May 20, 2020 • 49 mins
Amy and Haley discuss how the final three couples fared in Nashville in The Bachelor Presents Listen To Your Heart Finale RHAP-up podcast.
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Hey everybody, and welcome to TheBachelor Presents. Listen to your heart for
a half up or the finale.I'm Amy here as always lovely Haley Strong,
Haley, how are you doing tonight? You know, Amy, I
really really like you, But Ijust don't know if we're at the same
place that Mike Bloom and Rob Sasterninoare at right now, So like,
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I don't know if we could perform. Yeah, it's it's fine, Like,
come on, Haley, we justdon't fake it. I just there.
We don't have to be like them, I know, I know,
but like I just I look atthem and we're just not them, and
I just I don't know, LikeI think you're so great. I just
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I can't. I just can't.I just can't do that. I just
can't do this. This is thefinale. This is the finale of the
show. I know, one moreepisode to cover. I don't know either
of the songs that well, soit's like, do I really want to
bother learning them? I mean,they were more played to my strengths,
I guess, but Rudy Strength,Whitney Houston, mats thing. Oh,
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this was such a letdown. Iwas ding for them. I am so,
so, so incredibly disappointed, andlike, I honestly haven't had this
strong of a reaction watching watching anythingfrom the Bachelor in a very long time.
I was genuinely upset in a wayI never thought I could be about.
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Listen to your heart, right,I know, I was right there
with you. I was just likesettling in to watch you know. I
had it on my DVR, andI was really excited for their performance,
and then this breakup scene it wasdragging on, So then I got my
hopes of that, like, oh, they want to be showing us this
much. If that's all they're gonnadon't happen, They're gonna come back at
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the end or not gonna be something. No, we got a finale with
just two couples. I'm devastated,and we'll get into it. We do
have some news to cover. Yeah, unfortunate nation never sleeps um and well
some people should be sleeping looking atyou. Hannah Brown who on an Instagram
live when she was singing a song, uh saying an incredibly derogatory word that
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no one should say who looks likeus? Why people do not need to
use that word? I don't carewhat your weird little stipulation is that you
think you can you cannot. Idon't care if it's in a song you're
listening to, you skip over thatit's it's it's not our it's not our
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word. UM. And sure youcan say like, oh, well no
one should be using it. Well, you don't have that right to tell
them not to to tell black peoplenot to use it. Um. And
it's gross that we keep having havingto have this conversation UM, that you
cannot use that word. I don'tknow where people have been for the last
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like hundreds of years. Mm hmm. Yeah, So you're disappointing to see
that come out about Hannah UM.And then she had kind of like a
not really like an apology or iskind of denying it at first on the
Live so and then came out witha UM, a more formal apology later
on UM and Yeah. Several membersof VAT Nation have spoken up. UM.
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Rachel lindsay, of course, UM, so so wonderful, so eloquant
eloquent, so just like a magicalwoman talked about why why it's not okay?
Um it is, but it sucksthat she has to be like the
spokesperson like she's in position of blackpeople to tell us why we why white
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people should not be using that word. And I had heard that she had
offered Hannah to come on her platformand Hannah like turned it down or didn't
pick it up, pick her upon that. So yeah, um,
hugely, hugely disappointing. I like, what else is there for us to
say about that? Right? Um? So in lighter news, Um,
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Jane Tanner, baby number three isalready on the way. Yeah, great
for them. That sounds like thatsounds great. Yeah, three babies under
three sounds amazing. Jim Spradlin didit, but I don't know if she
recommended it, but they're really cute. Now, Um, congrats to them
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that it sounds like something that theywanted, So I am very happy with
them. Hopefully she doesn't need togive birth in the closet again, Yeah,
hopefully, or they at least haveoutfitted it well this time. Yeah,
like a little gurnie or or something. It's got it ready to go,
although maybe you know quarantine's still goingon nine months from Nash yike,
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probably six months from now, wellif they live in California and it's been
extended to August it's true, It'strue. So and then, um,
Caitlyn, one of the judges onthis finale, released a single and I
remember hearing her talk about this wayback when. So I think she's been
hanging onto it. Was super nervous, probably felt timing makes sense now why
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not? Um, because she ison the episode, So why wouldn't you
exactly? And um, I thinkit jumped to number one in Canada and
the US. I have yet tolisten to it. I will get around
to it. Music has never beenmy strong suit. Um, but yeah,
good for her, Like, don'tyou remember, yeah, yeah,
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Chris Souls her hometown date for thatseason, She took him to a recording
studio. Oh, I don't rememberthat. Maybe it will be one of
our episodes that we get to can'twait and see? Do you think they'll
go back to Crystals or just skipright to Kaitlyn's season? I don't know.
That's a good question. Well,you know what let's I'm going to
write that on one of these postit notes, is that we're going to
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talk about what seasons we think we'regoing to see in that Okay, what
seasons seasons in coverage and then ifthe season will they show Britt or will
they just like brush past that theydid that they can't not show her this
the Yeah, the premiere like thatwas that was like the thing leaning up
to the season. Yeah, it'sa differentiated for sure. Yeah, but
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then it makes sense to show Crystalseason. Actually person is having a baby
pretty soon? I think, Yeah, there's a lot of babies coming very
very soon. Um, Jennet Cooperis on week thirty nine. I was
lurking my Finsta, which I haven'tdone in a while. Um, it's
basically my Instagram account to follow likethe Bachelor people and MTV people that I
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don't want to follow on my mainaccount. I hadn't been on it in
like five hour and I was lookingthrough it today and there was honestly probably
about five people who are like weekthirty nine and like, can't wait to
meet my Bibey Yeah, oh mygod. I saw a picture of her
today. I was like, oh, yeah, I forgot about this.
M Yeah, who do you thinkis next? I would say Ari Lauren
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will be like another one that willhave another one really yeah, yeah,
I'm into that. Did you seeAri's new hair? That was another story?
Okay, love the grade. Don'tlove the blonde, Okay, I
feel like people are really vibing withthe blonde. Yeah, I think it's
what I like about the Yeah,I really do like that haircut. Um.
Have you had to give your boyfrienda quarantine haircut? Yeah, I
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just seem like the front it didnot do a good job. So I
just relying on product right now,Like I like, this is not like
things are not like a thing thatuhould be for me. Um. I
have cut Ethan's hair Okay. Um. Luckily he's in a he's in a
thing right now where he wants toleave the top long, so I didn't
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have to do any bang cut.Um, but I did have to do
like a feed basically. Um.It turned out much better than I could
have ever expected. Oh, okay, that's good. I saw Charlene had
like a tutorial, and so Ikind of watched that and I was like,
maybe I'll go back and really dothis. But I didn't really want
to commit. It's not like youjust want to kind of go in like
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light first and then decide if youwant to take the next steps exactly.
Luckily my hair, like I don'tneed to do anything to it, just
like, I'll look forward to choppingit off at some point. But yeah,
right at the beginning of Quarantine,but it's completely faded. Yeah,
the fun hair die. That's Ithink you and already have that in common.
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Yeah, we do, and Lauren. Al right, so let's get
back to the episode if we must. Can I tell you a secret about
this episode? Yeah? What isit? Every time I saw the preview,
I thought it was Lauren Bushnell wasrejoining us in Nashville. I was
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shocked tonight to find out that wasJewel. That's so funny. I was
like, Lauren finally, Like wewere kind of mad that she got brushed
over before and like, oh shecomes out. Yeah. It was like
it was Joel was looking good,Jewel looks great. Yeah, I didn't
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think. Yeah, so they arein Nashville. I guess she must be
based there now. She kind ofswitched to more country from folk. Yeah,
it's weird and it's funny. Yesterday, out of nowhere, I was
singing one of my favorite Jewel songs, which is the sad depressing one.
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Um what's it called? Um?She gets up at six AO. Yeah,
feel so far from where you've been? Dreams last for so long even
after you're gone soon we you seeyou remember me for me work? Yeah,
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somebody have gotten that song that wouldhave been good. I want them
to have somebody like sing a songfrom one of the judges yet better.
That'd be fun was Tate Digs inthe original version of Rent. I think
so cool. Oh my god,Okay, okay, hear me out,
hear me out. Wow, missedopportunity. Bring back the whole cast,
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have them sing seasons of Love.That would have been so perfect season the
first season, the winner of thefirst season I'll Listened to Your Heart,
and they're committed, Like I thinkthey think the show will gland because it's
like winner of the first season ofInto your Heart, not winner of Listened
to Your Heart. Yeah, Iwas like big dreams there, so speaking
big dreams, he talks about thatone couple is going to get their dream.
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So we see them arriving to Nashville, and we kind of get a
little check in with each couple,mostly like the guys kind of narrating,
like Trevor talks about the plan isto move to Nashville, um, and
then Chris talking about being in lovewith Bree. I don't know if we
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saw Matt talking about I think hewas. We saw a little bit of
him before then. Um, butthen we get Chris Harrison coming into the
sweet saying that it's all about love, commitment, music. They have to
be they have to check off allthose boxes. Make sure you can check
off all those boxes. Basically saidthat you have to be in love forever,
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kind of what he does on thatBachelor, that dreaded Bachelor in Paradise
stay where half the couples leave.And this made Matt very nervous. So,
um, yeah, okay, Idon't know how long the flight from
Las Vegas to Nashville is. It'scross country ish but not the most cross
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country four hours, right, whywaste your time and come to Nashville.
Here's my thing. I think afterlast week's performance, Matt and Rudy were
on a high, and Matt waslike, you know what, this solidifies
everything and my conspiracy theory, Ihave a tinfoil had a right. So
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the producers pulled Matt aside and said, like, do you love Rudy.
If you do, you should tellher, Like are you falling in love
with Rudy? You need to tellher. You need to tell Rudy that
you love her, because I think, like you need that moment they wanted
or whatever. Yeah, they wantedMatt and Rudy to win, but they
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couldn't give them the win if theyhadn't said I love you or I'm falling
in love with you or whatever.Okay, Yeah, and then that freaked
him out out and he had toleave. And I'm guessing that they probably
still didn't want them to leave.Like that probably messed up. You know.
It seems weird to gather all thesepeople for like a big finale show
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and for four songs. Yeah,for four songs and only two couples,
Like, oh, they just tryto flip a coin who's gonna win?
Like there's really no like there wasno suspense there. I had another thought
that maybe he didn't want to getlike I think definitely like hearing Chris Harrison
kind of put it in perspective freakedhim out about like what the contract would
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be like if he has to performwith Rudy and if he's not there,
and it's like, oh, Idon't want to play as if we're madly
in love for a whole year aswe go on tour or something and that
became more realistic that they might win. I thought it was weird to like
leave, yeah, right when youhit the ground in Nashville, why not
like go on the date, um, hang out, the conversation of practice
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the songs you're feeling with you.But I really really like you, and
I don't want to end this andthen take you to win if sames he's
not in love, so like,let's just sing we we are robbed of
hearing ready sing Winnie Houston, whichis incredibly rude. Yeah, I guess
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she did a little excerpt of thatsong on her Instagram today. She did
it. It was magical. Yeah, So I did get a little choked
up when I saw him in thecar, saying like that's the part he
was most upset about that he tookthat away from her. It obviously seemed
very like difficult decision. Um,but it's just so upsetting, Like it's
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just I wouldn't have to be thisway. I was. I was genuinely
so mad, and I was likeI did not believe they weren't in the
finale show until he was in thesuv, and even then I was like,
well, maybe he'll stay stop stop. Yeah, I I truly did
not believe it. The Bachelor hasnot brought something else like this and me
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in a very long time, andI did not expect it to come from
Lessen to your Heart. The show, we didn't even think we were going
to watch right well, and thenthe preview also I showed Rudy being really
upset, so I'm like, oh, it's not like going to be that
bad, and it just really justwas that it's like too late for someone
to leave at this point. WouldRhyman and Natasha have done this, No,
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they would have gotten married on stage, legally binded together to win this
show, and I believe that,yeah, they would have done anything.
It's terrible, terrible And also Mattlike you couldn't put on a better shirt
to break up with Rudy in likethat's what the kids in high school used
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to go smoke weed. And atluncheon it was like half like plaid hals,
like sweatshirt jackets. Yeah. Yeah, we had like ten minutes of
him just pacing in the hallway ofthe hotel. He was like having a
break. I hope he had likea great chat with the onset therapist after
because like he and I'm not sayingthat in like a mean way, like
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I really hope he found like closurethat he needed, because this was obviously
like a very weird and stressful scenariofor him because he just clearly had no
idea what he was getting into becominga becoming a member of the Bachelor franchise.
Well, and then I was thinking, like, Okay, is he
one of those guys that had somethingkind of going on back home? And
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it's like, Okay, I don'twant to like drag this out anymore,
because he was like breaking up withher too. It wasn't like we're not
there yet. It was like,I hope you know how much I care
about you will be bonded for therest of our lives. But it wasn't
like, you know, I wantto see where this goes, but just
not beyond this finale, you know, like it just felt like it was
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just done. But apparently he likethey're kind of seeing each other a long
distance. Okay, I didn't seean update on that. I read it
somewhere and then I guess Natasha andRyan are also just taking it day by
days, you know. Okay,guys, Yeah, See and Jamie have
broken up already. Can you believethat. I don't. Um no,
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it's not a shock. But Ididn't see that. So I didn't get
the latest updates yet. But Icould kind of tell based on their instagrams
that they're he did not move toNashville. M h um yeah um Jamie
and Trevor Um. Yeah, thisepisode, he just it was it was.
It was weird with them. Iwas really just hoping they weren't going
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to win. Honestly, Um,I just didn't see how they could.
I did not think the performance waslike good. I didn't either. I
didn't like the arrangement, like itwasn't totally their fault on the first song.
Um, but just wished Jamie wouldstop touching his face while she's singing.
Yeah, in this it's hard becausewe saw in this episode Judge Rita
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Wilson, who I'd say about amonth after this was filmed, announced that
she had coronavirus. Yeah. Ididn't put the timing together, but yeah,
and all the face touching is justlike we were living in a timeline
in which we're just not touching eachother's faces that much. Yeah, just
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fine. Yeah, so it doesn'tdoesn't read so well even more it's weird.
Yeah, but they um find theremaining two couples, Well, how
do you think about how they reactedto Um, Matt and Rudy leaving?
Okay, okay, um, Brie, you lovely little snake. I love
you so much. Oh my god. She knew okay, I believed Bree
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was genuine, but she knew thatRudy, Rudy and Matt were her competition.
And when Matt's like, I needto leave, She's like, whatever
makes you happy is what makes mehappy. Making me happy is winning and
without you guys, I'll do that. Thank you right right? Yeah,
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Like I'm so happy for you guysthat you broke up and I'm leaving the
competition. What Yeah. Yeah,Jamie was clearly very upset. She loves
Rudy. Jamie is also very clearlytwenty one years old. No, stay
like this. That is you know, when I was in university first year
and we found out that like oneof our roommates was for one of our
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you know, bunk whatever it wascalled residence, mats was like dropping out
halfway through the year, moving home. You're just like, no, I
love you, like, don't everleave. And then you're like I'll never
talk to you again. Sorry.Yeah, so m Rudy tells Jamie to
go and win it for her,so they're obviously very close. I didn't
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pan out, but she did getthe fantasy suite, and it looked like
the date was already in the fantasysuite and they just have to go upstairs,
like why did they need a key? And also, jumping just ahead,
Breed did not take the fantasy sweetdate, so I assumed that they
went back to the suite that theywere all sharing with each other, but
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no one else was there, sowas it just a fantasy? Like,
oh my god? And was thislike the night before, because then I
think they're smart for turning it downjust to be like, no, we
got to relax before the fire performance. Yeah, i'd stay up Homefie.
Yeah. And I don't know iflady in the tramping a donut is like
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great for your vocal courts, butI am not a professionally trained singer,
right, maybe not the best thingto have the day before or morning after.
And then Chris and Brees's date likejust ended right after they had decide,
noting it was just like okay,yeah, they can just finish their
dinner. Okay, So yeah,why didn't they at least take it to
hang on talk. I think becausethis is me making a huge assumption.
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Bree is from Utah. Utah hasa very large Mormon and religious population.
I would think that she doesn't wantlike I think she understands. Yeah what
life system, Yeah what a fantasysuite implies. And I don't think she
wanted that on her right, right, Yeah that makes sense. Uh.
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And Chris took it super well andhe was happy. And then they tried,
like the like the show tried tomake it make it seem like it
became an issue between them, whenI don't know, it never it just
seemed like Chris was just kind oflike himself. Yeah. We never saw
Chris in an IM saying anything aboutany problems. Was just free saying like
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something's changed, like I can feelit or whatever. Yeah, what if
she was just talking about their musicalchemistry or because they had a bad rehearsal.
Didn't really seem like, I don'tknow, it didn't seem like it
became anything. Yeah, Like,show me the rest of the rehearsals with
everyone, and you can't tell methey were great. One percent of the
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time, right, um? Oh. On the Fantasy Suite with Trevor and
Jamie, Trevor says, I feellike I've already won. Was he just
setting her up? Like, oh, we're probably yeah? I don't believe
anything. Trevor says, yeah,yeah, Um, then let's see we
get to the show. I don'tremember what what venue it was, but
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it's fairly large. Venue's are Ifeel like I would have remembered if it
was. Yeah, No, itwasn't that look more modern? Um?
When they first show the audience feelingin, it's like all twenty something with
it, Like I was surprised toget any guys in the audience, but
eventually they did. People were prettyhype. See Chris Harrison shown up in
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a tux. You know what,I would love to say that wouldn't be
me, but if I went tothis Bachelor concert and Chris Harrison came out,
I would be whoop whooping along.Yeah. I hate to say it,
but I probably would too. Probablya lot of that those clips that
they cut to have people cheering forthe performances was probably the Chris Harrison footage
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because they're the most enthusiastic. Yeah, or the judges the Bachelor Royalty,
Caitlin and Jason. Does Jason clothaias royalty already or is it just Caitlyn.
No, You're welcome Jason for beingwith Caitlin. That is the only
reason I got invited to this.I like seeing them. I'd like Jason,
I like Caitlin. They're cute together. I hope they have a long
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life of happiness and wonderfulness together.And I love Jason Sue. Yeah,
he kind of rocked that back whenhe was on the show too. I
think that Navy. Yeah, yeah, maybe it's the same one. Ethan
pointed out that almost every woman atthe finale was wearing some sort of black
seed Rita Wilson looked like twins.Like their hair was the same. They
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had like yeah sequins, um yeah. Even the performers right, like ye,
Jamie, what is the wardrobe deploymentdoing? Because they were responsible for
all of this, I don't know. And they couldn't have fit Jamie for
a better bra. See what Iwas wondering is like, was she going
to old school like the wonder bra? Like because she's like it was like
she's sinching thing. She is beautifuland gorgeous and talented and has a rock
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and bod. I just feel likeshe could have had more support in more
ways than we yep. Um,so let's see who else we had.
We had Taed Eggs and Jewel.As we mentioned before, how did you
feel about this panel? A littlemore supersized of a panel? Yeah?
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Um, yeah, I was excitedabout Jewel. I like Jewel Diggs is,
like, you know, he's great. Does Jamie know who t Diggs
is? Does Jamie know who Jewelis? Um? I think she might
know who Jewel is? Have youever heard of Rita Wilson song? No?
But then I heard that she wrotethe song, helped write the songs
for that Thing You Do? AndI have watched that movie, so I
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have heard those songs. Is thatthe one she had four albums? Is
that the one about a one hitwonder or something? Yeah? Yeah,
I have not watched it yet.Maybe I'll get there. Yeah, it's
like takes place in the fiftiest TomHanks movie. Mhm, um, let's
see. Yeah, I was excited. I guess like the one thing Caitlin
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could have done is if she hadher single ready to go, then Chris
could have announced it that she alsois a recording artist, that maybe yeah,
given her the most cred as soas far as the song assignments,
we have Jamie Trevor got Unchained Melodyby the Righteous Brothers and Speechless Speechless by
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Dan and Shae, which I don'treally know them, but I've heard that
song. It is okay. Itis one of the most boring songs I
have ever heard in my entire life. And when I heard they got Unchained
Melody, I was like, no, please, don't do that to the
song. Please. Yeah. Yeah, I think it was a rough choice
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for them. And then they didthat to that song. Yeah exactly.
Yeah, that was my least favoriteperformance of the night for sure. I
did not like the arrangement and yeah, I just I didn't really have anything
possive to say about it. Butthe judges did. They seem to they
have to, Yeah, you haveto make it look like there's a fight,
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but it was just yeah, nocontest. Christen Bree got make You
Feel My Love. Um, sothey had said Bob Dylan, but then
the paper said Adele so she muststart done a cover of it and then
give me Love by ed cheering.And now that that song like that performance
gave me chills and I love Ilove the choir, and I love like
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the big string instruments. Like,I thought that was a really wonderful performance
and I'm happy that's like what weended the season on. Mhmm, yeah
for sure, and what we're Rudyand Matt's songs, So they were gonna
have saving All My Love for Youby Whitney Houston and It's Your Love by
Tim mcgrand faith Hill. I don'tknow if I know that one. Yeah,
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I don't. I don't think Iknow that one either, but I
think it's um like a legit duetbetween the two. Yeah, so that
would probably I don't know. Wehaven't really seen them do like a slower
ballad, so that would have beennice to see. I think, like
a more subdued song. Um.Yeah, I just felt like the second
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part, just of the performances,I was still like reeling from disappointment.
But did you have any doubt thatBring and Chris we're gonna take this?
Yeah? I did have doubt.I was worried. It's just like because
I feel like we we really didn'tsee that much of Chris and Bree.
I feel like Trevor and Jamie wereso much the story that I was like,
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oh my god, what if theywin? And then I would have
called collusion because their performance was significantlyworse than Chris and Brees, right,
like significant and noticeable. Yeah,and even in the praise that they got
at the end, like paydegg thing, I would pay money to hear you
sing, and Jason Chris is justoh my god, his voice is like
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velvet to the ears, and Ithink Breez's voice just plays off it really
nicely, where I don't Whenever Juliusstarts off the song, I like where
she's going, and then as soonas Trevor come sen it like throws her
off. She can't seem to recover, right, Yeah. So and then
Jason said something like the world needsto hear more of you. So it's
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just kind of like, Okay,they're giving away even in their comments,
whereas the comments to Genie and Trevormore like, oh, you guys are
so cute, like did you goto the fantasy sweet you know, like,
oh, you're so cute together.Maybe uncomfy, but I'm a prude.
I have a kissing in the middleof a song. Yeah, I
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don't want to hear like Caitlin's like, oh, like, do you guys
have fantasy sweet dates? Have youbeen there yet? It sounds seems like
you're gonna go there soon. Yeah, I don't need to hear about their
sex capades. I guess that's whythey have to have a Bachelor Nation couple
on every judge's because that otherwise whywould that come up. So um,
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they are announced as the winner,they get to go on their little tour
bus at the end, and thenI just kind of, you know,
closes out with that. It waskind of like kind of low fanfare.
Then we see it gave us alittle update and they gave us like a
singing in studio session, which wassuper cute. I enjoyed seeing that.
Yeah, so they did get Theymust have got started right away, which
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is good. Apparently the album's alreadyout. I think it's ten songs,
like five originals that they and fivecovers the ones that they did on the
show. And yeah, said Greenand Chris are still deeply in love today
and look forward to their debut album. So yeah, it's already for them
there. Yeah, I think thesecrazy kids can make it. I hope.
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So Yeah, it didn't seem likethere are any issues aside from that
unexplained little glitch that was going onthe night or the morning of that rehearsal.
So yeah, let's get to ouraudience questions, because I feel like
those will if there's anything we missed, they always will bring it up,
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so we'll get it covered. Um, Gary Hogan, the question is also
on my mind, Hayley, willwe see a season two someday? This
is tough. Um, I don'tthink they got good numbers, and that's
when there's literally nothing else to watch, right, that's pretty damning, I
would say. But they were goingto bring back Winter Games since as Summer
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Games. Yeah at one point,so, and I don't think that was
huge success. No, yeah,I would absolutely watch a second season.
I do think there needs to besome changes. Um. Yeah, I
would like to see more people around. I mean, look what happened now
that they had They put so muchpressure on them that we only had four
(31:42):
people in the finale, Like,I'm sure they would have rather had more
contestants like and I would have likedto see more people stick around, maybe
switch up the couples. Yeah,I wrote I wrote a blog post today.
I'm going to post it tomorrow sowhen it goes out, So when
this podcast past goes up, it'llprobably be up. So one of my
(32:04):
ideas to make this show better wasjust instead of having an uneven number of
people at the beginning and bringing acouple of people in, have everyone there
from the beginning and start their performancesthat week. Everyone has to pair up.
Yeah, and I think some pairscould get voted out by judges or
(32:27):
the other people whatever, and there'smore agency to switch up couples if you're
findings and imbalance, like more girlsand guys. Would you have like a
couple like where they do like twodifferent pairings and try it out, baby,
But I would say, don't evenhave an imbalance, just make them
match up. Yeah, yeah,create those triangles. Yeah, and have
(32:51):
a performance every week. Because Ithink I think you might agree with me,
is that the first two episodes ofthe season were the worst ones and
there was no performance to it.So you know, there was how many
people that we didn't even get tosee sing? Yeah, so many that
didn't here speak. Yeah. Iwould have loved. I would have loved
(33:13):
if everyone had a chance to performand if the first two weeks are three
dates states yeah, oh states whatever, singing dates. Yeah. So I
would just like to see a littlebit more from everyone and have less pressure
in that, like if you're notcurrently in a solid couple, you must
(33:34):
go. Yeah. I don't liketo see that drama kind of caused by
like, Okay, a solid couplebut the judges can't, or someone that
isn't a solid couple, but theyperform awesome together just like buy into it,
right, Natasha, Like that causesdrama too if people are like,
oh, they don't even really likeeach other, yeah, serious, but
they stay in longer than someone elsethat was like a real couple, but
(33:58):
they just don't sound good together.So I would like to see that,
Like why do we have to likegive it away to the judges and say
like, oh, yeah, we'reso in love. We told each other
we love you. Like it shouldbe like just watch the performance and decide
on their chemistry. Yeah, exactly. And you don't know if like performing
together could lead to more chemistry becauseit because the show feels more like a
(34:20):
game, I think that they reallyshould direct themselves more towards a Bachelor Pad
format rather than a Bachelor in Paradiseformat, So yes, have a couple
go home at the end of everyepisode, have two couples go home.
I don't care, Let's see everyone. Let's like, you know, in
Bachelor Pad, they could switch uptheir couples. They didn't have to stay
(34:40):
in the same couple the entire time. One of my favorite rollments in the
season was when half of a couplewas forced to go on a date with
somebody that they didn't necessarily want tobe with, and it didn't totally work
out for most of the couples,but they're It was that a little spark
group drama with Julia and Brandon andI would I would have loved if halfway
(35:06):
through the season everyone had to performwith somebody different. Would be so good.
Even if they're like so solid,it's like, Nope, you've got
to perform with this other person,because then it takes them away from that
person too. It's like they couldcause drama by like, oh, they're
not even spending time with me inthe house because we've got to go rehearse,
you know. Yeah. So Ithink those are two, two or
a couple of things that would reallyhelp the next season. If there is
(35:30):
one. Yeah, I mean Trevoreven said something like it was really corny,
but it was like, oh,I felt like I could be open
with her because she heard me sing, so she's already seen my soul.
Like, if that's how they're feeling, then it's like, yeah, make
them sing together right away. Ifthat's what connects them, then they're going
to open up more early on,Justin Feinberg, if you're part of vast
(35:50):
nation, like Jamie is quoting ChrisHarrison, is this Chris Harrison's way of
subtly alerting the audience that Jamie's theonly person in the entire cast who has
seen an episode of the show before. It felt like it, Yeah,
I felt like Rudy kind of knewwhat was going on, but yeah,
probably not to the same extent ordidn't want to admit it smartly. And
(36:10):
then is the show trying to tellus that bringing Chris nearly lost because they've
practiced and rehearsed in the morning,while Jamie and Trevor nearly won because they
spent the morning Lady in a trampingthe donut. And then let's see,
oh I think it cut off thesecond part. Yeah, sorry, um,
follow up, if Hailey decides topodcast about The Bachelor the Greatest Seasons
(36:31):
Ever, well, she spend moretime taking notes on this season she hasn't
seen before, or a lady inthe tramping a donut with Ethan while the
episode airs two things justin, Ihaven't taken a note for this podcast since
twenty twenty fourteen. Second and all, do you think i'd share a donut
(36:52):
with anyone? Good point. Ialso think they're going to focus a lot
of the seasons on ones you actuallyhave seen, Like, I don't think
they're going too deep in the onlyway I share a donut is if we
go get like a three pack ofdonuts and we cut them all in half,
try all of the kinds. Yeah, I have to try everything.
I have one donut. I amnot sharing my one donut. Yeah,
(37:14):
and maybe share like what are thosecalled, like the long John's like where
they are like two donuts and oneyeah, yeah, it doesn't even like
whip cream. So I get toeat those by myself. Nice or a
beaver tail as you know, Ohyeah, love me a beaver tail.
And then let's see. Then wehave a comment on that question. Michelle
Durkin says that was gross and Ihave a very low bar. I watched
(37:36):
the show after all, and thenjustin Fineberry, are you more likely to
listen to Chris and Bree's debut albumtitled Chris and Bree, Rudy's new single
hate La, or Jamie's new singlego to Your Head? Or well?
Michael Todd's Hot Touds remain the mostsuccessful piece of original music produced by this
cast. I forgot about Michael.Oh god, can you Evenmago? We
(38:00):
had him for more of the season. Can you eight performance with him?
We are we have been robbed,We really were. Make sure they should
have to be in front of suberyjudges right away? Yeah, see you
who can to handle it? Yeah? And then they'll get more motivated to
like, oh, this is likelegit. We could win something like give
them the stakes right away. Althoughnow if there is a season two,
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they know what the winning couple getsthat there is a winning couple, so
maybe they would get more people dowant to fake it? We'll see and
then just a five, Marik.Since Jamie and Trevor are broken up,
now will Jamie appear on five consecutiveseasons then retire from the Bachelor franchise at
the age of twenty seven, makingus all feel old in the process.
And de Trevor, I really findhimself falling in love with Jamie or let's
(38:45):
see this one got cut off too. Did he find himself falling in love
with the idea of getting to thefantasy suite with a twenty one year old?
Yeah? Sorry, my bad.I just was being lazy tonight and
copy and pasted the entire Facebook readwithout without over. Yeah. I hope
you guys like Jamie because we willbe seeing here for and I mean this
(39:08):
years to come. Yeah. Yeah, and I think they like she would
have been even too young for Coultonseason. I feel like when that was
airing, so, um, dependingwhom the Bachelor is going to be next,
like she could have been on Peter'sseason, would have fit in there.
(39:29):
But yeah, this might have beensomebody that was like applying for the
Batchel already. Um, somebody theywant to have in their casting lists at
all times. So yeah, Bacheloron Paradise whenever it comes back another Bachelor's
season, who knows? And thenwhat was really up with Matt and Rudy
quitting? This is from Michelle towork and also could it really have been
(39:51):
because there was not true love aftera few weeks. To me, that's
crazy. Trevor should have schooled Matton how to fake it, h yeah,
or taken like classes from Natasha andRyan right, like just focus on
the performance side of things, likegetting they didn't even know who the judges
were going to be, Like whoknows what you're missing out on or what
(40:12):
kind of dates they might have gottenin Nashville. They could have got that
cool city dates that we like andjust just see like you can bow out
like some other time. Maybe youdidn't want to look like a jerk,
like after the fantasy sweet date orsomething. But I really think to not
let Rudy perform and not just theycould have been honest stuff there, Like
she said, we don't fake it. They can say like we haven't said
(40:35):
I love you yet, the judgesaren't going to pick you, you know,
so then you don't have to worryabout it. Alis Enjoy not really
questioned, But I cannot stand theway they made it seem like being christ
were fighting, You're not going tomake it. They must have just spliced
together random audio eclipse. Yeah,I don't know what the scoop was because
they seem just fine, right.Yeah, I'm still confused by that,
(40:57):
and they're fine now apparently, soI guess the right couple did win.
Um, it's good for them.But yeah, I just wish we had
a little more drama, real dramain this finale. I did have one
question from Emily Scher. She textedit to me, but now I can't
seem to find it U. Soyeah, if you want to text your
(41:19):
questions to me, you can.I will not give you my number mons
your Yeah, so you know whoyou are if you have that privilege.
Oh god, oh here it is. Who? Who would you have wanted
to see on Bash on Paradise?Okay? I like Matt and Rudy a
lot, but I would have beenbummed out to see them, like not
(41:40):
be together. But maybe they wouldgo to Backsha on Paradise and get back
together or if they that's Matt scene. Oh no, totally not. But
I just liked him as a characterbecause it isn't his scene. I think
Ryan Natasha Julia because yeah, shewould cut Savannah Savannah. Yeah, Jamie,
(42:04):
I think is a lock. Yeah, would like to see Ryan there.
It also doesn't seem like it wouldsuit him really, but um,
I would because I think he'd bea big draw. I'd like to seem
gets sunburned. I'd like to seelike the hat buddywhares, like you'd were
like he'd be like cochroning it,like do you think I shared and went
he would forget to bring a bathingsuit? Do you think he'd just drive
(42:29):
down there and Sheila was that hername, like like Dean in the van.
Um? Yeah, I see himmore wearing like those floey pants,
like really like totally boho. Um. It would be fun to see him
down there again, just someone that'snot really like the typical contestant. And
I feel like he'd be the onethat women would like, the ones who
(42:50):
like weren't finding anybody or driving withanybody. They'd like shared it, like
they'd all pounce on him to belike that last row, like well keep
me around, and he'd like feelreally guilty, like who we should keep?
And I see him being in likewho was that like Veneral John's role?
Oh No, he'd end up beinglike the player of Paradise Unexpected Hero.
(43:10):
Yeah. It's funny that when wewere talking about the Bachelor finale and
who we'd see from VIP and howwe are like, oh, we're probably
going to see Listen to Your Heartpeople, But now we'd rather see most
of that cast than probably anyone fromPeter season over Peter's season. Right now,
(43:31):
we've seen too much of them.I liked. I like this cast.
Yeah, yeah, I'm trying tothink if there's anyone I would pair
up with from Peter season, likeRan, I feel like mcknno would try
and make out with Ryan immediately.Yeah, definitely. Yeah, he'd be
over his head for sure. That'dbe fun. I feel like they'd ask
(43:55):
Brandon speaking, but I wouldn't wantto see him there, and he'd be
way too old for all of Peter'scast. I'm already forgetting like who like
the group of guys would be.Maybe I think we're ready for like the
Blast from the Past that's coming upin June. So so let's talk about
(44:17):
that. Y. So we arenot going to take a break. Um,
we're just going to content. We'regoing yeah, um, so we
are going to talk about Labor ofLove for the last couple of weeks while
it's an airing. If it's apparentlythe lead was on like there is a
(44:40):
like tangentially related besides being like alove competition. The lead was on the
past season of The Bachelor way backwhen what yeah she I want to say,
was it Brad Walmax season? Maybeher? Yeah? Yeah, So
we're gonna talk about that, umfor the next couple of weeks, and
(45:01):
then we are going to talk aboutthe Bachelor Presents seasons you've already seen.
Yeah, yeah, we'll see whatlike memories in mind where people are yeah,
yeah, so we're looking forward tothat. Um. Yeah, we're
(45:22):
gonna talk about it the whole seasonin a in a night, three hours.
It's like the movie version season.Who are you most excited about?
Who am I most excited about?I don't. I think maybe some of
the seasons I haven't seen, um, Like i'd love to see like Bob
Guineas season get covered. I don'tthink it'll happen, but I would like
(45:43):
to see that. I'm worried thatthey're not going to go back too far
because it just doesn't like suit theaesthetic now or like that doesn't have as
much drama that they can create threehours worth. I hope they do,
though, I think they need thathistory we need. I agree. I
want to see that because I don'tremember those as well. Um. I
(46:04):
we're going to get Jason Mesnick forsure. We're getting Jojo for sure.
Yeah, we're gonna get Sean Lowfor sure. Do you think do you
think we'll get Ben Higgins? Ithink so. I think this is popular.
Um, but his season was prettyUm. Do you think they'll show
(46:27):
clips, like have a like videocall with anybody, or have them film
like ims that they'll air like wherewhere is Ben now? Like anything like
that? Yeah, Sean and Catherinewith their babies, I think definitely.
Um. From the Bachelorettes. Yeah, I think we're gonna go pretty recent.
(46:50):
We're just we're gonna get Trista,but then we're gonna maybe get like
Gillian and Ali. Um, yeah, Caitlin, Jojo, Rachel. Yeah,
Jillian would be good. I don'tthink we'll get Desert. She's a
successful one, you know, it'sso funny. Um. I feel like
we're gonna get Juan Pablo so thatwe can prep for Claire. Yeah,
(47:15):
I don't. I'm really looking forwardto it. I think the pandemic has
completely eaten away at my brain.Uh, and now it's left me.
I wouldn't have cared about three hoursof the show in one night. We
normally complaining although it is going tocut into my early bedtime. Yeah,
(47:36):
I'm definitely gonna rely on the DVRroute. I think, oh, you
know what, I'm hoping that becausea lot of times in Canada, if
there's a three hour episode, CITYTVwill start it the hour early. So
I'm hoping that's what's going to happen. Oh that'd be nice. Yeah,
just start that off at seven pm. I've an be in bed by ten
zero four. Perfect. All right, Well, stay tuned for upcoming coverage
(48:04):
of the premiere of Labor of Loveon Fox. But until then, Haley,
where can people find you? Youcan find me all over the internet.
I guessed with Brian scally Over onthe Dom and Collin podcast to talk
about the challenge last week. Ithink it was last week. God time
is just whipping by in a waythat I can't comprehend. I'm on the
Top Chef Roundtable every week here onthe rahap Up Network. That's been so
(48:28):
much fun. You can check outmy blog Strong Takes dot SA. Like
I said, I'm gonna have alittle post step tomorrow about about watching Listen
to your Heart. It's probably notthat much different than what I've said in
this podcast, but if you clickon the link anyway, that would be
just majorly appreciated. And you canfind me on Twitter and Instagram at h
Strong Underscore and you can find meon Twitter at our hap Recapper. Until
(48:52):
next time, ye
Hey everybody, and welcome to TheBachelor Presents. Listen to your heart for
a half up or the finale.I'm Amy here as always lovely Haley Strong,
Haley, how are you doing tonight? You know, Amy, I
really really like you, But Ijust don't know if we're at the same
place that Mike Bloom and Rob Sasterninoare at right now, So like,
(00:36):
I don't know if we could perform. Yeah, it's it's fine, Like,
come on, Haley, we justdon't fake it. I just there.
We don't have to be like them, I know, I know,
but like I just I look atthem and we're just not them, and
I just I don't know, LikeI think you're so great. I just
(00:57):
I can't. I just can't.I just can't do that. I just
can't do this. This is thefinale. This is the finale of the
show. I know, one moreepisode to cover. I don't know either
of the songs that well, soit's like, do I really want to
bother learning them? I mean,they were more played to my strengths,
I guess, but Rudy Strength,Whitney Houston, mats thing. Oh,
(01:23):
this was such a letdown. Iwas ding for them. I am so,
so, so incredibly disappointed, andlike, I honestly haven't had this
strong of a reaction watching watching anythingfrom the Bachelor in a very long time.
I was genuinely upset in a wayI never thought I could be about.
(01:44):
Listen to your heart, right,I know, I was right there
with you. I was just likesettling in to watch you know. I
had it on my DVR, andI was really excited for their performance,
and then this breakup scene it wasdragging on, So then I got my
hopes of that, like, oh, they want to be showing us this
much. If that's all they're gonnadon't happen, They're gonna come back at
(02:06):
the end or not gonna be something. No, we got a finale with
just two couples. I'm devastated,and we'll get into it. We do
have some news to cover. Yeah, unfortunate nation never sleeps um and well
some people should be sleeping looking atyou. Hannah Brown who on an Instagram
live when she was singing a song, uh saying an incredibly derogatory word that
(02:29):
no one should say who looks likeus? Why people do not need to
use that word? I don't carewhat your weird little stipulation is that you
think you can you cannot. Idon't care if it's in a song you're
listening to, you skip over thatit's it's it's not our it's not our
(02:50):
word. UM. And sure youcan say like, oh, well no
one should be using it. Well, you don't have that right to tell
them not to to tell black peoplenot to use it. Um. And
it's gross that we keep having havingto have this conversation UM, that you
cannot use that word. I don'tknow where people have been for the last
(03:12):
like hundreds of years. Mm hmm. Yeah, So you're disappointing to see
that come out about Hannah UM.And then she had kind of like a
not really like an apology or iskind of denying it at first on the
Live so and then came out witha UM, a more formal apology later
on UM and Yeah. Several membersof VAT Nation have spoken up. UM.
(03:38):
Rachel lindsay, of course, UM, so so wonderful, so eloquant
eloquent, so just like a magicalwoman talked about why why it's not okay?
Um it is, but it sucksthat she has to be like the
spokesperson like she's in position of blackpeople to tell us why we why white
(04:00):
people should not be using that word. And I had heard that she had
offered Hannah to come on her platformand Hannah like turned it down or didn't
pick it up, pick her upon that. So yeah, um,
hugely, hugely disappointing. I like, what else is there for us to
say about that? Right? Um? So in lighter news, Um,
(04:24):
Jane Tanner, baby number three isalready on the way. Yeah, great
for them. That sounds like thatsounds great. Yeah, three babies under
three sounds amazing. Jim Spradlin didit, but I don't know if she
recommended it, but they're really cute. Now, Um, congrats to them
(04:45):
that it sounds like something that theywanted, So I am very happy with
them. Hopefully she doesn't need togive birth in the closet again, Yeah,
hopefully, or they at least haveoutfitted it well this time. Yeah,
like a little gurnie or or something. It's got it ready to go,
although maybe you know quarantine's still goingon nine months from Nash yike,
(05:08):
probably six months from now, wellif they live in California and it's been
extended to August it's true, It'strue. So and then, um,
Caitlyn, one of the judges onthis finale, released a single and I
remember hearing her talk about this wayback when. So I think she's been
hanging onto it. Was super nervous, probably felt timing makes sense now why
(05:30):
not? Um, because she ison the episode, So why wouldn't you
exactly? And um, I thinkit jumped to number one in Canada and
the US. I have yet tolisten to it. I will get around
to it. Music has never beenmy strong suit. Um, but yeah,
good for her, Like, don'tyou remember, yeah, yeah,
(05:51):
Chris Souls her hometown date for thatseason, She took him to a recording
studio. Oh, I don't rememberthat. Maybe it will be one of
our episodes that we get to can'twait and see? Do you think they'll
go back to Crystals or just skipright to Kaitlyn's season? I don't know.
That's a good question. Well,you know what let's I'm going to
write that on one of these postit notes, is that we're going to
(06:14):
talk about what seasons we think we'regoing to see in that Okay, what
seasons seasons in coverage and then ifthe season will they show Britt or will
they just like brush past that theydid that they can't not show her this
the Yeah, the premiere like thatwas that was like the thing leaning up
to the season. Yeah, it'sa differentiated for sure. Yeah, but
(06:39):
then it makes sense to show Crystalseason. Actually person is having a baby
pretty soon? I think, Yeah, there's a lot of babies coming very
very soon. Um, Jennet Cooperis on week thirty nine. I was
lurking my Finsta, which I haven'tdone in a while. Um, it's
basically my Instagram account to follow likethe Bachelor people and MTV people that I
(07:03):
don't want to follow on my mainaccount. I hadn't been on it in
like five hour and I was lookingthrough it today and there was honestly probably
about five people who are like weekthirty nine and like, can't wait to
meet my Bibey Yeah, oh mygod. I saw a picture of her
today. I was like, oh, yeah, I forgot about this.
M Yeah, who do you thinkis next? I would say Ari Lauren
(07:25):
will be like another one that willhave another one really yeah, yeah,
I'm into that. Did you seeAri's new hair? That was another story?
Okay, love the grade. Don'tlove the blonde, Okay, I
feel like people are really vibing withthe blonde. Yeah, I think it's
what I like about the Yeah,I really do like that haircut. Um.
Have you had to give your boyfrienda quarantine haircut? Yeah, I
(07:48):
just seem like the front it didnot do a good job. So I
just relying on product right now,Like I like, this is not like
things are not like a thing thatuhould be for me. Um. I
have cut Ethan's hair Okay. Um. Luckily he's in a he's in a
thing right now where he wants toleave the top long, so I didn't
(08:09):
have to do any bang cut.Um, but I did have to do
like a feed basically. Um.It turned out much better than I could
have ever expected. Oh, okay, that's good. I saw Charlene had
like a tutorial, and so Ikind of watched that and I was like,
maybe I'll go back and really dothis. But I didn't really want
to commit. It's not like youjust want to kind of go in like
(08:33):
light first and then decide if youwant to take the next steps exactly.
Luckily my hair, like I don'tneed to do anything to it, just
like, I'll look forward to choppingit off at some point. But yeah,
right at the beginning of Quarantine,but it's completely faded. Yeah,
the fun hair die. That's Ithink you and already have that in common.
(08:56):
Yeah, we do, and Lauren. Al right, so let's get
back to the episode if we must. Can I tell you a secret about
this episode? Yeah? What isit? Every time I saw the preview,
I thought it was Lauren Bushnell wasrejoining us in Nashville. I was
(09:18):
shocked tonight to find out that wasJewel. That's so funny. I was
like, Lauren finally, Like wewere kind of mad that she got brushed
over before and like, oh shecomes out. Yeah. It was like
it was Joel was looking good,Jewel looks great. Yeah, I didn't
(09:39):
think. Yeah, so they arein Nashville. I guess she must be
based there now. She kind ofswitched to more country from folk. Yeah,
it's weird and it's funny. Yesterday, out of nowhere, I was
singing one of my favorite Jewel songs, which is the sad depressing one.
(10:01):
Um what's it called? Um?She gets up at six AO. Yeah,
feel so far from where you've been? Dreams last for so long even
after you're gone soon we you seeyou remember me for me work? Yeah,
(10:24):
somebody have gotten that song that wouldhave been good. I want them
to have somebody like sing a songfrom one of the judges yet better.
That'd be fun was Tate Digs inthe original version of Rent. I think
so cool. Oh my god,Okay, okay, hear me out,
hear me out. Wow, missedopportunity. Bring back the whole cast,
(10:46):
have them sing seasons of Love.That would have been so perfect season the
first season, the winner of thefirst season I'll Listened to Your Heart,
and they're committed, Like I thinkthey think the show will gland because it's
like winner of the first season ofInto your Heart, not winner of Listened
to Your Heart. Yeah, Iwas like big dreams there, so speaking
big dreams, he talks about thatone couple is going to get their dream.
(11:09):
So we see them arriving to Nashville, and we kind of get a
little check in with each couple,mostly like the guys kind of narrating,
like Trevor talks about the plan isto move to Nashville, um, and
then Chris talking about being in lovewith Bree. I don't know if we
(11:31):
saw Matt talking about I think hewas. We saw a little bit of
him before then. Um, butthen we get Chris Harrison coming into the
sweet saying that it's all about love, commitment, music. They have to
be they have to check off allthose boxes. Make sure you can check
off all those boxes. Basically saidthat you have to be in love forever,
(11:52):
kind of what he does on thatBachelor, that dreaded Bachelor in Paradise
stay where half the couples leave.And this made Matt very nervous. So,
um, yeah, okay, Idon't know how long the flight from
Las Vegas to Nashville is. It'scross country ish but not the most cross
(12:13):
country four hours, right, whywaste your time and come to Nashville.
Here's my thing. I think afterlast week's performance, Matt and Rudy were
on a high, and Matt waslike, you know what, this solidifies
everything and my conspiracy theory, Ihave a tinfoil had a right. So
(12:35):
the producers pulled Matt aside and said, like, do you love Rudy.
If you do, you should tellher, Like are you falling in love
with Rudy? You need to tellher. You need to tell Rudy that
you love her, because I think, like you need that moment they wanted
or whatever. Yeah, they wantedMatt and Rudy to win, but they
(12:56):
couldn't give them the win if theyhadn't said I love you or I'm falling
in love with you or whatever.Okay, Yeah, and then that freaked
him out out and he had toleave. And I'm guessing that they probably
still didn't want them to leave.Like that probably messed up. You know.
It seems weird to gather all thesepeople for like a big finale show
(13:18):
and for four songs. Yeah,for four songs and only two couples,
Like, oh, they just tryto flip a coin who's gonna win?
Like there's really no like there wasno suspense there. I had another thought
that maybe he didn't want to getlike I think definitely like hearing Chris Harrison
kind of put it in perspective freakedhim out about like what the contract would
(13:41):
be like if he has to performwith Rudy and if he's not there,
and it's like, oh, Idon't want to play as if we're madly
in love for a whole year aswe go on tour or something and that
became more realistic that they might win. I thought it was weird to like
leave, yeah, right when youhit the ground in Nashville, why not
like go on the date, um, hang out, the conversation of practice
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the songs you're feeling with you.But I really really like you, and
I don't want to end this andthen take you to win if sames he's
not in love, so like,let's just sing we we are robbed of
hearing ready sing Winnie Houston, whichis incredibly rude. Yeah, I guess
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she did a little excerpt of thatsong on her Instagram today. She did
it. It was magical. Yeah, So I did get a little choked
up when I saw him in thecar, saying like that's the part he
was most upset about that he tookthat away from her. It obviously seemed
very like difficult decision. Um,but it's just so upsetting, Like it's
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just I wouldn't have to be thisway. I was. I was genuinely
so mad, and I was likeI did not believe they weren't in the
finale show until he was in thesuv, and even then I was like,
well, maybe he'll stay stop stop. Yeah, I I truly did
not believe it. The Bachelor hasnot brought something else like this and me
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in a very long time, andI did not expect it to come from
Lessen to your Heart. The show, we didn't even think we were going
to watch right well, and thenthe preview also I showed Rudy being really
upset, so I'm like, oh, it's not like going to be that
bad, and it just really justwas that it's like too late for someone
to leave at this point. WouldRhyman and Natasha have done this, No,
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they would have gotten married on stage, legally binded together to win this
show, and I believe that,yeah, they would have done anything.
It's terrible, terrible And also Mattlike you couldn't put on a better shirt
to break up with Rudy in likethat's what the kids in high school used
(15:56):
to go smoke weed. And atluncheon it was like half like plaid hals,
like sweatshirt jackets. Yeah. Yeah, we had like ten minutes of
him just pacing in the hallway ofthe hotel. He was like having a
break. I hope he had likea great chat with the onset therapist after
because like he and I'm not sayingthat in like a mean way, like
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I really hope he found like closurethat he needed, because this was obviously
like a very weird and stressful scenariofor him because he just clearly had no
idea what he was getting into becominga becoming a member of the Bachelor franchise.
Well, and then I was thinking, like, Okay, is he
one of those guys that had somethingkind of going on back home? And
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it's like, Okay, I don'twant to like drag this out anymore,
because he was like breaking up withher too. It wasn't like we're not
there yet. It was like,I hope you know how much I care
about you will be bonded for therest of our lives. But it wasn't
like, you know, I wantto see where this goes, but just
not beyond this finale, you know, like it just felt like it was
(17:02):
just done. But apparently he likethey're kind of seeing each other a long
distance. Okay, I didn't seean update on that. I read it
somewhere and then I guess Natasha andRyan are also just taking it day by
days, you know. Okay,guys, Yeah, See and Jamie have
broken up already. Can you believethat. I don't. Um no,
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it's not a shock. But Ididn't see that. So I didn't get
the latest updates yet. But Icould kind of tell based on their instagrams
that they're he did not move toNashville. M h um yeah um Jamie
and Trevor Um. Yeah, thisepisode, he just it was it was.
It was weird with them. Iwas really just hoping they weren't going
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to win. Honestly, Um,I just didn't see how they could.
I did not think the performance waslike good. I didn't either. I
didn't like the arrangement, like itwasn't totally their fault on the first song.
Um, but just wished Jamie wouldstop touching his face while she's singing.
Yeah, in this it's hard becausewe saw in this episode Judge Rita
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Wilson, who I'd say about amonth after this was filmed, announced that
she had coronavirus. Yeah. Ididn't put the timing together, but yeah,
and all the face touching is justlike we were living in a timeline
in which we're just not touching eachother's faces that much. Yeah, just
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fine. Yeah, so it doesn'tdoesn't read so well even more it's weird.
Yeah, but they um find theremaining two couples, Well, how
do you think about how they reactedto Um, Matt and Rudy leaving?
Okay, okay, um, Brie, you lovely little snake. I love
you so much. Oh my god. She knew okay, I believed Bree
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was genuine, but she knew thatRudy, Rudy and Matt were her competition.
And when Matt's like, I needto leave, She's like, whatever
makes you happy is what makes mehappy. Making me happy is winning and
without you guys, I'll do that. Thank you right right? Yeah,
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Like I'm so happy for you guysthat you broke up and I'm leaving the
competition. What Yeah. Yeah,Jamie was clearly very upset. She loves
Rudy. Jamie is also very clearlytwenty one years old. No, stay
like this. That is you know, when I was in university first year
and we found out that like oneof our roommates was for one of our
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you know, bunk whatever it wascalled residence, mats was like dropping out
halfway through the year, moving home. You're just like, no, I
love you, like, don't everleave. And then you're like I'll never
talk to you again. Sorry.Yeah, so m Rudy tells Jamie to
go and win it for her,so they're obviously very close. I didn't
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pan out, but she did getthe fantasy suite, and it looked like
the date was already in the fantasysuite and they just have to go upstairs,
like why did they need a key? And also, jumping just ahead,
Breed did not take the fantasy sweetdate, so I assumed that they
went back to the suite that theywere all sharing with each other, but
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no one else was there, sowas it just a fantasy? Like,
oh my god? And was thislike the night before, because then I
think they're smart for turning it downjust to be like, no, we
got to relax before the fire performance. Yeah, i'd stay up Homefie.
Yeah. And I don't know iflady in the tramping a donut is like
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great for your vocal courts, butI am not a professionally trained singer,
right, maybe not the best thingto have the day before or morning after.
And then Chris and Brees's date likejust ended right after they had decide,
noting it was just like okay,yeah, they can just finish their
dinner. Okay, So yeah,why didn't they at least take it to
hang on talk. I think becausethis is me making a huge assumption.
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Bree is from Utah. Utah hasa very large Mormon and religious population.
I would think that she doesn't wantlike I think she understands. Yeah what
life system, Yeah what a fantasysuite implies. And I don't think she
wanted that on her right, right, Yeah that makes sense. Uh.
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And Chris took it super well andhe was happy. And then they tried,
like the like the show tried tomake it make it seem like it
became an issue between them, whenI don't know, it never it just
seemed like Chris was just kind oflike himself. Yeah. We never saw
Chris in an IM saying anything aboutany problems. Was just free saying like
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something's changed, like I can feelit or whatever. Yeah, what if
she was just talking about their musicalchemistry or because they had a bad rehearsal.
Didn't really seem like, I don'tknow, it didn't seem like it
became anything. Yeah, Like,show me the rest of the rehearsals with
everyone, and you can't tell methey were great. One percent of the
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time, right, um? Oh. On the Fantasy Suite with Trevor and
Jamie, Trevor says, I feellike I've already won. Was he just
setting her up? Like, oh, we're probably yeah? I don't believe
anything. Trevor says, yeah,yeah, Um, then let's see we
get to the show. I don'tremember what what venue it was, but
(22:45):
it's fairly large. Venue's are Ifeel like I would have remembered if it
was. Yeah, No, itwasn't that look more modern? Um?
When they first show the audience feelingin, it's like all twenty something with
it, Like I was surprised toget any guys in the audience, but
eventually they did. People were prettyhype. See Chris Harrison shown up in
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a tux. You know what,I would love to say that wouldn't be
me, but if I went tothis Bachelor concert and Chris Harrison came out,
I would be whoop whooping along.Yeah. I hate to say it,
but I probably would too. Probablya lot of that those clips that
they cut to have people cheering forthe performances was probably the Chris Harrison footage
(23:30):
because they're the most enthusiastic. Yeah, or the judges the Bachelor Royalty,
Caitlin and Jason. Does Jason clothaias royalty already or is it just Caitlyn.
No, You're welcome Jason for beingwith Caitlin. That is the only
reason I got invited to this.I like seeing them. I'd like Jason,
I like Caitlin. They're cute together. I hope they have a long
(23:52):
life of happiness and wonderfulness together.And I love Jason Sue. Yeah,
he kind of rocked that back whenhe was on the show too. I
think that Navy. Yeah, yeah, maybe it's the same one. Ethan
pointed out that almost every woman atthe finale was wearing some sort of black
seed Rita Wilson looked like twins.Like their hair was the same. They
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had like yeah sequins, um yeah. Even the performers right, like ye,
Jamie, what is the wardrobe deploymentdoing? Because they were responsible for
all of this, I don't know. And they couldn't have fit Jamie for
a better bra. See what Iwas wondering is like, was she going
to old school like the wonder bra? Like because she's like it was like
she's sinching thing. She is beautifuland gorgeous and talented and has a rock
(24:41):
and bod. I just feel likeshe could have had more support in more
ways than we yep. Um,so let's see who else we had.
We had Taed Eggs and Jewel.As we mentioned before, how did you
feel about this panel? A littlemore supersized of a panel? Yeah?
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Um, yeah, I was excitedabout Jewel. I like Jewel Diggs is,
like, you know, he's great. Does Jamie know who t Diggs
is? Does Jamie know who Jewelis? Um? I think she might
know who Jewel is? Have youever heard of Rita Wilson song? No?
But then I heard that she wrotethe song, helped write the songs
for that Thing You Do? AndI have watched that movie, so I
(25:25):
have heard those songs. Is thatthe one she had four albums? Is
that the one about a one hitwonder or something? Yeah? Yeah,
I have not watched it yet.Maybe I'll get there. Yeah, it's
like takes place in the fiftiest TomHanks movie. Mhm, um, let's
see. Yeah, I was excited. I guess like the one thing Caitlin
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could have done is if she hadher single ready to go, then Chris
could have announced it that she alsois a recording artist, that maybe yeah,
given her the most cred as soas far as the song assignments,
we have Jamie Trevor got Unchained Melodyby the Righteous Brothers and Speechless Speechless by
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Dan and Shae, which I don'treally know them, but I've heard that
song. It is okay. Itis one of the most boring songs I
have ever heard in my entire life. And when I heard they got Unchained
Melody, I was like, no, please, don't do that to the
song. Please. Yeah. Yeah, I think it was a rough choice
(26:33):
for them. And then they didthat to that song. Yeah exactly.
Yeah, that was my least favoriteperformance of the night for sure. I
did not like the arrangement and yeah, I just I didn't really have anything
possive to say about it. Butthe judges did. They seem to they
have to, Yeah, you haveto make it look like there's a fight,
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but it was just yeah, nocontest. Christen Bree got make You
Feel My Love. Um, sothey had said Bob Dylan, but then
the paper said Adele so she muststart done a cover of it and then
give me Love by ed cheering.And now that that song like that performance
gave me chills and I love Ilove the choir, and I love like
(27:17):
the big string instruments. Like,I thought that was a really wonderful performance
and I'm happy that's like what weended the season on. Mhmm, yeah
for sure, and what we're Rudyand Matt's songs, So they were gonna
have saving All My Love for Youby Whitney Houston and It's Your Love by
Tim mcgrand faith Hill. I don'tknow if I know that one. Yeah,
(27:40):
I don't. I don't think Iknow that one either, but I
think it's um like a legit duetbetween the two. Yeah, so that
would probably I don't know. Wehaven't really seen them do like a slower
ballad, so that would have beennice to see. I think, like
a more subdued song. Um.Yeah, I just felt like the second
(28:02):
part, just of the performances,I was still like reeling from disappointment.
But did you have any doubt thatBring and Chris we're gonna take this?
Yeah? I did have doubt.I was worried. It's just like because
I feel like we we really didn'tsee that much of Chris and Bree.
I feel like Trevor and Jamie wereso much the story that I was like,
(28:23):
oh my god, what if theywin? And then I would have
called collusion because their performance was significantlyworse than Chris and Brees, right,
like significant and noticeable. Yeah,and even in the praise that they got
at the end, like paydegg thing, I would pay money to hear you
sing, and Jason Chris is justoh my god, his voice is like
(28:48):
velvet to the ears, and Ithink Breez's voice just plays off it really
nicely, where I don't Whenever Juliusstarts off the song, I like where
she's going, and then as soonas Trevor come sen it like throws her
off. She can't seem to recover, right, Yeah. So and then
Jason said something like the world needsto hear more of you. So it's
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just kind of like, Okay,they're giving away even in their comments,
whereas the comments to Genie and Trevormore like, oh, you guys are
so cute, like did you goto the fantasy sweet you know, like,
oh, you're so cute together.Maybe uncomfy, but I'm a prude.
I have a kissing in the middleof a song. Yeah, I
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don't want to hear like Caitlin's like, oh, like, do you guys
have fantasy sweet dates? Have youbeen there yet? It sounds seems like
you're gonna go there soon. Yeah, I don't need to hear about their
sex capades. I guess that's whythey have to have a Bachelor Nation couple
on every judge's because that otherwise whywould that come up. So um,
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they are announced as the winner,they get to go on their little tour
bus at the end, and thenI just kind of, you know,
closes out with that. It waskind of like kind of low fanfare.
Then we see it gave us alittle update and they gave us like a
singing in studio session, which wassuper cute. I enjoyed seeing that.
Yeah, so they did get Theymust have got started right away, which
(30:12):
is good. Apparently the album's alreadyout. I think it's ten songs,
like five originals that they and fivecovers the ones that they did on the
show. And yeah, said Greenand Chris are still deeply in love today
and look forward to their debut album. So yeah, it's already for them
there. Yeah, I think thesecrazy kids can make it. I hope.
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So Yeah, it didn't seem likethere are any issues aside from that
unexplained little glitch that was going onthe night or the morning of that rehearsal.
So yeah, let's get to ouraudience questions, because I feel like
those will if there's anything we missed, they always will bring it up,
(30:55):
so we'll get it covered. Um, Gary Hogan, the question is also
on my mind, Hayley, willwe see a season two someday? This
is tough. Um, I don'tthink they got good numbers, and that's
when there's literally nothing else to watch, right, that's pretty damning, I
would say. But they were goingto bring back Winter Games since as Summer
(31:22):
Games. Yeah at one point,so, and I don't think that was
huge success. No, yeah,I would absolutely watch a second season.
I do think there needs to besome changes. Um. Yeah, I
would like to see more people around. I mean, look what happened now
that they had They put so muchpressure on them that we only had four
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people in the finale, Like,I'm sure they would have rather had more
contestants like and I would have likedto see more people stick around, maybe
switch up the couples. Yeah,I wrote I wrote a blog post today.
I'm going to post it tomorrow sowhen it goes out, So when
this podcast past goes up, it'llprobably be up. So one of my
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ideas to make this show better wasjust instead of having an uneven number of
people at the beginning and bringing acouple of people in, have everyone there
from the beginning and start their performancesthat week. Everyone has to pair up.
Yeah, and I think some pairscould get voted out by judges or
(32:27):
the other people whatever, and there'smore agency to switch up couples if you're
findings and imbalance, like more girlsand guys. Would you have like a
couple like where they do like twodifferent pairings and try it out, baby,
But I would say, don't evenhave an imbalance, just make them
match up. Yeah, yeah,create those triangles. Yeah, and have
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a performance every week. Because Ithink I think you might agree with me,
is that the first two episodes ofthe season were the worst ones and
there was no performance to it.So you know, there was how many
people that we didn't even get tosee sing? Yeah, so many that
didn't here speak. Yeah. Iwould have loved. I would have loved
(33:13):
if everyone had a chance to performand if the first two weeks are three
dates states yeah, oh states whatever, singing dates. Yeah. So I
would just like to see a littlebit more from everyone and have less pressure
in that, like if you're notcurrently in a solid couple, you must
(33:34):
go. Yeah. I don't liketo see that drama kind of caused by
like, Okay, a solid couplebut the judges can't, or someone that
isn't a solid couple, but theyperform awesome together just like buy into it,
right, Natasha, Like that causesdrama too if people are like,
oh, they don't even really likeeach other, yeah, serious, but
they stay in longer than someone elsethat was like a real couple, but
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they just don't sound good together.So I would like to see that,
Like why do we have to likegive it away to the judges and say
like, oh, yeah, we'reso in love. We told each other
we love you. Like it shouldbe like just watch the performance and decide
on their chemistry. Yeah, exactly. And you don't know if like performing
together could lead to more chemistry becauseit because the show feels more like a
(34:20):
game, I think that they reallyshould direct themselves more towards a Bachelor Pad
format rather than a Bachelor in Paradiseformat, So yes, have a couple
go home at the end of everyepisode, have two couples go home.
I don't care, Let's see everyone. Let's like, you know, in
Bachelor Pad, they could switch uptheir couples. They didn't have to stay
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in the same couple the entire time. One of my favorite rollments in the
season was when half of a couplewas forced to go on a date with
somebody that they didn't necessarily want tobe with, and it didn't totally work
out for most of the couples,but they're It was that a little spark
group drama with Julia and Brandon andI would I would have loved if halfway
(35:06):
through the season everyone had to performwith somebody different. Would be so good.
Even if they're like so solid,it's like, Nope, you've got
to perform with this other person,because then it takes them away from that
person too. It's like they couldcause drama by like, oh, they're
not even spending time with me inthe house because we've got to go rehearse,
you know. Yeah. So Ithink those are two, two or
a couple of things that would reallyhelp the next season. If there is
(35:30):
one. Yeah, I mean Trevoreven said something like it was really corny,
but it was like, oh,I felt like I could be open
with her because she heard me sing, so she's already seen my soul.
Like, if that's how they're feeling, then it's like, yeah, make
them sing together right away. Ifthat's what connects them, then they're going
to open up more early on,Justin Feinberg, if you're part of vast
(35:50):
nation, like Jamie is quoting ChrisHarrison, is this Chris Harrison's way of
subtly alerting the audience that Jamie's theonly person in the entire cast who has
seen an episode of the show before. It felt like it, Yeah,
I felt like Rudy kind of knewwhat was going on, but yeah,
probably not to the same extent ordidn't want to admit it smartly. And
(36:10):
then is the show trying to tellus that bringing Chris nearly lost because they've
practiced and rehearsed in the morning,while Jamie and Trevor nearly won because they
spent the morning Lady in a trampingthe donut. And then let's see,
oh I think it cut off thesecond part. Yeah, sorry, um,
follow up, if Hailey decides topodcast about The Bachelor the Greatest Seasons
(36:31):
Ever, well, she spend moretime taking notes on this season she hasn't
seen before, or a lady inthe tramping a donut with Ethan while the
episode airs two things justin, Ihaven't taken a note for this podcast since
twenty twenty fourteen. Second and all, do you think i'd share a donut
(36:52):
with anyone? Good point. Ialso think they're going to focus a lot
of the seasons on ones you actuallyhave seen, Like, I don't think
they're going too deep in the onlyway I share a donut is if we
go get like a three pack ofdonuts and we cut them all in half,
try all of the kinds. Yeah, I have to try everything.
I have one donut. I amnot sharing my one donut. Yeah,
(37:14):
and maybe share like what are thosecalled, like the long John's like where
they are like two donuts and oneyeah, yeah, it doesn't even like
whip cream. So I get toeat those by myself. Nice or a
beaver tail as you know, Ohyeah, love me a beaver tail.
And then let's see. Then wehave a comment on that question. Michelle
Durkin says that was gross and Ihave a very low bar. I watched
(37:36):
the show after all, and thenjustin Fineberry, are you more likely to
listen to Chris and Bree's debut albumtitled Chris and Bree, Rudy's new single
hate La, or Jamie's new singlego to Your Head? Or well?
Michael Todd's Hot Touds remain the mostsuccessful piece of original music produced by this
cast. I forgot about Michael.Oh god, can you Evenmago? We
(38:00):
had him for more of the season. Can you eight performance with him?
We are we have been robbed,We really were. Make sure they should
have to be in front of suberyjudges right away? Yeah, see you
who can to handle it? Yeah? And then they'll get more motivated to
like, oh, this is likelegit. We could win something like give
them the stakes right away. Althoughnow if there is a season two,
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they know what the winning couple getsthat there is a winning couple, so
maybe they would get more people dowant to fake it? We'll see and
then just a five, Marik.Since Jamie and Trevor are broken up,
now will Jamie appear on five consecutiveseasons then retire from the Bachelor franchise at
the age of twenty seven, makingus all feel old in the process.
And de Trevor, I really findhimself falling in love with Jamie or let's
(38:45):
see this one got cut off too. Did he find himself falling in love
with the idea of getting to thefantasy suite with a twenty one year old?
Yeah? Sorry, my bad.I just was being lazy tonight and
copy and pasted the entire Facebook readwithout without over. Yeah. I hope
you guys like Jamie because we willbe seeing here for and I mean this
(39:08):
years to come. Yeah. Yeah, and I think they like she would
have been even too young for Coultonseason. I feel like when that was
airing, so, um, dependingwhom the Bachelor is going to be next,
like she could have been on Peter'sseason, would have fit in there.
(39:29):
But yeah, this might have beensomebody that was like applying for the
Batchel already. Um, somebody theywant to have in their casting lists at
all times. So yeah, Bacheloron Paradise whenever it comes back another Bachelor's
season, who knows? And thenwhat was really up with Matt and Rudy
quitting? This is from Michelle towork and also could it really have been
(39:51):
because there was not true love aftera few weeks. To me, that's
crazy. Trevor should have schooled Matton how to fake it, h yeah,
or taken like classes from Natasha andRyan right, like just focus on
the performance side of things, likegetting they didn't even know who the judges
were going to be, Like whoknows what you're missing out on or what
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kind of dates they might have gottenin Nashville. They could have got that
cool city dates that we like andjust just see like you can bow out
like some other time. Maybe youdidn't want to look like a jerk,
like after the fantasy sweet date orsomething. But I really think to not
let Rudy perform and not just theycould have been honest stuff there, Like
she said, we don't fake it. They can say like we haven't said
(40:35):
I love you yet, the judgesaren't going to pick you, you know,
so then you don't have to worryabout it. Alis Enjoy not really
questioned, But I cannot stand theway they made it seem like being christ
were fighting, You're not going tomake it. They must have just spliced
together random audio eclipse. Yeah,I don't know what the scoop was because
they seem just fine, right.Yeah, I'm still confused by that,
(40:57):
and they're fine now apparently, soI guess the right couple did win.
Um, it's good for them.But yeah, I just wish we had
a little more drama, real dramain this finale. I did have one
question from Emily Scher. She textedit to me, but now I can't
seem to find it U. Soyeah, if you want to text your
(41:19):
questions to me, you can.I will not give you my number mons
your Yeah, so you know whoyou are if you have that privilege.
Oh god, oh here it is. Who? Who would you have wanted
to see on Bash on Paradise?Okay? I like Matt and Rudy a
lot, but I would have beenbummed out to see them, like not
(41:40):
be together. But maybe they wouldgo to Backsha on Paradise and get back
together or if they that's Matt scene. Oh no, totally not. But
I just liked him as a characterbecause it isn't his scene. I think
Ryan Natasha Julia because yeah, shewould cut Savannah Savannah. Yeah, Jamie,
(42:04):
I think is a lock. Yeah, would like to see Ryan there.
It also doesn't seem like it wouldsuit him really, but um,
I would because I think he'd bea big draw. I'd like to seem
gets sunburned. I'd like to seelike the hat buddywhares, like you'd were
like he'd be like cochroning it,like do you think I shared and went
he would forget to bring a bathingsuit? Do you think he'd just drive
(42:29):
down there and Sheila was that hername, like like Dean in the van.
Um? Yeah, I see himmore wearing like those floey pants,
like really like totally boho. Um. It would be fun to see him
down there again, just someone that'snot really like the typical contestant. And
I feel like he'd be the onethat women would like, the ones who
(42:50):
like weren't finding anybody or driving withanybody. They'd like shared it, like
they'd all pounce on him to belike that last row, like well keep
me around, and he'd like feelreally guilty, like who we should keep?
And I see him being in likewho was that like Veneral John's role?
Oh No, he'd end up beinglike the player of Paradise Unexpected Hero.
(43:10):
Yeah. It's funny that when wewere talking about the Bachelor finale and
who we'd see from VIP and howwe are like, oh, we're probably
going to see Listen to Your Heartpeople, But now we'd rather see most
of that cast than probably anyone fromPeter season over Peter's season. Right now,
(43:31):
we've seen too much of them.I liked. I like this cast.
Yeah, yeah, I'm trying tothink if there's anyone I would pair
up with from Peter season, likeRan, I feel like mcknno would try
and make out with Ryan immediately.Yeah, definitely. Yeah, he'd be
over his head for sure. That'dbe fun. I feel like they'd ask
(43:55):
Brandon speaking, but I wouldn't wantto see him there, and he'd be
way too old for all of Peter'scast. I'm already forgetting like who like
the group of guys would be.Maybe I think we're ready for like the
Blast from the Past that's coming upin June. So so let's talk about
(44:17):
that. Y. So we arenot going to take a break. Um,
we're just going to content. We'regoing yeah, um, so we
are going to talk about Labor ofLove for the last couple of weeks while
it's an airing. If it's apparentlythe lead was on like there is a
(44:40):
like tangentially related besides being like alove competition. The lead was on the
past season of The Bachelor way backwhen what yeah she I want to say,
was it Brad Walmax season? Maybeher? Yeah? Yeah, So
we're gonna talk about that, umfor the next couple of weeks, and
(45:01):
then we are going to talk aboutthe Bachelor Presents seasons you've already seen.
Yeah, yeah, we'll see whatlike memories in mind where people are yeah,
yeah, so we're looking forward tothat. Um. Yeah, we're
(45:22):
gonna talk about it the whole seasonin a in a night, three hours.
It's like the movie version season.Who are you most excited about?
Who am I most excited about?I don't. I think maybe some of
the seasons I haven't seen, um, Like i'd love to see like Bob
Guineas season get covered. I don'tthink it'll happen, but I would like
(45:43):
to see that. I'm worried thatthey're not going to go back too far
because it just doesn't like suit theaesthetic now or like that doesn't have as
much drama that they can create threehours worth. I hope they do,
though, I think they need thathistory we need. I agree. I
want to see that because I don'tremember those as well. Um. I
(46:04):
we're going to get Jason Mesnick forsure. We're getting Jojo for sure.
Yeah, we're gonna get Sean Lowfor sure. Do you think do you
think we'll get Ben Higgins? Ithink so. I think this is popular.
Um, but his season was prettyUm. Do you think they'll show
(46:27):
clips, like have a like videocall with anybody, or have them film
like ims that they'll air like wherewhere is Ben now? Like anything like
that? Yeah, Sean and Catherinewith their babies, I think definitely.
Um. From the Bachelorettes. Yeah, I think we're gonna go pretty recent.
(46:50):
We're just we're gonna get Trista,but then we're gonna maybe get like
Gillian and Ali. Um, yeah, Caitlin, Jojo, Rachel. Yeah,
Jillian would be good. I don'tthink we'll get Desert. She's a
successful one, you know, it'sso funny. Um. I feel like
we're gonna get Juan Pablo so thatwe can prep for Claire. Yeah,
(47:15):
I don't. I'm really looking forwardto it. I think the pandemic has
completely eaten away at my brain.Uh, and now it's left me.
I wouldn't have cared about three hoursof the show in one night. We
normally complaining although it is going tocut into my early bedtime. Yeah,
(47:36):
I'm definitely gonna rely on the DVRroute. I think, oh, you
know what, I'm hoping that becausea lot of times in Canada, if
there's a three hour episode, CITYTVwill start it the hour early. So
I'm hoping that's what's going to happen. Oh that'd be nice. Yeah,
just start that off at seven pm. I've an be in bed by ten
zero four. Perfect. All right, Well, stay tuned for upcoming coverage
(48:04):
of the premiere of Labor of Loveon Fox. But until then, Haley,
where can people find you? Youcan find me all over the internet.
I guessed with Brian scally Over onthe Dom and Collin podcast to talk
about the challenge last week. Ithink it was last week. God time
is just whipping by in a waythat I can't comprehend. I'm on the
Top Chef Roundtable every week here onthe rahap Up Network. That's been so
(48:28):
much fun. You can check outmy blog Strong Takes dot SA. Like
I said, I'm gonna have alittle post step tomorrow about about watching Listen
to your Heart. It's probably notthat much different than what I've said in
this podcast, but if you clickon the link anyway, that would be
just majorly appreciated. And you canfind me on Twitter and Instagram at h
Strong Underscore and you can find meon Twitter at our hap Recapper. Until
(48:52):
next time, ye
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