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July 4, 2025 • 60 mins
Don't threaten me with a good time, Trump. Deport me before America's Age of Pestilence begins!

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Welcome ladies, gentlemen, and Jenna and not conforming individuals to
another episode of The Benjamin Dixon Show. Thanks to everyone
at this pace dot TV, all of you in the
comment section, all of you who are live with us.
Now we have some stuff to get into. It has been,
as Brother Jackson White just outlined, it has been a

(00:46):
date when we consider what the big beautiful Bill is
going to do to this country, what it is going
to do to the poorest people in this country, what
it's going to do to the sickest and the most
vulnerable people in this country. And the fact that these
people are celebrating at MAGA is celebrating. You know what

(01:10):
I'm thinking I'm gonna do before I even get too
deep into it, what I'm gonna do is and God
is gonna have to forgive me. Forgive me God. I
just feel this in my in my spirit to do.
I'm gonna print up a sign. You know how the
Westboro Baptist Church used to go and protest military funerals.
I'm gonna print up a big sign like that, but
I'm gonna say, this is what you voted for, isn't it.

(01:33):
And I'm gonna go outside of every maga funeral that's
caused by the big beautiful bill and the destruction of Medicaid,
some seventeen million people being taken off of Medicaid. I'm
gonna go out to their funerals and I'm gonna do
my best not to laugh at them because they're celebrating
today that which is going to be destructed to them

(01:54):
in the long run. Now I know, I know many
of us are gonna suffer as well. So it's not
gonna be an isolated thing. Is going to be all
of America. In fact, if we look at the entirety
of this bill, they are increasing the budget for ICE
by some five hundred percent. ICE is going to be
bigger than the FBI. So if we look at the

(02:16):
totality of this bill and everything that they're doing, the
type of damage that they are doing through making these
twenty seventeen tax cuts permanent, it is going to be
the destruction of the United States of America, without question.
So we want to take a look at that bill.
I want to just play the moment that they were

(02:38):
all celebrating. They really, I mean, they started chanting USA, Usa, USA.
On this vote, the yaser to eighteen, the naser two fourteen,
the motion is adopted. I mean, mess until you have

(03:10):
you ever seen people so excited about destroying the United
States of America, destroying the lives of millions of Americans. Literally,
what is happening right here, right now, we are seeing
the inflection point where this country while we were thank you,
Nick I, that's exactly what I was looking for this country,
while we were in a state of managed decline, while

(03:34):
we were not what we were supposed to be, we
were certainly not what we could be. We were not
on the trajectory for this techno fascist future where billions
of dollars are now being poured not only into ice,
but being poured into companies like Pallenteer, poured into surveillance,

(03:58):
poured into making sure that they can make every one
of our lives not only miserable, but micro manage down
to the data point. They are celebrating the destruction of
the United States of America, the complete incompacity. I mean,
they are going to ensure that you have no ability

(04:20):
to protest. Because when you put the big beautiful bill
and you juxtapose it with what Robert Kennedy Junior is
doing over at HHS, you will quickly realize something that
they are going for the death blow. They're trying to
ensure that you cannot have any energy or even the

(04:44):
health necessary to resist this regime. I want you to
take a listen to Alexandria Acasio Cortes as she spoke
outside of Capitol Hill and said that this is the
saddus day, the saddest day of modern American history. And
I have to concur take a listening.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
One of the saddest days in modern American history. This
is the largest, This is the largest withdrawal and ending
of healthcare in American history. Seventeen million people in our country,
seventeen million Americans in our country are going to lose

(05:28):
their Medicaid, They're going to lose their ACA insurance with
small business owners are going to have their healthcare costs skyrocket,
and people are going to have their snap and Wit
cut back. People are going to go hungry, people are
going to get sick on a scale unlike anything we've

(05:50):
ever seen, and it's all of it is just to
finance tax cuts for billionaires and the wealthiest corporations who
don't even need it. I don't think I've ever seen.
I don't think we have ever seen or are prepared for,
how catastrophic this is said to be for a lot
of people. And I think it's devastating. And they're talking

(06:14):
about this as though it's some tax cut. Even the
stuff that they're talking about taxes on tips. No tax
on tips, that's only for people, that's only up to
twenty five thousand dollars. And if you're making less than that,
you're already kind of exempt from a lot of these
things in the first place. So they're giving people crumbs
and they're taking away the whole loaf. And it's just

(06:37):
a genuinely, really sad day for our country.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
What about who are Jeffries' final message just looking ahead
to twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Six, twenty twenty eight, Well, you know, to Leader Jeffries's message,
he's right. The best thing that we can do right
now is press on. And in order for us to
salvage what we have to build through, we have to
chart a new course and a new path to our future,
and we have to make sure that there are consequences
if you're on Medicaid, if you're on ACA, if you

(07:06):
are on Medicare and rely on Medicaid to help with
your long term care. There has to be consequences to
these votes. And we have to decide if this is
just a joke or just for TV, or if this
is our real lives. And I hope people vote like
it's our real lives.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Like it is our real life. You know. The sad
part about this, as I am messing up my own production,
Thank goodness, Nick is back there to make sure that
I get set properly. The saddest thing about this is
that not only is this not a joke, but this
is intentional, and I think we have to start accepting that.

(07:42):
We should have accepted this alone time ago. Folks. What
MAGA is doing to the American people is intentional. They
have no problem if you die. In fact, it actually
helps them out. The more we die, and more quickly
we die, they cannot afford to have resistance. They cannot

(08:03):
afford to let there be an even playing field because
they cannot compete on an even playing field, and so
it is very necessary for them to destroy us completely
and totally destroy us. I mean they want us dead.
They want us dead, and it is evident by how

(08:28):
many people are getting ready to get sick and die
because of this bill. It's not just that they are
getting rid of seventeen million people off of Medicaid, but
the rural hospitals that so many people depend on that
we're already in trouble. Those hospitals are going to shut
down those that were left. It's not just that they

(08:49):
did this to enrich the rich even more. They did
this strategically to undermine our ability to have a voice.
I can tell you what's next on this I can
tell you what's coming next as sure as my name
as pastor Ben. What's coming up next is that they
are absolutely positively going to start ensuring that we have

(09:13):
limited access to the internet, very controlled and filtered, algorithmically
suppressed access to the internet. Why because that's our last
line of collective defense. We're not gonna have enough money
to travel around and connect with each other and protest
in person across the country to do what's necessary. So

(09:35):
they understand the last line of collective action is going
to be found on the Internet. And so you can
guarantee that the suppression that you're fixed facing right now
is just the beginning. You can guarantee that the way
the algorithm is pushing MAGA in your face all day,
every day, this is just the beginning. They have to

(09:55):
control the narrative. They have to control resistance. They cannot
afford an even playing field. They cannot tolerate there to
be equity, inclusion or diversity. Why because every time there is,
they lose. If there is an even playing field, they lose.

(10:16):
And so what do they do. They have to get
rid of democracy. They must destroy democracy, they must destroy resistance.
And so this bill is not just the giveaway to
the rich, which it is, but it's making the twenty
seventeen tax breaks permanent. Right. I don't know if any

(10:37):
of you are old enough to remember that. I remember
Paul Ryan and Donald Trump coming together and getting that
exorbitant bill, that two trillion dollars if I'm not mistaken,
of two trillion dollars over ten years giveaway at the time.
Now they've made it permanent. This is going to inflate
the deficit, the debt in unimaginable ways, all the things

(10:58):
they say they care about. So I don't want us
to look at this through the lens of just oh,
this is destructive economically. You have to look at this
through the lens of the long game. And that's what
I want to put on the screen. I want to
look at this decades long outlook that we pull together
from the BBB, and I don't know if you all

(11:20):
can see it that clear. Let me see if I
can make it bigger. I don't know if I can,
but either way it goes, I'll read it to you.
You have to look at this over the long run
because most of the impact from what's going to happen
is going to happen after the mid terms. Of course,
you understand why, because if anything is really impacted before

(11:40):
the midterms, then the people will feel it. And if
the people feel it before twenty twenty six, they will
respond accordingly. But they're going to delay the impact just
by about two years a year and a half. So
after the mid terms, that's when you're going to start
filling all of the ramifications on public health. Between twenty

(12:00):
twenty six and twenty twenty nine, after the midterms, coverage
loss spikes. Before I go through this, hang on, here's
what matters in twenty twenty six. That is our last
that is our last opportunity to put a wedge, a block,
an impediment in the way of MAGA. If we don't
stop them in twenty twenty six, what's going to happen?

(12:23):
They are going to be able to have two additional
years to permanently enshrine and codify all that they are doing.
That would give them two years to try to get
a constitutional amendment through around the country. Right, they need
seventy five percent of the states. They're not too far
from it. But they're trying to get Donald Trump to
be able to run a third term. Now, they might

(12:45):
want to be careful on that because if they allow
Donald Trump to run a third term, it's a good
possibility that Barack Obama would jump in there and run
for a third term, and then that's game over for MAGA.
I think I think Barack Obama still has enough charisma
and a pull like I know, as many folks who
don't like them, right, as many folks who know that
his administration wasn't good for a whole lot of people,

(13:06):
wasn't necessarily good for black folks. That could tell you
that for sure, Right, he made sure he let everybody
know that he wasn't the black president. Okay, he was
leading in drones strikes. Right, So we got all kinds
of criticisms of Barack Obama. But one thing I can
guarantee you is if they open up a third term
possibility for Donald Trump, they open up a third term
possibility for Barack Obama. And so whether or not they'll

(13:28):
actually achieve that, we don't know, but we know that
they are pushing it right now. And so if we
don't stop them in twenty twenty six, we don't have
control over the House, if we don't have at least
the House of Representatives, we will not be able to
stop them from codifying even more damage. It will take
that many more decades to undo what they've done in

(13:51):
just these first two years of Donald Trump's second term.
Then if we have to wait between twenty twenty six
and twenty twenty eight, you understand, right's going to be
even more damage that they're going to make permanent. And
so we absolutely positively have got to block them in
twenty twenty six. And this is why they are not

(14:12):
letting the impact of what's happening in the big beautiful
bill take place until after twenty twenty six. But if
you look at the long term, you look at the
decade long outlook based on and of course if you're
looking at screen, this is is covering all the major
areas of what this bill does to public health, what
this bill does to climate, what this bill does to

(14:34):
social stability, what this bill does for wealth concentration, and
what this bill does for democratic institutions. Between twenty twenty
six and twenty twenty nine, and public health coverage losses spike.
Those people who have coverage now are going to lose coverage,

(14:55):
rural closure of hospitals. Between twenty thirty and twenty thirty four,
life expectancy declines. We are going to be living shorter
lives in the United States of America as a result
of this bill. One to two million more uninsured children
across this country. This is this is an intentional attack

(15:21):
on the live not even the livelihood, but the ability
to have life. In terms of climate change, emissions are
going to rebound by twenty twenty seven, not though as
though we were making great progress, but this bill is
going to ensure a reversal. And of course we're gonna
miss twenty thirty emissions target. Forget about that. They don't

(15:42):
even believe climate change is real. They don't even believe
climate change is real, undoing much of the IRA games,
social stability, food insecurity rises. People are going to be hungry,
and they're ensuring that that hunger doesn't kick in until
after twenty twenty six, But by twenty twenty seven, twenty

(16:04):
twenty eight, people will be experiencing hunger. And let me
tell you, I don't know how many of you. I know.
This is a working class channel, so many of you
probably understand exactly what I'm getting ready to say. When
you are hungry, when you can't feed yourself and you
can't feed your kids, you cannot focus on politics. You

(16:25):
cannot focus on what the government is doing to you,
what the regime is doing to you. And this is
why they need us to be sick and hungry. Growing
geographic inequality, we are going to be segmented by zip codes.
No longer north versus South, but precisely by your zip code.

(16:49):
The poor communities next to richer communities, separated maybe by
one or two miles, but separated infinitely by the kind
of health despair that exist, the kind of food insecurity
that exists between one zip code and the next. Let
me give you a Let me give you not an anecdote,
but it's I guess it's an anecdote, but it was.

(17:12):
It happened in the state of Florida. I remember at
the beginning of the pandemic that MAGA was pretending like
they didn't want the vaccine, but Ron de Santis ensured
in the state of Florida, Ron de Santis ensured that
the richer zip codes got access to the vaccine first.

(17:34):
I need to repeat that, at the beginning of the
pandemic in the state of Florida, Ron de Santis ensured
that the richer zip codes, the richer Floridians, got access
to the vaccine first. This is what it's going to mean.
You can be in one zip code over and be

(17:55):
living in food insecurity, with health, not able to access hospitals,
not able to access decent education. And all of this
is enshrined in the big beautiful bill Wealth Concentration. We
already understand what they're going to do. They're the top
one percent of income. Income SHAR is going to increase

(18:20):
over twenty five percent more than where we are right now.
Intergenerational wealth gap is going to widen. They are so
committed to passing down wealth without any responsibility to the
system for which they gain the wealth. What am I saying?
They don't want to contribute anything. They want to take

(18:42):
everything from us and contribute nothing. This is what the
Big Beautiful Bill is going to do democratic institutions. Between
twenty twenty six and twenty twenty nine. The courts are
going to be overwhelmed with challenges. They already are overwhelmed
the split between courts that trying to uphold the judiciary
in courts that are loyal to Donald Trump. It doesn't

(19:04):
help that we have the Supreme Court that is loyal
to Donald Trump. And so we are going to see
the further erosion of our institutions based on the judiciary. Folks.
I'm just you know, at the end of the day,

(19:25):
we have to act now. It's now or never. It
is now or never. I don't know what it is
that you can do. I don't know what it is
that you can contribute. I don't know what it is
that you have an expertise in. You may not be

(19:50):
able to hit the streets, you may not be able
to go and protest. I don't know what it is
that you can do, but folks, whatever it is that
you can do, we gotta do it now. We're not
gonna have a chance to do it. When you consider

(20:10):
the way the surveillance state is getting ready to be
jacked up with steroids and like their own crack cocaine,
the kind of money that they're putting into ICE, and
they sure what they're doing with ICE, immigration customers, and enforcement.
They are deputizing localized not even just sheriff officers, sheriff

(20:33):
deputies and police officers. They are deputizing them to carry
out the function of ICE. They're also deputizing college campus police.
But they're also deputizing just random Joe Schmoels off the street,
people who have a little bit of militia training, proud boys.

(20:55):
And the amount of money that they're pouring into ICE.
I hope you understand that this is not going to
remain ICE alone, immigration alone. There is nothing that's going
to stop them from accept us from converting ICE from

(21:15):
focusing on immigration to focusing on political suppression. Let me
say that again, there is nothing structurally that will prevent them.
There's nothing in the constitution, There's nothing that's preventing them
from converting ICE from being focused on immigration alone to

(21:36):
focusing on suppressing political dissent, because if you look at
the billions of dollars that they're pouring into ICE, you
have to really pause and think, wait a minute, this
isn't about immigration, This isn't about immigrants. This is one
hundred percent about creating a military force that can operate

(21:56):
inside of the borders of the United States of America
and can come kick down your doors at the beckoning
call of someone like Donald Trump or JD. Vance. They
cannot allow opposition. They're cowards. First of all. They are cowards.
They cannot handle opposition. They're morons who don't have the

(22:19):
intelligence necessary for competing against opposition. And they're fascists. They
don't care that they're dumb. They don't care that they're ignorant,
they don't care that they're incompetent. They'll rather shoot you
in the head or put you in prison, which is
why we have to act now. Whatever it is that

(22:40):
you can do, I don't care. If all you can
do is tweet about it, damn it. Excuse me, Lord,
get out there and tweet something, then I'm not the most. Physically.
I'm not physically able, hardly at all, but I'm gonna
do what I can do. Some of you are attorneys
getting to action. Some of you are coders, get into action.

(23:06):
You are writers. You better write like your life depends
on it. Whatever it is that you can do. We
absolutely needs, we absolutely need to get into action right now.
Why Why Because action later is not going to be possible.

(23:31):
There is no tomorrow whomen it comes to fascism if
we don't strike at the heart of it right If
you're going to get arrested, get arrested right now. I
know some of you're like, well, I don't want to
get arrested. I understand, But now is the time to
get arrested. Now is the time to get arrested while
we still have an inkling a modicum, just a mention

(23:54):
of justice left of due process left. Do it now,
and it doesn't matter. We don't all have to do
the same thing. Again. I am not physically able. I
am not. I can only do so much in that realm,

(24:15):
but I'm sure as hell can do a whole lot
in the information warfare column. That's where I'm getting to action.
You may be somebody You may not know a lot.
You may not you know, have it all figured out.
You may not understand a lot. You might not be
the person for information warfare. You might be a person

(24:35):
who can just go put your physical body in the
way of an ice agent. Now, I don't want to
encourage people to do something that I can't do myself.
You evaluate that for yourself. You figure out what risk
you can take. But what I'm saying is, whatever level
of risk that you can take, we need to go
all the way to the edge right now. My seven

(24:56):
year old, oh regularly, is a little bit concerned about it,
and I understan but I have to tell him, don't
worry about it. Dad's got it under control. He's a
little bit concerned about the stuff that I say on
the internet because he's like, well, what if Donald Trump
sends his agents and bang on our door? And I
have to let him know if that happens, here's the plan.
This is where you and your brother and sister and

(25:18):
your mother go. This is what y'all do. But I
cannot wait, I cannot allow. I cannot sit back and
out of fear. And I explained this to him like
a seven year old. You understand. You know, I'm not
saying it. I don't. I don't talk to him like
I talked to you all. But I let him know
that I cannot allow the fear of what could happen

(25:38):
make me freeze and then it happens anyway. And I
also have to let them know that I'm fighting for
their future. I'm fighting for their future. I'm fighting because
this country has decided that they don't want to believe
climate change exists, and so they want to run headlong

(26:01):
into climate catastrophe. This country doesn't want to believe that
COVID still exists, and so we're living in the forever pandemic.
And as if that wasn't enough, Robert Kennedy Junior has
committed himself to bringing us and ushering us into an
age of pestilence. That's a phrase I got from Andrea Rovinski.

(26:24):
I can't. I mean, there is no better way now,
I told her, I said, Andrea, when I use it
the first time, I'm going to give you credit for it.
You know, maybe the second time and the third time
I'm going to give you credit for it. But somewhere
around the fourth or fifth time, what preachers do we
kind of forget where we got it from, and then
we start saying it like it's our own. Robert Kennedy

(26:45):
Junior has been assigned to do one thing, and that
is to usher us into an age of pestilence. So
whatever the hell we're gonna excuse, whatever the heck we're
gonna do, we gotta do it right now. We have

(27:09):
no margin for error, we have no margin for delay.
And I'm saying this to each and every one of
you as a call to action, to ask you, what
are you gonna do about this? I know, I know
it seems insurmountable. I know it's it's a huge bohemoth
of a beast. I understand that it seems frivolous, and

(27:32):
it seems like, you know, we shouldn't even try, because
it's the mountain is so big, and we're so small,
and and and Maggie is so powerful, and they have
all the money and we have none. Most of us
listening right now, I guarantee you the majority of us
probably don't have all of rent covered already for this month.
I get it, I get it. I'm there with you.

(27:54):
I've studied this beast. I know exactly how big this
beast is I understand how powerful they're propaganda is I
understand how their information warfare is operating at higher dimensions.
And I don't mean spiritually, I mean technically. They are
operating at a narrative warfare. They're operating and frame warfare.
They're operating where they can change and invert the truth,

(28:16):
invert the narrative. There's not a truth that we can
put out that these demons haven't mastered the art of
inverting and turning around. So I understand what we're up against.
But good God Almighty, come on, somebody. Are we supposed
to just lay down and die? Talk with me? Somebody?

(28:39):
Are we supposed to just lay down and die? Because
the fight seems insurmountable. I don't care if all we
have is fifty people. Y'all forgive me for yelling, But
I need I need, I need you. I need to
inject some I don't know what you if. I don't

(29:01):
know if you need holy ghosts I can, I can,
I can. I don't know if you need some some
revolutionary spirit. I don't. I don't know who you need
to motivate you. I don't know if you need me
to quote Karl Marx, you need me to quote Huet P. Newton,
if you need me to quote Fred Hampton. They can
kill the revolutionary, but they can't kill the revolution. I
don't know what you need to hear, but I need

(29:21):
people to understand the last thing that we can afford
to do is to throw in the towel and give
up the fight. When we're fighting against Neanderthals. No, sorry
forgive me, forgive me Neanderthals. You all are actually way
smarter than Maga. We're fighting against chargoler dyes, dwellers, barbarians

(29:42):
at their own gates. Look at them on January sixth,
charging the gates of their own empire because they weren't
satisfied with the privilege and the power that they already had.
They were frustrated because people had an opportunity to have
a little bit better of a life. Somebody had the
nerve to use pronouns, and these triggler charge their own empire.

(30:03):
You mean we're gonna lay down and die and give
up for these morons? Devil is a liar? Not today,
Not no, No, we are not going to give up
simply because it feels insurmountable. I don't care how you resist.

(30:25):
I don't care how much you resist, as long as
you resist. And we know what else. Let me say
one more thing before I go to the next story.
We don't have time to fight each other now. I
don't like Democrats right now because of what they're doing
to Zoran Mondamia. We're gonna go to him next. I
don't like the establishment Democrats right now. And I wrote

(30:47):
last week and we covered it last week, and I
mean it. Whatever they do to him in twenty twenty five,
we're gonna do to them in twenty twenty six. That
hasn't changed. But between now and November, we don't have
time to fight at each other. We don't don't mean
you gotta like them, because I don't. Don't mean you
gotta work with them, because I'm realizing more and more

(31:09):
I can't. But I am not going to use my
energy having confrontations with them when I need to let
all hell break loose on MAGA. I like this comment
from Tiger, not only because it's a uh A super chat,
but it's a great question. Tiger says, how do we
start our own troll farm to control the narrative online

(31:33):
like alt account trol farms? To make more people see
the truth. We absolutely need to do this. We absolutely
positively need to do this. We have to control then,
we have to at least if we can't control the narrative,
we have to at least put some inertia in their
ability to control the narrative. We gotta slow down their machine.

(31:57):
We gotta throw some dirt into their cod We gotta
make that thing just run a little bit more inefficiently.
Now that's something everybody can do, everybody underneath the sound
of my voice. If you're not a person who can
physically go and confront ice, if you're not a person
who's an attorney who can fight through the judiciary, the
legal system, the justice system. If you're not an organizer,

(32:19):
and you're not the kind of person that can go
out and get ten thousand people to show up at
city Hall. If that's not you, you know what you
can do. You can join us online to fight in
the information warfare, in the information war all hearts of
mind clear, we understand everybody can and should be doing something.

(32:46):
Now I can tell you all I've been working on
for the last four years, besides what God has been
giving me, and I'm excited about that. You know, all
the brilliant stuff that God has been pouring into me.
But what I've been focused on simultaneously, I've had to
run it currently has been how do we fight back
against this maga, devil, demon, this beast, this infrastructure, this mechanism.

(33:11):
So I got some ideas, I got some solutions, and
we'll get to those at another time. We'll we'll talk
about it. But a lot of it does fall right
with what Tiger just said. I'll put it back on
the screen. We need to fight in the information war
like our lives depended on it. To not be afraid
of confronting people online. Don't be afraid of them saying

(33:32):
something to try to trigger you. You gotta steal your backbone,
steal your spine. You gotta be willing. You got if
you if you listen, first three years of me being
on Twitter, I had to die on the inside. I
had to. You know, social media is not a fun
place and it can easily trigger you. It can make
you have anxiety if you're not careful. I understand that.

(33:52):
But y'all got we gotta we gotta, we gotta get
a stiff upper chip, upper upper lit, not stiff uper lipt.
What is it a stiff chind the somebody help me
with that phrase. It escapes me. We've got to fight
like hell on every single angle, on every single side.

(34:15):
I don't know how many times I'm gonna say that,
but I'm gonna keep saying it until we see even
more action and the action. Now here's where I will
fight the democratic establishment. The action cannot come from centrist
you know, neoliberalism. It can't come from the establishment. It

(34:35):
can't because if it comes from the establishment, then we're
not going to get the action that's needed. The action
that is needed is revolutionary. The action that is needed
has to come from the working class. It's got to
come from people who understand what it's like to have

(34:57):
to go feed your family in a food pantry. People
who understand what it's like to work seventy hours a
week and still barely get by. People who know what
it's like to not go to the emergency room because
you don't have insurance. People who knows what it's like

(35:20):
to have holes in your teeth because you don't have
dental insurance. It's got to come from the people who
are getting it from the gutter, people who are living
paycheck to paycheck, because if we keep playing around with centrist,
neoliberal democratic establishment policies, we're going to keep getting the

(35:43):
same flimsy, weak need, yellow bellied i mean, lily livered
to softness polit tissue policies that fall apart as soon
as Maga gets in power, that fall apart as soon

(36:04):
as Donald Trump got into power. Obamacare was never the solution,
and so the fight has to come from people who
know how to fight, like Hill, because we've had to
fight every day of our life. We've had to put
up with all kinds of stuff We've had to We
had to make ends meet. We had to rob Peter

(36:26):
to pay Paul. We had to move a bill from
the seventh of the month to the eighteenth of the month.
We had a call and flip it. Come on, man,
don't nobody know how to fight better than people who
have had to live and survive at the bottom of
this empire writing a book? In the opening nine of

(36:47):
the book is the best view of the empires from
the bottom. The best view of the empire is from
the bottom. Those who know how to defeat the empire
are all of us who are at the bottom of
the empire. Because we've survived this long. That's why y'all

(37:10):
need to listen to black folks too. I'm gonna keep
it one hundred and ten percent here. You need to
listen to black folks. You need to listen to the
LGBTQUI community that are in the working class. Right. We
do have some of the LGM We got some We
got a couple of black folks that got some money,
you know what I mean, Not a whole lot of us,
but those of us who are systemically at the bottom.
You should listen to women. Not all women, certainly, not

(37:32):
candass owners, you know, certainly not you know, not all women,
but women who have had to fight from the working class.
Oh black women who are fighting from the working class.
Ah my god, today, those people who are at the bottom,

(37:54):
who have had to try, who have had to survive
just to feed their kids. We know how to knuckle up.
We know how to knuckle up just fine. Max Left
centers of super Test saying new documentary release call the
encampments About the Spring, About the Spring twenty twenty four
Columbia and other universities encampments that will give you inspiration.

(38:16):
Highly recommend Thank you for that recommendation. Thank you for
that recommendation. I haven't seen it. I will certainly check
it out, But do you understand what I'm saying. If
you don't take anything else from this episode, I need
you to take from this that you you are the people,
You are the individual. You are the person we've been

(38:39):
waiting on, not pastor Ben. I can only do so much,
and I got some tricks up my bag. I got
some tricks up my sleeves. I got some I got
some things for them. They're not gonna that.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Man.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Look, why do you think I'm one of the number
one suppressed people on Twitter?

Speaker 5 (38:53):
Man?

Speaker 2 (38:53):
I tweet something, I got one hundred and what sixty
thousand followers. I tweet something and six people see it,
six views because because Eli, I know I got something
for that for his behind. My coffee is good. I
need to refill. I want you to hear from zoron Mandani. Man.

(39:18):
I cannot pronounce that brother's name. Somebody give me the
phonetic spell. Ma'am donnie, ma'am donnie. I should have been
covering him a lot long, but actually this is only
really my third week back doing the show, so it's
fair that I didn't cover him sooner. But ma'am Donnie,
I'm just gonna call him Zoran until I can get
his name right. I don't want to disrespect the brother's name,
but I want you to hear him as he discusses

(39:39):
Donald Trump's attempt to deport him. You all have heard
this story. You already know what's going on. But I
want to give I want to talk about this shift.
I told you it was never about immigrants alone. It
was about using the threat of deportation to silence political opposition. Now,

(40:00):
now the spirit in me has been evolving on this issue.
I don't want to say this. I want to say this,
but I want to still give total credence to what
Thank you, Wanda. You're inspiring me to keep fighting. Absolutely,
you keep fighting positively, loutely, keep fighting. I'm gonna say

(40:23):
this and then I'm going to play the clip from
zoron because I think the threat of deportation is insidious. Okay,
but I gotta say something first. Hear me out. When
you consider what they are doing to the environment here localized,
of course, the global climate disaster is something we can't escape.
But locally, in the United States of America, they're releasing

(40:44):
new pollutants in the air. Seven new pollutants in the
air that were previously prohibited are now being released in
the air. We consider what they're doing to the water supply,
not only the removal of floor ride from the water,
but also just different contaminants that we normally have tried
to prevent from being in a water supply. When you
consider the disbanding of the various departments and leadership of

(41:07):
the CDC, when you look at them them firing the
over what ten thousand milk inspectors, When you look at
all the decisions that they're making, that is intentionally going
to make death a reality, a normal reality in the
United States of America. Listen, don't threaten me with the
good time. I need you to give me a flight.

(41:29):
I can't afford to put my entire family on a
flight to Africa. Send me back, Get me the hell
out of here. Can can Can I get some white
supremacists to fund to go fund Benjamin Dixon to get
out of of America. Send me back to Africa. You're

(41:50):
not Ultimately, I believe what the enemy meant for evil.
This is Scripture Genesis twenty fifty or is it fifty
to twenty one of them. What the enemy meant for
evil turns around, God turns around for our good. What
they are doing to these immigrants is ultimately going to
work out in their favor. Because who wants to live

(42:12):
in Egypt when it's underneath the Ten Plegues? Who wants
to remain in Egypt while it is going through the
Ten Plagues? Who wants to remain in Babylon as Babylon falls?
So these white sub premises, they're never, never been supreme,

(42:32):
These white sub premises on Twitter, always trying to say
and think they're scared somebody, Oh, we're going to deport
you to Liberia. Please don't throw me in the briar patch.
Please don't throw me in the briar patch. Braer Rabbit,
Could you please fund all of Black America and all

(42:54):
of our woke white friends. We want you to come
to fund all of us to get out of here.
Don't threaten us with a good time, because we know
the outcome of your policies. It's gonna be a lot
of y'all gonna die maga, And I'm gonna be right.
If I have to be here, I'm gonna go to
so many funerals, and I'm gonna hold up my side.
This is what you voted for, isn't it. I'm sure

(43:16):
I get shot, So I might not actually do that,
but I'm sure i'm gonna say it and get under
this skin. All right. Here's Zoram Mundani talking about Donald
Trump trying to deport him again. Don't threaten me with
a good time, but it's being used as a political tool.
Let's listen in.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Hey, Donald Trump said that I should be arrested. He
said that I should be deported. He said that I
should be denaturalized. And he said those things about me,
someone who stands to be the first immigrant mayor of
this city in generation, someone who would also be the

(43:53):
first Muslim in the first South Asian mayor in this
city's history. Less so because of who I am, because
of where I come from, because of how I look
or how I speak, and more so because he wants
to distract from what I fight for. I fight for
working people. I fight for the very people that have
been priced out of this city. And I fight for
the same people that he said he was fighting for.

(44:15):
This is the same president who ran on a campaign
of cheaper groceries, who ran on a campaign about easing
a suffocating cost of living crisis, and ultimately, it is
easier for him to fan the flames of division than
to acknowledge the ways in which he has betrayed those
working class Americans, not just in the city but across
this country, and the ways in which he continues to
betray them, because we know that he would rather speak

(44:36):
about me than speak about the legislation that he is
shepherding through Washington, d c. Legislation that will quite literally
take health care away from Americans, Legislation that will steal
food from the hungary, legislation that looks to build upon
one of the largest transfers of wealth we've seen in
recent history in his first administration, and do it once
again for the very Americans.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Who already have enough. We should be.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
Fighting for those that do not have what they need
to live a dignified life. That is what I will do,
and I am thankful to have the protection and to
have the support of so many New Yorkers who have
stood up and said how unacceptable this is, including our governor,
including members of the labor movement. And ultimately, what I

(45:21):
fear for is that if this is what Donald Trump
and his administration feel comfortable about saying about the Democratic
nominee for the mayor of New York City. Imagine what
they feel comfortable saying and doing about immigrants whose names
they don't even know.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Hm. Hm.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Imagine what they're saying and doing about immigrants. You know,
I'm thank you, Nick, I'm thank you. That's all I
can say is thank you, y'all shout out Nick in
the background. He's the one that makes this happen and
keeps me from completely messing up. Imagine what these these
people are so evil, they just, you know, at the

(46:01):
core of who and what they are, they're evil. And
I know a lot of my secular friends don't like
to speak in such religious terms, but when you look
at what they get joy out of, when you look
at what they're willing to do, they're putting actual alligators

(46:23):
and don't listen alligator. So somebody said we should not
call it alligator Alcatraz because that glamorizes it. I look
for another alliteration, and I came up with one, but
I don't think I should probably say it, especially because
you know, I'll probably be called antisemitic. But it is

(46:47):
a concentration camp to be sure. So we will look
at alligator concentration camp in Florida in the Everglades. It's
already surrounded by wildlife and alligators, but they're bringing in
more alligators so that if anybody tries to escape, they

(47:10):
will get eaten by alligators. And these demented devils are
celebrating that that's what I voted for. That's their new slave.
That's what I voted for. They voted for the greatest
evil that they could possibly conjure up. That's what they
voted for. That's who they are. And then they quote,

(47:35):
they tweet a scripture. You understand, they tweet a scripture
and say, you know, oh, I love Jesus. Oh, I
just love Jesus so much.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
But can we kill some more immigrants? Can we deport
some more children? Can we separate some more families? Can
we bomb some more gosins? Yeah, it's the same spirit

(48:05):
what drives Maga, drives Zionism. It's another group. I can't
listen for years.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
For years, I was very cotton. One thing you're gonna
find and you can go through my catalog. I've been
covering Palestine. I've been interviewing and pushing and supporting Palestine
for a long time. But what I haven't been was
just vocally vicious towards Zionism. Right, you go through my catalog,

(48:38):
you're not gonna see me a big stockpile of videos
of me being just vocally vicious towards Zionism. But you
would have always find me. There's not a time, there's
not a time in my career where I have not
stood in solidarity with the Palestinian people. I never forget
an interview I was doing with a young woman in Palestine,
and as we were interviewing her and discussing the conditions

(49:00):
of the last time they were bombing Gaza, a bomb
landed not too far from her house. You could hear
it during the actual interview. But ever since October seventh, Man,
I'm telling you something I want. I just if you
are a Zionist, you you are. You are my natural

(49:21):
born enemy because of how evil you have been to
the children of Gaza. You just you the only people
that remotely I think Zionism's evil transcends and goes beyond
Maga's evil. And that's saying a lot, because Maga is
like spiritual wickedness in high places. So I have no
I have no energy. And this is one of the

(49:42):
other things that I have a real serious, deep seated
problem with the democratic establishment because of their proximity and
their fealty towards Zionism. You know. That's that's and I'm
grateful because we are in a generation wherever everybody knows
the difference. You know, growing up, I kind of knew.

(50:05):
I knew in my knower is what we say in church.
I just knew it in my knower something was off
with Zionism. But you couldn't say anything about it back
then because they would destroy you man. And then they
would try to conflate and make it seem like because
you're anti Zionists, that you're anti Semitic, as if we
don't know and haven't always known that there are plenty

(50:28):
of people of the Jewish faith and the Jewish cultural
descendancy that are not Zionists who oppose it, who oppose
it as vehemently as the rest of us. Right, But
for a long time that conflation remained. That was a stronghold.

(50:48):
People couldn't really get around the fact that they will
always play that game. Oh if you're not pro zion
if you're not a Zionist, then you are anti Semitic.
But the evil and the veil has been removed, and
the fangs of fascism that are at the core of
Zionism has been fully revealed since October seventh, you understand.

(51:15):
And so as I look at the evil of MAGA,
I have to I have to recognize that that evil
runs concurrent parallel to Zionism. And then if you really
dig underneath it, my friends, you gotta dig a little

(51:36):
bit underneath the surface, you will then realize that those
two evils are running the same playbook, the same playbook,
which is settler colonialism. I can never say colonialism, I
promise you, of all the words, of all the words
I need to be able to say fluently colonialism. It really,

(52:02):
you know, really works against my injuries. The play that
they have run both MAGA in its lineage of America
America's manifest destiny, right. And it's not just MAGA, it's
all of the United States of America. All of us

(52:22):
are own stolen land here, genocided land. It's the same
exact play that's currently being run by Zionism, and all
of it stems and manifests from Europe. Can I say

(52:42):
that again all of it now, Don't get me wrong.
Empire is not only from Europe. No, I'm not saying that,
but what we're dealing with right now, what we've been
dealing with. I realize this, I need to. We've been

(53:03):
dealing with empires from Europe for since before Jesus was born. Oh,
Tyna Paul is a Roman empire. We have been dealing
with the expansionism, the empire, the imperialism of Europe since

(53:30):
before Jesus was born. When when that came to my
head earlier this week, I was like, good God Almighty.
We had been dealing with the expansionism, the imperialism, the
settler colonialism of Europe since before Jesus was born. Can

(54:03):
we pause and reflect In the Bible we it's called
sela s E l A H. Can we pause and
reflect on what that actually means and how obscene for
us to still be dealing with that devil in twenty
twenty five in the form of Zionism, and we get

(54:23):
to have to watch it as it plays out across
our Internet, across our social media feeds, and we have
to watch it with the feeling that there's nothing that
we can do about it. But I tell you what
you can do about it. You can grieve, you can mourn,

(54:45):
you can shout, you can never silence your voice. You
can always stand up, you can always confront. You should
never allow them to win the narrative because we were quiet,
because we felt like there was nothing that we could
do about it. Do you see how I'm tying it's
tying itself together. You feel like there's nothing that you

(55:06):
could do about Gaza, that doesn't mean you stop talking
about it. You feel like there's nothing you could do
about the big beautiful bill, but you don't stop talking
about it. Even if we have to die with the
last thing on our breath being opposition to these things.

(55:29):
Even if we don't win in our lifetime, we never
stop talking about it. And with every generation, the wisdom
and the clarity necessary to defeat it is revealed. Take
a listen to this sister who was on the BBC
who would not take the bait. Oh, I don't think

(55:51):
I have enough time. Let me play a little bit
of it. Here is condemnations for hamas did did the
Are you saying that what happened on oct the seventh?

Speaker 6 (55:58):
Except when you do this, another, another, another, another lot
in the media do this again. It is nothing justify
genocide against the Palestinian people. I'm here to tell you
exactly what I aren't exactly Okay, I'm not I'm not
going to condemned. I'm not going to do You're not.
I'm going to stand here and condemned the IDF, the occupation,

(56:19):
and the role of Western imperialism in that entire.

Speaker 4 (56:23):
On one second, condemned.

Speaker 6 (56:27):
And the British government on this and in this genocide.

Speaker 7 (56:32):
You cannot sit there and seriously say you will not
condemn harmass Who can say whatever I like, but you
can what. The British are watching you, the British public
are watching you. And if you will not condemned terrorists,
people who have caused absolute chaos upon the Palestinian people,
the one that started this conflict. Can you see the
disdain the British public, the people of Palestine is Jewish

(56:55):
people will have for you.

Speaker 6 (56:56):
I'm happy to condemn terrorists. Let's start with start with
kissed Armer. Let's start with me, and.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
That's who start.

Speaker 7 (57:05):
Let's talk about who started the war in October.

Speaker 6 (57:07):
I'll tell you it began in nineteen forty eight with
the forced you are you are so correct, British.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
The British was.

Speaker 6 (57:19):
Entirely involved in setting up the zion as sake, they
were entirely involved in that. So British imperialism historically is
responsible for those crimes, and today it is still responsible
for those crimes. And what makes you so angry actually
is the fact that more people support people like Bob Villain,
more people in Britain actually want to see an end
to the occupation. They don't support Britain sending arms, and

(57:42):
that enrages you.

Speaker 7 (57:43):
They don't support he.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Wanted you want to.

Speaker 7 (57:48):
I don't want you to sit here and call the
British public racist and anti submit because they do not
support Boby. We just said people support Bob Villain said,
you just said that, and they don't.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
They do.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
I think you're triggered. You're so triggered.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
The child don't show feel.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
He's so emotional. He's so emotional. Why is he so triggered?
I want you to see Fiona l lately. Yeah, y'all know,
I can't pronounce nobody. The last name is not out
of disrespect, but I want to definitely put her hand
Ale on the screen. Please go follow her at Fiona
Underscore L A L I. Why was he so emotional?

(58:34):
Why was he so triggered? Can we trust men to
lead the planet when they get that easily triggered? Anyway, folks,
I've got less than two I got less than one minute.
I got to get off the air. I got to
get off the air. Angry Ginger is coming up next.
I want you all to support and listen. I've got

(58:55):
one hundred and twenty three people who are watching on
my channel. Now I'm ready to end the stream on
my channel, but this is an all day stream that
you've got to come over to this space. Dot tv
is the website on YouTube. I need you to search.
Matter of fact, if I have a moderator in my chat,
h Nika, if you're able, can you take the link

(59:16):
for this current stream on this space and put it
in the YouTube chat over on my channel. And I
need those one hundred and twenty three people to come
over and watch the Angry Ginger with me in the
chat room. And I need you all to subscribe to
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(59:38):
for me, because this is a working class media co op.
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