Bachelor Greatest Seasons Ever Episode 2 + Labor of Love Episode 4

Amy and Haley cover the Bachelor casting news, the first episode of The Bachelor: The Greatest Seasons Ever! featuring Kaitlyn Bristowe, and Episode 4 of Labor of Love.

In this podcast, they talk about:
the recent announcement that Matt James has been cast as The Bachelor for Season 25
Episode 2 (featuring Kaitlyn Bristowe) of the new recap show, The Bachelor: The Greatest Seasons... Ever!
the memorable moments shown from the Kaitlyn Bristowe season and some surprising omissions
Nick's near proposal and discussion of his emails to Kaitlyn
Memorable characters and villains, including Jared, Ben Z, Ben H, Nick, Shawn, Clint, JJ, Ian, Joshua and Tanner
the video segments with Chris talking to Jared and Ashley, Madi and Hannah Ann, Deanna and Clare, Nick, Ben, and Kaitlyn and Jason
the surprise announcement that Kaitlyn will be on next season of Dancing with the Stars
Episode 4 of Labor of Love, with Kristy going on dates with Alan and Gary, plus mini dates and moments with Kyle, Trent, and Marcus
Listener questions and more!
Follow Amy (@RHAPrecapper) and Haley (@hstrong_) on Twitter and share your thoughts and questions!

Episode Transcript

(00:15):
Hey, everybody, and welcome toThe Bachelor, Greatest Seasons ever. We're
half up, plus a little bitof labor of love thrown in there.
This is Amy here as always withthe lovely Haley. Strong Haley. How
are you doing tonight? I'm doingwell. A new don has broke.
We have come out on the otherside of something big. Amy. What's

(00:38):
that? Matt James has good joke. I was like, Oh, we
finished watching like one of the seasonswe already watched. Oh, this is
huge news. This is big news. You know, we talked about in
our last episode the Bachelor diversity campaign, and um, how and great it

(01:00):
would be if they named a blackBachelor and guess what they did? They
did it? Um, what doyou what do you think? Let me
know what do you think? Well? I think you know, it was
announced really early morning, and Ithink everyone we're like really excited. Um.
Seemed to be like initial reaction,um, but then it was also

(01:23):
like why right now, Like itseemed a little bit reactionary, and so
on the one hand, I'm like, this is great, this is huge
progress, this is something we've beenwanting. But it doesn't mean that they
haven't done all the things that theBache Diversity campaign calls for. But it

(01:48):
shows their listening and that it wassomething that they wanted to respond to,
so that I'm excited about. Ithink it's great casting, no matter which
way you get it. So likeif he was going to be on Claire's
season and end up as a Bacheloror not. I'm I don't know why
we needed the announcement right now.I mean, I know why they wanted

(02:12):
to do it right now, butI saw reactions from Rachel Charlene and that
kind of echoed how I was feeling. But they put it more eloquently than
me that it was like mixed feelings. How about you. Yeah, I'm
I am excited. I'm very excitedthat this is happening, that this is
finally happening. It does feel likea little like, look, we did

(02:35):
what you wanted us to do.Um, Yeah, it's not that I
think that's all they need to do. Yeah, this is a first step
in a long line of things theyneed to do to rectify the past and
to change the future. So someof the things that the Bachelor Diversity campaign
outlined was including more people of colorin their cast, including more bull of

(03:00):
color, in their production team,which you know, is something I didn't
even really I didn't really think about, but it's so obvious and so necessary
that like that, those people absolutelyneed to be in production. What was
really disappointing to me. I heardRachel lindsay talking about this on podcast.
She was like, they brought themin for my season and that's the only

(03:21):
season they worked on. Like that'sterrible, Like, yeah, I heard
that too. So people need peopleof color need to be brought in on
the production side as well as infront of the camera. We need to
see all sides of that, andthe Bachelor needs to take responsibility for the

(03:43):
show that they have created. AndChris Harrison put a statement up on his
Instagram. It says, we wereexcited to move forward with both Matt James
as the new Bachelor and Claire Crawleyas the next Bachelorette. We acknowledge our
responsibility for the lack of representation ofpeople of color on our franchise and pledge
to make significant changes to address thisissue. Moving forward, we are taking

(04:04):
positive steps to expand diversity in ourcast, in our staff, and most
importantly, in the relationships that weshow on television. We can and will
do better to reflect the world aroundus and show all of its beautiful love
stories. The executive producers. Yeah, so that came out after they announced
Matt James. So I think thathelped show that, Okay, it wasn't

(04:26):
just like we think we can justtake this off the checklist and that's all
we're going to do to appease people. Shows that they're taking it on and
it's really a cross reality TV.We've heard survivor contestants say like, we
need representation behind the camera as well, not just in the cast to get
these stories told. They're not told. We've heard one We'll talk about things

(04:46):
you talked about on the Island thatthey just did them in air and you
don't have the representation behind the cameraand you're not going to see it reflected.
And so I hope that it's notjust like, Okay, the Bachelor's
doing this, but every show istaking this into account us all. Yeah,
and not just even in production,but like editing and you know,
the storylines and everything like that.It's just super important. Yeah. So

(05:12):
I think I can speak for bothof us that we're really excited about this
first step and that's what it isa first step, right, Like it
kind of reminds you of like howexcited we were for Rachel's season, Like
but we were thinking like she wasn'tthere be some momentum behind it, like
oh, this is a big change. Now it feels more like, okay,
hopefully this is like it's not goingto be like with Rachel's seasons where

(05:34):
they where they did that cast herand we're like, okay, we're done,
we have did it. Yeah.Yeah, I was good to see
that statement. It is also uniqueto have somebody cast as the lead who
was not on the show before,Like he's related like kenngentially related to Tyler

(05:59):
someone who was on the show.He's really good friends with Tyler Cameron,
and he was cast on the showand the union circumstances of Claire's season,
there was there were some comments bylike one of the producers like, well,
he was on a radar before,and we know sometimes like people are
cast like with Bachelor Bachelortte potential notreally for the lead or like they you

(06:19):
know like oh that'd be great ifit doesn't work out with the lead that
they have a potential, and that'skind of like I don't really like that
they're like kind of trying to claimit, like, oh, we were
going to do this before, youknow, because you don't know how those
season's going to play out or anything. But I miss those days of when
like you didn't you weren't that familiar. I've heard other people saying like,

(06:41):
well, we're not familiar with him. I don't know if I'm gonna like
be as excited to watch from thatside of things, but I kind of
like that that it's like a freshpick. What do you I agree with
you? M. I am alittle thrown off by it because I haven't
watched a season in which we didn'tknow the person beforehand. I didn't watch

(07:02):
a lot of the old school Bachelorseasons. I did watch in the old
school Bachelor seasons, Like I remembervividly watching Tristas season, but I knew
she was on the show before,like you know, the next press,
they were always on the previous season. Yeah, but I'm I'm really excited
to to meet somebody along with thewomen and get to know him in a

(07:27):
different way than we've known the guysbefore. Um. Do you think he
was cast on the show to bethe next Bachelor? I think Um,
I don't think he was cast forClaire. I'll put it that way.
I don't think, you know,he's so much younger than her, he

(07:48):
has that tie to Tyler. It'snot like she, you know, hangs
out with Tyler or you know thatgroup, that crew. She wasn't like
looped in on Hannah's season in anyway. Just you know, her cast
was really young to begin with,and I think it was they were casting
people for you know, not peoplefrom Peter's season that could have been the

(08:09):
Bachelor, and then kind of shiftedgears based on how that played out.
So I think it was somebody theywanted in the franchise, whether it's a
Bachelor in Paradise and or The Bachelor. And then there was that wrinkle where
he was doing cameo and Claire calledhim out without calling him out by name,
even though he was doing it forcharity. So it kind of solves

(08:30):
that side of things where they're like, well, I don't know if Claire
wants him on the cast, washe going to be on her season anyway?
After that? So because we haddiscussed that when that came up,
like, you know, is hegoing to show up? And they're going
to talk it through. I wasthis going to work, So yeah,
it's interesting. And then some peoplewere wondering if we were going to skip
Claire's season. They've clarified no,like Claire season is happening first. She

(08:54):
hasn't been recast or not, justjumping to Bachelor first. So it's weird
to have this announcement so early whenit's not going to film for until who
knows when. But after Claire season, they can't film simultaneously either. So
I heard they might really I don'tremember where, and I don't know if
that's true, but I heard thatthey, like, I guess it might
just film both kind of at thesame time and air Claire's in the fall

(09:18):
and air match in January. Youknow that that would be smart from the
sense of, like if they're gonnaget a ranch somewhere or resort somewhere,
and we see how little Chris hasto do when it gets like a little
further down the road with ensitive,So if he's just like, Okay,
well now I'm going to watch theleft side of the campus. Now I'm

(09:39):
going to walk over the right sideof the Maybe they could. Yeah,
I guess I have the full stuffthat they normally have. Yeah, and
they could kind of just like useboth. Like I think it would be
tough for sure. But do youthink the seasons would benefit from having smaller
casts? Yeah? Maybe or justwhen that film Bachelor in Paradise or then

(10:00):
too, like hey you guys,I'll move into another wing and chaos and
intermingle. Yeah. Oh, definitelygonna be interesting. I haven't heard any
like developments on I haven't been lookinginto like the filming updates or what the
new theories are of what they're goingto do. But you know, with
California's opening up a little bit more, but yeah, I don't know specifics

(10:24):
on that, so yeah, beinteresting to see. But yeah, overall,
like I'm excited about it for sure, like they'll take it, we're
excited. Um, then we're alsovery excited. I think to revisit Caitlin
season, it really jumped around.There were a lot of things they didn't

(10:48):
show. Um, so I guesslike my first question to you is,
like what surprised you the most?Like maybe let's just go back and forth
on some things that stood out toyou, um from watching it, Like
was it did it bring it allback? Was it like, Oh,
I totally forgot about this. We'resurprised they had left some things out.

(11:09):
Um, it brought some things back. I will say, watching last night
Slash today at lunch, I waslike, Oh, this was so great,
what a great season this was.And then I and then I really
thought back to when we were podcastingit and we were hard on this season.
We weren't hard on Caitlin. Weloved her as a bachelorette. With

(11:31):
the season, the structure was soweird and we couldn't figure out why,
and it watched me in that time. It came off like they were punishing
Caitlin for the choices she made.Yeah, and uh, they just really
mess with a lot of different classicstructures of the show. And I don't

(11:52):
mind when they do that, butit didn't feel like it was done in
a positive way. And I don'tthink what we saw last night really reflected
what we saw. It seemed likerevisionist history. Like now they're like totally
celebrating. Yeah, Like they didn'teven show like I think they were very
kind to her in the sense thatlike they didn't show her proposal what Sean

(12:15):
at all, Like if they werereally truly going to be like, hey,
we're revisiting the seasons and showing you, like the highlights, you the
proposal, and like some proposal wouldbe like you have to include that every
time. Like look what they didthe Sean. They showed m Lindsay,
then they showed Catherine and they're happilyafter, But like, um, are

(12:35):
they with every unsuccessful? When arethey not going to show the proposal because
that's like every other season they're gonnashow. Yeah, Like like for Ben
season next week, are we notgoing to see him break up with Joe
Joe? And are we not goingto see him proposed to Lauren just because
Ben has any fiance and because Lauren'smarried, Like, I just strange,
especially if I feel like The Bachelor'sso interesting because where a lot of TV

(13:01):
shows have lost viewers, the Bachelorjust keeps gaining viewers and gaining momentum.
And so I'd say a lot ofpeople who are maybe checking this out haven't
seen these old seasons. They haven'tseen Kaitlin season. Well, yeah,
Ethan was so surprised and so disappointedthat he didn't see Sean proposed to Caitlin.

(13:24):
He liked Sean in that least threehour clip. We got he was
Ethan got really wrapped up really quicklyin the Nick versus Sean storyline, and
so to see the break up withNick ethan like when Nick got out of
the limo. First Ethan cheered,he literally yes, and then he has
no like awareness, like he hasn'tseen in the guy set. Yeah,

(13:48):
and then so to then so tofallow it up with like nothing. Chrissa
was like and as you know,Sean then her post. She accepted and
they broke up three year years later. I think three years is a successful
relationship, right right, I don'tknow. I was really disappointed to not

(14:09):
see the proposal because it did feellike, um, it wasn't telling the
whole story. And I get,you know, through throughout the show.
Yeah, let's you know, we'lltalk to Ben earlier, so then we're
not like talking about his fantasy sweetbecause it's not like the most relevant or
you know whatever. But not toto not see the proposal between who like

(14:31):
with who she picked that was reallysurprising to me. And I don't think
it was the right choice. No, I think they could have at least
shown a little bit of that,Like, I think it's clear that Sean
was not going to be on theshow, Like you know, people can
turn I think so. Um.I noticed on his Instagram he was just

(14:52):
kind of like, yeah, peopleare asking what I love life a lot
lately. Not sure why that.He's just kind of brushing in a way
and he got a new puppy andlike kind of tease like there's someone special
in my life. Now I'll letyou know later, Like yeah, trying
to divert you know, I thinkit doesn't want to get involved, but
you know, they have the footage, like it's the resolution of what happened,

(15:13):
and even you know, Nick alluded. I'm sure both Caitlin and Nick
were assuming that it would be shown, because they both kind of alluded to
Nick saying like, you know,it was clear like she had stronger feelings
for him. Caitlin said, Istill view it as a successful relationship,
and they spoke about it, sowhy not show some of it and show
that, like, hey, likethis was a you know, romantic proposal

(15:35):
or whatever, because I don't rememberit, but I would have liked to
see a little bit of it.Yeah, I was really really disappointed about
that. Other than that I thoughtit was I thought it was good.
Um, I agree with you.It did feel like revisionist history cutting out
a lot of the stuff, especiallycloser to the end where we didn't really
have Um I don't know, wedidn't only see what it was liked for

(16:00):
them to have been in Ireland forso long. Yeah. I did not
remember at all that she got proposedto at the Bachelor Mansion, like they
brought act So the Bachelor Mansion,like that is not romantic at all.
Why would you want that? Likewhen Sean had like Thailand riding off in
the sunset with an elephant and we'veseen like these most picturesque settings and like

(16:23):
that. I think that Jings didto begin with like they were not never
the least like that's what that's howthey treated her like it was. I
think they flew maybe her parents outto Ireland to meet the guys and they
just from like they had their hometownsin Utah. Do you remember they she
only met Nick and Sean's family.Oh my gosh, I don't remember that.
Yeah. Yeah, there was thismessed up and there what what other

(16:47):
reason did they have? Was therelike a volcano going on or something?
Trying to think if there was somethinglike, yeah, that they think what
they were going to do was goto Patagonia and there was a volcano so
they could end up going. Thatdoesn't and I guess it's hard to like
find a new location too quick.But it doesn't really make sense as to
why she didn't get to go toall their hometowns like that. Still,

(17:12):
that doesn't make sense to me,or why they like went to Utah there.
I don't know. Um, I'mreally surprised they didn't show the clip
of her like saying goodbye a cupcakeon like a cliff and yeah, a
little more scenery, Like they didn'tshow him at all, Like so some
of the things that I remembered aboutit, it's like if I'm still remembering

(17:33):
it, Like, I'm surprised itdidn't make the clip show. Yeah,
I think that was a big one. I think, Um, we didn't
really get to see the goodbye withJared. I would have loved to see
the conversation where Jared told Caitlin thathe voted for Britt but he's so happy
it's her. I think that wasa really memorable conversation to me. I

(17:55):
forgot, I really did forget that. We started off with two Bachelorettes season.
I forgot how like I knew welike hated idea. I loved Caitlin's
and we didn't like Brit. Thatreally brought me back. I remember being
like, oh wow, we didnot like Britt, but we love Caitlin.
I remember being so nervous, likewe knew that brit would not make
an interesting season, Like yeah,and I think it was very clear,

(18:19):
like producers are not going to leaveit up to chance like they cast for
They're gonna ask the guys like whoare you gonna who are you most excited
to see? And so I thinkthey wanted Caitlin. Um, but we're
just doing this almost more like astunt or something. I don't know.
Yeah, I was surprised we didn'tsee you. Remember that there was that
guy that ran after Britt and theydated for like a little bit. Brady.

(18:40):
I thought. I thought when wesaw him that we were going to
get get that moment. I wouldhave liked that, and I thought we'd
get to talk to Britt. Imean, I wasn't clamoring for it,
but just seems to make sense,like okay, she can say, hey,
it all worked out, Like I'mhappy now yeah, but and then
how cruel it was, like whenhe was like telling her and I was

(19:02):
just like, well, we askedall the guys and he did this like
big, like fake out kind ofthing. But then when he told Caitlyn,
he just like let her off thehook right away, So I just
I don't know. It was justlike why did you call her out there?
It's just not cool? So Ifelt bad for her. Yeah,
yeah, it was tough. Um, you know, there are some things
I forgot, like that really horrificconversation with Ian. Yeah, I had

(19:27):
forgotten that too. I loved howCaitlyn handled it though, Like I would
not have been that cool in thatsituation, Like I probably just would have
cried. Like she was like yeah, processing it by giving it back to
him, and like, yeah,that was interesting to see. And then
I didn't realize, like when Isaw Ian, like I knew that was

(19:48):
coming up, but I didn't realizeit was all because of that she let
Nick back in, Like that causedso much drama. The guys were so
upset that she just was like,hey, I want to like sure about
my feelings for this person that Iwas talking to you before I met any
of you guys, seems very reasonable. They were cast just like anybody else,
but they just seemed more like theydidn't want anyone else to like be

(20:11):
on their season, Like, hey, you had your season and it was
so disrespectful for him to be broughtback. But and I forgot how late
and it came in yeah yeah,and then to make it like final too,
Like I guess they had a rightto be upset, but at the
same time, like she was rightto choose them to come back because that's
where her strongest feelings besides what seanworse. Um yeah, and then they

(20:38):
were teasing this whole email thing,these love letters. What what? No,
this was so dumb. This wasso dumb. I didn't seem like
they were going to read them right, like to see like physical footage of
it or something like printed out.Wasn't didn't somebody maybe maybe it was on
Andy season that like Nick left hera letter or something. M So it

(21:00):
was just basically that, um whatwas it that Nick he had been talking
to Caitlyn before and then decided that, Okay, you're going to go on
a season. They were kind oftalking like, well, if you don't
make it and BRIT's chosen just likecome hang out with me in Chicago,
and it was sort of like orif this doesn't work out, and then

(21:23):
so he was just like writing toher while her phone was taken away.
So these letters went into the etherand didn't i'mount anything, but and then
she never saw them and then hefound them later on, but we didn't
hear what it said. It wasjust like Chris said he read them.
I don't know why you would providethem to Chris to read and what this

(21:44):
does, but yeah, never beforeheard about the letters. Well, and
then there was that whole weird thingwith them, like oh, like a
bombshell. There's a bombshell. Andit was that Kitlyn gave Nick like a
like a signal on Jimmy Kimmel orsomething. It was so weird. Yeah,
and I think I even heard Nicktalking about in some interview before,
so um yeah, it was likethey were flirting basically um facetiming, dming

(22:11):
um texting before the show. Soit's like she's probably just like, yeah,
i'll give you a I'll give youa little wink or whatever. I'll
you know, make the sign whenI'm on Kimmel. But Yeah, it's
interesting to go into the season withlike her having him in the back of
her mind and um, yeah,and ultimately Sean went out, but um,

(22:33):
she did say like she needed tellthat last moment. So he showed
up at the podium at the BachelorMansion to propose, And I didn't remember
like how that was. It wasyeah, and we were Nick fans even
before it was cool. Yeah,we were all. It just brought me
back amy, it really did.When he came up to the mansion with

(22:56):
his cute beard, I was like, yeah, this is the this is
it. Yeah. Oh, hewas so hot to me even last night.
I was like, whoa, Iknow he Like I didn't realize like
his goal up happened like during theseason, Like I knew that, like,
whoa, Nick looked so different fromAndy season, but when he showed
up at the beginning of Caitlyn's season, he looked the same, you know,

(23:17):
but he Yeah, the facial hairreally like made a huge difference.
Yeah, I agree. So thatwas the evolution of Nick um. And
it's kind of weird to me toothat he wasn't like even in consideration for
the Bachelor at that time. Ijust don't think he was particularly liked.
He was liked among you and I, but I don't think he was liked

(23:41):
amongst you know, Bachelor nation.And I think even when he was named
Bachelor, we were happy, butI don't think many people were. It
was funny when we were watching theepisode, Ethan said to me, He's
like, oh, so, likedoes Nick ever come back, like does
he do Bachelor or anything? AndI was like, just wait and see,

(24:03):
you know. Chris Harrison mentioned like, oh, like yeah, and
he came back to be the Bachelor, and Ethan was like, he was
the Bachelor, So I really hopewe get to see his season at some
point. We're going to I didn'tthink they were, but then I think,
um, I feel like Chris saidsomething or Nick has said something that
it will actually be U and Iguess there's they're not showing Rachel's, they're

(24:26):
not showing Emily Maynards, And therewas some like licensing issue. I don't
understand why you wouldn't have licensing foryour own seasons, but I guess that
is the factor for why certain seasonsaren't airing, or that's an excuse that's
being given because that's what Nick hadsaid that, like his season is airing,
but not m Rachel's and not Emily'sfor that reason because Emily's was a

(24:49):
pretty dramatic season as well, andhas Ari and so I thought of that
one, but I thought like,yeah, and that makes sense, like
why wouldn't that would be one thatwould be on my radar to be shown.
So it'd be interesting to see whichones keep coming up. And they
also always seem to throw on arandom like check in. Chris is calling
it bachelor and quarantine. So lastweek we saw Peter and Barbe and Kelly,

(25:15):
and this time we got Hannah Annand Maddie together. Believe screen,
we wasted time with this interview insteadof seeing the proposal that would have been
an easy cut, like why dowe need to see that? Like I
guess it was teased for a whileand it seemed like, oh, maybe
there'll be something interesting, but no, if I never hear from Maddie or

(25:40):
Hannah Ann again, I will behappy, Like I don't care about either
of those people at this point,right either, Yeah, yeah, we
could have seen a little of theproposal. We did see, um remember
Clint and JJ Oh my gosh,this was a throwback. I did not
remember this. Yeah, so andJJ villain'sn a Ville like they Oh my

(26:03):
god, what I totally forgot aboutthat. I cackled when he said that
I didn't remember that they were liketalking about like, oh yeah, I
love turtles, like they had sucha random conversation shown. Um, but
then thinking back, like they definitelylike sort of revised how they were presenting
this because on the show, orat least in the advertising, they were
trying to play it off like theywere they were in love and that's why

(26:26):
Clint was trying to stay on theshow, that he was being a villain
to just like get Caitlin to likehim so that he could stay longer on
the show. And then why likeJJ seemed to stick around. I don't
remember, but he seemed to bethere for a while. They didn't really
resolve that or so much of JJ, but he also ended up on Paradise
after Yeah, that was that wasweird. I forgot about that, yeah,

(26:52):
Um. And think that stood outto me was the check in with
Jared and ash and Ashley being totallycool with Jared talking about it and looking
totally not cool every time, LikeChris asked anything about like his feelings for
Caitlin, like oh no, ifit's fine, it's fine, and then
her face was frozen, like yeah, and like the way he kept being

(27:15):
like sorry, sorry, like youknow that's been an issue in the past,
right right, Like they weren't thinkingthey'd ever have to see this again.
But it's just funny to like comeout of like they were in bathroom
paradise, Like this is the worldthat they came out of. And she
posted something today about like she sentshe screenshotted something from the pop Barazzi like

(27:37):
which must have been reality Steve,but like a picture of Jared and sending
it to producers put him in paradiseif Caitlin doesn't pick him, so like,
yeah, I don't know. Ithink she could be a little more
light hearted about it, but I'mnot in her shoes, Like it seems
like so long ago, Like maybeshe is okay with it, but like
her expression just didn't seem like it'sit was kind of cute in a way,

(28:00):
but me too. Yeah, wereyou surprised we didn't see Tanner and
Jade kind of it? Because whenelse would they show them They're not going
to do Chris Soul season. Um, I can't imagine. I think because
Tanner was such a nonentity, it'slike they kind of alluded to like alluded
to him, like, oh,the cast some of your favorites, but

(28:22):
really didn't show him at all,like maybe a little bit in the background.
They showed him, like with thatguy who got drunk the first night
making a comment. So Tanner,um really like I don't know, we
didn't really like even think about ofhim on the show. Really, like
he was kind of funny as anarrator, but barely was seen with Kitlyn.

(28:44):
Yeah. Yeah, but that wouldhave been a more interesting check in
than with Ben Higgins because Ben Higginsis gonna be on next week. Yeah,
what do we care? And theybarely showed him with Kaitlyn either,
So um, didn't really add muchto the conversation. So we could have
checked in with Tanner and Jade,I would have been a little better.
Oh and then they had Pianna andClaire. Should you think of seeing them?

(29:07):
So I'm glad that they're showing usClaire just to be like, Claire
is our next bachelorette, like nomatter what happens, like this is happening
for her, which I appreciate becauseI feel like it has been kind of
up in the air whether or notthey are going to just kind of skip
over and be like sorry Claire.So I'm glad we're seeing her and they're
really being like, hey, yeah, this is happening. Dianna. I

(29:32):
don't know. I didn't watch herseason, so I didn't really feel like
any particular like infinity or excitement tosee her. Yeah. I get the
sense that they're trying to bring someof these bachelorettes in that it's like,
hey, we're not going to showyour season like Deserre Deanna, Sorry,
but like right, let's like giveyou a nod kind of thing, like
let's like give you a call tobe nice or something. So yeah,

(29:56):
I think that's it. Though Ireally liked her season. It brought us
Graham Dosary season brought us Brooks likethey're pretty handsome, dramatic moments. I
liked it, but can't show everybodyand who knows me, there's licensing issues
with these ones too. I feellike Quarantine's gonna last forever, Like why
can't we just watch those seasons?Just do? Yeah? How many forty

(30:18):
weeks of this we can. Yeah, it's fun, like settling in like
it. Like you, I brokeit up like over two days to watch
it, but I was excited,like, yeah, let's get the popcorn
and see see what they're gonna showand bring these memories back of a simpler
time when we were starting to leavethe house. Yeah, we can leave
the house was our second season ofcoverage because we did an Any season,

(30:41):
right, so our second Bachelor season. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
I think we are really in lovewith Bensey at the time too. Oh
my gosh, we're we ever.I think that's where Paradise like took the
luster away. Absolutely, we werein love with him for years. Every
time it was like, oh,who's going to be the next Actually we're
like obviously and this show, thisepisode made him look really good again too,

(31:06):
like talking about his mom and likeI didn't remember them having such a
romantic date before, so gave himsome airtime. Is this the best group
of guys we've seen? I thinkso, because we had some were really
dead casting and sea Yeah, likewhere we can't even do our draft because
we're like these photos are just terrible. You can't even pick anyone. Yeah,

(31:27):
bios are terrible. Yeah, Ithink history proves it out based on
these people that have been on BachelorParadise. And I think timing wise too
that it was just when Bachelor andParadise was starting, and um, it
just makes sense that they've been inthe franchise a little longer and more likely
to get called back. Because wasBenz even like was it two seasons ago

(31:52):
or last season? I spend two? Oh god, I have no idea.
I cannot keep track. Like hewas kind of a surprising choice.
It was like a while that.Yeah, and then we saw Amy Schumer
for a little clips that was kindof fun to remember that she thought about
that. I was so excited.That was like my real like Amy Schumer,

(32:13):
hey day. So I was soexcited to see her. I actually
in quarantine. I watched her cookingshow, which was super cute and a
lot of fun. Nice another goodwreck. Um. Yeah, I wish,
like I think, just think theydid a better job with covering Sean
season, seeing more glimpses like outof rather seeing like a fun date like

(32:35):
that, like see the whole thingwith Amy Schumer or something. Yeah.
Yeah, at least they gave anod to ITU and then the announcement at
the end, Like that got me. Even though I got spoiled on it
on social media before I saw,I did get emotional watching that because we
have talked about like how unfair thatwas to Caitlin. How did you feel
seeing that she was getting the opportunityto be on Dancing with the Stars.

(32:58):
I'm really I'm really excited for herwhen they were like, oh, the
biggest proposal ever, and like Iknew obviously wasn't going to be Jason proposing
to Kitlin. So I didn't reallyknow what it was going Tokay, So
you came in on wild side,No, I knew by the time I
saw it, Okay, I didn'tknow what it was going to be.
But like when we saw like thepreviews, I was like, what is

(33:19):
this going to be? But Iwas really excited for her. This is
obviously this is something that she's wantedfor a long time, and I am
just glad that they're doing it finally. It feels like a real like reckoning.
Um, it feels like they didn'tlet her be on, and they
didn't let her she got the offer, she was not allowed to do it

(33:40):
because they were disappointed in her,Like the season was not what they wanted,
what they said that they wanted,Like they don't they want people to
just be focused on finding love andthey don't want it to detract even though
Sean Lowe had done it and Cristalshad done it like just before that,
like oh we're shifting away and thenNick got to do it, you know,
like multiple people got to do it. Yeah, so I'm glad she's

(34:05):
finally getting this. It does feellike they're um trying to trying to make
peace with Caitlin and what what theydid to her basically, like they didn't.
I think it was on the mentelall where the finale in which they
like made her read like all thethings where they're people were calling her a
slut, which is horrific, right, and now they're like groundbreaking like Trailblazer,

(34:34):
you know. So I mean shewas, but that's how they treated
her when it happened. And butyeah, without Caitlin, like we wouldn't
be now have like Hannah Brown seasonor yeah, Hannah Brown would have been
as accepted um for you know,revealing that she had sex in the fantasy
s um. So yeah, itwas just a nice seeking. I wish

(35:00):
they would have shown the proposal andthen and then you can still end on
that exciting note seeing her happy withJason. Um. But yeah, that
was a little a little weird thatthey didn't do that. Um. Should
we get into questions that we haveon this sure episode before we dig into

(35:22):
yeah, exactly, so let usknow if you're the labor of love like
die Hards that are a company justfor that. Um, I'm still enjoying
it. Um. This is anemail. Okay, it's from Kaya.
Dear Amy and Haley. I justwant to say, as a person whose
favorite season is Caitlin Bristow's is ablack chick and lives in Raleigh, North

(35:44):
Carolina, the same hometown as inMatt James this week, and batch our
Nation feels like it was made forme. With that said, my question
is, what was your favorite momentthat may or may not have gotten highlighted
in the compressed version of the season. When Caitlin messed up Joshua's haircut,
When Amy Schumer roasted JJ Lane,When JJ slapped himself after his confrontation with
Clint Sean accidentally in Long John's onthe golf course, or something else thanks,

(36:07):
Yeah, this Kaya sent me thisemail. I think maybe Sunday or
even Saturday. So it's funny thatso many of the moments she mentioned were
actually highlighted. WHOA, that's crazy. I didn't think that they would have
shown the haircut thing, like that'sa good thing. I know. Yeah,
it's like it's like they hacked myemail or maybe Kyle works for the

(36:30):
show. No and JJ Lane likethe roasting was way at the end.
Yeah, I don't remember that atall. That was so funny, and
he was totally like it went overhis head, like when she's like,
yeah, I don't worry about that. Yeah, you're not the like she
was just like, you're not thesmartest person here, nor are you particularly
funny. That was amazing. Ithink that was my favorite moment. I

(36:52):
can't really think of any moments thatwere my favorite that we didn't see.
M I think it was a mistakenot to show like the edge of the
cliff breakup, where they kind ofmade it seem like Chris was just like
gonna jump off a cliff or something, right, And I think we should
have seen the proposal, Like Ikeep going back to that, but like
we should have seen it. I'msure obviously Kayle was assuming that would be

(37:14):
shown as well. Yeah. Anotherone of my favorite things was the morning
after Ben Um after his fantasy suite. Just that's kind of like swagger,
yeah, and walking in the fantasysuite from just loving that. Oh that
wasn't good. Yeah, I wouldhave liked to have seen a little bit
more like show Ben and Jared,Oh, give us a little more meat

(37:35):
on that, like to show outlike they went three and four. I
forgot Jared was four. Yeah,and I remember he had like a cute
like they were more like friend vibes, but they had a cute like natural
chemistry, like going like I thinkthey went on a road trip in Ireland
Stone maybe yeah, and they Ifeel like it was them who got the

(37:55):
only acceptable uh one on one concertin Bachelor history, all the cranberries.
Yes, yeah, yeah they couldhave shown Maybe I couldn't have shown that.
Maybe it was like not licensing,that's a licensing, but um,
that would have been good. AndI had forgotten, but I heard it

(38:17):
mentioned on another podcast that Tony theHealer was on Caitlin season. So,
um, those eccentric characters, likethey showed that hot tub guy, amateur
sex coach, Like I would liketo see the more quirky, like because
Caitlyn had fun with those characters,you know, like she like actually entertain
them in conversation. Um, andthen like she eliminated that guy who got

(38:40):
so drunk, Like wasn't he likemaybe naked and jumping in the pool.
So showing her like kind of handleherself and like make fun of these guys
I think would have been good.But yeah, they showed a lot.
I forgot about the Sean like strippinglike streaking, laugh, I was like
a fun que moment for that Iforgot about. It's so much chemistry,

(39:01):
Sean like pulling her aside to belike, hey, why did you sleep
with Nick? And she's like,honestly, I made a mistake telling you
you're the one and you have totrust me. Forgout that too, and
like just like how her face droppedwhen she's like called as a name and
he was like, hey, canI talk to you for a second,
Like she thought he was leaving,and you could tell that's not what she
wanted to happen. So yeah,they did. You know, some of

(39:23):
those moments I had forgotten, Butyeah, that's funny that Kaya like predicted
some of these things. I totallyforgot about Joshua completely me too. I
would never get a million years ofthought of that. He was one of
those guys that wasn't Joe on thisseason too, like Joe. Yeah,
and he had he had a badexit from this too, Yeah right,

(39:46):
that would I'm good? All right? They need like a sequel? Yeah,
um, here's another Um. Isthis an email too from Dan Um?
Or is this so Facebook? Idon't know? A nice short and
concise one. So you could goeither way. Now that some of the

(40:06):
time has passed, do you haveany better understanding of what the hell happened
during Peter's after the final rows withPeter and Madison and barbed and then Kelly
being in the audience? Dan?You know what, Dan, I would
say, It makes me even alittle more mad because it's so clear that
to me at least, that Peterand Kelly had been talking or chatting or

(40:29):
something um, and that the relationshipwith Madison was so like faked and dumb,
and like it's just like, what'sthe point, Like do you think
Peter got talked into doing this becausehe's so like naive or manipulable. I
don't know. Yeah, it seemedlike they either wanted to Like at the

(40:51):
time, I was like, oh, they're just like playing into the trolls,
like they went troll the audience,or yeah, they're really sure did
feel like that. But I guesswith Madison, it's like, what's the
point of going through that, justbe like, Yo, we didn't work
out and that's fine. Yeah,Like they just wanted to make it look
like it's kind of like an rikind of like adjacent, like they want

(41:12):
to leave some mystery there or puta bow on it, like, hey,
like maybe they'll be happy together.Guys. Yeah, very weird.
Yeah, I don't really know.This is from Facebook Kyle Picard. They
didn't show Caitlin giving Sean the finalrose slash Shan's proposal. Do you think
they'll avoid showing the final roles forall the seasons or the couple isn't still
together? I really hope not.I hope this is the only season in

(41:38):
which we don't see the proposal,because it just makes no sense for like
the storyline or even the purpose ofthis exercise that is showing old seasons and
you know what's the point of notshowing the happy ending even if it didn't
necessarily end up happy in the end. Yeah, I can't imagine. I

(42:00):
could see, Like now I'm alittle worried about Ben season, like they
might show the Jojo thing because Joeis happy now and she's gonna be you
know, featured on her own oneseems like and maybe they'll really minimize with
Lauren or maybe it depends on theirrelationship with the the lead, Like if
if Caitlin had contact them and say, like I'm really upset about this and

(42:22):
like I don't want it to bringlike hurt my current relationship or something,
Jason would be upset about something likethat. Jason seems like pretty chill.
No, I don't think he would. I think they'll show Nicks for sure,
Like he seems like fine with liketalking about it and that it was
successful, but it just like theyweren't meant in the long run, but

(42:43):
that like she was the one throughouthis whole season. So if I don't
see how they can with all thedifferent seasons they have to show, and
if they go back like first season, second season, like I think they'll
have to show it because it's morejust historic at this point. But yeah,
I think that was definitely a missand doesn't quite make sense. So

(43:05):
Ben's I think we'll set the tone, like, we'll see what they do
next week, Ava Picket. Howmany times did Chris Harrison say the word
intimate? And how much do youthink that made his son regret ever helping
him? I think I think hisson just regretted helping him from the very
beginning. He just didn't have away out. Probably do we need to

(43:27):
see him like every time in thecorner there? No, it's so weird
again, all the time we wastedlooking at jos I feel like we could
have seen at least some of theproposal, right, And if he's controlling
it, like don't it doesn't seemlike he wants to be in that shot.
Yeah, Justin Feinberg, which ofthese two guys felt more embarrassment and
regret while rewatching the night one footagefrom five years ago? Sean E the

(43:52):
dude who's chirron read amateur sex coach, or Ryan the dude who announced to
room full of people that he's hornedup. Do you think either of those
guy guys remember they were on thebatch stret Yeah, or any of them
like tweeting it out right now,instagramming it like they're really excited that's airing
again. Yeah, I'd say Shannymight be excited. I don't think Ryan

(44:14):
is right. Yeah, I meanthey could have shown a lot more.
Probably so they didn't make them lookthat bad, but at least Shanee had
a really cool entrance. Then,Justin Feimer, do you think Clint still

(44:34):
lays in bed and cries thinking aboutthe time five years ago when his best
friend betrayed him on national television?Probably? Yeah, where is Clint?
Where are Clinton? JJ? Like? Did they make amends? Like?
Why was Clint never noy? Like? It seems like someone they would call
back, But there's no way theymade amends. I so, Justin Feinberg,

(44:55):
with all the talk I had forgottenabout that drawing that he did though
of Chris Harrison, try Sarahtopx.Yeah, Justin fine Ring with all the
talk about sex and sex education inthis episode, how do you think Chris
Harrison's initial conversation with his son Joshabout the birds and the bees? When
did Chris talk about Nick and Caitlinseason when explaining things to then thirteen year

(45:16):
old Josh. I think maybe hejust showed them showed him like the Sex
Said date. Yeah, I forgotabout that date. Oh I hated that.
Yeah, And I didn't remember thatit was a prank, Like I
didn't remember that it was after Canyou believe Ben was like took sex Said
like as a teachable in college.No, I did not know that did

(45:38):
not That surprised me. I guessit was like the best bend clip they
had because from what I remember,like I was just kind of like surprised
that he was even chosen as theBatchel, Like I just felt like he
was kind of bland on her season, Like it didn't seem like, you
know, it seemed like he wasa good looking guy, but she had

(45:58):
more chemistry with others obviously, andthat we didn't get to like see a
lot of like content from him fromwhat I remember, And they didn't show
much from him. M. Yeah, they could have just said Josh sitting
in the audience. He could havebeen one of the get a sag card
by like sitting there as on theactor Jessica Sterling, please talk about how

(46:19):
uncomfy Chris asking Ashley injured sex lifemade you. Yeah, they're at her
parents. I hate it and howuncomfy it made them too, Like I
just like we're not chill for that, Like they were not prepared. I
don't think for like that that zoomcall. Yeah, I was weird.
Jessica Sterling also wants to know doesCaitlin have the best overall cast of minute

(46:43):
same question you asked in recent history? So yeah, we could answer that.
I think so. I really dothink so, yeah, because I
feel like recent casts, like there'salways like someone even someone who gets to
like final six, where like we'venever seen this person, they've never gotten
a date. Well just think aboutJoJo's cast and how much we hated ever

(47:04):
we get a bath shown of that, like you upset about like if people
were upset about Nick being has likeyou want Robbie, you want Kidio made
Luke m oh god yeah, umjosep Feinberg, how much time do you
think Nick Vile spends How much timedo you think Nick Viles spends self reflecting

(47:25):
and wondering how during his two stintsin the bathtod he lost out two overly
possessive macho assets. Yeah that's tough. I um I also, uh,
I told Ethan. Then he wason the season before and he got dumped
a final two and he was likeno, no, like, oh no,
poor guy. I was like,yeah, that's interesting, Like I

(47:47):
guess, I guess I always likedSean more um, but yeah, he
did really behave terribly in um thatseason towards just like couldn't even call Nick
by his name and just um.But I think just because I liked them
together, whereas with Josh, likewe got to see that like his true

(48:09):
colors at other times as well.So but yeah, it's interesting because I
think two in both those seasons,like Nick was a huge factor in their
breakups. Like it sounds like evenSean like couldn't really get past it.
And that's definitely like Josh could notget past that. I guess Andy maybe
didn't reveal that like what happened andwas like really upset that Nick brought it

(48:31):
up on after the final rose,so like they came on the show but
weren't really cool with the concept ofthe show in the format. So yeah,
I think Nick like he's loving thathe's back on TV right now,
anytime he can get on television foranything. Yeah, Like he's just like

(48:52):
and here's what because I've heard heardhim on chatty broads and he's just like
he's like reliving his like greatest hits, Like I I love like how that
breakup looked, like that was mybest moment on all these shows. Like
he's just like living for it rightnow, So I'm happy for him.
Let's see, I think that wasit for questions. Oh, let me

(49:14):
just make sure. Yes. SoKate Philly Shimone just was excited Caitlin on
DWTS, which, yeah, likeI am gonna have to watch at least
her clips because and I can alreadysee it. There's gonna be one of
her dances. Is gonna be toher single, Like they'll find a way

(49:35):
to like do a version of it, and like it's like all her bucket
list things are coming true. Sothat's cool for her. I still haven't
listened to it. I should,I've only heard clips, but yeah,
I think I'm sure that or someother song, like she'll get to debut
a song, like she's she's smart, she like has like created so many
businesses for herself, and like Ithink she'll use this to her full advantage
as well, like um as sheshould. So that's really cool. On

(50:00):
she could win. She's like hasa dancing background and yeah Hannah warn and
huge audience behind her, So yeah, that's very cool. And who knows
when Dancing with the Stars will getto film that's very close contact, like
we have to be Yeah, likeare they going to quarantine somewhere as well?

(50:21):
So yeah, whenever that film is, that's exciting. All right.
Labor of Love the other show thatwe're watching. It airs on Thursday nights
on Fox with the lead Christie lookingfor future father of her children. So
this episode, let me seeing Iactually took notes on this song because you

(50:44):
did remember, Yeah, we seethree hours of The Bachelor. I thought
this was another nice episode. Ithink that's this whole show is just kind
of like nice. It's uh,it feels like relaxing. It doesn't feel
super intense, and even the dramaticdoesn't. The drama doesn't feel like super

(51:06):
intense. And I just I thinkChristy has a very calming presence, which
I I dick. I'm I'm likingthe show. I think it's kind of
fun. Um. So we havea couple of dates in this episode.
The first one goes to alan Umbut not until after he brings her some

(51:27):
food that he made for her,which kind of got in on. Oh
my god, I can't remember.I can't remember Keith's uh, Keith's idea
to bring her some fried chicken.I think I would have preferred the fried
chicken. This was the question Iwas gonna have for you, you know,
as like, you know, you'rea co host on the Top Chef
for Have of and you know,Snapchaticionado. So I was gonna say,

(51:52):
like, would you rather got anAlan's stew or um the chicken? And
yeah, the fried chicken, andI think like greens or something. I
bet I would have loved Alan Stu, but it's hard to say no to
homemade fried chicken. Yeah, Ithink if I'm like filming all day living
in a house like Stu would be, like, you know, I wouldn't

(52:14):
be as excited, even though I'msure it was very good. But yeah,
Alan just kind of overstepped. Iguess Stu was faster to make or
you just like went over there firstand that made you throw a wine glass
on the ground, and he endedup like finding a way to like one
up. Alan. I didn't thinkit was gonna work because I thought it

(52:36):
would be like, Okay, wellhe's gonna put it on the doorstep when
Alan's coming back for a nightcap.But Alan's going to come in for a
nightcap, so that's gonna win up. But Alan like acted like he wanted
to come back and then didn't goin with Christy, Like what was what
was that about? Like, Istill don't understand. I think maybe he
just like wasn't that intour. Yeah, maybe because it was like, yeah,

(52:58):
um, they had their one ofthose like smashing things dates like we've
seen on the Bachelorette before, um, spray paint, you know, your
fears or whatever, what's been holdingyou back. We've seen that on um
to handle things like that and thendestroy it some way. So, um,
they seem to have chemistry on thatdate. She obviously like found him

(53:20):
attractive, she was saying, butum, this lost him a lot of
points where he was more concerned aboutthe guy's back at the house and not
wanting to like go in and knowingthat they he said something like they have
interesting feelings for you as well orsomething like that, and yeah, maybe
he just felt like they actually reallylike her, and I'm just kind of

(53:43):
like I'm not sure, so doI want to like overstep if you know,
I'm not as serious about it.Yeah, I thought it was.
I thought it was pretty pretty strange. Honestly, one of her favorite things
to say about The Bachelor it applieshere is like, don't spend your time
talking about the other people in thehouse. And I think that's true.

(54:07):
Yeah, yeah, it's interesting.You don't usually see this, but yeah,
it's kind of the other way,like if you're just like, yeah,
we're grown down and it's like somuch fun back at the house,
like that's not, um what wesaw it kind of on Kaitlin season when
they showed that clip of Clint talkingabout JJ, like he was just talking
about like, yeah, we're havinga lot of fun, like and so

(54:28):
I think she was like, well, that's not it's not about JJ right
now, Like this is between meand you. So yeah, I'm not
a good not a good look um. But um, I guess he sticks
around until the end and he's oneof the people that she um wants to
talk to. And another thing wedon't usually see on The Bachelor Bachelorette is

(54:51):
she actually lets him go, likeshe's looking like you know what like,
this is somebody like in my twentiesthat I probably would have like kept around.
Yeah, she like looked like analyzedit and was like, no,
this is like he did not prioritizeme. So I love that that was
something. I really love the introspectionhere, you know. I love how

(55:12):
mature Christie is and how she looksat relationships. So it's it's it's fun
to see this, and I'm hopingthis is what we get from Claire's season
because she is a little bit older. We really do get that, Like,
I'm not here to waste time.If you want to spend time talking
about the other guys in the house, great you're gonna leave because this is
about me and our relationship and whetheror not I can find a partner.

(55:36):
I'm totally rooting for that now,Like I want Claire to like get rid
of like the hottest guy like threeweeks in and he'll be shocked and like,
don't give him a chance at viIP like all the guys. Another
interesting point now is like all theguys know like they're not going to be
the bachelor on her season, Soyeah, maybe they will two years from
now, who knows, But likethey have to be there for Claire or
you know their social media followings.It's not going to be from They're not

(55:58):
getting Bachelor after this. Yeah that. And so then there's a second date
with Gary, who I feel likewe haven't seen a whole lot from and
I feel like they didn't even reallya whole lot from him in this the
worst date. Like it was goodand that it showed that he was really
like great with kids, but hedidn't even I don't think they kissed her
anything, because like as soon asthe kids left, they were he had

(56:21):
to host a birthday party for theneighborhood mom. Apparently she's like, oh
yeah, Kristin Davis said you couldhost see you later. Here's all the
kids, like not set up atall, but um, they like finally
got there alone time in the bouncyhouse and then was it Stewart a couple
of the guys came over and waslike, oh, we got to pull
Christy away now. Sorry. Yeahweird. And I thought it was interesting

(56:45):
that Keith was like, I'd beso pissed if this for me. This
is so stupid, Like I don'twant kids on my date. Like there's
sure I like kids, but Idon't want them on my date. And
it's kind of like, well,why are you there? I don't know
this is this is for you,Bud. Yeah, these are like they
called all these things like tests upuntil at this point they're like, well,
there's no like tests this week,but there's dates. But that is

(57:06):
a test. If you're responding toit like that, that's probably not like
if she finds out about it,probably not good. And then they do
a game with white boards, um, and I wanted it to be like,
okay, you write, you actuallyanswer the question, you write one
word like, but they all wroteseemed to write essays on these white boards,
yeah, like do you want aboy or a girl first? And

(57:28):
they would write like an essay Iwant them you know, I made my
last name to be continued on.At least he was honest about that,
I guess, but yeah, everyoneelse was like did like yeah, I
mean I guess maybe that was thetest that she didn't want them to just
like say, um, their firstinstinct or whatever. Um. But then

(57:50):
Matt like really he was kind oflike doing well not handle the whiteboard game,
Like he's just like, I'm notinto this. And so they asked
you want a boy or girl?First he wrote dog yeahs, and then
like the childcare answer didn't like sitwell with Christy because he didn't like seem
to like take any involvement in thatand wanted her to take care of the

(58:14):
kids mixed with his family. Soshe was like, well that didn't match
up with her answer. Um,so yeah, then he kind of I
love Gary's answer. I think Garywas the one to be like me,
like, like if I set myselfup a good career so that I could
do this, yeah, that's cool. Um. And then we saw a

(58:36):
couple of mini dates where Kyle tookher away for this blindfold date to have
like chocolate, chocolate, word strawberries, and she was loving that. I
would never in my life want todo this the blin please don't please don't
blindfold me. The snacks are goodthough, right, Like I do love
a snack, yeah, but Iwant to be able to enjoy the snack
and see the snack and not beworried if I'm being kidnapped. Right.

(59:00):
I have to think Kyle gets theone on one next week because she keeps
talking about Kyle and yeah, theyhaven't had that time. So then we
saw Trent as well. We haven'tseen the one on one, but he
went over to her her side ofthe house the other house across the way,
and taught her the two step.Marcus starts worrying that he's falling a
little bit behind because he had likethe first date. So that classic syndrome

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we see on that's what ye firstone. I thought it was interesting,
I will say. I like howhonest Christie's being to the camera to the
guys. I like that she saidto Trent, like you and I are
so different. But I like thatyou're you're giving me some fun like that
I wouldn't expect, you know,So I like I like that she's telling

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him that. I like that she'stelling us that I love him any date.
I think it's important to be ableto get time. And I think
Christie really appreciates the guys who putin an extra effort to get to know
her. Um. Like you said, we see her call a couple of
guys over to talk to at theend. So was she talked to?

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She talks to Matt, Allen andKeith and Trent. Yeah, and Alan
and Matt are the two guys shesends home. She just thinks that they
don't have a connection. Alan wasbecause he wasn't focused on her. Matt
he just kind of like it didn'thave the same expectations for a relationship and
for a family that Chrisy did.I think those are completely fair reasons.

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And Keith and Trent are two peopleshe wanted to commend. Yeah, and
it's interesting too because she hasn't hadthat extended time with them, So we
don't usually see on these dating shows, like usually there's people that they never
get the one on one and thenthey just get sent home because it's just
like it never went there. SoI like that she's like, Okay,
I gave these other guys a chance, but then I'm finding out things about

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them, like maybe they were initiallyat the top of her list, but
they don't actually match her criteria inthe end, and so it's like,
let me get to know these otherguys and get rid of the ones that
even the audience doesn't know them thatwell, Like she's trying to keep to
know them. I don't think anyonethe guys in the house there's some conflict
with Keith, like they're like,oh, he has a temper. She
doesn't know about it, but nobody'slike brought that to her attention yet,

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so I don't know if that's goingto be a storyline coming up or not.
Um. But then Marcus decides towalk her home, which is just
like what like ten feet but youknow, but I loved it. I
really love this movie to be like, Hey, I'm gonna walk you home.
I'm going to make sure I'm onthe top of your mind. And
they had a really like like passionatekiss. I don't often i'm like into

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like the kiss was on the show, but I was like appreciative of this
one. Um, I think,and I love that s What did she
tell him, like the one fornext year? No, she said,
you're the one who made this realfor me. All I love that.
I loved I loved it. MI think Marcus is the front runner here,
and I think both of us mightbe pretty pleased if he was so
excited for him, he can stopfinding shows to be on and like to

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be happy. And it sounded likehe's like reduced, like reduced hours on
his job to like make room fora family. So it just seemed like
kind of really perfect for him togetherChicago with his job. Oh, yeah,
that would be really cool. Yeah. Um yeah, that'd be like
seemed like full circle for us,Like there's that tie, you know.

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And yeah, I would have thoughtAlan and Marcus or like the top Stewart's
up there too. So now thatAlan's out of it, it's like I'm
really rooting for Marcus now. Yeah, me too. Yeah. Um.
So that's it for that. Um, anything else you're excited about you recommended
Amy Schumer's cooking show, I wasquarantine. Um, anything else coming up

(01:02:46):
that you want to plug or well, I can't remember if it was.
God the time is just flying by, you know. I think I talked
about it last week. I wason Robin and Kepan Need a podcast with
Ethan we'd played Pointless. That wasa lot of fun. If you haven't
checked that out already, do so. I think the videos up on YouTube
too. The Top Chef finale iscoming up this week, and so we'll

(01:03:09):
be podcasting about it this weekend.That's gonna be a lot of fun.
It's gonna be sad, but Ithink we're gonna try and come up with
a concept to keep podcasting in theoff season. We haven't quite nailed down
that yet, but I'm excited todo that. I just posted a blog
today about why I'm excited that MattJames has been NA The Bachelor, so

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you can check that out on StrongTakes Donca. Other than that, you
can find me on Instagram and Twitterat a strong Underscore. Awesome when you
can find me on Twitter at hprecapper. Until next time, Bye bye