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we have a guest. So wehave a professional pro wrestler, pro strong
man, I have BB Pro Bodybuilderand let me tell you something right now.
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Because of him, I've been out, I was able to meet Nick,
I was able to join the crew, I was able to branch out
into so many different things. ButJohn Anderson is with us. Thank you
so much for joining us on theBest Experience. Absolutely, thank you guys
for having me. This the timingwas perfect. I was available all actuality.
We were just doing another one actuallyin all actuality. Well, we'll
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talk about this now for something foryou guys to look out for coming up
pretty fast. We John and Iand even Ben are doing Elite Ageless Mindset.
Now. John is one of themost driven people you were meet,
very well put together, knows whathe's doing, very organized, and he's
got ways of setting things up.And he's one of the most successful businessmen
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you will ever see. He's allself made. So it's kind of interesting
to pick his brain on my showthis time you always see see what motivates
you, what drives you, Howdid you come up with all with with
your training, business and everything allthe way around, because people don't really
realize just how successful you are atthis. Well, it's kind of a
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I think if you were to boilit down and look at the one thing
that allowed all this to happen wouldbe for progression. Because I'm I'm I
guess I'm as you said, I'mdriven, and I'm happier moving than sitting
still. And sometimes when you're moving, you're moving the wrong way, but
you're still finding opportunities or you're maybeyou're moving the wrong way, but you
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get bounced back the right way.But if you're sitting still, nothing's going
to happen. And so I mean, goodness, I've had my first real
win as an entrepreneur. I createda business and sold it for a half
million bucks in my shit, mymid twenties. So you came out of
college. I mean I went tocollege. I have a most people don't
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know. I have a major intheology and a minor philosophy from the University
of Theologyology major in my philosophy.Not to be confused with Portland State.
This was a small Catholic school upin Portland. And so I guess there's
just people tend to look at usbeing big, strong dudes, but they
don't understand that there's a lot morebehind it, you know, damning anybody,
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because there are so many strong dudeswho ended up trading their lives to
be a big strong guy because theydidn't have They didn't take that drive and
put it into all airs and thelives. They just kept it in the
gym. And that wasn't me.I would be you know, I took
that basically, that drive for thegym, and I turned it into everything.
Now what gave me that drive?I was basically a challenge little guy
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wopping wopping learning disabilities, as wealways joke, we got dyslexia, Nick,
And there's probably more to it thanthat was besides dyslexia. But in
those days, they didn't have allthese names and you know, so CD
and all this shit. They justsaid he's slow. Put him over there.
And so I was in, I'msure you've double the same thing,
brother, you know. So basicallyI was I had to learn I didn't
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as a little guy. The lastthing you want to do is be exile.
All you want to do is belike everyone else. And then you
quickly learned you get older, youdon't want to be like everyone else.
But I was you, you're trying. I'm trying to fit in. So
I was b busting my hump justtrying to get back into normal classes.
And so I had to learn towork I say, twice as hard,
so I would probably even say threetimes as hard of different elements to get
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to where I could actually be withthe rest of my classmates. And I
mean it was like I told mymom going to junior high, I said,
listen, I said, get meout of those classes. I said,
I'll find a way. I don'twant to go into junior high and
put into that room again. Andso she went and talked to them and
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basically forced them to put me intonormal classes. And it was a hell
of a shock, but I wasable to use that work ethic keep my
head above water. Just barely,but I did it. And that right
there is my biggest blessing I everhad, other than my kids. But
if I hadn't actually shit, Imight even have my kids if I didn't
have this early blessing. So butthat was it. It was like that.
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So for all of you guys thatthink, oh, man, your
story is, oh, I'm thisway because of that. Now you got
to flip that script. Because ofthat that challenge that should be a strength
because you learn to overcome it,which makes you stronger, which makes you
better at moving forward. So yourstory needs My story is, yes,
I was a pathetical little sin ofa bitch. That's why I am who
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I am today in a good way. Don't let that story be oh,
I was a pathetical little son ofa bitch. That's why I have this
job I don't like and I'm nothappy with my life, blah blah blah.
No, no flip that shit.It's not a crutch you can lean
on. It's something to motivate yourselfexactly, long term, exactly. So
basically, from there, I discoveredweightlifted and quickly realized I was better at
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weightlifting than I was the sports Iwas playing. And but the main thing,
I was finally good at something andthat just for me, that was
it, and it was like everythingjust started falling into place. I was
taking that work ethic and I wasapplying it in the weight room and getting
started happening for me. I wasI was. I guess I was.
You could say I was happy becauseI was making progress. It was an
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actual tangible way for me to seeI was making progress versus all everywhere else
in my life. I was bustingmy ass, and it was it was
harder to see the progress because itwas busting my ass just to just to
keep my my head above. I'mbusting my ass and I'm actually like it.
Became the second junior in my highschool squad four five, and that
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was that was big. That completelychanged my status. Walking down the hall
overnight, it was like I'm stilljust as there. I was just the
same, It's just now everybody viewedme differently because all of what nobody could
see what I was doing finally cameto the forefront. I was like,
WHOA, I can get used tothis. It's pretty neat. It's pretty
neat when that change happens in highschool too, they went from everybody picking
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on me to everybody like, we'renot doing that, And it was like
it was just like for me,it was like I had this feeling I
had never experienced before, and allI wanted was more of that, and
it was it was you know,I'm not drug user, but I can
only imagine that there's there's there's nothingthat feels as good as basically getting credit
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for something that you've worked so hardfor. And the best part about it
is is you just the more thatyou want to get call it high of
your own feeling, the better yourlife gets. As to we all know,
drugs make your life worse. Sofor those of you that are in
pursuit of hi, the in pursuitof a high that your brain will give
you from busting your ass because thedrugs, the drugs that your brain gives
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you are far better than the oneyou can buy on the street or get
from the doctor. And so sothat basically that's the drive. That's where
the drive came from. And andso I went to college with the idea
that I knew that I wanted tobe a big, strong dude and didn't
have any clue what I wanted todo. Besides that, I just knew
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that that was my calling. Iwas like, I really didn't care about
anything else. I was still eighteennineteen, so the reality of having to
make money really hadn't said in yet. Well I go. I check into
college about one eighty, I comeout about two sixty five. It was
five years. So I was relentless. Though keep in mind my day was
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designed around my training. I didn'tdrink. I mean, most college kids
spend most of their lives drunk.That was not me. I was focused
from the jump. And so basicallyI graduated college. I have no intention
of getting a job. I neverdid. I was like, it's not
what I want. I don't wantto get in a car and go sit
in traffic and go to some jobI don't want to do. I was
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I was living my passion. Ididn't want to give that away. And
so I graduated college and I thought, well, I guess I need to
try to start a business because it'llgive me the time I need to continue
to do what I want to doand pursue my dreams. And I knew
I want at that point. Iknew I thought I wanted to be a
pro bodybuilder at that point because thatwas what was just the magazines. It
was easiest to see what was goingon, you know, a strong man
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wasn't as visible. There was nomagazine. You could catch it weird times
on the end. Plus, asa as a youngster, my mom I
didn't have TV because she knew itwould make my problems worse. So I
never I didn't really start watching TVuntil Jesus later in high school and you
just had a bedtime and the World'sStrongest Man was always on these wee hours
in the morning. So I nevereven saw the TV show till I was
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probably I never saw the TV showtill I was probably twenty two years old.
Wow. Anyway, so I gotbasically started a few businesses and they
failed. But even my failure wassomething I had learned to pursue. I've
been told I couldn't my whole life, So there's no difference when adults started
telling me, I've been my kidshave been telling me that my whole life.
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And of course it was rough failing, but you just realized I got
to get up and do it again. And so my first business I came
back to. Funny enough, oneof the first ones was actually a food
prep business, way ahead of histime, way ahead of its time.
I was bundling up in the littlethings the whole deal, was making them
myself. I didn't care what Ihad to do. I just didn't want
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to go get a job. Itwas actually successful, it did really well,
but the logistics killed me driving arounddropping these things off the gyms.
I was selling it, and theproblems they were spoiling too quick. So
I was like, that's what killedme, you know, is it was
all fresh, real food anyway,So that failed, and I was like,
well, I guess I better go. I'm at this point I don't
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have any money. Just to demonstratehow much money I didn't have, you
know, I was living with friendsand I had no money to eat,
so I would go into literally Safewaywas the grocery store that was prevalent in
where I lived, and I wouldwalk around and I would eat, and
then I would leave the store.I didn't have I didn't carry anything out
of my pockets. I would justeat it. I would just the only
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thing I was carrying out of therewas in my stomach. And so I
did that for you know, I'mtrying to do it everything. It was
always looking for ways to find food, but that if I had sixty cents
in my pocket, was walking acrossthe way to eat it safely because there
was one right across from where Iwas staying anyway, So that kind of
demonstrates where I was. And Iwas like, well, I guess I
better start a business with something Ihave a little little bit more experience with.
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So that was paint. I paintedin college, and basically it was
just me walking up to houses thatneed a paint job. Hey, the
door to door, I'll paint yourhouse for fifte hundred bucks and you could
do it in a week. Sofor a college kid a couple hundred bucks
in paint and make the twelve hundredbucks in a week, get a buddy
of mine to help me do it. I was like, OK, it
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was great in college. Well nowlet's turn this into a business. So
I started knocking on even more doorsas a business. First year completely illegal,
I didn't even it was. Ihad literally nothing. I borrowed some
money from my mom and I hadthis little Beater truck and that was the
business right there and anyway, soI knew what I could do. I
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knew that I could get a coupleof houses on my belt. I at
number one, I could start eating, or two I could get a place
to live, and basically come thatup. Five years later, year two,
I was completely legit. And fiveyears at the five year mark,
end of five years, twenty employees, and I was told the son of
a bitch for half of the bucks. Yeah, that was my first real
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win, and like the universe waslining up for me because my training is
I'm just a beast at this point, I'm still don't have the confidence of
my physical ability because I carried thatforward. And one of my buddies said
to me, was one of myearly training in the GM and no one
could touch you. He said,listen, I know you're afraid to go
compete, because I'm very honest withhim, and he's like, if you
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won't do it for you do itfor me. He goes, I'm not
strong enough. And I worked andhe worked hard and worked hard together.
He's like, we worked hard together, and I was like, God,
damn it a bit, She's right. So I signed up for my first
drama contest and so I traveled toNew Mexico. Boom won that contest and
then uh one in between and wonmy pro card my third drama contest,
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which was the Azelia Fest. Thenthat's where I came to Las Vegas Nick
to do my first, my fourthever contest in Las Vegas, Mark Phillipy's
show there, and that got meinto story Man and I was scared to
death man, scared of death,but thank god they started off the contest
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one of my strengths. So itwas a cleaning press for reps overhead and
I won the event as a asa rookie in the and I was like,
Okay, that gave me the confidenceI needed to boost off and place
in wellnoughs, qualify for nationals,and the rest is history. And so
basically that work ethic, I meanthat drive. You spoke about just everything
and from there went from brom into wrestling, wrestled Japan, little Mexico,
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two, a little in the USby primarily Japan. Then, you
know, in forty two, Iwas like, well, ship, what
am I going to do? Now? Still got that thing in me though,
you know. So I came homeI said, well ship, man,
I'm goause theody a bodybuilding to try. People. Are you forty two?
What are you out of your mind? I said? Listen, I
said, I've been told that stuffin my whole life. You know you're
right, but I'm gonna give ita crack. Well in my first client.
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Keep in mind, at that pointI'm showing up in into bodybuild.
I'm already I'm a three hundred pounddude. You know, It's like all
the building is over. I justneed to pick up some weak spots and
learn learn the craft of getting reallylean for the stage, and so win
my first contest, qualify for nationals, go to the second one. Win
that one boom, I'm pro andtwo contests which put me in a really
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small school of people who had everwon their pro their pro card and two
contests. I believe I'm one offive. And my third ever bodybuilding contest
was my pro debut, you know, and of course it was a little
rattling, but you know, she'sbeen kind of doing this ship my whole
life in terms of you know,jin I mean, my my fourth ever
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strong man contests as that's in Vegasand I'm competing against guys that I've been
watching on television, you know,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
I mean, and then and thenthe same thing with with wrestling.
I didn't you know, I hadabout wrestling. I just basically, you
know, and I got my firstcontract in Japan, like my second match,
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and which was really because the wayI look, you know, you
know, a little forthcoming with whatI said, my experience was. Then
I got in there and I gotbutts out of the seats, you know,
ed up what I did, butI did so I got you know,
off, So you know, itwas singing with bodybuilding, yeah,
a little daunting, but I've beenyou know, I was used to being
the new guy with no experience,and so I just did off I went.
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And then so this whole story leadsup to your question about my current
coaching business. Brother. So,and we're getting and we're getting close,
baby, we're getting close. Soanyway, so what are your pro bodybuilders?
So what do you do you opena gym. That's what pro bodybuilders
do. And I was like,you know, that was a dream.
I always wanted to have a gym, you know, from this PLU guy.
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So opened my gym. It didreally well and it was so perfect.
It was like two mile house.It was. It was kind of
for everything that it was. Itwas a gym, but we had you
know, we powerlifters. You camethere next you saw it was a little
place, but people came there andthe membership was spending because they were coming
to specialize, which was perfect becauseI had all this experience and it was
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like, you know, it wasit was just kind of a I had
bodybuilders, you know, strong menand women, powerlifting people. There even
had an Olympic team. We hadan Olympic coach. He was at my
Olympic coach because that's some really technicalship. But anyway, so it's going
well and next thing, you know, Pizard to call the gym said hey,
can you coach me? And I'mlike, yeah, where do you
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live. I'm thinking they live acrossthe Bay or something, you know,
because coming from the East Bay tomy place, they're like, uh,
Missouri, Arkansas, you know,oh, okay doing this over the phone,
They're like yeah, I said,okay. Well, quickly I realized
that coaching from a more grand scalegave me the ability to get the people
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I wanted to work with. Also, it didn't limit me to a to
a jig. As a gym,you're only going to get so far away.
People aren't going to travel three hoursto you. I mean they do
it for like attrition here and there, but no with no regularity. And
so I quickly realized, holy shit. I was like this, this is
there's something going on here. BecauseI started, I just ran it through
my gym. At first, I'mlooking at the reports in the month,
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going God, damn, this isall from people that aren't even here.
There's no overhead. And so Itold my wife, I said, look,
I said, you you take thereins on the gym. I'm just
gonna tuck my ass in the officeand see what I could do with with
this, you know business. Andbut I say, I lean on it.
You know. You know what Imean when I lean and I attacked
it, you know, yeah,I mean basically evolved into a seven figure
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business really quickly. And I waslike, whoa, And they keep in
mind. It's you got to understandthat a business like that does that not
because you just try to sell abunch of shit. You do it because
changing people's lives. And I lovedit because I was changing so many more
people's lives. And you know,I mean I was from wives of the
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people that came into the program.I thank you so much. He's got
more energy, he does his honeydewlist, we have a great sex life
again. So we're like, I'mbringing back quality of life to people that
you know that they were over thehill. And it was like it was
like, holy smokes. That's why. You know, when your people say
the more value you bring to theworld, the more money you're going to
make, that statement is so true. You know, you tell a turd
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and expect you're going to get rich, But you might fool people at first.
As soon as they figure out yousold them a turd, they're not
coming back, you know. Sobasically, you know, when it comes
to entrepreneurship, it's just you know, and of course that's that's my coaching
business. There's offsprings and I've hadplenty of the stuff that we're not talking
about. But really, when itcomes down to it. My creative side,
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it's that I love to create somethingI love to, you know,
especially, and the theme is it'sgot to help people, you know.
Clothing line. My clothing line isabout, you know, basically saying no
mental weakness. I'm not going touse the word. I'm not cuss on
your show, you know, butit's like saying, you know, ask
weakness excuses and it's just like that, the little things that can play in
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your head to help you get outof your chair. Yeah, I've got
created an offspring of the coaching businessand it's all about basically and you know,
everything that we're dealing, which I'mreally excited about because if you strip
all of it away, the thingthat's you know, their step in helping
someone is all right here. Yes. So the fact that we're on our
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new adventure together, brother, we'reattacking this whole thing that that really needs
to be the first step. Thehardest part is that most people don't realize
that's got to be the first step, you know. And I mean,
let long winded story would be aperfect example, and I'm not I developed
that first step out of necessity justto survive, and because that became well
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I am. It's just like I'mgonna put it over here. I'm gonna
put it over here. You know, they take that same stuff you put
it in parenting, you put itinto you know, your friends and family
and your wife, and it justbecomes you know, it's life is good.
What else can I say? That'sit, you know, long winded
answer to a short question, butthere you go. Baby. Oh yeah,
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because, like I said, theset in the example that you put
off. Like I said, I'vebeen working with John for man, it's
got to be three years now,maybe a little longer, and just everything
that I've learned from you, frombeing and your presence of how we communicate,
how we talk, how we planthings, or how things are set
up. It's like because like likeI said, it's like, uh,
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a lot of us don't know whatto do or how to do it,
or how to speak, how toplan, or even how to project what
you want. Like how you alwaystalk about in the mindset like I knew
do this, I want to dothis, but we always have that mental
block and a lot of those blockshave been smashed because just from the way
we always handle things and the waythings that are always taken care of.
Like I said, it's you know, you put me on a new mental
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level of how I look at mylife and how I want to do things
as I've always had that same thing, where like I world is against me,
it's stopping me, it's not lettingme do anything. And I stop
thinking like that, and I stoppedtrying to have that there, and it's
like, no, this what I'mgoing to do. This is how I
do it. I get up everysingle day, I write my ideas,
I write my plans, I writemy feelings, and I write exactly what
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I want to do out every singleday because that's the only way shit gets
done. Yeah, it's it's likeprogram Our minds are like computers. It's
like pre computers. I mean,that's what I did with my own journey
and I and and I just kindof stealed it down to the simple formula
that translates really well, and thenyou got to make it where people can
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remember. So the formula. Ifyou guys ever join us on our on
Nick and our show, Nick andMy Show, where we're talking about strategies
for for you know, message threeageless mindset, Yes's mindset. It's exactly
it's three two one. I meanit's three is three things you're going to
be positive about for today. Thetwo things the two p's is your purpose.
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What are you how do you tendto behave to get closer to that
goal? And the number one ismy favorite, is the purse. What
are you going to remove? Andso when you wake up every day and
you do what Ben's talking about andyou format it in a way because we're
not talking about to do list,to do list is great. This is
how you actually are going to behave. This is how you're going to react
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to the world. This is howthis is like a dare of mindset.
You know, you can start acrack through you can crack through a to
do list, you know, atthe rest of your life and make the
same dumb mistakes you make every dayand you won't make any progress. You
know, Ben, I thank youfor saying that, brother, because that's
one thing, I mean is huge. So to hear you say all that
stuff makes me really happy because youknow, that's one thing that I'm really
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focused on now is I've been sofocused on changing clients, which is great
and I'm not going to stop doingthat, but I'm definitely realizing that the
next layer of this for me isto change the lives of the people on
my team, and obviously been You'rea piece of my team. So Nick,
we're we're parted up in a businesstoo, which is great, you
know, and there's nothing better thanI'm not sitting here. Yeah, I'm
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not saying I don't go to theWorld's Strongest Man. Ever. I don't
go to IF's the world. Idon't go to nationals. I don't go
to the contest to become a strongman. It was the contest that I
saw you competing in, Yeah,that the Philippine put on that I was
just like, this is freaking cool. I'm watching you go. I know
how strong are because I think wedid a power to meet together. I
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want to say in Lovado, wellwe because we remember we crossed past very
first in uh and uh yes,Santa Rosa in Santa Rosa. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, that's way wayback way back early nineties. Yeah,
like yeah, I say, ninetytwo, ninety three at the latest.
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Yeah, yeah, you're the onlydudes that had the ball because you're back
in those days, you know,you eat powerlifting was not in the forefront
and you were wearing a suit inthe gym and people had no idea what
to think of that. That's true. I did that, sure, I
did. Now, that was exactlyThat's what made us is because we were
focused. We knew what we're doing, we knew what we how we were
going to behave, you know,and yeah, thank you guys for both
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sent It's really cool, man,really really cool, you know, in
a in a joking I guess,factual joking, but kind of also heartbreaking
at the same time. When youwent to IFSA Worlds the first time because
I busted out my knee and Derekmesses back, so you came up two
spots to go. But the beautifulpart was I was like, he's got
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to go do well if he's youknow, And that was the coolest thing.
I was like, Dick, hell, gather for us, baby,
you know, cry now I'm holdingit together. No, the crazy thing
was is we get to if theWorlds. In the first events, the
farmers walk out up your alley,bitch what you needed, you know,
I mean, so new to thesport. It was like, yeah,
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it was just like me having youknow, for the overhead. It was
like, Okay, I'm swings.I feel like I should be here,
you know, for sometimes it does. And the first thing I do is
break the whold. Yeah, yeah, who's that? You know? Yeah
you were coming in. Man,you were a little undersized in the beginning,
but you were so fast. Youknow when I so undersized. Funny
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enough, it's still like to eightyfive. But you know, Abby,
eighty five, we all know thatyou got to get a little bigger than
to eighty five. So I'm talkingstrong man terms, you know, better
size. When I came in too, I came in about your same size,
and they're like, you need toput on about fifteen pounds on my
coaches. Try to do this mywhole life, you know. But it's
awesome how all of our pasts intertwineand we're in and out of each other's
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lives so much. And it's justamazing now at this stage of our lives
that we get to do things togetherand we get to influence other people in
a positive manner and make their livesbetter. And that's what makes things so
fulfilling for me anyway. I likemaking people's lives better. I like giving
them motivation. I just just anumber, and so many people want to
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pack it in and it's like,no, why, yeah, you're thirty,
you're not done. You know whatabout the Brothers. We are having
so much fun with our new projecton a lead age's mindset because we're i
mean basically showing what we're kind oflike a curtain like listen, I just
want to know what goes on toget there. This is the stuff that
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you can't see. This is like, this is behind the training. It's
like, you know, my favoriteTV shows was behind the Music where they
talked, where they talked about thepeople that the musicians' lives and how they
live day to day. This islike behind the strength, behind the training,
behind the eating. It's all thelittle things that go into making all
those things that that most people wantto do possible, you know. And
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it's just it's neat because it's extremelyinformative as well. Yeah, and it's
a man, you know. It'sjust people don't understand just how far the
basic philosophies if you follow them andyou do them, and you execute them,
and you stay on top of it, and you honor commitments that you've
made to yourself and you've honored andyou take care of all these things.
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How it really just is if youdo these processes, it all falls into
place. Yes, yeah, thepress. The fourth P is progress,
and that if you get all threep's, you're always going to have the
fourth P. It's that simple,you were always going to have progress,
and slow, methodical process progress overyears time will put you so far ahead
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of anywhere you could have ever gonebefore. You just don't understand. And
it's that type of mentality that Godis here that we're trying to teach.
Yes, you know, I try. I try to make it really simple
in terms of someone because what youjust said it makes perfect sense. But
let's put it in like a singularone task that most people do every day.
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They're going to brush your They don'thave to think about it, they
just do it. Well, that'sone of a series of habits that you
put into place that you just startto do. And what Nick just said
comes it comes true because you've createda series of behavior patterns in your life,
your daily life, and you makeprogress every day. And like I
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said, our show and our threepiece is all about helping you program that
mind and implement the things you needto do to give what you want and
some people might look at it going, hey, I want to get big
and strong. Some people might lookout of God, I want to get
big, strong and do's better withmy relationships, with my business. It
applies everywhere, you know, everybit of your life, which is so
amazing. Yeah, and the factthat it helps everyone that encounters it is
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just brilliant and I love that.So thank you absolutely absolutely well, John,
Hey, we go on forever.Yeah, because all the time.
But end the show and Nick hasa say, and the saying is just
it's just one of those things thatpeople should always hear, people should always
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know, you know, tell youyou can find an Elite AGI's mindset on
Patreon. The link will be inour show notes. So if you guys
want to come in check that out, see what it's about, learn what
real mindset is and what it takesto possess it, you can easily do
that at Patreon slash them. Linkwill be in the note. So make
sure you guys check it out becauseyou're gonna be able to get a deep
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insight on some of the just likeyou said, behind the scenes of what
it takes to be an elite AGI'smindset. But Nick, take us on
that here and let the people knowwhat they need to hear well as always
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