September 23, 2025 • 21 mins
What does 90,000 listeners really look like? That’s the question Bama Brown wrestles with as he kicks off this unforgettable episode of The Bama Brown Experience. Joined by his longtime partner, the Biggest Puma, the duo dives into a whirlwind of stories that span decades, genres, and jaw-dropping moments.
Bama shares the story of his good friend Gregg Rolie, legendary keyboardist and vocalist for Santana and Journey, and now a member of Ringo Starr’s All-Starr Band. From performing at Woodstock at just 17 to living a quiet life in Lago Vista with surreal visits from Ringo himself, Gregg's life is full of iconic memories of rock stardom. But that’s just the beginning!
Bama and Puma also unpack:
Bama shares the story of his good friend Gregg Rolie, legendary keyboardist and vocalist for Santana and Journey, and now a member of Ringo Starr’s All-Starr Band. From performing at Woodstock at just 17 to living a quiet life in Lago Vista with surreal visits from Ringo himself, Gregg's life is full of iconic memories of rock stardom. But that’s just the beginning!
Bama and Puma also unpack:
- A hilarious and heartfelt prank call involving a woman searching for her artificial heart.
- The FCC lawsuit that changed radio prank calls forever.
- A bizarre Japanese service where you can rent a gangster to intimidate people.
- The top five reasons you’re feeling sluggish—and how to fix it.
- A scam so ridiculous it’s almost impressive: a man convinces an elderly woman to send $6,700 for oxygen on the space station.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hi everybody, Mamma Brown with you and the Mamma Brown
Experience on the iHeart Podcast Network. We're over nine thousand
of you listening now. Thank you very much for that.
We appreciate that on our way to ten thousand, which
is great along with my partner, the Big Cat Puma,
who has his You guys, nine thousand people's nothing compared
to your ratings with the Sports Cave. You guys are crazy,
(00:25):
man with the numbers all.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Got oh man, it takes they all add up. Eventually,
it's it's nine thousand one day.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Eventually. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I tend to I get a little nervous when the
zeros keep getting added to that number, you know, nine thousand.
Is we get to ninety thousand, then, you know, God
forbid we ever get to nine hundred thousand.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I don't know. I remember the I remember one time
the ratings came out when I was, you know, on
CAVET and there was an average listener in the week
it was ninety like ninety thousand, and then we and
we did a deal at ut with Bevo before the
game and the stadium was full and we just happened
and it was ninety thousand and I stood there looking
(01:11):
at the stadium and I'm going that many people's listening
in the morning, and I got a little nervous. I
was like, God, that's a lot of people, you know, so.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Even I think even the biggest stars in the world.
Eventually you get desensitized to it, but you have to
still there have to still be times where you think
about it, especially like that where you can actually see
this is what ninety thousand people looks like like, this
is what the this is what the audience actually would
(01:39):
look like if they were all in the same place.
But yeah, anywhere you get your podcast, just search for
the Sports Cave with Biggest Puma and of course we
will be live over on YouTube tonight. As as Brett
Musberger used to say, you're looking live over on YouTube
at sports Cave Live.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I have my friend Greg Raley, who you may recognize,
may not recognize the name he was. He was the
vocals in Santana, so you know, black Magic Woman was
him singing, and every time I would see him, he's
a good friend of mine, and then it still is
and I'd see him and I'd go, I got a
black Magic marker, and he goes shut up. And then
he formed Journey along with those guys, and then they
(02:20):
brought Steve Perry and he's a keyboardist, and then he
plays with Ringo now in the All Star band. So yeah,
he's good. Pretty He's in the Hall of Fame twice.
He's got a pretty good resume. Anyway, we were he
was at Woodstock, him and Carlos were at Woodstock. The
original two founders is there of Santana and he goes,
we got there early and at night and he said,
(02:41):
we get on stage and he goes, you couldn't see
because of the lights, and he said, I didn't. We
were seventeen years old. They were kids from San Francisco,
and he said, we're on the way out and we're
driving through a crowd and driving through a crowd and
driving there and he said, my god, this thing goes
on for how many people are here? And the guy
said close to half a million and he went he
(03:02):
got I got scared then because he was a seventeen
year old kid that played the keyboards and uh. And
then he said the next day, man, after you know,
the Woodstock was hit it for them, and he said
the next day we were rock and roll stars. Man,
we were booking, you know, I had a manager, and
of course they were they were able to cheat all
of it away from him, you know, but he still
(03:22):
did did fairly well. You know. I know he's worth
four or five million. Still. He didn't write any of
the songs, but between it and Journey, you know. And
I was in his office when they had a gold
record from Journey, one of those Journey songs, and I
looked up there and we used to get those at
the radio station and they were fake. And I was
sitting there late, I go, oh my god, this is
a real one. You gotta really goes, Yeah, yeah, these
(03:44):
are real. So anyway, good guy too, you I mean,
you just hang out and and uh and get and
you could just hang out with He lives a logo
vista now out there and uh oh would he looks out.
He has a view of the lake, you know, like
the river coming around on both sides. I mean, his
views incredible and uh and I was sitting there with
(04:06):
him and he and he said, Ringo was sitting there.
Ringo come to stay with him. And he said, I'm
sitting there with Ringo star and he Ringo goes, This
was all on need right here. Yeah, but you know
he had to travel. It's to travel with two uh
suburbans full of x DEA guys for protection because he
(04:26):
doesn't go anywhere without him. And they don't ever get
out of car. They park with their suburbans ready on,
both of them running, ready to leave. And I thought
that's the saddest thing in the world to be.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
It sounds miserable.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Like I mean, I was gonna say, I'd like to
think if I was ever at that level of fame,
I would still be the same, you know, long haired hippie,
chill hangout guy.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
But the protection aspect of it, that just sounds miserable.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
There's there's just nuts out there, you know that a
dude like you know, well after Mark Chapman, you know,
shot John Lennon. Of course, if he'd aimed a little
to the left and god, Yoko, he'd be a national hero.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
But that's a different story, different story.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Everybody around the world will be cheering that guy.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Or god after after the guy did it to impress
Jody Foster, right.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Don't you know he was pissed off when he found
out he was.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
A lesbian a little probably a little upset probably.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Going in you never had a chance.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Man probably have done for more research there.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
There's an old story, you know. He his dad was
a big oil executive and and was having dinner with
I want to say Jeb Bush that night, one of
the Bush kids was having dinner with with that guy's
uh Hinckley, with Hinckley's dad that night and uh did
he or the day before or something that he shot Reagan?
(05:55):
You know? And uh? And he you know, he the
guy I went on tour and and did and spoken
and he just couldn't deal with it. And he would
speak and a guy I knew saw him and his
first statement is, my son shot the president of the
United States. That's how he would start this seminar and
(06:15):
there'd be you know, hundreds of people there, sure, and
then he would it was about mental illness and that
kind of thing. Is really he really was able to
turn it around for himself more than anything, you know,
I mean, nothing was gonna fix John Ininkley, as those
gears had spun off already. But you know he's out
I think now on probation.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
He does concerts, His shows sell out for his his
he does. I think it's like indie folk kind of
you know American.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, I didn't know that. Oh my god, well that
was you know.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
He's in New York City by sell out the theater
that he plays in.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Okay, whatever, man, that just freaks me out. All right.
I saw this, I thought this was be pretty good.
Is I'm struggling with this in the last couple of weeks.
I don't have to tell you that. But if you
feel sluggish and you're off your game, and I think
I you know, look at Boom was like, uh maybe
for a week. Yeah, I was useless. All right. Uh
(07:15):
so here's five things that that is causing you to
be sluggish you need to change to get back on
your game.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Number five, you're not getting enough sleep, and that's true.
I will step watch tv. I have been watching too
much television.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
That's a big one.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah. Uh. Number four mindless snacking. I do that. Yeah,
I snack crackers or whatever I find in there. I e.
It was like a beard or picnic deal. You know. Uh,
I don't do this. But biting your nails makes you
sluggish and off your game. So really, you bout your nails.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I was really, really, really bad at biting my nails
in high school and college. And then, uh, I'll tell
you what what changed. It was work working in a
in an auto shop, working.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Uh, grease under it, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
And all of a sudden I'd look down at my hands.
I'd be like, that's those are disgusting. I can't bite
my nails. And then slowly the habit was broke because
my hands were always dirty.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I know where my hands being. I'm never touching my name.
Number two not enough water, he said, if you don't
drink enough water, you need to do it. Ain't get up,
move around drinking water because Number one was sitting too much.
If you're sitting too much, get up, run down the hall,
get you a drink of water, and uh.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Move around around your house, just moving around around.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I splashed water. I guess the water. I splash it
on my neck and for some reason that kind of
wakes me up. So that's a good deal. Uh. Let's see.
Here's a company in Japan. They have a rental company
called Covidto, and you can rent a gangster will go.
He's scary looking gangster and he will go and intimidate somebody.
(09:01):
So if somebody owes you money or you want to
mess with somebody, you can hire a gangster and he
looks like a real gangster and we'll do the whole deal,
you know.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
And it feels I feel like this is just the
This is the first headline that we read, and the
second headline is rental gangster tries to intimidate real gangster
and it doesn't go well.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I don't I don't know. I don't think he does
actual killing or hurting of anybody. I think he just
puts on the act and then, you know, if you
call his glove okay.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
The part, yeah, and then quickly he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. No,
I'm actually I'm a I'm an I'm an actor. I'm
a theater actor. I'm just playing. I'm doing a part here,
I'm doing a bit.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, I'm getting paid. Now you can hire me to
go back and scare that guy, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, that's how I would turn it around, because you
know that somebody's hiring you to be the gangster. They're
gonna be kind of a whist and you should be
able to intimidate it. Give me the money, give me
more money. This is something that I thought was very interesting.
If if you're working from home and in your background,
you want to look like a pro, as if you
have your own company or you don't, or you're in
(10:09):
a office you know where you're I mean your own
office where you're zooming. Here's five things that they say
don't do because it takes away from what you're doing.
Number five was a clothing draped over a chair anywhere
in the background. You know, you want it to look
like you're not, you know, not a dorm room. Number four,
don't show storage binds. So if you've got storage bends
(10:31):
in your office, don't hit them. Have it over to
the side, because it makes you look like you have
to have a storage bind That's how I'm you know.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
You're not look like a bit of a hoarder. Potentially, Yeah, exactly,
hoarder is exactly. Number three television in the background. Have
you got TV on, even if it's on like CNN
or on the stock market, don't nobody's full of that
you're watching.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
You know, you're watching some other uh tech clutter they said,
cables or any kind of tech in the background. You
look like you, you know, don't know what you're doing.
You just like threw it all together there and you're
temporary looking, uh, and the number one you want to
guess the number one, because you're always good at guessing.
What would you think the most according to this, you know,
one of these office survey deals, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
The obvious.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
The obvious guest to me is probably the two items
that I have currently in my background right now. I
would say pets don't have pets pets and the pets.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Wasn't on there. I was surprised to you about that
distracting art. They said, a painting or something or a
poster that's distracting will always draw people away from what
you're doing and what you're saying, and they'll be focused
on your if they don't like your poster or they
do like you know, you don't want to give them
a chance to to you out start judging you.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, that's that's pretty Uh, that's pretty subjective, depending on
the because I mean, I'm I don't know how we
record this every week, uh a week after week with
that distraction, that distracting painting you have above your head
right now, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
How my buddy did that. You remember John Welch, a
DJ he Uh he was he was a disc jockey
and he wasn't making enough and he started painting, and uh,
I think you can see it pretty good, can't. It's
good at it? Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's his first.
That's his first painting Merle Haggard. And he did the
(12:30):
Merle Haggard and it turned out pretty good. And he
was broke, so I gave him some money for it
because he was out of work. And I mean he
was DJ and but it was part time and then
uh he DJ and Sandonio for a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
It was over on KKY.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, John, he used to he would. They were Welch
and Wood. He were in Chicago, they were in uh. Well,
first they were in uh uh Odessa And I said,
and I went to school with I went to high
school with him. I said, I knew John and uh
and then uh and then they moved to New Orleans.
And in New Orleans, they're the reason that clear Channel
(13:06):
got sued. They're the reason that you can't do fake
phone calls. They they did this deal. We used to
all do it where you could call in and we
would call somebody and screw with them, you know, and
they and you didn't tell them you were a radio show.
You didn't have to and Uh, Welch and Woody. This guy,
(13:28):
it doesn't matter. This guy called in. It was his
fiance and he said, I want you to play a
trick on my fiance is a June wedding. Tell her
that you've got a bigger client and that you can't
do all the stuff for the wedding tomorrow. And they
called her and the poor woman had a seizure. Oh god, yeah,
and she sued the radio company. It was clear Channel.
They sued John and uh and Welch and Woody and
(13:51):
she won a million dollars and they all had to
pay and they had to what's what, he had to
file bankruptcy and Uh. Then the FCC passed that law.
So whenever you call somebody at a radio station, you
have to go, hey, we're a radio station. We're getting
ready to play a prank on you.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
And you know, kind of kills the kind of kills
the concept of a prank.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Now here's what's fun that if they call you, then
you don't have to tell them that. That was the rule.
If if somebody called your show by accident, you didn't
have to tell them. And what was awesome in Cavett.
When I was on the air for years, there was
five request lines, but the fifth one was eight hundred,
(14:36):
so somebody could call an eight hundred number back then,
and whenever that eight hundred lit up, first we knew
it was a wrong number. And it happened two or
three times a week, and it was mostly people FedEx
looking for their FedEx package. And so I had Meg
with me, and then I after that had Kimberly with me,
and I was doing the midday Cavett show. It was
a morning show in the midday, right after Sam and Bob.
(15:00):
These people would call and when it was that number,
and then kimber Lear or Meg either would act like
a reception this say hello, yeah, I'm checking on my package. Okay,
hold on, and then they would give me, you know,
switch over to me and I'd go hello, and they go, yeah,
I'm checking on my package. And I'd go, what's your
shipping number? And they would give me a number, the
FedEx number or whatever number, and I go, I go, uh, yeah,
(15:23):
that landed this morning and I can't pronounce it. This
venezuela and it was signed by a Turio Gonzales. And
they would be every time dead silence for a second
and I, you know, because we were taping this and
then play it back and we weren't live and I
and then they'd go, no, it's supposed to be in
(15:45):
Saint Louis or right. I go, it's in Venezuela.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I'm looking at it right here.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
They would start screaming, oh my god, I needed today.
I go, well, you'll have to take that up with
Ontario because he's got it now, you know. And then
we would we'd let him go for two before they
started to cut and you know, and then I go, no, no,
you're say hi, toss.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Tax calm down.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
And we had them call and then and I may
I told you this all before. But about the guy
that was an engineer called from some building system and
he goes, yes, I've got your system here. I'm putting
the system together. It's some big major construction project. And
I go mmmmm hm and uh and and the Kimberly goes, well,
let me get to let me get the engineer on
(16:25):
the phones.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I get on. I go uh huh huh. And the
guy whatever, he explained and I took construction. I didn't
even understand anything. This guys saying I go, no, no, no, no.
All you need to do is get some two by
fours and shove up under there and just kind of
wedget and that'll hold it. And the guy goes, excuse me,
and I go, yeah, I just kids going out home,
(16:46):
Debo gus too before to shove up and that'll hold it.
You know, that'll hold it. Fine, that's what we've done before.
And the guy goes, I don't think you understand. I go, hey, hey, hey,
who called who he's a customer, who's a expert. And
here's this poor guy is going I still meet this guy,
but I.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Want to go, yeah, I also want to dress him
up and down.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, it's all that we would, of course surprise him,
but the absolute best one totally and I and I
truthed it on the air. Before I did it, a
woman called and she was checking on her artificial heart.
Oh no, I'm not making it up, and and so Kimberly,
I looked at her. Maybe it was Meg, I came
(17:28):
ron an it was Kimberly looked at me and she
goes and I go, let's do it. We're recording it,
and and she goes, hold on, please, and I get
on there and I go, yes, ma'am, and she goes, yeah,
I'm I'm checking on my artificial heart and my name
whatever name was. And she said I wanted to see
if and I said, okay, let me look. And I'm like,
I got you know, I always had my prop ya,
(17:49):
you know, and I go, mmm, no, I got two
eyeballs and a testicle. And she started giggling and I said,
wait a minute, wait a minute, I got a monkey heart.
How about that? It's half price, you know, and she
(18:10):
said she figured out that, you know, all as she goes,
I haven't laughed any year. I just wanted to thank you,
And I said, I told her who we were, you know.
And so before we played that on the air, I go, okay,
I'm going to tell you all right now, do not
start calling and complain in the balls. You listen to
the whole thing. And then and we played it. It
was really it was great. Well she's she was, She goes,
(18:33):
I'm laughing. That made me laugh. That was very funny.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
So whoever whoever told you being a smart ass or
a smart alec or a prankster jokester would never pay off,
you absolutely.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Done pretty well for forty years of it. Oh man,
let's do you want to do a couple more things.
I got a couple of Oh, pickpockets are and over
in Italy are suing their victims because they feel like
their victims are stalking them. So the pickpockets are suing
(19:07):
the victims that they steal from.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Only atally in court would they get caught.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, when they catch them and they say over and
I know in parish you got to hold on everything
you got. Are they just picky clean? You know?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
So yeah, you know we heard that before we went
over there. I think maybe, I think being a six
foot four, long haired, redneck looking dude probably is enough
of a deterrent. Because I didn't really deal with a
whole lot of the you know, gypsies coming up trying
to get to or trying to, you know, find some
(19:43):
way to scam you out of money.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
I didn't come across to too much of that.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Well, you you know, I'm same way he come from.
All the places I came from. I could have easily
been targeted. Speaking of this, let's end it with this one.
This is the crazy story for the week. I think
there's a woman in Japan in her eighties and she
was scammed by a man that he scammed her out
of sixty seven hundred dollars for oxygen. He told her,
(20:11):
I need you to give me this money for oxygen
because I'm in the space station and we're running out
of air and I need you to help me get air.
And it's sixty seven hundred dollars and there's no way
for us to pay for it from space. And the
poor thing fell for it, and the guy got sixty
seven hundred.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
There are a lot of obviously, I never want to
see someone scammed, but when the scam is so dumb
and you still fall for it, I have an eighty
year old lady give her some like if this was
a forty five year old woman that fell for this scam,
I would have way less sympathy, because that's I mean that,
(20:51):
it's like the scammers aren't even trying there, that's right.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I mean, but this the host in space and she
bought it. Man seven hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Don't work on the space station.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
He must be pretty good, man, he must be awesome.
They need to get him for Congress, to go to
Congress and get for money for the space program. Sounds
like he could do it there all right. That's the
Bama Brown experience on the iHeart podcast Network. Thank you
listening to the guys live tonight on the Sports Cave
Hi everybody, Mamma Brown with you and the Mamma Brown
Experience on the iHeart Podcast Network. We're over nine thousand
of you listening now. Thank you very much for that.
We appreciate that on our way to ten thousand, which
is great along with my partner, the Big Cat Puma,
who has his You guys, nine thousand people's nothing compared
to your ratings with the Sports Cave. You guys are crazy,
(00:25):
man with the numbers all.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Got oh man, it takes they all add up. Eventually,
it's it's nine thousand one day.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Eventually. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I tend to I get a little nervous when the
zeros keep getting added to that number, you know, nine thousand.
Is we get to ninety thousand, then, you know, God
forbid we ever get to nine hundred thousand.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I don't know. I remember the I remember one time
the ratings came out when I was, you know, on
CAVET and there was an average listener in the week
it was ninety like ninety thousand, and then we and
we did a deal at ut with Bevo before the
game and the stadium was full and we just happened
and it was ninety thousand and I stood there looking
(01:11):
at the stadium and I'm going that many people's listening
in the morning, and I got a little nervous. I
was like, God, that's a lot of people, you know, so.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Even I think even the biggest stars in the world.
Eventually you get desensitized to it, but you have to
still there have to still be times where you think
about it, especially like that where you can actually see
this is what ninety thousand people looks like like, this
is what the this is what the audience actually would
(01:39):
look like if they were all in the same place.
But yeah, anywhere you get your podcast, just search for
the Sports Cave with Biggest Puma and of course we
will be live over on YouTube tonight. As as Brett
Musberger used to say, you're looking live over on YouTube
at sports Cave Live.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I have my friend Greg Raley, who you may recognize,
may not recognize the name he was. He was the
vocals in Santana, so you know, black Magic Woman was
him singing, and every time I would see him, he's
a good friend of mine, and then it still is
and I'd see him and I'd go, I got a
black Magic marker, and he goes shut up. And then
he formed Journey along with those guys, and then they
(02:20):
brought Steve Perry and he's a keyboardist, and then he
plays with Ringo now in the All Star band. So yeah,
he's good. Pretty He's in the Hall of Fame twice.
He's got a pretty good resume. Anyway, we were he
was at Woodstock, him and Carlos were at Woodstock. The
original two founders is there of Santana and he goes,
we got there early and at night and he said,
(02:41):
we get on stage and he goes, you couldn't see
because of the lights, and he said, I didn't. We
were seventeen years old. They were kids from San Francisco,
and he said, we're on the way out and we're
driving through a crowd and driving through a crowd and
driving there and he said, my god, this thing goes
on for how many people are here? And the guy
said close to half a million and he went he
(03:02):
got I got scared then because he was a seventeen
year old kid that played the keyboards and uh. And
then he said the next day, man, after you know,
the Woodstock was hit it for them, and he said
the next day we were rock and roll stars. Man,
we were booking, you know, I had a manager, and
of course they were they were able to cheat all
of it away from him, you know, but he still
(03:22):
did did fairly well. You know. I know he's worth
four or five million. Still. He didn't write any of
the songs, but between it and Journey, you know. And
I was in his office when they had a gold
record from Journey, one of those Journey songs, and I
looked up there and we used to get those at
the radio station and they were fake. And I was
sitting there late, I go, oh my god, this is
a real one. You gotta really goes, Yeah, yeah, these
(03:44):
are real. So anyway, good guy too, you I mean,
you just hang out and and uh and get and
you could just hang out with He lives a logo
vista now out there and uh oh would he looks out.
He has a view of the lake, you know, like
the river coming around on both sides. I mean, his
views incredible and uh and I was sitting there with
(04:06):
him and he and he said, Ringo was sitting there.
Ringo come to stay with him. And he said, I'm
sitting there with Ringo star and he Ringo goes, This
was all on need right here. Yeah, but you know
he had to travel. It's to travel with two uh
suburbans full of x DEA guys for protection because he
(04:26):
doesn't go anywhere without him. And they don't ever get
out of car. They park with their suburbans ready on,
both of them running, ready to leave. And I thought
that's the saddest thing in the world to be.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
It sounds miserable.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Like I mean, I was gonna say, I'd like to
think if I was ever at that level of fame,
I would still be the same, you know, long haired hippie,
chill hangout guy.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
But the protection aspect of it, that just sounds miserable.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
There's there's just nuts out there, you know that a
dude like you know, well after Mark Chapman, you know,
shot John Lennon. Of course, if he'd aimed a little
to the left and god, Yoko, he'd be a national hero.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
But that's a different story, different story.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Everybody around the world will be cheering that guy.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Or god after after the guy did it to impress
Jody Foster, right.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Don't you know he was pissed off when he found
out he was.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
A lesbian a little probably a little upset probably.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Going in you never had a chance.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Man probably have done for more research there.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
There's an old story, you know. He his dad was
a big oil executive and and was having dinner with
I want to say Jeb Bush that night, one of
the Bush kids was having dinner with with that guy's
uh Hinckley, with Hinckley's dad that night and uh did
he or the day before or something that he shot Reagan?
(05:55):
You know? And uh? And he you know, he the
guy I went on tour and and did and spoken
and he just couldn't deal with it. And he would
speak and a guy I knew saw him and his
first statement is, my son shot the president of the
United States. That's how he would start this seminar and
(06:15):
there'd be you know, hundreds of people there, sure, and
then he would it was about mental illness and that
kind of thing. Is really he really was able to
turn it around for himself more than anything, you know,
I mean, nothing was gonna fix John Ininkley, as those
gears had spun off already. But you know he's out
I think now on probation.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
He does concerts, His shows sell out for his his
he does. I think it's like indie folk kind of
you know American.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, I didn't know that. Oh my god, well that
was you know.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
He's in New York City by sell out the theater
that he plays in.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Okay, whatever, man, that just freaks me out. All right.
I saw this, I thought this was be pretty good.
Is I'm struggling with this in the last couple of weeks.
I don't have to tell you that. But if you
feel sluggish and you're off your game, and I think
I you know, look at Boom was like, uh maybe
for a week. Yeah, I was useless. All right. Uh
(07:15):
so here's five things that that is causing you to
be sluggish you need to change to get back on
your game.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Number five, you're not getting enough sleep, and that's true.
I will step watch tv. I have been watching too
much television.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
That's a big one.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah. Uh. Number four mindless snacking. I do that. Yeah,
I snack crackers or whatever I find in there. I e.
It was like a beard or picnic deal. You know. Uh,
I don't do this. But biting your nails makes you
sluggish and off your game. So really, you bout your nails.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I was really, really, really bad at biting my nails
in high school and college. And then, uh, I'll tell
you what what changed. It was work working in a
in an auto shop, working.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Uh, grease under it, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
And all of a sudden I'd look down at my hands.
I'd be like, that's those are disgusting. I can't bite
my nails. And then slowly the habit was broke because
my hands were always dirty.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I know where my hands being. I'm never touching my name.
Number two not enough water, he said, if you don't
drink enough water, you need to do it. Ain't get up,
move around drinking water because Number one was sitting too much.
If you're sitting too much, get up, run down the hall,
get you a drink of water, and uh.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Move around around your house, just moving around around.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I splashed water. I guess the water. I splash it
on my neck and for some reason that kind of
wakes me up. So that's a good deal. Uh. Let's see.
Here's a company in Japan. They have a rental company
called Covidto, and you can rent a gangster will go.
He's scary looking gangster and he will go and intimidate somebody.
(09:01):
So if somebody owes you money or you want to
mess with somebody, you can hire a gangster and he
looks like a real gangster and we'll do the whole deal,
you know.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
And it feels I feel like this is just the
This is the first headline that we read, and the
second headline is rental gangster tries to intimidate real gangster
and it doesn't go well.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I don't I don't know. I don't think he does
actual killing or hurting of anybody. I think he just
puts on the act and then, you know, if you
call his glove okay.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
The part, yeah, and then quickly he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. No,
I'm actually I'm a I'm an I'm an actor. I'm
a theater actor. I'm just playing. I'm doing a part here,
I'm doing a bit.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, I'm getting paid. Now you can hire me to
go back and scare that guy, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, that's how I would turn it around, because you
know that somebody's hiring you to be the gangster. They're
gonna be kind of a whist and you should be
able to intimidate it. Give me the money, give me
more money. This is something that I thought was very interesting.
If if you're working from home and in your background,
you want to look like a pro, as if you
have your own company or you don't, or you're in
(10:09):
a office you know where you're I mean your own
office where you're zooming. Here's five things that they say
don't do because it takes away from what you're doing.
Number five was a clothing draped over a chair anywhere
in the background. You know, you want it to look
like you're not, you know, not a dorm room. Number four,
don't show storage binds. So if you've got storage bends
(10:31):
in your office, don't hit them. Have it over to
the side, because it makes you look like you have
to have a storage bind That's how I'm you know.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
You're not look like a bit of a hoarder. Potentially, Yeah, exactly,
hoarder is exactly. Number three television in the background. Have
you got TV on, even if it's on like CNN
or on the stock market, don't nobody's full of that
you're watching.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
You know, you're watching some other uh tech clutter they said,
cables or any kind of tech in the background. You
look like you, you know, don't know what you're doing.
You just like threw it all together there and you're
temporary looking, uh, and the number one you want to
guess the number one, because you're always good at guessing.
What would you think the most according to this, you know,
one of these office survey deals, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
The obvious.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
The obvious guest to me is probably the two items
that I have currently in my background right now. I
would say pets don't have pets pets and the pets.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Wasn't on there. I was surprised to you about that
distracting art. They said, a painting or something or a
poster that's distracting will always draw people away from what
you're doing and what you're saying, and they'll be focused
on your if they don't like your poster or they
do like you know, you don't want to give them
a chance to to you out start judging you.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, that's that's pretty Uh, that's pretty subjective, depending on
the because I mean, I'm I don't know how we
record this every week, uh a week after week with
that distraction, that distracting painting you have above your head
right now, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
How my buddy did that. You remember John Welch, a
DJ he Uh he was he was a disc jockey
and he wasn't making enough and he started painting, and uh,
I think you can see it pretty good, can't. It's
good at it? Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's his first.
That's his first painting Merle Haggard. And he did the
(12:30):
Merle Haggard and it turned out pretty good. And he
was broke, so I gave him some money for it
because he was out of work. And I mean he
was DJ and but it was part time and then
uh he DJ and Sandonio for a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
It was over on KKY.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, John, he used to he would. They were Welch
and Wood. He were in Chicago, they were in uh. Well,
first they were in uh uh Odessa And I said,
and I went to school with I went to high
school with him. I said, I knew John and uh
and then uh and then they moved to New Orleans.
And in New Orleans, they're the reason that clear Channel
(13:06):
got sued. They're the reason that you can't do fake
phone calls. They they did this deal. We used to
all do it where you could call in and we
would call somebody and screw with them, you know, and
they and you didn't tell them you were a radio show.
You didn't have to and Uh, Welch and Woody. This guy,
(13:28):
it doesn't matter. This guy called in. It was his
fiance and he said, I want you to play a
trick on my fiance is a June wedding. Tell her
that you've got a bigger client and that you can't
do all the stuff for the wedding tomorrow. And they
called her and the poor woman had a seizure. Oh god, yeah,
and she sued the radio company. It was clear Channel.
They sued John and uh and Welch and Woody and
(13:51):
she won a million dollars and they all had to
pay and they had to what's what, he had to
file bankruptcy and Uh. Then the FCC passed that law.
So whenever you call somebody at a radio station, you
have to go, hey, we're a radio station. We're getting
ready to play a prank on you.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
And you know, kind of kills the kind of kills
the concept of a prank.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Now here's what's fun that if they call you, then
you don't have to tell them that. That was the rule.
If if somebody called your show by accident, you didn't
have to tell them. And what was awesome in Cavett.
When I was on the air for years, there was
five request lines, but the fifth one was eight hundred,
(14:36):
so somebody could call an eight hundred number back then,
and whenever that eight hundred lit up, first we knew
it was a wrong number. And it happened two or
three times a week, and it was mostly people FedEx
looking for their FedEx package. And so I had Meg
with me, and then I after that had Kimberly with me,
and I was doing the midday Cavett show. It was
a morning show in the midday, right after Sam and Bob.
(15:00):
These people would call and when it was that number,
and then kimber Lear or Meg either would act like
a reception this say hello, yeah, I'm checking on my package. Okay,
hold on, and then they would give me, you know,
switch over to me and I'd go hello, and they go, yeah,
I'm checking on my package. And I'd go, what's your
shipping number? And they would give me a number, the
FedEx number or whatever number, and I go, I go, uh, yeah,
(15:23):
that landed this morning and I can't pronounce it. This
venezuela and it was signed by a Turio Gonzales. And
they would be every time dead silence for a second
and I, you know, because we were taping this and
then play it back and we weren't live and I
and then they'd go, no, it's supposed to be in
(15:45):
Saint Louis or right. I go, it's in Venezuela.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I'm looking at it right here.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
They would start screaming, oh my god, I needed today.
I go, well, you'll have to take that up with
Ontario because he's got it now, you know. And then
we would we'd let him go for two before they
started to cut and you know, and then I go, no, no,
you're say hi, toss.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Tax calm down.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
And we had them call and then and I may
I told you this all before. But about the guy
that was an engineer called from some building system and
he goes, yes, I've got your system here. I'm putting
the system together. It's some big major construction project. And
I go mmmmm hm and uh and and the Kimberly goes, well,
let me get to let me get the engineer on
(16:25):
the phones.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I get on. I go uh huh huh. And the
guy whatever, he explained and I took construction. I didn't
even understand anything. This guys saying I go, no, no, no, no.
All you need to do is get some two by
fours and shove up under there and just kind of
wedget and that'll hold it. And the guy goes, excuse me,
and I go, yeah, I just kids going out home,
(16:46):
Debo gus too before to shove up and that'll hold it.
You know, that'll hold it. Fine, that's what we've done before.
And the guy goes, I don't think you understand. I go, hey, hey, hey,
who called who he's a customer, who's a expert. And
here's this poor guy is going I still meet this guy,
but I.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Want to go, yeah, I also want to dress him
up and down.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, it's all that we would, of course surprise him,
but the absolute best one totally and I and I
truthed it on the air. Before I did it, a
woman called and she was checking on her artificial heart.
Oh no, I'm not making it up, and and so Kimberly,
I looked at her. Maybe it was Meg, I came
(17:28):
ron an it was Kimberly looked at me and she
goes and I go, let's do it. We're recording it,
and and she goes, hold on, please, and I get
on there and I go, yes, ma'am, and she goes, yeah,
I'm I'm checking on my artificial heart and my name
whatever name was. And she said I wanted to see
if and I said, okay, let me look. And I'm like,
I got you know, I always had my prop ya,
(17:49):
you know, and I go, mmm, no, I got two
eyeballs and a testicle. And she started giggling and I said,
wait a minute, wait a minute, I got a monkey heart.
How about that? It's half price, you know, and she
(18:10):
said she figured out that, you know, all as she goes,
I haven't laughed any year. I just wanted to thank you,
And I said, I told her who we were, you know.
And so before we played that on the air, I go, okay,
I'm going to tell you all right now, do not
start calling and complain in the balls. You listen to
the whole thing. And then and we played it. It
was really it was great. Well she's she was, She goes,
(18:33):
I'm laughing. That made me laugh. That was very funny.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
So whoever whoever told you being a smart ass or
a smart alec or a prankster jokester would never pay off,
you absolutely.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Done pretty well for forty years of it. Oh man,
let's do you want to do a couple more things.
I got a couple of Oh, pickpockets are and over
in Italy are suing their victims because they feel like
their victims are stalking them. So the pickpockets are suing
(19:07):
the victims that they steal from.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Only atally in court would they get caught.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, when they catch them and they say over and
I know in parish you got to hold on everything
you got. Are they just picky clean? You know?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
So yeah, you know we heard that before we went
over there. I think maybe, I think being a six
foot four, long haired, redneck looking dude probably is enough
of a deterrent. Because I didn't really deal with a
whole lot of the you know, gypsies coming up trying
to get to or trying to, you know, find some
(19:43):
way to scam you out of money.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
I didn't come across to too much of that.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Well, you you know, I'm same way he come from.
All the places I came from. I could have easily
been targeted. Speaking of this, let's end it with this one.
This is the crazy story for the week. I think
there's a woman in Japan in her eighties and she
was scammed by a man that he scammed her out
of sixty seven hundred dollars for oxygen. He told her,
(20:11):
I need you to give me this money for oxygen
because I'm in the space station and we're running out
of air and I need you to help me get air.
And it's sixty seven hundred dollars and there's no way
for us to pay for it from space. And the
poor thing fell for it, and the guy got sixty
seven hundred.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
There are a lot of obviously, I never want to
see someone scammed, but when the scam is so dumb
and you still fall for it, I have an eighty
year old lady give her some like if this was
a forty five year old woman that fell for this scam,
I would have way less sympathy, because that's I mean that,
(20:51):
it's like the scammers aren't even trying there, that's right.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I mean, but this the host in space and she
bought it. Man seven hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Don't work on the space station.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
He must be pretty good, man, he must be awesome.
They need to get him for Congress, to go to
Congress and get for money for the space program. Sounds
like he could do it there all right. That's the
Bama Brown experience on the iHeart podcast Network. Thank you
listening to the guys live tonight on the Sports Cave
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