face and the new hopes for Apac North to
win another land.

Speaker 1 (02:17:26):
Now, as we move into the overall standings here, I've
already mentioned Nosy Fox and is not necessarily close. They're
sitting at eighty eight points in first place. Next is
our RX behind them at seventy two, So there's a
reasonable gap here. Then you have GHS Boom right below that.
So we look over at this overall standings here and
for the most part, you could say a lot of
these teams in the upper area are pretty safe, but

(02:17:50):
there still is, like you mentioned, only the eight spots.
So going into this don when you look at the
overall standings, are there any teams that you're thinking or
at least wondering how they're not sitting in a better
position as we get near, like closer and closer to
the end of the season.

Speaker 5 (02:18:09):
Yeah, one team I'm kind of surprised. I'll mention just
really quick because I think this is a story we've
mentioned a few times now. Crazy Raccoon has just been
a really unfortunate team to see because they obviously, again
you know, just over a year ago, we're the first
team to kind of break the dynasties and end up
breaking through as the reject went in at the time.

(02:18:31):
And I see them sitting down in twenty seventh, I mean,
they're gonna struggle even to make the regional final. And
that's just not something you expect from a roster that's
got an Opie and a Karampu in the same June.
So we'll have to see what these what they do
over these last couple of match days because there's no
guarantee they even get inside the top twenty, so they're
gonna have a lot of work to put in. I

(02:18:52):
think the other team I'm mainly interested to see where
they go from here is Reject because we've seen Reject
have a match day win and we've seen them absolutely struggle,
and I think there's so much potential with that roster. Again,
when they won the match day, they looked really good.
They were getting a ton of kills. You know, this
is a roster it's got me a kay, it's got

(02:19:12):
Euris that a lot of.

Speaker 6 (02:19:13):
NA fans would know.

Speaker 5 (02:19:14):
So it's somebody that they've got the double block. So
they've got a good opportunity to jump up very high,
but they can't really afford to kind of shoot one
of those bullets away, right, Like, they really have to
have two match days that they both pop off and
perform very well to kind of jump into that top eight.
The good news for them is that this is the
only region where they don't have like an automatically qualified

(02:19:37):
team from the open, so it is a true eight
spots that do qualify again unless the regional final winner
is outside the top eight in the par league standings.
So it'll be very interesting to see, I think, how
this reject team does and see if they can kind
of creep their way back into the top eight, because
I mean, we're looking at the eighth place right now,
sitting at fifty three, they're sitting at forty eight, and

(02:19:57):
I mean you go all the way down to nineteenth
place is at forty four points. Again, there is so
much room for so many things to happen in so
many storylines to come in. I'll be very interesting what
this reject roster does.

Speaker 2 (02:20:10):
And now don we moved into the final region, Apax South.

Speaker 1 (02:20:14):
We move into the first day on Saturday, we had
soul Esports taking the day, JD Gaming right behind them,
we Boo Gaming and then Frozen Cat. Don Let's talk
about a Pack South a little bit here. What happened
with APAX South on the first day.

Speaker 5 (02:20:32):
So it it's just such a crazy region because I
don't know if you saw, but there were seventeen teams
and they.

Speaker 2 (02:20:40):
Just looked at the bottom. Yeah, there's three team it is.

Speaker 5 (02:20:45):
It's just crazy to see some of the things that
have taken place with this with this region. I mean again,
we had mentioned like a Lonely Let Gone situation that
took place where they had to play as a duo
last week and the guy that was there third was.

Speaker 6 (02:21:03):
Was watch party in them.

Speaker 5 (02:21:04):
And then they go to try I don't know if
I even told you this, but they went to pick
up a new third. That third was still on one
of the teams that was getting set to be disbanded,
but they hadn't disbanded yet when they were doing the
POI draft and they drafted POIS next to where Lonely
Let go On would drop so they could try to
get more loot. And then ALGs people found out banned

(02:21:27):
that third, so then they had to find a different
third to add into the roster. It's just like some
of these storylines that come out of Apax South. It
is just like it's just so comical at times, like
I don't even know what think about It's definitely it
really is, to say the least. But uh, in terms
of the gameplay though, SA comes out and I think

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this is a roster that a lot of people expect
to be very good and very solid with the players
that they have. Again, that's sharky that Again we don't
even mention Zaccolades. He's a multi time Land winner. And
they've got Jesco and Legacy, who arguably outside of obviously
like the Alliances and things like that, have had some
of the best runs as a duo. They just played

(02:22:08):
with Phony at the last Champs and there are very
solid roster. They played so many end zones so well
this weekend. They've got I think they had won two
games throughout the weekend. Yeah, they won game two. In
game six, and I mean game six, it was such
an easy win because they just did such a good
job of controlling space, shepherding teams to have to fight

(02:22:30):
each other instead of them, and just it was such
a clinical performance that it's like, yeah, I'm not surprised
that one of their main players has won multiple Lands.
So as stef a roster, I'm keeping my eye on
as someone that could sneak into the conversation of you know, hey,
they could fight for a top five, top three at
a Land. So I'll be very interested to see what
they do, and yeah, again it's just the just the

(02:22:55):
region of chaos is really the one other thing I
can mention about this day one.

Speaker 1 (02:22:58):
So it literally is the region of chaos. Everything is
funny about APAC South. It's just always something's always something's
always going on in APAX South. As we move into
the final day on Sunday, we have VK Gaming, a
usual suspect up top and it wasn't necessarily close, and
we got bear Claw Gaming right behind them, Levithan and

(02:23:18):
then rival E Sports Don we move into Sunday, these
are the teams that we see. Once again, there was
only seventeen teams playing in this one, so let's run
through it.

Speaker 2 (02:23:30):
What happened on Sunday.

Speaker 5 (02:23:33):
Yeah, I mean it was basically just VK's VK Gamings day.
They just came out and really, outside of one game,
had basically double digit points for basically all of the games,
and it was just a very clinical performance.

Speaker 6 (02:23:50):
Again.

Speaker 5 (02:23:50):
Yeah, they literally had just game one where they had
four points and the rest of the time they had
double digits. Again, they're one of the teams that definitely
is a step up step above the rest of the reeks.
And again, it's been another really cool story to see
because they weren't very well known before Split two Playoffs
of year four. They go to Germany, they get a
top ten, they got a chance, they back up another

(02:24:10):
top ten, kind of struggled this last land. When I
say struggle, they still made finals, so like their struggle
is making a finals, which is pretty damn good. But
just again a team that has proven that they're very flexible.
A lot of people said that they were just a
crypto team. Crypto gets banned game one, and they still
go on and drop a bunch of nukes. I mean

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literally their worst game was when they were running Crypto,
so I mean they don't even run Crypto actually when
I look at it now, so they've well moved past
being a one trick with Crypto. So I think it's
a very impressive to see they're taking advantage of the sparrow,
which I think is something that's probably provided them a
little bit more flexibility in terms of, you know, being
truly together in a three B three fight, which is

(02:24:52):
maybe why we're kind of seeing them pop off a
little bit more kills because they don't have to take
as many fights as like a two B three like
you do with crypto. Sometimes it's more a tree with
three B three now that you have spare out and
especially with how good his ault is. So it's just
again a very clinical performance overall from them things that
we Again I am personally a big fan of this roster,

(02:25:13):
and it's yeah, it's just another top performance that I
believe put them first overall in the region. So it
is yeah, it is Yeah again just another name. I
think the two teams really that you're looking at from
this region is VK Gaming and S eight. I went
through I will throw out al Katsi in there. We'll
get to them here in a second.

Speaker 2 (02:25:33):
Yeah, I bring this up.

Speaker 6 (02:25:35):
Yeah, but go ahead.

Speaker 1 (02:25:36):
No, I was just gonna say, like, it is funny
looking at VK Gaming they have kind of they're kind
of really the only solidified team. I think you could
make the case for S eight and Ging. Once again,
I screw up a team name. I called them sol
E Sports. But those like maybe you could say those
top three teams, but when you look at VK Gaming,
you have twenty five one, so it's just an interesting

(02:26:00):
little line up there.

Speaker 2 (02:26:00):
But I mean they've won three of the days.

Speaker 5 (02:26:03):
Yeah, it's yeah, it's it's super impressive. Again, they've shown
the consistency across multiple match days, and when you really
think about the teams that kind of stack and like,
you know, who's probably gonna be our top ten at Lands,
it's hard to not at least keep them in mind
because of how consistent they've been. I know a lot
of people have talked Apax out down as a region,
but I really do think outside of like the craziness

(02:26:25):
maybe at the bottom of this of the leaderboard, there's
definitely a few teams that typically produce really good results
at Land, and we saw even at this past Land,
I believe they had the second most teams in the
final if I remember that correctly in terms of just
like from a certain region. So they I think are
definitely on the come up when it comes to talent,
and it is uh yeah, it's just always fun to

(02:26:46):
see different storylines come from around the world.

Speaker 1 (02:26:48):
Now, when we move into the overall standings here and
we look through the list. Last week I mentioned Wolves Esports,
which is a Premier League team. I didn't even realize
this till I went through and looked, but o Kadzia
is also a soccer team from the Saudi League.

Speaker 2 (02:27:04):
So that is that is the roster that they have
over there. I found that out just.

Speaker 1 (02:27:08):
From scrolling looking around and seeing that logo pop up,
and I'm like, I've seen that logo before. Now, don
they are interesting here because, like you mentioned, they had
a very good open in New Orleans, But yet you
look at them on the leaderboard here and they're sitting
at twentieth and this is a very talented roster.

Speaker 2 (02:27:25):
What is the problem right now with al Kadzia.

Speaker 5 (02:27:29):
Well, yeah, and talking with their analysts, it definitely just
seems like when it comes to Pro League, it almost
feels like they're a team that is going to perform
better at a more constructed, like more just like organized
kind of lobby, whereas like the lobby like these lobbies
and a Pax South again, like it just you see

(02:27:50):
some of the craziest things I've seen when it comes
to like teams fighting in certain spots at certain times,
and the gameplay has definitely gotten better over the years.
But I just do think that like the just might
be a team where I thought, you know, when they
step up to the quality of like lands and things
like that, it just you know, I mean, we've seen
straight from flaying teams in the past, getting top fives

(02:28:10):
at Land, making finals at Land. I know he's kind
of struggled with the last couple lands that he's been at,
but I mean there's definitely just so much talent within
that roster with him and Pricey and player K that
it could just also be they're trying to figure some
stuff out before they go to the next land, right
because they're in the case, which is just what throws

(02:28:30):
another wrinkle into this freaking region is that they can
they cannot make regional finals and they are still going
to WC no matter what.

Speaker 2 (02:28:39):
Yeah, so it's got to play a fact or I
think a little bit too.

Speaker 5 (02:28:42):
Yeah, Yeah, it definitely could, to say the least, I know.
I guess said Panda, who's the analyst and manager for them,
is not happy where they're at, and I know they
had quite the team talk. I think the Monday after.
I remember I was watching b Rad stream and he
had mentioned, oh, yeah, like you always probably like hope
that you guys would have played a double block after

(02:29:03):
you played so bad, and Panda goes, hell, though, we
did not want to play another setup.

Speaker 6 (02:29:07):
To the way we just played.

Speaker 5 (02:29:09):
So I think they definitely will take advantage of the
week and again they're in a position where they do
get the double block this last weekend, so obviously we
see them in twentieth right now, but they are very
easily a team that could pop up and do it
winning a matchdake and need a top three and all
of a sudden, you know they're up in you know,
tenth place or something like that. But again, it's just

(02:29:30):
it's gonna be very interesting to see how these this
last weekend goes. That's a big thing I want to
make sure we mentioned is that this is the last
weekend of the regular season before we go to regional finals.
So after this weekend, we will know our twenty teams
from each region that goes their individual regional finals, and
then the following weekend on the fifteenth and the like
the fourteenth of June is when all those regional finals

(02:29:50):
will be played out. So we're gonna find out very
soon here who our EWC teams are. And with Apax
South again you've got al Katsia taken up that one spot,
there's potentially only seven spots based off of points, and again,
if you get a random regional finals winner, that's outside
that top seven, only six teams are gonna qualify based
on points, so there's so many variables that are going

(02:30:11):
on in this region. It's it's gonna be a very
fascinating thing to see. And the fun part is they're
gonna be the first region I think that plays the
regional final, so it's gonna kick off that regional final
weekend in a crazy way, so I'm excited to watch.

Speaker 2 (02:30:23):
All right.

Speaker 1 (02:30:24):
Well, ladies and gens, that should just about wrap it
up for our regional recap, going over all of the
regions in ALGs. Like Don said the last weekend, before
we find out who's going on this regional final, ladies
and gents, we are going to move forward with the
heart to heart and then send you guys on the
rest of your week. Let's get it all right, ladies
and gents, let's round it out with the heart to

(02:30:45):
heart here. Big shout out to Waltsy for hopping on
the pod for the third time. Always great to have
them on.

Speaker 4 (02:30:51):
Boys.

Speaker 1 (02:30:52):
It is hard to hard time and Don I hate
to say, but because Jumpa's not here this week, you
gotta go first.

Speaker 2 (02:30:58):
You have no choice. You have to go first.

Speaker 5 (02:31:01):
I'm pretty sure I went first last week anyway, so
it's not I think I think you forced it, but
it's all right. He body got a little upset by that,
but it's alright. Uh but no, it's uh yeah, it's
I think this this week. I'll be honest, like, it's
been a lot, you know, trying to get everything figure
out coaching wise with these guys. Like it's not like

(02:31:21):
it's hard to work with them at all, because obviously
they're they're really three of the easiest people to work with.
It's just like me mentally, from like the standard I
want to like have to where they are feeling really
good and they play well, it kind of sucks to
not see like the top fourst top fives. So I
think the biggest thing I can say for this week
for the Heart to Heart is again like I'm just

(02:31:42):
really thankful that I've got a really good support system
with not just like them working with them as players,
but just everybody again around me. I know, the week
before we had struggled really bad, and like we had
talked about, we had the longest session and it was
really great. But just anytime, you know, that just feels
like I can go talk anybody about that or talk
about life or like wherever the case is. It just

(02:32:04):
I've got a ton of people, and I've made so
many connections throughout this journey of APEX so far. And again,
i just think I'm really thankful for the amount of
people I've met, the amount of good people I've met,
and a lot of the experiences I've been able to
have in such a short amount of time. And uh yeah,
I'm just really excited to kind of keep the grind going,
especially with this double block this weekend. Definitely a lot

(02:32:24):
to prepare for. But again, I know there's a lot
of people that, you know, I can go talk to.
I mean there's even people, you know, the h the
analyst for al Kasia who is a straighting Flames team.
I've got to know him from Land and stuff like that,
and we've been talking a bunch of stuff about like
you know, like here's some strats you could use, or
here's this or here's that. So like just to have

(02:32:45):
even people like that that like you see maybe once
or twice a year to Land and they're willing to,
you know, put in some time to help you out
even though you're not even you know, working together on
the same team. I'm just I'm on a very fortunate
spot that I've met a lot of really good people.
So I think I think this week is just being
very thankful for the people I've got in my life.

Speaker 2 (02:33:02):
So hell yeah, baby, hell yeah? Do you want to go?
Do you want me to go?

Speaker 3 (02:33:10):
I'll rip what I said last week since that didn't
end up getting put out there, And it's just going
to be like just consistency over like the like the
course of of my like streaming and content career, like
there's been a lot of hills and valleys, and typically
when I end up in a little bit of a valley,
it's because I stopped being as consistent as I once was.

(02:33:32):
And like, even like recently i've been like I took
some days off for for like different holidays and and
uh and then like some family time.

Speaker 9 (02:33:40):
But like.

Speaker 3 (02:33:42):
I'm like beyond certain that as long as I continue
to show up and be consistent and put in that
hard work over a long enough time frame, that all
of the success that I can imagine is going to
be coming to me, and that I just need to
keep on showing up and putting in the work and
then one day it'll be it'll all be right in
front of me, and I'm just incredibly grateful that I'm

(02:34:04):
in an environment where I have the ability to really
like do that and focus on that. And then I'll
also just throw in that I I'm just incredibly grateful
for my family, just like the fact that I have
like an amazing wife and like my my amazing little
man that I get to spend time with and just
see him grow and develop, and that is like definitely

(02:34:26):
like one of one of the key motivators for me
to like be as consistent as I know I need
to so that I can give them the best life possible.
And I'm just grateful for them and for the work
that I get to do, because like when when I'm
at work for most of the time, right because we
all have our bad.

Speaker 4 (02:34:45):
Days regardless of what we're doing. Like, I'm genuinely thankful
to be able to do what I do.

Speaker 3 (02:34:50):
And then when I'm not doing this, I get to
be spending time with them, which I'm incredibly grateful, And
so it's just a lot of gratitude, and so mix
a whole lot of those into one.

Speaker 4 (02:35:02):
Hell, y'all call that the heart to heart.

Speaker 2 (02:35:04):
We love it. We love it my Heart to Heart
this week is actually a little bit of a plug.

Speaker 1 (02:35:09):
So last night, well actually on the other pod, the
grab My Banner Pod with all the boys, we started
a brand new season of something called Rivals Death Match
Rivals and it's where we have two v two's. We
got four teams of two players and we just do
team deathmatch against each other. And we came up with
the idea in New Orleans and we wanted to try

(02:35:31):
it out. And we just finished week two and it
was actually I think Jay and Jumba, they they did
a stream from the grab my Banner Pod Twitch. We
had like forty two people in there watching us play
two v two team death matches. Part of it has
to be because they're watching us play like shit and
we meet bad plays from some of the boys here,

(02:35:53):
I mean anytime you have Brian in a game. But
there there there's a lot of There was a lot
of fun moments. Last night, me and Don went head
to head. It was me and my boy Troy were
the Red Kaboo Silver Dollar Pancakes and then we played
Don and Chris, who is Don's big Swingers, and Don
and Chris came out on top man. They came out
on top, but it was it was a crazy game,

(02:36:16):
and I just got to say, man, I'm super excited
about this league. Hopefully we can get a few more
teams in there from if we can get Jay to
come out of retirement, maybe we get Jumba in there.
Enoch might be two above the threshold of he would
have to play solo. He would have to play solo,
and we still might lose.

Speaker 6 (02:36:36):
Lose.

Speaker 1 (02:36:37):
Yeah, So no, it's been really fun. We had a
great time Jay and Jumbo where they were broadcasting it
like it was the ALGs and it was.

Speaker 7 (02:36:46):
It was.

Speaker 2 (02:36:47):
It was a good time.

Speaker 1 (02:36:48):
Now, my teammate Troy, you know, he maybe has fifty
hours on APEX legend, so I knew when I drafted
him that it was going to be an uphill battle.
And our first ever set, we got seventeen kills as
a team. I had zero assists, if that paints a
picture for you.

Speaker 6 (02:37:10):
So that's a race twenty by the way.

Speaker 2 (02:37:13):
So it's twenty.

Speaker 1 (02:37:15):
Yeah, So you know, we we had lost all three
sets last week, tough week for the boys. Troy didn't
get any kills in the first set, but he's getting
better each and every week and we took our first
set against Don and Chris and Troy.

Speaker 2 (02:37:28):
He popped off. He had seven kills in that one,
So you know, we're we're getting better.

Speaker 1 (02:37:32):
Go Cakes, And I'm just really excited about this league
because it's fun, like we're having a great time. I
think Jay stayed up till one am VOD reviewing all
of our games to us to tell us what we
did wrong, what we could do better as teams moving forward.
So next week I got a big game against Epic
Balls and that's that's my boy Kyle's team with Historian Nate.

(02:37:55):
So we got a big game coming up. But if
you guys are wanting if you guys want to see
high to your gameplay, and you clearly do because you're
listening to an Apex competitive podcast, why don't you hop
on over to that because you're gonna see some real
competitive gameplay. You can see you're gonna see some top
notch Apex Legends gameplay over there at the two V twos.

(02:38:15):
But yeah, it was fun time Don.

Speaker 5 (02:38:18):
Yeah, I was just gonna say, like, for I was
kind of against us changing the format because I didn't
think we necessarily needed to. But with it being Wyatt
and his you Know and Kyle and Your Guys podcast.
I definitely didn't want to be one of the few
that got in the way of trying something new. And
I will say, like if there's a if there's anything
I guess I can include in No Heart to Heart

(02:38:40):
is like trying trying things that are new almost always
will be positive in some sort of way. And I
really think like this has just been a really fun time.
And again, like how this has turned into like a
mini ALGs broadcast, I have no freaking clue, Like we
got the Observer povs, we got the commenting play by
play like it's it's pretty entertaining, and it was a

(02:39:03):
it's been.

Speaker 6 (02:39:04):
A ton of fun so far.

Speaker 5 (02:39:05):
And I keep telling Chris like, no matter what happens, bro,
like we're gonna have a good time, Like even if
we lose three to oh or we win three oh,
Like it's it's definitely been It's been a lot of fun.
And I, uh, I still know need to work on
not calling my friends pieces of shit.

Speaker 6 (02:39:20):
Uh when they killed me?

Speaker 7 (02:39:22):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (02:39:23):
Why are nine the fuck out of my skull? About
twenty five times in that in that matchup? But uh no,
it's uh I mean, apparently I found some sort of
form in this fucking format because I'm top three in kills,
which I think ever that good at ever before.

Speaker 1 (02:39:39):
So it's what this has shown is like, Dawn, I
think me and you because we were bawling out at
least me and you, like just in our own lane
because my team's OZ and two right now you're two
and oh. But like in our we are very good
at just pure one v ones. We need to get
way better. When it's like three versus three, that's yeah,

(02:40:01):
like I can like my R nine is good, but
when it's three players against three players, I'm just out
in the middle of wherever the fuck, just getting beams.
I just got to figure out how to figure you know,
I got to get better at that portion of the game.
But no, I think Don's big swingers. I think they
can win the championship. We got a lot of we
got a lot of game left. You know. Chris, the
guy who famously Newcastle walled at that bar to save

(02:40:24):
our lives when a guy was rev jumping on us.

Speaker 2 (02:40:27):
So that's Chris.

Speaker 1 (02:40:28):
That's Don's teammate, which I said that they shouldn't be
teammates because Don was gonna. I told Don to draft
a legend instead of Chris because I was like, you
guys have terrible chemistry. I'm eating my words because they
they're they're two to zero. They're leading the league right now.
So yeah, if you guys want more, more, high, more,
high octane gameplay, that's where you can go.

Speaker 2 (02:40:49):
Check it out.

Speaker 1 (02:40:50):
But ladies and gents, that's my art to heart because
it's been really fun. I'm having a good time. Shout
out to Jay and Jumba for casting it. They did
kind of just ship on the entire format for the like.

Speaker 6 (02:41:00):
And Connor too, is the sideline reporter.

Speaker 1 (02:41:02):
Yeah, Connor as a sideline reporter impressive. I'm just gonna
say I didn't think it'd be that impressed. Connor is
a man a few words, which I've always respected about him,
but as a sideline reporter, he kind of lets the
personality come out.

Speaker 2 (02:41:16):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:41:17):
He asked some really good questions and uh, you know,
we'll just have to see. There was one moment where
Jay was like, Connor, what do you Connor? This thing
happened right, and Connor goes yep, and that that was
Sometimes Connor is just gonna give you those responses, which
I love and respect.

Speaker 2 (02:41:35):
Yeah that's all that matters though, But uh yeah, that's it.
Ladies and gens.

Speaker 1 (02:41:39):
Thank you guys for tuning in to another edition of
the Apex the Podcast. Next week we will be back
after some pro league uh and talking about what's going
to happen as we get closer and closer to EWC,
So stick around for all of that. Ladies and Jen
say you guys for tuning in. We will catch you
guys next week for another edition of the ape Hex

(02:42:00):
the Podcast.

Speaker 2 (02:42:01):
See you