Episode 132: The Super Team is DONE + Potential Rostermania & Pro League Preview

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Everyone, Welcome back to another edition of the Apex the Podcast,
Ladies and Gentlemen. A lot of crazy, crazy things happened
in Apex Legends over the last few days. But the
biggest thing we're gonna just we're just gonna kick it off.
Jump A made Masters. I mean, that's absolutely incredible.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
I did it.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
I did it, absolutely incredible.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
A lot of sleep has had. Actually, I got some
of the best sleep I had on one of the
first nights because I was so tired that, like when
I got off at whatever time it was, I just
crashed and it was amazing. It was fun. As you
can see, he's not here for this. I exhausted him.
He couldn't handle it.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Now he's gonna be in in the back end talking
about the run to Masters with Enoch and the the
craziness that was. But in all seriousness, boys, the big
news zero how Falcons.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Things are not going well. Things are not going well.
Some crazy shit went down. Jump.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
I'm gonna throw it on down to you. Let's talk
a little bit about Falcons and what just took place.
Because Twitter was a buzz.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, yesterday we see I yesterdays of recording this, so
I'll say Wednesday, the time, we see a post put
up by Falcons saying that Zero has been moved to
the bench, and that was just really interesting to see.
Even the terminology of it moving to the bench was
something I wonder why specifically that term, because I feel

(01:50):
like usually people just dropped from the team. But yeah,
that's just something I've thoughts about, but we'll get more into.
Like the situation is that a lot of people, I
think thought this was bait for a while, but that
was one of the Falcon's esports account, so definitely couldn't
have been bait. Everyone was blowing it up. I was
obviously live at the time, and people are just spanning much.
I asked me, what's going on, and I don't even

(02:10):
know obviously, But then after it goes into holl talks
about it today on stream briefly and someone the conversation
started off by someone asking was it Zero's choice to leave?
Which I think we've possibly talked about on this before
that we know Zero has wanted to play with like
someone like zign you and Koi, But like that, I
don't know if I ever said it. I wasn't really

(02:32):
sure that if they ever wanted to play with Zero
at that point because there's been things in the past,
but he wanted to play with Koi and I've just
heard that like Cooy didn't want to play with him.
That's that's just like and that's all public stopped. Zero
said this on stream and such. So apparently when the
person said to how was it Zero's choice to leave,
How's response was, you would think so, and they took

(02:53):
up a long pause and he said, it's complicated, right,
And so what he goes into saying is that like
he wanted to leave around the time of after Nola,
after they win, and he went to go approach Zaiknu
and Koy and they rejected him. And so he continued
out playing the SPLITWC and then like obviously the beginning
of this split, but wasn't very happy about it, and

(03:15):
there obviously was some internal stuff going on behind the background.
Hal was saying that all this stuff he's talking about
is tip of the iceberg, and he said that on
the most recent Pro League day he decided to they
said let's hash it out. Apparently Zero said no, this
is all house perspective, and what he talked about on
stream today. So him saying no, then the next day,

(03:39):
this or this week that post has made it sounds
like because of the no it feels like Zero was
then dropped slash benched by the team. But at the
same time, I guess he's saying it's complicated because it
was because of like I guess him not wanting to play,
of what's going on in the past. I don't know.
Obviously it's complicated. I'm speculating here, but that's the juicy

(04:01):
drama part of the things. But this leads into the
fact that we're going to have Oh and I guess
the other thing I should really quickly say is Hal
basically said they're not on great terms. Yeah, so that's
a big thing juicy drama part aside, this goes into
massive roster mania mid season because well, the number one

(04:21):
IGL currently Hal's now stepping back into the role of IGL,
so we'll have that debate start again. But the current
number one IGL before House steps back in that role,
is now on the market and this is the guy
that's won the most Midlands in the modern era, so
a team's picking him up and that means that there's
a spot open off Falcons and we know that only

(04:42):
like a reverend player is going to get put in there.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
So have you gotten any calls Jumba? I just want
to clear there now.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
I could show you a DM I got from zero.
I have a screenshot of it put in our discorder earlier.
It did say what are you doing January fifteenth?

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Interesting?

Speaker 2 (05:02):
The day that japan Land starts?

Speaker 3 (05:05):
So interesting?

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Okay, we'll keep that, We'll keep that in mind. We'll
keep that in mind. He's probably dming a lot of people.
You're probably like third fourth on the list, which you know,
you'll take that right like you'll take him.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Up showed betting odds and like of who he's thinking
is going to go there. And my line was that
plus fifty thousand, So if you don't throw in like
at least ten.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Bucks, I'd throwing fifty thousand, Yeah, plus fifty thousand.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
What would what would fifty cents get you?

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Well a lot, I think if it's thousand for putting
two quarters down and then yeah, I'm taking out all day.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Uh No.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
But in all seriousness though this, there's a lot of
opinions you can have about this. I think the number
one opinion and I think the best opinion, which I
could be wrong about.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
For for somebody listening.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Is this is good for the league, baby, This is
good for the league because we got some real hatred
for the two widely considered best two igls in the
entire league. This is exactly what you want for the
league moving forward. I felt like I've honestly felt like
this season has been pretty lackluster. I think a lot
of that could be said with how the formatting has been. Obviously,

(06:19):
you know split two does not hold a whole lot
of weight. Although I will say some of the some
of the teams that have needed to win, like to
win this thing to get in, they've been doing really
really well, So shout out to those guys.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
But it's still really early.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
You'd expect some of these other teams to bounce back
and kind of re solidify what we know and think
will happen. But I mean, it's just real great to
have this kind of hatred back, and for two players
who have already won a handful of championships each, for
them to like be beefing like this, having their own
teams once again, it's gonna bring back just a whole

(06:52):
other level of Apex drama on their on the Bluebird,
and also some fun when we're inside the games, man.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
Yeah, I would say too real quick to add on
to everything that Jumpa had said about what Hal said.
One other thing that was interesting to hear was that
he did say that they should have the new third
announced by Monday. That's obviously when weekly like roster locks
open back up so they can make changes. But that
also contracts are being worked out, and that Zero should

(07:20):
have a new team soon. So I think the most
interesting part because I think it's pretty obvious, like Zero's
going to have a new team. I'd be stupid if
he did it for a lot of these teams that
just purely need the chance points, right like on that alone,
and then you can add on obviously everything he is
as a player. It's like it'd be stupid for you
not to try to entertain it. So Zero's going to

(07:40):
have his situation figured out. But how saying, I'll go
ahead real quickly.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
I'm just gonna say, you mentioned the chance points, and
Jay mentioned something today that I didn't even realize because
like he said, like, uh, let me just see we're
kind of all speculating. I wanted to like see how
he said it. I don't see you here. We were
making too many jokes. He's that basically something like Zero
can like essentially Zero has enough points to just bully

(08:06):
out anyone. He has more points than some teams have.
There are inn champ spots right now, so Zero can
literally kick out a squad on his own, and he
could pick up. Imagine there's two people who are like
amazing players but have no point. Zero counld take them
and then just get a spot. I don't know how
that really would work, but yeah, like he has enough
Champce points on his own to kick out any team

(08:27):
he wants realistically, So I feel like that also means
that any team is going to be gunning for him.
I mean, even aside from the points they should be
gunning form.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
But still yeah. But the last thing I was gonna
say too is that it's interesting the hell that like
contracts are being worked out, because at least based on
the surface level, that that would mean that it's a
player that's already under contract potentially, so does that mean
that Falcons is indeed poaching somebody? It also could mean
that they're just trying to agree to terms, right, But

(08:55):
like it it's very interesting. Again, I think what mainly
what Jumbo was getting at was the wording of a
lot of Hal was saying, and how it's just very
like measured and obviously like you gotta be careful of
what you say in these situations. But I would I
think we could really go through a list of like
guys that would make a lot of sense for this roster.
And I mean we were, like I said, we did

(09:15):
the betting odds thing. I mean, there's some crazy names
around that list that that roster would be absolutely insane
to say the least.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah, I want to shout out down, yeah, you mind
if I go down a list real quick. This one
comes from Nasky. I got Nasky's list here. Naski's twitter
was the best. I'm just gonna read off his tweets.
They all came out within like ten seconds of each other.
I'm having some sweet dreams about Falcons new third. Haw
has been putting in the reps to get back to

(09:44):
ig oing. I think Falcons would do what will will
do well Evan if they dropped zero, that one was
not good. I hope Falcons sniped down a good third.
Let's hope Falcons New third will help jen or Rate
some good results. Don't panic about falcons new. Third, I
think we the people which I don't know. I don't
know about that. One of Apex wanted to see some

(10:05):
big changes in Falcons with the new additions, shout out
to ask you for that.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Those are some options.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Those are some options, some of them legit, some of
them not. If we want to go through the legit ones. Yeah,
the ones that instantly came to mind was like, okay,
So actually I first was thinking if Zz drop Zach,
which would suck because it'd be sneaking Zach, but then
pick up Zero. Again, Zero's got more points than any

(10:35):
two of those guys on the team combined. That would
launch them pretty far up into Champs point seating even
though they're already auto qualified.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
But he's also played the Sikes before, right, and in
terms of playing the Sykes before, they had the chemistry
that came second place, we know, like the very loving
moment of them looking at each other and everything like that. Yeah,
I thought that might be a possibility. Then after that
there was h but we started realizing those Falcons has
to be filled the spot and Dez's not signed to

(11:05):
an org, so it's a very easy or to poach
from because you don't have to pay those buyouts and
you don't have to worry about these contracts. So Guild
or Pykes could slot in with Hal and Waltz one
of those two. Who else do we got? What else
do you want to throw out there, Donnie?

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Yeah, So we had saw Funk had scremmed with them
when How was not scrimming with them yesterday. Obviously that
was Zero and Waltzy, so like again that could have
just been him filling in just for the day or
whatever the case is. We did then see Funk scrimaming
apparently scrimming with Zz today and Guild was not there,
which also kind of leads to our theory about Guild.

(11:44):
I've been thrown out the name mcleven just because How
and Waltzy or scrimming with McLevin when Zero was not
in the US because the visa issues. Again, whether that
was obviously really to the visa or more towards the
scenario where and now it seems like they had a
pretty decent chemistry through those Grim Games. Uh, so that
could be somebody. Obviously mcloven's been a guy that's been

(12:05):
kind of on the rise, you know, as of the
past couple of months, and then some other names have
been thrown out there. Panic obviously had his situation where
he was kind of m A for a bit. Obviously
that would include you know, them trying to work things
out with TSM.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
We started getting real conspiracy theory, like like, okay, so
Panic m I A. Maybe that's because he's sorting out
his thing all this, And then after I'm playing Ranked
all weekend, Panic is on Newcastle and like just running
at everyone with Newcastle alongside Snipe down on ash whatever.
Every Pride player I played with goes, why is Panic
playing Newcastle? Always got to be practicing it. So then

(12:41):
sudden we're like, well, you know, I know how like
in the Gibbie Newcastle he was playing Newcastle, but without
the Gibbie he doesn't like Newcastle, and we know Waltz
he doesn't like Newcastles, so maybe they like, we need
a Newcastle player, so you want to join get good.
So we started conspiracy theory. Maybe that's why this is happening.
I think it's not entirely I don't know. Today you
said he was screaming with him with d s M again, so.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Yeah, but I think those would probably be the five
names again, Guild, Psych's, Funk, Panic and mclove and just
based on like context we can actually like have as
a realistic scenario. There's also been other names like Verulse
was thrown out there. That's not gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
He said he compete He said, good yeah, friends, yeah,
but no, no competitiveness. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
And then people, I was just saying, you know, reps
as they come back, I just don't see it where
he's been at. So but even though that'd be crazy,
there is it's.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
A roller player. He said, it's a roller player.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
Okay, Well that's even more context than we didn't have before,
so that would well I saw that.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
I saw that in a twitch chat. I didn't see
that like I saw a twitch shot that the person said,
Hal said has to be correct, has to be correct,
take that ship with a great assault.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Well because if that's correct, then that should rule out
Panic then right, because he's in kay so controller is
I literally saw him playing on him CA today. So
that's why I was confused, because he.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Did maybe in the interview that he played MMK for
a little bit if I'm not so.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
Yeah, I was confused by that. I was like that
man's literally loading boxes with his mouth, so I wonder
if he was maybe dual. Uh, you know, you know
some control.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Sometimes when I'm ranking and I see a death box,
and I'm like, if I go open that while en roller,
I'm dead. But I could pick up the most keyboard
and start bouncing around while I'm in there. And I've
debated throwing the keyboard to the side, and maybe maybe
panic was doing that today.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Yeah, maybe, but anyway, Yeah, those are probably the five ones.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
And then remember my odds at plus fifty and then
is on that list.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah, so after the masters.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
On you can send those, uh to our PayPal at
apex Ledgends of the Podcast at gmail dot com. I
don't know if that's an email anything helps, that's don't
send money there. Yeah, that's that's just for the betting
you said that there.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, that's that's for the Price Picks fund. Yeah, and
and it will be used accordingly.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
Absolutely. I also did hear the last thing that came
in as well, odds wise was Hal Saul how good?
Why it was in DMR and he now made the list.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
So yeah, no, no, me and me and Jimena, I
mean we've been checking the DMS. So we're just we're
just checking. We're making sure that maybe maybe we're the
we're the next one up. I will say this too,
This will never happen. You guys already mentioned it wouldn't happen.
But how hilarious would it be if it was? If
it was zero snipe down in reps, that would be funny,
That would be a funny move. Why why because I

(15:27):
don't think how didn't win with snipe down in reps?
Oh so okay, okay, So then Zero comes in wins
with snipe down and reps he wins it. Now it's
like ha ha, he also just wins.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah yeah, yeah, See, like that is the tough thing
if we want to talk about, like, like you said,
storylines and being back, like you know, it always I
think sucks a little when you hear like, oh yeah no,
we're not on good terms from like pros. But aside
from that, though, like having rivalry of two of the

(15:59):
best players in APEX, coming back does spark some month
through the scene because, like as you were saying, why
this year hasn't only felt a little bit dry in storylines,
not just because of the fact that like Split two,
while I do think that's a very good point. It
does add to it. But it's also like in the past,
we had this DZ versus TSM, and like, even if

(16:21):
it wasn't Z and TSM, it was this thing like
who's going to be the one to take him down?
And then after the jaking down, we had this whole
thing of this super team. And Hall even said it like,
while they played good, they won two pro leagues, they
want to land, they didn't do as good as everyone expected.
I guess you could say, right, like they guess they
got like the second at EWC, but still like they
didn't play as good as everyone had expected, like with

(16:42):
that super team thing. And so when that sort of
idea started to fizzle out after they get you know,
twentieth in Germany, after they get sixth at this most
recent one, right, funny enough, second, third, first is still
pretty crazy, But nonetheless you have this thing now we're like, yeah,
there was a little bit of the rivalry with them,
an alliance, but like even that didn't feel like it
was ever really as intense of like the dzts Semn days,

(17:05):
and it just felt like there was just nothing keeping.
I don't know, the real big stakes on the line anymore,
just like you know what, especially for like year five,
like yeah, just I feel like we haven't like into
the NOLA into like EWC. We didn't have anything where
it's just like, holy shit, what is gonna happen at
this one? Like had you on the edge of your seat,

(17:26):
Like the games were good, we enjoy what we got
to see. I think that there's been like small storylines
like VG was really cool to learn about their whole story,
especially through Jay's video and stuch like that, But it
was nothing. There was like this overarching, big giant thing
that like you know, the entire community was had just
wrapped around and maybe this will breathe some life into it.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
It will, you know, one thousand percent will I think
year five, when we look back on everything that this
year has offered us, it will be a transformative period
that for people who aren't like you know, locked in
on APEX, they'll be like, ah, you know that was whatever,
But for us, it'll be like we found out what
happens when two forces who are really really good come

(18:05):
together and try to make one team. It just it
not only does it sometimes I guess, you know, not
work the way they wanted it to, but it also
just took away a lot of the storylines and fun
little discourse that was happening in the background between all
the people who enjoy watching. We just didn't have that
same ability to do so, and when you don't, it
really sucks.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Not to mention.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
We also, you know, lost another person in that in
that bucket was sweet taking a step back as well.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
So it's like we lost a lot.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Of we lost a lot of the ability to kind
of jabber jab back and forth between one another. Now
not only are they splitting, but it seems like there's
actual a little bit of bad blood there that's going
to translate into the games and when we move into
year six, I think it's going to make it a
lot more exciting, a lot more fun. I think having
how back in the igl role is going to be incredible.

(18:55):
It's always fun to watch, it's always top tier content
when he's igling. It'll be fantastic. So I'm I'm just
ready for it. I'm ready to go. And remember early
on in this falcons Like run, when we had interviewed
how he had said at the end of one of
the interviews, I think I may I don't know his
exact wording. It was either I think I need to
go back to I and yeah, I think I need

(19:17):
to go back to Igling.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
I think he knew, Like I think he knew.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
At first it was like okay, this is cool, but
you know, it started to go down the road a
little bit. He's like, nah, I need I need to
be I need to be at the forefront of my
own squad here.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
I don almost even like insert that clip again because honestly,
that was like that was an apex pod exclusive breaking
news moment because like, while they were doing good that
early on and they're like teaming up to have Hal
come on the bond and tell us I think I
need to be an igl was kind of I remember

(19:53):
almost being like holy shit, that's yeah. Yeah, we were
all because usually we asked the guys like I. I
think that was when we did our last question, Like
it was you know.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
It was literally the the Enoch's final question, what.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Did you learn to the last time you're on?

Speaker 3 (20:08):
And it was your thing. He's gonna say like, oh,
I need to be happier or.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Like yeah, yeah, most he gave us like two like
most he said, I got a juicy answer. And then
I got like an answer. He's like the one answer
was like he finally learned to like almost like cool
off and realize like about other people's feelings and like
how he should approach you.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
That's gone by the way.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
You think he's so back, and we want that he's.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
So but it's gonna be true, right, But yeah, So
there's that. There was that, and then the other side
of it. He goes to the juicy one is like
and I didn't know what he was gonna say, and
he goes, I think, I just think I need to
be I g O, wait, what's like sparking because that's
kind of divisive, Like what is that saying about your

(20:55):
current I gl But interesting? Interesting time was it foreseen?
Like what was that? I had to be like six
or seven months ago at this point.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
It was I think it was the one before the
most recent one.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, it was two. It was ten months ago. I
just need to be an IGL is the quote on
the thumbnail there you go crazy, No.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
He's back.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
He's back, big tick and and like we would talk
more about zero, but I gotta see the team first,
you know, like obviously we just don't really know what
happens with with with how we can't have more of
an idea.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Any speculations were you think Zero wou Land. I think
Zapta was baiting on Twitter, But like, as we already,
I think that's bait because he's screaming with him today
and his twitch title is grimmed with SR before Zero
takes my spot, and so I feel like there's no
way you're putting that iceer stream title.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
Yeah. Well, I'll say this, like I think, for the
most like, just if we took everything else out right,
the most sense would be is that Zapp is replaced
on SR just for like their best shot to win.
I think a land in my opinion. But if he
was including everything else like I was with what Signium
coy It said in the past, that doesn't seem very realistic.

(22:13):
And obviously Zapp just joined them, it just doesn't really
seem like that should be the option. I mean, again,
we mentioned the Zzy stuff that you know they're not
signed to an org. You know one of those players
gets poached, does hed hop in it. It really just
doesn't seem like there is just like a natural landing spotform, right,
But like somebody is gonna be like, we have to

(22:35):
move somebody for this guy. So I think that's what
makes this so interesting is that we just don't have
that ready made option because it's not a typical roster
mania period that we see. It's literally a weekly uh
roster lock that we're looking at, not a split roster lock.
So it's gonna be it's gonna be one that we
show up on Monday, you know when everyone's waking up.

(22:57):
We see Twitter as soon as Hall goes live. I
wouldn't be surprised we see Ted twenty twenty five thousand
people in that thing. Wait for whoever, it's gonna be
that announced seeing you know, when Wig goes live and
seeing everybody in the in the Scrimbles lobby, like it's
gonna be it's gonna be interesting if y'all want to
tune in to find out, that is the time to look.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
So it's gonna be like the Suite when like he
announced the ORG but then like did the tell all
and put up that that it's gonna be a good
event like that, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
It shocks. The world goes to a pac North municate
with them, the world.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Makes up. Oh my god, who would you even go?
I think you don't only want to go play with
Yuka or something like that, you know, like.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
Go play with that kakaguri from US. So just run
down the lobby.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Just imagine it would be so funny.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Dude, that funny when ashing out. But they also have
no idea what he's saying.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Maybe that maybe that's the benefit, right, like they just
have he Maybe they.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Could ever, because they have no idea what each other, you.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Could just let loose. They have no clue.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Using pings and stuff like that to.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Communicate in game ping system, which is fantastic by the way,
So you know it's.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Always a possibility.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah, I uh, yeah, I don't know, because I was
thinking z z would be the spot which would again
would suffer for Zach. But it's just like I I
just I know that that's like unfortunately, sometimes guys see
the things like, oh, it's a business deal. Other than
that though, like there's also contract issues there. I wonder
like how is contract even worth with his Falcons and

(24:42):
where he's allowed to go with a buyout, because like
if he does have a buyout and they don't just
terminate the deal, I'm assuming that Bible was gonna be
pretty expensive and what orgs have that money to spend
right now with the current climate, with ORGS actually leaving APEX, so.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Or is just in general, like esports in general, just
really not in a good place right now. Yeah, it's
definitely gonna be difficult and it could make for a
really tricky situation here.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
What if Zach.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
But zero is one they pay for because yeah, yeah,
history shows that that's a that's a buy out where
you're gonna get your return.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
On investment exactly. What if Zach?

Speaker 1 (25:24):
What if they move on from Zach then Zach picks
up design Chaotic, we get Team BBB back Bald brit
and Browse, and we see what happens there.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
You never know.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
The possibilities are endless.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Possibilities are endless.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
I think they did they not?

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, I don't think they're that endless either.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
BBB didn't even make freakin' That's why I made that face.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah no, uh yeah, I mean it's it's gonna be
hard to tell what's gonna happen here. I guarantee by
the time I upload this out episode Friday morning, there's
going to be all the news that'll render this episode useless.
And that's just what happens to me every single time,
so you know, it is what it is.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
But that is the roster Mania.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
That is the big story from this week in Apex Legends,
Global Series, Worlds, all of those rounds. But we do
have some games that dickul play this week, boys, so
we might as well talk about those just a tiny bit.
We can talk about those just a little bit here.
Let's move into the games here real quick. We'll kick
it off with the first day Saturday. Vertus Pro absolutely

(26:35):
dominates eighty nine points in that first lobby. LG was
right behind them with Naughty as the IGL third place
with Stallion's fourth place was fourteen k and then fifth
place was d Gap. Boys, gotta feel good for mt Man.
You gotta feel good for EMT. Obviously things didn't work
out with Shopify Rebellion, but he goes in, he comes

(26:58):
over to the Vertice Pro and they go really well
and he continues to prove why he's like such a
mainstay in in pro league, which is just how good
he is in the scene.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Absolutely insane. Would you see done?

Speaker 4 (27:13):
Yeah, I mean it was just a consistency from them,
you know, really throughout throughout the day. You know, they
you know, outside of really maybe that first game. You know,
they just overall played extremely well. It was it was
a performance again, like he mentioned, like we just almost

(27:33):
come to expect from teams that are led by Empty, right,
Like they're they're usually making a lot of final circles,
They're playing a lot of really good spots, and he's
working with two players that you know, really do a
great job of listening to his comms. One big thing
I know he mentioned about moving over to with this
vertue pro roster was that it just felt like he

(27:53):
can play a little bit more of his style of game.
And it wasn't anything that like you know, with Zina
mccoyfold that he was like really said about. It's just
it's something that seems a little bit more natural to
him to be able to call a hard zone game
style versus a kind of running gun edge play style
that Shopify light to play at times. So for Empty,
I think it just comes more natural, maybe a little

(28:14):
less second guessing, you know, a little bit more of
really all in on his calls. And I think you
just saw the results of a team that is so
in sync the results they're able to produce. I mean,
they had a ten kill second place, They had a
eleven kill first place, and they ended up wrapping up

(28:35):
the day with an eighteen point game as well to
kind of top it all off. So overall, this is
a really good performance. And his biggest knock that he's
had in his career is his output in fights, and
he had fifteen kills with fifty six hunderd damage, which
is very comparable to his other teammates. So if he's
putting that out as well, this VP roster could sneak
up in a lot of people. I think, because I

(28:55):
think a lot of people win Zach left, they wouldn't
know what it was going to look like. I think
Empty has definitely answered that. You know, Ted Fold with
what we could see from this time.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah, I mean the perfect person to fill in there.
The roster was already good before MT joined it. So
the roster was there, everything was set in place, and
like we mentioned before Pro League started, when we did
kind of like the preview, the one thing you could
say about MT was the Shopify run was great. But
the one thing you could say is that, well, I mean,
Zini was kind of already at a lot of points

(29:27):
throughout that Pro League split, kind of igling the team
and they were bouncing ideas back and forth. But like
you mentioned, it allowed him to just kind of be
able to come here and have a little bit more
of his own input to where he could play the
way he wanted to and could kind of settle in
and relax. And it had to feel good for him too,
because I believe the final kill in the final game
was against Shopify to pull off that win. So, you know,

(29:49):
always good little things like that when you get moved
on from so had to feel good for it.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Feel good, Yeah, just some feel goods. Just some feel goods.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
And then let's enter in a clip of me being
stupid as shit a few episodes ago where I said,
what the hell is going on with LG Luminosity Natty's igelling, Yeah,
I'm not impressed by that. Uh yeah, I could go
ahead and shut up because not he did good. Not
he did real good and people were talking about it, Jumba,
what did you see that?

Speaker 2 (30:19):
It was amazing? Like, you know, there's just there's been
a couple of other players we've seen that have like
gone from like you know, more fragger type role, like
even like we're not He's bounced around a bunch of
different Roles been around the scene for a long time
and has never felt like like he does give good comms.

(30:39):
He gives keeps with the vibes like he's always talking
every player does, right, but he's never seemed like the
Igl slash co Ig All like type. Right, so at
least like from what I've seen, I'll hand up. If
you guys disagree with that, that's totally fine, like either well,
I mean we're talking about listeners, Like if they disagree
with it, totally fine. But so like you know, to
go from that, someone like Zapto was like an the

(31:00):
one who good calms, good ideas in the moment, but
like didn't ever seem like Coigell And like the short
stint that he was playing before he went an IGLTSM,
it was like, you don't expect that guy uh to
come in and have like such a commanding voice, be
so like dominantly like that you get your players to
like buy into your plans and then execute on those

(31:21):
plans as a team too, like the highest level possible
to do what they were doing. That shit was impressive
and inspiring and it's not to be like, oh, we
didn't think Naughty is a good player like not to
like knock him down or anything like that. It's just
it's not hard ask any guys who like Igal, like
there's so much more you're paying attention to when you
have the like that on your on your your mental

(31:43):
in the games, that like, it's not easy. So to
step in and do as good as he did in
his first days put his team into a position where
their fifth overall right now was really really impressive and like, yeah,
shout out to him, shout out for that performance. It
was so entertaining to see. Their coms were so funny,
the vibes were like at an all time high and

(32:04):
and everything was engaged. Uh yeah, it's just like we
were watching Jayhawk stream and I don't think he would
even turn off their POV at good amounts of points
because it was just too impressive, entertaining and good to
watch about how he was like someone say like we
need to do this, He's like, shut up, no, listen

(32:24):
to me, trust me, we're doing this, And the two
others would just be like, we trust you, let's do it,
and they fucking win. He was calling his shots like
no other.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
I think that's what was so impressive too, is like
We honestly had everything with Naughty, but we also hired
Jelly who just joined the team, and we had Shuby
that were just like, yep, let's do it. Like you
could tell they've already like developed this chemistry that's very
hard to do when he gets somebody new as the
main voice. And I was, you know, mentioning, and we
have all just as the boys of talking about sometimes

(32:56):
when a guy just gets put into those leadership positions,
they get which sometimes you see the opposite, you know
part where it gets a lot worse. But with Naughty,
it just seems like, at least to start with, like
he is fully ready for the moment. He is fully
prepared to put his team in the positions he thinks
they need to win. And I mean especially that game
five when they won that game they were holding the

(33:18):
space against two of their teams and just the absolute
microcom masterclass that was going on of you were doing this,
you were doing that, you were watching this with ramp
part walls, you were doing this, putting pressure to force
them this. It was like literally watching a chess master
go at work, like it was absolutely insane. The pieces
he was putting Jelly and should be in and yeah,

(33:40):
I mean it's just it's so cool to see somebody
like that because I think a knock on Naughty has
been at times that he's been a little bit too
frantic and not really had you know, he's been good comms.
I think at the opposite end, there's been times where
people like he gets too over antsy with it. He
was perfect this this set and it was it was
so cool to watch because I think of people are

(34:00):
fans of Naughty just as like the person he is,
So it's really cool to see those kind of guys
have success.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah. I just think that the energy that he brought
is like also what gets that buy in from his teammates.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
Yeah, one hundred percent. That's so much easier to lock
in when somebody is fully like locked into every detail.
It's like, sure, if you're gonna think everything, then I'll
just follow what you need to do. Man. So it's awesome.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Yeah, it was really impressive.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
And just just watching him from Afar for so long,
I never thought the transition could happen.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
I didn't think that that was a role that he
could really fit into.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
And the fact that they're able to get second place
on this day and uh and and really kind of
show out, like show the potential that they have.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Now.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
I still think this team has a little bit of
they lack certain things still, So I'm not gonna go
out of my way and just say like, okay, like
they're gonna they're gonna, you know, dominate, because when we
get into the next day here in a little bit,
you know, I want to bring up some of the
things that I worry about with this team. And it's
not even necessarily naughty with with his uh igling. There's
some other problems. But the rest of the day, there

(35:00):
there were a few teams that just didn't do well overall.
You look at like the one hundred Thieves, they kind
of were down there with twelve falcons of fifteenth sentinels
at seventeen, So a lot of teams who you would
expect to do better still struggling out the gate a
little bit here.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
But that was the overall day for day number two.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
As we move into day number three, we had Unreal
Nightmare at the top with KCP Pioneers in second, and
Unreal Nightmare kind of had like a decent eleven point
lead on the day. Ninjas of Pajamas in third, and
nice to see my boy Monsoon Oblivion in for the
Shop of I Rebellion in fifth. I'll kick it off
with Unreal Nightmare don For people who don't know who

(35:37):
this squad is, who the hell are they?

Speaker 4 (35:41):
So it's really interesting because it's a team that does
not have a lot of pro league experience. I believe
Wave Davis Wave has the most. I think he's been
in a few splits of Pro League, but I know
Rails and Huntsmen are pretty I think it's actually a
Huntsman's first split a par league if I saw correctly,
I think it might be Rails like second split a
pro league. So there's not a ton of experience. But

(36:04):
I think just the biggest thing for them is just
again we've kind of had this trend of teams that
you know, haven't had a ton of experience in Pro
league are taken advantage of the meta that I think
can play to the strengths of teams that maybe don't
have as much experience. You know, they can play, you know,
this play style that they're able to play is a
lot I don't want to see, even say simpler, but

(36:27):
it just kind of meshes a little bit better for
these teams. And I just think that, you know, when
you have these weapons, we can proke from distance, you
can consistently put pressure from spots. It's just the biggest
thing is putting yourself on the right spot. And a
lot of these guys have played this game long enough
to know what spots they need to get to. It's
just you know, making sure your timing is right, to
make sure you're always on point. And then from there
it's just holding down your spot and being an absolute

(36:49):
menace with you know, thirty thirty's in charge rifles and
what have you. But yeah, it's just overall, again a
really solid performance. Again, I always look like, you know,
how many points from kills, points from placement that they're
getting pretty balance? Is it heavily leading one way or
the other? I mean they had thirty six skills, thirty
three placement points, they led the lobby, and damage They
led the lobby and plus their plus minus and damage

(37:11):
by the way, which I know we don't talk about much,
it was almost ten thousand, yeah, which is insane.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Stat feel like it.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Was two hundred.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Yeah. Second, that's the thing is like I feel like
that stat is unimportant unless you have an outlier like
that that means they're just not taking shots, like they're
just not taking any sort of damage at all, which
when you go into fights later on, makes it real
easy to win.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Yeah, And I think the biggest thing too, is like
when you can put that much pressure and not take
in as much pressure, you get a lot more comfortable
throughout the match day, Like you're like, damn, we are
like putting pressure on teams and they are not able
to pressure us back. So it was again a really
really good performance for a team that, again I don't
think you would expect I was coming into the day
to be the ones that won the match day, but

(37:56):
you just, again you have to tip their cap to
a team like this that, you know, when they don't
have all of the experience in the world of pro league,
they can still step up and say, hey, on the
right day, like, we're going to be there and if
you can't match you know, our output and damage, we're
going to find ways to win games. And it was just, again,
it was a really cool thing to see. And I

(38:17):
you know, it's just one of these pro leagues where
you can say, oh, maybe it won't happen again, but
who's to say it won't you know? They had like
four top fives, and anytime you do that, as long
as you get enough kills with it, you're going to
finish top three or four at least on the day.
So big shout out to those boys.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Yeah, Now what I will have to say, and I'm
not saying this happen to them, I have to look
a little bit maybe closer to like what happened on
the whole day. And the only reason why is because,
like I think, the big reason why we're seeing a
lot of consistency from the teams that have done well
in the past is sort of what Donnie was mentioning,
is that this meta And I brought this up a
little bit on broadcast and wish I explained it better,

(38:53):
But they asked me to jump on broadcast this week
because of like technical difficulties, and I had like the
barely any time to prepare. I literally wasn't even dressed
or prepare to get through this. I jumped on and
I talked about how I think that the pros have
had a shock, and I wish I explained it better,
because like what I meant by that is that everything,

(39:15):
not just the characters, this long range meta, the lower TTK,
the less evos out on the map, all the shotgun
like being like a major factor that just two pumps
and is kind of broken. The fucking PK. All those
things have made it that I feel like it's the

(39:36):
first time where I might be able to like that.
I would lean into saying that there's a good amount
of RNG or factors that aren't maybe not RNG, but
aren't controllable by teams. So it's like there's a vax
On tweet which a lot of pros respond to, like
hack is hal They all basically said, like, you could
be fighting on edge, and the way that meta works
right now is you're not dying in your bubble fight

(39:58):
or in your fight on Edge. You're dying by a
t shooting you from distance with a charge rifle or
a thirty thirty that can to tap you. And it's
really frustrating because it feels like in the way that
the current meta has played that Edge is kind of
like just a shit play to play. Not that Edge
teams can't win. They I'm sure they still can, but
it's way more inconsistent than before, right, So it's not

(40:22):
something you could rely on, and that's because there's just
a lot more factors you can't control, so it becomes
a really tricky situation where it's like I actually got
to play some ranked with Jay Dott who is part
of KCP, who's currently first in Pro League, and I
was asking him if, like, you know, he thinks that,
like if he's been able to take advantage of that,
maybe these pros being uncomfortable in this current meta. And

(40:44):
I don't remember his exact answer, but it was like interesting.
He even was saying that, I think at least with
the character meta, he was saying that he thinks they'd
be doing better even without it, like if it was
better different, but like he was still like going along
and talking about the fact that like, yeah, this meta
is like pretty shit, but they've been able to adapt
really well. And he just said that Sirce in his
like first weeks of by Gelling, has been very very

(41:05):
adoptable and been very very good at it. So that's
kind of like the word right now. I know one
always says it with the meta change, just adapt, but
I think that it's been a little bit weird for
some of the pros with the inconsistency.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
You know, no, i'd agree.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Yeah, I think it's it's the perfect meta for I
should say this right now.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
I don't like this meta.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
I don't really enjoy watching this as much, but I
do think it is the perfect meta for the situation
we're in with this specific pro league split, because it
does allow for some of these other teams to maybe
even have a chance. I don't like this long term,
and honestly, I wish we were never in this situation
because I feel like there's just a lot of like,
I don't know, there's just not a whole lot of

(41:47):
emphasis on this pro league and I kind of don't
like it. But if you have this meta and you
pair it with exactly what's going on right now, you
look at the top overall standings, you got Pioneers up top,
Unreal Nightmare sitting at third, and obviously some teams have
not played two days, so.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
That is what it is. But you got like developed modern.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
Gaming in eight two days. By the way, say that
everyone's play.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
Oh everybody has played two days?

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Yeah, okay, yeah, so then even then it I think
it more confirms the point. It's like Unreal Nightmare sitting
at third deep or not deep, but like as we
go deeper into this season develop modern gamings, tied for eighth,
you have some of these other.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
Teams that you just wouldn't real witnesses right there even
but like.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Even if you want to go into deep of like
Exterminators and Oblivion being fifth and six, So you got
out of your top ten, you got one, two, three, four,
five teams that have to win Pro League to get
to land, right, And you wouldn't expect really, I don't
think I expected five of the top ten to be there,

(42:48):
and not to mention like you were just saying, like
you got like in your top five, you got three
of those teams. So it's like, you know, before when
I thought maybe this pro leagues all washed, like one
of our top teams just take it. Those guys don't
make it, they go to regional finals. Maybe if they're lucky,
one of them steals it. But realistically, I thought we
were just gonna have like maybe like seven is six

(43:09):
out of those eight spots that like, uh could be
taken by someone like winning like pro League and everything
like that pretty much eaten up by the teams that
are already qualified. Instead, we're sitting here, and you're right,
Like the region I thought that there was gonna be
no chance for most teams to get in, we got
three teams that are making a really good statement for themselves.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Not even just that, but if you look at the
bottom of this list here, you've got Sentinels at twenty seventh,
You've got DKK, who I was high on early, at
twenty fifth, TSMS down there in twenty third, you've got
Team Falcons at twentieth. You just have a lot of
these teams that you would have expected to do a
lot better. And not just that, not just the fact
that Falcons is down there, but now they're having a

(43:48):
whole roster Mania.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Situation play out midway through the pro League. So yeah,
at least they're all.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Different though, But Sentinels kind of Sentinels, TSM, those are
like chopping block teams.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Yeah, where they need to should be.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Autoquall almost because if like the way it worked that
we talked about in previous pods, but like realistically, if
they like drop no points and a team underneath them
gets like second, it starts to put in the question
a little bit like is there the math there that
kicks them out? I I don't know, but like I
think Donnie and j are working on something about that,

(44:20):
so we'll see.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
But yeah, and and this is once again we could
go into a whole reason why this system is weird,
but it would piss me off of a team like
Sentinels who made it to the finals lobby on our
two lands just somehow doesn't make the the finals because
of or sorry Champs if they don't make Champs because

(44:45):
of how these Champ Champs points work out, and it
could be even weirder with what happens.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
For sen is fine, sent is fine. I made I
made the mistake because I was like, as soon as
you said two finals, like, wait a minute, I'm like,
that's after you two many points, there's no way they
don't make it through. Yeah, said, like what you just
said that worried me a little bit, Like I started
thinking with the fact that they did. They didn't do
great like in last split, but they did make both

(45:13):
finals at lant so we did.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
Yeah. Yeah, so four teams just what we're talking about.
Because me and Jay have put together a spreadsheet for
Champs points, which obviously they have the stuff online, but
this kind of allows us to kind of play out
some scenarios of like, okay, if this team finishes there,
where does it do you know, what does it do
for the champs points. Basically, the four teams from the
Americas that we want to look at that are on
the bubble right now are Pioneers, Liquid, TSM, and hot

(45:37):
Dog Mafia. Those four teams are in like the twenty
five to thirty range where you know, if you have
a really bad split, it could knock you out depending
on how some other teams do. And then teams like Oblivion,
they're further down the list. Unreal nightmare, all those kind
of teams. You know, even LG now Exterminators, those teams
are probably gonna have to win Pro League or win
regional finals one of the two. But those four teams,

(45:58):
for sure, again, if they have a really bad split,
it could be a lot of trouble. And you also
have to remember too, you have to still finish other regions.
Oh and you have to finish top twenty to even
get to regional finals. So like, I know it's super
early right now, but like always continue to keep that
in mind of like, yeah, these teams that finish twenty first,
twenty second, like they're not gonna have an opportunity to

(46:19):
win regional finals because you've got to get there first.
So you say, there's just so many scenarios coming out there.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Man, you said hot Dog Mafia, TSM and Liquid and
then yeah and then Pioneers. So Pioneers is already they're
they're leading this thing. But if you look at you
look at where it's at right now, tsm's at twenty third,
you have Hot Dog Mafia in twenty second, and then
you have Team Liquid down there.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
At twenty eight. I'm exactly, it's it's it's gonna be
a tight race.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
Yeah, And these match days come and go very quickly,
Like we're gonna have Group A is playing at Double
Block this weekend. They're gonna only have two more chances
after this weekend to get enough points to qualify for
ritual finals. So like every match day from here on out,
like you can not throw away Like you.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Said twenty third, So twenty third, you would get thirty
six points per player. Let's talk that up to that's
basically nothing. Yeah, like that's basically nothing. But then if
you got oh, is that thirty six points overall? Thirty
points per player, because then after it's a second overalls
thirteen hundred points, but you don't get thirteen hundred points

(47:22):
per player, right Donnie, for I thought it's like only
like four hundred per player.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
I'm pretty sure we figured out that those dumbers are
like per player because we were also surprised because like,
winning pro.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
League is thirteen to fifty per player. I think so
or seventeen forty per player, because I mean, then if
that's the case, then yeah, like if a team like
Oblivion got thirteen fifty per player, then that shakes up
the standings a ton. They could absolutely knock out team
like DSM. Yeah, but I thought that that was I'm
looking at Liquipedia right now, but I thought that that

(47:53):
was team. I remember seeing something that said second place
was like around four hundred per person, which if you
do four hundred times three, that would come out to
about twelve hundred, and it says thirteen fifty. I could
be wrong either way. I think it still adds up
its scales, Like if you thirteen fifty added to a
team with like a thousand points. If we're talking about
like you grow a different region, like oh seven, say

(48:14):
they get second place, thirteen fifty add to theirs. Will
absolutely jump a team like TSM if they were to
finish twenty third overall.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
So yeah, So as we look at the standings right now, Pioneers,
like I said earlier, obviously they are in first place
right now, Team ZZ in second, Unreal Nightmare and third,
Vertus Pro in fourth, Luminosity in fifth, Shopify in sixth,
Oblivion in seventh, Rocky Sports in eighth, d DMG in ninth,

(48:42):
one hundred Thieves and tenth, and that rounds out your
top ten for the America's region as it stands right now.
Lots of teams down there below, but lots of roster
mania to be had, and we could be saying about TSM,
who knows, who knows what even happens with that roster
with everything going on right now, so of moving pieces
in this pro league right now, and it's going to

(49:04):
be very very interesting in the next coming weeks. Boys,
me and Donnie, you're gonna send it on down to
the regional recap where we're gonna go through some of
the other regions around the ALGs talk about what happened
in their double scrim block, and then after that we're
gonna send it on down to the heart to heart.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
He is waiting for us over there.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
He's gonna talk about the run to Masters with Jumba,
and then we will send you guys on the rest
of your week. Let's take a quick break and send
it on down to the regional recap. All right, ladies
and gentle it's round it out with the regional recap
around the league, double blocks for every single region, and
donn I feel like it's best to start off with

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some em EA.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
What do we have from em A this weekend?

Speaker 4 (49:49):
Yeah, so basically what we're looking at is it was,
as always quite the wild Ones to say the least.
We saw a lot of struggles again from the start
for Alliance, but in typical Alliance fashion, they find a
way to drop thirty one points in the last game
and still win the freaking match day. So just you know,

(50:10):
classic Alliance performance. It seems like, you know, they just
saved the best for the last type situation. But yeah,
you know, they come out, they go crazy towards the
latter half. You know, Effect stilens the day with nineteen kills,
you know, just typical stuff that Alliance loves to do.
But no, they yeah, they towards the end looked really good.
I think Go Next is probably the most consistent team
the entire day. Light is looking really good as the

(50:32):
IGL right now with Henchman and kinda you know, obviously
we were, you know, big fans of the GG roster
until things kind of got a little bit of split
split and just weren't working out towards the end. But
Light has definitely seemed to have found his footing so
far over with the Go Next roster. Speaking of the
old Go Next igl Atin them actually comes in third

(50:54):
with Trojan who's now playing with Kiner and No No,
so big shout out to those guys again. Attingham see
to have found a decent place for himself as well.
But overall, again just at a lot of fun things
during the e NBA. In this first block we also
got to see you know, task Master and Oi Rain
which is the pot roster, and then the comeback of

(51:19):
our Decie Man. I think that's one last thing we
can round it off with that first set is hard
Deki is back playing pro Apex, which is what we
all love to see. He's back with Kazakh and nine
End Pulse. They get a sixth in their first block,
but you know, kind of get into the second block
a little bit too now they actually go on and
win that one, So they learned pretty quick, I guess

(51:41):
from that first block they did before and absolutely tore
it up the next day. Nine end Pulse leading the
team with sixteen kills. Played very well all the way throughout.
They had eighty points of the day, which was by
far and clear what the next best team had On Sunday,
Go Next right there again they get second, So again
I would say probably the most consistent team for me

(52:03):
right now is Enemia is Go next Again. I've been
a big fan of Light, you know, he's obviously had
a really good year last year and then the start
of this year has been kind of a struggle. But
again it seems like he's found this footing with this roster,
at least so far through the first rotation to games.
So definitely a team to be keeping our eye on
as we move throughout pro league. Empire Gaming takes third place,

(52:27):
which Arctic is probably the main name he's been on
the phase rosters and stuff before, so they end up
taking third, and then Oi Rain and task Master and
Prestis get fourth with pot and then Roadhouse, which is
Acu Luf gun Blasts, which obviously another guy from those
GIGI rosters. They take fifth again. Big takeaways, Like I said,

(52:49):
for me, Go Next again. Most consistent for sure, obviously
Alliance bouncing back and doing their thing there, but overall
just you know, again a lot of really fun games.
It's just been a weird, man, it's just been weird.
Like Americas really haven't seen like the consistency really from
a lot of the big names yet. But I think
with the way that weekend ended, you know, teams like

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Go Next and even like Alliance you know, really found
their footing towards the end.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Are we worried at all about NAVI?

Speaker 4 (53:18):
It is definitely a rough start. I haven't got too
much of actually being able to watch their POV. The
biggest thing I think that I've seen is that they've
still been able to you know, get their kills most
of the time throughout because I mean, just even taking
a look at those kill numbers, they're in the top
six or seven in terms of kills in the region
through the first couple sets, but they just aren't really

(53:40):
getting deep into games and getting that placement. So I
know NAVI was one of those teams that was doing
a very good job of getting a ton of kills
last Pro League, But they might be one of those
teams like we've talked about with with like Falcons and stuff,
you know, where they really got affected with when they
try to play Edge. You know, the EVO changes is
how they're a lot more centralized now because I know

(54:02):
we mentioned that the timings, but another part of the
EVO changes is making sure that they are are Sorry,
the evos have all been moving towards the center of
the map now where they spawn instead of spawning on
Edge as much, and they also reduce the amount of
EVO spawns on the map as well. So the biggest
thing for them I think is making that adjustment from

(54:24):
not having as much EVO on Edge, being able to
get to Purple immediately like they used to in the past,
and really trying to find a way to maybe get
to Zone a little bit faster because right now, I
know a lot of those Edge teams from prior seasons
of APEX have struggled with still getting the same amount
of points that they are used to.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Yeah, so now we move into a Pac North and
APAC North, we have a little bit of movement around there.
Don what'd you see from APAC North on the double block?

Speaker 4 (54:55):
Well, yeah, I mean kind of the polar opposite of
like kind of how like NAVI plays the first block,
a Tie actually takes the win. They only had twenty
four kills on the day, but sixty two points total.
And I think that's really a trend that we're starting
to see is a lot more of these teams that
used to not be able to get high placements on
per league match days because they don't have enough kills.

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If they are really on top of their game and
they are getting to like these zones quick, they actually
are finding ways to be able to win more of
these games or getting those top two or threes. Just
because we've really seen the shift almost back to like
the Gibbee Newcastle ramparts, you know, those kind of comps
really started to shine a lot more. And Tie was
definitely a team that again did a great job of

(55:39):
finding placement. Just taking a look at their games. They
won game one, they got second game two, second game three,
and then fifth game five, so like multiple top fives
again not getting a ton of kills, but again it
seems right now, at least for the startup per league,
and this isn't even just a back North, this is everywhere.

(56:00):
Because we saw Cybercats last week. They only won they
want to pre league match day with nineteen kills. So
it just seems to be one of those things right
now that until at least a lot more teams kind
of make the adjustment of you know, not having the
evos as much as they're used to, and you know,
obviously the adjustments with like weapons like the thirty thirty
and the charge rifles which kind of allow zone teams

(56:21):
to like poke a lot more and get a lot
more you know, knocks and damage and things like that.
I think we're going to see a lot more of
these zone type teams, you know, start to shine a
little bit more at least until again we see like
the adjustments of for teams on edge.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
But yeah, yeah, and then when we move into the
second block, another team that we saw last week in
the regional recap, Sotan back up top.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
I believe they got second last week.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Once again, they're back up here in first and it
just kind of seemingly just playing their best right now.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
I mean again, Kaka Gory does a great job. He
was huge last week with thirty one kills in their
match day. He gets another sixteen in this set. And
again the Soatan seems to be one of those teams
that's been able to fight and get the kills but
also stack long enough placement points to propel themselves in

(57:15):
those top two or three spots. I mean again, they
added a guy like mia Kay. I kind of mentioned
it last week with the regional recap. You kind of
add that extra experience and kind of changes maybe the
way that they were playing a little bit last split,
and I think we're starting to see some of those
those results early of Miakay's kind of influence on the roster,
because anybody knows it's watched the region long enough, he's

(57:35):
played for quite a long time, and it's you know,
has had some good experience on different rosters. So I
think this seems to be a match Bad in Heaven
kind of like what Light's been with Go Next so far.
And yeah, just a team we definitely want to watch.
Just other quick notables from this roster Unlimit or from
this day Unlimit its second place, which thatch lari Man

(57:57):
for those who remember from last split, he was kind
of like the big are that's shown and that's first
split up pro league, but he has sixteen kills. His
teammate piece actually leads the team with twenty one kills
on the match day, so they were absolutely frying and
it ended up getting in second place. They had forty
two of their fifty seven points come from kills, so
they kind of sad screwed the EBO stuff or to

(58:17):
go do our thing. But yeah, they definitely played well.
And then Fanatic again following up what they did last
week with another third place again seems to be really
consistent along with Sutan right now, and that's really put
Fanatic again kind of back in the place that we
expect them, you know, at least the first couple of weeks,
we haven't seen those bat results.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
And I was going to kind of bring that up
because I remember in the regional recap all before EWC,
we had talked about how with Fanatic there wasn't a
whole lot of time that the team had to gel together,
and now we're starting to see like more time underneath
the belt of everybody with this roster. Now it seems
like things are starting to settle in once again.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
Yeah, I think, you know, because I think I even
mentioned it before, like, I felt like this roster was
gonna be a long term roster. It wasn't gonna be
one that was going to have the quick results I
think everybody was hoping to see. But I thought, if
they stuck around, you know, they continued to work together,
this could be a team that come chance. You know,
obviously it's in Japan. All these players are from Japan.
You know. You put the young talent like cardl Garcia

(59:18):
and in Libelace, you combine it with the experience and
the absolute playmaking ability of UF. There's just a lot
to like about that roster. And again, I think we'll
steadily see this team continue to improve.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
So then we move into the final region here Apax South,
and we kick it off with a versus c On
day two, Boogie Borders takes the day Dream Fire and second,
but then a notable name Wolves in third once again.
Now Kadzia finally is able to get back out there,
they get fourth place.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
What'd you see from the first day?

Speaker 4 (59:49):
Yeah, so really with this first I know I didn't
get to watch as much, but I got to talk
with b Rad. Big shout out to him for letting
me hop on the on the stream again this past weekend,
but it also stayed up till five in the morning
to watch this. I don't know why I did this myself,
but I just we're gonna, you know, we keep doing it,
I guess if the content works. But anyway, the first
couple of games, boogie Board Boogie Borders wins the match day,

(01:00:12):
they win the first two out of three games, which
they definitely have some solid players, but just kind of
seeing the reactions around the beach and it was definitely like,
this is definitely not what we expected. But unfortunately, I
think the main story was the so many resets. Unfortunately
because of the the Conette situation that was going on.
I think we beat r Miss, not to re least

(01:00:32):
mention that it seems like they started to sort those
issues out, but unfortunately Apex South was that's kind of
the guinea pig for some of those issues. But we'll
focus on the gameplay though. Again Boogie Borders Metro is
one of the main names on that roster. They played
very well those first couple of games. They weren't really
getting they didn't get a ton of kills in their

(01:00:53):
first win, but then they ended up getting sixteen kills
in their second win, which was Game three, and again
they just looked really good. They were running you know,
comps with a Gibbie, which seems to be working really
well for some of these teams around the world right now,
and they're just another example of that. So a lot
to see if they continue to you know, use that
particular character selection moving forward, because they ended up using

(01:01:16):
them for all six games. So I mean, if you
can drop an eighty point set with character like that, again,
I'd be shocked if we don't see more gibbies gibbies
around the around the region.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
And then we move into day two, t y K
and then Ging sitting at the top. It was a
one point difference. We had a one point difference. It
was seventy two to seventy one. Third place was Saul
and then fourth place was Cupid E sports down what
you see.

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
Yeah, t YK kind of took a page out of
Alliance's book. Had a big last game, a ten kill win,
which is what propelled them to the first place overall.
Over Ging there obviously again Ging everybody knows they looked
great once again, you know, age of sixteen kills leading
the team, but Yeah, t Yk doing a great job,

(01:02:04):
very balanced scoring with thirty six kills and thirty six
placement points. He always loved to see things like that.
That just means teams are doing really good job of
doing both. But Pat getting nineteen kills overall a huge
shout out to him. Again, I mean, they were just
absolutely dropping numbers. When it came to damage. They had
twenty one thousand damage as a team across the set,

(01:02:25):
which is definitely a huge number to drop in only
six games. But yeah, I mean the biggest thing with
them is just that they really turned it on when
it came to World's Edge. They had, if I believe
I do my math right, forty one of their seventy
two points came towards those latter half. So still pretty
good balance between D and World's Edge. But one of
your last couple of games, you dropped ten and they

(01:02:47):
dropped twenty two and able to make that comeback. I mean,
all power, you know, all credit goes to them, and yeah,
I mean, just really good from them. Great job in
terms of that set. Saul doing a really good job
as well, getting in the third place again. A lot
of experience with Legacy Sharky Jesco at this point roster again,

(01:03:08):
I think we'll always continue to see you are making lands,
you know, make a name for themselves on that stage.
But yeah, I mean just overall, a really fun way
always to start the weekends by watching a Pax style
because you see some amazing ability fighting, you see some
crazy end games, and uh yeah, I always love to
watch the region.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
Yeah, he packs out the region of fun, ladies and gentlemen.
We're gonna move on down into the Heart to Heart.
Send you guys on the rest.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Of your week.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Let's get it all right, everyone, time for the Heart
to Heart. We got e here. Uh and really because
we got to talk about it. Jumpa got some masters
ladies and gents. Jump Has got to Masters.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Raps made it. It was It was fantastic the role Jumba.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
You came in here, you needed to get you had
like a concept for a video, you needed to get
to masters, and you got there.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
Man, how does it feel.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
There's three thousand masters right now in this season, one
of the lowest counts ever and I'm one of them.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
No, it was a ton of fun. Yeah, I to
give more context, like it was real quick I know,
like mid episode last week or two weeks ago, you know,
I randomly was like, E, I had this idea. I
remember we talked about it off thing, would you want
to be a part of that? And I remember there's
people asking, but I don't know it was comments or somewhere.
Someone was like, what was trying to find out if

(01:04:34):
I was doing this stream challenge? I think they came
to my chat and they said, are you doing this
stream marathon with E? Of getting the Masters? Is like
still ironing out the details, but I thought it was
like coming along and I hadn't talked to E at
the time yet, but nonetheless, yeah, So what I basically
had is I had an opportunity to have a PC
and do a really cool brand deal with a partnership

(01:04:56):
sent out to me. But to do that, the video
idea I wanted to be that I was gonna stream
until I hit Masters. I have never hit Masters before.
I've done a lot of cool things with APEX, and
I feel like Masters seems like a really obvious one
because most seasons, if you're slightly above average, you could
just get there. I've been within two hundred points several
times and just run out of time. So yeah, so
I commit to that. But I needed a squad who

(01:05:18):
was gonna be able to rank all day long. I
knew this was gonna be a tough season, so I
thought he would be the perfect person to help me out,
and thankfully he did. He helped get my ass there.
I think I contributed a lot more than I'm getting
a credit for. But either way, either way, I think
it was a blast. I think me and E had
a good week, good four days bonding. I don't know, E,

(01:05:40):
what do you think about it?

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
That was good? I definitely rough rough first day.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Rough first day.

Speaker 5 (01:05:46):
The first day, I was like, h I was like,
do I regret telling Jumba I'd help him with this
and that. I feel like Jumba thought, I don't know,
and we haven't talked about it, but I feel like
there was a chance that Jump I was gonna be like, yeah,
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
Doing this no more.

Speaker 5 (01:06:03):
And I was like, I'll see seven thirty am tomorrow, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Yeah, So like yeah, so like to give context more
to the people. It was like. So the way it
all kind of actually started is like I hadn't got
the chance to talk to E because we had to
keep rescheduling our pod from last week, and I felt
like it'd be easier for me to explain it over
the over like a call. Instead it just was explained
through DMS in the end. But like, so, I still
need to get started on at least getting some game against.

(01:06:28):
So I was Diamond three, and I was like, Diamond
three about two hundred RP and you know, eight hundred
away from Diamond two. And I hit up on set
and because I know he's from the UK, he could
play during the day, and I knew he was going
to be around, and I was like, yo, I need
a rank, crying like you want to hop on, and
we do a Q for a bit till we get
a third and me and Onset lose six hundred straight
RP and then after I hop on with Connor and

(01:06:50):
Tayfik at night and then we lose another two hundred.
I can't remember the exact number. All I know is
that I was at I was at Platt in motion
protection at one point. No, so yeah, that's what happened. Sorry,
I played with Connor and Taifik at night and then
we gained six hundred RPCE, so I got back up
a little bit. Then I went to go play with
E and our first day we lost six hundred RP again,
and so now I was close to Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
He lost at at the bottom.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
He went from top fifty to sixty ninth overall or
seventy first overall at one point, and I was thinking
by the end of that day, he was gonna be like, hey, man,
like I'm sorry, I want to like, you know, push
or top fifty, like it's just not gonna work. I
really apologize, hope you can figure it out. And like
at the end of our session after it's just like
a nightmare, and our second third or third third of

(01:07:38):
the day finally left us, our second Yeah, after our
second or third third of the day left us, he
just goes to all seven am in the morning again.
I was like, oh my god, he wants to do it.
He wants to run it back.

Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
The funny thing is that was like our third fourth
of our third third of the day, and I we
I lost our first third. When I told.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
Him that you were a diamond, he was like, I'm
not doing this and yeah, no, and I figured it
was actually like fourth third. I figured to be fair,
to be fair before it started.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
The one that we lost with him was Lunic, So
I'm pretty sure we had a blast with LUnix was
vibing the whole time, even though we were doing great.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
That good Lunis was the vibe.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Lunic saved the vibes because we had the sling shot
thing on. But then after this let it leads into
uh uh day two and we start off three hundred
our feet down. So now I'm nine hundred our feet down.
At least I'm three under our fet down we started down.
We're just as shit. And so I walk upstairs. My
mom's here and she's like, going any better. I'm like,
I don't know what I'm gonna do. I'm down to

(01:08:40):
you under our pee. I guess I'm not cut out
for this. I'm not gonna make it. I need to
fucking and so that's the thing. I'm like, I need
to send the PC back or I need to pivot
and find a new idea. I said, because like, what's
the point of me streaming every single day at this point,
it's not working. I'm ruining the vibes. Enoch's now number
fucking eightieth in the world or some shit like that.
When he was at fifty I'm like, this is all
terrible and like, and I can tell that some of

(01:09:01):
these guys I don't know if they want to play.
And then at that point the sling shot hit. The
sling shot fifteen sixteen hundred RP gain after that or something,
because you have to remember, we had to gain nine
hundred RP back and then I finished like one k
up on the day, so like we freaking farmed, and
then I got on with Connor, gone on with Connor
and Typic at night gained like another two hundred and

(01:09:22):
three hundred RP, which that is the biggest thing. I'm
gonna be fighting for my life about these carried allegations.
I did play with Connor and Typik every single night
on top of playing with E and we gained every
single night. So I was still gaining when I didn't
have two bread players to run with. But nonetheless, I'll
take the heat. I'm ready for it.

Speaker 5 (01:09:41):
Come at me, dude, And so you know, I get
allegations that I'm carried, and so you're certainly gonna get allegation.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, that's good to know. That's good
to know. And then like, uh, dude, and then like
we gained like roughly one K every day. I think
one day we had a Yeah, I said this to
the boys. He's the one thing that was funny is
we were I was up seven hundred and ninety YARP
at one point, and we started having a couple of
bad games and we started getting into it a little bit.
I'm like, why am I getting flamed? We're having a

(01:10:10):
good day right now, Like it's not day one. We
didn't even fight this one.

Speaker 5 (01:10:16):
I felt like I would say that there was one.
At least from my memory, there was only one time.
I felt like I got a little bit more irritated
than I should when there wasn't an alter TP down,
and I was like.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
What are we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
It's the funny thing is that happened one time. I
definitely didn't get the alter TV down. The other time
I was getting flavored not having it down. It was
down just the team that fucking ran and us found
it and broke it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
I'm like, I can't it was down.

Speaker 4 (01:10:43):
Like bro, it's just like a hot debate.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Well no, because then because then after a day later,
I'm asking the alter tps and someone said something like, no,
I'm not making that mistake again. About not having one down,
and he's like, was it that bad? And I was
more worried, Like I didn't. I wasn't upset about E
getting mad at me about the altar TP in that moment.
I was upset that I forgot to put it down
because I absolutely did throw that game. If I I

(01:11:08):
have the one role, I'm the role guy that TP's
gotta be there, and we run that the squad is
not there, we continue the slide. Yeah, so like yeah,
but all in all, he was Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:11:18):
I mean he he had a couple of games where
he was damaged.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
Later it was it was not a.

Speaker 5 (01:11:26):
Regular occurrence, but it happened a couple of times. He's
a great glue guy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
Great glue guy. I try to keep the vibes. I
try to keep the vibes. Every game started off with
this is the one, even when they weren't. But like,
you know, we're so bad, Like I would often say,
there's no there's no way we can be back if
we were if we're already there, you know, just hitting
the one liners. And then there was also a couple

(01:11:52):
of games I even had, well, there was one game
I had most kills I did, we didn't win that game.
We fucking threw in top five, so I didn't even
get my glory there, but it was gonna be a nuke.
I had like six or seven kilts, but you know, yeah,
you know it's gonna be hard to out damage Enoch
and the multiple we played with j Dot that means

(01:12:14):
first in pro league right now just YouTuber.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
It is funny with the carried allegations that like that
Enoch also gets them, because I'm pretty sure, Enoch, were
you not first in.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
Back to back splits? Now? I was one four.

Speaker 5 (01:12:34):
I got gate caps by an Apax South three man
that made it their like life's work to Gate keep
my number, my back to back number one, damn and
they all beat me out.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
The thing with the thing that's just funny with the
carried allegations too, is like, like I think a lot
of people just think that I'm absolutely dog shit at
the game, right, Like that's just like what is a
common thing, which like, yeah, I'm not on the level
of like top preads in the game. I've never said that,
but let's not act like the challenge exactly, but let's

(01:13:11):
also not act like getting masters is the hardest thing ever.
The only reason I haven't got it before is because
like I wasn't playing the game the I was. I've
been several Diamond one seasons where I just don't finish
the grind because I got more important stuff to do.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
I you know what's saying.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
It's gonna sound you I make money not playing the game. Yeah,
why you you could do it?

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
Probably listen listen.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
If I'm not doing it on a shotgun season, I'll wait,
I'll wait till the next bring back SMGs, I'll do it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
You're not gonna be brought up and stream that you're
next up, So you got you gotta get.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
I actually think like I hate to why, but no, Lily,
I was like, if I didn't it the way I did,
we can do it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
If I have to play with Why and Jumba.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Dude, you don't know what kind of role Guy Wyatt is. Though.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
What I was going to say is I was getting
text from people outside in the group saying like, hey,
the jump of things not going well right now. He
was he was five points away and now he's down.
And then I went in chat, I spit some straight
fire and I put some bars in there. All of
a sudden they get it within an hour, So.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
That said roughly one game away three hours. It took
us to get it out three hours. And I knew
as soon as as soon as we were five points away,
I'm like, this is gonna take a bit, I get say.

Speaker 5 (01:14:40):
And that Watson game really was the one that sat
us back big the never take the alter TP on
the Watson team, it never works.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
I Yeah, I think I celebrated too early, especial because
I'm always thinking about this from the framing of the video.
I think that if we got it on that five
RP game, the game right BEFO for that was like
the perfect climactic point, Like there was so many good things.
The chat was vibing, there was Waltz, like a bunch
of casters, Jay, all the boys, everyone was in there

(01:15:09):
at the time. It was a perfect climactic point. But
at the same time, the fact that it was five
RP away and the next game we threw and probably
the hardest way we threw through it the entire week
is kind of very comedic. So it's gonna be a
vibe I'm excited to like to at this view. I
think it's gonna be one of.

Speaker 4 (01:15:23):
The most great content.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Yeah, it was fantastic and shout out.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
This could not have been done without E and Connor
if I don't remembers Connor, our former editor of the pod,
you know, like Connor and Tyfik running it with them
at night. You know, that extra two because we only
get like two three hours to go, That extra two
three hundred RP we got every night helped us inch forward. There,
It did because every day I'd wake up, you know,
just me and he didn't have to suffer those slides

(01:15:49):
a little bit, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
All right, Well that's I'm sure that was the heart
to heart jump, but was was reaching the master's goal?

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
Don?

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
What was your made along the way?

Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
The friends? Yeah, the friends you made along the way?

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:16:04):
I had something else and then something pretty crazy happened overnight.
That's uh, it's from my ranked grind that has been
hard stuck Platt. This entire fucking split had a crazy,
pretty crazy one for three yesterday. Uh, pretty sick.

Speaker 5 (01:16:22):
I can vouch for all the viewers that it is
a sick one three EVA player.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
Don.

Speaker 4 (01:16:27):
Yeah, Eva is very goaded shout out to saying that's
been preaching the EVA and this entire split.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Donnie told me he was inspired by watching me use
the even our last games.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
I did say that too. I did say that too.
But uh but anyway, then, like I said, ended up
having the one v three had a crazy pop off
shout out to David and Kyle from GMB there they're
absolutely casts ended up and everything, and uh woke up
to see that it ended up on a ZIP highlight
video which of all the players that our friend group
to end up on that, I don't know how it

(01:16:57):
was me, but you know what, we'll take it. I'm
not about it. But now that was pretty sick, just
you know, see the support, you know, Cody saying, you know,
guys have been the pod before and I have helped
out with nice guys. They were liking in gassing it up,
and yeah, just a really cool moment to kind of
add another chapter to the rank, crying that this group's
been through this split. But yeah, pretty sick.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
Yeah, I guess all had my accomplishment in here. I
mean so many accomplishments across the board.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
I reached round fifty on Die Rise in Call of
Duty Black Ops two and.

Speaker 4 (01:17:31):
I streamed all about three viewers.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Solo and It only took me one restart where I
died on round three six times in a row. So
it's like, I mean, really, we're all on top of
the world here. The accomplishments can't stop coming in. For
the apex of podcasts, reaching round fifty, I also died
on round forty one. Stupidly. I also died on round
forty four because I because the game crashed. You know,

(01:17:56):
we we bounced back big time. It was a map
I learned in a week. Uh, just accomplishments galore. Fantastic.
What a show we have here, What a show. It's
it's great. Yeah, I mean my heart's heart really is
I'm so deep into zombies right now that it's actually
bad three weeks in a row.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
That's my heart to heart. I mean, I'm just so deep.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
I stayed up to like one am last night formulating
the perfect map ranking list, and yeah, I just keep
I just stare at it. Like every single day, I
just go in and I just stare at it, and
I just like make tweaks and and and then I'm like,
did I really give this one a fair shot? Go
back play it a lot. That's where I'm at right now,

(01:18:37):
Like replaying some of these, I found a modded version
that I could play Call the Dead on Black Ops
three because otherwise i'd have to buy Black Ops one.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
Doesn't huh, I think as a Oh it doesn't have
like the original?

Speaker 6 (01:18:54):
No, I think it does, oh because like because of
the I've heard the Black Ops three version has the
original Easter Egg, and I know that we've all talked
about doing like this Land Party version of doing the
original East Egg for Call of Dead, but I don't
know if that's ever gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
So like we could do the Call of Dead East
Egg on the mauded version, I'd be down.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
Yeah, No, I'm down with that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
I'm with that because well, the thing is, if we didn't,
we would have to buy Black Ops one and at
least by the one map pack to get Called the
Dead in order to play it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
The shitty thing is.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
You're buying a game for one map when all of
the other Black Ops one maps are on BO three.
So that's the annoying part about it. But yeah, I'm
deep in zombies right now, and that's my heart to
heart I have. I just keep, I just keep. I'm
so deep, I'm just deep in there. Your heart to heart.

Speaker 5 (01:19:41):
Yeah, I think I'm tapped out on my APEX charity
for at least a season or two.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
Because I was about to ask, uh.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
I'm just not.

Speaker 5 (01:19:54):
I mean, hey, if you had the time and you
were willing to get up and get on and make
it happen, I would like, actually right now, I'd make it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
I'd make it happen. It.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Actually I can't deny. You cannot deny. At the very least,
did I show up and I'm there?

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
Yeah? Yeah, never. Jumbo was never late. Never late. Never.

Speaker 5 (01:20:12):
I was way more late than Jumma was. But what
I will say is, uh, it was definitely it was
a good time.

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
I'm that.

Speaker 5 (01:20:19):
I'm I'm glad that like it happened during the season
where like I haven't had like the best of splits
and so like I was like around like the fifty range,
and so like I don't really care at that point.
It's like if I'm not getting like top twenty or
something like, it doesn't it doesn't really matter. And so
when Jumbo was like really like asking me if I
wanted to do it, I was just like, you know what,

(01:20:40):
like what what, Like, what's the worst thing that's going
to happen, and it's like I get to help a
friend now accomplish a goal and help him on his
on his video and uh.

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
We we will.

Speaker 5 (01:20:50):
Still have to do some talks with Jump, but has
said he'll he'll uh help me get some juice going
on YouTube, which I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
Looking forward to.

Speaker 5 (01:20:57):
That's my my YouTube long form game has been deceased
for about a year now, and so we'll hit.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
The revival on that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
And so but yeah, it was a good journey. It
was a good week.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
Grateful uh to do what I.

Speaker 5 (01:21:12):
Do and I'll keep on doing it, uh until I'm
no longer doing it, and whenever that time comes, it comes.
And so yeah, it's been Uh it was a good ride,
and I'm looking forward to uh next split hopefully hopefully
I'll be doing a little.

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
Bit better than I did this one.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Uh And so yeah, I'm just grateful.

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
Gonna go with the old, old, reliable gratitude.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Hell yeah, it's a ton of fun hopped in the
stream today. So he was down six hundred arpe and
I was like, damn like that the last three days.
Maybe he needs me.

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
I was like, I was like, am I the problem?

Speaker 4 (01:21:50):
At that moment? It was crazy, that's just jump on.
I was like, broad, that's what.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
Enoch just said and was jumping not the problem? And
then like do I need to step in?

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
And I need to come in for the slang shot.

Speaker 5 (01:22:08):
Yeah, it was a good reminder that I can lose
RP regardless of who I'm playing with.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
It's the talent I have. I think I.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
Did my part. I don't think I threw. Was there
maybe some missed PK shots? I think we are missed
PK shots. Was there many moments where Enoch was muted.
I'm not gonna say yes or no.

Speaker 4 (01:22:27):
You have to find out.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
People forget too that that Enoch got the number one
pread while also not missing an episode, which crazy crazy
that that actually happened back in the day. He's just that,
he's just a grinder. He's just an absolute grinder. He
just goes hard. But uh okay, Well, ladies and gents,
that's just about do it for this week's episode of

(01:22:54):
The Apex the Podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
Thank you guys for tuning in.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
As always, we'll catch you guys next week for another episode.
When we got this double block coming up, lots of drama,
lots of juicy stuff that's been going on.

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
We still got a lot of season left. Boys, girls,
We still got a lot of season left. All right.
We'll catch you guys next week.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
See y'a

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