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July 25, 2025 58 mins
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(00:41):
this space on YouTube. Good afternoon to everyone in the chat.
It's good to see you and too, brother Jackson White.
Thank you so much for what you do. Brother. I
always enjoy listening to you. In the last ten minutes
that I get to listen to the show, and as
we get ready to come into our show, I really
you know Donald Trump, I I one of things that's
going to stay in my mind is the fact that

(01:02):
I know Donald Trump would have been so much happier
he let his ego. Jackson White said in the last
hour that Donald Trump doesn't want to be president. The
biggest mistake he ever made was to run for president,
because now he's had just a lifetime of sorrows and
his legacy is ruined, and the fact that he is
a pedophile is now being exposed. But he let his

(01:25):
ego get ahead of him when President alten times blamed
Barack Obama for Donald Trump as well because of how
he humiliated him at the Correspondence dinner, and that was
the moment that was Donald Trump. Not that he needed
any additional fuel to become the villain, but he's certainly

(01:47):
that certainly was a joker moment in his life, a
transformation where he said, I'm going to prove him wrong
and I'm going to run for president of the United States.
Now we've all been suffering because of it. Right at times,
I think and wish that President Obama had not humiliated him.
So but here we are, folks, I have I need

(02:11):
to jump into something that's pretty pertinent and always the
time for us to talk about it. But I want
to talk about what's going on in Gaza from just
the lens of how down right evil Zionism is. And

(02:35):
I want to start. I know that this audience I
don't have to give this caveat for so I'm not
giving a caveat, but I want to make a distinction
and a delineation right at the beginning, because, as you'll
see on a graphic that I'll be sharing with you,
the number one tactic of Zionism is to use the
sorrow and the trauma of the Jewish people in order

(02:58):
to cause harm to others. And they hide behind the
veil of anti Semitism, and so any criticism of Zionism
has been lumped together as anti Semitism. And as we
sit back and we observe, because there's not much that

(03:19):
we have been able to do, we shouted to the
top of our lungs. Many of us went out and protested.
On my end, I've done as much. We've done the
little things that we count, and even want to list
the things that I've done, because at the end of
the day, none of what we could do has been
able to even slow down the sheer evil of what's

(03:45):
happening in Gaza. There's no need for me to put
graphics on the screen. You've seen the images. You've seen
the broken bodies of children. You've seen the broken hearts
of parents. You've seen the rubble and the completely decimated city.
You've seen the millions of people who have been herded

(04:06):
into one small area. You know how Israel has been
bombing refugee camps and hospitals and schools, killing doctors and journalists.
And that's the thing. I think that they don't care
or believe that they are so powerful as to be
able to change the memory that all of us have

(04:30):
of what they did to Gaza. That's what I believe,
that they think that they have the power to change
the memory of what they did, as if people cannot
see very clearly that who and what they are is

(04:51):
pure evil. Zionism is pure evil. Can I say it
just one more time? Not for dramatic effect, but for clarity,
m M. But for clarity, Zionism is pure evil. I

(05:21):
want to play a clip of someone who I have
not been fond of, especially since the election or just
before the election of Donald Trump. But I want you
to watch a clip. I want you to watch a
clip of Antakisparium. I'm sure maybe many of you have
seen it across your timeline. I'm sure many of you

(05:47):
have seen her reaction to people who are trying to
explain away or in this case, as she'll say, filibuster
about the truth of what is happening in Gaza. And
you know, I believe perhaps my most vicious critique is

(06:12):
for those people, those people who sit back comfortably here
in the United States, and they play the same exact
rhetorical games as Maga, the same half truths as MAGA uses.
These these liberal democrats who themselves identify as Zionists, who

(06:36):
when it comes down to Gaza, what do they do?
They play the same games that Maga plays with the truth.
Don't believe you're lying, guys. I believe. I believe that
that group is, for me, perhaps the worst group. It's
hard to get a lot worse than what Benjamin et

(06:56):
and Yahoo and the IDEF and the Likud party are
literally doing. But if there was any way to be worse,
it would be those people who know and are doing
the job of covering as if we are too ignorant
to know their bs when we see it. That's why,

(07:20):
if there's anybody see see what Benjamin Atanyahu is doing,
He's going to be forever remembered. Zionism will forever be remembered,
the IDF will forever be remembered. The state of Israel,
they will now forever be remembered for what they did
and in the process of doing, starving millions of people,

(07:44):
killing them as they come to get food. But for
those people who are explaining it away, and they're doing
it with such a gentle look and a gentle smile,
looking at it, you as like, why are you so
why are you so antis? And this is why I
totally understood what Anakosparian had to say here, not only

(08:06):
understood what she had to say, but also precisely and
exactly how she said it.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Listening mine for humanitarian aid, dozens of people get shot
and killed literally every single day, every single day, as
they're waiting for food. Now, I'm not gonna let you filibuster. Bitch,
I'm not gonna let you filibuster. I'm not gonna let
you philibuster. You guys are totally okay with IDM soldiers
shooting and killing desperate people waiting for humanitarian aid.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
You're okay with that. I find it so.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Unbelievably evil, unbelievably evil. It shocks my conscience and my
soul that people as evil as this exist in this world. Okay,
watching these images, looking at these videos, seeing all these kids, desperate, hungry, parentless,
trapped in Gaza, and you're sitting here and you're defending it.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
I can't.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
I can't stand it. I can't listen to it. The
filibustering is unbearable.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
It's unbearable, absolutely absolutely, and then a look on his face.
I don't even know who this guy is, but he's like,
I'm gonna be so peaceful about it. I'm gonna hold my
hands together and I'm gonna express so much patience because
I think by you yelling at me, you're demonstrating to
the world just how off kilter her you really are. No, no, no,

(09:24):
what we see here is a person and a Kasparian
with righteous indignation flowing through her veins. Side note this Anna,
bring this Anna to everything that you do. Anna Kasparian.
I'll go back and delete every video that ever made
if you bring this truth, this level of truth to everything,

(09:47):
because every word that you said to this demon as
he tried to look like he was so peaceful, everything
that you said was true, he sat there and try
to look like so calm, like what's wrong with her?
What's wrong with us is that you bastards are out
here killing indiscriminately and genociding indiscriminately, and committing a holocaust

(10:09):
so atrocious that we would be less than human beings.
If we don't recognize what you all are doing, what
Zionism is doing, what Zionism is equivalent to, Zionism is
equivalent to Nazism. You all made that happen. You all
are erasing. Zionists are erasing from our memory through force.

(10:29):
You are making us forget your Holocaust. No, let me stop,
Let me correct that that wasn't even your Holocaust. That
was a Holocaust of the Jewish people. You Zionists, are
a demon, You are something different.

Speaker 5 (10:48):
You've taken the identity.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Even rabbis, Jewish rabbis have identified the pure evil of Zionism. Okay,
even the rabbis have made it clear that what they
are doing, what Zionists are doing, is godless. Why does

(11:10):
that matter? Because Zionism tries to hide behind Judaism when
it doesn't even adhere to Judaism. Zionism tries to hide
behind the Jewish people when it goes against the religious
beliefs of Jewish people.

Speaker 5 (11:29):
And so Zionists are are dis lodging from our hearts
and our memory the atrocities done to the Jewish people.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Because of the atrocities that they're doing, It's gonna be
hard people are gonna say, what do you think about
the Holocaust? Yes, horrific, tragic, should never have been done.
Never deny it, never deny it. Right, But immediately after
you are going to have to say, but what about
what Zionism did to Palestine? Never forget, No, I will

(12:04):
never forget. But I'll never forget what you did to Palestine.
I'll never forget what you did to all of those families.
Entire families erased off the registry, get thirty at a time,
Entire lineages completely erased over some damn land. Imagine imagine folks,

(12:36):
imagine genociding and entire people, group of people, so you
can go put up some settlements in some condominiums. The
level of evil that you have to be the pure evil,
And you know, I actually I'm not done with that.
Let me put this clip right back up, because I
need people to see the evil guised in calmness, in

(13:01):
such a meek appearance. Oh why are you so angry? Anna? Anna? Anna,
He would say, Anna, it's the face of evil, it's
the face of cruelty. It's the face that could look

(13:24):
at children through a sniperscope and put a bullet in
the child's head or put a bullet in the child's heart,
and then it's the evil that comes back to the
United States of America coming back rather to the United
States of America says what Holocaust? What genocide? What children?
What children? Evil? I have to say one other thing,

(13:52):
And this was gonna be a little tricky for me.
I know that Congressman Al Green made a statement on
the floor indicting President Donald Trump for the genocide of Gaza.

(14:13):
You know, I saw that, and I want to play that,
But I'm also looking for the people who and he's
he has said other things. I want to be careful.
I want to be careful, but and I don't want
to be inaccurate. And I don't want to let my
emotions get the better part of me, because I guess

(14:34):
maybe today I've just been outraged even more, but I
don't I'm not interested. I'll tell you what. Let's listen.
I want to find that clip because I'm interested in
the people who were willing to identify the genocide that

(14:59):
began and under Donald Trump rather Joe Biden. You know,
I've seen more Democrats speak out now, you know, I've

(15:21):
seen more Democratic elected officials send out tweets. Now, yeah, okay,
and I get it, But where were all of you
when Joe Biden was behind it, when Joe Biden flew

(15:43):
over there and stood with and will set with him
on stage, Benjamin Night and that and Yahoo on stage
and continue to send weapons. Now, Al Green was one
who spoke out. But I want you to listen to this.

(16:07):
Listen to this clip, and then we'll talk on the
other side of this clip.

Speaker 6 (16:13):
Listen, listen there arise to ask, what do you call
it when you have a group of people who are.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Being denied food, denied the very essence and necessities of life,
When you are destroying their homes, when you're destroying their schools,
when you're destroying their churches, their infrastructure.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
What do you call it when you do to.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
This to them as a group, collective punishment? It is
called collective punishment, mister speaker.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
And why do you call it when you have a group.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Of people who are being pushed around, pushed from one
end of gadza to the other. They are literally being
slaughtered as they're seeking food.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
What do you call it?

Speaker 1 (17:07):
When people say that they ought to be removed from
their land? You call it ethnic cleansing, mister speaker, And
what do you call it when it appears to me
that there is a deliberate, systemic effort to destroy in
whole or in part, the Palestinian people, to destroy them

(17:32):
in whole are in part. We are witnessing before our
very eyes, mister speaker, genocide, genocide.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
In Gaza, and we say nothing.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
I am amazed at how this country that stands for
liberty and justice for all, this country that has a
statue of liberty, how this country can see what's happening
in Gaza and not call it what it is.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
That part that part agree when I'm one hundred ten
percent thank you for saying this. However, I have yet
to find him making this type of statement about Joe Biden.
And y'all know, y'all see, I'm a loyal dude. Sometimes
I'm loyal to a fault. Al Green is one of
those guys that I ride for. I ride for Al Green.

(18:26):
If he was my age, I would say, that's my dog,
you know what I mean. However, it breaks my heart
that I couldn't find any such statement against Joe Biden.
It was as much a genocide underneath Joe Biden as

(18:47):
it is right now under Donald Trump. I need to
say that again because my integrity, my soul is grieved,
and I can't move past the fact that as much
as I appreciate what he said here, as much as
I cherish what he said here, I have to recognize
that he made no such statement about Joe Biden, and

(19:12):
that bothers me. That bothers me deeply. Doesn't change the
truth of what he's saying now, but it certainly begs
the question, was it just a genocide after January twentieth,

(19:36):
twenty twenty five. No, it was a genocide long before that.
It was a genocide that began on Joe Biden's watch,
with the blessing of Joe Biden, with the blessing of
the United States of America, with the blessing of the
entirety of the West, with the blessing, and the silence,

(19:58):
the silence, oh, the strategic silence of a whole bunch
of black folk related and connected to APAK. Now, I'm
not gonna litigate that one here because we're a mixed company.
This is this is farth. I'm gonna go calling out
the long list of names of black folk who were

(20:21):
silent about this because you know we are that that's internal,
that's internal housekeeping. I got it. I'm gonna do it,
just not just gonna do it on more, you know.
But I will say this now, No, I'm not even
gonna say that some stuff gotta stay in house. But

(20:43):
as for the Democrats generally speaking, especially for those people
who can't understand for the life of them, why somebody
would not have voted for the administration, whether it was
Joe Biden or Kamala Harris in the election. People like

(21:03):
to play that game. How could you expect people with
any ties see I did an evil thing me personally
in context of Gaza. None of us should have voted
at all, none of us. But I voted why Because

(21:25):
I knew Donald Trump was just as bad and going
to be worse. I knew that this was a consensus
of the West. I knew that this was an indictment
of everything that we stand on. I knew that it
was revealing. The rock that's at the core of the West,
that's at the core of America, that's at the core

(21:47):
of our so called democracy, is the fact that both
parties agreed to sit back and let this happen and
so voting for either one of those parties was an
evil task that many of us chose, and we did
the difficult thing. We did what we had to do
in order to try and stop fascism. But here we are. Here,

(22:09):
we are with fascism in full throat your right, in
full form, right here in the United States. As a reflection.
It is a reflection of what we allow globally. It
has always been the case that what we do globally
will always come back domestically. I hate to have to

(22:31):
call out my dear brother, dow Green because what your
words were so powerful Maine, Maine, your words were so
powerful for where were your words when it was Joe Biden?
And I'm still gonna ride for that brother. Don't y'all
talk too bad about him in the chat room. I

(22:56):
have a thing. I have an affinity for older black
men because I want to become an older black man
one day. I want to be able to walk around
in the cane as pimped out as his But damn
it if I don't say the truth no matter who's
doing what's wrong. Same thing with the Jeffrey Epstein list.
I don't care who's on that list. I don't care

(23:17):
if Barack Obama, which I doubt he is very seriously,
but let him be on that list. I won't his
head too. We all kind of figure that Bill Clinton's
on the list. Get them too?

Speaker 5 (23:30):
Who my favorite artists?

Speaker 3 (23:31):
So I don't even know if I have a favorite
musician anymore, Get them too. We gotta be able to
hold a standard and draw the line on something genocide,
child predation. Is there nothing where we would not stand

(23:57):
up and speak out and hold the line when our
party is in power and they're the ones doing it.
I want to go through a graphic that I made.

(24:18):
I want to go through a graphic that I made
so that you can see what Zionism says versus what
Zionism does. I've been sharing this all over the internet
over the last couple of days because I need people
to really Number one understand very clearly. Number one. I

(24:41):
want to repeat again. And I know I don't have
to continue to repeat this for this audience because you
are an audience of good faith. But I do know
that there are going to be plenty of people who
watch the clips that I'm going to clip of this
and put out myself, and they're going to say, oh,
there there's another black preacher, just an anti Semite. Hm.

(25:03):
You know, the problem I have with you all has
nothing to do with your faith, has nothing to do
with the trauma that you have endured. In fact, it's
been difficult for me to have to come to such
vocal terms against you, But I guess that's kind of

(25:25):
what genocide to do to you. You know, I've had
to expose myself in this way not having as vehement
opposition to the occupation as I should have had. You know,

(25:47):
sometimes we look at a status quo and we just
let the status quo be for the sake of peace
in our lives. Never forget, I'm sitting down, sit around
with am I gonna say the name? Yeah, David Pacman
in Boston. I was using his studio at the time,

(26:09):
and somehow we got on the two States solutions, we
got on Palestine and Israel, and he essentially just shut
down the whole conversation as it's so much more complicated
than that. Now. Truthfully, at the time, I did not
have the intellectual ammunition to let him know, no, bitch,

(26:30):
it's not more it's not more complicated than that. And
I was silent, not silent. I wasn't aggressive. There's a
difference between being silent and being aggressive. Not nearly as
aggressive as I am, not nearly as equipped as I am.

(26:52):
And I think this is why knowledge is so critical
in this because if you are a person who has
had a history of standing with the Jewish people, let's
start there, standing with the Jewish people, and as an
extension of you standing with the Jewish people, you have
indirectly or tacitly stood with Israel. Never been a Zionist,

(27:17):
never been one to ignore ignore the plight of the
Palestinian people. But because your position was standing up for
Jewish people because of the history of what they had
been through, you allowed ambuguility to exist in relation to
the occupation of Palestine. And without the information and the

(27:39):
knowledge necessary to strike at the core of this idea
that it's so much more complicated, then you're not really
a useful You're you're not useful. I wasn't useful. I
wasn't useful in the conversations I used to try to
have with David Packman over over Israel and Palestine. Wasn't
wasn't useful when with with several other people who turn

(28:01):
out to be Zionists in my life. Yeah, not all
of them. Jewish people have had some black Zionists who
have been in my life. And I'm looking back in retrospect,
I'm like, oh, that's why you were there, that's why
you were paying attention to me, that's why you used
to make calls to me. And every time we had
a call it ended up being something. So just kind

(28:23):
of retroactively, retrospectively looking through my life, I realized, wait
a minute, these months, these m what Zionism says and
what it does a structural breakdown of contradiction, alignment, and
harm in the right left hand corner of the red column.
What Zionism says is the problem what Zionism. And what

(28:44):
I did last week was I took a tweet from
Benjamin and Yahoo as he was pointing to USAID and
he was looking at the funds from us AID, and
he was pointed to how USAID ends up helping all
of these factions that are left leaning that are a

(29:05):
problem from his perspective for Israel. It was a little
simple chart, and from that simple chart, I deconstructed it
and I, you know, do what I do, and and
and then I threw in my formulations and my calculus
and to AI, and I put five minutes later, I
had this chart beautifully made, and AI was so mad

(29:29):
that it wouldn't make any graphics for me for the
rest of the day. I lied to you, not after
I got this. I mean I steam rolled chat GPT
with such a quick analysis that formulated this exact thing.
Everything that you're gonna see. All of this came immediately
out of AI. I say five minutes, but I say
about ten minutes, ten minutes after I saw that tweet
from Benjamint and Yahoo, I had AI crunch this out.

(29:53):
And the accuracy of it is so brilliant, as well
as the fact that it would not make images for
me for the rest the day. I said, okay, fine,
you did this one. This is good enough. And so
the premise was, here are human rights organizations. Look at
this left hand column. Right, here are human rights organizations
that are doing things that they are now defining they

(30:14):
being Zionists, are defining as a problem for Zionism, for Israel. Right,
So who Zionism says is a problem. Let's go down
the list. They say human rights organizations are the problem.
In the left hand column, legal aid for Palestines is
a problem. Israeli peace activists are a problem. The progressive
Jewish groups are a problem. Whistleblowers and army refusers are

(30:37):
the problem. Journalists are documenting state violence are a problem,
so much so that they are killing them, and that
American Jewish critics are the problem, and that the international
NGOs are the problem. This is literally what the LECUD
Party and Benjamin Nettan Yahoo and Zionists have to say
all day long, every day, because these are the groups

(30:59):
that are pointing out that this is clearly a genocide.
And so now Zionists and Benjamin and Yahoo, they're saying
every one of them are a problem. Every one of
them are anti Semitic, every one of them, even American
Jews right here, Oh you guys can't see my mouse
on the screen. Cany Jewish people who criticize Zionism are

(31:27):
considered the problem by Benjamin in Yahoo. So here's who.
But look at in the middle who Zionism actually partners with.
Who do they actually partner with? For right US politicians,
the true anti Semites, the group of people who don't listen.

(31:51):
And here's where I know, the people of good faith,
those of you in the audience. I know you get it,
but I want to say this, there's a different reason
that I oppose Zionism. Then what nickquint has is opposing
Zionism for conservatives, even Evangelical Christians, well actually evangelical Christians,

(32:14):
they're not gonna oppose it. They actually gonna support it
because they believe that they have to reclaim the Temple
Mount for Jesus to come back. So let me tell
Christian zion Is off of that, they clearly going to
support them to no end, except the fact that this week,
when they understood that there was a Christian church, an
ancient Christian church, that had been bombed by Israel, then

(32:35):
all of a sudden you saw some Christian Zionists come
and speak out as if nobody else's life mattered, Mike Huckabee,
Ambassador to Israel, nobody, nothing else mattered before then you
only got upset, Mike Huckabee when they bombed a church,
when Israel bombed a church. But I digress. Let me
stay focused in the middle column. Who Zionism actually partners

(32:59):
with US politicians? The Maga movement full of true anti
Semites who hate Jews just because they're Jews. But here
is who Benjamin Netan, Yahoo and Zionists are aligning with
right now, Christian Zionists. We already went over that authoritarian
leaders across the globe, Hungary, India, and Brazil, settler movements.

(33:23):
Of course they're gonna align with settler movements because they
are themselves a settler movement. The military industrial actors. Of
course they need the weapons. Of course they're gonna align
with these institutions. White nationalists who quote unquote like Israel.
I love that this came out with quotes on it,
because the only reason they like Israel is because they

(33:45):
might hate Muslims just a bit more. And when I
say Muslims, they're not going to count the fact that
Gaza has thout millions or rather hundreds of thousands of
Arab Christians there, Palestinian Christians there. Oh, they just see
if you're skin is brown and you're from a Middle
Eastern sounding country that you know, these white supremacists see

(34:06):
you as a Muslim anti democratic global networks. Look at
the people who Israel through Benjamin and Yahoo, who they
are aligning with, people, groups and organizations that genuinely hate
the Jewish people. Simply because they are Jewish. And who

(34:27):
do they point to? They say, oh no, look at
those people like Ben Dixon, that pastor Ben he has
he's anti Semitic, He's the anti semi Why because we
oppose your genocide? Last column, how Zionism justifies itself Number

(34:47):
one bullet one. It equates any criticism with anti Semitism.
It doesn't matter if it's a baby. Oh lord, the
video we saw that child who half the body was
missing this week. The entire bottom half of the body
of that child was missing, and the parent was carrying
that child trying to get some dignity for that child

(35:11):
and death. And when we speak out against that, we're antisemitic.
This second bullet was so important. Uses Jewish trauma to
excuse state violence. Column three, Bullet two. This is on
my timeline. I have it on my timeline multiple times.

(35:33):
If you want to get this, please do go get
it and feel free to use it. But that second
bullet there uses Jewish trauma to excuse state violence. Isn't
that what Benjamin Att yahoo? Isn't that what Zionism is doing.
Isn't that exactly the core of Zionism from the beginning
See see when I used to try to politely have

(35:56):
these conversations with my friend. I'm sure we probably don't
refer to each other as friends right now. But David Packman, see,
I didn't really know what the Knapa was, right, and
I didn't really understand the history of how Israel was
born not you know, I understood that it was a

(36:19):
state that was created by the United Nations Resolution, right,
But the carry out and the process of it becoming
a state, and I'm bringing that up here is because
from day one, from the inception, from the very inception,
in the mind of it was a theatre. Herzel his

(36:44):
first name escapes from but his last name is certainly Herzl.
In the late nineteenth century, it utilized the precarious position
of Jews distributed around the globe as a diaspora, as
a justification for an ideology that would later come into
fruition as a full state violence of Zionism. Bullet three,

(37:12):
he says, defending power equals defending Jews. That's the one.
There's no level of violence that has not been used
to say, but we're defending Jews. No, you're not. You're
not defending the Jewish people. If anything, you are putting
the Jewish people in a far more dangerous situation. Why

(37:35):
because now when we remember the Holocaust, we can't remember
the Holocaust without going right to the Holocaust of Palestine.
All for what a new settlement, some new condominiums, some

(37:58):
beach property. They have put the Jewish people globally in
a far worse position because Zionism has equated the State
of Israel with Jewish people, not us. We're trying to
do our best to let people know, Hey, the Jewish
people are not the state of Israel. The State of

(38:20):
Israel is not the Jewish people, but Zionists have to
conflate that in order to justify their violence and to
justify their use of power, because they want you to
think that defending their power is defending the Jews. They
labeled disagreement as disloyalty. Have you seen the way Have

(38:44):
you seen the way they've gone out after Katie Halper,
Max Blumenthal, Jewish people in the United States of America
who are speaking out vehemently against the State of Israel,
they mark them. They say they can't even come back
to Israel. Well, I'm sure they don't want to go
back there, but that's the if you are not a Zionist,

(39:09):
then you are labeled as disloyal, portrays aid and activism
as foreign threats. The fool that's necessary to keep the
children and the parents in Gaza alive is right at
the border, but they blockaded it because they consider that

(39:32):
a threat. Claim security while fueling conflict. You know who
is that that did an interview? Was some some podcasters
did an interview with with Benjaminette Yahoo. Could I do
an interview with you? Benjamin Atte and Yahoo? Can? Can

(39:53):
we can? Can we? Just? I just want to talk
with you. I just I just want to ask you questions.
I couldn't possibly be a threat to you of too
small of too peaceful, claim security while fueling conflict their actions,
the actions of the Lekud Party, the actions of Benjamin

(40:14):
in Yahoo, the actions of the regime in control of Israel,
the many wars that they have started, the fronts I
mean Syria just recently bombing Damascus. Benjaminatya, who is truly

(40:37):
on this campaign that he believes is going to be
the birth of the greater Israel project. If you haven't
seen that, I'm sorry, I don't have those graphics for you.
But the Greater Israel project requires the decimation of several nations,
mostly Muslim nations, Arabic nations. It is the hope of

(41:00):
every imperialist to grow their empire. Let's keep going because
I want to end. I want to end with something
very very clear. Builds alliances with enemies of the Jewish.

(41:20):
This is the one that gets me. They build alliances
with enemies of Jewish safety. When you align with the
far right with every nation across this globe. Let me
say that better. When you align with the far right
movements in every nation across this globe, you are aligning

(41:45):
with the people who want to harm Jewish people simply
because they are Jewish. And then they look at those
of us, us who are like, hold on number one,
we were never gonna go with you, for go along

(42:06):
with you for genocide. Number two, shame on us for
either being silent or uninformed, not informed enough to be
able to not go along with you in your occupation.

(42:28):
But now you are turning on those of us who
have stood with the Jewish people because we stand with
the oppressed no matter where we find them, And you
expected us to stand with you as you turned into
or revealed yourself to be the a pex oppressor, because

(42:49):
you've been an oppressor since the inception of the idea
of Zionism, especially once it required you to expel seven
hundred thousand Palestinians in the first Knockbuk. I've had a
little time with history this week, and and and again.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Y'all.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
Uh, some of this is a black centered conversation. So
you know, I love you all, but you know, just
just let me have it out. I'm just gonna say
it out loud. It doesn't doesn't mean that I'm expecting
you to give commentary on it. Maniard, not Manyard. Let's
start with the ones that Correta. Scott King, Doctor Martin

(43:30):
Luther King, Bayard Rusting, that's the name, especially Bayard Rusting,
Rosa Parks, all of them writing letters and statements and
support of Zionism in the sixties. Bayard Rusting the most

(43:53):
vocal of them all saying that to be anti Zionist,
this to be racist. Now, of course, this is a
direct result of the number of Jewish people who stood
with them during the Civil Rights movement, for sure. But
then I started, I said pause. I said wait a minute,

(44:14):
wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, wait. The knock ba
had already occurred by them, right right, right, So I'm
googling AI and god dogg it. Yeah, Now you could
be so right on so much and then so wrong
on that last piece. Of course, I'm not going to

(44:40):
use that to dishonor the memory of our elders, but
it is to say that for every Doctor King, there
was a Malcolm X. Stokely Carmichael who saw very clearly
that the fight here in the United States for civil
rights could not be devo or be silent on what

(45:05):
was happening in Palestine even then. But now a whole
new generation of us have been born and with clear
eyes of knowledge. What do I mean then, once we learned,
once we learned what the hell was going on, you

(45:28):
can't play that game with me. Somebody said, well, doctor
King was a Zionist. Doctor King was wrong. What are
we doing here with you think? I can't. There are
no sacred cows, there are no there are no venerated ancestors,
so much that we can't identify what they got wrong. Oh, oh,
you're anti Semitic because Bayard rusted You know, Bayard Rustling

(45:50):
was wrong. He was loud and wrong. Oh you're just
honoring Kreta Scott King. No not, because later on in
Kredita Scott King's life she corrected her. She wrote another
letter making it clear that what was happening to the
Palestinian people. You just want us to remember when she
spoke in support of Zionism. You don't want us to
remember when she came full circle and said, wait a minute, now,

(46:12):
I can't ride with y'all. They build alliances right here,
the second to last bullet in the third column. They
build alliance with enemies of Jewish safety, while making enemies
of the very people who stood with them, even at

(46:32):
times when we shouldn't have stood it with you, but
because we won't go along with you in genocide. And
to all those black folks, who are I know there's
a lot of white folks, and I know I'm talking
to our diverse audience. I know I'm not talking to
my exp my precisely black audience. But I was just

(46:53):
thinking of a couple of names, A couple of names.
Mmm mmm mmmm mm oh, how you have been silent?
Let me throw one out for the wolve because I
don't really consider him black anyway, Richie Torres, he's black
passing one of the loudest supporters of this genocide. We

(47:15):
gotta rip that melanin right out of your skin, brother,
because we have no requirement to go with people into
becoming the oppressors ourselves. And then we have to retroactively
look and accept the fact that they were already oppressors

(47:36):
when we stood with them the first time, or when
we were silent when they were occupying, or when we
were too uninformed or not aggressive enough. We have to
look in the mirror and say, dang, we got that wrong.
They pretend last bullet, they pretend repression equals protection the

(48:00):
bottom the shield area. These are people and institutions that
hold people accountable. That's who Zionism says is a threat.
Far right column this is a conspiracy is a repeatable formula. Yeah, well, yeah,
that's for sure, because what you're going to find are
these exact techniques that we've outlined here is at the

(48:20):
core of every imperialist movement, of every oppressive group. They
must make these what we're calling self destructive paradoxes. It's
a self undermining paradox to align yourself with the very

(48:44):
people who hate you simply because you are you Benjamin
net and Yahoo Zionism, to align with Donald Trump, to
align with Magnatude, align with Christian nationalism, to align with
all of the different nationalist groups. That is a self
undermine paradox that is going to make you implode. The actions,

(49:04):
all of these actions that Zionism uses to justify itself,
those are actions that are going to inevitably make it
collapse underneath its own paradoxes. You cannot operate in the
way that Zionism operates, our empire operates, or white supremacy operates,

(49:25):
and expect it not to collapse. And every time it
gets close to collapsing, what does it do. It goes
and starts another war so that it can live to
oppress another day. Zionism doesn't protect Jews, and in doing so,
it turns your values, your allies, and your safety into enemies.

(49:50):
This isn't about Judaism. It's about a political system that
now uses Jewish fear to serve authoritarian goals. It calls
justice dangerous, It's silences dissent, and it shakes hands with
those who hate Jews so long as they allow for

(50:10):
and praise the power of Zionism. That is the evil
of Zionism. That is the clarity that we must have
when we fight back against this demon that is Zionism.

(50:33):
We must save all of the ai spelled. You know,
Big O doesn't with an E or rather with an
A what it was saying, my eyes are betraying me.
We must have precision in our arguments and precision in
our understanding of what they are doing, they being Zionists.

(50:57):
Be sure that every time you speak, you never let
it come out of your mouth. Identify those pronouns. Who's
behind the pronouns? When I say they, I'm talking about Zionists.
When I say Zionists, I'm not talking about the Jewish people,
I'm talking about the political movement, many of whom are

(51:19):
not even Jewish because they're not a part of the faith.
Benjamin at Yahoo is not a practicing observer of the Torah.
This is why we should amplify and elevate the voices
of the Jewish diaspora, as well as rabbis who are

(51:40):
very clear about the fact that Zionism doesn't represent them.
We must speak with precision. Why because every word that
we say will be used against us. Do you understand
what I'm saying? We must speak with precision, because every

(52:05):
word that we say will be used against us. And
so as we continue to speak out against the the
the horrors that we see, the design is regens.

Speaker 7 (52:25):
The secuation of the ancient Second Jewish Cemetery of the
demonstration is called by the Orthodox Radical Union of the
United States and Canada in cooperation with the Austric Anddition organizations.
Since stand there in Manhattan at the same time in

(52:46):
your hood, courageous un designer Jews are standing in defense
of the ancient Jewish graves under grouple violent assoult and
the rest but thesign highness police forces, highness police forces
seeking to race our sacred past. According to Judaism, which

(53:10):
teaches the existence of life after death, pigging graves is
a serious sin. Of course, this terrible tragedy of crime
could only take place in the state calling itself Israel,
which was established by erratics against the will of all

(53:33):
leading to authorities. Since the tour expressly forbids the existence
of a Jewish state going under highly decreed exile throughout
its existence, design.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Estate has trampled on every law.

Speaker 8 (53:50):
The tore with impunity efficiently oppressed all those who stood
in its way and today has many Juis protested to Tuesday,
July twenty two, as many Jews protested at the sight
of the grave, digging.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
In your hood design is.

Speaker 7 (54:11):
Police find the arrested, many among them three young boys
who probably refused deserve and designs.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
Roony precision in our speech, amplifying and elevating the voices
of Jewish people who are doing this fight themselves, ensuring
that we educate ourselves, both in terms of our our

(54:42):
own education, but it's our history, because our history will
be used against us. Oh, the civil rights leaders were Zionists. Yeah,
and they were wrong, and here's why, and understanding the

(55:02):
arguments as precisely as we can so that we never
allow ourselves to be trapped by a movement that has
taken its trauma. Let me rephrase that, a movement that
has taken the trauma of Jewish people and turned it

(55:24):
into the very fuel that's necessary to become the traumatizers.
They've taken there the victimhood of the Jewish people, and
they've used it to become the victimizers. They've taken the
oppression of the Jewish people and used it to justify
becoming oppressors. That's the evil of Zionism, and that's what

(55:48):
we must stand against. And I'm afraid that we are. Well,
we're nowhere near what's necessary to say stop it. We're
nowhere near time that it's going to end because of
how freely they have moved all around the globe to

(56:11):
do everything that they want to do, to bomb indiscriminately,
and who's and it's almost like they're looking around and saying,
who's going to stop us? Well, I just want to
play this system one more time because I miss this Anna,
and I think this energy and this clarity, I think

(56:32):
this energy and this clarity is precisely what's needed in
this moment when we face when we face the peaceful
looking how look how peaceful that guy looks. He's like, Oh,
she's so ridiculous. Oh she's so irate, she's so out
of control, And I'm just a peaceful Jewish man. In reality,

(56:53):
he's a Zionist who wants to be able to accomplish
the Greater zion the greater is real movement, which is
going to require the bloodshed of so many millions of
more people. And if we don't have the clarity and
the insight necessary to stand against them, then we're gonna
find ourselves in the same position we were when they

(57:15):
start at the genocide of Gaza.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
We'll get shot and killed literally every single day, every
single day, as they're.

Speaker 5 (57:21):
Waiting for food.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
Now, I'm not gonna let you filibuster, bitch. I'm not
gonna let you filibuster. I'm not gonna let you filibuster.
You guys are totally okay with IDF soldiers shooting and
killing desperate people waiting for humanitarian aid.

Speaker 5 (57:34):
You're okay with that. I find it so.

Speaker 4 (57:37):
Unbelievably evil, unbelievably evil.

Speaker 5 (57:41):
It shocks my conscience and.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
My soul that.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
People as evil as this exist.

Speaker 5 (57:46):
In this world.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
Okay, watching these images, looking at these videos, seeing all
these kids, desperate, hungry, parentless, trapped in Gaza, and you're
sitting here and you're defending it.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
I can't.

Speaker 5 (57:59):
I can't stand it. I can't listen to it.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
The filibustering is unbearable. It's unbearable.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
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