Tartarus Titans: Sedona Vortex, Hoover Dam, Portals, Fallen Angels, Resets, The Caduceus, Hermes, George Washington, & Zeus w/ JTFollowsJC

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(01:27):
In this episode, JT and I talked about everything from
energy vortices, to fallen angel statues in Sedona, Arizona and
the Hoover Dam, to ancient civilizations in their Old World technologies,
to Tartarus and the imprisonment of fallen angels, and the
possibility that George Washington is actually Zeus Now. JT is
very well known for his research into esoteric and biblical knowledge,

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which he then turns into some pretty awesome reels on Instagram,
YouTube and TikTok. He has a huge, massive following over there,
so what you get from his reels is exactly what
you can expect. In this episode, he definitely brought the
heat and I'm very grateful that he found the time
to join me on the show today. I really enjoyed
the conversation and I'm really hoping you guys are going
to enjoy it too. So without further delay, let's go

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in and hear what JT has to say. Right now,
you can went out to like Arizona, Right You went
to Sodona? Yeah, for like a family vacation, I'm assuming,
or was it just like a random trip?

Speaker 4 (02:26):
No.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
I had the opportunity to go on do some in
person in studio podcasts out there. I have a friend
who lives in Phoenix, and so I did two podcasts
and then so we flew out Monday, recorded on Tuesday,
had another podcast on Wednesday, and then Thursday I had
a free day before I flew back on Friday. So
I went to Sedona in twenty twenty three November, this

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basically this time last two years ago, and I got
married up on the top of Cathedral Rock. And this
is kind of before I started to really research the
Little Season too much. I was kind of aware of it,
but I was just sort of to be fascinated with
all the just the kind of the Western landscape that
looks like a post apocalyptic where it's just everything looks
like it's been nuked or melted by the wrath of God.

(03:14):
There's these weird rock formation. So I have a certain
affinity for those places just because it's, you know, I'm
an outdoors person. I like to be outside and get
out and see stuff with mown eyes, and so going
to Sedona is it's a beautiful place. And it's a
very kind of spiritually mysterious place too. A lot of

(03:34):
new Agy Vibes and Vtexas and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
It's really interesting. I went out to Wyoming with my family, dude,
and we just driving through Wyoming. I was like, this
place looks like it was underwater for a very, very,
very long time. It looks like like if you dried
up the ocean right now, That's what Wyoming looks like.
It's all these little seaweed looking, you know, bushes and
things like that, and all the mountains have all these

(04:00):
you know, striations running through them as if water had
been flowing there for a long time or you know,
instead been moving through it, and things like that. And yeah,
all of the Arizona area I want to get out there.
I haven't been there yet, but from what I see
in pictures, man looks very similar, like as if something
happened a long time ago that we don't really know,

(04:23):
you don't have a clue about. And I believe that
the powers that be really do know something. They know
kind of what happened there. What is your theory on
what they might know. Do you think that there's been
a history of cataclysms that have reset the world that
they are trying to maybe cover up, or let's just

(04:44):
say every two hundred three hundred years, there's a new cataclysm.
If the governments of the world knew that, do you
think that they would tell that, they would hold it
back from public information to avoid panic and all this
other stuff.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
Absolutely, I think that that's the thing is that what's
really interesting to me about kind of the Western cities,
in the origins of these cities or when they were
quote unquote founded. These cities have such a short timeline
around them, where the story about how Lewis and Clark
went across the Mississippi in eighteen oh three to go

(05:19):
explore the New Louisiana territory. So like the history we're
taught is like that in the early eighteen hundreds, the
western part of America was basically unknown. I mean there
wasn't there was no people there, but I mean as
far as regular Europeans who went across to find stuff.
It's like we're told that Lewis and Clark went across
the Mississippi with Sekajawea so they could meet with the

(05:43):
tribes and kind of tell them all the stuff, explore
this new land. But when you see like the cities
that were founded afterwards, they're founded in like the early
eighteen fifties, sometimes earlier than that, and before you see
like the earliest pictures of like places like San Francisco
in eighteen seven, there's a panoramic shot where it shows
the whole city and it's just laid out completely. There's

(06:04):
not one bit of there's not one bit of construction happening.
They got Old World cathedrals, Greco Roman architecture, and this
city was supposedly not even discovered by the Spanish until
seventeen seventy six and eighteen forty eight, it only in
one thousand people. So then the famous story about the
forty nine ers going over there searching for gold. This

(06:25):
is when this city starts to boom. But the timeline
is still I mean, it's so short to think that
they could go from miners and early settlers to a
full grown city like we know today. It seems impossible.
But what I found really interesting about that place too
is that not only do they have Old World architecture,

(06:46):
but they all have underground sections of these cities. And
I think that when you explore kind of more conspiratorial
topics like the Denver Airport, and it talks about all
these tunnels. And I remember when I first started looking
to the Denver Airport, there was rumors that it had
tunnels that went all the way to Colorado Springs and Norad,
like the Shining Mountain complex, and I remember just like

(07:09):
kind of theorizing along time, and I was like, what
if they built the Denver Airport in this place that
was inconvenient for people from Denver because it was way
more inconvenient from the other the old airport, it's like
twenty miles outside the city. What if they built that
because the tunnels were already kind of there. What if
there was some underground infrastructure already there. And that makes
me think of that show that space on the video

(07:31):
game Fallout, where they have these underground bunkers and these
people rode out this apocalypse under there, and some people.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Didn't even know that.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
That, you know, it was inhabitable on the on this
on the on the terrestrial part of the Earth anymore. Afterwards,
and I started to think, I was like, what if
that story is based on something it's true. What if
there was an apocalypse somewhere out there? And maybe if
it wasn't even that long ago, what if it was
within the last two hundred years. Because yeah, you see

(08:01):
old maps of like you're mentioning how things look like
they're underwater, there's old maps that show California as an island,
and like Death Valley is below sea level. I think
that there's there's likely I mean, at least biblically there's been,
or if you believe in a future reset, we do
know there was one in the days of Noah, and

(08:24):
then I believe that what people perceive as the mud flood,
that was something that was more recent than that.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, and there was and I heard one about a plasma,
some sort of a plasma event too. There was a
there was a just a I saw a picture on
Instagram not too long ago, and I believe it was
from out of Turkey and there was like four layers
of architecture on one building. So yeah, it just seems
like there's something that always happens every couple hundred years
or every five hundred years. And that's what I was
asking about, I guess, is that if the governments knew that,

(08:54):
do you think that they would keep it from us
to you know, prevent us from panicking about something that
might be coming. It does seem like, I mean, I
heard Catherine Austin Fitz talking about breakaway civilizations and the
government's funneling money to create these underground cities essentially for
the rich and powerful. It's as if they're preparing for

(09:15):
something major to happen. Matter of fact, I remember seeing
a bunch of things online as well. This was back
in like twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, a lot of rich
and powerful people will we're calling this thing something that's coming,
the big event, and they don't really know, you know,
nobody really knows what they mean. But it all stems

(09:36):
from this guy who went as a photographer or something
and he went to some meeting and everybody, all these
rich and powerful people were sitting around this table, and
they just kept saying the big event, you know, in
preparation for the big event. And so this guy was
a journalist as well, obviously because he's a photographer, that
he reported on it, and then it kind of spawned

(09:58):
these stories. And then if you look at like CEOs buying,
you know, resigning from their companies, buying boats and going
to living on their boats and things like that, or
buying bunkers in New Zealand, it seems like they might
know that there's something else coming here soon. And you know,
we don't really know what that is, but it seems
like the powers that be due, I guess, is what

(10:19):
I'm trying to say.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
Well, I mean you could look at certain resets, like
the stuff where you have like the the fires in
Maui and the fires in Los Angeles, where it's not
a full reset of all of civilization. But I mean
in these certain areas, it did seem like people kind
of had some foreknowledge at these events, and you know,
of course you have. Like at the same time, I
remember they had that movie, was it the what was

(10:42):
the end of the World movie?

Speaker 1 (10:43):
With Obama?

Speaker 5 (10:44):
The Obamas did for Netflix that was Leave the World
Behind Leave the World Behind You. Yeah, And so that
was about that. They had this estate, they had this
underground bunker complex in it, and right around the same
time there were stories about guys like Mark Zuckerberg and
others preparing these these doomsday shelters. It's like, why are

(11:06):
they doing that? Like why are they all doing it
around the same time. I mean, I gues said. It's
kind of my conclusion though, that there is underground infrastructure
around this country, and I think everybody knows that he's
researches at all. But the real question is how vast
is it? I mean, because you hear rumors that there's
these electromagnetic trains that go from coast to coast and

(11:28):
things like that. Is that possible? I mean, it's certainly possible.
I mean, is it likely? I mean, but that's what
I'm saying, Like, but this seems like an older thing
that there's all these old cities all have underground sections
of them. Every major American city has old underground sections
of them, and a lot of the oldest Greco Roman

(11:50):
buildings they have tunnels between the buildings, which again makes
not a lot of sense when you think about that.
These would have been more primitive people to prepare all
this stuff under the ground. So maybe it's there they're
kind of retrofitting them. Maybe they're making them more modern.
Like even the story recently came out about, you know,

(12:12):
the east wing of the White House and Trump was
making a ballroom.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
But if you look at.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
What it costs compared to what it would really cost
to build a ballroom, people have started to wonder if
this is about them working on what's under the East
wing of the White House and not so much them
building this ballroom that doesn't really seem like it has
a lot of practical purpose, Like there's not enough places
to dance in the White House, so they have the
demo this whole wing. It's probably because they are, well,

(12:40):
they could be getting ready for something that's going to happen.
And I don't know how much you've looked into kind
of the old world stuff as far as the idea
of like the free energy and maybe the electro magnetism
in the connection with the ether. I think it's kind
of funny to think about, how what if they're preparing
this thing from the underground of the White House at

(13:01):
the same time, Trump has got plans for this new
Peace Arch or something like that that's going into DC.
And if you've ever seen that pretty interesting documentary. I
don't know how factual it is, but the Lost History
of Flat Earth, it was connecting these arches as being
gigantic horseshoe magnets that were powering things like little power stations.

(13:25):
So what if that was what if the two are connected?

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Well, I definitely believe they're still working with electromagnetic energy.
I mean even there was a video I saw recently
too about the magnetic levitation train in Japan and how
it goes like four hundred miles an hour, and somebody
was trying to take a picture of it and it
was just like a blink of an eye. It was
like you couldn't even hardly see it. So I do
think that there are magnetic levitation tunnels board beneath the

(13:53):
Earth that people were traveling on. I don't know if
I don't know what that would be like in running
in to or going underneath water bodies of water like
lakes and stuff like that. I don't even know how
you would do all that, but I would assume they
have ways if they are doing stuff like that. But yeah, man,
back in like eighteen forty two or something like that,
there was only like twenty people who you know, were

(14:15):
on the census in San Francisco, and then by eighteen
fifty only ten thousand people, So like roughly twenty thousand,
let's say ten twenty thousand people built that entire city
in just seven years. Meanwhile, in my hometown right here,
they built a road. It took over a year just
to build one little section of the road.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
If anybody has seen modern roadwork done, I mean, I
think a lot of it's probably like a money laundering
scheme because they do take so long and certain people
get the contracts on them. But yeah, I think that's
the thing that when you start to research the old world,
what takes a lot of the focus is just the buildings,
and you see the cookie timelines on some of these
buildings that were built in like one year or sometimes

(14:56):
even less, and that seems unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
But I do think that with a kind of a
broader look at.

Speaker 5 (15:02):
It, it's the infrastructure that would really take the time
to build and the central planning that would go and
be involved in taking a city that's just a plot
of land and turning into a grid system that when
you see from the aerial shots, this is well thought out.
This is not just settler's just putting up whatever kind

(15:24):
of shock they can to sleep at when they go
to work in the mines in the daytime. This is
something that's definitely had a lot of planning, just like
the port systems and the canal systems, where it looks
like the ground was terraformed to.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Support all a full.

Speaker 5 (15:44):
City and that makes no sense based on the timelines
were given.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
I never really gave much thought to the canals, but yeah,
that makes sense that. Actually I started looking into lakes
and I'm like, how did people dig these giant lakes
over many, many miles. I know that people are hard
working and they're smart and all that stuff. I'm not
taking anything away from humans whatsoever, right, but it just
seems like very improbable that they could build a canal

(16:11):
that's three hundred and ninety something miles, you know, and
have all these different you know, duct systems and all
this other stuff that they have to go along with
these canals, and they can just build them in like
ten years. I believe, like the Erie Canal was built
in like ten years or something nine years or something
like that. And it's like, that's a pretty big canal
to be just built in just a short amount amount

(16:33):
of time. So yeah, it does seem like it would
be more of a discovered canal rather than something that
humans built here recently in the last one hundred years
or fifty years or whatever it was.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
Right, So the Erie Canal is three hundred and fifty
one miles and it was the construction started in eighteen
twenty five. This is before they had dynamite, so they'd
been using black powder, and it's going through mountains. It's
also got many lock systems to go into it, and yeah,
this is before power tools or anything like that, not

(17:05):
yet before dynamite. And when you really think about the
engineering that goes into something like that, it's mind boggling again,
because you were talking about road work, which seems actually
like a simple process. When you actually watch them build
the roads, this is not simple at all. And this
is talking about like literally like when they're going out

(17:26):
west in the early eighteen hundreds. This is what we're
told is really wild country to be doing all that
kind of stuff. I mean, it seems, it seems incredible.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
There's a great book by guy named Danny Davis called
The History of Human Recess that people should really check
out if you want to kind of a comprehensive overview
of what we're talking about here. You can really dig
deep in some of that stuff. But yeah, I would
go back and forth when I used to live in Tampa,
I would drive back and forth to Charleston, South Carolina,
which is therea I'm from, and to build one hundred

(18:00):
miles worth of road to extend the lanes in Georgia.
It took them like fifteen years to do that, and
they had construction crews working day and night on it, literally,
and they had machines and all the you know, back
hoes and all the stuff that you need to do that.
And yet somehow we built an entire city, many cities,

(18:22):
many magnificent architectural buildings like in the world's fair and
stuff like that. All of that within just a couple
of years. And then just yeah, like you said, the
planning alone, you know, looking at cartography, maps and all
this other stuff would be a task by itself that
would take probably many years just to look at and
try to figure out. So the fact that they could

(18:43):
just throw it up with no would you know, no
electrical drills or dynamite or tractors or whatever. They didn't
have any of that, and yet somehow they were building
these architectural marvels, you know, just doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 5 (18:58):
Well, it's kind of like similar to the Roman aqueducts,
because that's that's kind of a similar story. And I
think that's the really interesting thing. And I think when
you start to look in our past and we find
it impossible to think that early settlers of America built
Greco Roman buildings, but we all widely accept that the
Romans did it thousands of years before. And I think

(19:22):
that they had to have technology too. I was actually
just looking into something was kind of funny and like
the kind of like the little season maybe Old World
research was that Michaelangelo, he was tasked with building this
new Basilica. I forgot exactly the city he was going
to do it in, but he was taking plans from
the Parthenon in Rome, which was supposedly built I think

(19:43):
around Rue twenty five ady, and he said that the
dome was built by angels and not men. That was
a quote from him because he was saying, like, this
is not something men could do. And so the Parthenon
has the biggest unsupported concrete dome in the world still today.
So the Romans, almost two thousand years ago, we're told

(20:07):
built this, and we just think that it's fine. They
did it. I mean, we know it's there, we know
they're credited with building it, but we have no problem
wrapping our mind around that. So I think that it's
likely that there was technology back then in the same
way that we wonder how are the Pyramids built?

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Because I don't.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Believe they just got enough slaves to do it.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
You have to be you have to be very smart,
you have to have lots of planning to go into it.
So if we don't believe that story, why do we
believe that the Romans, when they still would have had
similar technology. How did they do the things that they did?
And in many cases they're not as big, or the
stones are not as huge, but and yet the buildings

(20:51):
are so ornate and just impressive that I believe that
they had technology then too. I think the Romans were
way more advanced than.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
We give them credit for. Yeah, that's pretty obvious because
I've worked construction before as well. You have as well.
I've seen people have to carry giant columns and these
concrete walls and things like that. For these manufacturing plants,
like in distributing centers and stuff like that that you see,

(21:19):
or like rubber plants and stuff. They have to put
those big walls, those big columns up and everything, and
it takes a crane, it takes a bunch of trucks
moving these things along the interstate and things like that. Yeah,
there's no way that they could do so. Some of
these stones, by the way, at the Pyramids were eighty tons,
which is one hundred and seventy six thousand pounds. That's
insane to think that when just moving. My brothers and

(21:43):
I had had to try to put my dad's tombstone
on his grave, or maybe it was my grandma's, I
can't remember. This was my grandma's and we were trying
to put it down. That was three of us, and
then my mom was kind of there, kind of you know,
guiding us and helping us out, and that was six
hundred pounds, and I thought that we were going to
all die, Like it felt like it felt like the
tombstone was going to land on top of us. You know,

(22:06):
I can't imagine trying to move one hundred and seventy
six thousand pounds. There's just no way that that happened.
That just makes me think that think that they had
fallen angel help for sure, or maybe some kind of
an angel interaction like you said where you say Michelangelo
was saying.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
That, that's what Michaelangels said. So this is not me,
this is him saying that. I mean, people have wondered.
And if you watch that show, like Ancient Ancient Aliens,
they are always crediting these gods from heaven, which the
theorists on that show always point to aliens. But the
point is that we all recognize that there's a problem
with the tools. Did they say that they found which

(22:40):
are copper tools? They're not as hard as the stones
are cutting, so that makes no sense. So yeah, did
they have some kind of levitation technology? Was it just giants?
Was it some kind of supernatural thing that we don't
know about. I think that all the above are possibilities.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah. I asked a.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Girl named Tanya Harris or Tanya Harris, she was on
my show. She's credited for doing this simatic study in churches,
and I asked her if she thought that sound it
was built with sound some of these cathedrals, like as
if there was a pile of sand there and somehow
sound coupled with electromagnetic energy would build that up. And

(23:22):
she didn't really know. She didn't have a really good
answer for it, but she said there is some similarities
in terms of when she would record the sound through
her device, it would put these pictures on a Petrie dish,
I mean these vibrations on a Petrie dish, and it
kind of matched the rose windows and things like that
of the cathedrals. Yeah, which is very interesting.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
Yeah, that's been a theory in this community, is that
what these buildings look like are sound made into architecture,
because the repeating patterns in some of these cathedrals are
pretty impossible to imagine somebody hand carving them with the
consistent see that they have.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
And yeah, when you when you.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
Tie in the cimatic patterns to the rose windows in
this geometry, that's literally a frequency and a vibrational frequency
that you can find by testing, and it repeats a
pattern that's in the window. Now, that's nobody believes in
coincidences like that, So to me, it makes it seem like, yeah,
that that these people were not less primitive than we are.

(24:27):
They had they had a technology and it's and it's
likely a different technology than we see today, because in
our minds we know that this doesn't make sense based
on the tools we have today.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Lately, I've been thinking a lot about how the United
States is sort of run by Luciferians, or people who
you know, believe in Lucifer as their God. I actually
think that when we see money, it says on the
on the money, on our on our currency, that says
in God we trust. I actually think that they're talking

(24:59):
about the devil or Satan or Lucifer or helll or
whatever names they give to him. But I don't think
it's the guys. I don't think it's our Christian God
like we've been led to believe. Do you think that
the United States used to be some sort of a
Greek society that worship a pantheon of gods or something
like that.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
I think that there's likely a lot of there's a
lot of room for lots of things to be true,
I said. I started to tie the two together as
far as like the Greco Roman architecture and the fact
that I believe that if the Romans were more advanced
than we're taught, then it's likely that they could have
easily sail to across the Ocean Blue before fourteen ninety two.

(25:40):
So if you think about the evidence of like the
megalithic structures, if you can build a building like that,
you could certainly build a ship that would be seaworthy
to go across the land. If they could do it
in the times of Columbus, well then I think they
could have done it a long time ago. And you
see Greco Roman architecture on basically every continent. Maybe not
in Arctica, but again we don't really know it's there,

(26:01):
so we have no idea. But you have them in Australia, India, China, Japan,
northern Europe, you have it in Northern Asia, you have
in Northern Africa, Southern Africa, all through the Americas, there's
Greco Roman structures everywhere all the way up to Canada,
and to me, it does seem like the same way

(26:22):
that kind of the ancient alien theorists would say, well,
all these pyramids must represent a connected society, and I
think that that's what this is showing, because I think
it's very simplistic, and I think it's a very naive
belief to think that all this is just done in
a Renaissance style because they had some kind of affinity
for Roman Roman architecture. I mean, if you really believe,

(26:44):
like the story, we're taught that the majority of the
founding fathers would have been Christians. Now I know if
you look further into that most of them were actually
Deiss and they were not Christian, but they all proclaimed
Christian values. So the idea to make this new country
emulate Rome, I think it's a little strange idea, and
I think it just seems like when you're told that

(27:04):
in school, it seems plausible enough, but then when you
really think about it, like when you go to DC,
you're like, this place is what you'd imagine Rome to
look like in its heyday, So why would they do that? Well,
I do think that, yeah, there's that kabalistic idea that yeah,
they do believe in these pantheon of gods. They believe
in the Onunaki, whatever you want to call them. But
whatever culture, they had a pantheon that could have been

(27:27):
from the Greeks, So the Romans, the Egyptians, the Phoenicians,
they all had similar ideas about these divine beings who
rolled over and had different kind of authorities in heaven.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
They did certain they had certain tasks that they did.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
So yeah, I think that likely a lot of the
architecture could have been could have been old, and it
could have been when they quote unquote discovered this new
world and they founded these cities. Maybe they did find
the they founded the architecture like literally, and then this
is all about this idea of this kind of esoteric
knowledge and that's why you see all the symbols and everything.

(28:02):
But I've literally, I've literally just been talking about this
on my podcast, almost like revisiting that idea of like
these sacred symbols that we give credit to the devil
and for the Luciferians is like, Okay, so if you
see the pentagram or the Fibonaci pattern or the swastika. Now,
when you do a lot of research, these symbols are

(28:23):
very old. So the real question is like what do
they mean. I think likely all they really mean is
it's a secret knowledge. It's a secret. But it's like
this pattern that's in everything. I believe probably did come
down from God first and then the angels. The watchers
would have had knowledge of these symbols. And so if

(28:43):
God created all the things we see with this kind
of sacred geometry in you know, in his voice, the
vibrational patterns and the things he did, so you can
see this repeating in nature. Well, if the watchers eventually
told men about them, then they start to put them
into the architecture the things they built because they do

(29:05):
work because it was established by Creator. So I'm starting
to wonder if some of these things were hijacked and later,
you know, it's kind of like the Freemasons are given
credit for building all these buildings, but I think that
the Freemason's only built the lie. They are just saying
I've got a secret that you don't know, and here's
the symbol. So now when you see a pentagram, everyone

(29:25):
say that's the devil. That's the symbol.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Of the devil.

Speaker 5 (29:28):
But what if it was literally just the devil co
opting something that is God's fingerprint, you know. It is
like the Fibonacci pattern. It's all based on the geometry
that God used to create everything we see.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yeah, no, that sounds exactly right, because they the devil
can't create, He can only corrupt, and they can only
mimic and things like that. And that's what the Fallen
Angels I believe we're teaching was the forbidden knowledge. And
I actually think that they were teaching this forbidden knowledge
at a lot of these portal locations are the world.
You went to Sedona, Like I said, did you actually
go out to the Sedona Vortex to see that?

Speaker 5 (30:06):
Well, when I went two years ago, we hiked a
lot of the kind of the famous rock formations, and yeah,
it's pretty crazy. When you go there, you'll get like
a trail map and then they'll just be these vortices
just pointed out. I'll go, you go here, and here's
this vortex and it sounds really cooky and new age,
but it's it's like literally on the maps, like here's
where you go for this vortex. And one of the

(30:28):
tailtale signs when you go to there, they'll have like
these juniper trees and then so you'll see some of
them they'll just be growing straight up. But then when
you go to like a place where they said the
vortex is, they literally are grown like all twisted up
into a spiral formation. And so yeah, there's there's a
lot of things there. And of course if you go there,
there's tons of like new age crystal shops and weird

(30:50):
things out there. The whole like I said, the whole
part of the that part of Arizona. You have petrified trees,
which I think is another really weird thing that that
these ancient trees now resemble like rainbow crystal on their insides.
And then you have all those geodes too, where you
have these rocks, you crack them open and they have

(31:12):
a million different colors of different crystals growing inside them.
I think there's something It could be like a lay
line thing, it could be like a spiritual thing like
a and maybe not even just spiritual, maybe it is
like electro magnetic issue, like a physical thing that is
happening there, because again it manifests the trees to grow

(31:33):
in very odd ways. So yeah, there's a lot there Yeah,
have you ever been to the Hoover Dam?

Speaker 1 (31:40):
I did. I did. It was funny.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
One of my first big tiktoks was about the Hoover
Dam and I was talking about the angels on there
and the very creepy plaque that said they died to
make the desert bloom. And you got the guy up
here and knowing the history or at least we're told
about the Hoover Dam, like one hundred men lost their
lives building this dam, and there's something there's.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Something very eerie about it.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
And if you go there, there's tons of security to
get in and you're like, what is this place? It's
kind of weird that it's like what are they? I mean,
I don't know what they're trying to prevent you from
bringing into the little museum that's at the Hoover Dam,
but I mean, I mean, it's there's a lot of
really weird things about there. So I finally went there, yeah,

(32:26):
about two years ago, and so I checked it out
and saw all the stuff, and yeah, it's pretty wild.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
If you go to USGS, they have a map. They
have like an interactive map. It's called the Nevada Composite
Magnetic anomaly map, and it's if you look in where
if you look where the Hoover Dam is, it's like
the most gravitational and magnetic anomaly place in Nevada. And
you see all these hot spots, and I think that

(32:52):
that's what those are are those you mentioned the vortex,
the vortices, That's what they are. They're little like portal locations.
I think think that in many ways were intentionally destroyed.
If you think about like the Hoover Dam, it produces
a lot of energy, and so that's actually why I
think it was built. I think it was built on

(33:13):
top of these these energy vortices to harness that energy.
Because people who have been to Lake Thomas, which Lake
Thomas used to it flooded the I'm sorry Lake Mead,
It flooded Saint Thomas, Yeah right, yeah, Saint Thomas would
have all these weird things coming in and out of
the water, and they found all these different structures that
was underneath it that was flooded. And I think that

(33:36):
a lot of I think, for one, I think that
God flooded the earth to cover up these portal locations
so these entities couldn't come through. Because this is where
I believe that the fallen angels were giving forbidden knowledge
was they were coming in through these portal locations. Every
portal location around the world has symbology. They have these
little petroglyphs and things like that looks like a spiral,

(34:00):
and yeah, exactly, they have names that are like associated
with angels and wings and stuff like that. The Sedona
statue that you saw of the Caduces has a fallen
angel right with the snake strapped around it.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
Well, it sure looks like one. I mean, it's it
looks like it's got the crown like the Statue of Liberty.
It's a woman and it's coming out of like what
seems to be like either a globe or an egg. Yeah,
and then it has the Cadusius the snake pattern it
spirals around it, and then it's got the gu's got
like the wings and it's got its arms stretched out
and yeah. So that was something I saw a long

(34:34):
time ago back there when we first visited. And so
when we went back, I was like, I got to
make a video here because I remember it made the
connection that it says Cadusius right across the statue, but
then under that it's got a Bible verse and it's
quoting Psalm ninety one, and it says that for he
will command as angels concerning you to guard you are
something along that was a kind of paraphrase the verse.

(34:57):
And if you, if you kind of understand the Bible
a little bit, you're like, that's an important verse, not
just because it's in Psalmn ninety one, because that's literally
what the devil quotes Jesus when he takes him up
to the high place to give him all the kingdoms,
and he tells Jesus he quotes that verse, and he says,
you could throw yourself off this mountain and you won't
die because the angels will catch you.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
And then Jesus says, you know, we don't tempt the
Lord that God.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
But I was like, what are the chances that they
put that verse on there, that the devil quotes to
Jesus without it meaning kind of what I'm saying it means,
because again, this is a very demonic looking statue. It
doesn't look like it represents one of God's angels. It
looks like is this one of these kind of inversions
where the devil's often associated with Venus? So if you

(35:45):
think about, like the Statue of Liberty is females, we're told,
but it kind of resembles the face of Apollo or
the face of Lucifer. Is this kind of an inversion
where it's like the devil in this current iteration or
his current avatar is more of a female character.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
I think it looks like it probably is.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yeah, So when you see those serpents, this is where
the idea of serpents comes from, is snakelike energy, because
it snakes along lay lines and things like that. And
this is why a lot of people have built their
churches on top of this stuff, is because they used
to think that they were interacting with families with familiar spirits.

(36:24):
Because and that's why a lot of Native Americans still tie,
you know, articles of clothing to trees that you're talking about,
those trees that are all spiraling up and everything. They'll
give offerings to those trees and all these other things,
and they'll give because they're trying to give offerings to
these what I think is fallen angels. And I think again,
a long time ago people figure this out, and I

(36:45):
actually think that this is what the Crusades were about.
That they were going around and destroying these places. They
were destroying these portal locations, and they were covering up
places like go Beckley Teppe with different types of dirt.
And I just believe that they were just destroying all
these places because they didn't won't any more of these
fallen angels coming in and interacting with humans, because that's

(37:05):
why God flooded the earth initially. And so when you
see those snakes, which, by the way, the Caduces is
associated with Hermes, the Greek god Hermes, and that's that's
that's the original caduces, the staff with two snakes and
the wings. The other one is the rod of Alscliphius.
I can't ever say the name of that, but that's

(37:26):
basically the single snake on a staff, right, that's the
that's the actual medical Caduces. But everybody confuses it with
the two snakes. Matter of fact, the army was the
one who started that. The Army Medical Corps was the
one that started using the caduces. They say on accident,
but I don't think.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
It was on accident, and I believe that actually goes
back even earlier. I think that goes back to the
staff that Moses put the bronze serpent on so in
that way that the Israelites were getting bit by poisonous
snakes and they were told to look up on the
symbol and be healed. And so I do think that
the I think that they all kind of tie together.
And I think that that kind of goes back to

(38:06):
that cabalistic idea where the Kabalists believed that Moses was
not actually leading the Israelites out of Egypt to go
to the Promised Land. He was leading on them on
a spiritual journey to ascend to kind of the knowledge
of the Egyptians, which of course is completely contrary to
what the Bible teaches us, but that's what they believe.

(38:26):
And so yeah, that interestingly enough, in the times of Hezekiah,
they destroying the bronze serpent because the Israelites were worshiping it.
They turned it into an idol, so Mercury the guy.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
This is the equivalent to Hermes in Roman, you know,
the pantheon of gods for Romans or whatever. I don't
even know what you would call that. I guess I
guess they did serve a similar pantheon for the I thinks.

Speaker 5 (38:51):
And Romans were very similar people and I think that's
there's no coincidence that their gods are almost identical, right
Herman the name sometimes they have slight very as of
their names, but yeah, they're they're definitely the Everybody I
think widely accepts that those are the same gods.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Yeah, yeah, and they in Hermes and Mercury, both in
both pantheons, are both cultures thought of Hermes and Mercury
as the the god of like trade and thieves and
travelers and tricksters and things like that. So again, if
you think about these fallen angels are coming to these locations,

(39:26):
these where these energies are coming out of and they're
giving all this forbidden, forbidden knowledge. But they're tricking people
into thinking, like you said, with the layouts of our
cities in the United States, they're they're giving them this
information as if they are the gods. Who are they?
They are so close to God that they were the
ones who came up with this idea is because they

(39:49):
all knew the you know, the ancient geometry and all
this other stuff. So they're going to they're going to
give people this knowledge. They're going to give people knowledge
about levitation and metals and all this other stuff, But
there has to be some sort of a sacrifice that
they do, and that's what you were missing a while
to go with like the Hoover Dam. It almost seems
like that those men that lost their lives were the sacrifice,

(40:09):
or maybe even the town of Saint Thomas was the
sacrifice for getting that information of creating that energy from
the Hoover Dam.

Speaker 5 (40:19):
Well, it certainly seems like it. Again, the way that
the description on that memorial plaque is not something that
people would do today. If you're building a building and
people lost their lives building it, you wouldn't put a
plaque up there and say that they lost their lives.
So this building could do X, Y or z. It's
would We don't think about it like that. We would

(40:40):
say this is a tragedy that men lost their lives.
We could have built this building without them dying. So
the way it's written it does. It's written like it's
been a sacrifice for this this higher power. Because even
if you look at the symbol, like the symbology on
the on the plaque, it's like this guy's holding his
arms up like this and there's like wheaked over top

(41:01):
of him. And if you think about it. The guardians
what they're called, the angels that are on that memorial,
they're sitting on these black cubes. Well, it just so
happens that I want to say that this is the
creepiest thing about kind of when I researched this, the
very first guy who lost his life there was JG.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Tierney.

Speaker 5 (41:21):
I believe he was the first guy who died supposedly
when they were constructing the dam, where they were surveying
the dam, and then I want to say, I can't
remember his son's name, but it was another Tyranny died
like thirteen twelve or thirteen years to the day, died
on the exact same day. He was the last guy
who died at the Hoover Damp. And they both died.

(41:41):
I want to say, it was like might have been
December twentieth or something. So it had been right in Saturnalia,
like right in the middle of its Saturnalia was like
a six day feast or seven day celebration. And they
both died like right in the middle of Saturnalia. So
the symbol of wheat is a symbol of Saturn. So
he was a god of agriculture. So the idea that

(42:03):
you made, that you had to sacrifice this thing to
make the desert bloom. That gives you vibes of like bail,
like sacrificing to bail for the harvest.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Yeah, it definitely seems like they're still doing this kind
of stuff, like right in front of our eyes. This
is where I think a lot of just personally, this
is where I think a lot of missing people go
and all this other stuff. I think they're actually being
sacrificed in some way. There's some unfortunately I know that
kind of gets deep with this stuff, but that's kind
of where my mind goes with this, is there's people

(42:35):
who still worship Moloch and Ball and all these fallen
angels or Satan, whatever you want to call them. I
don't even know what you've got. I guess you'd just
call them fallen angels. They still worship them, they still
make sacrifices, whether that's in the form of chickens or
animals or sheep or whatever. They're still doing it. They
didn't stop. It still is going on. So did you
ever see that movie The Cabin in the Woods? No, dude,

(42:58):
but everybody keeps mentioning that movie.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yeah, Well, I'll spoil it real quick.

Speaker 5 (43:02):
You should watch it though, But yeah, in that movie,
it's kind of a satirical horror movie where these kids
are going to go to like teenagers or college aged
kids are going to see this cabin, but it's like
kind of preordained by these men who are in this bunker.
And so what's all about is like you have these well,

(43:22):
you had like the Harlot, you had the kind of
the jock character, you had the I don't know, like
the maybe the jester character. He was like a stoner,
and then you had the virgin. And then so I
think one of them I actually there's five of them,
and one of them was like like the scholar, and
so each one of them kind of had to choose
the way that they were going to die. And of

(43:44):
course these people don't know that, but it was all
about that every time one of them died, the blood
kind of came down. They opened up some valve and
it created like kind of this over the sigil of
them and it went down into the earth. And the
idea was that these governments had this was like this
was one government. Our government was doing this in a

(44:05):
certain place. But they had in Japan and they had
different other countries where they were all engaging in this ritual,
and if the ritual did not work, then these titans
that were under the earth were going to come up
and eventually destroy all of humanity. So they were continuing
this process of doing these sacrifices and they make reference to, oh,

(44:26):
it used to be simpler time. Back in the day,
we'd just thrown a virgin in a volcano, but now
we got to do it in this way. But it
was like, it was interesting there that a character was
telling them to turn back. It was like they didn't know,
but they had chances to not do what they were
going to do, and they had to make the decision
to pick their person, pick the entity that was going

(44:48):
to kill them. So it was like a it was
kind of like that idea of like the revelation of
the method, the karmic retribution, where they're they're telling you,
but they're not really telling. They're still tricking people to
make their own decisions. And then so when they're sacrificed it,
they're kind of like a quote unquote got like a
willing sacrifice, but they weren't.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
I wanted to read this to you man, and by
the way, I'll check that out. I actually have that
on my list of things to watch, believe it or not, because,
like I said, Paul stops it and I think he
mentioned it to me as well. My neighbor has actually
mentioned it to me as well. He watched it. He
also mentioned the movie called Midnight Meat Train, which I
started watching but I never got to finish this so
sounds interesting, yeah, but I wanted to. I wanted to

(45:31):
mention what was we're talking about least fallen angels. You
know Merlin, who was a wizard when the word wizard
comes from the word wise. Merlin actually in a lot
of folklore, he's depicted as a figure that was born
to a demon and a human woman and he so
he has this lineage of he's basically a ne folm

(45:53):
essentially yeah pretty much. Yeah. So, and he also had
a staff that was that had a serpent on it,
so this is where and he was giving knowledge to
King Arthur. So it was a This is again that
goes back to my idea of what I was saying
about the I think that this is where the entities
were coming out of and this actually what I'm going
to be talking about on tinfoil hat is I'm going
to kind of explain that because I actually think that

(46:16):
they are in this Abyss and you mentioned that they are,
you know, these Titans that are going to come up
from somewhere. Have you ever heard of the word tartarus?

Speaker 6 (46:26):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (46:26):
Yeah, Well, I want to say in one Peter he
mentions that there's angels that are chained up, and the
Greek word he uses is Tartarus. So I think that's
really interesting is that the idea that that the watchers
were put into Tartarus, and so that's the same belief

(46:47):
that the Greeks and the Romans would have had about
where the Titans went. So that to me that makes
sense that like this this story is is one story
is that the Greeks and the Romans might have called him,
but Peter is tying them together with the angels from
the days of Noah and Tartarus.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
If you think about Tartaria, because we're talking about this
old World civilization, everybody would call it Tartary or Tartaria, right,
and all of a sudden it disappeared from the maps
in the eighteenth nineteenth century, things like that, And so
Tartarus is actually, according to like Greek myths, is a
deity that was one of the first born from chaos.

(47:32):
So Tartarus was seen as the opposite of the sky
and he was he formed this cosmic shell with the
Earth that was to enclose the cosmos essentially, And it's
actually a place too. So there's a Tartarus deity, and
there's a Tartaris place, and then that Tartarus place is
like it is beyond the Abyss, beyond the underworld. It's

(47:55):
in the Abyss. It's like the lowest level of hell.

Speaker 5 (47:57):
Yeah, they say, like Tartars would be as high as
Heaven is. Tartarus is the opposite. It's all the way.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Yeah, and this is where like the fallen angels would
be imprisoned, which is very interesting.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Well, it's interesting.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
So in the Greek mythology and Roman mythologies, so you
have either Hades or Pluto, and so those are your
deities who are over the underworld. But Hades is a
entity in Hades is also a place, and I believe
that's actually biblical too, because it says in Revelation twenty
that Hades and.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Death are thrown into the Lake of Fire.

Speaker 5 (48:36):
So if Hades was just a place, you wouldn't need
to throw a place into the lake of fire when
are kind of maybe the church dog would believe that
Hades is the place where the lake of fire is.
But Hades is a place, and Hades is also an entity.
And if you read some of the extra biblical texts,
like the Gospel of Nicodemus or the Acts of Pilot,

(48:56):
there's this discourse between Hades and the Devil after Jesus
is crucified, like Hades is upset that the devil killed
this innocent man because now he's going to have dominion
over them down there. So eventually Jesus comes down there.
But yeah, Haities is a real entity. Death is a
real entity, and they're just more than just concepts and places.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Yeah, And there's a lot of proof in the Bible too.
And so is funny, man, because I was when I
was talking to Brian the other day from Demon Erasers,
he mentioned that he thinks that revelation already happened. I
kind of do too, man.

Speaker 5 (49:28):
Yeah, that's where I'm at, that's where you're at it.
I would say that not one percent of it. I
believe that, let's just say, ninety percent of it has
been like I believe that I believe that belief that
we're likely in Satan's little seas, And it kind of
makes the most sense to me because we're in a
place where it's really just all deception right now, because
I don't think it's as clear as black and white now.

(49:49):
Now we're kind of in a very confusing time about
Like again, we're asking questions about our history, which I
think that during the Biblical times, I don't think that
they had all these questions.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
I think that they knew a lot of these things.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
I agree, they probably didn't have the wild, the widespread
ability to corrupt people and to corrupt textbooks and to
corrupt you know, media and internets and things like that
like we have. So they were more of a realist
society and they saw what was going on around them.
But yeah, in the Bible, man it mentions a lot
of melting and stuff like that of the earth. So

(50:23):
that's why that's what we wanted to read like Isaiah
thirty four and Psalms one forty seven and all this
other stuff. It's God talking about basically melting the earth, melting, Uh,
you know he in for example, it says he sendeth
out his word and melteth them. He causes his causeth,
his wind to blow in the waters to flow, and

(50:44):
he's basically slaining them because of the corruption that's on Earth.
And this is is kind of what I was saying
about the Fallen Angels. I actually think that we just
ignored the electromagnetic energy place. You know, all the electromagnetic
energy they eather and all the stuff that you and
I are talking about today, we don't really put that
into We don't connect those two together. And that's kind

(51:05):
of what I'm going to be trying to do, like
I said tomorrow, is try to connect these two places,
because I actually think that that darkest place that they
could possibly go is, like I believe it is Jude.
There's a there's a Bible First and Jude where it
talks about this as well. They're wandering stars and they
are basically beyond the abyss. They're in the total darkness.

Speaker 5 (51:26):
Yeah, and the gloomy, gloomy darkness and chains awaiting judgment.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Yeah. And I actually think that that darkness is the
inverse of us. So we're material, we're madd and I
think that they are dark matter, they're antimatter because antimatter
and dark matter, according to science, annihilates each other. Right,
this is what I'm just saying about being born out
of chaos. They annihilate each other or not, they were
annihilating each other, but somehow matter gained one more particle

(51:55):
and continued on. But nobody knows what happened to the
anti matter. And this is where you get the idea
for dark matter. Day, I saw a video, did they
about dark matter?

Speaker 5 (52:04):
Yeah, they're looking for dark matter ATCERN because it's like this,
it's like this thing.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
This is a theory, it's a concept. It kind of explains.

Speaker 5 (52:11):
It kind of fills in all the holes in their
theory of gravity and things like that, because it doesn't
really make sense without this mysterious substance that fills in
you fills in their gaps.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Yeah, and so I think that that mass. I think
that mass, you know, because matter is anything that has
mass and takes up space. And I actually think that
mass is is that dark energy that kind of creates
it helps create matter, It kind of helps create material,
which is us. And so I believe that they exist
in this dark energy world, that they exist in the

(52:43):
upside down, and they essentially are coming through these portal locations.
These little these portal locations are like slips in the
electrical and magnetic fields. And because there's a there's electrical field,
there's electrical current that are coming out of it, and
whenever it interacts with the Earth's magnetic field, it creates

(53:04):
this little separation and that's where they come through. But
they actually come through, and I know this is kind
of a stretch for a lot of people, but they
actually initiate through noble gases and then they seep out
as noble gases, and then they meander along the Earth,
they hit these portals, and then they interact with the

(53:25):
plasma that's in the air, and then they come through
those plasmas in the form of orbs and balls and
all this ball landing and all this other stuff. So
I know, this is kind of a stretch out. Again,
I've explained this on a couple of other podcasts before,
but it really makes a lot of sense if you
think about it, because noble gases are trapped in this magnetite.

(53:47):
There's like, if you think about magnetite, where's magnetite always at.
It's always at fault lines and volcanoes and all this
other stuff, and all throughout that whole region of the
Southwest where you were down in Sedona, all along for
and all you know, the Easter Islands and all this place,
there's heavy magnetic anomalies there from volcanic activities, fault lines

(54:08):
and stuff like that, and every one of them has magnetite,
and that magnetite is encased in iron, and at certain
times of the day that iron because the Earth is
a magnet and the Sun is a magnet. And when
you when you drag two permanent magnets across each other,
it creates an electrical current, and it to me, it

(54:31):
unlocks that iron, and that magnetite seeps out, and that
magnetite opens and then all the noble gases seep out
and then those things come out through. So I think
that the little season could be a daily thing that
happens when the sun comes up and the sun goes down,
basically when the Sun interacts with the Earth every single day.

(54:52):
And this is actually you could see a lot of
paranormal things happen at dusk and dawn essentially. But then
whenever I saw your vid about dark matter day, I
started thinking, like, man, dark matter, I mean, basically, what
is the Sam Haynes Sam Wayne Sawwyn. It's funny spelt funny. Well,

(55:12):
even Catholics celebrate All Saints Day, All Soul's Day on
October thirty first, and this starts the dark half of
this of the year. So why wouldn't the little season
be the dark half of the year, right?

Speaker 5 (55:27):
You mean, as far as like a cyclical thing, I mean,
I believe it's a literal thing, because I believe that
if in Revelation twenty one thousand years is a little
literal thousand years, we get into kind of the timeline
anomalies where we don't believe that if Jesus came back
in the first century, I don't believe the first century
was two thousand years ago.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
I think it was probably closer to thirteen hundred years ago.

Speaker 5 (55:46):
So we could probably be within maybe two hundred and
fifty years ish from when the thousand years ended now.
But that's a lot of interesting theories you got. We
were talking about on my podcast with Brian about the
idea that what if a lot of this is a
vibrational thing too, as far as like the entities like,
so we as human beings vibrate at a certain level,

(56:08):
So we're kind of like in the middle, this middle frequency,
and then you have like the low vibe, which is
like the upside down. This is the demonic realm, So
if you see stranger things, it's a parallel version of
this place. So these beings are here, but we can't
always see them, and that's why people still can't interact
with demonic entities without seeing them and be fixated on

(56:32):
them or being tormented by them. And then likely then
you have a higher vibrational frequency. The likely is the
heavenly things, the good things, like the you get prophecies
and dreams of things that will actually come true versus
this other thing. So we kind of have like this
vibrational tug of war between us, which we can't see
either of them. But these entities are here on this

(56:55):
terrestrial plane, but we can't always see them, and of
course they can move in a different way because of
course if they're at a different frequency, then they're not
constrained by the same kind of things that would constrain us.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Also, as you.

Speaker 5 (57:08):
Said that that the Bible indicates that these planets are
not planets like what NASA shows us, that they are
wandering stars, And so I thought It was really interesting
when you think about the concept of these planets that
are supposed to gas giants. So what is gas if
not kind of a spirit. It's like this, it's like
this essence but you can't see it, but it's there.

(57:31):
And so what I found interesting is that what we're
told is the Sun is made up of hydrogen helium
and it's got an iron core. And we're told that
the Sun has is a star, right, but if you
actually look at what they say planets like j Jupiter
and Saturn and like Neptune, I think also Uranus and

(57:51):
maybe a few other ones, that they're made up of
the exact same things we're told. So they have an
iron core and they're made up of hydrogen helium gases.
So what if that's kind of the idea of like, yeah,
that is a that's an angel or at least in
some kind of form or fashion, And that's what the

(58:12):
celestial objects do when they move around the ferment. It
does have effects as far as like the energy, the
vibrational feelings that we get and like the oh, Saturn's
in retrogrades, so I'm or like, you know, don't feel
like a certain way.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Mars is doing this.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
So, like, I think that those things sound far out
there and they sound new agy, but I think that, yeah,
they do have an effect on us spiritually at least.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Yeah, And I don't understand. I know a lot of
people say new age. I really don't even know. I
kind of get an idea of what that means now,
But I just think that that's an easy way for
people a lot of times to say, let's stop talking
about it. Right, It's like when you dismiss it them, Yeah,
to dismiss it because when you look at stars, they're
made up of hydrogen and helium. Like you said, right, Well,

(59:00):
helium is a noble gas, and this is what is
in the oceans. This is where you get underwater submergible,
submersible objects. They're in volcano you know. Noble gases are
in volcanoes. Noble gases are in the atmosphere, the ionosphere,
and the ionosphere to me is the firmament, and.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
The silosphere could be the ether too.

Speaker 5 (59:19):
It could be this, yeah, this part of our heavens
that is fluctuating with so much energy. And yeah, and
that makes sense in the Old World research that if
they could tap into this ionosphere, this ether they could
draw out power through their antiquit sect on these buildings.
And yeah, when they had symbols of Hermes or some

(59:41):
kind of an angel holding like a lightning bolt, it's like,
is that them saying that they are harnessing this spiritual
cosmic power to bring it down to power their their cities.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Well that's what Jesus said, right, he saved satan fall
like lightning from heaven.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
But yeah, all the very often I believe in Avatar
for Satanist is the storm gods.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
So he's the prince of the power.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Of the air, right, I mean the air is filled
with fobal gases, filled with power and energy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
So if they can harness this and this is who
they're you know.

Speaker 5 (01:00:16):
Yeah, that's That's another thing I want to say in
that that plaque of the Hoover Dam, that there's a
lightning bolt and there's a cloud over the man.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
And Zeus has a lightning bolt in his hand, right
right when I saw that that statue or picture, I've
seen pictures of the statue. I believe it's in the
Smithsonian now, but they move the statue of George Washington
with the toga. Do you think that like George Washington
might have been one of these pantheon, one of these
princes of the provinces of this region or something like that,

(01:00:47):
or maybe like a maybe one of these pantheona of
the gods. Maybe he's actually Zeus or somebody like that.

Speaker 5 (01:00:54):
We have definitely kicked that idea around, because, yeah, there's
very famous statues to George Washington where he's depicted exactly
like SEUs in a throne, in a toga. Even I
went to the State Capitol building in Raleigh, North Carolina,
and I walked in there, of course, massive Greco Roman building,
and you walk in and you're like, who's this? And
I was, and literally, I mean I I researched a

(01:01:16):
lot of history, but I looked at this statue. I
was like, who the heck is that? And I read
on the plaque it's this Roman but his name under
the area is George Washington. I was like, that's really bizarre.
I mean, because what we're told is this building was
built I want to say, in the eighteen twenty ish range,
and supposed it gets it burned down or something, but
this statue was supposedly created around the same time. So

(01:01:40):
like in the eighteen twenties, so this would have only
been about twenty years after George Washington supposedly had died.
I think that's really odd. I think it would be
like if we depicted John F. Kennedy as a Roman
right now. I think people would say that's weird, like
why are we doing that? Like that doesn't make any
sense to us? So why didn't makes sense to depict

(01:02:01):
George Washington as a Roman? Back then people would have
known him then, you know, say, like he literally wasn't
that It wasn't that long after he died. So if
you go to the Capitol Building in the rotunda, you
look up and they have the apotheosis at George Washington,
where George Washington is sitting in the place where Zeus

(01:02:22):
would be in this pantheon of gods.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
That's strange. So we have had to rustle with this
idea of that.

Speaker 5 (01:02:30):
Okay, so if any of our theories have any merit,
which they could be completely off base, I'll just be honest.
But if these cities were founded, and this is going
back to a further tradition of this place, this place
that we call America, well, who are these men who
are edified as deities very similar in the George in

(01:02:52):
the Lincoln Memorial. He's depicted massive, right, He's huge in there.
He's likely a statue of problem. He's about fifteen foot tall,
maybe nine foot tall if you if you stood up,
that's strange. It's a very idolaterous thing at the very least.
And if you actually look at the plaque behind him,
it said I think it says in this temple like

(01:03:14):
the memory of you know, Abraham Lincoln or something. But
it doesn't even say this memorial. It says this temple.
It says that you guys can look that up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Yeah, I mean it looks like a dork style Greek
dork style temple. The columns and everything looks like one
of these pantheons from ancient Greece. And matter of fact,
all these buildings look like that. The US Capitol Building
looks like it could be Greco Roman or some kind
of Greek or whatever building. And then you get the
statue on the top, which is like a woman wearing
a toga, you know, with the thirteen whatever it is

(01:03:46):
on her crown on her head. The Treasury Building looks
like that as well. There's all kind of weird things
in DC. Man, this doesn't make any sense. So yeah,
we had them here in town, dude, Yeah, they're I.

Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
Mean, they're they're literally everywhere. So that's the question is that,
if we have any merit to our theories, could these
men that are now said to be presidents maybe there's
something older and maybe it's something bigger than the world
we're taught and so yeah, could George Washington either been

(01:04:19):
a like maybe maybe the stories we're told about him
are true. But those ideas about how the Scottish Rite
Freemasonry Freemasons do this ritual of the raising of Osiris
every time a president is inaugurated, like the idea that
they're summoning this spirit of Osiris to Endwell, this man

(01:04:41):
this vessel and now he walks in as a man
before this ceremony and he leaves a god I mean,
So that's the mean. So the question is like, so,
why would if George Washington was some devout Christian, why
would they make this edifice to him? That's an obelisk
that nothing can be taller in DC than that, and

(01:05:02):
that is an a symbol to Osiris. So is it
a situation where like these guys were literally gods or
were they vessels for the old gods? Kind of like
that idea that even the modern Freemason rituals where they
I'm I'm not executing, sure what degree you go to,
but then they lay down in a coffin, right, and

(01:05:23):
you think about like they do like the raising of
Osiris ceremony. So they die to themselves and then they
are born again as the initiated. I think that to
the highest levels, the highest degrees. Maybe that's a literal
like ritual where they are given over themselves their vessels
to this spirit.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Oh, I definitely believe that because all of these fallen
angels they were in these the Nephlin spirits. I believe
that the fallen angels were actually are still in prison,
you know. But I think the Nephilm spirits are the
ones that are inhabiting all the bodies. And I think
that they are the ones that are, you know, because
they were men of renown. They were powerful, they were
kings or princes or whatever. And I think that when

(01:06:09):
they die, that's what they want to do. They want
to inhabit these bodies and continue that power. And that's
why you have people who are you know, when they
get possessed with demons, they do terrible things, you know.
They they rape, and they kill, and they do all
this other stuff. That's because I think that those their
vessels are being used by the demonic dark matter, the

(01:06:31):
dark material, those forces to continue doing those kinds of
things that they used to do whenever they had bodies
here on Earth.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:06:41):
Well, it's kind of like that whole meme of the
black Goo, right, you're talking about dark Matter. You thinking
about the story of Venom. The Venom is this dark
blob and then he gained symbiosis with Eddie Brock and
he becomes this. Of course, now he originally in the
comic books, he was just a villain, but now he's

(01:07:02):
kind of this anti hero where he has all these
great strings he's got. He's smart, even though he's completely
just bloodthirst he wants to bite heads off things. I
think that idea of that black goos it's everywhere where.
I think that's symbolic of this this entity that possesses

(01:07:23):
these people. That's why you see all the celebrities often
in their music videos and the movies that this black
goo kind of takes them over and then they go
on to their you know, they go on their world
tours and then they become Taylor Swift or you know
any you know, even like justin Timberlake and people like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
That have done that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
You know, Billie Eilish, Doja Cat.

Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
They're all showing this stuff with this black goo, and
it's like it continues to come up again and again.
Like the movie Prometheus, it's about the black goo, and
eventually it's this alien It comes from this aliens, these
engineers who were the creators of you and I.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
I saw a Jay Z album cover and he was
wearing a big cross necklace. And this was like in
the mid nineties whenever he first started that. Now I
believe he wears one of those giant Baphamet looking necklaces.
I could be wrong, but I don't think he's, uh,
he's for the light anymore. If he, if he ever was,
I don't know that he you know, so well, listen, man,

(01:08:25):
I've kept going here long enough. It's been about an
hour and a half. We we kind of talked before
the show started. It's been a great conversation. I didn't
mean to meander my thoughts on this and from you,
but I do like to kind of get my ideas
in there whenever I can, because you know, that's why
I started a podcast, was to kind of get my
ideas in my opinions across. But I don't I don't

(01:08:48):
ever mean to take over the time from the from
the guests, because you guys have such great opinion as
you and Brian and all y'all, Paul and everybody I've
had on I just like to feel like I'm included
in the conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
I appreciate your input of me.

Speaker 5 (01:09:02):
It gives me something to think about because I know
that when you kind of just typically on my podcast,
it's kind of meet Brian and got my buddy Aarin,
and we I get different perspectives from them, but I mean,
I've talked to them so much. I do enjoy having
alternative perspectives because I do think that helps us get
closer to the truth, because if you don't, if youre

(01:09:23):
is in some echo chamber and all you're doing is
bounce around your own ideas and everyone's saying, yeah, yeah,
that makes sense, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
It's good to have somebody else to say what about this?

Speaker 5 (01:09:31):
And I think, yeah, the more we kind of do
this and have these conversations, I think the closer we're
going to get to some real truth.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Yeah, but I think it's also important that you have
an open mind with a lot of things. Like I'm
not very dogmatic with I'm a Christian obviously, but I
don't I don't beat people over the head with withever
they have different opinions and ideas, Like I think that
there are there are ways that what we have to
say kind of overlaps with a lot of different They
might overlap with astrology a little bit, it might overlap

(01:10:01):
with people who use crystals and stuff like that, like
maybe they just need some guidance and pushing them in
the right direction and letting them know that maybe you're
talking to an entity, a bad entity. Because that's how
I started off. Whenever I first went on like the confessionals,
Like I said, I kind of got beat up over
the fact that I said, when people go to church,

(01:10:23):
they get the Holy Spirit, and I'm like, well, maybe
that's not always a good thing that you're channeling whenever
you go into a church, And I kind of got
beat up over that. But my experience taught me otherwise,
because when I was like fourteen, I went in there
and the preacher starts, you know, kind of priming the
congregation for the Holy Spirit. I've didn't go to a
church like this growing up. I went to a Baptist church.

(01:10:45):
So going to one of these places is like a
Pentecostal church. Yeah, yeah, Pentecostal church. And once everybody started
getting the Holy Spirit, I'm like, Okay, this is definitely odd.
But every time I've ever seen it, and I've been
to four or five different churches, I've had ex girlfriends
and best friends that went to these types of churches.
So I've always gone to those kinds of churches just
with them, and I've seen it four or five different

(01:11:05):
times whenever people get the Holy Spirit. So I've had
enough experience with it to see that there are there
are good things that are happening, and then there are
also bad things. Like I've seen people look like they
are literally demonically possessed, flipping around like a fish.

Speaker 7 (01:11:19):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:11:19):
Yeah, that's I want to say that, that's like this
that kindalini spirit, the laughing spirit, and just the very
bizarre and natures. Because if you if you think about
like just the fruits of the spirit, they're not it's
not confusion it's not chaos. It's peace, joy, love, patience, goodness, happiness, gladness,
it's all those, it's all the good things that that

(01:11:41):
what what you kind of a picture as like the
person of Christ.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
He was not acting bizarre, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:11:48):
So I do think that, yeah, when you go into
certain churches and they turn the music up to certain
place and they start to kind of yeah, they're priming people,
And yeah, I think that people are opening themselves up
a mostly probably to emotion, and so that their emotional
feels they believe is the Holy Spirit. But again, the

(01:12:09):
Holy Spirit leads you to like goodness and understanding and
patience and love, and then when people are coming in there,
I do also think that the Holy Spirit can act
in ways that we don't understand. So I'm always kind
of cautious about that. I know that you didn't have
bad intention saying that, but I do know that when
you have people all speaking in tongues, all doing stuff,

(01:12:31):
I mean again, Paul says, don't do that, you know.
He says that if somebody speaks in tongues, let there
be interpreter, because the Body of Christ doesn't really get
anything out of it when everybody's babbling and nobody knows
what's going on, and the person who's going in there
is not used to that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
That actually happened to me.

Speaker 7 (01:12:48):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
I went up during it was a revival, put my
hand up and as I'm standing there, the preachers talking
to me and my friend Chase, and we never had
the Holy Spirit or anything like this, but he's in
tongues to us and everything, and then all of a sudden,
something starts to take over my body. I could literally
feel it. It was like a vibrational like I'm moving.
And we both looked at each other like whoa if.

(01:13:09):
We pulled away and we went and sat down. And
he still talks about it to this day because that
was his church. He's seen this his whole life, but
he never experienced it, and he still talks about it.
He's like, I asked him, I say, you remember that day?
He goes, dude, do I remember it? He's like, this
is the first. You never forget the found thing that
ever had, that ever happened, because you got kids that
are like six years old. These are like little redneck
kids who go hunting and stuff like that. They don't

(01:13:30):
they barely speak English, you know, respectfully and they're going
in there and they're speaking in different languages and stuff
like that. And I've had to pick up my ex
girlfriend's mom off the floor one time because she was
having the Holy you know, had the Holy Spirit allegedly,
and she was like sweating profusely, and then her eyes
looked like there was something else in there. I don't
know how to describe that, and so you can't. Then
I'm trying to tell my wife about this kind of

(01:13:51):
stuff before. You can't really explain it until you experienced it.
Then you kind of you know, like something else is
here because you can sense something else in the that
maybe's not right.

Speaker 5 (01:14:01):
So, well, there's a lot of there's a lot of
the most famous Pentecostal preachers who were slaying people in
the spirit quote unquote, where they're knocking them down and
doing all this stuff, and you find out these guys
have so much sin in their lives they end up
stepping down with scandals and.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (01:14:17):
So if this is the guy who's facilitating this act
of God, it's like, well, don't you have to maybe
recognize that if this guy doesn't have the fruits of
the spirit, are these counterfeit gifts that he's using.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
I think that.

Speaker 5 (01:14:32):
I think it's like, it's good to be what of
the Jesus tells us I'm sending you amongst the wolves
to be as wives, as serpents and innocent as doves.
I don't want to be skeptical of acts of the
Holy Spirit so much where I don't believe a real
miracle when I see it. Sure, But at the same time, yeah,
I think it's good to be cautious, especially again if
you find out later this church has just got so

(01:14:53):
much iniquity and they're stealing from poor people and promising
them blessings from God, and then they're the ones who're
doing all the miracles.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
What does that tell you? Does that tell you this
is coming from God?

Speaker 5 (01:15:05):
Because if the Holy Spirit is the thing that is
transforming us as Christians to being sanctified, going from glory
to glory, we're like, we're supposed to be getting more righteous.
And the men that are supposedly using the power of
the Holy Spirit, like they're Peter or Paul in the
Book of Acts, Well, why are they so filthy on
the inside? These are whitewashed tombs, right, These guys are

(01:15:28):
full of uncleanliness, and they're like dirty bones on the inside,
but they look on the outside as this button up
guy with his hair piece and he's all in this
three thousand dollars suit. And this is the guy who
supposedly the guy who's filled with the Holy Spirit. It's like,
but why is his life such a mess when you
talk to the people are closest to them.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
That doesn't square to me.

Speaker 8 (01:15:52):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
In most of these churches too that I'm talking about,
almost all the members of them have had four or
five different marriages and all kinds of stuff. I'm not
saying anything bad against these people. A lot of them
are really good people. I just feel like there's another
thing there. And so I'm glad at least you're not
beating me up over the head about just saying something
like that, because people, and you know, Christian, I get

(01:16:13):
beat up by Christians more than I do anybody, believe
it or not. I get so much hate mail by
your saying this wrong or doing that wrong, or this
is new age or whatever the case is. And I'm like, dude,
I love Jesus Christ. He's my Lord and Savior, and
I outside of that, I don't know what anybody else
is talking about and I don't really care because I
know that my relationship with Him and with the Holy

(01:16:33):
Spirit is like unquestionable, so I don't. I don't Other
than that, I'm just talking and I'm trying to help
find out answers to all this stuff, just like you are.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
Well, yeah, that's why I have that shirt. Jesus O.

Speaker 5 (01:16:44):
Their behaters, because when I first got on TikTok and
I was making videos about stuff, when I got real
conspiratorial and I talked about some of the craziest stuff.
Those are the videos that I thought I would get
a lot of pushback from, but I usually never did.
But when i'd ever try to tell people something that
happened in the Bible and try to interpret it, that's
when i'd have all the know it all Pharisees come

(01:17:05):
in there and tell me I was a heretic, I
was this or that. And of course when you talk
about the Little Season, we get that a lot. But
when you actually read your Bible, it wasn't the Romans
who were originally persecuting the Christians in the very beginning
of the Bible. It's the religious establishment that was coming
after Jesus and the apostles because they had it all
figured out, So of course it wouldn't be the same

(01:17:28):
way as the people who think they've got it all
figured out are the first one to pick up the
stone to condemn you when you sinned or you said
something that's wrong, or something that not necessarily is wrong,
it's just something that's contrary to what they believe. So yeah,
I think that in this space, I feel like God's
taught me a lot more grace for people on the
street journey because it's the quickest way you could probably

(01:17:50):
turn somebody office to try to shut them down right
away without at least allowing them to speak a little
bit and kind of speak their perspectives. But I mean,
I think that outside of like teaching a different gospel
how you have to be saved a different way than
it's very clearly laid out in the Bible, that's just
something that I think as Christians were commanded to rebuke
that spirit. But yeah, I mean I would say that

(01:18:13):
coming against like the church yanity that we see, I
don't think that that's out of bounds because I think that, yeah,
like that the fruit that's come from the modern Evangelical Church,
the Protestant church in America, there's a lot of bad fruit.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
There's a lot of.

Speaker 5 (01:18:27):
People that go into churches with very good intentions and
then they never go back to church again because of
all the horrible hypocrisy that they've witnessed.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
So that's a real thing.

Speaker 5 (01:18:37):
I've I've had people in my close to my life
that have experienced that church hurt. And so you're like,
from the outside, this church looks like it's got it
all together. But once these people start to work inside
the church and they and they volunteer and they're putting
certain duties, and they find out, Yeah, this is a
den of robbers, it's not a house of God. I

(01:19:00):
think that it's very naive to believe that that doesn't
take place on a large scale, because if as many
churches there are in America, if they were all teaching
the good stuff, if they were all holy spirit filled
Jesus followers, I think the country probably would not be
in the state that it's in.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
But they're not. I think a lot of marblind shepherds.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
No, I definitely agree people will go get filled with
the Holy Spirit at church, but then they won't do
anything throughout the rest of the week. I just released
an episode yesterday where I was talking about this. There's
a guy named Romeo I think his name is Romeo
Bartley Junior for those who were listening to the last episode.
He's out of New York.

Speaker 4 (01:19:40):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
He just walks around and gives people money and helps
him out, puts them in hotels, gives them haircuts, buy
some clothes. I'm like, that is Christianity to me. Man,
I don't know how that can be anything other than that.
But there are people who will you know, they're guardians
of the church. They will sit in their pews that
you know, at the exact seed every Sunday, and they
will they're the there will be the ones who are

(01:20:00):
the most judgmental. And again, this is against church. I
say this every time I still go to church. I've
said this probably a dozen times on this show. It's
not against church. It's just that there are problems. I mean,
there's fifty five thousand different types of Christianity. How do
you know that yours is the right one? You know
what I mean, because my Pa told me it's the
right one. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, So people have to

(01:20:21):
understand that, man, but JT thank you again for coming on.
Where can people buy that shirt at that you were
talking about?

Speaker 5 (01:20:27):
Oh yeah, you can check it out on my website.
If you follow me on anything, you can check out
my link tree I have on my website. Jtfollows JC
dot com. You can check it out over there. But yeah,
if you find me on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, any
of the socials, you can find me over there and
click my link tree, and yeah, so that you can
have opportunity to check it out and check out my

(01:20:49):
podcast where we talk a lot more about some of
these topics and get more in depth about the little
season and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
So, yeah, appreciate it you've had. And I just want
to close it out with saying, you know, the big
followings on Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, all these places, So I
know that's kind of a burden because even even the
small amount of listeners that I have on my show,
I feel this burden to make sure that I'm saying
you know the right thing and not leading people astray.

(01:21:17):
So I'm sure that's kind of a burden for you, man,
But yeah, make you guys, make sure you go follow
him on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube and all this stuff because
he's filled with all this knowledge that he's dropping these
little bombs every single day. I saw great content. I
was looking through my phone the other day and I
probably have on Instagram. I probably have fifteen twenty eight
year videos bookmark, so I can come back and look
at him again. Well that's awesome. Yeah, I mean I

(01:21:38):
would say that.

Speaker 5 (01:21:39):
Yeah, I'm I'm humbled by the platform that God's given me.
But that's why I like to always tell people that, hey, listen,
I'm just another guy on this street journey. When I'm speculating,
I'm theorizing. I like to tell people that this is
what I'm thinking right now, this is my current opinion
about these things. I have the opportunity, all right. I

(01:22:00):
give myself the right to change my mind one day.
And unless I'm speaking directly from the Bible and saying
this is what it says and this is what I believe,
then the rest of it is like that theory is
about George Washington, Sedona, the Hoover Dam and all that
kind of stuff. Yeah, I mean, take it with a
pinch of salt. If you guys agree, cool, If you

(01:22:20):
don't try to correct me in love, and I think
that we're again.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
We'll get to a closer place of the truth than
if we literally say, oh, you're wrong about this, you idiot,
you hear a.

Speaker 5 (01:22:31):
Tick, you Mason, or all this kind of stuff. I
think that, yeah, it's good to be humble in our spaces,
and also to not be so in love with our
theories that we forget what the love is really supposed
to be brought about each other and being giving grace
for people.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Well, I won't muddy up what you just said there
with some of my nonsense, so JT. Thanks for coming on, man,
I appreciate it. I appreciate it, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:23:14):
But I'm standing at the gross for I don't know
where to our news and control.

Speaker 8 (01:23:22):
Trying not to see it on my soul. I'm standing
at the gross I.

Speaker 6 (01:23:27):
Don't know where to our news and control, trying not
to sell you on me in the right direction.

Speaker 7 (01:23:36):
God send me your blessing. I'm so tie up, stress.

Speaker 4 (01:23:41):
It's music's turn to obsession, upsession.

Speaker 7 (01:23:45):
I got a long way to go. These my family,
my clothes sopping wet, bis some sweat and the.

Speaker 4 (01:23:50):
Rain going happen, say having saying wish and I could
change all my mistakes, but y'all be half done the
folly'll that means of things that all louis of Natan
from the outer hall.

Speaker 7 (01:24:02):
But now I can stop my own fall. I gotta
stand till overcome a scene up and down the ther
roll sand the church here, So the deal Lord, Well,
I'm standing at the.

Speaker 8 (01:24:15):
Cross I don't know which I news control, trying not
to see my soul. I'm standing at the gross, I
don't know which I lows a control.

Speaker 4 (01:24:33):
Trying not just set up down, whitting back, thinking about
the men Marius.

Speaker 7 (01:24:37):
Now I don't know who's a friend of me.

Speaker 4 (01:24:39):
These people act like they again to me, Well, that's
still a mister riep a mess never.

Speaker 7 (01:24:45):
Wants me to lose my my religion. But I won't
stop what out of fight I won't give.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
It won't give.

Speaker 4 (01:24:55):
So I'm gonna sit down right head, pray and that's
the lord above it, and change my way Today. The
world's spending with green and be And you move a
door Fana byration to the break.

Speaker 7 (01:25:06):
You can love me. Hey, I'm in a don't break.
I'm at the cross room trying to find my way.
Can your health be o can your health be?

Speaker 8 (01:25:15):
Standing at the cross I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:25:18):
Know which I was A control trying not to see
ri soul. I'm standing at the gross I don't know which.
Our news a control.

Speaker 8 (01:25:33):
Trying not to sell so little? Please got me, got
me all pasty inside, take my shoot me.

Speaker 7 (01:25:44):
The wig, show me the way.

Speaker 5 (01:25:46):
Please got me, got me.

Speaker 8 (01:25:50):
Inside your head to take money, showing the wig. I
standing at this I don't know when. Our news a
control trying not to see my soul. I'm standing at
the cross bones. I don't know where we'll go. Our

(01:26:11):
Nimes a control trying not yourself so. But I'm standing
at the crossbones.

Speaker 7 (01:26:18):
I don't know where to go.

Speaker 8 (01:26:21):
Our news a control, trying not to see my soul.
I'm standing at the cross bones. I don't know where
we'll go. Our Nimes a control trying not yourself so

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