October 16, 2024 • 48 mins
Welcome to the Real Life Podcast with Elizabeth Hamilton-Guarino and Dr. Katie Eastman. This self-help podcast series focuses on self-help discussions about topics related to gratitude, change, success, compassion and peace. We're here to help you Percolate Peace. There are changes and transitions that challenge all of us. Think of this as tools for your best life toolbox, so that when you need to reach within to navigate something in your life, you have resources and have been taught how to chart a course forward. Each hour-long audio segment offers stories and lessons learned by us and people who have overcome these challenges and practical ways for you to manage these stressors in your own life. Dr. Katie Eastman and Elizabeth Hamilton-Guarino, CMC are the authors of the bestselling book Percolate-Let Your Best Self Filter Through which was published by Hay House in 2014. Dr. Eastman is also the author of Uplifting. Elizabeth is the author of The Change Guidebook and The Success Guidebook. Learn more about DrKatieEastman.com, BestEverYou.com and ElizabethGuarino.com
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi everybody, and welcome to the Real Life Podcast. I'm
Elizabeth here with doctor Katie Eastman. How are you.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
How's the week. I'm doing well. I have been just
dealing with life, you know, real life stuff.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah, yeah, oh, I hear you. Well, I think that's
the feedback that we got. So we did our first
show last week, not knowing what people were gonna say
or do, and it turns out about one thousand plus
people watched, and so we got some really good comments.
And you know, that's what we're here to be is
relatable to your real life, which we've got plenty of,
(00:37):
plenty of things brewing in the in the background of
our real lives. I don't know about you, but it was.
It's been a busy week. We had Cam Cam come home.
Cam and Olivia come home from Germany. They've Cam's been
over in Germany playing baseball for the year. I don't
know if I've mentioned this or not, but they were
at his uh they were at her family's house for
(00:58):
a while after they got back another here and so
I've got my They went to Starbucks for me and
got me a mug from Germany and not yes cute.
So anyway, yeah, but a hand formward.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
It's not about you.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
But it's forty some degrees. I'm freezing, so oh yeah,
it's it started to rain this morning. I live in
the Northwest, as you know, and of course we just
dread the rain. But it comes and you just get
used to it and you snuggle of snuggle up because
that's what you do when you can't change something, you
figure out how to deal with it. Yeah, you do.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
And it's snowing up in the mountains here, so oh wow. Yeah,
it's a little early for snow for me. But anyway,
so how about so in the background, I'm trying to
tell everybody kind of what we've been doing. We've been
writing a new book Proposal, which has been fun to
kind of go through and stuff like that. But as
we were writing, and who knows what's going to happen
(01:54):
with it, We don't know, We have no idea, but
we're working on it right we're putting our best effort forward.
But I said, oh my god, we gotta hold on
tight to a dream. You gotta listen to this song
Katie by Electric Light Orchestra. I love the song hold
On Tight to your Dreams, and you're like, oh goodness,
I wanted to play it, and I'm like, I don't
know if we have the right or whatever. So I
was gonna play it right now. I'm like, I'll just
(02:15):
skip it. Yes, but you apparently have an Eyello story.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Oh, I have a great Yello story. So I was
in high school and I was believing or not, sitting
by this really beautiful swimming place that a lot of
people went to. It was a quarry, and I was reading,
of all things, the Bible, and this guy comes up
and he goes, oh, you're reading the Bible. He goes,
oh Jesus, he's a good shit and I went what.
(02:44):
I was like, he's a what? And so we had
this great conversation. But long story short, we ended up
going to an Ello concert in Montreal and he ended
up staying at the border because he brought a little
something with them that you're not supposed to bring across
the border. And the rest of us were like, you
(03:06):
dumb idiot. You know, and I mean nobody, you don't
do that with going across any border, and this fool
did it. And we were like, see, we're going to
the concert. I don't know you of that, but it
was pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
It was like yeah Jesus, yeah, well yeah, so anyway,
electric Light. So I keep putting Electric Light Orchestra on
my Instagram and the kids there's kids like.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
What song is that? What song is that?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, it's a great song and it was a great concert.
But I will just never forget meeting that. And it's
just so that's so real life. You meet people and
they come into your life and you have these interesting
conversations with you and you might do something with them,
and then they're out of your life and didn't come
(04:01):
in for a reason, spent time with you. But onward
you go and you know, anyway, it was one of
my fun stories of VLO.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah that's great. So what else is happening over there?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Well, you know, I think one of the things that
you and I wanted to talk about today is health
and real life health stuff that happens. And as a woman,
a lot of women don't talk about what's really going on.
So I had a conversation with a friend and it
was a really enlightening conversation because she's young, she's your age,
(04:35):
and she was really distraught because she was newly diagnosed
with some hereditary conditions that she just feels way too
young to have. Yeah, and she's in incredible health, she's
an athlete. There are all kinds of things that would say,
why am I getting this? And it really begged the
(04:57):
question for everyone to consider. It's like, well, what do
you do when those diagnoses come up, because they do
as you get older, and how do you handle it?
And we had this great conversation about you know, yeah,
we had the part of saying, this really sucks and
I have chronic pain that I have different times, and
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she has stuff, and we just said, you know, at
least we have the information. You can look at a
health diagnosis as I have new information that my body's
giving me that tells me that I need to address something.
What if we didn't get the information. That's what our
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mothers went through. Excuse me, I didn't have the information
we have. They got diagnosed with stuff that they couldn't
turn around. Well, we have lots of time and they
didn't have it. And so we really talked about how
important it is that at a very young age you
start having medical appointments and you start learning about your
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medical history and you don't take it for granted. And
when stuff comes up that you take the attitude of okay,
well what can I do about it? And you know,
you whine and complain for I do this. I have
a wine. Yeah, I set the timer. I say, okay,
I got twenty four hours to whine, and I like
(06:23):
feel sorry for myself, and I argue, you know, I'm
really mad about it, and then I say, okay, done,
Now what can I do about it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Well, you know, I'm not without my own health issues
with wild life threatening food allergies on board. So I
have a health issue in every moment actually that we're
navigating when you eat food or whatever you're doing. And
I've almost been, you know, kind of taken out.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
By it twice.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
But you know, I think that for our purposes and
things like that to one of the conversations that's underlying
here is how do you feel successful when you have
other things at play in the background and you feel
like you're the only.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
One who has it?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
That way so many times, like I am the only
one who is not achieving this or that because of
X y Z. Yeah, and especially sorry my throat. I've
been I've been teaching today and so my throat's a
little squirrely, so water over here and decaf coffee over here.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
So hopefully I won't cough again, but you know when.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
But you know, especially like for me when I had migraines,
like clockwork through my thirties and forties with small children also,
you know, so I have small children and a migraine.
I'm like, how do people navigate? Like, how do people
navigate this? You know, having a job, having a migraine,
having kids, having dinner to be made, having homework to
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be done, having a husband, having you know, you know,
ten different things going on in the course of the day,
while you've got something debilitating happening to you. And so
that can be as simple as a cold and you've
got responsibilities that you're trying to attend to, and you're like,
how do people manage that?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
It could be something on.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Board with you, something chronic, whatever it is, it's it's frustrating.
It makes you, It strips you of your confidence sometimes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
It really can. And you you, I mean, we're taught.
I remember my mother saying to me, you look too happy.
You must not be working hard enough. You know what
does that do to your self esteem? And then when
you have these times when you can't be productive. Like
for me, it's when I get these chronic pain bouts
and I am I'm on the couch because I can't move,
(08:41):
and so I find myself playing that tape too. And finally,
what we were talking about yesterday is that's a story
we've created and it's something that got passed on that
we allowed ourselves to believe in. But I'm changing the tape.
I mean, yeah, that shows I am. Yeah, I said tape,
(09:02):
but I'm changing the story. I'm rewinding because I don't
want to believe that. I want to say that when
my body needs help, it needs help, and I can
do the best I can with attending to the responsibilities
I have and be okay with what I'm able to do,
and that's got to be good enough. And sometimes good
(09:23):
enough is enough. And we don't always have to excel,
and we don't always have to be great, and we
don't always have to be our best. We're our best
under the circumstances that we have.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I can think it's so hard for people to do
and to really actually get in there and redefine success
for yourself personally, professionally based on whatever you have going
on to be that's the best ever you is to
be your best ever you. You're going to be your best.
I'm going to be my best, and it's going to
be moment to moment, and you might not feel your
(09:58):
best in some moments. So let's go here for a minute.
Because I've thought about this a lot. What do you
do when you feel your absolute worst in a moment?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Oh? I Well, it's important because I think people feel
that way.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I think people feel terrible sometimes. I think they're afraid
to say it, especially with social media parading everybody's greatness
around and filters and whatever and the you know, just
this idea that people feel, well, it's not any brilliant idea.
It's probably a fact. People feel alone. They feel like
it's only them, They feel like it's not going to
(10:33):
get any better. You know that. You just feel you've
lose tracking. It's almost like a disconnect. I used to
say when I would get migraines that it would feel
like I'm getting derailed. Yeah yeah, and I'm going going
going at mock speed or whatever speed. I'm doing productive,
doing all these things, and then I'd start to be like, oh,
(10:53):
here comes a migraine. And then the migraine would completely
like a train going off the tracks, tell me yeah,
and then you have a few days coming back where
you're like, okay, I'm on board again. Yeah, derailed again,
you know kind of thing. And it was really hard
until I hit menopause. So I'm fifty five and the
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headache stopped when every once in a while, but not
like that. Those were cry darkness things on your eyes,
you know, terrible headaches and nothing worked, probably hormonal migraines
type things.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I'm so glad that they've stopped. I think that it's
really I mean, there's so many people have so many
different things that bought them and bother them. And what
I've learned is when it's really really tough, I and
I'll give you the example when I was going through
(11:55):
my pulmonary embolism, I'm lying in the emergency room dying,
and I just said, okay, body, you and I we're
a team. We're a team. You and I need to
get together right now, and we need to do whatever
we can to get through this period of time. And
(12:16):
then I had this insight to breathe really slowly. And
for those of you who don't know, a pulmonary embolism
lung as blood clots in your lung and so my
breathing was changing, and I because I'm a swimmer and
a singer, I just naturally slowed my breathing so it
made it easier. But it really did help when I said, hey, body,
(12:38):
we're a team, and that allowed me to think quietly,
thinks slowly, to be able to say, Okay, what can
I do in this moment because I can't take it
away yet? And thankfully they did take it away. They
got me into emergency surgery. But those situations when we're
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really upset about what's happening to us physically, it's super
important to calm down and to become a partner with
your body.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Instead of fighting it.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Because there's moments where, like you really can a lot
of self hatred can come in there if you let it.
Oh yeah, I can really have a really good on
verbal war in your head with yourself. You know that,
Like the self hatred creeps in, especially if you look,
you know, at somebody else doing something that you really
want to do, or they're super vibrant, or they're moving
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better or they're having a better day or whatever it is,
because you know, we're all guilty of that, going through
the TikTok feed or watching me and everybody looks perfect
and all this stuff, and you're sitting there suffering, and
it's just a brew, like this little toxic brew of
hatred that is festering.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, it's really easy to start feeling like it's our fault. Yeah,
when we have health issues. And that was one of
the things with my friend yesterday, is she inherited this stuff.
She's in super good health. She treats herself so well
and her body so well, and some things just are
beyond our control. Yeah. I remember there was a famous
(14:17):
runner and I can't remember his name, who died when
I was a teenager, and he was a marathon runner
in phenomenal shape, and he died from a heart condition,
and everybody went, what you know, the guy didn't have
a bona, you know, he was skin and bones basically,
but he died of a heart condition. So I think
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all of us need to just give ourselves grace and
whatever it is our body needs attention for. That's what
it is. It's as simple as that. It's saying okay.
Sometimes it's more serious and it takes more of your attention,
like you know, when I had the embolism and when
you were having life threatening condition from food allergy. Sometimes
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you're fighting for your life, but still it's the same thing.
Become a team with your body. And I this morning,
when I was feeling sorry for myself over having some pain,
I was like, okay, body, I'm sending you love. I'm
sending sending you love, I'm sending you peace, I'm sending
(15:24):
you good vibes, whatever energy I can to just say,
we're in this together. Tell me what you need. And
I just don't think people slow down long enough to
do that pause.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
You know that's the no time factor of taking care
of yourself. It feels like and you know, I'm guilty
of this in moments to you know, your health sometimes
feels like it's the very last thing that you pay
attention to. You're busy doing everything for everybody else or
everything else for yourself that might pay a bill or
(15:55):
is work related or something other than like mandatory health
something every day and I don't know about you. I
made a promise to myself this year because I'm guilty
of doing that, I'll stray from myself and have to
come back because I'm busy doing something, and really what
(16:15):
I need to do is the appointment needs to be
with myself in the morning, at like ten o'clock in
the morning or five o'clock in the morning or whatever
it is, and that's the moment where I should like regroup,
get my exercise in, do everything, and then go on
with my day. And sometimes it's just too cozy when
it's fifty degrees outside, and I'm like, I don't really want
to get up and do all that thing, so we
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get kind of lazy, and then we stray further and
then we're like, okay, Eventually you kind of put your
foot down, or life puts its foot down on you
and says, look, we got to get under control now
and do that. But it's I think I don't know
that everybody puts their health as the very first thing.
I think we tend to probably put our health and
sometimes ourselves even as the very last thing that we're
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going to take care of, especially as women, especially as mothers,
wives and everything. We're taking care of everybody else first.
And that self care you had a really nice word
for it. You know that like self care, compassion. Self
compassion needs to factor in absolutely.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
And the thing is with the body that the body
will give you a warning sign. Yeah, and gives you
a lot of warning signs, and it's a matter of
when are you going to listen, because it'll up the
ante until you do. And I was writing a blog
this morning and I was thinking, you know, it's kind
of like if you stick your finger in a socket,
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it's got a heart, like how so don't you know
it's like, listen when your body starts to give you
the set the signals. Don't just keep your finger in
the socket and think it's going to stop hurting. Your
body isn't going to give up on you if you don't,
unless you give up on it.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
So we were having a chat about water. You and
I have had extensive chats about water over the years
we've known each other. Some people are water drinkers and
other people just aren't. And I started, after our conversation,
I'm I'm kind of looking around at what we were doing.
I asked a couple of people if they like to
drink water, and I ran into somebody else who just
(18:26):
absolutely hates to drink water, and I'm like, you guys
are a little match I I'll drink water. But it's
funny because in the winter time, if it's ice water,
like I can't have ice in it, or I just
am like chilled to the bone. I'm like this going, oh,
I'm so cold. But water is so vital and we
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none of us may be drink enough. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Well, I think too as you all, as you get
older as a woman, you need to drink more water
because it are our whole feminine biology requires it more
to keep yourself moving, right. And I mean, I'm not
going to get into really big details here, but you
guys know what I'm talking about. But it's a challenge
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because you and I are both like life coaches and therapists,
and we're sitting with people and you drink a lot
of water. Well, there's an impact of that, and so
what do you do when you've got to pee and
you're sitting with someone, and you know, what do you do?
And so you got to be careful and time it.
And that's always been one issue for me that I
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always have to be very careful about because of the therapist,
you know, and.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
All confiding here in our listeners here, somebody told Katie
over the weekend that she used to go to the
bathroom at least ten times a day or something. Katy's like,
oh great, yeah, be fun. That's sitting over there laughing,
going yeah, that's that's about it.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Maybe more.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And then I'm thinking of like all the trips we
both take and how you know, right being that, like
I will drink all the water in the world before
a trip so that they get in the car and
don't have to be the one that has been like
I gotta stop that kind of thing. Every you know,
whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
We have to map out the rest areas along the way,
and as you get older that becomes more and more
important for both of us, not just for me. So yeah,
I mean really seriously, guys, when you get older, this
is one of the things you've got to look forward to,
is you map out the rest areas when you.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Trowl simple but you know, and who likes going to
the bathroom on a bus or airplane, yeah or anything.
It's like just I'd rather just not I'd rather dehydrate
than that.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah, you get over trust me, I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
But you know, so at least we kind of work
from home and stuff like that, so it's not that bad,
but it's i annoying. And and that amount of water
it's usually like your body weight cut in half and
ounces or something like that, and it's you know, it's
enough water and it's incentive to lose weight. So the
amount of water I'm just skidding.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
So the amount goes goes lower.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
But but what do you think about, Like, let's talk
about health for a minute. And again we're not health
coaches here, but you know, we are real life people.
And you know, if you want to type in the
comments some health tip you have, that'd be pretty awesome because.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
People have them.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
But what do you think about water, food, and exercise?
And then and then factor in aside from that, like
mind set, like mind reset, maybe something else other than
because everybody thinks water, food, exercise, and they forget, you know,
all the mind things, the meditation, the mind so huge.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
And the thing that I've learned that really helps me
is that I may do really well in one of
those categories one day and not so well the next day,
but I start every day new. I I always I
have this great saying of make today better than yesterday,
which means, okay, today I just had all my cooked
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vegetables with my eggs and goodie on me. And I've
been drinking my water and I've been doing those and
I'll go hop on my treadmill and yeah, I today
is a good day. I've got it right. I've been
doing it right. Well, tomorrow might be different, and that's okay.
That's the thing is everybody gets derailed when they don't
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do it the way they want to do it. Every
day you're not going to do it well. Some people do,
blessed our I love you guys, but most people don't
have that luxury that life happens and it pulls your
schedule and you know, or you have the little kids,
oh you know, them being home or them being sick
in school, calling or whatever it is. You know, it's
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a quickly derail you. Yeah, Like on my insme, we
brought in a beg of red liquorice.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I'm like, oh no, there goes the diet red liquorice.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Or I remember when CALLI was growing up, I would
I sign up for exercise classes and well of that
shot to heck because i perse calendar was like taking
her to dance and taking her here and taking her there,
and I never got to do stuff like that because
I never fit in my schedule. So you just have
to be give yourself grace and do the best you
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can and every day start over and try to do better.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Okay, so we're we're the percolate people, going to staff
the percolate the percolate people. So we're going to have
percolate health. We're going to have people percolate health. So
what would we like people to do as we talk
about percolating health?
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I mean, is it as easy as saying.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
In the mirror or whatever to yourself a bunch of times,
I am healthy, I am healthy, I am Does that work?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Do you think? Absolutely? That helps? For sure? Affirmations are very,
very powerful. But I also want people to ask themselves
the question. And I'm a big fan of baby steps.
I call them big steps. You are, Yeah, And I
want people to ask themselves, you know, if there's one
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area of health that I would like to improve, Like
for me, it's my goal for twenty twenty five is
to be pain free. You know, that's a goal. I
might get there twenty percent of the time thirty who knows,
but that's my goal. So pick what it is for
you one thing, and then what are the baby steps
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you can take, because it takes thirty days to break
a habit so and form a new one. So be
gentle with yourself around one thing, baby steps with one thing.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
And I take a goal, like a big, a big notion.
Like let's say I said I would like to in
the best shape of my life at age fifty five
for twenty twenty five going into fifty six. So I
break that down and I think, okay, well that's going
to mean some changes to food, water, Exercise's there. It's
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probably more the consistency based on maybe the weather or
the way I'm feeling or whatever. Work gets that kind
of thing. So the consistency for me could be so
take one of those areas. Take and we talked about
this in Perkly, and we talked about this in our
books and invest ever unit What you mean is to like,
so take water, for example, drink the right amount of
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water for thirty days in a row, and you habit
that's starting to form. What I sometimes do with people
is at the thirty day mark, I'm like, a great job.
Even if you had to reset in those thirty days,
you don't have to set all over again. Just keep going.
A bad day or a bob will keep going. It's
thirty days, right, and then at the end of the
thirty days you could maybe even introduce a new habit.
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You start a second one and keep the first one going,
so you have two things working.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
You know, by the end of ninety days.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
If you do that, you've made some pretty major changes
that were like tiny shifts, right, the.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Little things can really matter. And yeah, I mean my
doing ten glasses of water a day is going to
be huge for me and get out of my way
when I'm making my way to the bathroom. But you know,
it's it's what I need to do to decrease my pain.
So yeah, I'm going to do it, and I am
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and I'm you guys are all witnesses for me right now.
We are your accountability partner, my accountability partners that I'm
going to be peeing ten times a day.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Check in on that, Katie, just check it on you kid.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
You can you know, you can do on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
You can do like Instagram stories with Count Dracula, like
one of the day is ten you know, something funny
or it's just for your updates of your accounting. Oh boy,
that's pretty funny. We don't need a live cam or
anything though. We just need no please now, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
But that's real life. That's that's very much real life,
and it's real aging, and it's my real life. And
everybody else has their stuff, you know, some people have
chronic other things, and and so I think, like that
conversation with my friend yesterday said was what can we do?
That's the question to always ask yourself what can I do?
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Not focusing on what you no longer can do, but
what can I still do? And what do I want
to do? And what do I need to do? Those
are really important questions related to health and anything. And
graceful aging is all about those changes that happen, being
able to ask yourself, Okay, what's my baby's step forward?
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What do I need? Yeah? I was.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I was having my pamper day at the spa yesterday
getting my hair done and I had to switch to
a new hair dresser because the other lady left.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
And she was a hi Kelly.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
She was a blonde just like just like me, about
my height, same exact age, and she had a year
or two under me.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
But general just.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Really good shape, nails done, hair done, everything done, And
I'm like, what are you doing She's like, I walk yeah,
because I thought I judged her and I said, you
you're so in shape, you seem like a runner. And
she goes, oh god, I hate running. I'm like, yeah,
it was kindred sisters, because I hate running too, and
I can honestly use.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
The word hate there.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
But she walked. She said, you know, walking is like
the best thing ever. I'm like, are you one? Are
you walking walking? Like walking running? She said no, just walking,
and then she said she does bar.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Oh yeah, bar is great for you, and I love that. Yeah,
I'm I had to adjust because I was doing during COVID.
I started using a growing machine and I love it,
love love love rowing. It's really therapeutic. It's very soothing.
But after the embolism, I'm like, I can't do that now,
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and so I have to adjust now to doing walking
on a treadmill when it's crapped out right now.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Well, we get thrown for a loop when it's not summer,
and I get thrown for.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
A loop when there's no pool open, because.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
All summer long, I'm swimming and I feel like I'm
getting my exercise in in an easy way that isn't
annoying to me. Ye you know, I'm not braving ice
or the wind or the rain or the whatever it
is to walk. So I have a treadmill. I think
treadmills are so boring though, I just.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Want to be out swimming. I'm the outside.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
But I would joke a all all summer along with it,
because I'm like, I wonder what it would cost to
enclose this or have like a you know, like a
sports retractable dome over it. So in the summertime it's open,
and in the wintertime it's closed and you're swimming and
it's a fortune. But but little goals. But yeah, I know,
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I get thrown for a loop when the pool is
is out because I'm out there and I'll do like
water aerobics almost out in the pool. And then we
got in a class with a cap on and in
your swimming suit in front of everybody and all that
stuff that I just don't love.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Right, Yeah, I just I I have the problem where
too many people know me too, and having somebody buck
naked and start bocking me as if I'm their therapist
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in a pool in a in a locker room, so
I actually have to go to a place further away.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
And that's funny. That happened to me at the Planet
Fitness in Belmouth the last time I went. Somebody, I mean,
I am like, I am a hair on top of
my head, no makeup on everything like that. And so
I was like, you're the author of that book The Change.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Can I take a picture with you?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
And I'm like, yes, lasty same No, I'm like, oh, like,
can you photoshop it?
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Can you make me look fifteen pounds dinner?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I don't know, you know kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
That was bizarre, and you know, it's a cute problem
to have, and it was cute in the moment. I
was grateful and all that stuff, but in my head
I had a thousand things playing. I'm like, sure or whatever.
But if anyone.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Don't post it, you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I don't know. If anybody who knows me it is
listening to this, please don't come up to me buck
naked in the in the locker rooms. It's just not comfortable. Sorry,
I can't have an intimate conversation when you're both flying.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Funny, actually, so.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Let me tell you about my day.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
You're not serious.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yes, I know what happens. Yeah, I get it. Like
once a therapist, always a therapist, no matter where you are.
It's really tack down to tell you everything. Oh yeah,
I know, I hear you.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
So what else? What else we got?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
We always we said that we were always going to
talk about our books on these just to just to
remind people that were you know, I wouldn't call it
starving authors.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
But well I had. I had a really beautiful moment
this week book My one of my dear friends who
lost her mom posted that she read my book after
her mom died and that how much it really meant
to her. And and really, when you write a book, folks,
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that's why you write a book. You write a book
because you want people to be improved by the book.
You want their life to get easier, you want their
best self to come through from the book. And so
I'm really proud of that. That is something that if
you know of anybody who's struggling with loss or change
(33:13):
or transition, that's what my books are about. And my
book is about and I really I love the fact
that someone that people are being helped by it, and
just like yours, I mean, Elizabeth your books too. People
are changing their lives because of your guide books, and
(33:35):
I think that that's what I want people to recognize
around us being authors, is like you know, it's it's
really we want all that work to matter. We want
to help the We've got wisdom in these books that
aren't all ours. It's also other people's wisdom. In my book.
There's really inspiring stories in Elizabeth books. They're inspiring story worries.
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We want that wisdom to get out there because that's
why we did it. That's why we did it, And
there's no other reason you write a book. You don't
write a book other than to help other people get
yourself tepic book. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Actually I told you you know that I was going
to read your book like word by like actually word
by word, which slows me down in my reading because
sometimes I'm a fast reader and I kind of get
the gist of it and things like that.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
So I'm back reading it.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Word by word actually and like marking things and stuff
like that this time around.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I have to do that.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Sometimes with books they go through three or four times.
But there's there's a bunch of sentences in here. First
of all, I want to talk to you about bullying.
If you don't mind, if it's a bad topic, let
me know what's in here though, So you know, now
I've been bullied as a kid and as an adult, both,
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you know, just funky moments were people do really really
mean things.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
But you've got quite a bullying story in here.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah, I do. I was followed home from school with
them throwing rocks at me and they didn't hit me.
They threw them around me, but they terrified me. And
it was three, it was a few miles home, and
I just really what I learned from that is I
(35:27):
kept a focus on peace the whole time. I kept
just honoring my belief that love and peace are most important,
and I kept just kind of focusing on that so
I wouldn't get scared. And I think that when bullying happens,
obviously you don't want to put yourself in a scary
(35:47):
situation where you're at risk. That's absolutely number one. But
I learned pretty quickly that they were not going to
hurt me because they didn't. They could have, but they didn't.
So I instead, to get through that period of time,
I just held this vision of love and love and
kindness and and that helped me. Like just like when
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I talked about when with my health scare, if you
breathe into love and kindness, you'd be surprised how much
you can get through even the toughest situation. It really
does help to for your mind, your body, your spirits,
and your emotions to come together. And of course it
(36:31):
also didn't hurt that my mother knew about it and
she went to the principal and raised bloody hell. But
that happens the flip as well. When that happens, then
it's like you're you get the retribution too.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Now let me take a moment here, though, and till
I'm gonna It's gonna be a stretch, but I'm gonna
do it anyway.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I want to tie that.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
I want to tie these moments if I can, from
childhood anything into health today.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah, I think I think it's super connected.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah, a lot of the things that we do as
an adulter this or that from this or that that
maybe healed, might be unhealed, it might be triggered.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
It might be this or that.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
But you know there's a moment in here. Can I
read from this instead of shure, it's a moment in
here where you talk about Reese's peanut butter cups.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Oh yeah, yeah. I was growing up in a period
of time where I was really being bullied, being put down.
I was heavy, I felt badly about myself. I was
being put I was constantly being ridiculed, and I just
turned to chocolate because it was that endorfit.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Right.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
And now I know that I had insulin resistance because
I actually went to the Joscelyn Clinic when I was
fifteen and they said, oh, you have slow insulin. Well
they didn't know what that was back then, Well now
I do. Well. Of course I was craving chocolate and
sugar because my insulin was really slow, and so I
never got full. So there was a combination of an
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emotional need to nurture myself and also this physical need
that I was satisfying. So my health was definitely impacted
by that and by the inflammation that probably happened, and
then of course I developed into metriosis, and that story
(38:29):
continues way into infertility and all kinds of stuff. So yeah,
it can really impact your body when you go through stressful, difficult,
traumatic moments, because the body remembers the body remembers, and
for me, as I was writing the book, I was like, oh, wow,
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this is really awful.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Chocolate chocolate.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
No interested, I didn't because I was healed, I know.
But I think that that's really important for people to
recognize that your body will give you these signals, and
it's not always because you don't have the willpower. Sometimes
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it has nothing to do with willpower. It has to
do with your body has something biochemically going on that
when you're in an emotional stress situation, you're not as
able to control it. Yes, So that's where I learned
from writing the book to give myself grace that sometimes
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things are harder to do, and when you're in physical pain,
it's really hard to exercise.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yeah, yeah it is, and it is and I've been
there too and I get it.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
And yeah, yeah, So there's definitely a body kind and.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Quite some help today for everybody, wellness and well being
for everybody this week. And I hope I know we're
going to go here in a minute, but you know,
I hope conversations like this that are real, even rambly
at moments. You know, it's not we we have not
we don't script these things. We just are getting on
here and kind of talking about what we feel like
(40:21):
talking about and stuff. But I hope it resonates with
people and and and people have that moment where they're like, oh, Okay,
I'm not alone.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
That's what I want.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
I don't like that that people feel alone. It really
bothers me a lot. I'm like, I don't want people
to feel alone. You are. You've definitely got us, So
comment or call us or.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
And we're trying to be real here. You know that
that that we have physical and health issues that we
combat every day, and so you do too, and honor
at under that. Talk about it, talk about it with us,
talk about it with others, but own it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
And in the food allergy community, if you're watching this,
you know I'm right here. You know I have life
threatening food allergies. I have four life threatening food allergies
on board. So I have anaphyl access to peanut, tree,
nut fish, and shellfish, and I have a medical alert
on And I remember when somebody first suggested I wear
a medical alert, I'm like, I'm not not putting a
label on me if something wrong. I remember I thought
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I was going to get fired for my job. If
somebody saw it, so I was it in my pocket.
I would wear it around my neck and hide it.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
And people like you.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Don't understand like if something happens to you that the
emergency teams are trained to like see that and flip
it over and and all this like, oh I get it,
so it's life saving huh.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
No kind of thing. But you know, it's it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
How how people want to My point is, you know
people want to hide what's wrong?
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Right they do?
Speaker 3 (41:59):
People hide pop? Go ahead?
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Sorry, Well what I was going to say is they
used to be but ugly, but hey now they're really pretty.
So you know we we can Oh we're a medical alert. Yea,
we have our medical a braises and boy that's enough
talk about aging. But yeah, it's why hide it and
why I mean life, life is really important and those
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things matter, and why take the ten minutes away from
your good health care treatment by not having this and
not letting them see it when you're not able to
articulate it, Like.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Let's hold it up one more time. Here's our medical alerts. Okay,
mind's blue? Yeah yeah, so yeah, I help medical alert
design the ones for kids years and years thousand years
ago now because kids needed them different than these and
needed bands and things like that.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
So I helped with that.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
But let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Look at us, everybody, take a look at us. Can
you tell anythings I'm gonna use a word wrong for
lack of a better thing. Can you tell that we
have anything going on?
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:13):
I mean I might have ten pounds on me or whatever.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Don't don't go there. Somebody be like, yes, you need
to lose weight.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Okay, thanks, Yeah no, but I mean, can you tell
there's a chronic health issue going on?
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:23):
No, they you know you can't. So so my point
is is that you know, take a pause around people
and enact kindness and pause and grace and compassion and
all those things that we talk about with people, because
you have absolutely no idea what's going on in the background,
right for human beings like and what they're going through,
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what they're suffering through, what they're trying to work on.
You know, it goes on and on, you know exactly.
I mean, yeah, and I think that we.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Need to talk about our health conditions. And you know,
you mentioned it's food alogies. I write a lot in
my book about my infertility and being part of that
club that I never wanted to be part of. Ady
out there who wants to talk about that. That's a
very hard thing when your body won't do what you
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want it to do and everyone else around you is
having children, and so sometimes it can feel extremely lonely.
So yeah, our bodies are our team. We're teams, and
they don't our teammates don't always give us what we want.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
I had the cute I gotta tell you, I had
the cutest experience with our neighborhood. So we had a
neighborhood pot luck two weekends ago, and everybody brought food,
and our neighborhood was so cool. They labeled everything for
me like don't eat this, this is good to go
have it all day long, you know, I mean they
wrote the ingredients down, they did it like that is
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so sweet. And it was for another person too, but
it was so thoughtful and so kind. And I tell you,
there were two new neighbors here and there are people
who labeled things and stuff like that, and that kind
of are you okay atness? Then to me, because usually
I feel like a goofball. Usually I feel like a
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fish out of water. When you put a bunch of
people around me in food and I'm like, well, I
can't eat anything, especially if you baked goods or made
by other people. I'm like, I'm not risking it. Yeah,
really socially awkward. So that was so cool.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yeah, it is, and that those kinds of things matter,
they really do. I mean, I'm part of a women's
group and I can't stand up very long because of
what happened in my leg, and so like right now
I have my foot on a stool and I have
to put my foot on a stool, and these women
are so great. They make sure that I have a
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pillow on it, and you know, they're so nurturing around. Well,
where's your stool? We want to make sure that you
stay there and know we're not going to stand up.
We're going to you know, we're gonna honor. Yeah. Pay
attention to everybody. Pay attention to the people's health, other
people's health, your own. Start with you and model for
other people. Taking care of your health and doing the crazy,
(46:13):
stupid creative things you need to do if you need to.
I'm gluten free, I need to bring my own food sometimes,
you know, because it just you do.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
So do it.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
That's that's our point. Do what you need to do.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Love it all right, anything else. So we got Uplifting.
I think the one I'm going to hold up this
week is The Change Guidebook. And yeah, yeah, I just
put this one up. So these two books that we
would love for you to find here, they are Uplifting
and the Change Guidebook. These they go hand in hand.
We always talk about change and success and gratitude. And
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you know, you are such a beautiful writer, just so
everybody knows, like, you know, I need I need editors
and things like that. Katie is one of the most
beautiful writers. And so it's been fun to go through
your book word by word and you know, and we're
writing together again. So I'm like, there you are, you
know kind of thing, just eloquently put.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
But I love this.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
The challenges served as catalysts for their growth in what
they viewed as better or more authentic versions of themselves.
Yeah yeah, there, I mean there's some really they learned
to leverage loss and champion change by connecting consciously or unconsciously.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Choosing to reflect that scared me.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
I'm like alarmed.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Yeah, choosing to reflect, reassess redefine and recreate some or
many aspects of their lives. They listen, there's a choice point.
When they took time to address their mental, physical, emotional,
and spiritual messages and change their mindset. They lifted themselves up.
That's what we're talking about today.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Yeah, it is lift yourself up with your health and
and then lift others.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
Yeah, yes, ye, all right, everybody, thanks for being here
with us. Katie as always, lovely to see you and
here everyone.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Be well, be well, be well. Health, percolate health, percolate
health absolute. All right, okay, bye,
Hi everybody, and welcome to the Real Life Podcast. I'm
Elizabeth here with doctor Katie Eastman. How are you.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
How's the week. I'm doing well. I have been just
dealing with life, you know, real life stuff.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah, yeah, oh, I hear you. Well, I think that's
the feedback that we got. So we did our first
show last week, not knowing what people were gonna say
or do, and it turns out about one thousand plus
people watched, and so we got some really good comments.
And you know, that's what we're here to be is
relatable to your real life, which we've got plenty of,
(00:37):
plenty of things brewing in the in the background of
our real lives. I don't know about you, but it was.
It's been a busy week. We had Cam Cam come home.
Cam and Olivia come home from Germany. They've Cam's been
over in Germany playing baseball for the year. I don't
know if I've mentioned this or not, but they were
at his uh they were at her family's house for
(00:58):
a while after they got back another here and so
I've got my They went to Starbucks for me and
got me a mug from Germany and not yes cute.
So anyway, yeah, but a hand formward.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
It's not about you.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
But it's forty some degrees. I'm freezing, so oh yeah,
it's it started to rain this morning. I live in
the Northwest, as you know, and of course we just
dread the rain. But it comes and you just get
used to it and you snuggle of snuggle up because
that's what you do when you can't change something, you
figure out how to deal with it. Yeah, you do.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
And it's snowing up in the mountains here, so oh wow. Yeah,
it's a little early for snow for me. But anyway,
so how about so in the background, I'm trying to
tell everybody kind of what we've been doing. We've been
writing a new book Proposal, which has been fun to
kind of go through and stuff like that. But as
we were writing, and who knows what's going to happen
(01:54):
with it, We don't know, We have no idea, but
we're working on it right we're putting our best effort forward.
But I said, oh my god, we gotta hold on
tight to a dream. You gotta listen to this song
Katie by Electric Light Orchestra. I love the song hold
On Tight to your Dreams, and you're like, oh goodness,
I wanted to play it, and I'm like, I don't
know if we have the right or whatever. So I
was gonna play it right now. I'm like, I'll just
(02:15):
skip it. Yes, but you apparently have an Eyello story.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Oh, I have a great Yello story. So I was
in high school and I was believing or not, sitting
by this really beautiful swimming place that a lot of
people went to. It was a quarry, and I was reading,
of all things, the Bible, and this guy comes up
and he goes, oh, you're reading the Bible. He goes,
oh Jesus, he's a good shit and I went what.
(02:44):
I was like, he's a what? And so we had
this great conversation. But long story short, we ended up
going to an Ello concert in Montreal and he ended
up staying at the border because he brought a little
something with them that you're not supposed to bring across
the border. And the rest of us were like, you
(03:06):
dumb idiot. You know, and I mean nobody, you don't
do that with going across any border, and this fool
did it. And we were like, see, we're going to
the concert. I don't know you of that, but it
was pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
It was like yeah Jesus, yeah, well yeah, so anyway,
electric Light. So I keep putting Electric Light Orchestra on
my Instagram and the kids there's kids like.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
What song is that? What song is that?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, it's a great song and it was a great concert.
But I will just never forget meeting that. And it's
just so that's so real life. You meet people and
they come into your life and you have these interesting
conversations with you and you might do something with them,
and then they're out of your life and didn't come
(04:01):
in for a reason, spent time with you. But onward
you go and you know, anyway, it was one of
my fun stories of VLO.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah that's great. So what else is happening over there?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Well, you know, I think one of the things that
you and I wanted to talk about today is health
and real life health stuff that happens. And as a woman,
a lot of women don't talk about what's really going on.
So I had a conversation with a friend and it
was a really enlightening conversation because she's young, she's your age,
(04:35):
and she was really distraught because she was newly diagnosed
with some hereditary conditions that she just feels way too
young to have. Yeah, and she's in incredible health, she's
an athlete. There are all kinds of things that would say,
why am I getting this? And it really begged the
(04:57):
question for everyone to consider. It's like, well, what do
you do when those diagnoses come up, because they do
as you get older, and how do you handle it?
And we had this great conversation about you know, yeah,
we had the part of saying, this really sucks and
I have chronic pain that I have different times, and
(05:19):
she has stuff, and we just said, you know, at
least we have the information. You can look at a
health diagnosis as I have new information that my body's
giving me that tells me that I need to address something.
What if we didn't get the information. That's what our
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mothers went through. Excuse me, I didn't have the information
we have. They got diagnosed with stuff that they couldn't
turn around. Well, we have lots of time and they
didn't have it. And so we really talked about how
important it is that at a very young age you
start having medical appointments and you start learning about your
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medical history and you don't take it for granted. And
when stuff comes up that you take the attitude of okay,
well what can I do about it? And you know,
you whine and complain for I do this. I have
a wine. Yeah, I set the timer. I say, okay,
I got twenty four hours to whine, and I like
(06:23):
feel sorry for myself, and I argue, you know, I'm
really mad about it, and then I say, okay, done,
Now what can I do about it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Well, you know, I'm not without my own health issues
with wild life threatening food allergies on board. So I
have a health issue in every moment actually that we're
navigating when you eat food or whatever you're doing. And
I've almost been, you know, kind of taken out.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
By it twice.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
But you know, I think that for our purposes and
things like that to one of the conversations that's underlying
here is how do you feel successful when you have
other things at play in the background and you feel
like you're the only.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
One who has it?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
That way so many times, like I am the only
one who is not achieving this or that because of
X y Z. Yeah, and especially sorry my throat. I've
been I've been teaching today and so my throat's a
little squirrely, so water over here and decaf coffee over here.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
So hopefully I won't cough again, but you know when.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
But you know, especially like for me when I had migraines,
like clockwork through my thirties and forties with small children also,
you know, so I have small children and a migraine.
I'm like, how do people navigate? Like, how do people
navigate this? You know, having a job, having a migraine,
having kids, having dinner to be made, having homework to
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be done, having a husband, having you know, you know,
ten different things going on in the course of the day,
while you've got something debilitating happening to you. And so
that can be as simple as a cold and you've
got responsibilities that you're trying to attend to, and you're like,
how do people manage that?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
It could be something on.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Board with you, something chronic, whatever it is, it's it's frustrating.
It makes you, It strips you of your confidence sometimes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
It really can. And you you, I mean, we're taught.
I remember my mother saying to me, you look too happy.
You must not be working hard enough. You know what
does that do to your self esteem? And then when
you have these times when you can't be productive. Like
for me, it's when I get these chronic pain bouts
and I am I'm on the couch because I can't move,
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and so I find myself playing that tape too. And finally,
what we were talking about yesterday is that's a story
we've created and it's something that got passed on that
we allowed ourselves to believe in. But I'm changing the tape.
I mean, yeah, that shows I am. Yeah, I said tape,
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but I'm changing the story. I'm rewinding because I don't
want to believe that. I want to say that when
my body needs help, it needs help, and I can
do the best I can with attending to the responsibilities
I have and be okay with what I'm able to do,
and that's got to be good enough. And sometimes good
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enough is enough. And we don't always have to excel,
and we don't always have to be great, and we
don't always have to be our best. We're our best
under the circumstances that we have.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I can think it's so hard for people to do
and to really actually get in there and redefine success
for yourself personally, professionally based on whatever you have going
on to be that's the best ever you is to
be your best ever you. You're going to be your best.
I'm going to be my best, and it's going to
be moment to moment, and you might not feel your
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best in some moments. So let's go here for a minute.
Because I've thought about this a lot. What do you
do when you feel your absolute worst in a moment?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Oh? I Well, it's important because I think people feel
that way.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I think people feel terrible sometimes. I think they're afraid
to say it, especially with social media parading everybody's greatness
around and filters and whatever and the you know, just
this idea that people feel, well, it's not any brilliant idea.
It's probably a fact. People feel alone. They feel like
it's only them, They feel like it's not going to
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get any better. You know that. You just feel you've
lose tracking. It's almost like a disconnect. I used to
say when I would get migraines that it would feel
like I'm getting derailed. Yeah yeah, and I'm going going
going at mock speed or whatever speed. I'm doing productive,
doing all these things, and then I'd start to be like, oh,
(10:53):
here comes a migraine. And then the migraine would completely
like a train going off the tracks, tell me yeah,
and then you have a few days coming back where
you're like, okay, I'm on board again. Yeah, derailed again,
you know kind of thing. And it was really hard
until I hit menopause. So I'm fifty five and the
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headache stopped when every once in a while, but not
like that. Those were cry darkness things on your eyes,
you know, terrible headaches and nothing worked, probably hormonal migraines
type things.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I'm so glad that they've stopped. I think that it's
really I mean, there's so many people have so many
different things that bought them and bother them. And what
I've learned is when it's really really tough, I and
I'll give you the example when I was going through
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my pulmonary embolism, I'm lying in the emergency room dying,
and I just said, okay, body, you and I we're
a team. We're a team. You and I need to
get together right now, and we need to do whatever
we can to get through this period of time. And
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then I had this insight to breathe really slowly. And
for those of you who don't know, a pulmonary embolism
lung as blood clots in your lung and so my
breathing was changing, and I because I'm a swimmer and
a singer, I just naturally slowed my breathing so it
made it easier. But it really did help when I said, hey, body,
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we're a team, and that allowed me to think quietly,
thinks slowly, to be able to say, Okay, what can
I do in this moment because I can't take it
away yet? And thankfully they did take it away. They
got me into emergency surgery. But those situations when we're
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really upset about what's happening to us physically, it's super
important to calm down and to become a partner with
your body.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Instead of fighting it.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Because there's moments where, like you really can a lot
of self hatred can come in there if you let it.
Oh yeah, I can really have a really good on
verbal war in your head with yourself. You know that,
Like the self hatred creeps in, especially if you look,
you know, at somebody else doing something that you really
want to do, or they're super vibrant, or they're moving
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better or they're having a better day or whatever it is,
because you know, we're all guilty of that, going through
the TikTok feed or watching me and everybody looks perfect
and all this stuff, and you're sitting there suffering, and
it's just a brew, like this little toxic brew of
hatred that is festering.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, it's really easy to start feeling like it's our fault. Yeah,
when we have health issues. And that was one of
the things with my friend yesterday, is she inherited this stuff.
She's in super good health. She treats herself so well
and her body so well, and some things just are
beyond our control. Yeah. I remember there was a famous
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runner and I can't remember his name, who died when
I was a teenager, and he was a marathon runner
in phenomenal shape, and he died from a heart condition,
and everybody went, what you know, the guy didn't have
a bona, you know, he was skin and bones basically,
but he died of a heart condition. So I think
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all of us need to just give ourselves grace and
whatever it is our body needs attention for. That's what
it is. It's as simple as that. It's saying okay.
Sometimes it's more serious and it takes more of your attention,
like you know, when I had the embolism and when
you were having life threatening condition from food allergy. Sometimes
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you're fighting for your life, but still it's the same thing.
Become a team with your body. And I this morning,
when I was feeling sorry for myself over having some pain,
I was like, okay, body, I'm sending you love. I'm
sending sending you love, I'm sending you peace, I'm sending
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you good vibes, whatever energy I can to just say,
we're in this together. Tell me what you need. And
I just don't think people slow down long enough to
do that pause.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
You know that's the no time factor of taking care
of yourself. It feels like and you know, I'm guilty
of this in moments to you know, your health sometimes
feels like it's the very last thing that you pay
attention to. You're busy doing everything for everybody else or
everything else for yourself that might pay a bill or
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is work related or something other than like mandatory health
something every day and I don't know about you. I
made a promise to myself this year because I'm guilty
of doing that, I'll stray from myself and have to
come back because I'm busy doing something, and really what
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I need to do is the appointment needs to be
with myself in the morning, at like ten o'clock in
the morning or five o'clock in the morning or whatever
it is, and that's the moment where I should like regroup,
get my exercise in, do everything, and then go on
with my day. And sometimes it's just too cozy when
it's fifty degrees outside, and I'm like, I don't really want
to get up and do all that thing, so we
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get kind of lazy, and then we stray further and
then we're like, okay, Eventually you kind of put your
foot down, or life puts its foot down on you
and says, look, we got to get under control now
and do that. But it's I think I don't know
that everybody puts their health as the very first thing.
I think we tend to probably put our health and
sometimes ourselves even as the very last thing that we're
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going to take care of, especially as women, especially as mothers,
wives and everything. We're taking care of everybody else first.
And that self care you had a really nice word
for it. You know that like self care, compassion. Self
compassion needs to factor in absolutely.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
And the thing is with the body that the body
will give you a warning sign. Yeah, and gives you
a lot of warning signs, and it's a matter of
when are you going to listen, because it'll up the
ante until you do. And I was writing a blog
this morning and I was thinking, you know, it's kind
of like if you stick your finger in a socket,
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it's got a heart, like how so don't you know
it's like, listen when your body starts to give you
the set the signals. Don't just keep your finger in
the socket and think it's going to stop hurting. Your
body isn't going to give up on you if you don't,
unless you give up on it.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
So we were having a chat about water. You and
I have had extensive chats about water over the years
we've known each other. Some people are water drinkers and
other people just aren't. And I started, after our conversation,
I'm I'm kind of looking around at what we were doing.
I asked a couple of people if they like to
drink water, and I ran into somebody else who just
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absolutely hates to drink water, and I'm like, you guys
are a little match I I'll drink water. But it's
funny because in the winter time, if it's ice water,
like I can't have ice in it, or I just
am like chilled to the bone. I'm like this going, oh,
I'm so cold. But water is so vital and we
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none of us may be drink enough. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Well, I think too as you all, as you get
older as a woman, you need to drink more water
because it are our whole feminine biology requires it more
to keep yourself moving, right. And I mean, I'm not
going to get into really big details here, but you
guys know what I'm talking about. But it's a challenge
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because you and I are both like life coaches and therapists,
and we're sitting with people and you drink a lot
of water. Well, there's an impact of that, and so
what do you do when you've got to pee and
you're sitting with someone, and you know, what do you do?
And so you got to be careful and time it.
And that's always been one issue for me that I
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always have to be very careful about because of the therapist,
you know, and.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
All confiding here in our listeners here, somebody told Katie
over the weekend that she used to go to the
bathroom at least ten times a day or something. Katy's like,
oh great, yeah, be fun. That's sitting over there laughing,
going yeah, that's that's about it.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Maybe more.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And then I'm thinking of like all the trips we
both take and how you know, right being that, like
I will drink all the water in the world before
a trip so that they get in the car and
don't have to be the one that has been like
I gotta stop that kind of thing. Every you know,
whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
We have to map out the rest areas along the way,
and as you get older that becomes more and more
important for both of us, not just for me. So yeah,
I mean really seriously, guys, when you get older, this
is one of the things you've got to look forward to,
is you map out the rest areas when you.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Trowl simple but you know, and who likes going to
the bathroom on a bus or airplane, yeah or anything.
It's like just I'd rather just not I'd rather dehydrate
than that.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah, you get over trust me, I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
But you know, so at least we kind of work
from home and stuff like that, so it's not that bad,
but it's i annoying. And and that amount of water
it's usually like your body weight cut in half and
ounces or something like that, and it's you know, it's
enough water and it's incentive to lose weight. So the
amount of water I'm just skidding.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
So the amount goes goes lower.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
But but what do you think about, Like, let's talk
about health for a minute. And again we're not health
coaches here, but you know, we are real life people.
And you know, if you want to type in the
comments some health tip you have, that'd be pretty awesome because.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
People have them.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
But what do you think about water, food, and exercise?
And then and then factor in aside from that, like
mind set, like mind reset, maybe something else other than
because everybody thinks water, food, exercise, and they forget, you know,
all the mind things, the meditation, the mind so huge.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
And the thing that I've learned that really helps me
is that I may do really well in one of
those categories one day and not so well the next day,
but I start every day new. I I always I
have this great saying of make today better than yesterday,
which means, okay, today I just had all my cooked
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vegetables with my eggs and goodie on me. And I've
been drinking my water and I've been doing those and
I'll go hop on my treadmill and yeah, I today
is a good day. I've got it right. I've been
doing it right. Well, tomorrow might be different, and that's okay.
That's the thing is everybody gets derailed when they don't
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do it the way they want to do it. Every
day you're not going to do it well. Some people do,
blessed our I love you guys, but most people don't
have that luxury that life happens and it pulls your
schedule and you know, or you have the little kids,
oh you know, them being home or them being sick
in school, calling or whatever it is. You know, it's
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a quickly derail you. Yeah, Like on my insme, we
brought in a beg of red liquorice.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I'm like, oh no, there goes the diet red liquorice.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Or I remember when CALLI was growing up, I would
I sign up for exercise classes and well of that
shot to heck because i perse calendar was like taking
her to dance and taking her here and taking her there,
and I never got to do stuff like that because
I never fit in my schedule. So you just have
to be give yourself grace and do the best you
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can and every day start over and try to do better.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Okay, so we're we're the percolate people, going to staff
the percolate the percolate people. So we're going to have
percolate health. We're going to have people percolate health. So
what would we like people to do as we talk
about percolating health?
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I mean, is it as easy as saying.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
In the mirror or whatever to yourself a bunch of times,
I am healthy, I am healthy, I am Does that work?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Do you think? Absolutely? That helps? For sure? Affirmations are very,
very powerful. But I also want people to ask themselves
the question. And I'm a big fan of baby steps.
I call them big steps. You are, Yeah, And I
want people to ask themselves, you know, if there's one
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area of health that I would like to improve, Like
for me, it's my goal for twenty twenty five is
to be pain free. You know, that's a goal. I
might get there twenty percent of the time thirty who knows,
but that's my goal. So pick what it is for
you one thing, and then what are the baby steps
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you can take, because it takes thirty days to break
a habit so and form a new one. So be
gentle with yourself around one thing, baby steps with one thing.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
And I take a goal, like a big, a big notion.
Like let's say I said I would like to in
the best shape of my life at age fifty five
for twenty twenty five going into fifty six. So I
break that down and I think, okay, well that's going
to mean some changes to food, water, Exercise's there. It's
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probably more the consistency based on maybe the weather or
the way I'm feeling or whatever. Work gets that kind
of thing. So the consistency for me could be so
take one of those areas. Take and we talked about
this in Perkly, and we talked about this in our
books and invest ever unit What you mean is to like,
so take water, for example, drink the right amount of
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water for thirty days in a row, and you habit
that's starting to form. What I sometimes do with people
is at the thirty day mark, I'm like, a great job.
Even if you had to reset in those thirty days,
you don't have to set all over again. Just keep going.
A bad day or a bob will keep going. It's
thirty days, right, and then at the end of the
thirty days you could maybe even introduce a new habit.
(25:59):
You start a second one and keep the first one going,
so you have two things working.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
You know, by the end of ninety days.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
If you do that, you've made some pretty major changes
that were like tiny shifts, right, the.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Little things can really matter. And yeah, I mean my
doing ten glasses of water a day is going to
be huge for me and get out of my way
when I'm making my way to the bathroom. But you know,
it's it's what I need to do to decrease my pain.
So yeah, I'm going to do it, and I am
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and I'm you guys are all witnesses for me right now.
We are your accountability partner, my accountability partners that I'm
going to be peeing ten times a day.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Check in on that, Katie, just check it on you kid.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
You can you know, you can do on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
You can do like Instagram stories with Count Dracula, like
one of the day is ten you know, something funny
or it's just for your updates of your accounting. Oh boy,
that's pretty funny. We don't need a live cam or
anything though. We just need no please now, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
But that's real life. That's that's very much real life,
and it's real aging, and it's my real life. And
everybody else has their stuff, you know, some people have
chronic other things, and and so I think, like that
conversation with my friend yesterday said was what can we do?
That's the question to always ask yourself what can I do?
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Not focusing on what you no longer can do, but
what can I still do? And what do I want
to do? And what do I need to do? Those
are really important questions related to health and anything. And
graceful aging is all about those changes that happen, being
able to ask yourself, Okay, what's my baby's step forward?
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What do I need? Yeah? I was.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I was having my pamper day at the spa yesterday
getting my hair done and I had to switch to
a new hair dresser because the other lady left.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
And she was a hi Kelly.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
She was a blonde just like just like me, about
my height, same exact age, and she had a year
or two under me.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
But general just.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Really good shape, nails done, hair done, everything done, And
I'm like, what are you doing She's like, I walk yeah,
because I thought I judged her and I said, you
you're so in shape, you seem like a runner. And
she goes, oh god, I hate running. I'm like, yeah,
it was kindred sisters, because I hate running too, and
I can honestly use.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
The word hate there.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
But she walked. She said, you know, walking is like
the best thing ever. I'm like, are you one? Are
you walking walking? Like walking running? She said no, just walking,
and then she said she does bar.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Oh yeah, bar is great for you, and I love that. Yeah,
I'm I had to adjust because I was doing during COVID.
I started using a growing machine and I love it,
love love love rowing. It's really therapeutic. It's very soothing.
But after the embolism, I'm like, I can't do that now,
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and so I have to adjust now to doing walking
on a treadmill when it's crapped out right now.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Well, we get thrown for a loop when it's not summer,
and I get thrown for.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
A loop when there's no pool open, because.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
All summer long, I'm swimming and I feel like I'm
getting my exercise in in an easy way that isn't
annoying to me. Ye you know, I'm not braving ice
or the wind or the rain or the whatever it
is to walk. So I have a treadmill. I think
treadmills are so boring though, I just.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Want to be out swimming. I'm the outside.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
But I would joke a all all summer along with it,
because I'm like, I wonder what it would cost to
enclose this or have like a you know, like a
sports retractable dome over it. So in the summertime it's open,
and in the wintertime it's closed and you're swimming and
it's a fortune. But but little goals. But yeah, I know,
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I get thrown for a loop when the pool is
is out because I'm out there and I'll do like
water aerobics almost out in the pool. And then we
got in a class with a cap on and in
your swimming suit in front of everybody and all that
stuff that I just don't love.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Right, Yeah, I just I I have the problem where
too many people know me too, and having somebody buck
naked and start bocking me as if I'm their therapist
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in a pool in a in a locker room, so
I actually have to go to a place further away.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
And that's funny. That happened to me at the Planet
Fitness in Belmouth the last time I went. Somebody, I mean,
I am like, I am a hair on top of
my head, no makeup on everything like that. And so
I was like, you're the author of that book The Change.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Can I take a picture with you?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
And I'm like, yes, lasty same No, I'm like, oh, like,
can you photoshop it?
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Can you make me look fifteen pounds dinner?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I don't know, you know kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
That was bizarre, and you know, it's a cute problem
to have, and it was cute in the moment. I
was grateful and all that stuff, but in my head
I had a thousand things playing. I'm like, sure or whatever.
But if anyone.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Don't post it, you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I don't know. If anybody who knows me it is
listening to this, please don't come up to me buck
naked in the in the locker rooms. It's just not comfortable. Sorry,
I can't have an intimate conversation when you're both flying.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Funny, actually, so.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Let me tell you about my day.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
You're not serious.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yes, I know what happens. Yeah, I get it. Like
once a therapist, always a therapist, no matter where you are.
It's really tack down to tell you everything. Oh yeah,
I know, I hear you.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
So what else? What else we got?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
We always we said that we were always going to
talk about our books on these just to just to
remind people that were you know, I wouldn't call it
starving authors.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
But well I had. I had a really beautiful moment
this week book My one of my dear friends who
lost her mom posted that she read my book after
her mom died and that how much it really meant
to her. And and really, when you write a book, folks,
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that's why you write a book. You write a book
because you want people to be improved by the book.
You want their life to get easier, you want their
best self to come through from the book. And so
I'm really proud of that. That is something that if
you know of anybody who's struggling with loss or change
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or transition, that's what my books are about. And my
book is about and I really I love the fact
that someone that people are being helped by it, and
just like yours, I mean, Elizabeth your books too. People
are changing their lives because of your guide books, and
(33:35):
I think that that's what I want people to recognize
around us being authors, is like you know, it's it's
really we want all that work to matter. We want
to help the We've got wisdom in these books that
aren't all ours. It's also other people's wisdom. In my book.
There's really inspiring stories in Elizabeth books. They're inspiring story worries.
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We want that wisdom to get out there because that's
why we did it. That's why we did it, And
there's no other reason you write a book. You don't
write a book other than to help other people get
yourself tepic book. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Actually I told you you know that I was going
to read your book like word by like actually word
by word, which slows me down in my reading because
sometimes I'm a fast reader and I kind of get
the gist of it and things like that.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
So I'm back reading it.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Word by word actually and like marking things and stuff
like that this time around.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I have to do that.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Sometimes with books they go through three or four times.
But there's there's a bunch of sentences in here. First
of all, I want to talk to you about bullying.
If you don't mind, if it's a bad topic, let
me know what's in here though, So you know, now
I've been bullied as a kid and as an adult, both,
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you know, just funky moments were people do really really
mean things.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
But you've got quite a bullying story in here.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah, I do. I was followed home from school with
them throwing rocks at me and they didn't hit me.
They threw them around me, but they terrified me. And
it was three, it was a few miles home, and
I just really what I learned from that is I
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kept a focus on peace the whole time. I kept
just honoring my belief that love and peace are most important,
and I kept just kind of focusing on that so
I wouldn't get scared. And I think that when bullying happens,
obviously you don't want to put yourself in a scary
(35:47):
situation where you're at risk. That's absolutely number one. But
I learned pretty quickly that they were not going to
hurt me because they didn't. They could have, but they didn't.
So I instead, to get through that period of time,
I just held this vision of love and love and
kindness and and that helped me. Like just like when
(36:10):
I talked about when with my health scare, if you
breathe into love and kindness, you'd be surprised how much
you can get through even the toughest situation. It really
does help to for your mind, your body, your spirits,
and your emotions to come together. And of course it
(36:31):
also didn't hurt that my mother knew about it and
she went to the principal and raised bloody hell. But
that happens the flip as well. When that happens, then
it's like you're you get the retribution too.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Now let me take a moment here, though, and till
I'm gonna It's gonna be a stretch, but I'm gonna
do it anyway.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I want to tie that.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
I want to tie these moments if I can, from
childhood anything into health today.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah, I think I think it's super connected.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah, a lot of the things that we do as
an adulter this or that from this or that that
maybe healed, might be unhealed, it might be triggered.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
It might be this or that.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
But you know there's a moment in here. Can I
read from this instead of shure, it's a moment in
here where you talk about Reese's peanut butter cups.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Oh yeah, yeah. I was growing up in a period
of time where I was really being bullied, being put down.
I was heavy, I felt badly about myself. I was
being put I was constantly being ridiculed, and I just
turned to chocolate because it was that endorfit.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Right.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
And now I know that I had insulin resistance because
I actually went to the Joscelyn Clinic when I was
fifteen and they said, oh, you have slow insulin. Well
they didn't know what that was back then, Well now
I do. Well. Of course I was craving chocolate and
sugar because my insulin was really slow, and so I
never got full. So there was a combination of an
(38:08):
emotional need to nurture myself and also this physical need
that I was satisfying. So my health was definitely impacted
by that and by the inflammation that probably happened, and
then of course I developed into metriosis, and that story
(38:29):
continues way into infertility and all kinds of stuff. So yeah,
it can really impact your body when you go through stressful, difficult,
traumatic moments, because the body remembers the body remembers, and
for me, as I was writing the book, I was like, oh, wow,
(38:52):
this is really awful.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Chocolate chocolate.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
No interested, I didn't because I was healed, I know.
But I think that that's really important for people to
recognize that your body will give you these signals, and
it's not always because you don't have the willpower. Sometimes
(39:18):
it has nothing to do with willpower. It has to
do with your body has something biochemically going on that
when you're in an emotional stress situation, you're not as
able to control it. Yes, So that's where I learned
from writing the book to give myself grace that sometimes
(39:39):
things are harder to do, and when you're in physical pain,
it's really hard to exercise.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yeah, yeah it is, and it is and I've been
there too and I get it.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
And yeah, yeah, So there's definitely a body kind and.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Quite some help today for everybody, wellness and well being
for everybody this week. And I hope I know we're
going to go here in a minute, but you know,
I hope conversations like this that are real, even rambly
at moments. You know, it's not we we have not
we don't script these things. We just are getting on
here and kind of talking about what we feel like
(40:21):
talking about and stuff. But I hope it resonates with
people and and and people have that moment where they're like, oh, Okay,
I'm not alone.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
That's what I want.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
I don't like that that people feel alone. It really
bothers me a lot. I'm like, I don't want people
to feel alone. You are. You've definitely got us, So
comment or call us or.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
And we're trying to be real here. You know that
that that we have physical and health issues that we
combat every day, and so you do too, and honor
at under that. Talk about it, talk about it with us,
talk about it with others, but own it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
And in the food allergy community, if you're watching this,
you know I'm right here. You know I have life
threatening food allergies. I have four life threatening food allergies
on board. So I have anaphyl access to peanut, tree,
nut fish, and shellfish, and I have a medical alert
on And I remember when somebody first suggested I wear
a medical alert, I'm like, I'm not not putting a
label on me if something wrong. I remember I thought
(41:26):
I was going to get fired for my job. If
somebody saw it, so I was it in my pocket.
I would wear it around my neck and hide it.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
And people like you.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Don't understand like if something happens to you that the
emergency teams are trained to like see that and flip
it over and and all this like, oh I get it,
so it's life saving huh.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
No kind of thing. But you know, it's it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
How how people want to My point is, you know
people want to hide what's wrong?
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Right they do?
Speaker 3 (41:59):
People hide pop? Go ahead?
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Sorry, Well what I was going to say is they
used to be but ugly, but hey now they're really pretty.
So you know we we can Oh we're a medical alert. Yea,
we have our medical a braises and boy that's enough
talk about aging. But yeah, it's why hide it and
why I mean life, life is really important and those
(42:25):
things matter, and why take the ten minutes away from
your good health care treatment by not having this and
not letting them see it when you're not able to
articulate it, Like.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Let's hold it up one more time. Here's our medical alerts. Okay,
mind's blue? Yeah yeah, so yeah, I help medical alert
design the ones for kids years and years thousand years
ago now because kids needed them different than these and
needed bands and things like that.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
So I helped with that.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
But let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Look at us, everybody, take a look at us. Can
you tell anythings I'm gonna use a word wrong for
lack of a better thing. Can you tell that we
have anything going on?
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:13):
I mean I might have ten pounds on me or whatever.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Don't don't go there. Somebody be like, yes, you need
to lose weight.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Okay, thanks, Yeah no, but I mean, can you tell
there's a chronic health issue going on?
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:23):
No, they you know you can't. So so my point
is is that you know, take a pause around people
and enact kindness and pause and grace and compassion and
all those things that we talk about with people, because
you have absolutely no idea what's going on in the background,
right for human beings like and what they're going through,
(43:45):
what they're suffering through, what they're trying to work on.
You know, it goes on and on, you know exactly.
I mean, yeah, and I think that we.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Need to talk about our health conditions. And you know,
you mentioned it's food alogies. I write a lot in
my book about my infertility and being part of that
club that I never wanted to be part of. Ady
out there who wants to talk about that. That's a
very hard thing when your body won't do what you
(44:16):
want it to do and everyone else around you is
having children, and so sometimes it can feel extremely lonely.
So yeah, our bodies are our team. We're teams, and
they don't our teammates don't always give us what we want.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
I had the cute I gotta tell you, I had
the cutest experience with our neighborhood. So we had a
neighborhood pot luck two weekends ago, and everybody brought food,
and our neighborhood was so cool. They labeled everything for
me like don't eat this, this is good to go
have it all day long, you know, I mean they
wrote the ingredients down, they did it like that is
(44:55):
so sweet. And it was for another person too, but
it was so thoughtful and so kind. And I tell you,
there were two new neighbors here and there are people
who labeled things and stuff like that, and that kind
of are you okay atness? Then to me, because usually
I feel like a goofball. Usually I feel like a
(45:16):
fish out of water. When you put a bunch of
people around me in food and I'm like, well, I
can't eat anything, especially if you baked goods or made
by other people. I'm like, I'm not risking it. Yeah,
really socially awkward. So that was so cool.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yeah, it is, and that those kinds of things matter,
they really do. I mean, I'm part of a women's
group and I can't stand up very long because of
what happened in my leg, and so like right now
I have my foot on a stool and I have
to put my foot on a stool, and these women
are so great. They make sure that I have a
(45:49):
pillow on it, and you know, they're so nurturing around. Well,
where's your stool? We want to make sure that you
stay there and know we're not going to stand up.
We're going to you know, we're gonna honor. Yeah. Pay
attention to everybody. Pay attention to the people's health, other
people's health, your own. Start with you and model for
other people. Taking care of your health and doing the crazy,
(46:13):
stupid creative things you need to do if you need to.
I'm gluten free, I need to bring my own food sometimes,
you know, because it just you do.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
So do it.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
That's that's our point. Do what you need to do.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Love it all right, anything else. So we got Uplifting.
I think the one I'm going to hold up this
week is The Change Guidebook. And yeah, yeah, I just
put this one up. So these two books that we
would love for you to find here, they are Uplifting
and the Change Guidebook. These they go hand in hand.
We always talk about change and success and gratitude. And
(46:51):
you know, you are such a beautiful writer, just so
everybody knows, like, you know, I need I need editors
and things like that. Katie is one of the most
beautiful writers. And so it's been fun to go through
your book word by word and you know, and we're
writing together again. So I'm like, there you are, you
know kind of thing, just eloquently put.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
But I love this.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
The challenges served as catalysts for their growth in what
they viewed as better or more authentic versions of themselves.
Yeah yeah, there, I mean there's some really they learned
to leverage loss and champion change by connecting consciously or unconsciously.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Choosing to reflect that scared me.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
I'm like alarmed.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Yeah, choosing to reflect, reassess redefine and recreate some or
many aspects of their lives. They listen, there's a choice point.
When they took time to address their mental, physical, emotional,
and spiritual messages and change their mindset. They lifted themselves up.
That's what we're talking about today.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Yeah, it is lift yourself up with your health and
and then lift others.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
Yeah, yes, ye, all right, everybody, thanks for being here
with us. Katie as always, lovely to see you and
here everyone.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Be well, be well, be well. Health, percolate health, percolate
health absolute. All right, okay, bye,
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