EWC Preview: Pool A Teams & Format Breakdown

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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Watch up. Everyone. Welcome back to another edition of the
Apex the Podcast. Ladies and gents. We are back. We
are back in a big way. Enoch is ranking right
now at the new season split. What we got Jump
and Dawn here today, and we had technical difficulty start
in this show. I almost put my fists through this

(00:38):
laptop screen. So we are going to just have a
We're gonna have a relax one today. You know we're
gonna have a relax one. But no matter what, we're
still gonna break down. At least Pool A of EWC.
We've got some really good teams. Pool A is a
stacked group whoobi is to?

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Can I say I don't like the terms pool A?
I like group by groupie, I'm something about pool I'm not.
It's not doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
It's not doing it for you, not doing it for me.
Could we think of something else that's not group A
or group B, but also not pool A or pool B.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Okay, hold on, flock a gander flock flock flock. These
are like, these are a lot of bird things. What
is a group of falcons?

Speaker 1 (01:22):
A group of falcons?

Speaker 3 (01:25):
I mean that's probably just a.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, don't you know that? Because I guess what a
murder is just for crows? Crows?

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Sonnie. So should we just do cast a cast?

Speaker 2 (01:40):
B uh No, because I feel like the arey falcons
vans at that point.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Oh yeah, that's true. I guess I'll just stick with
how A pool. Yeah, let's pool.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, let's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
All right, so we got pool A. We're gonna go
through here today. But before we get into all of
that stuff, I think we need to do a quick
little breakdown for people who aren't familiar with the EWC.
Last time when we had EWC, it was a part
of ALGs, but not in the typical like land setting.
It wasn't like, you know, the the three lands that
we had from last year. It's kind of like an

(02:17):
extra land. This time it is a part of that
entire circuit. So I think we got to go through
and talk about this format because it's gonna be vastly
different than what we've seen in the past. So I
don't know, jumpa, do you want to hit? You want
to hit with the format?

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, I got it here. If you give me one
quick sec I can rip through it. So, first of all,
July tenth, so we from time of recording, this is
just about two weeks that it starts to be July tenth,
forty teams, two million dollars on the line, two million
US dollars. I find that I'm always told that's supposed

(02:51):
to be specified, that they want that anyways, So there's
for context, I'll give you everything here. There's gonna be
sixteen squads for the ya's region, eight teams from each
of the EMEA APAC North, APAC South regions. You know
that if you remember from regional finals when we talked
about some of that stuff. The way it works is
as there's Pool A and then there's going to be
Pool B. Okay, in Pool A, it's both teams are

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both groups are twenty teams and their ten match series,
all right, So across those ten match is just to
you accumulate your points and the top seven teams from
each group automatically go to finals. You're like seven, that's
really weird, and again finals, that's really really weird. Yes,
only one group stage set ten games and you can

(03:36):
go straight to finals. Seven go through. Three teams are
automatically eliminated in their group. So we will have three
teams the fly to Saudi Arabia and then go home.
They don't leave immediately, but they have to sit in
the stands and watch. And then day two, same shit's
gonna happen. So then you mean, what happens to the
rest of the teams, The other ten teams from places
like eighth to what seventeenth, Those ten teams from both

(03:59):
lobbies play in a last chance semifinal, and in that
semifinal they brought it out ten games again. Top six
will then go through to finals to round it out.
Last year, this is the exact same format of EWC
if you were curious about how that worked last year,
they did it where ten teams or sorry, nine teams

(04:21):
from each group went through. One team was eliminated each day,
and in the last chance semifinal only two teams qualified through,
which made that that semifinal really kind of fucking ruthless
and crazy because they're like, holy shit, if we don't
make it through in our top nine, we're pretty much
not there. But they also made it that, like when
we were watching it, there were some teams in like
Game ten, just doing wildly stupid shit. Some teams that

(04:45):
like players are now I almost talk I talked about
the one player, no, no, I'm not gonna talk bad
about that one guy all the time. Anyways, they went
to Cup, they did some dumb shit because they were
unfortunately in last place, so they needed to figure it
out and then some times didn't give a shit. So
this would be cool. This will be cool. Now that
it's got six teams, it means a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, so it was, uh, it's gonna be like a
weird format in a way. And like you mentioned last
year was it wasn't as crazy when it was like
the final team just gets eliminated. But it is absolutely
insane that somebody will fly there and in the first
set of games you're just already out like it.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
In this thing happened for Rally, like twenty teams are
not Rally for New Orleans. Twenty teams went home on
day one and then eighty teams went home on day two,
which is even crazy if you think about one hundred
teams went and played for two days. But you know,
it's study Arabia and even though there's like a lot
of people from Europe, it's not as long as a flight,
you know, it's just it's a it's I feel like

(05:45):
it's a trek and like a lot a big process
to get there and uh yeah, to kind of go
out on your first days wild.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
So they're gonna have to step it up big time.
They're gonna have to They're gonna have to do it
up big. Just don't get bottom three. Just don't get
bottom three. Now, from a viewing perspective, from how we
are going to be watching it, it should be very
interesting because I think I don't remember too much about
EBC last year when it came to the last place teams,
but I felt like they were pretty solidified coming down

(06:15):
to the end there, So it's it wasn't as exciting like,
oh my god, like this team that they're fighting to
not get last year. But bottom three that is, I
think that's going to be a much more exciting race.
You could go into that final game ten a team
has sucked all day long and then they just win
that game and it changes everything. You know.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
There was if I remember correctly, there was one like
the one of the sets where like the two bottom
teams were brawling it out in a way of more
like who is worse than the other? Like I think
the one qualified by maybe sneaking into tenth place and
getting a point where the others died. There's some shit
like that, right, or they might have had like a

(06:54):
slightly good game. But yeah, I was like, this one
will be like where like maybe there is a little
bit more intensity where those are trying really hard, where
the other one was just like, oh, nineteenth was shit,
but twentieth was just a little bit more shit.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Mm hmm. Yeah. So we also with all of this,
got a brand new update to the game with some
new patch notes and some legends that I've gotten a
lot better. One of those coming to mind is Watson,
which I wanted to ask you, guys, I haven't seen
too much in scrims, but has Watson been more of
a like presence in those scrims? And do we think

(07:26):
she's gonna go out a little bit earlier, especially especially
now that it's going to be ten game sets.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Before you hop in, Donnie, I just want to say, also,
two world Edges coming back for EWC, and they will
be playing World Edge District, Stormpoint, Broken Moon. If I
remember correctly, I don't know, like and Down. Maybe you
remember this, but I think it's it's gonna be something
like this. It's like group stages are like three maps
on E District than two World's Edge, two Broken Moon,
and then three storm Point, Like that might not be

(07:52):
exactly it, but groups are the same like that, and
then semi final is gonna be a little bit different
where it's like whatever the two maps were for both
those become the three maps, and then the three map
ones become the two map ones, and then the uh,
the final I believe is I don't know, like.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, so I can tell you right here, I got
it pulled up. So for the groups it will be
two World's Edge, then going into three E District, three
storm Point, and then two Broken Moon. I'm assuming it's
probably for both groups, which it is, and then the
last chance semi final it is three Broken Moon, two

(08:30):
E District, two storm Point, three World's Edge, and then
for the match point finals.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Start one all Broken Moon.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah it's actually all broken Moon. Crazy called that out,
but no, it starts on E District and then World's Edge,
Broken Moon, storm Point, and then like it had like
it did with regional finals, it wraps back around. So
game five is storm Point, Broken Moon.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, yeah, just call me to go, Like I didn't
even remember those and I was just like, this is
probably the most logical way they do it. Yeah, anyways,
it's yeah, I'm just that guy. Anyways. Yeah. So so
Watson though.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Nuked game one of scrims since the update, even the
scrim before the update, she was nuked game one, So
that's definitely gonna be how teams a gonna play it.
I think you'd be dumb not to have the Watson
game one. It's just crazy that we've started like essentially
these legend bands with like an Ash being banned, and

(09:28):
now we're to Watson being banned like game one. And
I do think even with all the regions coming in
and it just being you know, a lot of different
play styles, I do think that'll continue on Land after that.
I still think it'll probably be like an Altar Ash
will probably still follow, but it's it'll be very interesting
to see if some of that stuff shifts on Land,

(09:48):
because we'll see sometimes in scrims like, yes, people are
playing some things that they'll probably play at land, but
we do have seen some teams play different things and
then they get to Land and play something completely different
because they're trying to hide strats or something like that.
So I'm yeah, I'm very excited for the legend bands,
especially if we gets the matchpoint Sunday and it's like

(10:09):
a thirteen fourteen game thing like we had last year.
It'll be crazy to see what some of these comps
are like. Because I didn't even get to watch it
last year. I was on a bachelor party, So like,
it'll be really fun to kind of see how this
all plays out this year and see it live instead
of trying to watch you know, Apex at two am
in the morning after coming back from the bars. So yeah,
it'll be a lot more fun. It's time to watch

(10:30):
it live.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
So can I disagree with you for a moment, though
I don't know if Watson's Watson might get banned. Watson
will be used, don't get me wrong. Yeah, but like
I don't know if She's gonna be Game one. I
think it's happening right now because she just came out
and teams are like eager to test her. Yeah, and
like so a lot of teams are jumping on her,

(10:51):
which then they don't get to play their scrim block
with her because she fucking gets banned Game one. Yeah,
but like, yeah, I think that that's just the thing.
Like she just came out. I think they're gonna her
out a little bit and try it. Obviously, her being
controller is great, she gets support perks nowt that's great
her ultimate and like the you know the doors thing,
like you know, like it kind of replaces some catalysts,

(11:11):
abilities and everything like that really good for bunkering down buildings.
But if you're trying to be flexible and like rotate
like using a catalyst, or you want that beacon scan
to give with alter or the fallback with alter, you
lose that kind of stuff. And so yeah, I think
that it might just be like because we just saw her,
I'd need like another week or two to really like
make that decision, like if she's gonna be game one band.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
I think for me, I could see maybe in the
group stages that may be different because of you're just
trying to accumulate as many points, right, so like teams
might have take some early fights. But I do think
potentially in that last chand semi final and or match
point finals, I could see Watson being baned game one
when people are trying to play maybe a little bit slower,
they sort they feel a little bit more of the
pressure where they can take less risks, so I do

(11:58):
think I would disagree maybe on that part, but I
could see where you're coming from with the group stages,
especially where a lot more teams will play a lot
free or you know, they have that ex you know,
absously they still have the bottom three, so you can't
go like completely full crazy. But I could see some
teams coming out and just wanted to fight, and so
they're obviously not gonna play a Watson when you're running
that kind of edge play style most of the time.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
So yeah, that's possibly fair.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, it's just gonna be interesting to see because I
did forget to like it's I mean, Catalyst is still
so so good with what she can do. So and
especially if you're playing like an edge POI and you're not,
like you can't really bank on just assuming you're gonna
get his zone. Trying to run across the entire map
with Watson isn't always ideal. Isn't always ideal. So yeah,

(12:42):
I'll be.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Interested too, because we get these lands right, and there's
so many different you know, compositions or different play styles.
These regions come in and play like we saw, you know,
like Sparrow Crypto or early bands over and like an
Apac whereas you know and Mia and the Americas, it's
always been altered and ash, So I'll be interested to
see kind of what ends up pointing out I think
a lot of the time and jumping correct me if

(13:04):
I'm wrong, a lot of the APAC teams end up
kind of following what America's does most of the time.
So we could still see like the alter Ash be
the ones that are still banned early on, But I
would be interested to see if, like we do get
some teams that really try to play like because I've
seen a lot more of an uptick in like Sparrow,
Like for example, like one hundred Thieves really wasn't running
like a ton of Sparrow at times, but Evan has

(13:27):
just been all Sparrow since they've been doing scrims lately.
So I'll be very interested to see if some teams
start to use his flexibility and kit and Sparrow maybe
gets banned a little bit earlier with some of these
America's teams picking them up. Where So, yeah, I think
that's why I'm honestly most looking forward to is like
how these cross regional you know, teams in these play

(13:47):
styles that they have what kind of ends up being
the band eventually, so it'll be it'll be fun to.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Watch, all right. So enough with the bands, enough with
the format. Let's get into Pool A here. And when
it comes to Pool A, we have a lot of
different teams. I'm gonna pull it up on the screen
right now. If you're watching on the YouTube, if you're
listening to audio, these are the teams inside Pool A.
We've got al Kadzia, Agg Edward Gaming, E thirty six, Fanatic, Furia,

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Gen Sports, Keinotrope Koi, mau Z Sports, Navi, Nip Nosey,
Fox Sentinels, Falcons, Team Nemesis, Team Orchid, TSM Wolves Sports,
and Zero Tnasty. Now, out of this group, I feel
like we have to give the first nod over to
Team Falcons. They won the Open. They also won their

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pro league in the America's region. I feel like they're
the team to beat and they are the big fish
coming out of the entire tournament, to be honest, but
also Pool A. So when we talk about Falcons here,
things are starting to come together for them real nicely.
They're kind of settling into that mode that we figured
that they would settle into in the early days of
the Falcons roster conglomeration. But when we look at Falcons

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right now, going into this type of format, anything can happen.
I think the one thing about EWC is because it's
such a different format, it's a little bit it's just odd.
It's just odd. We have seen though, when they had
to deal with the Open, they still managed to bounce
back and make sure that whatever they were doing was
gonna work, and they ended up lifting up that trophy.
So Jumba, I'll throw it on down to you here
first when it comes to Falcons, are you expecting kind

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of that same maybe get out of the gates a
little bit slower, but then they kind of bounce back
and turn it on early and later into that finals round.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, I mean they that's a that's an interesting question.
Like they I feel like I've talked to some of
those guys, like I've talked to Privacy before, where he
says like they're are such a momentum based team where
if they get started early, they will have a great day.
But like I do agree with you that you're right
that there's a lot of times we see them have

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that slow start and then ramp up afterwards, right like
last B to B you see match point final took
them like five or six games to get going, but
then once they hit match point final, they were like
they made like top five every single game in a row,
and then like and then in the first set in

(16:14):
their groups that I think they didn't like. I actually
looked through my tweets recently and I think I went
like three or four games they were doing not so great,
and then I left for two games and they won
back to back. I left the arena for two games,
they won back to back, So it's like and then
and then I came back and they got like second,
and then they won and then after they fucking closed
out and dropped like a fucking nuke of like one

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hundred and forty points or something like that. So do
I think So, I can't really answer that. I don't
really know. It depends how they come out with the day.
Do I think that they're gonna win their lobby? When
I look at everyone else in it and like the
top teams, I think it comes between like, yeah, them
and IP or alcadsia. Yeah, So I think that they

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got that.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, if we were talking about some of the other
teams are in and around this lobby that could I
don't even want to say surprise, but should be talked
about here. I think the other one we got to
talk about is Navi. NAVI was a team in Go
Next at the time that one champs and people did
not really know who they were. Then they come into
the next Pro League split and they were dominant. They

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didn't win, but they got second place and it was
relatively close. Navi has continued to impress. They've done really well.
I think now they've kind of solidified themselves. Maybe that
win just gave them the confidence that they were always needing.
They had always been making finals lobbies, they just weren't
doing well in those finals lobbies. They finally get their
shot in Supporo and they prove everybody wrong. They win it,

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and then people are like, that'll be a one off.
I don't know, it doesn't look like it's a one off.
Getting second in Pro League and like dominating fashion. That
might be a team where we're looking at, you know,
later on in the day after day one, you're like, yeah,
that makes sense, like they should be here. So Donald
throw it on down to you. Was there another team
other than Nabby and falcons that you think could surprise

(18:04):
some people, or maybe just you feel and expect them
to be dominant.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
I mean going through the list of teams here again,
like al Katzi is a good shout you know we
could throw you know, maybe like an all gamers in there.
I think a team actually really interested to see, and
a team I think I sometimes bring up a decent
amount is Jenji who used to be Green Stego. They're
a team that's always interesting to watch at Land because
you watch them in their own region and it's like

(18:30):
they're just frying everybody. Like they had a really good
Pro League split finished second overall I think by like
one point to VK Gaming, but it always seems like
they haven't quite made the transition on Land at times.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
At the Open they end up getting.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Ninth place, which is their best finish they've had as
a group. I believe it's their only top ten that
they actually have had at Land, So I'm curious to
see if that's something they may stack on to and
move forward with. Because they're a team that can pick
up a ton of kills, like they are very good
fighting team, love to play edge, love to play aggressively,

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but We've seen moments at Lands where they make very
poor choices when they come into ring three, Ring four,
Ring five. We saw any district game where they try
to land behind Falcons in no cover and Falcons ends
up nuking them, which ends up basically throwing their game
and Falcons game. And then we saw in the game
where Falcons won.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
S A E.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
L was in that spot and the cave back in
the cave essentially if you want to call a cave
whatever you want to call it, back there behind the highway.
But they come flying in Green Sego does and they
literally just land on their face end up again essentially
throwing both of their games. So it'll be really interesting
to see if they can potentially flip to a little

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bit more of a Land play style where like, yeah,
in some of these early rounds, you can go get kills,
you can stack up points where I do think they
if they fight the way they can, I do think
they'll be one of the seven teams that does go
to finals, just because I think they'll fight that well
and I think that will translate to Land. But I
do think when they get into a match point situation, especially,

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you really can't play like the running gun necessarily like
it can work, but your odds are a lot lower
in a match point style versus just kind of like
an open you know, ten games, just as many points
as you possibly can. So because they're a team that
can easily pop off, and we basically saw last year
you just get one or two really big pop off
games and you're typically fine. So I'll be very interesting

(20:37):
to see if they can make that transition.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
But yeah, they're one team I definitely want to keep
my eye on.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, So now we've got through the teams that we're
we're kind of looking at like, these are the teams
that are heavy I would say favorites in a way,
teams that are you would expect to do really, really well.
I still want to go through all these teams and
talk about what they need to do to be able
to win, if they're having their best day, and what
could cause them to derail the team. With all the

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rest of these teams, and we'll start with a GG
All Gamers Global will dropped Zach and Skittle Cakes. Now,
this team is very special to this podcast because we
have traditionally said that they either get fifth or sixth,
sometimes fourth, maybe seventh, maybe even eighth, could be ninth.
But this team has the ability, they have the talent,

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they have the skill, they've got the coaching, they've got everything.
So I'll throw it on down to you first Dawn,
when you look at agg what needs to happen for
them to have their best day? And what could you
see them hold? What could you see holding them back
from not being able to make this finals lobby?

Speaker 3 (21:43):
I definitely think for them to have their best day,
I think Zach needs to continue to be opening, the
opening fragger that he is. He ended up leading in
America's Pro league with ninety six skills, which when you're
in the same pro league as hell, that's pretty impressive
because I can't the last time Hal hasn't really led
a lobby, it seems like, but it's he's a guy

(22:06):
that can have Yeah, he's a guy that can absolutely
transform any situation into your favor when he's on. I
mean we saw it with TSM before he'd come over,
that him and Evan were such a good duo together
that now he's come over to all gamers where he's
definitely a little bit more I would say by himself
maybe at times kind of being that guy that opens damage.

(22:29):
But again, when you lead America's Pro League, which is
the best pro league, just taught the bottom, it's definitely
something that you want to keep your eye on. And
I think if they want to have the results that
they have the potential for, Zapp has to be their
X factor.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
It has to open fights the way he can.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah. So now we move on over into the next team.
We've got al Kadzia and I'll start with you, Jumba
al Kadzia. They do great in the open. Everything goes
really well for them, very impressive, awesome to see. We
love to see al kadz Ya. It goes back to
the love affair with I know you really love that
one game, the Twisted Minds game where they come all

(23:06):
the way back your like, holy shit, one of the
craziest games. We have no VOD for it. We can't
even go back and look at it, which sucks so bad.
But when you look at Strafing Flame, he's one of
those players that stands out. He's just he's super fun,
He's got the personality. After the open though, they kind
of did struggle for a little bit, and that leads
like it asked, it begs the question. Was it because

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they already qualified there was no reason to go all
out in Pro League, or maybe just subconsciously you're not
going as hard because you've already qualified. Or was it
because the team was actually struggling so now they go
into this. They ended the season pretty well, they ended
their Pro league split pretty well. But for al Kadzio,
what needs to happen for them to have their most
successful day and what could hold them back?

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Well, yeah, it's funny you say that because I think
they weren't really doing good in general in Pro League,
like at the beginning, right, But I mean they're a
team with like you you mentioned Strafing Flame, but I
think Pricey was like one of the most valuable players
at the open, like that match point final day, I
went on my way to go be like, yo, you

(24:11):
were popping off today and talk to him because he
was he was insane. I think that, like he provides
a ton of values. So what needs to happen? I mean,
if you ask me about every team like what needs
to happen, I feel like it's gonna be a very
similar answer. A lot of these guys have been top
five at Land before. Whether we're talking about all all
cads here or all gamers like you know, you got drop,

(24:32):
you got you got strafing Flame, who had came third
dropped to should have won in rally. You're not in Birmingham,
You're three champs. What I'm getting at is that, like
all of them know what they need to do in
terms of like playing their their game plan, how they
need to rotate, whether they're gonna be edge teams or
they're giving his own teams. And he's gonna sound like
a blanket, you know term answer when you see a

(24:53):
pro league guy say, or like like an NHL player say,
just gotta play my game and get puck scene. It's
it's literally that though, they got to stick to the
fundamentals and make sure that they just how do I
say this, like make sure they mitigate pointless mistakes, because
I think that's what actually gets these guys screwed. Most
of the time. They make some mistakes, they get in

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their head and then they can't bounce back. I don't know,
it's tough because there's a lot of teams out here
that are really good. And when I was looking at
it and you were talking about like the favorites and
Donnie's talking about you know, Jen or Green Stego, and
I see Falcons, Navvy, Fanatic, nip tsm Furia, al coadz
yall gamers. That's eight teams and only seven go through.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Mm hmmm, So like what do they gonna be?

Speaker 2 (25:39):
So what? Yeah, Like I don't know, I find a
really difficult question. I don't think my answer was very
good at all, because like what do they need to do?
I don't know, Like it'd almost be like don't be shit,
like I maybe my answers are really bad today.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Answer. I guess. The one thing with how Kadzi is
when you talk, when you talk about some of those
other teams you listed off, it seems like with some
of those you get more consistency than we've got with
al Kadzia like that, I think maybe what holds them back.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Strafing Flame Yeah, maybe like he's had like a lot
of lands where he's done really good, and he's had
some lands where he's done like not like poor like
and everything like that. But player K, especially now we're
talking about Watson Buffs, is probably like the most experienced
Watson player, Like that guy only plays Watson like when
they go to lands and then like I said, Price,
he's amazing and Straving Flames my goat, And that's might

(26:27):
not be a very good answer for other people, but
I think they get in. Last year, that Twisted Minds
team in the group stages and they had they had
easy Flash instead of now Pricey. But I think Prices
still come in and done really well even though Easy
Flash was an insane fragger and they finished second in
their group right, so they got through. They were just
a few points behind Falcons. They struggled in finals. They

(26:51):
didn't do very good in finals. But again I find that,
like you know, on any given day, you could be
the best, if you could be the best team, or
like not one of the best. You know, they were
towards the bottom at one point. I don't know, like
it's it's really just you got to find a way
to play your game. And so it's a tough question
for me. I don't know if there's any one thing
I can say, like, oh, like Price, he's got to
be on or like straying, Flames got to hit his shots.

(27:13):
Like I don't think it's that. I think it's just
like a holistic thing.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah, I'll say real quick too, just as a last
note is that I've gotten to know their analysts really well,
and I do think that their biggest thing with their
region is that it's a very aggressive region and they
play much more of like a zone like gets his
zone play style. Like in their last couple days of
Pro League, I mean there were days they were getting
the top four like every single time, they just weren't

(27:38):
getting a ton of kills, and that was kind of
the question was like can they generate enough kill points
to work the way up the leaderboards? So I think
if there is one thing because like yeah, like jump
at the of the day is right, like don't be shit,
like show up and play the way you can play
and just don't suck. But like I do think if
we are looking for like a question is can they
generate enough kills to push themselves with the rib That

(28:00):
would be my only question.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Which might be a funny thing I'm saying with like
don't sut like no one shows up and just goes like, ah,
I'm gonna be bad today, right, But it's just like yeah,
like you just like they just have to be on.
But it's like, you know, the funny funny thing is
is I listed out all those like names. This is
something that maybe we'll talk about at the end of
the podcast and maybe more when we talk about pool
BE next week. But I want to compare the two groups,

(28:25):
and I list off those eight teams of the teams
I think could go through and one's gonna be left
off with that list. The list for for POOLB, I
think is way bigger. We go all that. Yeah, we'll
talk about that appter. I think the list for what
POOLB is way bigger, But we'll get back to that
at the end.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah, tune in next week for that. We move on
over into Edward Gaming. And don I know you're going
to be able to have the analysis for this. Uh,
give me some give me some tidbits on Edward Gaming.
Give the people what they want to hear on Edward Gaming.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yeah, so Edward Gaming. They're formerly known as dream Fire
for those who probably have heard them from pasts three
m Z and PIGHT.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
I think I'm saying that right, but those are the
two that have done it.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
PDA I was like, come on, man, I'll try my
best to be respectful here, but no, but you know
there are two long standing members of like dream Fire.
They've been together for a while. Return is a newer
player that they've picked up more recently. They were unable
to attend the Open, so we don't have much data
with this particular roster.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
When it comes to Lands.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
But one thing I didn't notice is that their character
selection is all over the fucking place. I couldn't tell
you just buy stuff characters who the igl was?

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Who?

Speaker 3 (29:38):
I mean, there's a guy that's on ash and Newcastle
the same block. There's a guy that's on Watson, ash
Fu's Wraith within five games of each other. I couldn't
tell you what their play style really is because that's
just all over the place, but I can say they
do they have a very balanced attack when it comes
to kills and damage and things like that. They don't
seem to be an overly aggressive team just based on
their numbers, but they are team that consistently was in

(30:01):
like that top five six of the region. So I
think with their past experience at Lands, and I've heard
a lot of good things about Return, so I do
think they are a team that could be capable of
sneaking into that top seven. Their biggest thing is that
they struggle mightily on E District, which I think for them,
I think we had mentioned it's only two games for them,

(30:21):
so if they can hopefully mitigate the damage that they
may struggle with on ed District, I do think that
they could again sneak into that top seven. But it
wouldn't surprise me if they kind of up being one
of those teams that's like eighth to twelveth, like they
go onto the last chances in my final. But again,
I do think they know based on their pass experience.

(30:41):
You know, we've seen the dream Fire name before. I
do think there is some potential there, So we'll have
to see what what they end up doing Atland.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
We move on from Edward Gaming and we move into
E thirty six, And really the only thing that can
save E thirty six is if these two hats that
I bought from them in Japan get burnt on fire,
because if I'm wearing that hat, they are absolutely fucked.
There's no way they're doing anything. That's my analysis for
E thirty six. I apologize the hats are too fire.
I wear them literally every single day. Today I'm rocking

(31:10):
the snow one. Yesterday I rocked the regular Camo. It's
just what I do. I apologize. I'm sorry. The second
I bought the hats in Japan, they had just had
one of the craziest sets they've ever had. They were
just dropping kills left and right, and then I think
the next set, I think they got eighteenth. So that's
really what it comes down to. And I wish that
wasn't the case. I wish that wasn't it, but that's

(31:32):
just what it is, Okay, I gotta wear the hat,
so I apologize. E thirty six actually take this as
a challenge because if you can find a way to
dig deep and qualify while I'm alive and wearing these hats,
it's actually another feather in your cat and it'd be
more impressive. They should actually engrave that on the trophy
if they end up winning it. But yeah, that's my

(31:53):
analysis for E thirty six. You got anything done.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
I don't know if I can say anything much better
than that, to be honest. No, just in terms of
the stuff, for you know, people that are more interested
in kind of the numbers and stuff. They end up
third overall in they Pack North Pro League. They kind
of struggled a little bit at the open. They got
to some of the deeper rounds, but I think they
expect to finish higher than forty first, so definitely a
little bit of a struggle for them at the Open. Again,

(32:18):
they can be a very aggressive team, as we saw
a Champs, they had those pop off games where everybody
was like, holy shit, this team is dropping twenty plus
kill games multiple times, like who the hell are these guys,
Because I mean, last time we had saw E thirty
six before Champs, they were nose diving off of height
onto tsm's forehead. So I think they've definitely had some growth.
It was crazy, but it was I think they've definitely

(32:40):
grown a decent amount from that moment to now, and
I do think they can be a team again that
can get into that top seven. But again, they're gonna
be kind of that same boat as some of these
aggressive teams that we see out of APAC is can
they translate what they do in their region to a
land setting and still you know, get all these kills

(33:01):
when there's so many good fighting teams in the Americas,
You've got the Alliances and you know, all these other
teams that are so good around the world fighting, you know,
can they translate that to this land and make it
into the top seven.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Top tier Logo Baller Logo by the way, so shout
out them. We move into the next one. Here Fanatic,
it's been an up and down season, kind of like
a new look. They still have Yuka, but they now
they now have Colonel Garcia libel Ace. It's been a
weird it's been not normal. It's not like a typical

(33:37):
Fanatic pro league that we saw right it was, It
wasn't it wasn't the same down. I think a lot
of that can be contributed to just time playing together,
trying to get used to the squad. That could be
part of it. But do we still view Fanatic as
the team that we viewed them as like a year ago,
per se, Like, do we still hold them in that

(33:58):
high of a regard? Where are they at?

Speaker 3 (34:02):
I mean, I think right now we can't really hold
them to that same regard because obviously that regard was,
you know, their instant locked for first place in their
pro league every year. I think right now, just based
on where they're at again, they are a team that
has a capability of making a run because again Yuka
lib Lace, you know, when they're fighting well together, they

(34:25):
can be a really dominant force, but they just have
not found kind of where their consistent floor is. I mean,
we literally saw where they got multiple top two or
three finishes in Pro League, and they also got basically
a dead last. So like we just you know, we
don't know I think what version we're to get a fanatic.
I do think, like right now, we see Yuka f.

(34:46):
I mean, he had eighty seven kills and thirty five
k damage in Pro League, which was their overall, and
we have Libelace that I think had made I think
half of those kills, like had like forty six or
forty seven, which I think the idea when they brought
him was that he was going to bring a lot
more firepower than that. So I'll be interested to see
if he can maybe step up his game to kind

(35:07):
of match a little bit more closer to what YUF
can do. I won't say on Park because obviously YOUF
is one of the goats, like he's just that good
in fighting, but I do think if libel As can
turn up his production and you know, kind of feel
a little bit more confident when it comes to some
of their fights, we will see a much better version
of fanatic than a sixth place, like they got in

(35:29):
their own pro league.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
So this one, this is one of those teams Jumbo.
You look at it, you're just like they can make
a run though, like they could, they could do it.
They could make a run. It's like one of those
exciting teams where it's like maybe not jumping off the
page because it's not the same fanatic from a few
years ago, but it's like, I don't know, maybe you
can make a run. This is I think that's at

(35:51):
the top of the list. You want to see them
make a run.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
I mean libel as squad had, you know, just narrowly
made Champs on kind of like a dream run, I
believe through LCQ. I if I'm remembering correctly. They didn't
do great at Chaps after, but just that ability to
get there through the LCQ. I was expecting a lot
from them. So yeah, yeah, we'll see what happens here

(36:14):
when they get to the land.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
I'm just saying to you again real quick, remind the
people libel Ace came over to kaf and said, make
me great. So if there's any time you could be great,
it's at a land.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
So do you want a hilarious story about Libel Lace
go for it. So we me and Jay had to
like film this Apac North piece and I think I've
told this before, where we basically we had sectioned out
time for filming with the Japanese players and then we
had to take them up into the stands of the
Japan Stadium. The day of that we're supposed to do

(36:48):
this in our time block, they locked all the doors
to get upstairs, and like, we did not know that,
so we took them up one set of stairs, and
then we took them up a second set of stairs,
and then we took them up into the elevators, and
every single path we took to get upstairs to where
we're supposed to go was locked. So we made these
guys go up and down, like I don't know, six
flights of stairs and two or three different elevators try
and get up there. And they were starting to get annoyed,

(37:10):
and we can't communicate with him because they don't speak English.
So finally we said, screw this, We're just gonna do
this on the main floor. We walk out with the
boys from CR saying June and then Obli we start
filming with them. We get it. Shots look great, we're
gassed up, we turn around, we go to grab bible
as he's gone. He just left. I don't blame him

(37:32):
if I didn't know what the fuck was going on
to these guys just made me walk around circles around
a pretty big stadium. I probably would have been pissed
and left too, but he just fucking left. And then
after I looked at the guy who's like supposed to
be in charge of him, like the Japanese handler, I
was like, where did he go? Goes? I don't know
that you're supposed to know, you're supposed to stop him.
So anyways, yeah happened. We got him back like no

(37:54):
more than like forty five minutes later, and I had
to film with one guy and it might have been
Yuka and then Libel as I was in a room
with no freaking windows, no like proper seating off it
was just one chair and a camera and a microphone,
and so I had like all these really high level

(38:14):
Japanese players sitting on the floor just fiddling around with
the water bottles because I had nothing else for them,
and I couldn't talk to them. Yeah, I was probably
the most embarrassed I've ever been working on something.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Those are always tough situations there that one's not fun,
not fun at all, but that is fanatic. We move
on into Furia here and now this is a team
where I'm happy that they've stuck together at least when we.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Should you be talking about should you be talking without Furia?

Speaker 1 (38:41):
I'm not gonna say any which I'm not gonna make
a definitive statement on Furia. As a watcher of the team,
I've observed, I'm happy that Madison Keon decided to stay together.
Not I think has added a really good element to
the squad as well. But when you look at Furia,

(39:02):
the best placement for Madison Keyon so far has been
eighth overall. So you look over at Fury, you're wondering,
what the like, what could this be? I do feel
like they kind of fit into that they could make
a run team as well, because they've had some weird
sets where they randomly will get like eighteenth with a kill,
fifteenth and then like thirteenth, and then they'll just rip

(39:24):
off back to back wins and the rest of the
rest of the time they're just always hovering around the
end game and getting kills and stuff like that. But
I'll throw it to you jump. But I guess when
it comes to Furia, what do I don't even know
how to phrase, like what holds Furia back? Uh?

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Furia is interesting because in the group stages they always
tend to, like you said, pop off, they'll win sets.
I was trying to find last year's details because I
was really curious to see where they play in Germany
group stages. Germany group stages they were fifth, and in
the Championship group stages they were thirteenth. But at the Open,

(40:09):
I remember them winning a set because we had Keyon
do an interview. And then in the finals they just
seem to not show like that Germany Finals. When we
talk about, you know, Falcons getting twentieth, Furia was right
there with them getting nineteenth, and you just wonder what happens.

(40:32):
Maybe it's like some bad luck. Maybe it's like, you know,
things don't go their way. That's very possible. I mean
when we look at Alliance for example, and a lot
of their like you know, group stage mishaps and finals
like it was like, you know, bad luck. So sometimes
you need to look into that very closely because when
they do good, like in the final game of the
LGS open, they can absolutely roll. So yeah, they're definitely

(40:53):
a wildcard team for me because I don't really know
what to expect from them. They can either be one
of the best teams in the lobby or for some
reason like in the bottom like five. Yes, what's holding
them back? It's gonna be like making sure that Keon
knocked or are kind of putting out the damage of
the ken Keon. I think on any given day could

(41:15):
be one of the best in the world, and that
Maddness is able to like be confident in this call.
Sometimes I think that he is in really good positions
and then makes a call to move because he thinks
it's better uh and and it might not be as
good as his first thought.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
So yeah, the good thing for Furia is to know
that you have a baller on the bench in JMO
as a coach. If you need him to step in,
he can step in and get you at least second
place in a day. So we know that for sure.
So that's that's big for Furi. We already talked a
little bit about Jenji earlier in the UH in the
in the Pot, so we're gonna move on over into

(41:49):
Kenotrope Gaming and Donald throw this one to you, Keno
Trope from Apac North. What do you got from those boys?
What could we expect from Keena Trope?

Speaker 3 (41:59):
Yeah, so just a couple quick hitters. They got seventh
in their pro league. They had gotten a top forty
finish at NOLA, which I think for this roster is
definitely a very respectable showing because they had two players
making their initial Land debuts down in New Orleans, so
I definitely think that was a good stepping stone for them.

(42:20):
Voles got eighty five kills during the pro league, so
that was fourth overall, So definitely some fragg and potential.
When it comes to him, I do think that they
will rely pretty heavily on Yuka.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
Predators. I think I said that right his.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Land experience, because this will be his eighth Land, He's
had a ton of experience from the past. But I
do think this could be a team that might struggle
to stay out of the bottom three, just compared to
a lot of some other teams, and how well some
of these other teams have played some of like, you know,
the experience, because obviously for these guys, you know, you

(42:58):
have the open where you had a lot of rounds
where you kind of build yourself into it, whereas this
one you're not gonna have that, So I will I'll
be interest to see if they're a team that can
kind of avoid that bottom three, because I do think
their goal obviously they want to get to the top seven,
but I think they might need to be thinking kind
of just avoiding that bottom three and giving themselves another

(43:19):
chance and that last chance at my.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Final, Yeah, sometimes it comes down to just managing those
expectations and just trying to find a way to just
get out of that bottom three zone and just make
sure you're doing the best you can, and they definitely
fit that role. Moving forward into EWC, we move on
into the next one here it's Mao's e Sports from
em EA. We've got this one's gonna be interesting as well.

(43:44):
Do we how do you guys view Mao's Esports. Do
we view them as a team that could be kind
of fighting for that trying to avoid the elimination zone
or are they maybe more of a dark horse team
that could surprise some people.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
In my opinion, I think they're not like bottom three eliminated,
but I don't know like they'd surprised me if they
made it top seven on that first day. Yeah, it's
just zero nothing has been around the game for a
really long time. And like he's also like had moments
of like greatness when I say a long time, like
zero nothing competed all the way back at X Games,

(44:20):
So he's been like a pro in APEX for a
like since you can be a pro essentially, and there
I believe like he did good. But anyways, yeah, yeah,
there you go. I mean, like again, I don't know
how much we use X games to compare to that,
but hey, he got second take X Games. But like yeah,

(44:42):
since then, I haven't seen him do like anything too crazy.
I'm looking here. Just pulled it up eighty six at
the Open, which I mean, I think the Open is
GOODA was a much easier competition than what you're going
to be seeing in EWC in those first sets, like
you guys just said, so, I don't again think that
maybe they're a bottom three exit but maybe like semi
final mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
We move on into the next one here, and that's
movie Star Koy And when you look at the best
performances from the entire squad, you got fun FPS who
has gotten second place at the year two Split two playoffs.
But then you have blink, sir, and how do you
say this name?

Speaker 4 (45:18):
It's Jelly. I don't know why, but it's just.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Speak against one of my Canadian goats.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
There we go. We got Jelly and both of them
at the the ALGs Open. So pretty different results for
this team, you know, very different results. What can movie
Star Koy do here? They do feel like one of
those teams that can get hot at the right time.
I wouldn't. I don't know if i'd call them like

(45:47):
a dark horse at this point. I feel like as
a team they're still relatively new, trying to figure every
everything out with what they want to do and how
they want to play. But what do you guys see
from Movie Star KOI.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Don did you want to want you to go? You
go for it?

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Oh, you're good, I'll go for it.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
I would just say that, you know they're gonna be
one of those teams again that generating kills is gonna
be ultimately the question, because again they're gonna be a
much more patient team, a lot more of playing zone.
It really is going to come down to, you know,
picking the right the spots at the right time, uh,
making sure that they are rotating on time, they're not
making any silly mistakes during rotations things like that. Obviously,

(46:30):
fun brings a ton of experience, which is obviously could
be really good for the roster, and Blinkser and Jelly
kind of got their initial land experience out of the way,
so now you can go to w C kind of
know a little bit more of what it's like to
be in person, you know, playing. I mean, people have
spoken very highly of Blinkser and Jelly and their respective

(46:50):
roles as guys that are kind of coming up with
you know this, you know, younger, I don't even want
to say like younger, but like just the not you know,
the not Hal generation. You know, it's kind of the
next than one next after that. But again, I think
they will be another team that will struggle probably for
that top seven. But we also did see during Pro

(47:11):
League that they got a second place day, had a
really big day, so obviously on the right day they
might be able to jump into the top seven. I
think ultimately, just based on their play style, I think
they'll end up kind of falling again in that middle
of the order and kind of just trying to find
their way through the last chance qualifier. But there's still
a lot of good things to like with the roster.
It may just be a little too early to maybe

(47:33):
see like the full potential of these guys.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Yeah, like they were oblivion before Blinkser had made Pro
League in previous years and just struggled, like they just
couldn't ever get that step. I felt like they were
just literally like one of those in between teams, like
too good for CC, but like struggle to hang in
Pro league. Jelly's really young. He's literally seventeen years old,

(47:57):
and I think he just turns every because I'm pretty
sure the last time I saw that he was.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
Sixteen, he was the youngest player in America's Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
He just turned seventeen in February, so like, no, he's
been seventy for a few months. But anyways, yeah, like
you know, he started this Pro league as like a
sixteen year old and then like as he Donnie said
about fun, like he's obviously been around the game for
a long time. Fund is probably one of the best,
like when it comes to just pure mechanics, but unfortunately,
when you got these roller cycle paths out here, you

(48:27):
got the Imperial Halls, the Koi Fuls, the Zi News
like even throwing like the key ons in there. I'm
forgetting some other names that are just insane, you know,
funds like unfortunately doesn't have the fire power. And I think,
like exact, Donnie was right when he said just kills
is gonna be the hardest thing.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Mm hmm. Yeah, So that is movie Star Coy. And
we move into another team that I think we probably
could have mentioned at the beginning of the show as
a team that you know, you would expect to do well.
And it's weird because we didn't really talk about the
most of the season, but we're talking about NIP Ninjas
in Pajamas with Vain Glovin and Karev. They really started
to come along after they added Karev to the roster
and they made a run. They almost won this pro league.

(49:07):
They lost off of a tiebreaker, so it was very
close for them. But they are another team where I
do feel like they have a little bit of Furia
in a in them where it's uh some inconsistency at times,
especially at the beginning of matches or sometimes even the end,
but this team is still very dangerous, still very good

(49:27):
and when you look at the overall accomplishments here, it's
actually pretty impressive considering Vain took a little bit of
time off. But I mean, you look at Vain's best finish,
you got third place in the year three Split two playoffs.
You look at mcglevin got thirteenth at the Open that
was pretty much like the Open was kind of like
his coming out party. And then you have Karev who
finished sixteenth at EWC. So they have a lot of accomplishments.

(49:49):
They've been in this spot before, and it seems like
they're getting to reach their kind of their pinnacle at
the right time. So I'm really excited to see what
NIP can do. You guys, anything got anything else to
add to NIP.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
I was just looking for their standings. I'm obviously like
with how they did in Pro League and how they
finished off Pro League once they picked up Karev after
the Open, I'm like obviously like expecting like big things
from them here at the Open, I was trying to see,
like how their points were after game one. I think
they got thirteenth, and I think that they would have
been further up ahead if they didn't get pretty much

(50:24):
ratted on by Twerkaholics in game one, so like, yeah,
like unfortunately it took me about fifteen minutes just to
find them on the website and then realized I was
supposed to go to the open on the website, so
it's take me a long time to click around. But yeah,
like they they were there. You know, I'm really positive
about like what their play could be, and I feel
like vanes on a comeback to where like you were saying.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Mm hm. So then we move over into Nosey Fox
and Don We've done a lot of the regional recaps
at the end of these episodes here, and that's a
name we have said a ton. We've said that a
bunch of times throughout this regional recap when we go
through the APAX North region. They are They're killing it, man,
They're doing really, really well as far as their potential

(51:09):
when they're mixed in with everybody else from all the
other regions. Where do you view them? Do you kind
of see them as like a dark horse? Do you
see them as a team that can make it into
that top seven to initially start it off, or where
are you at with with Nosey Fox.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
I definitely think they can be a team that gets
into the top seven. Obviously we mentioned a lot of
the names already, so again, really any of those seven
spots are gonna be tough to get into. It's like
you mentioned though, like you have the success in Pro League,
you know, there's obviously some teams that aren't really laying
caliber they're going up against. So what you know, what

(51:45):
are they able to bring over to see when you
see the world's best all at one place. You know,
we saw at the Open, you know they finished outside
the top forty, which you can say what you want
about the format, but like you know, good teams find
a way to get further along, like we saw the Falcons,
and so it is a roster that obviously came together
at the start of year five, so it could have

(52:05):
just been the Open was like their first time they
kind of needed to figure some things out as a team.
But again, you just look at the roster with for
Rufa Satuki, like there's a ton to like a lot
of big names, a lot of experience. So again, I
think it's a team that they've all played on land
before multiple times. They know what it takes to get
it done. It's just can they translate their success, bring

(52:27):
it over to WC and just show that they do
belong with everybody else.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
So on them. If we were talking about Fanatic before
and wondering what they could do, because they're doing and
everything like that, Suzuki and Liika, what are the ones
who played for Fanatic alongside Yuka as well? They had
like a top three last year and the one playoffs
did pretty decent at you know, al just champs as
Donnie was saying, like roof up been around the team

(52:53):
for a long time, like these are your Apac North
vets who have been to multiple lands but actually also
succeeded and they did well with those lands too, So yeah,
like you know one pro leagues in the past as well.
So yeah, like if you want to look out like
who's probably the best Apac North team, it'd probably be
them right now.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
Yeah, that's that's their best chance to win EWC.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
So then we move into do.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
You maybe want Chumba to like introduce sentinels or are
you past that?

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Now? I'm just gonna say the team name. I we
have sentinels. Do you guys, you guys have anything you'd
like to say about sentinels because I am banned.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Should we say anything about Sentinels Sentinel honestly?

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Maybe just them?

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Not not? Hey, Sen, if you're listening to this, any
of the boys, not because we don't like you or
something like that. In fact, is that a pure respect.
It's because we do like you. We might skip you
and shut out, send go watch the open root them on,
not wyat everyone else.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Sentinels. Uh, we're too much already. We're doing this because
we care. No. Fuck, I just fucked it. I just
fucked it. Uh, Sentinels, we just got, we got. I'm
just moving on. I'm just moving on. I don't want
to do anything more. I don't want to do anything more.
We already talked about Team Falcons as we want into

(54:24):
Team Nemesis. We got Team Nemesis from e M e A.
They got third place in the e M e A
Pro League. Well, let's let's talk about this one here,
don Team Nemesis for people who aren't watching e M A,
Team Nemesis.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
Team Nemesis. So yeah, Team Nemesis. Yeah, Okay, I think
we're good now. I think I think Team Nemesis all
right now we're good. So yeah, looking at this roster, uh,
it is a lot of names that have definitely developed
over recent years. We seeing Remix Powers obviously start to

(55:01):
get a little more notoriety at Champs, and then Zooni
has had a really good split so far. He led
the team with eighty eight kills, which I believe was
top ten in Media Pro League. I would have to
go look at that, but I'm pretty sure it is.
They'd made a couple of roster changes throughout the split
and they ended up with a new third, so it'll
be very interesting to see. You know, they had an

(55:23):
okay run towards the end, So I do think that
there is some potential and I do think on the
right day, they might be able to find themselves in
that top seven. But we did see at times some
inconsistencies with this team. So if they do fight well,
because again like they've had some times where they absolutely
fragged the lobby out, if they're able to do that,
they should find themselves in that top seven, because I

(55:45):
mean they were, I mean there were even some days
they were even beating out you know, Alliance and some
other teams that you'd expect to always win every parly day.
So I do think there is some potential there if
I had guess what I think they ultimately would do.
I do think at least just based on their last
Land appearance, because I don't believe they had made They

(56:05):
got what was that sixty seventh I think at the Open,
So well, we'll have to see if maybe this next
Land is a little bit better for them. But again,
on the right day, they are definitely a team. They
can find themselves directly.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
In the finals.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Then we go on into a feel good story. I
think Team Orchid I like watching Team Orkid. Remember we
interviewed Rambo not too long ago, and obviously we we
also had on Panic, who was a part of that
squad for a long time at the beginning of the season.
So there we have some this season we have some
odd ties with with Team Orchid. But it's it's awesome

(56:40):
to see them doing well. It's awesome to see them
qualify for this tournament. They did have to fill the
the Panic hole with surs, so Sirce has Luxford. Luxford,
sorry Luxford, that is the new player that is that
is filled in on On Orchid uh And typically they've
played that that zone play style, but even in that

(57:00):
regional final, they were sitting really they were sitting real
pretty for a long time there. I just kind of
faltered there at the end. But as far as Team
Orkid goes, I think I feel like you're kind of
playing with house money at this point. I don't think
a lot of people expected Orchid to make it after
Panic had left. They still find themselves in the position
to do so, and who knows, Like you get some

(57:21):
good zones, you could surprise some people. Where do you
guys sit with Team Morkid, I'll kick it off with
you jumpa all right?

Speaker 2 (57:26):
So like, yeah, with Team Rkitt, the big thing is
is that Himbino is not gonna be going to the land.
He's opted not to go. And so you mentioned Surcey.
That's where surce is actually gonna be playing with them,
So it's gonna be surce Lux and then Rambo. Now,
Hambino was a really good igo. I've always liked the
way he's played. He's had several opportunities to be in
Pro League and succeed in Pro League and had them

(57:47):
rip it away from him, and then this year it
was awesome. I know that they were right on the
cusp of not qualifying, gone into that regional final, got
into EWC now and that's awesome for them. Well, unfortunately,
have to see how they're able to play with one
of the other three taking up the reins of ie Gelling.
I assume it might be Luxford. I feel like he's

(58:09):
someone who's got like the most experience of the three,
and I don't think he's necessarily would do bad at it.
But yeah, it's gonna be a little bit of a
interesting watch to see how they perform.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Now, don is is Rambogan Igl?

Speaker 3 (58:25):
I my guess was that it was going to be Rambo,
just because Luxford hasn't had a land appearance before, so
I thought no, So I thought that with Rambo having
at least some experience on the land, that was gonna
be who I thought it would be. I'll have to
pay attention a little bit more to scrims to see,
because I know when Hambino has scrimed with them, he's

(58:46):
been playing the anchor to allow somebody else to igl.
So I'll have to pay a little bit more attention
moving forward if that is Rambo. But yeah, like we mentioned,
it's a good story. I mean they're literally twentieth I
think they've maybe even got in with like a tiebreaker
or like by one point into the regional final and
then they have argued. I mean, I think their best day,
you know, of the entire split during the regional final,

(59:09):
which you know, great time to do that with the
elevated points and everything, and you know, jump them up
to sixteenth and ended up qualifying. So definitely a lot
of respect to those guys. Great to see, you know,
these kind of stories be able to play out at Land,
and we'll again, we'll have to see obviously, when you
lose one of your main members, how you know it goes. Unfortunately,

(59:30):
they might find themselves in that, you know, towards that
bottom three conversation just because of that. But we'll yeah,
well obviously always be cheering on Rambo and the boys
and definitely hope things go well.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
I would love to see a Rambo igo. I would
just love to see how that works.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
See, I was only think the Luxford for the reason that, like,
despite the Land experience and not saying that Rambo doesn't
understand the name, he always just has been that anchor
type rule, which then I feel like the players, but
like if you're someone who like was like like a
Jen Burton, who was like a fragger who then like
went to an anchor type role. If Jen Burton need

(01:00:07):
to IGL on a team, I mean, first of all,
it's Jen Burton, but like I feel like he's got
that that full knowledge. Some of the zay comes up too.
I'm talking about to the best players in the game,
like anyways, but like Rambo's always kind of played like
that more anchor type role in my opinion if I
remember correctly, and so because of that, yeah, I just
feel like if you're someone who's more on the front lines,
able to fight really quick and everything like that, someone

(01:00:28):
like Luxford, you might be able to get into that easier.
And then Sir s I felt like it just was
like too new to the role and everything. So who knows.
We'll see, well, we'll yeah, we'll ket paying attention more
to Scrims maybe, and.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
I think we'll definitely see Sir say in like the
fragging role because that's kind of been what he's been
since he's been in Pro League. And yeah, I think
it'll definitely come down to Luxford or Rambo. I will say,
if Luxford is the IGL, they'll not be short of
comms because that man could come like anybody else. So uh,
if he ends up being it, you know, calms will
not be the issue for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
So then we move into our final few teams. Here
we got TSM, Duplex Gent and our Boy Panic, the
Young Phenom TSM. They get seventh in the American Pro League. Uh,
and then I guess, I guess with this team, it's
really just what version of TSM are we going to get?

(01:01:22):
We've we've seen some bad versions of this this roster, uh,
and then we've seen some really good ones. So I
feel like it kind of fits into like the earlier
teams we were talking about where it's like, like what
are we gonna get? Just don't be shipped literally that
like that. That's what it comes down to, is like
it's where and it's and it's tough because you want

(01:01:44):
to say that they easily fit into the to that
top seven because of the raw talent, But once again,
it's like there's a lot of really good teams here
who show up consistently. So I don't know, don like,
do you have do you have anything that you think
could hold them back?

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
I mean, I think it's always just a come down
to the balance between Duplex who likes to play a
little bit more patient zone and Panic who likes to
definitely take space and be aggressive. You know, they've got
the experience with duplex and gent and I definitely think
they are amongst those like probably eight nine ten teams

(01:02:23):
you'd be looking at to be in the top seven
just on paper. And obviously Panic has shown his ability
to pick up kills, which obviously goes a long way.
But I think it is just ultimately like balancing out
those two. You know, we kind of saw some some
moments where there was some heated exchanges between the two
just because I do think they just see the game
a little bit differently, which can be good but also

(01:02:44):
obviously can lead to some crash outs. So you hope
that they are able to balance that because again, I
think it's a roster that and I think we all
agree like it's a roster that does have a lot
of potential on paper. It just really is ultimately can
come down to can they kind of balance each other
out to where it works well for the team as
a whole versus it kind of being the downfall of

(01:03:05):
the team.

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
So we'll we'll see.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
I mean, they've gotten off to a hot start and
regional finals kind of weathered out. They're in the middle,
installed out right before match point, so that kind of
might be the signs of like can they can find
that consistency. So we'll definitely a team to keep an
eye on, though.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
For sure, I want to see TSM win just for
the simple reason that if they do win and you
watch the chat, how many times are people going to say,
where's how? I just want to see that just typed
to chat over and over and over again.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
I'm actually no, I'm asking, actually asking has that happened before?
I didn't know, like if they've ever won?

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
To go every time I watched chat on any final day,
it's just the only questions I see typed are about how.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Yeah, but like typically it's like about it's about like
where's falcons? Where's how? When falcons? Wait? When is how?

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Plays I've seen? I don't know people likesms.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
I didn't know. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
I still see those two this day. So I just
want to I wonder, like, let's just say we have
our our best most most watched land. You got like
two hundred thousand people in there. I think we're gonna
see a handful. I think we'll see a handful, you know,
I see I still see him to this day. It's
crazy to me. It's crazy because you'd assume that they're
fans of how so they would know that he's on Falcons,

(01:04:23):
but then you still see, like, where's how Like, I
don't know. I'm interested to see.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Where is he?

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Where is he? Where I need him now?

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Wolves Esports, we got our final two teams. We got
Wolves Esports, the Premier League team. The Premier League team
has an APEX team. I love to see it. We've
got the APAX South team, Wolves Esports. Don what do
you got from Wolves?

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
Yeah, I mean they're they got sixth in their Apex
South Pro League, a team that I believe was formerly
known as SWQ for those maybe it's in them the
past lands. I know they are a team that has
has struggled at times during Pro League. They did find

(01:05:10):
their way in. They're definitely one of those teams that
was kind of on like the border, as like the
final games are going down, and they ended up kind
of faulting their way in eventually to steal their spot.
I mean, one of the better names in the entire
proceede of I hate the World is on that team.
Sometimes it's referenced as no name because I'm assuming there's

(01:05:32):
just some places that probably don't like that his name
is I Hate the World, so it's just listed is
no name. But I mean he had eighty three kills
in forty three k damage during Pro League, which I
would say is it's probably yeah, it's probably pretty decent
all but no, I mean, he definitely is a guy

(01:05:54):
that can turn fights when he has, you know, when
it's his day. Again, that's he was fourth overall in
APAX South and kills. So they're a team that I
think will also kind of fall more towards the bottom
of the leaderboard if I had to guess again, just
because uh not Crazy Kong as one of their players
as well, he has had land experience versus the other

(01:06:17):
two have at least been to one or two lands,
So it could be a team that will probably have
some struggles with the lobby quality jumping up. But again,
you just you never know with some of these fraggers
from APAC, you know how they can turn a lobby
at time. So if he is able to maybe you know,
pick up a few extra kills here or there, maybe
they're kind of able to jump their way more into

(01:06:37):
the middle of the pack and give themselves a chance
during that semi final round.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Hey, I was gonna say, listen, if I professionally had
to play against fucking Devo users in eight hours a day,
I'd hate the world two.

Speaker 4 (01:06:53):
Crazy point.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
He might have just been ahead of a really good point.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
And then we rounded out with our final team boys,
the final team of Pool A. We got zero tenacity
from EMA. I don't know a whole lot about zero
t Nasty, but what do you guys got?

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Yeah, so with zero tanacity, I mean, I think the
biggest thing is that they're definitely going to play off
of Feuda. It's a name that people definitely recognized from
past lands. He had played with the case Swinny squads
a couple of times, so he'll be a player definitely
to keep an eye on. He led the team with
seventy six kills. Yes, if there is some confusion for people,

(01:07:31):
like there was some people on this podcast, there was
multiple versions of zero Tanacity at one time, So this
is like a team that got signed by zero Tannasty again,
so don't get too confused if you see that multiple times.

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
Get brought up.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
But yeah, I think that the ceiling of this team,
I think in a land environment may not be the highest,
just because again they after the open kind of came together,
I believe one player and they're now coach. We're the
ones that kind of held the spot. So they're a
team that I think it's still good to be doing
lpat some chemistry over time, and it might be a

(01:08:04):
team maybe we look further into, like Split two, that
might gain a little bit more traction when it comes
to like the world stage. I think right now, especially
when they kind of have to put some stuff together
and they're a little bit newer together, I think that
again there'll probably be a team that we might see
a little bit more towards the bottom, kind of fighting
their way into that semifinal. But again, you know, seventy

(01:08:26):
six kills from feud is definitely not a number to
the slouchat. So we'll see if you can maybe have
an impact for him and shake some things up.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
And ladies and gents, that is Pool number A. That
is Pool number A. They are Pool number A. Super exciting.
We went through every single team right there, boys, We're
gonna hit Pool B next week. But ladies and gens,
that should just about do it for this week. We're
gonna throw it on down to the Heart to Heart
and then send you guys on the rest of your week.

(01:08:58):
Let's get it, ladies and gents rounded out with the
Heart to Heart this week. Jumba is back, so he
must go first. Dude.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
I listened to the pod last week and I got
to the Heart for Heart and I just love when
you go from end of the show to the start
of the show. We lost jump, but somewhere along the
way he is no here. I was like, oh good,
I'm happy because I was like, wonder people just be like,
what the fuck cabinet.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
I was gonna just let it go, and I was like,
I don't think I can.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
No one cares, No one ever cares. By the way,
the comments actually just never cares there and then no
one I don't even belong on this show never, they never,
they never missed me. But then on the on the
reddit they give they're like, I can't believe whyatt that
fuck never posts. Actually they didn't say that, they said,
I hope I'm not sounding too critical. I was just
its just surprised why it doesn't post on the reddit.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Yeah it's because.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
No, No, the guy was nice about it. He was
nice about it. But I even talked to response today too,
because someone said, like, I can't believe why it doesn't
post you too. I liked giving the other guys karma.
I feel like people want their Reddit karma, So like,
if these guys want to get their post karma or whatever,
I don't. I'm not watching a redditor, so let them
get it, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Yeah, well I got. I went on Reddit one time
when the show first dropped and I was getting flamed,
and I was like, yeah, I can't come back here
like it was. It started getting into my head to
where I was trying to like change my style. And
then my next like two shows were complete ass. So
I was like, no, I'm just gonna I'm gonna stay

(01:10:34):
off my bad dude.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
That was me. I was just calling you a bitch
all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:10:39):
It all makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Hard, it's so hard ship. Give me a one with
to think, give me one with a think. You know,
I haven't this week. I've been really busy. I've been
really busy with work. This is gonna be the weirdest
hard to heart ever done. And uh, Wyatt text me
about an NHL trait. Okay, I text you about the

(01:11:02):
NHL to right, And when he did, we were talking
about that, and I was talking about how I don't
like the Philadelphia Flyers management. I think they kind of suck.
And then Wyatt said, should we become the GMS? Like
what if we were the GMS? I was like, I
bet we could do pretty good. We should be winn
a GM simulation game and we should we should rip
that because that would be pretty sick to see how

(01:11:23):
we can do. And I found one online, this very
very intuitive hockey GM game. And I have been so
busy and I was supposed to pound out a script
and all this other stuff, and I have wasted way
too much time. I just want to say that I
have gone eight seasons straight of well eight seasons. Yeah,

(01:11:47):
of course, I've gone eight seasons straight with the Toronto Raccoons.
That's my team. Long story short. We went to the
Cup final five times. I've won one that pissed me off.
I started a new team just with funzies. Wanted to
just kind of like draft players and like see how
I could grow that. And we've won in our first
fucking year. Long story short, I am having some of
the most fun of my life spending three to four
hours looking at fictional free agency. Yeah, I'm loving it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Yeah, and you know what, we would do this in
an NHL video game if they were good, which they
haven't been for a long time, So let's figure that out.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
I just want to say a shout out. I don't know,
it's like zen GM sure my heart to heart this
week is like finding fun in the little things. I
did not think that this game is literally basically like
a spreadsheet. It looks like a spreadsheet. And I have
been killing four hours in chunks of time just fucking going.
Should I sign of Genny Kalinlan back when he's thirty
two years old and on seven million dollar contract when

(01:12:45):
he's gonna regress even though he put up fifty goals
for the last four seasons. Guess what I didn't. I
didn't do it. I brought in Coha Marx and we
went to the Stanley Cup Final again and got fucking swept.
I'm basically the Carolina Hurricanes.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Yeah that's not good. Yeah, no, maybe bring back the
fifteen point because.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
He regrets he didn't do as good and Plus I
got Michael Tremblay, who's basically Sidney Crosby. He's also thirty
three now, though, so we gotta we gotta have a
talk with him.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
But but said he continues to but.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
He's making a thirteen million bro like sid would never
take thirteen mili.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
No, he'd stick at eight point seven. Uh my heart, Heart.
This week is also video game based. I'm back and yah, yeah,
this is so crazy. When I say I'm back, I
mean I'm back. On that Zombies Grind Baby chat.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Today, Wyatt kicked me off packa Pod. Literally, he said
text me. He text me and said You're off packa
Pod and I fucking hate you. That's what he said.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
I I have the pros. All I said was I
I tweeted out the packa Pod logo and listen. The
reason why we didn't invite Jumpa to these Easter Egg
runs is because we knew he was trying to win
the Stanley Cup. We wanted our guy, We wanted him
to win.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
You didn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
I haven't talked to him.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
This is the first I've told you about. This is
the first did him to win your line?

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
Touch as like for him to say this, it just hurts.
It cuts me deep because he's such an integral part
of Pacapod. I don't know. You know who's also an
integral part of Packapod is Brian, who's never been on
the show and never will be because he's just going
to be a legend of this show.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
That show, like we just talking about, we're to.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Talk about Brian. He's never gonna be on either of them.
So uh, yeah, we we.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
I don't know what you're saying, lying though I have
the text proof where it says I hate you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
You're off Backabod, Like, no, I did not yet, I
did not say that. I literally said. We did some
of the Easter eggs, actually just one. We tried to
beat the tomb and we couldn't beat it. And he said,
I can't believe you just told me you hate me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Yeah, but no, no, no, no invite. So I kind
of read between the lines. He basically said, go fus himself.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Here's what happened. We were already in discord, and then
Richie had really wanted to do him. That's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
If Ritchie, if Richie, if it was Richie, Richie was
the villain in a hot minute. So if it's Richie.
That's that's cool. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Yeah, Richie was the villain. So we so we did
two shattered veils. The first time we failed it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
And know what these maps are.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
Second time we beat it, and then we tried to
do the tomb twice, failed it both times. The second time,
Kyle was so not locked because he had just gone
on a date and he was just absolutely mind fucking
what happened at the end of it, and so he
was not locked. At one point, he literally tried to
change Jayhawk's volume and discord mid round and died right

(01:15:26):
before the boss fight had started. So we had to
wait more rounds to get all his perks back because
he had no money. He was just so unbelievably locked.
He was just thinking about his date date, good or bad. Well,
you'll have to go listen to grab my Bachelor. If
you want to go figure.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Out, you'll have to listen. But yeah, it sounds like
you guys needed the rookie of the year who went
like six easter eggs straight before dropping his first failure.
You know that's like, yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Good, that's good. I think what we really needed was
something magical like the throw. I think that's what we
really need. The tomb is actually ridiculously hard, and I
hate that map and it sucks. It's such a bad
map or it's not even it's just boring, but like
it's terrible, and so to have to keep playing it
over and over again is like actual pain and torture,

(01:16:17):
but we keep having to do it. So we got
to figure out the tomb. Jay went off by himself
and did it by himself, and then I was going
to try.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
To do it by my fashion. Yeah, yeah, he's just.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
He's just like I got he Me and him were
both thinking about it all night. But the difference between
me and Jay when it came to this was like
he was like, I literally can't unless I go do it,
like I need to get it done, whereas I had
to like I was just like contemplating doing it. He's
all about that action. So he went and he did it,
and we're going to try to figure it out. But yeah,

(01:16:48):
so I'm back on zombies. One map left in Black
ops six zombies. Uh so yeah, I think we're gonna
record some packapods. If you guys are zombies fans, were
just be ready for that. That's gonna be some fun.
We still do need to play the e STREKEX with Jumbo, though,
I think have you played the Tomb or Shattered Veil?

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
I The last map I played was I think the
second one. Okay, so we got which is the map,
the map the Veil, the map of the Swords the
last one I played?

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Okay. So yeah, so you haven't played the Tomb, which
is good? And then Shattered Vale you gotta play, which
is I honestly have it in my top five maps
and in all my out of all the tray Arch game.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Yeah, I gotta get back into it. When Zombies came out, bro,
I was ripping Liberty balls like me, I put up,
I put up the most you have jumbos like.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
You had a ton and then yeah, that's it. So
Zombies one map left in this rotation. Then we already
had Black Ops seven get announced and there was a
bus in the background. So I think we're getting a
Transit remake. So things are going to be interesting coming up. Zombies, Dawn,
You're heart tart this week real quick.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
I'm pretty sure my only contribution to Zombies was literally
me trying to take notes of which guns you had
used for that one challenge.

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
Yeah, and then it didn't work.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
So when I fucking ran it back with him and
then like it just didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
Yeah, so my non zombies existence is shit. So I'm
not you know, I'm glad you guys found some piece
in zombies. But anyway, my heart to heart is I
have been a stressed mess these last couple weeks. A
lot has gone on and just my personal life with
different stuff with family and work and trying to get

(01:18:33):
stuff done for podcasts and things like that. And I
found what might be one of the better ways to relax,
and that is mowing your lawn. I have finally found
why grown adult males say mowing your lawn is relaxing.
I never reached that point in my life. I think

(01:18:54):
I officially have to call myself old now though. So
that's the shitty part. But uhout out to Moni or
lawn because that was actually very peaceful, relaxing this week.

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
It was much needed.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
After I said, just a lot of stuff going on,
But yeah, shout out to people that mow their lawn
and find some excitement in that, because I have you
reached that point in my life?

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
Have you per it? Have you purchased your Nike Air
Monarchs yet, like you have you gotten that? Now?

Speaker 4 (01:19:24):
I'll make sure to wishless that though.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
Well, that's what I'm saying because because if you're gonna
be a Moyar lawn guy, you need to have the
grass stained air Monarchs because then people know, oh, he's serious,
like he's about this. I'm gonna listen to what he
has to say. And when you talk to him about lawn,
you gotta have the monarchs on obviously with the khaki shorts.
And then you got to be standing like this.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
Just can't do that yet you're still an eligible bachelor.
Can't do that, don That's so funny though, because a
couple of years ago, I had moved out my like
into a new build house with my sister and uh,
and I was there a lot more. My sister was
always busy with work, so I was there alone. And
one day I had no grass. The next day I

(01:20:07):
had grass, And then the guy told me, you're gonna
make sure to water this and like, you know, like
we gotta fucking make sure it settles in. So I
was like, ay, I I went to Walmart, bought myself
a sprinkler, set that ship up, went into the room,
grab grabbed a little fucking chair full of the chair,
pulled it out, sat in the window, and just watch
the sprinkler water my grass as if it was gonna

(01:20:29):
sprout roots the next two hours and I was gonna
catch it. I just sat there and I watched that
ship and every day I tended to that grass so carefully,
so nicely. Now it's a little bit sad because like
I had moved back in with my parents, my sister
moved there with her now husband, and uh and uh
last week wed the red the backyard. So my grass
that I ever so watched for two to three weeks

(01:20:51):
just fucking watering it, we completely ripped up. What This
new grass in the backyard looks nice now.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
But it's not the grass that you were connected too.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Though.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
The funny thing is this one I should probably be
more connected to because I laid this grass and I
fucking there go. Yeah, I just didn't get to sit
there for two to three weeks to watch it grow
like my child. But yeah, I was thinking the same shit.
I was like, holy crap, I'm twenty three and my
excitement is staring at this grass all day long? What
is going on?

Speaker 4 (01:21:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
I the next day, walked by my my front door,
just looked to the grass. I was like, okay, that
looks really good, man.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
I got a real quick question for you, and then
we're gonna round this out. Are you cutting your grass
like an inch taller than your neighbors so this way
your grass looks a little bit better, a little bit
richer and fuller.

Speaker 4 (01:21:37):
Hmmm, of course, okay, good.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
Are you are you in a sitting mower or are
you pushing that john?

Speaker 4 (01:21:44):
Pushing the john?

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
How much grass do you have?

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
It's not it's not enough for a yeah, okay, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:21:50):
Yeah, it's nothing crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
You know, I didn't know property.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
I ain't got it like that right now? Why until
maybe you'll start paying me for this podcast, so maybe
I get a bigger.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
For this podcast. Shut up. I run streams on fucking
Monday nights and I don't even I'm not even on
the podcast. Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
Nothing from that I appreciate.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Yeah, shout out. Watch those are funny.

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
Watch wait, wait till the Choking Chickens game is over,
then watch DMR.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
But so yeah, like like like, uh, you have to
be careful with the one inch trick because your neighbors
may ban against you and come after you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
But I will say though there's somebody across my street
that never cuts the grass. I'm like, man, I can
roll up and down this block and I will always
know I'm at least better than one house on the block.

Speaker 4 (01:22:45):
Shout out to shout out to that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
Yeah, well, ladies and gents, that should just about do
it for this week's episode of the apex of podcast.
Next week, we're gonna go through Pool B talk about
all the teams as we head into e w C.
It's gonna be great. It's gonna be awesome. We're super
excited for EWC. Thank you guys for tuning in. As always,
we'll catch you guys next week. See y'all,

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