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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome ladies, gentlemen, and gender non conforming individuals to an
actual episode of The Benjamin Dixon Show. This is not
past their office hours, this is not ai reflection time.
It's time to get down to some politics because we
are dealing with We're dealing with something that needs to
be addressed very immediately, and I want to bring your attention.
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All eyes are on New York City right now with
the victory of Zoron Mandami and the pushback that he
is immediately getting from not only Republicans, not only MAGA,
but Democrats, which is why I wrote this piece over
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on sub stack. I'll drop the link. Whatever the Democratic
Establishment does to Zoran in New York Sea's NYC's mayor race,
we do to them period in the midterm. Don't look
at us to talk about the threat that Donald Trump
poses to America. If you undermine Zorn the way you
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undermined India Walton in Buffalo, Buffalo, New York, just up
the road from NYC. We've seen this before. We have
seen where the Democratic Party, the Establishment will completely sabotage
the campaign of their own duly elected primary victor, their nominee.
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And what will they do? They will sabotage them. Some
of them will just go out and outright vote independent.
So good. If you're going to vote independent against Zoran,
then we're going to vote independent in twenty twenty six
and twenty twenty eight. That's what we have to do.
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We have to hold the line and we have to
let them know right now that if they play games
in New York City because why because he's a democratic socialist.
I find it hilarious that we have Democrats who are
dropping the democratic portion of democratic socialists in order to
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make socialism even scarier. Oh, he's a socialist, he's a communist,
he's a Leninist, he's a Marxist, Saunding. We have Democrats
who are sounding like rush Limbaugh. May he rest in
piss excuse me, that's not very pastor. I told you guys,
this is the Benjamin Dixon Show. This isn't pastor's office hours.
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I'm going to share some clips with you. I'm going
to share some audio of Senator New York State Senator,
or rather New York Senator from the Senator Kristen Jillibrand,
Senator from the State of New York. I was going
to get it right after a while, took a couple tries.
I'm rusty. I've been doing a lot of preaching. I
haven't been doing a whole lot of politics, which is
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why I'm on a preaching sabbatical right now. My wife,
pastor Jada, she is she is doing all the preaching
on Sunday mornings and on Wednesday nights because I needed to.
I needed to return my focus just for a little while,
back onto American politics because they're going to run the
same play again. They're already mounting up to do it.
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Eric Adams, the Mayor of New York, is currently poised
to run as an independent. He already has Republican support.
In fact, they are discussing finding the current GOP nominee
for mayor in the City of New York a job
in the Trump administration because if they can get him
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a job in the Trump administration, that means Eric Adams
will be able to run as a Republican. And don't
you just know it, if you paid attention to what
happened in twenty twenty one with India Walton, I'll read
a bit of my article so I can give you
more of the details. But if you paid attention to
what happened in twenty twenty one with India Walton, you
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would realize that same play happened. Matter of fact, it
was a black man mayor. Funny how that works. They'll
use they'll they will be so pro black until what
we have India Walton, a black woman who was a
Democratic socialist, a nurse, a mother, and a Democratic socialist.
And then they couldn't accept the fact that someone from
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outside of the establishment beat the establishment nominee. And what
do they do well? Governor Cathy Hochel at the time
refused to endorse India Walton, and so far today she
has refused to endorse Zoran. This is her today. I
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want you to take a listen. She's asked very directly,
are you going to endorse? Here is her response, will.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
You support his candidacy and will you back him? You know,
the election just completed. I had a chance to call
and congratulate him on the Tuesday's primary and look forward
to having conversation. Obviously there's areas of difference in our positions,
but I also think we need to have those conversations.
In the meantime, I truly am not focused on the
politics for six months away from inauguration day and that
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will determine who I'm working with for the next four years.
And that's important because you what I'm doing. I'm focusing
on affordability and making New York City state and making
the state safe. So that's my primary objective right now.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
So are you skeptical then of him? And then also
the that's a whole lot of words. That's a whole
lot of words. When you all, She's just say vote
blue no matter who. Isn't that what they tell us
to do is not What they tell us to do
is to vote blue no matter who. Every election, whenever
the primary is one, unless it is someone who is
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not from the Democratic establishment. That is the catch, that
is the gag, and that is why we have to
put pressure on them immediately to let them know that
whatever they do, whatever the Democratic Establishment does to Zoron
in NYC's mayoral election, we do to them full stop,
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period point blank, because if we don't let them know
that immediately, then they are going to feel free and
comfortable to do whatever they want to do to Zoron
because he's a big, bad, scary socialist Muslim. The Islama
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phobia this week has been top shelf. Excuse me. I mean,
it's just the first thing. This has been the highest
level of Islama phobia that I have seen in this
nation since immediately after nine eleven. And the fact that
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it's coming from Democrats. That that, my friends, is not
so much shocking but revealing. It shows you that deep
down underneath that there is a bunch of Democrats who
are just as racist, just as bigoted, just as problematic
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as anyone from Mega. Matter of fact, they're planning right
now to align with MAGA because the only people I
see giving more hate to Zoron than Democrats is MAGA.
And so they're preparing to have a Maga Democratic Establishment merger.
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And it's going to happen through Eric Adams, that bastardized
child that will come from MAGA and the Democrats. And
I call it that because look at this every other
situation in scenario, they want to convince you that MAGA
is basically the Antichrist, which they are. They are a
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system of Antichrist, there's no question about it. But the
Democrats are willing, some of them, not all of them.
The Democratic Establishment has shown that they will side with
Republicans to undermine their own candidate like they did in
Buffalo with India Walton. I want to read a few
lines out of the substack piece, and I hope that
you will go over to the substack and subscribe for
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free and get all of the works the words that
I'm putting down. Zoron Mandami has just won the Democratic
nomination for mayor of New York City. Andrew Cuomo, rejected
by the voters, now threatens and independent run. Current Mayor
Eric Adams, a man under federal investigation who abandoned the
party and embraced Trump's DOJ protection racket, has already declared
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his own independent candidacy. The stage is said, the players
are known, and we already know how this play ends
unless we rewrite the script. Which is why we must
be perfectly clear from the outset. Whatever the Democratic Establishment
does to Zoron Madoni in the mayoral general election, we
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will do to the Democratic Establishment in twenty twenty six,
in twenty twenty eight, and in every contest going forward
until nothing remains of your power structure. This isn't a tantrum,
this isn't a threat. It is a strategic reflection of
your actions and your energy directly back towards you, because
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progressives have seen this all before, haven't we. We remember
exactly what you what the Democratic establishment did to India Walton.
India Walton, a working class black woman, nurse, mother and
proud Democratic socialists, won the Democratic primary for mayor of Buffalo,
New New York, just up the road from NYC. She
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defeated fourth term incumbent Byron Brown. She won fair and square,
running on a platform centered on poor and working people.
But the establishment could not stomach the thought of a
socialist mayor, let alone a black woman. They couldn't control,
So what did they do? Watch this? Governor Kathy Holkle
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refused to endorse her, just like she did today. She
has so far refused to endorse Zoron. The State and
National Democratic Party stayed silent. Byron Brown, backed by Republican
donors and operatives, mounted a right end campaign. The party
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establishment didn't stop him. They stood aside or helped. They
worked with Republicans to undermine their own nominee, and it worked.
They stole victory dire directly from our black sister. Whatever
the Democratic Establishment does to Zoron in NYC's mayoral election,
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we do to them. We absolutely must, and we have
to let it be known right now. We have to
We need to let it be known right now because
it is a preemptive strike. We have to let it
be known right now. We can't quietly wait and see
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what they do. We have to shape their options. And
their options are very clear. They are going to destroy
the entirety of the Democratic establishment. And you know what,
maybe that's what needs to happen. Maybe that's what needs
to happen. Maybe they need to go ahead and show
who they really are for all of the holdouts, like me,
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I was a holdout. I was a holdout, and I
voted against MAGA every single election. Twenty six I voted
against MAGA. Twenty twenty, I voted against MAGA. Twenty twenty four.
I voted against MAGA. Why because I understood very clearly
the existential threat that Donald Trump posed to America. And
we're living in it right now, are we not. We're
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certainly living in it right now. However, if the Democratic
establishment does what they are shaping themselves, they're working themselves up,
they're trying to get the confidence. The Democratic donors are
right now discussing what they're going to do because they're
so afraid of Zoron. He's such a big, bad, scary
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socialist Muslim, That's what they're saying. And if they are
free to run that campaign and then watch this run
it parallel to MAGA running the same campaign against Zoron,
What own earth? Why would we support Democrats ever again?
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And I mean ever again? Oh well, pastor Ben in
twenty twenty six, you know, if we don't stop listen.
I wrote the article. I haven't published it yet, but
I wrote an article about how much we have to
stop MAGA in twenty twenty six if we want to
save democracy. But I won't lift a finger to do
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anything to help a democrat, especially a democratic establishment, someone
from the establishment. I won't lift a finger if the
establishment shows us right now today that they are so
opposed to actual progress that they're going to align with MAGA.
Just like what our brother Jason was just talking about, Jackson.
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What Jackson was just talking about, talking about all of
those Democrats who voted against impeachment walking in lockstep with MAGA.
What's the point, Somebody tell me, what is the point
of trying to stop mag when the people we use
to stop MAGA end up doing Maga type stuff. I got.
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Have to forgive me. I'm I'm I'm in a new
season where I'm trying not to cuss the old. That's
the one part of the old Ben Dixon I'm trying
to leave at the on the table. I'm trying not
to bring trying to I don't want to bring that
Ben Dixon back. But my members might be listening, you know,
But if they're going to do the same type of
ish as Maga, how are we actually stopping Maga? If
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you if you think I'm being too hyperbolic, I maybe
I'm bearing the lead. Maybe I'm bearing the lead. Let
me play this clip. Let me play this clip of
Senator Kirsten Jillibrand and she is on the Brian Lurer Show.
Don't know how to pronounce my brother's last name. Forgive me, Brian,
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but I want you to listen to the rhetoric that
this democrat is using on another human being, let alone
another democrat. She sounds just like mag in this clip.
I want you to listen to what this democrat said
and tell me if you understand why I feel the
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way I when Jews were killed, to.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Wh Jews fought back against Nazis, it's quite despicable. I'm sorry, Hi,
good morning, Thank you for taking my call on question.
I wanted to ask two very pertinent questions about the
threat facing the Jewish community. Unfortunately, from Zora Mamdani, there
was a bill that I was reading about that. Unfortunately,
he wants to target synagogues and Jewish institutions which donate
to nonprofits, which are medical institutions like United Hatsala and
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Maganda Vote Da Vida Doom, which is like the Jewish
Red Cross. So how do we make sure that Jewish
institutions are protected from his plans to punish and find
our institutions which fundraise these medical nonprofits which do work
both here in the United States and in Israel and
other countries in the world. And also, how can we
hold mister Momdonnie accountable for his glorifying association of Hamas
and other terror bombings of the NTI fought in nineteen
ninety where over one thousand Jewish Is really were killed,
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to his revisionist Holocaust knowledge to the Warsaw get Uprising
where Jews were mass exterminated in face threats. He compared
when Jews were killed when Jew's walked back against Nazis.
It's quite despicable.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I'm sorry, okay, I want to pause it there before
the senator comes up and speak. I'm trying to find
this bill that he's talking about where Zoran is going
after Jewish institutions. Maybe somebody in the audience, maybe you
can help me, because I couldn't find it. And you know,
I'm a pretty good researcher. I usually could find anything,
but I dug into this and I can't find anything
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true about what he's saying. I have not been able
to find anywhere where Zoron glorified Hamas. Now I know
that one is untrue. I know that one's a lie.
But I wanted to pause to say, maybe you have
seen some kind of article where Zoron was attacking the
Jewish institutions, but I couldn't. So if you find it,
please drop it in the common section. But now here
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is the host, and the host is getting ready to
bring in Senator Gillibred.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Thank you for your call. There's a lot in there, Senator,
some of which may be inaccurate, so I don't know.
You know, I can't fact check everything in real time,
but do you know any of that to be inaccurate
or accurate, including the original premise that he would somehow
target synagogues if they were contributing to groups like Tuttela
Ambulance Services in a way that he could hurt the synagogues.
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I just don't want to give out information that's false,
but I also don't want to shrink from information that's true.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Well, the caller is exactly the New York constituents that
I've spoken to that are alarmed. They are alarmed by
past public statements. They are alarmed by past positions, particularly
references to global Ghot. This is a very serious issue
because people that glorify the slaughter of Jews create fear
in our communities. The Global in Devada is a statement
that means destroy and destroy Israel and kill all the Jews.
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So these are the kinds of things that if mister
mom Donnie is elected, our mayor will need to assure
all new workers that he will protect all Jews, and
protect houses of worship and protect fun day for not
for profits that meet the needs of these communities. Those
are the things he'll have to do as our mayor,
and she.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Would certainly say that he has committed to protecting all
Jews in New York. As mayor of New York, do
you just do you? Do you doubt that?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Well?
Speaker 5 (18:12):
I one of the issues I did talk to him
yesterday was exactly this issue, and he has agreed to
work with me on this and to protect all residents.
So this is something I care deeply about, and so
I will be an advocate on these issues. These are
things that I think are important to New Yorkers, and
I will work with him when he gets elected, if
he gets elected, to make sure everyone is protected. I also,
on the federal level, work to get resources for all
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our religious lights in the state and in the city.
I lead the letter for funding for.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
LEAD.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
I lead the letter for the funding to protect synagogues
and churches and temples and places.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
What about Moss? I'm sorry, I just had interrupt, Like churches,
thank you. As a Christian, I appreciate that, temples and synagogues,
I'm quite sure people the Jewish faith they appreciate that.
But what about Moss. Can we get protection for them?
Or are they just out the islamophobia? Folks? It's the islamophobia.
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And I appreciate Brian pushing back, but she doesn't stop.
She goes further listening to the.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Worship across our city and state. And these are things
that he has assured me in my one conversation that
he will protect everyone. But I understand why people are
concerned because of past statements, and so this is just
an issue that I will work with him on for sure.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I just feel compelled to say, we can find no
evidence that he has supported hamas or has supported violent jihad,
as that caller was asserting.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Can you.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Hm again, Brian, I don't have all the data information,
and I've never sat down with mister mom Donnie. So
I've asked to have that meeting. I'm going to have
that meeting. We will talk through all these things. He
can tell me his views of the world, and I
can learn them firsthand. I think the reference that I
had read was global Intofada specifically, which has very serious meetings.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, I think she has no idea what it actually
means global Intifada. But we're gonna look that up. We're
gonna we're gonna study that today. We're gonna dig into that.
But why if you don't have the evidence and you
don't know, Senator, then why on God's green Earth would
you go out there and promote something. Why are you
are you trying to pander to the Zionist Because if
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we're really gonna talk about threats, if we're really gonna
talk about threats, you cannot talk about threats and not
talk about the threat that Zionists polls to Palestinians. And
we have the actual data on that. We see how many,
how many guys and children have been slaughtered. We know
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exactly what's true about that. Yet I see you not
speaking about that. Instead, you're speaking about a fictitious imaginary,
a false flag, concocted, fear mongering campaign to undercut your
own candidate. What happened to Volte Blue? No matter who,
y'all forgive me, y'all forget See, I'm so easeful and
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zen now because the Lord has been so good to me,
and it's given me peace that passes all understanding. And
I meditate and I pray, you know, I fast, and
I'm doing all these things. But when I see devils,
when I see demented, evil machinations being done on our side,
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it's one thing. I expect this from MAGA, this is
their playbook. But when it's done on our side against
someone who all the man wants to do is help
the least of these. I think Christians should be standing
up for this brother, because he's the most Christian candidate
that I've seen in this country in a long time.
But let's keep listening to the good senator, y'all forgive
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me for Is it okay if I just got to
tap back in into the old ben for just a
few moments here.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
That are violent and destructive, which he says, and I
pressed him on this on the show on Monday, but
which he says are not calls for violence because into
fada is a much broader term involved in all kinds
of uprisings and resistance and things like that.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
So I just want to be clear about how, at
least he defines it, and maybe he needs to be
more clear. I don't mean this. I don't mean that
he did say here that he didn't want to be
the word police even as the mayor of New York
if he's elected. But I do also want to be
clear that he said he does not support violent into fada.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Is that fair?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
So, Brian, I didn't hear your exchange with him, but
if I was speaking to him directly, I would simply say,
that is not how the words are receiving. And it
doesn't matter what meaning you have in your brain, it
is not how the word is received. And when you
use a word like intofada to many Jewish Americans and
Jewish New Yorkers, that means you are permissive for violence
against Jews. It is a serious word. It is a
word that has deep meaning. It has been used for
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wars across time and violence Jews. It is a harmful, hurtful,
inappropriate word.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Oh you scandalss s galawag. Oh you intentionally obtuse cretan.
She works her blood up so that she can sound
like she has righteous indignation, but you define the word
that way. Actually, no, let me back up. If it
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is the case that there are Muslims around the world
who have to rise up against their oppressor, and their
oppressor happens to be a Jewish Zionist, then I'm sorry.
If you're scared of the word, I'm sorry. If revolution
is intimidating to those who are empower I'm sorry. If
liberation is intimidating to those who are in power, I'm sorry.
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If intifada is intimidating to colonizers, to settle a colonizers
to Aparthe So for anyone who is sitting in the
seat of the oppressor, anyone who's doing the odpressing, of
course you're going to be a raid of somebody standing up.
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And I'm sorry. If the word antifada has a broad spectrum,
I love, I love, I love discussing things based on
the gradient, based on the spectrum that goes from the
minimum to the maximum on the minimum side into Fada
means peaceful resistance, right it can. It can simply mean
resisting through fasting. It can mean resisting through silent protest,
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or it can mean resisting through nonviolent protest. But if
you find yourself in such a situation where you are
being slaughtered indiscriminately, like the people of Gaza, intifada most
certainly can call for self defense. And if that happens
to be violent, then maybe we need to examine why
people have to be violent to defend themselves against oppressors. Oh,
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but she's working her blood up. Now you know this
is a caring. Oh, the maga caring is coming out
of her, That white supremacist is coming out of her.
She has defined a word specifically in the context of
how it's most useful for her political agenda, which is
what to undermine Zoron. So, Kirsten, all the rest of
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the Democratic establishment, whatever you do to our good brother
in New York City, we are committee me personally, me
because I was a holdout. They are progressives who made
their mind up in twenty sixteen when they saw what
you did to Bernie Sanders. They're like, I'm done, I'm out.
I didn't. Though I supported, I voted, I held my
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nose and I voted for Hillary Clinton because I knew
the kind of threat that Donald Trump was. They're progressives
who never went back to the Democratic Party because of
what happened in twenty sixteen. But in twenty twenty, I
held my nose despite the fact that the Democratic establishment
once again undermine Bernie Sanders. Now I'm gonna be fair,
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which I tend to try to be. In twenty two
it was really just a brilliant political move right. I
was in South Carolina when it happened. I was covering it.
I was watching it in real time. When Congressman I
could see his face. James Clyburn. James Clyburn, along with Obama,
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along with some of the Clintons convinced Pete Boudhage Edge
and Amy Klobachar and the rest of the establishment Democrats
to drop out just before Super Tuesday so all of
their support could call less around Joe Biden. But they
kept Elizabeth Warren in so that she could continue to
split the progressive vote. And when they made that move,
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they got rid of Bernie Sanders in twenty twenty. Now,
I'm not as mad about that, because it really was like, dang,
we should have seen that coming. It was kind of
like it was a fair political move right, and a
lot of people saw it and they were upset about it,
and they decided they're never going to vote for the
Democratic Party again. But I stayed. I stayed why because
I knew the kind of threat that Donald Trump was
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and is to this country. Right, So I'm the holdout me,
Pastor Ben. I don't know about anybody else in the audience.
Some of you were smart enough to keep gaining right away,
God bless you, but I held out. Twenty twenty four,
I voted for Kamala Harris despite not having primaries. And
I'm telling you I do that again because I have
an intuitive thing. I just I trust the wisdom of
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black women. So I was gonna vote for Kamlala Harris
no matter what. So maybe I was, you know, maybe
I wasn't in good faith. Then I don't know, but
I tell you what I stood by, And I opposed
MAGA in twenty sixteen, in twenty twenty and in twenty
twenty four. So you can't tell me nothing. But if
I see the Democratic Party due to Zoran, what they
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did to India Walton, a black woman in Buffalo, yeah,
I'm gonna use whatever little political capital whatever. I don't
care how small my platform is. I don't care if
all I have is a podcast and a blog and
a Twitter account. Just ask Michael Bloomberg what I can
do with a podcast and a blog and a Twitter account.
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Listen to this, Listen to this incredulous creten.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
For anyone who wants to represent a city as diverse
as New York City with eight million people. And I
would be very specific in these words, and I would say,
you may not use them again if you expect to
represent everyone ever again, because they are received as hateful
and divisive and harmful.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
And that's it.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
So I appreciate that he told you he didn't mean not,
and that's great.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Also clarifyer. He was clarifying that he never said globalized
the antifader. He was asked in an interview if he
would denounce the phrase globalize the antifada, and then that
led to this kind of conversation. You know that you
were just referring to but that he was never out
there saying globalized the indifighter. He was asked about other
people who used it, So just just to be precise
about about what happened there.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Yes, well, as a leader of the city of diverses,
New York City with eight million people, as the largest
Jewish population in the country, we should denounce it. And
that's it, period. And you can't celebrate it, you can't
value it, you can't lift it up. And that is
what That is the challenge that Jewish New Yorkers have had,
certainly since October sixth, it is assuming October seventh. It
is exactly what they have felt. It is why Jewish
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students in our universities have felt unsafe. It is why
Jewish students have felt that their schools did not have
their backs and cared about them or their learning. Because
the people doing these protests use words that have meanings
that are far more violent and horrific than they may
have intended. But when you hear things like intafada, when
you hear things like jihad, when you hear from the
river to the sea, it is received as slaughtered the
Jews and destroy is real, period. It's how it's received.
And if you talk to any group, you talk to
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our LGBTQ community, you talk to our black community, you
took talk.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
I don't don't you dare fix your skinny, narrow lips
to speak on behalf of the black community, Kirsten. Don't
you dare do that, you devious devil. You speak for
the democratic establishment and you speak for Zionism. How much
money is she take? Let's look that up real quick.
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How much money? Mm hmm. And you know who I
can find If somebody in the audience can find that
faster than I can go find out. How much money
Kirsten Gillibrand took from from a pack. That's what we
need to know, because that's who she speaks for. You
don't speak for black folks. I tell you that much.
Black youth we're the biggest demographic for Zoran. So don't
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even fix your little narrow behind the scene.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
In the community, there are words and there are imagery,
and there are things that are said that they will
hear it and feel it as a stagger to their throat.
And so if you want to be a leader, you
have to recognize how these things are felt and received
and say there should be no work police. It's irresponsible
because of the leader you have to protect. You have
to protect everyone, period.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
One more thing before you go for you as a member.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Of Now, that's it. Glad to cut it off. I
couldn't take it anymore. It's running my blood pressure up.
I've been doing good. I've been zen. I have been
so peaceful, I have been so light, like man, y'all
on this then, like the last couple of years. The
reason I've been off the scene is because I just
had to find myself and had a center myself despite
all of the evil that was going on around us.
I had to be able to anchor myself into something
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something that would give me peace that passes all understanding,
as the Bible says. But you know, it wasn't an
anchor for me to remain at rest. If I could
say that, sometimes you do have to take rest. I
had to take a rest because you know, by the
time we were done with the George Floyd protest, and
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by the time the jig was up and we saw
that these devils had no intention in engaging in good
faith with us, no matter how much we organized, we
found out that they would undermine our efforts all the way.
And I'm talking about Democrats as well as MAGA. At
the end of that, I really and when I saw,
when I saw what was happening with the pandemic, and
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how they had just left us to ourselves, and not
only left us to ourselves, but really made the conditions
such that we had no choice but to go out
back into the pandemic. And we saw one point five
million people die and nobody batter than I. And then
the economy just kept on going alone as it was
grinding us to a pulp. When when I saw all
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of that, I kind of I kind of lost my
my zin, I lost my chill, I lost my ability
to do these politics without like throwing something, you know,
without breaking something. And so I had to take a
step back, and I had to center myself, and I
had to ground myself in something deeper, in something that
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could hold me. But the the catch here, though, folks,
is you can't rest forever. You can't you can't be
on a break forever. You can't you can't sleep forever.
Eventually you got to get back up and fight once
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more into the breach differends once more. And so now
I've found the way to unleash all of the righteous
indignation at full throttle, full force, because they deserve it.
If anybody deserves global into fada, wouldn't it be fascist?
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In considering that we are underneath a global fascistic regime
that is more interested in quarterly profit margins than it
is the well being of humans? Do we not have
the righteous cause? Is there not a cause for us
to rise up? If you look up into Fada on
whatever platform you want to use, y'all know, I like AI.
(33:41):
But I did a quick comparison and contrasting of Intifada
in all of its forms, and then I asked it to,
you know, juxtapose it to Christian Christianity, and it is.
It is the same concept philosophically, structurally, theologically, it is
the same concept as a just war, just war theory,
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waging war for justice. Now, this does not mean that
there have been people who have used it and twisted
it and done evil with it, Because for the love
of God, have we not seen Christianity be used for
evil all across the globe. So yes, both Christianity and
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Islam can and have been used to do harmful, horrible
to horrific things. But to use that against this man,
and to use it in such a bad faith way
where even this I mean the hosts. I don't know
a lot about the host but I can kind of
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guesstimate that the fact that that senator was going on
his show, that he's not like, you know, uber progressive.
You know, I'm not gonna call him milk toast. I
appreciate the fact that he was willing to hold the
line on facts, But even as he was very gently
and respectfully pushing back with facts, she decided to cut
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on her carriing. I just it's the word of self,
the word of self working up her blood so that
she can have a platform, a footing to stand on
when she has nothing to stand on. Listen, Democrats, I
just want to make it clear I will be your
worst enemy. I don't have much of a platform anymore.
I've lost you know, a good significant amount of my following,
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and you know, my Twitter account is one of the
most suppressed accounts on the entirety of the Internet, right,
you know, So it's an uphill battle for me to
have impact. And that's okay, But you know what, Oh,
I'm one the hell of a person to have on
your bad side. And if Democrats do what they're shaping
themselves up to do, the zor run, I tell you
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it's gonna You know, it's a thin line between love
and hate, and I ain't never loved you. It is
a thin line between and I have never loved the
Democratic Party. I've only voted with them because I knew
and I still know the threat that Donald Trump and
MAGA poses, which is why we're gonna assure mutually assured
destruction here, folks. Why not give this nation over to
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fascists in twenty twenty six? If voting for Democrats is
just gonna be a slower version of getting there, and
if Democrats align with MAGA to get rid of Zoron,
then we might as well just make sure it all
falls down in twenty twenty six. Ef around to find out.
I called it bo I caught myself. I almost said it, Bozy,
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but I called myself. Listen to this brother, Listen to
what he is facing with these devils. And these aren't
all maga. It's a lot of maga, a lot of them, yes,
but not all of the maga is doing what he's
talking about here. Take a listen in.
Speaker 7 (36:57):
It pains me to be painted as if I am
somehow in opposition to the very Jewish New Yorkers that
I know and love and that are such a key
part of the city. To your question of why not
a more visceral reaction. Part of it has been colored
by the fact that when I speak, especially when I
speak with emotion, I am then characterized by those same
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rivals as being a monster. I get messages that say
the only good Muslim is a dead Muslim. I get
threats on my life, on the on the people that
I love.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Mhm ah, I discover we don't we don't need that
commercial I am. I'm gonna tell you the truth, folks.
I've got a I've got a serious, serious, serious, serious
problem with evil. You have to forgive the religious jargon.
(37:58):
I was talking with Kyle Kolinsky, who, by the way,
I got a chance to and he thank you. I
want to thank him and Crystal for letting me one
come on, and two letting me talk about this space.
This space, specifically this space where you're watching me now,
And if you're listening to the podcast version of this,
I need you to go over to YouTube and subscribe
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to this space. Go to this space dot tv and subscribe.
I was talking with Kyle Kolensky Secular Talk and actually
I think it's the Kyle and Crystal Show. And Kyle
was like, listen, Ben, you know you know I'm an atheist,
and I'm like, yeah, man, I've been following your work
for years. And he said, and I normally don't use
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this kind of language, but he said, but it's at
the point where I have to just identify this for
what it is. It's evil. And then he said something
that I heard. I heard only in one other place,
which was a television show. And when I heard it
on the television show, it was so profound it just struck.
I wrote it down and I've been trying to say
it anytime I get an opportunity to say it. But
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their Kyle was on the show and he said this.
He said, evil is organizing and it is the most
organized out of everybody. And he said, good is catching up.
I said, yeah, that's that's the diagnosis. Evil is organizing.
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Here's the thing that holdouts like me again, I'm gonna
I'm the holdout because there have been plenty of progressives
who have said enough, you shall not pounce. You know
the enough was from? If somebody could, oh, if somebody
can tell where I pulled enough from, then you are
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truly a person after my own heart. But I'll tell
you it's from Mortal Kombat, the movie rating enough. Like
there have been, there have been progressives. They walked away
the first time. And it reminds me of what Maya
Angelo said, if a person shows you who they are,
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believe them, believe them. But because in good faith I
understood and understand the threat that Donald Trump posed and poses,
I consistently held my nose and voted for the establishment characters.
But then in twenty twenty one, when I saw what
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they did to my dear sister, h let me tell you.
Let me bring up this sister picture again, because what
they did to her, oh, man made me. That's another
reason I had to step down and take a little break.
Because when I saw what they did to India Walton
in Buffalo, New York. I'm gonna tell you, I just
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I kind of I lost it a little bit because
it just showed me and reminded me exactly how malevolent
and how bad faith these people are. You know, it's
not enough they even democrats. Power corrupts, absolute, power corrupts. Absolutely.
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They refuse to take their loss and go home. You know,
that's that's that is the handshake agreement of democracy. When
you lose, you go home. You don't have to come
out and be the biggest supporter for that, you know,
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all that fake stuff that a lot of them do,
But you don't go behind and around and circumvent the
will of the people in order to maintain power. And
that's exactly what they did to our dear sister. I'm
highlighting her. I'm moving the mouse over her. India India Walton,
India Walton, twenty twenty one. What do they do, Governor
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cat the hochel this person right here on your screen.
She refused to endorse India in twenty twenty one, and
today she has refused so far to endorse Zoran. In
twenty twenty one. Byron Byron not Byron Donalds. Byron Brown,
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the mayor of the Mayor of Buffalo. Even though he
was a Democrat and he lost his primary to India,
he ran as an independent and got voters in support
and funding from Republicans. What is Eric Adams doing getting
support from Republicans running as an independent? The Democratic establishment
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did nothing to stop him? In twenty twenty one Byron Brown,
and we're gonna see, we gonna see, we gonna see
what y'all do here in twenty twenty five Democrats, and
we will. I will let me say a because again,
progressives have made the decision a long time ago, and
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maybe I'm admitting they were right and I was wrong
because what I see shaping up right now, I'm telling
you I would never vote for a Democrat again. I
don't care if Satan himself is on the Republican ticket ticket,
because all y'all are just to his little imps. What's
what's the difference, what's the what's the reason, what's the why?
(43:22):
Why should I vote for a party who will as
soon as they lose an inkling of power aligned with Nazis,
with Maga. The very people you're telling us are fascists
and they want to destroy democracy. Yeah, I know they do,
which is why I voted blue no matter who. But
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now it's your term to vote blue no matter who.
And you all are talking about running running the sexual
predator allegedly. I'm only saying allegedly so we don't get
sued on this space. Andrew Cuomo and the man who
was under investigation and decided to abandon the Democratic Party
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so that he could get DJ protection from Donald Trump,
Eric Adams. So I think my time, No, I still
got fifteen minutes. Look at that, and I still got time.
I think I better let this one go. I don't
let this one go. I'm gonna I'm not gonna blow
a gasket. I can't say that because I've got too
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too much control. I do know what I want to
talk about. The second thing I want to talk about
before we before I only have fifteen minutes left. I
want to talk about something that I need each and
every one of you to do in this space. Right.
This is what I need you all to do, and
please come with me. I know it's an emotional roller coaster.
A lot of people when they used to listen to
my old podcast, they're like Ben, it's just so intense
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and it's just it's it's up here, and then it's
angry all the time. That because there's a lot of
stuff to be angry for. It's a lot of stuff
to be angry about. But over the last four years
of my hiatus, I have learned the value of being
able to breathe and.
Speaker 5 (45:10):
Let it go.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
I need us as a family this space, this space,
specifically the fifty, the fifty people with forty seven. Now,
what do y'all three? Where did the three of y'all go?
What we just drop from fifty to forty seven? What
are we doing here? I need the forty seven people
who are watching this now to help me do something,
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and I want to do it in honor of the
minniapp the Minnesota couple that was killed, Melissa Hortman and
her husband Brian. As matter of fact, I want to
just bring up the tweet because it'll be easier for
me to to just give you the directions based on that.
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I it's something that we need to do, almost like
a ritual, like a sacred ritual, we need to hold.
Let me steal the phrase. The phrase I'm stealing is
from the Constitution of the Declaration of Independence. We hold
these truths. We hold these truths, and I want to
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challenge us as a family to actively remember. And you
can choose whatever you want to remember, right I can't
tell you what truth you want to hold, but as
a matter of ritual, I think that we need to
every single day on social media state whatever truth you
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are holding. The truth that I am going to do
my best to hold myself to and to hold every
day is going to be the truth about what happened
to Melissa Hortman and her husband Brian, That they were
targeted and they were killed by a Donald Trump supporter,
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a man from MAGA. Here it is on your screen now.
Twelve days ago, Minnesota state Representative Melissa Hortman and her
husband Mark were killed by a Donald Trump supporting MAGA Christian.
That's exactly what he was, That's exactly who he is.
I don't care Paul's I'm not reading from the tweet
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right now. I'm just talking for those of you who
are listening. I don't care that he is trying to
implicate Tim Walls. The evil machinations of MAGA include the
willingness to lie about everything. How what else would what
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would be the icing on the cake of this monster's victory,
Because ultimately what he did was she was the tiebreaker
in the state Assembly there and by killing her, they
are now at an evenly divided chamber and so the
government has been frozen and they can't make any progress
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until a special election. So even though he's in jail,
his goal, his agenda was victorious. Now what is the
icing on the cake there? The icing on the cake
is to be able to implicate Tim Walls and not
to actually implicate him, because of course there's no evidence,
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there's zero evidence that everybody peeps game. But what does
that do? It gives social media the fodder that they
need to prevent us from one grieving as a community,
as a nation, and to prevent us from being able
to point very directly to the threat that we are
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facing as Americans from MAGA. MAGA is running their own
version of a And I don't even want to I
don't even want to sully the holiness of the true
meaning and the written chornic meaning of jihad. Right. I
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know that it's been as a term that's been used
in bastardized and very and use for violence, but If
you read the Quran and you understand the true context
of jihad, you will understand why I wouldn't even apply
that to what MAGA is doing. They're on an unholy crusade,
and I don't even have to put that modifier there.
The crusades were unholy to begin with. So MAGA is
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on their own crusade and they're willing to kill, they're
willing to lie, and they're using social media and they're
waging an information war against us where most of us
can't even get our equilibrium, we can't hold our balance
because why because they lie so quickly, They lies with
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so repetition. They lie about anything, They lie about everything,
whatever is necessary to keep them in power and keep
moving their goals towards the destruction of democracy and political
violence they are willing to do. And I believe the
antidote to that. I believe the antidote to that is
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every single one of us, on a daily basis to
state on our social media platform, what truth are we holding.
Here's the truth that I'm holding that. Twelve days ago,
Minnesota State Rep. Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark were
killed by a Donald Trump supporting MAGA Christian. Since then,
MAGA has blamed the victims and the other targets. They
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didn't give the nation a chance to mourn. They chewed
up the very idea of grief and sped it back
into our faces. I'm going to tweet about Melissa and
Mark every day so that we don't forget them nor
the depth of the evil that we are up against.
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We hold these truths now, I probably do a hashtag.
I didn't have the hashtag when I did this this
morning at six forty four am. It was just heavy
on my heart because you see these monsters, these very
real they're humans, right. I'm not trying to, you know,
create a myth around them. They're very human, They're very real,
but they're operating with the level of structural spiritual wickedness
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in high places. I'm not going to preach to you,
but I just got to reveal to you what's really
going on. When I say spiritual wickedness, I am not
talking about boogeymen. I'm not talking about you know, ghosts.
I'm not talking about a red man and horns and
a pitchfork girl. No, I'm talking about methodologies, machinations, agendas,
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protocols where they have inverted every possible truth that matters.
They'll look at you and say climate change isn't real,
despite we all are feeling the impact of it already.
They will look at you and say that this shooter
in Minnesota was hired by Tim Wallas. When they know
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that to be alive. They will look at you and
say Donald Trump one in twenty twenty. They will look
at you and say anything that they have to say
to get their agenda across. And if we can't hold
the line with some fundamental truths every day, we gotta
do it like a ritual. We gotta do it just
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out of a sacred pattern every day to remind yourself
and to remind the internet. And I don't know what
your truth is, but I hope that it would be
a truth that falls in line with the dilemma that
we're facing broadly. But if you have a personal truth
that you need to just state every day, maybe you
need to about yourself that you are loved, because people
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are constantly telling you you're not loved. We hold these truths.
Maybe you need to speak the truth that your identity
is exactly what it should be. What you have identified
yourself as the pronouns that you have chosen the gender
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that you have transitioned to the person that you love.
No matter what gender they are, you are fearfully and
wonderfully made, and God still loves you. Maybe you don't
want to put the God part, maybe you don't believe
in God. But I'm just here to tell you if
that's the truth that you need to assert hashtag. We
hold these truths and I refuse. I'm telling you, I
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am not gonna die letting these devils read define truth.
The sky is blue and the grass is green, even
though we live in an upside down world where they
will tell you that the sky is green and the
grass is blue if that's what suits them. They will
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tell you that this man who killed State Rep. Melissa
Hortman and her husband Mark forgive me, I think I
called him Brian several times. Forgive me for miss for
misremembering his name. Mark is her husband. That's the truth
I'm gonna hold because how else do we how else
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do we fight back against the speed of the algorithm,
I mean the speed of the news cycle. Many people
have already forgotten that these two people were assassinated because
of this man's commitment talk about talk about the threat
of jihad. This man was in pullpitch, preaching and trying
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to conjure up some kind of spirituality, you know, trying
to get some emotionalogy to make it seem like he
actually had the Holy Spirit on him. So you know,
he did what he did praying first. Now I can
tell you his prayers weren't going to God in heaven.
His prayers were going right to his mag of mind.
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But he used Christianity as the driving force for him
to go out and assassinate his political rivals. Kirsten Gillibrand. Gillibrand,
and you want to talk about jeeha when we have
a movement that is the height of insidiousness, the height
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of spiritual wickedness in high places. And again when I
say spiritual wickedness in high places, I am not talking
about mysticism. I'm talking about highly coordinated with the precision
of the algorithm executed intentionality, to invert every truth, to
undermine every foundational bedrock of belief and co comen bonds
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that keep civilization going. They sit back with the precision
of their demented and evil calculus, and every story that
comes across the timeline they'll invert it. They'll find a
way to lie about it, and then they spread it
all across the country, and then they'll spread it all
across the globe. So when I say spiritual wickedness and
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hyeh places, I'm talking about the stuff that moves with
the precision of the algorithm. How else do we beat that,
my friends, except for we hold the line methodically every day.
We hold these truths. Every day. We hold these truths
every day. Tomorrow, thirteen days ago, Minnesota State Representative Melissa
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Hortman and her husband Mark. I'm gonna hold that truth
as long as I can, and I invite you to
join me in it. If you tag me and whatever
truth that you're holding, I'm going to retweet it every
every day. I don't care if it's three hundred of
you right now it's fifty one of you. If fifty
one of you tweet out the truth that you're holding,
you use a hashtag we hold these truths, or you
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tag me in it, I am going to share that truth.
And we need to pause, and we need to reflect,
and we need to rest. We need to catch our breath,
We need to breathe in the fact that we are
holding the line for truth in the middle of the
most wicked and insidious period in American history. Not that
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we haven't done evil things as a nation before, but
the purity that the pure malevolence of their actions and
their functions and their methodologies now to completely obliterate the
entire possibility of us understanding and agreeing upon truth. I
don't believe we've seen anything like this, and I think
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the only way for us to fight back is to
methodically hold these truths every day. And here's my last truth.
I'm excited to pass the mic as we get ready
to go to the next hour to my good friend
ag the Angry Ginger, because I know one thing that
brother holds the same truths, and I'm so glad. I
don't care, y'all if I had to say anything at
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the last minute. I don't care what you believe, what
you don't believe. I don't care who you love. I
don't None of that matters. All that matters is will
you hold to the truth? Will you change your mind
when you're presented with new evidence? Will you look at
the science and if the science is saying X Y
and Z, you will say okay, x Y and z
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it is. Are are you going to refuse to oppress anyone?
Are you going to stand on the side of the oppressed,
no matter where we find them. That's the kind of
guy that's coming up behind me, Ag, The floor is yours.
I'll see you all next time.