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September 21, 2025 78 mins
In this episode, Im joined by multidimensional artist, intuitive energy healer, and light worker, Tanya Harris. Tanya shared her inspiration from the Shipibo tribe and journey into the world of light work at Seven Sisters in London, and she talked about how sound can create geometric patterns and influence our reality. We also discussed the importance of intuitive abilities, black magic vs light work, the Seven Sisters Star system (Pleiades), the impact of the global elite on our energy and consciousness, darkness defining the light, Ariadne and the Labyrinth, the power of intention, her study on cymatics in The Architecture of Sound, Cymascope, frozen music and liquid architecture, sacred geometry, creating with sound, rose windows and vibrational healing, ley lines and energy hotspots, awakening your light within, and the great awakening.
 
Books Mentioned
The Bible
The Alchemy of 9 Dimensions
Conversations with God
 
Sound Art Mentioned
Im Sitting in a Room
 
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https://www.tanya-harris.com/

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Speaker 1 (01:06):
Welcome back to the Awakened podcast. I'm your host Brad
Leo and joining me on the show today is artists, intuitive,
energy healer and light worker Tanya Harris. Tanya is best
known for her study of cymatics in her project called
the Architecture of Sound, and she joined me today to
talk about the relationship between sound, vibration and healing and
how sound can create geometric patterns and influence our reality.

(01:29):
We also got into the conversation of sacred geometry and
architecture and the impact of negative forces on our consciousness.
I think you guys are going to really enjoy this episode,
so without further delay, let's go ahead and get into
the conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
When I was doing the Architecture Sound project, that was
when I was living in London, when I was studying
at Saint Martin's. So probably when I was fourteen, I
started studying Reyki. So you kind of connect to do

(02:04):
the healing. To activate healing, you make geometric patterns while
you're making sounds, and that activates healing. So I think
having that in the back of my psyche since I
was like fourteen years old, that influenced my artwork in
creating geometric patterns from sound vibrations, And now I kind

(02:28):
of see everything as vibration, and how the choices that
we make in every day kind of create a new
geometry around us, and how our outer reality is always
your affliction of our inner reality. Anything that's created with
sacred geometric ratios, whether it's sound or an art piece

(02:48):
or building, I think when we subconsciously we experience that
harmony because our whole body is made out of that harmony,
so we resonate with it. So I guess any building
creative with those proportions, any artwork, any music created with
a proportions, deeply resonates with us in a way that

(03:11):
we kind of can explain with words.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
What made you decide to start studying the relationship between
sound and form.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
I discovered a tribe in the Amazon called the Shipibi tribe,
and they are they basically translate songs that they create
into colorful geometric patterns tapestries, and once I discovered them,

(03:46):
I knew I had to go and visit them and
ended up doing I Want the Vyauasca with them and
realizing how the songs that they translate into patterns or
songs that they that are given to them by plants
that they diet. So yeah, really helped me understand how

(04:07):
nature is telepathic just living there, and how all all
consciousness is continuously communicating, whether consciously or unconsciously, and how
the Shippi were able to vibrationally connect with plants and

(04:27):
then translate those into these kind of beautiful, colorful geometric tapestues.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Is that what you meant on your website? I've read
that you said that all beings are continuously broadcasting vibrations
like a radio signal and absorbing these vibrations around them,
and that all of nature was in constant telepathic communications.
Is that the same thing you were saying just now?

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, Yeah, I think We're all kind of have those abilities,
but we just haven't been tapped into them, or we've
been viewed away from them.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
What is it that you think is keeping us from that?
Is there a purpose to that?

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Well, I think there's you know, the global elite or
whatever you want to call it, Like, you know, our
waters contaminated, our atmospheres contaminated, we're in a frequency controlled
society because those kind of setups need to be put

(05:27):
in place to kind of minimize us waking up or
minimize our cheuta abilities. Like if I give up coffee
and sugar and you know, lots of different things, if
we all did that for like three months, our intuition
would be like, WHOA. So it's it's it's really not
social to be that, you know, healthy, or it's not

(05:50):
kind of easy to live like that and kind of
socialized and genomal.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
You said, but you would agree that there's like a
global elite that's kind of pulling the strings and maybe
putting stuff in our food and maybe poison us our
ears with the certain kinds of music and things like
that to prevent us from experiencing higher versions of ourselves.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah. Absolutely, with that only motivates me to kind of
want to shine my life brighter. I guess I guess
it's kind of like black magic and then light work
it's like kind of polar opposites. So in some ways

(06:37):
they work in similar ways. But if if we live
in a free will universe, then and we remember our
sovereignty and we remember who we really are, then it's
easy to disconnect connections with entities or overlords or energetic

(06:59):
chords between other people because we stand in our sovereignty
and we remember who we really are, like that ware
extensions and source energy, and then we stand in that
sovereignty and then we're able to cut those ties. So
light work where the light is all about revealing information,
whereas the dark is all about concealing information and usurping

(07:20):
people's free will, whereas light work is more about empowering
people to step into their sovereignty and realize that they
have that ability to choose what energies they interact with
they're not. So with my light work practice, like I

(07:41):
teach psychic protection tools, so having tools around me so
that it's tools that are constantly absorbing any negativity coming
towards me, any negativity coming out of me. And so
it's like the darkness is important too, because that if
we were just a light on the sun, how would

(08:03):
we experience ourself as light, we'd know ourselves as light,
but we'd never be able to experience ourself, and so
the darkness defines the light, and so when we see
it from that viewpoint, there's an ability to be fearless
about saying no to the darkness or having discernment about

(08:24):
where your boundaries lie, because because you remember who you
really are. Do you know what I mean? For me now,
doing these kind of psychic protection tools is a non negotiable.
If I don't do them for a few days, like
my energy feels out of alignment, and it's easier for

(08:45):
people to kind of coourd into me or affect me.
So a lot of people coming to me for light
work sessions, they might have past lives as a which
your you know wise women midwives that were burned to
the state, so they're really they have vowed to themselves
through those kind of lifetimes that they would never use

(09:06):
their intuitive, our healing abilities for fear of their life
or the lives of those I love that they love.
So clearing all these kind of timelines so that we
could hear the contracts and agreements that are preventing us
from stepping funny into our essence and our life. So

(09:29):
I work with a higher council of life beings for
my light work practice and where angels archangels, the Yallo
him ascended masters, so they're holding sacred space for me
and my clients. And really I'm just kind of a
messenger and I'm just saying what their higher self is
asking me to reveal to them. Usually they're the most

(09:52):
important hidden blocks that are holding them back from their
own de mind alignment, whether that's a past life or
a belief for entye attachment that's give you them in
a loop kind of behavior pattern. But yeah, it's like
learning these tools. It's like feeling invincible, whether it's the

(10:16):
light of the dark, because it's like remembering our sovereignty
and how to amate our frequency instead of absorb everything
around us, and having that switch makes it feel sick
to navigate the darkness because when you trust the vibration
that you're offering in each moment, when you're tuned in

(10:39):
to who you really are, then you're not a match
to that anyway. So instead of worrying about outside of yourself,
you can just trust your vibration that you're offering in
each moment, that that's lining you up with similar energies.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
How do you know? How do you discern and if
you're not talking or communicating with like bad entities if
you will.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
So, I guess I'll just make I only want to
connect with That's so I call in every day. I
call in my spiritual guides into my life. You love
me unconditionally to assist me, and I just likely list off.
I'm like this, this is this is there you go
because they respect our for you, this is my perspention

(11:30):
there were I think they respect our we will so
much And unless we actually say I can my full
permission to my spiritual guides of only divine life, we
love me conditionally, and then that kind of creates the
boundary that only those energies can come forth. And then yeah,

(11:50):
setting up secretly around me and my sessions, then I
feel safe in that.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Why do you think that they don't show themselves to
us as humans? Like, if the goal is to help
all humans elevate their vibration, right, how come they're not
ever they're not always present, just guiding everybody and just
keeping us away from that darkness.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Well, I think everyone comes in with at least one
kind of spirit guide. That's with them all the time. Yeah,
I guess it's like being receptive to them. So maybe
like fifteen years ago, I would have been like, oh,
angels whatever. But once you start calling them in and
you started experiencing them, so you start to kind of

(12:41):
get a feel for the different frequencies of them. So
Archangel Gabriel is for communication. It's like when you're calling
them in, you can feel their presence or you're asking
them for specific Like if I'm finding it hard to
write a difficult email, I'll ask Arcangel Gabriel to assist

(13:05):
me and just like trust and then flow. Because your
perception designs your experience, like in quantum physics with the
the what is it the double slit or the what
the observer effect? When you have like a sheet of

(13:29):
paper with a light source shining onto the sheet of
paper with two slits, it creates like a cloud of
atoms onto the wall. As soon as you measure the
light going through the two slits, then it comes up
as two slits on the wall. So it's basically shows
how our perception, our perception of reality causes what we

(13:53):
see to turn up, you know, So we can actually
reverse all that and figure out what do I want
to perceive? How can I design my perception? We all
have the ability to design our perception and so design
the reality. That kind of greets us, you know. It's

(14:15):
like you smile at the world and the moral's minds
at you. What really it's all about within us? Like
our outer reality is your reflection of within.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
I heard you mentioned earlier that you believe in source.
I need to understand. I guess where you're coming from
in terms of the origination of the source light. I
guess you could say.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
I guess it's like going back to that light on
the sun analogy, Like if all there is is light,
then like you never experience itself. So if the light
is God or source or whatever you want to call it,
then that light source had to split into individual fragments
or whatever so that we could remember that we are

(15:01):
an extension of source energy or consciousness or God or vibration.
That that consciousness needed to be separated so it can
look back on the whole and recognize that or remember
who we really are. So I think it's just consciousness

(15:22):
ever kind of well, God, our source consciousness has to
experience itself through us, you know, And then when we
step into remembering who we really are, that we are
an extension of source energy, and line up with that vibrationally,
then we have infinite power to create. And I think

(15:44):
the global elite don't want us to realize that, but
I think it's already inevitable. It's already happening.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
In Genesis one three, God said, let there be like
God said, let there be a firmaent. God said, let
the land produce vegetation. God said, let the water team
with living spirits and things like that. He said all
of this, so we are that vibration. That my thought
process on this, and I just want to go over

(16:15):
this a little bit. I've talked about this in other episodes,
but essentially, when we speak, when we currently speak words,
when we say, you know, plosive consonants like p inte,
it creates bursts of air that can form these little
tiny air vortices, if you will. And when we say
frickbills like S and F, it involves a continuous air flow, right,

(16:37):
which can produce this spiraling turbulence in the air. Resonance
sounds like M like M and N create these standing waves, right.
So there's science that backs up the fact that sound

(16:57):
creates vortices. These vortices create these magnetic fields. These magnetic
fields attract matter. Right, So everything we say material can materialize,
everything we think can materialize. Did you have that similar
thought about sound when you were doing the study of
the architecture of sound, like how it forms things, like
it builds things.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Yeah, I actually have this book here, This is what
inspired me. It's The Alchemy of Nine Dimensions by Barbara
Hanklou and she describes different dimensions. You know, I'd probably
explained that on the Too for show, but basically, yeah,

(17:41):
you can. Any sound can create that form. But I
think what's more powerful, or when you connect with your
true creative power, is the intention behind the sound being
this wild while creating the sound. So even though it
could be the same sound, the intension behind the sound

(18:02):
could be different for the light or for the dark.
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (18:07):
I see, Yeah, of course, And.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
So that kind of ties in with my unders from
the Alchemy of mind dimension. She describes the dimensions that
we can experience as humans, I mean on this planet.
So the first dimension is the iron crystal core at
the center of the Earth that creates all the gravity,
and then the distance between the iron core to the

(18:30):
Earth's crust is the two lower well and the two
D the fairies, the elementals, the crystals, the rocks, and
now we're on three D space and time. And then
there's the fourth dimension, which is kind of like where
I feel like there's like kind of astral war going
on in the fourth dimension because we've been kind of

(18:52):
there's been a frequency fence in some way for us
to experience the other dimensions and for the other dimensions
to come in. So fifth dimension will be like unconditional
love of six dimension sacred geometry, seven dimension sound, eight
dimension the intension behind the sound. So we're we're working

(19:17):
with all these at the same time. So yeah, just
it's not just about sound, it's just the beingness. It's
like what like what I'm always speaking about in my
sessions is that we're all extensions of source energy. And

(19:41):
like when we think of a memory that makes us
feel like elated or like the most uplifted or the
most tuned in, tapped in that we've ever felt in
our life, we can use that memory to retune our
inner dial, our frequency dial within us, to align with
that frequency of upliftment, and we can actually give those

(20:05):
kind of feelings to ourselves as often as we like.
Therebhy retuning our frequency. So when we think thoughts that
ring true with who we really are, then we're lined
up with source. When we think thoughts that aren't true,
that are false, that make us feel upset, we have

(20:30):
our emotional guidance system that shows us that we're disconnected
now from source because we're basically believing these lies that
we're telling ourselves. So for me, the easiest way to
flip into source is is to think about a memory
that brings me to a feeling of like elation or connection,

(20:52):
and then living from that place, then I start to
generate my own radio signal that I can broadcast out,
and then I can trust that whatever comes towards me
lines up with that. You know.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah, No, I definitely experience that every day, and I
think people who listen to the show probably experience the
same thing.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
I actually look at when we were talking, you were
talking about how we need the darkness almost to exist.
I kind of have this theory on that where that
they are in the anti matter and if you've seen
the stranger things that it would be the upside down, right,
So it's like if we are madder, then they are
anti matter. And it's just like if you look at it.
You know, obviously you have trampolines in Ireland, right, So

(21:39):
when you look at a trampoline, if you're looking at
it on the surface, it looks flat, but if you
go and stick your fist up and push up, it
looks like a mountain, right. And that's kind of how
I see, like we have to exist from the anti
matter as well, So it would be like a can.
A can is not just empty. There is in the

(21:59):
anti matter world, there is matter filling that can, if
that makes any sense. So everything that's not light and
everything that's not vibrating into physical form and to matter
is antimatter and so we need them the bad if
you will, in order to or we use them. I

(22:20):
guess you could say to create us, right for us
to exist. And I feel like there are negative entities
that don't like that obviously, and they want to be
in this physical world that we live in. And that
was kind of why I was asking the question earlier
about like how do you know if they're not you know,
if they're good or bad? That you're communicating with, because

(22:41):
I do feel like they would be the ones to
manipulate people and to say I'm your you know, your
mom or your grandma or somebody like that, and to
use that against you in order to achieve whatever it
is goal that they want to achieve.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
If you will, then you'd be a perfect vibrational match
to that kind of interaction. So that's why all you
control is the vibration you're offering within and when you're
trusting that you're lined up tuned in with source, you're
remembering who you are. You don't have to worry about that. Yeah,

(23:15):
it's like in that situation, you know that person and
the entity are a match, like belcrow, but when you
take off your side of the bell cull, that entity
can't even stick on anymore because you're commanding from your
being that your sacred space around you, which is what
I teach on my program and me that just makes

(23:39):
me feel invincible, Like the more I awaken and the
more bright I become, Like it's very clear to me
that there's entities on certain people you know around me
that are trying to pull me down. And it's not
so much that person what it's like, now that I
have these psychic protection tools, I'm like, finally, like I

(24:00):
feel invincible because I feel like we all need to
learn how to navigate the light in the dek so
that we're not yeah, getting our energy siphoned off unintentionally.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
I definitely agree when I was talking about those little
vortices that you speak, right, I feel like that we
have this magnetic field around us. Our bodies produce this
biolctric field, this energy field around us, And I feel
like when you speak certain things, if you if you're
a negative person and you have negative thoughts coming from you,

(24:38):
it's going to get kind of trapped into this, into
this little bubble around you if you will. And then
I also think that if you speak certain words, like
I said, those vibrations come out and they kind of
get stuck in your orbit. And so if you have
negative thoughts, if you say negative things, you're going to
create a negative magnet magnetic field, and so you're going
to attract negative things. So yeah, I totally get what

(25:00):
you're saying. That makes a lot of sense. Did did
you did you learn how to? Where did all this
come from? For you? Because for me, it was like
an awakening. It was like, oh, like I remember looking
up at the sun and I saw I saw light
radiating from it, and I went, oh, God is light.
That makes total sense. So for me it was like
an awakening, like an epiphany almost, and I was like, okay,

(25:22):
I gotta okay, I get it now it makes sense.
And then from that point on, that's whenever positive things
started happen to me getting better jobs, and you know,
it was like I started getting all these synchronicities and
it was like God was the Holy Spirit, was yes,
this is it, this is your path, and once you

(25:42):
vibrationally line up with that, then yes, positive things start coming.
You get better jobs, you get better houses, you get
better relationships, you get better friends and all this other stuff.
So yeah, I'm totally home board with that. But yeah,
for me, it was an epiphany. Did it come to
you that way?

Speaker 4 (25:58):
Like?

Speaker 1 (25:58):
How did you what was the precursor to studying cinmatics
in cathedrals? What was your awakening point? I guess he
is the best question to ask.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
My wakening point. I remember having like there's like a
couple of like like random memories when I was a child,
when I'm just sitting down probably just like to looking
at the light or something like that and having like
a big, oh my god, what a tiphany, but like

(26:30):
not being able to tell anyone, not knowing how to
relate to anyone. So a lot of my earlier years
is just like keeping that to myself because I didn't
have know who to speak about it with. So, yeah,
my dad was really really spiritual growing up and used
to test my psychic capabilities going into school, you know,

(26:53):
when's the next car froman all this kind of stuff,
and I yeah, we had a really really yeah, spectacular
kind of conversations about dimensions and life on other planets
and the meaning of you know, how the pyramids were built,

(27:15):
like probably from like nine to twelve, you know. And
he died when I was thirteen, so I think, yeah,
this summer before he died, I read Conversations with God,
which I know is a bit cheesy, but the essence
of what it talks about is, you know, bang on,
And I remember reading that with him and explaining all

(27:36):
these different things. So from that point I had an
awareness or a way of communicating about all those kind
of experiences. And then I guess different points in my
life punctuated further expansions, and yeah, continuing to like learning grow.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
See so that trip to Peru was the did you
say that was the point that you decided that you
wanted to study cimatics and the relationship between sound and formed.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Thereafter I did the Architecture of Sound project, So so yeah,
I was. I was living in London, and I've always
had a really peculiar connection with the Seven Sisters Star system.

(28:32):
So I've always been able to point it out into
this in the sky, the nice sky since I was
very very young, and probably when I was around twenty two,
I started reading books by Barbara Marciniac, and she channels
Pladian information. So when I think I was twenty two
and I picked up one of my dad's books that

(28:53):
I hadn't read before, and kind of he said it
brought together all the books that he was reading. And
then when I read that one, it spoke about sound
and how sound takes you to a place where your
intellect and not and I just really felt such a
strong resonance that we have no idea how powerful sound is.

(29:14):
And that kind of led me to explore that in
my master's in Saint Martin's and I ended up living
in Seven Sisters in London during that time when I
was doing the Architecture of Sound project, and I was
getting crazy dreams with like geometric kind of lights, and

(29:40):
I felt like I was getting activated. That's when I
started practicing Pleadian light work and calling in chambers of
light and making invocations with spirits. So calling in all
my spiritual guides of divine light, great spirit of divine light,
you know, let me be employed by you, help me

(30:01):
to work and show me what I can do. Because
I knew that there was something about sound and vibration
and form, and it was like this cassion was leading
me to research, and then every day I was calling
in my spiritual guides to collaborate with me and show
me the way. So when you look at this Architecture

(30:23):
Sound project, it looks like, oh wow, that perfectly makes sense. Well,
it was probably only until two weeks before I had
to pull the whole project together that it suddenly winded
up and made sense. So all I was doing was
following my intuition and whatever, kind of like Ariagne in

(30:46):
the Greek myth, following that thread out of the labyrinth.
It's like when anyone can full out remember who they
are and in both you know, great spirit of the
light to show them their path. And then it's the
willing and the trust that it is that it's going
to be revealed to you, but you have to start
snirting for it. And then as things pop up and

(31:08):
you can feel that resonance with that feeling of the passion,
then you they all start lining up.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
And then once you bring it all together, you're like, WHOA,
that's kind of how my architecture exund might didn't worked,
So it wasn't a conscious development, but it was kind
of a synchronistic kind of.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Path that I was following.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Can you explain the device you used to record the
cymatics of and explain the whole process if you don't mind,
because I have read the study, but for those who
are listening, you know they might not know. So.

Speaker 6 (31:47):
So cymatics is the science that studies the geometric patterns
rereadableth sound vibrations. And I use churches because they were
a metaphor for the form, because they were designed, especially
these churches that I recorded were designed with sacred geometry, So.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
The proportion between your feet and your belly button and
your belly button to the top of your head is
basically the geometric code that's in all of nature. So
because churches are built with this ratio, I wanted to
report them, and basically I recorded the resonant frequencies of

(32:31):
the churches. I'll explain how I did that. And then
I had a cymatic device that allowed me to play
these frequencies through a speaker filled with water, and the
frequencies created trafts and flows in the waters edges as

(32:52):
it was vibrating with the sounds, but taking fast pictures
of the geometric patterns on the water surface and then
use and then discovered that these patterns were like five
point stars within pentagons or rot was windows with patterns,
and then I carved those that the churches were built from.

(33:13):
So architectures frozen music and music is liquid architecture. So
I recorded the resonance we could be using a technique
why Alda Luce here in the nineteen seventies from a
PC does twelve. I'm sitting in a room, so anyone
can do this and you just record the silence. I

(33:36):
wasn't even in the churches because I felt like my
vibration would affect it. So all the churches were empty.
So I recorded the space for about six minutes, and
then got that recording and played it back into the
space while we're recording it, got that recording, laid it
into the space while we're recording it again, completed that

(33:59):
look about five or six depending on the size of
the church. And yeah, and some of these churches, the
resonant frequency once I was playing it through was actually
rattling the glass and the churches, and it was literally
running across the churches. Is part off the speaker. Well,

(34:22):
I was living in a flat and seven sisters with
windows all over my whole bedroom, and when I did
that same process in my bedroom, it was a great
high prequency noise because of all the glass. And then
in the churches it s built with portland stone, so
the sound was like really deep sound. And then the

(34:45):
cimagic device I think it was Seymoscope was the website
that I kind of got a model of how to
stir playing around with it. So I had a fifteen
minutes soaking for these speaker and then I got I
carved out a piece of wood using rhino kind of

(35:07):
you know, I don't remember what it's called, but you
know those etching kind of etching out the perfect pattern
onto the wood. So the wood was exactly the same
shape as the speaker, and then I got a piece
of fan plastic fact he performed the wood. I had

(35:27):
a thin layer of plastics of on top of my
fifteen inches soaking for a base speaker. And then inside
the speaker there's like a cone. So once the water
was just like just muvered the cone, that's when I
would start. And so I had lots of lots of frequencies,

(35:48):
obviously because I was recording it for so long, So
I looked for the most common one that kept popping up,
and then I put out a tiny frequency within that
brought down the BAP and started taking features with like
a sewing light, just like our green light. So when
there was no sound coming out, you can just see

(36:10):
a circle of light. And as the as a speaker
started playing the sound and stopping sounds, that pattern would
emerge the smaller section of the sound. I clipped out,
and yeah, that's kind of why slow sound reading form.

(36:31):
And it's like we only get glimmers of that multi
dimensional aspect in three D, where where yeah, how sound
literally creates a living.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Form when I look at old architecture, to me, it
just seems so perfect. It seems impossible to create nowadays,
like we couldn't do it for some reason. And when
I look at stuff like these old cathedrals, like at
Notre Dame and Duomo di Milano, I believe it's called

(37:10):
the which is the cathedral in Milan in Italy. I
look at those and I go, that looks like it
was like sand piled up and then people harmonizing or
singing or some kind of a vibration created that, like
stretched it up and made it this beautiful building. Am
I way off in thinking that? Is it possible that

(37:32):
some of these places were built using sound?

Speaker 3 (37:37):
I mean, if you think about the geometric code and
how you can put that in architecture, and it's also
in sound to make music sound harmonious, then like these
churches that I recorded, some of them are falling to pieces,
but there are still orchestras that came there to rehearse,

(37:58):
so because of the resonance. So I think again, going
back to that geometric code, the golden ratio that's in
everything in nature. When you combine that in architecture and
then use sound, that's also harmonic to that ratio it's

(38:19):
going to create. I mean, I think that's where they
were aspiring to, you know, back in the enlightened periods,
to use that to connect further with you know, who
we really are. But for me, my experience of recording

(38:39):
in those churches, I mean, a lot of those churches
felt very dark to me. What maybe they when they
were when they were built. It was a different feeling
what I am.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
We know that sound can shatter glass, so if that's true,
then it must be true that sound can build things
as well. And that's the reason I asked that did
the Did the cimatics match the rose windows that were
on the front of the cathedrals when you recorded these?
They didn't.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Similar kind of pattern.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Similar patterns though, Okay, whenever, what do you think of
rose windows? I'll just ask you, because you're probably more
of an expert on it than I am. What What
is the significance of them? Why would they have such
a specific geometric pattern on the front of these buildings.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
I'm not sure. When I was looking, when I was
making the the cimatic patterns, there was a kind of
foliage kind of pattern that you see in the plaster
work in the churches that looks like very very very similar.
So I don't I don't know the answer to that question, Wash.

(39:56):
I do think those churches were built on like interestingtions
of lay lines, like where I was living in. So
it's like it's like the dark and the light use
similar tools but for different intentions. So probably they might
have been pagan sits beforehand, like in Ireland, a lot

(40:17):
of pagan sites or goddesses are pain saints, but before
they were Christians, they were actually pagan, and that those
intersections of lay lines had a page kind of structure,
and then I think Christianity woul kind of usurp that
with their own power. So dark energies can line up

(40:42):
at intersections and lay lines and do stuff, and light
energy can do that. I don't. I mean, I respect
all religions, and I think they're all like you know,
leading to source if it's if it's an experience that
they're experiencing.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
What.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Yeah, I think these churches probably were used to kind
of intumuinate the local people into like giving them a
glimmer of what could be what. Yeah, I don't really
feel it didn't feel like there was a light energy

(41:32):
in the churches that I went to. I feel like
there's a controlling in Eugene. A lot of the churches
that I go to. Yes, of course the harmony and
the atmeistics and the beauty that opens our heart, which
it's like the dimensions, the sound and the sacred geometry
which opens our heart, But why are they doing that

(41:53):
and using that for the good or for other reasons?
So I guess it depends.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Personally believe it's just my I have nothing to back
it up. It's just my feeling, my intuit my intuition
on it. But I personally believe that when we become sick,
it's because our atoms aren't vibrating in harmony together. So
I felt I feel like some of these places, some
of these what people call sacred places, they would go

(42:23):
and get you know, quote unquote healed at these places.
And so for me, when orestee like rose windows on
the front of a cathedral, I think I take it
as like that's an alignment for a specific ailment, Like
if you're if you're out of vibration for this or
out of harmony for for this thing, then you go
there for that specific vibration. I'm sure, I could be

(42:45):
wrong with that, but that's sort of my my thought
on it. And I'm glad you brought up the lay
lines because I agree. I do think that they're lay
lined there. All these old churches. You know, maybe they
were taken over from the Pagans like you said, But
graveyards are build on these places as well. They're built
on lay lines of their you know, the domens and

(43:07):
the passage mounds and the stone hinges and all that,
these stone circles and all that stuff, they were all
built there, and then they were used by people like
author and Merlin and people like that to convince people
that these were these magic healing places, if you will.
And I do feel like some people were using that,
like you said, good and bad. But I do feel

(43:27):
like that they're energetic points where things come into our reality.
They can come into our reality. That's why you see
a lot of fairies and things like that around these
different sites, these glowing orbs, these balls of light, if
you will. So I'm just cautious, I guess. I'm just
you know, because I feel like we're here to have
a human experience on Earth. It's supposed to be unique, Like,

(43:51):
why do we need to access information from anyone anything,
any entity, good or bad. Shouldn't we just be here
to have that human experience and to learn, like why
do we need guides and all this other stuff? So
I think that there are there have been people throughout
history who know that this stuff is going on like that.
They can tap into these other realms if you will,

(44:12):
and they can tap into these energies, whether that's good
or bad energy. Because electric and magnetic fields are oscillating fields, right,
they have the male and the female female energy. So
I think if you do tap into some one or
the other, you're going to get good or bad intentions
and feelings and things like that. But I think that

(44:32):
there have been people throughout history, and I think you're
right to some degree with with the old cathedrals and stuff.
People who won't power over people will tell them certain
things to make them think that they have this this
divine appointment from God to heal people or what have you.
But I say all that because I feel like a

(44:54):
lot of these places, these cathedrals, even like I said,
the you know people who look at pyramids, they say
they're all barrel mounds and all this stuff. I don't
think so, I think that they were the same as
what modern day churches are. There's just places where people
can go to access energies and things like that. You know,
I don't want to muddy the waters with my thoughts

(45:15):
in this. I mean, obviously I have you on the
show to share your ideas, but I do find it
fascinating that you felt called to go and study these
things and to record the sibmatics. And by the way,
all your artwork is amazing, is beautiful, your pictures are beautiful.
Everything is incredible. And I feel like that there is
this underlying geometry with all of us, Like you said that,

(45:36):
I mean even your finger, the small bone to your
finger to the next bone to the next bone, and
then your wrist to your elbow, and your elbow to
your full arm. That is even a golden ratio.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
Right.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
So, but again I think I think that all that
has been hijacked in some way, like we've we're out
of alignment with ourself, we're out of alignment with source.
And I mentioned earlier, how you know, do ray me
faster Lati dough Like if we're at dough, we can
resonate with law, right, but we have to be matched

(46:08):
on that and does that make sense?

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Yeah? I think that kind of makes helps me understand
like multi dimensionality, Like like say, if you press middle
C on the piano, then all the other c's vibrate,
So we can't we kind of have our blinkers on
and through dimension because we can already perceive other dimensions

(46:31):
so easily. But when you think about, you know what
we're vibrating in right now in three D, then you
can be sure that other multi dimensional energies are also
lined up with that energy, you know. So does that
make sense that?

Speaker 7 (46:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Yeah, I didn't mean to have a word salad of
stuff all ago, and I was just saying a bunch
of things. But what I was trying to get at
is like I do feel like that there are energetic
hot spots that can be manipulated for good and bad reasons,
and I think mostly it's been manipulated for bad reasons.
And I think that it's up to us. It's up
to the individual to recognize their own resonance. And like

(47:11):
you said, you got to it's a maybe it's a
happy place that you're at at one point in your life,
and you try to try to match that love and
that energy that you have and then try to resonate
at that next you know, do re Me Foster Lazzisa.
You're trying to get constantly get to that higher form
of yourself if you will, and you're right, you do

(47:32):
feel invincible when you start resonating at these higher levels.
It's like it almost feels like surreal sometimes because it's
like it doesn't really make sense because you're not doing
anything special, but yet somehow good things keep happening to you.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Yeah, it's like you have such stronger moment awareness of
your pleasure and joy, and it's like being so aware
of that and trusting that whatever is coming towards you
is like lining up the ash. But it's this in
the moment, like it's like you're giving your own presence
of love to yourself and then you can trust that,

(48:12):
like we can't control anything outside of us, well we can,
we can. We can control the vibration we're offering. And
then once we are feeling lined up with that, then
then it's like aligning alignment, then take action alignment, then
make the difficult phone call.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
You know, I one hundred percent agree. In fact now
I felt like there was before I left my last job,
I felt like there was a presence that's kind of
holding me back. And then when I quit my job,
I said, I gotta do something for myself. I'm I
am better than that. I can do better than you know,

(48:53):
twenty dollars an hour. I can do better than whatever
the case was. And then once I let go and
I just let God take over and just just literally
let God work through me in ways, I just started
listening and everything just started opening up. And then I
just started just kind of going wherever He leaves me,
and I never know where I'm going next. The conversation

(49:17):
we're having now is kind of like a Honestly, I
don't really plan things out months in advance. Typically it's
usually like, hey, you want to come on the show
today or tomorrow or next week or whatever, and then
I just make it happen. And that's how I live
my life as well. I don't worry about where money's
going to come from tomorrow. And this just happened to me,
and this has happened to me many times. Every time
I get almost no money in my account, literally fifty dollars,

(49:41):
twenty dollars, I've been down to fifty cent before and
I just have this this unmatchable like it's going to
be okay, I don't care. Whatever happens happens. And it
just happened to me yesterday. I started. I live for others,
you know, like I baseball, and I'm always giving people

(50:02):
the shirt off my back if i have to. I mean,
I'm giving them my last dollar if I have to,
whatever the case is. And I'm not suggesting that everybody
goes out and do that does that. I'm suggesting that
you live for God and let God put you into
places that he needs you, and then good things will
come to you. Because I took I made the decision
to kind of go, okay, I'm going to go full

(50:23):
force with this show rather than do build websites and
all this other stuff. I'll still build websites and take photos.
But when you do something like that, when you jump
off the cliff, you just got to hope that that
parachute's going to open. That's what started to happen, is
like every time I just jump and I hope the
parachute's going to open, and trust that the parachute's going
to open, then good things happened. I mean, I was

(50:45):
down to like almost no money here recently, and then
my wife came to me yesterday and she's like, this
happened and now we have thousands more, and I'm like,
holy crap, it's amazing. It's like it's always like that.
When we were building our house, my wife kept saying,
we're not going to be able to afford it, and
I was like, we will. Truthfully, we didn't really have
the money to build a house, but it was cheaper

(51:05):
than buying a house that was already built. So I
was like, we're going to make it happen no matter what.
And I had this unwavering feeling that everything was going
to be okay. And when we built the house, we
got all the construction loans and everything out, and just
before we closed, the bank said you owe us one
more payment of twelve two hundred dollars and fifty four

(51:27):
cent right, And I was like, oh, what are we
going to do? You know, it's kind of like nervous.
And I just so happened to start selling baseball cards
like a few months before that, and I bought a
baseball card of a guy who happened to get really popular,
and so his card was really cheap. When I bought it,
but then whenever I sold it, I sold it for
sixteen hundred dollars, right. eBay took their cut of it,

(51:51):
taxes and all this other stuff, and I ended up
with the exact amount I needed to the penny to
pay that mortgage. And it was because I think that,
you know, aligning with Source, like I was lining up
with Source, and I was letting God just take control
rather than you know, worry about I think worry and

(52:13):
fear and anxiety holds us back in that vibration. It
holds us back in that negative vibration, that slow vibration, right,
And you can see that with geometric patterns. Typically the
low vibration will create this kind of a dull geometry, right,
and then this high vibration will create this beautiful, almost
like flower of life looking intricate geometric shape. And that's

(52:37):
what that geometric shape, that beautiful shape, the most beautiful
shape is love and authenticity and light. And that's God
and that's love and that's Jesus, right, and for me,
it's Jesus. And so when you resonate in that frequency,
these things will happen just out of the blue. You
will get blessed with things out of the blue. You know,

(52:57):
I've talked about this with a friend of mine named Paul.
I believe he's from the UK as well. He was
telling me how he did the same thing writing a book.
He let go and just let God and then all
of a sudden, you know, he didn't have money to
pay for his car breaking down or something like that,
and then all of a sudden, somebody donated six hundred
bucks to him and he had enough money to fix it. It

(53:19):
was just enough money to fix his car. And I've
heard countless stories like that, and for me, it's always
the same, the same idea behind it. When you just
let go of your fear and anxiety and all this stuff,
then good things will start happening to you. Is that
the kind of stuff you teach by the way with your.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
That's exactly what like, Yeah, that's what That's what I
got the journey I guide people through in my program.
So I make an invocation for my work that I
attract people who are ready to work with the higher
counsel of life and lining up with their highest divine

(53:56):
good to work through me with them. And and yeah,
so my program's called Awaken your light within, and yeah,
it's just learning to have psychic protection tools so you
feel invincible, and then learning to tune your frequency to

(54:20):
to your own upliftment, to your own true essence. And
like sometimes I even like setting alarm for like five
minutes and I just like state in this frequency, And
the more my clients are doing it, the more they're
kind of waking up in that feeling. And it's like
taking that leap of faith, as you say, because it's

(54:42):
like being in the knowing that you are in extensives
to our s energy and when you act on that bravely,
it always lines up. And yeah, just yeah, it's just
also just clearing any kind of blocks on their time
line that's holding them back from from expressing their true essence.

(55:05):
I think the essence is all the same, really, it's
just if people are having their own experience of spirituality.
You know, I have friends who are all religions and
we have the same kind of chats. It doesn't matter
what the it doesn't matter what the how you access it.
But once you have your own like spiritual connection and

(55:28):
you're receptive to connecting with God or source, then the
science start popping up because you're open to it.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Where did the idea of like work practice originate from?
Was it from like mystery schools, So.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
I mean started played in light work. She channeled it
in the nineties, so it would have come from ancient
mystery schools from Limoria, inypt Egypt, Atlanta. And so this
healing modality was designed for helping people as send rapidly
and clear karma that no longer serves them that they've

(56:11):
been carrying around for thousands of years and it's just
like ready to live, but they're still carrying it around
clearing beliefs and behaviors. So basically that's where it originated from.
And yeah, like I've had past lives where I've definitely

(56:35):
practice this modality before, or even had lifetimes where all
the stuff that I did with the church project and
the cimatics, it's like having being on a council and
I had a kind of crystal over my third eye

(56:56):
and I would look into portals for information and then
it was to do with alchemy and vibration and metals,
and like remembering that lifetime kind of and then knowing
my artwork now or remembering those times in past lives
when I also practice this kind of form of light work.

(57:17):
It's like it's like a remembrance and like what I
was kind of meant to do here.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Okay, one final question and we'll go ahead and wrap
this up. Do you think that we are in a
great awakening right now? Are we heading towards some newer
version of Earth or new version of ourselves?

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Yeah, definitely, And I think we're shedding lots, like astrologically
at the moment with all these solar eclipses and where
this it clicks portal and a lot of people are
coming to me because they've been hiding in the in
the gutters, and they be knowing who they require. They're
like come forward in so many people, all the people

(57:57):
coming to me in my program are ready to come
out fighting and actually shine brightly because for whatever reason
when they were born or you know, how they were
brought up, they had to dim their life just to
survive or get their Basically it's mess. And now it's
like and then fearing the wits wund of like being
seen and expressing our life. And so many people are

(58:21):
coming to me now to assist them and like fearing
what's blocking them from expressing their true life. So I
feel like it's inevitable, and yeah, it's a very exciting
time to bee a lot.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
I definitely agree. I feel like, well, this goes back
to the Bible again, this goes back to New Earth.
Like we are sort of vibrating into this new version.
We're kind of leaving this old, this old negative energy behind,
and I personally think that we're heading towards what I
call the age of authenticity, where it's it's going to

(59:02):
be harder and harder for people to deceive people, like
you can see it now with news and media and
all this other stuff. I think authenticity will resonate at
a much higher frequency than what's been Then you mentioned
somebody dim in your light, right, I do think that
that was happening, and I think it's I personally believe
it's been deliberate by whatever evil energy has ruled this

(59:27):
world for the last couple thousand years, for the last
thousand years, maybe last couple hundred years, I don't know.
And I think that we're kind of shedding that we're
shedding that old skin and we're heading toward a newer
version of ourself. It's almost like that tool song forty
six and two I believe it's the name of the
song where it's like you're kind of metamorphosizing into a

(59:52):
newer version, like a caterpillar almost, you know, turning into
a butterfly. And I think that, like I said that,
it's going to be a lot more love. I think
there's gonna be growing pains, obviously, like as we do
this split, there's going to be a lot of people
fighting against us. There's gonna be a lot of spiritual warfare,
and I think I think those who are working with

(01:00:15):
the darkness will be left behind, and I think those
who are positive and share ideas of love and harmony
and all this other stuff will move forward into maybe
a new dimension. I don't know what you would call
new Earth, like that's from a biblical lens, that's what
they say new Earth. I don't know what you would

(01:00:36):
call that, because I'm not really clear on that, because
I don't know. I don't know the future, I don't know.
I can only intuitively say how I feel and what's happening,
because I have said it before on this show too,
that this show resonates with people and I don't know why.
The only thing I can think is that I'm saying
something that is true or authentic, or you know, maybe

(01:01:00):
everybody's feeling too that they don't want to say, but
they have their own ideas and they don't want to
question this, that or the other about certain things about
certain religions, like you know, why are we praying the
statues again? Why are we doing this? And they all
these other different things, all these other rights and rituals
while we have to blow smoke around the room, you know,
all these other different things that you were kind of taught.

(01:01:21):
I think that we can look inward and access that
light anytime, you know, we don't have to go through
some sort of an authority. We don't have to go
through some sort of a guy with a row bone,
you know, or a guy with a suit, you know,
on a suit and tie. We can access that divinity
anytime we look in and anytime we pray. But I
think that there are people who have corrupted that, and

(01:01:43):
I think that there are people who have started to
realize that. And I think twenty twenty was probably a
big thing that woke a lot of people up and said, Okay,
something strange is going on here. Let me start, you know,
emerging as how I really feel and because it was
a sort of a dark cloud on the world. And
I've mentioned it, how I think hindsight twenty twenty, when

(01:02:06):
you know, we've always heard the word hindsight twenty twenty,
maybe twenty twenty was the moment that started that split
started to happen, you know, And hindsight is twenty twenty.
We're leaving that old negative world behind. But I think
what we're seeing right now with political assassinations and all
this other stuff, that they are there are people who

(01:02:27):
help run the darkness in this world, who are kicking
and screaming. They're the global elites, and they're not going
to go down without a fight. Pretty much, They're gonna
and I think that's what we're kind of seeing. Unfortunately,
with wars and with violence and all this other stuff.
I just don't think they're going to win through. I
think the light will win. I think good will win.

(01:02:48):
It will defeat the darkness, and we will just emerge
into a new place where everybody's living in harmony with
each other and loving each other. And it's hard to
see that right now. It's hard to find people who
are doing that. But I think that if as long
as there's good people out there saying these things and
putting those frequencies out there and creating that energy, then

(01:03:09):
I think positive things will happen. But I think we
have to learn how to tune the media out, and
we have to remember that we have a lot of power.
We have a lot of creative power with our thoughts
and our words and our how we you know, and
our intentions like you mentioned, because that intention is the
amplifier for that frequency. It is what pushes that forward,

(01:03:31):
It is what helps mold that reality that we want
to create. And I think if everybody was to say
things more often like love is coming rather than the
end of the world is coming, then love will come. Right.
So I think that there's been a grip on the

(01:03:52):
people of the world through the media to get us
to create a reality for them rather than the reality
that we want. Everybody wants love, everybody wants peace. Nobody
wants wars in the Middle East, nobody wants wars in
Russia and Ukraine. I think everybody, collectively, the collective consciousness,
wants better, but we never get better, you know, we

(01:04:15):
never get that, and we're constantly fed a narrative to
divide each other rather than unite us, because anytime anybody
has ever said something about uniting under love, they've been assassinated. Right,
You got Martin Luther King Junior, and John F. Kennedy
and John Lennon, and everybody who's talked about love has

(01:04:37):
been assassinated. And so I think that we have to
keep pushing that. They can't. They can't stop the collective
consciousness from creating the world that we want to create.
We just have to be the ones who put that
positive message out there so everybody can latch onto that

(01:04:57):
vibration rather than latching onto the negative vibration of fear
and anxiety and divide and all this other stuff. I
know that the world is not like what they show
on TV because I live it every day. I go
to gas stations, I go to grocery stores, I go
to restaurants. I interact with people every day. People aren't racists,
people aren't crazy as they say they are. Everybody's pretty

(01:05:19):
pretty calm and helpful and holding the doors for people
and saying thank you and please. It's not like what
they're telling us it is. And so I just think
that we have to be a positive voice to create
positive change. In the world, and I think that's the
point of the show. And you know, I kind of
got long winded there, but that's why I'm having people
like you and who who are you know? Talking about

(01:05:41):
a message of light. It's definitely a different message than
how I would normally present it, but it's sounds pretty similar.
Light love, energy, let's go. Let's go in that direction.
I don't care about all the negative stuff, So.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Yeah, I think they'll always be lja and dark. It's
like getting out of the polarity of us and into
like unity and diversity and not being so scared of
the dark because everyone thinks the darkness is more powerful
than the light. But when you you know, I don't
feel like, you know, going to protests with Forgaza and stuff.

(01:06:16):
For me, that doesn't feel like I'm offering anything. It
feels like I'm creating. I'm creating more anxiety and stress
for myself, so I can't really offer much to the collective.
But if I'm focused for me, this is how I
deal with it. Is like I can only control my

(01:06:38):
light within and not be scared of the dark or
the light, and be sovereign in my own expression as
a light being. And however, how I raise my consciousness,
then that's what I'm offering to the collective. But I
think everyone's I feel like there is a infectious kind

(01:07:02):
of ripple of awakening, of awakening to our sovereignty and
our choice and how we vibrate because I think the
global elitia, you know, in this four dimensional kind of
astral war, it's like there's non physical energies that siphon
off our fear and chaos, you know, from millions of

(01:07:24):
people are watching the news, then they're banking on that,
or even films or TV, they're banking on the emotions
that are releasing. So these entities are speeding off that
fearing chaos and you know, little setup set up events
of whatever. Publicly, politically, we don't create this big oh

(01:07:44):
my god, because they're trying to feel like we're not
in a state world. But I know that if our
critisn't start, somebody's going to come along and help us.
You know, somebody's going to give us a jump. And
but it's our frequency. We can take responsibility of that.

(01:08:04):
And then we're offering the new work we're creating, recreating
the new Earth where there's so many probable timelines available
to all of us. But like where where are we?
We can only control where we're going by how we're
vibe reading within. Yeah, and there's no need to judge
other people like that are in darkness because we've all

(01:08:28):
gone through the darkness ourselves. We've had dark lives, everybody has,
and so we can say, oh, that person is less
evolved than us or darker than us. Well, probably more
than likely we were where they were at some point
and the only difference between them and us is time.

(01:08:50):
So we've become what we judge. So I think this
polarity thing is like this judgment kind of Yeah, just
if everyone's constantly judging outside, like we should just be
focusing insight and what we can offer because you know,

(01:09:12):
everybody's learning and evolving in their perfect way, even the dark,
because they are exactly where they need to be right
now in their learning and growing. And so it's like
releasing the judgment which creates the neutrality and ability to
be in unity and diversity, you know, or offer that

(01:09:34):
vibration which stops the dark and the light in the dark.
We all have dark and lightness in us.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Yeah, and you could do that very easily too, by
the way, for anyone who cares to try it, just
try to be positive. Try to be more positive. I'm
not always positive, I'll promise you, but whenever I do
try to push positivity, there's always better outcomes for me.
Anytime I'm anytime I'm negative or in a negative headspace,

(01:10:07):
negative things definitely start happening. So anyhow, I think the
idea is to like, we're all on the same we're
all in the same book. We're just on different pages. No,
but we'll all get there eventually. We're not better than
anybody else. We're not trying to be better than anybody
else by saying things like this. It's just that we

(01:10:28):
have realized that we have taken our power back from
these entities, these egg regards, these negative energies, whatever you
want to call them. They have sucked the life out
of us, and they will continue to siphon our energy
if we don't take our sovereignty back, if we don't
take our free will back. You can you can have
the most freedom just by having the peace of mind

(01:10:52):
and taking back your authority over the powers to be,
even even as they get their boot on your neck.
Just try to have that frame of mind, that presence
of understanding that they can't take your light from you
no matter what they do. Like you said, the darkness
is not more powerful than the light by no means. So,

(01:11:16):
But again that's not to say that. Again, I know
you're not perfect. I know I'm not perfect. We still
have our moments where we cuss it traffic and where
we you know, why'd you cut me in line? Or
whatever the case is. But I think that everything that
happens to us happens to us because we're supposed to
learn something like if someone cuts you off in line.

(01:11:37):
I had a woman going really slow in front of me,
and it was driving me crazy when I was driving
the other day, and all I could think was like,
get out of my way, lady, you know. But then
eventually I realized, like maybe God was slowing me down.
Maybe he was preventing me from getting into a car accident.
Maybe he was trying to help me see something in
the woods. Maybe I was supposed to see a tree

(01:11:59):
or something, or some flower or something that just slow
my life down. But I think that I think that
everything has its purpose and we are here to learn,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
Whatever we're into. Our reality is exactly perfect because it's
obviously a match to what's going on inside of us.
So that's when we get to actually deliberately place ourselves
in vibration as opposed to being in our frequency saturated society.

(01:12:31):
It's like, Oh, we can actually choose what frequency we
want to admit. And I think that's the key, and
that's what they're thanking on us not realizing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
Tellia, you've been in a great guest. I really appreciate
you answering all my questions and be impatient with me
while I babble on and on about everything. Do you
have anything that you would like to plug or promote
before we get out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
Yeah, just anyone listening and feels a resonance with what
we've been talking about. Yeah, please reach out to me
on my website and yeah, let's do a discovery call
and see you for a match from my program, because
I yes, Spirits called me to offer this because I

(01:13:19):
know I can help people step into their true essence.
So yeah, it would be.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
Thank you for your work on the architecture of sound.
Like I said, it was a pivotal piece of information
for helping me in my awakening. So thank you very
much for doing that, And thank you to Toe for
Gardner for connecting us together so we can have this conversation.
I was really excited and to have this conversation because
I admire what she did, especially with the simatic stuff.

(01:13:49):
So thank you for coming on here and enlightening us
with everything you've done and everything you're doing. I really
appreciate you. Thank you very much.

Speaker 7 (01:14:18):
But I'm standing at.

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
The gross from I don't know where to our news
and control, trying not to see my soul.

Speaker 7 (01:14:28):
I'm standing at the growl room.

Speaker 4 (01:14:31):
I don't know where to our news and control.

Speaker 7 (01:14:36):
Trying not to sell.

Speaker 8 (01:14:38):
You want me in the right direction, God send me
your blessing. I'm so tired of stress. Its music's turn
to obsession, upsession. I got a long way to go
to ease my family, my clothes soaking, wet, bikes and sweat,
and the ring going happens and habits and wish and
I could change all my mistakes.

Speaker 7 (01:14:58):
But y'all be half down, don't.

Speaker 8 (01:15:00):
He'll fall out and read little things that I saw
Louis and Nation from the outer hall.

Speaker 7 (01:15:07):
But now I can stop my own fall. I gotta
stands tall.

Speaker 8 (01:15:10):
Don't become a scene open down.

Speaker 7 (01:15:12):
The Dorbo sank the church here so dead.

Speaker 8 (01:15:14):
Lord, But I'm standing at the gross.

Speaker 7 (01:15:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
Which our news and control, trying not to see my soul.

Speaker 7 (01:15:29):
I'm standing at the gross.

Speaker 4 (01:15:31):
I don't know which our news and control, trying.

Speaker 8 (01:15:37):
Not yourself now sitting back thinking about the man a
rips now, I don't know who's a friend of me.
These people act like they can to me, Well, that's
still a miss to rip a mess.

Speaker 7 (01:15:49):
Never wants me to.

Speaker 8 (01:15:50):
Lose my my religion.

Speaker 7 (01:15:54):
But I won't stop what I find. I won't give it,
won't give. I'm gonna sit down right here and pray.

Speaker 8 (01:16:02):
And that's the Lord above the help and change my
way today. The world's staying with green and by you
move a to him, bam the byrection to the break.

Speaker 7 (01:16:10):
You can love me. Hey, I'm in a don't break.

Speaker 8 (01:16:12):
I'm at the cross room, trying to find my way.

Speaker 7 (01:16:15):
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But I'm standing at the gross.

Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
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not to see my soul.

Speaker 7 (01:16:29):
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Speaker 4 (01:16:32):
I don't know which our news a control, trying not.

Speaker 7 (01:16:38):
To sell soon got me got me openside, like shooting
the wig.

Speaker 8 (01:16:48):
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open inside.

Speaker 7 (01:16:55):
Like the Take Mine, shooting the Wig.

Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
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to our names A control.

Speaker 7 (01:17:07):
Trying not to see my soul. I'm standing at the
cross Bones.

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Speaker 7 (01:17:18):
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the crows Fo.

Speaker 4 (01:17:22):
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Speaker 7 (01:17:28):
Trying not to see my soul. I'm standing at the
cross phone. I don't know where to go.

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