May 1, 2025 • 14 mins
Have you ever wondered if the five-second rule is real or just a myth? Join Bama Brown and his co-host, the Big Puma, as they dive into this intriguing question and much more in this episode of The Bama Brown Experience. With nearly 38 years of radio experience in Austin, Bama Brown brings his unique storytelling flair to the table, making every episode a blend of humor, insight, and nostalgia.
In this episode, Bama kicks things off with a jaw-dropping story about a Delta flight where the ceiling fell out mid-air, leading passengers to hold it up and duct tape it until landing. This bizarre incident sets the tone for a series of engaging anecdotes and discussions.
The episode also features a deep dive into the infamous five-second rule, debunked by Dr. Nicholas Archer, who reveals the truth about microbial growth on dropped food. Bama and Puma reflect on childhood myths and parental tactics, adding a humorous and relatable touch to the conversation.
Listeners are treated to heartfelt stories about Bama's brother, a former football player and coach, whose life took unexpected turns after a rig accident. Despite the challenges, his brother's coaching career led to numerous state championships and the success of many young athletes, including NFL player Andre Rison.
Notable quotes from the episode include Bama's humorous take on the Delta flight incident: "You couldn't convince me that that wasn't the beginning of catastrophe," and his reflections on the five-second rule: "It's a zero-second rule; if it's on the ground at all, it immediately starts doing whatever it does to get you."
Don't miss out on this captivating episode filled with laughter, life lessons, and unforgettable stories. Subscribe to The Bama Brown Experience on the iHeart podcast network, leave a review, and share the episode with your friends. Tune in now and join the conversation!
In this episode, Bama kicks things off with a jaw-dropping story about a Delta flight where the ceiling fell out mid-air, leading passengers to hold it up and duct tape it until landing. This bizarre incident sets the tone for a series of engaging anecdotes and discussions.
The episode also features a deep dive into the infamous five-second rule, debunked by Dr. Nicholas Archer, who reveals the truth about microbial growth on dropped food. Bama and Puma reflect on childhood myths and parental tactics, adding a humorous and relatable touch to the conversation.
Listeners are treated to heartfelt stories about Bama's brother, a former football player and coach, whose life took unexpected turns after a rig accident. Despite the challenges, his brother's coaching career led to numerous state championships and the success of many young athletes, including NFL player Andre Rison.
Notable quotes from the episode include Bama's humorous take on the Delta flight incident: "You couldn't convince me that that wasn't the beginning of catastrophe," and his reflections on the five-second rule: "It's a zero-second rule; if it's on the ground at all, it immediately starts doing whatever it does to get you."
Don't miss out on this captivating episode filled with laughter, life lessons, and unforgettable stories. Subscribe to The Bama Brown Experience on the iHeart podcast network, leave a review, and share the episode with your friends. Tune in now and join the conversation!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey, folks, Bamon Brown here on the BAM and Brown Experience.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
iHeart Podcast and Network.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Thank you so much for listening to me thirty seven
years almost thirty eight years in the radio in Austin.
And then we tell stories and just have some fun.
My partner the Big Puma, the Big Cat out of
San Antonio with a sports cave.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hey, I want to listen to that. What I gotta
do to get that?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Oh, it should be easy for you. We try to
make it as easy as possible. Anywhere you get your
podcasts naturally, as good company men like we are, prefer
you use the iHeart app, but I won't hold it
against you if you choose otherwise. Just anywhere you get
your podcast, search for the sports Cave with the Biggest Puma.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I don't know if you saw the story now. I
haven't traveled a whole lot. Went to go to Colorado
once a year, in Florida once a year. But a
Delta flight Boeing seven fifty seven, poor Boying man. If ever,
they've had more trouble in their lives anyway, a flight.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
From New York to LA Did you see this or
where they're.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Flying along and the ceiling fell out of the plane
and the passengers all had to hold.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
It up and then duct tape it till they landed.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
You know, It's like but it was just the inside ceiling,
you know, like a car, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, a headliner basically is what it what it was.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Uh, and they were it's on video, just fell out
and hit people.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
But it didn't wait very much and they were all
on that plane.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
You couldn't convince me that that wasn't the beginning of catastrophe,
even if you told me, just a headliner, it's no
big deal. Just hold it up, like no, this is
this thing's about to disintegrate. It's about to fall apart
in mid air.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
You'd go as soon as you get that ceiling put in.
Mamon was sitting in this seat right here. You're gonna
have to put a new seat in because he is
he's he's wetted on that one. I could have done
that anyway, been as old as I am. You know,
it doesn't have to be scared.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
That just happens. It's it's good stuff to look forward.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
To our flight.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, hey, Lee helped me out there.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Uh, that was I just thought I'd start out with
that story and then I was reading this thing this
guy was talking about because I always wondered about this,
all right, the.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Five second rule, Yeah, I was growing up. Kids.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
You drop it, Mom eills five second rule because Mom
don't want to have to, by the way, that thirty
minutes to let your food settle before you go in
the pool. That's bullshit. That's just so parents can sit
and relax. That's never never been medically or scientifically proved.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
That's just all bullshit.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
That's just so they could be, you know, sit for
a minute. But the five second rule, according to Nicholas Archer,
he is a doctor that did.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
A study on it.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
They put a Petrie dish out on the ground and
he said, there's instant microbial growth. I think I'm pronouncing
that correctly, microbiole growth. And he said, so there's no
such thing as a five second rule. It's a zero
second rule. He said, if it's on the ground at all,
it immediately starts doing whatever it does.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
The key Now, I don't know, you know, I think
deep down we all already kind of knew that the
five second rule I think was just put there to
make us all feel better about not wasting food or
eating dropping something like what for y'all.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
When I was a kid, it was a starving kids
in China. You know, they thought the Chinese were getting
ready to invade and when they flew a satellite over,
they were all starving, is what it was.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
You know, they didn't have any food.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
So in the nineties it was uh, you know, starving
kids in Africa about that from from different Uh. My
parents were luckily, or maybe not luckily. It might have
could have been better, who knows. But they were never
never one to search for an excuse to tell me
or a reason to use any kind of logic to
(03:44):
get me to do something. Either do it, or you're
taking the belt.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Or it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Starving kids everywhere, I don't I'm not worried about them.
I'm worried about you eating dinner right now.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
There was a there was some kids that are dripping
school that were the they're the animals, you know, the
pets or whatever they call it, the furry free kids.
God no, And I just I thought about telling my dad,
going on, hey Dad, I'm I'm gonna be a furry kid,
and I'm furry, I'm an animal, and uh, and watching
my dad, you know, just to want to see his
(04:19):
face me telling him that.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
You know, I think that that would have gone over
about as well as a turd and a punch bowl.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
And my my mother's big threat. Your dad's gonna be
on Friday, and I'm gonna I'm gonna tell him all
the ship you and Tommy did.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And well he'd.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Walk in the door after being on the road, you know, working,
and she'd hit him with it all the stuff we'd done,
you know that week. Bless her archer was like four
foot tall, and uh so he would pull that belt
off and here we go, you know, and this I mean,
you'd try to outrun him, you'd have your arm just
wailing on you. But it didn't make us any better.
(04:57):
I don't know why he would go, hey, you know
this is gonna turn him around.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Oh no, never did.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I don't think there was a lot of logic involved
in any of it. I think it was just more of, look,
what am I going to do? Try to calmly explain
the reason they should do this? Or am I going
to use fear as hopefully a successful tactic to prevent
When we got.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
In high school, I was, you know, I was sixteen,
I think, and Uh, and I was not fifteen. I
guess I weighed about one hundred and sixty pounds, you know.
And my brother was a noseman, you know. He ended
up playing at Auburn, but he was an there high school.
He was a it was a three hundred pound bench
in high school. Went on to be a four hundred
pund bench at Auburn. But he was a noseman, but
(05:38):
he could. He was huge. And uh, my mother was
four foot tall, and I remember her. She came in
one day they won state championship football that year. I
mean they were there in Birmingham, and uh, he was
eating a bowl of cereal and he had a big,
old jeth throw size bowl of cereal, and he was
he was eating his bowl of cereal. And his report
(05:59):
card had come. They mailed it. I guess as how
my mom got it. And she went in there and
she and he was a senior, and she said, with
grades like this, you will never get into college. And
I swear he was looking at her, and he went
and laughed at her, and I said, he can lift
three hundred and fifty pounds. He's And we've got a
(06:22):
letter from every university there is, you know, and uh.
I wanted him to go to Tennessee because I thought
Tennessee was with great school. But my dad had gone
to Auburn. And so he went to Alburn and walked
on and made the team and traveling.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Seam and uh.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Then he went back sophomore year and he was set
to go back his junior year. And I got him
a job on an oil rig in Alaska, Alaska and Odessa,
and because I had another body went to Alaska.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
But I got him a job on ol rig.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
And he got his foot cut off in a rig
accident and uh and that just ruined you know, of
course run his football uh and uh and my dad
blamed me for the rest of his life for that
getting him that job.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
But he could, you know, he could.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Come home, make a lot of money and stay you know,
working all the time. He could stay fit while he worked.
And then he worked out after you.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Know, his rig job. That anyway, I still feel bad.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
But he went on to coach high school football, my
brother did. They won state championship many times. He had
ten kids that played pro. Andre Risen was one of
my brother's high school kids.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
See that's where it's one of those that makes you wonder,
you know, if the as bad as the accident was,
if it hadn't happened, would it have resulted in as
fulfilling of a life that it didn't as it ended
up being. I mean, you can't play guessing game with it,
but it's it's hard. That wasn't what he was meant
to be. When you see results at.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
The you have to you have to think about that.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
He had over one hundred kids he got in college,
and I mean these are this was a poor black
county in Alabama. A lot of the kids didn't have dads,
a lot of them had any money. I mean, it's
a poor county. Tommy made sure that over one hundred
got into college on their football. But at least they
got into college. He got all of his kids still
stay in you know, stay in touch with him. But
(08:10):
he told me, he said Andre ask him about Andre Rising.
I said, because I guess that's his most famous player.
And he said he didn't even play football. He said
he was this little gang banger. It was his mouth,
you know, And he said, uh, coach, I'm the fastest
kid in high school. And the coach said, well, Andre
will never know because you don't barely come to school,
and you sure ain't on the football team. And he said,
(08:30):
get down and give me a fortyf you're so bad ass.
And my brother did and he goes.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Oh my god, get you.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, and he said it was Andre left and Andre
right from then on and uh. And they were in
another Soga, Alabama's where that was a little town outside
of Auburn. And that's the town where that that girl
that he married, Andre married burned the house down.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Remember Lisa, he left eye.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Or whatever her name was, because yeah, the old TLC member.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, she's a to burn the house down in that
town that they were in. And then Tommy went to Tallisa,
Alabama and coached up there and then he retired up there.
But he was he was it was a good coach
and he made the kids go to school.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
He worked. You know, he's like a dad for a
lot of those kids.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
And and I'm very proud of him for doing that
because he could have went and coached other places and
he didn't.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
You know, speaking of great coaches, something happened the last
one of my guy you might actually be familiar with
over back your Way, the the head coach at Wimberley
coach Warren Doug. I know Coach Warren, Ye was my
he was when I was in high school. He was
(09:43):
the JV coach and the assistant basketball coach at glen
Rose at my oh so the year after I graduated,
he got the head coaching job at winn and has
been there ever since. And he announced his retirement last year.
And seeing the flood of messages and posts and comments,
right all of you know, all of the kids, you know,
(10:05):
all of my class, all the kids talking about how
coach Warren changed their lives, and you know, didn't realize
it at the time when you're you know, fifteen sixteen
hot head, think you know everything, how the world works,
you know, And then you get you know, ten fifteen
years removed from him being your coach, and realize like, well, man,
(10:27):
I'm doing things this certain specific way what Coach Warren
taught me or because of the principle be instilled in me.
So I mean, there's you cannot I know, obviously, as
a diehard sports fan, I'm always going to preach the
self importance of sports. But you actly a few people
(10:48):
in your life have the potential. Absolutely the adult you
become more than you know. It's pretty much coach parents,
preacher coach that yeah, absolutely sure, slash coach.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
You know that.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
That's about the list right there. So shout out coach
Warren Wemberley enjoying them.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
He was a he was a great coach. I did
several things, was involved with him and super guy that
I didn't know he retired. I hadn't heard that, so
that that is, uh, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
But yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I mean that's your coaches as you're growing up, and
those you remember those coaches and those teachers, the ones
that matter that really helped you, you know, and you
learn stuff from. I remember Coach Long we had oh boy,
you know because my brother played there before I played
there and I played their sophomore year and it was
Coach Smith and yeah, I remember him going, you sure.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Ain't your brother.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I don't know what happened to you, you know, And
I go, well, you're you're like you're like a new
Rockney coach.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
That's a real motivational speech.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah what I don't know how to take that, Coach,
I'm not sure to make me better. The one advantage
so my little brother played, uh four years after me,
but I'm six four two twenty is like five ten
and cross country, you know, CrossFit kind of guy out
of body. So the fact that we played he was
(12:12):
a point guard and I was a big man, a
post So the fact that we played completely different positions,
I think took a lot of the pressure off of
him because he didn't have to be.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, he could be the guy.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
He could be the guy passing the ball, not the
not the big man doing the scoring.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
But I know a.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Few times it was outside of basketball, every other sport
or every you know, music instrument, anything like that. He
got all of the talent, but basketball was the one
thing that I could always yeah, I could always still
hold above him, at least slightly, at least by statistically
(12:50):
slightly above him.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
See, my brother got all the athletic ability, and I
got the bullshit as all I did.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
My brother he didn't get any of that.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You know, he's serious guy, but I got, you know,
the other side of it. But uh, I also did
much better in school than he did. But then again,
he could lift a car, so it didn't matter.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
It was off. He was strong.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
He had a beard when he's like nine or something.
You know, he was a man. The whole time of
growing up, you know, and I had the bluff in
nobody would mess with me because they thought my brother
would come because I had this I'm smart ass, you know,
I'm mouth off the people.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
And then my brother came along.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I was fighting this kid and I was winning, and
he grabbed my leg and pulled me down. And this
kid beat the snot out of me. When my brother
pulling my leg and laughing, you know. And and when
word got out that my brother wouldn't protect me, I
had people coming from other counties over to kick my ass.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
That's a big target on your back at that door.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah, people are like you brother, ain't gonna look at you.
I'll jump in there. I had to fight. My whole
sophomore year in high school was me just fighting people,
you know, trying to payback from them.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
And I couldn't fight for shit. I was. I couldn't
fight at all.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I mean, I didn't know how it never, you know,
I could get beat up, My brother beat me up
all of that.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I didn't know how to win a fight out of mighty.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
It was just what hope the experience maybe eventually, at
some point, maybe a little bit better.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I tried to joke my way out of it.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
That's I guess that's why I ended up doing this anyway.
That's I should be paying y'all to be laying here
telling all my stories from when I was a kid.
There like a psychiatrist laying down while we while we
do this show. But thanks for listening to the Mamma
Brown Experience on the iHeart podcast Network.
Hey, folks, Bamon Brown here on the BAM and Brown Experience.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
iHeart Podcast and Network.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Thank you so much for listening to me thirty seven
years almost thirty eight years in the radio in Austin.
And then we tell stories and just have some fun.
My partner the Big Puma, the Big Cat out of
San Antonio with a sports cave.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hey, I want to listen to that. What I gotta
do to get that?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Oh, it should be easy for you. We try to
make it as easy as possible. Anywhere you get your
podcasts naturally, as good company men like we are, prefer
you use the iHeart app, but I won't hold it
against you if you choose otherwise. Just anywhere you get
your podcast, search for the sports Cave with the Biggest Puma.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I don't know if you saw the story now. I
haven't traveled a whole lot. Went to go to Colorado
once a year, in Florida once a year. But a
Delta flight Boeing seven fifty seven, poor Boying man. If ever,
they've had more trouble in their lives anyway, a flight.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
From New York to LA Did you see this or
where they're.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Flying along and the ceiling fell out of the plane
and the passengers all had to hold.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
It up and then duct tape it till they landed.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
You know, It's like but it was just the inside ceiling,
you know, like a car, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, a headliner basically is what it what it was.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Uh, and they were it's on video, just fell out
and hit people.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
But it didn't wait very much and they were all
on that plane.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
You couldn't convince me that that wasn't the beginning of catastrophe,
even if you told me, just a headliner, it's no
big deal. Just hold it up, like no, this is
this thing's about to disintegrate. It's about to fall apart
in mid air.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
You'd go as soon as you get that ceiling put in.
Mamon was sitting in this seat right here. You're gonna
have to put a new seat in because he is
he's he's wetted on that one. I could have done
that anyway, been as old as I am. You know,
it doesn't have to be scared.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
That just happens. It's it's good stuff to look forward.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
To our flight.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, hey, Lee helped me out there.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Uh, that was I just thought I'd start out with
that story and then I was reading this thing this
guy was talking about because I always wondered about this,
all right, the.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Five second rule, Yeah, I was growing up. Kids.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
You drop it, Mom eills five second rule because Mom
don't want to have to, by the way, that thirty
minutes to let your food settle before you go in
the pool. That's bullshit. That's just so parents can sit
and relax. That's never never been medically or scientifically proved.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
That's just all bullshit.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
That's just so they could be, you know, sit for
a minute. But the five second rule, according to Nicholas Archer,
he is a doctor that did.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
A study on it.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
They put a Petrie dish out on the ground and
he said, there's instant microbial growth. I think I'm pronouncing
that correctly, microbiole growth. And he said, so there's no
such thing as a five second rule. It's a zero
second rule. He said, if it's on the ground at all,
it immediately starts doing whatever it does.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
The key Now, I don't know, you know, I think
deep down we all already kind of knew that the
five second rule I think was just put there to
make us all feel better about not wasting food or
eating dropping something like what for y'all.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
When I was a kid, it was a starving kids
in China. You know, they thought the Chinese were getting
ready to invade and when they flew a satellite over,
they were all starving, is what it was.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
You know, they didn't have any food.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
So in the nineties it was uh, you know, starving
kids in Africa about that from from different Uh. My
parents were luckily, or maybe not luckily. It might have
could have been better, who knows. But they were never
never one to search for an excuse to tell me
or a reason to use any kind of logic to
(03:44):
get me to do something. Either do it, or you're
taking the belt.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Or it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Starving kids everywhere, I don't I'm not worried about them.
I'm worried about you eating dinner right now.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
There was a there was some kids that are dripping
school that were the they're the animals, you know, the
pets or whatever they call it, the furry free kids.
God no, And I just I thought about telling my dad,
going on, hey Dad, I'm I'm gonna be a furry kid,
and I'm furry, I'm an animal, and uh, and watching
my dad, you know, just to want to see his
(04:19):
face me telling him that.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
You know, I think that that would have gone over
about as well as a turd and a punch bowl.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
And my my mother's big threat. Your dad's gonna be
on Friday, and I'm gonna I'm gonna tell him all
the ship you and Tommy did.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And well he'd.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Walk in the door after being on the road, you know, working,
and she'd hit him with it all the stuff we'd done,
you know that week. Bless her archer was like four
foot tall, and uh so he would pull that belt
off and here we go, you know, and this I mean,
you'd try to outrun him, you'd have your arm just
wailing on you. But it didn't make us any better.
(04:57):
I don't know why he would go, hey, you know
this is gonna turn him around.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Oh no, never did.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I don't think there was a lot of logic involved
in any of it. I think it was just more of, look,
what am I going to do? Try to calmly explain
the reason they should do this? Or am I going
to use fear as hopefully a successful tactic to prevent
When we got.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
In high school, I was, you know, I was sixteen,
I think, and Uh, and I was not fifteen. I
guess I weighed about one hundred and sixty pounds, you know.
And my brother was a noseman, you know. He ended
up playing at Auburn, but he was an there high school.
He was a it was a three hundred pound bench
in high school. Went on to be a four hundred
pund bench at Auburn. But he was a noseman, but
(05:38):
he could. He was huge. And uh, my mother was
four foot tall, and I remember her. She came in
one day they won state championship football that year. I
mean they were there in Birmingham, and uh, he was
eating a bowl of cereal and he had a big,
old jeth throw size bowl of cereal, and he was
he was eating his bowl of cereal. And his report
(05:59):
card had come. They mailed it. I guess as how
my mom got it. And she went in there and
she and he was a senior, and she said, with
grades like this, you will never get into college. And
I swear he was looking at her, and he went
and laughed at her, and I said, he can lift
three hundred and fifty pounds. He's And we've got a
(06:22):
letter from every university there is, you know, and uh.
I wanted him to go to Tennessee because I thought
Tennessee was with great school. But my dad had gone
to Auburn. And so he went to Alburn and walked
on and made the team and traveling.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Seam and uh.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Then he went back sophomore year and he was set
to go back his junior year. And I got him
a job on an oil rig in Alaska, Alaska and Odessa,
and because I had another body went to Alaska.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
But I got him a job on ol rig.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
And he got his foot cut off in a rig
accident and uh and that just ruined you know, of
course run his football uh and uh and my dad
blamed me for the rest of his life for that
getting him that job.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
But he could, you know, he could.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Come home, make a lot of money and stay you know,
working all the time. He could stay fit while he worked.
And then he worked out after you.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Know, his rig job. That anyway, I still feel bad.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
But he went on to coach high school football, my
brother did. They won state championship many times. He had
ten kids that played pro. Andre Risen was one of
my brother's high school kids.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
See that's where it's one of those that makes you wonder,
you know, if the as bad as the accident was,
if it hadn't happened, would it have resulted in as
fulfilling of a life that it didn't as it ended
up being. I mean, you can't play guessing game with it,
but it's it's hard. That wasn't what he was meant
to be. When you see results at.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
The you have to you have to think about that.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
He had over one hundred kids he got in college,
and I mean these are this was a poor black
county in Alabama. A lot of the kids didn't have dads,
a lot of them had any money. I mean, it's
a poor county. Tommy made sure that over one hundred
got into college on their football. But at least they
got into college. He got all of his kids still
stay in you know, stay in touch with him. But
(08:10):
he told me, he said Andre ask him about Andre Rising.
I said, because I guess that's his most famous player.
And he said he didn't even play football. He said
he was this little gang banger. It was his mouth,
you know, And he said, uh, coach, I'm the fastest
kid in high school. And the coach said, well, Andre
will never know because you don't barely come to school,
and you sure ain't on the football team. And he said,
(08:30):
get down and give me a fortyf you're so bad ass.
And my brother did and he goes.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Oh my god, get you.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, and he said it was Andre left and Andre
right from then on and uh. And they were in
another Soga, Alabama's where that was a little town outside
of Auburn. And that's the town where that that girl
that he married, Andre married burned the house down.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Remember Lisa, he left eye.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Or whatever her name was, because yeah, the old TLC member.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, she's a to burn the house down in that
town that they were in. And then Tommy went to Tallisa,
Alabama and coached up there and then he retired up there.
But he was he was it was a good coach
and he made the kids go to school.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
He worked. You know, he's like a dad for a
lot of those kids.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
And and I'm very proud of him for doing that
because he could have went and coached other places and
he didn't.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
You know, speaking of great coaches, something happened the last
one of my guy you might actually be familiar with
over back your Way, the the head coach at Wimberley
coach Warren Doug. I know Coach Warren, Ye was my
he was when I was in high school. He was
(09:43):
the JV coach and the assistant basketball coach at glen
Rose at my oh so the year after I graduated,
he got the head coaching job at winn and has
been there ever since. And he announced his retirement last year.
And seeing the flood of messages and posts and comments,
right all of you know, all of the kids, you know,
(10:05):
all of my class, all the kids talking about how
coach Warren changed their lives, and you know, didn't realize
it at the time when you're you know, fifteen sixteen
hot head, think you know everything, how the world works,
you know, And then you get you know, ten fifteen
years removed from him being your coach, and realize like, well, man,
(10:27):
I'm doing things this certain specific way what Coach Warren
taught me or because of the principle be instilled in me.
So I mean, there's you cannot I know, obviously, as
a diehard sports fan, I'm always going to preach the
self importance of sports. But you actly a few people
(10:48):
in your life have the potential. Absolutely the adult you
become more than you know. It's pretty much coach parents,
preacher coach that yeah, absolutely sure, slash coach.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
You know that.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
That's about the list right there. So shout out coach
Warren Wemberley enjoying them.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
He was a he was a great coach. I did
several things, was involved with him and super guy that
I didn't know he retired. I hadn't heard that, so
that that is, uh, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
But yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I mean that's your coaches as you're growing up, and
those you remember those coaches and those teachers, the ones
that matter that really helped you, you know, and you
learn stuff from. I remember Coach Long we had oh boy,
you know because my brother played there before I played
there and I played their sophomore year and it was
Coach Smith and yeah, I remember him going, you sure.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Ain't your brother.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I don't know what happened to you, you know, And
I go, well, you're you're like you're like a new
Rockney coach.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
That's a real motivational speech.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah what I don't know how to take that, Coach,
I'm not sure to make me better. The one advantage
so my little brother played, uh four years after me,
but I'm six four two twenty is like five ten
and cross country, you know, CrossFit kind of guy out
of body. So the fact that we played he was
(12:12):
a point guard and I was a big man, a
post So the fact that we played completely different positions,
I think took a lot of the pressure off of
him because he didn't have to be.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, he could be the guy.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
He could be the guy passing the ball, not the
not the big man doing the scoring.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
But I know a.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Few times it was outside of basketball, every other sport
or every you know, music instrument, anything like that. He
got all of the talent, but basketball was the one
thing that I could always yeah, I could always still
hold above him, at least slightly, at least by statistically
(12:50):
slightly above him.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
See, my brother got all the athletic ability, and I
got the bullshit as all I did.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
My brother he didn't get any of that.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You know, he's serious guy, but I got, you know,
the other side of it. But uh, I also did
much better in school than he did. But then again,
he could lift a car, so it didn't matter.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
It was off. He was strong.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
He had a beard when he's like nine or something.
You know, he was a man. The whole time of
growing up, you know, and I had the bluff in
nobody would mess with me because they thought my brother
would come because I had this I'm smart ass, you know,
I'm mouth off the people.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
And then my brother came along.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I was fighting this kid and I was winning, and
he grabbed my leg and pulled me down. And this
kid beat the snot out of me. When my brother
pulling my leg and laughing, you know. And and when
word got out that my brother wouldn't protect me, I
had people coming from other counties over to kick my ass.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
That's a big target on your back at that door.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah, people are like you brother, ain't gonna look at you.
I'll jump in there. I had to fight. My whole
sophomore year in high school was me just fighting people,
you know, trying to payback from them.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
And I couldn't fight for shit. I was. I couldn't
fight at all.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I mean, I didn't know how it never, you know,
I could get beat up, My brother beat me up
all of that.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I didn't know how to win a fight out of mighty.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
It was just what hope the experience maybe eventually, at
some point, maybe a little bit better.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I tried to joke my way out of it.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
That's I guess that's why I ended up doing this anyway.
That's I should be paying y'all to be laying here
telling all my stories from when I was a kid.
There like a psychiatrist laying down while we while we
do this show. But thanks for listening to the Mamma
Brown Experience on the iHeart podcast Network.
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