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Speaker 1 (00:13):
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And gender non conforming Individuals to another episode of The
Benjamin Dixon Show. I am, of course your host, Benjamin Dixon.
Today is Monday. It is November eighteenth, twenty twenty four.
Thank you so much for joining me. We have not
spoke since the election where Donald Trump soared to victory
over Kamala Harris in a devastating defeat. I just have
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to admit it was painful. It is a painful reality
that so many Americans buy into the bigotry of Donald Trump,
and that so many other Americans just weren't paying attention
enough to realize exactly what Donald Trump said he was
going to do.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
There's so many.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
People who have buyer's remorse already all over the internet.
You see example after example of people really asking, is
Donald Trump really going to end the Department of Education?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, that's what he said, That's what he's gonna do.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Is Donald Trump really gonna deport twenty million of our
migrant working class, or the more precise way of saying
it would be the ethnic cleansing of migrant workers from
this country. Yes, that's what he said he's going to do,
and that's exactly what he's going to do. And is
that going to cause an increase in cost of food?
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Probably to the tune of four hundred percent, some estimates
say it could be even more. Yes, that's exactly what
he's going to do, because that's what he said he's
going to do. And it's a little demoralizing to realize
that so many Americans voted for him out of the
fad and the trend that was manufacture talk about manufacturing consent.
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The amount of money that was placed behind Donald Trump
across social media alone is astonishing, billions of dollars, not
only in just directly paid advertisements, but free media that
he received from so many outlets. Donald Trump's victory was
manufactured by the manufacturing of consent.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
There was a right word shift in this country, but.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
That came as a result of years of conservative media
pouring billions of dollars into right wing voices, billionaires pouring
their money into right wing media, and with us not
having a single platform in response, not of the size
and the scale and the scope of so many of
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the platforms that have made America what it is today.
A far right wing bastion of bigotry and demagogery.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
That didn't just happen overnight. That happened after.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Years and years and years of investments by billionaires into
changing the opinion and the mindsets it this manosphere that
is really kind of at the core of this, this
hatred and disdain for women, that didn't just come naturally,
even though I'm sure there's plenty of evidence to show
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that there is this animus between men, especially young men,
and the women that they can't get yes, but the
organized fashion with which they moved in this election came
as a result.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Of investments from billionaires.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
What does that tell us the fact that consent can
be manufactured is accurate and if no one is putting
money into the system to balance the equation so that
all voices can truly be heard. Because right now we
live in a society where they would tell you that
it's all about free speech, but we see the suppression
of left.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Wing voices every single day.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I am perhaps the most suppressed voice on social media
on YouTube for certain, there's no question about that. We
even had a researcher who joined us on our shore
years ago who was astonished how many blocks were on
my channel alone.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
And that's just me.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
How many other left winged creators, content creators, and commentators
find their voices suppressed. Like Elon Musk said about Twitter
when he purchased it, he said, you may have the
freedom of speech, but that doesn't mean you have the.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Freedom of reach.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
The throttling of left wing voices while billions of dollars
are poured into promoting right wing voices like Candice Owens,
Ben Shapiro, Dave Rubin, Benny Johnson, Tim Poole, two of
those who received one hundred thousand dollars per episode from
a network affiliated with Vladimir Putin. The money and the
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wealth and the power has been given to right wing voices,
and that is how we got where we are today.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
We're not here by circumstance.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
We're not here as a natural evolution of American society.
We're here because of an intervention that money created on
behalf of the powerful, and the powerful coalescing around this idea.
The way that they get and keep and maintain power
forever is by constantly driving a level of hatred and
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bigotry that can.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Spill over into actual violence.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Right now, we are a nation that's teetering on disaster
out of inevitability, no, out of intentional sabotage of the
body politic, of the social contract, of the ability for
us to have a nation that is a community of
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diverse voices and diverse experiences to grow into something that
is we called a melting pot, but we never really
got a chance to be that because of the intervention,
the interference and yes, the ideologies of the wealthiest people
in this planet.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
On this planet.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
That's how we got here, because they realized here's all
they need.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
They needed.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
They needed Christians, they particularly needed Christian nationalists. They needed
the anti woman movement in every form. They needed the
anti science, anti Bax coalition. They absolutely needed every part
of the Republican Party to fall in line and lockstep.
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And with that coalition they were able to get Donald
Trump back into power for a second term, despite the
fact that he has already promised a twenty percent tariff
on all goods imported into the United States, which is
going to drive not only trade war like we've never
seen before, but it's going to drive up the prices
for every day items that we're used to getting because
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of global trade. Every decision is being made, every appointment
that's being made. Consider Robert Kennedy Junior. Consider that appointment
specifically over the Health and Human Services. Consider his position
on vaccines, his position on clean water, his position on
the EPA, and all of their positions on rolling back
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the red tape and cutting and slashing all of the
government agencies and bureaucracies, as if that action in and
of itself speaks of fiscal responsibility. Never mind the fact
that what they're cutting is not only institutional knowledge, but
they're cutting an infrastructure that helps keep you alive, the
regulations that help keep us alive. Because it's not capitalism
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that's going to protect you. Capitalism will cut corners every
single opportunity that it gets. And now Donald Trump has
what they want to call a mandate. When we look
at the numbers, it's not actually a mandate. What he has, though,
is momentum. It might be a false momentum, it might
be a contrived momentum, it might be a manufactured momentum.
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But they have a momentum, and that momentum is targeted
exactly at the places that will weaken society, where you
won't be able to afford food, where you won't be
able to trust the water that you're drinking, you won't
be able to trust the air that you're breathing. You
won't even be able to trust the medicines that you're taking,
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if you're even able to get access to those medicines,
because we have been turned over to an anti science
conspiracy theorist over at the Department of Health and Human Services.
And it's astonishing to me, but perhaps it shouldn't be,
because that's such as the nature of politics in America.
The majority of America simply does not pay attention until
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it's too late, and here we are at that point
where it is too late. We have elected Donald Trump.
He is appointed the absolute worst picks that you can imagine.
I'll go over some of those in today's episode. I
also want to get you up to date with what's
happening this week, so stay tuned. Before we go to break,
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I want to welcome all the new patrons. Thank you
so much for your support, and I want to encourage
you to go over to patreon dot com force Last
the BPD Show to not only become a patron, but
also to download Pastor Ben's guidebook for Surviving the Great
Maga Tribulation. I call it that the Great Maga Tribulation,
because that's exactly what it's getting ready to happen. It's
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not inevitable, it doesn't have to happen. But because of
the specific policy choices being made by Donald Trump, as
guided by Project twenty twenty five, we are going to
see in short order that the United States of America
and yes, the global system is getting ready to go
through what the Bible calls the Great Tribulation in the
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Book of Revelation, particularly chapter thirteen. And so I wanted
to give you some guidelines, some things that would help you.
It's not a fix all, there's no really, there's no
real way to fix this. But it is a way
for us to connect with one another, to push our
way through it, and to slow this down as much
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as we possibly can. There's advice in there from Timothy
Snyder as well as from a document from the precursor
to the CIA, where they encourage the people in Nazi
Germany who wanted to oppose the Nazis, gave them instructions
on how they can engage in simple sabotage.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Also have a section in there.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Where we're discussing the women's decision, women's decision to have
a sex boycott, and how empowering that is not only
for them, but also for exposing the hypocrisy of MAGA
men who want to control their bodies. It's all in
their Patreon dot com Force Last Show. It's free download
the guidebook. It's over one hundred pages of strategy for
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how we can fight back in this moment where Maga
seems to be on the ascent, at a time where
this country is weakened like never before.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Not because it had to.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Be this way, but because this is the exact situation
that conservatives and billionaires need America to be in for
them to maintain their grip on power and their grip
on all of the wealth and the society.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Will be back with more of than Benjamin Dixon Show
right after this.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Yeah, I'm in now with the stars. I'm gonna sing
with the earth, ten toes deep, fat, a child from
the turf. I never switched sides, like even when I die.
I'm a pride for the squad. A lot of ties
in the hearse I've been on the five. Kind of
hard to describe it.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Welcome back to the Benjamin Dixon Show. Visitors online at
the Benjamin dixonshow dot Com.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Wrule number one when facing an authoritarian regime is to
not obey in advance. This is according to Professor Timothy
Snyder of Yale University, who wrote about this in his
book on Tyranny, Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century. He
states in that book that most of authoritarian regime's power
is freely given by people who try to triangulate in
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advance to make sure that they can fit into this
new regime for their own personal safety, perhaps or for
their own professional advancement. This is exactly what we're seeing
happening in mainstream media, and this is what's happening with
Morning Joe. Joe Scarborough and Mika Brazinski announced this morning
that over the weekend they went to Marrow Lago and
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had dinner with Donald Trump President elect Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Now, why does this matter?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
For the last seven years or even longer than that, morning,
Joe has been in staunch opposition. They have benefited from
opposing Donald Trump. Just this year alone, they called Donald
Trump a fascist, which he is just very clearly based
on his policies and what he wants to do. What's
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who he's looking to prosecute, how he's looking to silence dissent,
and the entire machinations of MAGA clearly show us this
is who Donald Trump is. But their song and their
dance Morning Joe's song and dance has changed. Why Because
Donald Trump won the election and they want to find out,
as best as I can tell, how they fit or
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how they can fit into this new regime.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
We have to be very careful. I'm gonna play the
clip for you so that you can see it for yourself.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
It's not surprising, but it is rather alarming how quickly
people start to fold and give in and surrender to
the very forces that they know are going to be
detrimental not only to America holistically, but to individual groups.
And what happens is when you have mainstream media outlets
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who speak to millions of people every single day, every
single episode, when they begin to capitulate and when they
begin to surrender, it sends a signal to their viewers
and their listeners, people who otherwise would stand up and
stand against the authoritarianism. Well, Morning Joe and Miko Prazinski
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are now telling them, Hey, listen, let's all get along.
Listen let's let's let's not.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Make this as difficult as it needs to be or better. Yet,
they're saying resistance is futile.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
But what does that mean for those of us who
are the target of Donald Trump's fury? What does that
mean for those of us who are the target of
Donald Trump's agenda? How do you capitulate? How do you surrender?
At least make them work hard for it, at least
make Donald Trump and MAGA have to go out of
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their way.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
But if we.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Simply lay down, as I said, if we bow down
before this monstrosity that is MAGA, then we make their
way easy. There's no friction, there's no resistance, there's no inertia, and.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
So they're able to run up the scoreboard destroying democracy
in the ways that they have specifically outlined in Project
twenty twenty five and the ways that they are prepared
to execute within the first one hundred days.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
And if all of the mainstream.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Media begins to simply lay down and say, hey, we
want to get along, Hey we want to at least
talk to you, then what we're going to find out
is that this country falls into the arms of fascism
faster than we ever could have imagined.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Take a listen to this clip.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Over the past week, Joe and I have heard from
so many people, from political leaders to regular citizens, deeply
dismayed by several of President Elect Trump's cabinet selections, and
they are scared. Last Thursday, we expressed our own concerns
on this broadcast and even said we would appreciate the
opportunity to speak with the President elect himself. On Friday,
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we were given the opportunity to do just that. Joe
and I went to mar A Lago to meet personally
with President elect Trump. It was the first time we
have seen him in seven years now.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
We talked about a lot of issues, including abortion, mass deportation,
threats of political retribution against political opponents and media outlets.
We talked about had a good bit, and that's going
to come as no surprise to anybody who watches this
show has watched it over the past year or over
the past decade, that we didn't see eye to eye
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on a lot of issues, and we told him so.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
What we did agree on was to restart communications. My
father often spoke with world leaders with whom he and
in the United States profoundly disagreed that's a task shared
by reporters and commentators alike. We had not spoken to
President Trump since March of twenty twenty, other than a
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personal call Joe made to Trump on the morning after
the attempt on his life in Butler, Pennsylvania. In this meeting,
President Trump was tearful, he was upbeat. He seemed interested
in finding common ground with Democrats on some of the
most divisive issues. And for those asking why we would
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go speak to the president elect during such fraught time,
especially between us, I guess I would ask back, why
wouldn't we? Five years of political warfare has deeply divided
Washington and the country. We have been as clear as
we know how in expressing our deep concerns about President
Trump's actions and words in the coursening of public debate.
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But for eighty million Americans, election denialism, public trials, and
January sixth were not as important as the issues that
moved them to send Donald Trump back to the White
House with their vote. Joe and I realized it's time
to do something different, and that starts with not only
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talking about Donald Trump, but also talking with him.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Now, what's interesting about this is just a few months ago,
just a few months ago they were calling Donald Trump
of fascist, which he is.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
What changed? What change?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Is it the fact that they need act journalism, They
need to be able to interview the President of the
United States, They need to be able to be in
good graces with the President of the United States. Are
they afraid to stand in opposition to what Donald Trump
is doing? Does this mean that in a few years
the entire tone of Mourning Joe and the entire tone
and approach of MSNBC is going to be to align
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with Donald Trump. Does that mean that all of the
people who have been supporting this program and supporting.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
MSNBC, are they now going to find.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Themselves inundated with Fox News type propaganda to support Donald
Trump rather than to stand in opposition.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
And if MSNBC is not going to stand in.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Opposition, if Morning Joe, which is one of the largest
programs in this country, if they're not going to stand
in opposition, then who will?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Or are we as a nation going to give Donald
Trump a free pass to do whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
He wants to do, regardless of the implications for the
groups that he's targeted.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Despite the fact that if.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Donald Trump deports twenty million of the migrant working class,
that the food crisis in this country will skyrocket to
crisis that we can't simply not afford.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Does that mean that we sit.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Back and allow that to happen without any opposition whatsoever,
without anyone continuing to sound the alarm. It is as
if they have already calculated that there's nothing that they
can do, are nothing that they're willing to try. They're
not willing to put themselves out there in order to
take a stand in this moment when we need people
to take.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
As stand more than anything else.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Right now today, we need people who are fearless in
their opposition to don't Trump.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
We simply cannot afford to allow the entirety.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Of the discourse, the Overton window in the United States
of America, to close and consolidate around the ideologies of
Donald Trump, which are anathema, which are completely destructive to
the human spirit, to the American experiment to democracy. Oh
if all we do is say, hey, he won, let's
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go along with it, without even so.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Much as deconstructing how we got here.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
We did not get here simply because the American people
love Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
We got here because of the media.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
We got here because of Fox News, News Match, O
an n and all of the Echo Chamber, all of
the hundreds of programs and streams and YouTube channels that
are propped up by right wing money in order to
change the opinion of the masses. They know exactly how
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powerful mass media is. And what I guess they're saying
over at MSNBC and Morning Joe specifically, I guess what
Mika and Joe Scarborough are trying to tell us is that, Okay,
if we can't beat them, join them. No, if we
can't beat them, then we go down fighting. If we
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can't beat them, we take a stand until there's nothing
left to stand on.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Why Because I refuse, and I hope, I hope I'm
not by myself. I refuse to allow my soul to.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Be compromised in order to simply get along with someone
who has made it clear that they want to be
a dictator. If we don't take us stand now, if
we obey in advance, if we give authoritarians power without
any resistance, then there is no return from where we
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are headed. And not only would have Donald Trump won
the twenty twenty four election, but Donald Trump would have
overthrown the entirety of the American experiment and rewritten the
bounding Father's vision in his image.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
And in his likeness. And so many people have already.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Bowed down before this Golden idology apparently bec resistance.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
And Joe Staple.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Never gets me go city you mind, mother, the city
of mind. He navigates me down.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I was born in the city I was raised on.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
His welcome back to the Benjamin Dixon Show visitors online
at the Benjamin Dixonshow dot com.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
What.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Ryan Walters is the state Superintendent of Schools for the
state of Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Now, we've covered him in recent weeks because of his
allocation of six million dollars worth of taxpayer funds for
the purchase of fifty thousand Donald Trump Bibles. These are
bibles endorsed by Donald Trump for which he gets a
royalty a kickback on.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
These are fifty thousand Bibles that he is now flooding.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Ryan Walters is flooding the state of Oklahoma with forcing
them into the classrooms of every student. I want to
give you an update because he's gone one step further.
He is now using his authority in his position of
power to force teachers in every classroom across the state
to play the following video of him offering a prayer
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for Donald Trump, a clear violation of the First Amendment
rights of every student and every teacher, but also a
violation in his responsibility as the superintendent of schools, which
the second video will speak to. It is a video
of Walters in an interview on CNN where the anchor
made it very clear, listen, your students, the state of
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Oklahoma is ranked forty eight in the nation.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
In performance, but yet you are committing all this energy
and all of these.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Resources to getting a classroom to pray for Donald Trump
and to read the Donald Trump Bible. Now there are
multiple layers here, and let me set it up before
I give you the video, because I want you to
think about this as you watch the video. There are
a couple of things that are happening at the same time.
Number One, this is a loyalty. Oh, this is a pledge.
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This is Ryan Walters making it clear to Donald Trump
that I will do anything and everything to serve you,
dear leader.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
That's number one.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Number Two, this is a clear play for Christian fascists
in this nation, Christian nationalists who want to force.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
The nation to be Christian, which as a pastor, I
can tell you is impossible.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
You cannot force anyone to be Christian and do it
authentically because the Bible does not give you that framework.
You simply can't force people to become a Christian. But
it's not even so much about the Christianity part. It
is the compulsion and the control. They want to be
able to force people, students, women, everyone to do what
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they say and control the range of their possibilities. But
there's something else that's going on here. I believe that
what Ryan Walters is setting up he's trying to set
up a Supreme Court case to overturn the nineteen sixty
two and nineteen sixty three Supreme Court decisions that remove
prayer from the classrooms and remove the Bibles from the classrooms,
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recognizing a clear separation of church and state. This is
what I believe that he's doing, because he is clearly
stirring up the possibility of lawsuits as well as action
from parents.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
On the ground.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
There's a petition with over fifteen thousand signatures calling for
the impeachment and the removal of Ryan.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Walters, and so this is exactly what he wants. He
wants to be able to tell Donald Trump, I will
serve you no matter what it takes.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
He also wants to move the ball forward word for
Christian nationalism in this nation, and he wants to do
so by I believe invoking our causing a Supreme Court
case to occur in which the Supreme Court right now
is six ' to three majority conservative majority would most
certainly they would most certainly overturn the previous decisions, opening
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the door for Bibles to be forced into the classrooms
all around this nation. Let's take a listen to this
prayer that he offered, and I want you to just
observe the amount of commitment that these people have to
their dear leader, Donald Trump.
Speaker 8 (27:35):
We've also seen patriotism mocked and a hatred for this
country pushed by woke teachers geniens. We will not tolerate
that in any school in Oklahoma. We want our students
to be patriotic, We want our students to love this country,
and we want all students religious liberty to be protected.
I will now say a prayer, and to be clear, students,
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you don't have to join, but if you so wish,
I'm gonna go ahead and Dear God, thank you for
all the blessings you've given our country. I pray for
our leaders to make the right decisions. I pray in
particular for President Donald Trump and his team as they
continue to bring about change to the country. I pray
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for our parents, teachers, and kids that they get the
best education possible and live high quality lives. I also
pray that we continue to teach love of country to
our young people, and that our students understand what makes
America great and that they continue to love this country.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Listen, I'm not I don't normally go about the business
of critiquing someone's prayers, but I can tell that this
is a person who doesn't pray in private.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Right, I'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
If you if you're if you are a person who prays,
if you know, you.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Know, that's no more.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Number two, This is such a pathetic prostration.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Before Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
This is Ryan Walters using the authority that has been
given to him by the state of Oklahoma to prostrate
himself before Donald Trump. This is like this is like
in olden times when a new ruler would come into
power and all of the various leaders across the land
will come and offer a tribute. Ryan Walters has offered
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Donald Trump a tribute in terms of six million dollars
worth of purchases of his Bible, as well as now
having the students of Oklahoma prey on his beaf. This
is what he is focused on versus the fact that
his state is performing forty eight out of the entire nation.
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Listen to this interview that he just had with see
it in that outlines this very fact.
Speaker 9 (29:55):
Let's talk about Oklahoma history, because Oklahoma is forty eighth
in the country when it comes to education, it's ranked
forty eighth in the country. Your critics say, the money
that you're spending on the Bible, I'm putting Bibles in
every classroom. You've asked for six million dollars should be
spent in other ways to better educate the students. Because
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they're very worried about where Oklahoma is ranked in the
education system. What do you say to that.
Speaker 8 (30:23):
We are in the middle of a turnaround here because
we are following President Trump's agenda. This is the agenda
for the entire country. We have school choice, we have
merit pay. We are rejecting this left wing ideology in
the classroom. We are promoting American exceptionalism. Look, we are
pressing students forward to see academic outcomes improved. We've seen
record improvement, record numbers of schools are improving here in Oklahoma.
That's what you're going to see for the whole country
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under President Trump. And again you continue to see critics. Yeah,
they act like I'm controversial because I'm creating change in
a status quo system that has failed kids and failed parents.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
It's hilarious to me.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
He has been state superintendent in the schools for an
entire term, and yet he is still positioning this as
a turnaround and he's trying to No, you have had time,
Ryan Walters, to address some of the core underlying issues
for the state of Oklahoma, and what you have done
instead is use your power as the state superintendent.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Of schools to further enrich Donald.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Trump with a tribute of six million dollars of purchases
of his Bible, as well as now forcing the students
in the state to pray for Donald Trump. And listen
how he seamlessly conflates anyone who opposes this with leftism,
as if it is a leftist idea to have the
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separation of church and state that was enshrined in the Constitution.
That is an idea from the founding fathers. That is
something that did not come from the left, even though
those of us on the left do support the separation
of church and state. And here's why I support it
as a pastor aford it, because which.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Version of Christianity are we going to go with? Ryan.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Clearly, you would oppose the liberation theology.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
The liberation theology that.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Preaches that we should care for the least of these,
that preachers that we should care for the immigrant, that
preaches quite literally what Jesus taught us to preach. You
would oppose that because you would dismiss it as leftism.
So the reason I opposed our support rather the separation
of church and state is because I know, without a
shadow of a doubt, the type of religion that always
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gets into power is the type of religion that can
be used in service of powerful people.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
When the Bible is very clear.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Sorry, I don't mean to preach to you all, but
the Bible is very clear that power should.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Be used for the least of these.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Take a look at Luke the twenty second chapter, the
twenty fifth and the twenty sixth verse, where Jesus made
it clear that those in power should use their power
for the least of these. That's not the type of
Christianity that they're going to put into the classrooms of Oklahoma.
They're gonna put the type of Ristianity in the classrooms
of Oklahoma that promotes mass deportations or what is really
should be known as ethnic cleansing of Latin Latinos. The
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type of Christianity that they would put into power in
this nation is the one that exploits the least of
these and does so for the benefit.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Of the richest in this country.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
It's the type of Christianity that wants to charge you
for your health care instead of having a health care
system that simply heals people. And it is the type
of Christianity that is quite honestly antithetical to who Jesus
was and is so the reason I support the separation
of church and state is because I know that every
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time we have seen in history where religion gets into
bed with the state with government power, we've seen some
of the greatest abuses of power and the most extreme
examples of violence throughout world history without fail. But when
you elect people whose commitment is more to Donald Trump
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than God.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
By the way, let's just be sure this guy's.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Commitment is more to Donald Trump than God, no questions asked.
And when you elect those type of sycophants into power,
you should expect the kind of clown show that we're getting. Okay, folks,
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And gender non conforming Individuals to another episode of The
Benjamin Dixon Show. I am, of course your host, Benjamin Dixon.
Today is Monday. It is November eighteenth, twenty twenty four.
Thank you so much for joining me. We have not
spoke since the election where Donald Trump soared to victory
over Kamala Harris in a devastating defeat. I just have
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to admit it was painful. It is a painful reality
that so many Americans buy into the bigotry of Donald Trump,
and that so many other Americans just weren't paying attention
enough to realize exactly what Donald Trump said he was
going to do.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
There's so many.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
People who have buyer's remorse already all over the internet.
You see example after example of people really asking, is
Donald Trump really going to end the Department of Education?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, that's what he said, That's what he's gonna do.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Is Donald Trump really gonna deport twenty million of our
migrant working class, or the more precise way of saying
it would be the ethnic cleansing of migrant workers from
this country. Yes, that's what he said he's going to do,
and that's exactly what he's going to do. And is
that going to cause an increase in cost of food?
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Probably to the tune of four hundred percent, some estimates
say it could be even more. Yes, that's exactly what
he's going to do, because that's what he said he's
going to do. And it's a little demoralizing to realize
that so many Americans voted for him out of the
fad and the trend that was manufacture talk about manufacturing consent.
(02:04):
The amount of money that was placed behind Donald Trump
across social media alone is astonishing, billions of dollars, not
only in just directly paid advertisements, but free media that
he received from so many outlets. Donald Trump's victory was
manufactured by the manufacturing of consent.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
There was a right word shift in this country, but.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
That came as a result of years of conservative media
pouring billions of dollars into right wing voices, billionaires pouring
their money into right wing media, and with us not
having a single platform in response, not of the size
and the scale and the scope of so many of
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the platforms that have made America what it is today.
A far right wing bastion of bigotry and demagogery.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
That didn't just happen overnight. That happened after.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Years and years and years of investments by billionaires into
changing the opinion and the mindsets it this manosphere that
is really kind of at the core of this, this
hatred and disdain for women, that didn't just come naturally,
even though I'm sure there's plenty of evidence to show
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that there is this animus between men, especially young men,
and the women that they can't get yes, but the
organized fashion with which they moved in this election came
as a result.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Of investments from billionaires.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
What does that tell us the fact that consent can
be manufactured is accurate and if no one is putting
money into the system to balance the equation so that
all voices can truly be heard. Because right now we
live in a society where they would tell you that
it's all about free speech, but we see the suppression
of left.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Wing voices every single day.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I am perhaps the most suppressed voice on social media
on YouTube for certain, there's no question about that. We
even had a researcher who joined us on our shore
years ago who was astonished how many blocks were on
my channel alone.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
And that's just me.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
How many other left winged creators, content creators, and commentators
find their voices suppressed. Like Elon Musk said about Twitter
when he purchased it, he said, you may have the
freedom of speech, but that doesn't mean you have the.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Freedom of reach.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
The throttling of left wing voices while billions of dollars
are poured into promoting right wing voices like Candice Owens,
Ben Shapiro, Dave Rubin, Benny Johnson, Tim Poole, two of
those who received one hundred thousand dollars per episode from
a network affiliated with Vladimir Putin. The money and the
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wealth and the power has been given to right wing voices,
and that is how we got where we are today.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
We're not here by circumstance.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
We're not here as a natural evolution of American society.
We're here because of an intervention that money created on
behalf of the powerful, and the powerful coalescing around this idea.
The way that they get and keep and maintain power
forever is by constantly driving a level of hatred and
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bigotry that can.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Spill over into actual violence.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Right now, we are a nation that's teetering on disaster
out of inevitability, no, out of intentional sabotage of the
body politic, of the social contract, of the ability for
us to have a nation that is a community of
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diverse voices and diverse experiences to grow into something that
is we called a melting pot, but we never really
got a chance to be that because of the intervention,
the interference and yes, the ideologies of the wealthiest people
in this planet.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
On this planet.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
That's how we got here, because they realized here's all
they need.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
They needed.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
They needed Christians, they particularly needed Christian nationalists. They needed
the anti woman movement in every form. They needed the
anti science, anti Bax coalition. They absolutely needed every part
of the Republican Party to fall in line and lockstep.
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And with that coalition they were able to get Donald
Trump back into power for a second term, despite the
fact that he has already promised a twenty percent tariff
on all goods imported into the United States, which is
going to drive not only trade war like we've never
seen before, but it's going to drive up the prices
for every day items that we're used to getting because
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of global trade. Every decision is being made, every appointment
that's being made. Consider Robert Kennedy Junior. Consider that appointment
specifically over the Health and Human Services. Consider his position
on vaccines, his position on clean water, his position on
the EPA, and all of their positions on rolling back
(07:29):
the red tape and cutting and slashing all of the
government agencies and bureaucracies, as if that action in and
of itself speaks of fiscal responsibility. Never mind the fact
that what they're cutting is not only institutional knowledge, but
they're cutting an infrastructure that helps keep you alive, the
regulations that help keep us alive. Because it's not capitalism
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that's going to protect you. Capitalism will cut corners every
single opportunity that it gets. And now Donald Trump has
what they want to call a mandate. When we look
at the numbers, it's not actually a mandate. What he has, though,
is momentum. It might be a false momentum, it might
be a contrived momentum, it might be a manufactured momentum.
(08:16):
But they have a momentum, and that momentum is targeted
exactly at the places that will weaken society, where you
won't be able to afford food, where you won't be
able to trust the water that you're drinking, you won't
be able to trust the air that you're breathing. You
won't even be able to trust the medicines that you're taking,
(08:37):
if you're even able to get access to those medicines,
because we have been turned over to an anti science
conspiracy theorist over at the Department of Health and Human Services.
And it's astonishing to me, but perhaps it shouldn't be,
because that's such as the nature of politics in America.
The majority of America simply does not pay attention until
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it's too late, and here we are at that point
where it is too late. We have elected Donald Trump.
He is appointed the absolute worst picks that you can imagine.
I'll go over some of those in today's episode. I
also want to get you up to date with what's
happening this week, so stay tuned. Before we go to break,
(09:20):
I want to welcome all the new patrons. Thank you
so much for your support, and I want to encourage
you to go over to patreon dot com force Last
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also to download Pastor Ben's guidebook for Surviving the Great
Maga Tribulation. I call it that the Great Maga Tribulation,
because that's exactly what it's getting ready to happen. It's
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not inevitable, it doesn't have to happen. But because of
the specific policy choices being made by Donald Trump, as
guided by Project twenty twenty five, we are going to
see in short order that the United States of America
and yes, the global system is getting ready to go
through what the Bible calls the Great Tribulation in the
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Book of Revelation, particularly chapter thirteen. And so I wanted
to give you some guidelines, some things that would help you.
It's not a fix all, there's no really, there's no
real way to fix this. But it is a way
for us to connect with one another, to push our
way through it, and to slow this down as much
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as we possibly can. There's advice in there from Timothy
Snyder as well as from a document from the precursor
to the CIA, where they encourage the people in Nazi
Germany who wanted to oppose the Nazis, gave them instructions
on how they can engage in simple sabotage.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Also have a section in there.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Where we're discussing the women's decision, women's decision to have
a sex boycott, and how empowering that is not only
for them, but also for exposing the hypocrisy of MAGA
men who want to control their bodies. It's all in
their Patreon dot com Force Last Show. It's free download
the guidebook. It's over one hundred pages of strategy for
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how we can fight back in this moment where Maga
seems to be on the ascent, at a time where
this country is weakened like never before.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Not because it had to.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Be this way, but because this is the exact situation
that conservatives and billionaires need America to be in for
them to maintain their grip on power and their grip
on all of the wealth and the society.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Will be back with more of than Benjamin Dixon Show
right after this.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Yeah, I'm in now with the stars. I'm gonna sing
with the earth, ten toes deep, fat, a child from
the turf. I never switched sides, like even when I die.
I'm a pride for the squad. A lot of ties
in the hearse I've been on the five. Kind of
hard to describe it.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
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the Benjamin dixonshow dot Com.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Wrule number one when facing an authoritarian regime is to
not obey in advance. This is according to Professor Timothy
Snyder of Yale University, who wrote about this in his
book on Tyranny, Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century. He
states in that book that most of authoritarian regime's power
is freely given by people who try to triangulate in
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advance to make sure that they can fit into this
new regime for their own personal safety, perhaps or for
their own professional advancement. This is exactly what we're seeing
happening in mainstream media, and this is what's happening with
Morning Joe. Joe Scarborough and Mika Brazinski announced this morning
that over the weekend they went to Marrow Lago and
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had dinner with Donald Trump President elect Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Now, why does this matter?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
For the last seven years or even longer than that, morning,
Joe has been in staunch opposition. They have benefited from
opposing Donald Trump. Just this year alone, they called Donald
Trump a fascist, which he is just very clearly based
on his policies and what he wants to do. What's
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who he's looking to prosecute, how he's looking to silence dissent,
and the entire machinations of MAGA clearly show us this
is who Donald Trump is. But their song and their
dance Morning Joe's song and dance has changed. Why Because
Donald Trump won the election and they want to find out,
as best as I can tell, how they fit or
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how they can fit into this new regime.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
We have to be very careful. I'm gonna play the
clip for you so that you can see it for yourself.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
It's not surprising, but it is rather alarming how quickly
people start to fold and give in and surrender to
the very forces that they know are going to be
detrimental not only to America holistically, but to individual groups.
And what happens is when you have mainstream media outlets
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who speak to millions of people every single day, every
single episode, when they begin to capitulate and when they
begin to surrender, it sends a signal to their viewers
and their listeners, people who otherwise would stand up and
stand against the authoritarianism. Well, Morning Joe and Miko Prazinski
(14:52):
are now telling them, Hey, listen, let's all get along.
Listen let's let's let's not.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Make this as difficult as it needs to be or better. Yet,
they're saying resistance is futile.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
But what does that mean for those of us who
are the target of Donald Trump's fury? What does that
mean for those of us who are the target of
Donald Trump's agenda? How do you capitulate? How do you surrender?
At least make them work hard for it, at least
make Donald Trump and MAGA have to go out of
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their way.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
But if we.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Simply lay down, as I said, if we bow down
before this monstrosity that is MAGA, then we make their
way easy. There's no friction, there's no resistance, there's no inertia, and.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
So they're able to run up the scoreboard destroying democracy
in the ways that they have specifically outlined in Project
twenty twenty five and the ways that they are prepared
to execute within the first one hundred days.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
And if all of the mainstream.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Media begins to simply lay down and say, hey, we
want to get along, Hey we want to at least
talk to you, then what we're going to find out
is that this country falls into the arms of fascism
faster than we ever could have imagined.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Take a listen to this clip.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Over the past week, Joe and I have heard from
so many people, from political leaders to regular citizens, deeply
dismayed by several of President Elect Trump's cabinet selections, and
they are scared. Last Thursday, we expressed our own concerns
on this broadcast and even said we would appreciate the
opportunity to speak with the President elect himself. On Friday,
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we were given the opportunity to do just that. Joe
and I went to mar A Lago to meet personally
with President elect Trump. It was the first time we
have seen him in seven years now.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
We talked about a lot of issues, including abortion, mass deportation,
threats of political retribution against political opponents and media outlets.
We talked about had a good bit, and that's going
to come as no surprise to anybody who watches this
show has watched it over the past year or over
the past decade, that we didn't see eye to eye
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on a lot of issues, and we told him so.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
What we did agree on was to restart communications. My
father often spoke with world leaders with whom he and
in the United States profoundly disagreed that's a task shared
by reporters and commentators alike. We had not spoken to
President Trump since March of twenty twenty, other than a
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personal call Joe made to Trump on the morning after
the attempt on his life in Butler, Pennsylvania. In this meeting,
President Trump was tearful, he was upbeat. He seemed interested
in finding common ground with Democrats on some of the
most divisive issues. And for those asking why we would
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go speak to the president elect during such fraught time,
especially between us, I guess I would ask back, why
wouldn't we? Five years of political warfare has deeply divided
Washington and the country. We have been as clear as
we know how in expressing our deep concerns about President
Trump's actions and words in the coursening of public debate.
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But for eighty million Americans, election denialism, public trials, and
January sixth were not as important as the issues that
moved them to send Donald Trump back to the White
House with their vote. Joe and I realized it's time
to do something different, and that starts with not only
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talking about Donald Trump, but also talking with him.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Now, what's interesting about this is just a few months ago,
just a few months ago they were calling Donald Trump
of fascist, which he is.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
What changed? What change?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Is it the fact that they need act journalism, They
need to be able to interview the President of the
United States, They need to be able to be in
good graces with the President of the United States. Are
they afraid to stand in opposition to what Donald Trump
is doing? Does this mean that in a few years
the entire tone of Mourning Joe and the entire tone
and approach of MSNBC is going to be to align
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with Donald Trump. Does that mean that all of the
people who have been supporting this program and supporting.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
MSNBC, are they now going to find.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Themselves inundated with Fox News type propaganda to support Donald
Trump rather than to stand in opposition.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
And if MSNBC is not going to stand in.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Opposition, if Morning Joe, which is one of the largest
programs in this country, if they're not going to stand
in opposition, then who will?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Or are we as a nation going to give Donald
Trump a free pass to do whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
He wants to do, regardless of the implications for the
groups that he's targeted.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Despite the fact that if.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Donald Trump deports twenty million of the migrant working class,
that the food crisis in this country will skyrocket to
crisis that we can't simply not afford.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Does that mean that we sit.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Back and allow that to happen without any opposition whatsoever,
without anyone continuing to sound the alarm. It is as
if they have already calculated that there's nothing that they
can do, are nothing that they're willing to try. They're
not willing to put themselves out there in order to
take a stand in this moment when we need people
to take.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
As stand more than anything else.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Right now today, we need people who are fearless in
their opposition to don't Trump.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
We simply cannot afford to allow the entirety.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Of the discourse, the Overton window in the United States
of America, to close and consolidate around the ideologies of
Donald Trump, which are anathema, which are completely destructive to
the human spirit, to the American experiment to democracy. Oh
if all we do is say, hey, he won, let's
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go along with it, without even so.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Much as deconstructing how we got here.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
We did not get here simply because the American people
love Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
We got here because of the media.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
We got here because of Fox News, News Match, O
an n and all of the Echo Chamber, all of
the hundreds of programs and streams and YouTube channels that
are propped up by right wing money in order to
change the opinion of the masses. They know exactly how
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powerful mass media is. And what I guess they're saying
over at MSNBC and Morning Joe specifically, I guess what
Mika and Joe Scarborough are trying to tell us is that, Okay,
if we can't beat them, join them. No, if we
can't beat them, then we go down fighting. If we
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can't beat them, we take a stand until there's nothing
left to stand on.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Why Because I refuse, and I hope, I hope I'm
not by myself. I refuse to allow my soul to.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Be compromised in order to simply get along with someone
who has made it clear that they want to be
a dictator. If we don't take us stand now, if
we obey in advance, if we give authoritarians power without
any resistance, then there is no return from where we
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are headed. And not only would have Donald Trump won
the twenty twenty four election, but Donald Trump would have
overthrown the entirety of the American experiment and rewritten the
bounding Father's vision in his image.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
And in his likeness. And so many people have already.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Bowed down before this Golden idology apparently bec resistance.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
And Joe Staple.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Never gets me go city you mind, mother, the city
of mind. He navigates me down.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I was born in the city I was raised on.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
His welcome back to the Benjamin Dixon Show visitors online
at the Benjamin Dixonshow dot com.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
What.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Ryan Walters is the state Superintendent of Schools for the
state of Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Now, we've covered him in recent weeks because of his
allocation of six million dollars worth of taxpayer funds for
the purchase of fifty thousand Donald Trump Bibles. These are
bibles endorsed by Donald Trump for which he gets a
royalty a kickback on.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
These are fifty thousand Bibles that he is now flooding.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Ryan Walters is flooding the state of Oklahoma with forcing
them into the classrooms of every student. I want to
give you an update because he's gone one step further.
He is now using his authority in his position of
power to force teachers in every classroom across the state
to play the following video of him offering a prayer
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for Donald Trump, a clear violation of the First Amendment
rights of every student and every teacher, but also a
violation in his responsibility as the superintendent of schools, which
the second video will speak to. It is a video
of Walters in an interview on CNN where the anchor
made it very clear, listen, your students, the state of
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Oklahoma is ranked forty eight in the nation.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
In performance, but yet you are committing all this energy
and all of these.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Resources to getting a classroom to pray for Donald Trump
and to read the Donald Trump Bible. Now there are
multiple layers here, and let me set it up before
I give you the video, because I want you to
think about this as you watch the video. There are
a couple of things that are happening at the same time.
Number One, this is a loyalty. Oh, this is a pledge.
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This is Ryan Walters making it clear to Donald Trump
that I will do anything and everything to serve you,
dear leader.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
That's number one.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Number Two, this is a clear play for Christian fascists
in this nation, Christian nationalists who want to force.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
The nation to be Christian, which as a pastor, I
can tell you is impossible.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
You cannot force anyone to be Christian and do it
authentically because the Bible does not give you that framework.
You simply can't force people to become a Christian. But
it's not even so much about the Christianity part. It
is the compulsion and the control. They want to be
able to force people, students, women, everyone to do what
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they say and control the range of their possibilities. But
there's something else that's going on here. I believe that
what Ryan Walters is setting up he's trying to set
up a Supreme Court case to overturn the nineteen sixty
two and nineteen sixty three Supreme Court decisions that remove
prayer from the classrooms and remove the Bibles from the classrooms,
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recognizing a clear separation of church and state. This is
what I believe that he's doing, because he is clearly
stirring up the possibility of lawsuits as well as action
from parents.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
On the ground.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
There's a petition with over fifteen thousand signatures calling for
the impeachment and the removal of Ryan.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Walters, and so this is exactly what he wants. He
wants to be able to tell Donald Trump, I will
serve you no matter what it takes.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
He also wants to move the ball forward word for
Christian nationalism in this nation, and he wants to do
so by I believe invoking our causing a Supreme Court
case to occur in which the Supreme Court right now
is six ' to three majority conservative majority would most
certainly they would most certainly overturn the previous decisions, opening
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the door for Bibles to be forced into the classrooms
all around this nation. Let's take a listen to this
prayer that he offered, and I want you to just
observe the amount of commitment that these people have to
their dear leader, Donald Trump.
Speaker 8 (27:35):
We've also seen patriotism mocked and a hatred for this
country pushed by woke teachers geniens. We will not tolerate
that in any school in Oklahoma. We want our students
to be patriotic, We want our students to love this country,
and we want all students religious liberty to be protected.
I will now say a prayer, and to be clear, students,
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you don't have to join, but if you so wish,
I'm gonna go ahead and Dear God, thank you for
all the blessings you've given our country. I pray for
our leaders to make the right decisions. I pray in
particular for President Donald Trump and his team as they
continue to bring about change to the country. I pray
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for our parents, teachers, and kids that they get the
best education possible and live high quality lives. I also
pray that we continue to teach love of country to
our young people, and that our students understand what makes
America great and that they continue to love this country.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Listen, I'm not I don't normally go about the business
of critiquing someone's prayers, but I can tell that this
is a person who doesn't pray in private.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Right, I'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
If you if you're if you are a person who prays,
if you know, you.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Know, that's no more.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Number two, This is such a pathetic prostration.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Before Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
This is Ryan Walters using the authority that has been
given to him by the state of Oklahoma to prostrate
himself before Donald Trump. This is like this is like
in olden times when a new ruler would come into
power and all of the various leaders across the land
will come and offer a tribute. Ryan Walters has offered
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Donald Trump a tribute in terms of six million dollars
worth of purchases of his Bible, as well as now
having the students of Oklahoma prey on his beaf. This
is what he is focused on versus the fact that
his state is performing forty eight out of the entire nation.
(29:50):
Listen to this interview that he just had with see
it in that outlines this very fact.
Speaker 9 (29:55):
Let's talk about Oklahoma history, because Oklahoma is forty eighth
in the country when it comes to education, it's ranked
forty eighth in the country. Your critics say, the money
that you're spending on the Bible, I'm putting Bibles in
every classroom. You've asked for six million dollars should be
spent in other ways to better educate the students. Because
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they're very worried about where Oklahoma is ranked in the
education system. What do you say to that.
Speaker 8 (30:23):
We are in the middle of a turnaround here because
we are following President Trump's agenda. This is the agenda
for the entire country. We have school choice, we have
merit pay. We are rejecting this left wing ideology in
the classroom. We are promoting American exceptionalism. Look, we are
pressing students forward to see academic outcomes improved. We've seen
record improvement, record numbers of schools are improving here in Oklahoma.
That's what you're going to see for the whole country
(30:44):
under President Trump. And again you continue to see critics. Yeah,
they act like I'm controversial because I'm creating change in
a status quo system that has failed kids and failed parents.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
It's hilarious to me.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
He has been state superintendent in the schools for an
entire term, and yet he is still positioning this as
a turnaround and he's trying to No, you have had time,
Ryan Walters, to address some of the core underlying issues
for the state of Oklahoma, and what you have done
instead is use your power as the state superintendent.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Of schools to further enrich Donald.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Trump with a tribute of six million dollars of purchases
of his Bible, as well as now forcing the students
in the state to pray for Donald Trump. And listen
how he seamlessly conflates anyone who opposes this with leftism,
as if it is a leftist idea to have the
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separation of church and state that was enshrined in the Constitution.
That is an idea from the founding fathers. That is
something that did not come from the left, even though
those of us on the left do support the separation
of church and state. And here's why I support it
as a pastor aford it, because which.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Version of Christianity are we going to go with? Ryan.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Clearly, you would oppose the liberation theology.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
The liberation theology that.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Preaches that we should care for the least of these,
that preachers that we should care for the immigrant, that
preaches quite literally what Jesus taught us to preach. You
would oppose that because you would dismiss it as leftism.
So the reason I opposed our support rather the separation
of church and state is because I know, without a
shadow of a doubt, the type of religion that always
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gets into power is the type of religion that can
be used in service of powerful people.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
When the Bible is very clear.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Sorry, I don't mean to preach to you all, but
the Bible is very clear that power should.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Be used for the least of these.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Take a look at Luke the twenty second chapter, the
twenty fifth and the twenty sixth verse, where Jesus made
it clear that those in power should use their power
for the least of these. That's not the type of
Christianity that they're going to put into the classrooms of Oklahoma.
They're gonna put the type of Ristianity in the classrooms
of Oklahoma that promotes mass deportations or what is really
should be known as ethnic cleansing of Latin Latinos. The
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type of Christianity that they would put into power in
this nation is the one that exploits the least of
these and does so for the benefit.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Of the richest in this country.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
It's the type of Christianity that wants to charge you
for your health care instead of having a health care
system that simply heals people. And it is the type
of Christianity that is quite honestly antithetical to who Jesus
was and is so the reason I support the separation
of church and state is because I know that every
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time we have seen in history where religion gets into
bed with the state with government power, we've seen some
of the greatest abuses of power and the most extreme
examples of violence throughout world history without fail. But when
you elect people whose commitment is more to Donald Trump
(34:02):
than God.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
By the way, let's just be sure this guy's.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Commitment is more to Donald Trump than God, no questions asked.
And when you elect those type of sycophants into power,
you should expect the kind of clown show that we're getting. Okay, folks,
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