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(00:40):
Let's pick up the conversation right where Andrea left off
in the last hour. What do we do with all
of the people who are two things number one that
are currently still stuck in maga despite the very obvious
and ridiculous just manner in which Donald Trump has said,

(01:03):
you know what, forget about my entire coalition. Right this
is where we are this week. He has said, forget
about my entire coalition. What is most important to me
is for me to preserve the people who are on
the pedophile list. I'm trying to be careful with the
P word only because we know without a shadow of

(01:25):
a doubt that that is going to trigger the algorithm
anytime we talk about this issue. For I mean, I
don't know about any other YouTubers, but whenever I talk
about the Epstein issue, it absolutely destroys, absolutely destroys the reach.
But that's neither here nor there. For those of you
that are here. The question that I am picking up

(01:45):
right after Andrea Rovinski is what do we do twofold
number one? The people who are still stuck in this cult,
and then to how do we approach those people who
have been set free. I've been saying it like this,
and Andrea, Andrea speaking of cult. Pastor Benn is up next.

(02:06):
I'm gonna I'm probably gonna laugh about that for a
while and say for a while, but speaking of cults,
I actually have never seen anything like this, folks. I've
I've been doing politics for a long time. I've been
alive for a long time. I have never seen this
is how I'll say it in church speak, in religious speak,

(02:27):
I've never seen a demon exercise itself. I've never seen
a demon exercise itself. What I mean, I've never I mean,
you don't watch The Exorcists and the demon that's in
the little girl decides Yeah, I've had it. I'm gonna
kick myself out right. You you you've never seen that happen.

(02:50):
But here we are. Donald Trump is effectively kicking himself
out of the American lexicon, out of the American society,
out of I mean, out of the control that he
had and has still over I mean, let's let's let's
be sure he still has a significant amount of control

(03:10):
over MAGA. And I've never seen someone with this much
power throw it away. And who is he throwing it
away for? He's throwing it away for the people on
the Epstein list, which brings us to and I feel

(03:30):
like I'm on the loop, Like I guess maybe I've
done so many interviews this week are I feel like
maybe I did we talk about this last week because
I know it really jumped off over the weekend was
when it really really jumped off. But I only really
see three possibilities here. There's only three possibilities to explain
what's going on with Donald Trump. It's number one, he's
on the list now. I don't think anyone would be

(03:52):
surprised if he is on the list. Number two, maybe
he's not on the list, but he's deeply compromised on
something else that is worthwhile him destroying his entire power base.
He is destroying the entirety of the power structure that
got him where he is right now. And then to assume, actually,

(04:17):
let me give you the third one before I go
to the next part, because this newest thing that just
came out yesterday is kind of he's really beside himself.
But number three he just doesn't care. Now, this one
is the most far fetched because I don't see him
not caring about the power that he could wield, right,

(04:42):
but perhaps the power is in him not revealing it.
So number one he's either on the list. Number two
he's compromised by something else, or number three he doesn't
care enough about the list to miss the opportunity that's
in front of him by preserving the list. Now that
requires something else to be on the table, some type

(05:03):
of offers. Right, So, but it's a possibility. All of
those possibilities make more sense than what we're seeing right now.
Right the claims that oh it isn't real, Oh it's
a hoax. It's a Russia, Russia, Russia hoax. And here's
the thing, why wouldn't Donald Trump expect for his followers

(05:25):
to just go along with him. Now, I have to
go here first before I go into being kind to MAGA,
because I do have some kind words for them today,
Believe it or not. But I got to start where
I've got to start where it's realistic. Why on earth

(05:47):
would Donald Trump believe that he couldn't get away with this?
He's gotten away with everything else, right, hasn't he. He's
gotten away with every other lie, hasn't he? They believe
every other thing that he's said, no matter how ridiculous,
no matter how absurd, no matter how just offensive on
the face it is, no matter what, He's been able

(06:08):
to get away with it. So why would he not
expect that he couldn't get away with it? Right now?
The fact of the matter is is he cannot get
away with it. It has been pretty pretty bad. I
want to show you how bad it is. I want
to share this video. This is in Smith Senior in
Smith Fitness. Don't really know who he is. I just
want to give him credit before I play his video.

(06:30):
This is what he had to say about and to
Donald Trump. And this is after Donald Trump told everybody,
which is amazing to me, just absolutely amazing to me
that Donald Trump would say this. He said, if you're
still going after the Epstein files, you're not a supporter
of his. And you know what, the people are saying, Okay,

(06:50):
that's fine, we don't support you. Here's one guy saying it,
and I'm sure I didn't edit it. So here we go.
Let's listen. They gave you their votes.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
To nobody's surprise, Donald Trump is now tripling down on
his denial and refusal to address the Epstein files properly. Bro, Bro,
you didn't just casually mention Epstein. You campaigned on it. You,
your sons, your allies, the entire GOP.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Wouldn't shut the fuck up about it.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
You banged Epstein's name like a wardrobe. You built a
hell of a lot of political capital on it.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
We're going to expose the pedophiles. We're gonna drain the swamp.
We're gonna bring the elites to justice. We're gonna expose
the list all the Democrats.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
People believe you. They rallied behind you. They gave you
their votes, their trust, their money, and their hope. But
now all you do is continue to bullshit and lie.
You underestimated significantly how much people care about the truth
of this subject. You thought that you could slide this
one by and memory hold it. But it's been six

(07:58):
months you've been in office, and now the heat is on.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
So what do you do? Scream it's a hoax, it's
a Democrat hoax.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
And then when people don't like that answer, as they shouldn't,
you call your own base weaklings, and you call them
past supporters, and then you say that you don't even
want their support. You even had to make a call
to the right wing influencers to stay silent on it
because people won't shut up. You don't even pretend like

(08:29):
you fight for the base anymore. Epstein is dead, allegedly
just laying Maxwell is in prison.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Victims are real, and the evidence has been public.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
This stuff was released before covid, on Gawker and all
over the internet.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Say isn't a hoax?

Speaker 3 (08:44):
This is one thing that everybody on the left and
the right agrees on.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
That's right, Well, not everybody there are about Oh I
don't know, man, there's about a few thousand maga. There's
about a few thousand Maga who are still standing by
their man. But I have to now let me, let
me just come full circle to maga. Ben because because honestly,

(09:07):
I can't. I can't help but to be grateful. And
I know Andrea is somewhere, Andrea Ravinsky somewhere saying, ah,
that pastor, he's letting the better nature of me get
a hold of me. I can't help listen. I never
thought that there would be I never thought that I
would say this about Maga within the first year of

(09:33):
him being elected the second term. But I have to
admit that I am extremely pleasantly surprised and grateful that
they drew the line somewhere. I know, I know the
bar is low, the bar is in hell, but when

(09:56):
you consider the fact that we actually might be living
in a recursive hell here earth anyway, I'm sorry. That's
a different show, that's a different stream. It's something, it's
a starting point. It's at least, like you know, I
feel like they miss so many other opportunities to just
do the basic decent human thing. I felt like when

(10:20):
they threw their children out into the pandemic unvaccinated and
pretended like it wasn't real, and they just let their
children and themselves. But particularly I'm thinking about their children
getting reinfected over and over and over and over again like, Eh,
that's no big deal. I felt at that point, well,
if they'll do that to their children, they'll do anything
to their children. You know. That's when my existential crisis

(10:42):
came upon me back in twenty twenty one, when I realized,
holy cow, these people don't even care about their own children. Well, okay,
some of them do. Still, some of them care enough
about their children to know that what Donald Trump is
doing here is something that they cannot go along with.

(11:05):
So I have to acknowledge that I have to breathe
and tip my hat to them and say, you know what,
this is something that the left and the right can
agree on. This is something to me that's worth burning
down the entire system. People are using the excuse saying, well, well,
maybe there's something on there that could disrupt the entire system. Okay,

(11:28):
then it needs to be disrupted, because if there's so
much power, concentrate it on. And I wish I could
get a better clip. I want to play a clip
of someone on the state on the Senate floor who
was making the case. And actually, I think I should
pull that up next. Before Donald Trump, there was somebody
on the Senate floor who was making the case of
how many transactions were wired directly into Jeffrey Epstein's one

(11:57):
bank account, not two bank accounts, over four thousand, over
four thousand transactions that total up to about over one
billion dollars. Let me share that instead. Listen to this
real quick.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Four thousand, seven hundred and twenty five wire transfers. Let
me repeat that, four thousand, seven hundred and twenty five
wire transfers, adding up to nearly one point one billion
dollars flowing in and out of just one of mister
Epstein's bank accounts.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Four thousand dollars, four thousand transactions, over one billion dollars.
That's over two hundred thousand dollars per transaction. Okay, so
you can get the scope of it. Let's say there
was one person who went multiple times, So that's not
necessarily four thousand individuals, right, but that's a lot of people,

(12:57):
and that's a lot of money. That means you have
extreme like your disposable income is such that you could
spend over two hundred thousand dollars trafficking in children. Right.
So when when I when I say this is something
that's worth bringing the system down, I definitely I mean

(13:18):
that because if you have that many powerful and rich
people who are able to get away with the predation
of our children, child predation, and this system is going
to protect them, then what are we even doing here?
I'm gonna use a bad analogy that I think many people.
If you've seen the movie, you might disagree with me

(13:38):
on but no, I don't think you would disagree with me.
The movie snow Piercer, not the television show, but the
movie snow Piercer. When it was revealed that the entire
train that was riding through the you know, frozen wasteland
of a post apocalyptic society where the poorest people were
in the back eating nothing but recycle bugs and turn

(14:00):
into a gelatinous substance for food. And then in the
very front, you know, you go through all the hierarchies
of society, and then you get to the very front
of the train. You get to the people who are
running the train and you realize, wow, the train is
running off of child labor and the and and the

(14:23):
individual was like the guy captain America. What's his name,
the guy who's the star of it anyway, I can't
think of his name, but he was like, well, I
guess we're gonna have to derail this whole train.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
And he did.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
You know, once you get to the core functioning ethos
of a society and you see that that fundamental governing
ethos of that society is the predation of children. Now,
in the movie case, you know, they derailed the entire

(14:58):
system and they were out into the oblivion of waste
of the wasteland, and I was like, I don't know,
maybe if they worked out something with the children and
held them in the highest esteem and gave them the
best life that they could, and you know, maybe they
could have fixed civilization. Because they were headed out into
the wasteland, everybody died except for them. That means that's
the end of civilization altogether. So I was wrestling with that.

(15:20):
But when we're talking about reality being such that they
are praying old children for their entertainment pleasure and they
can afford to spend two hundred grand roughly per child
or per encounter, per trip to his island, and there's
over four thousand of them, that's not a system that's

(15:44):
worth preserving. We could do fine without them. In fact,
letting them stay, letting this system stay is obviously the
pathway to get us to a destroyed, a post apocalyptic world,
mind you, Because think about this. If you can be
as evil as someone who prays on children, and as

(16:05):
evil as a system that protects them, what else is
I mean, what else is too hard for them? What
else would they not do? Would they not start a
war just because? Will they not engage in a genocide
just because? What's going to stop a person who sits
around and prays on little children from having the conscience
necessary to not engage in genocide, to not start a pestilence,

(16:31):
to not sit back and watch millions and billions of
people die. Let's listen to Donald Trump as he basically said,
I don't I don't like you losers anymore. He really,
he was like, I don't like you. You are my
supporter anymore.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
I'd rather talk about this.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
I know you want to lose past all this intrigue
over the Epstein files, but I do want to ask
you to clarify something you said this morning. You said
this was all a hoax. Has your attorney generator told
you this was a hoax?

Speaker 1 (16:58):
What evidence the attorney general?

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I know it's a hoax.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
It's started by Democrats, It's been run by the Democrats
for four years. You had Christopher Ray and these characters
and call me before him, and it's a bad group.
It started to actually look at the Steele Darsier that
turned out to be a total hoax. The fifty one agents,
the intelligence so called intelligence agents, it was a hoax.

(17:22):
It's all been a big hoax. It's perpetrated by the Democrats,
and some stupid Republicans and foolish Republicans fall into the net,
and so they try and do the Democrats work. The
Democrats are good for nothing other than these oases. They're
bad for policy, they're bad for picking candidates they can
get elected. Like in New York we have a communist running.

(17:46):
He may get elected too, actually, but he's going to
destroy the city. No, no, I call it the Epstein hoaks.
Takes a lot of time and effort. Instead of talking
about the great achievements. We've had a great gentleman yesterday,
as you know, when on CNBC and he made the
statement that Trump may go down as the greatest president
of all in the United States. And instead of talking

(18:08):
about the things we've achieved, We've had tremendous achievement, they're
wasting their time with a guy who obviously had some
very serious problems, who died three four years ago. I'd
rather talk about the successful with the economy, the best
we've ever had, and all of the things we've done,
including in the Middle East. I mean, you see it.

(18:31):
Instead they want to talk about the Epstein hooks. And
the sad part is it's people that are really doing
the Democrats work. They're stupid people.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
I haven't heard the last two seconds of it. He
literally call them stupid. Oh I've never seen a demon
exercise itself. But strange times are we living in? We
are living in strange times, are we not? I mean,
this is like the This is like the young girl

(19:07):
on the Exorcist, tied and straight into the bed like
this canceling, just rebuking her own self, just throwing holy
water on it. Donald Trump has found the issue that
will make and has made millions of maga because he's
only supported on this matter by three percent of the nation.

(19:30):
Only three percent of the nation support Donald Trump in
this matter. He has found the issue that is going
to get him out of I mean, not necessarily power,
because actually I think he's pretty sick from what the
reports are saying. And he might he might not live.
I don't know the severity of this sickness he has.

(19:52):
I didn't even look up the severity, but it had
his ankle swollen like potatoes. And then that presents another
problem because if Donald Trump is no longer there, then
we get them far more efficient, far more proficient of
a liar. I mean, I mean jd Vance is a

(20:13):
way better liar than Donald Trump, and we would get
Donald jd Vance to finish out these next four years.
But the good thing about it is that it doesn't
really matter what happens at this point. You know, Donald
Trump has inadvertently like he didn't think it would happen, right,
I know he did. He's doing what he's doing on purpose,

(20:35):
that's clear. But I don't think he believed that he
was going to create this type of wedge. And it's
not just the wedge. It's an awakening. It is. It
is an awakening. That's the thing that he does not.
He can't believe. He can't believe that it's look at me,

(20:55):
trying to look at me, trying to thank you, Nick.
It's an awakening. There is a fracture, a right, not
a fracture a rupture. There is a rupture in the
thinking of MAGA because right now they're having to deal
with this two things one this man three things. One

(21:17):
this man has absolutely no respect for them. And what
do I mean by that? It's obvious just on the
surface level, but he has no respect for them because one,
he campaigned on this, and then now he's saying, look
the other way. Now he's calling them stupid, Now he's
insulting them. All of the arrogance that they liked about
him has now turned around internally and it's directed directly

(21:42):
at them. I shouldn't have started. I shouldn't said how
many things because now I can't remember the last one.
But the second thing is the other rupture is this
they're thinking to themselves, Wow, if he's lying to us
about this, what else is he lying to us about?

(22:04):
You have to be thinking that, MAGA. You have to
If Donald Trump lied to you about this, what else
is he lying to you about? And the last thing
that I think is a part of this rupture that's
happening in MAGA is a permanent scarring. This contingency in

(22:27):
the United States of America is never again going to
trust anybody at that caliber. Of what's the word demagogay
culture personality. No, that's not happening. Even if jd Vance
gets into power, he is not going to be supported

(22:50):
in the same fashion. It's impossible. He Look, he was
never going to be supported the way Donald Trump is
supported amongst MAGA. That we can know because Jade Vance
does not have charisma. If I could go on a tangent,
do you remember jd Vance did not get any charisma
at all until he started being anti immigrant bigoted on

(23:11):
the campaign trail. Remember he went to the donut shop
and he was like, yeah, so, how long you been
working here? Is that a glazed? Oh? Cool? All right?
He has the charisma of a borg, uncharismatic borg. So
he was never going to get the support of Donald Trump,

(23:33):
the support levels that Donald Trump got. But now this
faction of MAGA that has been awakened, they are never
going to There's nobody in the next thirty years. Nobody,
I'm sorry, Like, well so some of them a lot

(23:55):
are old, so I can't say thirty years. Let's bring
that down to the next ten fifteen years. In the
next ten to fifteen years, there will never be somebody
who can compel this large of a contingency again with
the same demagogic rhetoric as Donald Trump. Because the wound

(24:16):
is too deep, the fracture, the rupture. Rather, I don't
know why I keep saying fracture. It's not a fracture,
it's a rupture. The rupture is too deep for them
to ever buy into that type of demagogery ever. Again,
and the particular wound I think is Look, I was

(24:37):
looking at the statistics. One out of four girls, one
out of four women have experienced something like this, perhaps
not just direct trafficking. Trigger warning. I guess maybe we

(24:58):
should give a trigger warning at the beginning, because I'm sure,
I'm sure because one out of six men, okay, one
out of four women, one out of six men have
experienced something of this caliber at least once in their lifetime.
Perhaps it's not trafficking, but they have experienced sa in

(25:23):
that in some fashion in their lifetime. Why do I
bring that up, Because there's no doubt that there are
millions in MAGA who were serious about Epstein because it
was a mirror of what they went through. Everyone in

(25:48):
the comment saying is even more than that, See this
is perhaps this was always going to be the thing
that turned things around. If somebody, if if if, if,

(26:09):
if my numbers are off, and you all want to uh,
please because I want to give the right numbers on
the air. But the last place I saw it said
one out of four uh women went out of six men.
But if you have better data than that, please put
in the chat room and we'll get it up on
the screen. Throughout world History, and I'm trying to finish.
I got so many things. I'm trying to finish it.

(26:30):
Y'all just forgive me. It's just it's just so many.
It's just so many things that I have to work on.
But one episode I'm trying to get out for Sunday
Night is on this exact issue because throughout world history
it has it has always been the children that they attack,

(26:51):
through every culture, through every empire, through every civilization, through
every race day definitely through every religion. All three of
the Big three, from the Abrahamic religions, Judaism, Christianity, Islam,
the Roman Empire and the Greek Empire, they all created

(27:16):
philosophies justifying grown men abusing small children as a matter
of custom and law. It was something they were proud of,
and I and you know, for years I've been elevating
my critique lens, and in order to elevate your critique

(27:41):
of society and your lens, ultimately you're gonna have to
transcend your own lens. So for a while, I always
knew white supremacy, I mean, since I was a jit,
since I was a little kid. Always this new white
supremacy was one of the great evils on this planet.

(28:05):
No doubt Christianity, a white supremacy is one of the
greatest evils on this planet. And then as I got
older and I'd learned and studied capitalism, and then I
got old enough to actually live in capitalism and realize, oh,
my parents were struggling, like they made they made every

(28:26):
day feel like a great day because they were pulling
off a miracle. But this system is evil. Capitalism is evil, right,
So then I added that to my collection of evils
that I recognized across civilization, across humanity, white supremacy, and
the capitalism. Then when I got married, No, sorry, it

(28:49):
took so long. Sorry it started. It took so long,
But I had enough. I had enough love and respect
for my wife to actually listen to her and was
actively trying to create space for her voice. And as
I created space for her voice, she had no problem
showing me the patriarchy that was raging in me. See here,
I was thought I was a woke liberal gentleman, you

(29:09):
know at the time, and she was like, ah no,
this patriarchy in YouTube Dixon. So I was like, okay.
So then I realized, I said, okay, I gotta you know,
it's not it's something that I participate in. It is
a privilege that I have. It is a way that
I serve in an oppressor. And so I had to
take a step back and say, okay, So it's not
just white supremacy, it's not just capitalism. It's patriarchy. And

(29:34):
for the last three four years I've been on patriarchy.
Patriarchy is a great because I could start seeing it
right and start making structural sense. It started, it filled
out the unholy trinity. It completed the unholy trinity capitalism,
white supremacy, and patriarchy. Then there's this four corners to

(30:00):
this because throughout and actually before I get to the children,
it made sense to me because for patriarchy an abuse
of women and women being oppressed in society, because that's
the lens I looked through. It is, as I say
to myselfself, who's being opressed? Right? And of course, you know,

(30:22):
growing up as a dude in America in the eighties
and the nineties, you know, in the early two thousands,
you know you're not looking at women as though they
are pressed. You're looking at women and thinking like, how
can I get them in bed, not realizing that that's
in and of itself, is a part of this construct.
And then when I finally took a step back and said, oh,

(30:44):
holy cow, I have been a part of that oppressive
system against women. So I started unraveling that, and you know,
we're doing pretty good, creating a wonderful space for my
daughter to grow up and understand and be able to
critically analyze and see it for herself, to the point
where I'm like, oh god, I'm created monsters. As you

(31:08):
get held accountable, man, you make space for people. I
think this is why people don't want to try to
liberate anyone else, because if you start creating space for
someone to actually speak up and to speak out about
what they see, even if it steps on your toes,
it's gonna step on your toes. And so throughout history.
I've been analyzing it, and I said to myself self,

(31:29):
it makes sense because if you think about just in
terms of oppressor and oppressor and oppressed and the oppressed,
then how since the beginning of time, since the beginning
of humanity, how many countless, unnamed, unknown women have been
utterly destroyed by this system? And not just the system,

(31:53):
I mean very intimately one on one with men because
of our physical ability to control get what we want
out of them. The barbarity of it all. So when
I started looking at it through that lens, I was like, Okay, Wow,
if I'm looking at it through the lens of the oppressed,
then I have to prioritize patriarchy, because even before white

(32:18):
supremacy there was patriarchy and the abuse and the oppression
of women by men. And I thought my analysis was complete,
and I had to pause and think about that thing.
What about the children? Because if there's a system that

(32:39):
has been grinding up women for the self gratification of
men since the beginning of time, there's been a system
of self gratification and the grinding up and the suffering
of children for the same exact period of time. And

(33:00):
if you look through history. It bears us out structurally.
The most powerful people have been able to get away
with this in every civilization. And you wonder, you wonder why? What?
What like? What? What is wrong with you people? What?

(33:22):
What is? What is? You can't? You could? You could
say cultural norms all you won't. You could, you could
say moral relativism all to what is wrong with a
civilization that not only allows it, but protects it and

(33:43):
and promotes people based on it. Now, I get this
part of it. I get the I get the intelligence
agencies using this proclivity as a means of blackmail that
I don't agree with. I think the intelligence agencies are
just as evil as the people who are doing it.

(34:04):
If you know these people are doing it and instead
of stopping and sending your spies in to kill them,
excuse me. I don't know if that's what I was
supposed to say. Cause if I had a spy agency
and I had a list of names of people who
are going around assaulting children, you think I'm gonna use

(34:24):
my agents to collect it and set up compromises? Say oh, okay,
so maybe in three years I'm gonna be able to
use this against Senator So and so nah man, there's
gonna be a lot of people not waking up.

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Speaker 1 (38:24):
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Speaker 2 (38:27):
Cause if I had a spy agency and I had
a list of names of people who are going around
assaulting children, you think I'm gonna use my agents to
collect it and set up compromise and say, oh, okay,
so maybe in three years I'm gonna be able to
use this against senat or so and so. Nah, man,

(38:49):
there's gonna be a lot of people not waking up
in the morning, I know, pastor, what are you talking
about there? You call it for child predation. I believe
we all can agree among so many other things. But
child predation is the top of it. Not just the psychosis,
the sickness, whatever, however you want to define it, but

(39:13):
what it robs that child of for the rest of
their life, and how and how just completely sociopathic you
can You cannot have one ounce of compassion in yourself
to participate in the act like that, no concern for
any part of that other person's entire life. So forgive

(39:38):
me when I say, if I had massade was first
of all, massa would't exist. But if I had the
CIA on my side, when I had agents all around,
all around the globe, oh man, the Catholic Church would
be good, God almighty, how many of the Catholic priests
would have gotten visits from me by now for my agents.
Because you know, I can't do much. All I can
do is give orders, you know, what I mean, I'll

(39:59):
be living. Then they're like, hey, like going in like
you know, I'd be dead before the I'll be climbing
the window, fall over and die. So to me, these
spy agencies who use this as compromise, you're just as evil.

(40:21):
Any government infrastructure that knows this is going on and
allows it, all of it deserves to come down. All
of it will be just fine. No, I mean, I
mean it, We will be just fine. This isn't snow Piercer.
We're not. I mean, don't get me wrong. We are

(40:42):
going into climbing disaster. Don't get me wrong. We are
going into the age of pestilence trademark Andrea Robinski. I
got that from Andrea right. We are going into some
really dark ages. But we're not at the point where
if we tore down this entire system that we could
not survive it. And even if we couldn't, why would

(41:04):
we still continue to want it to exist when it
can get away with this? Not once, not try some
four thousand times with just Jeffrey Epstein's list alone, Who
was the Jeffrey Epstein during the next administration? Hell, who
was the Jeffrey Epstein during the founding of this nation.

(41:25):
Who was the Jeffrey Epstein for King James, Who was
the Jeffrey Epstein for Poncha's pilot Augusta Caesar? All of it,
all of it, burn it all to the ground. And

(41:49):
this is why I believe we shouldn't necessarily we should
not be forgetful when it comes to Maga. We should
not ever forget everything they agreed with Donald Trump on
all of this time that they should have seen a
long time ago. Y'all know, I sure as hell and

(42:11):
not gonna forget all of the racism they came from,
all of them. But you know what I can do.
I could take the racism on the chain just for
a minute. Why because if I can get them to
work with us, if we can work together to get
rid of these demons, then we can fist fight another day.

(42:34):
We can. We can, we can, we could grapple, we can,
we can wrestle, we can disagree, we can you know
what I mean, We can have it out. But if
we can't start at a baseline of y'all are not
going to mess with our kids and get away with it.
I would even put an indendum to that, You're not
gonna mess with our kids and live to see another day.

(42:54):
We will give you a fair trial. Now maybe that's
that that's where Magae would disagree me, because you know
they don't like to give due process. I still believe
in due process. Fine, we will pay the expense as
a society to ensure that no one is no one's life, liberty,
or the pursuit of happiness is taken from them without
a fair trial and due process. That that might be

(43:17):
where a lot of people say, nah, that's too much.
But I thought you're gonna senspire us. I will after
we have convincing evidence. I'm gonna send my agents and
we're gonna take them out. But we got to have
due process. We've got to have a process for it.
Once we have that process, they need to be removed
from civilization. We If there's ever a standard that we

(43:39):
need to set, my goodness, is it not this now?
I don't. I don't believe. I don't. I don't think
we should put people on the wall, just believe in
a different economic system. I think we need to. I
think we need to beat them. I think we need
to push them in the dregs of society. I think
we need to seize power from them. I think we
need to make sure that they are never in control
of anything ever again. You know how many churches will

(44:05):
be empty? I think they're going to be Maybe, maybe
let me narrow it down, let me let me be
very specific where I want to send my agents in
my in my fictitious world that I have in my
mind every now and then, I would send you. You
would not want to get a visit from Pastor Ben's
goon platoon is what I call them. You would not
want to get a visit from my guys. And you

(44:27):
a pastor and a bishop and a priest, and you're
in the pool pit and you're supposed to be protecting Locke.
Instead you're praying on them, and you're praying on them
so much so I don't even know if y'all know
this is real. Let me show you, because I don't
want to just say it. I want to show you.
Child abuse, Uh, church insurance. Yeah, here it is. Let

(44:50):
me share this tab child abuse church insurance. But by boom,
sexual assault in the Church of Children is so prevalent
that they have abuse and molestation liability coverage. Did y'all

(45:15):
know that? Did you all know that it is now
a vertical in the insurance industry. It happens so systematically
that they're having to get insurance to cover it. So

(45:41):
forgive me, I probably would go far harder, far harder
on pastors and bishops and deacons and youth ministers and
all the you know, all the people who are in
church praying on children in the church, and you're doing
it hiding behind the name of the Lord. I don't
even know if you get due process in my world
on that one, I don't know. See this is a

(46:02):
grey era of a great area between morality and justice
and what is true justice. This is where I fall
into the grades. This is where I'm sure I probably
would go one step too far and do something that
God end up getting mad at me about. And so
you know, I try to tread very lightly here. This
is not about Bravado, but this is you have to
understand my entire life has been structured. In my adult

(46:24):
life has been structured around protecting my children.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Will be that with more on the Benjamindiction Show right
after this, Welcome back to the Dinjon Indiction Show.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
And when I realized that I can't protect my children
without protecting my neighbor's children, my community's children, the children
in my state, the children of my nation. You can't
protect your children will ultimately the feedback effect, the chickens
coming home to roost effect, the blowback. I can't look

(47:06):
and see what's happening in Gaza and think that it
won't reach my children. Maybe not absolutely literally, but in
the moral arc of the universe. To sit back and
either be a part of Lord, How does this even work, Matt,

(47:30):
I mean, Mick, to sit back and be a part
of what's happening in Gaza, even with just my words,
Like it blows me away to see how many people

(47:51):
are on social media not a part of the IDF,
not even Zionist. I mean there's Zionist in their brain,
but they're not even Jewish, they're not even in Israel,
but they support it with their words on social media
to the point where they just absolutely, like, have no

(48:12):
compassion whatsoever for what's happening in Gaza and think that's
not going to come back on your generations. See if
there's one divine principle that I think most people can

(48:33):
get into, whether you believe it or not, but you can,
you can see it and it's plausible to you. Is
what other people call karma. We call seed time and harvest.
You reap what you sew. What you put into this
world is what you're going to get out of this world. Now,
granted there's a whole lot of evil people who live forever.

(48:59):
It's the guy who who just died. Finally, we were
counting on him, We were counting on the days. I
can't think of his name, the one that was behind
all the bombing in Vietnam. What you put into this
world ultimately is what comes back to you. But guess
what if it don't come back to you, it comes
back to your generations. I just can't, for the life

(49:23):
of me, understand how many how many Kissinger thank you
hear me Kissinger? For the life of me, I cannot
understand how many people actively support the evil that we're
seeing happening in Gaza and not really take a step

(49:45):
back and say, now, wait a minute, could not could
this blowback dot come? You know who did say something
about it as an actor? Now I know him from
I know him from Criminal Minds is the one I
know him from. But apparently I think he's a part

(50:07):
of Homeland, which I haven't seen any episode of but
I saw it mentioned in the common section. He's Jewish,
and in fact, I believe that at some degree there's levels,
there's scales to Zionism, because you have some Zionists who
are just outright like, good God L Mighty, I want
to kill as many of these guys and babies as

(50:29):
I possibly can. I'm gonna play your clip of someone
who's like that, and I hope it doesn't trigger anyone
too much. What's my guy named here, Mandy Patinkin. I
want you to hear what he had to say about
what's going on in Gaza and how it ultimately is

(50:49):
a threat, a very direct threat to the Jewish people
all over the globe as well as to the state
of Israel. Now he kind of you know, when you
start talking about the state of Israel, I'm getting more
and more and more of the of the of the opinion.
My opinion on Israel gets more radical every single day.

(51:11):
Every day, I learn more, every day I see the evil.
You know, I'm almost at the point where I'm like, Ah,
from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.
But you know, just like we give space for those
magas who come around. This brother had a really good opinion.

(51:32):
He had an awesome take on it, and I want
to make sure that you get a chance to hear it.
Take a listen in and I.

Speaker 7 (51:38):
Ask Jews all over the world to consider what this man,
Benjamin Netanyahu and his right wing government is doing to
the Jewish people all over the world. They are endangering
not only the state of Israel, which I care deeply
about and want to exist, but they are dangerous the

(52:00):
Jewish population all over the world. He is the most
dangerous thing. Not just since October seventh, it has been
a deeply troubled situation. And watch what is happening. For
the Jewish people. To allow this to happen to children
and civilians of all ages in Daza for whatever reason,

(52:24):
is unconscionable and unthinkable. And I ask you Jews everywhere
all over the world, to spend some time alone and
think is this acceptable and sustainable? How could it be
done to you and your ancestors, And you turn it

(52:45):
around and you do it to someone.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Else whoof no, I gotta play it last second again.

Speaker 7 (52:57):
Everywhere all over the world, to end some time alone
and think is this acceptable and sustainable? How could it
be done to you and your ancestors, and you turn
around and you do it to someone else.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Yeah, oh my bad. Who that part? That is the
energy that every person on the planet. Right, But I

(53:41):
believe that you if you are a Jewish person, and
even if you are a Jewish person who believes that
Israel has the right to exist, this is the bear. This,
this is the bar. This is to me, And I
appreciate and I value that energy that he gave and

(54:03):
those words I filtered in my spirit. But to me,
that bar is super low. I'm glad he's there. I'm
glad that a lot of Jewish people are there. I'm
glad that there's so many Jewish people who reject Zionism.
There are so many rabbis who are just absolutely against Zionism. Right,

(54:24):
But that bar should have been up there with occupation.
That bar should have been up there with the knakbak, right.
But I'm glad it's there. And that's the bare minimum reaction,

(54:47):
that's the minimum viable product of showing that you have
a soul because some of these devils, Oh got to
be careful with the with the who. You gotta understand
there are some things that make me there. There there
are some spirits that make me cuss. This is why

(55:12):
I'm not in the poor pit right now. My my wife,
who is also a pastor, and she's a prolific preacher,
she is holding it down. I mean, every time I
sit back and watch my wife preach, I'm like, dang,
she works so much harder than me. She's she's really
studied and prepared. But one of the reasons I had
to step down for this public service sabbatical was because
some of these motherfuckers need to be cussed the hell out,

(55:35):
and I just don't want to be in the pool
pit while I do it. And this next individual, this demon,
this saedistic, twisted. And then there's of course the misogyny
behind the word I want to say that I won't say.
I won't say it. I'm gonna restrain myself. But I
want you to see just how pure evil I think

(55:57):
her name is. When Daniella, hang on, let me not
let me give you her name, actually, let me, let me,
let me let you play it while I go find
her name. I'm sure somebody in the audience does, but
I want you to see the difference. There are those
who reject what's going on. And then there are those
who don't believe that it's enough, and it will come
in a nice, grandmotherly smile like you see on the

(56:20):
face of this demon who's on your screen. Don't take
my word for it. Listen is right.

Speaker 8 (56:25):
But just to be clear, you have nothing to say
about twenty thousand children being killed, nothing at all.

Speaker 9 (56:32):
I have a lot. I have a lot to say
about everything that happened as the result of the massacre
of the seventh don't understand you.

Speaker 8 (56:41):
Care about israel children, just do I. But I'm able
to care about both sides of children who've died. Why
don't you care seemingly about the Palestinian children who've died.
Why can't you express any sympathy or sorrow or empathy
with the children who've died in Gaza?

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Are you able to do that? I warn all.

Speaker 9 (57:03):
Arabs, from all sides, from all borders, warn them stop
educating children who hate.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
To be clear, now three stop.

Speaker 8 (57:15):
Three times.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
I've made myself very clear.

Speaker 8 (57:18):
You've made yourself very clear me five times. I'm going
to give you one love to give you, okay, I'm
going to give you one last chance to offer some
empathy or sympathy or sorrow about the death of twenty
thousand children in Gaza?

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Are you capable of now? On her face?

Speaker 9 (57:38):
I can tell you that had you cared, and I
don't believe you that that you care a tiny bit
about one killed person if you do not use the
means that you have as a media person to stop
educating children. You okay, you gave me seven You know what,

(58:03):
you couldn't give it more than me.

Speaker 8 (58:07):
You don't care, and all you want is all the
Palestinians gone. You can barely even bring yourself to say
their name. All you want is to take over the
West Bank and Gaza. You don't care how many die
in the process. You want them all gone. You don't care,
do you. That's the bottom line.

Speaker 9 (58:28):
As you said, the audience will judge.

Speaker 8 (58:30):
Yeah they will, Daniel Wise, thank you very much. I
appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Mm hmm. What a demon? What a demon with a
smile on her face? You know what a demon I
was talking about is Thatch Ribin, the former prime minister.
And I'm gonna get out of here. Angry Ginger is
up next. Eat Rabine was the former Prime minister of

(58:58):
Israel who was killed. I believe it was had to
be like ninety four, ninety five, maybe ninety six. All
I know is I was in high school and I
was coming back from a marching band competition and my
dad picked me up and it was just such a
sad night, and I didn't really realize how tragic his
assassination was, which by the way, had ties directly to

(59:19):
Benjamin net and Yahoo one of an official and Israeli
official said that Benjamin Netanyaho's right wing ties led to
the assassination of Eazac Rabin, who had worked so hard
on the two state solution during the Clinton administration. And
as we were debating this online this week, somebody mentioned
he said, well, shows what you know, because is Zach

(59:43):
Rabin was a Zionist too, And I said, you know what,
Apparently he wasn't Zionist enough because the people, the Zionists
who are in power now killed him. So there's a
big range of thought and philosophy on that side of
the equation. Some who believe that they should murder every

(01:00:07):
single Palestinian, some who just happen to believe that they
have the right to take that land. I disagree with
all of them, all of them but I know this
much to daniell or Weiss's and I don't wish this
on anybody's children. But it's not for me to make
this decision. I pray that God is as merciful to

(01:00:31):
you and every Zionist as you all have been to
the children of Gaza. It's all the time I have
for today. Coming up next is The Angry Ginger.

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