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September 19, 2025 • 75 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
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Speaker 2 (02:04):
Now. There's a lot of stuff to get to here. Boys.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
We finally got the resolution that we were waiting for
last week. In one of the biggest turns of the
events that we've ever seen. There was a basically mid
split breakdown between the biggest team in the league, team Falcons.
We were all speculating trying to figure out what was
gonna happen here, and I think we start with the
actual team Falcons as it stands right now, Hal and

(02:30):
Waltsey have decided to go with Guild, who was playing
with ZZ at the time. Guild has now joined Falcons,
and this is a very very big move for a
very very big time player. And I'm gonna throw it
on down to you first, Jumba, just kind of talk
about this move and what you expect to see from
this new look Falcons with Guild there, because he brings

(02:53):
a lot to the table for the squad coming up here.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
I mean, the first thing I was gonna say is
I want to like almost go back to our predictions.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
I don't think they were.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
Even like like it was that hard to predict. But
I remember at least when we and I know I
might be jumping the gun here, but when we were
talking about it in our discord with all of each
other and everything like that, the first thing I mentioned
was Zero going to ZZ and them dropping Zach, which
I was like, that.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Obviously suck for Zach.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
It almost feels like a snake move, but like you
kind of it's Zero, right, But then after, as you
were talking about why that might not happen, it was like, oh,
on the flip side, they just take Sykes or Guild
and bring him to Falcons, and then who knows where
Zero goes, Like I don't know if I doubt he
would join Zach and then sucks at that point, and
then somehow both kind of happened because Funk was available

(03:43):
to move to the other roster. Speaking of Falcons specifically
and my thoughts on it, I mean, like we've seen
Waltzy and Guild play together before.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Back in Germany.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
They were the best team at that land except for
the finals day, but for the first three days they
were absolutely inane, and that was alongside Timmy. That was
with Walt Igelling at the time. But you know, those
two could play together. Guild's a world class player. It
kind of just made sense, and to see that trio
play together, I mean, it's another top team. Now they're

(04:13):
currently in twentieth and Pro League. They got a big
climb to get up the standing, so obviously they're still
qualified for Champs, so it doesn't really matter. But I'm
sure they're going to want to put in a lot
of work here to make a statement.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah, it's going to be It's going to be interesting.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
And Donnie, I think what Guild brings a lot to
this team is a little bit more versatility, and I
kind of wanted to touch on you for that, just
talk about Guild from the versatility aspect, like what he
can do for the rest of the split and potentially
in Champs to help them kind of make these transitional
periods between metas a little bit easier.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yeah. I mean, I think we've seen throughout Guild's career.
You know, he's played as a fragger, We've seen him
play as an anchor, We've seen him play as a refragger.
There's just a lot of different things he's been asked
in his career and he's just thrived wherever you know
he's been. You know, when he was with n RG,
you know, he's really good when he was with Team Liquid.
He was really good when he was with like, uh,

(05:16):
oh my god. I'm trying to think of a like
the NRG roster recently. LG. Moist. I mean, everywhere he's been,
you know, you basically have seen success. You know, he's
had multiple runner up finishes at Lands. But yeah, like
you mentioned, it's just his versatility of being able to
do what he's asked but also be able to provide

(05:36):
very thoughtful, decisive opinions as well. I mean, we're you know,
Jumbo's even joking about him already telling how that called
him an idiot already, so like you can tell he's not.
You know, the moment's not too big for him either,
and that's huge for something that comes into the situation
he's coming into. But he's already been on a bunch
of big teams with a bunch of big names, and
it just makes it makes so much sense for a

(05:58):
guy like this to come in, he said, with his
partnership with Walter already coming in with hal is the
i g L. His main role is what it looks
like he's gonna be playing a lot of likely controller legends,
but being more of that like refragging role with with
hel because how it's could be kind of like the
aggressive i GL. We've seen how kind of on the
on Maggie and on Wraith so far, at least in

(06:21):
the first couple of days Scrims, they tried the whole
like uh three you know, big man type stuff like
the Newcastle Gibbie and Caustic, it just doesn't really seem
to be like their best fit. I think it's definitely
be a lot more aggressive play style. I think what's
gonna fit best for them. And I think that's perfect
for them because I mean, we got three guys that
can absolutely frag out and Guild is definitely gonna be

(06:44):
I mean, he's gonna be able to absolutely shine. I
think with this roster, as long as everything falls into place.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
The thing I'd also add is it like currently in
the meta, and I believe this is because of the
evil Harvester changers if they've added one to the map,
but there's lost value in characters like you know, Fuse
or characters that need to like get blue before they
can hit ring console. So you need to play controller
characters a lot more.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
And when we were.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
Watching like the previous weeks, like you got Hal on
Watson and stuff like that, right, So in this current meta,
Hall not being with Zero anymore is freeing him up
to be on the characters that he is the best at,
like you know when you watch them go win at
Lands because Hal was on Wraith and Zero's on Bank,
Like we haven't seen comps like that really being played
right now. You always got Newcastle Crypto, like you know,

(07:31):
the Walty's on, and they got Watson and Caustic and
all the Rampart and Cat and like sticking Hal on
those characters was just like really holding them back where
it's like now, he, especially Raith, seems to be really
fitting well into this meta with some ash nerves and
everything like that. You're gonna see the best of him
as well. So I think the timing is also working
out really well for them. That could have been a

(07:53):
big reason Falcons was struggling in the most recent early
days of this split.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
I think that this opens up Waltz to little like
a little bit more of a different role moving forward
to because I think for me and me and Don
were talking about this on the live stream, a lot
of people view Waltz right now, or I guess newer
viewers of the ALGs view walt right now as for
whatever reason, like not a good player, and I feel

(08:22):
like people don't realize that he is just on a
role that he had traditionally not played, and he was
kind of like forced into that role. When you're playing
with zero and you're playing with how and now I
feel like Jumbo they can kind of move into what
you were talking about. With a lot of these teams,
you're starting to see more of a fluid kind of interchange.
You look at a team like Alliance, I feel like

(08:43):
this roster opens that up a little bit more. Am
I wrong in that?

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (08:50):
Like the thing is like because yeah, because like you're
not how can fully take over whatever Zero was doing?

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Right?

Speaker 5 (08:56):
So it's like you know before where it was like
how in Zero, now it could maybe be like Halan
walt Waltz for example. So yes, I've been noticing that
because Waltzy's been playing that role so much now that
the Newcastle of the Cryptos, Like they still got him
on Crypto constantly. He was joking about it. I think
it was in either the last Pro League day or
one of his strim days. He dropped like two k

(09:18):
damage a game and he's like, I finally got to
shoot my gun for once, like because he's playing Crypto
and he has to see him, He's drone the entire game,
like not Walty. I was watching Sauce fucking Scrims yesterday
and then like he literally was just like full AFK.
I didn't know if the stream is frozen because he
was just in his drone not moving and so like
that shit's so boring, but that's what he has to do.
And like, yeah, new people come to the lgs. New

(09:40):
people saw, like who never knew Walt that much? Watched
Hal and Zero run around do all the shit, and
they're like, Walt, he's constantly throwing because they hear he
get yelled at and don't know that this guy was literally,
especially Germany, the best player in the world at that time.
It's like, gods so crazy.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, what you're.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Saying, right, I think to add to that too, is
I think we're going to see a lot more of
interchange between Guild and Walty at times, the comp you know,
depending on you know, the situation if they need to
hold something down, because like we saw in Scrims today,
Walty one time ran up with How because he was
playing Seer and he wanted some scan. So it's him
and Walton kind of flexing to be aggressive where Guild

(10:17):
was holding a building for the hold their spot. But
then some other comps, you know, we'll see Guild be
the one that walks up with How either the clear
space or get loot or kind of you know where
the situation is. Again, I think unfortunately, it's a lot
more of just like the meta comp right now that
like the Crypto and the Newcastle are probably still going
to be what Walty's gonna play. But I do think

(10:38):
situationally we'll see a lot more of some interchanges maybe
between Waalty and Guild again, depending on what the situation is.
So I think that's what we're gonna hopefully see for
maybe Walty's sake to.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Yeah, he might get more opportunities, but like the tough
thing is, there's gonna be someone still sitting back a
little bit more because how's every time he I jails,
he's always like that front guy, And so you're not
gonna have all three at the front end right now
when I've been watching it, like for example, right now,
I literally have their screen open and Guild is on
Watson and you're Watson. Even though that is like an
anchor type player in many other different metas, when you're

(11:11):
playing like this, when you got like a Crypto, you're
Watson is actually your second guy to get in there
and to fight, like when when ssg one, for example,
you had Phony sitting for a good fifteen minutes in
his drone I yelling while you had Zaynu one Watson
and then coy On Bang running around and fighting people. Right,
So Watson seems like an anchor character there, but she's

(11:33):
actually your next most aggressive character. So yeah, that's yeah,
you'll get more opportunities, but still kind of like the
fall guy right now, it seems.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, which is unfortunate because, like you mentioned, like, I
feel like there's a lot of people who don't realize
who maybe if they were just watching Zero Stream or
house Stream, how good Waltzy is. Like I think I
feel like people forget like where he came from, him
why they wanted to bring him on this roster in
the first place. So I do think this opens it
up a little bit more, and it also just makes
it to where it's easier to open it up, because

(12:04):
before I felt like you were kind of hard stuck
in some of these specific roles based on the prowess
that Zero and Imperial how have. Now you can kind
of flop it around and move it where you see
fit based on whatever meta well like and.

Speaker 5 (12:18):
Walts, he was also often it seemed like he was
like the one to get blamed because how do I
say this, Like everyone obviously has to be like at
the top of their game, but the guy and like
anyone will tell you that, like the anchor role. A
lot of them will tell you, like that doesn't exist.
Like if two guys need to be up at the
other one anchors, like then that's what works. But yeah,
you're gonna have your character who's like more passive be

(12:39):
the anchor, and like it's easy. They're gonna tell you
just if you're the guy who's just sit and stare
at your back, it's the easier role. But it's also
the rule that like if you fuck up on like,
your team falls apart the fastest, right, So it seems like,
you know, Walt, he fuck's that up and next thing
you know, he's like the scapegoat of the current moment. Right,
So I think that like that happens with all teams.

(13:01):
There's always a guy who ends up being that. The
hope is that like now this team just feels a
little bit more fluid, like you said, and they can
like also if everyone went, they have like a breath
of fresh air just seem to roll off the start.
So we'll see some good things here I hope for
the beginning.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
I think an interesting too for a last note on
this is that obviously Champce is a little bit away,
and I would assume we'll probably have a potential one
more meta shift before then. So who knows, we might
get into a situation where, you know, hopefully Crypto might
it earthed potentially, you know, as something that could happen
over the next few months, and we do see more

(13:39):
of this trio will be able to fight together, so
that's also something to keep an eye on to potentially
down the line.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
I also wanted to clarify my thing on the blame
is is more so the like coming from viewers' perspectives,
because we're talking the reviewer's things bad like, not so
much from like like Zero or hal ever putting blame
on him, because I feel like that should happen in
the behind closed doors maybe they get over it, but
I'm talking from viewers perspective, scapegoating walls.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
And then we move into the second portion of this
entire mess, this love triangle that went down, this roster
triangle that went down, and that is Zero's new squad.
We have Zero pairing up with Sykes from teams Easy,
and then we have Funk coming back to Na So
Funk Zero and Psykes Donniema throw that down to you

(14:25):
this time with this squad here. What do you see
as the potential with this team for Zero's new squad
moving forward?

Speaker 4 (14:34):
Uh So. I was actually indeed Chad earlier as he
was getting ready to go for Scramson that the some
discussions are being had, and I think he definitely made
some good points. I think Funk as a player undoubtedly
is still very good at the game, Like he's somebody
that's very highly respected amongst a lot of people that
play Tier one comp. I think the best way to

(14:57):
describe this team is that they're ceiling. It could be huge,
but their floor could also be very low, not because
of skill, but just because of how will this team mesh.
That's gonna be the key. You know, can they you know,
come together? And yes, like all teams are always gonna
have some moments where you know they're they're fighting or
arguing or whatever, it's gonna happen, But like how quickly

(15:20):
do they move past that is gonna be ultimately the
question on game days at Land. Things like that On paper,
there's a lot to like. Obviously with Zero, there's no question.
With Psikes, everyone you know definitely agrees that he's one
of the best players in his role. And again, Funk
at his best. I mean all Falcons people talked about
from the first version of EWC what was basically Funk

(15:41):
was the reason why they didn't win. So there's a
lot to like on paper. But what do we see,
you know, in terms of like post game discussions, what
do we see when someone makes a mistake That's gonna
be the stuff that's going to ultimately decide what this
team is. And I think the key is in case
people don't know, is that Winnie at least as of now,
is staying as their coach. She was in there in

(16:01):
scrims earlier today, and I think she is gonna be
huge key. And I'm wondering if, from Zero's perspective, is
a big reason why he joined this team was because
of a coach like her as well, because she's only
done well with every stop she's been at. One of
her biggest keys that she's been really good at as
a coach has been conflict resolution. That's what a lot

(16:23):
of players have talked about, so if that is solved,
this is gonna be a team that's going to compete
for a land. It's definitely built that way.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Do you kind of see it the same way where
it's like very very high ceiling, but it could also
end in like a it could have a really tough
floor as well.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
Yeah, I would. Funk has had like a top three
and then he did. He was literally a game off
with Sichs and Sweet again out in Japan, like from winning,
like you know, like that top three was either them
or go next to take it away, Like you know,
they had such close moments in year four to win

(17:02):
a land. So you know, it's the same squad. It's
Sykes and Funk again with now zero And I mean,
you know we all know Sweet of course like is
one of the best igls to ever play this game.
But I think it's pretty hard to deny that just
results wise, that Zero hasn't been able to do the
things we couldn't get over that hump and close out lobbies, right,

(17:24):
So yeah, it's gonna be a crazy good It's just like,
you know, there are those times where we've also seen
these squads not even make finals. So like I agree
with everything Donning, you would say, I look at just
more so the results, just kind of calling them out
there and just for I guess.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
The extra.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Source of a reformation like on it.

Speaker 5 (17:44):
Like yeah, so I don't have really too much to
add other than we quite literally got Walter Guild and
then Sykes Funk, and we got some year four teams
feel like they returned with just different IDLs.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, which I mean that that gives you a lot
of room for excitement if you're a Zero fan in
you want to see him, you know, succeed with this roster.
I also think it's always better when you have a
guy on the squad you've already played with, and you
know Sykes has already played with Funk, Zero has already
played with Sykes, So it's like you have you pair
all these things together. There's gonna be some cohesion there
and you're gonna get some sort of translation, I think,

(18:18):
especially when you have a player and an igl like Zero,
So we're just gonna have to see what happens here,
and uh, you know, I think this is the best
result we could have got from both like this giant split,
because I think we have two really solid rosters moving forward.
Back in NA and we have that hatred back, and
obviously I'm talking about in game hatred, but we.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Have it back.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
It's gonna be a rivalry. It's gonna be fun, and
I can't wait to see it. These two people. If
you go listen to our last Waltz interview, he basically
all but said, like their rivalry is is insane. They
have they have a crazy rivalry even when they're on
the same team, So imagine it when they're not on
the same team.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
It's gonna be already.

Speaker 5 (18:58):
So like every time Zero's team dies in Screams today,
he has hell stream on the background.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
He just opens up and he's.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
Watching it, like clearly I'm in there for two minutes.
He dies, opens up, he goes, of course, these guys
just get gifted God's block because they land Light and
Rod like that's the first thing I hear. And then uh,
and then the Hal's in Zero's chat if everyone sees
Jayhawk tweeted out, stole that from our discord from type

(19:25):
shutout type but once it all, Jay tweeted this out
and uh, it's Hal and Zero sat chat saying nice
first block, better luck next time. And I don't even
know what the scores are for the block, but I'm
assuming that simply means that Hal finished ahead of him.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, they're just check. It's like checking your ex's Instagram story.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
Yeah that's okay, So then you just did you see
I said that in the disord. I said that we're
just the same wavelength. Yeah, I figured you might not
because you're at work. But like I literally said, truly
a break up like checking your ex's Instagram story every
day after you break up.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
That's what I said.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Me and Jump I have this inside joke where our
brain wavelength is literally the same. Listen on so many things,
we set.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
The same decks at the same time in a different group,
child Like, it just happens so often.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, no, it's uh so that's gonna be interesting. It's
gonna be an interesting thing. And I think this adds
a whole nother storyline, a whole nother layer. This is
what we want in a Pro League split where, let's
be honest here, there's not a whole lot of things
we can really bank on for entertainment other than just
the games themselves, right, because there's not too much riding
on on everything. There's just a few teams that really

(20:40):
have to perform and maybe get we get lucky and
get a team just coming out of nowhere and winning
the whole damn thing.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
That's really all we got.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
So now we have this this underlying story that we
can pay attention to and enjoy from afar because both
teams are going to be going at it back and forth.
It's funny that it translated to Scrims too, because you think,
like Scrims.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Is like a ever, but no, it's no competitive no
matter what.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Yeah, we know these two is the ultimate number one
competitors and APEX and I mean you got the you know,
this storyline between these two, we've got obviously what KCP
has been doing. You know, we've got DKK and Liquid
you've been bouncing back this week that will get into
you know, we've had VP's good start. I mean, an
I P and r OC the way they played coming
to this split. I mean, there's there's a lot to

(21:23):
like about this split, you know, even if it doesn't
you know, really produce too many big moments in terms
of like deciding champs stuff, But there's there's still a
lot to like in terms of storylines.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Now I feel like we gotta I feel like we
gotta have like either a moment of silence or something
for a boy. Zach Maser man, Yeah yeah, I mean,
I mean this sucks, man.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
How many? How many?

Speaker 1 (21:50):
How many times have I said this season, I'm just
excited to watch Zach Maser from Afar because you don't
know what you're gonna get.

Speaker 5 (21:55):
I think when you just stop gassing up Zach, maybe
time bring back. He went from like first to sixteenth,
and then this time we gasped up Zach and I
made the same points I did last time too. He
does have a team now went from second to no squad.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
To be fair, I listened to his reasoning.

Speaker 5 (22:16):
He said that like, he won't join a team unless
he has a good chance of winning because he's doing
so good.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
I R so shut up my boys up.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Okay, you don't need a moment in silence? Then yeah,
he's up. Well, I do feel terrible.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
He could also be doing the ex ex boyfriend ex
girlfriend thing. We're just like, yeah, I'm honestly better now,
Like this is actually.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Sh Yeah he actually did the break up emotions.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
It could be Yeah, he actually had a really good
extreame explaining a lot of stuff I would see. You
guys can go watch that on your own time. But yeah,
I think it was about as as good as he
at least could have handled it, you know, on stream.
You know, he definitely explained a lot of kind of
the reasons and what was going on with it. But
he even meant, you know, it's it's kind of like
how you know, Sykes got replaced by how like when

(23:03):
you have one of the two best players in the world,
you know, and they're coming for your spot, it's unfortunate.
You're really not going to have much of a lake
to stand out unfortunately. So uh yeah, definitely, uh, you know,
glad to hear he's at least doing well in life.
That's always more important than anything at the end of
the day. But hold up, it'd be great to have him.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
And have him play.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Does Chaotic have a team right now?

Speaker 2 (23:26):
No, I don't think.

Speaker 5 (23:28):
Chaotic Design don't have a team. Bro we bring back
that o GB.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
People laughed at me.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Where you can coach them b B B.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
We need ball bit Britton Browns, we need them back.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Chaotic actually not competing right now. I'm like, no, not, God, dude,
it's right there.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
The question is is how many champs points just Chaotic
and Zach have can they can they get themselves at
a japan spot?

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Just do it?

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Can you guys look that up?

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Probably not?

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Probably not not in the time that they would take
for this podcast.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yeah, I shut up real quick. Chaotics got to eighty.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
Uh, it's not Zach's only got seven ten, it's not
even a thousands.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
And what if they just elsie Q they need uh?

Speaker 5 (24:27):
They who can they snag as a sub joint join Timmy?
Be like Timmy, you got to do a song? No,
but because like they don't need Timmy's points anymore with
zero joining, Oh no, they do need Tommy.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Does not have enough points? Ship damn shah, damn.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, this man.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
They keep throwing it out there, Just keep throwing it
out there till it happens.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
T BBB bringing up, I'll.

Speaker 5 (24:51):
DM, I'll DM design to see if you can get
to work.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
I need I need Zach Major in the league, man,
I need Zach Major in the league.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
I need it.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
I need it like I need air breathe. I need
to see Zach Maser in the league.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
There's some other roster news today too. I don't know
if you saw that.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Why did you see the Kimchi news.

Speaker 5 (25:11):
So yeah, there's the kimchi news. Kimchi is not a
part of thuggets anymore. And then there's also straving Flame
is not part of a codsia.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
And those news happened to happen pretty close to each other.
You know, nothing's official at least as of this time.
But you know, put one in one and one together,
we might have might have too, So we'll have to
see what what that ultimately brings.

Speaker 5 (25:39):
So absolutely crazy, but that's and eighty points up there
for grabs. Maybe maybe streaming them comes to n A
and teams of a Zach, Now we got.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
A team with two thousand boys.

Speaker 5 (25:52):
Thoughts you never know, I don't know this sports working together?

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, how does that work?

Speaker 1 (26:01):
On?

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Real quick?

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Like?

Speaker 5 (26:03):
Can can if three guys who have like like, can
three guys who are currently not in a pro league
spot come together make a team and if they have
enough champs spots just kick someone out like if Zach
who doesn't have a team, and then uh, strafing Flame
if because we have no idea where he's going. I'm
just giving an example. Actually, all three of them, like
I have, I guess we have no idea where they're

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going because I was just when I brought this up,
I was thinking of was Strathen Clayton the whole time.
But I'm just thinking to all the eighty points there,
then Zach seven ten points there, if a third person
who has like a thousand points, if those three come
together and have like three k points and qualify for Champs,
could they just make a team and kick a team out?

Speaker 4 (26:38):
I mean without looking at the rule book. Theoretically yes,
I mean because the Champs points aren't reagion dependent, so
like if you have enough points to put it together,
I don't see why that wouldn't work. Like I said,
they just would have no practice because they're not in
pro league, but for.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Sure, for sure.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
But I mean like if it's Champs, no Champs, I
feel like just going Champs.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Yeah right.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
See.

Speaker 5 (27:03):
The funny thing to me was like zero pretty much
like could have picked up two players with no Champs
points and almost basically kicked people to a Champ spot.
The cutoff at twenty at thirty second is a thy
eight points. Zero has like twenty one hundred on his own,
so like he would have got a spot just if
he wanted to go Sol.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
Yeah, honestly, Yeah, thankfully in this situation. You know, he
was already torn up with teams and stuff that would
have had enough. But imagine like the chaos if he
had just done something like that. Like it's it's an
interesting one to say the least.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
But I was thinking, actually, at the player scores, I
don't know what the team score cut off is. Thirty
second is actually it's fourteen hundred. Still he could beat
him out anyways.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah, but uh, nonetheless, that is the those are the
final rosters. That's what's gonna happen for the rest of
this split, and it's gonna be fun to see the
fireworks that pop off from this.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Boys.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
We did have two blocks of Pro League that went
down today and are not today this weekend.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
I didn't eOne even really care what happened in the block.
So I about the story.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
I think a lot of that about.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
The story this team, well on this team didn't Yeah,
I mean.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
The podcast, Yeah, I guess the the real storyline was
how is Falcons gonna round out their round out their tenure.
Now we're gonna go through both ones real quick here.
The first one, DKK was your winner. We finally got
to see the DKK we've been looking for. Here, they
get first place, second place team Liquid zoned Spammers and
third our boy Birk's team, and then Ninja's and Pajamas

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and fourth. Falcons got seventh on that day, and then
the second scrim block it was Shopify in first by
a significant margin. Sorry not scrim block Pro League block.
Second place was Falcons, so they rounded it out with
the second place. That's good, uh, fourteen k behind them,
and then TSM in fourth place. But those were the

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two days and then we're.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Really quickly thrown out there.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
The second day, zz Zero's new team finished twentieth.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah, I feel like the wall there.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Falcons go get second.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
Well, they get twentieth, and they were second in pro
League going into that day.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
I think they still are.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
Yeah, they're still in second in Pro League despite I
get think getting a zero. I think it's zero points
for finishing in twentieth, but they do have an extra
game day played now, so they have four, whereas like
shop Fight and third they're two points behind, but they
only have three game days played. So yeah, a little
bit of a rough rough set for zero there.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
I will say.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
The other funny thing was is, remember we talked about
like zero going for the four peat and then everyone's like, well,
that's not happening because they're now in twentieth.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
This man just randomly found himself on the second place
team in Pro League. It's still on the table.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
It's still there.

Speaker 5 (29:57):
Falcons are in fourth though, like but again because of
the four game days played, so they're probably gonna drop
down a bit now, but it's still there.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
I think there's a potential that they could win.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, we don't have to go through all the days
and like individualize them. We can just kind of talk
about it as a whole. But down from our perspective
from when we watched on Saturday and a little bit
more on Sunday as well. There were some teams that
were on the bubble. We mentioned them last week, and
one of the big ones was DKK. They needed to
have a performance and they get first place on that

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on that first a team Liquid get second.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Those were two of those teams that.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Are really down there below at those champ At that
Champs points cut off, they needed to have a good day.
They bounced back in a big way and we needed
to see that. And then on the next day, I
believe TSM gets fourth.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
So a lot of.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Our teams who needed to have big days finally pulled
through and they had some good ones. What did you think?

Speaker 4 (30:48):
Oh yeah, I mean I think my main focus would
be on DKK. I mean, I think there was a
lot of discourse about, you know, like has you know
it's this team going to be able to figure things out.
You know, Keana had been and had a lot of
his frustrations with the meta and things like that. You know,
people are questioning dropped as the IGL. Just a lot
of people kind of thrown out a lot of things
that I don't really think they were taken into context

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all the changes that were happening. They weren't the only
big name team that was struggling, And I think this
finally showed like what the potential for the squad is.
If I really want to isolate that last game, which
I know I had a big thing on stream when
I talked about it doing the watch parties, is the
way that they really commanded that last three B three
B three I think shows how just well rounded this

(31:34):
team is, how experienced this team is, and what the
ceiling ultimately is going to be for this team. I
still think this is a team that in the right
situation can compete to win a land. Obviously, I think
their upside isn't comparative to obviously like some of the
you know, the Alliances, the Falcons, things like that. But again,
on the right day at a land, if things fall

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into place, they're a team that you have to consider
potentially winning for land. You know, you've got Dropped, who's
been plenty of top tens. You've got Keon and Knock
who both have great results at a few lands as well.
I think Dropped is like a top like five I
think of when I looked up the list of like
most top tens of people that haven't won a land,

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So all the ingredients are there for that team. I
was just really excited to see that. Obviously, this podcast
might have been disappointing because they didn't fit get fifth
or sixth or seventh, but well, it was great to
see them pop off and get the win.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
Well, I'd actually say though, so like they got a
game day in hand.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
They want to pay three game days.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
They're currently sitting in eleventh, so another good game day
and that's looking like a fifth, sixth or seventh. We're
still on overall leader board position for the boy dropped.
That's that's what I'm kind of seeing here right now. Yeah,
you know, so we can rely on drop to get
us fifth or sixth.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Probably.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
What I would quickly say about squad and is the
thing that I keep hearing. I have not watched them
close enough to make this an educated opinion, but I
will say this is something that people have been talking
about when he was with all gamers and everything like
that too, is everyone's just kind of saying, you know,
when you hear in other sports hockey, you got to
play a full sixty soccer, you got to play a

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full nine ninety, right, everything like that. These guys got
to play a full six games. They It seems that
what everyone's talking about is dropt as a tendency to
start off hot, win the first two games or some
shit like that, and then fall off at the end.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
It happened at EWC.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
He won the first game, had another good second game,
I think they went first, second or something like that,
and then the eight games later did so bad they
didn't qualify for finals. It happened in both groups, So
that's the big thing people are saying.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah, I think we even mentioned that last Pro League split,
the same thing would happen. It's like you'd have a first,
good first game, and then it was just like you
gather three or four points the rest of the five
and then you find yourself in like fifth, sixth, or
seventh when you could have easily made that you know,
a first or second.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Yeah, absolutely, which they did do.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
Like you know, people were saying it again because they
started off hot.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
They let's see, they quickly they won or second place,
then one.

Speaker 5 (34:11):
Then they had like a twelfth, and then a four
in game four or twelfth, and then game five they
had a ninth. Soone was like, what the hell's happening,
Like they're not gonna do well, and then they dropped
a banger in the last game and yeah, twenty four
points and won it.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
So it's like you just want to see them finish,
you know, go go all the way through with the
decent performance from start to finish.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Is really what you're looking for now.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
My pick to win the entire Pro League Shopify rebellion
on the second day, absolutely explode, they bounce back, they
break the curse.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
It's not even real.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
The curse is fake, and I do want to highlight
Koyful because Apex Legends Esports highlighted him. He had twenty
seven kills, forty two knocks, and he had eleven seven
and twenty seven damage in just six games played. Absolutely insane.
He was average sing four and a half kills a game,
which I really wish I was. I was on prize

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picks that day. I really wish I would have been
paying attention to the prize picks. Fortunately I was not. Actually,
if I would have, if I would have placed a
wager down, probably would have chocked it.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
It probably would probably would have went the other way.
But no.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Shopify five finally starting to get into the mode that
we kind of expected to see them in.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
Yeah, I uh.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
I always loved seeing something like a player dropping four
and a half kills per.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Game in in Pro league. And then I struggled to
drop like one or two in round.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
I struggled to drop one or two in wild cards.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Sometimes I was getting bodied by this one guy yesterday.
It was so frustrating. I just kept landing on him.
I was like, I gotta beat him once. Didn't do it,
just just didn't do it.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
I was struggling one or two kills in DMR this week, so.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
I was one.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
I was all yeah, everyone to hear why I pitch
about the peak again.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Is bizarre, exactly.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
Insane, I think why I look thirty quickly. I believe
it's a top five kill output in the world so
far this split. Obviously number one I still believe is
Kackagory out of Apack and Earth when he had the
thirty one kills. But I live Koyful should fall somewhere
in the top five, so definitely a very special performance
this weekend koifol.

Speaker 5 (36:26):
Let's see how many teams koif had more kills than
alone the entire lobby except for fourteen.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
K fourteen K and TSM but tsm oh sorry I missed.
So it's basically the.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Same now in the Americas region after these two days,
when you look at the overall standings, KCP is still
up top. They're at fifty seven points. Right behind them
is now zero squad zz uh. We have Shopifi Rebellion
and third Falcons and fourth, Unreal Nightmare in fifth and
Vertus pro to round out the top five. But some

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notable teams that are pretty close oblivion Monsoon's New Squad
with Fun they're right there at seventh, Luminosity with Nadia's
igl they're sitting there in eighth, and then TSM, who
really started off shit, they had four points and nine
points in the first two days. They've bounced back big
time and they're sitting within that top ten, sitting at
ninth there. So some surprises as as we move forward,

(37:24):
and then DKK with that first place finish, moves all
the way up to the eleventh place. The surprising one
here is one hundred thieves kind of sitting at fifteenth,
kind of unexpected. But they did have, you know, the
the twenty one points a few in one of those
in one of those days. But that's the overall roster
as it stands right now.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
Just didn't have Jim Burton for such a long time. Yeah, right,
Like I think he's finally back, finally got his visa sorted.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
Out, and yeah, yep, he'll be back for since we
got partly this weekend, he'll be back next weekend once
we're back rolling again.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
And then some other ones Sentinels and ROC down there
in the low twenties as well. I said low twenties.
I just met twenties Sentinels at twenty first. ROC at
twenty three. So some teams that are I think pretty
much destined already to make it to Japan struggling out
the gate, which I don't really put too much stock
in because you're already going.

Speaker 5 (38:21):
If I can quickly throw out about the EMBA region
last split Alliance just after Japan and everything like that,
where they had their best performance came out and they
finished like fourth in their first set and then sixth
in their second set, which for Alliance, everyone's like, oh God,
they're washed, they suck. And then they go to the

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open and they almost win that shit in three games,
almost win that shit in four games, they unfortunately lose
to come second, and then it was kind of like
they remembered they were the best.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Team in especially a MIA.

Speaker 5 (38:55):
I'll even go as far as saying I think they
were still up there as the best team in the
world at that time, and they won three days back
to back to back and then proceeded to go get
second on the last day before the regional final this split,
similar thing kind of happened we I think I remember
saying something about like them starting rough.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
There's a lot of people talking about the.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
Lions looking really shit because like they got fifth, but
their first three games they dropped four points, and Servin's like,
what the heck's going on with the Lions?

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Is Allions? Asked again.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
Yeah, they've won two out of their last three days
and got second on the other day, Like Allions is
looking like the best team again.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Like they just remembered.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
I feel like those guys forget every once in a
while and then just like remember and then just do
their stuff.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
I think I think that the Edge meta being so
weird kind of like was a little bit of a
culture shock for them. Hacks even tweeted about it, and
once they just corrected that they're rolling.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
They're rolling.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
Maybe I said imperial how was better than effect.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Maybe that's because and people got upset.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Now, the one thing I think we could talk about
as a whole and as a group moving forward in
the re of this Pro league split is the metas
it's gonna get.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
It's gonna shake up a little bit here.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
We have a pretty big buff to Sear, a pretty
big buff to Maggie and Jumba. I know a few
weeks ago you had mentioned that with the meta and
how it's shaking out right now, it's been difficult for
a lot of players and teams to kind of adjust
to how some of these games are ending, and not
just legends, is also the weapons and and they there

(40:25):
have been adjustments to those as well.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
With Sear back in this meta with.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
What he is able to do, I would is it go,
Are we still in the same spot or do you
think it's gonna it's gonna change a little bit.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
I think the guns, the TTK and the lack of
EVOS is what affected it more than the characters. Really,
I don't know if like, yeah, I don't know how
much Shear is gonna mix it up other than just
bringing back Like so I talked to you about this
with privacy once. My biggest problems with Crypto which I
never bitched about, Like Sear had its problem and people said, like,

(41:00):
you know, you can see through walls and all this stuff,
but it was not like to the level that I complained.
The mide a whole video about Crypto was because Crypto
does all your macro knowledge, like it basically makes it
that like you don't have to plan anything out because
you could just get all that information, which Sear does
give you a lot of info, but it's more micro

(41:21):
fighting type stuff like in the moment reactive.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
So it may it will make fights a little bit.

Speaker 5 (41:26):
Less, how I say, I guess not not riveting, but
like like you don't have to like be as creative
because you could just see where people are running around and
everything like that. But if there's no crypto and people
are playing seer, you will have to see like igls
pull out a lot more of that creative knowledge again.

(41:47):
But like, yeah, I don't think it's gonna really change
all that much.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
I think that the.

Speaker 5 (41:50):
Effects of what we were talking before was that evos
were so few and far between. I think they added
like one or two throughout the map, and they made
it now that they'll be spread out more even lee
so that this way one POY is not getting like two.
So that's happening now, so that might help these teams
get blue armor faster and easier. And then the other
problem was the long range metal which the the freaking

(42:14):
thirty thirty bare barely got nerved.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
But it does take long.

Speaker 5 (42:18):
No, it still takes the same amount of time to
get the sculptures certain in ALGs, so that's there, But
the thirty or the G seven now his accelerator. So
I think we're just gonna see way more G seven
So we're still in a long range POKEMONA and then
the charge rifle is still fucking dummy stupid, Like so yeah,
that's there.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
So I don't think we're losing that.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
I think we're still getting.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
The dum dummy stupid.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
I I expect that.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
I know it is you get too much, I know,
And I was like, he needs to get away from that.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
Just like but like it is, I want to explain
one ninety eight from freaking or like even one forty eight.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Bro, Like that ship's dumb and stupid, dumb stupid.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
Dummy stupid and that's all we got.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
I like, what more? What more?

Speaker 5 (43:08):
Like if I say the charger was dummy stupid, everyone
I bet is like nodding their head. What riveting analysis
do you need me to say about? Like done just
being some hot bullshit.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
I actually think it is good analysis. I just when
you said that, I was like, we gotta get Kyle,
Like I always said, we've got to get Kyle outside,
like he's been in Discord too much, he's been hanging
out too much inside the Discord. But yeah, I just
wanted to know what you guys thought about that? And
don do you think do you think that the heartbeat

(43:38):
censor with Seer reaches a point where, especially late in zone,
it kind of loses his luster when there's literally so
many pings on the heartbeat when everybody's just right next
to each other.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Or am I just dumb and a low level player?

Speaker 4 (43:54):
No, I mean it's definitely possible. I mean, I think
the biggest thing of what these changes like Seer is
going to do is is I think what we're ultimately
going to see is when does Newcastle get banned? Because
I think that's gonna set a lot of the tone
for how these character picks are going to be. I
still feel like we're gonna see a lot more like
you know, Costics Good. I think continue Good to be

(44:15):
the game one band. And the big wrinkle that we
had during the weekend for the Americas Proleague is that
Newcastle actually went out second because so many people start
picking it up. And I think with the changes we
saw to see here, changes we saw to to Maggie,
I think we might lose Gibbie a little bit just
because of how you know, Gimbe Bubble is almost just
target now. Essentially for Maggie and Maggie Ball. So we'll

(44:38):
have to see how Gibbey's pick rate plays out this year. Yeah,
to answer your question directly, this year heartbeat thing, Yeah,
like when there's just so many people, like in a
very small area and you just know where all teams
are basically at like a heartbeat, since it really is
going to do what you think, cause you're just gonna
see all these people moving around and stuff anyway, But
I could see like sear still being yeah, utilize you

(45:01):
know in games like maybe three, four, five, when we
see a lot less of like kind of the lockdown
meta if we get like an early Newcastle band and
things like that, but when we have like those other
characters like the Newcastle that are in, it's kind of
hard to like also have you know, like a Seer
or something like that. I still think we'll kind of
see like the same thing to start with. It just
might be those games like four or five and six

(45:22):
that we might see some changes with the recent update.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (45:25):
I tend to disagree little, but I think the hartby
centsor in the late game end zone, especially if they're
like eight teams, is actually crazy because like so like
you're thinking about it as in like you're seeing all
those arrows and you're going to track them.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
But like if you're scanning.

Speaker 5 (45:39):
A one to eighty radius and you can just turn
and be like, okay, team directly to my left, Okay,
team directly right here? Okay team right there, Like if
you can figure that out, and then like if you
don't know where they are one hundred percent or like
maybe it seems like you're picking up two teams, but
like everyone's stationary, right. Like the hard thing about seer
tack when you're playing in ranked is that, like you're

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usually moving around a lot that you might not be
able to hit it. These people are sitting in their
individual spots. You can just hit and see and now
get information befar what shield.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Are they on? The on blues? Are they on purpose?
Without having to shoot them?

Speaker 5 (46:12):
You now know this, and so you know, okay, if
we need to fight, we fight right that's on blues
or left that's on purps.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
We go right.

Speaker 5 (46:18):
If you I think you get a ton of value
like this year attack and everything like that.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
What I was thinking about too, is like that old
there's that one when you throw down your old there's
an ability where you can get your tack back like
extremely quick. Yeah, I think you can hit it six
or seven times inside the sure Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
I guess.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
My point was it loses more of it's lesser compared
to like the like the Ultimate and the Tactical, because
at that point you can just start tossing it out there.
You're getting speed boost, You're you're hitting them. However many
times you're getting two point five seconds silence on them
and stuff, so get air you can.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
I think is terrible.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
It's terrible. It's so bad.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
No, I don't think so, but I think it's horrendous.

Speaker 5 (47:01):
I think the Seer would be way stronger if they
got rid of that shit, given the double jump, just
get rid of the fucking yeah, the stupid hover thing.
But like you can't hit those scans or anything like
that without the art cent. So that's why I think
the Harpy cents is valuable. The thing is is like
I just don't think people are gonna be playing Seer
all that much. That's what I Yeah, Like if you
have crypto, you just fly crypto around and you could

(47:23):
scan way more beacons and get way more knowledge and
then you could just sit your crypto drone in the
sky and see more. Now seer makes it that like
I guess you could be a little bit more versatile
and fights like a crypto.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
He's not gonna be engaged there though.

Speaker 5 (47:34):
His alt is fucking insane if you hit a good
alt and have two players run in.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
So there's that.

Speaker 5 (47:38):
There also is like I have to see I've only
watched a little Bitscrimsday, and I mean, right now, I'm
just seeing cryptos I'm not seeing but he's not getting banned,
Like they're into late games and he's still not banned.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
But uh, Sparrow, I think still is a little bit
more effective because.

Speaker 5 (47:53):
You can hit the beacons from far where a seer
has to run up to them.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
The only thing that is spare result now.

Speaker 5 (47:59):
So so I just want to see, like how much they,
in my opinion, sucks. I wonder how much it affects
the pro players and how they use it.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
Yeah, I think it'll just depend on how people want
to play too, because like I know, just even hearing
Kyle talk about it from a drogger from Falcons, he
was mentioning, you know, like it just kind of depends
on how you want to play like, you know, if
you cause you mentioned, you know, hey, let's get all
three of you together and fight. So they are like
practicing and trying to run here, it seemed like they're

(48:27):
still leading towards Crypto for right now, just based on
kind of what was working. I mean, I've seen SR
so far has been playing a lot of Sear instead
of the Crypto, and they seem to be more of like,
we want all three of us kind of together in
fights at all times. So yeah, a lot of it's
just gonna be very dependent. But I do think like
it's very hard to pass up having the drone to
you know, grow grapeecon information, to get like the instant

(48:50):
res is, to you know, have the drone flying around
gathering and vote at all times when you're stationary. It's
there's just a lot of things I think Crypto's still
going to provide that can't necessarily do.

Speaker 5 (49:01):
Yeah, I really think the band system should be changed
to cumulative picks rather than whoever is the most. And
I say that again because like controller legends are just
getting banned the most constantly.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Yeah, so like they're on CAT right now.

Speaker 5 (49:13):
I'm sure that means Watson costs of been banned, like
you know, like whereas like I'm seeing cryptos, I'm seeing
some sears, I'm seeing some teams not even have a
recon legend, yeah, like whereas like realistically I feel like
at this point Crypto shop.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Band mm hmm, yeah, so interesting stuff there.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
I just wanted to pick your guys's brain on what
you guys felt like was gonna happen with this meta
moving forward. But you know, Crypto's still here. You know
he's still here, So that that is what it is.
All right, Well, ladies and gents, that should just about
doing it. For the opening part of the show. We're
gonna take a quick break and then me and Donn
are going to break down the regional recap, and then
right after that we're gonna send it on down to

(49:50):
the heart to heart and send you guys on the
rest of your week. Let's get it, okay, regional recap time.
We already went through the Americas. Now me and Donn
are going to hit up all the other the regions
and let's kick it off with E M E A down.
Let's let's go through both of these, both of these
blocks here on this day. What'd you see from the
first one. Saturday.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
Yeah, so Saturday we had basically a competition between Roadhouse
and Alliance, which Roadhouse for those people don't know, it's
the roster of Blasts, Lufka and AC and yeah, really again,
there was just a back and forth between the two
teams the entire day. Roadhouse ends up being our victor,

(50:34):
just by a couple of points there at the end.
But yeah, just really two very solid performances from both rosters.
I think we finally saw the version of Roadhouse that
they can be. I think they're gonna be a team
that definitely is very formidable. And one thing I was
kind of mentioning throughout the streams over the weekend doing
watch parties and stuff is we're still kind of waiting

(50:54):
for who is that consistent team behind Alliance in the region,
And honestly, really who is you know, second, third, fourth, fifth,
And I think Roadhouse definitely put in their case for
potentially being that second team. They looked really good, definitely
no denying how well they played. And it's just really
exciting to see because we get to see the duo

(51:16):
Blasted Luka, you know, working together again with how well
they played on gaming Gladiators when they were at their peak,
and Aku was just a really fun player to watch
as a fragger. He's picking up a lot of great
KP numbers. He had fifteen kills on the day, which
again I believe is another like double digital performance. He's
already stacked up on some other days that he already had,
so he's looked really good and the rosters looked really good,

(51:38):
and a lot of exciting stuff there. Again, Alliance just
doing their thing, pretty usual and really nothing to even
have to really go into there. Yeah. Really the other
notable was just you know, we see seven getting the
fourth place there, but yeah, we'll have to go into
O seven here after we talk about the second block.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Yeah, so then we move into the second block, Alliance
is the one who takes that. One right behind them
is go next, Endorse in third and ful in fourth.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
Yeah. Just again, another classic performance by Alliance. You know,
obviously Chimbo kind of mentioned them during our main segment
of this podcast, but I mean, yeah, effect with seventeen kills,
I'm lucky with twelve again. Just really we're leading, helping
lead from the front, you know, getting the second place
in game one, they got a second place in game

(52:27):
two and then one game four and got second in
game six as well. So when you're getting that many
top twos, I mean, it's almost impossible to not win
the day unless the other two games are that bad.
And yeah, I mean they're just in full form, looking
really good. I think the main story I take away
from this block is Go Next. I think, along with Roadhouse,

(52:48):
you know, really put on a really good case and
I think if you look over the entire split, go
Nex probably is the second best team right now, and
to Mia, with the addition of Light, they've looked really good.
It finally seems like, for now, you know, the duo
of Kinda and Henchman have maybe found their igl that
fits this roster. Just a lot of really good things,

(53:09):
like I mean, Light leading from the front, Footy at
thirteen kills with seventy five hundred damage, which is a
very good stat line for the guy that's igling because obviously,
and it usually kind of have like a fragrant. Nowadays
it has a little bit more of the stats. But overall,
they looked really good. And I mean again, they had
a game two win, they follow that up with a

(53:30):
Game three win and just overall just looked really, really solid,
and uh yeah, we'll get into the standing center second,
but I mean they're right there with the Lions right now.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Yeah, as we move into the standings here and we
look at the top of EMEA Alliance obviously Number one
go next right behind them, but there's a pretty significant gap.
And then after that you got env m I Roadhouse
at fourth, and then O seven and u AIM tied
for fifth. So that pretty much rounds out the EMEA section.
Something notable NAVI sitting down there at seventeenth, and that's

(54:05):
a team that you know, has just struggled throughout most
of this split so far.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
And then you have Phase.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Who at the end of last split, we we talked
about how they were starting to come back on a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
They started off horrifically.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
I think they got zero points and two points or
something like that to start off. Yeah, to start off
the split, they're sitting at seventh and they've had decent days.
They've also had one that was pretty bad, but they've
they've kind of like leveled out here, so they're tied
for seventh right there. Just something to keep an eye
on in that EMEA region. Dog Let's move on into show.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
I did want to say real quick, one big storyline
coming from the region was seventh did make a roster change.
Adam zz is out as their third and they actually
pick up Tyler FBS. The big thing with going on
with Tyler is that he was actually banned on Twitch,
and so his roster choices at first are pretty limited

(54:59):
because there's obviously a lot of players that do stream
on Twitch and you can't have somebody you know on
the stream that's banned. But it sounds like we might
see Nasky and kasher A potentially move over to Kick
to allow Tyler to play with them. I mean, I
assume that's what's gonna happen since he's joined the roster,
but there's a lot to potentially like with that roster. Again,

(55:19):
I thought Adam was playing pretty well. They obviously kind
of had a rough suck at Block so kind of
changed things up for that team. But Tyler, I mean,
we saw, you know, when he subbed in with Alliance
he looks really good at that land. So I'll be
keeping an eye on how that roster with O seven
here looks. You know, it doesn't make the difference for
them to kind of move up into a better spot

(55:40):
in the EMBA. But that's definitely a big storyline I
wanted to mention before we moved on.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Yeah, all right, so now let's move on into a
Pac North. The first day Saturday, Dasukhoy Impact, Did I
say that right?

Speaker 4 (55:55):
Yeah? That was that was actually right. So shout out
to my boy Phantom, who was in both of my
Apac Norse streams when I was watching. He knows ball
about a Pack North. It's actually crazy. And just shout
out to all the people that were there, because apparently
I was one of the few people that really was
streaming that was outside of the region to watch party.

(56:16):
So yeah, t Sukhoy Impact. I was learning so many
pronunciations of things I was saying wrong the entire weekend,
So shout out to that guy. So I just looked
less stupid as I watched them.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Yeah, but we love not being stupid. Absolutely so sick.
It's so sick.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
It's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
So Dasukhoy Impact with the win. They won it by
literally one point sixty nine points. In second place, Reignite
had sixty eight, and then in third we had lass
In and in fourth we had New be just outside
of that, we had enter Force thirty six and so ten,
who has been surprising people throughout most of this split,
they were down there at six, don what did you see?

Speaker 4 (56:54):
Yeah, so Di, I was definitely a very fun surprise.
They you know, didn't like have a crazy bag or
start to the set by any means. I mean the
first game they literally got nineteenth with no points, and
then just slowly throughout the day you just kind of
saw them working their way up the leader board. It's
a team that, at least from minor standing, is definitely
a little bit on the newer side of things, and

(57:16):
it just at least when it comes to like pro
league experience. But yeah, they really just started working their
way up the leader board. You know, they had a
very solid game two, but they got fourth. They then
kind of fill off in the third game, but then
really on Storm points really saw them kicking into gear.
They got a first place in game four, they got
second place in game five, and they won game six.
So I mean they literally got of their points. They

(57:39):
got what is that math that is fifty seven points
I believe of their sixty nine were Auburn stormpoint and
you go first, second, first, in the set and maybe
looked absolutely fantastic. They were running a Wraith Newcastle Watson
comp At one point they started mixing in the Gibbean
ramp parts. Wraith really just seems to be a good

(57:59):
character for them. Chico was the one that was on
the race. But yeah, overall was a really fun surprise
to see they looked really good. Reigi knighte who's been
a fun story with this split so far. They did
very well to secure second, even though they definitely felt
like they should have got first. But then yeah, it

(58:19):
was just overall really fun set to kind of CD.
I'd make that comeback.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Towards the end, and then we move on into Sunday
here Unlimit was your winner, Meteor in second, Tie in third,
and then E thirty six in fourth.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
Yeah, so for Unlimit, we obviously knew them from last
split when we were kind of talking about lari Man
and how good he was. They had picked up this
man named Peace who would played on Tie's roster last split,
and holy does this man absolutely fry. He's had more
kills than the Laria Man a couple matchdays in a

(58:56):
row now, which again lari Man was literally one of
the top you know, I think he might have been
the kill leader in the world. A last split piece
had twenty two kills in this particular set, Lari Mantoo's
credit had with that twelve eight hundred damage. I literally
had to check that Clint believe that was an amount
of damage he put up. I mean, he's literally averaging

(59:16):
over a two K and six games, which is literally
at the professional level. Is ridiculous to say the least.
But if this is the unlimit we're going to see
where they just are absolutely nuking lobbies, that's gonna be
a team where I have to keep an eye on
as we're moving forward, because if there's one thing we've
seen when we get to these lands is when we
get these A Pac North teams that really know, like
are not afraid to take fights. We've seen, you know,

(59:39):
teams like the TSM Roster really get pushed to the
limit in some of these contests. I know we don't
have contests right now, but when people are rotating for
evos early on, you run into these kind of altercations
when you're trying to get the same resources of O
their teams. You don't want to run into unlimit right now.
Because they will absolutely take that three B three every
single time. And A and when you've got Lari Avanda,

(01:00:01):
you've got piece playing as well as they are as
a duo. That is a team that you do not
want to run into, whether you're in the region or
in any of our teams in the Americas or wherever
you're from. So a big shout out to them. And
again I think this is a big shout out as
we get over into the standings to E thirty six
as they've been by far the most consistent team. I
don't think they've finished outside the top five at any

(01:00:22):
of their matchdays so far. I mean they just again
I think when we're kind of starving for who that
number one team is right now in Apac North, I
think E thirty six has definitely put their foot out there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
And speaking of E thirty six, as we move into
the overall standings, E thirty six is your number one
team by a significant margin seventy seven points. Second place
is at sixty and that would be so ten unlimit
and third, Dory in fourth and lost in in fifth
something notable. Fanatic has dropped down to ninth and reminder
that they did start off the season pretty well, but

(01:00:55):
they have lost it a little bit there, so sitting
they're sitting down there at ninth. We know that the
ability they have to bring it back, but currently fanatic
sitting in ninth. As we move into the latter portions
of this pro league split now down, we got to
move into Apax South and this is the this is
the region of fun. In my opinion, the every time

(01:01:16):
Apac South has something go down, it's interesting, it's fun
to watch, and the way that they play is absolutely diabolical.
Let's kick it off with Saturday. And as we moved
into Saturday here in Apac South, Wolves Esports they're back.
They get first place and it was not close at all.
They had eighty nine points compared to second place fifty five.

(01:01:38):
That was five fears Jenji sitting there and then bear
Claw gaming at fourth. What did you see from that
first Saturday of APAX South.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
I mean, I would just say that when you have
five or to six games, when you finish in the
top three, I think it's gonna be a good day.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Yeah, I think good.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
I think if you have like the chalkboarding, know or
like the dry erase board, when you're kind of making
up your game plan for the day, you just right
get top three every time. I think that's gonna be
pretty good. I'm not an expert, but I think that's
to be pretty good. But in all seriousness though, Wolves again,
I mean just one of the teams that we've seen
kind of rise up from this region here in the
recent months, along with the likes of like G and

(01:02:18):
obviously VK with them winning the NWC. But yeah, Wolves
just look great again. That's the roster of No Name,
Donut and Crazy Kong No Name with nineteen kills on
the match day, Donut with sixteen. Again, just one of
those teams that's really has stepped up. Especially with VK
obviously not having QQ this split. You know, we're kind
of wondering who might be number one between you know, Wolves,

(01:02:41):
maybe throwing five years in there, who was rival e
Sports last split. Wolves has definitely staked their claim at
least on this day that yeah, they're ready to kind
of take up the mantle at least for this split
with VK not being at full force. But yeah, they
look good. That they were just dominant, whether it was
kills when anything like that, they just looked really good.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Overall, and then moving on into Sunday here, bar claud
Gaming they get the first place by one point. JD
Gaming right behind them, boogie Boarders and third, and dream
Fire in fourth. Wolves still had a good day though,
they get sixth overall. Some notable ones Wolves Saul and
bk all six seventh and eighth respectively. Al Kadzio we

(01:03:23):
talked about them earlier in the main part. They were
down there at tenth and they have made a roster
move and we'll see what happens from that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
But Donnie, let's get into Sunday here.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
Yeah, it really came down to the wire between Baryclagg
Gaming and JD Gaming there. They were actually both alive
in essentially the final circle there and they both actually
end up getting fifteen points out of the last game.
JD Gaming only just had three kills even though they
won the last game. That was kind of the Nators
why they did end up winning the match day. But yeah,

(01:03:55):
Barclag Gaming kind of what you know from Apac North did.
They had a really good second half. So the last
you know, three map or three games, they're on World's Edge.
They got a third place with nineteen points. They got
a second place with twenty five, and then they got
a third place with fifteen. So again, just the you've
seen these teams at times throughout this these splits just

(01:04:19):
take advantage of a second, you know, set of games
on a different map, and they just, I mean, they
look like a completely different team. You know, they looked great.
And I mean the game with the roster that's got
a walking l which is a hilarious to him. Again,
I think Apax South has got some of the best
player names in the entire world. But I mean, overall,

(01:04:40):
just looked really good. You know, they're running a cryptocomp
for most of the day and again you know they're
pulling out things like the Pathfinder, the Fuse. I mean,
you just get all sorts of fun down Apax South, honestly.
But yeah, they just looked really good. Again, it was
a great battle between them and JD Gaming in that
last half, and yeah, overall, just a really fun way
to kind of always start the weekend is coming out

(01:05:00):
of Apex.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
South and then in the standings in Apax South Wolves
decidedly in the league here or sorry, decidedly in first
in the league here.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
They've got eighty two points.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
The next closest is bear claud Gaming and second with
sixty tied with jen Sports, and then fourth place t
YK at fifty seven, and then JD Gaming down there
at fifth. So that's how it all shakes out, ladies
and gents. That is the regional recap. All regions have
been covered. We're gonna throw it on down to the
Heart to Heart and send you guys on the rest

(01:05:32):
of your week. Let's take a quick break and we'll
see you guys on the other side. All right, ladies
and gents, let's round it out here with the Heart
to Heart. Send you guys on the rest of your week.
It's been an eventful one in Apex and we still
got a lot of time left, so it's gonna be
a fun one. But let's check in with the boys

(01:05:52):
here Heart to Heart first, Jumbama, you want.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
To go first.

Speaker 6 (01:06:00):
Fact that we heard a ship ship, I actually sort of,
but you go for you give him some time.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
Give me some time.

Speaker 6 (01:06:09):
Yeah, And so I'm gonna mix it up this weekend.
I'm gonna go with gratitude. I know, I know it's
a little out of the blue for me, but I'm
just like we had the new split this this uh
this week, h and I've had a probably the best
start I've had.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
In a in a very long time.

Speaker 6 (01:06:31):
Uh, shout out the day one squadron of Keon and
Lil Fredson put together a little dream team. Probably have
not seen as many Team KP as I did that
first day, especially being on alter duty. I'm not gonna lie.
I was just absolutely brutal. Bro I'm putting that at

(01:06:52):
a dude, Well, I'm putting that TP down. And then
Fred's already killed two and Kons already killed the third,
and it's like, all right, pulling up to end game
twelve K twelve Team KP deep looking like jump out there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
But you know we.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Yep, Alter Alter roll guy, you're just the roll guy.
Now you're the roll guy. Now. I guess what roll
guy got you?

Speaker 5 (01:07:14):
You were top ten I saw when you got off.

Speaker 6 (01:07:15):
Yeah, so I got peaked number eight so far, I
think I'm already number ten at this point, probably about
to fall to number eleven or so. But I'll be
waking up early tomorrow and uh getting back on the grind.
But I'm just I'm grateful for for like the split.
It's been going pretty well. H. I like obviously, like
the Seer, Maggie is a not the most pleasant meta

(01:07:38):
to be playing in, but for the most part, it's
not too bad. Uh, And so I'm grateful for that,
And I'm grateful that I've got such great podcast comrades
who are willing to pick up for my my tragic
slack that I've had the past couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
But I will.

Speaker 6 (01:07:55):
I will be getting back on the podcast podcast Around
once again fairly soon here. Uh, we'll see how the
first couple of weeks of this split go.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:08:04):
But yeah, I'm just grateful or the split for everything
I got going on in my life and for the po.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Hell yeah, baby, hell yeah. Stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
There they gutted our Sparrow.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Yeah they did it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
Sparare good, He's still good, but spar still good. Playing earlier,
I was starting to get onto the life siphon wave.

Speaker 5 (01:08:22):
And now you can't use siphon anymore because I've shoot
at my feet and then start bawling out and you
just can't do it anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
You just stunn yourself.

Speaker 6 (01:08:29):
Well, I mean you were always I mean that the
three All is definitely the play I've.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
Always taken three All, but like end of the split.

Speaker 5 (01:08:36):
I started getting a lot of wave after seeing type
it go crazy on some on some onesome ship anyway,
some ship. Yeah he was, dude was literally one to
be threeing everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
With that all. Hell yeah, Jumba, you have a heart
to heart.

Speaker 5 (01:08:50):
Sure I'll rocket and mine's just continuing off like the
Masters Challenge. The video right now is probably the most
excited video a video. I am most excited four in
like the last year of me making YouTube videos, like
I have twenty one pages of notes. Me and my
editor went through and made pretty much notes of almost

(01:09:11):
every game to make sure we didn't miss anything. That
took us like three days, and then today I pumped
out like almost the entire I guess I would say
story structure like point four notes, and I just think
it's gonna be a banger. We have probably we had
thirteen days to make the video. It's it's due, so

(01:09:32):
I think that should be hopefully enough if I get
the script done and recorded tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
But I'm excited for it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
Hell yeah, we love to hear it. We love to
hear it. Don what's your heart Dart?

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
This week, mine's been This past week has been a
little a little crazy. We did you know, four regions
in twenty four hours watch party stuff. This weekend got
raided by play Apex once again. This is insane to
say the least. And then you know, watched APAX South

(01:10:02):
till six in the morning on Saturday and then got
about four and a half hours of sleep and they
woke up and streamed basically from about eleven thirty in
the morning till about one or two at night, watching
all the different regions. But it was a good stream
in the last it was definitely a ton of fun.
Monday definitely had not one of my best days I've
had a long time. But I think my heart to

(01:10:24):
heart is just kind of taking lessons from no matter
what you go through in life and just doing the
best you kind of can to move forward, you know,
because like I said, I learned a lot from the
good stuff that happened over the weekend to learning some
lessons from stuff that happened on Monday. And yeah, I
think the other part of it is went to the
gym for the first time of your half and.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
He chose to do legs, which is so crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:10:48):
Dude, rational leg skipping run.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
I think I just needed to hate myself into lifting
a little bit more, but but no, it felt good.
It was great to get back at the blood flowing
and all that good stuff, and definitely far it was
Monday till you know, it's where I'm at today. If
feel a lot better. So shout out to uh, just
not anybody that's on the streams this weekend, to all
the boys for kind of rallying up and being there

(01:11:15):
on Monday and to say it kind of helped me
through some stuff. But we're feeling good and yeah, just
some good lessons learned over the past week.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
So yeah, my heart to heart is.

Speaker 4 (01:11:29):
Maybe actually got last.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
No, he knows, it's hard to heart. It's zombies.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
It's four for four.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Yeah, my heart to heart this week is zombies. And
I'm trying so hard not to say we're so back
because they just dropped the promotional trailer and like, first
of all, the direction they're going in is super interesting.
They're bringing back the original crew, but from all all

(01:11:57):
four of them are from different eras and different times
and like, for instance, Takio's from fifteen hundreds, feudal Japan,
Nikolai is from the nineteen eighties, Dempsey's from the nineteen sixties,
and then Rick Toffin is from a world where the
Nazis won, which is like an interesting take on everything,

(01:12:21):
because I'm pretty sure there's something in the map, like
when a new map that's coming out where they drop
a nuke on New York City and that's going to
be like the entire premise of a map, which sounds insane.
And then on top of that, they brought in this
brand new villain who is probably like the one I'm
most excited for. He's bad ass, he's got a Southern accent,

(01:12:43):
he's got some sick aviator glasses.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
I mean, what more can you ask for in a villain?
And then.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
We got next week, we're getting all of the systems
changes or I don't even know if they're going to
change any systems.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
We're going to figure out.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Really basically we're gonna figure out next week is if
the game's going to be good or ass. And really
that might be where the Heart to Heart Zombie Streak
comes to an end, because if I see these systems
and they look ass, I might be out. We might
be the furthest from We're back. And so that's where
we're at right now. I'm super excited.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
I've been.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
I've been playing Zombies just about every single night, just
by myself. I started a whole spreadsheet and I just
have I'm just moving my my ranking up and down
every single day. I have like a drop down menu
to to tell me if I've played it enough or not.
And I'm just deep. I'm just deep in it right now.
I'm absolutely deep in it right now. I love zombies

(01:13:36):
and death right now. That's where we're at.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
But ladies and ghe are we.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
On the where are we on the we're so back scale?
Where are we at?

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
I'm where are we on the worreso back scale?

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
I'm about I'm really close to saying we're I'm almost
I'm really close to almost saying we're almost back or
we're back.

Speaker 4 (01:13:55):
Okay, that absolutely makes sense because it sounds good.

Speaker 5 (01:13:58):
Okay, you guys also quickly mention the best tweet, as
he said, takios from fifteen hundred Feudal Japan, which should
mean somebody you shouldn't speak English, And so someone tweeted out,
there's supposed to be like a car on one of
the maps. Yeah, so it's like if everyone's like quick,
get to the car like a talkers over there, like,

(01:14:19):
what the fuck's a car?

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
I've looked at that tweet show and there's so many instances.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
Where that tweet makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
You can go from the fifteen hundreds and he's like
they're like quick, turn on the power like talking is
like what the fuck is power? Like gonna be so
many or any sense? Uh, it's gonna be great. It's
gonna be great. It's gonna be fantastic. The only question
I have and Jumba, we can talk about this on
pack pot. We'll check out our zombie show is when

(01:14:48):
they first walk in, they say welcome to the party,
So it means that they've been around each other at
least for a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Or are they just gonna skip over that when it starts.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
We'll talk about that. We'll talk a we'll have.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
To talk about that. That'll be a question. You guys
are gonna have to go check out so interesting stuff
all the way around. But ladies and gents, that should
just about do it for this week's episode of the
Apex the Podcast, Thank you guys for tuning in. As always,
we'll catch you guys next week after we got some
more ALGs action and probably some more news and then
we'll be back here, ladies and gents.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Thank you guys for tuning in. We'll see you next week.

Speaker 5 (01:15:23):
See y'all back here, See you
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