July 7, 2022 • 41 mins
In this week’s episode, Medium Kareen brings on Meli to talk about dreams and the meanings behind them. Meli shares her journey of what got her into dream interpretation; she realized that once she began setting boundaries with people, it shifted her perspective and her dreams reflected her new positive outlook. Kareen asks her to interpret dreams that consist of exes, animals, and babies, and Meli goes into detail on what the symbols represent and how they relate to real-life circumstances. Meli also talks about common dream questions she encounters in her readings and why some people don’t remember their dreams. Both of them agree that dreams are not meant to be feared; they are the result of the subconscious mind trying to bring attention to issues that still need to be resolved. Meli can be found on her website or her Instagram linked below.
Meli
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Website: www.thedreamingyogi.org
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Angelic Healing Circle 7/7:
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Meli
Instagram: @the_dreaming_yogi
Website: www.thedreamingyogi.org
Medium Kareen
Instagram: @mediumkareen, @walking_on_feathers
Website: www.mediumkareen.com
Angelic Healing Circle 7/7:
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/healing-the-heart-chakra-with-archangel-jophiel-and-mother-mary-tickets-374456257747
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Hi, everyone, Welcome to thisweek's episode of Walking on Feathers. This
week we are going to be talkingabout dreams. I have Mellie here,
who interprets dreams for a living.Hi. Hi, thank you so much
for having me here. I'm soexcited to talk to you because my dreams,
I don't know if it's because Ihave COVID or what is going on
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by my dreams, I've been crazylately. Yeah. I've been hearing that
a lot from different people, justwith everything going on in the sky as
well. Yeah. So how longhave you been doing this. I've been
doing this for about seven years.Oh that's a long time. How did
you get into it? Yeah,it was. It all started with my
own personal journey. I noticed thatI was having the same reoccurring dreams and
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that even though I was insomniac atthe time and dealing with panic attacks,
and I was just like, waita minute, this is this is weird.
What are these dreams trying to tellme? And just having that awareness
showed me the dream shifted instead ofjust stopping, it started just shifting into
a more positive dream. Until Iknow I was reflecting the inner work that
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I was doing with therapy and allof that. So that's why I became
super obsessed, like this is interesting. It was trying to tell me why
I was stressed in the first place. So do you mind sharing what the
dream was? Oh? Not atall. Yeah. So my dream was
that I was moving into a newhome that had the previous owner's stuff,
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Like there was so many boxes inthere, and I felt so scared that
like bugs were going to pop out, or just didn't feel like my own
place. And that dream itself kindof a lot of people just think it's
like, oh, normal, becauseI was planning on moving at the time,
but it was really saying that Iwas carrying on the baggage of other
people because at the time, Iwas going through a breakup and I was
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fighting with my best friend, andI was just like taking so many responsibilities
that weren't my own. And asI started doing the therapy and just kind
of reflecting on that, creating boundaries, the dream shifted to where I was
more excited about like what am Igoing to find, like a game board
or did they leave something cool behind? And problem solving, like, well,
maintenance could take care of it.I'll have a pizza party and my
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friends will help me. And finally, the last dream in that series,
I was in this beautiful home thatwas completely empty. It was only me,
my parents, and the landlord,and the door was very narrow,
meaning I was going to be selectivewith who I led in my life.
And also, yeah, my momhad made a comment about something she didn't
like, and I'm like, itdoesn't matter. I like it and that's
what matters, right, So Iwasn't going to be so focused on the
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opinions of other people. And thenthe dream stopped. Oh my gosh,
that's so cool. So as you'retalking, I reminded of I did.
I held this angelic healing circle lastweek and after it was all about inner
child healing, so I like ledpeople to connect with their inner child and
go through each age to like clearand healing. Blah blah blah. So
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that night I had a dream thata cheetah was chasing me. I was
trying to get away from it,and I was in this public place and
it was following me everywhere. Andthen I ran into this guy who I
dated kind of dated on and offfor like four years, and in the
dream, I was like following himaround in it, and I woke up
and I was like, wait,Like, why did I ever put him
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on a pedestal? I always didwhat he wanted me to do, Like
I changed my life for him,and I had like all of this awareness
that I didn't have before. Normally, though, I would be like,
oh my god, why am Idreaming about an ex? Is it a
message? Are they thinking about me? But now I don't. I don't
believe that. Like I feel like, if you have a dream of an
X, it's not because they're thinkingabout you. I mean maybe, but
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I think for the most part ithas to do with like unresolved wounds or
unhealed wounds from your subconscious is doyou agree or what do you think?
Yes, I completely agree, Andto the time, it doesn't even have
to do with that person itself.It's just reminding you of how you felt
during the time you were with him. It reminds somebody else in your life
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right now may kind of be reflectingthose traits. And also a lot of
most of the dreams are about thedreamer anyway, so some characteristics in him
that maybe you're reflecting more of orwant to reflect more of. If it's
something more positive but in a lotof situations, I see it as and
I've seen this with clients that it'show they felt in that time. What
was that lesson that came through duringthat time? That's trying to speak to
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you now, because that's how thesubconscious talks to us. It's so crazy
because it was so vivid. AndI've never ever had a dream where after
the fact I took a step backand I'm like, oh, that's what
it is. Usually like it'll hatme all throughout the day and I'm like,
feel like icky, and I thinkI think it's funny because you know,
you were scheduled to be on Sowhat do you think though with animals
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and dreams like cheetahs and lions?What does that mean? Yeah? I
mean animals are so interesting because theyreflect your animalistic, primal side. So
that's the one that I always recommendlooking at what the animal itself, how
does it act in their natural habitat, what is it you know represent?
Cheetahs are super fast. I feellike that's what they're known for. They're
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one of the fastest out there.So is there something that you're moving towards
that's really fast or asking you tomove a little bit quicker the lion with
the courage, So not only thesymbolic representation, but also how they act
with their with their young guns,like when they have babies, how they
are in their yeah, their naturalhabitat, because that's reflecting a trait that
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either again similar to the people,either you need to show more courage in
the sense of the lion, ormaybe you are already in a fast pace
in the sense of a cheetah.And they're all like feelines, right,
and that represents the mystery mysterious thingslife as well as independence. Yeah,
so I'm so intrigued. I lovethat. What about dreams about ghosts?
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Have you had dreams about ghosts orlike being followed by a ghost or being
scared by a ghost in the past, Because I'm like, it's so into
horror movies and I recently when somebodyasked me about this, but yeah,
like what I always recommend is lookat that symbol, like how would you
explain that symbol literally and also symbolic. So ghosts is like a haunting of
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something from the past. What isit that you haven't let let go of
that's still like an unfinished business inyour life? Not saying that something is
haunting you. Well, I guessthat would be the symbolic way of saying
it, what is haunting you inyour life? Right now? I feel
like because I have this repeated dreamI haven't had in a while. But
it's basically like I don't know,the seventeen hundreds and or maybe the eighteen
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hundreds, and it's a very oldhouse, kind of like the Whaley House
in San Diego. It's known asthe most haunted house in the country.
And there's this African American ghost that'sfollowing me around and I'm like literally hiding
behind curtains, like running away fromhim. Interesting. Yeah, and running
away is also like a really commonone chasing dreams where you are actually running
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from something that you are afraid ofin waking life. Huh okay, that
makes sense. Yeah, And nowthat you mentioned like the seventeen hundreds,
this is like one of the firstthings that I always teach about is finding
your baseline dream because there's so manyinterpretations and like, I started to work
through my anxieties, right, butin my studies, I've found and also
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it opened me up to other typesof dreams, like past live dreams.
So it could be showing something ina past life, you know, some
gift or some lesson that wants tocome forward here. And they are so
different that a baseline dream would showyou. What is a normal dream for
you? Is it usually blurry?Do you usually see yourself in first or
third person? And then when youhave a past life dream or a prophetic
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dream or something more spiritual, it'sgoing to stand out because you know already
what your normal type dream is.How that makes sense, That totally makes
sense, And how you said ifit was something that I was scared of
at the time, I was.I was working through I like literally had
my shaman come to my house andclear my house because everybody was going to
be gone, and I had tostay the night here by myself for like
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four or five nights, and soI was scared of like ghosts. I
do readings for a living, andI know it's ridiculous a medium that's scared
of ghosts, but like I don'tsee them. They're not physical, like
I connect with them up here andthen when I'm done, they go away.
It's not like something touching me orlike knocking on my wall. So
anyways, yes, at the time, it was something that I was like
trying to avoid that I was Iwas scared of but then I did finally
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get to the point where I'm notscared of him anymore. So, yeah,
you just made me remember that.Oh that's awesome. Yeah, And
that's a part of the work thatI do is not only dream interpretation,
but the dream healing afterwards or thealchemy. So once you get that message
in your dream, then what arewe going to do in waking life?
And that's where I use like othertools, holistic tools that maybe you use
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as well, like crystals, oils, all the things, and create that
protocol of what are we going todo now that we listen to our subconscious?
Oh my god, I love it. I haven't met anyone like you.
I've had a lot of on thepodcast, but you're you're definitely you're
different. Have you read a bookwritten a book yet? No, I
have not. I feel like you'regoing to You're like a real deal.
I feel like there's a lot ofbooks out there that I don't know.
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It's a lot about like fabrication andfluff. But how long have you studied
for because you seem very knowledgeable.Yeah, I studied this, you know,
back seven years ago, when itwas all supposed to be for my
personal use and everything that started helpingme. I'm like, like, for
crystals, my meditation coach gave meone. It was supposed to help me
with anxiety, and I'm like,I don't know how this works, but
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I feel oddly different. And Icould walk into work because I was an
engineer back in the day, andfrom there, I'm like, I want
to study, but the books wereoverwhelming me. So I just got certified
and then everything I wanted to dabblein I got certified and created like weaved
it into the dream work that Ido, even tero readings I do to
enhance the message in the dream becausesometimes you need a little more support if
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the client isn't really understanding or youknow, to hire. Yeah, what's
the common topic people come to youfor? Is it like I'm having dreams
about my ex? Or is itlike what is it? I do get
X questions a lot, but Ifind that the ones that they book a
reading for are the ones where peopleare afraid it'll happen in real life.
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So for example, like my childgot kidnapped or I was in a car
crash and the thought of was thisforecasting it is, you know, frightens
them enough to come for a reading. And I always say, like,
prophetic dreams are rare. They are, it happens, but they're rare and
there are some ways to see it. And that's where the baseline dream comes
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in. To know what you're normaldream is. Our dreams are so or
are subconscious, right, they wantto shake you enough to pay attention to
it. So they may have beengetting all these signs in like more colorful
dreams, but the one that reallyshakes them is the ones that are gory
or scary, or someone that theyreally care about is affected in the dream.
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And usually it's just you know,something about them being afraid of letting
go, or a project that theycare about so much, or something that
isn't about their family. Yeah,so I completely agree with you with the
prophetic dreams and they're not like howdo I explain it? Because I had
them as a kid, but itwas always like just like a little glimpse.
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Like for example, when I wasin fourth grade, I had this
dream of this guy wearing a hatand like it it's kind of like it
zoomed in and then it zoomed out, and then that was like my summer
school teacher. It was never likeanything scary though, So I completely agree
with you. They're very very rare. Yeah, definitely. And then like
the more works like you said youdo Mediumship, you know that opens you
up as well, because it's allthird chakras related to the intuition, the
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dream center. If you have troubleremembering your dreams in that center is a
one to work on. I'm gladthat you brought that up because a lot
of people that I work with saythat that they can't remember their dreams and
or they have a hard time visualizing. What I tell them to do is
focus on a different sense. Solike, if you're doing a guided meditation
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and if you have a hard timevisualizing it, then focus on the way
that you're feeling, and then byrelaxing into that feeling, hopefully it'll open
you up. But do you thinkthat people that have a hard time visualizing
or remember their dreams there's like fearblocking them. I wouldn't say. I
don't always say that it's fear blocking. What I think is that we have
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grown up so much into thinking thatdreams are just dreams like brush them off.
And we live in such a fastpaced life that when you wake up,
we lose about ninety percent of ourdreams within the first ten minutes or
even less. And since we're inthis fast pace, grabbing the phone,
alarms, waking you up, andthings like that, the mind just shifts
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into conscious mind all responsibilities. Somy first suggestion is just keeping the journal
next to you and even if youdon't remember, right, I didn't remember
anything today, if you have somemore time, just like but I felt
this way, you know, startdescribing the feeling when you woke up,
and little glimpses will start coming upbecause you're reprogramming your brain into knowing that's
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important. We have so much informationto retain every single day, in every
minute that we need to do someprogramming there. I feel like a lot
of people don't write them down though, because it's like there's fear there,
like you don't want to face whateveryour subconscious is showing you exactly. Yeah,
that could be the case too,And I also hear a lot of
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people just don't have time once againbecause of the busy life. But there
are other ways to like recording it, or if you have a significant other
or a roommate or someone that youjust want to that you feel comfortable sharing
your dreams because sometimes people can beafraid and then other people just other times
on the other spectrum, people justdon't know that it's important and they just
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brush it off. And you know, yeah, so can we talk about
like different themes, like what's acommon theme in dreams like cheating or like
losing a job or I don't know, you you probably know more than me,
Like what common themes do you see? I see a lot of baby
dreams and then people thinking like,oh my god, am I gonna be
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pregnant? But that's like the birthof something like I see this a lot
in like projects or tasks or somethingthat you want to that you care so
much about, like a baby.Like for me, I dream a lot
about work, but when a baby'sinvolved, like I know, I always
think about work and my work ismy baby. So it's just anything that
you care about so much. Yeah, another theme would be those babies.
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Those baby dreams scare me like no, no more. I do get the
cheating ones as well. And again, you know, it's remembering to always
bring it back to yourself, likeit's not that you are picking up on
something. I mean, you maybe right if you already have suspicions or
whatever, but most of the timeit's just an insecurity within yourself that hasn't
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been spoken about to your partner.And also never like you know, people
show up in dreams all the time, but not assuming that it's about that
person. Like like I mentioned before, it's just a trait about them that
keeps showing up. I work alot with suppressed emotions and anxiety. That's
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how I started and that's how peopleare finding me. Not exclusively, but
that's the main thing I focus on. So I get a lot of dreams
related to that teeth falling, youknow, meaning yes, fighting more than
you can chew in the moment,feeling overwhelmed. Also like it depends what's
happening, and all the symbols togethercombined for a very specific interpretation. So
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in my sessions, I really askmore questions and what I do saying like
this symbol means this, because it'salways going to be different, and I
don't want to put my biased intothe dreamer. Just like in the dream
dictionaries, if you look at them, they they're vague enough to where it
will make sense, right, Likeyou can have your own interpretation and be
like, Okay, I'm getting thehang of this, and then go to
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a book and be like, butthat makes more sense because you know it's
catered to like the wide public.But yeah, it's it's always going to
be biased to the author. Soit's just important to break down the symbols
for yourself. And I know Iwent on an attention like that. That's
kind of hard, Like I feellike those books it's it's it's difficult because
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it's kind of like me giving apsychic reading to someone it's and someone like
picking up that book and then readingit for themselves. Everybody's experience is different
because the symbols are different based offof your life experiences, right. Yeah.
Yeah, that's why you know,I always recommend your your best dream
dictionary is the one that you createyourself. Yeah. I really feel like
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you're going to write a book though, have you had have you thought about
it? I briefly thought about it. I have a lot of like courses
and videos, but I have brieflythought about it, and maybe that's something
that I should step into at somepoint. Yeah, I feel like it
should be how to create your ownlike dream journal or dream dictionary. I
like that idea. Thank you.Yeah, you're like super knowledgeable though,
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and I yeah, anyway, thishappens whenever I start today. Earlier,
I recorded another episode for the podcast, and I just intuitively pick up on
stuff because you guys are so open, You're so easy to read. I
mean that, And then I justwhy, Yeah, yeah I get that.
So do you do astrology too,Like what other things you do?
Yeah? So I studied astrology,crystal healing, terror reading, yoga,
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tea leaf reading, moodras. Ifeel like I'm probably missing a lot,
but astrology is one that I alsoreally like to see what's happening in the
sky, the moments of person hadthe dream, also for the full moons
and eclipses and everything. It reallydoes show up in dreams. And something
that I found really interesting is whenI started my dream journey with you know,
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dealing with daily panic attacks because Iwas a gooraphobic, meaning I wouldn't
leave my home for about a year. Yep, I've been there. Yeah
it's not fun. But years later, once I started studying all of this,
I'm like, huh, I wonderwhat was happening because I heard of
Saturn return and I was around theage, and literally the first the week
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that I decided to move back,and that whole you know months when I
started doing the dream interpretation like studyingit and yoga and everything, was the
exact week of my Saturn return.And that just like open me up to
like, wow, this is reallyconnected because I had no idea. I
was, you know, doing engineeringwork back then, completely different to what
I'm doing now, and I justsaid, nope, I'm gonna do holistic
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work now. So for people thatdon't know, can you explain what the
Saturn return is? Yes, Sobetween every Saturn okay, the moment that
you took your first breath, theplanets were placed in a specific location and
that's how you get your birth chart. So Saturn takes about twenty seven to
twenty nine years to make a fullrotation and return back to the exact spot
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it was when you were born.And Saturn, you know, it represents
It's like that wise mentor that Irelated to my mom because she's like a
full blown Capricorn, and it's relatedto the Capricorn. You know, it
rules Capricorn but if you are notfulfilling your life purpose, it's going to
put tests in front of you tosee like do you really want this or
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it's time to change direction. Andof course we have free will, so
I could have decided to continue doingwhat I was doing. But what I
found too in my own experience isthat since the planet is further out,
the further out the planet is,the more of an impact it's going to
have. It's not like it happenedthat one day and the days around it,
Like the Moon, since it's youknow, the rotation is quicker with
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the Moon. With Saturn, itwas a whole year of like building up
the anxiety, questioning what I wasdoing, where do I want to be,
you know, exploring it, findingexperts and I'm like, oh,
I'm intrigue, trying to do iton my own, and then all of
that to the peak and for meit took a year. So it's just
like a major life test to seeif you're on the right path. So
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is it every twenty seven years twentyseven to twenty nine. There are software
too, you know, I canfind the exact point of when it's there,
But with astrology, it's like abuild up, it'll build up to
that peak and then kind of youknow, it's crazy. I had my
daughter when I was twenty seven,and that's when my whole life changed,
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and that's when I found my giftand yeah, so everything that's just I
knew what it was, but it'sweird. I thought it for some reason.
I thought it was earlier than twentyseven. That's crazy. Yeah,
and earlier because just because of that, like riling up to that peak.
And I've heard that if you don'treally listen to the lessons during the first
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time in return, that the secondone maybe harder. So I'm calculating that
in my head. So that's whya lot of people who don't learn their
lessons in their twenties. Around theirforties, that's when there's like huge life
changes like divorced and moving and completelychanging career. You feel like that's why,
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Yeah, like the midlife crisis quoteunquote right where people are just like,
ah, I need a big change. Yeah, And there's other planets
that every planet is going to returnback to the same location. So the
moon is every month, the Sunis every year, your soul turn,
your birthday, but the Saturn onesince that's about like your commitments, responsibilities,
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and it's like the work planet too. It really wants to see you
fulfill your dharma. And we havefree will, so we just have to
listen and see the science. Ihad no idea about any of this.
I was just like picking up onthings and really wanting to, you know,
move past that because I didn't wantmy whole life to be in my
room basically, but it just ledme to hear. And I'm grateful for
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that because I learned so much andnow I can help other people. It's
so funny because I know, Iknow we have free will, but I
feel like as a light worker,it doesn't feel as free, meaning like
I feel like I know that Ihave to take this path whether it regardless
if it's hard or not. I'mnot good at lying to myself, right,
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Yeah, I can totally see thattoo. And if you look at
my chart, I have like grandtrines everywhere, which is like this huge
triangle over lapping each other. Allof my planets in Virgo in the house
of the work, so you know, and the Neptune, which is related
to dream work, is part ofthat grand trine. So everything related.
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Back when I first time, myfirst natal chart reading. It was just
reflecting back on you know, ifyou don't do some type of dream work
like you can do it for yourcareer, that would be advised. But
that is what is pointing at andit made a complete sense. So the
people that don't listen are the oneswho feel unfulfilled. What's my purpose?
Why am I here? So theyshould basically get an astrology reading. Yeah,
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I mean that's a great place tostart and see, you know what
the planetary influences are affecting you.And I find that, you know,
if you're not feeling fulfilled. Sometimesit's not really common to just think,
like I'm not fulfilled, what's goingto make me feel fulfilled? And the
way that I see that just likelistening to your body. If if you
are really fulfilled, it doesn't matterhow hard something is, like the work
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that you do and the work thatI do. It doesn't matter if I'm
up late at night finishing a courseworkor responding to messages or something, because
I'm fulfilled in that. But ifit's a boone call that it's not really
you know, in line, I'llbe dreading going into it or like okay,
I need some time off because that'snot really where I want to be.
Yeah, I think that's one ofthe hardest things I've realized is when
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you agree to something and then Idon't know, like you outgrow it pretty
quickly and you're like, oh,no, I was so excited about this,
and now I'm not anymore, andI have to be authentic and I
have to let it go. Ithink that's one of the hardest parts about
being honest and living your life fromyour truth exactly. So if you are
procrastinating something or if you're just puttingsomething off, it's like a good place
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to start really looking inward and saying, what is the block? Because sometimes
it is fear, but sometimes it'sjust is it not a priority and you're
forcing it. Yeah, that's funnybecause I've been trying to write a book
and I keep getting blocked. Imean, I have three kids and then
I have so much on my plate, and so that's probably a huge part
of it. But yeah, you'relike, you're making me think right now
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what I like to do. Sowait, do you do astrology readings as
well? I don't do them asmuch anymore. I really focus on the
dream work and if it relates toit. Like most of the time specific
dreams, I'll be like, letme look at your chart real quick and
see what was happening at that time, But I can't do astrology readings.
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Yeah, oh yeah. I meanI have a membership where I talk about
all of these things. So there'slike different months where we focus on different
things, and astrology is like thesecond month when people join that we talk
about that show them how to plottheir charts. So that's what I focus
on. Oh so that was gonnabe my question if you teach how because
I've been trying to find someone,but I feel like it's so overwhelming and
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I have a d D and soit's like really hard for me to comprehend
just the base. Yeah, sothat's what I share of in my membership,
the basics of it. It's thedream Mystics, which is like a
beautiful community of other seekers. Everybody'sinterested in something else, but the moment
you join, there's like a specifictopic, and then the following month you
get another topic and it just keepsadding, but they're the astrology topic in
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there. I literally show you howto plot your chart, how to see
your big three, how to seewhat's happening in the sky at the moment,
so I make it really comprehensible.I do have a bigger course that
combines dreams in astrology, and that'sfor those who want to dive into like
all aspects of it. I lovethat. That's so cool. So where
do you recommend someone? If somebody'sinterested in this, where do they get
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started? Yeah? I would startwith plotting your chart. There are free
places to do that, astro dotcoms where you put your information and you
just see it. It will giveyou, like possibly gives you like a
basic interpretation of each thing. Sothat would be the simplest one. Or
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you know. I do have likea stand still workshop on its own if
anybody just wants to look at youknow, what's happening the houses, because
when people look at it, theydo get overwhelmed. There is it's like
a pie chart with twelve slices anddifferent planets in each slice, and you
have to see we'll planet within thatslice, and then what it's doing to
other things. So I can geta little complicated, but at least focusing
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on your moon, your sun,and your rising sign will give you a
lot of information. Okay, butyou have a workshop that teaches as well,
Yes, where I show you howto plot it and yeah, is
it like prerecorded Yes, so peoplecan just go to your website and download
it and then do it on theirown time. Oh my god, I'm
going to do that. Yeah,that's so cool. Okay. So in
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a previous life you're an engineer.Yes, I was, and so then
you just had like a nagging feeling, like just not not happy or like
what can you share what happened?Yeah, I mean I'm a big nerd
if I haven't noticed already. SoI started with I always was interested in
psychology, but at the time,I'm like, well, I like technology,
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and I was really interested in,you know, engineering with my specialty
and computers. So I worked onthat right after college for about six six
and a half years, and that'swhen I started feeling like anxiety. And
I don't attribute it to the work. I loved who I was working with,
I love the work that was there, just that I noticed that it
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wasn't something I wanted to talk abouton my time off or as dreams.
I could talk about it like allday every day. But that's when I
started. As I was working there. That's when I started having daily panic
attacks that led to a hoophobia,and in my search of what's happening with
me, like I'm a really rationalperson if it's I went to the doctor.
They were like, you're completely healthy, you should take anxiety medication.
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And I put it off as muchas I could. I did go on
it for you know, a shortperiod of time. I found great professional
work workers like therapists, psychologists thatalways knew my goal wasn't to be on
medication the whole time. It's justI let it go so far that,
you know, it was it wasneeded for me at the time to just
give me the push to do exposuretherapy. But as I was working with
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therapists, I was also working withmeditation coaches and doing yoga and noticing,
you know, like I had likethis big aha moment during you know,
just a seated meditation position where likemy inner voice was saying like nothing is
worth all this stress, Like youwere going to be fine, and I'm
like, oh, okay. Soall of this journey for myself helped me
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just like find my path during thistime. And I remember starting a blog
back then, but it sounded justmore like a rant because I was just
so still focusing on myself and like, nobody read it, and nobody read
it. I'm sure I don't evenknow where it's at. But then once
I, you know, overcame itand I'm like, okay, just sharing
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my journey, other people asking me, telling me that they were dealing with
the same things and my tips werehelping, and then asking where could they
get readings, and I was stilldoing my engineering work from home. And
then I just decided, like,this is what I want to be doing.
I don't want to rush my dayfeeling like I can't wait to study
some more and share some more.And then I just took that deep dive
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of like, Okay, I'm gonnaquit this really profitable, comfortable, financially
comfortable job to fulfill my passion.And it's been so rewarding. I love
that I have such a passion.For anyone who has experienced anxiety or depression,
we have a lot in common.I had the same issue, but
I had anxiety all throughout my lifeand it wasn't until I got severe postpartum
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anxiety and depression after my last child, where I literally couldn't even drop my
kids off at school, I washaving intrusive thoughts and then I went and
saw a psychia trist and she wasincredible, and same thing. I was
like, did not want to geton meds, but it was to the
point where like I had to dosomething and change, and she knew too.
She was like, let's just giveit six months, Let's get you
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healthy, and then we'll talk aboutgetting you off. And honestly, like,
looking back, it was the bestthing that could have happened to me
because I realized through going through that, how I was over extending myself and
holding myself to like this, tobeing a perfectionist and doing everything for everyone
and not giving back to me.There was like just so much that I
didn't see that I had to seewithin doing the work, and the same
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thing I saw like normal doctors,and then I saw shamans and energy healers
and yoga and same experience. Isat down in meditation and my whole spine
heated up and I was like,what the hell is this? And then
I started seeing colors that didn't exist, and it intrigued me. And so
anyways, it's funny because I feellike a lot of us have the same
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path And for those listening who haveanxiety, I swear to you, I
never thought that I would be better. I mean, like, I was
drinking at one point, I wassmoking weed, I was taking medication like
anything to numb myself. And nowI'm fine. I'm like completely sober.
I mean I'll take melotone in hereand there. But so anyways, if
I can get healthy, you cantoo. So anyways, I have like
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this huge passion for people who sufferfrom anxiety because it's it's scary and you
feel like you're never gonna it's nevergonna go away. Yeah, it definitely
feels like a downward spiral. Andyou know, listening to your dreams is
just a way to open up towhat's really happening. What is it that's
scaring You're taking it a piece outof time and working through it. And
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I love that our stories are aresimilar and we have like similar paths even
though our different different modalities, rightright. I love the dream work though,
because if I would have known youat that time, I was having
intense dreams and I think I wasat the phase where I needed someone to
help me uncover them. There's alot of fear there as well, like,
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oh my god, what am Igonna uncover? But if I would
have met someone like you, Iwould have been able to like hit everything
head on instead of suffering so long. So I feel like what you do
is incredible because you can show peoplelike, hey, no, there's you
don't need to be scared. Thisis what your body saying, like,
this is what you're ready to workon, this is what you're ready to
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heal, like you don't need tobe scared of it. And I feel
like that's a lot of what yourwork is, Yeah, exactly. And
what I like to say too,is that the nightmares, even though they're
scary to see, because I've hadpeople say like what if I just prefer
not to remember them, or likeyou know, like revisit the nightmare,
but it's really just reflecting the nightmarethat you're living in waking life, and
it's just going to keep coming backuntil it's addressed. So you know,
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it's really worth it to explore it. And you know, just like in
my situation and other situations that I'veseen, the dream shifts into something more
positive. Yeah, And I seeit a lot of doing readings. It's
like pulling it's like an onion.I know everyone uses that as an example,
but as you pull back one layer, there's another layer there, and
it's not necessarily scary or something morethat you have to work on. It's
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a level of awareness that you getto attain, and then this piece develops
where you're literally living like you're thisauthentic, happy, peaceful life. So
I feel like, if you're avoidingit, you're just going to keep piling
shit on top of shit and you'renot going to be happy. So might
as well just deal with it nowexactly. And I'm also not saying that
I'm like never have anxiety at thispoint. Same same, yeah. I
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you know, I recently went towell maybe a year ago, went to
a wedding and everything was like crowded, you know, still covid Ish times,
and I remember having like that thatbrief moment of like the shortness of
breath that was one of my keysymptoms yea. And I didn't want to
be the weird one pulling out inessential oil and just like you know,
snorting it in front of everybody.So I just I just like did my
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moodras, my hand gestures that isreally discreet under the table, and I
took my deep breaths and it wasgone within a few seconds, and I
enjoyed the rest of the time becauseat least, you know, for me,
my fight or flight is more flight, like where's on of yours exit?
And you know, even though Ithought about it, Okay, let's
go to the restroom or whatever,I was able to control it there.
And that's what I love sharing aboutdiffusing the panic attacks and all of the
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stuff that we can work on inwaking life. But first it's finding what
the issue is the root of it, because without that, you can't really
resolve what you're not aware of.Right I still have anxiety here and there,
especially yeah, crowded places, ButI'll tell myself when therapist taught me,
like ask yourself in this moment?Am I safe? Yes? I
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am safe in this moment? Andthen if that doesn't work, why you
feel this way right now? Ninetimes out of ten, I'm neither overwhelmed
by like my work schedule or there'slike too much on my plate and I
need me time. So again,it's been like a lot of trial and
error for me to figure it out. And then once I start to notice
the symptoms, I will not,like I will take it a couple of
days off or do something so thenI'm able to diffuse it so it doesn't
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just keep on. But I feellike I had to go from go through
that journey of having such significant anxietyin order to like have to develop those
hardcore boundaries. Exactly, Yeah,exactly. And the one thing for me
about like all the tools that Ishare about is that every not only is
every person different, but also weare different and different you know, at
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different times, different situations. Otherthings will help. I can't always,
you know, drop to a child'spose when I'm feeling stressed, but I
can do a moodra when I'm ina crowd, or I can you know,
do a more elaborate practice if ifI need that meantime right and everything.
Yeah, different things work different forpeople. It's so funny because I
have lavender in my first and sayingI have no shame in my game.
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I will like literally pull it outand like, yeah, just if anxiety
is that bad and you literally feellike you're about to have a panic attack,
oh grab what you need. Yeah. Do you work with kids?
I don't. I have had peopleask me about that, and I prefer
to work with the parent because thecommunication is more. Kids want to talk
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about their dreams and they I findthat it's different because the way that I
work with them, I have thedreamer come up with their aha moment,
and it's harder for kids to findthat. So I my preference is to
empower the parent to be able tohave these communications with their kids and see
how to how to support them thereto have that awareness. However, I
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have shared a workshop on like waysto It was when kids are scared or
have a lot of nightmares and thingslike that. I have essential oils that
I make for that and different wayswhere you can make it fun for kids
to fall asleep and to help themif they have those night terrors. Yeah.
So I have a three year oldand he has night terrors and it's
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scary because he's literally not there andyou have to just like leave him alone.
And we notice like if his sleepingschedule gets messed with at all,
then it tends to provoke them.Do you have any guidance for night terrors?
Yeah, Juniper Berry is a greatessential oil for that, Okay,
Juniper Berry, Yeah, it's thenight terror oil actually, like good for
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nightmares too, and for kids,because kids like anything that's like playful.
So for example, if you createdyour own blend juniper berry lavender, which
is like mild sedative for kids thatare three, if they're like younger than
two, you want to dilute ita lot less. But if you made
like a spray and told them thatyou know it's your son, right,
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yeah, said that this is likea monster be gone spray or like this
is it's protecting you and like makingit more fun whatever character he likes or
show he watches, kind of makingit part of a ritual that's fun for
him. And also the properties aregoing to help. So for example,
I like spritsing it above my heador that can be a suggestion and as
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you're feeling, you're gonna feel likea little like you can visualize a little
glitteral falling down or like creating abubble and you're going to feel the sensation
of the drops falling. But addingthat visual and helping them feel empowered as
well, So that would be one. Crystals are a good one too.
Amethyst is a good one for nightmares, and that's something that's tangible that it's
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pretty. They can look at theyfeel safe and you know, by putting
it in their bed or creating agrid around their bed, like placing four
on each corner underneath the mattress,like black turmaline, which is good protection
and grounding. So there's crystals andoils that can be used for that.
They'll be fun for them, usestheir imagination because their visualization is like for
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the most part, really great.And we'll also help with those properties.
Okay, oh, I have somuch amethist, I'll put it under his
bed tonight. I love that.Well, do you have anything else you
want to share? I mean,my only recommendation is, you know,
wherever you are in the dream journey, just find what's going to help you
really connect to your dreams, whetherit be I'm sharing it with somebody journaling,
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or you know, making a voicenote to yourself. But try it
for like two weeks and just seehow much awareness is going to come up
for you. I love that.Yeah, don't avoid them. They're showing
you something. Yeah. So ifpeople want to get in touch with you,
how can they find you? Yes? So, I'm Melly the dreaming
yogi everywhere on Instagram. It's theunderscore dreaming underscore Yogi. You can find
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everything on my website, the dreamingYogi dot org, with a bunch of
resources like if you have trouble rememberingyour dreams, I have a workbook,
have a dream guide, meditation,and basically every tool that I talk about
I have a free resource on.So you can always just message me like
hey, I want to learn moreabout crystals, and I'll send you a
free guide. Awesome. That's sonice of you. I'll put all of
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your information in the note sections soyou guys can find it there. Thank
you so much for sharing your wisdomwith us. Thank you so much for
having me on your podcast. Yeah, we'll have to do it again.
I'm so intrigued. Yes, I'mexcited to talk some more and to how
about you? Okay, thank youbye. Guys. For information on how
to book a session with me,visit my website mediumcreen dot com. And
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for information to attend the Angelic KillingCircle that is tonight at five pm Pacific
Standard time. There is a linkin the note section. I'll see you
next week.
Hi, everyone, Welcome to thisweek's episode of Walking on Feathers. This
week we are going to be talkingabout dreams. I have Mellie here,
who interprets dreams for a living.Hi. Hi, thank you so much
for having me here. I'm soexcited to talk to you because my dreams,
I don't know if it's because Ihave COVID or what is going on
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by my dreams, I've been crazylately. Yeah. I've been hearing that
a lot from different people, justwith everything going on in the sky as
well. Yeah. So how longhave you been doing this. I've been
doing this for about seven years.Oh that's a long time. How did
you get into it? Yeah,it was. It all started with my
own personal journey. I noticed thatI was having the same reoccurring dreams and
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that even though I was insomniac atthe time and dealing with panic attacks,
and I was just like, waita minute, this is this is weird.
What are these dreams trying to tellme? And just having that awareness
showed me the dream shifted instead ofjust stopping, it started just shifting into
a more positive dream. Until Iknow I was reflecting the inner work that
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I was doing with therapy and allof that. So that's why I became
super obsessed, like this is interesting. It was trying to tell me why
I was stressed in the first place. So do you mind sharing what the
dream was? Oh? Not atall. Yeah. So my dream was
that I was moving into a newhome that had the previous owner's stuff,
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Like there was so many boxes inthere, and I felt so scared that
like bugs were going to pop out, or just didn't feel like my own
place. And that dream itself kindof a lot of people just think it's
like, oh, normal, becauseI was planning on moving at the time,
but it was really saying that Iwas carrying on the baggage of other
people because at the time, Iwas going through a breakup and I was
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fighting with my best friend, andI was just like taking so many responsibilities
that weren't my own. And asI started doing the therapy and just kind
of reflecting on that, creating boundaries, the dream shifted to where I was
more excited about like what am Igoing to find, like a game board
or did they leave something cool behind? And problem solving, like, well,
maintenance could take care of it.I'll have a pizza party and my
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friends will help me. And finally, the last dream in that series,
I was in this beautiful home thatwas completely empty. It was only me,
my parents, and the landlord,and the door was very narrow,
meaning I was going to be selectivewith who I led in my life.
And also, yeah, my momhad made a comment about something she didn't
like, and I'm like, itdoesn't matter. I like it and that's
what matters, right, So Iwasn't going to be so focused on the
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opinions of other people. And thenthe dream stopped. Oh my gosh,
that's so cool. So as you'retalking, I reminded of I did.
I held this angelic healing circle lastweek and after it was all about inner
child healing, so I like ledpeople to connect with their inner child and
go through each age to like clearand healing. Blah blah blah. So
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that night I had a dream thata cheetah was chasing me. I was
trying to get away from it,and I was in this public place and
it was following me everywhere. Andthen I ran into this guy who I
dated kind of dated on and offfor like four years, and in the
dream, I was like following himaround in it, and I woke up
and I was like, wait,Like, why did I ever put him
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on a pedestal? I always didwhat he wanted me to do, Like
I changed my life for him,and I had like all of this awareness
that I didn't have before. Normally, though, I would be like,
oh my god, why am Idreaming about an ex? Is it a
message? Are they thinking about me? But now I don't. I don't
believe that. Like I feel like, if you have a dream of an
X, it's not because they're thinkingabout you. I mean maybe, but
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I think for the most part ithas to do with like unresolved wounds or
unhealed wounds from your subconscious is doyou agree or what do you think?
Yes, I completely agree, Andto the time, it doesn't even have
to do with that person itself.It's just reminding you of how you felt
during the time you were with him. It reminds somebody else in your life
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right now may kind of be reflectingthose traits. And also a lot of
most of the dreams are about thedreamer anyway, so some characteristics in him
that maybe you're reflecting more of orwant to reflect more of. If it's
something more positive but in a lotof situations, I see it as and
I've seen this with clients that it'show they felt in that time. What
was that lesson that came through duringthat time? That's trying to speak to
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you now, because that's how thesubconscious talks to us. It's so crazy
because it was so vivid. AndI've never ever had a dream where after
the fact I took a step backand I'm like, oh, that's what
it is. Usually like it'll hatme all throughout the day and I'm like,
feel like icky, and I thinkI think it's funny because you know,
you were scheduled to be on Sowhat do you think though with animals
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and dreams like cheetahs and lions?What does that mean? Yeah? I
mean animals are so interesting because theyreflect your animalistic, primal side. So
that's the one that I always recommendlooking at what the animal itself, how
does it act in their natural habitat, what is it you know represent?
Cheetahs are super fast. I feellike that's what they're known for. They're
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one of the fastest out there.So is there something that you're moving towards
that's really fast or asking you tomove a little bit quicker the lion with
the courage, So not only thesymbolic representation, but also how they act
with their with their young guns,like when they have babies, how they
are in their yeah, their naturalhabitat, because that's reflecting a trait that
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either again similar to the people,either you need to show more courage in
the sense of the lion, ormaybe you are already in a fast pace
in the sense of a cheetah.And they're all like feelines, right,
and that represents the mystery mysterious thingslife as well as independence. Yeah,
so I'm so intrigued. I lovethat. What about dreams about ghosts?
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Have you had dreams about ghosts orlike being followed by a ghost or being
scared by a ghost in the past, Because I'm like, it's so into
horror movies and I recently when somebodyasked me about this, but yeah,
like what I always recommend is lookat that symbol, like how would you
explain that symbol literally and also symbolic. So ghosts is like a haunting of
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something from the past. What isit that you haven't let let go of
that's still like an unfinished business inyour life? Not saying that something is
haunting you. Well, I guessthat would be the symbolic way of saying
it, what is haunting you inyour life? Right now? I feel
like because I have this repeated dreamI haven't had in a while. But
it's basically like I don't know,the seventeen hundreds and or maybe the eighteen
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hundreds, and it's a very oldhouse, kind of like the Whaley House
in San Diego. It's known asthe most haunted house in the country.
And there's this African American ghost that'sfollowing me around and I'm like literally hiding
behind curtains, like running away fromhim. Interesting. Yeah, and running
away is also like a really commonone chasing dreams where you are actually running
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from something that you are afraid ofin waking life. Huh okay, that
makes sense. Yeah, And nowthat you mentioned like the seventeen hundreds,
this is like one of the firstthings that I always teach about is finding
your baseline dream because there's so manyinterpretations and like, I started to work
through my anxieties, right, butin my studies, I've found and also
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it opened me up to other typesof dreams, like past live dreams.
So it could be showing something ina past life, you know, some
gift or some lesson that wants tocome forward here. And they are so
different that a baseline dream would showyou. What is a normal dream for
you? Is it usually blurry?Do you usually see yourself in first or
third person? And then when youhave a past life dream or a prophetic
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dream or something more spiritual, it'sgoing to stand out because you know already
what your normal type dream is.How that makes sense, That totally makes
sense, And how you said ifit was something that I was scared of
at the time, I was.I was working through I like literally had
my shaman come to my house andclear my house because everybody was going to
be gone, and I had tostay the night here by myself for like
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four or five nights, and soI was scared of like ghosts. I
do readings for a living, andI know it's ridiculous a medium that's scared
of ghosts, but like I don'tsee them. They're not physical, like
I connect with them up here andthen when I'm done, they go away.
It's not like something touching me orlike knocking on my wall. So
anyways, yes, at the time, it was something that I was like
trying to avoid that I was Iwas scared of but then I did finally
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get to the point where I'm notscared of him anymore. So, yeah,
you just made me remember that.Oh that's awesome. Yeah, And
that's a part of the work thatI do is not only dream interpretation,
but the dream healing afterwards or thealchemy. So once you get that message
in your dream, then what arewe going to do in waking life?
And that's where I use like othertools, holistic tools that maybe you use
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as well, like crystals, oils, all the things, and create that
protocol of what are we going todo now that we listen to our subconscious?
Oh my god, I love it. I haven't met anyone like you.
I've had a lot of on thepodcast, but you're you're definitely you're
different. Have you read a bookwritten a book yet? No, I
have not. I feel like you'regoing to You're like a real deal.
I feel like there's a lot ofbooks out there that I don't know.
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It's a lot about like fabrication andfluff. But how long have you studied
for because you seem very knowledgeable.Yeah, I studied this, you know,
back seven years ago, when itwas all supposed to be for my
personal use and everything that started helpingme. I'm like, like, for
crystals, my meditation coach gave meone. It was supposed to help me
with anxiety, and I'm like,I don't know how this works, but
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I feel oddly different. And Icould walk into work because I was an
engineer back in the day, andfrom there, I'm like, I want
to study, but the books wereoverwhelming me. So I just got certified
and then everything I wanted to dabblein I got certified and created like weaved
it into the dream work that Ido, even tero readings I do to
enhance the message in the dream becausesometimes you need a little more support if
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the client isn't really understanding or youknow, to hire. Yeah, what's
the common topic people come to youfor? Is it like I'm having dreams
about my ex? Or is itlike what is it? I do get
X questions a lot, but Ifind that the ones that they book a
reading for are the ones where peopleare afraid it'll happen in real life.
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So for example, like my childgot kidnapped or I was in a car
crash and the thought of was thisforecasting it is, you know, frightens
them enough to come for a reading. And I always say, like,
prophetic dreams are rare. They are, it happens, but they're rare and
there are some ways to see it. And that's where the baseline dream comes
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in. To know what you're normaldream is. Our dreams are so or
are subconscious, right, they wantto shake you enough to pay attention to
it. So they may have beengetting all these signs in like more colorful
dreams, but the one that reallyshakes them is the ones that are gory
or scary, or someone that theyreally care about is affected in the dream.
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And usually it's just you know,something about them being afraid of letting
go, or a project that theycare about so much, or something that
isn't about their family. Yeah,so I completely agree with you with the
prophetic dreams and they're not like howdo I explain it? Because I had
them as a kid, but itwas always like just like a little glimpse.
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Like for example, when I wasin fourth grade, I had this
dream of this guy wearing a hatand like it it's kind of like it
zoomed in and then it zoomed out, and then that was like my summer
school teacher. It was never likeanything scary though, So I completely agree
with you. They're very very rare. Yeah, definitely. And then like
the more works like you said youdo Mediumship, you know that opens you
up as well, because it's allthird chakras related to the intuition, the
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dream center. If you have troubleremembering your dreams in that center is a
one to work on. I'm gladthat you brought that up because a lot
of people that I work with saythat that they can't remember their dreams and
or they have a hard time visualizing. What I tell them to do is
focus on a different sense. Solike, if you're doing a guided meditation
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and if you have a hard timevisualizing it, then focus on the way
that you're feeling, and then byrelaxing into that feeling, hopefully it'll open
you up. But do you thinkthat people that have a hard time visualizing
or remember their dreams there's like fearblocking them. I wouldn't say. I
don't always say that it's fear blocking. What I think is that we have
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grown up so much into thinking thatdreams are just dreams like brush them off.
And we live in such a fastpaced life that when you wake up,
we lose about ninety percent of ourdreams within the first ten minutes or
even less. And since we're inthis fast pace, grabbing the phone,
alarms, waking you up, andthings like that, the mind just shifts
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into conscious mind all responsibilities. Somy first suggestion is just keeping the journal
next to you and even if youdon't remember, right, I didn't remember
anything today, if you have somemore time, just like but I felt
this way, you know, startdescribing the feeling when you woke up,
and little glimpses will start coming upbecause you're reprogramming your brain into knowing that's
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important. We have so much informationto retain every single day, in every
minute that we need to do someprogramming there. I feel like a lot
of people don't write them down though, because it's like there's fear there,
like you don't want to face whateveryour subconscious is showing you exactly. Yeah,
that could be the case too,And I also hear a lot of
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people just don't have time once againbecause of the busy life. But there
are other ways to like recording it, or if you have a significant other
or a roommate or someone that youjust want to that you feel comfortable sharing
your dreams because sometimes people can beafraid and then other people just other times
on the other spectrum, people justdon't know that it's important and they just
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brush it off. And you know, yeah, so can we talk about
like different themes, like what's acommon theme in dreams like cheating or like
losing a job or I don't know, you you probably know more than me,
Like what common themes do you see? I see a lot of baby
dreams and then people thinking like,oh my god, am I gonna be
(14:35):
pregnant? But that's like the birthof something like I see this a lot
in like projects or tasks or somethingthat you want to that you care so
much about, like a baby.Like for me, I dream a lot
about work, but when a baby'sinvolved, like I know, I always
think about work and my work ismy baby. So it's just anything that
you care about so much. Yeah, another theme would be those babies.
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Those baby dreams scare me like no, no more. I do get the
cheating ones as well. And again, you know, it's remembering to always
bring it back to yourself, likeit's not that you are picking up on
something. I mean, you maybe right if you already have suspicions or
whatever, but most of the timeit's just an insecurity within yourself that hasn't
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been spoken about to your partner.And also never like you know, people
show up in dreams all the time, but not assuming that it's about that
person. Like like I mentioned before, it's just a trait about them that
keeps showing up. I work alot with suppressed emotions and anxiety. That's
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how I started and that's how peopleare finding me. Not exclusively, but
that's the main thing I focus on. So I get a lot of dreams
related to that teeth falling, youknow, meaning yes, fighting more than
you can chew in the moment,feeling overwhelmed. Also like it depends what's
happening, and all the symbols togethercombined for a very specific interpretation. So
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in my sessions, I really askmore questions and what I do saying like
this symbol means this, because it'salways going to be different, and I
don't want to put my biased intothe dreamer. Just like in the dream
dictionaries, if you look at them, they they're vague enough to where it
will make sense, right, Likeyou can have your own interpretation and be
like, Okay, I'm getting thehang of this, and then go to
(16:32):
a book and be like, butthat makes more sense because you know it's
catered to like the wide public.But yeah, it's it's always going to
be biased to the author. Soit's just important to break down the symbols
for yourself. And I know Iwent on an attention like that. That's
kind of hard, Like I feellike those books it's it's it's difficult because
(16:55):
it's kind of like me giving apsychic reading to someone it's and someone like
picking up that book and then readingit for themselves. Everybody's experience is different
because the symbols are different based offof your life experiences, right. Yeah.
Yeah, that's why you know,I always recommend your your best dream
dictionary is the one that you createyourself. Yeah. I really feel like
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you're going to write a book though, have you had have you thought about
it? I briefly thought about it. I have a lot of like courses
and videos, but I have brieflythought about it, and maybe that's something
that I should step into at somepoint. Yeah, I feel like it
should be how to create your ownlike dream journal or dream dictionary. I
like that idea. Thank you.Yeah, you're like super knowledgeable though,
(17:40):
and I yeah, anyway, thishappens whenever I start today. Earlier,
I recorded another episode for the podcast, and I just intuitively pick up on
stuff because you guys are so open, You're so easy to read. I
mean that, And then I justwhy, Yeah, yeah I get that.
So do you do astrology too,Like what other things you do?
Yeah? So I studied astrology,crystal healing, terror reading, yoga,
(18:06):
tea leaf reading, moodras. Ifeel like I'm probably missing a lot,
but astrology is one that I alsoreally like to see what's happening in the
sky, the moments of person hadthe dream, also for the full moons
and eclipses and everything. It reallydoes show up in dreams. And something
that I found really interesting is whenI started my dream journey with you know,
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dealing with daily panic attacks because Iwas a gooraphobic, meaning I wouldn't
leave my home for about a year. Yep, I've been there. Yeah
it's not fun. But years later, once I started studying all of this,
I'm like, huh, I wonderwhat was happening because I heard of
Saturn return and I was around theage, and literally the first the week
(18:48):
that I decided to move back,and that whole you know months when I
started doing the dream interpretation like studyingit and yoga and everything, was the
exact week of my Saturn return.And that just like open me up to
like, wow, this is reallyconnected because I had no idea. I
was, you know, doing engineeringwork back then, completely different to what
I'm doing now, and I justsaid, nope, I'm gonna do holistic
(19:11):
work now. So for people thatdon't know, can you explain what the
Saturn return is? Yes, Sobetween every Saturn okay, the moment that
you took your first breath, theplanets were placed in a specific location and
that's how you get your birth chart. So Saturn takes about twenty seven to
twenty nine years to make a fullrotation and return back to the exact spot
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it was when you were born.And Saturn, you know, it represents
It's like that wise mentor that Irelated to my mom because she's like a
full blown Capricorn, and it's relatedto the Capricorn. You know, it
rules Capricorn but if you are notfulfilling your life purpose, it's going to
put tests in front of you tosee like do you really want this or
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it's time to change direction. Andof course we have free will, so
I could have decided to continue doingwhat I was doing. But what I
found too in my own experience isthat since the planet is further out,
the further out the planet is,the more of an impact it's going to
have. It's not like it happenedthat one day and the days around it,
Like the Moon, since it's youknow, the rotation is quicker with
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the Moon. With Saturn, itwas a whole year of like building up
the anxiety, questioning what I wasdoing, where do I want to be,
you know, exploring it, findingexperts and I'm like, oh,
I'm intrigue, trying to do iton my own, and then all of
that to the peak and for meit took a year. So it's just
like a major life test to seeif you're on the right path. So
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is it every twenty seven years twentyseven to twenty nine. There are software
too, you know, I canfind the exact point of when it's there,
But with astrology, it's like abuild up, it'll build up to
that peak and then kind of youknow, it's crazy. I had my
daughter when I was twenty seven,and that's when my whole life changed,
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and that's when I found my giftand yeah, so everything that's just I
knew what it was, but it'sweird. I thought it for some reason.
I thought it was earlier than twentyseven. That's crazy. Yeah,
and earlier because just because of that, like riling up to that peak.
And I've heard that if you don'treally listen to the lessons during the first
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time in return, that the secondone maybe harder. So I'm calculating that
in my head. So that's whya lot of people who don't learn their
lessons in their twenties. Around theirforties, that's when there's like huge life
changes like divorced and moving and completelychanging career. You feel like that's why,
(21:44):
Yeah, like the midlife crisis quoteunquote right where people are just like,
ah, I need a big change. Yeah, And there's other planets
that every planet is going to returnback to the same location. So the
moon is every month, the Sunis every year, your soul turn,
your birthday, but the Saturn onesince that's about like your commitments, responsibilities,
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and it's like the work planet too. It really wants to see you
fulfill your dharma. And we havefree will, so we just have to
listen and see the science. Ihad no idea about any of this.
I was just like picking up onthings and really wanting to, you know,
move past that because I didn't wantmy whole life to be in my
room basically, but it just ledme to hear. And I'm grateful for
(22:27):
that because I learned so much andnow I can help other people. It's
so funny because I know, Iknow we have free will, but I
feel like as a light worker,it doesn't feel as free, meaning like
I feel like I know that Ihave to take this path whether it regardless
if it's hard or not. I'mnot good at lying to myself, right,
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Yeah, I can totally see thattoo. And if you look at
my chart, I have like grandtrines everywhere, which is like this huge
triangle over lapping each other. Allof my planets in Virgo in the house
of the work, so you know, and the Neptune, which is related
to dream work, is part ofthat grand trine. So everything related.
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Back when I first time, myfirst natal chart reading. It was just
reflecting back on you know, ifyou don't do some type of dream work
like you can do it for yourcareer, that would be advised. But
that is what is pointing at andit made a complete sense. So the
people that don't listen are the oneswho feel unfulfilled. What's my purpose?
Why am I here? So theyshould basically get an astrology reading. Yeah,
(23:36):
I mean that's a great place tostart and see, you know what
the planetary influences are affecting you.And I find that, you know,
if you're not feeling fulfilled. Sometimesit's not really common to just think,
like I'm not fulfilled, what's goingto make me feel fulfilled? And the
way that I see that just likelistening to your body. If if you
are really fulfilled, it doesn't matterhow hard something is, like the work
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that you do and the work thatI do. It doesn't matter if I'm
up late at night finishing a courseworkor responding to messages or something, because
I'm fulfilled in that. But ifit's a boone call that it's not really
you know, in line, I'llbe dreading going into it or like okay,
I need some time off because that'snot really where I want to be.
Yeah, I think that's one ofthe hardest things I've realized is when
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you agree to something and then Idon't know, like you outgrow it pretty
quickly and you're like, oh,no, I was so excited about this,
and now I'm not anymore, andI have to be authentic and I
have to let it go. Ithink that's one of the hardest parts about
being honest and living your life fromyour truth exactly. So if you are
procrastinating something or if you're just puttingsomething off, it's like a good place
(24:47):
to start really looking inward and saying, what is the block? Because sometimes
it is fear, but sometimes it'sjust is it not a priority and you're
forcing it. Yeah, that's funnybecause I've been trying to write a book
and I keep getting blocked. Imean, I have three kids and then
I have so much on my plate, and so that's probably a huge part
of it. But yeah, you'relike, you're making me think right now
(25:11):
what I like to do. Sowait, do you do astrology readings as
well? I don't do them asmuch anymore. I really focus on the
dream work and if it relates toit. Like most of the time specific
dreams, I'll be like, letme look at your chart real quick and
see what was happening at that time, But I can't do astrology readings.
(25:33):
Yeah, oh yeah. I meanI have a membership where I talk about
all of these things. So there'slike different months where we focus on different
things, and astrology is like thesecond month when people join that we talk
about that show them how to plottheir charts. So that's what I focus
on. Oh so that was gonnabe my question if you teach how because
I've been trying to find someone,but I feel like it's so overwhelming and
(25:55):
I have a d D and soit's like really hard for me to comprehend
just the base. Yeah, sothat's what I share of in my membership,
the basics of it. It's thedream Mystics, which is like a
beautiful community of other seekers. Everybody'sinterested in something else, but the moment
you join, there's like a specifictopic, and then the following month you
get another topic and it just keepsadding, but they're the astrology topic in
(26:19):
there. I literally show you howto plot your chart, how to see
your big three, how to seewhat's happening in the sky at the moment,
so I make it really comprehensible.I do have a bigger course that
combines dreams in astrology, and that'sfor those who want to dive into like
all aspects of it. I lovethat. That's so cool. So where
do you recommend someone? If somebody'sinterested in this, where do they get
(26:42):
started? Yeah? I would startwith plotting your chart. There are free
places to do that, astro dotcoms where you put your information and you
just see it. It will giveyou, like possibly gives you like a
basic interpretation of each thing. Sothat would be the simplest one. Or
(27:03):
you know. I do have likea stand still workshop on its own if
anybody just wants to look at youknow, what's happening the houses, because
when people look at it, theydo get overwhelmed. There is it's like
a pie chart with twelve slices anddifferent planets in each slice, and you
have to see we'll planet within thatslice, and then what it's doing to
other things. So I can geta little complicated, but at least focusing
(27:27):
on your moon, your sun,and your rising sign will give you a
lot of information. Okay, butyou have a workshop that teaches as well,
Yes, where I show you howto plot it and yeah, is
it like prerecorded Yes, so peoplecan just go to your website and download
it and then do it on theirown time. Oh my god, I'm
going to do that. Yeah,that's so cool. Okay. So in
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a previous life you're an engineer.Yes, I was, and so then
you just had like a nagging feeling, like just not not happy or like
what can you share what happened?Yeah, I mean I'm a big nerd
if I haven't noticed already. SoI started with I always was interested in
psychology, but at the time,I'm like, well, I like technology,
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and I was really interested in,you know, engineering with my specialty
and computers. So I worked onthat right after college for about six six
and a half years, and that'swhen I started feeling like anxiety. And
I don't attribute it to the work. I loved who I was working with,
I love the work that was there, just that I noticed that it
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wasn't something I wanted to talk abouton my time off or as dreams.
I could talk about it like allday every day. But that's when I
started. As I was working there. That's when I started having daily panic
attacks that led to a hoophobia,and in my search of what's happening with
me, like I'm a really rationalperson if it's I went to the doctor.
They were like, you're completely healthy, you should take anxiety medication.
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And I put it off as muchas I could. I did go on
it for you know, a shortperiod of time. I found great professional
work workers like therapists, psychologists thatalways knew my goal wasn't to be on
medication the whole time. It's justI let it go so far that,
you know, it was it wasneeded for me at the time to just
give me the push to do exposuretherapy. But as I was working with
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therapists, I was also working withmeditation coaches and doing yoga and noticing,
you know, like I had likethis big aha moment during you know,
just a seated meditation position where likemy inner voice was saying like nothing is
worth all this stress, Like youwere going to be fine, and I'm
like, oh, okay. Soall of this journey for myself helped me
(29:41):
just like find my path during thistime. And I remember starting a blog
back then, but it sounded justmore like a rant because I was just
so still focusing on myself and like, nobody read it, and nobody read
it. I'm sure I don't evenknow where it's at. But then once
I, you know, overcame itand I'm like, okay, just sharing
(30:03):
my journey, other people asking me, telling me that they were dealing with
the same things and my tips werehelping, and then asking where could they
get readings, and I was stilldoing my engineering work from home. And
then I just decided, like,this is what I want to be doing.
I don't want to rush my dayfeeling like I can't wait to study
some more and share some more.And then I just took that deep dive
(30:25):
of like, Okay, I'm gonnaquit this really profitable, comfortable, financially
comfortable job to fulfill my passion.And it's been so rewarding. I love
that I have such a passion.For anyone who has experienced anxiety or depression,
we have a lot in common.I had the same issue, but
I had anxiety all throughout my lifeand it wasn't until I got severe postpartum
(30:48):
anxiety and depression after my last child, where I literally couldn't even drop my
kids off at school, I washaving intrusive thoughts and then I went and
saw a psychia trist and she wasincredible, and same thing. I was
like, did not want to geton meds, but it was to the
point where like I had to dosomething and change, and she knew too.
She was like, let's just giveit six months, Let's get you
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healthy, and then we'll talk aboutgetting you off. And honestly, like,
looking back, it was the bestthing that could have happened to me
because I realized through going through that, how I was over extending myself and
holding myself to like this, tobeing a perfectionist and doing everything for everyone
and not giving back to me.There was like just so much that I
didn't see that I had to seewithin doing the work, and the same
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thing I saw like normal doctors,and then I saw shamans and energy healers
and yoga and same experience. Isat down in meditation and my whole spine
heated up and I was like,what the hell is this? And then
I started seeing colors that didn't exist, and it intrigued me. And so
anyways, it's funny because I feellike a lot of us have the same
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path And for those listening who haveanxiety, I swear to you, I
never thought that I would be better. I mean, like, I was
drinking at one point, I wassmoking weed, I was taking medication like
anything to numb myself. And nowI'm fine. I'm like completely sober.
I mean I'll take melotone in hereand there. But so anyways, if
I can get healthy, you cantoo. So anyways, I have like
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this huge passion for people who sufferfrom anxiety because it's it's scary and you
feel like you're never gonna it's nevergonna go away. Yeah, it definitely
feels like a downward spiral. Andyou know, listening to your dreams is
just a way to open up towhat's really happening. What is it that's
scaring You're taking it a piece outof time and working through it. And
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I love that our stories are aresimilar and we have like similar paths even
though our different different modalities, rightright. I love the dream work though,
because if I would have known youat that time, I was having
intense dreams and I think I wasat the phase where I needed someone to
help me uncover them. There's alot of fear there as well, like,
(32:57):
oh my god, what am Igonna uncover? But if I would
have met someone like you, Iwould have been able to like hit everything
head on instead of suffering so long. So I feel like what you do
is incredible because you can show peoplelike, hey, no, there's you
don't need to be scared. Thisis what your body saying, like,
this is what you're ready to workon, this is what you're ready to
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heal, like you don't need tobe scared of it. And I feel
like that's a lot of what yourwork is, Yeah, exactly. And
what I like to say too,is that the nightmares, even though they're
scary to see, because I've hadpeople say like what if I just prefer
not to remember them, or likeyou know, like revisit the nightmare,
but it's really just reflecting the nightmarethat you're living in waking life, and
it's just going to keep coming backuntil it's addressed. So you know,
(33:43):
it's really worth it to explore it. And you know, just like in
my situation and other situations that I'veseen, the dream shifts into something more
positive. Yeah, And I seeit a lot of doing readings. It's
like pulling it's like an onion.I know everyone uses that as an example,
but as you pull back one layer, there's another layer there, and
it's not necessarily scary or something morethat you have to work on. It's
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a level of awareness that you getto attain, and then this piece develops
where you're literally living like you're thisauthentic, happy, peaceful life. So
I feel like, if you're avoidingit, you're just going to keep piling
shit on top of shit and you'renot going to be happy. So might
as well just deal with it nowexactly. And I'm also not saying that
I'm like never have anxiety at thispoint. Same same, yeah. I
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you know, I recently went towell maybe a year ago, went to
a wedding and everything was like crowded, you know, still covid Ish times,
and I remember having like that thatbrief moment of like the shortness of
breath that was one of my keysymptoms yea. And I didn't want to
be the weird one pulling out inessential oil and just like you know,
snorting it in front of everybody.So I just I just like did my
(34:49):
moodras, my hand gestures that isreally discreet under the table, and I
took my deep breaths and it wasgone within a few seconds, and I
enjoyed the rest of the time becauseat least, you know, for me,
my fight or flight is more flight, like where's on of yours exit?
And you know, even though Ithought about it, Okay, let's
go to the restroom or whatever,I was able to control it there.
And that's what I love sharing aboutdiffusing the panic attacks and all of the
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stuff that we can work on inwaking life. But first it's finding what
the issue is the root of it, because without that, you can't really
resolve what you're not aware of.Right I still have anxiety here and there,
especially yeah, crowded places, ButI'll tell myself when therapist taught me,
like ask yourself in this moment?Am I safe? Yes? I
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am safe in this moment? Andthen if that doesn't work, why you
feel this way right now? Ninetimes out of ten, I'm neither overwhelmed
by like my work schedule or there'slike too much on my plate and I
need me time. So again,it's been like a lot of trial and
error for me to figure it out. And then once I start to notice
the symptoms, I will not,like I will take it a couple of
days off or do something so thenI'm able to diffuse it so it doesn't
(35:58):
just keep on. But I feellike I had to go from go through
that journey of having such significant anxietyin order to like have to develop those
hardcore boundaries. Exactly, Yeah,exactly. And the one thing for me
about like all the tools that Ishare about is that every not only is
every person different, but also weare different and different you know, at
(36:22):
different times, different situations. Otherthings will help. I can't always,
you know, drop to a child'spose when I'm feeling stressed, but I
can do a moodra when I'm ina crowd, or I can you know,
do a more elaborate practice if ifI need that meantime right and everything.
Yeah, different things work different forpeople. It's so funny because I
have lavender in my first and sayingI have no shame in my game.
(36:43):
I will like literally pull it outand like, yeah, just if anxiety
is that bad and you literally feellike you're about to have a panic attack,
oh grab what you need. Yeah. Do you work with kids?
I don't. I have had peopleask me about that, and I prefer
to work with the parent because thecommunication is more. Kids want to talk
(37:06):
about their dreams and they I findthat it's different because the way that I
work with them, I have thedreamer come up with their aha moment,
and it's harder for kids to findthat. So I my preference is to
empower the parent to be able tohave these communications with their kids and see
how to how to support them thereto have that awareness. However, I
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have shared a workshop on like waysto It was when kids are scared or
have a lot of nightmares and thingslike that. I have essential oils that
I make for that and different wayswhere you can make it fun for kids
to fall asleep and to help themif they have those night terrors. Yeah.
So I have a three year oldand he has night terrors and it's
(37:51):
scary because he's literally not there andyou have to just like leave him alone.
And we notice like if his sleepingschedule gets messed with at all,
then it tends to provoke them.Do you have any guidance for night terrors?
Yeah, Juniper Berry is a greatessential oil for that, Okay,
Juniper Berry, Yeah, it's thenight terror oil actually, like good for
(38:15):
nightmares too, and for kids,because kids like anything that's like playful.
So for example, if you createdyour own blend juniper berry lavender, which
is like mild sedative for kids thatare three, if they're like younger than
two, you want to dilute ita lot less. But if you made
like a spray and told them thatyou know it's your son, right,
(38:38):
yeah, said that this is likea monster be gone spray or like this
is it's protecting you and like makingit more fun whatever character he likes or
show he watches, kind of makingit part of a ritual that's fun for
him. And also the properties aregoing to help. So for example,
I like spritsing it above my heador that can be a suggestion and as
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you're feeling, you're gonna feel likea little like you can visualize a little
glitteral falling down or like creating abubble and you're going to feel the sensation
of the drops falling. But addingthat visual and helping them feel empowered as
well, So that would be one. Crystals are a good one too.
Amethyst is a good one for nightmares, and that's something that's tangible that it's
(39:22):
pretty. They can look at theyfeel safe and you know, by putting
it in their bed or creating agrid around their bed, like placing four
on each corner underneath the mattress,like black turmaline, which is good protection
and grounding. So there's crystals andoils that can be used for that.
They'll be fun for them, usestheir imagination because their visualization is like for
(39:44):
the most part, really great.And we'll also help with those properties.
Okay, oh, I have somuch amethist, I'll put it under his
bed tonight. I love that.Well, do you have anything else you
want to share? I mean,my only recommendation is, you know,
wherever you are in the dream journey, just find what's going to help you
really connect to your dreams, whetherit be I'm sharing it with somebody journaling,
(40:07):
or you know, making a voicenote to yourself. But try it
for like two weeks and just seehow much awareness is going to come up
for you. I love that.Yeah, don't avoid them. They're showing
you something. Yeah. So ifpeople want to get in touch with you,
how can they find you? Yes? So, I'm Melly the dreaming
yogi everywhere on Instagram. It's theunderscore dreaming underscore Yogi. You can find
(40:30):
everything on my website, the dreamingYogi dot org, with a bunch of
resources like if you have trouble rememberingyour dreams, I have a workbook,
have a dream guide, meditation,and basically every tool that I talk about
I have a free resource on.So you can always just message me like
hey, I want to learn moreabout crystals, and I'll send you a
free guide. Awesome. That's sonice of you. I'll put all of
(40:51):
your information in the note sections soyou guys can find it there. Thank
you so much for sharing your wisdomwith us. Thank you so much for
having me on your podcast. Yeah, we'll have to do it again.
I'm so intrigued. Yes, I'mexcited to talk some more and to how
about you? Okay, thank youbye. Guys. For information on how
to book a session with me,visit my website mediumcreen dot com. And
(41:14):
for information to attend the Angelic KillingCircle that is tonight at five pm Pacific
Standard time. There is a linkin the note section. I'll see you
next week.
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