The Open: Day 2 With Jhawk & Burke

Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Stream yo yo yo.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
He said, it's up, it's up.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
I know this is what we did last time.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Who see myself?

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yoho? Okay, let me get the tweet out and then
we'll get started.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Fellas, I don't have the chat at all, though, so
I should probably grab that.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
I'm gonna get the chat up.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Why not looking at chat?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Why not looking at chat? Big? I'm a big chat guy.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Believe it's still. Remember when I sat there an entire thing.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
I think it was. I think it was enough.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
You read it like as I was going to bed.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
I think you're talking to and he said something about
the fact that like something why it being could be
a great streamer. I was like, too bad. I just
won't read chat.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
I won't read chat, you know. But other than that,
I could have made it. Why is watching some Star Wars?
They're watching Star Wars and they're.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Having finishing the Phantom Menace?

Speaker 4 (00:58):
Kind of crazy to finish the fan to menace in
this day and age.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
I'm just happy he's watching.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
I'm just happy watching it.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Are my buddy Green?

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Okay? Yeah, we're live. It's on there.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Okay, you guys ready, can you make the tweet? I
did make the tweet. I sent it out.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
She's just not reloading.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Oh okay, you guys, ready, I was born.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Ready, let's get this thing going. All right, Here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
This is behind the scenes for people who don't know.
Here we go, three two one, what's top of everyone?
Welcome back to another edition of the Apex the Podcast.
Ladies and gentlemen. We are here and we have just
finished ALGs the Open Day number two.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
We've got the whole squad here.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Obviously, we got down, We've got Jumba, We've got Jay,
and we also have Burke joining us.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
From Team Fusion. He is coaching Team Fusion.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
That was the Thuggets right before Team Thuggets, so that
was this is the We got the full entourage here,
the full squad, and we just kind of wanted to
go through and talk about day two because it was
kind of a crazy day when you look at some
of the teams who ended up going into the losers
round pretty early, as well as some of these other
teams that have made a name for themselves. And I
think the one thing you can say when it came

(02:15):
to the open was a lot of people were looking
at it saying, this looks like a very daunting task.
It looks like something that's going to be really difficult
to manage with one hundred and sixty teams.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
But if all goes well, there's.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Gonna be some teams that surprise the hell out of
you and could potentially open up a pathway for themselves.
I wanted to start off with this. We got to
talk about Torkaholics. I mean, this team is absolutely insane,
insane Torkoholics had one of the craziest days. Almost all
of their points are KP, but it doesn't matter because

(02:48):
they're getting so many kills that they continue to just
keep going and going and going. The first day I
ended up missing because I was traveling, and you guys
were saying they were already frying.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
On those days. They were twerking on lobbies, they.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Were shaking back met and they were just going hard.
They were throwing ass. And then when I watch them.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
They aren't actually like when they win, I'm all disappointed
that they're not throwing at This is.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
My biggest this is my biggest thing.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
But Troy Troy brought up a good point. Shout out Troy.
He said, maybe they're saving it for.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Like the no No No. If you're a tworkaholic. That
means you're addicted to twerking, twirking. Maybe they should be
they should they so then they should be called tworkaholics
in rehab.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, so like you're not.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah, you're not allowed to get up from your seat
during the game. If they're tworkaholics, they get a kill,
they're getting pulled off the stage because they're twerking mid set.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
It's just like, I just want to see more ass thrown.
I'm not seeing it.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
I think the one thing Apex has been missing is
a little bit of extra ass throwing, and I think
a lot of people have thought that.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
I'm not the first one. I'm no visionary in that.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
In that regard, I did say that if they won
a game in that final set and the camera came
was I would start throwing cheek. Unfortunately that they didn't win,
and unfortunately the camera didn't come so I couldn't throw cheek.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
But I'm not taking that off the table.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
I think I will throw cheek if absolutely necessary.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
I think that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Anyway, getting away from that, the obvious torkaholics name, which
I have a qualm with Apex, I'm not gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Here, but I do have a qualm.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
But just getting away from that, just the absolute debauchery
that they were putting teams through. It's not like they
were just playing in a lobby with nobody's I mean
they were playing in a very deep, deep lobby and
they were able to come through.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
And I don't know what it is, what you guys saw, I'll.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Tell you so yesterday what they were doing. The big
thing was they're getting I mean they were dropping like
twenty kilo games, said one twenty kilo game, one eighteen
kilo game on both maps. For the maps, the E
District was number two, but was first Stormpoint or World Hedge,
World Touch, so like they were doing it on both maps,
and what they were no it was Stormpoint because what
they would do is they would land it devastated, did

(05:03):
landed devastated ship poy, they grabbed some guns and they
would send it. They'd send their ash player all the
way to launch Pad to go grief. I can't remember
it's an APAC team, but they would go grief them basically.
And so in a POI draft environment where you think, hey,
you're safe to loot for a bit, these teams weren't safe.
They were getting pseudo contests in a way, right, they

(05:25):
did that three games in a row. They're picking up
good KP and the team never learned that they were
gonna be coming.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
It was World's Edge, that was right.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
It had to have been, because they were landing devastated.
They din't going. Then maybe they were doing their previous set.
They were doing that devastated, Yeah, because yeah, they were
doing it that they were doing their previous set. Yeah,
that's right, because I told Jamerson that's why they were
doing good and that's what he talked about when we
were on the desk, and then in later on with
E District, like, yeah, we didn't see the World's Edge.

(05:53):
Then on E District they did the same thing the
land at Settlement, which was like a no name poy.
Instead of running as fast as they can this time,
Connor was saying that they were walking up to stadium
to be quiet and they would just wait or did
they wait? Did they rat at stadium yet? So they
basically they would rat crazy Raccoon of all teams three
times in a row, pick up three KP off the start,

(06:15):
get some loot, and then just run down the rest
of the lobbies. Fight whoever, and that's how they were
picking up a ton of kps. So it was an
interesting strategy that I didn't think would work going into
tougher lobbies when you have better teams. In the next set,
they didn't do the whole dropping and contesting off drop
type of thing, but on set and gask And was

(06:36):
telling us as we left that they were still just
ratting people, and which everyone tries to rat play here
and there. But I guess they were just doing it
more often. I don't know they're getting away with it.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
They loved doing the crouch walk up to not even
sometimes they wouldn't even crouch, they were just walking and
they would just slowly walk into into an area close
enough to where they could like take advantage of a team,
and then they would do it and it was.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
Well, you know what they kept doing too. They would
so like, for example, the last game, the staging team
and they're at thermal, the harvester would fall between them,
so they would go to the harvester and they would
just sit and wait for the one guy to come
grab it and they would kill him. Because teams are like,
you know, you're just thinking, like the thermal team they're
probably looting. They'll come get it later. We get it
right now, we're fine. But they would they knew that

(07:20):
that shit was gonna happen, so they'd get a guy
there early and he just waited and then when they
got the killed, then the other two start come running
and then they fight him.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
So it was it was a super interesting just display
from the team overall. The one person I wanted to
highlight was Floating because there have been an obvious amount
of P twenty twenties in this lot, like in every
single game.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Obviously, that's like the gun to use for whatever reason.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Floating is saying no, I'm not gonna do that, and
he's using the nine, the R nine, and he is
destroying people with it.

Speaker 5 (07:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Absolutely, New led day one in kills, and like you know,
there were some teams like Falcons who only played one set.
Hal and Zero both had twenty five kills a piece, right,
so you know there's some of those guys that if
maybe if they had two sets, yessuay, maybe they dropped
more than forty kills, which that Floating had. But there
was names like Unlucky up there or even a fact

(08:14):
I'm sure was up there and he had more kills
than them, And these are guys we were talking about
being the best last year. Yeah, so they're like what
thirty six and Challenger Circuit I think your doc said.

Speaker 6 (08:26):
Yeah, we talked about like some of these games, the
four mats, like like they're coming in, we just play
shoppers or getting no one expect anything that we drop,
no one to expect us to come out confident everybody,
And we've seen like what happens when you know the
day these about yourself and there to be doing.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
It's just a testament to them that they.

Speaker 6 (08:52):
Just continue to keep playing this way, to keep packing
no matter who comes by, and it's honest.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Yeah, And I think if you're running the Ballistic, which
I think they run a lot of ballistic, you're running
an R nine because a lot of these people run
P twenties, and when we look at the damage per second,
the R nine is better. The problem is the P
twenty has can kill more people with one magazine. So
you're running the R nine and A one, but you
got a reload. You're on ballistic.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Sorry, Donnie has no audio.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Donnie has no audio.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Magic I didn't want to hear, didn't want to hear
Donnie anymore, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
But yeah, I mean you run, you run the AR nine.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Hello Hello, Yeah, you're good.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
No, And suddenly that's not an issue when you're running
ballistic because one, you don't have to worry about burning
AMMO because you've got unlimited AMMO, and two you get
the faster reload so you can be right back in it. Realistically,
the Arnine is the better gun, but then you but
then you factor the fact the the acceleration.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Two.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
But they're running characters with very low cool balance, they
don't have to worry about that.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, Jumpa made a good point too, and I didn't
really think about it till he had said it. But
when you're playing in Challenger Circuit, there is just a
different kind of play style. We've talked to some of
these Challenger Circuit teams in the past, and there everybody
says that those lobbies play.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Out differently, and for them, maybe the way that.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Those lobbies play out don't really make sense for how
they want to play.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
But then when you get into an environment with.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
A lot of highly skilled, like way higher skilled players
in these lobbies where things are much more like organized
and less chaos, they're able to bring the chaos and
because they feel more comfortable in that zone.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
So I think it's it's super interesting.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, I'd say yes and no, because the other thing
is if you took like a top pro league tam
he's talking in Challenger Circuit, They're not gonna be finishing
bottom thirty just because they don't understand it. So I
don't know. It's confusing for me. But we knew this
was gonna happen with this Land. There was gonna be
someone who's gonna come here and perform and go crazy,
and we were all gonna be sitting here going what
the fuck? How we never heard of these guys and

(11:01):
that was what they wanted with the open. I didn't
think it would be a team that would be at
the bottom of Challenger Circuit, maybe top CC, maybe a
PSQ team, maybe a which they are, but like maybe
maybe a team in pro league that has always been
at the bottom and never got a chance at Land.
But this has be gotten pretty pretty cool, pretty cool story.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
I think the problem is that a lot of CC
teams do that. We were talking about it earlier, and
I'm not sure which of you I was talking about
it with, but in CC, there are the teams that
are very aggressive and variable, and the problem is they
burn bright, but they burn quick. And you have the
zone teams and like look at you know, Hambino and

(11:41):
them and how and they're doing really well too. Obviously
now they're in pro M, they'll climb up and they
started in a very similar place, but because they were
playing zone. Those are the teams that make it out
of Challenger Circuit. Whereas these teams that are very aggressive,
they're gonna have good singular sets, but they're not gonna
be able to convert that in the long run, especially
because there's just too many other teams doing that too.

(12:04):
When it comes to this environment, there's not nearly as
many teams trying that, and so they are getting rewarded
for that because these other teams that are playing more
cautious they see the stakes.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
This team comes in nothing to lose. The stakes mean
nothing to them.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Last place is where they already were, so they have
only up so they can play aggressive.

Speaker 6 (12:23):
Yeah, yeah, And I think it's just impressive that, like,
you know, sometimes you just see that team that pops
off for a day, right, but then comes back the
next day and you know, teams have seen them now
they're used to it, Like they've now done this two
days in a row, like obviously the next couple of days,
like if they continue to keep getting through the tournament,
are gonna be insanely hard lobbies. I mean, we're already
looking at lobbies for tomorrow, even in like the loser side,

(12:45):
and it's insane the teams that are in certain lobbies.
But if they can repeat what they did these past
two days, like it's going to be absolutely insane to
see if they can make a finals, because I know
we've all been texting each other like, bro, this team
is still off, like how is this Like how is
this even happening? I mean their three B three alliance,
they're thirty three and so many teams that you're like, oh,

(13:06):
they'll get run over. It was just crazy.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
It was crazy because so the way we were sitting,
Jay was like directly behind me, and you're thinking after
the first couple of games, I would look back and
be like interesting, you know, and you're thinking it's going
to stop at some point that they that they keep
getting kills. But there was a game on Stormpoint where
they ended I think with twelve points eleven of those
points were KP and I think six of those kills

(13:31):
came when they were a duo and they didn't even
have a third And I'm just looking back at Jay.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
I keep looking back. I'm like, what is this?

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Like this is insane and at a certain point, and
I think, Jay, you can speak to this too. You know,
people were asking like, do you change your play style
going into if they make a finals lobby or.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Whatever they do to the Winners Finals. No.

Speaker 6 (13:52):
Yeah, so it's like going to style. It's like one
step away from MAGA finals.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
So in the winners finals, No, the weird party is.
To be honest, I think this winners fin lobbies is
worse than the lobby they just played in. Like the
amount of heavy hitters that harder. Yeah, so like the
lobby that yeah, sorry, weaker, weaker. I think the lobby
they just played in is harder than the one they
have tomorrow, which sounds crazy, but just in terms of
like team names they just played against Liquid, Envy, Aurora, Nave, Complexity, nine,

(14:21):
Nice TSM, all those teams just fell to the bottom
into losers. And then on top of all the teams
that winners, Energy, Twisted Minds, VK Alliance fanatic sa Ghs
Furya realized, like they've played some great teams, some of
the teams coming from the other side of the bracket
they now have to play. We're talking about like Babo, Exoclan, Medior,
ten k R Army Empire. No disrespect to any of

(14:44):
those teams, but compared to like the Liquids, the Navis,
all those teams that I named that fell, I don't
think they're as good. And they're still playing the same
ten that they just played against, so they don't change
it in that one. I think they could pop off again.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
In that one, to be honest, Yeah, and if they
if they do, I think this is gonna be the
funnest storyline to follow, at least for me personally, just
to kind of watch and see what happens with the team,
because at the end of the day, when this is
all said and done, no matter what happens tomorrow or
whatever they do, they're going to have a name made
for themselves where people.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Will be looking and being like who is this team?

Speaker 2 (15:20):
What made them perform?

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Like this was the Justice And even then you look
at it, if you find some players who are good
on tournament you want to take a chance on some
of those guys.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Like this is why the open was I think.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
The most like this was gonna be the most interesting
storyline coming out of the open is are we going
to get some new fresh blood?

Speaker 1 (15:40):
And I think we found some.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
I do want to finalize that point real quick about
tomorrow's lobby. The one thing I am interested in is
in the previous lobby, I feel like the only team
that feels like super equipped to handle a team that
just sprints at them. It was like an Energy or Alliance,
and we saw that one time they did run an
Energy and they kind of handled them. Yeah, so we're
this next lobby, which I guess there's some other ones

(16:02):
like a Liquid or stuff like that, but they didn't
necessarily have like always just straight clean thy threes and
this one they now have one hundred thieves, Alliance, n RG,
and Shopify and all four of those, Like you could
make the argument that's like the four best fighting teams
in the world's Falcons. Ye, so that part does scare
me a little bit if they do run into them.
But at the same time, when Falcons are in their lobby,

(16:24):
they were running at them too, so it didn't matter.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
I mean, if we're want to talk about Falcons, will
get there in a second. But my thoughts about falcons.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
One question about turcoholics. If they win match point finals,
they won't.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Let's say they do, do they go back to challenge.

Speaker 6 (16:45):
A spot at mid season playoffs?

Speaker 2 (16:46):
And I they will get an invite to split two,
But like they can't. They can't join the regular right now.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Insane to think about that. They just running back and.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
I guess they could keep playing CZ the rest.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Of the Actually they should do that.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
The cool one of the rest of the league is
just to go to mid season playoffs.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
It just I do agree, though It's like it's weird
where they like, how do they get practice? They'll have
to wait until mid season playoffs scrims start, which are
going to be like at least a month or so away, right.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
The scrims like filling maybe if they will not win
because their play style. I mean, they didn't want a
single game to day. They had nine placement. They just
wanted to get bodies. They just love bodying.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
I don't know. Before you switch anywhere and starting new topic,
they want to say two things. Because we got chat here,
some people asking questions that we'll try to let's why it,
let's section to talk about questions, We'll read chat and
then the other thing is when to say past who
got rated by play Apex is also watching the streamer
house show The Pass support.

Speaker 6 (17:50):
Live streaming everything.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, so that I want to say that. Someone chat
asked about Zesty Bestie. Yeah, like, we got a couple
of things here, Zephyr, you just said twisted minds. I
don't know what you meant about.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Thather's cowboy boots were so twisted minds raw.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah, I think he was referring to something as someone said,
but can we talk about chugging the Yeah, we could
talk about Zephyr just chugging the hot sauce.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
That was metal Ship.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
I walked in the back after and I asked him.
I was like, how you doing, and he's like, yeah,
it's not as hot as other hot sauces, but his
stomach just felt like it just felt like something was there.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
That's understandable. I think I wonder why. Yeah, it's understandable.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Someone said, Zesty Bestias. I'm not gonna lie. I didn't
really catch much of what was going on with them.
Logo analysis.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
It's bad ass. It looks like it was made in
my word, yeah, but it's still sick. Like Sometimes if
people try to overdo and make a logo look like
they didn't put a lot of effort in, it can
be off. But theirs was perfectly underdone to where it
looks cool.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
The zesty besties, that's my analysis, almost like we.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Could roll with that. It looks like they just went.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Like that ban logo. That's just the people that hand
wrote their name.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
In my opinion, they had a conversation that like the
gist of the conversation was this is so bad, it's funny,
let's send.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
It, and it was.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
It was great. The thing was he said twisted minds
because Troy came in and grabbed a grabbed a twisted tea,
which is.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Okay, Yeah, I don't think Troy knew had a camera's just.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Walking who Yeah, watch all the chat. We got some
people here, we're vibing and they might need to come
grab a drink.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
And we had a long day. We had, we had
a very long day. Let's move on jump. But it
won't just be about Falcons. But I do think we
should talk about some of the surprise teams to kind
of go down to the losers early and Falcons kind
of headline that because I believe they were really like
the first one with Gaming Gladiators that you're like, what
the hell.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Well, I think the thing straighted with Falcons as simple
as like they just thought the lobby was going to
be shit, and so, like I think a lot of
teams if they played that lobby yesterday, maybe they do
and fare better, but those teams like having like overnight
to kind of do whatever they want prepared and everything
like that, Falcons just went in there and just did
not expect that they weren't going to be able to

(20:21):
just run it like ranked.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
So I have some insider info in this.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Doubts Fusion was in that lobby with them, and I
had access to the chat.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
And let's just say after that lobby they landed Sky West.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
They got it for that draft, they got Sky West
for the following draft and the Loser's bracket, and it
just so happened a team in Sky East was lonely
let Gone, which if you're aware that Gone, I've heard
of them. They're the Apex South team Roy formerly from
dream Fire, very well known.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
And they're the kill leaders, right.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
They Yeah, they were kill leaders in that lobby. They
were second their second race in Pro league, running mad
Baggie every game. They don't do the macro. They just
fight literally everyone they see and going into losers.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
They you know, they're putting out hits.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
They they're like, hey, you know, we're throwing free wins
to anybody that takes out Lonely Let Gone. They're mad
and it's and it's all them, Like they couldn't play
their game because Lonely let Go.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
On every game and they just them.

Speaker 6 (21:26):
I was curious too when I saw that they were
laying in there. I was like, I'm curious if they
go watch where Falcons lands. Yeah, and then that second
game they love to try to get a pick if
they land too wide, and exactly what happened. They pick
wals And I was just like, dude, just watching them
play in apaxtyle, I was like, they fear nobody. They
got shoji. That is an insane fraggery. Second in the

(21:47):
world during Pro League with fifty kills in twelve Pro
League games. And yeah, I mean they just I got
the chance to be like kind of by them. Their
booth was kind of by us when we were playing
and I mean you talk about a team that has
a ton of and a ton of colms just as
always fighting, and like that's that team. So like as
soon as I saw it there by Falcons, I was like,
there's a I didn't say guarantee it, but like there's

(22:09):
definitely a possibility that they could get somewhat grief that
they weren't careful and it seemed like they weren't and jump.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
But to your point that you had said being Donnie
talked about that on the preview show of It's gonna
be hard to kind of switch your mindset from those
first couple of days, because you're gonna go from those
first couple of days being like, Okay, this is a
little too easy for me. And then when you do
get into like that next level lobby or a lobby
you're not expecting, it does sneak up on you.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
When you're just one day it was this.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Level, well did the same thing. They had. It wasn't
the end of their set, but last night they had
I think sixty four points and fifty one of those
points were from kills and I saw him lucky. We
were both in the bathroom same time as we're coming out.
I was like, how many kills you got out of
your points right now? And he was like laughing. He's like, yeah,
fifty one or sixty four, he goes, dude, he goes, Honestly,

(22:58):
we're just ending everything. We're just running separately, and I'll
be streaming on me, on me, and then we'll all
send it. It goes There'll be four teams there that
we're not expecting and we'll die for it. So that's uh,
like that's what I think Falcons thought the same thing
would happen. It was just like, there's also i think
their first group, so you can do that in those groups.
It's basically yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Just something that we wanted to highlight.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
So other than Falcons, there was also gaming gladiators who
kind of went down early.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
I think one hundred thieves went down early. There was
the moment one.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Hundred the winters practice. Yeah, one hundred these is balling out.
I saw them in the pit and I did not
know they're they're in the pit because they're on the stage,
but they're on the second Winter Stage.

Speaker 6 (23:43):
At the same time watchers making stage.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
I remember.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
But it's not just one hundred and nine points in
second place was seventy four and the third place was
fifty five.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Oh okay, okay, a hundred points on game five, Yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
What I was gonna say. I heard, like Jay told
me game five hundred points, which is hilariously dropped nine
in their last game, but yeah, what was it a
twenty kill win? Yeah? Just they're balling out, you know there?
Honestly are they? Like we haven't seen much of the
B stage gameplay, but for the guys who have been there, Like,
because I know you two have been in that area

(24:17):
for a lot, are we thinking that they're kind of
like the best looking team right now? Like the hundred tea.
It was three back to back whens.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
Win in game three with eight kills, win with twenty
in game four, win with ten in game five. In
game one was a second with eight, Game two was
fourth with four. Is their worst game was game six
tenth or ten? Yeah, tenth with seven kills.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Like, I don't know if you guys have seen anything
from them, but like Johnny Burke, like, yeah, are looking
like the best team out here?

Speaker 6 (24:43):
I can't say with like one hundred percent certainty, since
like I haven't been able to watch as much because
I've definitely gotten a lot more involved with the points
that I thought I was going to be. But definitely,
I think they're one of the top three teams right
now for sure, across any of the teams at the
tournament right now, which is funny because probably one of
the other ones would probably be except the moment. But yeah,

(25:05):
I would say definitely of the major names, like one
hundred Thieves is potentially the most consistent across it. And again,
I don't think it's any really big surprise, but like
it is cool to see the chemistry of those guys
come together. Well, Like, again, it's all past Land champions,
so again we can say it's not really a big surprise,
but given that this is their first Land, it is

(25:25):
quite impressive how well they've played. It seems like they're
getting better too at every stage.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
Can we talk about energy?

Speaker 2 (25:31):
I was gonna say the next thing, chance you said
like top teams and like we're saying, like a hundred Thieves,
I was gonna like energy because we've got to see them,
and then I don't know how Shopify is doing. But
that's the next one that you'd kind of be in
your head. But like, yeah, I agree Energy go ahead.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
So they they placed. I'm trying to find their first lobby,
their first lobby, which you know it was round one,
so but.

Speaker 6 (25:52):
They got second place.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
Then their second lobby, the one that to Quahawks won,
they got fifth, and then the recent one that we're
hyping up to Kaha where they got fifty one points. Yeah,
Energy one seventy two points.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, they dwarfed them.

Speaker 5 (26:04):
They had a sixteen kill win. Game one, they had
a second place with seven kills. Game two they had
eighth place with eight kills. Then they had a fourth
place with five, a sixth place with four. So they're
getting like consistent inside like top eight. They're getting consistent
kills throughout all of them. Like I said earlier, they're
the only team in that lobby that I thought actually
handled toward Aholics when they fought them. Yeah, Hollis tried

(26:25):
to kill them and then they they got a res
and just clap back and destroyed them.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
So they have consistently had mythic weapons, like yeah, Timmy,
I feel like it's had a craber at least four times,
had a bow check once. I saw Yanya had a
bow check once, Like I don't know they're just always.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Do you know what their comp is.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Because I know, like I say, a lot of ballistic.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
Yeah, I mean, you have two ways of getting like
these pack weapons.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
If you're playing to.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Be fair, there's that and then but to be fair
also too. In like like once in the last most
recent set, they were so far ahead, like they were
gonna call right, and it started just you could tell
their confidence was so far up that they would just
challenge me for mythic bins. Yeah, because it was like,
well why not, Like if we lose, what's the big deal,

(27:17):
Like we're gonna call like, yeah, maybe our draft isn't
as good, but like it's still good. And so like
they just like you know, Nave is trying to fight
them for a mythic bin and they just don't back off,
and Nave has to back off because Novi's in thirteenth, right,
So like they just bullied them away. So there was
a little bit of like that confidence in their placement
from doing good earlier. But yesterday, I mean, it's harder
to tell, but I just I don't know. Timmy had

(27:37):
Crab two games in a row, and like this dude
hit fucking three noscopes in one game one for the win.
So yeah, they start off basic.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
They go Newcastle Catalysts, Alter, and then I believe it
was Newcastle they got banned, so they went Altar Catalysts, Ballistic,
and then it was Alter that got banned, so they
dropped her. They kept Ballistic and Catalysts. They get banged
a Lore, then it was Bang Mirage Ballistic, then Fuse

(28:07):
cat Wraith, and then they close it off with Fuse
Wraith Bang.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
Because I was gonna say, in terms of getting access
to like care packs, Raith's the best legend in the
game for it. I mean, you just get to commit
with the portal, you get the time to loot, and
then you can just take your portal back, and you
also have your queue to keep you alive. So it's
like a really good like Ash can do it, Alter
can do it. Alter is also really good because you

(28:32):
just use your TP for those little gaps and then
you can have your teammate just sitting on the little
console to pull you back if you do get knocked.
But I was just curious about that. Bangs also pretty good.
I mean, as long as you have someone on that,
you're fine. But I think more so it seems like
they're just playing for the kills.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
Yeah, and they're like to talk about him is coming
into this land, dude. The amount of hate I saw
on Timmy was crazy. He can't igl to doing terrible,
just themember of people that were saying that they were
going to be like the biggest surprise to go out early.

Speaker 6 (29:04):
Yeah, they're gonna be.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
I think I said that everybody. I think I literally
said you. Actually, I think I.

Speaker 5 (29:09):
Did pretty much saying the thing that Drops said about
Yanyo when they dropped Yanya, which was that Yanya's like
countercalling him the whole time and they can't igl and
like everybody's just talking the energy over and over and
so then all of a sudden they come in and
they have not looked bad ever. No, they looked like
I don't think I've seen a single set where they've
been like in danger because they're popping off early and
then they just keep going.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
I mean in Pro League, like their most recent day,
they didn't they drop a twenty. They did really good.
They didn't really drop, but they dropped like a twelve
or twenty kilo winn or something like that, and that's
a big range.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
But I guess like so, I.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Obviously they do get a lot of hate just because
they're with the entire Timmy situation. But my thing was
just I wanted to see a little bit more consistency
because I felt like, throughout Timmy's career, you've had these
days where he can do what he's done today, and
then you've also had the days follow up where it's.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Like, what the hell happened?

Speaker 3 (29:59):
You get the eighteenth, the nineteen twenty, But now he's
followed it up with a great day and pro League
fast forward, he's had two great days back to back,
and these were not once again, these were the first
couple of days whatever, or the first day whatever, the
second day. It's like these lobbies weren't nothing like, it
wasn't just nothing. And you can see the swagger and
the confidence with them on stage and it's not like, Okay,

(30:19):
yes they're getting kp and kills, but it just seems
like every time you look up at the map, they
are in the exact spot they need to be.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
They're just taking the spot that everybody wants.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
If you want to disagree with me, anyone, go ahead.
I just like I don't think you would. I think
Timmy just always likes a high risk, high reward play style,
and because of that, people like have that whole narrative
that like he can't igel. I think that narrative also
started to with like last Land, he's igelling over design
and like they don't even go through. So Heron's like,
well as much as Design has like his moments were

(30:51):
kind of rages and everything like that. Like Timmy probably
doesn't have the you know, doesn't have the igl ability,
but I think it just takes time. Like you know,
the guy I can't see being uh, you know, he's
probably one of the biggest names, but also the people
who's played Apex the most in the world, and he's
obvious gonna have the knowledge. There just that high risk
Hygroword play style. Like you know, when they got a knock,

(31:13):
he's always singing it. He's not like sitting back and
so you know, in those moments where it doesn't work,
people think, well, he doesn't have it.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Well, even in Supporo you talk about high risk Hygroword
play style, they don't make it, but people forget that
that final game they almost did.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
They were like this close to get to be fair,
to be fair. What I've understood is designed did igl
that game, But I.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Mean, but I think that's the ability that he has though,
is like just.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Pure, yeah, undeniable, And like you know, Timmy's placed fourth
at the Land and then in uh in La, people said, like,
you know, he was like one fight away if they
they had to just find a way to fight reject
there and maybe they win, right, even though that was
a tougher situation than when they're in Birmingham. Uh Yanya
has finished top five at the Land. Gill has finished

(31:59):
top to it Land multiple times. Put those three you
put those three players together, and you're telling me you
don't think that they could perform, especially at an open
where there's gonna be like weaker teams, Like why not?

Speaker 6 (32:10):
Yeah? And I think, yeah, you just alluded to it perfectly.
It's like the agreients are there. It's just like, can
they figure out a way to mix it together to
where it works consistently? And I think we're seeing that
right now. Is like we have three players that are
on the same page, that are absolutely playing their asses off,
and we are seeing a team that is a top
level team that they can be. It's just do they

(32:31):
follow up again tomorrow? With these performances, or do we
see the over aggressiveness and the miscommunications that could happen
that we see in the past.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Yeah, And that's the one thing we talked about with
Energy was the comms. At times if you go back
and watch, like sometimes it can feel a little cloudy,
it can feel a little tough to understand exactly what
they were trying to do in the moment. Does not
seem like that's the case so far at the open
another team and another point I wanted to like, well.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
I'm just gonna check because I know Jay brought them up.
Was there anything like did you want to have specific
else you want to say to all that? No, that
was it.

Speaker 5 (33:04):
I just like when Reddit shit's on somebody for no.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Reason and then you get to.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
It's daring scrims and like, I'm not gonna sit here
and say that I'm like the biggest Himmi believer ever
and then he's gonna like pop off and win the
finals or anything. But then they're like, like he said,
people are saying they're gonna go out early, Yeah, and
they're just sitting here dominating all their lobbies and their
winners finals and they'll probably go to the finals through that. Yeah,
and I just think it's funny because everybody SCRAMs don't matter.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
I also feel like they've approached like maybe I'm I
don't know. I always think like there, maybe I'm wrong,
but like from watching their game play because they have
been on main stage more often than others, so I
haven't seen too much the size stage. But I don't
think that they've had that cocky style through the gameplay
where they're just like, oh, these are bad lobbies, let's
run them down. They've dropped big kill games, but that's

(33:48):
by just like playing their game still, it's not because
they're just oh, this team's shit, they're worse than us,
let's run at them. But it's a bad play, you
know what I mean. Like yeah, I mean I already
said it, Like guys are relying straight upset. They thought
teams are shit, We're gonna run them. They've got no
placement Timmy's team, like you guy said, they're always in
the best position. They're still playing the way they want
to play and macro and everything like that. They're getting

(34:10):
those good positions, but then they're using their ability to
out fucking frig the other teams.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
I was just gonna say I think one of the
biggest reasons that he receives criticism, which I don't think
is necessarily warranted, is just because I don't know if
this is intentional or not, but he has like if
you look at the history of his teams, he has
a history of being on teams with igls, but he's igling.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
So it's like, which is like, that's fine, right, and
he's like, he's proven that.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
He can IGL.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
But ever, you're he's opening criticism because they're not just igl's,
they're igls that have also been proven. And so I
think for a lot of those people that are like,
you know, they see design for they're like, we like
the way to design for igl's, he's not iglling. That's
weird to us, Like we would love to see him
IGL again. And then you know, obviously Yanya, like a
lot of people, Yani was.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
A great IGL.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
You know, he was always in finals and they were
always doing good in finals. And you know, now I
don't can see Yanagi now obviously they're doing really good.
But then to the other factor, and I think this
is just something we're seeing as a trend throughout all
of this open is that if you're not an aggressive team,
you're not succeeding in these lobbies. And a lot of

(35:18):
these really good teams are not prepared for that level
of aggression.

Speaker 5 (35:24):
I mean, I would disagree with that because VK Gaming
has actually been killing it the whole time.

Speaker 6 (35:29):
They don't get that many kills.

Speaker 5 (35:32):
Not I agree most aggressive teams, but I do think
there's a couple of teams.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
I would say it's more than a lot of these good.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
Teams weren't prepared for teams to play as if they
could roll everybody.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
And to your point, VK Gaming comes from a pack
South and they aggressive is running at them every pro
leg They're okay, So.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
But yeah, I think you're right. Like they're used to
play with ELG. They already know how it works.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
But you go.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
Into this and they're prepared for a lot of these
other teams. They don't have an LG in their lobby.
We've been fortunate enough to have a very similar, a
very LGY like team in our lobbies.

Speaker 5 (36:14):
But I do want to shout out by the way
their coach Whinny because she hopped on short notice, like
right before pro league obviously, and everybody's talking about the
I g ll ing and versus Timmy and you know
how they're going to work and the comps and all
this stuff and they're killing it.

Speaker 6 (36:29):
So absolutely amazing. Coaching has been insane. I mean started
from with the Serenity I believe correct.

Speaker 5 (36:37):
Ye to then guilt and and the key on that
to which you're about to talk about, every single of
those teams is changing. I g LS, Yes, Seranity was Bugy,
and the Guild with MT and then Phony and.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
All of them.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Did Serenity in l A not finished top ten or
wouldn't they finish the titles? They finished, they had the
they weren't point because they had the ability, they have
the ability to reject and then they just kind of die. Yeah,
but they were right there. And then obviously I don't Guild.
I think they finished what.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
Twelve twelve at Champs like but e w C they
were fifth and there you go.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah he's there too talking about.

Speaker 6 (37:14):
All that, Like you just mentioned all the different people
up coming and now the roster she's worked.

Speaker 5 (37:17):
With and Germany they almost won that ship too. We
talked about that.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah when you and my point is just a yeah,
she's like I fucking we met her in Japan, and
I didn't realize it was her. She was telling me
about that I looked like Vaxlon, and so I just
and it wasn't until like, funny enough, we were at
the Red Bull party and I talked to her again.
And it wasn't until I left that Red Bull party
and went was that fucking Winny left the party? I

(37:41):
think I got into uber and was like ship. It
was like because it would have been cool to like
try a little bit more about impacts and stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (37:47):
Yeah, she's an insane impact. It's not the hijack. If
you were about to transition topic. But speaking of coaches,
I gotta shout out my goat. I gotta glaze them
hot sick.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, the man that was that was the team.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
I was going to translate it out was transfer.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
I'll throw it to you. Then right after, Yeah, everybody
was saying that whole shit about Hudson Steel's paychecks and
Stallion's got what thirty ninth at Champs and look at
him now boys rated and weep crazy. What happens when
you add Hods like one of the greatest guy.

Speaker 6 (38:15):
No, yeah, I haven't been able to see it. So
I just dude, I want to hear.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
About it, honestly, God, Like, Okay, remember my point I
made on our preview, I said, when Alb went to Japan,
it was like, oh cool, this is fun. Nobody expected
nobody had expectations. Yeah, this time there was expectations, and
they have exceeded said expectations.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
They have been playing awesome.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
They've been playing great and not not only like okay,
they also bring the moments like you have Alb just
trying to get Kraiber clips, Like in the.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Middle of that bothered me. He already did one through
sixty and there's no way he's not well, maybe there's
a way, maybe he didn't tell them, but like he's
got one bullet left in that freaking craber and they
killed the last guy and don't let them go for
the shot. That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Yeah, no, I mean Twisted Minds has been incredible. Uh
fun fun story. In the middle of the day, we
were we were feeling down in the dumps. We needed
to get out, go to a bar and just hang
out somewhere that wasn't the venue for a second.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
We walked into this place.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Twisted Minds walked in right after us sat down nobody
served them, and they just straight up got up and left.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
It was so fun. They dropped walked over, they dropped
a banger set right, just like Michael Jordan like, and
that's all I needed.

Speaker 7 (39:31):
Yeah, I think that pissed them off. Some are saying
the bar sort of thing. They're going back to the
bar so hopefully knock. The media is saying they should
do it again tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
We're the media.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
They don't know that. Uh yeah, they should just go back.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
I feel though that twisted minds, especially with enemy like that,
especially with enemy uh took out your team complexity in
the end.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
There you guys want to You guys want me to
just spill my heart? Yeah you want to still? Okay, listen,
I'll be back. Uh So, sea's up Complexity. I've been
riding with complexity always.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Well, this is the new logos, the logos logo anywhere else,
the logo.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
No I was.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
I think my problem, my problem with complexity is that
when they brought Funk on, the one thing that you
knew they needed was a little bit extra KP. We've
said that, all right, at least I have when I
watched them. I've said that for a long time. They
need some more kills. They need some more kills, and
I thought Bringing on Funk was going to do that,

(40:45):
and I'm not.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
I don't know exactly.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
I'd have to go back and watch everything to like
fully know, but it's the project's not working. Like, it's
just not happening. They're not getting the kills. If you
look at their games today, they hadn't. They had great
placement most of the days, monsoons, getting there, getting them
to their spots and even going down into the final game.
It's just just not being able to finish off the

(41:08):
three v three And it's frustrating, man Like, it's so
frustrating because I, like, I don't know, it just makes
me so mad. But watching my heart get ripped out
in that final game where all they needed to do
was win that three v three, they get the first
knock and still lose.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
That they'd get it, Yeah, they would still get it
in because they were what four points behind.

Speaker 5 (41:31):
They needed two?

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Oh so yeah, h they needed to kill.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
So they needed three to surpass. I don't know who
wins the tiebreaker there. Yeah, so theoretically they've got killed two,
lose and win a tiebreaker. But I just don't know
if that was the case.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah, So I don't know. I just think that.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
I don't know what the the thing was with Enemy.
I don't know what their idea, their plan was. But
I want to go back to Twisted Minds because I
feel like I didn't talk about him enough but when
I talked about it.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
Just to back up your point, and I'm not saying
this to throw Funk under the bus, okay, but this
was an issue that I had with the original LG
of Sweet Slayer Funk, where Funk is supposed to be
the fragger, and I think he's an incredible player, and
I think he's a good fragger in the right circumstance.
But on that team at that land in LA, everybody's
blaming Slayer. And when you go to the finals lobby,

(42:22):
Funk was the worst performer on the team. And when
you look at this lobby that they just played in
shout out als for the new like performance stats, Funk
was the worst player of complexity. He had a point
sixty seven in terms of kills per game, where the
other two Kimshi was point eight three, Monthsoon was a
flat one. He had the least damage per game, so
it's like you're the controller player on this team. You're

(42:43):
supposed to be like doing that, like that's your kind
of thing, and it wasn't happening. Now, I don't know
the which there.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Were sposal problems. If you remember the beginning of then
psychs Funk was Sweet was it was it at eb
you see, I remember being in a land where Sweet
was doubling the damage of both his teammates if you
remember that.

Speaker 5 (43:06):
If it was the WC, was probably before the final.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Because the finals they did good, but they didn't make
finals in Germany.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
So I feel like maybe I feel like it might
have just been Laglayer.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Maybe it was Slayer. Maybe it was that that tournament
where Sweet was literally like Sweet would have like eight
thousand damage and then in fact, yeah, the two of
them would have four thousand and four thousand.

Speaker 6 (43:29):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (43:31):
And so anyway, I just wanted to say, is supposed
to be like the Fragger, and when I watched their
team and he's the one who playing like Ash and
all these characters, I just think he needs to be
putting out more damage.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
More kills.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
Yeah. No, that it adds to my point because what
I was going to say is, like you go to
that final fight and Kim She's opening it up like
that's not his role. And I understand, like, you you
take it, you take the Knox where you can get them,
But there's just been so many times where and I
don't know if this is something they've talked about as
a team, So I can't even fully go into it
because you know, who knows exactly what they're planning. But

(44:03):
there just seems to be a lot of times where
it's mon Kim she close, and then there is funk out,
like a little bit further than I would expect, and
then it ends up in either an early knock or
whatever of him, or somebody gets caught out because he
has to come back, they get a lot of damage,
and then it just ends up in them not winning
three v threes. So it's like, well, I don't know,

(44:24):
it's he should be doing that because he is the ash.

Speaker 5 (44:27):
The problem is if you're going to do that, the
whole point of you going out is to create openings,
and the.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Openings are not being created.

Speaker 5 (44:32):
Yeah, and so then all of a sudden, if you're
not creating openings and someone else creates one on you, Well, now,
like you said, you got to come back, and.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
How did they even go Well, you could continue what
you want to say, but how did they even go down?

Speaker 1 (44:45):
That's problem. I didn't And all of a.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Sudden one of them goes down. We're just like, I'm like, well,
the like there was a trade sort of with I
think Kim, No, it wasn't even someone like they open
it up, then one goes down. That's why I said
the trade. A trade doesn't have to be like at
the same time, he knocks on, but I knocked that guy.
He exposed himself, will catch him, not at least.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
From my view.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
And once again, I only watched it once. I have
not watched the replay, so I could be off on this.
But I see Kim, she get the knock. Yeah, and
then I probably two three seconds go by, and I
watched his health bar literally disintegrate into.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
So that's a trade, That's what I'm saying. Trade.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
But it was like in my mind, I'm thinking because
the way I saw it, I don't think he took
too much damage from the initial fight.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Yeah, but like so when I say it, it's like
he can't get that kill, but like it might expose
himself a little bit where the other teammate kills him,
so it still can trade because you're trading one for
one kills and that could be fine because, like you know,
as long as his other team is prepared, like I
knocked one when the two v two, it could be good.
A trade could be a valuable thing sometimes, especially when
you're the opening fight, opening aggressor of the team. It

(45:53):
was just when Funk went down, when that happened, we
were watching one Soon and I was just like, wait,
how there should be no reason this situation that he
went down because the trade happened. Here, now function sort
of be playing with Monsoon. How is he just getting
down alone?

Speaker 1 (46:06):
And then it ended up being Monsoon on the top
of the spot.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Was it a one v one?

Speaker 1 (46:11):
No?

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Because they also do they had two reds purple and
Mon's got a p K. So especially if fucking you
just traded and it's a two v two, you play
close together and you just wait until mon can get
an opening crack. Because the PK he hit a guy
while falling off the fucking pole and hit him for
one hundred and eight without even trying to aim like
that PK turns fights around him.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
It's not just that it's that they literally had high
ground as well.

Speaker 5 (46:34):
Okay, so I'm rewatching it back. So Funk actually is
the one who goes down, but to his credit, he
does create the opening. So because complexity gainst the first knock,
what happens is Crook from Twist's minds is on the
hype the dildo as they call it. Yeah, and Funk
ash tps up their solo cracks him, so he drops

(46:56):
off right in front of Kimchi.

Speaker 6 (46:58):
Kimchi kills him.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
Okay, so he's created the opening, but I don't know
what's happening on the tower because we're watching from Kimchi's perspective.
He is for some reason cracked and drops down and dies,
and so I'm wondering Albert Eli and enemy didn't like
chase him up there. They're far away, so I don't
know if it was a sky and aid that knocked
him off. I have no idea, but he's cracked, falls down,
then enemy kills him, and now we're in the two

(47:19):
v two So to.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
Kind of even without seeing it, just the assumption is
like with the ash nerve, you see, it is so
easy to punish someone out of an ash TP. Right now,
you come out and you're literally just standing still in
front of people for like a second. So well, I'm
just assuming that that they literally probably just had shots
on him.

Speaker 5 (47:39):
Well, but that's the thing though, he tped up to
the tower, and based on the side he was on,
I'm assuming it's the it's the opposite side of where
they were, right, and so that that's what I just
I don't know, Yeah, I mean I don't know where. Well,
I guess I can back up right there because I
think it showed him for a second, but but Monsoon
goes up there after him, So now it's a two
v two and when mon goes up there, they know

(48:02):
where kim She is and they both just ate Kimchi
down low and kim She dies before Mine can like
drop down an.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
So yeah, it sounds like more of like just the
whole team kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
I know, I'm not saying.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
I just thought bringing on Funk was going to open
up more for them, because when when I heard about it,
I was very excited because I'm like, Okay, this is
where we're going to start getting some of those kills
that we need, and it just hasn't happened yet, and
and it could be a lot of different factors. I mean,
obviously they had the coach thing happen, like that's probably something.
And when that coach thing was going down, like Funk

(48:34):
wasn't on Mond's side for sure, like in that entire debacle,
like it could be there's just they're just not.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Let's be real fun been on his side for the situation.
We don't know about the whole I will say this
situation in game.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
We don't know about like the coach I went back
and watched their VODs that the week after that happened,
and it seemed like they were very like cohesive and
like the way we're going back to.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
The situation, we don't know what like the coaching dynamic
would side Funk was on, but like the situation is
different than that. But I don't know. I know we
got away from Twisted Minds. You wanted to talk about
twisted mines, but.

Speaker 5 (49:07):
Yeah, just just finalized the point real quickly on the desk,
I think it was Jamberson did say that he had
talked to Monsoon, and Monsoon was saying that it's really
nice being on land because they felt like online there
was just a lot of like things they couldn't iron
out between Kim Gree and Mount and then Funk with
him being new and they feel like on Land they've
kind of started to figure that out. So it could

(49:27):
just be as simple as they still have things to
work through, but they just don't have enough time.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
And yeah they're not out.

Speaker 5 (49:33):
Yeah maybe they you know you figured out to leave.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
The discord online in person?

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Yeah, yeah, which discord we should like like finish Twisted Minds,
but at some point we should talk about that Eland
bracket because we're talk about that winners bracket, but that
Elan Brackett might be harder. I don't know, I haven't
seen all the teams, but there's some crazy teams that
are done you Twisted Minds.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
Yeah, yeah, I just wanted to finish my thing with complexities,
like it's not done for them. They're they're obviously my
team is not done for them at all. I'm just
saying some of the problems that I have seen, and
I think they can still come together and fix it
because the talent is there, the abilities there. We just
got to get to it, and they literally were in
one final situation to move forward. So it's not the
absolute most dire thing it's not like they got fucking

(50:16):
eighteenth or some shit and just didn't do shit the
entire day. They had a lot of good placement. They
just need to get a little bit more kills. Back
to Twisted Minds, Yeah, I just want to I'm just
super impressed with how Twisted Minds did and if we
want to tie it into what we were just talking
about before. Enemy has been a very solid anchor for
this team, and you can put him in a lot

(50:36):
of different roles, I think, and I think that's what
they've done here, because when I listen to Twisted Minds comms,
it's like it's very cohesive, it's very very fluid. It
kind of goes between everybody. And I wasn't used to
hearing Enemy as much as I did when I was
first listening back to some of it. But I like
the way they talked to one another. I like the comms,
and I like how they figured it out. And I
feel like Enemy's at his most confident right now and

(50:58):
it's really showing in the way they're performing.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
It's it's been it's been great to watch.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Who I jels this team as a crook Krook Crook
I because I was only asking because I think that
like in the past, like you know, when Alb has
tried to ie gel and doesn't necessarily succeed with it,
and I know for that purpose he wanted to step
back even if his crook crook has never had land
experience I gelling, right or anything like that or like that.

Speaker 5 (51:23):
I mean chams with.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Like yeah, but my point was just like, as you
were talking about Hods it coming in, I wonder how
much like his value has been to helping like a
relatively more experienced like I gl like bring him up
to speed and everything like that in a short amount
of time working together.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
And I mean, let's not forget ALB was on Team
Liquid with hotsig.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Oh yeah, sure, yeah, I didn't anyone knows.

Speaker 5 (51:49):
You know, how to get the most out of Alb.
It's probably hot.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
So yeah, I didn't think about that back then. Yeah, yeah,
that's such a good point.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
No, it's been that that.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
That was another team I wanted to highlight just because
it was one of those situations where I'm like, before, cool,
that's great, and now there's expectation.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
I was also gonna say, we can't on this podcast,
We absolutely cannot skip this fire jerseys everything, Like first
of all colors, I don't know, I feel like some
people don't like the turquoise pink. I think it's fucking fire.
I think it's so good, gives you like a retro vibe,
but like it's.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Also just so sick color combo that you don't see
it exactly.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
It's not common. I think I think it's so good. Also,
I'm a big fan of like that kind of teal
turquoise type, like, fucking who's it in basketball? It's Miami.

Speaker 5 (52:37):
Oh yeah, the Miami.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
The vice is sick. Or then Charlotte when they like
the blue with the stripe, those are my favorite jerseys.
They're sick. So team here also too, you saw an
enemy red one pulled up that freaking plushy doll, which
I think is supposed to be some sort of a
brain that's sick. And then I have a hat in
the other room that I bought when we were down
at e W see what.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
They told us we couldn't have anything with logos on
an upstate on stage, including plushies, just saying that.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
I want to know, Team Nemesis had one and was
holding it up. They had them, was holding it up
team What is huge? Team Liquid brought out a horse,
brought what fusions plus?

Speaker 2 (53:21):
What is fusions plushy?

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Is it just like it's intasting. We didn't think we could.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
It's two different animals.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Just you didn't like.

Speaker 5 (53:31):
The Fusion dance.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
That would be remember that that would.

Speaker 5 (53:42):
I still think might win Land. That's a championship.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
That is a championship celebration. The most championship celebration I've
thought of though. And if I'm never going to get
on the main stage, but if I ever get a
chance to do anything, and and I get the chance
to win a game, I think it would be hilarious
if all three people pretended to be asleep when the
camera flashed onto you, and then the guy in the middle,
he like pretends like he just got woken up, so.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
And like slaps both the other guys wakes him up.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
My thing is there's a Pat McAfee story where he
said he was going to get a touchdown and then
he was going to pull a handkerchief out of his pocket,
go into the camera, make the handkerchief disappear. Raf throws
the flag, He picks up the flag, puts his hat,
makes it disappear. So the ref has to throw a hat.

(54:30):
He takes the hat, puts the hat on, looks in
the camera, goes to the ref, where's the handkerchief? And
that they were gonna have to kick like a forty
yard field goal, and fucking Adam Vinteri was so down
for it. So if there's any sort of way where
you could like essentially get a penalty because your celebration
is so good, maybe instead of one person standing on
the desk, all three of them standing on the desk,
because I know how much they fucking hate that. Yeah,

(54:56):
I know. I In our video, we had such a
cool shot of Hiarca getting up and standing up on
the desk like this to freaking the crowd while Stevas
and Zadan are just hugging and the framing is so good,
and me and our editor are like, just like, this
is an amazing end, and they're like, right at the end,
they go, we gotta take the like they we had

(55:18):
to take one of the thing out when something happened,
and me and the guy look at each other and
we're like, that's okay, we could we could deal with
taking that out because we have that last clip and
then all of a sudden they go, we gotta take
that out, like what they need standstill much sucks. So anyways,
that's a long story to basically just say we need
something like that. We need somebody like where like where

(55:40):
it's like they're just actually hold.

Speaker 5 (55:42):
On Bill's Mafia, bro. Somebody gets on the desk and
just body breaks.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
On the side stage.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
It would breaks like a match point finals or something.

Speaker 6 (55:57):
Might be meet tomorrow night if we end up making finals.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Tony rushes, get that Donnie rushes and dives over the stage.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
Okay, So me and Jumble were walking to the bathroom
and we had a listener walk up and say what's up,
and he told me this.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
It was huge.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
He said, Empire won a game and had a DAPT
that like just ricocheted off the walls inside the building.
So keep an eye on an Empire. I don't even
know if there's still he champions.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
So I saw the DAP because I was seen this
sitting here.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
And then there's the team on the other side, which
shall not be named, And then there was the then
there was the other.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Who was that we're not gonna name because they're not
gonna get don't.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Get into it.

Speaker 5 (56:46):
I'm not gonna get want your.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Name across us is empire over here, right, And they're
in the winners.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
We hear their Game six, which is on our game
three because of like an hour long pause which I
also won't get into.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Don't get into, we'll get into it.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
They start cheering. We're like, oh, they had a big
win or some shit. They're celebrating crazy, great celebration.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Turns out they didn't win. They just got nineteenth in
that game.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
Waited the entire game and figured out that they got
tenth by a hair and so they were celebrating calling.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Oh you're telling you, they're telling me, you wouldn't celebrate
calling if you if you were nineteenth.

Speaker 4 (57:25):
But you heard of I could tell you you heard
the dapt. No, they were nineteenth on that game. They
sat the entire game just being like, yeah, they were
just huge DAPs.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
But the DAP you saw it?

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Did it?

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Ricochet? Ricochet? That's hot ship me And they're in Winter's Finals.
Keep your eye on Pip. I think the worst the
house on it that I've done everything, you have put
it all on.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
That worst thing I've learned that these last two lands
don't is that for some reason me and Wyatt cannot
connect on the DAP on the first drive.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
No, we can't.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
We can't, And I think it's it's on stage.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
Yeah, I mean it's it's just our angles shorter.

Speaker 6 (58:02):
Random side note, I will say, shout out to Chris
when we walked in from getting off the Fly yesterday.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Great Christ Chris, Me and Chris can DAP heavy, but
his hands are a little bit bigger, so I have
to cup.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
That's the thing is.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
I got a couple of the opposite side of that.

Speaker 5 (58:15):
Shout out Matt because when he was Mat and we
had the worst DAP ever and he goes, that's d
I missed, and I was like, it's okay.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Okay, wait, Famam Steel has an interesting question that we
could have exclusive information on because we got the omit. Honestly,
Coach I analyst here for this week. He said, what
happened with a forty minute pause when Arkan's PC broke
because someone was using a wireless headset? Like, do you
have info in that dom?

Speaker 6 (58:40):
So as far as I'm aware, because I didn't see
like the beginning of it happened.

Speaker 5 (58:44):
Context by the way, everyone Greek gave false information, believe
said go ahead.

Speaker 6 (58:51):
So Essentially I walked over as like this whole thing
has started. They were looking at rkns PC trying to
figure out what was going on. The pause wasn't for
his PC, the pause is for somebody else. There was
a headset issue. Someone mentioned something about being a wireless headset,
which not supposed to have it's supposed to be connected.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
So which I don't know why, but regardless, so.

Speaker 5 (59:17):
I get over there to prevent that ship But also
the real reason is probably because they can't actually guarantee
you're not listening to something else.

Speaker 6 (59:24):
Yeah, someone could be feeding you su.

Speaker 4 (59:26):
The rules they said, it can be a wire that's
just the charging cable, so wet I.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Actually have a feeling it might be. I have a
feeling it might be maybe like frequency stuff. With so
much tech in there, like Jay said, maybe it causes problems,
but go ahead and continue.

Speaker 6 (59:40):
But anyway, so I get over there and they are
investigating arkds PC like trying to figure out what the
hell's going on. They bring a second PC over. It's
already been like twenty minutes of a delay. Then the
second PC is not working, so then they bring a
third PC in and then they eventually figure out it's
like the SD card or like whatever that's called thank you,
and so they have to like put the new one in.

(01:00:03):
Then they have to transfer everything over onto the card
I believe, to get it to all like line up
to like his settings and all and his like idea
or whatever. So it ends up being what an hour,
hour and ten minutes of a pause. And then after
all of that, when everyone's like, oh, we're just gonna
like jump back into this game, because I think GG
was in like the middle of like a big fight
or something and had like a couple of months. Yeah,

(01:00:29):
they're in the booth next to us, and then they
like get ready to get in the game. Our can
is still not in the game. He's still like getting
all his stuff like configured, and then they just you
just see the match and you just hear GG just
I won't repeat what they said, but.

Speaker 5 (01:00:42):
I have a very nice start with the game then,
and the mask literally they because they started said that
he got the kill.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
Okay, so I need to givett I need to give
context this. For one, we landed quarantine zone.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
It was we got ring console. It is a dead
Center quarantine zone.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
We know exactly where it pulls if you look at
the map when it's frozen where we are.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
We are in like the pyramid building top right.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Quarantine zone, and then there's just a green circle where
dead center standing inside of it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
And so we're just sitting there like.

Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
We're gonna have a good game.

Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
Yeah, one kill, there's one knock in the feet. It's
just a knock, okay, And then they have this pause
for an hour. You can't get up.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
You're not supposed to take your head set off.

Speaker 4 (01:01:31):
That went out the window real quick with almost you're
not supposed to You're not even supposed to turn around, right.
What you definitely can't do is get up. We sat
there for an hour, and apparently that rule only applies
up to some people, because boys, they are great players.
But I saw lights stand right as he walked to

(01:01:54):
the bathroom, come to a dead stop across my next
to the piec's next to me, and just stare at
the computers of one of the other teams like this
for like and DG through the entire hour, back and forth.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Passing like every single monitor on that side of the stand,
and we're like, can I get up there?

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Dude?

Speaker 5 (01:02:13):
Like, like, well, apparently, how wasn't allowed to because he
put in the end game chat, just held my piss
for forty five minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
Except he didn't either because I saw that entire Falcon
squad walk.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
By too, So I was like, but at the end
of the.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Day, fine, he didn't piss. He just yeah. I was like.

Speaker 4 (01:02:33):
I was like, I was like, you know what, realistically,
this definitely should be a restart, since half the lobby
has went in the bath alone, seen every screen, but
we're dead centers. At the end of the day, they
do the countdown with full full thirty seconds and it
looks like there's literally just the game chat and it
says lobby will start in thirty seconds, lobby will start

(01:02:55):
in twenty nine seconds, and they just do that for
thirty seconds.

Speaker 6 (01:02:59):
Yeah, it goes.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
It starts for a single second, and then it restarts,
so we're like, oh, we're in it. Also side note,
if you drop your items, if you press the buttons
to drop your ms from the inventory while you're paused,
as soon as it resumes, it all drops. So Dan
on our team emptied this whole inventory as a joke.
The lobby starts, everything just flew, just would fly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Did we even introduce Burke by the way, we didn't
even say that. Yeah you guys did.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
I didn't introduce I said, you know, no, I mentioned it, Yeah,
I think so. And then I mentioned two corps of
Jack and Coke d BRO like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
I asked. I asked, trying to make it reasonable and
like it was actually probably one of like the the
nicest mixes of ever.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
That's not gonna by the way, shout out Troy, first
time ever going to land watching one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
He's enjoying it, bro, He's making calls, he loves he
loves the torque.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
A second question was the player that have wireless heads
that not using that during the previous day or just
not checked admins. Definitely, we're checking everything because I saw
I saw a hideouts. Basically say they checked bugging everyone's gear.
They're definitely everything was using a previous day. I don't
think we have an idea, we don't have that information.

Speaker 6 (01:04:20):
Yeah, yeah, but just a wild sequence.

Speaker 5 (01:04:23):
I'm going to assume yes, though, because I'm pretty sure
all the players have to bring their stuff and they
have to put it on a box and you can't
touch it, and you know that, I'm assuming that he was.

Speaker 6 (01:04:34):
In fact using that headset.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
The previous day.

Speaker 5 (01:04:36):
Well the thing is maybe there was like a chord
in there and they're like, oh, that's the cord for
that headset, and then he just wasn't using it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
But who knows. I mean, did you actually need your
own keyboard?

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Yeah, you need on the side stage, you had to
bring everything yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Well, like you needed. I don't want to shoot on
the land because I think this is a really cool. Yeah,
like there's gonna like there's one hundred and forty plus
team or something like that. There's gonna be tech difficulties.
We have technicalities every then, and honestly, the fact that
that is the only like big tech difficulty that happened
that one situation, I think it's pretty impressive. Yes, there's

(01:05:11):
been other delays, there's been PC swaps, but nothing that extreme. Honestly,
for how many like PCs they have at this event,
it could have been way worse, right, So I think
it's really cool. And like I know a lot of
people are like, this is scuff, this is shit. We
don't get to see all the povs obviously, but like
you're getting to see I still feel like a lot
more and then you would even see at a typical

(01:05:32):
Apex land. And then when we get stories like Tlkaholics
or like there was Team Orchid and like they're popping off.
I think those are cool stories, right, And the fact
that you guys are here, like, let's be real, you
guys don't have the opportunities that you guys got this
land without the open that it's a long story to say,
like I think it's really cool, And to also say
that I forgot what I was getting to. What were

(01:05:52):
we talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Special right there?

Speaker 6 (01:05:58):
This was like a thirteen.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
Were just talking about how there was only one big
technical difficulty.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Yeah, but right before that, what was they saying?

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
You said, I don't know, you just went off on
a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
I want to say, like, yeah, this this is really good.
But like with the I don't know, the wireless headset
bullshit in general, like you know, if if that was
like the only thing that happened, I just wanted to say, yeah,
I guess that this was really cool regardless, I don't know,
there's something specific.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
About the headsets.

Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
And I think, to answer your question, a lot of
people so because you had to bring your own equipment,
a lot of people only.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Had Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was gonna bring up the only.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
Just to return them after Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
One of the things that even one of my teammates did,
he bought, Uh, he bought a headset and then couldn't
use it because one it required a software to download,
which he did, but it didn't work because his IQ
shout out, IQ, you suck.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
I just don't course air but anyway, but but basically, uh,
they and like some of the most say they're wired,
but they just like have a wired charging cab dongle.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
But when you wire those headphones in with the charging cable,
I'm pretty sure you use the it as long as
it's a data transfer cable, which they come with. The thought,
which is what they come with.

Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
Yeah, it does connect because ours despite having the cable.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Dongle.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
So we were just like, well, we'll just use the
other heads that he brought, like, but he wanted a
good one because it was the other one was just
kind of shit. So it's like I'm assuming it was
probably a situation like that where he was like, oh,
well I bought this one.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
This is the only over here.

Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
I'm not about to not be able to play, so
I'm just going to put the dongle in and I
guess the computer didn't like it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
But what I was going to say, though, is that
of all that and that I think is really cool.
The funniest thing is when Burke told me is that
if you're a controller player, you needed to bring your
own keyboard, which.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
To log they started providing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
They started providing them, which I feel like they had
to have had keyboards because imagine someone didn't show up
with one, but like, yeah, you had to have your
own keyboard to log in.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Razer headset, which that's rockstar.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
I guess, because well I guess at the end of
the day. Though at the same time, keyboard mouse players
are bringing their own keyboard mouse, right, So do they
always bring their own keyboard mouse for main stage too?
So maybe even main stage, even those players still bring
their own keyboard.

Speaker 5 (01:08:22):
I don't want to bring their own mouse pads too.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
But I'm talking about like, if you're a controller player,
you bring your own keyboard to be able to control
the lobby. They don't. Well, on the B stage you
had to.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
But I just want to shout out because like I
feel like we've talked about most of the teams here,
I do want to shout out, talked, we.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Talked about, talk about almost all I do want to
shout out. Yeah, the pit.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
That pit is fucking rock star. That shit's so punk rock.
Like just walking over the pit and you just see
a bunch of dudes, just dude. Now, like you hear
every calm, you hear every single thing people are screaming.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
It's so sick.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
I love the that's the coolest thing about the pit.
I mean, I think most of us were I don't
know about you guys, but yeah, we're all kind of young.
We never got to go to those call of duty
no person lands and everything like that. And we've been
watching most of the main stage. But every time I'm
close to the pit and I just suddenly hear a
ton of yelling and then someone stand up and cheer

(01:09:20):
and everything like that, and you know, like, oh, that
team just fucking won a game, and like I had
like popped off in some sort of way. But it's
like it's absence of like that big sort of grand
stage crowd and all that stuff, which I would never
trade that, I would never give that up, but it
just it's it feels so like that feels like that
old school grassroots vibe that like was what esports was

(01:09:42):
built on.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
And that's why I love it because it's like you
get the option to have both.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
Like if you want the big grandeur, huge stage, pop
off all that, you have it. But if you want
to go to the fucking pit, you want to go
to the fucking pa.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
I think they also called it the pit. You know
where that came from? No. Uh, They'm like, yeah, like we're.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Down in the pit, right next to when he said
that we're down here in the pit.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
I'm like, so in the rehearsal they said, yeah. In
the rehearsal they said like, hey, like you're gonna go
over to like like Lace Ryan, you guys are gonna
be in the pit. You're gonna be doing this. But
I don't know if like the intention was like when
you guys get there, call it the pit. But I
think just because they were told you're going to be
in the pit, they start calling it the pit. The
guys at the couch say hey, we're going to the pit.
Because even like they have the headsets in their ear

(01:10:30):
and they'll tell like Rain or Glitter, like, hey, we're
gonna pass it to the pit, so toss it to them.
So it just I think I don't know if it
was like we're random, this as the pit, or like
is a p y on like King's Canyon? Like it just.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
The pit. It's badass. I love the pit. I do
want to shout up.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
Especially elimination brackets are there. So if it was like,
oh ship, dude, you just know you going the pit.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
You see the intensity like you you see like people
are fun, the coms coming out of the pit. Man,
keep kids away from the pit? Interesting, keep children away
from the pit because the oh.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Wait, Partisians and Chada said, we always called the non
main stage areas of lands the pit. That's Ben, that's Ben.
I just realized Ben's Partisians. So yeah, that's pretty cool Ben.
So I mean, I don't know, Ben, if you wanted
toss it in chat like I know you guys called
it that, but was the attention, It was the intention
to still make the broadcasters call it that, because yeah,

(01:11:31):
like the pit is just fun.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
I might start calling it the prominence.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Like I said, parts like I know that you don't
want to be there.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
Exactly who wants to be at the promenade? Shut out Finn.
He said that that's how you're supposed to pronounce it.
I called it promenade, but I'm gonna say that that
way for now sounds funny to me.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Yeah, that's really cool, bad, that's really cool. So that
means that he even called the B stage like back
in like uh, back in what's it called? Like Sweden
and thing? But actually I don't know if that was anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
I do want to shout out Donnie because today, like
Donnie wasn't allowed to be with his team, but he
was standing at the edge for legit like seven hours
today helping his team, omit go fucking crazy mode, which
they did. They did go crazy mode. They're gonna be there.

(01:12:29):
I think they're on Maiden stage tomorrow. So absolutely insane.
You were just standing the whole time. I don't know
how you did that. But also I was like, damn,
that's really cool because I think, like, honestly that you
coming with that team. I don't like they don't know
you that well at the time when they're like, hey,

(01:12:49):
can you help us out? I feel like you proved
to those boys like I got your back, I'm gonna
be there for you the whole time, and you were.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
You never left. You could have watched.

Speaker 5 (01:12:58):
The dude I told on afterwards was like, why don't
you just like go grab a chair or something.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
No, no, but wait a minute, wait a minute. I
when I walked with you, I know it was game six,
but there was four chairs there, three were empty, and
there was like you standing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Did you just not want to understand.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
When you were a coach where you for baseball? You're
the head coach, like third basic? What did you? What
did you do?

Speaker 6 (01:13:20):
Head coach? And I would never say I was.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
Gonna say you probably didn't regards No matter what coach
you said, I was gonna say you probably never saw
it anyway, So he's used to it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
It was just cool to watch man.

Speaker 6 (01:13:30):
Yeah, crazy, that's legitimately where I got that from. It
was just now I was telling people, I was like,
this reminds me of big coaching baseball tournaments for seven
hours and yeah, I mean the whole experience has just
honestly been crazy. Like I had no expectation of helping
them as this much, but they just have bass for
help with po I drafts or with loop pass or

(01:13:50):
getting information about certain teams in the lobby and things
like that, and yeah, it's been really cool. It's a
great group of guys and obviously they're fucking cracked at
the game. Insane to watch there. Yeah, it's it's been
an adventure, man, And like I know, I'll let you know.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
I'm just saying that they remind me of It's crazy
to say they remind me of this team, but it's
like they remind me of charcoholics.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Like you're just watching them run at everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
They're just twenty two kills since they dropped with the win.
Pretty certain. Uh you say pretty certain because I'm not
fully aware of what happened to Pit, but I'm pretty
certain that is tied for the most kills at this
land event. Yeah, it's pretty crazy because I mean, like
that was the funny thing when I walked up to
you and we were talking to Cody rkn like right
before Games six started Arcanes, like I had no fucking

(01:14:37):
practice out here. I was just walking do this and
we don't even care, no practice. And then after I
told them it was like, I think that's the most
of the He's like, we'll fucking drop twenty three right now.
I don't think you guys dropped twenty three that.

Speaker 6 (01:14:48):
Game, But no, we did not ye, but uh no,
It's funny because I was joking with the guys, like
after we got that big win, I was like, honestly,
it might have been good that we went through losers
today because this is probably the most Apex rkn is
played yeah years, So.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Yeah, like.

Speaker 6 (01:15:07):
I mean legitimately, I probably know more about Heat District
than he does, and he's the ideal of the team.
So like, it's it's definitely an interesting dynamic. And I
feel like at times I'm more stressed out than they
are and I'm not even playing, but like that's.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
What I saw.

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
So there was a game they were going absolutely dumb
hard and Donnie goes. He's talking to him, like what
do you guys want to do for this next round?
They're like can we go Revenant? And Donnie stood there
and in his I could see it in his face
he's he wanted to just be like, fuck no, but
he looks at him and he pauses, and he goes,
I would prefer if you didn't, and then he like

(01:15:43):
laughs and it was like one of those awkward laughs
is like I really want to say fuck no, but
I'm gonna say I prefer if you didn't. And he
goes I prefer if you didn't, and they go and
then they died so fast. So they died, but I
think they were like sixteenth, but it was early in
the game, like they were in a fight for like

(01:16:05):
three minutes trying to avoid this team.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
They were not going to avoid the team. They died,
and I like, I just look over at Donnie's.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
Well.

Speaker 6 (01:16:13):
They turned to me and they were like, we'll play bang,
And they played Bang the next game. I apprecially got
ted boys to like steal their spot. I was just like, yeah,
thank the fuck you guys actually played Bangalore.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Bro like, no, it's been fun watching the Omit Boys.
And then and then Burke, I do want to talk
about the Fusion Boys.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
Too, real quick, I before you transition. I was just
gonna say on that topic of the pit. So Ben clarified.
He said, it's just a name that stuck from years ago.
Sounds cool when we embraced them the broadcast, and he
said it cancapsulates the tough, tough aspect of being in
that space to compete, which is true. Like, you know,
they're smaller desks, the lighting isn't great. You know, you're
close to people, you have that yelling. I think that

(01:16:52):
like again, like you could kind of trash talk easier
where it's like when you're in those boots, your comfy
you're in, you're in closed space. You have a lot
of space like the wall. You can't see that out
of a team, so you know when you die, and
especially if you die to someone who's like close to you,
they're not really standing up. There was like Waltz like
walked over to a booth like two years ago and
that was a huge freaking, like fucking scandal. Whereas like

(01:17:14):
right there you can have a team stand up in
front of you and just point in your face. Kind
of cool and just sounds like fight club.

Speaker 6 (01:17:21):
And just like.

Speaker 5 (01:17:24):
Please bring back and test Ben, thank you, but just.

Speaker 6 (01:17:27):
A rab a couple of things for just like the
boys throughout the day. Like one, eighteen games is crazy
a lot in the day. Like yes, like I think
for this format, it's really unique and I'm not gonna
say like it's really bad because if you do go
into loser's bracket, like there's gotta be some penalty for that, right,
Eighteen games is definitely a fucking lot because Cody by
like game three, the last that was like I just

(01:17:49):
want to go to bed. I'm so tired, dude. It
was just it was a crazy format.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
But like again, like we ran dealgs, what do we
play twelve twelve in a day, but like with like
breaks in between. I mean actually one of our sets
we started within five minutes. But like the company, and
you got to remember too. The hardest thing is, especially
if you're not doing good, is like when you die
and you have to just sit and watch and you
don't get to keep in it. There's two things. When

(01:18:14):
you die early, you have to sit and watch all time,
or if you're a team that stays alive the whole time,
you have to be locked in for twenty straight minutes
the entire time. It gets exhausting. It's not like just
booting up your next ranked game. Yeah, it's it's tough
to play that twelve to eighteen games in a day.
I think it was uh, I think it was someone
like zero who said, because like at EWC when they
went those thirteen games, Nos, hackets, when you go those

(01:18:36):
thirteen games but they got to end zone for a
lot of them, it's like you're fucking tired. Yeah, because
you're twenty minutes, you're just like thinking as like as
best as you possibly can using all your brain power,
and you're just tired after.

Speaker 6 (01:18:47):
Well, I know, especially for like our teams too, Like
we played the first set, we're in winners. Both have
sets that like we definitely did not want to have,
so like we know the fact that we want to
get to Saturday, we have to play both the afternoon
and the evening after coming off a very bad first set.
Like it's a lot mentally to have to like push
through that and be like I have to prepare for

(01:19:07):
a long ass day, especially like when you're there, you
know the teams are getting there at eight eight thirty,
Like I was, like we saw when Burke left, so
like we know he got there early, and I know
the Omit Boys did too, So like it was, it
was definitely a long ass day. Like and again like
really proud of the boys are just pulling through, and
like I was, like winning the second to last game
just shows like how locked they were throughout the entire day. Yeah,

(01:19:29):
like I said, it's just been a great experience, and
I know I'm thinkful we were able to make it
through and not gonna getting easier tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
No, it's well I mean, yeah, the O mid Boys too.
They're kind of playing with Like, sorry, go ahead, can we.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
Talk about some other teams?

Speaker 5 (01:19:43):
I was gonna, yeah, just say we're kind of all
yappers and we've been going for like an hour and
a half and we'll talking about like four teams.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know you're good.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
You're good. Transitions about Falcons, we really have I thought
we did. I briefly addressed that they didn't care about
their set and they lost. That was about it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
Okay, let's talk Falcons. Then they bounced back pretty heavy.

Speaker 5 (01:20:04):
They did. But at the same time, now you're in losers.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:20:08):
The loser's lobby is pretty stacked, and so if you
have another set like that, you're done. And at best
they can get eleventh pick in the draft lobby that
you go up there their lobby tomorrow, which they did
win both of their e LIMB lobbies. Okay, they got
ninety eight in the first one and then they got
seventy eight in the second one, so they won both.
But tomorrow they have TSM nine Lives, Complexity, Nave, Aurora,

(01:20:34):
Liquid Envy, Zesty, Besties, Young Black, Rickey, Monster Team or
kid omit X and y, Gaming Gladiators areneb FWG Atlas
Heroes and Corinthians, So basically like Gaming Gladiators, Complexity, na VI, Aurora,
Liquid Envy like these are Land you know finals teams.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
Well, I guess the question with Falcons then comes down
to is it one of those situations we talked about
earlier where you just don't expect the shift from one
lobby to the next and the skilled discrepancy because it
seems like once they went down, they didn't really look back,
you know.

Speaker 5 (01:21:12):
Yeah, but at the same time, like they should win
these eland lobbies, right, it's not like that many crazy teams.
I mean, like the first one that they were in,
the second best team was Gaming Gladiators, and then after
that it's.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
Like teams.

Speaker 6 (01:21:29):
Well, two certain teams I got second and third in
the lobby one.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:21:36):
All I'm saying is make a make a Land finals
so then we could talk because.

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
I'm saying they got eighth place when we got second.

Speaker 6 (01:21:42):
Just for the record, I am kidding.

Speaker 5 (01:21:46):
After after GG, it's like, you know, I yeah, I
guess it's no offense, but it's like fusion O Men
or kid Reignite, like you know, these are the kind
of compared to all those names, Falcons should sit on
that lobby.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
And they did.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
Yeah, I guess the only question it's just hard for
me to elaborate more on Falcons, at least for me personally,
just because I watched them get first and first, So
you're like, maybe they just had like a stumble where
once again they just didn't expect to jump from one
lobby to the next.

Speaker 5 (01:22:15):
Well, it's not even that we have to analyze like
why they went, but it's like, now what because they
can't afford to have a bad lobby now and they
have that one, and then when they merged the next one,
assuming all the heavy hitters that we just named Doe advance,
then the next one they could be adding LG vertus
pro phase clan like and then whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:22:33):
Makes it out of the lobby obviously they already end. Yeah,
it's it's gonna be interesting because like obviously an ideal
where it would have been a lot shorter.

Speaker 5 (01:22:41):
And then even then that's not even losers finals to
be adding those, because then it's the top ten of
that and the bottom ten of winners finals. So you
get some you know, freaks like torkaholics. If they have
one bad set, come run at you as so.

Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
I guess the question then is they've stacked the cards
against them a little bit. Here. There's a good chance,
I don't even want to say there's a good chance,
but there's a decent chance that things don't go their
way with all the teams they have to play, and
with all the games of Apex they have to play,
which just wears on you after a certain amount of time.
If things do not go and let's just say, for instance,

(01:23:16):
they do not make a finals someday because they've already
they've already had the one lobby where they fucked up.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
Falcons.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
It's got to be it, right, I think, I think
they But like they.

Speaker 4 (01:23:29):
Are coming out of you get bottom ten in the
second round of a tournament. Actually a team is just
griefing you for three holes games and.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
Then you're trying to recover it.

Speaker 5 (01:23:45):
I know lonely that God did not grief them all
three games. I want to count at this point they
did one hard on the walls one but then they
just fought one hundred thieves the other two.

Speaker 4 (01:23:54):
But they don't know, like they're playing off of this,
like they have this thing they have to be hyper
aware of. It changes everything about their macro.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Like just.

Speaker 6 (01:24:05):
To game one, they didn't grieve them. And the thing
though is like and I'm like, I'm this is respectfully
as I can say. They have every resource to know
that Lonely let Gone will try to pull someone.

Speaker 5 (01:24:17):
And also they drafted any I g l should know
that it would be zero because you played against Roy
back in APAX.

Speaker 6 (01:24:24):
Out four years like I could tell you with the
hand typed out guys that I did that Lonely let
Gone will look at it for an opportunity like that.
So that's on them and their game.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
Well you can know it like at the end of
the day when a lobby but like got them reset
in the game.

Speaker 4 (01:24:42):
But this has nothing to do with that though, the
reality is that that the lobbies play out differently when
there are people like that in there every team. It's
not just it's not just Lonely let go On that's
acting differently. It's one hundred Thieves that's acting differently. It's
the Countdown team that's acting different We all know there
we were playing out a fisher. We are like lonelyle
gons here, which means that a sky Hook zone, which

(01:25:03):
there's a lot of Skyhook zones. We can't just show
up at Skyhook. We can't just show up Skywalk because
one Falcons doesn't like to co exist. So they're gonna
be running people down lowly that gone's there. If they're
still there, they don't give a shit about the zone.
That's assuming they even know it's there. They're just gonna
be fighting you like so, and that's not just there, right,
that's Countdown, that's Fisher, that's Landslide, that's Survey ATPI, that's Monument.

(01:25:29):
If they're in that vicinity, the whole entire end game,
like beginning to end game, is entirely different, and like
you can just throw most general Macro out the door,
because what do you do when this whole squad rotates
like west when they should have bent south because this
Maggie team is running them down and they had to
reset somewhere else. So there's just like so much different

(01:25:50):
elements that, yes, you can theoretically plan around, but there's
like a lot of variables. And I think that's where
like to workaholicsly gone, I'd say, admit, but I honestly
I don't think omit is, like.

Speaker 6 (01:26:03):
It doesn't matter what anybody else is. Didn' want to
run anybody, So yeah, like that doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
There's a little bit different, Like there's some teams that
just play that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:11):
The way that they play, especially if they're successful at
it changes the shape of the way those lobbies play
out macro wise. And I think that one it siphoned
a lot of KP from falcons in that lobby because
whereas falcons in these early lobbies typically are very kill heavy,
they just didn't have the kills to take. Like our

(01:26:33):
team and Fisher, we were gone as fast as possible
because we didn't want to get caught with the two
teams next to us that are super aggressive and Countdown.
I know that the one time Countdown did stay, they
died for it. So like these teams were trying to
leave because they know all those people around and that
costs falcons as well.

Speaker 6 (01:26:51):
The only thing I'm gonna say that and like I
you might be making the same point as I am,
so I won't take up too much. But like NRG
was able to navigate these lobbies, Shopify was able to
navigate these lobbies, the best teams will are figuring out
ways to get through these lobbies build on that.

Speaker 5 (01:27:05):
I think one hundred thieves got grief by only got
like on more in that lobby and they qualified too.
So like and also I'm looking back at like some
of these paths, like Game two actually wasn't even the
game that griefs and I think it was Game three,
like Lonely let Go one in that game died twentieth
So it's like you can't use them as an excuse
when they're dead.

Speaker 6 (01:27:22):
Yeah know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:27:23):
And like I said, like West Trials, the number one
overall pick, you're the super team and you're you have
how how is the overall kill leader in this tournament.
It's not even close. He has twenty more kills in
the next guy and you. So I just don't buy
that we can use Yes, this is Falcons, this is uh,

(01:27:43):
this was the game where they they.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
I want to thing, I actually don't know if they
I don't think they actually break up. I don't know,
because they're not doing bad in Pro league right now,
right and so like they got league to finish this, yeah,
have to bad? Do they have to finish pro League? Well? Yeah,
like they're they're like no, no, not two, two three,
they're two twenty three. They don't zero got zero got second.

Speaker 6 (01:28:09):
They have to play with like draw.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
But they just.

Speaker 5 (01:28:14):
Because there's just no way that like the ORG is
just gonna like buy somebody out the contract when these
guys get paid.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
What they Yeah, like I just I actually was thinking, No,
I don't think they do break up.

Speaker 5 (01:28:26):
They have to go to they're gonna go to the
mid season.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
I think they would. I think they would actually look
at it and like talk about the like some even
said like Hall already tweeted about the format, but he
doesn't like it because he's played eighteen games two days
in a row. So he's playing thirty six games so far,
and like long story to say, like, uh.

Speaker 5 (01:28:42):
That's not possible. Yeah, he couldn't have played eighteen wames yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
He will Yeah, okay, so he will eighteen games tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (01:28:53):
The formats coming into this, like yeah, exactly. Other teams
didn't have to do that because they won.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
Yeah, if you get topped ten, you played one set today.

Speaker 4 (01:29:04):
And no two sets today, one set tomorrow, that's it,
and then you're in matimon finals.

Speaker 5 (01:29:10):
And that's how it's always been too. It's like we
always know that losers bracket teams have to play more
games winners.

Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
Was there any other teams that you guys wanted to
talk about other than Falcons as well? Because I think
the tough part for me is I haven't gotten really
a chance to go back and look at some of
these other games. I was watching mostly main stage, so
I didn't even get to watch well sixty, let's do it.

Speaker 6 (01:29:30):
I do want to say just because they were bias,
I do want to shout out which I'll mess up
the actual name, so I'm not gonna say it, but
Straight and Flames, Straight and Flames team, it's won all. Yeah,
they are perfectly.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
Yes, they were in the pit the perfect means this
morning they.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
Check out Don's team, they were right behind them.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
Yeah, okay, but.

Speaker 6 (01:29:55):
This team is like built for this, Like they are
all yellers, they are all so into and passionate into
the game. And also they are absolutely frying. And they's
a team that was struggling in pro league. Like I'm
pretty sure they're in the bottom ten right now their
APAX South Pro League, and they are they got second.
I believe in their lobby and the winner's lobby, so

(01:30:18):
like they're gonna be Yeah. I mean they were finishing
like right behind a hundther thieves. I was, well, not
right behind, it was I was like thirty points or whatever.
Difference in our lobby.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
I don't think they did that well, weren't they like
in eighth or ninth or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
I don't think they're in the which the first winners
lobby when like you had dropped. Uh no, they were
like top three because they started or maybe they fell down,
but like they.

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
Started off, they started off hot.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
Yeah, they started off really hot. But their e district
which I missed some of the registrict games, were not
as great. I was talking to Strafing. He said they
just kind of sold. But he said that the reason
why is because the lobbies, in his opinion, just felt
so weird about the way they were playing, because just
because of the inconsistency with like the different and less
experienced teams. But they bawled out in the first three games.

(01:31:03):
They had that game where they jumped you guys with
the altar, and you said, they were kind of like
constantly peeking up and down then finally decided to send
you and they probably would have won that game if
fucking price he didn't fall off the cliff and then
have to queue up. But then his but then his
Q allowed the other team to push him.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
Push them, but that push sent us to losers. Also,
Price Mustache is fucking punk rock.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
Yeah, but yeah always, I mean I fucking punk rock's
been your word this week? Yeah, not just this week today,
good word.

Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (01:31:35):
But yeah, but I was just gonna say, I definitely like,
that's the team I've been extremely impressed with, just because
like I knew they had the ability just based on
again the players that are there play okay, Price, Straight
and Flame, but again they had not played well. You
know when they come to a land, Like obviously teams
can perform different land. We've obviously obviously seen Straight and
Flame teams perform well land before, but not really recently.

(01:31:56):
So like I didn't really have too much of high expectations,
but I got a chance to talk to their analysts
that they have, and they said that these past couple
days is subtilelying up to it. They had worked on
a ton of new stuff to be ready for this
land and it's definitely shown and it's They're definitely been
a team I've been extremely impressed with.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
So far.

Speaker 3 (01:32:13):
I wanted to talk a little bit about Orchid and
just because we had Rambo on recently, I had him
on the show. If you guys want to check out
that interview, go check it out. It was awesome time
with Rambo.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:32:21):
Yeah, just team Orkid. They're giving themselves an opportunity. And
Panic really is the story.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
Panic, like he is the story at the end of.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
The day because his first time being on a land
and it's not phazing.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
Was that the first set, Like I feel like I
saw him have it twice, No over twenty kills twice.

Speaker 3 (01:32:40):
I just saw the one I didn't see, which still
I mean the incredible, Like he's the story from this
And like Rainball, I think was half joking but half
serious when he said at the beginning of our interview
that he wants he doesn't want people to know how
good Panic truly is because he doesn't want him to
get poached. I mean, you talk about young talent coming
in and siphoning into the league. That's another place.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
Who'd I say that to. I looked at one of
you and I said, oh, I feel bad for him, Bino,
because Panic's gonna get taken. Yeah, because like if there's
an opening on like an a roster that has an
ORG behind them. Why would you not take panic, especially
now that his like name feels like it's clear being
at land right, like if you need a good fragger,

(01:33:24):
like that's your place to look. Yeah, so unless or
kid gets an ORG offer and he decides to say,
with these guys, if someone needs a member, they take them.

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
Yeah, that was that was the team I was looking at.
I'm just really impressive.

Speaker 3 (01:33:38):
But I mean when you have when we had Rambo on,
it's like you kind of want to keep keep a
close eye on them just because you like, you just
talk to them and just watching them do as well
as they've done has been cool.

Speaker 1 (01:33:47):
Yeah, not so, do you guys have anybody else?

Speaker 5 (01:33:51):
L G was absolutely dominating everybody and then just got
absolutely dumpster down on their last set other day.

Speaker 1 (01:33:56):
Yeah it's weird. Okay, So isn't that the same thing
with VP?

Speaker 6 (01:34:01):
VP did actually even worse. VP literally got like nineteen
and they were he was like twelfth VP.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
That's actually shocking at me.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
LG, great guys, twelfth.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
Yeah, they just have this like troll element to their play.
Once in a while, they just make a decision that
you're like.

Speaker 5 (01:34:19):
Yeah, okay, we'll to be fair that they do have
naughty on the team.

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 6 (01:34:24):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 4 (01:34:25):
We had a pro league match, a pro league match
where we it was final three squads they sent us
already know this moment.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
And then the third team walked up and they said,
oh man, why are we getting third partied?

Speaker 6 (01:34:44):
Clearly let that go.

Speaker 1 (01:34:45):
Squads left. What did they think that first squad was
going to do? What are they It's not it's not
a third bard. That's just endgame. It's pretty sure.

Speaker 5 (01:34:57):
That's like week one, and I'm like, that was very salty.

Speaker 6 (01:35:02):
That was how many weeks ago.

Speaker 5 (01:35:04):
I'm I'm like, I want to quote the words of
the world champion hi Arca, I will into you before
you into dead ass.

Speaker 3 (01:35:16):
And I was like, hell yeah, another team I want
to talk about is NAB. They also dropped down, and
this is a team that I think heading into this
I I would argue probably top three teams that you
think had the most potential going into the open just
looked really good. They had the craziest day in their

(01:35:37):
own pro league in the E m A, and then
things kind of I wouldn't even say things really fell
apart today. I think they were super close to making
it and qualifying on that final game. They just had
one misplay and it led to that.

Speaker 5 (01:35:49):
To be honest, I think the only thing that screwed
them really was just Game one. They honestly should have
won the game. They get to God's Spot super early,
but because they got there so early and they're not
playing Alter, they ran out of loot, so they couldn't
press up at all. And they they because they were like,
we're gonna lose all our bats and everything. We just
sit there and take damage, and so they can't like

(01:36:12):
force any teams any which way direction because the spot
they were in doesn't have a ton of cover, and
so they kind of just had to like be a
lot more passive than I think they wanted. And it's like,
I don't know if the Raith specifically like got them
to that spot, so I'm not gonna sit Was.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
That the one V one? It was VK versus Energy, right.

Speaker 6 (01:36:30):
It was the one over on like the far right
side by, Like I'm pretty sure it was one.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
I know Energy was in there, like I know Timmy was.

Speaker 5 (01:36:36):
Yeah, Energy was definitely in there.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
Yeah, I think they probably won that one.

Speaker 5 (01:36:40):
But yeah, no way, Yeah, I really just think it's
as simple as if they were playing Alter and they
got loot in that game.

Speaker 6 (01:36:45):
I think they're a lot more aggressive. They kind of
set them down win that game.

Speaker 3 (01:36:47):
They also they also had to pop o so early
because like you said, they had no cover, so they
had to burn.

Speaker 5 (01:36:54):
They had to burn and then zone push them off
of it like ten seconds.

Speaker 3 (01:36:58):
Yeah, so they had to burn a lot of ship.
But yeah, that they win that game because they had
the spot to win it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
They win that game. We're talking about them completely differently,
and that's at the end of the day. That's a
b R. That's Apex and.

Speaker 2 (01:37:10):
He did which yeah, Timmy Crab one of them. Yeah,
so yeah he did.

Speaker 3 (01:37:15):
Talk about which is crazy because Timmy j has a Kraber,
like like that's That's.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
The thing I'm excited to look back on at this
tournament is like, are you doing these mythic guns constantly?
Which I know is probably from playing on the edge,
but still regardless.

Speaker 1 (01:37:29):
Yeah, so Nave, that's another one.

Speaker 6 (01:37:31):
I do you realize that apology to make what I
said next was gonna be the finals team.

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
Dude, they're full out that one raised question no, because
he was I.

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
Can't get involved anywhere I'm in legal issues.

Speaker 1 (01:37:50):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
At this point.

Speaker 4 (01:37:53):
And they suffered at Land, we have to start raising
the question and like they're doing, actually.

Speaker 2 (01:37:59):
The goat because they were there.

Speaker 5 (01:38:02):
The only issue with it is that if you say
it's not matafe and then try to blame them, well
then what about.

Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
I'm not saying that either.

Speaker 6 (01:38:08):
No, I know you're not.

Speaker 5 (01:38:09):
But on the flip side of that, what happened when
he had Unlucky and Tyler when they had Hawkus they
almost won Germany.

Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
There's some sort of like like curse that's being passed down.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
Could be they for like some people that.

Speaker 6 (01:38:26):
Know Zephyr is probably.

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
Who was that? Who was that one Italian player?

Speaker 3 (01:38:33):
Uh, that's gonna be lost Italian player, the new legend Sparrow,
give me the number.

Speaker 6 (01:38:41):
One pick in the next.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
I'm suffering silence on that one player.

Speaker 7 (01:38:49):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
I feel like the other day was looking something. I
was like, oh, Italian player, and then I don't remember
not going to be whoever.

Speaker 6 (01:38:55):
You to get back on to get back on track next,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:38:59):
Yeah, going that one hurt because I hyped him up
so hard put it on. I had, like my wlcoholics team.
I was about to talk about the.

Speaker 5 (01:39:07):
Just the final behind on the LG thing, so to
bring them up, you didn't really talk about them. They
were destroying everybody the whole land, and I felt like
this could be the one time they maybe put it
all together. And I know that in LA they have
like a really good performance and they technically like hit
match point in the final game, so they never a
chance to close it out, but they did like finish

(01:39:29):
fifth or something. But even that Land didn't quite feel
because everybody was saying they were gifted zones right, And
then the rest of the year, I did not say that.
The rest of the year, they didn't really have that
like strong performance and like Champs, they didn't make final
stuff like that, and so it felt like this could
be the one they put it all together. And then
they fall to the Eland bracket right there in a

(01:39:49):
lobby where it feels like they should have made it.
And then the sucky part about it too is with
one hundred these getting one hundred and nine points, the
cutoff was only twenty nine, almost very low, and they
had twenty six points. I had that twenty six.

Speaker 3 (01:40:03):
I'm glad you brought that up because I did not
know the cutoff was literally twenty nine points.

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
That's not good.

Speaker 4 (01:40:09):
Important thing really quick, like the coveyat of like LG
was gifted zones. They picked Overlook because they knew about.

Speaker 2 (01:40:19):
There was a lot of north zonesland that was the
year last year.

Speaker 3 (01:40:25):
Yeah, that's another situation too, j where they could theoretically
have a situation where they end up getting bounced and
then team people are looking at them like this was
a complete failure when they were actually wearing really well.

Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
And then they just had two groups prior to that
they won both.

Speaker 5 (01:40:44):
They had a ninety seven point group in Group one
Day one and then winners Round two seventy nine points
and won that one by twenty three points, like they
were cruising and then all of a sudden that one
twenty six points complete struggle bus. They got twelve. So
it's not like they you know, we're just progating nineteenth.
But still, but when it feels like the cutoffs that low,

(01:41:05):
and you know there's probably like five teams above you
that like I can guarantee say, like LG should be
better than those teams that's all.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
Yeah, that's lots of competition left to go.

Speaker 5 (01:41:15):
Yes, yeah, they're not out of it yet.

Speaker 3 (01:41:17):
But there there is that just that setback though. The
one team that I will say that in our preview
that I kind of should on.

Speaker 5 (01:41:24):
On you saying that though they're not out of it yet,
but with the losers brack getting a sacked as it is, Yeah,
I know it's getting hard. There's a lot more, there's
gonna be a lot tougher if they couldn't perform in
that lobby. I now start to worry when there's the
Falcons and gaming Gladiators.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
Yeah, but if they're worried about performing in general, like,
that's what the finals are going to look like.

Speaker 1 (01:41:39):
And that's exactly what I was going to say.

Speaker 4 (01:41:40):
It's like this format is so brutal that you could
have teams that get in, you know, eliminated, let's say
eighty eighth place that is really uh, you know, top twenteen.

Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
Yeah, we're talking about interesting, but.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
You died in eighty eighth because the eighty eight would
have already been kicked on this today. Yeah, would you
say it was fusion?

Speaker 3 (01:42:04):
No, I was just gonna say one team that I
kind of in the preview, I said would probably I
could see them having like an early exit, and I
and it was because of extraneous circumstances. I mentioned Furia,
but they have been cruising like, they have been doing
really well, and so I think I just got to
give him kudos to that same thing for Energy, I

(01:42:26):
had just my thing with Energy was I just wasn't
fully sold on the consistency of it. And with Furia,
it was like, well, we had all this weird stuff
happening outside of the game, and I don't know what
that's going to do to translate when you get to
a land. But once again, it's like what you said earlier,
it's like you can't just leave a discord call in person.
You're in person, like you're right there, you work that

(01:42:47):
shit out. And I think that's what they've done. They've
done really, really well. And that was another team I
wanted to highlight real quick, because I don't even think
they've even had like a scare, like they have just
always kind of been near the mid slash top of
every lobby that they've been in. I remember in the
final set of the day, I forgot that they were
in the game, like I forgot because I'm focused on

(01:43:08):
I was so focused on complexity and some of the
other teams. Like I was watching char Alcoholics a lot,
and then I looked down that like the screen flashes
and it shows everybody's placement. It's like Fury a fifth
forty seven points. I'm like, what when did this happen?
I just didn't even notice it. So it's like, that's
kind of you know, where I've been at with Furia,
But they've been doing really well, and that's the team
I like to follow.

Speaker 1 (01:43:29):
That was another team. I don't know if you guys
have any more.

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
The Burke talk a little bit about his team a
couple of times.

Speaker 6 (01:43:37):
What about a Lions dding.

Speaker 2 (01:43:41):
So anyways, yeah, Lions, as Donnie just said, go ahead
Burke Burke.

Speaker 1 (01:43:47):
No, I mean for us, like we just we played
our game. This is one of those things I think,
like this this format is a weird first land, yeah,
because if you're a team that's played like, for one,
if you're a team that's.

Speaker 4 (01:44:01):
Played on a land stage before, there are a lot
of adjustments, right for one, like new.

Speaker 1 (01:44:09):
Equipment, you have to get used to the lights and
all this stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:44:13):
Our team was one that actually preferred the side stages
to the main stage because on the side stage, you
could use your own headset.

Speaker 1 (01:44:20):
You could use your own like in your you could
use your.

Speaker 4 (01:44:23):
Own stuff, and yeah, you still get your same keyboard
and mouse and controller when you're on the main stage.

Speaker 1 (01:44:28):
But then there's like like jam was struggling with a
glare on his monitor and that was just like I.

Speaker 2 (01:44:34):
Just have that.

Speaker 4 (01:44:34):
And then there's like the white noise that plays in
the head Yeah, they play around you. And so there's
like a lot of things that like for them, they
weren't a big fan of it. And then it was
like a lot more strict with rules and stuff like that,
like like what you can do and like, uh, where
you can be, and so that was a big adjustment.
Like they went from the size seage the first day,

(01:44:56):
which we had a really close like call moving on
to the next stage, because.

Speaker 1 (01:45:00):
We like there's a lot of nerves just being in
on a land that's like you've never been there.

Speaker 4 (01:45:06):
You're gonna use to the fact that like there's enough
new things with the side stage with all like because
you know, you still have to have like the in
your end overhead and all this stuff and then you
moved to the main stage the second set, and then
there's a whole new set of adjustments on top of
the fact that you're now like on the main broadcast
and as the set of nerves. And so for us,
we struggled in those first two sets because we were

(01:45:28):
figuring that out.

Speaker 1 (01:45:30):
And then moving into you know, the following one.

Speaker 4 (01:45:33):
We had found that groove and I and I was
telling them and I you know, I talked to my
team and I'm like, and halfway through because we had
secured a decent enough draft, right, because we dropped, but
we dropped in what was it eleventh or twelfth?

Speaker 1 (01:45:47):
I think you were got I think you guys were eleven, No,
something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
We dropped twelve or twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:45:52):
Yeah, so we went in with like third round pick.
So we so we grabbed like.

Speaker 5 (01:45:59):
Is the Mill Life in one or oh no, No,
the Old Town took Lava Fisher first round and an
old Town second.

Speaker 1 (01:46:05):
Oldish old Town. So it wasn't that early then because
that was yet there's law Fisher.

Speaker 2 (01:46:10):
I like, and you guys got like a couple of
good zones for fish, yeah, because you got double double skyhook. No,
was that those sets?

Speaker 1 (01:46:18):
No, we grabbed uh.

Speaker 5 (01:46:21):
It was Fish, Fisher, Fisher, the whole conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:46:23):
Definitely, Fishers went.

Speaker 5 (01:46:25):
World's Edge except for too. They took district early, Orchard
being one of them.

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
And then that was round that was the first losers round.

Speaker 6 (01:46:32):
Yeah, that's the round that forced you to losers. Yeah, yes,
that was a.

Speaker 1 (01:46:36):
Round of forcess. I'm saying in losers.

Speaker 4 (01:46:38):
We grabbed Fisher again, but we grabbed quarantine Zone because
we had a third round pick.

Speaker 2 (01:46:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:46:47):
Yeah, that was the whole delay and yeah yeah, and so.

Speaker 5 (01:46:52):
Like just for the listeners, because I don't know what
this means. What do you mean when you say third
round pick because it's only two rounds.

Speaker 6 (01:46:56):
He definitely said it wrong.

Speaker 8 (01:46:57):
He means third Sorry, just sorry, yeah, because I was
I was like, is this something we just context again
thirteen fourteen hour day and we're gonna say something.

Speaker 4 (01:47:08):
Yeah, So yeah, we have third pick. So we grabbed
q Zone and then we got Fisher. It was it
was a good draft, but the thing was like we
jumped in and there's still some nerves and the fact
that like they're expecting a pro like a pro league
caliber lobby and this is just not pro league lobbies
that you're playing in and so they're jumping in that

(01:47:28):
expecting like teams are gonna play in ways that makes sense.
There aren't gonna be teams that can completely roll teams.
So we played the first three games and it was
relatively okay. We were a little slow, but other than that,
like it was okay. And I came to them, I
was like, listen, we're going in a game four. We're
doing okay. We're not like doing terrible. I think we
got like a second place, and so we were sitting

(01:47:51):
in above the top ten. We need to get KP
and you guys are better than everyone in this lobby,
aside from maybe Falcons, you know, probably Falcons. I was like,
we I think we should swap because that It was
one of those sets where all the bands are you know,
you play on band, you play on the scrims, and
the bands go in these really weird directions where like

(01:48:12):
you a fuse banned round uns yeah, because they're testing
stuff out right, and so you're like, it's not realistic.
So you get to and then you get to the
matchday and it's like but one of the ones that
we had seen in the past is some assemblance of Altar,
Ash and Wraith being banned like directly in order, and
so that happened to be the bands that set and

(01:48:33):
it was just I think it went Altra, Ash, Wraith
and they all three got banned the first three and
so I was like, listen, like we have to swap anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:48:40):
I know, normally we swapped to Bangalore.

Speaker 4 (01:48:42):
I think we should swap the Ballistic because I think
that we can run down these lobbies.

Speaker 1 (01:48:48):
I'm like, you guys are better.

Speaker 4 (01:48:50):
We play zone and a lot of teams think we
can't fight because we play zone, and just the result
of playing zone is when you're prioritizing getting in a
good position, fights happened to you a little more often
than you'd like, and you're at the whim of a
lot of people.

Speaker 1 (01:49:03):
We've worked a lot to.

Speaker 4 (01:49:04):
Fix that, but that's a big issue, and so one
of our solutions was one of the things I want
to try there. I was like, you know what, we're
playing out a fisher anyway, we kind of flex this.
Let's play Ballistic and World's that's just a map that
you really don't have to worry as much about having
like to cross big open gaps. So let's try it
out and we dropped an eleven kill eleven kill game

(01:49:28):
that first one ye completely farmed. They were really feeling aggressive.
I knew from the second that they were just like
like Catwallace, we're pushing this team. I'm like, oh, this
is gonna be a different game. And we carried that
in for two games until it got banned.

Speaker 1 (01:49:41):
We play Bang. We won the last game and that
was like an eight kill win, and.

Speaker 4 (01:49:48):
They felt confident and honestly, at the last time, the
only thing we suffered with when third this last set
was we were at a really good pace, but we
had two doughnuts and that was it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:00):
And sometimes that's all that matters, and it makes the difference,
and it's there.

Speaker 5 (01:50:03):
They're one point out.

Speaker 2 (01:50:05):
Yeah, okay, I didn't realize you're not closed.

Speaker 1 (01:50:07):
We were one point It was because we the one game.

Speaker 4 (01:50:12):
Unfortunately, we were a victim of OMDST great game, which
was not their fault.

Speaker 1 (01:50:16):
Again, I can't there's too close proximity to the team
that's actually.

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
Dairy.

Speaker 6 (01:50:25):
But you had enough points.

Speaker 1 (01:50:29):
Give me some, do you want to.

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
I can't believe you didn't collude. I can't believe it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:35):
It's so funny.

Speaker 5 (01:50:36):
Why did you.

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
If I would collude.

Speaker 1 (01:50:42):
Yeah, that's why he's not.

Speaker 4 (01:50:45):
You think we would, because like we talked to each
other and then the players are like ranking together sayings
in our discord all the time, like I know, saying
pretty well subs for us.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
I would see you and do like like I would
tell my players, Hey, if you see this composition, do
like three tea bags, spin in a circle, switch weapons
laid down, like you get a reg gun and then
signed you get a ray gun. But it's also a
way to communicate to the other team, Hey, we are fusion,
don't shoot us. And then you just play six minutes imagine.

Speaker 6 (01:51:17):
To do the same thing and then when they turn around,
shoot them back shooting.

Speaker 1 (01:51:22):
No matter what you do, you just think it's really
never I thought that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:29):
That's pretty dirty of you, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:51:32):
But at the end of the day, but it was
just there's.

Speaker 6 (01:51:35):
No the bet slip integrity.

Speaker 3 (01:51:38):
They have CC experience. They just didn't come and know
it was gonna play like that. Yeah, well, I mean
you get you get this land under your belt. You
guys still have pro league to go back to. There's
still plenty of time left, so I'm I'm waiting to
see more from Ted.

Speaker 2 (01:51:51):
Did you just tell Bert there's more time left for them?
The bounce back probably no PROG not bad like it
was like I was gonna say, I un fortunate to
break the news. He didn't know.

Speaker 4 (01:52:04):
What I'm trying to really work on now is like
our team is a good fighting team and we have
shown in Pro League already that we can get h KP.
We like are actually doing really well with kill points
in in Pro League, and I really that's been my
main goal with the team so far, is to show
that we're not pushovers.

Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
We play zone.

Speaker 4 (01:52:23):
That doesn't mean that we can't beat any one of
these teams in this hobby. We have Jansen, insane fragger.
Dan used to be a fragger. Now he's at JL,
but he still has that. And then Trevor will kill
you no matter how far away you are.

Speaker 2 (01:52:37):
He was born with one of the most insane snipers.

Speaker 3 (01:52:39):
Literally, those they were talking about they were talking about
him on the main stage, like the casters were talking
about his DNA like he was born and his DNA
wasn't shaped like a ladder, it was shaped like a
sniper rifle.

Speaker 1 (01:52:52):
They said.

Speaker 3 (01:52:55):
Like that.

Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
It was one of the first games.

Speaker 5 (01:53:01):
It was so we didn't talk about on the desk,
staring no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:53:04):
It was like as the game was going on.

Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
Yeah, no, it was while that's so funny. I actually
think it was on set. Yeah, yeah, it was something.

Speaker 3 (01:53:17):
It was something about his DNA being intertwined with the
sniper rifle, which is fair. It's fair, it's fair, all right,
boys and girls. I feel like we've talked about enough.
We still have a whole nother day Tomorrow. We'll probably
be back tomorrow with another episode going through all of
that stuff, big big lobbies, big big implications, and probably

(01:53:38):
some very big storylines. There's gonna be some teams that
don't make it that we're gonna be questioning and really
expected to make it. And then there's gonna be some
teams hopefully I hope that nobody even thought could make it,
but they do, so it's gonna be really exciting. Thank
you guys for tuning in O as always, we really
appreciate your time. And then also thank you guys for
walking up and saying what's up and hello to to

(01:54:00):
all the boys. It's always great, always makes me feel good,
So I appreciate all of y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
Unless you, Brian, unless you're Brian.

Speaker 3 (01:54:07):
Actually, shout out to the one listener who shouted out
the throw.

Speaker 1 (01:54:12):
I mean the throw wasn't the throw.

Speaker 2 (01:54:16):
We are going to bring it up. That hilarious all
the heart to heart.

Speaker 6 (01:54:21):
And yeah real quick shout out to the Orgo Mitt,
the owners that some of the product managers have been
texting me non stop asking for updates. Very in tune
for somebody that only signed a team like a week
ago to the land like, how did they seem to
be in trying to grow an APEX team? Hell yeah, baby,
appreciate the appreciate the vibe.

Speaker 3 (01:54:40):
Shout out a Mitt, shout out the boys, shout out everybody.
Thank you guys for tuning in. As always, we'll catch
you guys tomorrow for another episode of the Apex.

Speaker 1 (01:54:51):
Can you hit that Bunny?

Speaker 6 (01:54:53):
This is so awkward that we said

All Episodes

Episode Transcript

Popular Podcasts

New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce

Dateline NBC

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

.css-15opob5{left:0;position:absolute;top:0.8rem;} All Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}The Open: Day 2 With Jhawk & Burke

Episode Transcript

Popular Podcasts

.css-r6mb8g{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:1;overflow:hidden;}New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce

Dateline NBC

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

All Episodes

The Open: Day 2 With Jhawk & Burke

New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce