Subterranean Secrets: D.U.M.B.S., The Grays & Reptoids, Hybrid Breeding, Plasma, Ley Lines & the Energy Grid w/ Rye Voss

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Speaker 3 (01:07):
Here we are talking about dumbs, and I will met.
The first time I heard of dumbs was from the
confessionals from Tony Tony Merkle, and before that, I like,
I did hear, I did hear of like you know,
like these underground bunkers and whatnot, but I never knew
the acronym and and all the tails that flow from this.

(01:28):
So you know, if you're willing to enlighten me and
enlighten everyone else, I would love that, And I'm sure
I can kick in a couple tidbits of information, but
I think this is, uh, this is your wheelhouse for
this one.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, well, I think we can start off with what
DUMBS stands for, and that stands for deep underground military bases,
and it refers to these massive underground facilities believed to
be operated by government or military factions. And obviously they're
operated in secret. They have black budgets and all this stuff,
and these bases are said to support highly classified operations.

(02:04):
They house advanced technology, secure research, and possibly even non
human activities such as hybrid breeding programs, which we can
get into in a minute.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
It's you know, these underground cities that are connected via
high speed tunnels, and they're often hidden beneath mesas and
mountains and deserts and national parks and all these places,
and there's always military bases close by. Obviously, they're always
very close by.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, exactly, it's always oddly coincidental that they're that close
behind beside. And when you mentioned hybrid, the first thing
that came to my mind is is my friend Karen
Wilkinson Stolen Seed, Evil Harvest. She wrote that book where
she talks about she believes she has never actually taken
off planet. She believes she was taken, you know, into

(02:52):
these dumbs and whatnot with these high speed elevator type
kind of deals where they were going you know, sidewayser
fast sideways. So this is this is really interesting.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah, I think that's what happens when people get abducted
I think they they their consciousness is altered and and
then they're taken to Everybody always thinks that it's like
some spaceship in the sky. I don't really believe that.
I actually believe it's probably in these underground facilities and
they you know, they have access to these almost like
screen screen door I don't know how to say screen

(03:24):
doors like these, uh what do they call me? Or
you know, how you put something that cloak they like
cloak entry ways into different places and stuff like that.
And I think I think that can easily be achieved
with electromagnetism and things like that. So I think when
when people get abducted, they are taken to these places
where all kinds of different things happen on them. But
there's some there's some real. So people think that dumbs

(03:47):
are dumb. They're like, ah, that doesn't you know those
aren't real. Those are all fake. And you hear stories
about this, so people who listen, you know, obviously we're
very conspiratorial. We're going to be geared towards that kind
of stuff. Anyways, we're we're automatically going to think something
is going on. But in the US government they've confirmed
you know shy En Mountain Complex, which is nora AD's

(04:07):
nuclear harden based from the Cold War. They've confirmed Mount
Weather which is in Virginia and that's a FEMA Continuity
of Government facility. They've confirmed Raven Rock, which is in
Pennsylvania and it's known as Site ARE. It's basically like
an underground Pentagon. They've confirmed Greenbrier Bunker, which is like
a secret relocation center for Congressman and that was exposed

(04:28):
in nineteen ninety two. There's Site SEE and Site M
which are these like nuclear command structures. So you know,
all of these places we know for a fact do exist, right,
these are real places. They've been confirmed by the US government.
So dumbs, underground infrastructure, military infrastructure does actually exist. And
I believe I could. I might be wrong, but I
think Camp David is something like that too. They have

(04:50):
some sort of a facility for you know, presidents and
things like that as well. But yeah, so these things
are real, they exist.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Which is yeah, so like you know, you can't deny
that they are there. Of course, there are some conspiracy
ideas or stories that have originated from them, but they're real.
These dums are real. Yeah, Like even Area fifty one.
Everybody knows of Area fifty one, that that is definitely
another deep underground military site as well.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
But well, I mean people know, people know that it exists,
but it's not really confirmed that it's you know, nobody's
paying there. I was like, yeah, I was just trying
to I was trying to say that there are really
confirmed ones that we know for sure of. But yeah,
Area fifty one is highly speculative that we do actually
have an underground based there obviously.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Obviously, yeah that's where all the aliens hang out man
men in black and all that other stuff. Yes, all right,
so where do we Where do we begin with this?

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Then?

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Where is the next uh jumping you know, like where
do we jump off to from it? From there?

Speaker 1 (05:57):
I think it's important to start off by explaining how
these things are made a little bit. I don't know
that we should.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
That is a great thing to talk about, because I'm
running this through my mind. I'm like, where is first
of all, where is all this material going? Because they
have to excavate this, they have to tunnel, Like, where
is this material going? So fantastic. Yeah, I'm interested in this.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Obviously, everything speculative. What we talk about here. We don't
really know for sure, but there's allegedly these nuclear powered
tunnel boring machines that are capable of melting rock. Again,
we don't know, but there's technologies that exist that are
probably very extremely advanced. If there are underground bases, then
that means that they have technologies, cloaking technologies and you know,

(06:38):
UFO technologies and things like that that can do things
that we couldn't imagine in our lifetime that are probably
going on. So I'm sure it's like some of these
old stone structures they find. You ever seen the boreholes
that are like perfectly circle.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
They're perfect like like how they cut these stones and
and everything else its to it's not by saws.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, my little brother works at a like a CNC.
He operates a CNC type machine where he basically he's
a machinist and he he knows like exact specifications.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
What is a CNC.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
I don't know that. I don't know the actual name
of it. It's like a cutter, like a laser cutter
type machine that you put in like a metal like
something metal and when you give it specifications and it'll
cut it to a perfect circle.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Like Osma cutter kind of thing, kind of yeah. OK.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
And he so he knows all these things, and he
was looking at he was talking about this vase one
time and how this vase was so precisely cut, and
he's like, we can't even do that with this machine
that we have. And it's that's how impressive this stuff is.
So clearly somebody has some form of laser cutting technology,
you know, way back when, thousands of years ago. So

(07:52):
I'm sure that some of this stuff still exists, and
they probably use it for breakaway civilizations and all these
other different things that they got going on deep underneath Earth. Basically,
I'm sure there's all kinds of subterranean secrets that we
don't know about, right So, but there's you know, massive
black budgets that sort of you know, money goes missing
in the United States all the time, ends of billions

(08:14):
of dollars go missing. And I actually personally think that
wars are started, like the war in Ukraine and the
war in Iraq, and the war in Iran and Israel
and all these other places, just so they can continue
funneling money to companies like Bechel and Haliburton and Lockheed
Martin and North Grumman and all these different companies to
essentially continue funding these projects. There was a lady named

(08:38):
Catherine Fits something another who was own Tucker Carlson talking
about this. She used to work in the Bush administration,
and she basically was saying, like, how there's a bunch
of money that's going that's being funneled over into a
black budget that helps create this breakaway civilization underground, and
the whole purpose of it is for rich and powerful

(08:59):
people to live in case of like some kind of
a cataclysm that's coming or something like that. So anyways,
there are allegedly these companies have private contracts with the
government and their money's being funneled to them to continue
operating these bases. Now it gets into the very secretive stuff, right,
like what are they used for extraterrestrial contact and joint

(09:21):
operations between human military factions and alien species. They're used
for breakaway civilizations support, which we've already talked about that,
they're used for hybridization and abduction programs. And there's researchers
like doctor David Jacobs and Barbara Lamb who have documented
abductees being taken to underground facilities, and you mentioned Karen

(09:41):
as well. All these people are contributing to this, to
this research ongoing, but those are the ones who kind
of came before all of them, and they claimed that,
you know, there's involvement in a human alien hybrid breeding program.
And these facilities house like development of exotic propulsion and
AI and teleportation and mind control and dance weapons and

(10:04):
things like that, and it's usually connected to these special
access programs in the United States. These are a lot
of terms that people who follow government and stuff like
that might know, like special access programs. So but yeah,
you mentioned some of them already. Some of the common
alleged DUMBS locations are like Area fifty one in Nevada,
the Denver Airport in Colorado, China, Lake Naval Facility in California,

(10:28):
Mount Shasta in California, which is linked to these legends
of a Limerian civilization that that was an Antediluvian that
survived the flood by going deep underground basically, so there's
a a Limurian civilization that lives in Mount Shasta still
and they sort of call it this ant farm. I
think that's what they call it, because it's like all

(10:49):
these cave, this tunnel system that looks like an ant
farm in the mountain in Mount Shasta. So and of
course you've got Alaska's Black Pyramid, which is rumored to
be this massive, the biggest in the world underground energy facility.
It's a literal triangle and people who have remote viewed
have remote viewed into that. There's I think there's a
show called Ancient Alaska or Aliens in Alaska or something

(11:12):
like that where they talk pretty they go in depth
about the Black Pyramids. So people to check that out.
You can go check that out.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yes, definitely, I will.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
I don't know if you remember. In twenty fifteen, there
was a lot of talk about FEMA and all this
FEMA camps and all this stuff, and there was a
conspiracy about Walmart and how Walmart's looked like they're prepared
to be these FEMA camps and they got bars on
them and all this other stuff. It's really interesting, it
was really good conspiracy. I don't I mean, I don't
know what was really made of that, but it was
really interesting at the time. But it's speculated that during

(11:45):
the twenty fifteen Jade Helm exercise they discovered these tunnel
entrances to deep underground military basis.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yeah, so that was this jade helm exercise that those
were in like Walmart, they found these entrances. Yeah yeah,
uh wow, okay, okay, And then legend you said something
about the Dulce.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
No, I was gonna say, we can get into the
story of the Dulce base in New Mexico. But you know,
there's there's a lot going on in these alleged locations,
like I said, the Denver Airport and the Alaska Black
Pyramid that we could sort of unpack if you want
to unpack some of that stuff.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Definitely, let's let's start with, uh, the Alaska Pyramid. That's
something I've I've never heard of. That's that's news to me.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Really, you've never heard of that. I Mean, there's people
who have remote viewed have all right, so I don't
fully know the story, but there's a guy who I
can't I can't even remember, so I won't even go there.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
But like like Pat Price, like one of those remote viewers,
like Pap Price.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, and they remote viewed and they could see all
this all this hybridization programs and stuff, and as they
remote viewed, someone had seen them while like one of
the aliens and like noticed them looking at you know
him period and.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
So very similar to was it inger Inger Lockwood. One
of them was remote viewing actually the backside of the moon,
not not the This is what I remember was they're
remote viewing the backside of the moon and someone saw them.
It's kind of like I caught you sneaking around doing
something you shouldn't do. So this is kind of this
sounds very similar to that. But this is a Black pyramids.

(13:19):
A black pyramid in Alaska.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Okay, oh yeah, it's it's allegedly the biggest one. I mean,
there's obviously there's talks about like the Antarctica Pyramid as well.
That's being really and we don't know. I mean, there's
a lot of them. I think even gosh, what is
the name of the Oh god, I'm sorry, I'm Jonna blank.
It's one of the thirty third parallel. There's find a
lot of dead bobbies there and they believe that the
whole mountain itself is a pyramid. They because it's like

(13:42):
pointy and it's like really odd shape. But it's over
in like Tibet somewhere. I forgot the name of it.
But okay, no mount Kylash. That's what it is Mount
College over in.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Tibet before and you're not like it's kind of like
forbidden to go. It's kind of not necessarily forbidden to go,
but it's kind of like no one goes because it's
like cursed or something.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Well, people will go up the mountain like to hike it,
and nobody has ever made it to the top because
there was a group of hikers from Russia that or
the Siberia that tried to hike it and they got
halfway up and they realized they started aging. They started
like growing long fingernails, and their skin was getting wrinkly,
and their beards were turning gray and all this stuff.
It was it's a really interesting story. So basically nobody

(14:24):
ever goes up it because of those stories. They found
like these dead big pilot dead bodies in it. I
don't know how to else to describe that, but it
essentially has this heavier than normal electromagnetic energy that affects
time somehow, and I think what happens is people go
through these little time slips. We talked about this before

(14:44):
on my show, where you know your consciousness is altered
when you walk through these electromagnetic energies and it just
like changes you and you might even shift into a
different reality. So who knows, they might have actually been
on that mountain for many, many years, even though it
might have been like two days to them. So it's
pretty interesting.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Jeez, Like maybe like like a pocket they hit like
a different pocket dimension almost, And even though you know,
they could have been up there for years and it
seemed like seconds, but even when they came, if they
would have come back, it might have been like, you know,
minutes as well. It it that's interesting, fascinating.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah, And the Denver International Airport, that's a very interesting
one to me because there's rumored to be sort of
a command hub almost like a subway, like a Grand
central station for this underground network system for people to travel.
So that's a very interesting place as well.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah, the Denver Airport is a extremely weird. It has
so many things, you know, like Lucifer, the Demon Horse,
the time capsule, you know, where they have if I
if I recall that they they dedicated to like the
New World Airport Commission, which doesn't even exist at as well. Well,

(16:00):
So it's it's interesting.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Well, I mean that should tell you a lot right
there or anything. Anytime you hear New World, like, what
does that mean? Does that mean that the old world
is going away? That they're gonna is something that they
know something? Is there a catechism coming that's gonna wash
the old world away and they're going to have these
new world order?

Speaker 4 (16:18):
This?

Speaker 1 (16:18):
I don't know, man, It's like it just seems like,
why would they put all this stuff out in public
for us to see? Doesn't make any sense today.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
I think they have to. I think they have to
let you know what they're doing, even though they're not
fully disclosing everything to you. And it's kind of like, well,
we told you you know that it was there for
you to see, and you chose to accept it. You
chose to continue with that.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Yeah, well let's go ahead and get into the Dulce base,
New Mexico, because this is a big story. I have
found this this document online and I don't know how
to how else to explain it. But it's a word
document that I might have found on a because whenever
I start deep diving stuff, I don't trust Google. I
start going to all these other sources. And I went

(17:03):
to school for marketing, but I took a lot of
like liberal studies classes, and these classes taught me a
lot about how to use search engines stuff, and so
there was sort of a tie in to like learning
about all these different things anthropology and all this other
interesting stuff. And I used to have to use search
engines like Dogpile and all these other different search engines
to find these scholarly articles and all this other stuff.

(17:25):
And so I remember coming across this document it was
like underground Bases, and I had to save it, but
it took like a long time to save it, and
in fact, if I try to open it, it takes
like three or four minutes to open. And that's on
a Mac computer. So it's like full of stories about
underground bases and entrances and all this stuff. It's fascinating.

(17:46):
If you ever want a copy of it, I'll send
it to you. But I have it saved because I'm
always like, who knows where this came from? I actually
put it into chat GPT and I asked it where
did this come from? And it had like a long
list of sources, so it was like legitimate sources. Though
it was like well legitimate to us, you know, you know,
by the way, for people who don't know chat GPT
is programmed by humans. Like it's not some all powerful,

(18:09):
all knowing things. It's programmed by humans, and humans assign
it this weighted score for all of these different scholarly
articles and New York Times and all this stuff, so
it'll New York Times will have a weight of ten,
for example, and bright bart News would have a minus ten.
So if you search for an article on chat GPT,

(18:29):
it's more likely going to give you the New York
Times articles. So you can't really trust chat chat GPT.
But you have to be very Yeah, you have to
be very specific about what you want, and you have
to say things like give me alternative sources. And I
don't want mainstream articles. I don't want anything with a
weighted score of ten or five or whatever. I want

(18:49):
the stuff with the negative scores. So you really have
to ask that stuff when you do chat GPT searches.
But if you also want it, you can go to
duck dot go and yandex and all these other different
Like I said, dog pile, if it still exists, I
don't haven't used it in a while. There's a bunch
of different resources you can go to find this kind
of stuff. But anyways, again I found this underground document,

(19:10):
this underground basis document with a list of all these places,
and like I said, Dulce Base was one of the
biggest ones, and I had to It was a bunch
of different stories and so I had to sort of
combine them into a format that you know, put the difference.
Because these sources came from whistleblowers like Paul Benowitz who
heard these strange electronic commissions from I'm sorry, strange electronics

(19:33):
transmissions from Kurtland Air Force Base, and he thought that
there was an alien base nearby. So he was like
a whistleblower about what he heard, what he thought he saw.
There's an author named William Hamilton the Third. He published
eyewitness accounts and secondhand reports in an article he wrote
called Cosmic, Top Secret and Alien Magic. There's a author
named Val Valerian. He linked Dulcet activities to global networks

(19:56):
of underground facilities, and he emphasized the metaph physical goals
of alien operations, which we'll get into in a little bit.
There's whistleblowers like the famous Thomas c who's now been
outed as Thomas Costello. He's a security officer with an
Ultra seven clearance, and he described disturbing abuses such as
captive humans being used for genetic harvesting and soul transfer experiments,

(20:19):
and he claimed to have escaped with physical evidence. And
then there's Christa Tilton who is an alleged abductee who
recalled being escorted through these sterile tunnels filled with bio chambers,
medical equipment, and telepathic gray beings. And then there's Phil
Snyder who is a geologist and engineer involved in construction

(20:39):
constructing the base. So again there's a there's a there's
from abductees to construction workers, to UH security officers, to
geologists and engineers, you know, to basically coming from different sources.
So and again these are also compiled by the other
researchers like I mentioned earlier, So there's there's a lot
of different people coming at this with the same similar stories, right.

(21:03):
And the Dulce Base is reportedly located beneath the Archilate
of Mesa in Jicarillo at Apache Reservation near Dulce. It's
highly secretive. It's a multi level underground facility said to
be jointly operated by factions of the US government and
extraterrestrial beings, specifically grays and reptoids, and we'll get into

(21:23):
that in a moment too. This cooperation extends to shared laboratories,
genetic experimentation, and consciousness manipulation. The base is embedded with
a vast subterranean tunnel and shuttle network that links it
to sites like Los Alamos, Area fifty one, Taos, and
other secret of military, scientific and extraterrestrial facilities. This hidden

(21:44):
transportation grid is said to employ advanced magnetic levitation also
known as maglev and vacuum tube systems, forming part of
a global underground infrastructure infrastructure, and these high speed transit
systems reportedly exceed mock II, enabling rapid covert movement between
domestic and international underground hubs. That is a lot of

(22:04):
information I just don't want everybody. Sorry, I'm a terrible
reader too, by the way.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
So that's all right, No, that that's that's in like
super fascinating. So that that is kind of like the
general overview of this now and and I've heard of
will say based before being kind of like this jointly
shared and operated base of humans, like the humans were
in the upper levels and the lower levels that's where

(22:29):
you find the aliens and the alien species.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah, and that's where the you know, the rumors of
UH being a covert research facility for both physical and
metaphysical sciences, and that includes the hybridization of human and
extraterrestrial genomes to create specialized beings for labor, intelligence gathering,
and planetary seating of all things. So it seems like

(22:54):
they're they're they're on a mission to do something right now.
I've talked about it on a lot of different shows
about my theory on plasma portals and all this stuff
that I actually believe as a Christian person that they
are trying to find a way to live on the surface,
to live in God's light, because I think the Sun
is God's light and it disperses them back into the ether.

(23:15):
So yeah, you know, the rumors of planetary seating and
all that stuff, I don't know about that, but I
do think that the hybridization is because of that. I
think they're trying to create a being that can and habit,
you know, that can live on the surface, because I
don't think they want to live down there anymore. And
as a matter of fact, if you're how diabolical would

(23:37):
you have to be. I mean, obviously, I think they're
fallen angels or you know, some sort of some form
of disembodied entities that are running things down there and
pulling the strings and calling the shots. But they're pretty
diabolical if they're convincing humans, hey, you got to come
live down here for a breakaway civilization, and uh, you know,
meanwhile they're trying to get up here where we are.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
So geez, yeah that it as I just stumble over
all my words there. Yeah, it's it's pretty uh fantastic
type of explanation. And I don't mean fantastic in a
good way. I think it's like, it's scary if this
is truly happening. This is scary, you know, because the

(24:18):
first step is of course possession, but you're you're sharing
the body with something else. But this hybridization is for
them to have like these empty meat suits, so to speak,
where they can take over and operate.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
And that's just one of the purposes of the facility,
by the way, and there are other purposes for it.
There's the development of biological artificial intelligence that can basically
integrate with organic tissue to produce sort of a self
repairing sentient type of being. I guess you could say,
I mean this is all this this is all coming

(24:53):
from the document I read, right. Yeah, there's also they
also do soul and consciousness transfer in this facility, which
is aimed at allowing non human entities to possess or
operate within human biological vessels, which we just talked about.
You know, they want to live in our vessel or
or live in some form of a human vessel that
they can.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
And this this is very reminiscent of kind of like
if you think about like movies, is I like we say,
it's kind of like this disclosure of sorts, or you
think it's actually predictive programming of avatar, you know, like
they are able to transfer the consciousness into into these
other beings, so that that's that's again fascinating as well.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah, and and I have an episode I'm going to
release next week for those who are listening if they
want to, if you want to check it out about
AI and how I see what they're doing with AI,
like the goal of it. And I think that we're
gathering data to help these disembodied entities learn about us,
so they can learn how we operate and how what
they're trying to learn everything about us basically to operate

(26:00):
in this world. They want to move like us, they
want to talk like us, they want to act like
that like us. And and again they're trying to create
recreate you know, these biological artificial intelligence and create organic
tissue with that can self repair and all this stuff
that they're trying to create. These uh, these super human
type of ais that you know that act organic and
look organic and all this other stuff, but are operated

(26:23):
by some form of a higher intelligence, if you will,
some form of some form of a plasma type of
intelligence or etheric intelligence. They also do electromagnetic psychological warfare
tactics that manipulate thoughts and emotions and behavior behaviors on
both individual and you know, mass scales. So you know
that it's a super interesting idea if you think about it.

(26:45):
And before I even read all this stuff again, my
gut instinct was already leading me down this path. I mean,
I talk about it all the time, And the only
reason I wanted to do an underground based episode was
because every time I said, you know, I think they're
doing hybridization underneath these bases and stuff, I would think
about it, and I would go, I really need to

(27:07):
do a deep dive on this and explain this, because
I don't know that I'm really explaining it well enough
in thirty minutes or an hour on another show or whatever,
or even just some you know, trying to fit my
two cents in whenever I have somebody on my show
and stuff like that. And that was why I was
trying to do like a solo episode, because I talk
a lot, you know, and I don't want to be

(27:27):
the one who's sort of dominated in conversation all the time.
I want, I want someone to interact with and I
don't necessarily want it to be just an interview show
where I ask questions and that's it. I want to
be participative in the conversation and add my two cents in,
because that's the only reason I started a show, to
be honest with you, I mean, I was emailing all
these people like hey, you got to check this out,
you got to and nobody would ever respond, and I

(27:49):
was like, fine, I'll just do it myself, right with myself.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yes, it's interesting, you say, because it was kind of
like myself was, you know, I wanted to interview people
I wanted to hear their stories, and it was kind
of like, well, why can't I do this? Why can't
I hear their stories myself? And that was why that
was one of the main reasons why I started the shows,
because I wanted to hear people's experiences and I wanted

(28:13):
to learn through them as well. So, you know, we're
kind of on different sides, but yet the same kind
of concept though.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah, I mean, and especially when whenever I do an
episode with you or whoever the guest is going to be,
I'll prep so much and I'll read so much, so
I'll do so much research, and I'll read so many
books and all this stuff, and I'll have a ton
of information that I want to share. And that's really
what I want to get out. What I want to
do is I want to get information out to everyone,
and I'll let people decide for themselves. It does have

(28:43):
my spin on it in my opinion, of course, but
I think, you know, people just don't know. I went
to the dentist the other day and I was after
I got done the din on hygienis, I was like,
have you ever wondered why skull always have teeth that
are perfect? And she paused for a second and she's like, yeah,

(29:04):
I do they that's pretty interesting. So that's my whole
point is I just want to plant these little seeds
of like oh and it sparks an idea and it
grows something. So talking about underground bases is you know,
just one of them of many, so but you yeah,
I do have a ton of information that I want
to share. But yeah, other other things that they do

(29:25):
at this facility, by the way, is plasma based energy
systems capable of healing, weaponization, stabilization of interdimensional rifts, if
you will. So it's a very interesting place and and story.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
When you're talking like stabilization of interdimensional rifts, you're talking
like portals, is what you're saying. Yeah, so kind of
like the mon talk, right, I think that's the Montalk
project was based on that as well. Yep, yep, and
which you would be Stranger Things if anybody has seen
Stranger Things. Montalk project was based Uh, Stranger Things was
based off the Montalk Project.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah, and we'll get into like X points and stuff
like that. X points, by the way, is just what
I call plasma portals. And like I was going down
the path of plasma portals and all this stuff before
I even learned about X points. And then when I
started reading about xpoints, I was like, Yeah, that's what
I'm talking about. What you know? This is it? I mean,
it's obviously you know, NASA and stuff that are putting

(30:19):
that stuff out, So they're not going to give you
all the information like I'm talking about, but they're essentially
calling them different names. And we'll get into that in
a minute. But yeah, man, I want to talk about
the different levels, the seven different levels of the space
because that's one of the biggest aspect aspects of the
story that these whistleblowers and all these journalists and stuff
have talked about is the different levels. So anyways, the

(30:41):
first two levels is security and administration. Now, these top
levels are controlled by human military and private contractors. Security
systems include retina scans, voice pattern recognition, electromagnetic badge encoding,
and full body biometric readers. Personal clearance is compartmentalized. Surface
level staff are often aware of deeper level activities, so

(31:03):
they don't they don't have access to any of the
other levels. Right levels three and four, they there's psychic
and metaphysical research going on there. These levels house research
into human consciousness, telepathic communication, and methods to interface human
brain waves with alien neural tech. All right, so they
do dream mapping, soul make matrix extraction, and remote viewing experiments.

(31:27):
They're also they also serve as like training grounds for
these psychic operatives basically, So there's a lot of that
going on. So for someone who is remote viewing, like
the Black Pyramid for example, they might have been you know,
crossing remote viewers with each other basically, And I think
that a lot of these grays and stuff like that
do have this ability to psychically communicate or you know,

(31:49):
what is it called telepathic community.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yeah, it kind of almost like they ut into you know,
almost like be like a watchdog. So what you're kind
of saying is to like, like, if there is a
remote viewer remote viewing that they can kind of like
cut in and like what you're doing. Is that what
you mean as well?

Speaker 4 (32:04):
With that?

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, yeah. And you know Level five, by the way,
is where the alien quarters are. That's where that contains
the housing, laboratories and operational centers specifically designed for gray
and hybrid physiology. By the way, I know, it sounds crazy.
Everything we're saying here, right, But if you're into this stuff,
you'll know that all the stuff we're talking about here

(32:27):
ties into basically everything that we ever talk about, you know,
dream manipulation, you know, dream mapping, soul matrix extraction, remote viewing.
We just did a remote viewing session the other day.
So exactly these shouldn't be new terms for people who
listen to you know, and these and.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
These like they're working on like extracting dreams, like taking
out people's information out of their dreams. Now, like this
is and this isn't a conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
This is legit.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
So I believe something was called it was called the
Morpheus before. Now it's like, I forget what it's called.
But it's a device that you actually put on and crazy.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Well, so there's a lot of by the way, whenever
I read stuff off of this is the document is
so massive that it took forever to pull out certain
points into cross reference some of this stuff. So you'll
have to bear with me with some of these names. Right,
But there are at level five still within the alien quarters,
and there's these environment environmental controls that maintain alien compatible atmospheres,

(33:29):
and this level is heavily monitored and restricted to personnel
with what something called EBE, which is extraterrestrial biological entity clearance.
So you have to have a pretty high clearance. I
mean the you know, I'm talking about things that I've
never heard. I was in the military, and I knew
top secret clearance, and I knew secret clearance, and I
knew above top secret clearance, but I didn't know, like,

(33:51):
I'm sure there are levels way beyond that. You know,
top secret clearance is just what they give dumbasses in
the military. You know, who has that, who have to
access certain you know, and all respectfully to people who
are in the military who have a top secret clearance
if you're listening to this, I'm just saying that people
in the military, the common person in the military is

(34:12):
the type of person you would trust with extra terrestrial
biological entity clearance.

Speaker 5 (34:17):
Right.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
So anyways, Level six is the level that they dubbed
the Nightmare Hall, and this is where the genetic labs
are happening, and it's dubbed the nightmare Hall due to
the horrifying nature of the experiments witnessed here. There's genetic
modification chambers and suspended tanks that contain grow test chimeras,

(34:39):
which are humans with animal features. There's clone beings with
multiple limbs, and failed hybrid prototypes. Living experiments are kept
in high security enclosures. Some whistleblowers claim the screams of
test subjects can be heard echoing through this level. So
it's pretty it would be. I would be terrified if

(34:59):
I'll walk in and seeing all the stuff. I probably
passed out do that. I went to I did a
I do web web design stuff for a living, and
I went to a pathology lab to build a website
for a pathology company. And they were like, you're okay
with like, you know, organs and stuff like that. I
was like, yeah, probably, I'm good. Let's do it. Let's
photograph some organs and whatever. And and then I saw

(35:20):
like an organ laying on the table and I almost
passed out. I didn't think I would, dude, So if
I saw something like that, I would probably pass out
immediately because I just I didn't realize that my brain
whatever my brain was like that ain't normal.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
And I'm just you know, yes, I was in the
same situation. I went into like this, like it was
this area where they dissected animals after they died. You know,
like to study them to see what they died from,
kind of like autopsies, but of animals after the fact.
And we were invited in. It was through something else,

(35:55):
but I was invited in and and you see some
of the things, and yeah, yeah, I know exactly what
you're talking about. I would like, oh, I'll be fine
with this, and I'm like almost passing out. There were yeah,
I won't go into detail, but there were some things
that I saw which were not It was like they
started with like the base the body parts, and they're
studying them, and then they went up to like the
higher you went up in the building, they went up

(36:17):
to like the cellular levels of it. But yeah, I
can understand exactly what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
All right. So Level seven cryogenic and soul storage. This
is the deepest level and it's said to contain stasis
chambers for human captives and extra terrestrial embryos. Consciousness transfer
and storage is performed here using crystalline and plasma based
containment devices. Severed body parts and biological remnants are kept

(36:45):
in fluid filled tubes for future use or cloning. So
pretty wild stuff, right.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Yes, yeah, no, thank you.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
You know, by the way, I didn't get to talk
about like the different corporations and agents that are allegedly
involved with the Dulce base. It's the DOE acts as
a front for like these energy based experimentation and underground operations.
Los Alamos contributes technical expertise CIA and NSA oversea intelligence gathering.
Delta Force units are assigned to high risk security and

(37:19):
counter containment operations. And then the corporations like I mentioned before,
like Bechel and Rand and all these other companies E. G.
And G, S a I C. Northrop Grumman, all of
these are allegedly involved with these you know, black budget
budget operations and different things that are going on with
these underground bases. But yeah, that's pretty well.

Speaker 5 (37:39):
Man.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Alien species that are involved. Let's get into that little bit,
all right. So the alien species that are involved in
these deep underground military bases, especially the one at Dulce,
is grays. Now, the grays are highly intelligent beings with
advanced surgical, neurological, and genetic knowledge. They perform most of
the invasive experimentation. They're typically short, with gray skin and

(38:04):
large black eyes. They communicate telepathically and operate with military
like precision. And emotional detachment. Then you got reptilian humanoids,
which are called reptoids. They're taller, muscular, and more physically
imposing than the grays. Reptoids are believed to have a
command hierarchy over the grays. They're highly strategic and allegedly

(38:26):
responsible for long term plans to manipulate human society and
assert control over planetary systems. Okay, then you've got hybrids.
These are biogeneic creations blending human DNA with alien strains.
There are two main types. There's hubrids, which physically and
emotionally resemble humans but carry enhance stabilities such as telepathy,

(38:49):
rapid healing, or superior intelligence. And then there's rebrids, who
are more reptilian in nature and reportedly lack individual consciousness.
They're used as guards, enforcers, or biodromes. So, I know
I mentioned the grays earlier, but you know, it looks
like there's a whole bunch of different things going on here,

(39:10):
a bunch of different like a hierarchy almost like that.
And like I said, the reptilians, the reptoids are essentially
like the enforcers are down below, and people who've been
abducted what do they say. I've seen so many documentaries
of women who've been abducted and they said that they're
taken to this place and they're having sex, sorry for
the bad language, with some form of a species, and

(39:32):
in front of them it looks like a beautiful man
or a beautiful woman. And then if they turn to
the side, it's like their face glitches and you can
see like a reptile to the side. So that's a
common thing that's reported from abductees as far as I know,
I could be wrong about that, but I've heard a lot.
I watched a lot of documentaries on it. I've read

(39:53):
a lot of different things that say exactly that.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
So it is it's extremely wild, you know, and it's
a and we've heard these stories, you know, we've heard
these stories from like I said earlier, you know, Karen
Wilkinson where she was talking about this, she talks about
stolen seed, evil harvests, you know, like they are harvesting
you know, embryos and children, you know, like baby's uh

(40:16):
fetuses from them and it is because of this they're
being impregnated, and you know, then they go win after
they've been in their body for you know, a month
or two and then they withdraw them. It's it's crazy,
it's it sounds crazy. Actually, let's say that it sounds crazy,
but this has happening. This has happened to these people.

(40:37):
They've experienced it.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Here's some more of the things that they're doing.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Then they're okay.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
They're doing bioengineering, which is they're using like this cutting
edge DNA manipulation to create entirely new life forms, all
of it for specific roles. We just mentioned some of
the hubrids and the rebrids and all this stuff, and
they're they're trying to create creatures with this programmed high
mind kind of like that, and that's allegedly how these
grays operate as well. They're creating enhanced sentinels and all

(41:03):
these multi limbed hybrid type warriors. And again they're using
like a soul uh transfer technology device that basically uses
electromagnetic resonance and plasma fields to transfer consciousness from one
vessel to another. Entities can inhabit clone bodies, prolonging their
influence indefinitely. And let's see, they create hybrid breeding programs,

(41:27):
which we talked about, and they usually abduct women who
are RH negative. The hybrid embryos are grown and synthetic
and bovine wombs and matured rapidly using hormonal hormonal accelerators
and nutrient risk rich plasma bats. So this goes to
the bovine wombs are this goes to the mutilation, the

(41:49):
cow mutilation and stuff like that. Yeah, costly going on.
It's like, why are they Why are these these cows
exanguminated perfectly, there's no blood whatsoever. Why are their reproduct
organs always missing? And things like that? And I think
this ties right into that theory that they're using these
wombs to sort of grow these hybrid embryos in But

(42:09):
you know I just mentioned I just mentioned the plasma
as well, right, they kind of put these bodies in
this plasma, this nutrient rich plasma bath, right.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
So this has a lot to do with the electromagnetism
and the energy systems, right. The entire facility runs on
this advanced electromagnetic system that enables levitation, energy shielding, neutral
interface devices, and cloaking. Okay, like that's what I was
talking about earlier. So you know, you can imagine like
a screen in a mountain. You ever seen videos of
UFOs just flying into like a mountain or a volcano

(42:41):
or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
Very common into volcanoes, extremely common into volcanos.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yeah, yeah, and I think that's what that is. It's
like a cloaking device that they can just access. To us,
it looks like a volcano, right, but to the you know,
to them, it just might be a smoke screen kind
of like when the the reptilians are trying to mate
with the human women, they have a screen over their face,
so to speak. And we kind of see that a
lot with like celebrities too, Like they their face shifts

(43:08):
then all of a sudden their eyes slip and stuff
like that.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
You're completely right, yeah, when it's like uh, Beyonce, that's
happened many times, you know.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
So these electromagnetic fields are calibrated to suppress fear, suppress memory,
and maintain biostasis, and human captives consciousness detection scanners allow
for identity verification based on frequency signature. These fields are
tightly integrated with Earth's natural magnetosphere and grid points, allowing
the base to harmonize its energetic activity with planetary frequencies.

(43:44):
I know, that's a lot of big words, right, it's yeah,
But essentially it's it's the whole system of Earth, the magnetosphere,
and how the harmonics of Earth and the harmonics of
the Sun and how they interact is what sort of
what we're talking about here. It's sort of opens when
these two collide. And I've talked about this a number
of times with Bruce Cathy. He saw that, he started

(44:05):
seeing this one like, why are they dropping bombs and
nuclear bombs at this time during the day and all
this stuff. Well, he realized that the harmonics of Earth
are lining up with the harmonics of the Sun at
that time, and it creates a bigger boom. So they
have to drop the bomb at a specific time in
order to create that bigger boom with the electromagnetic energy.
So imagine the Earth and the Sun lining up, and
then all of a sudden, there's this super electromagnetic line

(44:30):
that connects them both and it just you know, it
opens portals and all this other stuff. Right, So yeah, yeah,
So why does electromagnetism matter to the aliens? Well, it's
more valuable than gold to them. Electromagnetic energy is like
the lifeblood of alien technology. It enables interdimensional travel and

(44:52):
stabilization of portal gateways. It powers thought activated craft and
biosynthetic armor. It's used in holographic illusion and synthetic reality
simulation environments. We just talked about that obviously, And it's
harvested from Earth's magnetic grid to amplify alien psychic abilities.
And it's vital for manipulating time space curvature and maintaining

(45:14):
artificial staceis fields. Again, a lot of a lot more
big words. Yeah, it so opens portals, and yeah, it's
it's it's pretty important to them because it's it's how
they it's how they stay. Again, if you think about
what I've been saying about plasma portals, they are plasma.
They are these etheric beings that come into it, into
our existence through magnetic fields. Basically, the Sun hits the

(45:37):
Earth and creates the electromagnetic pulse, which creates alert currents.
That's alert current has this electromagnetic field, and when it
interacts with Earth's magnetic field, it creates like this, uh,
this little window. Basically, where electromagnetic energy meets it separates
it and it creates a little window and that window

(45:58):
is like a portal. And when that happens, this complex
plasma comes through and then quickly forms. That happens as
the sun goes down. But as soon as the sun
goes down, it's a small amount of time they have
to form together and then find electromagnetic energy or find
like a lay line on the geomagnetic grid. So don'lse
base is said to be built directly over major intersections

(46:20):
of Arth's lay lines, which, for those who don't know,
are basically these natural energy pathways that connect secret sites
megalithic structures in geomagnetic nodes. Scientifically, again, they're called to
Alert currents or Peterson currents, So these lay line junctions
act as these amplifiers for electromagnetic and plasma based technologies,

(46:40):
and as we all know, ancient cultures often built temple,
pyramids and observatories over these intersections for the same reason
they enhance communication with other realms. Right, So, extra terrestrials
are believed to utilize these planetary energy flows for stabilizing portals,
harvesting life force energy, and enhancing psychic reas search. The
magnetic field fluctuation along lay lines may also assist with

(47:04):
cloaking and hiding the facility from conventional detection. So but yeah,
I like to get your opinion on some of this stuff,
and do you think that that's what we're dealing with.
I know I talk about a lot. I believe it
that that's what's going on. That with electromagnetic energy is everything.
I see it as like the zipper of our reality.
It's it's the veil that we always talk about. That's

(47:25):
what I see as the veil. We're bioelectric beings, and
when we interact with electromagnetic energy, it feels like we
can be altered in some way.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
I've always felt that electromagnetic energy, per se and magnets
nonetheless are are the key to unlocking so many technologies
that we're in so many advancements, but we're just not
being allowed to see it, or we're not going there.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
You know.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
It's kind of like we're gonna go look at these others.
We're gonna go look at solar, we're gonna go look
at nuclear, but let's stay away from from this, from
the electromagnetic anomalies and everything else. But I believe there
is a key there, Like there, it can unlock so
much potential. There's so much potential, and I believe if

(48:14):
we can harness it, like I believe that was something
Tesla was tying into Nikola Tesla when he was, you know,
delivering the energy wirelessly. I believe that this was he
said in the ether. But like you said, when you
said it's the veil, you believe it's the veil. Well,
I think I think it's all in the same one
and the same.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
And like I said, I'll call the ether plasma because
it used to be called the ether. Then they changed
it in the early nineteen hundreds, Well, they took it
out of the educational system. Any talk of anything metaphysical
they took out basically, and in the late nineteen twenties
they started calling it plasma. So again it just became
more of a scientific term. You know. They were like, oh,

(48:54):
we could measure plasma and all this stuff. But you know, ether,
you can't really measure the fifth element, so it's not
really it's metaphysical in nature. So that means you can't
really measure it. You can't observe it, you can't quantify
it or anything like that. But they can't really do
that with plasma either, right, they don't really fully know
what it is. They can study it and be like, oh,

(49:15):
this is very strange. But when something is in the
plasma state, it's a soup of ion, so it's not
really anything. It's just a bunch of stuff floating around.
So they can really say all they want, but they
can't measure that kind of stuff, I guess is the
But anyways, I call them X point I mean I
call them plasma portals. They call them X points, which
are these magnetic portals basically in their locations where Earth's

(49:39):
magnetic field connects directly with the Sun's magnetic field. And
then again we just talked about that when the harmonics
of Earth line up with the harmonics of the Sun,
and it happens late in the day, like I mentioned earlier,
right late in the day, that's when you get a
lot of paranormal experiences. Always around seven eight o'clock at night,
when when the sun's grew right. That's what these things.

(50:00):
That's when you get a lot of sightings, and a
lot of stuff happens at night, and then during the
day you don't see nowhere near as many sightings. I
know you do see sightings, but I think that they
have found ways to create metals to form around these
plasma balls that they turn into these light balls and
it protects them during the day from God's light from

(50:23):
the sun. So anyways, these portals open and close, you know, unpredictably.
Like I mentioned, they only last a couple minutes, but
during that time of day they transfer highly charged plasma
and electromagnetic energy between the Earth and solar environment. Again,
that's that electromagnetic pulse that I talked about hitting the

(50:43):
Earth and creating these alert currents that come out of
volcanoes and faults and fissures and all this stuff. And
I think that bases like Dulce use these naturally occurring
X points for like interdimensional travel, energy harvesting of you know,
geomagnetic events, and they also probably enhance alien propulsion and

(51:05):
communication systems and stuff like that. You know, we talked
about like maglev earlier, right, magnetic levitation. I actually think
that that's what the energy grid is. I think that's
what lay lines are they. You know, it's like a
subway system for these things. And matter of fact, I
mentioned Bruce Kathy, that's what he talked about. He mapped
out this whole grid and he showed that they weren't

(51:25):
they weren't ever just like flying around in different circles
and all this other stuff. They were going in like
L shaped patterns basically right, they would keep you know,
doing these right angle turns and stuff like that. So
but again I think X points and you know, plasma portals,
whatever you want to call them, they are like the
nodes of that grid. That's where the stone hinge and

(51:46):
places like Avebury and all these other different standing stones
and pyramids. I think that's where all these places are, right.
It's it's a grid system, right, and I think that
our government blew up that grid system at some point
in the night teen forties. When it blew up the
grid system which they were using to travel on, it
made all the you know, the UFO's crash like Roswell

(52:08):
crashes and stuff like that. They were dropping nuclear bombs
right there in Roswell. That it was the home of
the nuclear bomb base, was the five of Night Bombardment
Group in Roswell. You know, that's how they got the
aliens of the Grays. And then since then, you know,
the National Security Act was created in nineteen forty seven,
and then all these secretive organizations basically spun up to

(52:30):
so the government could just spread the money out through
all these organizations and hide what was really going on.
So I think that every organization in the United States
knows a little bit. They don't know everything. And I
do think that there's probably organizations that know a lot
more that have deeper level access to all these this
black budget stuff.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
You know, I agree, I agree, But so much compartment
then compart them a lot. Oh my god, everything is
all separated. Sorry, Why am I having issues saying hardalization?
I don't even I've even butchered that. But yeah, thank you.
I'm good, glad, so glad that I'm an English tutor
so I can mess up those some of those specific words.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Yeah, it's late, dude, Man, it's getting super late. But yeah, man,
this plasma basically acts like a living medium. It's capable
of preserving tissue, amplifying, uh, these neural signals and stuff
like that. So again, they're using all this plasma and
in the Earth's magnetic energies to do things they it's
it's there, it's their oil, it's their gas that continue

(53:32):
that keeps them going.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
Yeah, it's the life blood for their machines.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Yeah. So so then you ask why would the US
government want to work with human entities, I mean non
human entities. And again the reason I think is because
we're getting advancements in technology and medicines and all this
other stuff, and they have agreements of authorized controlled human
abductions in return for propulsion systems, electromagnetic field tech, mind

(54:00):
controlled devices, and advanced genetic engineering tools. Again, this is
all coming from that underground word doctor that I found
online that was a compilation of all these these different things,
these different reports and whistle boarder cases and things like that.
So this this immediately came after the Roswell after math,
which I just talked about a little bit. So, following
the Roswell crash, recovered bodies and materials triggered a hidden

(54:24):
arms race in exotic technologies. Treaty like agreements such as
the Greata Treaty granted aliens underground facilities and biological access
in return for technological advancements against rival superpowers. Violations of
these agreements led to covert conflict and internal dissent amongst
human factions. Okay, So and we'll get into that in

(54:46):
a minute, because there was an alleged war that happened
in nineteen seventy nine. Yes, so there's biological ambitions. Right,
there's you know, understanding alien genetics could revolutionize medicine, which
I talked about earlier, create operatives, and allow for space adaptation. Right,
So space travel, medicine, all this stuff. By the way,

(55:06):
there's a lot of there's a lot of medicines that
have to be created in space. A lot of people
don't know that. The ISS, the International Space Station, they're
creating medicine in space, and they're doing it in this
zero gravity type environment. Basically, they're still in the atmosphere.
They haven't left Earth's atmosphere. They're still in the ionosphere.
Out there, they're hanging out, they're not doing anything, but

(55:28):
they have this ability to create different types of elements
and stuff. We've heard about element one fifteen from Bob Blazar.
That's where they that's where they create these sort of
elements and these different metals and stuff like that. So,
and they got all this information from the Roswell crashes. Right,
this is why the US government wants to work with
non human entities. Alien insight into the soul and energy

(55:50):
fields prompted black projects into astral projection, consciousness, duplication, and
remote influence electromagnetic frequencies are weaponized for control over individuals
or masses. They also want global dominance, and they won't
control over alien tech, which basically ensures military supremacy and
geopolitical leverage. Technologies may be used to colonize other planets,

(56:14):
monitor entire populations, and conduct warfare beyond conventional physics. Fear
of infiltration. Right, so, some believe that non human entities
now control portions of underground facilities, with the US acting
as junior partners or even hostages. Disinformation and deep psychological
conditioning prevent public exposure. If I'm losing, you man, let

(56:36):
me know.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
It's good. It's good, it's good.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Some people think that Earth might be like a ground
zero in a battle over this soul evolution. Right, there's
you know, energetic They for some reason, these entities, they
keep saying this kind of stuff in all this document.
I don't believe it. I just believe that they're demons
and they want to live in the light. And that's
the bottom line. It was like a bunch of fancy

(57:01):
names and psychological and all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
Let's move to the Let's move to the battle, the
nineteen seventy nine battle, because that is I think that's
something very interesting that occurred in the Dulce base.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
So basically what happened was the aliens producted too many people, right,
so the humans that were working down there, the Delta
Force guys that were working down there, were basically like,
you know, you violated the agreement. And then there was
a big battle and it was like allegedly sixty six people,
sixty six humans that were killed in the operation. And

(57:36):
since then it's believed that the non human entities is
what they call them, We call them aliens, they still
call them non human entities. They've basically taken over, taken control,
and they control things. Now, that's essentially what they think
it happened.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
So they kind of like took over the base. Now
after that, they kind of like pushed the humans out,
so there was no no control or oversight over it anymore.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Right, right, Basically that we cower to them now. And
to me, Man, I think that there's a faction of
the US government that is good and that they still
try to fight these things. But I also think that
there's a faction that has black budget money and they
are basically running the show now. So and the reason
I think that is because I've mentioned how the UFO

(58:26):
that was filmed over my parents' house. Yeah, the guy
who filmed it said that every time, every single time,
military jets would come in and chase the the UFOs off.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Okay, So but before we get too far away from this, though,
can we I'd like to go back to this this
firefight though? So who reported this firefight? Where did this
come from?

Speaker 1 (58:48):
So this happened this I believe was one of the
the engineers that I mentioned earlier, Schneider, Yes, I believe
it was. It was the geologists. Yes, about he basically
spoke about the the this war, this is called the
Dulce War.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Anyways, right after he spoke about that, he died under
suspicious circumstances by the way, so that should tell you
a lot.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
He talked about the advanced alien weaponry and all this
stuff that they were using, and how all these Delta
Force guys died in this in this event. So yeah, man,
it's a super interesting because again this is something that
all this stuff is happening underground that we don't know
about right.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
And with it, and it's very interesting. You know, like
these bases, they they exist, we know they exist. We
have proof that they exist, but the specific ones that
we're really talking about, you know, we're diving deep into
this information. You know, it's it's speculation. There are whistleblowers,
like you're saying, who are coming forward and then they're

(59:49):
dying mysterious death, you know, which seems to be the
mo for many things that we you know a lot
of whistleblowers or things like that that get into deep
So it's it's really really interesting, like you know, and
so we're on the line that you know, they're conducting
these experiments, they're working with off I don't want to

(01:00:11):
say off world entities. I don't like that because I
actually believe that like you said, you know, you you
think they're they're demons. They could be you know, leftovers
from a breakaway civilization like you were saying from Lemeria
in the Mount Shasta. I believe it was. Yeah, we're
we're possibly dealing with and like you said, you know,
there's the grays, the reptoids, the the.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Hybrids and the hybrids and rebrids and hybrids and low
Breads and the slice Breads, and uh, well, I think
I think there's a battle of light versus darkness. Literally,
I mean, that's why think about that's why they have
underground bases. That's why they have underground submergible bases, right
they have. There's alleged bases underneath the ocean as well,

(01:00:57):
and that's why they have it is to hide from
God's light. And I literally think that that's what it is.
It's light versus darkness. They they cannot come into the light.
That's why they stay down there. Otherwise they would be
up here, you know, and when they do.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
You know, but to night, I yeah, I'm I'm on
both sides. I'm like, yes, I do believe that they're
they're hiding down there, But I also believe that other
comment you said, like the little Mirians were, you know,
they built this as a bunker to protect themselves from
a cataclysmic event, which we do know, you know, twelve
thousand years ago, the Younger dry Ass occurred. It was

(01:01:32):
to protect them from that. You know, if you got
yourself a nice fortress and you're not the not the
majority species anymore, perhaps you do want to stay hidden
and out of the way.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Yeah, and again I know that this is a lot
of information to take in. This is probably all over
the place as well, but it was really hard to
condense literally like five hundred pages of stuff into this
little bit of a summary. But you know, essentially, like
I said, I do think that they're our government, or
at least a faction of our government. If you think about, like,

(01:02:06):
have you ever watched the show Skinwalker Ranch? Do you
ever watch it?

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Or have you watched it?

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
So every time they do experiments, there's like an unmarked
black Hawk helicopter. Always have a tough time saying that
black Hawk helicopter that shows up. And I think that
that's what that is. Man, I think that they are
operating and by the way, that's a mesa as well.
And every time they do experiments, they show these tunnels
that go deep underground and all this stuff. And when

(01:02:32):
they start digging into deep then they start getting phone
calls from people senators. And this is all allegedly at
Skinwalker Ranch, you know. I mean, I don't know how
much of it's a show, but you can see a
lot of this stuff happening. And I talk a lot
about how where I was born and raised is on
the thirty three parallel and where my mom lives now,
it used to be in my grandma's house, and they

(01:02:52):
have since since they've lived there, they've had experiences with
ferries and UFOs and all this other stuff. My mom
has seen, you know, unmarked helicopters. My mom and dad
they've had an unmarked helicopters just hover over their yard
and stare at them and just all kinds of different things.
Weird stuff all the time, you know, we will. I
remember as a kid sitting on the front porch and

(01:03:14):
then seeing like a ton of vehicles, like unmarked vehicles
and ATVs and stuff come out of nowhere, and then
they would all just go down. We have It's hard
to really explain because you guys haven't never seen it,
but there's like these giant fields behind our house, and
there's a dirt road. There's like a road that cuts
between where we used to live and where my grandma

(01:03:35):
used to live, so we we grew up living right
beside her, and there was a roadbout right between it.
There was cars one time that came on our property
that drove through that road and went back into these
fields after something and my dad, my dad used to
be a deputy sheriff. He called the sheriff and he's like,
what is going on sheriff had no idea. Same with
the black the black Hawk, the black Hawk helicopter. Yeah,

(01:03:57):
I don't want to say the other word by the Yeah,
exactly black Hawk helicopter. And you know, my dad called
the sheriff's department then too. I was like, Hey, what
is this? Is there a are you looking for drugs
or something? They're like, no, we don't know what you're
talking about. We don't have a helicopters out there right now.
And so it's always stuff like that in that area. Man,
I think that there's something going on there in that region,

(01:04:19):
and there's constantly some sort of like government response or
quick reaction for us type of response to sort of
get rid of these.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Things, and you feel like this this kind of all,
in my opinion, this all kind of originates from like
nineteen fifty four with President Eisenhower when he allegedly signed
the Pact, you know, and that's when, you know, I
think that's where Dulce what was constructed was because of

(01:04:48):
this this treaty that he signed, you know, and you know,
and then that would also get us into the Majestic twelve,
which is I would love to do a show in
the future about the Majestic twelve. So I think that's
very fascinating as well.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Yeah, I mean this once you know that, you know,
it opens the door to all kinds of different places.
I mean, I mentioned, you know, Mount Shasta, but there's
there's also what's the name of that place, man, and
I might have a tough time remember it now, but
there's a place in Tiha Choppi I believe it's called

(01:05:24):
in California, and there's allegedly a lot of you know,
there's doorways with without doors, there's walls embedded the energy sensors,
there's advanced magnetic security systems. And again that document that
I went through, man, it has all of this stuff
listed in it, and it's like entry ways into it
that people have went and researched these different caverns and

(01:05:47):
cave systems where you can access this underground network. And
in the future, I'm going to be doing some episodes
on underground bunkers, like Breakaway Civilization type stuff. And you know,
I'm also going to be doing some stuff on you know,
there's like forests and stuff. There's like a hollow earth.
There really is like a hollow earth.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
Type of things in China, they have like this huge yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Yeah, yeah, I don't remember. Yeah, it was a cave
that was like this. It literally looks like something from
Jewels Verns, you know, Jurassic Park or.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Something like that. Yeah, And it has its own ecosystem
and everything. You know, there's clouds as well, clouds form. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Yeah. So there's this whole underground world that we don't
know about. And you know, I just did an episode
with Cosmos University and we talked a lot about this
kind of stuff. That there's a lot of stuff buried
beneath that we don't know about. And that's just that's
stuff that might be three hundred feet deep from the
Great Flood. So there's a lot going on underneath the
earth that we don't know about man. And I think
that if we were ever allowed to dig, and that's

(01:06:51):
another one of the things with Skinwalker Ranch, there's always,
you know, something bad always happens when they start to dig.
There's like radiation poisoning and all these other different crazy
things that go on when they start to dig. And
I think that there's a lot of information and a
lot of answers below the surface that they don't want
us to know about, including like I said, these dumbs

(01:07:12):
and these all these other this far the the there's
anti diluvian civilization that existed before the flood too. They
don't want us to know all the ancient technologies that
existed before then.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
So and and that is legit. I there there was
an anti multiple anti well, antidiluvian, and you know it.
There there has been at least well if we go
by the Aztecs. I think we discussed this. You know,
five five, we're on the fifth sun, meaning that there
has been four other cataclysmic events that happened before us.

(01:07:44):
So there is I think many civilizations hit hit a
height and then we're wiped out and we just kind
of started over a great reset we started, you know
the great reset. Oh wow, Well, I think there has
been some resets already. So I you know, I want
to say thanks, thanks Brad for coming out and dropping
all this, because that's a lot of information.

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
But I'm standing at the girl. I don't know where
to los control, trying not to see my soul. I'm
stancing at the girl.

Speaker 6 (01:08:38):
I don't know where to ill news and control, trying
not to see any for me in the right direction.
God send me your blesser. I'm so tired of stress,
music turns, obsession, ubsession.

Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
I got a long way to go to ease my fan.
My clothes soaking with peat to swearing and the.

Speaker 7 (01:09:01):
Ring going ha it center, habits and course, and I
can change all my mistakes.

Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
But y'all be half done.

Speaker 7 (01:09:07):
The foll y'all and reads the things that I saw
Louis and Nat from the outer hall. But now I
can stop my own fall. I gotta stand tall, overcome
a scene open down to ther ro sank the church.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
Here, so did little de little Well, I'm standing at
the cross.

Speaker 5 (01:09:28):
I don't know when to our news and controul, trying
not to see my soul.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
I'm standing at the cross, I don't know when our
news and control, trying not just set up God.

Speaker 7 (01:09:45):
Sitting back thinking about the men a rips.

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
Now, I don't know who's a friend of me. These
people that got they can to me, well, that's still
a miss to rip.

Speaker 6 (01:09:55):
A man's ever wants me to lose my my relig jump.

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
But I won't stop what out to fight. I won't
give and won't give.

Speaker 7 (01:10:06):
And I'm going to sit down right again pray, And
that's the Lord above the help and change my way
today the world's stilling with green.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
Be you moveing to the bath for by rection to
the break, you can love me. Hey, I'm in a
don't break. I'm at the cross room, trying to find
my way. Can your health be? Oh? O, can your
health be?

Speaker 5 (01:10:26):
But I'm standing at the cross I don't know which
my news a control.

Speaker 4 (01:10:34):
Trying not to see my soul. I'm standing at the
cross I don't know which our news a control trying
not to sell?

Speaker 8 (01:10:46):
So got me?

Speaker 4 (01:10:48):
Got me o, sun side Joe heads and take my head,
Show me the wigs, show me the wig the little
please gout?

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Got me?

Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
Won't beside side? I joy to take money, joining the
way When I standing at.

Speaker 5 (01:11:07):
The girl for, I don't know where to our nigs
A control, trying not to see my soul.

Speaker 4 (01:11:17):
I'm standing at the girl's home. I don't know where
to our nibs A control trying not just self so.
But I'm standing at the girls for. I don't know
where to our nigs.

Speaker 5 (01:11:32):
A control, trying not to see my soul. I'm standing
at the girls phone.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
I don't know where to go. Our niga's a control.

Speaker 8 (01:11:45):
Trying not just self sole to the

Speaker 4 (01:12:05):
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