Sovereign Soul: Consent, SOUL Proprietorships, US Citizenship vs. State Citizenship, Sovereignty & Spirituality w/ Brandon Joe Williams

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Speaker 1 (01:06):
All right, folks, welcome back to another episode of the
Awakened podcast. I'm your host Brad Leo, and joining me
on the show today is the author of the books
Don't Be a Slave to Your Client and Love Is
a Battery Brandon Joe Williams. Brandon and I had a
great conversation about consent, funny money, taxation, and being a
sovereign American versus being a US citizen. You can find
him online at one stupid foot dot com and the

(01:27):
Amnesty Coalition dot org.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
So the first thing I want to cover because I
think it'd be good for relativity. I always tried to
get some relativity for the audience. The idea of lay
lines and the idea of I mean, the first thing
that comes to my mind is like, uh, you know,
isometric top down RPG turn based action games where you
actually have lay lines on the ground, and if your
character is standing on a lay line, then there's certain

(01:53):
upgrades and downgrades that occur to that individual character. And
you can if you have a maid or something like
that and they're standing on a lay line, then they'll
get certain upgrades. But if they get off that square,
they won't have that upgrade anymore. So about that, right,
I I kind of understand the basic concept via that,
which is as good as my reality is gonna get

(02:13):
on that. But the thing is is that if you
want to if you want to give, like if you
translated that idea of lay lines or or or position
or or or energy into my world, uh, it would
be the word consent. Uh. If you were to boil
everything that I that I teach, and everything that I

(02:34):
that I that I think, and everything that I do
all the way down to a single word, and that
single word was in relation to what it sounds like
you're doing and teaching, it would be the word consent. Right.
And then if you go above that umbrella of consent,
it would go to uh, contracts and and and but
consent is even more basic than that. And then below

(02:54):
consent If we were to go even more deep into
the digging all the way to the very bottom, it
would be the definitions of the words. For example, people
think they are a resident of California, and they have
consent that they are a resident of California. But if
they knew that the word resident means somebody who's naturalizing

(03:17):
as an immigrant, it's somebody who's going through a naturalization process,
which is the definition of the word resident, they wouldn't
have consent anymore. Consent would be well, what the fuck,
I didn't realize that's what I was agreeing to. You
don't have my consent anymore. And then bang that that
becomes the actuator that flips, and then now everything changes

(03:42):
because then the contract falls apart, which is the larger
part of the of the umbrella, et cetera. So it's
the way in which the definitions of words create consent,
and then that consent creates a contract. And then that
con tract has two directions of flow, and it's a

(04:04):
direction to flow from you to the other person you're
contracted with, and then it often has a flow. It
creates a door that creates an exchange of that energy.
And if you understood the terminology and the words associated
with the various things, I pretty much guarantee you your

(04:25):
consent would be gone very rapidly.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Now that's exactly how I look at it, dude, I
I you know, consent for me is everything, and especially
when you get you know again, I started off in
the conspiracy stuff, then the paranormal stuff, and then the
spirituality stuff, and everything boils down to consent. You know,
that's just the bottom line. And I talk about that
a lot on that on the show. So I'm really
glad you brought that up. Because the language of things

(04:51):
and the words and the way they use word when
I say they whoever they are, the way they use
word magic on us to consent to things is you know,
very important. They use homophones, you know, different words that
sound the same but are spelled differently to get us
to manifest things into reality and things like that. So
I've taken everything I know and I've kind of went

(05:13):
down this path of like understanding the world as frequency
energy vibrations, and you know, we're all beings who are
who are vibrating, and our thoughts can manifest reality, our
words can manifest reality. The things that we write down
can manifest reality. So I'm really glad you took it
in that direction because that's actually, you know, kind of

(05:34):
how where I was wanting to take this show was
into the direction of language. And I don't remember if
it was you or not, but I think it was
you were talking about Black's Dictionary before in the word
person or maybe it was the word which word means
monster in Black's Dictionary.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
I forget which one. I haven't seen that one in
a long time. That's not really something that I talk
about specifically because I haven't gone too far into that
whole rabbit hole trying to figure out what that would
be related to or whatnot. But if you look at
one USC eight, I'll do a screen share and we'll
we'll we'll start off with that one if you want.

(06:14):
One USC eight is a person, human being, child, and
individual as including born alive, infant right and this this
word including uh, this word means all of the following

(06:35):
items only and excluding anything that may not be listed here.
That's not what the Barcard attorneys will say. They'll say, Oh, no,
that's just giving an example or something like that. No,
it's not. And you can see that even in the
tax code, a very very shocking piece of evidence that

(06:55):
you can see that will literally get your audience uh
probably not paying taxes in about five seconds, which is hilarious.
If you go to let's say, for example, the ten
forty form right, which is the the form that people
fill out for let me see if they have it here.

(07:20):
They might have taken it off trade Ah, geezed, they
took it off. Interesting.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
I found the definition and I looked it up real quick,
going Blacks Dictionary, fourth edition. It says a human or
so the definition of monster is a human being by birth,
but in some part resembling a lower animal. A monster
hath no inheritable blood and cannot be heir to any land,
albeit be brought forth in marriage. So the definition of

(07:48):
monster is a human being by birth.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, that definition just so you know, which I know
it's awful to here, but it's it's the truth. It
probably comes from the negro stuff and the slave the
slave years and that kind of thing. If you dug
into that case that that comes from, just probably what
you're gonna find is a lot of stuff about negroes
and them being merchandise of traffic and kind of that whole,

(08:12):
you know, seventeen seventy six to like eighteen seventy three,
basically all the way up until the Civil War. Really,
but here, if you look at this twenty six USC.
Seven seven zero one, Subsection A twenty six, they say
here the term trade or business includes the performance of
the functions of a public office. This is another one

(08:33):
of those major lay lines, the term trade or business.
You'll see this on a lot of your tax forms
and stuff like that. So you think to yourself, oh, okay,
so it's it's all businesses. Plus it also includes public office. Now,
now if you look at twenty six USC. One six
two trade or business expenses, and we go down and

(08:54):
we read this talking about travel expenses while away from
home in pursuit of a trader business. See what's so
funny is people write all this stuff off as a tax,
as a tax write off. But they're they're they're only
referring to public office. So when you start writing off

(09:21):
traveling expenses, rentals and other things, uh, for the continued
use for possession the purposes of a trader business, blah
blah blah. If you if you look the place of
residence of a member of Congress, including any delegate and
resident commissioner within the state congressional district or possession which
which he represents in Congress shall be considered his home.

(09:44):
We're talking about congress, members of Congress, federal employees. And
then this is the This is the charitable donations people
donate and they get to write that off. This is
all under public office people. Everyone is acting as though
they work for the governm Illegal payments to government officials
or employees, illegal bribes, kickbacks, No deduction shall be allowed

(10:08):
under people like accountants go to school to learn this shit,
and then they do all this shit as though you
are in public office. Talking about the Foreign Corrupt Practices
Act of nineteen seventy seven going down. It doesn't say

(10:31):
anything about anything else. All that says the whole time
is just public office. Public office, public office, denial of
deduction for certain lobbying and political expenditures. Yeah. Everyone, everyone
is acting as though they work for the government. Application
to do is for taxis them? Organization influencing legislation. Let's

(10:55):
see here, executive branch, official, president, vice president. I mean,
look at the state legislators, travel expenses away from home.
What you're doing every year when you file attach a
Turney's just saying, oh yeah, I work for the government.
Here's all my information. Definition of the term trade or

(11:15):
business means public office. This word includes is very very
What I just showed you twenty six USC. One sixty
two is proof that the word includes means only and
exclusively the following item or items. That's the definition of
the word includes. So if you were to rewrote write this,

(11:36):
the term trade or business is referring only and exclusively
to the performance of the functions of a public office.
And then it keeps using the term taxpayer over and
over again, and you see that on all the letters.
Dear taxpayer, twenty six Usc. Seven seven zero one, Subsection
eight fourteen, the term taxpayer means any person subject to

(11:59):
any internal revenue tax. We've already covered that would mean
a public officer. So the term taxpayer essentially means and
then you click on the word person. The term person
shall be construed to mean and include an individual, a trust,
estate partnership, association, company, or corporation. So in English, the

(12:23):
term taxpayer means any individual, trust estate partnership, association, company,
or corporation involved in public office.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
I've said it a number of times on the show.
Govern means to steer, and mint means mind, so government
means to steer minds.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
It comes down to intent, because if you go back
one hundred and fifty years, there's a lot of guys
that were trying to steer a lot of minds, but
they didn't have the intent to harm, you know, back
when we had actual, real justices and stuff like that.
I don't think that they were intending to harm anyone.
They were actually trying to solve the problems of the
nation as best they can. And then also there are

(13:04):
two there are many different United States. There is an
unincorporated sovereign nation called United States, and then there is
also a corporation called at the United States. And then
there is also a nation of nations called the United
States of America. So United States. A state, by definition,

(13:28):
is any political body that's operating at peace. There's more
to it, but it's really simple, right, So if I
have a political body a group that operates at peace,
and peace actually is a very interesting definition. It just means,
you know, operating with decorum and helping people, and it's
actually not just doing nothing. Especially not the definition of

(13:48):
the word peace the definition of the word piece is
actively reaching out and assisting people with decorum and and
that kind of thing. Right, So, when you operate at
peace and you have your own group, that group is
legally a nation. You can create your own nation. You
actually already have a bunch of nations in your life,
you just didn't even know it. Your family's a nation,

(14:08):
your your job's a nation. Your online video game Buddies
is a nation. Right. So if you have a nation
and a whole bunch of nations, and I have a
whole bunch of nations, then then you and I can
can can unite our nations and call that that new nation,

(14:29):
which is a nation of nations, the United States of
uh the Awakened People. Right, And then now we have
another and then and then we can shorten that whenever
we use it and just say United States whenever we're
speaking within the confines of our own internal letters or

(14:53):
internal you know, so whenever whenever you see a letter
from us internally, when we're speaking to each other, we
say United States, United States, United States. But we're talking
about are United States of Awakened People, which is composed
of two sub nations, mine which is at peace and yours,
which is at peace. And this is the actual technical

(15:19):
functionality of international relations. This is actually how it works.
I'm giving you the nuts and bolts of international relations.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
So do we live in the United States Uppercase Corporation
or do we live in the United States of America
which was founded in seventeen seventy six, and when did
it change?

Speaker 3 (15:41):
If it did, you're in both. And it depends on
many different factors. So if you're in one of the fifty,
so okay, let's get into it. So if you're in
one of the fifty states, let's let's do. If you're

(16:03):
in one of the fifty states, yeah, so here's the
United States. Can you see it?

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Let me let me bring it up.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yep. So if you're in one of these fifty states,
you you are in a nation. The nation of New Mexico,
the Nation of Texas, the Nation of Arkansas, the Nation
of Oklahoma, the nation of Illinois, my home nation, Indiana. Right,
so you have God damn it, you have all these nations.

(16:45):
It's the nation of nations, right. And then you have
zones that are not legally considered states. They aren't legally
considered their own sovereign nation. Right, So let's say, for example,
we've got to Google. Let me type in is California
within the exclusive territorial jurisdiction of the federal government. The

(17:10):
answer is no. Now, the reason why that is is
because there are two zones. Essentially, there are two zones.
There's the states and then there's the federal government. It's
two different systems entirely. They operate totally differently. It's almost
like two different planets. One planet is the functionality of

(17:31):
the states and the functionality of all the individual states,
and then a entirely different planet entirely is the federal
government and the federal system. The areas that are under
the exclusive territorial jurisdiction of Washington d C. So Washington,

(17:52):
so the District of Columbia. If you were here inside
this red, little checkered zone, you would be inside of
what is legally called the United States. The definition of

(18:13):
the term United States changes, and the problem with the
definition is that nobody ever really knows which one is
being used. There are two main definitions that are used.
There's the one that everybody thinks, which is the whole
zone of the entire area called the United States that
everybody thinks of right. That's really called the United States
of America, the shortened version United States. Basically in a nutshell,

(18:39):
it's defined mainly in for USC seventy two Public offices
at the Seat of Government seventy one, sorry for USC
seventy one. Permanent seat of government. All that part of
the territory of the United States included within the present

(18:59):
limits of the District of Columbia shall be the permanent
seat of government of the United States. And then you
can see in UCC nine dash three zero seven h
location of the United States, the United States is located

(19:19):
in the District of Columbia. Now, when you start going
down this rabbit hole, what this means is this is
called the territorial jurisdiction or exclusive territorial jurisdiction. So, for example,
there are some other areas that are under the exclusive
territorial jurisdiction of the federal government. Those are things like

(19:39):
federally registered tribal lands, ports, federal ports, I believe, airports,
military bases. Those are considered essentially attached to the seat
of government, which you can see at for USC seventy two.

(20:01):
All offices attached to the state of government shall be
exercised in the District of Columbia and not elsewhere except
as it especially provided by law. So areas, that's why
airports are so weird and fucked up, and they have
all these weird rules and you've got tsa and you
have no rights and you're just a piece of shit
because the airport. Because the airport is attached to the

(20:23):
state of government as a federal zone, it operates as
though it's in the District of Columbia. The District of
Columbia is not exclusively under the confines of the Constitution.
So there are other areas that are under the exclusive
jurisdiction of the national government. They're called US territories and

(20:48):
insular possessions. And these are areas that are not states,
like for example, Alaska and Hawaii were territories before they
were states. They were converted into states. Right, So areas
like Puerto Rico, the US Virgin Islands, Guam, the Northern
Mariana Islands, and American Samoa. These territories are not part

(21:09):
of any US state and are governed by the US
federal government. So that secondary definition of the term United
States means the District of Columbia all the US territories
and insular possessions, and then also any federal zones such
as ports, airports, anything else that may be under the

(21:32):
exclusive territorial jurisdiction of the federal government. So am I
right now sitting here inside of the United States? If
you use that second definition, the answer is no, I'm
in a totally different zone which is not a part
of the exclusive jurisdiction of the national government called California.

(21:52):
So if you use the first definition, the answer to
be yes. But when you start to look into all this,
they don't really use that in law. They use the
second definite. So are you in United States? Well, that depends.
Are you in the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the
US Virgin Islands, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, or American Samoa.

(22:15):
The answer would be very clearly yes, very very clearly.
If you are in any of the fifty States and
you aren't living on let's say a military base, the
answer is no.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
So who would be behind doing this? Is there usury reasons?
Is there foreign government ties that kind of stuff? Is
there a reason to.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
All of this? Is really pretty simple. It's to get
people to unknowingly say that they aren't an American. It's
to lure people into consent that they are not an American. Okay,
the term US citizen means a citizen of the United States.
We just covered and they're talking about that second definition.

(23:06):
So it's a citizen. So whenever you hear the term
US citizen or citizen of the United States, just think
citizen of the District of Columbia and you'd be right.
That's exactly what it is. So when you say you're
a US citizen, you in that same sentence, you were
saying you are not an American. Because the American, the
true American, the original American, were citizens of a state California, Texas.

(23:30):
So a Texan would be an actual American, a US
citizen would not. A Californian would be an actual American.
A US citizen who's who's a resident of California would
not be an American. That's why it's to pay taxes.

(23:53):
That's why you have to have a driver's license. That's
why you because you wonder why am I why do
I need a can still carry per permit when I
have the second an Amendment to bear arms. The reason
why is because you don't have the Second Amendment. You
kind of do. It's been reincorporated through something called the
incorporation doctrine, which is a bit complicated, but really, at
the end of the day, you really don't. And the
reason why is because you say you're a US citizen.

(24:17):
That's why they're asking you all the time. Are you
a US citizen? Are you a US citizen? They're asking
you all the time, And when you start saying no,
everything changes. That's why people are so upset about the
foreigners that come here get treated better and get more
money from the government and all this stuff. The reason

(24:38):
why is because they're saying no to US citizen.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Gotcha, interesting, man, super interesting.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
US citizen is essentially like the most horrific term that
has ever been created in the entire history of the
entire legal system America.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
But when we were born into the United States of America,
we get a Social Security number and things like that,
a birth certificate, and we are then no longer we
give up our rights as a sovereign citizen of whatever
state like to stay. I'm in South Carolina, so the
state of South Carolina I would give up my rights
to as a sovereign citizen of South Carolina in favor

(25:27):
of government whatever, So I'm technically a citizen of the
United States out of DC.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
No, this is something that's changed a lot over the
last several months in my research. So I just didn't
have a screen share if we go to one USC eight,
because again, everything I do is an ongoing research project,
so things may change as we go. Right, it gets better, though,
I promise it always gets better. It just might change,
but it always gets clearer, simple or better, more evidence,

(25:55):
more locked down. I get rid of things that I
can't find evidence for. Like, it's an ongoing process. Right,
So if we look at one USC eight person, human being, child,
and individual as including born alive infants, and then we're
going to look at the term born alive or live birth.
You see the certificate of live birth, you're born as

(26:17):
using this section, the term born alive with respect to
a member of the species Homo sapiens means the complete
expulsion or extraction from his or her mother of that
member at any stage of development, who, after such expulsion
or extraction, breeds or has a beating heart, pulsation of
the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary muscles, regardless

(26:42):
of whether the umbilical cord has been cut, and regardless
of whether the expulsion or extraction occurs as a result
of an induced labor cesarean section or induced abortion. So
the umbilical cord, when it's separated, becomes its own, entirely
separate live birth. The placenta, when disconnected, becomes its own,

(27:05):
entirely separate live birth. So you have to you have
to realize there's only one birth certificate, but in the
eyes of the law, there are many births. So you
have to ask yourself who is on the birth certificate.
You don't know the answer to that question, right, and

(27:26):
if you go online you start doing research. Is the
birth certificate considered identification? And a birth certificate is not
typically considered sufficient identification on its own right, So then
you start getting into what does the back of a

(27:49):
social Security card say. It says things like this card

(28:10):
is property of the Social Security Administration and must be
returned upon request. Let's see, you know, your passport isn't
really yours. Your your your Social Security card isn't really yours. Uh,
the birth certificate is not necessarily identification, So you got

(28:34):
to start to think, is it possible that that that
what's on the birth certificate is actually an entirely different
live birth. Could it be possible that when your mom
signed their certificate, she was actually relinquishing your name and

(28:54):
allowing them to use your name for an entirely different
person who was born alive, meaning the unmilical cord or
the placenta. And then is the social Security number and
driver's licenses and everything else attached to the placenta or

(29:15):
umbilical cord of which your mother released the trade name
of your name. For the thing is is that I
haven't been able to really totally prove any of that,
But the thing is that no one else can can
prove it or disprove it either. So just by bringing
up these points, you automatically stop the train for anybody

(29:38):
trying to pull this kind of shit on you. Because
the thing is is that if you are able to
bring up some of this information and start asking these
kind of questions in discovery, now you're gonna start saddling
them with having to start to prove these things, and
they either can't or won't, and you'll get the case
dropp really easily. So the thing is is that everything

(29:58):
we live in in this world is all just a
bunch of assumptions and presumptions, really, And the thing is
is that when you start to really dig into all
of these assumptions and presumptions, you start to realize that
either you know, I used to be very quick to
make decisions and I would oh, man, I've got it
figured out now, and then you know, time has thoroughly

(30:20):
disabused me of that idea. So now, rather than try
to give answers to everything, I try to just open
up the questions because I think there are certain things
that I have really really solid answers for, like, for example,
state citizenship versus US citizenship, I've got evidence out the
wazoo for that, I do presentations all the time. Financials,

(30:43):
I've got evidence out the wazoo. I do presentations all
the time. When you start getting into birth certificates and
Social Security numbers and their attachments and their ownerships, I'm
still not entirely one hundred percent sure on all of
but I've got some of the pieces of that puzzle
for sure. I believe that that the name that comes

(31:05):
on all of the bills and stuff that you get
is actually what's called a sole proprietorship. And if you
start digging into court cases involving what a soult proprietorship is,
they operate as though the owner and the sole proprietorship
is the same person. But that's actually not even really
case law. That's actually just that that's just some bullshit

(31:25):
that came from some lower courts. So it's really really
easy to fight it. It's just that no one knows
any of this information, so they can't bring up those
kinds of claims. But if you look up I just
sure the screen if you look up a soult proprietorship
on the IRS website and we read it says here,
a sole proprietor is somebody who owns an unincorporated business

(31:49):
by themselves. It's just your name, Brandon Joe Williams in
all caps. Is this sole proprietorship? Right? So you got
to think where in the hell did this business come from?
And that's the question that I always ask people, and

(32:09):
it gets people, really, it gets people really short shirt
to short circuit. It really, even brand new people. You
just say, oh, this sovereign citizen stuff, what can you
tell me about that? Well, you know your name when
it's just by itself and you don't even need to
say all caps, because that typically triggers people who are
whatever naysayers. You know, your name is a sole proprietorship,

(32:31):
and they go and and a good chunk of people
know that, Yeah, okay, I think I knew that. Well,
a sol proprietorship is a fucking business. Where in the
fuck did that bizness come from? It's it really causes

(32:53):
even brand new people to go like, well, it's just
like it's like it's like you almost can't even really
say much else. You have to kind of let them
run off into the world and think about that for
a month because it's just such a big question. It's
such a huge, monstrous fucking question that causes them to
like question their whole existence. Like where that's what I'm.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Doing right now.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Come from. Mom didn't open a fucking business for you.
Dad never opened a fucking business for you. You sure
as fuck never opened a business for you. Where in
the fuck did this thing come from?

Speaker 1 (33:35):
The definition of let'sten A. I was talking about homophones earlier, right,
soul s O L E. I know you know you
can be bring that up to yep. Interchanged as s
o u L the spiritual or immaterial part of a
human being or animal regarded as immortal. Okay, so then
you got proprietor. The definition of proprietor is the owner

(33:57):
of a business or holder of a property. So if
you if you instead of spelling s O l E,
if you use it s o U L, you're the
the holder of your property, which is your your your
spiritual being.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
And if you also reversed because because the spiritual being
is the actual being and the body would be the property.
So even that's reversed because you you are an immaterial
spiritual entity that's capable of creation and art. Essentially it's
most basic element, and you possess a body to have

(34:33):
a physical experience, right right.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
So then that's what I was saying, so.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
That you aren't a body that possesses a soul. And
I know that might upset Christians to hear that, but
I'm sorry, I just I don't like to get into
this toom. I don't want to step on anybody's feet.
I think everybody's No, it's a spiritual show.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
So we can go.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Anything that fucking anything that anyone who has good intent,
anyone who has the intention to help others and live
a good life and be peaceful. I don't like to
attack them, make them wrong. It doesn't matter. These are
all minor details. People love to argue, but as far
as I'm concerned, it's very obvious we don't. We're not
a body that has a soul. That's ridiculous. We are

(35:12):
a soul that has a body. Possession in its most
basic essence, is physical. You don't possess thoughts. I mean,
I mean you kind of do, sort of, but not really.
Not in the same way. Oh, I have a car,
I have a job. But when you say I have

(35:33):
a job, you're saying it's something in the physical world.
I have a thought. You don't think of it as possession.
When you say I have a thought, you think of
it as as almost like creation or the memory of
a creation. So it's it's The word have is really

(35:55):
interesting because have Like, for example, do you have a
social Security number? Well, most people think that social security
number is directly owned by me. That's false. You have
a business. You have no idea where the fuck this
business came from, but you have it. That business has
the social Security number attached to it, not you at all.

(36:18):
And then the thing is is that but the word have.
One of the definitions of the word have means do
you have the ability to control the disposition of it?
If I borrow a car from you for the weekend,
and and someone calls me and it's Saturday, and they say, hey,
do you have a car? Yeah, I do till the

(36:40):
end of the weekend. I currently have permission to direct
the disposition of this car until the end of the weekend.
So if someone says to me, do you have a
Social Security number? It's not directly attached to me, but
I have the ability to use or direct the disposition

(37:03):
of the number on behalf of this business that I
run that I have no idea where it came from.
That's the actual legal truth of the situation. The whole
wake up is that there's you, there's this sole proprietorship.
Where the fuck did it come from? You think about

(37:23):
that for like a month, and then you finally realize,
you know, you can't even figure it out. No one
else knows either, so we'll just kind of put that
one to the side for a while. You eventually get
to that point, right and then you say, well, fuck it,
someone gave me, this thing I don't know where the
fuck came from, might as well start using it. And
now you're operating as a business owner, and you own

(37:44):
this business of your name, and then you start to
realize everything that's coming to you is has the business
name on it. It's got nothing to do with you
at all, whatsoever. All of a sudden, all the emotions exit,
because it's not even fucking you. You're just playing on
this monopoly game. And then all of a sudden, when
all the emotions and all the anger and all the
fear exits, now you can think clearly because your logical

(38:06):
mind activates to its fullest potential. And then all of
a sudden you become a real fucking enemy to the system.
It's almost like if you were defined disassociation, you would
define it as something that you should be confronting, but
you're not. And it's like an unhealthy relationship. It's like
the word delusion. It's not disassociation, it's it's it's actually

(38:31):
truth in action. It's a very healthy thing. It's a
very healthy relationship. If anything, you were you were in
a state of delusion thinking that that name was you.
If anything, you were in a state of disassociation by
thinking that that name was you, and thinking that there
wasn't this other business, and then thinking where in the

(38:54):
fuck did this business come from? Who gave it to me?

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Was it?

Speaker 4 (38:58):
That? Was it?

Speaker 3 (38:58):
The Department of Health and Humans Services, which is the
state office that processed the birth certificate. I'd love to
see people calling up the Department of Health and Human Services.
I was born in Maryville, Indiana. Call up the Indiana
Department of Health and Human Services. Excuse me, hello. I

(39:19):
was wondering either to file a freedom of information after
request or sue you guys if I have to and
find out. Did you guys ever open up a sole
proprietorship for me? I have the solet proprietorship. It's my name,
but I have no idea where it came from. And
I'm just trying to figure out where in the fuck
did it come from? No one knows. I've never had

(39:45):
anyone even guess as to where it came from, even
in this arena, even other gurus, if you want to
call us gurus, where did this thing come from? The
only guess I have is the Department of Health and
Human Services. But I don't know I have that is
just completely like Brandon just throwing a fucking coin in

(40:07):
a fountain. That's just based off of everything I've seen
and everything I've researched. And I'll bet the people who
are there don't even know they're doing it. So you
call them and you ask this question, and they're like,
this guy's crazy. I don't even think they even realize
that they're creating these things to tell you the truth.

(40:28):
So people think, oh, it's the Department Health and himTo
Services and fucking Carrol's down there just making soul proprietorships
all day long and slaving the human race. Yeah, I
don't think so, buddy. I think Carol wants to fucking
That's what I think. I think Carol hates her live.
I think Carol has a miserable home life. I think
Carol works in a fucking cubicle. She knows this box,

(40:53):
this pen goes on this box, there has to be
some writing on this line, uh, and it has to
be signed, and it has to be dated. And she
just does that over and over and over again, and
she has no idea what's actually going on and whatsoever.
That's what I think is actually happening.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
But just the word being itself means existence. Yes, so
we just exist. We don't you know, all the stuff
that we create. We've created a little prison of our
of our own making right that has trapped our energy.
And we, like you said, we created these sole proprietorships,

(41:31):
these businesses, and we you know, pay these uh pay
taxes and all this other stuff. So we're using our
energy to make money to continue funding this system that
we didn't we didn't sign up for when we were born.
We were born just as pure beings, as just existence.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Well, it gets it gets a lot more fascinating when
you start getting into financials because because you start to
realize that a federal reserve note is just an unconditional
promise to pay. It's called a negotiable instrument. It's just
a security, same shit what they have on Wall Street.
And I could promise to pay you ten dollars. We

(42:13):
could write up a little thing that looks just like this,
and it could say two dollars at the top, and
it could say we have our new nation. We just created.
My nation's at piece, your nations at piece. It's called
the United States of Awakened People. So at the top

(42:35):
it would be we would go and get bond paper.
I don't have my wallet on me. Let's look up
a picture of a federal reserve note, and let's build
one out right now. So a federal reserve note. We're
gonna look up. We're gonna look up images. The first

(42:59):
thing we're going to do is we're going to look
up the definition of the word money. We're gonna make
sure people understand that you don't have any of this stuff.
No state shall make anything but gold and silver coin
a tender in payments of debts. Article one, Section ten
of the Constitution. Here's a definition from Black's law, an

(43:20):
ordinary and usual and ordinary acceptation that means gold, silver,
or paper money used as a circulating medium of exchange
and does not embrace notes, notes, bonds, evidences of debt,
or other personal or real estate. So what is it.

(43:42):
It's a negotiable instrument. We can prove that by going
to UCC three one oh two. This is the Bible
of Negotiable Instruments. It says here this article applies to
negotiable instruments. It does not apply to money. There's a
stark difference between what is a negotiable instrument and what
is money. The definition of what a negotiable instrument is

(44:05):
is that U see see three one o four. Negotiable
instrument means an unconditional promise or order to pay, and
it goes on and on and on. But we don't
need just this alone is just plenty. We've got ninety
five percent of it right here. Negotiable instrument means an
unconditional promise or order to pay. So now we're gonna

(44:27):
go and we're gonna build our own currency from scratch
and we're gonna start to use it. So all we
have to do is we're gonna pull up a brand
new one hundred dollars bill. I would like to see
it in big form. Great, this is perfect. So we're
going to create one hundred dollars and this is gonna
be a picture of me. We're gonna put a picture
of me on here, or maybe we'll do a picture

(44:49):
of me and a picture of you. Will do both
side by side, and it's gonna say the United States
of Awakened People. It's gonna say uh us a key,
United States of Awakened People. Note, it's gonna have a

(45:09):
serial number. We're gonna create our own serial number. It's
gonna be uh, Brandon and Brad, so it'll be bb
zero zero zero zero zero zero zero one would be
the first registered note. It's gonna have your signature here,
it's gonna say Treasurer of the Nation of Brad. And

(45:31):
then it's gonna say and then it's gonna have my
signature here, and it's gonna say Treasurer of the nation
of the Amnesty Coalition. It's gonna say one hundred here,
one hundred here, one hundred here, and one hundred here,
and then it's gonna have the serial number again here.
It's gonna have the seal for my nation here on
the right hand side, and it's gonna have the seal
for your nation here on the left hand side. And

(45:55):
we just legally manufactured a registered promise note that can
actually be exchanged in the society as currency legally. So
a federal reserve note is only one type of promisory note,
but any promissory note can operate as currency in the

(46:18):
United States as well as in any other country. Every
single country is currency essentially operates as a promisory note.
I mean, does every country's currency operate as a promissory note.
There's only a few left that don't. This is the

(46:40):
international banking regime, right, Yeah, I won't even fucking tell you. Thanks, Yeah,
hide that one. The answer is yes, there's only a
few countries left. And actually the last few wars that
the America has been at war with were countries that
didn't have promissory note currency. So the whole, the whole conspiracy,

(47:02):
what's not only even a conspiracy, The whole the whole
plan is to convert every single country into a promisory
note system and then to collapse all the countries all
at the same time of economically right, So we pay
taxes using a unconditional promise to pay called a federal
reserve note, where we're filing tax returns to tell the

(47:28):
Internal Revenue Service that we are getting unconditional promises to pay,
which by definition are not money, which by definition cannot
actually physically be income. The definition of a trader business
only has to do with something involving public office. So

(47:48):
we're telling them that we are working for the government
and we're receiving money, and that's all a lie. We
are not working for the government and we are not
receiving money. We are not involved trader business, we are
not tax payers, and we don't have any money, and
anyone can create an unconditional promise to pay anytime they want.

(48:11):
You and I can create an unconditional promise to pay
right now, and we can actually literally use it to
buy things in America legally legal tender. The definition of
the word legal tender falls into two subclasses, an unconditional
promise or order to pay. The definition of an unconditional

(48:32):
promise to pay is a note. The definition of an
unconditional order to pay is called a draft. So, in
its most basic element, the definition of legal tender and
America is notes and drafts. So we aren't paying for anything.
They don't need. The IRS does not need Federal Reserve

(48:55):
notes from the public. The IRS can print as many
unconditional else just to pay as it wants, and then
it can go to what's called the Federal Reserve Discount Window.
The Federal Reserve Discount Window swaps notes for other for
Federal Reserve notes, you can take you can take other
kinds of notes, Like if you and I created a

(49:18):
note right now, just like we said, we created one
hundred dollars note, we can go to what's called the
Federal Reserve discount window, and we can swap that note
that we just manufactured. Legally that the registered note for
Federal Reserve notes at these rates, And the way that
we would do it is from twelve USC. Four one

(49:39):
two Application for Notes Collateral require so such applications shall
be accompanied with a tender, meaning an unconditional offer to
the local Federal Reserve agent of collateral and amount equal
to the sum of the Federal Reserve notes that's applied
for Hello, Federal Reserve discount window, I have a one

(50:00):
hundred dollars US A P note, and I would like
to exchange that one US a P registered note for
Federal Reserve notes. I am hereby giving you this original
registered USAP note as collateral an amount equal to the

(50:24):
sum of the Federal Reserve notes that's applied for the
collateral security thus offered shall be notes drafts. So we're
giving them our note that we just create out of
thin air and exchange for their notes that they just
create out of thin air. And the reason why we're
swapping our notes for their notes is just simply because

(50:45):
people won't accept our notes. They will accept their notes,
but legally they have to accept both. They don't have
a choice. You can start suing people. You can manufacture
your own currency, try giving it to people, get them
to deny taking it, and then you can sue them

(51:08):
under UCC three six three tender repayment. If tender repayment
of an obligation to pay an instrument made to a
person entitled to enforce the instrument and the tender is refused,
there is discharge. They don't have the option to not
accept your note. So we could literally manufacture our own notes,

(51:30):
cruise around, start paying for things, get rejected, and then
start suing people and force them to accept our notes.
And there isn't a mother fucking thing they can do
about it. So at the end of the day, the
way that it really works is you say, oh, we
pay for these things. No, no, we don't. The IRS

(51:51):
does not need any of our notes, and we're giving
them one particular type of note, but we can manufacture
our own notes and send them to the IRS. The IRS, well,
one of the craziest things you can do. You don't
even need to manufacture notes. All you need to do
is just authorize the IRS to do it for you. So,

(52:11):
so authorizing the IRS to settle the account of a
taxpayer using a bill of exchange or registered bill of
exchange that is processed on fed wire. DAN here we go.

(52:40):
So this is called the IRM, the Internal Revenue Manual.
So Title twenty six of the United States Code of
the title twenty so if we go to the twenty
six USC seven seven zero one, if we go to
the US Code, this is the entire US Code. Right

(53:00):
if you look at Title twenty six is the Internal
Revenue Code. It's a tax code, right. The ir M,
the Internal Revenue Manual is the application of the IRC
but for employees working at the IRS. So it's a
manual for internal application of Title twenty six. So that's

(53:24):
what we're looking at right now. Right now, what we're
gonna do is we're going to go to bill of exchange. Now,
by the way, the term bill of exchange, it means
an unconditional order to pay, which is currency. Remember, so
if a bill of exchange, a registered bill of exchange
is received from a taxpayer, authorizing the campus to settle

(53:48):
their account through fedwire, which is a way to communicate
with the Federal Reserve, send everything received to the following
address Department of the Treasury. Opposite of the Executive Secretary,
fifteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue, Northwest, Room three four one three, Washington,
d C. Two zero two two zero. So let's go

(54:08):
back to the definition of a negotiable instrument three to
one oh four. Negotiable instrument means an unconditional promise or
order to pay. This is currency currentcy. You could say
currency means an unconditional promise or order to pay IRS,
bill images. This scary thing that comes in the mail,

(54:34):
Oh so scary, oh so scary. This is fucking cash.
This piece of paper is a ninety seven thousand, nine
hundred seventy eight fifty five cent bill. It's cash. This

(54:56):
and this is the same thing and this are both
negotiable instruments. They both have face value. In fact, if
you offered me one of these, or if you offered
me this, I would take this. It's worth a lot more.

(55:19):
This is worth ninety seven and seventy eight dollars and
fifty five cents. This is only worth one hundred dollars.
So all you do is thank you very much for
sending me this cash. I appreciate it so much. I'm
gonna send this cash back to you, and I'm gonna

(55:39):
authorize you to go and swap the value of this
cash for Federal Reserve notes at the Federal Reserve discount window.
That's exactly what they're saying here in this thing. If
you get a bill from the IRS and you want
to you and you want to authorize is the IRS

(56:00):
to use that bill as cash and swap it for
Federal Reserve notes to zero out the account, send everything
received at the following address. That's all we do. That's
all we've been doing, and it works every single time
since December. So if you go to the Amnesty Coalition

(56:24):
dot org and you go to resources and documents and
you scroll down, I have everything here for you for free.
You're gonna go to authorization for campus to use fed
wire to settle account. You're gonna click here. Here's the
cover letter, Authorization for campus to settle the account of

(56:44):
a taxpayer using a bilit exchange or registered bilitic exchange
that is processed through fedwire. I'm just using their words right.
This document is coming from this see attorney in fact
on behalf of SOLT propriorship. This document is being sent to.
This is the terminology we just read from three point

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eight point forty five point five point ten point one.
I want to take a moment and thank you for
the service of what you offer to settle the account
of the SOULT proprietor ship slash individual on my behalf
using fed wire and closing this envelope are the original
bills of exchange and specifically to the sole pridor ship
slash individual named Brandon Joe Williams, of which is a
DBA for Brandon Joe Williams. Uh, Brandon Joe Williams is

(57:28):
not the draw e, draw or or accept or. You
can't be those things in order to what's called negotiate
the instrument, which means to transfer it back, so you
have to be specific. It's a little bit more advanced.
This part's a little bit more advanced, right in negotiating
these instruments back to you, as the person entitled to
enforce the instruments. Please find the enclosed bills of Exchange,

(57:51):
all endorsed with qualified and special endorsements for your processing
in accordance with the UCC three dash through and one
or the state equivalent and irms Section three point eight
point forty five point five point ten point one. That's it.
You write some stuff on the face of the bill,
which basically releases that cash back to them so they

(58:11):
can use that cash and swap that cash with the
federal reserve for federal reserve notes. You authorize them to
do so. You just paid your IRS bills. So this
idea that we are we are in this thing and
we're paying for this thing, and we're paying for the government,
it's all complete bullshit. We aren't paying for anything if

(58:32):
you pay. If everyone in the country stop paying taxes tomorrow,
everyone thinks, oh, we have the power, we pay taxes,
we fund the government, it wouldn't make one millimeter of difference.
The government would con The government has the ability, I
actually found the laws on it to produce unconditional promises

(58:53):
to pay whenever it wants. They're called treasury bonds. They
can create all the treasury bonds they want, and they
can go to the Federal Reserve discount window and they
can swap them for Federal Reserve notes. The government has
the ability to fully fund itself. All taxation is completely irrelevant.

(59:15):
You don't have the power to stop funding the government
and stop the government by not funding the government. If
you had a tax anti tax group and you were
so successful and you got the whole country to stop
paying taxes, you wouldn't even slow down the government one percent.

(59:36):
It's completely irrelevant. They'd be smoking cigars, drinking whiskey and
laughing in your face. Has nothing to do with all.
Taxation is a complete delusion. It is literally just a
cycle of action that causes you to believe incorrectly that

(01:00:02):
you are contributing to something, and then people start to
protect that of which they contribute to. The entire taxation
system is designed to essentially brainwash you into protecting the
system because you think you're contributing to it, and people

(01:00:23):
the natural functionality of the human mind is people protect
that of which they contribute to all taxation. They don't
need anything. The numbers have nothing to do with anything.
They don't need it. In fact, it costs the more
to collect taxes than if they were to just print
all their own shit and swap it at the further

(01:00:44):
reserve discount window. It'd be a whole lot easier, right,
But they have this whole irs and all this stuff.
It's all irrelevant. They do it because they want you
to think you are contributing to it, which then creates
you pre texting the system. It's literally hypnotism on a

(01:01:06):
level that no one ever even imagined could have been possible.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
So I got a question for you, though, isn't it
all just bs? Couldn't you just literally say I am
a being, a sovereign being. I just exist. None of
your language means anything to me. None of your written words,
none of your spoken words, none of your bonds or
your treasuries or anything like that. Couldn't you just in

(01:01:35):
court say that and and be and let that be that?

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
Because because they operate off of no, because they operate
off of a bunch of rules. You have the rules
of civil procedure, you have the rules of criminal procedure,
you have the rules of evidence. Yeah, but we didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
You and I didn't consent to that rule.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
We did. They don't.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
When we were born. We we just came into existence.
We we on nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
There's a certain way you can say that, but you
have to say it within the confines of the rules.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
But you have to consent to the rules. We started
the show off like that with consent you have.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
I know, But the thing is they don't. They consent
is presumed and then under three oh one, under under
rule of Evidence three oh one, which which talks about presumptions.
Consent is presumed, and it's presumed based off the fact
that if you have a driver's license, for example, they
presume consent.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
That's what I'm getting at it. So if I just
said I don't want to any of this, I don't
want driver's license.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
I don't, well you would have to actually have gotten
rid of the if you okay, so actions speak lout
of the words. We can all agree on that, right.
If you have a driver's license in your pocket and
it's active, and you're standing at a at a podium
in a court and you're saying, no, I don't, I
don't agree, I don't, and it's like, well, hold on

(01:02:58):
a second. If I was the judge and I was nefarious,
I would say pull out your wallet, pull out your wallet,
pull out your driver's license. Put the table. So do
you realize, mister Williams, you signed under penalty of perjury
that you are a US citizen or permanent resident when

(01:03:19):
you signed for that driver's license, uh, which is consent.
You consented, right, So if you're standing here and you're
saying that you don't consent, but I can very easily
go and get the original consent document that you signed

(01:03:40):
under penalty of perjury when you got that driver's license.
You have two choices. Choice number one is you're here
and we can do this this court proceeding in accordance
with the rules of the court. Or two, I can
hold you in contempted this court. And I'm going to
go and I'm going to get the document where you

(01:04:03):
signed under penalty of perjury consenting to be a US
citizen or permanent resident. I'm going to bring it here
and I'm going to file criminal charges for perjury because
you signed that document under penalty of perjury. But you're
here in my court telling me that obviously whatever it
is that you signed, you were lying on that form.
If I wanted to be, I could be. With a

(01:04:25):
knowledge that I have, I could be the biggest nightmare
judge that anyone on this planet has ever seen in
their entire existence. I could put literally anyone in prison.
Because the thing is is that you got a driver's license,
you consented.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Sorry, yeah, but I mean you. But again, you don't
have to consent to it. Let's just say I got rid.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Of everything, got rid of Yeah, if you got rid
of everything, and you have evidence that everything was gone,
and you submit all of that evidence into the case.
But again we're back to my original point. You're playing
the game. You're playing as per the rules. When you
do that, I don't have to say that, well, you're

(01:05:10):
If you submit the evidence of the case and you
say I have no consent, here's the evidence of no consent.
You're playing according to the rules of evidence, the rules
of civil procedure. Do you see.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
Yeah, but wouldn't you But again, wouldn't you say I
don't even acknowledge your court. I don't acknowledge anything that
you have. You have no authority over me. It's literally
getting to that point for me as a human being
that I'm getting.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
I would use the driver's license if you have. If
you don't have a driver's license, fine, you can say that.
If you have a driver's license, I would just crush you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
I know, man, I just I just feel like, you
know again, we just exist, we are beings again, and
and you know to to you know, to say that,
well you have a driver's license. Again, I can if
I got rid of all that, if I burned all
of that stuff and said I no longer consent to
any of it, just by me saying I no longer
can to any of it and got rid of all
that stuff, and I don't recognize your authority and all

(01:06:05):
that stuff. Shouldn't I just be the one who wins
the case reguardlets.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
So like who the answer questions the rules that we hear,
here's the answer to your question. I'm going to give
you the actual answer because a lot of people in
my world act like that, and and it and it.
People think that that's what I'm doing and it's not
and it's ridiculous. So when you start getting into the

(01:06:31):
original type of citizenship that we actually had, it's it's
basically based off of the Magna Carta. I started doing
a lot of research into the eighteen hundreds, and I
started looking at a lot of Supreme Court cases and
all these justices and chief justices. They're talking about the
Magna Carta over and over and over again. What the
hell are they talking about? What is this Magna Carta thing?

(01:06:51):
So Magna Carta was signed in twelve fifteen by the
King in England, one of the king right, and it
basically expanded all of the King's powers out into all
of the people in the kingdom essentially right, and fast
forward eight hundred years, and that's the same basic system
that each individual US state is based off of. Right. So,

(01:07:16):
the way that the way that the state or original
or common law, however you want to say it English
system works is that every single person is a member
of the sovereignty, so sovereignty itself. When it comes to
the sovereignty enjoyed in the American culture, it's a group sovereignty,

(01:07:39):
and we're all plugged into essentially the group sovereignty. We
essentially give allegiance and support to our group, and then
in exchange, we access that sovereignty that is the power
of that sovereignty is in the group as a whole. Right. Now,

(01:08:01):
you have things like a grand jury indictment. Right, So
I say somebody does something stupid in order to get indicted,
there's like twenty three or twenty five or whatever people
that come together and they indict. So it's twenty three
sovereigns and then you have the one sovereign who fucked up,
and the twenty three sovereigns apply that indictment onto the

(01:08:22):
other sovereign and they basically strip the group sovereignty from
that individual person. And that is basically like the functionality
of law in a nutshell. So when you just say
I don't consent in all this stuff, it's very glib,
it's very it's very ignorant. And the reason why is

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because the thing is is that you are you are
saying you're not being clear as to what your position
is in the group. And the group is where the
sovereignty is located. Right now, If you if you really
didn't want to consent, and you really didn't want to
have anything to do with the group sovereignty at all,

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and you wanted to completely disconnect from it entirely, you
would be stateless. You wouldn't have access to the protections
of the group sovereignty either. You wouldn't have access to
the courts. For example, when all of the released Negro
slaves were released through the Thirteenth Amendment from slavery, they

(01:09:29):
had no citizenship. So they were getting abused very very
heavily by groups at the Ku Klux Klan and everybody else,
and they had there's nothing they could do about it.
They couldn't sue, they couldn't file a complaint, they couldn't
do anything. They and if they fought back or if
they did anything, they could sue them because they had
the ability to sue because they were citizens. Citizens were

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the only ones who could really access the courts. Blah
blah blah blah blah. So if you want to become
a stateless person, you're shifting your relationship with the various
groups and the various things, and the various protections that
you may have, et cetera. Right in America, the discussion

(01:10:13):
that needs to take place is there's two different classifications
of citizenship and protection. One class is the member of
the sovereignty based off the English system and the Magna Carta.
The other group is not. The other group has no
sovereignty all whatsoever. And that's where this term sovereign citizen

(01:10:34):
came from, because people don't know that there's these two classes. Right,
if you go back one hundred and fifty years and
you read the Dread Scott case, Dreads con versus Sandford
Chief Justice, the fifth Chief Chief Justice of our entire country,
Roger B. Tanny, he says right in there that people
of the United States and citizens are synonymous and they

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basically they basically form the sovereignty. He's basically saying sovereign
citizen in essentially right now doesn't use that term exactly right.
So the state citizen category is the category that forms
the sovereignty. The US citizen category is not. And that

(01:11:14):
is the basis of the discussion that needs to take place.
That is the real core of the issue. The core
of the issue is that I don't consent. Okay, where
do you stand? Then? Are you a US citizen? Are
you a state citizen? Or are you stateless? Because then
you got to think if you just say I don't
consent all the stuff, and they look at you as stateless,

(01:11:38):
well then we'll just support you. If you're stateless, we'll
just sport you as a judge. It's like, it's like,
are you a part of this class, the US citizen class.
Are you a part of the sovereignty which is the
state citizen category, or are you stateless?

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
Before you came to Earth, before you were born, where
was your where did your soul exist? It didn't have
a it didn't have a place, you know, it didn't
have a border or a And then this sounds kind
of hippie dippy and all this stuff. And I'm just
trying to argue for the case of to be honest
with you, everything comes down to for me frequency, energy, vibrations.

(01:12:22):
And you know, again that's how I started this, you know,
talking about all this stuff off. You just mentioned kings
a while ago and you said, you know they have power. Well, again,
we're using energy terms when we're talking about beings and
we're talking about just people, you know, souls that exist,
we're using we're using electrical terms. So kings don't have

(01:12:47):
power without currency, without electrical current, and if we are
the ones providing that electrical current, then we can pull
that current collectively together and say we don't adhere to
any of your rules, we don't correct, right, And that's
kind of what I'm getting at. I'm not saying that

(01:13:07):
we you know, because because you're right, you would be nationalists,
you would be stateless and all this other stuff. But
the whole purpose, in my opinion, would be to basically
have a new system where nobody governs us, nobody oversees us,
because we're sovereign, free will beings with with no you know,
no masters, no kings. That that don't mean that as

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in like the no King's movement and saying.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
Well, that was the whole point of the constitution, that
was the whole point of the American system, was to
create that sovereignty and then to create a system of
checks and balances to where that sovereignty could continue without
being destroyed or degraded. And you got to think, this
country has been under terrific attack and every single direction

(01:13:56):
for a long long time, and they've been wanting to
tear down that sovereignty for a long long time. And
we're still here, and it's considered a very successful attempt,
shall we say, right, And if you go into the
if you go into the research and you look at
how you know, really really like for example, the Army
Treating Manual TM twenty twenty five is really interesting. In

(01:14:19):
that manual, it's a manual from nineteen twenty eight. They
say basically they define American citizenship as the first attempt
to make an entire government based on self governance. So
the issue with America is that people don't understand that
this is a country of sovereignty. We do form the sovereignty,

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and that sovereignty is based off of self governance, but
that self governance is in relation to a group. The
problem is people just don't understand that that's the real
issue if you want to know really how America is
actually structured. Not all the rules and bullshit and street

(01:15:06):
sign it's all bullshit. None of that applies to state citizens. Right.
So if you go back and you watch old Wild
West movies, I'm not kidding, those are absolutely fantastic depictions
of what America actually really is. On the state citizens side,

(01:15:28):
the original pre eighteen seventy three America. Two guys want
to fight, you know, find the sheriff just says, you know,
bring the kids and the women inside. Don't be shooting
at the buildings. Two men, two grown men can shoot
each other, and then the sheriff drags off the body
and buries it. You got the sheriff, maybe one other

(01:15:48):
sleepy deputy. They don't do much. You've got the local courthouse.
Most of what that courthouse was probably just involving possession,
who owns what and trying to figure out you know,
oh I own this truck, No way I own it. Well,
let's figure it out in the courthouse. Whatever. That's it.
When you go back in time and you really understand

(01:16:12):
the basic functionality of American law, that really is the
basic functionality of American law that's been lost. And the
way that got lost was when they created the US
citizen category. And then they started to slowly, over the
course of one hundred and forty years, they started putting
everything under the US citizen category. Everyone started saying they

(01:16:37):
are a US citizen without knowing it. That's what happened,
because only a state citizen lives in that world that
you see in the old Wild West films. You don't
see anyone going around talking about state citizenship. You don't
see it on any of the forms. You don't see
it with the Department of State and involving the passports.

(01:16:59):
But that is that world. And and I think that
as Americans, each and every one of us has a
responsibility to understand what happened and to do what we
can to clean up our own shit, to be clear
as to where we're at. I am not a US citizen.
You call me a US citizen, I will fucking completely

(01:17:23):
freak out. You can call me a cunt, you can
call me a faggot, you can call me anything you want.
I really don't care. I have no concerns. My whole
brand is one stupid fuck. I don't care. Call me
a fagot all day, all night. Call call me that
words as a word of endearment. I'll smile and I'll
drink a beer with you. You can call me that
all night long. I won't even complain as long as

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you don't call me a mother fucking US citizen.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
Yeah, but even as a state citizen, you have given
up a lot of rights as well. I mean when
I go no, no, no, that's not true at all, dude,
When I go fishing, I gotta have a fishing license.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
All that's all based off of US citizens. State citizens
do not have any of None of that has any
You can fish all day, all night, I can get drunk,
fall in the water, float to the side. I can
start shooting stuff with shotguns, machine guns, fifty caliber machine
guns strapped to the back of my truck. I can
do it. All State citizens have none of those. Everything

(01:18:23):
you think may apply to the state citizen category, I
can pretty much guarantee you it doesn't. It applies only
to the US citizen category. Again, you got to think
about the wild West. Watch a bunch of wild West films.
You're just you're watching state citizenship. I'm telling you, I'm
telling you it's the easiest way to learn about state citizenship.
Go watch Tombstone, Get in there with fucking Wyatt RP.

(01:18:46):
Get in there with Doc Holiday, go back and walk.
I mean, it's just amazing to me how accurate and
how excellent the depiction of true America really is in
those films. It's unbelievable. I'm telling you. I'm reading all
these court cases and I'm like, damn. I'm like, I'm like,
these were How West movies really nail this shit? Man? Fuck,

(01:19:09):
I can't even it doesn't even make sense to me.
I'm like, how did they did they know this? Is
it based off of books?

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
How do they know all this?

Speaker 4 (01:19:16):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
It's incredible. I'm telling you. Just watch Wild West movies
and that is state citizenship you're looking at, because the
US citizen category didn't even exist until eighteen seventy three.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
Are you a state citizen of any state?

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
California? Yeah, California. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
I thought you had your own nation or something that
you created.

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
I do, and I'm a national of that nation, but
I'm a citizen of California.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
I gotcha.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
Okay, that's correct, and you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Teach people how to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
By the way, it's Yeah, it's easy. There's not even
anything to really do. It's pretty much just the knowledge
and the mindset. Really you don't do anything. I mean,
you do a few things, but really just stop saying
or US citizen and clean up the areas where you
said you did you were, which is a lie. That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
It sounds good, you know. But you also, if you're
using federal money, is in that a form of consent?

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
If you use federal reserve notes, well, federal reserve notes
are an unconditional promise to pay. It's it's a security right,
and and that security is just it's like having any
other security. It's just a possession. This is just a possession.
This and this, they're just possessions. And if you think

(01:20:38):
about it, I only possess them right now. If I
give this to you, I no longer possess it. If
I give this to you, I no longer possess it.
It's that simple, just a possession.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
And this goes back to what I was asking earlier.
So where does the currency come from? Where does the
real currency come from?

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
Well, real real currency, real money, The actually word money
would be golden silver coins and silver coins. In order
to be considered money legally, the legal identification of a
silver coin is a coin, so it has to be
a round, transportable amount of silver, that is three hundred

(01:21:19):
and seventy one point two five grains of what is
called fine silver. The definition of fine silver as point
nine nine nine and above. So it's got to have
in order to be considered money. It's got to have
three checkboxes. Checkbox number one, it's got to be a coin.

(01:21:39):
A bar wouldn't legally be a coin, so a bar
would not be money. Clarification number two has to be
three hundred and seventy one point two five grains, very
very very very very specific amount of grains. Number three,

(01:22:01):
it has to be pure silver in terms of zero
point nine nine nine or above. If it falls into
all three of those classifications, it is legally money.

Speaker 1 (01:22:13):
So what does gold and silver both?

Speaker 4 (01:22:17):
Do?

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
They conduct electricity? And this goes back to again what
I was saying about. The real currency is not the coins.
It's not the gold and the silver. The real currency,
in my opinion, is our energy.

Speaker 3 (01:22:29):
Is us. I don't disagree with you, and a lot
of it's biblical as well. I don't disagree with you.
I don't disagree with you. A lot of it. A
lot of it is the physical manifestation in the physical
world of some sort of idea such as that or
biblical or whatever. I don't disagree with you. I just

(01:22:51):
I'm trying to relate a lot of these more esoteric thoughts,
getting into spirituality and consent. I'm trying to connect a
lot of those ideas into the real world and and
make make something actionable through those ideas. So the idea
that everything's currency, and it's all currency, and it's all

(01:23:12):
basically Okay, that's great, fine, that's that's the that's the basic,
super high level idea. Now, how do we take that
idea and bring it down and convert it into something
actionable to where people can use that information to uh
help themselves and help their life, like for example, you know,
my main goal was to just bring back the original America.

(01:23:33):
We're not in America. None of this stuff has anything
to do with the original America. Imagine the Wild West
with cars, buildings, sidewalks. You know, that's the real America.
I'm telling you. Take take the Wild West movies and

(01:23:54):
put new buildings, roads, freeways, cars, and modern clothing. Everything
else is exactly the same. The sleepy sheriff. He's got
he's got his little opposite of the two shelves, and
he's asleep because he's got his legs up on the table.
You got the local county recorder. People just record ownership

(01:24:15):
in the county recorder. I bought a fucking trailer for
for for twenty five silver coins, and you put it
into the county recorder because the counter recorder records ownership,
and then the courts basically just all they're doing all
the time is just trying to figure out who owns
what and helping people control ownership. And they do that

(01:24:37):
in relation to the county recorder. You say you own it, Jim.
You say you own it, Bob, But I have a
document here from the county recorder that where Jim stated ownership,
you know, and Bob you don't. What do you have?
What evidence do you have that state's ownership? Well? Uh
I uh. And then you get the witnesses up there

(01:24:59):
you find out Bob, fuck Jim's girlfriend. Jim's upset, and
that's how the whole thing got started. You're in contempt
of court. Fuck you, you own the goddamn thing. Bang
it hits the gavel. That's the whole legal system, the
true American legal system. That's the whole legal system in
a nutshell, statutees and pages and documents and FBI and

(01:25:22):
CIA and FDA and all and drivers' licenses and concealed
carry permits and all this crazy stupid shit, even the police.
It's all based off of the US citizen category which
was created in eighteen seventy three and a case called
the Slaughterhouse cases. And it has nothing to do with

(01:25:44):
like ninety five percent of the people that are here,
and everyone walks around saying they're fucking US citizens when
they're not. That's the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
Who did it, though, Who created that and started this
US citizen movement? The Supreme Very, But there were people
that make up the Supreme Court.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
When you understand why it was created, it's actually a
really cool it's actually really cool why they created it.
They created it to give the released negro slaves some
of the protections that all of the white people had
and to end the nightmare. You know, you had klu

(01:26:25):
Klux Klan members murdering huge swaths of black people. You
had craziness, absolute craziness. You had the Civil War they
were trying to figure out, how do we stop that
and not make that happen again. It was during the reconstruction,
so they were trying to deal with a lot of
crazy shit. And their solution to all the crazy shit

(01:26:48):
was to create a second class of citizenship that gives
the released negro slaves just enough power, just a teeny
bit of power, so they can kind of barely fight
back and kind of like barely support themselves in the society.
If they gave the release negro slaves all the powers

(01:27:10):
of white people that were state citizens, I think they
were worried that it would cause the Civil War to
explode back into action. It would cause all the Southern
states during the Confederacy, it would have caused the Confederacy
to explode into violence. Probably, I'm assuming that. I'm assuming that.

(01:27:34):
So they didn't get And Plus, if you go back
to the Naturalization Act and you look in the Constitution,
they're very specific that you have to be a free
white person to be a state citizen. That was also
part of the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:27:48):
So how come that stuff hasn't changed.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
I mean, they can't change it. The Supreme Court can't
change that. That's part of the Constitution. So instead of
going back and changing the Constitution, which they can't do,
they create a whole new class of citizenship, which they
can do. So, in fact, by creating the US citizen category,
they were just following the rules of what they're allowed
to do and what they're not allowed to do. They

(01:28:11):
aren't allowed to say that a state citizen can't be
a free white person. They can't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
So why is there not anybody pushing to have it
all dissolved? And we just go back to being in
the United States of America and there is no US
citizen crop that's me.

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
I'm the guy.

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
Are you pushing for it?

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
Yeah? Exactly, Yeah, that's the whole point.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
That's awesome, man.

Speaker 3 (01:28:33):
We don't even need to dissolve the US citizen category.
We really just need to understand it because the thing
is that the amount of US citizens that are actually
in the country is just a very small percentage of people,
and those protections are there for those people so they
don't wind up murdered end mass by klu klux Klan members,
et cetera. So the US citizen category, when you really

(01:28:57):
get down to it, it does have a purpose, and
that purpose is not for white people.

Speaker 1 (01:29:05):
So, but but they still were called I mean, the
name human being is a monster is still a definition
for the word be a human being.

Speaker 3 (01:29:13):
I mean, I wouldn't even use that. That's not even
that's not even part of any of this. You know,
the term people, we the people is referring to state citizens.
State citizens are you have to be a free white person.
America is a white country filled with white people, and

(01:29:35):
people who are not white are essentially US citizens, and
those US citizens have the bare minimal protections and they
have very specific rules and privileges and immunities that they
live under. The big issue is no one knows any
of this, and everybody's running around saying they're a US citizen.
US citizens have to have driver's license. You don't have

(01:29:57):
the right to drive. US citizens have to have a
concealed carry it permit. You don't have the permission. You
don't have the right to bear arms. You have citizens
have to have a business license. You don't have the
right for freedom and liberty and pursuit of happiness. You
don't have the right to any of that stuff. You
have the right to do these things, but only under

(01:30:18):
specific circumstances. So if the Country of America was operating
the way it's supposed to operate legally, and they didn't
ask anyone if they were US citizens. They just automatically
just operated based off of the information and they never
asked anybody anything. All the white people would be living
in a wild West, totally free guns everywhere, fifty caliber

(01:30:42):
machine guns, explosives, rocket launchers, blow up buildings. If it's knowing,
as long as you weren't hurting anyone, that's common law.
You can't be blowing up someone else's building. You can't
be firing off fifty cows in the middle of the night,
waking everybody up and causing everybody terror in the neighborhood.
You can't do that, right. You can't do anything that
lowers the quality of life or happiness of of of

(01:31:04):
other people. And if you do that too much, the
grand jury comes in, which is all the other people
that make up the body of sovereignty. They create a
grand jury indictment and they say, hey, we represent the sovereignty.
You also represent the sovereignty, and you ain't doing a

(01:31:25):
very good job there, brother, and it's time. It's time
for you to get the heat. But but you're not
going to get the heat for going over to speed
limit that didn't exist. You're not going to get the
heat for carrying a machine gun. That's ridiculous. Every one,
every white person can carry all the machine gun they want.
You can carry a flamethrower. Now, if you carry a
flame thrower into a child's playground and it's not a funny,

(01:31:50):
if it's funny and the kids are cool with it,
and like the parents are, we're gonna show all the
kids a flamethrower today. Fine, But if you're going in
there to terrorize children with a flamethrower, well, I didn't
actually shooting you, the kid of the flamethrower. Yeah, I
got it. But you're lowering the quality of life and
happiness of the parents and the children by terrorizing them

(01:32:15):
with a fucking flamethrow. What the fuck is wrong with you?
That's the grand jury indictment. And when you really, really
really start to understand that this is the world that
we live in, you really don't have a problem with it.
I'm telling you you won't have a problem with it.
I swear to God. I swear to fucking God. When
you really understand how this stuff works, you won't have
a problem with it. I promise. The only people who

(01:32:36):
have a problem with American law are fucking psychopaths. I'm
telling you, I swear to God it is. It is
an anti psychopathic system. It is the most anti psychopathic
system on the planet. It is fucking glorious. I promise you.

(01:32:57):
I swear to you on everything I care about. I
promise I swear. Does the original system have its flaws? Maybe,
but I'm telling you, I'm telling you it really doesn't.
It really really doesn't. If it has a flaw, it's
because it's not. It has to come away from the

(01:33:22):
original functionality in order for it to be like, there's
something wrong here. I'm telling you. The police don't even
exist in the state citizens side of the equation. Police
exist only and exclusively to police US citizens. The police.
It's literally just totally racist. I mean, I mean, if
you really want to boil it down to its ultimate simplicity,

(01:33:43):
the police exist to fuck with negroes that were released
by the thirteenth Amendment. I'm not kidding. I swear to God,
and and a lot of the black guys would be like,
oh damn, I had so many black guys telling me, damn,
that's why they act like they do, driving while black,
DWB all the stuff. Right, It's like there is some
truth to it. I've talked to fucking cops and the

(01:34:03):
LAPD that will that will tell me that told me straight.
Oh yeah, that's just totally real. They don't know. They
don't know that the police is based off the US
citizen category and the US citizen categories for the Negroes.
They don't know that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:16):
But it's based off of US now though it wasn't
just maybe it started off as being you know, uh,
strictly for a need no before they well, because.

Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
We identify as negroes, which because I mean listen, I have,
oh we do. Yeah. Time every time you say you're
a US citizen, you're saying you're a negro.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
Oh I gotcha.

Speaker 3 (01:34:38):
They're asking you. When they ask you, are you a
US citizen, they're asking you, are you a negro? Essentially,
there's more to it, but but it starts to get complicated,
and it has its weaves and ninety five percent, like
just the bang, here's ninety five percent of it. You
could you could go deeper if you want, And there
is more to this, and it really isn't the end
of the story. But I'm telling you, bang ninety five

(01:35:00):
percent in three seconds, are you a US citizen? Just
replaced the term US citizen with negro. So before eighteen
seventy three, there was just the sheriff. And again, the
Wild West movies do a great job. Did you see
any fucking police in the Wild West movies? No, you
don't see any fucking police because they don't exist. It's
the sheriff. The sheriffs for the white state citizens. The

(01:35:24):
police is for all the fucking Negro slaves that were
released after the thirteenth Amendment and given citizenship by the
fourteenth Amendment, which was interpreted and clarified in a case
called the Slaughterhouse cases, which is the creation of the
US citizen category because they were getting fucking massacred. The
blacks were getting fucking massacred.

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
But when did it change, though, When did those who
were not black, those who are white? When did they
start saying, well, I want to be a citizen too,
I want to be a US citizen. And when what
happened there? Whenever, because I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
Very shortly after. I mean, I'm telling you, I've ug
around trying to figure out when did people forget about
this whole state citizen versus federal citizen category? And I'm
telling you, like a lot of the research and stuff.
I mean, it's the guy who delivered the original opinion
in the slaughter House cases was an Associate Justice of

(01:36:18):
the Supreme Court called Samuel Freeman Miller. And I'm trying
to find cases between April fourteenth, nineteen seventy three, and
his death in eighteen eighteen seventy three and his death
in eighteen ninety where he's talking about this or applying this.
I've only been able to find a couple. So the

(01:36:39):
problem is is is the Justice has made this big, fucking,
huge monster decision to create this whole new class of citizen.
They talk about it like a couple times after that,
that's it. So nobody knew and they just didn't talk
about it. And then time goes by, I swear to God,
by like the turn of the century, nineteen hundred, everyone

(01:37:02):
was just saying they're a US citizen.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
Do you get targeted by law enforcement agencies? Or do
you get any harassment from government any kind of government
agencies or anything.

Speaker 3 (01:37:13):
Not even not even the IRS does absolutely everything I
ask of it. Sometimes I need to repeat myself a
couple of times. It's like a child, But they do
everything I ask every single time I ask it the

(01:37:34):
Department of State in terms of getting passports and special
kind of passports and stuff. I made some adjustments to
the way we do it back in December. We have
not had even the slightest issue or disagreement with the
Toronto State since December. Prior to that point, we had
like five percent of our submissions. We had a little

(01:37:55):
bit of a rockiness. We were able to get through.
Most of those that we weren't able to get through
is like extremely low. But we had like a five percent,
like let's say rockiness. Okay, that was completely obliterated in December.
I made some I had some huge breakthroughs in research,
made some adjustments. Bang, it's been smooth sailing, asleep at
the wheel, sleepy sheriff, hat over, face, legs on table,

(01:38:20):
asleep at high noon since December. No issues with any
other government agency, not even not even a peep. Are
people getting pulled over and arrested for not having driver's license?
Or are people getting pulled over and arrested for using
my special diplomatic license? Plates that I issue that people

(01:38:41):
can buy. Yes, we've had about fifteen or so of those,
maybe some more. Every single one of those cases as
of right now, has had every single charge dropped. Did
they go through a pretty horrific experience by getting pulled over?

(01:39:03):
And yes, but all the charges associated with it are dropped.
They've all got their shit back. And you know what
I teach is basically like, look, they're gonna keep doing
this unless we start going after the cops that act
like this. So now, like what I teach and what
I push for is we we're going in hot. You

(01:39:26):
pull us over and you steal our shit. We're gonna
get all the charges dropped, no problem, and then we
are coming for you. You will be waking up at
night in a cold sweat. I will, I will you.
You will be thinking of me all day long. I
am your nightmare. I will destroy your marriage because you

(01:39:50):
can't even think about your wife because the only person
you can think about is.

Speaker 1 (01:39:56):
Me, the attorney in fact.

Speaker 3 (01:39:59):
Right, yeah, So the thing is is that it's it's
it's that is now. Are all cops bad? That's the
thing too, Even on my side of the spectrum, Oh
fuck cops. A cab all this shit. No, I don't
agree with that at all, but the ones that are
need to be fucking publicly obliterated. And I talk about violence,

(01:40:23):
I'm talking about legal procedure that that stripped them, just
like a grand jury indictment of all their power and
all their bullshit and removes them and destroys their name
to the point where they can get work. They're fucked.
They lose their wife, they lose their kids, they lose

(01:40:43):
their job, and they lose all credibility in their community.
That is the solution. It's the same as a grand
jury indictment. It's the exact same mentality. It's a grand
jury indictment. It's it's original American law. That's what I'm
talking about. I'm not talking about mulotov cocktails. I'm not

(01:41:04):
talking about machine guns, pistols and beating people up. I'm
talking about the same system that you see in the
Wild West movies. It's the exact same system. You do
that to me, They're gonna get it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
The reason I asked out a while ago, by the way,
was because when you question authority, when you push back,
and when you take money away from the government and
things like that, which is all things that it sounds like
you're doing successfully. You know, Are they coming at you
online as well? Are they, you know, banning your website
from search engines and things like that. Are they kicking

(01:41:43):
you off of social media?

Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
In fact, it's the opposite. Although my Facebook was just
taken down like five days ago. It's in appeals right now.
I'll probably get it back. If I don't, that's going
to become litigation and a bunch of good fun. That's
the first time I've ever had an issue. In fact,
prior to five days ago or six days ago, all

(01:42:05):
my work, I've been getting messages from Facebook saying, hey,
creator award, your posts have so much engagement and you've
grown your audience. We're gonna start showing your material to
other people who we think may like it for free.
Like we're gonna like organically push same thing with YouTube.

(01:42:27):
YouTube organically recommended for you. It organically shows my material
to other people. My material is very unique obviously, like
I'm not ripping on people, I'm not bash on people.
I don't I don't push for any sort of violence.
It's very education based. It's like the definitions of words,

(01:42:50):
the functionality of law, education, education, it's fun, goofy jokes, outfits, costumes,
So there's nothing. My material is not something that would
necessarily trigger these sorts of whatever you would call it. Right.
I curse a lot, but that doesn't seem to be
an issue, never really been an issue. Every once in

(01:43:12):
a while, one of my I monetize my videos. Now
every once in a while they won't allow me to
monetize one, or they'll give me limited monetization, and they'll
say cause of cursing, and it's like five thousand curse
words in that video. Okay, fine, that's about it. I'm
telling you up until, like I said, five or six
days ago, but I've had a lot of people that

(01:43:34):
I've talked to that said that they're going on a
whole rampage right now over at Facebook. They're doing all
sorts of craziness. So maybe I got just caught up
in that and they're gonna give me. I have an appeal.
It's still processing. So are they just gonna give me
my shit back and say sorry? I don't know. If
they don't, then then that officially marks the very very

(01:43:56):
very first time I have ever had any sort of
banning or shadow banning from any government or non government agency,
or any difficulty at all whatsoever from anyone. I had.
Diaris sent me three or four bills recently. I said
them all the treasure. I said, yep, you guys can
go ahead and just go and swap these on fedwire.

(01:44:17):
No problem authorized them. Not a fucking peep. Not a
fucking peep. That was in November of last year. Not
a peep. What does that mean? They did exactly what
I told them to do.

Speaker 1 (01:44:32):
So for any anyone out there who's listening and they
want to contact you and they want to get your
help doing some of the things you're talking about today,
how do they get in touch with you?

Speaker 3 (01:44:42):
Well, I have a free course. It's on one stupid
fuck dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:44:48):
But by the way, I love that. I love that
you take what you do seriously, but you don't take
yourself too seriously.

Speaker 3 (01:44:53):
Thank you. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. We have
a lot of fun. Well that that. You know, if
I took myself really seriously, it would this whole thing
become an armed militia in about three seconds. And I
was trying to prevent that from happening. That's the kind
of one of the major reasons why it's all structured
the way it is. You know, I understand my power,

(01:45:15):
and if I wanted to rally a full blown, trained,
standing army, a real militia, I could literally create that
in about five seconds. I have a lot of guys
that I have, guys who literally train special forces in
the military. They have a whole training camp in like
Utah or something. I've got connections into all sorts of

(01:45:37):
groups and people and things. If I wanted to put
together a militia or even a stuck an army, I
could do it. But the thing is that I don't
want to do that. We don't need that. All we
need is the basic functionalities of law, the grand jury
indictment system, the basic functionality of the idea behind the
grand jury indictment system, the common law idea of what

(01:46:01):
forms the sovereignty individual sovereignty versus versus group sovereignty. The
application of force upon an individual who is a part
of that sovereignty, who is lowering or damp lowering the
standard of living, terrorizing people or damaging people, or harming people,
or in general living a life that is lowering the

(01:46:24):
quality of life for the group which composes the sovereignty,
and enough people agree with that, then Ben, you have
a grand jury indictment. It's just that simple. It really
is that simple. But to answer your question, I have
a free course and then I have a step by
step guide page on there. And one of the first

(01:46:46):
things that I recommend that you read is a very
long page or article however you want to say. It's
almost like a small book at this point, called a
Treatise on the Word Person, and that goes into all
of the court cases associated with the manufacturing of the
US some class and then it breaks down an entire
linear historical timeline of everything that occurred and what it

(01:47:08):
means to be a US citizen in relation to a
state citizen, coming straight out of the court system and
the dictionaries. It's not just me talking about how much
of bullshit. It's all original sourced material with all the
original quotes, and that that Treatise on the Word Person
is located on Williams and Williams Law Firm dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:47:31):
And I'll put all these all the links to one
stupid fuck dot com and Williams and Williams Law Firm
dot com and anything you mentioned the treaties is that
own you said, that's on Williams and Williams Okay, well,
perfect man. Thank you so much for joining me and
really answering a lot of the tough questions. I mean,

(01:47:52):
not that they were super tough for anything, but I
know I kind of think differently when it comes to
you know, freedom and free will and energy and manipulation
of our energy and things like that. But it sounds
like we're on the same we have the same mindset.
But but you're You're right, we kind of have to.
We have to live together. We have to as we're
here on earth. We have to be sovereign but also

(01:48:13):
as a part of a unit in some way. So
we have some rules and laws that we have to follow.

Speaker 3 (01:48:18):
If you want, if you want true individual sovereignty to
the ultimate level, you would, You wouldn't need It's not
very hard to achieve. You would. You would go to Montana.
You would buy yourself a shack in the mountains or
whatever for nothing. You know, it probably cost you, you know,
eighty thousand dollars to buy some little shack or build

(01:48:39):
a fucking thing. I don't know, just buy the land
and build the fucking shack, and and you be out
you know, in the forest or or near a ravine,
you could go fishing and you would just essentially disconnect
from society entirely. That would be the the the maximum

(01:49:00):
level of individual sovereignty. You wouldn't be a part of
a group that forms collective sovereignty. You wouldn't need to
and as long as you weren't hurting anyone. Let's say,
for example, you do build a log cabin next to
a ravine, and the ravine has fish, and you're in
there with some giant fucking net and you're catching every
goddamn fish under the sun, moon and stars. You don't

(01:49:23):
even need most of them. They're dying. The people downstream
all of a sudden, they don't have any fish. There's
extinction of fish. Now at that point, your individual sovereignty
is going to end at some point. If that, if
that collective nearby groups decide they want to start looking
around and try to find the son of a bitch
that's causing this fish problem. They find you. I don't consent.

(01:49:48):
I don't consent. I don't consent right up until the
barrel of the fucking revolver pushes up against the temple
of your fucking mouth. And then it's all over. So
that's the reality of situation. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:50:02):
I mean, like I said, I do agree that we
are connected on a different level, even on an energetic
level as souls. I think we're connected. So I do
agree that we have to move in unison with the
rest of the school of fish. But I don't like
to consent to everything, man, I don't. I just don't.
I don't agree with it. I do like to operate

(01:50:22):
on my own without the group mentality, because I do
think that that can lead us down dangerous paths, if
that makes any sense where, Because I honestly I think
the group mentality is what has led us to this
US citizen thing. Like we've all went yep, that's the
way we're supposed to do it, and we just keep
going down that path and nobody corrects it. Nobody says,

(01:50:42):
wait a minute, let's swim back that way a little bit.
We've forgotten that we're on this path, and we've gotten
off that path pretty far. And I'm glad there's somebody
at least like you, who's out there doing it right
and saying, hey, we need to correct course here and
get back to who we are as United States of America.

Speaker 3 (01:51:01):
Yeah, we just need to understand what happened, correct our
own situation. I spent a year just correcting my own stuff,
and that was back when I had no idea what
the hell was going on, So it took me a year.
Now you can correct your own shit in like fucking weeks,
if that even. And then once you're done correcting your
own shit and kind of putting yourself in a really

(01:51:22):
good place, like for example, getting rid of your driver's license,
getting rid of all your businesses, getting rid of all
your business licenses, getting ridy of any concealed carry permits,
getting rid of any phishing licenses. Now, the definition of
getting rid of is you go in there and you
say that's it. Close this thing down, I have nothing

(01:51:42):
to do with this, give the document, they make you
sign a surrender form whatever, sign it, and then you
want evidence proving that you went in and specifically gave
it to them and it's done. That's how strong. My
definition of getting rid of something is not sticking it
in a drawer. That's not getting rid of it, that's

(01:52:05):
being retarded. Getting rid of it is going down there
saying fuck you, and then having evidence that it's done.
That's the definition of getting rid of everything. Driver's license, everything,
out of the simony stars that you have that you
think you need, you don't. It's bullshit. Get rid of
all of it. Second thing is you start opening up

(01:52:26):
trusts and stuff like that, and you start operating totally
in a way where you don't own anything, you control everything.
It's not connected to your name, because your name has
all sorts of issues with it, like birth certificates and
all the other thing. Just create trusts, don't. Some people
run out and try to do all the stuff with
the name, and this with the name. I've trademarked my name.
You could do that. But the easiest thing to do
it is just make trust easy pasy, get rid of

(01:52:48):
the name. The name's not on fucking anything. I don't
own anything. I don't have anything to do with anything.
I don't own any cars, I don't have anything to
do with nothing. My name's not attached to fucking fuck all.
I don't even have an apartment on paper. I don't
live anywhere on paper. I don't own anything on paper.
I don't have any federal reserve notes on paper. None
of it's connected to my name, never will be that's

(01:53:08):
the second step. So there are ways you can. You
can live in the system and enjoy the system, and
you can you can be a part of the group
sovereignty while still exercising a tremendous amount of individual sovereignty.
But the individual sovereignty ends where the sovereignty of others begins.

(01:53:29):
If you go and smash someone's window and climb to
their house and start breaking their shit and breaking their kneecaps,
your individual sovereign. Oh I could do that. I could
pick up a lead pipe and smash that window. That's
my individual sovereignty. Now it's not motherfucker, because your individual
sovereignty has now encroached into someone else's ability to exert

(01:53:51):
their individual sovereignty. And that is the grand jury indictment system.
It's just that simple. When you watch the Wild West
films and you see them doing this, it really is
that simple. All this complex bullshit of courts and drivers'
licenses and police and speed limit signs that, oh my god,

(01:54:15):
it's all under the US citizen category has nothing to
do with state citizens, who are white people. That's the
original American class. The state citizen class is the class
that was here before eighteen seventy three and is still here.
Everything you hate about this country is under an entirely

(01:54:35):
different class that probably doesn't have anything to do with you.
It's just an educational nightmare. We just need to educate
ourselves and educate each other, and this will all just
work itself out naturally, I promise.

Speaker 4 (01:55:11):
But I'm standing at.

Speaker 5 (01:55:12):
The growth for I don't know where to our news,
a control.

Speaker 4 (01:55:19):
Trying not to see my soul.

Speaker 5 (01:55:21):
I'm standing at the gross I don't know where to
our news, a control.

Speaker 4 (01:55:29):
Trying not to sell me.

Speaker 6 (01:55:31):
You want me in the right direction, God, send me
your blessing.

Speaker 4 (01:55:36):
I'm so tie your stress.

Speaker 6 (01:55:38):
And it's music's turn to oubsession, upsession.

Speaker 4 (01:55:42):
I got a long way to go.

Speaker 6 (01:55:43):
He's my family, my clothes soaking with mais some sweat
and the ring.

Speaker 4 (01:55:47):
Going happen, say having say ors you, I can change
all my mistakes.

Speaker 6 (01:55:52):
But y'all be half done there, foll y'all that beings
of things that I saw, all those of nat from
the out hou.

Speaker 4 (01:56:00):
But now I can stop my own phone. I gotta
stand twn. O'vercome the scene, umping down the Dorbro stand.
The church here so dead, deal Lord.

Speaker 6 (01:56:12):
Well, I'm standing at the gross I don't know where
to our.

Speaker 4 (01:56:17):
News control, trying not to see it my soul.

Speaker 5 (01:56:22):
I'm standing at the gross boom, I don't know where
to our news a control, trying not just.

Speaker 6 (01:56:31):
Set up now, witting back, thinking about the men maris now,
I don't know who's a.

Speaker 4 (01:56:35):
Friend of me.

Speaker 6 (01:56:36):
These people at Black they get to me. Well, that's
still a miss to reef. A man's never wants me.

Speaker 7 (01:56:43):
To lose my my religion.

Speaker 4 (01:56:47):
But I won't stop without a fight. I won't give
and won't give. So I'm gonna sit down right head
and pray. And that's the.

Speaker 6 (01:56:56):
Lord above to help me change my way today. The
world's still agreed.

Speaker 4 (01:57:00):
And you move a to a bath, a byres to
the break.

Speaker 6 (01:57:03):
You can love me A I'm rember, don't break.

Speaker 4 (01:57:06):
I'm at the cross room, trying to find my way.
Can your health be? Oh O, can you help me?
I'm standing at the gross room.

Speaker 5 (01:57:15):
I don't know when my nis a control, trying not
to see my soul. I'm standing at the gross I
don't know which our news a control, trying not to
sell so little.

Speaker 4 (01:57:33):
These guys got.

Speaker 7 (01:57:35):
Me well pasty side to take.

Speaker 4 (01:57:40):
My head shot the way, Show me the wig, please,
guys got.

Speaker 7 (01:57:45):
Me psy inside. I jo to take money showing the wig.

Speaker 4 (01:57:53):
I'm standing at.

Speaker 5 (01:57:55):
I don't know when. My nigs a control, trying not
to see my soul. I'm standing at the cross moms.

Speaker 4 (01:58:06):
I don't know where to go. Our nime is a control.
I'm trying, not yourself so. But I'm standing at the growls.

Speaker 5 (01:58:16):
I don't know where to Our nimes a control.

Speaker 4 (01:58:21):
Trying not to save my soul. I'm standing at the
cross moments. I don't know where you'll go.

Speaker 5 (01:58:28):
Our nigh is a control, trying, not yourself so

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