Genesis Giants: Nephilim, Fallen Angels, Portals, Mt Hermon, Secret Societies, Royal Bloodlines, & Biblical Prophecies w/ Gary Wayne

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Speaker 1 (01:06):
Welcome back to the Awakened podcast. I'm your host Brad Leale,
and join me on the show today is author and
researcher of biblical prophecy and ancient history, Gary Wayne. Mister
Wayne is the author of The Genesis six Conspiracy, How
secret societies and the descendants of giants plan to enslave
humankind and hopefully we'll be able to get into all
of that in this conversation today. Mister Wayne, it's a

(01:29):
pleasure to have you on, sir, thank you for joining me.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Well, thank you for inviting me, and very much looking
forward to the show. And for people who aren't aware
that I have a sequel out, that's this one and
it's the Genesis sixth Conspiracy Part two, and it's got
a little bit different subtitle talking about similar topics and
so The subtitle is how understanding prehistory and Giants helps

(01:55):
to define end time prophecy. And it's actually a project
I said I would never do, and I actually was
working on another book that I'm trying to get back
to and I was struggling with. But when I did
this book, I learned how to do book three that
I'm working on. And so the reason why I wrote

(02:16):
book two was is so many Christians loved Book one,
but they wanted somebody to say, we understand how the
Bible intersects with the global testimony. But what we really
need somebody to do is to take that kind of
research that you did in book one and apply that

(02:38):
to the Bible and write a Bible specifically for Christians,
because I'm trying to get invite everybody into the concept
in book one that we have common legacy. It's seen
through a common history, a common future, and it's seen
through different lenses Monotheus lens, secular lens, Polytheus lens, and

(03:00):
there are distinctions in terms of what the outcome is
going to be, but it's talking about the same events.
So the challenge was is how do I do this
and not be redundant? That's why I didn't want to
do a sequel, but the challenge because nobody has gone
really deep into the Bible in terms of the Old Testament,

(03:24):
in terms of prehistory, in terms of giants, and then
nobody has really connected that well to end time prophecy
and why it's important to understand that. I thought, well,
maybe I can do that and not be redundant. So
this is like ninety percent new information, and so it

(03:44):
was kind of interesting to do the project because again
I wanted to be presenting new information, but didn't want
to be sort of having to go through everything I
was talking about in book one and not always referencing
back to it. I do have references that I'm using
from book one, but Book two is kind for Christians,

(04:05):
it's book one on steroids, and if people are familiar
with doctor Heiser's work, it's doctor Heiser on steroids. And
what I was able to do and I didn't use
it in book one was tap into all the other
research that I didn't show directly in book one and
then expand on the information. And what I mean by

(04:26):
that is when I'm using outside biblical texts and even
for the most part, using like books of Enoch, I
want to know, and I wanted to present what the
adversaries and the spurious religions were presenting in terms of
their understanding of that and what they plan to do

(04:50):
with that information. So I used them their sources, even
though I already had the sources in behind, which I
bring sort of front and center. So if I want
in Book two to to quote out of the Book
of Enoch, I'm quoting directly out of that. If i
want to quote something directly from Hesiod, I'm going to
do that. If I'm going to quote anything in the Bible,

(05:11):
obviously I'm going to use that, and also using the
KGV in Book two versus the NIV, which is more
modern language. But again I was trying that's the book
I came back to christ On or the Bible. I
came back to christ On, and also I wanted to
be have it written in a way that other people
would give the Bible a look.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
What inspired you to write the Genesis sixth conspiracy?

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Initially it was a thought process, and then something I
wanted to get out of, and then something I just
couldn't sort of leave, and so I got into Bible
prophecy and my path back to Christ through a challenge
that I took to read a book by Hal Lindsay,

(05:56):
who was a prolific author in the seventies and eighties
on and just died recently, and he wrote a book
called The Late Great Planet Earth. So that's an endtime
prophecy book, and it scared the socks off of me
when I took the challenge to read it, and I
couldn't verify it. Now, I'm a contrarian, so I'm you know,
from a biblical perspective, that would be brilling, Like I

(06:18):
want to verify everything that Paul was saying, just as
I want to verify anything that Hal was saying. And
so the only way I could really do that properly
is is to start researching the Bible and researching it
by reading it. And it's such a big book. So
as I was doing that and logging all the different

(06:38):
prophecy trails over over fifteen years, just putting them into
files and into narratives so that I could understand how
that stream would work, and then putting those together, which
became fairly easy because you have all the pieces to
the Bible for the most part, in terms of the prophecy.
When you do that, I decided, you know, I have
a lot of information here that, from what I'm aware of,

(07:02):
I haven't seen written about prophetically But as I was
doing that research, I came across Genesis six pretty quick,
which created this huge cognizant dissonance in my brain that
had almost exploded. It's like, whatever giants are, I don't
want anything to do with, right, that's crazy stuff, that's
bizarro world. That's just not what I'm here for. So

(07:25):
I ignored it for the first number of times in
going through reading and logging as I was going. But
at some point in time you realize there's too much
here and I didn't know what I was going to
do with it, but I thought, I'm just going to
log all the references to giants, all the references to angels,
demons and associated topics like that, and put those into

(07:48):
their files. And you never get it all at once,
and until you really know what you're looking for, you
never get it all, which is why book two is
so interesting. It's one of the things that it points
out for people is how much information is there for us.
We're just dumbed down and taught not to look for it,
and once you see it, you never forget it, and

(08:09):
you start to see how everything is written in the
Bible and how it just brings the Old Testament to life,
and how that affects everything that we're taught in church,
and it also gives us our reason for being, which
we're not taught in church, and where we're going and
why we're going in that direction. So it really sort

(08:29):
of makes the whole Bible kind of light up once
you sort of understand that. So I decided that had
so much information, maybe I could write a book. But
the issue was, and the challenge was, and the difficulty was,
I don't have a university education. I'm not a minister.
I have not been mentored in theology or prophecy or anything.

(08:52):
I'm a complete self taught sort of individual. And I
had no platform and I wasn't on social media, so
I'm in this unknown and I decided I wanted to
write a book. So I thought, well, let's do something
kind of fun. I have all of this information on
Genesis six and associated passages, and maybe I can connect

(09:15):
that in some sort of fun, interesting kind of way
to the Book of Revelation, where you have demons and
fallen angels and all sorts of preternatural things going on there.
So I think I got enough information. This is going
to be fairly easy, and I do the first ten
sort of chapters connecting prehistory to prophecy, which is kind

(09:35):
of why it was really sort of fun to do
the sequel, because on the road to the Coliseum, so
to speak, and writing Book one, I realized that, you
know what, I have something I could run with here,
but I've got this sort of calling that I can't
sort of get rid of. That maybe it would be
good to have better context and information for the Christian

(09:59):
market in terms of what the polytheists believe. And when
I was growing up, I was a prolific reader, and
I loved history, and I loved mythology, so I understood
a lot of this information was that I'm talking about
from the prehistory part. In this project of writing the
book was told in other cultures all around the world,

(10:23):
So I start putting in some Greek mythology and history
and Sumerian and some other ones, and then I realized
that that's really good stuff. But how many Christians really
understand the culture and the polytheis culture and the lens
that they're viewing these events through. So they're either counterfeited
events or they're the same events but just seen through

(10:45):
a different lens. And I'll leave that for everybody to
decide what they want to believe on that. But there
are so many distinctions and nuances. It appears to be
just a different lens of the same event whenever it
was written, and it has that influence. And so I
needed to learn about the religions and try and add

(11:07):
something in there without trying to create polytheis, because that's
not what I was trying to do. I was trying
to create more contexts for how this whole world works.
And that's what Book one is trying to do, is
show you how the world works so you can better
understand where we are and where we're going. And so
once I did that, and I had to read a lot,

(11:28):
I mean, from the Vedas to the Book of Mormon,
to the Koran, to the Gnostic Gospels and Popal Vu
and on and on and on and decide what was
relevant for the book. And so then I realized that
there's a commonality within all of those religions and scriptures
of these mystery schools that taught the top two classes

(11:50):
that thought they were inferior or not infer or superior
in every culture around the world. So I had to
learn about mystery schools, and that brought me to the
connection to the Seven Sacred Sciences. And as I dug
into the Seven Sacred Sciences, that took me to the
creation of the secret societies that were an extension of

(12:11):
the mystery schools, that were an extension of the Polytheist religion.
And so then I had to go down and learn
all about that. So I spent about, you know, fifteen
more years just working on that additional information and kept
adding to my book so well, from ten to ninety
eight chapters, and you might as well say one hundred
because it has a you know, a prologue and an

(12:35):
epilogue in it, so it's one hundred chapters.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Well, I know that you've done Mint. There's countless interviews
out there of you online talking about all this. I
feel like people come to this show to get a
basic level of understanding, because this is an awakening journey
for me personally. So I believe that people come to
listen to this show to hear basic information. If you're
just waking up. You want to hear about the nephilin,

(13:02):
you want to hear about the basic secret society stuff,
that kind of stuff. Can you give the listeners sort
of an overview of what Genesis six actually says and
why it's pivotal to your research.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, So I picked Genesis six because it is one
of the most important chapters in the whole Bible. It's
almost becomes the Rosetta stone to the Bible. If you
don't understand Genesis six, you miss so much of what's
talked about in the Bible and where we're going. And

(13:38):
Genesis six is the flood story. It's also recorded in
Genesis seven, but it starts in Genesis six, and this
is these are the days of Noah. So in the genealogy,
just after Noah and his sons are listed at the
end of chapter five, you'll get four verses that just
don't make your head explode if you spend a lot

(14:01):
of time on it and you haven't really done much
research on it, because you can't sort of reconcile it.
You can try and wash it away and try and
diminish it, but you can't make the words go away.
And so there's always going to be something hanging out
there that should be nagging at you, where you have
sons of God going to the daughters of humans to

(14:22):
create giants in the KGV nepheline as it's translated in
other English translations, and this is the preamble and the
context in the beginning of the flood story. If you
don't understand those four verses, you don't understand Noah's commission

(14:46):
and what he's there to do. Because the violence and
the corruption of the earth stems from the rule of
the giants and the implementation of the sciences through the
mystical religions. Might understand that from mythology as the Atlantean religion,
I call it an Nokian religion, Nokian mysticism, not from

(15:08):
Enox and of Jared Enox of Kin. So if you
haven't done your basic homework as a Christian, understand there's
two Enochs in the genealogies that get conflated down through time,
just as there's two Lamechs, and a lot of the
names are quite similar in the two genealogies of Kine
and Seths. So we have this inexplicable term giant and

(15:34):
the violence as I said comes from the giants and
the technology that's implemented through the sciences. So I won't
go into too much more detail on that right now,
but we have the major players. We have the daughters
of men, we have the sons of God, and we
have the offspring the giants. Sons of God are angels.
You will hear that they're not for the people who

(15:56):
do not want to deal with us, and I get it.
It's easy to go with that Biblically, it's hard to
make that case. For I have a couple of documents
I send out quite regularly on this on who the
sons of Gods are. One is a case for angels
and the other one is the case against the sons
of God being humans. There's two different streams of information

(16:19):
to know. The highlights of that is the sons of
God is a common term used in the Old Testament
for angels. Sons of God is used in Job one
six and two to one for when the angels are
presenting themselves, and some translations will present that as the
angels the sons of God presenting themselves. You also have

(16:40):
the sons of God in Job eight thirty eight four
through seven on a additional information on the creation where
you have the sons of God on the morning stars
celebrating once the physical universe has been created, humans we're

(17:00):
not there. Then, we aren't created until day six. And
for people who think there's a distinction between Day six
and Eden account, then Eden account. But we have humans
in day six, and we have humans in Eden account,
no matter what your position is on Day six in

(17:22):
the Eden account. So we have this understanding of the
sons of God, and these are called gods in terms
of fallen ones in Psalms eighty two, with the council
of the Gods, there are the sons of the Most High.
So where we have been Eloheim in those other passages,

(17:43):
now we have been l eli On, and so these
are also called gods, which is also the Hebrew word L,
and it's the council of the Mighty Hebrew word L.
The Hebrew word L can mean a god, an angel,

(18:04):
the God most High, and the plural is Loheim with
the im male plural Loah would be the female plural,
and it's used for the application of God's wisdom or
might in the Old Hebrew. So when we understand this
in terms of the Old Testament things start to make
a lot of sense. We have gods that are angels

(18:28):
that are called the host of heaven Hebrew Saba, meaning
an army of angels, which rank in order. So there's
a whole listing of angels, and I cover those off
in book two. It seemed more applicable to get into
that detail in book two versus book one. And so
this host of heaven is used in association with stars,

(18:51):
which is an allegory for sons of God. So you
have sons of God, host stars, angels used interchangeably and
together throughout the Old Testament, so it's the same term.
But people will say, well, but Christians are called the

(19:11):
sons of God. Well, Christians weren't there in Genesis six
number one. You can't create something supernatural, something as a demigod,
as the giants were understood, something large or bigger, different
with humans meeting with humans. So there's something more going
on there. Whatever it is, something more going on there.
Sons of God is a prophecy embedded with Christians in

(19:35):
the New Covenant at the Pentecost, where even though we
have human fathers, we will be adopted by Jesus through
the resurrection at the time of the resurrection, to be
taken to heaven and to be like angels, and to
actually judge angels for the crimes against us Aka, creating

(19:59):
the giants, create to wipe us from the face of
the earth, the fallen angels, and so this is a
promise that is to happen. So and the keynote is
is because we have human fathers, and people will say, well,
there's no marriage in heaven. There's a law with that,
and Matthew. Everybody points to the you know, to the

(20:20):
Book of Matthew on that, but they don't want to
add the additional information. And if you're going to understand
what Jesus said and anything to do with doctrine or prophecy,
you have to include all the relevant passages. So I
like to guide people to go from Matthew twenty two
thirty and then overlay the additional information on Matthew's template,

(20:43):
particularly on prophecy, and then get in this case, so
Luke twenty thirty four says, and I'm just going to
read it for people, and Jesus answering said, unto them,
the children of this world Mary and are given in marriage,
but they which will be accounted worthy to obtain that

(21:04):
world and the resurrection from the dead, So now he's
introducing the resurrection here. Neither Mary nor are given in marriage,
so that's kind of what Matthew's account talks about pretty
much word for word. Neither can they die anymore, for
they're equal unto angels and are the children of God

(21:26):
after the resurrection, being the children of the resurrection. So
we have to put the whole passage together. So just
as angels weren't producing gods or giants in heaven, and
the laws against that would be I think extreme, it

(21:51):
was illegal to do so in the physical world, but
they did anyways, and they had no need to procreate
because they're already immortal. We have to procreate because we're mortal,
and so when we're raised up to be like angels,
there's no requirement for marriage anymore because we're going to
be immortal. And that's what Luke is explaining that to us.
And so the sons of God as refers to Christian

(22:14):
is a prophecy promised through the resurrection and adoption, and
there's many passages that are in the Bible that explain that.
That's why it's important to get the document, and so
some people will say, well, the children Israel in Isaiah
and jose are called the son of God's sons of God.
They are, But that's referring to Second Exodus prophecies for

(22:38):
the end time in the last three and a half years,
when they're going to be reconciled, judged, resurrected, and will
be like angels as well in the future going forward
with a different path and set of events than the
Christian Church. So again it has nothing to do with
Genesis six. Those are prophecies and time. So I walk

(23:02):
everybody through that so that people can understand that the
term giant is something we should dig a little bit
deeper into so that we're giant neft feel in the
singular i am is the male plural. Are these mighty
ones of old gibor singular gibberine gibberras also in the

(23:24):
Old Testament for mighty as well, but in the application
of that might just like alowah would be in an
application similar that we spoke about with the female suffix on. There,
these mighty ones of Old were described as a tribe
of giants or giant. They also are accompanied with tyrant,

(23:45):
which is part of the gaberim and part of the mighty,
part of understanding the giant as a great warrior and
of great size. And also they're called a bully. So
a lot of people will say, let's just pull up
the definition of giant. You could apply it as bullies
or tyrants. And most people will say, well, let's go

(24:06):
a tyrant, right, But that doesn't mean they were a giant,
even though you've got the other meanings. And they get
there by saying both the Hebrew and the Greek words
have multiple meanings and sometimes almost completely different meanings for
the same word, and you have to know the context.
In this case, you wouldn't really want to do that

(24:27):
unless you're trying to say there aren't any giants because
all of these terms tyrant and bully describe a giant.
We just haven't been taught that. And here's why, because
they don't want to recognize the giants. So how do
I get there? So the gods and the pantheon, and
I'll use the Ballet Council, which is the gods of

(24:48):
the Old Testament, that most Christians would be aware of
that rain from Mount saffon Mount Herman, as we would
know that biblically or sea on Engineer, Syrion, and Herman
all names from Mount Herman used in the Old Testament,
so its names actually changed to Herman, meaning curse and

(25:11):
a cursed as you take that back to Heram, and
there's three or four different words of similar spellings on
that where the curse, the ecclesiastical curse of consequences was
taken by the two hundred angels that's recorded in the
Book of Enoch, and that is known as Harem harram anathema,

(25:33):
which is to carry it out to the end, even
on ecclesiastical denunciation. So they knew the consequences of what
they were going to do. And so the gods of
this pantheon and the Eugurtic text call themselves bulls, and
they're in the Bashan region with that council at Mount Herman,

(25:54):
and their offspring were called bulls as well. They're called
the same thing in the Sumerian tradition, bulls for the odds,
just as Ninsen, who creates as a female bull fertility
goddess creates Gilgamesh after the flood and a second incursion.
Gilgamesh is called a bull, right, so the giant and

(26:16):
so just two accounts out of polytheism. So now when
the Bible says the bulls of Bashan are mocking Jesus
as he's being crucified on the cross, we know who
they're talking about. The disembodied spirits of the giants, which
are the demons and the fallen angels that aren't in
the pit prison. They're there and mocking him. So we

(26:37):
start to understand things through the lenses and this resetta
stone of the flood story. And we're just talking about
a couple of words here. So that's and Bully comes
from Bull in terms of his elemology because of these
giants who were what tyrants and giants? So where does

(26:58):
tyrants comes from? It comes from Tyranos set of Greek
for the Guiges kings typically understood through post Alluvian giants
versus Antididiluvian giants, although you would apply it to the
same way to the Antidiluvian giants. And how I get
there is through a line of kings called the Guig's Kings,

(27:20):
which were tyrants Tyrranos, and they were in Assyria, they
were in Asia Minor, they were in southern Greece and
in parts of northern Greece, like Masdon, for example. And
so these were Guigi's kings kit guigs as it's spelt
with gig e s is the plural, and our transliteration

(27:42):
is wrong. There should be guy's, so you'll see Guy's
and Guige's, but both are plural. When you have the
e and the I following that G, it turns the
g into a ysol and it shows the plural. Now
the word for giants, it is guy gas in the
singular g i g as, so with the a it's

(28:05):
a hard cell in the Greek. So these are giant
kings geigis in the singular, and they are tyrants and
torantos and their royal bloodlines. The i am suffex on
nephali on raphaem on, avime on, emm on, whrem on

(28:28):
anachem on the giant tribes is an ancient international suffex
that was used to denote a royal bloodline, a majestic
bloodline from the gods fallen angels.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Says that's post Deluvion.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
You're saying yes, but also used in the same way
before through the original Indo Aryan language of the giants
okay Pi proto Indo Aryan or Proto Indo European. A
lot of words come down, and Geigas is the root
word for giant in the plural. We get it would
be gigantes in the singular and giantes in the plural,

(29:07):
and we get that giant plural for giant or giants,
and it's also the root for gigantic, so kaigises and
gigantic is again coming out of Gigantes. So the but
here's where it really gets interesting. Now now we know
that we have a royal blood line. We now we
know we have kings, we know where the word Tyrannus

(29:29):
comes from. We know there's some sort of relationship with giants.
These are the Herculites bloodlines of the Kretazens. What are
those two terms? Herculites comes from Hercules. So Hercules plonned
a bloodline of Greek giants that's recorded throughout secular history.

(29:50):
You're just not told what that really means. And Hercules
is the offspring after the flood of Zeus and a
human female named elk Men and Hercules produced as many
other tribes as well, but specifically in this case, we're
talking about the Herculeites, Guiges kings who are typically named

(30:11):
Gog and Magog and names that'd be associate with giants.
But nonetheless we have this word that shows backed up
into the Old Testament and with the time of the
Philistines who migrate from Crete, where Zeus spent a lot
of time at and in the Old Semitic it would

(30:32):
be krt for bowelss Semitic that Hebrew comes out of.
And we get a lot of words from the Eugurtic
texts that show up in Hebrew because it's a very
similar language from the original Semitic after the flood, and
that's the credit gens that the Royales would use. They

(30:53):
use genss to define their genealogical trees. There are several
or like lbgens. There are g Julia gens, Fabia gens,
credit gens. I won't go through. There's many, many, many
of them, but they all have a specific gens and
that the kings and the royales that are ruling over

(31:14):
the Philistines who come from Crete, who the Philistines intermarry
with to create hybrids. They're intermarrying with giants like the Cherithene,
like the Pelethene, like the casual hem and they are
going to come with the Philistines to the land of
the Covenant and expropriate the Gaza region instept the five

(31:36):
city pentapolies of the Giants that David is going to
be warring against and King saul Is and that effect
Israel throughout the age of the Judges. And so these
are great kings, and they are the Serranime as they're
called in Hebrew Soran and the i am male plural

(32:00):
again or the Serim. There's two different titles, but both
as people who came before me did research said, it
has an etymological route back in Tyranos. So you come
sort of full loop in terms of of this understanding
of giants and kings and that relationship that they took

(32:23):
over all of the governments of the world because of
their physical strength. So other people will say, okay, well, okay,
they're a little bit different, they're just a little bit taller. Okay, Well,
biblically we can counter that. So Goliath over a thousand
years after the flood and understand that the giants after

(32:46):
the flood are smaller than the giants before the flood.
He is described as having four other brothers who are giants.
So there's five giants born from one food, and giant
is when it's used after the flood, goes back to

(33:07):
the Hebrew word rapa versus nephil Raphaem. So we see
that tribe that is used in Genesis fourteen in the
War of Giants, and Genesis fifteen in the land that
was given to Abraham. Other than that is translated as
giant in the KGV. But if you're reading other translations,
you're going to see Rafayem show up elsewhere, as in

(33:28):
the Valley of the Giants or the valley of the Rafayem,
wheret of the Philistine battles were fought. And again, once
you understand the connections, you start to see there's more
going on here than than what we've been taught.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
And so.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
These giants that are post Alluvian giants. King og is
the last of the Raphaeem, either the last of the
ones that survived the flood somehow, some way through angelic help,
of the first generation of giants created after the flood.
So when he says he's the last of the giants,

(34:07):
three times, that's the Hebrew word rafa. So downstream, these
five sons are are the offspring of Arafa, and Josephus
calls them Araf ar Af. It's just a later transliteration
of Rafa. And so he is described as being six

(34:31):
cubits tall and a span and he's described as stout,
which is a very important term to understand giants in
the Old Testament. So Josepha says, when you're talking about
the giants, and he has this wonderful passage, and they're
describing the bones that were kept on display of these

(34:52):
giants that were no way connected to the anatomy of
humans that the Israelites fought against in Hebron crryat Arba.
That's what the old city's name was. Arbo's the patriarch
giant of the Anakin giants, according to the book Joshua,

(35:15):
and that they were kept on display to remind the
Israelites who they fought to and that you should measure
the giants because they were royal's on a royal cubit
versus a common cubit eighteen inches common twenty one for royal,
not a big difference, but it adds up as you

(35:35):
start doing the math on some of these giants. And
so what we do know then is on a royal
cubitt and as likely the king of one of the
five city pentapolies that is going to be replaced with
Sheish after Goliath dies, who takes David in. We understand

(36:02):
now that David kills Goliath, which permits the promotion, so
he might feel some sort of sense of I'm going
to reward the guy that helped me become king of Gath.
And so six cubits and a span would be eleven
feet three inches tall. Now keep that in mind when

(36:24):
we go to King Ogg's bed. So that's more than
twice the height already of a human over a thousand
years after the flood, and there'd be some dilution of
that size because they had to intermarry with human females
to survive. We can get into that later if you
want to, but just again, it's a large rabbit hole,
so I want to be careful. I don't go down

(36:45):
too many here, and I give long answers to begin with.
So King aug the last other Rafaim, king of Edgari
and Astaroth, in the Pishan mount Herman region, and he
moves there from his city of Yugurt, where the Ugartic
texts wars, and that really means uh Aug, the terrible one.

(37:08):
Ug arite Rita is a Hebrew word for the terrible ones,
as these giants are described in Ezekiel thirty two and
the who and the ones that have been killed or
in the sides of the pit prison in Ezekiel thirty two.
And this really wonderful what I would call a dual
prophecy that gives us prehistory information, information for the time

(37:29):
of Ezekiel, and some unfulfilled prophecies for the end time.
And so when we look at u Oug, that's the
curiaf ugur et the city of Aug the Terrible One.
And after the war of Giants where most of the Rafayem,
the original ones are wiped out, and as one of
the original ones, he moves back to his home territory

(37:50):
because Yugurt is between Tyr and Mount Hermitt kind of
in the middle in the north. And then he moves
over and he's going to rule over the Amorites when
the king. They're ruling over twelve Pentapoli sixty cities when
Moses and Joshua take them on in the time of
the exodus. And his bed is kept in Raba on

(38:13):
display for Israelites for generations to understand who they fought again,
so they would never forget. And it was an iron
bed because it wouldn't hold his weight. A wooden bed
would not hold his weight. It was measured at nine
cubits and four cubits and as a king, king of
ed Rai and astro off twenty one inches, puts that

(38:35):
bed at somewhere between fifteen to sixteen feet long and
seven feet wide. And he's going to have to fit
in it. So he's going to be twelve feet to
fifteen feet tall, so larger than Goliath, and he's going
to be five four to six feet wide, and we
get to height. The width ratio there of two to one,

(38:59):
which which is there again to remind us that they
were stout, very wide and muscular. They just weren't stout
as in overweight. They were pure warriors. And stout is
a word that's used, and people don't make the connections
to why they're using stout in some of these applications.

(39:22):
But once you understand the descriptions of the giants, things
sort of start to explain themselves. So he was a
significant sized giant. Well, those are the two records we
get in the Ugarotic texts, in the Sumerian text, in
the Acadean text Gilgamesh, we already mentioned son of King
Lugo Banda and the female bulk goddess Nin or nin Son,

(39:44):
and some of the translations. He is said over and
over and over to be eleven cubits tall and four
cubits wide. So he's seven cubits wide, and he is
nineteen feet tall as the king of a rook. And
they're smaller than the Antidiluvian giants, and we don't know

(40:05):
how big they are. I don't try and get beyond
twenty to forty feet. Some people speculate more, but with
the sort of data points of the size of and
descriptions of giants before the flood, I think twenty to
forty would be probably the range. And we should also

(40:28):
look at some other giants that are recorded, just just
for a couple other ones I haven't listed through in
book one. Of many of the giants that there is
two that are kind of famous. One is Achilles in
Greek mythology. He was about twelve feet tall according to
the Greeks post Alluvian giant and then Orantes was bones

(40:52):
found by the Romans, and the Orantese River is named
after the giant Orantes, and many things are named after
giants in the old countries, and so he was estimated
based on his bones to be nineteen feet tall as well,
so he'd be similar to the dark haired giants versus

(41:14):
the red hair and blonde haired ones, which were a
little bit smaller. Now, whether those are a different watcher
or survivors from the from before the flood, that's we
don't know. But there's a distinction in the description in
terms of black haired, black bearded ones that Nimrod is

(41:35):
more associated with and with the description of Gilgamesh to
the red haired ones and the blonde haired ones with
blue eyes and hazel eyes.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Okay, so that was a lot, I know.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
I'm sorry, No, that was great.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
I was just sitting here listening and learning and believing.
But as I'm sitting here, the only thing that keep
thinking of over and over in my mind is how
did the fallen angels mate with the daughters of them?

Speaker 3 (42:03):
It's a really good question because we're told angels are
spirit beings, and so how does a spirit being mate
with a physical human in it would be how again,
because the tactic is is only to provide part of
the information and nothing that would go against your argument.

(42:25):
Is sort of the tactic of the ones that have
preconceived conclusions instead of letting all the information tell you
where things go. So don't leave out My advice for Christians,
don't leave out inconvenient passages. You have to deal with
them in the Bible. You just can't say, Okay, I'm
going to pretend it doesn't sort of exist. Well, we
do know that angels can take a physical form, and

(42:46):
people will say, well, that's all polytheism. Oh no, it's not.
It comes right out of the Bible. So we got
just a couple quick examples. Because again I could go
on and on on this and I love doing it.
So Hebrews thirteen, be nice to strangers, lest you come
across an angel unaware. Okay, Genesis eighteen and nineteen eighteen.

(43:11):
Is Jehovah the Elohim, the Word of God or the
word Logos of God. Theos is going to take a
physical form, and two angels are going to take a
physical form and come with them, and they're going to eat, drink,
physically interact with Abraham. And then these two angels go

(43:33):
to Sodom and Gomorrow as judges and the people want
to have sex with them. You can decide through the
language what type of sex that was or not. There's
two different views on the type of sex being involved
there as you dig deeper into the giants. But I
understand all of those atrocities were going on at Sodom
and Gomorrah anyway. So it's just more of a nerd argument,

(43:56):
but it's an an interesting argument nonetheless. And so there
are other examples of giants taking forms throughout the Bible
as a human form, but just for two just for
the premise here. So what's going on here, Well, we
have an interesting passage that leads us in this direction

(44:16):
to understand things that when the angels left their habitation
in heaven and Jude one six and did the crimes
they did at the time of the flood create the
giants in Genesis six and were imprisoned for it. That
habitation is the Greek word oicaterian, and oikterian is defined

(44:41):
as a dwelling place for the spirit. As you take
that back to the Hebrew, it's only used in that
format one other time. It's used in nuanced versions related
to a dwelling place where the spirit, but specifically only
used one other time in the New Testament, and that's
two Corinthians five to two. It's talking about where we're

(45:04):
longing for our dwelling place in heaven, our home in heaven,
and that that dwelling place or that home in heaven
goes back to the Greek word oiqtarian. So we have
a dwelling place on earth, as it's explaining, and a
dwelling place reserved for us in heaven, just like angels,

(45:25):
because we're going to be like angels after the resurrection,
and that's a dwelling place for the spirit. They so
the angels left their dwelling place for their spirit, whatever
that oiqtarian is in heaven, and formed an oiquitarian in
the physical world to hold that spirit. So the New
Testament explains us to us that there's three components. There's

(45:50):
the spirit that comes from heaven and when we die,
goes to sleep and goes back to Heaven waiting whichever
resurrection we're going to be part of. And there's also
a soul and a body that's of the physical world,
and the spirit merges with the soul to form the
mind that we would understand in our sort of concept,

(46:14):
and so that's what they do. They create a soul
and a body and put their spirit into it. This
is important to understand why demons possess because these are
the disembodied spirits of the giants. I have a document
on that and how we get there biblically for people,
and that Jesus is dealing with these demons, these evil spirits,

(46:37):
these unclean spirits in the New Testament, although in the
KGV it says devils bad translation. Typically devil comes from diabolos,
which is used for Satan out of the Greek. This
is daamont. It should be translated as demon, which is
the derivative word for damon out of Greek. And that's
what he's dealing with. They possess people because if they

(46:59):
want to interact and have rest in the physical world,
they have to be in an eikatarian of this world,
because when giants die, that is a counterfeit spirit from
fallen angels and an immortal spirit. The flesh was limited
to one hundred and twenty years in in Genesis six three,

(47:24):
so that you wouldn't have physical immortal gods in this
world forever and when they die, they go to a
couple of places. One go directly to the prison that
we talked about for Ezekiel thirty two. For the worst
ones are ritinem, the eerate, the terrible ones like King

(47:45):
ogg Og, the terrible ones city ugar eat, and or
they're going to wander the earth as demons. Now in polytheism,
they do all of these rituals and learn all of
this knowledge as royal so that they can be paraded
to their heaven, the other world hades and Shao, where

(48:06):
their God's rule from. So the third place according to
their belief system, and maybe that's possible biblically, we don't
get that that I can find, So I'll rely on
the first two because we have that with biblical passages.
So their bodies don't go to sleep, and they'll be

(48:28):
dealt with in the end time with the lake of fire,
just says in Matthew twenty five, the lake of fires
reserved for the devil and his angels, right, Okay, So
they're utilizing that as their equitarian. It's also really important
to understand if you want to understand how the word
becomes flesh, because God's not going to have sex with Mary,

(48:51):
that's not how God does things. He just says, then
it is, and that's the word, a word of God.
And so the Holy Spirit goes upon Mary and creates
the oikitariant, the soul, and the body. So when it's
ready to receive the spirit of the Word, he becomes
flesh so that he can complete his commission. So everything

(49:13):
works in perfect harmony. If we let it, you get
contradictions and things that just make your mind explode. If
you don't let scripture explain itself because you have a
preconceived agenda or conclusion you want to drive home. I
try and encourage people to include all relevant passages so
you have a better understanding. So if you have the

(49:36):
ability to create a physical body that has DNA, and
then through that DNA you create the spiritous offspring, and
some of that physical trait as you took as a
fallen angel, is going to pass on to the first

(50:00):
generation of that giant being created, and possibly some additional gifts.
So for example giants, and one would think the ones
before the flood had more gifts, but post Alluvian giants,
which we have more information on, like the Rapaem which

(50:21):
are recorded in the Eugartic text. No surprise there. Once
you understand what we talked about earlier original Semitic Rpmu
and ram as it's transliterated by translators. They're using a
term as healer for these giant kings that are at

(50:42):
the assembly of the Datanu, serving the council of the gods,
also at Mount Herman or Mount Saffon, as it's recorded
in the Eugaritic text, and this is the assembly of
the giant rulers. This is where they receive their divine
right to rule. And these are described as warriors and

(51:03):
royals and everything that we understand about giants when we
put all the information together, and they could heal themselves
and heal others. So when we see the polytheist healing
tradition come down with kings like the Marabinians for example,
you see where they would take that back through their
genealogies back to these giants that could heal. So they

(51:28):
had this unique ability. If they had a hand chopped off,
it would grow back. The only way you could kill
a giant who had healing capabilities and keep them dead
was to take their head off, which is why David
didn't stop with taking Goliath down with a smooth stone,

(51:55):
and he immediately went out and took Goliath's sword and
took his head and showed it to the crowd so
that they would know. And so David had four other
stones that day. He didn't think he was going to miss.
He was as accurate as you could be. He was
prepared to fight for other brothers of Goliath that day,

(52:18):
or for other kings that day, but he thought he
might have to take on other giants that would say,
we're not going to let this stand and we're going
to take a revenge right now. So when we understand
that that word healer is in the Hebrew lexicon, that
we have come down through the concordance of the translation

(52:43):
and Strong's concordance, and I like to use the original
Strong's dictionary from the eighteen hundreds to get the full
meaning of words. That's number seven four seventy four to
ninety five in the concordance, and it means a healer
or a physician. So you attached that to a word
like Raphael, as in the angel that's recorded in the

(53:05):
apocrypha of the KGV, that would mean God heals or
the healer of God. Right now. That healer word is
the source word, and I'll let you in you right
away to ask your question. That is the source word
for seventy four to ninety six rapha as well for
demon spirit, an evil spirit, a disembodied spirit of the giant.

(53:27):
Because it's an extension carries some of the source meaning
as these giants as healers, and specifically seventy four to
ninety seven as a giant or a tribe of giants.
So it's the source word. So all of those three
meanings are encapsulated with what the Eugaritic texts are talking
about with the rafaems. So your question, you know, it's great.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
I've had people in before night. This is sort of
my theory on it as well, that all of these locations,
and I don't want to I don't mean to shift
the conversation if that's what it us. These portal locations
around the world like Stone Hints and the Avebury's and
all that stuff, or the ape berries, should I say?
They all I think were points of entry for these
fallen angels to come into this reality. Is that sort

(54:14):
of sure?

Speaker 3 (54:17):
And according to Greek Sumerian Eugartic texts, other Egyptian texts,
the royals seemingly had ability and the giants to go
back and forth between these portals as well, whether it
was restricted to certain dates or certain ceremonies that are
described as as going to the other world so biblically.

(54:43):
And what's really interesting is Jesus goes to Caesar Philippi
Socerea Philippi at the foot of Mount Hermann, right beside
the pan Temple at the gateway to Hades that beal
would go back and forth between every day between his
is Empire world. Is the chief god of the Balletan
Council located at Mount Herman in the Eugurydic texts, and

(55:09):
this is a portal to the other world that's in
the same location as the Earth, but a different dimension.
And there's another interesting site, and this is where Jesus
in Matthew sixteen declares to the Council of God still
ruling from the Council of Gods recorded in Psalms eighty
two over the seventy Nations that's talked about in doing

(55:30):
Nuomy thirty two to eight, that he is going to
build his church and he's declaring to them at their
most holy Mountain that was usurped away from God originally
in the rebellion, because they have authority over the earth
for a time through the Council of Gods. That Satan

(55:52):
sits above to be like God, because he counterfeits everything,
says Isaiah fourteen and Struck so on, and that he's saying,
I'm going to build my church and there's nothing you
can do about it. And you don't even know what
that means at this point, right. And then when and
when you get into first Peter three, when he's in

(56:12):
the grave, you start to get a lot more answers
on this because he's talking to the spirits in this
pit prison and Tartarus are in the pit prison and
in a different dimension while he's he's in the grave,
and what he's telling them, this is my adding, and
then I'll back it up to it. But it's my
speculation here that when I resurrect on the Sunday, your

(56:37):
rebellion is officially over and humankind will be raised up
to reach their destiny. You have failed. You have not
prevented that from happening. And he then as as we
look at Colosians two and Ephijians four, and then we

(56:57):
get the full account that Paul is quoting from in
Psalm sixty eight, Jesus is going to make a spectacle
of these angels and demons that are in the pit
prison and march them out, march them to Mount Herman
and pronounce over them what's going to happen to them.
That's where I get my speculation when I just do

(57:19):
the short version of First Peter three when he's in
the grave talking to the spirits as to what he's
saying and as at a complete event. And I encourage
people to read all of those passages to put it together,
because you just don't get at all out of First
Peter three. But once you understand how scripture works, it

(57:39):
supports itself if you let it, and you not doing
any manipulation. You're just putting the same locations, the same beings,
and the same entities together with details of that same event,
and it's amazing what you'll find when you do that. So, yeah,
this is the location. And at the foot of Mount
Herman as well on the coland heights is gilgal a Rafaim.

(58:05):
What does that mean? Wheel of the Giants, Wheel of
the demon spirits. It has over one hundred portals there
one hundred domans. Doman is the word for a partal
and it is like two stones for the most part,
like this and a capstone in the old way we
see it in Masonic symbolism is doorways in that trite

(58:28):
trip tech type of architecture that they have.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
The Japanese have the TOI I believe, Yeah, it looks
exactly the same.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. We see that show up in multiple
polytheist religions around the world. Why because it's a standard doctrine.
It's all the same pantheon of gods, just with different
vernacular names. So Osiris, Zeus, baal Ankey all the same god.
And when when you understand that, we start to understand

(58:57):
the world a little bit better andunderstand those are postiluvian
gods and there are parent gods before the flood. We
understand history and chronology out of prehistory better. And if
we understand that Bayal, we get in the Bible is
the son of l of the Canaanite pantheon, who does
the same crimes as the parent god and mysteriously disappears

(59:19):
as well shortly after the flood, along with his counsel
of gods and that other angels would just move up
with their rank in order to replace them because they
still have authority over the world. All of them went
to the pit prison, but only the ones who committed
the most heinous crimes against humanity and the world, and
probably the Holy Spirit would be included on that because

(59:42):
those sins are not forgiven.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
A lot of these portal locations. They say that, you know,
this is where like Author and Merlin and all them
would go and heal people, and they would get this
information from the fallen angels. This is kind of what
I was saying was going on.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Well, that's exactly what's going on.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Yeah, they were like people, and they made it feel
like this is where you get the caduces from, right
with the two cents and all this. So it's pretty interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Yeah, and you know, the most common god in the
Middle East and around the world are what they call
Eureus gods. So it's interesting. If you google you are
e u s you get this sort of flying serpent, which.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Is like an electricomagnetic energy.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Yeah, and Osirus is depicted as a Euraus god. Baal
is depicted as Eureus god. It's you get serpentine gods.
All over the world. You get the dragon creator gods.
In China you get the Nagas. In India you get
the feathered and bloom serpent gods with the Kishimaya. These

(01:00:51):
are a specific order of fallen angels that were loyal
at one time. Isazel would have been one of these
angels that has been degraded to goat god, just as
Satan is degraded to goat. Like imagery, he's a kind,
he's a little bit different. Satan in his original had

(01:01:12):
many attributes of many orders, which is why people get
confused about his descriptions, and so he will have other
attributes and looks because he's a higher level angel than
all the other ones. So he's partly associated with the goat,
but we get other images of him as well as

(01:01:34):
the devil and everything that goes along with his titles.
But Azazel is depicted as a goat god as well
as Baffle met father Mitris as he translate that that
the templars worshiped Mitra is the destroyer god, just as
Isazel is the destroyer god of the antiduluvian world, like
le Abadin and Apollion, who comes out of the pit

(01:01:56):
prison in the end time when we when we look
at these arras gods, who are they? Well, we have
a specific angel that's described in Isaiah six and elsewhere
in the Bible that are Serafs and singular Seraphime and

(01:02:17):
most and we have like three watcher groups there's uh
that have an I am plural. We don't have the
original Hebrew name for an archangel in terms of the title.
We get the term prince that is used, which is
Sar could be Serim, but we don't get that used

(01:02:42):
in terms of of of who of the archangels as Michael,
and even though they're called the great Prince, it's just
not direct enough for me to get there with that
I am plural. But we do have o Fannim, we
have Cherubim, and we have Seraphim. The male plural for

(01:03:03):
seraphis seraphine, and so these are described in Isaiah six.
They work before the throne in the fiery stones of
the altar, and they're going to take one of them
is going to take a stone and put it up
the lips of Isaiah to take the sin away in
preparation for the vision that he's going to be getting.
You take that word back to the Hebrew it's a
copper colored, fiery, serpent faced, six winged angel. These are

(01:03:30):
dragon heavenly dragons. These are serpent gods. So that's why
most of the gods are depicted as serpentine or dragon like.
Their offspring originally looked just like them, both before and
after the flood, and they produce most of the giants.
And that's why you have the kings originally depicted in

(01:03:52):
the ancient art before the flood and again shortly after
the flood as serpentine like. And that's why you have
serpent imagery that is all throughout the polytheist religions, just
like Wisdom is depict them in in the in the
ancient hieroglyphs, you know as a serpent because it came

(01:04:13):
from the serpent angels the Wisdom right, and just as
the mystery schools were depicted with serpent glyph as well
for Wisdom, and that these seraphim angels populated most of
the pantheons, so you have you could possibly have other

(01:04:35):
watchers creating other giants that would look a little bit different.
That's another rabbit hole to go down that you can
get there biblically with. But these are the ones that
produced most of them, and they produced mostly the red haired,
blonde haired, blue eyed, hazel eyed, pale skinned ones. And
so it's important to understand that these are the images

(01:05:02):
of the royals, and they still have that on their
coat of arms today, like dragons on their coat of arms.
What the heck are dragons doing on the coat of arms.
That's because those are taciturn languages of their genealogies, and
they created that in standards in ancient times. So when
they wrote into another realm, they would put their coat

(01:05:23):
of arms on that standard or flag, and the royals
and the realm they're going into instantly understood who they
were and where they fit.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
So you believe that the royal bloodlines that we see
today are bloodlines of the fallen.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
That's what they say, so I take them at their word.
They have genealogies to take them back to specific patriarchal gods.
I like to call it those patriarchs as a celestial
mafia godfathers, because it's an oath based system like a mafia.

(01:06:02):
And so an example of that would be King Charles
the Third, former Prince Charles the Third, and of course
you know fred as the dragon that came Dragon imagery
of Wales that came comes with the Prince of Wales. Right.
So he was on record before he became king saying
that you know, one of his bloodlines goes back to

(01:06:26):
Vlad the Impaler. Well, that's rather interesting that he would
have genealogies that would take them all the way back there, right,
And that's just one of the ennobled ssioning or grafting
in of bloodlines into his genealogy. And so Vlad the Impaler,
that family takes their genealogies back to the Agrithy tribe

(01:06:51):
of Scythians, which are indoor errans, which were giants, and
they were generally red hair and blonde hair giants. The
Scythians who went up migrated up the Danube River and
over to Britain in England. Most of the blonde ones
sort of went up the Danube River and north, and
more of the red haired ones went, but they went
in both directions. That's why you get that strawberry blonde hair,

(01:07:15):
not the darker red, but the strawberry blonde hair flavor.
And so Glad dam Paler he had red hair, hazel eyes,
pale skin, a whole bunch of other descriptions I won't
go into. Was educated at the Mystery school in Vienna,
and he took his genealogies back to the tribe of

(01:07:35):
the aggressive Scythians, who were produced by Hercules, son of
Elkmeny and Zeus through the credit Jens. Now, most of
the gens that King Charles would have would be elbie Gins,
but they move up higher in their culture with another

(01:07:56):
ennobling one that would be of equal or greater important
as it relates back to the hierarchy of the angels,
the Saba, the host of Heaven, both loyal and disloyal,
in this case disloyal, and where they would fit in
that hierarchy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Is there connection between the fallen angels in like secret societies? Again,
I don't mean to jump around a little bit, but
it's as these things come in my mind. I have
to at least ask him, because I'll forget the question
twenty minutes later.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
Yeah, no worries. So yes, there's a direct connection. And
for the most part, you know, except for freemasonry, if
you are invited and you're not of the royal bloodlines,
you probably won't become an adapt you're just there for
camouflage at the low level of the degrees, and that

(01:08:47):
the royals they populate what they call the polemic tree
of the organizational structure, and imagine a cedar of Lebanon
with branches that go so they have trunk organizations and
they have branch organizations and a hierarchy with each branch
as that branches out and goes downward. That's the only

(01:09:08):
way to properly understand that you run out of room
with pyramids. Might be work for a specific organization, but
not in a worldwide global setting. So yeah, so if
you're going to be adept, you're going to have to
have a genealogy part of the other and that's the
phlamic tree for the authority level. The genealogical tree. The

(01:09:30):
family tree is also part of their image and called
the thalamic tree, and it's more of an elm tree,
ash tree, or an oak tree. It's used in the
same way in different cultures, depending on which tree was
more populous in those in that geography of where polytheism
was and that the roots of these trees go back

(01:09:52):
down where into the earth, into the other dimension where
their gods rule from. So their gene and their genealogy
and their authority, and both of those trees come from
their gods. And so when we look at the secret societies,
they have orders at the royale level that would be

(01:10:14):
part of the Thirteen Families at the top, which is
above the Council of thirty three Families in the West,
which is above the thirteen Families are of the West
as well that I'm referring to. There might be thirteen
families around the world. That's a higher organization. Still below
the Council of thirty three Families is the Committee of

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three hundred Families, and below that is the Rosicrucians. Below
that is the Illuminati. At the bottom level and first
level of adepthood with third degree York right or thirty
third degree Scottish right is the Freemasonry organization. Then you
have all these and they're responsible as those trunk organizations
for other branch organizations for the agenda that they're trying

(01:10:58):
to bring about of world government, universal religion, and war
with Heaven. So it was again, so now I know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
People who are Christian. I don't mean excuse me, but
I know people who are good Christian men who are
in Freemasonry. Do you think they're consciously serving the darkness?

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
Two things is, first you have to ask what degree
are you at?

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Oh, okay, it's true.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
Okay, So they because they could be just the camouflage, right,
And so they're going to do through because of laws
and things, have to invite a certain amount otherwise you
get discrimination laws against you. So in more recent years
they would invite other people. There are a lot of
Gnostics and Secret Society members within Christianity who bring the

(01:11:45):
interpretive religion and so a lot of faith issues from
withinside Christianity to weaken it and keep us in the dark.
So there could be a mix here of each at
the lower levels of Freemason. But until you are an adept.
Thirty third degree Scottish, third degree York right, first level adept,

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you know nothing. You are considered mundane like the rest
of the humans, right, and you don't deserve to know
the real knowledge. So they get taught into the degrees problem,
so to speak, and the true meanings aren't taught till
it begins at third degree, and those degrees go up

(01:12:27):
quite high after that in the old system. But only
the royals with the purity are taught from childhood. They're
actually adept before they become an adult, but they're not
allowed to take that title until they're twenty five to
thirty years old. So you might hear a term called

(01:12:48):
a thirty second degree adapt. So either somebody is lying
because they don't understand the Scottish right. They can't call
themself adept until you're thirty third degree. There's no I'm
almost their adapt it's adept or not. It's that heart
of a line, or they're referring to themselves as a
pure bloodline that's been taught since childhood and they're just

(01:13:11):
not over twenty five and between thirty when they're permitted
to take that adept title. So the royals understand that
word is old French for king. That goes back and
it's roi for king, and it goes back to the

(01:13:31):
Latin regal and regus associated with royalty, back to what
Proto Indo European or Proto Aryan language was the language
of the giants, to the word r e g reg

(01:13:52):
for ruler. Okay, it's important to understand that because the
other word that goes with it is a L. Understand
a L as a transliteration of e L for God.
How do you get there? Biblically bl Lord God. A
L could be spelled b A e L as well,

(01:14:13):
and a L throughout the Middle East is a transliterated
transliterated form of e L for a God or an
angel I L in Sumerian or I l u. You
also have feminine versions like a L L a h
you also and you also have alah. That's also a
transliterated form of l oa that's also used in the

(01:14:36):
Old Hebrews. So people don't want to jump to conclusions
on these words until they understand the context of the application.
And so that means kings of God, royal or God's kings,
and when they and and when they. In Latin the

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term was rex DEAs same thing rex for king deis
for God. And so when King Edward, not King Edward,
King Charles swore his oath to God, we think he's
swearing the oath to the God of the Bible. But

(01:15:18):
the royals received their divine authority as King James was
a very powerful spokesman for of the divine right to rule. Again,
he presented that as coming from the God of the Bible.
That's not what God has provided him. He only provided
that to a specific bloodline, of the dividic blood line,

(01:15:42):
and that it has limited application. Right, that's reserved for
the coming Jesus. Right, it was going from point A
to point B for Jesus to sit on that throne
when he comes back. So the specific god that he's
going to be swearing his loyalty to is either the
and I don't know which it will be the chief

(01:16:06):
of the Council of the Gods, perhaps Satan sitting above
that council, or to a specific patriarchal god that started
his royal bloodline.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
We we don't have kings here in the United States,
but it does feel like there's a group of people
serving that dark agenda.

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
Well, yeah, they call themselves. They call themselves guess what
the elites, right, So into Ariyan means the noble ones.
The noble ones call themselves elite l eight. They picked
that word for a reason and probably don't use eleem

(01:16:50):
because they have had through the generations, they have diluted bloodlines. Right,
so there's more humans. So when you have an height
like Israelites, that's not denoting giants, but you could have
like Amorites, that are associated with giants but are a
hybrid human rafaee tribe created by a And in book two,

(01:17:19):
I actually take that patriarch back to the Council of
Gods in the Ballein Council and the Eugurtic text to
Amor Amur is a god of the Ballean Council. He
has an offspring, a servant that is also called Amur,
and that's the same spelling for Amorite or Mra with
an e there, but transliterated again as the a in

(01:17:40):
most versions. And that is a common understanding for tribes
that will be named eponymously after a rafine patriarch. So
you have nine patriarchlest tribes within the Canaanites, and there's
twelve and only nine patriarchless tribes in the Table of
Nasan and Genesis ten and first Chronicles. That's because roughing

(01:18:03):
patriarchs aren't listed in the Bible. But Canaan is the
son of him. We know he's not a giant, and
we know hef is the son of Canaan. And also
Sidon is the son of Canaan. Now, if they produced hybrids,
and I think they did, they would have married female giants,
and yes we do get accounts of female giants in

(01:18:26):
the Bible, you just not taught who these people are.
So Timna, as a quick example, marries Eliphaz. Timna is
the daughter of Seir, a horring giant, a duke of Eden,
and Eliphaz is the son of Esau, brother of Jacob,
and they're going to create this hybrid whright line distinct

(01:18:50):
from the Horring bloodline and giants that are living in
Edom that Isa moves amongst. As well, he also marries Holybama,
who is a female giant as well a horeing. So
they produce a hybrid named Amalak, who takes the name
from the Amalachem giants who show up in the War

(01:19:12):
of Giants Genesis fourteen. So understand, the Amalekites are Amalachem
in Genesis fourteen, are different than the Amalekites as being
created in Genesis thirty six, a couple hundred years and
several generations later, and they're going to move to Petra,
where the Amalachem live and create a super hybrid nation

(01:19:34):
that become the great Amalekite nation that's going to wait
in Ambush to wipe Israel from the face of the earth,
swear an oath to do so so that they could
inherit the Masianic promise, the inheritance and the blessings of
the Abraham Covenant. How important is understanding the Battle of Ruffidum.

(01:19:55):
I mean, everything was in the balance with a nation
of slaves for war up against the nation of giants
and hybrids. So understand that once we dig into the
details of the Bible, things start to come to life
in terms of the information that we're being provided. So yeah,

(01:20:16):
that term elite, getting back to that is used instead
of eleem, but you know, if they were wanted to,
they would use eleem. And what it means is a
group of persons who, by virtue of position, education genealogy,
exercise power and influence as members of the ruling elite.

(01:20:37):
Genealogy education, only the top two classes were educated.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
It seems to me, and I could be completely wrong
about this, but it seems to me like on the
back of the dollar bill or on the dollar bill
where it says in God we trust.

Speaker 4 (01:20:52):
Or on the order.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
You know, even on the back of the Dalla Billa
you have the watcher that's over the pyramid, which is
one of those portals that we were talking about earlier.
It seems like they're serving. Like when they say in
God we trust, they're talking about the fallen angels, you know,
you're talking about Satan essentially.

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
The devil. So I think anytime that you see something
that's religious on currency, we should understand that that's not
in honor of the God Most High. And in fact,
when Jesus was with us and he asked for a

(01:21:30):
coin and said, whose image is on that? And you know,
to keep puts under his authority and for this world
separate from me, God would not have us put anything
to do with him on currency. I think it's perfectly
clear that that's not what he will because it's you're

(01:21:53):
creating an image or some idolatry with it, and currency
is a physical world, con right, so it's got nothing
to do with heaven. So that imagery along with the
other imagery that's on there, like you know, the pyramid
on the one dollar bill that's not quite finished for
the New World Order, it doesn't take long to understand

(01:22:19):
if you just look at the details of what they're doing,
and they need the currency to control us. They need
some form of keeping us in control. So when you
have the Committee of three hundred, you have organizations of branch.
Organizations are the IMF that report in there, the World Bank,
World Economic Forum, the Davos Group. Anything to do with

(01:22:44):
money and control, that's what they do. So as we
move up that ladder, and I was going to mention
a few of these royal orders that are at the top.
For just the pure bloodlines. You have with King Charles
the Order of the of the of the of the Garter.

(01:23:05):
There's two orders. There's a royal order and a junior
order that politicians who do the bidding of the royals
will get honorary invitations to join and receive as part
of the Order of the Garter. Where it gets interesting
is with the Anjou and King Philippe of Spain. Borbon

(01:23:32):
is the current holder and sort of chairman of the
Grand Master or whatever title you want to use here
of the Order of the Golden Fleece. So all of
these imageries will be representative of their belief system in
their history. The most obvious one would be the Norse

(01:23:55):
or the Swedish royal bloodline from Odin, which is the
Knights of the Seraphim The golden fleece is reference to
Greek mythology of the material that the gods and the
demi gods in the beginning would make their clothes out
of to keep the body protected in terms of decay,

(01:24:20):
so that it would last longer.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
You mentioned earlier you said we're taught not to look
for things in the Bible. Do you think that the
for one, do you think that the Bible has been
corrupted by humans or by this this lineage of fallen
angels to kind of get us in this system of
never knowing what's really going on. I mean, it would

(01:24:45):
seem like the ultimate conspiracy for me is to take
us off of our path to God.

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
Absolutely, that's the number one goal. And look at the
Seven Sacred Sciences when it was created, when and how
that's applied to the universities today as the Seven Liberal Arts.
The original agenda was to not give God credit for anything,
to degrade God, to lead people away from God, and

(01:25:13):
to honor their pantheon of gods. And they do all
of that. I mean, you can't have God as a
Christian god in any discussion in any way on a university,
but you can have all of these gods of the
pantheon honored in everything they do, like the Paulo or
Zeus Osiris, and on and on and on. It's a
hypocrisy beyond belief. But we get dumbed down to accept that.

(01:25:38):
So when we understand that that their main goal is
is to lead us away from God and to ultimately
to have us wipe from the face of the earth,
not to be remembered. Was the original goal, so that
the fallen angels could justify their rebellion and have a
realm on their own away from God and get a treaty,

(01:26:01):
so to speak in our language, to a peace treaty
between their side and God. Corruption is part of what
they do to lead us away and to hide things
and to not focus on things. It's all part of
the same sort of strategy and tactics that they applied. Fortunately,

(01:26:25):
we have the Maseratic text that comes down through the
tribe of Judah, where we have the original Hebrew, so
we can test every Old Testament translation because we have
the original Hebrew, we have the original Hebrew words and
we can see how it's translated, so the Hebrew text

(01:26:47):
isn't going to be corrupted. The Greek text was preserved
by the Holy Spirit and helped with the disciples and
the apostles who were receiving the testimony to make sure
was accurate. And we have those Greek manuscripts to verify
how it's being translated into English. So you can have

(01:27:12):
an interpretive approach and have some changes to it, but
you can go back and sort of test it. So
an obvious one just to throw it out is the
KGV has unicorn. This is a polytheist term. It should

(01:27:33):
not be in the Bible. This is because that's King
James Stuart's they were the Unicorn dynasty, right, So you
can say it's just to promote the ego of King
James who sponsored the KGV, and God can use the
royals to do good things even though they're thinking they're not,

(01:27:56):
they're doing it maybe for a different purpose. So when
you look at that word unicorn, it comes out of
the Hebrew word rem are with an apostrophe em and
it means a wild buller ox. So it should not
be translated as unicorn, which is a single horn horse

(01:28:16):
as we sort of understand it, and that's how it's
depicted on the coat of arms, and so we're told
in fairy tales, which is Nephilim literature. Fair folk, the
pale ones, the tuapha did and and the shea folk

(01:28:39):
fairy tales, and they're the noble alves that are shown
in the in the Lord of the Rings, not quite
as big versus the little fairies. There's two different groups
there in the elementals. So as we look at this
imagery of the unicorn, it again is a more beautified

(01:29:02):
version of what a unicorn would have looked like. It
wasn't this playful, innocent, perfect sort of animal that was
so busy playing. They didn't hear the calling of the arc.
They weren't called to the arc. So when we understand
in the flood story where the whole earth was corrupted

(01:29:28):
by the giants, by the knowledge, by the religion and
the violence which could have destroyed the earth by fire,
which helps us to understand and why flood comes in stifire,
because then to Peter three, that's reserved for the end time,
just as it was in the beginning, that this technology

(01:29:54):
was also there in the sciences, and that they had
the ability to do DNA manipulation. So when it says
the whole earth and all flesh was corrupted. That's what
it's talking about. That word corrupted is the Hebrew word chikath,
and it means to decay, to pervert, to ruin, to destroy.

(01:30:17):
So why does God call a representative of each kind
or species to the arc because he knows which ones
aren't corrupted because all flesh is corrupted. All the DNA
from the plants were corrupted, not DNA the genome. Plant
genomes were corrupted. This is a world that we're approaching

(01:30:39):
today that can destroy the earth by fire and is
doing Camara like technology that created cross pollinated parts on
different animals in the ancient world, like King Hubaba of
this Cedar forest and the epic of Gilgamesh is a
Kimera type individual. So when we look at this unicorn,

(01:31:02):
what actually was it in the polytheist version that wasn't
called to the ark it's a corrupted thing, and what
their descriptions are. It was a giant being that giants
rode on into battle with a single horn that could
kill a mastodon or an elephant with one gore. It

(01:31:22):
was a Camara like animal with multiple parts. It was
something bread for the giants to ride on as a
weapon of war, and they created a similar version for
the smaller giants after the flood that we see the
descendants showing up as the lipizon horses that we see

(01:31:43):
on show and traveling in Austria. Again smaller as was
required for the shrinking size of the giants before. But
if we look at the Persian kings, they would have
and again these are airans of the dark variety of
the Alchimedes blood line. They had these giant white horses

(01:32:05):
that pulled their chariots that Drias and other kings rode
on into battle. And they're even starting to be depicted
as giants and demigods, just as in the latest Viking series.
I noticed that they're saying the sons of Odin now
in Regnar's and his sons Lothbruk, as the Norwegian king

(01:32:27):
line comes from, where to call themselves demigods in that
latest version of the show. They're getting closer to the
truth as we get closer to the end time, and
so this unicorn should not be in the Bible in
any form, which are a way and that they also
understand the unicorn as an allegory as well for an

(01:32:49):
angelic being, and in this case it's the one that
presents specific knowledge to humankind through the horn or the
third eye. The horn is an ay for the third eye,
and that this is a horned God. And this horned
God is understood as a troubum that would provide this

(01:33:12):
specific knowledge. And the Truebam in the Bible and Ezekiel
one three and ten and in the Book of Psalms
are pulling the chariot of God where the Oldfanim are
within the wheel. Those are the angels that have a
little bit different than the true because they will have
one face of a truebum and the concentric wheels. That's

(01:33:35):
Hebrew Gilgel. But the angels within the wheel is olfan
put on the I am male playal. And now you
know how old Fannim shows up in the Book of
Enoch as part of the four groups of watchers we
described earlier. These are the throne angels, as we would
sort of understand them through some of the church fathers.

(01:33:57):
Even though they were I didn't see any information that
they connected them directly to the Ophanum, they still understood
this other group as throne angels. And so when we
look at this in an allegorical perspective of how the
polytheists counterfeit everything. The gods would have these chariots as well, right,

(01:34:21):
and so in Greek mythology, which gives us the best analogy,
you have these white horses, and in the older versions
white horses with horns and no wings, so they're not pegasusts,
They're not a version of Pegasus. There's something different, and
they pulled the chariots of the gods. So this is
saying that there is a bloodline not only with the

(01:34:44):
red dragon that's in the windsor coat of arms, but
a unicorn that could have produced four different bloodlines of
different kinds of giants, one with a dark hair and
black hair as in Gilgamesh as a human face. You

(01:35:05):
have also a lion, which could produce giants like the
linemen of Moab or the Gadite like lionmen or Arioch
king of Mesopotamia in the War of Giants, which would
be meaning lion like. So Ariel is used in the
use of these Gadite mobile lens that means line of

(01:35:28):
God or typically an el has a suffix for a
an angelic name like mike Al or Gabrael or Raphael
or Urel. Names one that at least we can use
with confidence through the Bible we have in the KGV
Apocrypha was once part of the KGV Bible. And so

(01:35:52):
this is saying in their coat of arms they have
an ennobling going on, and you corn would suggest multiple
bloodlines as well as the dragmen. The dragon is separate,
so that might have a higher importance.

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
You said earlier a L could be e L right, yep.
So does that mean that aliens l EANs are demons?
Are we talking about the same? Yeah, probably find the
ballpark because I think that they are. I personally believe
that our governments are working with aliens, these fallen angels
and providing them humans so they can create hybrids to

(01:36:31):
inhabit again.

Speaker 3 (01:36:33):
Yeah, so you can and understand that they have lots
of different ways for getting their allegories right. So one
of the keys for Subschristians is can we understand what
they're doing through a biblical lens when they're doing this? So, yes,

(01:36:55):
I mean all the I E N S is a
suffix for a plural being added on. They could have
called them alltes, but that might be too close to
elites right for them, So maybe they go like aliens
and said, I mean, who knows. They control our language,
and our language reflects the old languages right in so

(01:37:17):
many ways. So I talked, I don't know whether I
talked about the elementals earlier or not, but there are
the elementals have four different groups of beings, and three
groups are little ones. And in the little ones include
mischievous ones like the leprechauns. You have good looking ones

(01:37:45):
like the pixies or the one that's shown in Peter Pan.
Also you have the ugly ones like the trolls, like
the dwarves, and each of these elementals are all created
as offspring of the gods. And we have elementals, the
little ones, on every continent, every culture around the world,

(01:38:06):
just like we have giants and the flood story. It's
a common legacy and it's part of the visible hierarchy
as an offspring, another kind of spurious offspring of the gods.
And so when we look at one specific group as
an example, that will lead me into the alien understanding.

(01:38:28):
You have dwarves in the ugly group that made the
weapons for the demigods, just as they're depicted in the
Lord of the Rings. They lived in the ground. In
the Lord of the rings. They were in the mountains, right,
and we have to understand the Lord of the Rings
is the mythopoetic writing style of showing their belief system,
genealogy and history in the fictional narrative. That's what they do,

(01:38:53):
and so you just have to understand the language that
they're communicating within their literature. So when we look at
one other group that's highly venerated in the alien mythos
and in the faery Methos, you have a group that
was in control in the Ugly group, a group that

(01:39:15):
was in control of all of the knowledge, all of
the technology, and all of the genealogies of the demigods
as part of the visible hierarchy before the flood and
shortly after the flood, and that they have the ability
to come through faery mounds or fairy domans, thelmees portals

(01:39:42):
in what we would understand today as a UFO or
UAP flying technology where they kidnap people, they do sexual
experimentation looking for DNA and all sorts of other different
things and then return them and then and of course
the people don't have their memory, so we have to
get that through hypnosis and drugs in other ways. To

(01:40:02):
sort of get the details on it. And those kidnappings
are identical to the types of kidnappings that aliens do today,
and these are called the gray fairies gnomes is the classification,
and I put two of those in book one as examples,
And if you didn't know it was a faery abduction,

(01:40:25):
you'd swear it was a gray alien abduction. So you
get this convergence of the visible hierarchy and aliens as
part of who's ruling this world. And the fourth group
is the salamanders, which is a reptilian group, just as
you have reptilians within the mythos of the aliens that
are at a higher level than the three elementals. And

(01:40:46):
each of those four elemental groups have a name associated
with a specific element of the world in this case,
like fire or wind. And I won't go through all
of that because I want to get to the point here.
So how do we get there biblically that they're part
of this hierarchy that are going to be used to
deceive us in the end time. Well, we get two

(01:41:09):
passages in the Bible, fortunately make it four passages, but
two chapters in Galatians four, three, and nine. It talks
about the elementals that enslave us in this world. Well,
the word elemental is the Greek word Stuichian, and it

(01:41:30):
means basic elements of the world, just as as the
occult hierarchy names their elemental groups after and also means
certain beings associated with these elements. And these accounts in
Galatians four, three and nine are in association with fallen

(01:41:51):
angels ruling this world. And if you look at Stuichian,
and if you have the right resources, you can and
see where that word is translated in a different way
or a different word in other passages. You can go
to Colosions to eight and twenty, where it's now going

(01:42:12):
to be translated as rudiments who enslave us in this
world and who are associated with the fallen angels. And
understand that Colosions too was part of that passages of
quotes that I was talking about during the time when
Jesus was in the grave and took out the fallen
angels out of the pit prison and made a spectaclism

(01:42:33):
as he took them to Mount Herman to denounce them.

Speaker 1 (01:42:38):
And they taught us in church by the way, it
was awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:42:42):
Well, we would start to understand things a lot better.
Like the Bible is, it just supports itself in so
many different ways. But until you throw off the dumbing down,
you can't see it and you're not even looking for it.
And that's what they want. They don't want you to
look for. So be very very wary what they're doing
with the alien mythos and the information they're going to

(01:43:07):
be providing to us on it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:10):
So would it be safe to say that our preachers
and priests and all this are being kind of indoctrinated
into the way of teaching whatever it is the fallen
want them to teach.

Speaker 3 (01:43:25):
Yes, So it's not done in an overt way. So
you wouldn't say all the priests and all the ministers
and people go to seminary schools Catholic or Protestant or
which ever branch that is doing the teaching, are in
a conspiracy to lead us away from God. That's not

(01:43:46):
how they do it.

Speaker 4 (01:43:47):
What they do do is they.

Speaker 3 (01:43:51):
Do not teach these things about prehistory and prophecy to
those attending theology schools, and they're told not to teach
those things when they go out into the field, otherwise
you're going to run into trouble with the church elders

(01:44:12):
and the hierarchy. So they what they've done, they've dumbed
them down.

Speaker 1 (01:44:18):
Yeah, I don't think preachers and all this are consciously
doing this. I don't think they know they're not.

Speaker 3 (01:44:23):
They teach a lot of good things, they just don't
teach the full context. They don't teach the whole Bible
because they're told not to and they're trying to be
politically correct. They don't want to get into preternatural things,
except that the Bible is the most preternatural book ever written.
So I don't know how you sort of rationalize that
unless you've been well prepared and brainwashed to accept that

(01:44:44):
type of understanding. And not to teach prophecy, because unless
you're right, you're going to be problematic. But it's not
that we shouldn't teach prophecy. We should be careful in
how we teach prophecy, right, But we have to teach
it because we have to understand that we were created
to be the resolution to the angelic rebellion. But they

(01:45:07):
don't teach us that either, So why would they teach
how that would be resolved through prophecy? Because the only
way you can stop that from being taught is not
to teach it in the seminary schools and then do
everything you can true within the organized hierarchies to ensure
you can teach the values. But that's it, and only

(01:45:27):
certain values.

Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
Yeah, that's probably the biggest hangup I have with church,
and I've talked about it so much on this show,
and it sounds like I'm against church, and I promise
I'm not. I think it's a good place to get
a foundation of Christ and love and community and all
kinds of different things. So it sounds like I'm bashing
churches all the time, but I promise you I'm not.
I go to church just about every Sunday, so it's

(01:45:53):
not a matter of that. And it's again, this isn't
against preachers, because I think that there are really good people.
I got family, I got friends who preach, and I
think there are amazing people who go to church and preach.
But it's not that I just think that when like
I've been to a church before where they get the
Holy Spirit, and that was like for me, that was
sort of an awakening moment for me where I went, WHOA,
something something's going on here, Like that I don't know

(01:46:16):
what is this and it didn't make sense to me.
You know, I was like fifteen or maybe younger whenever
that happened.

Speaker 3 (01:46:22):
And that's only going to happen in churches that have
thrown off all of the brainwashing. Right. And but just
make sure that there's a translator there.

Speaker 1 (01:46:34):
Oh, you're saying that it's good, that's a good thing
they're doing that, you get the Holy sp Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:46:38):
As long as there's as long as there's a translator,
because if they're speaking in languages, you want to be careful.
A demon hasn't they can do do these things as well. Right, So,
but if you have a translator and that and whatever
is spoken viy, the Holy Spirit is not going to

(01:46:59):
contradict what's in the Bible. I run into a lot
of people who say, well, you're wrong because the Holy
Spirit said this. I said, well, you know what about
this scripture? Well, the Holy Spirit trumps what Jesus said. Oh, really,
you think because the Holy Spirit gave that to you,

(01:47:19):
that that all of a sudden means that they're not
in perfect harmony. That's not possible. They are on the
same page. They would never contradict each other. So you
have to be that you have to be careful with that,
but be open to it as well, right, because that
means that that whole assembly is being blessed by having
the Holy Spirit being being active, and it can do

(01:47:42):
other gifts as well. So the Holy Spirit can So
I have actually have a lot of ministers who get
a hold of me on email to get information because
and they're telling me this is not taught. He says,
You're just saying what I always thought and was afraid
to dig into.

Speaker 1 (01:48:00):
Well, you know the reason I say that is because
whenever I witnessed what it was perceived as the Holy Spirit,
it like I actually held my hand up and it
felt like the Holy Spirit was gonna It was shaking me,
like something was shaking my body and something was coming
in and for me it was I pulled back, me
and my friend and we both were kind of like
weirded out by a little bit. We were only we

(01:48:20):
were young. We didn't really know what was going on.
I saw things. I saw people that didn't look it
didn't look like loving. The Holy Spirit didn't look loving
in these people. I don't know how to explain that,
but it to me, it feels like if you if
you're if you're allowing something in, you're opening this door
to the spirit world and anything could get in.

Speaker 3 (01:48:41):
Right, Yes, so test the spirit all and we're told
to're taught biblically to test the spirit. You know, do
you come from God? Do you believe Jesus came, was
crucified and was resurrected and redeems us? I mean they,
I mean, if it's the Holy Spirit is going to
support that absolutely. If not, you've got a demon on

(01:49:04):
your hand. And we're told how to test those spirits.
So you know, if you have somebody speaking through somebody
and it's in English, that's why I say, make sure
it doesn't contradict anything that's in the Bible, because the
Holy Spirit won't do that. They're speaking in tongues. The
Holy Spirit will also speak through somebody else who will
translate what's being said. And sometimes it's just a specific

(01:49:27):
message to that specific assembly. It's not prophetic or doctrinal.
It's more encouragement. But the Holy Spirit can do other
things like provide prophecy, provides all the spiritual gifts, and
that's why the Holy Spirit was sent to us. But
we want to be careful with that. But if you
do find an assembly that has the Holy Spirit that's

(01:49:47):
working within it, that's probably a congregation you want to
be part of.

Speaker 1 (01:49:52):
Okay, good, that's good to know. I mean, my sake
has always been caution with all of this, because I
went to a Baptist church where you just seeing your
hymns and you, yeah, you go home after about thirty
minutes to an hour, you go home and you eat
Sunday dinner, and that's pretty much it. You don't really
you don't get involved in the Holy Spirit. You don't,
you know. So whenever I would go visit family and

(01:50:15):
friends and girlfriends who went to these kinds of churches,
like sometimes I would see things that I just didn't understand,
I guess, you know, like seeing kids speaking in tongues
and seeing old men cutting back flips down the aisle
and things like that. It just for me, it just
was this got cautious. I guess you could say, still
am I.

Speaker 3 (01:50:31):
It either honors God or it doesn't. It either is
in perfect congruence with what we have in the Bible
or it isn't.

Speaker 4 (01:50:41):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:50:42):
But for me, the Holy Spirit works through me in
a way that I understand that I personally, you know,
can receive the messages and like I mean, it could
be something as simple as like like, I had this
moment where I gave this lady. We were on the
trip to Wyoming, me and my wife, and there was
a camp or van to us. I had to use
some ice for a cooler. I had plenty left over,

(01:51:04):
so I asked the lady if they need it. She
said no, and eventually she was like, well, don't throw
it away. And it just so happened that their son
had been injured in a in a rodeo accident or something.
He needed ice for his ankle. But before that, what
preceded that was a moment where I talked to a
girl at the counter and I was debating on whether
I should buy the ice, but she had an angel

(01:51:26):
number tattooed on her neck, and I took that as
an immediate message to get the ice, you know, like
buy the ice. And then I didn't know what it
was for, but I had to buy the ice, and
then I ended up giving it to the people next
to us. So, like I said, it was, it was working.
The Holy Spirit was working through me in a way
that I understood I guess you could say, yep, so,

(01:51:48):
but yeah, I again, I don't want to hurt people
who you know, who worship if they if they are
worshiping God in this through the Holy Spirit at these
some of these churches, then I have no problem with
it whatsoever. I'm just very cautous. Is because you know,
these plate these these these churches have steeples, and if
you look at like some of these you mentioned domens
and passage mounds and stone circles and places like that,

(01:52:11):
they they are kind of like antennas like that. They
have these like it's almost like an antenna to a
portal to a different dimension, right to that beyond that firmament.
Which is funny because when you mentioned gog and magog earlier,
Gog is the translation of roof, and magog means of
the roof right, So it's like, are they coming from
the firmament which is the roof.

Speaker 3 (01:52:32):
Right also can mean mountain as well. So and also
understand that we don't get a Biblican In fact, we
have a reference to magog in the Table of Nations,
but not to gog. That's a very odd word and
it's a foreign word that was accepted into the Hebrew language,

(01:52:54):
and it's also an allegory for you know, use in
the in the Gog prophecies for an end time Antichrist
type figure, not the but one of and that Gog,
as we take that back, was a very common giant
name in the guiges kings, both before and after the flood.

(01:53:14):
And what's interesting is in Greek mythology you have a
parent god who created several giants. His name was Iopetus.
One that Poseidon would have stepped up as an offspring
god and an inherited after the flood and all of
the mythos and authority that would gone with Iopetus. He
created three giants that are people would recognize the name

(01:53:37):
of One is Lbion, which is associated with England and
giants that migrated to England, but that would be more
after the flood, and giants are often named after giants
before the flood, so that patriarchal passing on of the
name sort of goes on with it and you know,

(01:53:58):
crosses the flood. But the other to our Gog and Magog.
So there's an importance to these names that are put
in that end time war of Gog and Magog it's
the Gog of Magog, chief Prince of Mashek, to sort
of quote it. And that's a very interesting sort of

(01:54:22):
allegory that we should you know, you know, understand, is
a war that's going to happen before the Second Exodus
that happens after the Gag army is defeated. In Ezekiel
thirty nine, you get the Second Exodus passages there. The
Second Exodus happens in the last three and a half years.
This is in the last days, as Ezekiel thirty six

(01:54:45):
says twice, with the understanding of Hebrew as the end time,
and in the last seven years by implication that is
does not have the timing of armageddon. But it's a
huge war, and it's got all of this sort of
allegory that that's in there. And I think this is

(01:55:05):
the war Antichrist is going to use to as his
Armageddon to deceive people on the earth. And so if
we look at the etymological route to Maschek that's used there,
or the etymological source word for a city that everybody

(01:55:28):
in the world would know and recognize, people become a
little bit is that even possible. Well, Moscow has its
etymological root in miss Schech and Gog and May God
were also Scythian giants, as we've talked about earlier, and

(01:55:50):
the Scythians are the ones who settled into Kiev, which
created the original czars that then established Moscow as its
sort of inferiors subordinate branch location with the put Yan
and dynasty that changed its name through intermarriage because a
daughter took over and married a male from another name

(01:56:12):
named Romanov, which all of a sudden, now when you're
looking at if that's starting to show us a geopolitical
setup in the end time, we may want to set
up and take pay attention to who these other nations
are in this war that happens somewhere from six months,

(01:56:34):
seven months to a year and a half before the
midpoint of the last seven years.

Speaker 1 (01:56:42):
Do you think the giants like physical giants, the big
tall giants. Do you think they exist somewhere on earth?

Speaker 3 (01:56:49):
Still?

Speaker 1 (01:56:50):
I know we're kind of getting here. We're probably been
a two hours now, so I don't want to keep
you too much longer, But and I don't want to
open up another rabbit hole of you know, because I
think you could go.

Speaker 3 (01:56:59):
Yeah, I'll keep it tight. It's certainly something we have
to be aware of. And so the timing of this
goog war lines up with Joel one and two, with
Armageddon that follows in Joel three, and with Revelation nine,
and the Pit Prison being opened before the midpoint of
the last seven years, and is an extension out of

(01:57:22):
those angels and terrible ones that are coming up out
of the Pit Prison, and the description of those riding
on the horses, and the horses are like Camara like
beings or creatures that are very strange, which matches up
identically with what's written in Joel one and two. Actually,

(01:57:42):
in book two, I'll put those side by side in
two columns for people to see the exactness of the creatures,
and there's a relationship. It's an extension out of what
happens by the Pit Prison being open. So we should
be prepared for Camara recreations of unicorns for these giants

(01:58:07):
and Eiketerians being created for giants, and that we should
understand that somehow, some way, giants are going to impact
us in the end time, whether they were saved somehow
in another dimension in stasis on another planet. However, with
the help of fallen angels or being recreated. They're going

(01:58:30):
to affect us in somehow, some way. I certainly know
the descendants are the ones who claim to be the
descendants are going to affect us because it's going to
be like the days of Noah. Noah lived six hundred
years before the flood, three hundred and fifty years after
the flood. There were giants and gods walking amongst us
both times, and so there's a greater meeting there for

(01:58:50):
the days of Noah. I have a great chapter that
shows all the references to the days of Noah that
opens up book two that will give you a better
context for why we need to understand it more than
just godlessness and violence. And what does that violence means?
It just you have to add all the relative passages
and not ignore them, and you'll get the wider definition.

(01:59:13):
So how do we know giants might be with us
somehow someway in the end time? We certainly have an
issue with the language because it's Greek in the New
Testament and not Hebrew. So language that it's being translated
out is being trying to be best selected in Greek

(01:59:33):
versus the Hebrew words. So we're not going to get rafayene.
We're not going to get gibberin, We're not going to
get nepheline, we're not going to get a routine. We're
not going to get words that we can identify it with.
But we can look for cognate words. So one quick
example and I'll get into how we know we need
to expect something more from the kings of the earth
and the great men that are recorded in the Book

(01:59:54):
of Revelation than just the mundane, washed down version that
we understand and of those words to mean. So if
we look at the word trouble in the time of
Jacob's trouble and Ezekiel Ezekiel Jeremiah thirty and thirty one,

(02:00:14):
that is a pass he is that Jacob is going
to be saved out of in a time of second Exodus,
and trouble is and it's being led by Jesus, by
the way, That's the other thing we don't get taught.
Jesus is not only coming back for rapture, but for
second Exodus. I And that's what my third book is about.
So and those and time events and so this time

(02:00:38):
of trouble is the Hebrew word sarah, and it can
mean tribulation. It can mean persecution, it can mean trouble,
it can mean affliction, and we see it used a
few times, but more explicitly, it's in Daniel twelve, which
is a different resurrection process, in the Christian resurrection process.

(02:00:58):
This is for Daniel's people. This is after Israel has
been awakened in exoduses in the winds, and this is
at the midpoint of the last seven years. It's the
time of trouble, and it's a time of trouble on
the world that's not seen before in Daniel twelve one
and the time of resurrection for Israel, which is Ezekiel

(02:01:22):
thirty seven and a second exodus. I don't have time
to get into it, but that word trouble is Surah,
same word. It's Jacob's trouble. We get a time frame
in the in the last three and a half years,
as particularly as you associate that with after the Goog
War and Ezekiel thirty nine. So there's a cognate word
that's used in Greek for trouble, and it's philipsies. So

(02:01:46):
when we see great tribulation in Matthew twenty four to
twenty one, it says tribulation. That's the Greek word philipsies.
But in thirteen nineteen, exact same passage, exact same Greek
word philipses, it's translated as affliction, so the translators don't

(02:02:11):
always help us in understanding these connections. But it's talking
about the great tribulation not seen since creation. This is
the same language that's used in twelve one, and this
is after the abomination, both in Mark thirteen nineteen, Matthew

(02:02:31):
twenty four to twenty one, and Daniel twelve one. It's
the exact same language of the time of trial in
Revelation three ten that comes amongst all the nations and
the time in the hour of temptation. Exact same topology
and language. That's how the Bible works, is how it
helps us to sort of understand things, and we can

(02:02:53):
use that as a bit of a marker. So just
as you have like four different words being used for
the wrath of God in the Old Testament, you've got
two in the New Testament is Orgae and Thumis, which
is the year of the Lord's wrath as it's described
in the Old Testament, there's specific words that are assigned
to it, and Philipses is the one for persecution, affliction,

(02:03:20):
words like that trouble as it's translated in other ones.
And when you see afflicted in Matthew twenty four to
seven before the abomination, that's the Greek word philipses, just
before the offended, which is the Greek word scandalisia, which
means falling away, enticed into sin, and apostasy. So you're
going to line up two Thessalonians two with Matthew twenty

(02:03:43):
four twenty four seven to twenty absolutely perfectly, which matches
up identically with what Daniel is talking about, and that
you have perfect symmetry, and that's what Jesus instructs us
to do. And then we can sort of look at
adding revelation on after we've matched Daniel up with adding

(02:04:04):
all the additional details from you know, Mark, John and
Luke onto the Matthew twenty four to ten plate, add
Daniel Daniel two seven, nine eleven twelve on that as well.
If I've got all of them, hopefully I did when
it's talking about the abomination in the last seven years,
and everything will start to fit. So now if we

(02:04:26):
can have cognate words that we could maybe look for
what would we look for for the bloodlines and or giants. Well,
when we get Revelation six fifteen of the great men
that's associated with the kings of the earth, and understand
that the noble ones the arans populate the top two classes,

(02:04:49):
which includes the oligarchs, all the ones who control the teaching,
all the ones who control the armies, all the ones
that control the governments Revelation nineteen eighteen. As great men,
that's the Greek word mega, and mega is defined as

(02:05:11):
a large, huge, chief, weighty bloodline and descendants, and meg
is the proto Indo Araa and European word the language
out of the giants, where the source word means large, fast, tall,
big and mighty. So through the words we can get there.

(02:05:34):
And also the second one for great men in eighty
in Revelation eighteen twenty three where the great men of
the Earth were rich off of Babylon. This is in
the Destruction of Babylon. The word is megasprani's which means
great men and it is meaning lords, nobles and produces

(02:06:00):
and is also sourced apart from grandees or vice versa,
and it means big, lofty, majestic, as in the majestic
sort of bloodlines, old pedigree, and genealogically based, so we
can use those words and say that sounds a lot

(02:06:22):
like the mighty men the Gibberiim that are talked about
in Joel one and two, and then in Joel three,
it sounds like the mighty men that's talked about in
Ezekiel thirty nine as part of that war, and they're
talking about the kings of the earth and the mighty
men of that time. So now we can start to

(02:06:43):
say we can with some certainty match those types of
information up with the Old Testament passages and using Jesus's template,
we can put all prophecy on it Old Testament and
New Testament. But that's the only way we can get
any sort of certainty when you have two different languages

(02:07:04):
going on.

Speaker 1 (02:07:07):
This has been quite the lecture. I wish I could
break this up into like different sections and put this
as some sort of an educational series for people. This
has been amazing conversation, really has. I've learned a lot,
and I'm gonna have to sit here and watch this
over and over again to fully understand everything you're saying,

(02:07:29):
because you know, when you start breaking down words and
the etymology of things and all that that's that you're
really I mean, you must have spent many years doing this.

Speaker 3 (02:07:38):
And yeah, I've put in an over forty years worth
of research.

Speaker 1 (02:07:41):
So geez, but this this has been a great conversation.
Do you get a sense and we'll go ahead and
wrap this up here soon, but do you get a
sense that we're heading towards some sort of an age
of enlightenment or awareness or truth I call it. I
think we are. I think we're hitding to some what

(02:08:02):
I call the age of authenticity or the Great Awakening.
Do you think that we're heading in some sort of
a positive direction.

Speaker 3 (02:08:10):
No, we're heading in a negative direction that will lead
to a positive thing. So but we have well, there's
going to be tribulation that we're going to go through.
I think we're in the fig tree generation that Jesus
talks about, and there's a specific generation where all of
the events that he talked about are going to occur

(02:08:32):
and take place. Heaven and Earth will pass away, but
his words will never pass away. One generation and that
includes the prophetic things like the abomination. So that's the
generation that we haven't seen yet of the last seven
years that Daniel nine twenty seven talks about where the
abomination happens in the middle of the last seven years.
So I think the fig tree is the southern Kingdom

(02:08:57):
of Judah, as it is defined in the Old Testament
as a prophetic allegory. Then you've got passages that describe
it as the figs and the fig tree, just as
the vine and the vine yard is the allegory for
the northern kingdom of Israel. And so the fig tree

(02:09:17):
generation that Jesus uses is no coincidence. In fact, just
before he starts to do what he does in the
Temple and then protect the destruction of Jerusalem and the
Temple and then give the events of this fig tree generation,
he goes to a fig tree, but it doesn't bear
any fruit, so he curses it, and the fig tree
is going to die. The disciples are Jewish, they know

(02:09:40):
what he's referring to, and they're about to reject their
Messiah and violate the Holy Covenant in a way no
Israelite could ever imagine. But yet it's going to occur,
and it does occur. And so when you see that
fig tree back in the land of the Covenant. But

(02:10:01):
specifically in control of Jerusalem, because Jerusalem is the epicenter
of end time prophecy. Then understand that this will be
the fig tree. But we don't know how long that
generation is. But we know when Israel took Jerusalem in
nineteen sixty seven, so you got forty years, seventy years,

(02:10:23):
eighty years, one hundred and twenty years. That is used
for a generation in the Old Testament. So sometime within
that timeframe we're heading into the last seven years. I
think we're in the period of the sorrows. That's why
things are going to get worse. The catastrophes are going
to start working together and they're going to get stronger

(02:10:43):
until you get to the twenty five percent destruction at
the start of the last seven years of everything. And
if we get a war that instead of catastrophes that
would take away you know, two or three hundred people,
we would think it would be armageddon or the time
of the end. And yet it's going to get worse,

(02:11:04):
and it's thirty three percent destruction with the trumpets, and
it is one hundred percent full measure poured out with
the with the wrath balls. In the year of the
Lord's wrath. And for people who haven't heard this, this
is such a key passage in Isaiah thirty four. I

(02:11:24):
think it's verse eight. The year of the Lord's vengeance
goes back to a word that's translated many times as
wrath in the Old Testament. In the year in the
in the day of the Lord's vengeance and the year
of the recompence for the strife of Israel is the

(02:11:46):
passage and the connection. So there's a year of wrath
and a year of recompense, revenge for what has happened
to Israel, and the wrath that God will do on
people who also provided tribulation to the saints, because we're
told in the New Testament that tribulation is for the saints,

(02:12:11):
but wrath is reserved for those who pour out the
tribulation on the saints, those who rule this world and
the end godly two separate understandings, and do not conflate
wrath with tribulation. And some people say, you know, the
wrath is in Revelation six because people of the earth
are saying this must be the wrath alam with twenty

(02:12:32):
five percent destruction. That's not God saying that. And the
wrath doesn't even get pulled part out till Revelation fourteen
in the summary of events for the last seven years
from fourteen seven forward, and so that's what the judgment
instruction of Babylon, implementation of the implementation of the Mark

(02:12:54):
of the Beast, and then you get the pouring out
in verse fourteen in full measure, just as it's described
in Revelation fifteen one and seven. So I think we're
heading into a very important time period. We can't get
ahead of biblical chronology, but we need to understand the

(02:13:16):
time and the season that we're in because we're going
to be told everything possible to deceive us, and even
the elect will be deceived if that were possible, and
it is because Jesus warned us that the elect would
be deceived, and that's why we'll be saved from the
time of trial and of the wrath of God. So

(02:13:39):
we need to understand that timing, and if it doesn't
come when you think it's going to come, we can't
lose our faith. So yeah, I think we're not going
into a time of enlightenment. That's a new age concept,
but we're going to hear a lot of that and
we're going to see an explosion of knowledge. It's all
designed for and it's designed to bring it back to

(02:14:02):
be the days of Noah that had the ability to
destroy the earth by fire, that had the ability to
corrupt everything on the earth, including all flash, and God
interceded and saved eight to give us a little bit longer,
so that all the names in the Book of Life
created from before creation would have an opportunity to have

(02:14:27):
their names left in the book or be blotted out
by the choices that we make. So no, I don't
think it's going to be the monotheistic time of enlightenment.
But the good news is that comes after the Battle
of Armageddon, when Jesus stops what's going on lest all
flesh will be destroyed.

Speaker 1 (02:14:48):
I mean, I think it's pretty clear that you got
to get right with the Lord though.

Speaker 3 (02:14:51):
Right, that's the first step. But the deceptions are going
to be so strong. People say, well, my fa cannot
be shaken. Well, I have to tell you you can
be deceived. I mean, Israel had all the prophecies, did

(02:15:12):
not accept their Messiah when he came.

Speaker 1 (02:15:15):
Yeah, makes you wonder what they're waiting on to come back.

Speaker 3 (02:15:20):
Well, they wanted it to be a second coming, right,
they had messed it all together, and so we have
to be careful with prophecy. But also understand nothing is
new under the sun. What was will be a game,
and the understanding of this is only going to bring
grief and sorrow. That's out of Ecclesiastics.

Speaker 4 (02:15:40):
One.

Speaker 3 (02:15:40):
And I'll finish on on this and you can close
it out. People will say a lot of times, particularly
not well researched on this, is that while how do
we know there's this bloodline, Well, there's a series of
passages that were told, beginning with jenna Is three point fifteen,

(02:16:02):
providing a cursed prophecy for the creation of the serpent seed.
And recall what I talked about, the most of the
watchers that produced the giants were serpent angels seraphim. But
I'll quote Psalms twenty one eight because i think it
really sums it up, and this is an end time

(02:16:23):
prophecy twenty one eight. It says, Thine hands shall find
out all thine enemies. Thy right hand shall find out
those that hate thee Thou shalt make them as a
fiery oven in the time of anger. So the time
of anger is going to be a Hebrew word that
goes back to the wrath of God. The Lord shall
swallow them up in his wrath, another Hebrew word for

(02:16:48):
the wrath. There's four different words that are used interchangeably
for wrath and vengeance and anger, and the words in
the Old Testament. So the Lord shill swallow them up
in his wrath, and the fire shall devour them. Here's
the punchline, Psalms twenty one to ten. Their fruit shall
they'll destroy from the earth, and their seed from among

(02:17:09):
the children of men. There is a seed line and
a blood line that was created that was to ensure
we didn't reach our destiny and to have us wipe
from the face of the earth. They came very close
with the flood, except that God interceded. Came very close

(02:17:30):
in bable, except that God interceded came very close in
the Beast Empires. But Michael fights against the Beast Empires,
not from rising, but likely to prevent the Antichrist from
taking power before is time, which is reserved for the
end time. This seed has been with us all along,

(02:17:50):
and we're going to see a rise of that seventh
beast Empire as an extension out of the other Beast
empires in the time of Babylon, in the time of
the last seven years. So this seed line is still active.
And you want to get really creative, get out a
KGV Bible after saying talking about me talking about this

(02:18:12):
passage in Psalms twenty one eight through ten, and look
up Daniel two forty three in the time of those
ten kings a look about another seed line where they're
going to mingle mingle themselves with the seed of men.

Speaker 1 (02:18:30):
Yeah, I mean we can kind of see all that
going on, I think now. I mean, once you sort
of awakened to all this right again, that's why they
call it. That's why I call this show the Awakened podcast,
is because once you start, once you start becoming more
aware of all this, then it's kind of hard to
unnotice it. Like you said with you know, with the
story of Genesis six, I mean it starts there. Once

(02:18:51):
you understand, once you have a better understanding of that,
then everything else like makes way more sense. And it's
really hard to convince people of anything other than that.
I mean, because you know, everybody wants to go to church,
and I've asked a seventy year old preacher just before
I said, why why don't you teach about Nephlum and
all the stuff. And he said that because it was
scared grandma and granddad, and they just pretty much want

(02:19:12):
to hear faith, hope, and love things like that. And
I said, but there are people who I think are
hungry for this knowledge. You know, they know something's going on,
but they can't quite figure out what it is. And
I think that's why when you go on other shows,
the shows do very well. I don't know if you've
noticed that, but every show you go on, the downloads
are up, the views are up, everything, And I think

(02:19:33):
that's because people want to know this information. They're tired
of being told shut up in color, this is how
it's supposed to be, and they do.

Speaker 3 (02:19:42):
And you do not believe how many times I was
told in the beginning not to give too much information.
And I would ask, well why, They said, well, you
know you want to tell them everything that's in your book.
I'm going, well, I could never do that anyways, you
have no idea how much information is in there. So

(02:20:03):
and then they would say, well, you're going to bore
them to death, you're going to lose them. We want
you to keep it short. But what I learned was
is that as long as I'm not too crazy in
terms of being you know, and not being boring, is
that people don't want talking heads who can't back up
what they say. I want people to walk away with

(02:20:24):
a sense that when I say something, I back it
up with facts and things that they're not used to hearing,
so that they that they get a sense of veracity
and of what when I'm speculating, I say I speculate,
I'm saying, you know, this is my speculation or this
is what I think, so that people can distinguish the
difference between the research and some of my conclusions. So

(02:20:48):
I think I think people are looking for those answers,
and hopefully I can continue to put it in a
way that kind of tells a story so that it
doesn't get too boring. But because there's a lot of
information there, and you're right, a lot of people will
go back and re listen to the show as many
times to take notes on things.

Speaker 1 (02:21:05):
So I certainly will do that. And I'm sure all
of these things are annotated in your books. You said
you have a third book coming up. Would you like
to promote that or plug anything before we wrap it up.

Speaker 3 (02:21:15):
It's too far away. So like I'm ten, I'm ten
chapters into it, so it takes even when you're ready
to publish, it takes over a year once the publisher
says it's a go to the time it comes out,
so I don't want to get too far ahead. In
the meantime, I'm also working on a fictional novel with
the publisher and that should be out in based on

(02:21:42):
my research for the end time should be out early
next year, and he can move the publishing stuff up
faster because he controls all of the stuff. But I'm
not writing the fiction aspect of it. I'm just providing
all of the details to make his characters, the details
to do the addings, chronological events, you know, anything on

(02:22:03):
secret societies, whatever, is going to be in there. But
it's going to be a unique book for you know,
design for the Christian audience in a fiction format. So
sort of imagine what they do with that mythopoetic style
that I talked about, or the da Vinci code where
they have all of their belief systems and either on

(02:22:23):
history and either with all of the history and what's
going to happen in the future, it's an and or there.
This one is going to be fictional characters, but based
on the information research in the past, so you understand
the context and how things might happen going forward, but
based on prophecy, and.

Speaker 1 (02:22:44):
They can find everything at Genesis sixth conspiracy dot com.
Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (02:22:48):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (02:22:50):
All right, well, mister Wayne, thank you very much for
joining me. Sir, it's been an honor to talk to you.
I hopefully we'll have you on again. It'll probably be
six months to a year from now because I know
your foot about way in advanced. But it's been a
really enjoyable conversation. I appreciate it. Man, Thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (02:23:05):
It's it's been fun, and thank you for inviting me.

Speaker 5 (02:23:27):
But I'm standing at the girls. I don't know where
to our news and control.

Speaker 4 (02:23:35):
Trying not to see my soul. I'm standing at the growls,
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:23:41):
Where our news and control, trying not to any me in.

Speaker 4 (02:23:48):
The right direction. God send me your blessing. I'm so
tired up stress.

Speaker 6 (02:23:55):
Its music's turns, obsession, upsession.

Speaker 4 (02:23:58):
I got a long way to go.

Speaker 6 (02:24:00):
He's my family, my clothes sooking with big, some sweat
and the ring going half and center having saying ohs
and I can change all my mistakes, but y'all be
half done.

Speaker 4 (02:24:09):
They'll fall, y'all.

Speaker 6 (02:24:11):
That means the things that.

Speaker 4 (02:24:12):
I saw Hellos and Natan from the out of the hall.
But now I can stop my own fall. I gotta
stand till.

Speaker 6 (02:24:19):
Don't become a scene open down at ther roll sank
the church here, so did little.

Speaker 4 (02:24:26):
Little Well.

Speaker 5 (02:24:28):
I'm standing at the gross. I don't know which our
news and control.

Speaker 4 (02:24:36):
Trying not to see my soul. I'm standing at the gross.

Speaker 5 (02:24:41):
I don't know which our news a control, trying not
just set.

Speaker 6 (02:24:47):
Up now, sitting back thinking about the men aris.

Speaker 4 (02:24:50):
Now, I don't know who's a friend of me.

Speaker 6 (02:24:53):
These people act like they can to me, well, that's
still a miss to reap a mess. Never wants me
to love my my religion.

Speaker 4 (02:25:03):
But I won't stop what out to find. I won't
give and won't give show. I'm gonna sit down.

Speaker 6 (02:25:10):
Right in break and that's the lord above the help.

Speaker 4 (02:25:13):
And change my way. Today.

Speaker 6 (02:25:15):
The world's stilling with green, and you move ad a
bath for direction to the break. You can love me, Hey,
I remember, don't break.

Speaker 4 (02:25:22):
I'm at the cross road trying to find my way.
Can your health be? Oh, can your health be? Standing
at the cross, I don't know which our news a
control trying not to see my soul. I'm standing at
the gross I don't know which our news a control

(02:25:47):
trying not to sell.

Speaker 5 (02:25:48):
Soon got got me all sides.

Speaker 4 (02:25:55):
Heads and show me the wigs. Show me the wig.

Speaker 6 (02:26:00):
These guys, the guys.

Speaker 5 (02:26:02):
Open side side my joy to take money, hug the way.

Speaker 4 (02:26:09):
But I'm standing at this. I don't know where to
our nigs A control trying not to see my soul.
I'm standing at the gross bones. I don't know where
to go. Our nimes A control trying not to set up. So,

(02:26:29):
but I'm standing at.

Speaker 5 (02:26:30):
The gross Soon, I don't know where to our nigs
A control.

Speaker 4 (02:26:37):
Trying not to sell my soul. I'm standing at the
gross bones. I don't know where to go. Our nimes
A control trying not to sell up. So lead to

(02:27:05):
the book.

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