Bachelor Greatest Seasons Ever Episode 5 - Alex Michel and Trista Sutter

Amy and Haley discuss Bachelor... Greatest Seasons Ever episode covering the very first Bachelor and Bachelorette seasons.

Episode Transcript

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Hey, everybody, and welcome toThe Bachelor. Greatest seasons ever were half
up. I'm Amy here as alwayswith the lovely Haley Strong Haley, how
are you doing tonight? You knowI'm feeling nice and toasty and my very
oversized blazer perfect. That was I'mwearing my mock turtleneck and keeping me nice

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and cool in the air conditioning aswell. So, yes, this was
a blast from the past, andthat was a new experience for you as
we went back to the original thefirst season Alex Michelle combine that with the
first bachelotte season Trista Wren. Howexcited were you to go back to these

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two seasons. I was really excited, honestly. You know, I've dedicated
so much of my life to TheBachelor, and I've never seen the very
first season, so I was kindof excited to go back and see what
it was like. I don't Ihonestly didn't realize that Trista was on the
very first season either. Okay,because I knew she was, her season

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with The Bachelorette came a couple ofyears into the franchise, so I just
figured she was on a little bitof a later season. Yeah, it
was kind of like they liked herso much, and it was I remember
it being kind of like a debate, like should they do this, like
all the tables are turned, leta woman make the decision? Yeah,
can you imagine that women making decisions? Right? Yeah, it's a different

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time. Oh my goodness, solittle controversial. Yeah. I was definitely
excited to go back and see whatI wasn't excited like to see what happened
really, but just to see howit had changed. And there was a
lot of things that besides the fashionthat were different. Oh, my favorite

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weird thing was the one row ceremonywhere everybody was sitting on the coach.
Oh, just sitting there and likenobody cheering. When the lead walks in,
They're just kind of like, hey, how's it going. Oh yeah,
well we're just gonna sit for this. Is that cool? Yeah?
Okay? Thanks? And then um, the angles when the women were coming

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out to meet Alex, Like theway it was filmed, it was like
POV camera from it like the backof his head. Yeah, it was.
There were some interesting choices, that'sfor sure. What did you think
of the choice of Alex Michelle asthe lead? That was an interesting choice.
I wonder what led them to choosinghim. Um, he seemed pretty

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like boring and normal. Um,I don't know, and it seemed like
he was kind of a little bitof a skis Yeah, kind of douchey.
I thought it was funny how theyshowed like we've kept his identity a
secret, and I kind of rememberthem how they used to do that,
Like they'd have kind of like almostlike a profile, give facts about the

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bachelor before they revealed who it was, and it was always like someone you
never heard of, but just likeyou were supposed to just think was like
the most eligible bachelor in the country. And yeah, they start out with
Alex Michelle. I think maybe becausethey got turned down by other people were
like what is this show? Yeah, seems a little strange or I don't

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want to get engaged. So butI guess to his credentials. He went
to Harvard, so that was,oh wow, that was a big deal.
Harvard n Stanford. Wow, whata combo. No, and he
wants nothing to do with the showanymore. Did you think there was a
chance that he was going to showup based on Chris Harrison's teases, like
a very very slight chance, becauseI haven't really heard anything that he's he's

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come out against the show or sayit's ruined his life for anything. So
I wasn't totally sure, but um, I'm not. I wasn't that surprised
to not see him. Yeah,um yeah. I feel like more like
the show has just kind of dissedhim in the past, like not to
the extent that they would with onePoplo, but just sort of like laugh

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off that he was the first oneor that you know, he wasn't really
there their favorite m so, butyou could have, you know what,
would have hurt to show up now, like let us see what's going on,
you know, what are you doingin quarantine? Well, and like
I feel like we got a lotof conversations with the women from his season
that was kind of surprising. Iwas surprised, and I was also really

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happy about it. It's clear thatthese women are just you know, kind
of like happy that they were apart of this experience. And um,
I think Shannon could have easily saidno, I'm not talking to you,
like I look bad on this show, and she just came and was like
hey, yeah, like you know, I made a mistake whatever, it's
that we're all happy now. Ithink she's like, I look exactly the

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same as I did back then,so I'm going to show everybody how great
i'm too. All of these womenlooked so good, you know. Yeah,
it was funny too, how theywere showing this, like they put
labels over this as they were likethe first helicopter, the first kiss,
the first I'm not here to makefriends. I don't think they had the

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right reasons there yet, because peopledidn't really know what the reasons were for
going on the show. But yeah, that Lady Ronda kind of coined like
a reality TV phrase, at leastfor the Bachelor. Maybe it had been
said before, but yeah, andlike again, she could have easily said
no to their invitation to talk,because you know, she kind of came

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off a little bit interesting, that'sfor sure, and you know, she
was happy to be there, andI thought it was really fun and it
was I don't know, I guessit's kind of different because a lot of
these women social media just was not, like literally not around when they were
on the show, so they didn'thave the opportunity to be talked about in

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a way from so many so manypeople that the contestants are talked about.
Now yeah, I mean they were, but the show was like so much
more popular. But then they wouldget like talked about it. I guess
maybe more like the gossip TV showsor something, but you wouldn't see like
every individual comment that somebody was sayingabout you or something. But they are

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more just like a TV character.You couldn't access them, so they could
kind of just rely on Like Ithink Rondo was like the crazy person and
she was the aggressive one. It'show they labeled it. And then yeah,
Shannon was like I don't think sheeven kissed him from what they showed.
I think they would have showed itif they she had, But like

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it was just like not about whatthe show was about. So these rules,
um so, I didn't really rememberthat. Um So that was kind
of interesting. And then the showwas at a totally different mansion, which
I didn't remember. I just kindof assumed that that mansion had always been
part of bass Raination, the onenow so, um but Chris Harrison,

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you know, he's been there sincethe beginning. At least we have that.
Um One thing I thought was funnywith Alex was when he broke up
with Shannon. They're walking out andhe just kind of she was kind of
storming off, but then he justsays to her, we have to stop
at this bench. And I waslike, oh, yeah, like there's
always a bench there, but younever hear them say like we have to

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stop there, just conveniently located,like when they're breaking up, they usually
sit and stop at a bench.Yeah, that's so true. It's hilarious.
And I love that she like shookhis hand goodbye and then came back.
I was like, you know whatI need, don't know why,
I just tell me why? Right? Yeah, I just have fun,
all right? Have fun? Andthen let's see what did you think of

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the woman he chose Amanda? Hadyou heard anything about her before even knew
that was who he chose. No, I think I knew that they'd never
got engaged, and I think Iknew that they obviously weren't together anymore.
Um, I don't know if Icould have picked her out a crowd.
I thought she was really pretty.I was genuinely shocked at how openly they

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were discussing sex at this point,right, and how I like, I
wonder what people's reactions were to himsaying that, you know, she's sexually
adventurous, and her saying how shehad a trapeze at home, and you
know, all this stuff because Ifeel like some of the women have gotten

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vilified for a lot less than that, and I hope that people accepted them
with open arms and their preferences.You know, I don't think that would
have been the case. I don'tknow it was the case. I think
it was a lot of like,well, I didn't like really mad that,
like Tristo was like the whole song, like the one taking care of
him when he was sick, andlike seemed like the wife material and just

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like America's sweetheart. So I thinkI remember it was like people being upset
that he picked someone so much younger. You know, she was twenty four,
I think, which we don't betan eye at now, but as
part of his cast was he andhe was thirty one. I think Tristo
was a little closer in age tohim, and just that it was like,

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oh yeah, he just you know, wasn't really serious about getting married
and just picked someone that he youknow, just picked the young one,
you know. I think it waslike a lot of that, and that's
why like the outroar about Trista hadto be like she has to like get
a second chance kind of thing,right, interesting. Yeah, um,
that's that's interesting and I could seewhy that would be the case. But

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god, it makes me sad because, yeah, you look at it now,
it's like, oh, this isnothing like this was just like it
was great that there she was openabout it. Yeah, they can get
to know each other better and yeah, and it seemed like, you know,
she didn't have any regrets either,like she was like still kept in
touch with him and seemed to bedoing really well. So yeah, it's

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just funny to look back at likewhat was seen as like kind of like
not scandalous but just like risque backthen. Yeah, or even I my
jaw dropped at a couple of themoments, and one of those was when
they witnessed the fantasy suite and thenwe saw like this weird night cam and
we saw this like polaroid of herwith chocolate all over her face. Yeah,

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she went into the bathroom and thenhe had a plastic sheet she said
chocolate, caramel and ice cream.So yeah, we got a little more
like scandalous details there. Um.Yeah, they wouldn't. I don't know.
But then there was like Andrew Firestoneseason. I feel like it was
when they had like sound effects ormaybe I'm mixing that up with Joe Millionaire.

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Yeah. Thanks. I feel likethey like sometimes they show like they're
outside the door or something. Yeah, sometimes they're just like more tasteful about
it. Um. Let's see whatelse stood out to me on this with
this first one. A line thatI wrote down that was that was so
funny. It was like he hadsaid before he went in and met like

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joined the cocktail party, I don'twant them to be let down by the
reality of who I am. AndI was just like, yeah, I
mean like all men right. Um. And then I remember the line that
Risa said, I'm in like butI'm not in love was kind of like
like I kind at the time,I feel like you never heard something like

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that, Um, but now youwould never hear someone admit that when they're
in the final two. Yeah.So I don't think she really wanted to
be picked and noneil Lane. Itwas like he went to a jewelry store,
Yeah, and they still picked outthe engagement ring and everything for it

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to not even be Do you thinkyou're okay. Do you think if they
would have even showed, if theyhadn't showed the engagement room ring picking,
that ended up being inconsequential that wewould have to end every season with an
engagement m hmm. I mean Ithink that's like what they like. They
always like they teased at the beginning, like will will he propose? Will

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she accept? So I think theyhad that from the beginning, um,
but he just sort of didn't wantto commit to that and so like he
went along along with the like Okay, I'll hold it out and like I'm
gonna give you this, I'm gonnahang on to it, you know.
But we saw a lot more ofthose kind of seasons in the past,

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Like he kind of allowed that tohappen. I think maybe that's what they
were really upset about back was thatbecause I think season two he did propose
and then he kind of became likethe Golden boy Bachelor. Then from that
point right right, let's see,we had Demi and Nicole on to talk

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about fashion faux pa. What didyou think of that segment? I mean,
did we need this? It wasso short? It was like why
do we need Like can we justcatch up with them instead. Yeah,
I don't know. And then again, like I've complained about it before,
like certain people that he catches upwith, he'll like find out stuff that's

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going on in their life. Likewe got a lot from Shannon, but
I feel like she had to kindof wedge it in like she was smart
about it. She was like,hey, like can I get my husband
in here and on the spot?Can I get an invitation to the mansion?
Like can you give me something?So much? But with Ronda and
Lenise, he didn't really ask themanything about how they're doing now. It

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was just like, hey, youguys were on the show. Tell us
about that. Oh um, Yeah, I think this fashion kind of spoke
for itself throughout. So let's see. Then we had Trista's season. What
did you think of her season?I felt I felt like we got a

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little short change with her season.It didn't seem like we got a lot
of depth or um a lot ofknowledge of what kind of went on.
Yeah, I thought the balance wasweird. I thought it would be the
other way around, that they wouldbarely show anything of Alex Michelle because he
wasn't on there, and that we'dsee a lot more with Tristam. Again,

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maybe it's just to be like nicerto trist Um and Nat show everything,
not that there was much. Imean, she was I think admittedly
like kind of more conservative, likeshe was really worried what people would think
of her. So even like BobGuinney who got to like top like top
six, I want to say,or like right before then, she didn't

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even kiss him. So it wasjust kind of different, like there maybe
wasn't enough drama to show m WhenBob Guiney stepped out of a lemmo,
I pointed to him and said toEthan that guy, that guy was a
bachelor too, and he was like, I'm sorry, yeah, and I
say yeah, and he's the guywho f the most. Yeah I was

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the bachelor. And Ethan went,I'm sorry, yeah, the running man
didn't do it? Where him?I don't you know what, I don't
know well, And then you lookat it and you saw who a runner
up was, Charlie, Like howdid they not pick him? Like I
don't understand well, and like duringthe show I was kind of like on

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him, but in their little ketchup with him, I thought he was
really fun. Yeah, I likedit a lot, honestly. Yeah,
well, I think like on theshow, it was definitely edited that everyone
thought he was gonna get picked,and he kind of said that too,
like America thought he was gonna getpicked. He thought he was gonna get
picked because they didn't really show alot of what they just showed Ryan like

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giving her poems, and the poemslike she loved them, but they were
pretty lame. So when she wouldtalk about like he's to have the most
physical chemistry with so I don't know, I just I don't seem like he
would have been the choice to bethe next Patcher. But I think what
happened was that they weren't really thinkingof even choosing from that pool anyway.

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But they got tons of letters becausepeople loved Bob Guinea and I didn't get
it, but that was like howthey started the show, was like that
women are cry s America were demandingthat he'd be the bachelor. So interesting.
Yeah, like back then, peoplewrote letters, sent in tapes,
send in like physical tapes. Yeah, And I think they used to do

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like catch ups with a lot ofthe women that were on the season the
year before or like, and theywould all have like gotten engaged like within
that next year. It was likeit was strange, like yeah, like
now I'm happily with a boyfriend andand now like people, they're not really
on the show for that, butback then it worked out for them in
some way. So yeah, umwhat did she think of the segment they

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showed of the Greg I think hisname was in New York. I felt
really bad for him name. Iwas like, she was like, I'm
not trying to be superficial, andhers just like, oh, well,
like who Luckily he moved out ofit on apartment like moved into an old
apartment and it was like the NewYork expensive like or like like this like

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sorry, like he's got a studio, Like what do you You're a shame
him for not having like a mansionin New York, Like what do you
want from this dude? She triesbest. Let's not let's not apartment shame
people, right, Not everyone canafford a full bedroom in New York City
exactly. I think it was funnytoo that that was just kind of like
the hometown date. It was like, Okay, we're just go in the

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apartment. Yeah, and like nowonder people rent houses now for their family
and pretend that was their childhood home, like when they got like when poor
Greg got shame for his one likehis studio. Well, I just think
like too, like if I'm likerushing off to pack and I don't always
have like my apartment looking the bestwhen I leave for a trip or something,

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so then they're like, oh,yeah, now we're going to stop
at your place, okay, Likeyeah, listen, I I cleaned the
kitchen counter every single day because bythe time I go to bed at night,
it does not look like the wayI left it, right, So
you can't blame this dude man,like where you it probably has no storage
options. No, look like youhad to keep his bike in the kitchen

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there was Yeah, what was shelike? So is there a bedroom and
there's a bed sitting right there.She's like like, no, this is
this is the bed. It's astudio, that's what it means. So
I kind of wanted him to getto redeem himself by coming on, but
I don't. I didn't remember himat all. And then yeah, it

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was really kind of about the finaltwo because there wasn't really any kind of
strong contenders there and Tristo was alittle more obvious too, about like she
wasn't making out with everybody, soyou didn't like how you have now where
you just kind of think like,yeah, okay could go these different ways,
and even now we can sort oftell like eliminate most of the people
at the beginning. So so thatwas definitely the case. Like you remember

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it being like, Okay, it'seither this guy or this guy. Yeah,
yeah, pretty much. Well thenyou saw like even that guy Jamie,
like she would talk about, ohyeah, he's a good looking he's
a looker, but then he wantedto kiss her and she was just like
okay, yeah on the cheek,be like well yeah, she didn't say
that to Ryan, you know,so if either these two ran and Charlie.

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But yeah, I thought it wascool that they got to talk to
Charlie. I was surprised they didn'ttalk to Bob just because he was the
bachelor. They didn't really show muchof him, see, and I don't
think they pulled up anyone else fromher season. But it was cool that
they got to catch up with althoughyou know, they just talked to Trista
and there was some guy that wantedto confront her so weird? Did you

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think it was going to be anyonebut Ryan? Like initially I was like,
oh, I wonder who that wouldbe, Like I thought it'd be
something funny, like maybe that guythat had that studio apartment would be like
hey, like this was expensive orwhatever, and just kind of like the
last But then as it got tolike, okay, I know Ryan's showing
up and there's not many minutes lefton this show, I was like,
oh, I'm just gonna be Ryan, Like I saw that, like he

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wasn't there. Then I put ittogether, but not right away. I
don't know why I like keep buyinginto any of these stupid teachers because they're
nothing, but I wanted there tobe something there. And yeah, what
about the segment with Cassie, Imean, what a waste of everyone's time?
Did they say anything? Did theyscream what they were going to talk

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about with her before doing this orwhat? Apparently she released a post too
that she was really mad that allthey showed was her talking about the breakup,
and I feel like she didn't evensay anything about the breakup, so
that they edited out whatever else shetalked about, and she wanted to be
there to talk about other things.So sorry, Cass, that's not where
you Yeah yeah, so yeah,I feel like I learned nothing. But

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yeah, none of these segments earlydoing it for me. So yeah,
anything else you want to say aboutthese these two seasons or her wedding wedding
was not officiated by Chris Harrison.No, I I I'm glad when you
got to see a little bit ofthe wedding that was cute and fun.
Um. I just I really likedseeing these I liked going back. Did

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they make you wish that either partof this was extended, like was the
full three hours? Or you happythat it was they put it in one
You know, I think they coveredkind of enough like that you kind of
got a feel for since there wasn'tas much drama or anything like that,
it just gave a taste of howmuch like the vibe of the show back

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then, you know, like youkind of tell like we still got like
kind of an extended segment with Shannonand which I had forgotten about her.
So it just kind of brought backsome of those memories for me for watching
it, so kind of like,okay, what it felt like back then.
But I don't think we needed liketo follow the whole story because there
wasn't really like they weren't creating thoselike the dramatic stories that they are now.

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They had like story producers like theydo know, So yeah, what
about you, I don't know.I think I'm I think I'm happy that
they put it all in in oneepisode, But I just kind of feel
like we missed a little bit fromTristam. I feel like we can get
quite as much from her as maybeI would have liked. Thinking back,

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like I think like sometimes like thefamily visits were a little more memorable,
Like I remember, like her itwas a really big deal that U Ryan
asked her dad for permission. Thatkind of has set the stage for like
that happening all the time now,and that was just like they didn't show
that, and that was kind oflike the turning point for her, I
think, and like knowing that shewanted him and so that would have been

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something good to include. I think, like some of those early meeting the
parents type things interesting. But yeah, I think, and then in two
weeks we're having Brad and he hastwo seasons. I think that'll be good
too, to kind of combine those, because like with Joe Joe's, it
just got a little long. JoeJoe bends, like we felt like,

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yeah, okay for three hours isa little much. So I think that'll
be good. Yes, I amreally looking forward to that. I have
not seen either of Brad seasons,and uh, obviously they are they are
in the hallowed halls of bachelor lore, so I'm really excited to get into
that. Yeah. And I sawa small glimpse of Christie from Labor of

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Love in the preview for the firstBrad season. Oh amazing, circle it
will own it. Oh, Iforgot a brow that. Oh my gosh.
I don't know if they'll show anyof like we're actually speaking, but
you know she'll be in the field. I'm so it totally makes sense that

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where we've been doing these combination podcasts. Although there was no Labor of Love
episode this week, so there wasnot no so sorry, so sorry for
everyone to have to miss out onthat this week. I think it's kind
of a weird choice for them tonot keep up the momentum a little bit,
like I think people might forget thatthe show exists if they have been
watching. So I hope people pickit back up that had been But we

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do have questions about this Goat episode. Gary Hogan wants to know, is
there a reason why everyone's suits lookedtoo big for them on last night's episode?
That was just the style then,right, Like look at some of
the NBA drafts from around then andit's the most insane suits like skinny jeans

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were not a thing like for women, like no, you had to flare.
I've got to say the first night, I thought the women's dresses were
pretty world so the most were reallynice. I think there's only one or
two that I thought was egregiously earlyodds. For the most part, you're
all very like simple and clean,and I think that kind of style is

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back in now. I think whatstood out to me was like when they
were on their dates or group dates, they were just kind of wearing their
normal clothes. They weren't trying todress up in any way. I looked
stylish and seemed like yeah, Ithink it was just like throwing a suit
you don't get a tailored strange umdoesn't find very What's the more regrettable fashion

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choice Chris Harrison's oversized brown suit yellowshirt combo. He wore during Night one
of Alex's season, or everything UndersizedRobbie wore during show Joe's season. I
gotta go over oversized. I thinkthat's worse. Yeah, it just doesn't
hold up at all. Justin alsowants to know it did Alex to really

(26:56):
pick Amanda because he thought he couldbe she could be his wife? Or
did you pick her because he wantedto experience an adventurous night on a trapeze?
I mean the latter for sure,yeah, or the Wonder Woman costume
this like hot twenty four year oldscoming in and like you're not picking her,
Like come on, Yeah, Ihad forgotten too that and they kind

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of showed the clip where she mentionedhe was like, so tell me about
your first marriage. Like I hadforgotten that she was divorced, which was
why I also was like I missedthat big storyline on the show. I
think that she was twenty four andhad they like married someone like I want
to say, like quite a bitolder. But it was just like really
briefly and I was like, wait, that rings about to me now,
so I miss that. I'm goingto a google U. Yeah. So

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she was doing the thing where itwas like, yeah, and he didn't
want me to wear it, andand then yeah, that's just that's could
not have that go to waste?No, for sure not. And then
how many times did Josh Harrison Ihave to hear his father say you never

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forget your first before wishing he neversigned up for this job? I mean
Nike Sikes? Yeah, yes,um? And then have you ever drained
hot cocoa out of a wine glass? Was that a two thousand and three
thing or a thing where bathstot producersspend way too much time thinking about ways
to artificially create a luxury estate.I can't. I can't imagine. I

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hope hot it would be to touchthe wine glass? Yeah, it doesn't
seem like, couldn't shatter. Idon't really know. I would think,
yeah, that was strange. Idon't think it would look that appetizing.
Don't you need double wild glass?Yeah? Yeah. The dates didn't look

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too impressive. I think that wasanother reason why they could combine these two
episodes, like two seasons into oneepisode. That they were not like really
exciting dates, like they went toVegas was like the big thing, so
and it didn't look like there wereany kind of creative entrances too on the
limous because people just walked up.Yeah, yeah, there's okay, this

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is my name? Thanks right?Yeah, well that is it. This
is our like look at us,sure and sweet? You know. Two
episode two seasons one episode one recap. We're just distilling it, condensing it
as much as we can. We'regetting good at this. Yeah. I

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can't think of any other main takeaways. I can't either. I just I
really did enjoy watching it, andI hope we see some more older seasons.
What do you think is on thedocket after Brad? Well, I
wasn ask you do you think Bradis going to show up? Do you
think he's gonna like they're gonna catchup with him? We know what I
would hope. I don't know,like does he have a bad relationship with

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the show? I thought he didafter the first one, but then they
asked him back. So what didthey say? It was like our most
like like the sexiest patch where theycall them or something, which I don't
know. Interesting. Yeah's choice.Um, I feel like he has to
if they're doing like the whole twoepisodes. But maybe they'll just focus on

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the women. Maybe we'll be interestingif you're gonna do one Pablos it seems
like, so I don't think it'sone Pablo gonna show up. Are they
gonna ask one Pablo? Maybe?Yeah, it could be like I'm not
putting anything past anyone, right,And then if Claire is filming, like

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will she get to talk to them? Like I think so look at like
polar Aside, they can probably makeit look like I mean, if you're
skyping in, she can skype infrom her where she's staying or you know,
yeah, we won't really be ableto tell. But as far as
I can have heard, that's stillgoing on. They're still moving forward.
That Yeah, I sounded like sheput a post up that was kind of

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um leaning towards her going away fora while or whatever. M yeah,
so that would be good or tothat. Um. I guess the other
thing that stood out to me withlike, you know, Trista really wanted
like she wanted that fairy tale ending, and a lot of people were hoping
that she picked Charlie at the timejust because I think just more because of

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how it was edited. But whenwe caught up with him, it's like
he just settled down now he haslike a one year or something, so
it kind of proves out that hewas not ready yet. Back then,
it was just like, you know, there were a lot of people that
were on the show that were fordifferent reasons, even though it wasn't like
for social media, but that theycriticized her choice too, but you know,

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her instincts p obviously right or whatwas right for her. And he's
doing well now too. Yeah,it's it's it's really amazing that their fairy
first bachelor ended up marrying the personshe picked at the end, and I
think that's that was pretty important tothe success of the franchise. Yeah,
I think so. I think tobe able to have that because Jason was

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i think the season seven and theydidn't really count that as a success for
a long time and people wouldn't reallyview it as one for a long time.
You know, I had to sortof like fold him in and what
was Sean Lowe season Like, hewas the first one, So to be
able to have something to show thatit can work was important to them.

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Yeah, yeah, for sure.So yeah, I'm excited to see what
they do with Brads. I don'tknow what's going on in a week now.
It's like a country music thing orsomething why they're not having it.
But I think I'm gonna miss iton my Monday night. Yeah, yeah,
I think I am too. I'vebeen enjoying. I've been enjoying doing
this, yeah for sure. Andthis one Yeah moved fairly quickly by having

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them combined two different seasons, Ithink too. So yes, all right,
Well, Haley'll be a little whilebefore we catch up again. Yeah,
we're on vacation next week. Yeah, we'll still watch Labor of Love,
but it won't be enough for afull episode, so we'll just wait
till Brad season to loop those loopthose in. I think that would be

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perfect harmony too, since yes,she was on Brad season exactly, so
I hope she gets a little aline at least that'll be what we have
to look out for. Can't wait? All right, Haley? You well,
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