July 3, 2025 • 31 mins
Actor Kevin Wayne IMDb joins the ladies to talk about his upcoming documantary that will be in the Song Theater as well about his career as an actor!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi. On today's episode, we're talking to Kevin Wayne, the
One and Only about his documentary's upcoming documentary and all
the things, and we will be sharing our wrestler wrestler names. Kevin,
that's a surprise for you.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Stay tuned, Welcome to conversations with Creative.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
And today we have mister.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Kevin Wayne, the One and Only, the multi talented.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
What do we say, the multiverse? Heaven?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
We're talking to Kevin Wayne, the multiverse.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
He does it all? What doesn't he do?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
But first we have to ask very important that's very important, Benjie.
What is the very important question of the day.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Very important question, Kevin, is if you were a wrestler.
And I feel like you've probably been a wrestler at
one time in your past life.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Okay, okay, I just acted as a wrestler.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Well, okay, if you were a real wrestler, what would
your wrestler name be?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I think we'll let you fake when we share ours. Yes,
I actually ours.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
The other day I fell asleep on the couch and
I woke up and wrestling was on.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
So this is.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
This is how it came to me. So my wrestler
name is Danny the Hammer.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
MM hmm. And I and I actually just throw nails
at people. That's the thing that I do.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
And then all the people in the audience who love me,
they bring like those inflatable hammers and like shooting them around.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Danny throwing nails at people.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Also nails hammer because because you hammer nails, I know,
but ship, but you're the hammer. Yeah, and I'm gonna
nail them Okay, got it?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Got it? And also we're a tag team. We are
we're Italian names.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
So, and I am the Belk, the white Chocolate Thunder.
Well le bel Bell is the formal name of me.
I'm just white Chocolate Thunder. But I can't be chocolate Thunder. Didn't. So,
(02:26):
now that you've got these great names.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Gosh, I don't know. I should have to think about
it because it has to be cool and you know, yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Okay, maybe you will know by the end of Let's
come back. Okay, So get to think while we.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Ask him questions.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
You will you get it?
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Yeah, because I'm so you know, I'm so, I'm creative.
So I've got to really I can't just throw that
out there time.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
It's gotta be cool, yeah, exactly to match your coolness,
and I feel like you could really be a wrestler
in real life.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
I talked about I thought about doing that at one time, Like,
but you know, you would go to Atlanta and you
would try out for them. I think I forget what
t T thing it was. I thought about doing that,
but so many of my friends, you know, they're legitimate.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
They would get hurt.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, but it'd probably be better when you were a
little bigger. You've you've lost quite a bit of weight.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Maybe if you're smaller. You're not very tall. So we
had to put him like you know, he's sitting a
home book. Yeah, phone books.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
So that okay, mountain Man, that's.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
It, Mountain mountains.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
That's perfect.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Bear I could wear overall.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
These are like sidekick, and that comes with us sometimes
our surprise, Like.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
I just carry a club like this club, like I
love it, like a little like a little that out
of a log.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Oh yeah, oh that's cool, Like sitting on your cabin
porch in the mountains, blowing in your jug.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Yes, like mountain man.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, Danny the hammer, white chocolate thunder and the surprised
guest goes out, guess mountain Man.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Yeah, mountain mane. That's it.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I don't think people are going to try to get
us to be wrestlers now, yeah, probably we have other jobs.
This isn't all wrestling podcast now, Okay, awesome.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Now important thing.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Now that that's out of the way, let's talk about
a documentary oka.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Or talk about really who is Kevin Wayne? Who was
who was Kevin Wayne? Did he come from? Where did
you come? What's your gets started? What's your villain origin story?
Speaker 5 (04:42):
How I got started? I was nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
I was trying to be a model, okay, getting worked
out because I was too big, you know, to be
a model you got to be getting to like a
forty two regular coke just unrealistic enough.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
And Iculo.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
I was like, even at twenty one, I was in
you know, it was a fifty two extra long.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I would prefer a plus size model, by.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
The way, Yeah, and I could. And so.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
The lady that's training me to be a model, she's like, yeah,
she said, you're you're good, but you're not gonna make
it because you're just too big, you know, because a
model's got to be they call it a uh clothes hanger,
like you got you gotta off the rack. Yeah, yes,
that's right. Yeah, you gotta like step into the clothes.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
And you know. So acting coach was coming through and
she said you need to take acting classes. I said, okay.
So I took back in classes and I was horrible. Ah.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
And she said, hey, they're shooting a movie down in Mobile.
Let me send your pictures in.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
I was like okay.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Uh, I said, I don't know. I said, I'm not ready.
Saw me in class. I was horrible.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
And so one afternoon, you know, I didn't have a job.
I was washing oprah. Uh and I remember I was
eating cookies.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I don't know what, but that's what you do in
the afternoons.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
And I got a phone call and uh she said, hey,
I'm the casting director for this movie and Mobile and uh,
director saw your picture. He wants you to come down
audition and me never doing anything and being green and
this is a casting director which is never really happens
that calls you.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
I was like, I do send you my picture there
and there.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
Was this there was a silence, and she said, are
you mister Wayne. I said I am. She said, well,
I'm looking at your picture. I called you on the phone.
So apparently I'm looking at your resume on the back
of your picture. I said, but I didn't send it
to you. She's like, and there's a note. She's like, uh,
well let me. She's like, she's getting very irritation.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Well, do you want to come audition with this move
or not? I said, does it pay?
Speaker 6 (06:43):
She's like, and there's just like She's like, if I
could just saw her face, She's like, yes at Pace
and she said, uh, you need to be here tomorrow
if you want to audition at and she said it's a mobile.
So next day I drove down auditioned and I was hard.
Uh and she I came out, that's back that day
(07:03):
you had to go in live. You know, today stuff
had to going live. So I went in audition, came
out passing her to pulled me this side. She said,
he loves your look, but he said, you're just not ready.
He said, because I was bad because only like four lines.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
But this is horrible.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
I said, okay, but hey, she said, uh, we need
some swabies for this, uh navy swabist.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
And I had long hair. My hair was like way
down and I said, she said, but you gotta cut
your hair. I said.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
She said it's like it'd be like two weeks worth
of work. I said, I have to cut my hair.
She said yeah here. I said, okay, So I get
line and I'm about to go in there. And they
were cutting guys hairs like it is like the military.
And I was about to go in. She came running
down the hall. Wait wait, wait, she pulled me back aside.
She said, he forgot. There's a role for a Russian terrorist.
And she says it's a feature background role and uh,
(07:52):
it works two weeks. And I said does it pay?
And she's like, my god, what am I do with
this guy?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Like?
Speaker 6 (07:57):
And she said yes, she said it pays. Put you
in hotel and you get fed once a day. I said,
I have a job, I do.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I have to cut my hair.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Yeah, that's what I said. Yeah, saved my hair too,
and uh, it was like two weeks worth of work.
I ended up working nine weeks and it was under siege,
chasing Stevens all around. And that's what started the direction.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
This is what I want to do. They paid me
a lot of money, you know, but.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
You didn't have to like talk.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Okay, I want to know an example of bad bad acting.
Show me how show me how your audition went there.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Oh god, don't.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Just like that him.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I haven't. Wayne Kevin was the part of Bad Russian
Guy number four like that, Okay.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
I don't even remember. Probably like that.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
He probably whacked out.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Probably I was nervous.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, but I love that. I mean, they like you.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
So you quite didn't make a good first impression with
that lady.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Maybe, but hey, you're just playing hard to get that's right.
Maybe she did like that.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
But now you've been in things like Outer Banks and
Miracle Workers and whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I saw you a Miracle Workers.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I was like, you know, my my daughter, as you know,
was like.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I got to meet some man at her banks.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
The nose John b Yeah, yeah, we have to say
made it and uh yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Little girls hit me all the time. I'm sure, yeah
I do it.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
They're like, you tried to kill a chuck che and
that won't even John that was in stump double.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
His stunt double looks so much like, oh that's right. Wow.
So what's your favorite part you've ever done?
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Probably it's a Malim.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Okay, Malim is a really dark it's not a it's
it's a horror film.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
It's pretty, it's pretty gruesome. But it's not because of that.
It's because of the role I got to play.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Because my whole career, you know, the big guy, I'm
killing somebody, they're killing me or whatever. But I have
I do have a lot of range, and I was
able to show my range in that movie.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
I saw some clips from it on your IMDb last night.
I hadn't even heard of that one, so it's good.
I mean, I don't watch horror, but that's why I
like that.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
I like that because of my performance and the character
I was given to play. I was able to show
my range and what I can Yeah, not just a
big bad guy.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
You think that was the most challenging role? You guys,
what do you think the most challenging role you've had?
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Probably that one. But I don't know, I don't know's.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
It's like I can cry like that really me too.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
I hurt my own feelings, so I'm really good at that.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
Yeah, but uh, and they're just you know and like
in moments, you know, I was like, hey, you know
like when we when we shot that movie, we shot
it and uh the shut down uh around COVID Yeah no, no, no,
it is that shut as a prison I'm not a
prison of jail.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
That Lexington, Louisville.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
It was shut down and like you could just feel
and we shot at night too, and you could just
feel all this.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, yeah, the battle and so.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
It's just like, you know, hit your mark and then
like nine percent in that movie, I'm crying.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
I'm not not crying, just in a very emotional state
because of my daughter.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Booth.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Wow, that's my favorite.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Wow, I need I need to check that out. I'm
not very good with horror films. It's pretty hid behind
my big husband.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
It's pretty. It's brutal.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
My kids love horror films though, So so what do
you think the most?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Like, not like you the opposite of who you are character?
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Maybe same opposite of Yeah, like you know that I played.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yes like someone you didn't expect to play yes, because
I know you're type casted a lot.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Probably homework film.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Oh wow, Oh were you like the honky guy within
in town and the big city girl comes back and
she you got to help save her Christmas tree farm
or something?
Speaker 6 (12:16):
No, not not those. It was a Nashville legacy. I
played a record store own her. Yeah, yeah, and it
was a totally opposite what I've always played Oh yeah, yeah,
I haven't seen it.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
It's UH called Nashville Legacy.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Okay, see, I gotta make a list of all watch
that one without being scared.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
It was two weeks prior to that.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
My girlfriends like, you never she watched I'm like, oh
my gosh, I hate this homework.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
She's like, you'll never be in one of these. Well
I said nope. And it was three weeks later.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
I got an audition that's around Thanksgiving to read for
the shot shot here in Burgham and UH, and I
read for the UH.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Record store owner and I booked it. Never say never,
that's right for sure, exactly. We never thought we'd have
a podcast, Yet here you are.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
We are like it or not, Lindsay, all right, well,
let's talk a little bit about lest we forget.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
So this was something that you filmed a while ago, right, some.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Of the footage there's a lot of stages.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Yeah about this a lot like that was one of
the first things Bruce introduced me to with you.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
He's like, check this footage out.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
So I was summon jury duty back in two thousand two.
Maybe I don't know, it's the best one.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
When I lived in houttown and then and of course
you know, you sit there forever.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
So somehow I got this magazine.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
Called Alabama Heritage, which I love, and I took it
and then I found the story. It said the lynching
of really Bird, and I started reading the story. Oh
my gosh, and it happened in Nauvo, which is where
my whole family's from. My whole family is from Norvo,
on my dad's side. And I started reading the story
and then I found the writer and I met with
(14:13):
him and talked to him, and he since his past.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
But I was like, man, I want to make a
movie about this.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
So I started doing some research and two thousand and
four I went down to Nauvu area coast Slick Lizard,
and they were having like I interviewed the mayor at
the time. He since passed and I interviewed him, man
that was ninety nine years old, that.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Knew Willy Baird Wow.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
And I interviewed all that, and then I sat on
it for a while, and then two thousand and ten
or eleven, I decided to try to shoot this feature
film and I shot it. At the time canon seventy.
I had about three of them and I shot this
movie and it was okay. It's okay, and I spent
(14:58):
a lot of money, my own money, and but parts
of it were not good just because.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Not because of it. It just didn't work. Some scenes work,
some didn't.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
I had, I didn't have a big budget, and so
I shot all this footage and then I said on
that forever and I and after I just sat there
and I kept looking at it, and then I shot
some music videos that kind of pertained to that too,
and then I met with a lady that had family
and novel two that knew them. And then we've written
(15:31):
a feature screenplay called Blood Soldiers, which is based on
all that, and it's been sitting and then I'm like,
you know, I spent so much mone I spent like
eighty grand, like a mile of money on it's called
company and mom Soldiers, and so I'm like, I cannot
let that just go away. So I decided to make
a more of a doctor drama. And then since then
(15:54):
I met Deborah Baird, which is she is the she's
high up in the there's a Baird clan, and so
she she came in and fully supported what I was doing,
and then I interviewed her and she's in the documentary.
And then I found out that, ah, she knew the
lady Willie Baird's great great great niece has the postcard
(16:20):
from him. And then she she I went to her
house in Dadsville, I think, yeah, and she opened up
this trunk and she had all this stuff and I
didn't know that when I was.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Shooting the movie.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
And then she she told me so much stuff is crazy.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
And then and so I decided to make call it
less we forget because that's what's.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
On his tombstone.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Okay, and yeah, and there's a marker in Silut Lizard
that says, lest we forget because of right where Adrian
north Cut, the.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Preacher was father in law, was killed and that's a
true story. And then so that's how that all came up.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
So this story is the about almost where the civil
rights movement could have happened way earlier.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
And then it did. And it was the coal miners at.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
This flick Lizard mine that was it, Yes, And they
got together formed a union because they were really upset
about their horrible working conditions. You know, don't blame them,
And so that's kind of like what this documentary talks
about is that story.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
Yes, you know there are seven government soldiers out of
tuscalism they're going to accompany him, and that it was led
by Sergeant Lancaster.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
And you play yeah, yeah, Bob the bad guy.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Yeah, and they were sent they were sent in to
keep peace really and then they were pushing him like
you know, because they went on striking, like you got
to get these guys back to work, and so he
took it upon himself, just sce. He took the soldiers
to a brothel, got him drunk, and he paid for services.
(18:00):
And then when they left, he was like, hey, we
need to do something before we go back to barracks
and they were like okay, And so that's what they went.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Got Willy out of prison.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
And the cab I remember the cab.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Yeah, they got another cab and they kind of made
him be a part of it and purting out of jail,
shot him fifty seven times, broke every bone in his body,
and hung him from a tree.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Just yeah. And then it's.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
A crazy it's a crazy story.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
And in the documentary, like Deborah and the Niece, they
talk about like we did not talk about this, like
I'm not allowed to talk about this in our family,
and I get it, and I mean, I think these
stories are just so important that we don't forget these
things and don't forget how far we've come, how far
miners you know they, I mean, some of the guys
in the documentary talk about, we would not have the
(18:55):
benefits that we have unless this happened. And they started,
you know, you get all these things are really important.
They start that one domino falls and then everything falls
with it too, So that's right, I think. I mean,
I think people are really going to enjoy Oh yeah,
it's great.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Yeah. And they were, you know, they were they were integrating,
you know kind of mind.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
So that's that's another reason they kept pushing and pressuring.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah, like you said, I mean, the civil rights movement
could have happened way sooner because all these the black
and the white miners came together and they were like, no,
we need to fight together with our rights.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
And a union together.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yes, wasn't separate, and the whole thing was covered up.
Yeah big time, Yeah, big time.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Yeah, because I had never heard of this story because
it's close to is it Walker County?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
And then it takes place. Yeah, I used to live
in Walker County, Jasper. Yeah really.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah, Yeah, Black family's from Carbon Hill Hill.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
And you said you had kind of heard a little bit. Yeah,
I remember a little bit.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
We're there in the Lake eighties, early nineties. I mean
we just heard a lot of coal miners kind of stories.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yeah, you know, so but.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Interesting, it's very interesting to see.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I don't want to get political or anything, but like
the governor and the protect Oh yeah, but you could
see almost that he was torn, you know that. But
that's what politics does to you.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
You've got to go where the money is.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
That's right, lead that way. So interesting.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Well, I think this is a really cool documentary. I
think people are really gonna like it.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, so we're so excited you're letting us you know.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Oh, I appreciate Joe letting me show us.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Yeah, show it at our facility. We love having you
over there.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
That's the start, you know, of the movie, like the
feature films.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
Feature films will be called Blood Soldiers, and the script's
finished and we're.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Just excited about it.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
So I started casting.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
No, not yet, Okay, Well I did love the footage
that you shot, like all the acting scenes and stuff. Also,
is the courthouse scene is that filmed in Greenville, Like
it is the same courthouse the yes, okay, yes, I
was like, yes, it's the this is so familiar.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
So I was looking for a courthouse for you know,
to match, and like everyone's like, you gotta you gotta
go talk to the people in Monroeville. So I went
there and she's like, we really don't allow this, but
she said, this is very interesting story. She said, we're
we're we're taking up the floor in two weeks and
placing it.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
She said, that's why we don't want to buy.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
She said, if you can get in here and shoot,
because she said, I know you'll mess up the floor,
scratch it and all that.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
She said, I'll let you shoot here.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
So it was it was hard too, like like you're
talking about independent gorilla shooting.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
That's and I had and I didn't have no producer.
I was a producer and director and.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
I was playing and and you So in that court
scene again, all those extras there and get.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
It was it was.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
It was a circus.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
It was, but we got it done during the daytime,
is there yeah, light, Yeah, Well that's.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
What I like that scene a lot, especially your your
partner that scene.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Thank you such the villain Kevin.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Yes, yeah, I didn't tell that after I was gonna
do that either, it will surprise this guy and I
like and when I was like, I'm gonna pick him
up and go crazy, but I didn't realize how light
he was when I picked him up.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
He went.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah mount Man, Yeah, you'll have to wait and see that.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
It's a documentary, but it's a good scene. It really
is worth it.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, those fans of Outer Banks was like picking up
John b.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Yeah. But there's a couple of things that like in
the court and scene, like you know, I don't know
if you noticed that they had the because you know,
they did the stage production kill and so they had
the lights.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Yeah, I couldn't shoot around it. And then uh, they
would only let us down.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Yeah there's another up balcony.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
They wouldn't let us up there.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
So the African American people were sitting in the.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Crowd too, and that that would have never happened. Yeah. Wow,
So we had to kind of cut and cut around that.
But yeah, it was great.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Where were some of the other places you filmed, because
there were like cabins and like well, you know the.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Scene where we go into jail.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
We shot in Alabaster with that cobblestone really wow wow
you know.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Where it says jail.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
We put him black up there and this cobblestone we shot.
Oh wow, good we shot. Uh, let's shoot. We shot
the barracks, which is really cool. We shot this a
Christian kids camp and I forget the.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Name of it. It's like a summer camp.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
We shot there because they have they put these kids
in these that's where they sleep, you know.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
And I'm like, this looks just like a brick out camp.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
So those cabins.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
We shot there. Uh.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
We shot uh at a farm in McCallum where we
really got shot shot there.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
M Yeah, well it's really cool. The footage between the
interviews is really cool. Yeah, it's very well done. Yeah.
I love the narrator too.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
I was like this before here it's Christmas Cann. Yeah,
he's like a local probably.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Amazing before but I love his voice. I was just like,
I want him to like read me story at night.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Yeah. I met Chris a long time ago.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
He actually came to my acting class and then I
went through his voiceover class that we kind of bartered
and then he uh, I'm like I called him.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
I said, Chris, You've got to do the voice over
for this foreman and he's.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Like, oh that It was cool.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
And then the one of the more famous actors that
we recognized in there was your your boss that sends you,
I guess back to Tesclusa.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Oh yeah, Michaelensky. Yeah, he's all order.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Yes, I know him from Dropped a Diva though, Yeah,
Dropped a Diva Lawyers.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yeah. I was like, I know this guy and I
used to watch that I love Diva.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
He was one of my He was one of my
well he wasn't my acting coach. He was like at
the time, he was doing life coach thing at one point,
and I hired him to be my life coach, and
uh really went about acting acting kind of. We talked
about it a little bit, but became really good friends
on Like, Hey, I'm shooting this movie called Company and
Mama Soldiers.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I said, would you play general and he's like sure.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I was like, the famous guy, how do we.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Uh, Richard Tyson's in there too, Yeah yeah, Richard black
Hawk down.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, there was because there was another guy was like, yeah,
there's back, Okay, I'm going to show my how naive.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
I am as Lindsay knows. Okay, when you're with your
general and you're like, can I what what did what
did you have in your hands?
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Cigarettes?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (26:16):
What cigarette?
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I couldn't tell what it was cigarettes because it looked
like a small little pack.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
And I had a feeling that was improv too, because uh,
I knew, I knew Mike and how he does and
uh huh, and so I had them in my hand.
I walked in and none of that was you know,
that was that one in the script. And I pulled
him out and I said, do you mind?
Speaker 5 (26:42):
I knew, I knew he was going to like go
with it.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I was.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
I was teeming him up and it was. It turned
out great.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I watched it on my phone too, so I was like,
what is that drugs? Cigarette?
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Tobacco?
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Candy?
Speaker 3 (26:59):
So you can't have candy cigarette. It's funny, Okay, awesome,
Well we're looking forward to.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah, and tell us about the other because we're getting
a teaser documentary too.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
You're actually getting you're getting three.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Three, we're getting three threat.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
One is the call the Lincoln.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
I again, I did the documentary way back in the day.
On the Lincoln Theater investment.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Okay, and uh.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
It's something I shot and it was so weird because
I shot it and that's the guy that Jake Bavona,
he's the one that actually hired me to shoot it,
and then he kind of got sick. And it was
really cool because you know, interviewed Gibson, which is no
longer with us, and it was just really because he
(27:52):
swept the floors there crazy and it's really cool, and
so I wanted to get it out and then I
finally got the blessing from Jake to go ahead and
just put it out because it's been sitting so long
and uh, I forget her name. I figured her name.
Her son's an actor. Anyway, they've since purchased the theater
(28:16):
and they're trying to renovate it. So that's why that
is a Then so it's a really short doc that's
really well done, really well done. And then I have
a small documentary on the twentieth. Yeah, she thank you,
I know, So that'll be that one, and then the Lincoln.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
And then let's say, yeah, you've been around with us
for a long time, trying to go way back.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
That's right, you think twenty years. You've been with the
you've known people at the ours Council.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
Well, I've known Bruce sure forever forever.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Well, yeah, right, because I mean he's been around as
long as I've been there.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Yeah, I love it. Yeah, thank you. That's great. Great,
So we will see you July nineteenth.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
It's going to be the premiere Saturday, July nineteenth, the
Shelby County Arts Council. You can get your tickets at
shell Be County our Council dot com. It's gonna start.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
At seven thirty. Doors open at seven o'clock. Now, there
is a little you know, we'll have to warn you little.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Bloody, little blood little language.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Maybe the miners as in children, we leave the children
at home, but the miners, Yeah, at a date.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Night, get out of the house.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
But it's story.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
It's great. Absolutely, it's a great story.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
And it's you know, relevant, I mean that's what it
would been like.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
It's very true.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
But it's time.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Absolutely, So that's great. We're excited, awesome, thanks for being
with us today.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
We're so excited. Thanks for joining us. We're gonna give
everybody your Instagram. Are you ready for that?
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Okay, so please.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Follow Kevin at Underscore Kevin Wayne I n C. And
you might find photos of Kevin. Are you ready? Yes,
We're gonna reenact Kenya's ready.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
A smaller.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Pictures home, okay, smile their Heaven Instagram, this podcast Kenya.
(30:40):
Please come down in the today. And don't want to
see more episodes of conversations with you and there onside should.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Call up the media Facebook, Instagram
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Or nothing at
Hi. On today's episode, we're talking to Kevin Wayne, the
One and Only about his documentary's upcoming documentary and all
the things, and we will be sharing our wrestler wrestler names. Kevin,
that's a surprise for you.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Stay tuned, Welcome to conversations with Creative.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
And today we have mister.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Kevin Wayne, the One and Only, the multi talented.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
What do we say, the multiverse? Heaven?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
We're talking to Kevin Wayne, the multiverse.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
He does it all? What doesn't he do?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
But first we have to ask very important that's very important, Benjie.
What is the very important question of the day.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Very important question, Kevin, is if you were a wrestler.
And I feel like you've probably been a wrestler at
one time in your past life.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Okay, okay, I just acted as a wrestler.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Well, okay, if you were a real wrestler, what would
your wrestler name be?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I think we'll let you fake when we share ours. Yes,
I actually ours.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
The other day I fell asleep on the couch and
I woke up and wrestling was on.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
So this is.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
This is how it came to me. So my wrestler
name is Danny the Hammer.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
MM hmm. And I and I actually just throw nails
at people. That's the thing that I do.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
And then all the people in the audience who love me,
they bring like those inflatable hammers and like shooting them around.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Danny throwing nails at people.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Also nails hammer because because you hammer nails, I know,
but ship, but you're the hammer. Yeah, and I'm gonna
nail them Okay, got it?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Got it? And also we're a tag team. We are
we're Italian names.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
So, and I am the Belk, the white Chocolate Thunder.
Well le bel Bell is the formal name of me.
I'm just white Chocolate Thunder. But I can't be chocolate Thunder. Didn't. So,
(02:26):
now that you've got these great names.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Gosh, I don't know. I should have to think about
it because it has to be cool and you know, yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Okay, maybe you will know by the end of Let's
come back. Okay, So get to think while we.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Ask him questions.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
You will you get it?
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Yeah, because I'm so you know, I'm so, I'm creative.
So I've got to really I can't just throw that
out there time.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
It's gotta be cool, yeah, exactly to match your coolness,
and I feel like you could really be a wrestler
in real life.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
I talked about I thought about doing that at one time, Like,
but you know, you would go to Atlanta and you
would try out for them. I think I forget what
t T thing it was. I thought about doing that,
but so many of my friends, you know, they're legitimate.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
They would get hurt.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, but it'd probably be better when you were a
little bigger. You've you've lost quite a bit of weight.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Maybe if you're smaller. You're not very tall. So we
had to put him like you know, he's sitting a
home book. Yeah, phone books.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
So that okay, mountain Man, that's.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
It, Mountain mountains.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
That's perfect.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Bear I could wear overall.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
These are like sidekick, and that comes with us sometimes
our surprise, Like.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
I just carry a club like this club, like I
love it, like a little like a little that out
of a log.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Oh yeah, oh that's cool, Like sitting on your cabin
porch in the mountains, blowing in your jug.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Yes, like mountain man.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, Danny the hammer, white chocolate thunder and the surprised
guest goes out, guess mountain Man.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Yeah, mountain mane. That's it.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I don't think people are going to try to get
us to be wrestlers now, yeah, probably we have other jobs.
This isn't all wrestling podcast now, Okay, awesome.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Now important thing.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Now that that's out of the way, let's talk about
a documentary oka.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Or talk about really who is Kevin Wayne? Who was
who was Kevin Wayne? Did he come from? Where did
you come? What's your gets started? What's your villain origin story?
Speaker 5 (04:42):
How I got started? I was nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
I was trying to be a model, okay, getting worked
out because I was too big, you know, to be
a model you got to be getting to like a
forty two regular coke just unrealistic enough.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
And Iculo.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
I was like, even at twenty one, I was in
you know, it was a fifty two extra long.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I would prefer a plus size model, by.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
The way, Yeah, and I could. And so.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
The lady that's training me to be a model, she's like, yeah,
she said, you're you're good, but you're not gonna make
it because you're just too big, you know, because a
model's got to be they call it a uh clothes hanger,
like you got you gotta off the rack. Yeah, yes,
that's right. Yeah, you gotta like step into the clothes.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
And you know. So acting coach was coming through and
she said you need to take acting classes. I said, okay.
So I took back in classes and I was horrible. Ah.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
And she said, hey, they're shooting a movie down in Mobile.
Let me send your pictures in.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
I was like okay.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Uh, I said, I don't know. I said, I'm not ready.
Saw me in class. I was horrible.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
And so one afternoon, you know, I didn't have a job.
I was washing oprah. Uh and I remember I was
eating cookies.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I don't know what, but that's what you do in
the afternoons.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
And I got a phone call and uh she said, hey,
I'm the casting director for this movie and Mobile and uh,
director saw your picture. He wants you to come down
audition and me never doing anything and being green and
this is a casting director which is never really happens
that calls you.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
I was like, I do send you my picture there
and there.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
Was this there was a silence, and she said, are
you mister Wayne. I said I am. She said, well,
I'm looking at your picture. I called you on the phone.
So apparently I'm looking at your resume on the back
of your picture. I said, but I didn't send it
to you. She's like, and there's a note. She's like, uh,
well let me. She's like, she's getting very irritation.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Well, do you want to come audition with this move
or not? I said, does it pay?
Speaker 6 (06:43):
She's like, and there's just like She's like, if I
could just saw her face, She's like, yes at Pace
and she said, uh, you need to be here tomorrow
if you want to audition at and she said it's a mobile.
So next day I drove down auditioned and I was hard.
Uh and she I came out, that's back that day
(07:03):
you had to go in live. You know, today stuff
had to going live. So I went in audition, came
out passing her to pulled me this side. She said,
he loves your look, but he said, you're just not ready.
He said, because I was bad because only like four lines.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
But this is horrible.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
I said, okay, but hey, she said, uh, we need
some swabies for this, uh navy swabist.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
And I had long hair. My hair was like way
down and I said, she said, but you gotta cut
your hair. I said.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
She said it's like it'd be like two weeks worth
of work. I said, I have to cut my hair.
She said yeah here. I said, okay, So I get
line and I'm about to go in there. And they
were cutting guys hairs like it is like the military.
And I was about to go in. She came running
down the hall. Wait wait, wait, she pulled me back aside.
She said, he forgot. There's a role for a Russian terrorist.
And she says it's a feature background role and uh,
(07:52):
it works two weeks. And I said does it pay?
And she's like, my god, what am I do with
this guy?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Like?
Speaker 6 (07:57):
And she said yes, she said it pays. Put you
in hotel and you get fed once a day. I said,
I have a job, I do.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I have to cut my hair.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Yeah, that's what I said. Yeah, saved my hair too,
and uh, it was like two weeks worth of work.
I ended up working nine weeks and it was under siege,
chasing Stevens all around. And that's what started the direction.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
This is what I want to do. They paid me
a lot of money, you know, but.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
You didn't have to like talk.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Okay, I want to know an example of bad bad acting.
Show me how show me how your audition went there.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Oh god, don't.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Just like that him.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I haven't. Wayne Kevin was the part of Bad Russian
Guy number four like that, Okay.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
I don't even remember. Probably like that.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
He probably whacked out.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Probably I was nervous.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, but I love that. I mean, they like you.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
So you quite didn't make a good first impression with
that lady.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Maybe, but hey, you're just playing hard to get that's right.
Maybe she did like that.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
But now you've been in things like Outer Banks and
Miracle Workers and whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I saw you a Miracle Workers.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I was like, you know, my my daughter, as you know,
was like.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I got to meet some man at her banks.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
The nose John b Yeah, yeah, we have to say
made it and uh yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Little girls hit me all the time. I'm sure, yeah
I do it.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
They're like, you tried to kill a chuck che and
that won't even John that was in stump double.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
His stunt double looks so much like, oh that's right. Wow.
So what's your favorite part you've ever done?
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Probably it's a Malim.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Okay, Malim is a really dark it's not a it's
it's a horror film.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
It's pretty, it's pretty gruesome. But it's not because of that.
It's because of the role I got to play.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Because my whole career, you know, the big guy, I'm
killing somebody, they're killing me or whatever. But I have
I do have a lot of range, and I was
able to show my range in that movie.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
I saw some clips from it on your IMDb last night.
I hadn't even heard of that one, so it's good.
I mean, I don't watch horror, but that's why I
like that.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
I like that because of my performance and the character
I was given to play. I was able to show
my range and what I can Yeah, not just a
big bad guy.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
You think that was the most challenging role? You guys,
what do you think the most challenging role you've had?
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Probably that one. But I don't know, I don't know's.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
It's like I can cry like that really me too.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
I hurt my own feelings, so I'm really good at that.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
Yeah, but uh, and they're just you know and like
in moments, you know, I was like, hey, you know
like when we when we shot that movie, we shot
it and uh the shut down uh around COVID Yeah no, no, no,
it is that shut as a prison I'm not a
prison of jail.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
That Lexington, Louisville.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
It was shut down and like you could just feel
and we shot at night too, and you could just
feel all this.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, yeah, the battle and so.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
It's just like, you know, hit your mark and then
like nine percent in that movie, I'm crying.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
I'm not not crying, just in a very emotional state
because of my daughter.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Booth.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Wow, that's my favorite.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Wow, I need I need to check that out. I'm
not very good with horror films. It's pretty hid behind
my big husband.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
It's pretty. It's brutal.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
My kids love horror films though, So so what do
you think the most?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Like, not like you the opposite of who you are character?
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Maybe same opposite of Yeah, like you know that I played.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yes like someone you didn't expect to play yes, because
I know you're type casted a lot.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Probably homework film.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Oh wow, Oh were you like the honky guy within
in town and the big city girl comes back and
she you got to help save her Christmas tree farm
or something?
Speaker 6 (12:16):
No, not not those. It was a Nashville legacy. I
played a record store own her. Yeah, yeah, and it
was a totally opposite what I've always played Oh yeah, yeah,
I haven't seen it.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
It's UH called Nashville Legacy.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Okay, see, I gotta make a list of all watch
that one without being scared.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
It was two weeks prior to that.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
My girlfriends like, you never she watched I'm like, oh
my gosh, I hate this homework.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
She's like, you'll never be in one of these. Well
I said nope. And it was three weeks later.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
I got an audition that's around Thanksgiving to read for
the shot shot here in Burgham and UH, and I
read for the UH.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Record store owner and I booked it. Never say never,
that's right for sure, exactly. We never thought we'd have
a podcast, Yet here you are.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
We are like it or not, Lindsay, all right, well,
let's talk a little bit about lest we forget.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
So this was something that you filmed a while ago, right, some.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Of the footage there's a lot of stages.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Yeah about this a lot like that was one of
the first things Bruce introduced me to with you.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
He's like, check this footage out.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
So I was summon jury duty back in two thousand two.
Maybe I don't know, it's the best one.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
When I lived in houttown and then and of course
you know, you sit there forever.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
So somehow I got this magazine.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
Called Alabama Heritage, which I love, and I took it
and then I found the story. It said the lynching
of really Bird, and I started reading the story. Oh
my gosh, and it happened in Nauvo, which is where
my whole family's from. My whole family is from Norvo,
on my dad's side. And I started reading the story
and then I found the writer and I met with
(14:13):
him and talked to him, and he since his past.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
But I was like, man, I want to make a
movie about this.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
So I started doing some research and two thousand and
four I went down to Nauvu area coast Slick Lizard,
and they were having like I interviewed the mayor at
the time. He since passed and I interviewed him, man
that was ninety nine years old, that.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Knew Willy Baird Wow.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
And I interviewed all that, and then I sat on
it for a while, and then two thousand and ten
or eleven, I decided to try to shoot this feature
film and I shot it. At the time canon seventy.
I had about three of them and I shot this
movie and it was okay. It's okay, and I spent
(14:58):
a lot of money, my own money, and but parts
of it were not good just because.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Not because of it. It just didn't work. Some scenes work,
some didn't.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
I had, I didn't have a big budget, and so
I shot all this footage and then I said on
that forever and I and after I just sat there
and I kept looking at it, and then I shot
some music videos that kind of pertained to that too,
and then I met with a lady that had family
and novel two that knew them. And then we've written
(15:31):
a feature screenplay called Blood Soldiers, which is based on
all that, and it's been sitting and then I'm like,
you know, I spent so much mone I spent like
eighty grand, like a mile of money on it's called
company and mom Soldiers, and so I'm like, I cannot
let that just go away. So I decided to make
a more of a doctor drama. And then since then
(15:54):
I met Deborah Baird, which is she is the she's
high up in the there's a Baird clan, and so
she she came in and fully supported what I was doing,
and then I interviewed her and she's in the documentary.
And then I found out that, ah, she knew the
lady Willie Baird's great great great niece has the postcard
(16:20):
from him. And then she she I went to her
house in Dadsville, I think, yeah, and she opened up
this trunk and she had all this stuff and I
didn't know that when I was.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Shooting the movie.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
And then she she told me so much stuff is crazy.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
And then and so I decided to make call it
less we forget because that's what's.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
On his tombstone.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Okay, and yeah, and there's a marker in Silut Lizard
that says, lest we forget because of right where Adrian
north Cut, the.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Preacher was father in law, was killed and that's a
true story. And then so that's how that all came up.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
So this story is the about almost where the civil
rights movement could have happened way earlier.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
And then it did. And it was the coal miners at.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
This flick Lizard mine that was it, Yes, And they
got together formed a union because they were really upset
about their horrible working conditions. You know, don't blame them,
And so that's kind of like what this documentary talks
about is that story.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
Yes, you know there are seven government soldiers out of
tuscalism they're going to accompany him, and that it was led
by Sergeant Lancaster.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
And you play yeah, yeah, Bob the bad guy.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Yeah, and they were sent they were sent in to
keep peace really and then they were pushing him like
you know, because they went on striking, like you got
to get these guys back to work, and so he
took it upon himself, just sce. He took the soldiers
to a brothel, got him drunk, and he paid for services.
(18:00):
And then when they left, he was like, hey, we
need to do something before we go back to barracks
and they were like okay, And so that's what they went.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Got Willy out of prison.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
And the cab I remember the cab.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Yeah, they got another cab and they kind of made
him be a part of it and purting out of jail,
shot him fifty seven times, broke every bone in his body,
and hung him from a tree.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Just yeah. And then it's.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
A crazy it's a crazy story.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
And in the documentary, like Deborah and the Niece, they
talk about like we did not talk about this, like
I'm not allowed to talk about this in our family,
and I get it, and I mean, I think these
stories are just so important that we don't forget these
things and don't forget how far we've come, how far
miners you know they, I mean, some of the guys
in the documentary talk about, we would not have the
(18:55):
benefits that we have unless this happened. And they started,
you know, you get all these things are really important.
They start that one domino falls and then everything falls
with it too, So that's right, I think. I mean,
I think people are really going to enjoy Oh yeah,
it's great.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Yeah. And they were, you know, they were they were integrating,
you know kind of mind.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
So that's that's another reason they kept pushing and pressuring.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah, like you said, I mean, the civil rights movement
could have happened way sooner because all these the black
and the white miners came together and they were like, no,
we need to fight together with our rights.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
And a union together.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yes, wasn't separate, and the whole thing was covered up.
Yeah big time, Yeah, big time.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Yeah, because I had never heard of this story because
it's close to is it Walker County?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
And then it takes place. Yeah, I used to live
in Walker County, Jasper. Yeah really.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah, Yeah, Black family's from Carbon Hill Hill.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
And you said you had kind of heard a little bit. Yeah,
I remember a little bit.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
We're there in the Lake eighties, early nineties. I mean
we just heard a lot of coal miners kind of stories.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yeah, you know, so but.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Interesting, it's very interesting to see.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I don't want to get political or anything, but like
the governor and the protect Oh yeah, but you could
see almost that he was torn, you know that. But
that's what politics does to you.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
You've got to go where the money is.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
That's right, lead that way. So interesting.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Well, I think this is a really cool documentary. I
think people are really gonna like it.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, so we're so excited you're letting us you know.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Oh, I appreciate Joe letting me show us.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Yeah, show it at our facility. We love having you
over there.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
That's the start, you know, of the movie, like the
feature films.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
Feature films will be called Blood Soldiers, and the script's
finished and we're.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Just excited about it.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
So I started casting.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
No, not yet, Okay, Well I did love the footage
that you shot, like all the acting scenes and stuff. Also,
is the courthouse scene is that filmed in Greenville, Like
it is the same courthouse the yes, okay, yes, I
was like, yes, it's the this is so familiar.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
So I was looking for a courthouse for you know,
to match, and like everyone's like, you gotta you gotta
go talk to the people in Monroeville. So I went
there and she's like, we really don't allow this, but
she said, this is very interesting story. She said, we're
we're we're taking up the floor in two weeks and
placing it.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
She said, that's why we don't want to buy.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
She said, if you can get in here and shoot,
because she said, I know you'll mess up the floor,
scratch it and all that.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
She said, I'll let you shoot here.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
So it was it was hard too, like like you're
talking about independent gorilla shooting.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
That's and I had and I didn't have no producer.
I was a producer and director and.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
I was playing and and you So in that court
scene again, all those extras there and get.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
It was it was.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
It was a circus.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
It was, but we got it done during the daytime,
is there yeah, light, Yeah, Well that's.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
What I like that scene a lot, especially your your
partner that scene.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Thank you such the villain Kevin.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Yes, yeah, I didn't tell that after I was gonna
do that either, it will surprise this guy and I
like and when I was like, I'm gonna pick him
up and go crazy, but I didn't realize how light
he was when I picked him up.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
He went.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah mount Man, Yeah, you'll have to wait and see that.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
It's a documentary, but it's a good scene. It really
is worth it.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, those fans of Outer Banks was like picking up
John b.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Yeah. But there's a couple of things that like in
the court and scene, like you know, I don't know
if you noticed that they had the because you know,
they did the stage production kill and so they had
the lights.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Yeah, I couldn't shoot around it. And then uh, they
would only let us down.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Yeah there's another up balcony.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
They wouldn't let us up there.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
So the African American people were sitting in the.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Crowd too, and that that would have never happened. Yeah. Wow,
So we had to kind of cut and cut around that.
But yeah, it was great.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Where were some of the other places you filmed, because
there were like cabins and like well, you know the.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Scene where we go into jail.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
We shot in Alabaster with that cobblestone really wow wow
you know.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Where it says jail.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
We put him black up there and this cobblestone we shot.
Oh wow, good we shot. Uh, let's shoot. We shot
the barracks, which is really cool. We shot this a
Christian kids camp and I forget the.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Name of it. It's like a summer camp.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
We shot there because they have they put these kids
in these that's where they sleep, you know.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
And I'm like, this looks just like a brick out camp.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
So those cabins.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
We shot there. Uh.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
We shot uh at a farm in McCallum where we
really got shot shot there.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
M Yeah, well it's really cool. The footage between the
interviews is really cool. Yeah, it's very well done. Yeah.
I love the narrator too.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
I was like this before here it's Christmas Cann. Yeah,
he's like a local probably.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Amazing before but I love his voice. I was just like,
I want him to like read me story at night.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Yeah. I met Chris a long time ago.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
He actually came to my acting class and then I
went through his voiceover class that we kind of bartered
and then he uh, I'm like I called him.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
I said, Chris, You've got to do the voice over
for this foreman and he's.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Like, oh that It was cool.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
And then the one of the more famous actors that
we recognized in there was your your boss that sends you,
I guess back to Tesclusa.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Oh yeah, Michaelensky. Yeah, he's all order.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Yes, I know him from Dropped a Diva though, Yeah,
Dropped a Diva Lawyers.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yeah. I was like, I know this guy and I
used to watch that I love Diva.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
He was one of my He was one of my
well he wasn't my acting coach. He was like at
the time, he was doing life coach thing at one point,
and I hired him to be my life coach, and
uh really went about acting acting kind of. We talked
about it a little bit, but became really good friends
on Like, Hey, I'm shooting this movie called Company and
Mama Soldiers.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I said, would you play general and he's like sure.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I was like, the famous guy, how do we.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Uh, Richard Tyson's in there too, Yeah yeah, Richard black
Hawk down.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, there was because there was another guy was like, yeah,
there's back, Okay, I'm going to show my how naive.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
I am as Lindsay knows. Okay, when you're with your
general and you're like, can I what what did what
did you have in your hands?
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Cigarettes?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (26:16):
What cigarette?
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I couldn't tell what it was cigarettes because it looked
like a small little pack.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
And I had a feeling that was improv too, because uh,
I knew, I knew Mike and how he does and
uh huh, and so I had them in my hand.
I walked in and none of that was you know,
that was that one in the script. And I pulled
him out and I said, do you mind?
Speaker 5 (26:42):
I knew, I knew he was going to like go
with it.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I was.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
I was teeming him up and it was. It turned
out great.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I watched it on my phone too, so I was like,
what is that drugs? Cigarette?
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Tobacco?
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Candy?
Speaker 3 (26:59):
So you can't have candy cigarette. It's funny, Okay, awesome,
Well we're looking forward to.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah, and tell us about the other because we're getting
a teaser documentary too.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
You're actually getting you're getting three.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Three, we're getting three threat.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
One is the call the Lincoln.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
I again, I did the documentary way back in the day.
On the Lincoln Theater investment.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Okay, and uh.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
It's something I shot and it was so weird because
I shot it and that's the guy that Jake Bavona,
he's the one that actually hired me to shoot it,
and then he kind of got sick. And it was
really cool because you know, interviewed Gibson, which is no
longer with us, and it was just really because he
(27:52):
swept the floors there crazy and it's really cool, and
so I wanted to get it out and then I
finally got the blessing from Jake to go ahead and
just put it out because it's been sitting so long
and uh, I forget her name. I figured her name.
Her son's an actor. Anyway, they've since purchased the theater
(28:16):
and they're trying to renovate it. So that's why that
is a Then so it's a really short doc that's
really well done, really well done. And then I have
a small documentary on the twentieth. Yeah, she thank you,
I know, So that'll be that one, and then the Lincoln.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
And then let's say, yeah, you've been around with us
for a long time, trying to go way back.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
That's right, you think twenty years. You've been with the
you've known people at the ours Council.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
Well, I've known Bruce sure forever forever.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Well, yeah, right, because I mean he's been around as
long as I've been there.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Yeah, I love it. Yeah, thank you. That's great. Great,
So we will see you July nineteenth.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
It's going to be the premiere Saturday, July nineteenth, the
Shelby County Arts Council. You can get your tickets at
shell Be County our Council dot com. It's gonna start.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
At seven thirty. Doors open at seven o'clock. Now, there
is a little you know, we'll have to warn you little.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Bloody, little blood little language.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Maybe the miners as in children, we leave the children
at home, but the miners, Yeah, at a date.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Night, get out of the house.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
But it's story.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
It's great. Absolutely, it's a great story.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
And it's you know, relevant, I mean that's what it
would been like.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
It's very true.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
But it's time.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Absolutely, So that's great. We're excited, awesome, thanks for being
with us today.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
We're so excited. Thanks for joining us. We're gonna give
everybody your Instagram. Are you ready for that?
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Okay, so please.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Follow Kevin at Underscore Kevin Wayne I n C. And
you might find photos of Kevin. Are you ready? Yes,
We're gonna reenact Kenya's ready.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
A smaller.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Pictures home, okay, smile their Heaven Instagram, this podcast Kenya.
(30:40):
Please come down in the today. And don't want to
see more episodes of conversations with you and there onside should.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Call up the media Facebook, Instagram
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Or nothing at
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