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May 12, 2022 49 mins
In this week’s episode, Medium Kareen brings on consciousness guide and astrologer Danielle Paige to discuss their experiences getting their breast implants removed. Danielle relays her struggles with her implants from their infancy; she describes feeling sick all the time and getting constantly misdiagnosed by doctors. Kareen and Danielle both share how the universe guided them to having them removed and explain how they felt post-surgery physically, mentally, and psychologically. Kareen advises everyone to be their own advocate in the world of western medicine. They also discuss food and the importance of listening to one's own intuition to decipher what diet works best for them. Danielle can be found on her Instagram and her website linked below.

Danielle Paige

Instagram: @iamdaniellepaige
Website: www.daniellepaige.com

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(00:08):
Hi, everyone, Welcome to thisweek's episode of Walking on Feathers. I
have a very very special guest.I wanted to discuss what I have been
suffering from. As you guys know, I've been sharing a little bit of
my journey. So I stumbled acrossDanielle Page. She's an amazing astrologer and
she has had a similar journeys asme. So I felt like it would

(00:31):
be amazing if we discussed and sharedour stories. Thanks for being here,
Thank you so much for having me. So can you discuss a little bit
about what got what brought you tohaving your breast and plants removed? Yeah,
so it was definitely a long journey. I in twenty seventeen, I

(00:54):
got super sick and I didn't knowwhat was wrong. I kept getting like
flu like symptoms over and over again, and they kept coming back, and
then I couldn't get out of bed, and I mean it was unlike anything
I've ever seen before. I probablygot the flu eight times in a row.
Severe severe flu. We're not justtalking a little cold, you know,
like severe. And then I,you know, and I never really

(01:14):
get sick, so I didn't reallyunderstand what's going on. And then that
kind of led me on this journeyof self discovery even deeper than I've already
been on in my life. Andthen I did a lot of alternative treatments
and through connection with spirit, theybasically told me to go get tested for

(01:34):
lime and epstein bar and when youhave And so I did have that lime
and epstein bar, and then youalso when you have line. We have
a bunch of coinfections. And it'snot just one thing. So if people
don't know I've never been sick,I bless them, But they also don't
know the whole journey of how yourdigestion's a mess, You get a mess,

(01:57):
your talents off, you have parasites, you have mold, you have
the coinfections, you have fungus,you have bacteria because you have an environment
for that because the acid is toolow so it can't kill everything off.
So anyways, that was a journey, And so I was so how long

(02:17):
did you have the implants before youstarted noticing the symptoms? Oh? I
had the implants for fifteen years beforeI was even anything. So here's the
thing. I want to say thatI was going to have lime and have
my sickness no matter if I hadthe implants or not. This is what
Spirit has showed me, because alot of people think, oh, just

(02:37):
I have the implants, and sothat's why I got sick. No,
that was contracted from my journey.I had to understand my self on a
deeper level and bring myself back intomy body since I connect and move out
of my body all the time thenand I needed to take care of myself
and nurture myself in a way thatI never did or was never So that
was contracted from my journey. Now, what they showed me is that implants

(03:00):
that was just another layer on thecake. So I would have for me,
I can't speak for anyone else.For me, I would have already
gone through the sickness of the healthcrisis. The implants were definitely another layer
of the cake. So around andwhen was it two nineteen I heard from
Spirit saying you got to get yourimplants out, And at the time I

(03:23):
was like, Nope, not happening. And one I was just too sick.
I couldn't even imagine that, Likethat was the last thing on my
mind. When I was that sick, I could barely walk to the kitchen.
Would you understand and I'm like,I'm not I'm not getting that out.
So I told them, Nope,not doing it now. Come back
to me when it's the last thing. And I honestly forgot about it and

(03:44):
my life still trying to heal myself, you know, my journey. It
was about five years now to date, about five years with my health crisis,
and then in twenty twenty one,I definitely feel like I healed the
line, you know, is theline we're gone? I don't know,
is a dormant possibly, But Igot myself to a place where I was
different and I was feeling different,and I was able to do things I

(04:06):
wasn't able to do. But Iwas still very sick. It was like
a different kind of sickness that Ican't explain unless anyone's bomb through it.
So I knew the lime had subsidedand it was getting better, but I
was still puffy, swollen. Imean, I didn't look like myself.
I felt like I was wearing arubber suit on my body all the time.
It looked like I was pregnant.I literally couldn't be in clothes like

(04:28):
I didn't. It was just horribleof the brain fog was so bad.
I mean it was bad. Sothen in twenty twenty one and around March
or April, it was I heardSpirit say they need to come out,
and I was like, oh shit. I knew at that time. You
know, when Spirit gives you amessage, you don't mess around, and
I knew. So I knew.I knew I had zero choice. So
I was like, Okay, I'mgonna win to make an appointment for one.

(04:51):
I was going to Florida to visitmy family, and I was like,
I know a doctor in Florida thatdid an xplant for three people I
knew, So I was like,I'll go to him because I didn't know
anyone else at the time, rightSo I'm like, I'll go to him
just for consultation. I'm not tellinganyone. I literally didn't tell my parents.
I didn't tell anyone because I didn'twant a minute to myself. Oh
God. I'm like, maybe it'lljust go away and I'll find other thing

(05:12):
and just you know whatever. Rightly, I totally go drive an hour down
to Miami from my parents' house,take their car because I didn't have a
car. I was visiting and Igo to this doctor and it was just
very clear. I didn't end upusing him. He was very kind doctor,
but he wasn't my doctor, andI knew that, but I didn't

(05:32):
end up using him. But Ileft that being like, they need to
come out. So then I dida lot of research, like quickly,
and I just knew. I founddoctor Fenged out of Cleveland, Ohio.
She's one of the specialists in theUnited States. She only takes them out,
she won't put them in. She'sbeen doing studies on women for years

(05:53):
on how dangerous they are. AndI knew that she was the one.
So that was it. I bookedmy appointment and then September first or third,
and thirty year September third, theywere out. And what I did
is over the summer. Last summer, I spent the summer really going deep

(06:14):
on my wounds and the little girlwho listen, there's nothing wrong if somebody
wants them, if they're like,oh, I'm plat chested and I just
haven't had this experience, and youwant them, I mean they are dangerous
for you, but I mean we'reall adults and people live their lives and
could decide what they want to do. But for me, I got them
because I got them at so letme tell you, I'm turning forty four
next week. I got them attwenty three, goody, twenty three years

(06:41):
old, and I went, Ihad my awakening at thirty, my first
one, and that's why I startedtalking to spirit. That's when I started
changing, becoming an astrologer, becomingspiritual teacher, talking about consciousness, seeing
beyond the veil. Right, mywhole entire life change. So me at
twenty three was not the same girlat forty three. Right, That's when
I got them out. And alsoit was the vibration just wasn't in alignment

(07:02):
anymore. Not to say that Ididn't want to keep them in, because
I actually did. I like theway they look, but there was just
everything was off. So anyways,I got them out. I didn't feel
like this is also I'm going tosay this because I know people were listening
in or like I have them andI'm fine. Here's the thing. I

(07:23):
don't mean to scare people, andthen people will get pissed because this is
what they do. I've seen thisonline. They're like, you're not a
doctor. Well, I'm going totell you the doctors don't know shit.
And the doctors actually telling you it'sokay when you have to put a black
box warning on them because they causedcancer. Spirit told me, if I
go down this timeline and I keepthem in, I will get lymphoma.
My limbnodes were so backed up Icould barely function in life. I was

(07:44):
gonna get developed limphoma. And it'snot a matter of if you're going to
get sick from them, it's literallya matter of when. It's a miracle
that mine lasted fifteen years, oreven I was able to function for fifteen
years, how sensive I am.And then after the line, my body
was like, absolutely not. There'snothing going in here that doesn't belong like

(08:05):
that. So it's funny. I'mso glad that you brought up the cancer
because that's one of there's two thingsthat started my journey. One I did
a reading for a client who washaving the similar issues that you just explained.
And then the second part of it, I was I was on Instagram
and mel Robbins had posted on herstory about how the FDA had just released
a chart of the implants and itwas like, to your A is most

(08:26):
severe or most aggressive type of cancer, And so I looked up my implants
and they were in TIERC, soit wasn't as bad like, oh yeah,
you can keep them in, butit was I don't think that shit
anyways, because it's also your body. I don't believe any of that stuff.
But the fact in my mind,the fact that they are cancer causing
and like I have, it's likeyou have a bomb you just don't know
what it's going to explode. Totally. That's exactly what I explained. People

(08:50):
don't want to hear it. They'renot ready, and I understand because trust
me, when they told me twothousand ninety they have to come out,
I was like, see you guys, I'm like, tell me literally when
it's like the ultimate, like rideor die, like it has to go.
And that was it because I wasn'tready. So I get it.
I get it. But here's thething. I wasn't going to yell at
other people just because I wasn't readyto take them out. You know,
people yell at other people they don'twant to hear the truth. The truth

(09:13):
is you have toxic bags sitting inyour body on top of your lymph nodes.
I'm leaching heavy metals through your body. It's just a matter of when
does that bucket fill up and thenit tips, So someone could have implants
and get you know, COVID,and or someone not have implants and get
COVID and be like okay and getover. And then someone has implants get
COVID and then it could kill thembecause their body was just a ticking time

(09:35):
bomb. And then you're gonna blameCOVID, but it's like, no,
it's all the other stuff you're doingto your body that people don't understand exactly.
So I've had a crazy health journey. These are the implants that I
just got removed. Were my secondthe first ones. One of them popped
and it was crazy how it happenedbecause I had one month left of the
insurance before it expired, so Ijust rushed and got the silicone implants in.

(09:56):
And then my friend passed away andI didn't feel like I fully healed
from it, and then I gotpregnant, and from that point on I
was sick for a good five yearsas well, and I was having significant
health issues. Saw a cardiologist,an immunologist, I had to see an
MS best specialist, multiple neurologists,and so they even now I saw if

(10:18):
you go get testing in July.But I like how you said that it
wasn't specifically the implant. Your bodyis inflamed because of the implants, and
if you have a predisposition to anyautoimmune disease, it can bring that autoimmune
disease out. So that was thecase with me the same I got to
I showed up for lines. Ihave a plethora of things that have been

(10:39):
made known, but I feel sostrongly that my body has been trying to
fight off this foreign object in mybody, and so it can't fight off
everything else. It's literally using allthe power in the immune system trying to
fight that off on a constant basis. So when then your body, my
inflammation has gone, I literally likea different person. I'm like skinny in

(11:01):
ways I haven't seen myself and I'mlike, oh my god, who is
this? But this is my naturalstate when I don't have toxic things that
my body is trying to constantly,you know, ight off exactly. And
then my body is now I'm gettingbody shamed on Instagram for being skinny and
saying I don't represent women, andI'm like, actually, this is my

(11:22):
natural state of I don't eat processedfood. I don't eat crap, I
don't eat sugar, I don't eatsoy, I don't eat gluten. So
this is my this is my naturalbody, and I'm finally healthy and I
can do stuff, you know.So it's like we get shamed for this.
We get shamed if you're that,it's like people just need to stop.
Really, I feel like you're leftand in that though, it's kind

(11:43):
of like like intuitively, I feellike that's pushing you into love yourself more
because regardless of what you do,if you're skinning, if you're fat,
people are gonna fucking bully you,So might as well just love yourself how
you are. Oh yeah, no, I have no problem that I'm thin
and people are bullying you. I'mlike, I'm just so happy that I'm
not. Like I'm literally was souncomfortable in my body because I was so
swollen. So like that's not myproblem if people literally that's not my problem.

(12:07):
Like I'm not concerning what people say. That's just my personality. I
don't care what people say at all, because everyone is so wounded and we
have to look in the mirror.We all have our stuff, but to
project your stuff onto other people.That's when people don't take responsibility, and
we saw that in twenty twenty twentytwenty one. Everyone's screaming their shit because
no one's taking responsibility and the worldis wounded. So that's why we have

(12:28):
to constantly continue teaching people to lookin the mirror, go do their work.
He'll cry, get it out,and then you don't have to yell
at other people. Right totally.I like going back to what you said,
how the doctors don't know shit,because that's been my experience for the
last year, where they like don'tknow what's wrong with me, and I
feel like there's this like invisible Idon't know a thing around me where it's

(12:50):
like affecting me and nobody believed meuntil and they still don't believe us.
They so people tell me the placeboeffect and I'm like, really, my
body before and after look at apicture. Tell me that's not a pleasy
bow, Like that's that's as.The craziest shit happened to me on day
two of surgery, and I wasstill I got so fucking sick from the
anesthesia. I mean I threw upfor forty eight hours. It was miserable

(13:13):
that was the hardest part. Itwas horrible. That's what I also picked
my doctor because she uses a specialanesthesia. She goes very light. She
unders like half holistic, half Westernmedicine. She gets it. That's why
I went to her. Dude,they pumped me full of like anti nausea
medication to put a patch behind myear I had to take. I stopped
taking the pain meds though on daytwo because I was so sick. So

(13:33):
I feel like it was a blessingin that way, where because I didn't
keep them down for sure, butanyway it was. It's been so surreal
because it's hard to explain. Againif you haven't experienced it. My brain
fog is gone. Before it washard for me to find words, and
I feel like I would talk slower, and it was just like, yes,
people don't understand. Yeah, Buton day two, I feel like

(13:56):
like I'm looking through life in adifferent lens, like every thing's clearer and
my brain is functioning in a differentway. I can't explain it. It's
it's I'm day two though. Thatwas day two, and I have a
shit kind of energy, and yeah, I'm still healing and I'm fucking swollen,
and I'm still going through it.I've only two weeks post off.
Oh I feel une. I couldn'teven function for like a month. I

(14:16):
was laying in bed. It literallytook me a month to come back to
myself. But my body is sosensitive, you know, So yeah,
that's no surprise to me. Iliterally I was laying in bed for a
month. I had a session witha shaman the day before surgery, and
I really feel like it helped meput a lot of intentions out there.
And I was like you too.I mean I booked my appointment before even

(14:39):
COVID happened, and then I keptrescheduling it because I was like, no,
no, And then after they saidthat I have lesions in my brain
and then I had to go Theydiagnosed me with pots and I had to
go see a cardiologist. I'm like, the spirit is like literally pushing me
into a corner, and like,when you're gonna fucking do it? When
are you gonna get them removed?And so I waited as well. But
it's just any how it all happenedbecause I didn't know that this was a

(15:01):
thing until I did a reading fora client and she was extremely sick.
And after that is when I starteddoing research. I found the group on
Facebook of breast implant Illness. There'slike hundreds of thousands of women. Did
you did you join that group aswell? Where there's a group on Facebook
it's called breast implant Oh yeah,yeah, I joined it. Yeah,

(15:24):
but it's like I can't because yes, it's good for some people, but
it's I actually feel really bad forhumanity. It's just a lot of people
don't they don't understand anything about health, and it's terrifying. It was overwhelming
to me. Okay, I wasgoing to say that I completely agree,
and I unfollowed it. I stillhave access to it, but I don't
see all the point. My pointin bringing this up was I did realize

(15:48):
how many people were being affected.So after reading their stories and seeing their
symptoms, it made me think,like, okay, there is a connection
to there is. But then alsopeople are literally going through surgery then eating
like drinking coca cola, and they'rewondering why they're not healing. And I'm
like, I don't even know whereto start. I don't even know where

(16:10):
to start. Like it's not justyou go to surgery and then you're better.
If you eat like shit and youfeed yourself shit, You're still not
going to be healthy. Might feela little bit better, but then it's
just like it's all. I thinkmy turnaround was so powerful, Like literally
it's like a before and after likeI've never seen before with me. Is

(16:30):
because for five years because of myhealth crisis, I had to learn how
to eat super clean, live ahealthy lifestyle, pray, meditate, red
light, grounding, sauna, colonixenemas. I mean, this is my
life story, this is my dailylife. So then when I finally got
there and then got them out,my body was like howllelujah, thank God,

(16:51):
and like everything just went running.Also, I didn't change anything afterwards
because I was still giving myself timeto heal. And I did get blood
work. So I got my surgeryin September, and then I got my
blood work in January. I thinkit was and I didn't change anything.
If anything, I was like workingout less because I was still going easy,
like not lifting my arms, youknow. And I my blood work,

(17:15):
my antibodies went from three hundred andfifty. I believe it was I
have to check out. I havein my notes to fifty just by taking
out my That's something I haven't sharedon Instagram that I need to share three
hundred and fifty antibodies, which youshave zero and they went to fifty.
So I'm still trying to heal mythyroid. And part of me doing this
was to get off my thyroid medicine. I take more natural thyroid medicine,

(17:38):
but I'm trying to get off thatcompletely, but I think I need at
least a year of it to getmy body settled for that and then go
off the men. So, yeah, we have such similar stories. It
was the same thing for me.I went and saw a natural path because
I was having extreme gut issues andI had seen normal doctors. I had
to have a colonoscopy and they couldn'tfigure out why I had such severe constans

(18:00):
patient. So we're so struck thoughin Western medicine that's the problem. Like,
I feel bad for you because youwere just in Western medicine loop and
they're not going to find anything andthat's disaster. But spirit for me,
they told me to stop Western medicine. Like within four months of my Lime
journey, after trying to go onantibiotic after antibiotic. They told me to
stop, and they pushed me inthe other direction. So I haven't gone

(18:21):
Western medicine at all. Besides mythyroid medicine, which I go to holistic
doctor, we go to compounding pharmacy. I don't touch anything with western medicine
because it's just going to keep youin a loop. So I'm surprised that
I'm just curious from like, youknow, girlfriend and girlfriend, like,
I'm surprised that you were down thatloop still because it's it's a disaster,

(18:41):
you know. Well, it waslike it's a stubbornness because I was working
with a natural path doctor and thenwith the lesions that they found in my
brain, he didn't know much aboutit, so it scared me. But
I haven't I'm not on any medicationor anything. But my point in bringing
this up was I had to cutout glue in and I had to eat
a clean diet as well. Icouldn't lose any weight. And so I

(19:02):
feel like, as you, Ifeel like spirit prepped me prior to going
into surgery because now I already havea healthy lifestyle. So I'm doing both
and I feel like I'm It's sofunny because yeah, I agree with you.
Every single doctor's appointment I've had isI never get anything out of it,
and I always cry in my carafter because they don't know what's wrong
with me, and then they justkeep pointing at each other. I don't

(19:26):
even do that anymore. I won'teven put myself in that vibration because the
vibration literally is not in alignment withanything of who I am. Yeah,
I can't even go. It's onlytime ongoing is if I'm dying in a
car accident, because it's emergency medicineand that's it. Okay. So it's
funny because yesterday I was thinking,am I going to go to these appointments
or not? I do want togo get my blood work done to see
to match up, but I wasquestioning even if I want to go get

(19:48):
all of these blood this blood workdone or these testing done for MS and
everything, because I'm already feeling somuch better. So I would just to
me, I mean, you doyou but these a loop and a spiral,
and it's a it's a lower vibration. So if you're starting to feel
better, get your blood work withyour holistic and see how your body feels

(20:08):
where was like, stop, they'sonly stuck with all the bullshit with the
Western medicine. It's just literally it'san endless cycle loop. And they put
you on medicine, they put youon things, and they put you in
tests. I mean it's a disasterjust even walking in there. The vibration
is so low frequency that I can'tit doesn't even align with who I am.
No, we're supposed to be happywith conversation because I've been at war
with myself and I feel like it'sYeah, so many parts of me had

(20:32):
have died prior to going into thesurgery and now after, and so I
feel like it's one more thing thatI need to let go. And it
fully resonates with me. I justdon't know why. I feel like I
need the permission too, which isanother thing that I'm working on. So
I'm glad that you brought it up. I completely agree with you. Well,
fine about this. I want theblock offline out of respect. Yeah,
but here's the other thing. Anyonethat's listening, I'm not telling them

(20:53):
not to go to doctor. Youdo you, I'm not telling you not
what to do. What I'm sayingfor me is it is a endless cycle
of a loop and a disaster,and it's only made me more sick.
So everything that the world has toldme not to do, is it what
has actually healed me with my experience. I have had to take time off

(21:15):
of work after going to doctor's appointmentsbecause it has given me anxiety and depression.
So and that I completely agree withyou, because I feel like my
soul is saying this isn't right.But they're telling me that I need to
do this, but I feel it'snot right, and so it's like this
clash. So I'm glad that you'rebringing this up. I think that it's
important, not just specific for breastimplant illness, but for other people.

(21:38):
You need to be your own advocate. That's one of the main things that
I learned through this journey. Inever knew how fucked up that the Western
medicine was until going through this.It's this is the thing is it's going
to trigger a lot of people.But until you understand where western medicine came
from, how it was changed,what the business is behind it, and

(22:00):
what the goal is to keep youin this loop, people they don't see
it. But also we saw thisin twenty twenty. Nobody sees anything anyway,
so I know it. I knowwe'll probably get some emails, but
I don't care. And the thingtoo, is like we're basing this off
of our own personal experiences, liketake it or leaving. They're gonna learn,

(22:22):
they're gonna learn, and it's justpeople hold on and they it's big
pharma medicine. They are not taughtanything except how to what prescription to give,
and that's it. To make money. It's big pharma. It's not
even the doctor's stall. Actually thedoctors are just unconscious. But it's they
don't even see the bigger agenda.It's a big pharma university. And of

(22:45):
course it's emergency medicine. And I'mso grateful that we have emergency medicine,
absolutely without a shadow of a doubt. But that's what it is. It's
not healthcare. It's sickcare. Yeahright. My husband was like, they
don't even like blood work won't showanything unless you're dying for the most part,
Like, well, let's talk aboutblood work for a second, because
what they test I was dying andthe doctors are like, your blood work

(23:08):
is fine, and I'm like,I can't get out of bed and they're
like, are you depressed? AndI'm like, I'm not fucking depressed.
I know what depression is. Iam sick. Something is wrong. It
was crazy. And here's the thingI want to say. With the blood
work, they'll test let's say Athrough D. Okay, A through D
is what they test. But Dthrough Z is the shit that you need

(23:30):
to test. And that's what theholistic doctors are teaching. They told me
I was fine. I had aboutfourteen coinfections with lime and they told me
it was fine. Epstein bar wasin a thousand. It's supposed to be
nothing. It was in a thousandmy numbers. Yeah, and I know
because they're not testing for that basedon their tests. Yeah, it is

(23:52):
fine because they're not testing the realstuff. That's what people don't understand.
I don't know the brackets though.The bracket is like for a ten year
old to like a nine year old, for male and female. It's like,
how are we in the same bucket? Like it doesn't make any sense.
Same thing for me. All ofmy blood work like it was in
the normal range, but either onthe high end or the low end.
And they keep telling me I'm fine, but well, why don't I feel

(24:15):
fine if I'm fine? Oh onepert, Oh my god. They told
me it was psychological. Oh that'swhat they do all the time. It's
just I mean, this is thething. Until you go through this,
you have no idea and then youjust see people they get in a loop.
They're sick all the time. Iwas in Western medicine. Hell,
when I was younger, I usedto be sick all the time, even
before my implants, you know,sensitive stomach, always going to the doctors,

(24:36):
always a thing. I found myold medical records while I was moving
and I had them literally since Iwas like eighteen to like twenty twenty five,
and I'm like, oh my god, I feel so bad for this
girl, which is me. Ifeel so bad for my younger self because
I was just constantly going to doctors, constantly doing stuff constantly. It's because
you're stuck in this pattern. Theywere just giving you more antibiotics that ruin

(24:57):
your gut bacteria, and if yourgut bacteria is you can't heal. You
cannot heal if your gut is off. So that's the first thing that people
need to understand is you need toheal your gut, and you don't heal
your gut by antibiotics. I understandthere's a time and a place for antibiotics.
Absolutely, absolutely, overall, nobodyneeds antibiotics the way they hand it

(25:17):
out, like candy, Well,it's funny that you bring up the gut
because that's been the source of myissue. And then well, of course,
because that wasn't if you wouldn't besick if your gut was fun I
know, but I thought it waslike all based off diet. And when
I changed my diet, I didfeel a little bit better. Cutting out
it's not enough. No, youhave to heal. You probably like that,

(25:38):
and so it's a do yeah,you do, of course. And
then so it's going into the crevicesin your body, and also parasites are
burrowing themselves in there, and soyou need to heal that. Otherwise you're
not even getting nutrients and you can'teven you could take all the supplements you
want, to spend thousands of dollarslike I did on supplements, it's not
going to go anywhere. If youhave legal gut, it's literally going to

(25:59):
go into the cracks. I know. I mean I went through five years
of this, I know more thanmost of the doctors. It's crazy.
I feel like that's what people don'tunderstand though, is when they say,
you're not a doctor, but weknow more because you've experienced more. Totally.
The doctors will still tell me,oh, yeah, you were fine.
No, okay, do you knowhow to detox? Do you know
how to open up your pathways?Do you know how to excreed this from

(26:19):
your body? That's when I started, you know, when I started healing.
When I went to this Aravatic centerfor a week. That was so
much money that they didn't have atthe time, but I was dying and
desperate and they gave me enemas twicea day for a week, and that's
when I stopped getting the flu.And that's when I started healing. And
that's why I started understanding, ohmy god, there's something here. And

(26:41):
there was times I would wake upin the morning and I'm like, oh
my god, I can't function,i can't breathe. And because I learned
about the vegas nerve right here,it's sitting on your chest. I didn't
know anything about that, but Ifelt it. That's how I learned.
I'm like, what is this healing. So I learned about the vegas nerve,
and sometimes I couldn't breathe, andthen I would go to the bathroom.
Sorry, Tom, but this isimportant. I would go to the
bathroom and then I would release thetoxins and I would actually be fine and

(27:04):
go about my day. And that'show I learned, Okay, you need
to sweat it out, you needto pee it out, you need to
poop it out. You have toget this out of your body because that's
the only way that you're going toheal from lime, right, And if
you're not pooping every day, thensomething is wrong with you. Oh I
was still and I was still sickbecause that's how much stuff is in your
body. You know. When Ifirst got sick. Spirit This is talk

(27:26):
about cognitive distance, and so listen. If people are not ready for this
conversation, I get it, becauseI'm going to tell you when I first
got sick, I went into thePashic records myself, not anyone else,
telling me myself, and they showedme a video or a video image of
all these worms and stuff all inmy stomach, and I was like,
oh my god. It was mortified. It looked like a dead person and
all these worms growing like over andI was like, oh my god,

(27:48):
and I just like shut that down. I was like, I don't know
what that was, and I ignoredit. Well, guess what happened three
years later when I discover that Ihave to start doing a parasite cleans as
well. What do you think,lime is It's all back to your parasites
are back to area and in yourbody. They're invading your body. So
I started doing parasite cleans and guesswhat was coming out for about a year
worms worms. They told me this, but coegnitive dissonance. I wasn't ready.

(28:11):
I didn't understand the concept that wecould have worms, but yet we
deworm our animals. And every culturedoes parasite cleanses except for US psites.
Everywhere you eat, you eat meatparasites, you eat fish parasites, your
dog becauses you on the face ofparasites, you put your feet in the
sand parasites. There's all parasites everywhere, water in other countries parasites. Yeah,

(28:36):
they popped up on my test too, So now I'm going to startacine
on that as well. Of course, you didn't have all this because it
all comes together, is what I'msaying. And most people have parasites,
and actually most people have lime.But if your immune system is working and
you don't have a heavy load oftoxicity in your body and your pH in
your gut bacteria is okay, youcan fight it off. What happens when
you have a ticking time bomb andyou can't and then it's a perfect storm.

(29:00):
So it's a perfect storm for you, and it's perfect storm for me.
And that's why all these other peoplegetting all these things, injecting them
in and they're like, I'm fine, I'm fine. Just wait until your
body has it, your bucket getsoverfilled, and then what are you going
to do then that? I mean, people don't want to hear the truth,
but you can't keep putting stuff inyour body and expecting to be okay.
Now, with that being said,I'm not saying be perfect, and
no one's perfect. There's toxicity inthis world. We breathe in the chemtrails.

(29:23):
I get it. But it's amatter of what can you remove and
what can you learn that you don'tneed, and then just move from that
place because nothing's gonna be perfect.We live in a toxic world. It
is what it is. But youdon't have to continually put more stuff in
your body that you don't need,right. I know, it's funny.
I just stumbled across that documentary aboutmakeup and the chemicals in it. Yeah,

(29:45):
of course. So it's so overwhelmingthough, because it literally is everywhere.
So I'm like, Okay, I'mjust gonna focus on one thing at
a time so I don't feel sooverwhelmed that I don't do anything about it,
you know, totally. And here'sthe thing is, like, listen,
if somebody is like, okay,I can eat any pasticides in my
food, I'm not going to dothis, and I'm gonna take my implants
out. But they're like, Okay, I am using makeup. But I'll

(30:07):
get there in time. Thankful,you'll get there in time, because yeah,
it is overwhelming. You have todo baby steps, but everything is
toxic. It's just a matter ofis it worth it to you to do
that? Fine, if you justlove that makeup so much and changes your
life, then maybe that is worthit. And then dump things on in
another angle, right, like youhave to balance life because life is toxic.
We don't live in the woods awayfrom five g away from all this,
you know, like we are andstuff, So like what can you

(30:30):
do away with? And then whatis unnecessary? And what is the program?
What are they pushing on you thatyou don't need? That's that's another
story for another day. I feellike everyone intuitively knows, though, like
we knew, we just didn't wantto know. I'm gonna tell you I
didn't know. I did not know, and twenty three years old in when
was it nineteen ninety or like maybetwo thousand or I don't know. I

(30:56):
didn't know then that these were badfor you. I'm going to tell you,
I didn't know. My anciousness wasnot there. The consciousness I did
not know. I asked the doctorif these were dangerous. You know what
the doctor told me, Well,the only things are going to happen is
you might lose sensitivity in your nipple, which I definitely did. That sucks,
right, but I did that.And they're like, you might not
be able to breastfeed, but mostpeople can. Well, I was twenty
three years old. Do you thinkI care about breastfeeding at twenty three years

(31:18):
old? That was the last thingI was like dude, I'm trying to
meet a guy at the bar.Like you know that that I'm at twenty
three years old. I did notcare about breastfeeding. But another reason why
I got them out is because mybaby that's in spirit, my spirit baby
talks to me. She's probably comingnext year ish around. She wanted them
out too, because so I wantto breastfeed without anything in there, because
I don't want to pass that on. I didn't know when I was twenty

(31:41):
three either, and I didn't givea bucket. Even if somebody would have
told me, I would have beenlike, oh, I probably care.
I was going bar hoppy and Ijust like badly hit and I wanted the
confidence. I'm saying that I hada feeling I kept seeing. I started
to see things, and but Istarted I didn't want to know. I
kind of turned the blind eye untilI told just like you all have it,
that's why people get mad and yell. So there's people that are going

(32:02):
to be mad and yell. Andso here's the thing. We all have
commnitive dispance, but like own whenyou have it, instead of projecting your
shit onto other people, like Iwas like, no, I'm not getting
it out and I lived on mylife. When they showed me the worms,
I was like, no, that'snot it. And I live my
life like I'm not going to yellat you because I saw worms, or
yell at you because I have toxictits. You know, like, come
on totally, I know, Iknow. Well if anybody I don't know,

(32:25):
I feel like those people that doget angry, they have bigger fish
to fry, like they have somehardcore motional issue that they need to work
on. But I feel like it'sour bodies. As we get older and
we raise our vibration, we arewe can't hold things like we used to,
like alcohol, like processed foods andsugar, where our body just starts

(32:46):
to reject it. I'm gonna tellyou I haven't had alcohol probably like I
don't know two a half three years. I just because I'm healing my gun
and everything I went through. OnSunday, I was with friends, I'm
like, I'm going to have aglass of wine. I love wine.
I don't drink to get drunk.I love wine. I love the experience
of it. And I was incollege. I did thesis on experiential marketing

(33:07):
in the retail environment with wine.I created a winery because I used to
be an interior architecture so anyways,I love wine and the experience of it.
So I'm like, I'm going tohave some wine. So on Sunday,
I had a half a glass ofwine. I've been this whole week.
I have welts in the back ofmy neck. I've been having fungus
come out of my body because mybody is rejecting a half a glass of
wine. So I was like,there's my answer, can't have that.

(33:29):
So I literally can't even have winejust so it's just I used to black
out after one glass, and soI'm like, I can't. I can't
drink anymore. Yeah, not fun. Really quick, I want to talk
about just the basics. I knowwe already did this, but I want
to make a list of the symptomsbecause I've got I've received a lot of
emails from women asking the symptoms,so I feel like it would be easier

(33:51):
if we talked about them. Sorain, fog, fatigue. I had
heart palpitations and then when I wouldstand up, I would see star ours,
and so they wanted to diagnose mewith pots constipation, A ton of
plethora of gut issues, and Ido feel like it started to affect my
mental health, so anxiety and depressionfor sure, it would create anxiety,

(34:14):
yep, what else? What other? Once? I mean the amount of
swelling. I had an inflammation inmy body because your body is trying to
protect you from a toxic two toxicbags inside your body. It's like,
I literally just I'm We're on zoomright now and I'm looking at myself and
I'm like, I just can't believehow small I am at the top.
It's just I'm a different person aftertwenty years. I haven't seen this,

(34:35):
dude, what I'm saying. It'slike so crazy for me. But yeah,
the inflammation was huge and I'm tiny. I'm five one, and I
was just like at my max,Like my body was like we cannot take
this, We can't take this.Inflammation was huge. The brain fog was
scary. I would literally I couldn'tdo podcast. I couldn't talk because mid
sentence I would literally forget you.And you can't understand how bad it is.

(34:58):
When I was at my height,I I literally couldn't look an astrology
chart. I forgot my name attimes, and people were like, no,
that's not possible. I'm like,yes, it is. It's scary.
I would slur my words. Iwould talk like yes and say things
yes because your cognitive abilities were gettingimpaired. The forgetfulness was scary where I
would be mid sentenced and then forgetwhat I was going to say, and

(35:19):
then I'm aware of it, andthen I wouldn't. It would scare me
like I thought I had was developingAlzheimer's or dementia. Yeah, no,
Actually it is developing that People don'tunderstand how bad it is. My best
friend she's so supportive and she's seenme over the years, and she just
said to me the other day,She's like, I you're back, and
I'm like, I am back.Because we would talk like every day and

(35:39):
I would always be like, oh, I'm sorry forgot and she'd be like,
it's okay. You were talking aboutthis, and she's so sweet and
kind and she would remind me andshe said, she's like, do you
see that I don't have to dothat for you anymore? And I was
like, oh my god, youdon't. And she's like, your fire
is back, and I'm like,I am back. I lost my fire.
That's the thing. Is I lostmy joy, my spark of life,

(36:00):
my everything. I'm a fiery I'ma firecracker, and I was jed
jed same. It's so funny.I'm so glad you're bringing this up because
within the last week I have alwaysbeen like, very confident, but through
this journey I became so insecure tothe point where I was making myself fucking
miserable. Yeah. Yeah, becausewe you're dying and you're becoming something that

(36:24):
you're not. It's not natural,right. The weight gain was horrible too,
and yeah, I just feel Ihonestly, I'm pregnant all the time.
Yeah, I mean I literally coulddo anything of like work at,
I did kickboxing, pilates, matter, it doesn't matter. I would run
about. I could only run likeone or two days a week because it
was so brused. So come tofind out, when he took my implants

(36:45):
out, he made a video andhe's like, based off of the capsules,
you had moderate inflammation. And he'slike, did you know one of
your implants had folded over? Like, oh, that's why my fucking tit
felt so painful. Who who tookyour Who was your doctor? Strawn?
All he does is take them takethe hairs out. He's in Newport Beach
in California. Oh doctor Okay,there was another doctor in Newport Beach too

(37:08):
that a lot of people doctor ChangChung. Yep, doctor Chung. I
believe. Yeah, a lot ofpeople go to him. A lot of
people go to him too. I'mglad to hear that your doctor takes them
out and doesn't put them in.And he's very here. I mean his
weight is like a year and ahalf. Yeah, I know. Somehow
I got into um to my doctor, which surprised me. But spirit moved

(37:31):
that around, so I mean,it all happened. It was all divine
timing. So yeah, I'm thankful, and I am very happy that I've
already noticed that I've been feeling betterbecause I know that I made the right
decision. It's only going to getbetter and better. Mine took me,
like I said, for a month, I was just my body was just

(37:52):
like, oh, you know,it was a lot. And then I
had an emotional purge of my oldself that I didn't I didn't know it
was coming because I had to purgeout my old self. So imagine,
people don't understand this is not justa physical thing. This is an energy
thing that you're holding, your energybody. So they had to move out
of my energy body, the oldvibration and the old density that was sitting
in my body. And so Iknew that, and I gave myself time

(38:14):
and I allowed myself to go throughthe process, and I grieved and I
didn't judge it, and I allowedit to happen because I knew what was
happening was literally moving out of myenergy body. That was it. Like
you, it's not just a physicalthe energy and that's what I teach and
in my body soul, it's allconnected for you. When I had message
here to be on the podcast,you had said, how great for you,
Like that's gonna make your gift somuch stronger, and I'm like,

(38:34):
oh my god, I didn't eventhink about that. Yeah. So I
had taken like six weeks, Ischeduled my schedule six weeks off. But
I've been feeling amazing and I've literallyjust been sitting around. So I did
four readings this week. Incredible,so easy, not draining at all,
so evidential and detailed, and soyou're at your full capacity. I was
fairly, I mean, I wassomehow running a successful business, but I

(38:58):
was doing it from bed. Butnow, oh my god, I'm like
NonStop with everything because I have somuch energy that I've never had before.
I know, it's just I'm soexcited. I mean, I was only
working two days a week before andnow I'm like, oh my god,
I might be able to open myschedule up like again. I feel like
I have a second chance at life. I'm so hundred percent. I literally

(39:19):
was reborn, so yeah, Ifelt like that too. I literally felt
like I was going to die duringsurgery and when I went and saw a
Stram and she's like, no,it's a spiritual death career, Okay,
yeah, And there's a lot ofemotional stuff that comes with it. That's
why I keep talking about it andpeople, you know, I get the
people like, oh, you getyour implants out and you think you're an
expert. I'm like, actually,well, unless you've gone through this and

(39:42):
you understand, I mean, likeI don't. I don't know. I
wouldn't ask anyone else who didn't gothrough this what to do and how to
get through it and how my beforeand after is insane for not even just
physically, but mentally emotionally, spiritually. I saw your before and after.
One of my friends when I keptputting my surgery off, She's like,
tell me, She's like, golook at Danielle. I just want you

(40:02):
to see the before and after ofher face. And so I did.
I'm like, holy shit, that'sincredible. I almost couldn't look in the
mirror for a year, and Ihad to still show up and do videos
and love myself. And I wasswollen af and I it was hard for
me to look at myself because Iknew it wasn't me. It wasn't just
like I always say, you know, if I'm over eating, and okay,

(40:24):
well that's me, and I'm choosingto do that and then but I
wasn't. I was eating like abird. I actually eat more now than
I do. In fact, Ihave to keep eating more because I'm like,
I don't want to get too thinnow, so I keep trying to
eat more and more and more becausemy body is just like, oh my
god, without all the toxins andchemicals and stuff, it's just happy,
you know, right. I now, I was eating like a bird before

(40:45):
too, but my body didn't reflectit because it was it was you know,
it was just it was so hardfor me too, but I didn't
let the stop me. I yeah, every day I looked in the mirror
and I was really upset with whatI saw because I knew that it wasn't
It wasn't because I was eating crapand gain weight. It was like I

(41:06):
had no control over it, andI had to accept that. So I,
like I said, I had todo lives, and I still showed
up. And if you go backand you look at my lives, you
can all someone needs to do iswatch the ebbs and flows. Because sometimes
at night my face will go downafter my limb notes would move through.
And then some days for a weekI was super swollen, but you could
see it eb and flow. Andthen after this like probably since October actually

(41:29):
no more like November, December tonow different person. You can just you
can scroll through my feet and thensee it's just like crazy. So it's
just going to keep getting better.Oh yeah, I mean I feel incredible.
So yeah, I'm so excited.But I want to say I actually
have really big scars. My doctordid an amazing job and there were barely

(41:51):
any scars, and then about sixweeks out, I got my body started
rejecting the stitches, so I gotan infection and then the scars expanded.
And now my scars are super darkdown because I got a lift, so
I have learned from my nipple allthe way straight down, so they're super
dark. And it wasn't the doctor'sfault. It was my body literally rejecting
the stitches. I was pulling outthe stitches I had pass coming out of

(42:12):
me. It was a horrible outof fever, like six weeks after.
So that's why. Like, Ijust did a photo shoot this morning and
I have massive scars. In fact, the photographer I was shocked she saw
them. She's like, where areyour scars? So I showed them and
she goes, what is that?And I go, what do you mean?
It's my scars? She's like whathappened? I'm like, I told
you I got an explant. That'swhy we're doing the photo shoot. And

(42:35):
she was like, ah, itlooks like a warrior. I'm like,
yeah, well it is what itis, right, So I want to
show people like here I am.I have major scars on my breasts,
but I'm still showing up and I'mrocking it, you know, like it
is just like I don't love myselfany less because of that paper sharing that
because I feel like that's the nextstage. I still have tape on,
so I haven't fully even seen everyYeah, you'll probably be fine. Mine

(42:59):
were so they were so thin whenI got surgery, I couldn't believe there
was like no scar and then Ijust got an infection and because my body
didn't even want the stitches in there. Literally I was pulling them out.
They were putting, my body waspushing them out. I mean, it
was crazy. So I'm like,okay, I can't even drink alcohol.
They don't even want the stitches inthere. I'm like, I'm a good

(43:20):
time. I know. That's howI feel too with the alcohol, and
I blew in all like, nodairy, just all of it. It's
like, but I feel good andI feel like that's one of the biggest
things that I learned from this isthat's all that matters to me. I
don't give a fuck if I can'teat a samp like right right, But
so you know too, the alcoholI still can't have. However, I
almost I can pretty much eat besidesdairy because I was I've been lactose intolerant

(43:44):
in fence birth, you know,even before the implants. Besides dairy,
I could almost eat anything now andnot get sick. So I choose not
well besides sugar, because it's thesugar is the same with alcohol, because
I still have a lot of fungusand mold in my body that detoxing.
But besides that, like before,I couldn't eat carrot, so I couldn't
eat I don't love bananas. Icouldn't eat a banana. I couldn't eat

(44:04):
this. I couldn't like I wouldget sick. But now it's like I
can eat almost anything because the bodyis just way more clear. Okay,
So I forgot to bring that up. So a lot of people say that
the allergies that they had prior toexplant, a lot of them go away
after Yeah, because it's just yourbody in defense and swollen and reacting.
It's like there's so many things.And then there might be a component in

(44:25):
an apple, There might be acomponent a carrot that just does not mix
with the mixture and the toxicity thatyou have. Right, But so now
again I don't have sugar because itdoes affect me the same with the wine
because it's the I'm still clearing themold and the fungus. But if I
feel this great with molden fungus,we're good. I know. They always
have a certain level of it inour body. It's just gets too much.

(44:49):
But we do need bacteria, wedo need candida in our body.
We just don't want the candida overload, right, And I still think I
have some of that because I'm proneto that. But yeah, so besides
that, the I don't eat meatbecause I don't want to. That's just
my choice. But there's really nothingI can't eat now. Really. Oh
my gosh, that's so hopeful.Yeah. Yeah, like I can go

(45:09):
to your rest are and just belike, oh okay, I have all
these things and I don't have toworry about it, you know. Um
yeah, so that'll get better too. Yeah, it's just it's like amazing.
Yeah, intuitively, I don't wantto incorporate meat back in, but
it's like when you go out,if it happens to be in something,
then cool, I won't be HopefullyI won't be affected by it. Yeah.

(45:30):
Me, it's an interesting thing andthere's so much controversy around it.
It's just like I think everyone hasto listen to their body. Meat it's
hard to digest, so if youhave a slow digestive system and you're trying
to heal your gut, probably notthe best. But at the same time,
you know, I understand the animalrights and all that, and then
you also have the other thing islike real meat, like not humped with

(45:51):
hormones, is actually one of likethe most nutrient dense products we have.
So I just think that everyone needsto listen to their body. And this
is this comes full circle to there'sno one situation for everyone, right,
there's no it's your body, yourchoice. You have to understand that you

(46:12):
what works for me may not workfor you, and that's just the way
it is. Right. We're allwired differently, we have a different constitution,
and that's the joy of getting toknow of like, no, my
body doesn't really like that, orlike, oh, like I have a
girlfriend she's like she craves meat.She's skinny, little tiny thing, and
she's like she can't stop eating meat, like she craves it. And I'm
like, Okay, I'm like,I do not want that in my body.

(46:35):
I think I'm like, I thinkthat would take me twenty five years
to digest anything, So like that'sjust an intuitive feel But like I don't
shame her because she does that andthat's what her body needs because she's listening
to her body and she's actually veryintuitive herself, and so she listens to
her body. And I actually respectthat, you know, right. I
feel like it's going back to thedoctor's stuff. It's like, you know
your body. So if somebody's tellingyou something and it doesn't resonate with you,

(46:58):
you need to listen. And Ifeel like that's one of the main
things that I'm learning. And Ieven now got more out of it from
today from what you mentioned. SoI have a lot to think about.
We'll definitely have to have you backon to talk about your astrology and all
your spiritual stuff. One of myfriends is taking your class right now,
and yes, and she's taking courseswith other people. She's like, no,

(47:20):
nothing's like like you you're That's whatI say. I'm like, this
is not your astrology class. Thisis an upgrade. And that's the thing
is, I'm not just an astrologer, like it's a cute name that people
give me. But I'm a guide. I'm a consciousness guide. I'm here
to literally help people awaken from theirdormant states of consciousness and just just hang
around for a while and you're gonnasee You're gonna see the magic. That's

(47:42):
all I have to say. I'mso excited for you. And yeah,
we'll definitely have to have you backon and talk about that. Yeah,
thank you so much for being on. And if where can people find you?
What's your Instagram handle? Instagram isI am Danielle Page and that's Paige.
My website is Danielle Page dot com. So Paig, okay, perfect?
And then do you have courses comingup? Correct? I have courses.

(48:07):
We just we're in level one rightnow. I have level two and
three available on my website. AndI have monthly moon circles for thirty dollars.
Those are humongous. They expirit laughsat me that I call them a
moon circle because they're like they're activations. So we're gonna start calling them activations
because they're they're not just little mooncircles or we gather around and they're up
virtual so you could be anywhere inthe world and they're powerful. I've been

(48:28):
doing them for like eight nine years. I want to go to the next
one. When the next one isMay sixteenth, for the full moon moon
or eclipse, I will be thereso excited. Amazing. Yeah, and
then I have more courses coming outas well, So okay, cool.
Well I'll put all of your informationin the note section and I'll post it
on my Instagram as well. Thankyou so much for being so open.

(48:49):
I really really appreciate it. Ofcourse I always am. This is me,
take it or leave it, soall right, guys, thanks for listening.
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