Episode 131: Split 2 Pro League Day 1 Recap + Regional Recap & H2H

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Everyone, Welcome back to another edition of the Apex. The
podcast Ladies and Gentlemen, Split two is live and we're
already through the first week. We have a double we
have a double day. We have a double day coming
up here this weekend, so we're gonna get you ready
for that in a little bit. But let's talk about
what has just happened here right now. What happened? I

(00:40):
don't know. I thought you were doing some sort of dance.
I was like, okay, cool, that's a good.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Way to start.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah. Yeah, So I guess the storyline for this week
would kind of be a lot of teams you'd expect
to do well didn't And uh, they were a lot
of them near the bottom. Really the only ones that
I could talk about here, ZZ and ROC. But let's
go through the standings roll kick. We'll kick it off
with ZZ. They were your winners of the day first
place with sixty four points. Second place was KCP with

(01:09):
sixty third place with was ROC at fifty four, and
fourth the Do Rags at forty nine points. And this
one was interesting, man. There was a lot of teams
you wouldn't expect to get wins that were getting wins here.
Throughout the day. Uh, it was just an odd one.
It was an odd one overall. And I feel like
we always see one of these days randomly throughout a

(01:30):
Pro League split, but we had it the first day, uh,
and it was a weird one. So Dawn, from your
side of things, what did you notice the most from
just some of the other teams that you wouldn't have
expected to show up here in Day one?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, I mean, honestly, it was just a lot of
these teams. Again, you don't expect really, you know, they
don't have the experience. It don't maybe expect them to
come off the gate uh necessarily hot. But a lot
of these teams just didn't seem afraid of the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I feel sometimes when we get some of these qualifier
teams that come in for the first time, you know,
it takes kind of a couple of match days for
them to show up because they got to get used
to the pace of like an actual you know, Pro
league match day, things like that. But I mean, we
saw some of these teams that again first time in
Pro League, and they absolutely showed up and were ready
from the get go. I mean, do Rags was a
team that again, I think I believe all of them

(02:21):
on the roster are first time in pro league, and
I mean they were so consistent throughout the day. I
was very impressed at them. I know DMG was another
team that finished top five that I don't think I
had as much experience or little experience in pro league.
They were really consistent for most of the day. I
honestly think the biggest surprise for me though, might be

(02:42):
caseyp I mean, Sirse coming in. There's been a lot
of discourse with how his story has been so far
in Pro league and being a pro the Tier one level.
I believe he's also now igling, which is the first
time he's ever I led at this level or possibly
at all. And they just ran it down. I mean
they led the lobby and kills. I mean, they were

(03:05):
killing some teams that you don't expect them to kill
in a straight out three v three and overall it
is just honestly a very impressive performance by KCP Jump.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
But from your side of things, we've talked about how
the way that they formatted this ALGs season. It's kind
of unfortunate because this second split has lost a lot
of its luster for a lot of the teams who
were already at the top, and for some of these
other teams, it's going to be so difficult for them
to squeak in. Really, the only way they're going to
be able to do it is if they win the
Pro League or if they win in the regional finals.
So do you think they're kind of just like, fuck it,

(03:36):
we just got to send it. That's the only way
we're gonna be able to do anything and make it
to Japan.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
I guess like every day has to be good, like
because you if you are teams like KCP, do Bags DMG,
you want to like keep going to Japan, like you
have to win. So like, yeah, like I'm sure those
teams are pretty stoked if they could find a way
to keep it up, like I do remember the beginning
of last split, I could I actually even probably find

(04:02):
it pretty quick. For example, Like I know, like we
always talk about the Falcons, and like on last like thing,
we were talking about our predictions and we all talked
about Falcons winning and they go out and they get tenth, right,
Falcons started off last bit like really bad and then
came back and won. I already strolled past. I remember
having it on my post page. But like even aside

(04:25):
from like talking about Falcons and such there, Yeah, they
got thirteenth to start at the beginning. For these teams
that you were talking about here, like do Rags, DMG
Pioneers like you know, even leave no witness whoes up
there and everything like that, that's gonna be a pretty
good thing for them, like to know that they finish
like top five, top six, and to know that like
if they keep having days like that, they give themselves

(04:45):
a better chance to get to Japan at the very
least get a good seating for a regional final and
see what they could do there. So yeah, I wo'd agree.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, And when we talked about earlier that there was
a lot of teams that you would expect to do
well that didn't, And it kind of starts with Falcons there.
They sit at tenth, which to their standard is a
lot lower than they'd like to be. But then you
also had Ape Gang down below Sentinels. You had nice
guys Team Liquid TSM at sixteenth, Ninja's in Pajamas at seventeenth,
DKK at eighteenth, and even Hot Dog Mafia down there

(05:16):
at nineteenth. And so you have these players who have
had historically good, you know, performances at lands and in
pro leagues and stuff like that, getting off to a
rough start here. A lot of them probably still in
a position to qualify and make it through there. And
we had talked before this split had started about motivation
and what it's going to mean for some of these

(05:37):
teams going in. How hard is it going to be
when you know that there's not a whole lot like
on this split. And I think that, you know, hopefully
we get a change in the next ALGs season so
we don't have something like this again. But I don't know,
you can't just chock it up to the lack of motivation.
It was also just a weird day all the way
through overall. But is there any team that stood out

(06:01):
to you? Don and I guess we should probably start
off with the team that won, which was Teams e
Z just from your perspective watching them, I don't believe
they actually got to win in this day. They did
get a second place, but they were getting a ton
of KP.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, I mean z Z. You know, obviously they are
the ex energy roster except for bringing in Zach as
the as the I g L now with Guild and Pykes. Yeah,
really it was. It was interesting to watch because again,
you know we've had Guild and Sykes. They had played
together last split, so they kind of had some chemist
charity built there. But obviously those two kind of having

(06:37):
two adjust to how you know, Zach plays and how
he i g l's and how things work. You know, izy,
Zach is very good at what he does. You know,
he's an IGL. It's been around long enough, so it's
not like they're bringing in like a brand new ijail
and anything. So like in a perfect world, you know,
things will work out smoothly, right, but it's APEX, so
you never can get you know, bank on that. But
I was just really impressed with how well those two

(06:59):
were able to playoff of Zach's calls because I think
that again, Zach calls things maybe just a little bit differently.
You know, they played some different spots or different plays
that maybe you don't traditionally would play, you know when
you see some of these other IGLS call. So I
think them just being able to trust Zach immediately right away,
trust the calls that he's making, and also those two

(07:20):
just playing off each other very well in fights. I
mean a lot of the time Zach was on Crypto,
so it really was those two just having to fight.
And I think we really saw, you know, Guild continuing
to be Guild with how good he is in fights,
and really Psych's continuing to show that, you know, even
though he may not be like the fragging role, he
has the ability to absolutely pop off in fights as well.
And I mean there was a moment on a district

(07:42):
where they have absolutely no right to survive this situation
they're getting like it's in one of the like lower
I don't even know how to describe. It's really hard
without the visual, but basically they're just two rooms right
next to each other. There's only one hallway that divides it.
The other team has every chance to wipe them, and
Guild and Sych just go absolutely nuclear to keep the
team alive. Zach had gone down, so it literally was

(08:04):
just those two and they're able to fend the team
off enough to reset and move on to Lady in
the game. So I think as we continue to see
Guild and Sykes's dynamic as a fighting duo, along with
their trust and Zach continuing to build, I think they've
got really something special cooking with ZZ, and I think
it's a team that you're going to have to keep
an eye on as the splick goes on.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, so a big shout out from ZZ. Hopefully they
get an ORGS soon. I feel like this roster's too
good to get an organ. Then we also get my
favorite thing in the world, which is the yo yo
effect of Zach Maser. You know, there's gonna be weeks
where he's at the top, there might be some weeks
where he's at the bottom, And we just happened to
get one this week. Having to get a week one well.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Because we have Sykes coming on. I was like reviewing
some of the stuff and I was saying to the
guys in discord, is like, if you remember when we
talked to psych or to talk to Zach, you know,
a couple of months ago I was bringing up. I
was like, man, like, he just seems like really underrated,
Like people don't talk about his igelling nearly on the
level of like other top By yells. But whenever I
watch him and he's on, I'm like, man, this guy

(09:05):
just like conjured up an amazing plan to get his
team to this spot and do this and like any
micros to the point where it reminds me a lot
of like the way people used to give a ton
of credits' sweet And I think I watch games every
time Zach is like on the ball, because like, I
gotta watch them games where the teams like they're not
having a good day, because I'm like, what is happening
when they're off? Because like when they're on, I'm like,

(09:28):
how do you just not like fucking win the day?
But there's clearly something going wrong when they're off, And
I need to look into that because it's funny because,
like you said, it feels like a yo yo, I'm like,
how can you be doing good right now? And then
like half days where they just dropped to the bottom
like they did after after we interviewed them. Are we
jinxing this team again? Do you think Zach's can like
don't get on the call?

Speaker 1 (09:46):
It could be that. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised. I
wouldn't be surprised. I think, dude, it does seem like
that should be something we do in the future, because
I've never thought of that. I always just watch him
when they're doing good. I just want to like how
much of it is bad luck, like how much of
it is just it's just happenstance, Like something crazy happens
that wouldn't normally happen. I just got to go back

(10:07):
and look at it because it's insane. It's even crazier too,
because it just feels like he gets in these situations
sometimes where it's like the perfect iteration of the zach
Maser effect was them contesting Nasky and then all of
a sudden dropping one of the craziest games of all
time in Jurassic on storm Point. Like, yeah, right after

(10:28):
they finally get to play the game, they win with
a shit ton of kills. It's it's beautiful, It's it's
one of the funnest things to watch.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
It's like Guild and Psychs when you go Accolade's base.
This is the best team probably Zacs had ever. I
don't know, like he's had good players who are up there, Like,
you know, he played with Naughty al back in the day.
Uh he played I think with Naughty knocked. Uh. Yeah,
there's that whole situation that was way back way back.

(10:55):
You know, shoot the zapp obviously you're great, and you know,
if I think they had a different outcome at LA
that he would have stuck together and done great things.
But Guild Sykes, you know, like even like loose Layer,
like you know, like they're they're good players, but Guild
Sikes a crazy team, like the zac's best team he's at.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, I mean I wouldn't argue with that at all. Like,
just looking back at all the rosters, like one hundred percent,
I could I could see that.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Although have multiple top five finishes land, yeah, fourth, last,
like thing, like, you know, it's gonna ben exciting team
to watch.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, And I was listening back to our first interview
with Sikes years and years and years ago when he
was still on on X set and just thinking about
from that version of him to now and how much
accolades he's added since then, and it's just like, damn,
Like it's kind of just it's it's crazy the arc
that he's been on, and then you you pair him
with Zach and and then you have Guild on the

(11:49):
other side of it. Man, It's just it's gonna be interesting.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
The funny thing I've always said about Sykes, if you
look at his stay at his UH, at his placement,
he goes fourth and fourth Missus fine for Lan, and
he goes like second, third, Missus Finals for Lan, and
then recently he went seven, eighth, seventh Missus Finals for Lan,
Like my man is having like a fucking stellar performance
and then Missus Finals the next Lant he's got two

(12:14):
in them, so champs. Maybe he fucking talked three.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Maybe that's it. Maybe maybe his next iteration is one
one Missus Finals for at that point, you know.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Take that trade off, yeah all day, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
He take it all day.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Guild is even more heartbreaking. I think Guild has the
most second place finishes.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Like that's actually insane.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Who were we interviewing that said that they looked over
at Guild when like when when when the lands ended
and you could just see the pain in his face,
Like I don't I don't remember, but like I remember
who it was. Yeah, was this someone that team?

Speaker 3 (12:48):
It had to be some of the teams with.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
It had to be somebody who's teaming with.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah, because like like no, it's like it's like they
felt pain. But as Guild, Moore looked like it's a
thing of like just utter defeat in the sense of
like this has happened again to me, I can't believe
this like it was like that.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Uh, we're staying rock hard, boys, We're staying rock hard.
They picked up where they left off. They're right back.
They're right back winning games, sixteen kill, first place win
for ROC. They're looking good. Some are saying that it's
a podcast buff because Deeds was on last week. I'm
not saying that. I think it's just the media. I
think I think New York Times pick it up. I
saw it on ESPN, so, you know, thank you guys,

(13:28):
I guess, but we're not really asking for the credit.
We we just we just had a good time with Deeds,
and that's really what it comes down to, you know.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Shot See they've they've been good, like yeah, you know, Deeds,
they like they have a lot of confidence that they're
rolling with right now.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
I love to see it now. On the other side
of that, the interview that we had before that, we
had Nip Ninjus have been jam Is down there at
seventeenth and the final game, I heard mcleven scream fuck
and then immediately turned stream off after he slammed his desk.
Hopefully he has the desk guy, the apex the pod.
I think that maybe that's where it cut off as

(14:04):
he was ending stream. That's what he was trying to say.
But out of all the teams that didn't do as well, Don,
was there one that kind of surprised you, I.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Think it probably was an ip I. Really again, I
feel like they typically do a good job of making
the best of most situations where they get his zone
poll to them pull away from them, Like they've been
able to play zone, they've been able to play for kills,
and we just never really saw them kind of have
like those fights that kind of got them going, because
I think this is a very like a team that

(14:36):
once they kind of snowball and win a bunch of fights,
Like it's imm eager to see them put up thirty
point games. I mean, I think, what was the regional
finals they had like back to back like twenty twenty
five point games or something like that, Like I gain
if it was regional finals or like a pro league
finals and Land I think, yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Yeah, like EWC they did it. They had like a
twenty four or two back to back twenty fours and
then regional final they had I think two back to
back wins are like two crazy games.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah yeah, So like it's just a team that, like,
you know, it's just like when that one fight like
triggers them, they are able to win, like a clean
thirty thigs or something. They again can just snow all
that into a huge win or just a huge you
know KP game. And yeah, again, it just really seemed
like they never found that fight that really got them going.
I mean, yeah, I mean just even seeing you know,

(15:18):
Vane with only two kills on the day, mcleven with
only four, right with only five, I mean, that's just
not numbers you expect this roster to have. But I know,
a big thing again that I think that I do
want to mention with a lot of these teams potentially struggling,
is that we're a couple of really key changes to
the evos and ring timings. Because with the ring timing,

(15:41):
it's usually started when the first ring would pop at
sixty seconds and now it's forty. And the EVO cash
spawned time was eighty seconds like into the game and
now it's ninety five. And for APEX, when everything is
so timing based, when it comes to like rotates or
setting up your your plans or whatever the case is is,
you know you have to always include the evos in

(16:02):
your pathing. So now when you're seeing oh wait, like
we still got to wait that additional fifteen seconds, see
where it spawns, that just gives more teams time, you know,
it's a little bit more, and then you have so
many teams that are converging on these evos. And I
just think that really was this first week was the
adjustment period of like, yeah, you can play that out

(16:23):
in scrims. You know, you can practice as much as
you can, but it just is not going to be
the same like a match day. So I really think
that yes, like n IP definitely struggled in three thirty,
there's a lot of things that, like individually that they
did that made their day as bad as it was.
But I think when you see this many teams that
we expect to do well don't do well, I think

(16:44):
changes like that are a huge thing to point to
because again, just when everything is so much about timing
in this esport, any changes that you see is going
to make the game shift on its head. And I
just think that we saw a lot of that in
this first match day. But again specifically and IP, I
expect them to bounce back, but again we'll just have
to see you going into this weekend.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
And Jumba going into not just timing changes for you know,
the beacons and the sorry the ebos, but we also
had a lot of legend changes and a lot of
weapon changes. And now I know that a lot of
times these are the best players in the world, so
it doesn't take as long for them to adapt. But
I would say that probably some players have a certain

(17:26):
preference that leans towards whatever it is. And now it's like,
you know, we have the Peacekeeper in there, that one's
really strong as long as well as like the Area
forty five, you have the thirty thirty. You have these
different guns that are kind of getting phased in. I
think the thirty thirty was still being used at the
last land and so I think sometimes certain players are
just preferential to a different meta, and maybe this could

(17:48):
be the byproduct of a changing meta for some of
these other teams near the bottom.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah, I think, like, so we saw so much PK
on day one, but then like if you look at
it and you think like a like PK something like
three hundred and twenty nine kills in NA and or
maybe it was actually already overall. Either way, PK led
the pack and then but if you added R nine
and ARI forty five kills, the spray weapons actually kind
of take over. Really, I think, yeah, But I think

(18:15):
we'll like see that completely change. I think PK is
so strong right now. I think we're gonna see way
more Newcastle, more Gibbe, Like there's a little bit of
his showing up. I think we'll see it way more.
Even Donnie was watching Scrimstate said, can't believe we're getting Newcastle,
give you rampart again. I think we're gonna start seeing
that add up and up and up. Everyone's gonna be
running PK. I think PK is gonna take over Imperial.
How it might have been right when he said PK

(18:35):
needs the nerve I was. I put out a tweet
saying I like both guns, like spray weapons and shotguns
being in the meta. No, I think it's gonna be
a heavy shotgun meta again. That shit's so tough, and yeah,
it goes to what you're saying. I think that there's
just some players that don't excel in shotgun metals and
the other creepy person it's not even shotgun meta, it's
a PK metal specific yeah, so yeah, actually, EVA might

(18:56):
be crazy, EVA might be slept on. Maybe I'm like
going good. I think EVA is I think there's a
couple people who are gonna think about start playing with EVA.
There was an Apec North player that used EVA eight
only in drop twenty seven kills in three games, proceed
to drop five kills in his next three games after that,
but like still for four kills in the next three
games out rep but like twenty seventy his first three
apparently using EVA only. I didn't watch it. I just

(19:17):
heard Wig talking about it.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, I'll get into that later because that was insane. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I know you're it's one hundred percent to that point.
Like that's interesting. And then also the thirty thirty to
see and like not necessarily the kills obviously, but just
the playtime and damage dealt with the thirty thirty. It's
just like, yeah, I wonder what the meta gun is
for the long range and marksmen right now. But I

(19:39):
think just with how the thirty thirty set up, how
the charge rifle set up, how the Chief seven is
still really good. Like obviously all these guys are really good,
but like when you have guns that like again, charge
rifle with one shot can hit like one to ninety
across the map, Like I mean I could even do
that in a rank game, So imagine what that is
like for pro players when they have the capabilit Like

(20:01):
it just can absolutely flip any fight on its head
because you can have a straight thirty three. But if
you're like a barometer zone and you're playing on one
side of the POI, it all it takes is somebody
from the top tower to hit you for one ninety
and you're losing that three B three. It doesn't matter
what you do. So it's it's even stuff like that
you got a factor into.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Taking to what Donnie said about like so it takes
longer to evo, there's less on the map. People are
running around on fucking white shields. Alliance to the team that
like they didn't do great until like their second set
or second three games when they got into eg strikes,
but when they're on Stormpoint, they struggled because they're playing
the way they typically know how to play, they like
to play. And hackis literally tweeted out, but like he
didn't realize how much thirty thirty and the charge rifle

(20:41):
with like those armour changes everything would be to adjust to,
and that they were. He just realizes like, okay, we
have to play it completely different than what we're used to.
We can't be fucking taking these long edged rotates and
everything like that, because they were just getting absolutely deleted
out on the I think they had four points in
their stormpoint games, something like forty five in their district
games after that, so which obviously there's not as much

(21:04):
open space with all the buildings, so like, yeah, you're
able to rotate around without getting fried in the open
So yeah, the long range amount of two, it's like
we've always had poke in long range. Oh when you
factor in no helmets, white shields, you get fucking sculp
heres here by just doing damage. Now that shit, this
shit's broken. It's like, yeah, it's it's a different beast now.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Cool, and good luck trying to take balloons anymore. To rotate,
Like you try to take a balloon on edge and
everyone else is already a zone. You've got Monsoon with
his charge rifle. You got freaking all these thirty thirties
popping off, like it's like war zone. Just trying to
take a balloon right now.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Thirty thirty hits for one twenty uh, like a charge rifle,
like you said, cold hit for one ninety eight. But
if you got that select fire, like you just spray
a guy down, which I think did correct if I'm wrong,
I think I saw the Like in actual ages comp
it takes more damage to get your hop ups like
in ranked it's like two hundred to get your select
fire the charge rabel, but like it's more intig but nonetheless,

(22:04):
like it's still a lot of a lot of damage,
something like monsoon sitting in z own. Yeah you got that,
you got what else? One shots? Or like does if
you so? Anyone's running a sentinel which we did not
see at all, but that was one fifty eight. There's
so many long grange weapons that could just literally like
kill you in one shot.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
I mean how good these guys are with the G seven.
I mean they just spray through the four bullets and
you're basically one health. It's yeah, And there's just there's
so much you can choose from from long range right now,
And like you spentioned with like more people on white
shields earlier on, like it's just every like every little
like it obviously always mattered, but now like every little
decision with where you're rotating and how quickly you're doing it,
it's now even more important just because there's less evos,

(22:41):
you're on worse shields. It just yeah, I mean again,
I think you just saw so much of these teams
trying to make these adjustments on day one, and again
credit to those that were locked in and we're able
to kind of make that adjustment right away.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Last time we've done metal, I'll say, because I know
you're gapping around here, is like the PK, right, they
did not nerve the damage when it came out of
the car pack. All they did they got rid of
head shot damage, which who's really going for head shots
with a PK right? And then they increased the spread.
I don't know by how much, but clearly not a
lot where it's like you can still hit for a

(23:12):
lot of damage. They increased the spread. But then the
last thing they did is they increased the mag so
he took it from five bullets when he was in
the care back to six. It's a care package PK
on the ground. Bro. I don't think anyone's talking about
this enough except for how who got fucking roasted online?

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah, all in the last in Sorry we keep saying
the last thing, but it's also important to mention you
get your abilities come back quicker with yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
The accelerator. We should get into amps at some point,
but like, yeah, power booster was the most used AMP,
and you've used power Booster and then PG and you
have your aulting your tack up all the time.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah, it's yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
I mean, there's just so much stuff that's just insane.
We could go for another two hours about it.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
I think the true endorsement should be my good friend
Brian's face holding a PK, because if I mean, if
he's getting kills with it, you should probably look into
the weapon. You should probably look into the weapon. Shout
out jamb ladies and gentlemen. Let's move on here into
the little last thing I wanted to say. I was

(24:15):
just looking ahead and I'm glad you mentioned him. I
might be jinxing his ass. I'm watching. I'm heavy watching
Team Oblivion this week. I'm a heavy watching Team Oblivion
this week. Last time we had a shotgun sniper Meta
mon Soon went insane, and by insane, I don't actually

(24:35):
know the statistics, but I felt like he did good. Yeah,
and that's how I do my analysis.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Remember interview with him, like he when there's a sniper
shotgun meta monsoons.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
He's living life, so keep an eye out, keep an
eye out.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
A top ten write a chance for them during.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Them meta Yeah I think so, yeah, so yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
It definitely fits them.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
I'm curious see how bands play into it, though, because
like we're not gonna have every game Newcastle and Gibby
which really forces you have to use shotguns, so it
will be good to see like how those late games go.
But there are still legends that like force it. I
feel like if you're playing you know, even caustic because

(25:19):
of gas, if you have to get into gas and
get out, like you're gonna get more value out of
a one to eight pump you're gonna get for a
guy trying to get like a one clip. So it
will be interesting to see.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna be very interested to see just
a thing on like legends since you kind of brought
it up. I'm wondering if Gibby is gonna start getting
a better pick rate with the shotguns and even a
small outlier. I'm very curious if Maggie starts becoming a
better pick in later points of the set since she
gets the shotgun uh boost and everything obviously. So those

(25:50):
are two legends. I'mouda be very curious to see if
these pick rate change. It may not be necessarily for
Maggie in the Americas, but for some of these APAC
teams that could be a big thing that picks up
because they love Maggie over there. But yeah, I'm really
curious for NAS or the Americas, especially what the Gimbe
pick rate's gonna be moving forward, because I really truly
think with a dam shotguns heavy right now, that could

(26:10):
be something that we see an uptick in, especially like
a team like two Rags I believe used him all
six games or at least four six or five or
something like that.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
So yeah, even I saw Nasky have some good moments
on it, yeah, where I was like, like they didn't
have the best of days, but at the very least
when they were in fights, Gabe was going crazy for them.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah. So yeah, So this weekend, ladies and gents, we're
gonna have a versus C and then on Sunday we're
gonna have B versus C in the Americas, and that
is how it's going to go, boys and girls.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
I want to shut out one more thing. Actually, I
want to shut out one more thing, DMG, which I
didn't pay attention to DMG, and honestly, I'm not gonna lie.
I only notice this right now. I was talking literally
before we got on this call about this player. There's
a guy who's like of your of mine. He opted
our community tournament the other day in BLGs. This dude
dropped behind me once he was like typing in chat

(27:03):
because he recognized me. Dropped behind us in our first
game of deal you ever, absolutely fucking cooked mine and
moreover his ass to the point where we thought he
was streams wiping us. He wasn't. And then he went
to like Belg's finals, and I remember like having a
little bit of a tussle and beef with Falcons because
he was rolling their ass. And that's future streams and
he's probably be DMG and they got top five on

(27:25):
the day. Uh, shout out him. I'm gonna be watching
closely now because I didn't realize pro league now and
that was the other thing I noticed. He was Canadian,
so shut out, like, I'm gonna be paying close attention
to their team. I hope that you're good starting off that.
It was pretty sick shout out.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
They came out in one game one like that's how
a lot of those were in. So yeah, definitely awesome
to say.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
None of them have pages or anything, like you can't
find anything these guys. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
I hovered over the team and I saw the Canadian
flag next to future streams. I was like, it's gonna
be future streams.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
I don't know if they're all The funny thing is,
I don't know if they're all Canadian anyways. She just
seems like he's the only one that has a Canadian
flag on his thing.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
I know. Yeah, nobody. Yeah, I'll date, we'll have to
keep an eye. We'll have to keep an eye. Okay.
Before we send it on down to the Heart to
Heart and get you guys ready for the weekend of
Pro League, let's talk about the regional recap all of
the different regions. Obviously we talk mostly about the America's region,
but let's go through all of them, and we'll kick

(28:25):
it off dawn. First with EU. Let's start with E M.
E A. Let's go to Europe and let's talk about
what's been going down in E M E A. What'd
you see this week?

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, so kind of like uh, like the Americas, we
had some surprises, I think, to say the least, some
teams you wouldn't necessarily expect to probably win the day
we had Cybercats I ended up taking the day, a
team that's mainly known for a great Twitter. By the way,
if you don't follow Cybercats, please do. They are give
me very much a roar of vibes when it comes

(28:56):
to Twitter, a lot of jokes, a lot of good
a lot of good puns, all that stuff. But anyway,
Cybercats played pretty well. Only nineteen kills on the day,
which is kind of crazy to win a match day
with only nineteen kills, but they placed really well. I
think they only had one game where they were outside
the top four, which is again just insane consistency, so

(29:17):
big shout out to them when it came to that.
Just a lot of great zone calling from them. They
positioned themselves well and held very controllable spots for most
of the game. And I mean they were even putting
out a ton of damage. They put out the third
most damage in the lobby, so they were definitely still
involved but I think a lot more of just kind
of controlling their space versus you know, taking a bunch
of three v three. So a big shout out to them,

(29:41):
and again, huge start for them to start off Pro League.
We had Alliance struggle mightily on storm Point, kind of
like we mentioned during the through the initial parts of
the episode, but they had four points on Stormpoint, which
you just don't expect that from Alliance to say the least.
But they had a forty five on E District showed
up and showed out on that map. So they ended

(30:04):
up coming back to finishing hold On real quick, coming
back to finishing fifth. So again I think based on
how the day started, they'll obviously take that still finishing
the top five. So big shout out to Alliance there.
The big name I think definitely when it came to
kills was Citadel Gaming. That is the old Nemesis roster.

(30:26):
They just switched switched over orgs with Citadel Gaming and
they were absolutely fragging out all three members and double
digit kills. That's Zooni, that's Kashi and Remixed Powers. Again,
very experienced roster now played very well in terms of
the three three fighting and yeah, ultimately I think we're
the team that were the most aggressive, and again just

(30:49):
overall played very well. Zooni ended up leaving the Lotti
with fifteen kills, but yeah, they were definitely the most
aggressive team, so big shout out to them. The only
you know, other main notable that people probably want to
hear about would be Nasty s team with those seven
they finished sixth on the day, played pretty well outside
of two games, and overall still they're kind of like

(31:10):
a team that's could play a lot more zone, not
take as many fights, but be very smart about how
they play, and overall they definitely looked very good. The
main differences, you know, when it comes to like bands
and things like that, pretty standard bands except for Watson,
got played a little bit further into the match day
when you compare it to like the America's region, Watson

(31:30):
got banned game five versus got banned in game two
for the Americas. That's a big notable thing to mention.
And then Bangalore is definitely a lot more played over
in the media than it is. The America's got picked
forty six times versus sixteen times in the America's region.
So just in terms of some meta differences. That's some
things you can maybe expect moving forward for Emia.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Now we move into a pack. I think I clicked
on North. Yes, So now we move into Apac North.
We've got thirty six. They took the lead on the
day with seventy one points. Right behind them was SO
ten right behind that, and third was Fanatic and then
fourth place was Dory. So E thirty six continues to
play like they were playing before, Fanatic closely behind them.

(32:14):
Let's talk about some of these other teams in Apac
North and what was going on in that region.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yeah, so, like you mentioned, E thirty six ends up
taking the day. They were basically top five most of
the day, but they were not first going into the
last game that was actually Sotan based on their performances
throughout the day. But E thirty six drops a seventeen
kill win and E thirty six fashion for those who
remember Champs kind of having those big kill games and

(32:41):
how well they played back in Sapporo. But yeah, they
end up seeing the day, end up taking the win,
which is big for them to get off to a
hot start. Same roster as before again played very well
throughout the day and a team we definitely will need
to keep an eye on as per League advances. Seltan
really was the was definitely a very interesting story to watch.

(33:02):
They had sixty nine points on the day, with fifty
three of those being from kills, so they were not
worried about where they were finishing games. They were just
absolutely running down lobbies. Like like Jumpa mentioned during earlier
in the episode, they had a guy his name is
let me make sure I say this right Kacka Gory

(33:24):
twenty seven kills in the first three games running Pathfinder
from game one running the Eva has his shotgun and
I mean he was just throwing his body over the
place and it's absolutely nuking people. It's kind of entertaining
to watch to see somebody on Pathfinder be very aggressive
and kind of frag out, whereas we kind of seen
a lot of Pathfinders lately kind of like a Hawkus

(33:45):
where it's more used for rotations and kind of as
like the igl or Anchor roll. So it was really
cool to see somebody really, I think, bring out the
full potential Pathfinder like we used to see in the
early ages of APEX Competitive But so they added me
to Kay, which is a ton of experience to that roster,
so I think that is if they can kind of
balance the aggressiveness with you know, maybe a little bit

(34:08):
more placement at times, I think that will definitely be
a team we'll need to keep our eye on as well.
And then, like you mentioned, Fanatic takes third. Overall, just
a pretty standard, solid performance, nothing really too crazy to
go on about with them. Again, they all end in
double digit kills, which we come to expect obviously with
Fanatic being with how good they are at fighting. But

(34:29):
again I think with UF leading the way, I think
Corol Garcia and libel Ace will only get better. I'd
kind of mention it we were talking about there in EWC.
I didn't think EWC would be theirs to win. I
thought that this would be more of a long term
project with now that we have this gap to Champs
and it being in Japan. I really do think when
we see them a few months down the road, this

(34:51):
could be a roster that we're like, damn like they
are going to compete for the title over in Champs.
So this I think this probably is gonna be big
for them. Again, the team I think everyone's always keeping
an eye on with it being fanatic, but I think
with this roster, with their capability of what they can
build into, I am very excited to see what happens
with them, and I know you are too. Why I'm sure. Yeah,

(35:13):
being in Japan seeing the fans cheering from them last year,
that was definitely special. So hopefully get to see that
back again once again.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yeah, I want to see it loud again. I want
I definitely want to see it loud again. Let's move
on into APAX South here and Donnie, the region that
currently holds the reigning Land champion picked up right where
it left off, with a lot of the teams that
you'll remember from this most recent Land still at the top.
Starting off with Wolves Esports. They had eighty eight points.

(35:41):
Second place wasn't very close, but it was still second. Nonetheless,
that was Jen Sports, Third place was Tom Young Kum,
and then fourth place was j D Gaming, Wolves and
gen G Donnie. They had an incredible EWC. They're right
back where they left off. VK Gaming the winner. They
were down there in twelfth. I'm just gonna call that
a championship hangover.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yeah, definitely, we'll get to them in a second. I
definitely want to give the flowers over to wolvesey Sports
and jing G definitely the two most consistent teams throughout
the day. They played very well, definitely were controlling a
lot of the lobbies. But Wolves Esports really was the story.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Again.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
We saw their kind of ascension into you know, the global,
global kind of eye and everybody kind of really realizing like, oh, like,
it's not just VK game, Like, there's multiple teams out
of this region that had something to prove, and they
were one of those three, you know, along with ging
G and VK Gaming. I think that were definitely the
biggest you know upsides of EWC. Wolves really balanced out

(36:44):
the day. They had the kills, they had the wins
no name, uh doing an amazing job. You led the
lobby of twenty kills and yeah, it was just all
rounds and amazing performance to watch. They had twenty six
thousand damage as a team, which second closest just for context,
was sixteen thousand, So the almosts were doubling up teams

(37:04):
with a gate to damage, which is absolutely insane. But
I mean, you just watch these guys play and it
was a ton of fun to watch. If they're able
to keep up with their ability in three B three fights.
They're going to continue to be at the top of
the top of the heap when it comes to a
BAC South. I do want to mention as well Gen
g again that being the old Makers and Green Sego roster,

(37:25):
they were also amazing, and I do want to correct
myself it was Asia. They actually loved the lobby. He
had twenty two kills. There is a clip that on
Storm Point where they're on the rocks just outside like
going into like launch bad that where the end zone
was ending, and his R ninety nine spray from an
MNK player is actually insane. Like I knew that was

(37:49):
a good roster. I knew how to fight, but just
seeing that in like a thirty forty five second sequence
of just absolutely beaming people with an R nine as
an NK player like that just again, it's something like
to watch on repeat over and over. So they're gonna
be a roster. We're definitely again continue want to keep
an eye on. Again, they are both in that position,
like we've talked about some of the teams in the
Americas that you know, they've locked up their position for champs,

(38:11):
so what can they improve on as the split goes on.
That's gonna be the main thing we'll keep an eye on.
And then, like you mentioned, VK gaming really is the
other story. For those who don't know QQ, who is
the MVP of the mid season playoffs, he is not
playing the split. Some some things have rumored, as I
believe it would be the Taiwanese military service. That's not

(38:33):
a one hundred percent confirmed, so I don't want to
say like one hundred percent certainty, but he is one
hundred percent taking the split off. He has already confirmed
he'll be back for Champs. It's just gonna be this
gap from then, from then to now, he will not
be playing. Overall. It kind of just played out how
you expect the DK not having like their main, you know,
one of their main players. Wasn't really a big day

(38:53):
for them again. They finished twelfth, Uh, they had twenty
two kills of twenty eight points twenty two kills, So
again wasn't really a big placement day for them. But
I think as they build throughout the split again, it's
gonna be a lot more of you know, what can
LQ and cost to kind of do to kind of
prepare themselves for when QQ comes back again. They're fully

(39:13):
locked for Champs, so they really don't have to worry about,
you know, how exactly they perform. It's just gonna be
a seating thing for them. But with them winning, you know,
a land, they're gonna have a shit ton of points,
so their seating shouldn't really be too affected because the
Pro league splits don't have anything too crazy, so that again,
that would be something to keep an eye on to
see kind of how they develop as time goes on.

(39:35):
But again it's apax. South is always a great time
to watch. I always really enjoy it. I'm glad they
at least have some sort of a broadcast. Shout out
to Battleground. They're the ones that are doing the official broadcast,
and I know they definitely are their very ground, grassroots
kind of build it up by themselves, sort of sort
of a production. So I'm very excited to see how

(39:56):
that develops over time as well. So a big shout
out to them. And yeah, the only other thing I'll
just say is they just do not play things like
they do the Americas. They had twelve Newcastle picks comparative
to thirty seven the America's. They had a bunch of
Bangalore picks unlike the Americas. They had a bunch of
spare up picks, unlike the Americas. So they do their
own thing down there, And I tell you what, if

(40:18):
anybody really feels like staying up in the States on
a late Friday night Saturday morning to watch, I highly
recommend because it is just a brain of Apex that
you just won't see with the Americas sometimes. So definitely
give it a list or give it a watch if
you can. I might even try to do some some
streams of some different regions moving forward on my channel,
so definitely be keep an eye out for that. But no,

(40:40):
it's it's a fun region to watch, and again really
just kind of it's fun to kind of kick off
the parly weekends with APAX South because it is high octane,
it's entertaining, and by the time we get to the
America's it's like, holy shit, I'm on this roller coaster
right now. I'm to the America's where you see some
of the best teams in the world. So it's fun
to watch.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
One last thing, Wolves Sports worst place was sixth second, fifth,
sixth third, first second.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
It's pretty good. I think that's gonna do pretty well.
In those days.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yeah, I think you're gonna do well with that. Yeah,
then you're gonna do well with that. And then mixing
the eleven kills, the ten kills, the eight, the seven,
the seven. Yeah, you're gonna do all right.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
You get forty four kills, forty four place for points.
I mean, he really writes it up any better than that.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
That's the perfect yin and yang. That's what you're looking for, folks. Okay, well,
that's just about doing for the regional recap ladies and gentlemen.
We're gonna throw it on down to the heart to
heart and then send you guys into the weekend where
we've got a lot more pro league coming up and
we can't wait to break it all down. Let's get
it all right, it is time for the heart to

(41:44):
heart jumba. How are we feeling, Toddy knows how I'm feeling.
I have to do a video.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Where I got I got a PC sent to me
and I talked with the company and everything like that,
and I said I was gonna do a video. I've
never hit Masters before, so there's a very good storyline
I have in my head around the idea of me
trying to hit Masters, and I just decided to choose
the season where it's fucking harder. Shit. But like things
had been going good. I've been playing with Connor. If

(42:15):
you guys aren't familiar with Connor, Progence used to edit
the podcast and everything like that, and then our other buddy, Typick,
and we were grinding hard. I was Diamond three. Okay,
this is what I was talking about. If you guys
remember when I kind of briefly brought up about needed
to talk to E about gaming with him. Yeah, so
when I talked to E, nothing was locked in yet,
but it got locked in. Everything moved very fast. And

(42:35):
there's only like eleven days left the split, so I
have to game a lot. So today I've put everything
else of work i've had on hold, and today I
got on at eleven am and I started playing and
I played until about five o'clock. And like I said,
I was diamon three and now I'm almost plat one
if that makes sense. I lost eight hundred straight RP

(42:56):
or seven eighty nine. I guess I shouldn't round up.
So my mental in this case was torched. I had
a headache. I need to go take a nap. I've
had an espresso. I have not ate because I ate
two fucking burritos, made fucking session because I thought that
would help the vibes. It didn't. Uh, But I can't

(43:18):
say it's only up from here because I could definitely
keep going down. However, I feel like, no, it could
absolutely get worse. I feel like I'm just gonna this
is all for the plot and things are gonna go good.
I'm really excited to get back onto Apex. I think
and grind. That's all I want to do. But I
did feel like this has to be feel a degenerate.
Gambling feels like you know what I mean. Like it's

(43:39):
like it's like I was betting. It's like what I
felt betting five dollars was like. And then every time
I do, like this next one's gonna hit, and like
another five, and this next one's gonna hit another five,
and then I'd make ten dollars. I'm like, okay, okay,
I'm down two hundred, but like that's something that's something here,
and then like another five and then another five and another five,
and the next thing you know, I'm down like fucking
two grand, And I was like, how did that happened?

(44:00):
But this is the thing, seven fifty seventeen. What's at
like four good games? We need four games? I can
do that, right, I think so?

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
So I'm trying to keep the vibes up. This is
day one, day one.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Of the record.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
I don't know what that fucking tells any of you.
I need to get ido hopefully like play with me.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
That's that's where we're at. That is where we.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Killed me today. Well he didn't kill me, he was
dead already, but fucking gent and then fucking Jay Savage, Like,
I run into them as I'm freaking trying to rotate
because our teammate died. I'm trying to rotate and I
run into I wasn't playing with Connor Trivy the same.
This is actually I'm playing with Onset and one other
friend and I run into gent Bro as I'm being
shot in the back by another player.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
This can't happen. This can't happen.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Actually, I can't complain though, because those are the lobbies
I'm trying to get to.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Yes, but not now.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
It's just like there's.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
One little team in my lobby and I run into
Eyuk and Chen. Yeah, Enok was dead though, I'll say
that Enok was dead. Gotta grill about.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
That, uh, Dawn, heart to heart.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
I guess for me not to probably rub it in
even though it's definitely gonna feel that way, but uh,
you could do it. The sleeve shot method is apparently
a thing. Uh So obviously last time I talked about ranked,
I was down bad, just basically losing just just under
what Jumbu had lost. So I guess shout out to

(45:24):
him for losing more than I did somehow. But anyway, regardless,
also different lobbies, so I'll I'll give him that as well,
since yeah, I guess basically just all Platt lobby.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
So you you you played a lot more games to
lose yours if you think about it, because I have
about twenty five or thirty more RP. That's I don't
know how you stuck through it that long.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
I don't know. I think we went through the seven
stages of APEX, so denial definitely be one of the
main ones. But anyway, uh no, we I mean we
meet Kyle and Matt both got a couple guys from
GMP pod. We've been trying to do a road a
Masters series like we probably mentioned last time, and yeah,
we were down bad, but you know, people were hitting

(46:03):
the VOD reviews, shout out Jay for helping out Matt
with some stuff, and h yeah, things have gone really
well the last three times you played. I think we're
just shy under like eighteen hundred and nineteen hundred RP
over probably like eight nine hours since we haven't been
able to have like a long session. But yeah, we
played only like two hours yesterday and gained like six

(46:24):
seven hundred I think. Yeah, so we're feeling good. You know,
we made it's a lot of end games. We're feeling
a lot better about it. And yeah, just big shout
outs the slingshot method, I guess because apparently apparely it
actually is a thing.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
So you heard. I can't believe I'm hinting timon two
in like two or three days. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Yeah, that is crazy. That. Yeah, it's gonna be so
cool when you do it too. It's gonna be so cool.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
The plots can be.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
It's my heart to heart this week, I am so
locked in on Call of Duty Zombies right now. I
just can't my brain. I watched like six videos at
work today about the highest round records and how they
were able to be achieved. D awesome YouTuber name wonderful

(47:12):
with you. His videos are so good and they're perfect
for work because it's like they're all really long, so
it's like, dude, well no, yeah, well I mean I
am okay, so like I am working, but I am
also not, if that makes sense. I'm like, I'm I'm

(47:34):
doing things, but I'm not. Like you ever like drive
home and you don't realize that you just made it home.
You were like so deep in thought and you're like,
how the fuck did I get home? That's how work
feels when I'm listening to one of those videos, like
I'm gay, I'm doing things, I'm getting stuff done, but
like I don't know. And then a lot of times,
you know, you you just like, okay, maybe I should

(47:55):
like really lock in here, and then you know, you
just start thinking, like what is the round record on
I'm Buried? Like what is that? Like? Who?

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Who?

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Who did it?

Speaker 3 (48:09):
Crashing?

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Yeah, find it was a huge issue.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
That's what the funny thing about. That's what the funny
thing about. Yeah, that's what the funny thing about fucking
called Zombies Easter X, especially Black Ops two, is that
half the battle isn't just the strategy, it's actually playing
fast enough so the game doesn't crash.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Yeah, that's like and it, but the the science that
comes out from it, the way that they figure out
how to do it is crazy. Like every single time,
it's absolutely nuts. Should we get it done?

Speaker 3 (48:42):
If you're a Zombies fan, go watch these videos. Dudee
he Re recently was like, banger.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
This this sad. That was the first one that I watched.
The saddest thing about his videos is there's not enough
of them. I want more. I'm like, I want everything,
Like I I've seen so many of like the the
Black Ops two ones. I want to see the Black
Ops three ones. I want to see the Black Ops
four ones. Like I want to see all of these records.
So yeah, I'm just so locked in on Zombies right now.
If you guys want to go check out the show

(49:09):
pack a pod. Uh you know, we just released a
new episode today. We're just locked on Zombies right now.
I'm forcing myself to play Die Rise for a full
week every single day as long as I can. And
I have an idea, and I haven't pitched it to
the boys. They may shoot it down, but I think
this weekend what I'm going to do is try to
go h solo to thirty on die rise, which sounds

(49:33):
like not that much, but I have died on like
round nine every single time I play that map because
I don't know what the fuck to do. I don't
know where to go.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Why would I shoot down an idea of you trying
to hit round thirty.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
I don't know, cause it might just be lame, be lame,
you know. But every time I've played that map, I
die on round nine because I'm trying to figure out
how Because the perks change every every round, they change elevators.
I didn't see it. I didn't find Juggernaug till my
fifth game, Like it just kept changing from the ones.

(50:05):
It took me forever to figure out how to get
to the roof.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
I think once you get the hang of it, you'll
get there really easy, because do you know how to
like get I think so by.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
The end of it, I had gotten to round eleven,
and then I kind of like I was. I was
more messing around because it was already like midnight thirty
and I had to go to work the next day,
so I was like, all right, I'll just fuck it.
I was just shooting the silicifire everywhere, and then I
slid into a zombie and nine. But you know, we
got there, and I kept saying, I just want to

(50:36):
see Juggernaut. If I see Juggernaug, I'll buy it, and
then whatever happens happens. But I just want to have
some fun with the map. I learned a lot about
they do die Egg, Well, we have to redo it,
and then we also have to do the other side,
because remember there's two sides of that Easter Egg, not.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
For the video. If the video ever gets done.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Yeah, we should just do it though anyway, sure, yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
I just want to do the stuff first because like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
No, I got you. I got you.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
By the way, that sucks more with more people. I
think it as a loan, Like if you get that
slip of fire, you know how to upgrade it. You
upgrad it. It's like a glitch. But like that, then
it makes the game actually kind of easy.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
And the siliquifier one from the Wonderful video apparently it
was like one of the goat wonder weapons of all time.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
And then they made a patch. Yeah that's what I'm saying.
It's it was the best fucking wonder weapon of all time.
One shot will clear an entire round, no matter what round.
But like they nerved it, but there's a glitch to
technically bring it back to the pre patch version.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
I'll talk Oh yeah, well yeah see, I'm just deep
in zombies right now. I'm deep in zombies right now, folks,
I am deep in zombies. But ladies and gents, thank
you guys for tuning in. As always, that's just about
do it for this week's show. We've got a doubleheader
this weekend, and I think what we're going to do
is after the games are over on Saturday and Sunday,
I'm gonna try to go live on YouTube, and if

(51:54):
the boys want to hop in they can. We're just
gonna talk it over for thirty minutes forty five minutes,
and then when we record the episode, because it is
later in the week, we'll just kind of do like
a recap, like a quick one, not as in depth
as right after when we do like a live stream.
I just want to get some more lives out there.
And I feel bad sometimes when I release an episode
on Friday and the games are literally on Saturday and Sunday.

(52:16):
Some people might actually like that because it gets them
hyped up for the weekend. But I don't know. It
just doesn't give the video a whole lot of time
for people to find it. But thank you guys for
tuning in. As always, we'll catch you guys next week
for another edition of the Apex, the podcast for Split
two Pro League. Let's get it so, y'all,