November 20, 2024 • 32 mins
Kristine Carlson, co-author of the beloved New York Times bestselling Don't Sweat the Small
Stuff book series, has touched millions of lives with her wisdom and compassion. With over 25
million copies sold worldwide, her work—originally co-written with her late husband, Dr. Richard
Carlson—has become a beacon for those seeking peace and purpose. Kristine’s journey of
resilience is also captured in the Lifetime biopic, Don’t Sweat the Small Stuff: The Kristine
Carlson Story, inspired by her memoir Heartbroken Open, a true story of rediscovering life after
profound loss. Visit dontsweateveryday.com for more information and to pre-order the book.
Stuff book series, has touched millions of lives with her wisdom and compassion. With over 25
million copies sold worldwide, her work—originally co-written with her late husband, Dr. Richard
Carlson—has become a beacon for those seeking peace and purpose. Kristine’s journey of
resilience is also captured in the Lifetime biopic, Don’t Sweat the Small Stuff: The Kristine
Carlson Story, inspired by her memoir Heartbroken Open, a true story of rediscovering life after
profound loss. Visit dontsweateveryday.com for more information and to pre-order the book.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, everybody, Welcome to the Best Ever You Show. I'm
Elizabeth here with the amazing best selling author Christine Carlson.
How are you. I'm losing my already. Look at that, Elizabeth.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
It's so good to see you.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Yeah, we were joking before we went on. I've got
you know, everybody knows that. So I'm fifty five now,
and so I have one thing that's hot for when
i'm cold. So this is coffee, and the other thing
if I turn beat red in the middle of the conversation,
this is ice water hot.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yeah. Yeah, I've been through that. I'm sixty one, so
I went through that a long time.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Ago, just the worst. So, yeah, you turn beat red
all of a sudden, it's like no, no, no, nothing's wrong.
Just to hot flash. Everybody patha freezer.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
You stand at the freezer for a really long time.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
My husband's fiance is here and I was saying, does
your mom have this? And she goes, yeah, she just
goes outside in the you know, in the winter time
or whatever when they have it.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Is your husband's fiance.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
No, I dn't just say that. Okay, we're gonna put that.
I haven't got my I'm gonna start that over my
son's fiance, my husband.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I don't know about that. I've ever heard that one.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I guess polygamy is a real thing.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Oh no, no, okay, So my son's fiance is here,
and I asked her about her mom if she has
hot flashes all the time, because we're about the same age,
and she says she just goes outside in the wintertime.
But I'm pretty that's pretty funny. I'm like, yeah, I
just go stand outside and here in Maine, so anyway.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Because men like at night they went there, They're like
all suddenly, what all the covers and then women are
throwing the covers offying.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
My mom bought me. My mom was funny, right, she
bought me this portable fan that goes around your neck
and just fans the whole time. Cool air. I'm like,
that's pretty funny. That's pretty funny. Boy.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
That sounds good though, right.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
The boys are like this actually works, mom. So anyway,
all right, all kidding the side, because I love you know,
I love your books. There. You know, you are the
author and co author of Don't Sweat the Small Stuff,
the book series, and you have a new book out
that's in pre order called Don't Sweat the Small Stuff
every Day. Yeah, right off of that, Yeah, there it
is Don't Sweat the Small Stuff every Day. So everybody
(02:19):
can go to Don't Sweat Everyday dot com or Christinecarlson
dot com. The books available for pre order, and I
just want to tell everybody that we're going to do
some giveaways on best ever You dot com. And what
else were we going to do? I think that we
have coupons and things like that for your store.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, I've a Don't Sweat Good store. So there's just
everything from coffee mugs to wendsies and T shirts. They're
all really high quality things. And I'm give you forty
percent off coupon for the holidays.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
So all right, So this is our first time at
Best ever You interviewing you. So let's just sit back
and listen, because it sounds like you've got a lot
of things going on with like women's retreats, books, all
the stuff. Just tell us a little bit about where
where you want our audience to go other than pre ordering.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Oh yeah, well, I mean should we just talk about
just share the stories and all that stuff first?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
And then it would be so nice, Yeah, to like
how have we arrived at this point. You have a
new book out you know, you certainly wouldn't have to
have a book out right if you didn't want to.
So you have a passion for self help and helping
helping people, and I know you've got a lot of
expertise with the other books you've written about grief and loss.
So yeah, start where we want because this is gonna
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be an introduction for everybody to meet you.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah. Well, hopefully your audience is familiar with it. Don't
Sweit a Small Stuff book series, It's been around for
a long time. My husband and I, my late husband
and I were really kind of pioneers right after the
Wayne Dyer, that kind of first group of psychologists. We
were kind of pioneers in the personal development space, especially Richard.
(04:02):
He was a doctor, Richard Carlson, psychologist himself, and he
wrote Don't with the Small Stuff in nineteen ninety seven.
And it was during a time where the world was
really kind of that we were entering into a high
technology phase. That was when dot com was coming out,
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dot Com, dot bom. That was when, you know, we
hadn't entered the social media stage, but it was coming
and people surprisingly were very overwhelmed by technology, and so
Don't What the Small Stuff really hit a chord, not
just in America, but in every country around the world.
So that book sat on the New York Times for
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over one hundred weeks and the number one spot and
sold millions of copies its first year. And it was
different than my husband's other books. That was his tenth book,
and so it was a different a totally different structure.
He chose that short chapter structure. Yeah, and it was
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a crazy time for us, super fun, super amazing, super busy.
We had young kids at the time, young family, so
of course I was homesweating the small Stuff with our
kids while he was out on the road doing interviews.
And then at the tenth anniversary of Don't Sweat the
Small Stuff, like about a week before our lives changed
(05:32):
in a really dramatic turn, Richard stood at the counter
and he was saying, you know what's really cool about
the Don't Sweat the Small Stuff series, Because by that
time we had like, I don't know, seven or eight
books in the series. And I said what, and he's like, well,
it's pretty cool because every ten years there's a whole
new group of people that are sweating the small stuff
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and that we'll need these books. And it turns out
he was right. And about a week later after we
had that conversation, my husband got on a flight to
New York to promote his latest book, and on the
descent of that flight, he had a pulmonary embolism that
took his life. And he was forty five, I was
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forty three, and our kids were in high school. And yeah,
it was a shock, and it completely shattered our lives.
And so it sent me on a totally different trajectory
of healing, healing, you know, my going through loss and
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going through grief, and I really just found the whole
process just both absolutely beautiful and also absolutely terrifying. And
so I began to sort of witness myself going through
loss and started to keep a journal because I felt
like journaling in the early morning would take up that
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time that he and I used to spend together having
coffee and you know, just strategizing about books, about life,
about everything. And out of my journal came, you know,
quite an awakening that I went through, and I wrote
the book Heartbroken, Open a memoir through loss to self discovery,
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and started a whole new kind of path, and then
I was asked to write Don't Sweat the Small Stuff
for moms. So a couple of years after I'd been
really in the grief creating circles for women, just doing
all sorts of things, I kind of switched gears and
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I didn't leave that conversation, but I went back to
the Don't Sweat the Small Stuff series and I wrote
a new book in the series, and it was great,
and it was a really amazing experience. And then the
series has just been going on. You know, it's just
been continuing on. It's a tried and true kind of
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philosophy that sort of kind of paved the way for
a lot of people entering the personal development space as leaders.
Most a lot of leaders will tell you Don's what
the Small Stuff was one of the first books self
help books they read. And you know, it was beautiful
because now I see how Richard was really a pioneer
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in the field of mindfulness and psychology and in the
field of positive psychology. Those terms weren't even out there
when he began writing about happiness. He was one of
the very first authors to ever write a book with
happiness in the title, and it was called you Can
Be Happy no Matter What, And in the first paragraph
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of that book, it's he says like you can be
happy for no reason, which became a book in and
of itself with Marcy Steimloff, you know. So it's it's
been a really beautiful journey, which brings me to today,
you know. And you're right when you said I didn't
have to continue, I didn't have to write. But in
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so many ways, I think one of the best ways
we can recover after loss is to search for a
deeper purpose and meaning and also to really drive to
re kind of reignite that love affair you have with
life itself.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
And that's really hard though. That is so hard because
like my husband's I'm going to get this right this time.
My husband's sister not not funny. My husband's sister just
lost her husband in January, yeah, to metastatic melanoma and
it went from a spot here and spread through his
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brain and you know, he passed away. And they are
absolutely devastated. And it's hard to tell people to you know,
it's hard to give any it's just that's such a
terrible thing to have happened, and so tricky. I'm sure
you know that what that feeling.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Is like, Yeah, that first year is really rough. It's
so rough. Yeah, nobody wants to hear that they're going
to feel better or that they're gonna do better. You
don't believe that in that first year. Nobody does. It's
it's a tough Those firsts are very, very difficult, and
and it's devastating. It's it's a devastating loss. Yeah, anybody
(10:27):
that goes through the loss of a child or a spouse,
you know, prematurely, it's it's a horrible experience, there's no doubt.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah. Yeah, I do, like what you just said, search
for a deeper meaning and purpose.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And that comes a little bit later. You know that
that didn't come for me, like right away, I was
just I was just healing. Yeah, you know, but but
after a period of time for me, I mean, it
really helped me to be able to know that I
could for him. And I do think that when we
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start to understand that we live for ourselves, but we
also live for the person that passed, if we carry
them with us, then there's something about that idea that
that helps gives you strength. You know that that you're
you don't have to ever move on from somebody you
love that you've lost, but you carry them forward with you.
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And that's something that I really that really resonated with me.
Nobody said that to me, but I felt it. I
felt that he was with me and that he wanted
me to live my best life. And and I also
had hoped early on that I would return to a
life of joy, but I didn't know. I mean, nobody
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goes through deep, primal, horrible grief feeling like they're going
to return to joy. You just have no idea what
the process is going to do for you and with you.
So but I did find that the path of surrender
was really the halfs that helped me the most, and
that was surrender to what had happened, surrender to what is,
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and surrender to the feelings that would come and the
grief that would come. And I really figured out early
on that the only way out was going to be
all the way in and to allow grief to come
when it came, to not resist it, to be in it,
and then lo and behold. As I allowed myself to
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feel and I allowed myself to cry, I would feel
better each time, and it was an empty I would
build up in my stomach and I'd feel all these
you know, I'd get even stomach aches and cramps. Then
I cry really hard, and then I just feel this
peace come over me and.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Describe it pretty well.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, right, So it's and I think the times that
you resist grief when it's present is that's the time
where it becomes painful, more painful in your body. My
body would just hurt all over when I wasn't crying
when I needed to, or when I was trying to
be strong for my kids, or you know, all the
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just different ways that we resist grief. And then as
soon as I started to learn like, oh, I need
to listen to my body. My body's going to teach
me how to heal, then I really started to make
some deep progress.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah. You know, I think we cling to people who
can articulate grief because it's just the most it's just
something that you just is. So it's so tricky to
articulate the emotion that goes with that. So I just
I appreciate you being a beacon of hope and light
and faith and all those things for people, because I
think you just said a bunch of things that will
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help people, for sure, and I think we also heal
by sharing our stories and things like that. So I
appreciate you sharing that. I know it's and I you know,
people I say, oh, it's it's been this year, ten
years or five years, or I don't care how many
years is it's still hard to articulate and the emotion
is still there. So I just say, it's really important
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to share. But people are afraid to do that. People
are afraid of it because it makes them feel weak, sad, vulnerable,
you know, all of those things.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Well, I think like that's one of the things that
as a culture, we do something very unique that other
cultures don't, And we push the idea of death so
far out, like as if it doesn't exist, and there's
some real drawback to doing that, and it doesn't serve us. Well,
there's a couple of ways it doesn't serve us. Well.
(14:38):
One is that if you are, you know, not at
all thinking about the fact that you have mortality, then
you aren't living as big as you can live. You're
not living in the largest expression that you could be.
And I think one of the things that happens for
many people in LASS is that they start to realize
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that wow, you know, this shows me really very close,
very personally, when death is at your door, it shows
you that your mortality is real and it could happen
anytime to any of us. So it's not a horrible
thing or a morbid thing to actually know that you
will one day die. And that's just the reality that
(15:22):
we all face, you know, and we hope to have full,
long lives, but not everyone has promised a long life.
And certainly my husband was an incredibly vibrant person. He
wasn't ill when he died, but he had a condition
that we didn't know about, and he was a power
through kind of guy, and so you know, he was
(15:43):
experiencing some things that he just didn't pay attention to,
and that's what took his life, you know, suddenly. So
ye kink, it's a good lesson. It's a good lesson
for all of us.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
My co founder, doctor Katie Eastman, has had a Homan
heary embolism. She lived through it, but she's got a
pretty good blood clot situation going on. So I'll be
it'll be nice to connect you on a variety of
levels to doctor Katie.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, she sounds like she lives with lives with her
mortality every day. I mean, and I think that that's
that's that can be a real blessing on some level,
but it's hard. I mean that nobody wants to live
with a momb over their shoulder every day.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
She would have been here, but she's speaking to a
group of therapists, psychologists and so forth, psychiatrists all around
the world in Indonesia tonight at eleven. She's always so,
but I'll make sure and connect you. But it's it's
it's she would have loved to have met you. She's yeah.
So you said something really interesting too about everybody the
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cycle of every ten years people needing your books. I
can't agree with you more. I have a cackle full
of twenty year olds twenty year old boys to call them,
I call them anyway, and they I've put the book
in each of their Christmas stockings once before. Oh yeah, no,
So I'm super familiar with your books and I did
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that same thing. I'm like, oh, here's a book I
read that you'll all like and put it in there.
So I think that's that holds true of that. What
do you think of the self help industry now? Just
curious because it's just like completely exploded, and and everybody's
posting memes about the way you should live, and Instagram's
so bombarded with quotes and memes and and so forth.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
It's well, I mean, I think it's great in the
sense of that there's there's just a lot of people
that are out there that are being positive and putting,
you know, really positive messages out there. And you know,
I mean, I can't you know, I don't have anything
really negative to say. I mean, I think there's there's
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people that are doing it from a place of heart,
and then there's other people. But that's the case with everything,
you know, So it's I think it's it's overall, it's
a very good thing. The more positivity we have in
this world, the better, you know. And I think, yeah,
in the as an author, as a teacher, leader of
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any kind, you've got to kind of niche yourself out
and focus on what your messages and stay true to
what your message is and try to, you know, try
to stay in your own lane. I mean, that's what
I do. I kind of try to not pay attention
to what other people are doing and just keep doing
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what I know that I'm supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
That's finally that's what I do too. Yeah, it's too
noisy and unfocused if you don't just stay in your lane.
I'm like, okay, I got to stay in my lane.
I mean change success.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Everybody dancing around and I think, no, that's not me.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Exactly. I'm the same way. It's like, just stay in
the line. But you know, I agree with you. I
think it's so cool to see all these people have.
You know. I love it when another person will come
up to me and say, you know, I want to
have a book like you do. I want to write
a book. I want to do this, I want to
do that. That's so much fun. What do you do
when people say that to you? I'm sure throughout your
life many I would like to write a book, and
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I'd like to actually have itself too. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I actually actually have a book program called bookdoulas dot
Com that I that I run with my amazing partner,
business partner, Deborah Evans. She's a she's a developmental editor
and I worked with her on my last book, From
Heartbreak to Wholeness, The Hero's Journey to Joy, and about
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five years ago we decided to launch this new business
called book Doulas and oh my gosh, it's been so
much fun. We help lots of people write books, and
we turn lots of books, we help them turn into bestsellers,
so it's been really, really fun. Yeah, if anybody wants
to write a book, you can go to bookdulas dot
(20:01):
com and see what we offer there. It's pretty it's
just been fantastic. Actually, I really love it.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah. I don't want to take up too much of
your time either. And you know, people, we don't usually
do hour shows anymore. We keep them to about thirty
minutes or forty minutes. But I would love for you
to hold up the book again and give us like
a of what's in this book. And if there's anything
personally I forgot about you or anything like that you
want to go back to, let me know, but tell
me about the book. What's in this book?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Well, this is Don't with the Small Stuff every Day
three hundred and sixty five Simple Ways to Live a
life you love. And it's basically a compilation of the
best of the best of the don'ts with the Small
Stuff series. Yeah. So, but then what they've done is
they've taken chapters and edited them down, so it's just
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one page a day. And I love that because I
think when we talk about, you know, helping people create
tools and having tools in their toolkits emotional wellness for
resilient as you know, we have to like remember life
as a practice and how you practice really matters when
when stuff hits the fan and you're going to go
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through something big, your day to day life practice will
really pay great dividends for resilience when you need it.
And so this book is really about having something you
can put your mind on, your intention, your focus on
that's relatable to your relationships with your family, your relationships
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at work, and yourself, you know, how you can take
better care of your own mental health and wellness. And
it's just a thought for the day. It's really beautiful.
And I did the audible book recently. I recorded it.
Much of it's written by my late husband, so it
made me feel so like close to him, you know,
reading reading his words for him. And it's a beautiful,
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you know, compilation of the don'ts about the small Stuff
series really so it's just got a little bit of
everything in it and it's a great book for young
people to be introduced to, you know, the concepts of happiness,
the principles of happiness that we talk about in all
of our series, which are really about understanding how you're
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thinking affects your moods and your feelings, knowing that people
are living through separate realities, and also how to live presently.
So all of these things are really kind of jam
packed in every you know, in every Don't Sweat book.
But yeah, it's going to be, I think, a really
great book for young people especially to just sort of
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introduce them to some concepts and get them kind of
into a more consciousness place of study.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, very needed, right now? Do Okay, So in every marriage,
there's when you write a book, the other person is
reading the book, editing the book, and so forth. How
much of the original book is your writing, your editing,
your Well.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Interestingly, they took from four books, I believe from when
I read it, And they took from Don't Sweitt the
Small Stuff in Love, Don't Sweat the Small Stuff for Women,
Don't Sweitt the Small Stuff with your Family, and Don't
Sweitt the Small Stuff at Work, and then the flagship
book five books. So they just took you know, they
I really just edited. I didn't really do you know,
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a lot of new stuff. I wrote an introduction for
this book. But but yeah, I think it was really powerful,
the way they shortened everything down so that it's just
a thought for the day.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Go back to you in kindergarten? Who are you in
kindergarten and growing up?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Like?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Where'd you grow up? Is this what you wanted to
be when you grew up? Did you want to do
books and things like that or did you have something
else in mind? Wow?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
You know kindergarten. Wow, I was really I was really
jealous of my beautiful blonde hair neighbor girlfriend Debbie. She
had long blonde hair and I had a short pixie haircut.
And in kindergarten, I was lethally jealous of that hair.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
That's familiar. I had red short hair. I think I
even had like almost like a red like almost like
a mulldy thing even, you know, just kind of grown up.
But it wouldn't be or something.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, but uh no, No, I didn't really know I
would ever be an author. I was always like a poet, like,
I loved writing, but I never really aspired to be
an author. That would have been kind of too big
of a dream for me. I think I didn't honestly
didn't really know what I would do. Even when I
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got to college. I had gotten an academic scholarship to
Pepperdine University, and that's where I met my husband. I
was eighteen and he was twenty and I honestly, I
mean I was at Pepperdine and the way I chose
my major was I was like, oh, I got to
get out of this math class.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
That's how I chose frying too. I've never heard anybody
anything but math and science, please, working full time and
trying to go to school full time, Like I'm just
trying to get a degree here.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, those communications was like, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
That works. Anything but math, Oh my god. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
And I don't even think, I mean, yeah, I think
I didn't really aspire to being an author until Richard.
I did a lot of things. I mean, I had
a career in graphic design and marketing and the business.
But I didn't aspire to being an author until Richard
invited me to write Don't Sweet the Small Stuff in
Love with him, and then he asked me to write
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Don't Sweat the Small Stuff for Women, so which I
did both of those books. You know, that was my
first solo book, but the Love Book was really fun
for us to write together.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Who's out? Okay, so if you don't know Mel, that's
mail the podcast Kitty.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah, she only comes out if she loves you. So
she must love your voice or something. Yeah, she's she's
seven hundred shows. Now she'll go on. Now they said
her name, she might she's are old hat that we
rescued and it's in my office and she's twenty two
years old.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Oh my gosh, Wow, she's moving pretty good for twenty two.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
She's an amazing cat. So great when you said that,
it's cute.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
So anything but math. And so if you're like me,
so I have all scientists kids, math experts, science experts like,
oh my goodness, gracious, seriously, so did you ever have
a child? Going? Can you help me with my math?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Oh? Yeah, I mean, I I mean I figure. I've
always told my girls what you need to know is
twenty percent off. You need to know gross versus net
sales and twenty percent off.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
No, I just sit in geometry and vocal. I'd be like,
I am never using this. I'm like the only thing
I'm ever going to use this for is to measure carpet,
like if I need new carpet, I'm never using this.
And he's the geometry teacher would be like, yeah, you
have to be in here, you have to take this class.
It's required, and I can actually I'm actually good at math,
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like I can actually do math. I just hate it,
so I would not pay attention in class and I'd
be like, just give me the test. And then I
got actually accused one time of cheating on the test.
I'm like, I had to take a.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Test, so well, yeah I did, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Of course, right. I had to take the test supervised
in front of like the principal's office, because I would
I refuse to turn a homework. I'm like, just give
me the test. I hate this class. I'm never going
to use it. I hear it. I can comprehend it,
just the But I agree with you, twenty percent off
much better math. If you want me to learn math.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
If you know a twenty percent off percent off, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
That's perfect, perfect perfect, Okay. Oh anyway, all right, well,
it has been fabulous to get to know you and
to thank you for your time and all your energy
and all your great humor. Oh yeah, I can't wait
to just keep getting to know you. But I just
want to say, what, you know, I'm glad you did
this book. I think it's so needed and it's going
(28:21):
to be so much fun, and our whole best ever
network will get behind you. Thank you. You just need us.
I mean you're already, you are already, but it's fun
to have purpose and get behind because our group gets
behind books and authors pretty well.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Oh I love that. Thank you so much. Well, you know,
every every book that you have come out, you you always,
you know, are so appreciative of anybody that's going to
talk about it. So right, yeah, right right.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
But Hi, you just met me. Could you write a
review on Amazon for me?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Exactly? Those more important too write?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
It's funny anyway, all right, Christine, I'm gonna just tell
everybody your website some more time, Christine Carlson dot com
and don't sweat every day dot com hold up the
book one more time, just so yeah, you can go.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
If you want to read more about our story, you
can go to don't Sweat dot com as well.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yeah, don't sweat every day dot com And don't would
you say don't.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Sweat don't sweat dot com yeah, you got.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Them all right.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
If you want to write a book, go to book
dealers dot com.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
That's a big one, I think people I'm going to
look at that. I'm like, oh wow, you know how
to because sometimes we put books out, like I have
a new I'm gonna show you this. I'll probably cut here,
but I have a I have a new book out
that I love that very lucky Ladybug. Love that dedicated
to Catherine and Frank who lost their husband and father.
(29:43):
And basically she loses her spots. The Ladybug loses her
spots and her friends hold on, I'll get to it.
Her friends painamal back on. I love that a little thing. Ever,
I just have this like this idea for a book
and myself, so I i'd a fiver artist. I don't
usually do kids books.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
But I love that. I want to write. I want
to write it. Don'ts with the small stuff for kids? Kids?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
You should for sure? Yeah yeah, but anyway, yeah, she
loses all our spots one day and they paint them
back on. But but yeah, their book books are hard,
aren't they. You don't know what they're going to do.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
It's like, yeah, you don't know, and and a lot
of it's just what's going on in the world and
what's happening trend wise, and you know where people are at.
So yeah, but I do think that don'ts with the
small stuff is very relevant today with as much stress
as people are under. And I think the beautiful thing
is that in this world where it is so there's
all the shiny new things, it's it's really nice to
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visit the old, tried and true because the old, tried
and true has proven and there's probably about one hundred
million people that have read our books by now, so
it's it's it's definitely tried and true wisdom.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah, I'm right behind you, like fifty thousand, just kidding.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Hey, if you got it good, that's good.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
That's good, that's brilliant. But we're getting there.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, you're getting there.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Break through moments. Okay, where can people find you in
social media? Or are you not on there?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Like oh yeah, no, no, I have social media. So
Christine Underscore Carlson is my handle for Instagram, Christine Carlson
on Facebook, Don't Sweat This, Don't I think it's Don't
Sweat the Small Stuff page on Facebook. Yeah, I'm all over.
(31:30):
So you can you can probably just go to my
website and find those handles too perfect.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
All right, well, it's been great to have you. Thank
you for being on the best ever You show.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Thank you. Can't wait to promote this to my audience
to be really much.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
All right, everybody, thank you for being here with us
here on the best ever You show. Remember we are
so grassroots and Husband's funded. It's scary. I always say
that grassroots and husband funded, and it's it's hilarious. I
don't do any advertising coming up on almost six million
downloads now, so I love it when you guys get
(32:05):
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I'm not positive, but for twenty twenty four, so not positive.
(32:26):
Maybe one more, maybe two more, I'm not sure. But anyway,
you guys know what to do. All right, Thank you everybody, Bye,
Thank you,
Hi, everybody, Welcome to the Best Ever You Show. I'm
Elizabeth here with the amazing best selling author Christine Carlson.
How are you. I'm losing my already. Look at that, Elizabeth.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
It's so good to see you.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Yeah, we were joking before we went on. I've got
you know, everybody knows that. So I'm fifty five now,
and so I have one thing that's hot for when
i'm cold. So this is coffee, and the other thing
if I turn beat red in the middle of the conversation,
this is ice water hot.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yeah. Yeah, I've been through that. I'm sixty one, so
I went through that a long time.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Ago, just the worst. So, yeah, you turn beat red
all of a sudden, it's like no, no, no, nothing's wrong.
Just to hot flash. Everybody patha freezer.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
You stand at the freezer for a really long time.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
My husband's fiance is here and I was saying, does
your mom have this? And she goes, yeah, she just
goes outside in the you know, in the winter time
or whatever when they have it.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Is your husband's fiance.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
No, I dn't just say that. Okay, we're gonna put that.
I haven't got my I'm gonna start that over my
son's fiance, my husband.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I don't know about that. I've ever heard that one.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I guess polygamy is a real thing.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Oh no, no, okay, So my son's fiance is here,
and I asked her about her mom if she has
hot flashes all the time, because we're about the same age,
and she says she just goes outside in the wintertime.
But I'm pretty that's pretty funny. I'm like, yeah, I
just go stand outside and here in Maine, so anyway.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Because men like at night they went there, They're like
all suddenly, what all the covers and then women are
throwing the covers offying.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
My mom bought me. My mom was funny, right, she
bought me this portable fan that goes around your neck
and just fans the whole time. Cool air. I'm like,
that's pretty funny. That's pretty funny. Boy.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
That sounds good though, right.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
The boys are like this actually works, mom. So anyway,
all right, all kidding the side, because I love you know,
I love your books. There. You know, you are the
author and co author of Don't Sweat the Small Stuff,
the book series, and you have a new book out
that's in pre order called Don't Sweat the Small Stuff
every Day. Yeah, right off of that, Yeah, there it
is Don't Sweat the Small Stuff every Day. So everybody
(02:19):
can go to Don't Sweat Everyday dot com or Christinecarlson
dot com. The books available for pre order, and I
just want to tell everybody that we're going to do
some giveaways on best ever You dot com. And what
else were we going to do? I think that we
have coupons and things like that for your store.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, I've a Don't Sweat Good store. So there's just
everything from coffee mugs to wendsies and T shirts. They're
all really high quality things. And I'm give you forty
percent off coupon for the holidays.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
So all right, So this is our first time at
Best ever You interviewing you. So let's just sit back
and listen, because it sounds like you've got a lot
of things going on with like women's retreats, books, all
the stuff. Just tell us a little bit about where
where you want our audience to go other than pre ordering.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Oh yeah, well, I mean should we just talk about
just share the stories and all that stuff first?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
And then it would be so nice, Yeah, to like
how have we arrived at this point. You have a
new book out you know, you certainly wouldn't have to
have a book out right if you didn't want to.
So you have a passion for self help and helping
helping people, and I know you've got a lot of
expertise with the other books you've written about grief and loss.
So yeah, start where we want because this is gonna
(03:36):
be an introduction for everybody to meet you.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah. Well, hopefully your audience is familiar with it. Don't
Sweit a Small Stuff book series, It's been around for
a long time. My husband and I, my late husband
and I were really kind of pioneers right after the
Wayne Dyer, that kind of first group of psychologists. We
were kind of pioneers in the personal development space, especially Richard.
(04:02):
He was a doctor, Richard Carlson, psychologist himself, and he
wrote Don't with the Small Stuff in nineteen ninety seven.
And it was during a time where the world was
really kind of that we were entering into a high
technology phase. That was when dot com was coming out,
(04:23):
dot Com, dot bom. That was when, you know, we
hadn't entered the social media stage, but it was coming
and people surprisingly were very overwhelmed by technology, and so
Don't What the Small Stuff really hit a chord, not
just in America, but in every country around the world.
So that book sat on the New York Times for
(04:47):
over one hundred weeks and the number one spot and
sold millions of copies its first year. And it was
different than my husband's other books. That was his tenth book,
and so it was a different a totally different structure.
He chose that short chapter structure. Yeah, and it was
(05:08):
a crazy time for us, super fun, super amazing, super busy.
We had young kids at the time, young family, so
of course I was homesweating the small Stuff with our
kids while he was out on the road doing interviews.
And then at the tenth anniversary of Don't Sweat the
Small Stuff, like about a week before our lives changed
(05:32):
in a really dramatic turn, Richard stood at the counter
and he was saying, you know what's really cool about
the Don't Sweat the Small Stuff series, Because by that
time we had like, I don't know, seven or eight
books in the series. And I said what, and he's like, well,
it's pretty cool because every ten years there's a whole
new group of people that are sweating the small stuff
(05:54):
and that we'll need these books. And it turns out
he was right. And about a week later after we
had that conversation, my husband got on a flight to
New York to promote his latest book, and on the
descent of that flight, he had a pulmonary embolism that
took his life. And he was forty five, I was
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forty three, and our kids were in high school. And yeah,
it was a shock, and it completely shattered our lives.
And so it sent me on a totally different trajectory
of healing, healing, you know, my going through loss and
(06:37):
going through grief, and I really just found the whole
process just both absolutely beautiful and also absolutely terrifying. And
so I began to sort of witness myself going through
loss and started to keep a journal because I felt
like journaling in the early morning would take up that
(07:00):
time that he and I used to spend together having
coffee and you know, just strategizing about books, about life,
about everything. And out of my journal came, you know,
quite an awakening that I went through, and I wrote
the book Heartbroken, Open a memoir through loss to self discovery,
(07:22):
and started a whole new kind of path, and then
I was asked to write Don't Sweat the Small Stuff
for moms. So a couple of years after I'd been
really in the grief creating circles for women, just doing
all sorts of things, I kind of switched gears and
(07:44):
I didn't leave that conversation, but I went back to
the Don't Sweat the Small Stuff series and I wrote
a new book in the series, and it was great,
and it was a really amazing experience. And then the
series has just been going on. You know, it's just
been continuing on. It's a tried and true kind of
(08:05):
philosophy that sort of kind of paved the way for
a lot of people entering the personal development space as leaders.
Most a lot of leaders will tell you Don's what
the Small Stuff was one of the first books self
help books they read. And you know, it was beautiful
because now I see how Richard was really a pioneer
(08:26):
in the field of mindfulness and psychology and in the
field of positive psychology. Those terms weren't even out there
when he began writing about happiness. He was one of
the very first authors to ever write a book with
happiness in the title, and it was called you Can
Be Happy no Matter What, And in the first paragraph
(08:48):
of that book, it's he says like you can be
happy for no reason, which became a book in and
of itself with Marcy Steimloff, you know. So it's it's
been a really beautiful journey, which brings me to today,
you know. And you're right when you said I didn't
have to continue, I didn't have to write. But in
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so many ways, I think one of the best ways
we can recover after loss is to search for a
deeper purpose and meaning and also to really drive to
re kind of reignite that love affair you have with
life itself.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
And that's really hard though. That is so hard because
like my husband's I'm going to get this right this time.
My husband's sister not not funny. My husband's sister just
lost her husband in January, yeah, to metastatic melanoma and
it went from a spot here and spread through his
(09:48):
brain and you know, he passed away. And they are
absolutely devastated. And it's hard to tell people to you know,
it's hard to give any it's just that's such a
terrible thing to have happened, and so tricky. I'm sure
you know that what that feeling.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Is like, Yeah, that first year is really rough. It's
so rough. Yeah, nobody wants to hear that they're going
to feel better or that they're gonna do better. You
don't believe that in that first year. Nobody does. It's
it's a tough Those firsts are very, very difficult, and
and it's devastating. It's it's a devastating loss. Yeah, anybody
(10:27):
that goes through the loss of a child or a spouse,
you know, prematurely, it's it's a horrible experience, there's no doubt.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah. Yeah, I do, like what you just said, search
for a deeper meaning and purpose.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And that comes a little bit later. You know that
that didn't come for me, like right away, I was
just I was just healing. Yeah, you know, but but
after a period of time for me, I mean, it
really helped me to be able to know that I
could for him. And I do think that when we
(11:02):
start to understand that we live for ourselves, but we
also live for the person that passed, if we carry
them with us, then there's something about that idea that
that helps gives you strength. You know that that you're
you don't have to ever move on from somebody you
love that you've lost, but you carry them forward with you.
(11:24):
And that's something that I really that really resonated with me.
Nobody said that to me, but I felt it. I
felt that he was with me and that he wanted
me to live my best life. And and I also
had hoped early on that I would return to a
life of joy, but I didn't know. I mean, nobody
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goes through deep, primal, horrible grief feeling like they're going
to return to joy. You just have no idea what
the process is going to do for you and with you.
So but I did find that the path of surrender
was really the halfs that helped me the most, and
that was surrender to what had happened, surrender to what is,
(12:06):
and surrender to the feelings that would come and the
grief that would come. And I really figured out early
on that the only way out was going to be
all the way in and to allow grief to come
when it came, to not resist it, to be in it,
and then lo and behold. As I allowed myself to
(12:27):
feel and I allowed myself to cry, I would feel
better each time, and it was an empty I would
build up in my stomach and I'd feel all these
you know, I'd get even stomach aches and cramps. Then
I cry really hard, and then I just feel this
peace come over me and.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Describe it pretty well.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, right, So it's and I think the times that
you resist grief when it's present is that's the time
where it becomes painful, more painful in your body. My
body would just hurt all over when I wasn't crying
when I needed to, or when I was trying to
be strong for my kids, or you know, all the
(13:08):
just different ways that we resist grief. And then as
soon as I started to learn like, oh, I need
to listen to my body. My body's going to teach
me how to heal, then I really started to make
some deep progress.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah. You know, I think we cling to people who
can articulate grief because it's just the most it's just
something that you just is. So it's so tricky to
articulate the emotion that goes with that. So I just
I appreciate you being a beacon of hope and light
and faith and all those things for people, because I
think you just said a bunch of things that will
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help people, for sure, and I think we also heal
by sharing our stories and things like that. So I
appreciate you sharing that. I know it's and I you know,
people I say, oh, it's it's been this year, ten
years or five years, or I don't care how many
years is it's still hard to articulate and the emotion
is still there. So I just say, it's really important
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to share. But people are afraid to do that. People
are afraid of it because it makes them feel weak, sad, vulnerable,
you know, all of those things.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Well, I think like that's one of the things that
as a culture, we do something very unique that other
cultures don't, And we push the idea of death so
far out, like as if it doesn't exist, and there's
some real drawback to doing that, and it doesn't serve us. Well,
there's a couple of ways it doesn't serve us. Well.
(14:38):
One is that if you are, you know, not at
all thinking about the fact that you have mortality, then
you aren't living as big as you can live. You're
not living in the largest expression that you could be.
And I think one of the things that happens for
many people in LASS is that they start to realize
(15:01):
that wow, you know, this shows me really very close,
very personally, when death is at your door, it shows
you that your mortality is real and it could happen
anytime to any of us. So it's not a horrible
thing or a morbid thing to actually know that you
will one day die. And that's just the reality that
(15:22):
we all face, you know, and we hope to have full,
long lives, but not everyone has promised a long life.
And certainly my husband was an incredibly vibrant person. He
wasn't ill when he died, but he had a condition
that we didn't know about, and he was a power
through kind of guy, and so you know, he was
(15:43):
experiencing some things that he just didn't pay attention to,
and that's what took his life, you know, suddenly. So
ye kink, it's a good lesson. It's a good lesson
for all of us.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
My co founder, doctor Katie Eastman, has had a Homan
heary embolism. She lived through it, but she's got a
pretty good blood clot situation going on. So I'll be
it'll be nice to connect you on a variety of
levels to doctor Katie.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, she sounds like she lives with lives with her
mortality every day. I mean, and I think that that's
that's that can be a real blessing on some level,
but it's hard. I mean that nobody wants to live
with a momb over their shoulder every day.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
She would have been here, but she's speaking to a
group of therapists, psychologists and so forth, psychiatrists all around
the world in Indonesia tonight at eleven. She's always so,
but I'll make sure and connect you. But it's it's
it's she would have loved to have met you. She's yeah.
So you said something really interesting too about everybody the
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cycle of every ten years people needing your books. I
can't agree with you more. I have a cackle full
of twenty year olds twenty year old boys to call them,
I call them anyway, and they I've put the book
in each of their Christmas stockings once before. Oh yeah, no,
So I'm super familiar with your books and I did
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that same thing. I'm like, oh, here's a book I
read that you'll all like and put it in there.
So I think that's that holds true of that. What
do you think of the self help industry now? Just
curious because it's just like completely exploded, and and everybody's
posting memes about the way you should live, and Instagram's
so bombarded with quotes and memes and and so forth.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
It's well, I mean, I think it's great in the
sense of that there's there's just a lot of people
that are out there that are being positive and putting,
you know, really positive messages out there. And you know,
I mean, I can't you know, I don't have anything
really negative to say. I mean, I think there's there's
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people that are doing it from a place of heart,
and then there's other people. But that's the case with everything,
you know, So it's I think it's it's overall, it's
a very good thing. The more positivity we have in
this world, the better, you know. And I think, yeah,
in the as an author, as a teacher, leader of
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any kind, you've got to kind of niche yourself out
and focus on what your messages and stay true to
what your message is and try to, you know, try
to stay in your own lane. I mean, that's what
I do. I kind of try to not pay attention
to what other people are doing and just keep doing
(18:36):
what I know that I'm supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
That's finally that's what I do too. Yeah, it's too
noisy and unfocused if you don't just stay in your lane.
I'm like, okay, I got to stay in my lane.
I mean change success.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Everybody dancing around and I think, no, that's not me.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Exactly. I'm the same way. It's like, just stay in
the line. But you know, I agree with you. I
think it's so cool to see all these people have.
You know. I love it when another person will come
up to me and say, you know, I want to
have a book like you do. I want to write
a book. I want to do this, I want to
do that. That's so much fun. What do you do
when people say that to you? I'm sure throughout your
life many I would like to write a book, and
(19:17):
I'd like to actually have itself too. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I actually actually have a book program called bookdoulas dot
Com that I that I run with my amazing partner,
business partner, Deborah Evans. She's a she's a developmental editor
and I worked with her on my last book, From
Heartbreak to Wholeness, The Hero's Journey to Joy, and about
(19:40):
five years ago we decided to launch this new business
called book Doulas and oh my gosh, it's been so
much fun. We help lots of people write books, and
we turn lots of books, we help them turn into bestsellers,
so it's been really, really fun. Yeah, if anybody wants
to write a book, you can go to bookdulas dot
(20:01):
com and see what we offer there. It's pretty it's
just been fantastic. Actually, I really love it.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah. I don't want to take up too much of
your time either. And you know, people, we don't usually
do hour shows anymore. We keep them to about thirty
minutes or forty minutes. But I would love for you
to hold up the book again and give us like
a of what's in this book. And if there's anything
personally I forgot about you or anything like that you
want to go back to, let me know, but tell
me about the book. What's in this book?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Well, this is Don't with the Small Stuff every Day
three hundred and sixty five Simple Ways to Live a
life you love. And it's basically a compilation of the
best of the best of the don'ts with the Small
Stuff series. Yeah. So, but then what they've done is
they've taken chapters and edited them down, so it's just
(20:47):
one page a day. And I love that because I
think when we talk about, you know, helping people create
tools and having tools in their toolkits emotional wellness for
resilient as you know, we have to like remember life
as a practice and how you practice really matters when
when stuff hits the fan and you're going to go
(21:10):
through something big, your day to day life practice will
really pay great dividends for resilience when you need it.
And so this book is really about having something you
can put your mind on, your intention, your focus on
that's relatable to your relationships with your family, your relationships
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at work, and yourself, you know, how you can take
better care of your own mental health and wellness. And
it's just a thought for the day. It's really beautiful.
And I did the audible book recently. I recorded it.
Much of it's written by my late husband, so it
made me feel so like close to him, you know,
reading reading his words for him. And it's a beautiful,
(21:56):
you know, compilation of the don'ts about the small Stuff
series really so it's just got a little bit of
everything in it and it's a great book for young
people to be introduced to, you know, the concepts of happiness,
the principles of happiness that we talk about in all
of our series, which are really about understanding how you're
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thinking affects your moods and your feelings, knowing that people
are living through separate realities, and also how to live presently.
So all of these things are really kind of jam
packed in every you know, in every Don't Sweat book.
But yeah, it's going to be, I think, a really
great book for young people especially to just sort of
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introduce them to some concepts and get them kind of
into a more consciousness place of study.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, very needed, right now? Do Okay, So in every marriage,
there's when you write a book, the other person is
reading the book, editing the book, and so forth. How
much of the original book is your writing, your editing,
your Well.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Interestingly, they took from four books, I believe from when
I read it, And they took from Don't Sweitt the
Small Stuff in Love, Don't Sweat the Small Stuff for Women,
Don't Sweitt the Small Stuff with your Family, and Don't
Sweitt the Small Stuff at Work, and then the flagship
book five books. So they just took you know, they
I really just edited. I didn't really do you know,
(23:33):
a lot of new stuff. I wrote an introduction for
this book. But but yeah, I think it was really powerful,
the way they shortened everything down so that it's just
a thought for the day.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Go back to you in kindergarten? Who are you in
kindergarten and growing up?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Like?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Where'd you grow up? Is this what you wanted to
be when you grew up? Did you want to do
books and things like that or did you have something
else in mind? Wow?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
You know kindergarten. Wow, I was really I was really
jealous of my beautiful blonde hair neighbor girlfriend Debbie. She
had long blonde hair and I had a short pixie haircut.
And in kindergarten, I was lethally jealous of that hair.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
That's familiar. I had red short hair. I think I
even had like almost like a red like almost like
a mulldy thing even, you know, just kind of grown up.
But it wouldn't be or something.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, but uh no, No, I didn't really know I
would ever be an author. I was always like a poet, like,
I loved writing, but I never really aspired to be
an author. That would have been kind of too big
of a dream for me. I think I didn't honestly
didn't really know what I would do. Even when I
(24:47):
got to college. I had gotten an academic scholarship to
Pepperdine University, and that's where I met my husband. I
was eighteen and he was twenty and I honestly, I
mean I was at Pepperdine and the way I chose
my major was I was like, oh, I got to
get out of this math class.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
That's how I chose frying too. I've never heard anybody
anything but math and science, please, working full time and
trying to go to school full time, Like I'm just
trying to get a degree here.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, those communications was like, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
That works. Anything but math, Oh my god. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
And I don't even think, I mean, yeah, I think
I didn't really aspire to being an author until Richard.
I did a lot of things. I mean, I had
a career in graphic design and marketing and the business.
But I didn't aspire to being an author until Richard
invited me to write Don't Sweet the Small Stuff in
Love with him, and then he asked me to write
(25:52):
Don't Sweat the Small Stuff for Women, so which I
did both of those books. You know, that was my
first solo book, but the Love Book was really fun
for us to write together.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Who's out? Okay, so if you don't know Mel, that's
mail the podcast Kitty.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah, she only comes out if she loves you. So
she must love your voice or something. Yeah, she's she's
seven hundred shows. Now she'll go on. Now they said
her name, she might she's are old hat that we
rescued and it's in my office and she's twenty two
years old.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Oh my gosh, Wow, she's moving pretty good for twenty two.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
She's an amazing cat. So great when you said that,
it's cute.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
So anything but math. And so if you're like me,
so I have all scientists kids, math experts, science experts like,
oh my goodness, gracious, seriously, so did you ever have
a child? Going? Can you help me with my math?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Oh? Yeah, I mean, I I mean I figure. I've
always told my girls what you need to know is
twenty percent off. You need to know gross versus net
sales and twenty percent off.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
No, I just sit in geometry and vocal. I'd be like,
I am never using this. I'm like the only thing
I'm ever going to use this for is to measure carpet,
like if I need new carpet, I'm never using this.
And he's the geometry teacher would be like, yeah, you
have to be in here, you have to take this class.
It's required, and I can actually I'm actually good at math,
(27:25):
like I can actually do math. I just hate it,
so I would not pay attention in class and I'd
be like, just give me the test. And then I
got actually accused one time of cheating on the test.
I'm like, I had to take a.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Test, so well, yeah I did, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Of course, right. I had to take the test supervised
in front of like the principal's office, because I would
I refuse to turn a homework. I'm like, just give
me the test. I hate this class. I'm never going
to use it. I hear it. I can comprehend it,
just the But I agree with you, twenty percent off
much better math. If you want me to learn math.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
If you know a twenty percent off percent off, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
That's perfect, perfect perfect, Okay. Oh anyway, all right, well,
it has been fabulous to get to know you and
to thank you for your time and all your energy
and all your great humor. Oh yeah, I can't wait
to just keep getting to know you. But I just
want to say, what, you know, I'm glad you did
this book. I think it's so needed and it's going
(28:21):
to be so much fun, and our whole best ever
network will get behind you. Thank you. You just need us.
I mean you're already, you are already, but it's fun
to have purpose and get behind because our group gets
behind books and authors pretty well.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Oh I love that. Thank you so much. Well, you know,
every every book that you have come out, you you always,
you know, are so appreciative of anybody that's going to
talk about it. So right, yeah, right right.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
But Hi, you just met me. Could you write a
review on Amazon for me?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Exactly? Those more important too write?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
It's funny anyway, all right, Christine, I'm gonna just tell
everybody your website some more time, Christine Carlson dot com
and don't sweat every day dot com hold up the
book one more time, just so yeah, you can go.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
If you want to read more about our story, you
can go to don't Sweat dot com as well.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yeah, don't sweat every day dot com And don't would
you say don't.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Sweat don't sweat dot com yeah, you got.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Them all right.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
If you want to write a book, go to book
dealers dot com.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
That's a big one, I think people I'm going to
look at that. I'm like, oh wow, you know how
to because sometimes we put books out, like I have
a new I'm gonna show you this. I'll probably cut here,
but I have a I have a new book out
that I love that very lucky Ladybug. Love that dedicated
to Catherine and Frank who lost their husband and father.
(29:43):
And basically she loses her spots. The Ladybug loses her
spots and her friends hold on, I'll get to it.
Her friends painamal back on. I love that a little thing. Ever,
I just have this like this idea for a book
and myself, so I i'd a fiver artist. I don't
usually do kids books.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
But I love that. I want to write. I want
to write it. Don'ts with the small stuff for kids? Kids?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
You should for sure? Yeah yeah, but anyway, yeah, she
loses all our spots one day and they paint them
back on. But but yeah, their book books are hard,
aren't they. You don't know what they're going to do.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
It's like, yeah, you don't know, and and a lot
of it's just what's going on in the world and
what's happening trend wise, and you know where people are at.
So yeah, but I do think that don'ts with the
small stuff is very relevant today with as much stress
as people are under. And I think the beautiful thing
is that in this world where it is so there's
all the shiny new things, it's it's really nice to
(30:40):
visit the old, tried and true because the old, tried
and true has proven and there's probably about one hundred
million people that have read our books by now, so
it's it's it's definitely tried and true wisdom.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah, I'm right behind you, like fifty thousand, just kidding.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Hey, if you got it good, that's good.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
That's good, that's brilliant. But we're getting there.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, you're getting there.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Break through moments. Okay, where can people find you in
social media? Or are you not on there?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Like oh yeah, no, no, I have social media. So
Christine Underscore Carlson is my handle for Instagram, Christine Carlson
on Facebook, Don't Sweat This, Don't I think it's Don't
Sweat the Small Stuff page on Facebook. Yeah, I'm all over.
(31:30):
So you can you can probably just go to my
website and find those handles too perfect.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
All right, well, it's been great to have you. Thank
you for being on the best ever You show.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Thank you. Can't wait to promote this to my audience
to be really much.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
All right, everybody, thank you for being here with us
here on the best ever You show. Remember we are
so grassroots and Husband's funded. It's scary. I always say
that grassroots and husband funded, and it's it's hilarious. I
don't do any advertising coming up on almost six million
downloads now, so I love it when you guys get
(32:05):
a hold of the shows and embrace the authors and
the books and all that stuff. So keep doing what
you're doing. We moved over to iHeartRadio and Spreaker, so
we have a new home because we grew, so we're
all excited about that. And just keep following us. This
might be the last show I do for twenty twenty five,
I'm not positive, but for twenty twenty four, so not positive.
(32:26):
Maybe one more, maybe two more, I'm not sure. But anyway,
you guys know what to do. All right, Thank you everybody, Bye,
Thank you,
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