June 18, 2024 • 40 mins
In this episode of 'The Best Experience' with hosts Nick Best and the Angry Dad, we dive into the world of strongman competitions with special guest Tom Evans. Tom shares his experiences, training tips, and preparations for various events, including the challenges and strategies involved in the squat, deadlift, and stone lifts. He also discusses his recent performance at World's Strongest Man and his adjustments to overcome injuries. This episode is packed with insights for both aspiring and seasoned strongman athletes.
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00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Shoutouts
00:47 Special Guest Introduction: Tom Evans
02:31 Strongman Competitions and Training Insights
05:41 Event-Specific Training and Techniques
11:28 Reflecting on Past Competitions
19:44 Incorporating Zercher Squats
20:36 Upcoming Competitions and Preparations
21:57 Training Techniques and Adjustments
24:54 Balancing Work and Training
29:08 Bicep Injury Recovery Strategies
37:11 Final Thoughts and Advice
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00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Shoutouts
00:47 Special Guest Introduction: Tom Evans
02:31 Strongman Competitions and Training Insights
05:41 Event-Specific Training and Techniques
11:28 Reflecting on Past Competitions
19:44 Incorporating Zercher Squats
20:36 Upcoming Competitions and Preparations
21:57 Training Techniques and Adjustments
24:54 Balancing Work and Training
29:08 Bicep Injury Recovery Strategies
37:11 Final Thoughts and Advice
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Man every show, Tom's Evans,Hey, guys, great and Strongest.
Oh yeah, is there anything I'veyou have to do? It? Giants
Live. That would be the onlybranch of the tree I've not covered at
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this time. Well, reach out, what are you guys? Waiting on.
Well, you know, we're hopingfor some things in the works.
There's been some conversations and I'm hopefulsomething will get you know, worked out
here soon. But we'll see,you know, we'll see. Well,
the one in the Vegas is deadlifting. If if I if I had to
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pick, I think i'd rather lefta long but that's just me. Yeah,
but remember the dead Lift Park.There's only one event, and you're
still going to place higher than youthink at it because they take all the
guys from the Deadlift World Championships outof the mix. Yeah, because there's
only a certain amount that are doingthat, so it's it's actually not as
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bad as you think. Well,I get the then the Vegas, so
that would also be Yeah, comeout and have some fun. Oh absolutely,
And they're shooting here at the range. Oh yeah, that'd be awesome.
That's why you see me in thecar because I'm actually working at the
range. Right. I had tocome out and take my links to do
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this. Well, I appreciate youget you guys doing it early for me
starting to get the bad Easter time. So you excited about the saw extremely
excited? Yeah, Yeah, likelast year was very much like, you
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know, you hear about it,You're like, it's this heavy, it's
this many events, and then youget into it and then it's like,
Okay, it is heavier. Itis even more taxing than I thought it
would be. So I'm excited tobe, you know, a second time
around, have a better idea whatwas coming, you know, And I
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like the competitions. With more events, I think for me, you know,
I can finish it hopefully like topfive and every event, or at
least in the top half, andend up somewhere good and placing. So
I feel pretty confident about that.Weaknesses are getting better and strings are getting
better as well. You'll probably likea lot too, right, Yeah.
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Yeah, I'm really excited for thesquad two overhead events with three disciplines.
That's that's exciting for me. It'llactually only be my second time doing circus
dumb bell, but the training ina lot, I'm really excited to get
to do that one on the preststage. Yeah, it's it's gonna be
pretty cool. Yeah, it's gonnabe fun to watch. Yeah, we
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just went and tested the the bailcarry m hmm. Yeah, that looks
uh, that looks insane. It'sgonna be pretty cool. It's if you
got a good grip, then it'sjust gonna be getting the thing moving.
Yep. Yeah, because I imagineit can feel more like a carry and
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push than just a carry. Correct. Yeah, because those tires are huge
and they're soft, so they're they'repretty rubbery. You're gonna have to push
on it, and it's gonna beon a rubber floor, so you're gonna
have to lean into the thing whenyou're going. Interesting, it's not gonna
be what people think it's gonna be. And then you get to run back
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fifty feet and sit down and dothe arm over arm with that tractor,
and the tractor the way the tiresare in that tractor, the first pole
in the last party are gonna bethe same. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
that's why we were kind of gettingat Yeah. I'm assuming it'll it'll
feel kind of like the safe right, no momentum, maybe a little heavier.
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Yeah, Yeah, it's gonna benot a lot of moments. You'll
get a little bit of momentum outof it, a little bit, but
not a lot. So, Imean, Brian has one technique. I
had another technique. Brian pulled itmuch harder because the actually it's gonna be
neat though, they're gonna be ableto measure the pressure on the things that
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you're putting on them. Yep.So that that's gonna look really cool for
the screen because Brian was pulling likefive hundred and forty pounds of pressure on
the rope. Yeah, and ittakes like two hundred and fifty to move
it, which I know he's toldeverybody I wouldn't be talking about this.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it'son the YouTube. We're good. Yeah
cool. So yeah, it's it'sgonna be pretty serious. Yeah. And
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the consistent, the consistency, theconsistent pull because if drops below two fifty,
it doesn't move, it stops.Yeah, it will stop. So
and it it Brian. It tookBrian a minute, So it's he's one
of the best ever seen. SoI'm threaking there'll be two to three guys
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that might get through the whole thingin the ninety seconds. But it's yeah,
I for some reason I thought itwas gonna be a two minute mark,
but that that's still if Brian tooka mane on it, that's uh,
yeah, there'll be a lot ofthis it's being measured most likely correct.
Yeah, So it's gonna be good, and it's gonna get guys pulling
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to that last second because every inchis gonna count YEP. Absolutely, Yeah,
I'm I'm I'm excited. It's gonnabe funny, and I'm gonna get
in there and talk while you guysare going. So it's gonna be a
blast. Oh that's that's gonna be. That's gonna be a long minute and
a half. But talk about goingdown time excited for the opportunity. Yeah,
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and it's gonna it's gonna look incredible. I mean like having four giant
pieces of form equipment just moving onone go. It's yeah, yeah,
the bail to or the bailer willclear out and then when you pull the
chactors back, the only thing comingback out you're gonna be the chapters.
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So it's gonna be it's gonna bepretty neat to watch, awesome. It's
gonna be visually really cool. Ilike the device you came up with to
do the arm over arm with too. Yeah, because that seat that's gonna
move and stuff is if the guysare smart, which I wasn't as smart
as I should have been I shouldhave been using my legs. But if
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the guys are smart and they usetheir legs, it's gonna help help a
lot. So I love that.And I don't think you'll be able to
loop it around your back and thenjust lean lean back and do some other
things. You're gonna have to stayin your hands with it that. Yeah,
So it's gonna be cool, reallycool. And then they opened up
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they opened one more section in thearena, so the floor is gonna be
even bigger. That's awesome. Yeah, and it's gonna be filled out too.
Every every year it's been Yeah,it's just sold out last year,
we'll sell out this year. It'sit's gonna be crazy. And the expo
is gonna be pretty neat seeing theway they're gonna set it up there to
do in the South Hall now too, so it's going two halls, not
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just the one. That's awesome.Yeah. That's good though, because it's
a lot a lot of vendors andopportunities and you know, people to get
in there and really see all thisstuff. Yeah yeah, yeah, anybody
that's listening, I highly recommend togo. It's uhh yeah, I've got
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it. This will be my thirdtime, and it's just from the fan
experience. I tell my family,like, this is the one to go
to. And it's a little bitit's a little harder to get to because
it's an hour north of the airport, but in my opinion, it's more
than worth it. Oh it's it'sone of the best experiences you'll ever do.
And then just the speakers that arecome and talk and the lectures that
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will go on, and just someof the other stuff that's going on.
It's it's gonna be pretty exciting.I'm fired up for it. I can't
I can't wait. So, buthow else is your training going. It's
going well. My biceps are finallystarting to heal a little bit, so
you know, I don't know whatmy camera is doing, but you know,
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we're really really excited to get youknow, the squad event in,
really excited to throw the keg,excited to continue. I've been training.
I've been training axle for really sincelast October, so the axle is prying,
ready to go. Finally get gettingback on the log. Dead less
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improving still yeah, and it's justyou know, we're gonna start incorporating some
more of the specific events. Uhhere in a little bit, we're kind
of building the foundation, but we'llstart getting a finger back in, start
getting the power shares back in.And I mean yeah, I mean,
is there's so many things to train. It's just it's you can't really cover
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everything every week. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's eight events, but
I mean the way I count itis right, it's like eleven different disciplines
of train which is yes, yeah, trying to manage body fatigue and manage
it all. Right, when canI push this week or do I just
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need to work on technique this week? Because if you try to push everything
hard for twelve weeks or have yourlong training cycle, is you'll break before
you even get there. Yeah,that's something a lot of guys don't understand.
You don't have in training. Youdon't have to do the events with
the actual contest way. You justget close and practice of technique and you
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don't even know you gonna be ableto lift the things. So just you
just suck it up and go getit done. So the guy that comes
in the healthiest usually does the best, to be quite honest with you,
yep. So that's a good wayto think about it. That's the hope.
Yeah, so it's it's what elsedo you think? What else are
you looking forward to this year?How was Worlds? By the way,
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the world for me was it wasa good experience. I was a little
disappointed in my performance really on oneevent. I so on the on the
sandbag, and I don't know ifI showed this on TV. I made
it. I had injured my otherbicep in training leading up to it,
not significant, nothing surgical, butenough to where I had to make some
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modifications. Like on the deadlift letter, I planned to pull the first couple
of bars mixed script and I hada bell on that which probably ended up
helping me out take more time soI could get the last bar. So
that was a huge win because thatwas about that's off the floor. That
last bar was about forty pounds lessthan I've ever pulled off the floor,
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So hopefully we'll pull a lot morenow without I set up. So we
were happy with the deadlift. AViking press was great. I was so
I made a conscious decision in thesandbag when my biceps started not to feel
great too. Just it's like I'mgonna be fighting from one point here I
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wanted to stay healthy for the nextevents, and we had a really really
tight group. I mean between Rag, bish Aymar and myself it was like
like four I think maybe like threepoint spread going into like the last two
events. Wow. And I wasI was really confident that I would win
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the Viking Press. I was confidentmistakenly about the car yoke. Where Nick,
We've talked about this. I Istruggled again with the car yoke,
and I can't you know, I'mlooking at some things, but you know
I can. I'm very confident intraining. I'm don it with or yoga
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turning chains on there. I triedto create some instability, but for whatever
reason, I had to simulate thecar properly. And I finished that.
I finished it in a really badtime. That was the only thing.
I was really disappointed by the stones. I did have an a tacky issue,
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but I was kind of I panickedwith my taxi because I was worried
about my bicep. So I kindof like I would call it probably fifty
fifty bicep issue for the strength.The strength this wasn't there to bail me
out at the bad tacky and sowhat was I used a lot. I
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used way too much and it wasway too high, and I I started,
you know, set, I startedwearing stone sleeves solely just for the
sweat. Tried to keep the sweatoff the tacky and we I was in
the third group, and I underunderestimated the amount of time in between.
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So I definitely should have waited longerto put on my back as well.
Mm hm. That was actually myfirst besides like regional comps, that was
my first time doing stones outside.Oh no, okay, in training,
I've done it outside, but weall know it's very different in the competition
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for the whole entire time to cookall day in the sun. Yeah,
that's differ yep O s g shawuh the Arno lamb all indoors. So
not like I even said it,I'm like, well, that was my
first time on the real stage twinstones outside and so learned some lessons there.
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So now with that, what weage, I have to put the
tack down later, and I haveto. I see a lot of guys
will leave the TACKI out in thein the in the sun, so they
kind of see how it's reacting tothe weather. I did not do that.
And I had a like I've alwayshad issues sometimes getting out of the
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jar, so I use a heatgun. So what I was using a
League standard because it wasn't it wasn'tmelting until we got out there. Should
it? Should I use the hotgrade? Yeah? Yeah, Yeah,
that's the thing about doing stones herein Vegas. It's so freaking hot.
Even when they are in the garage, the stones are still over one hundred
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degrees. It'll be one hundred liketoday, It'll be one hundred and one
hundred and five out right now.Yeah, so inside the garage it'll be
one hundred and five. So that'syeah. You get used to going okay,
nope, I need to put thistime and need to put that on.
So okay, So did you gowith like five or six different grades
or did you just go with likea couple. I went with uh three
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grades, the hot, the standard, and the training for the the usually
throw in the back of my handout but yeah, I just I told
I met the whole thing up.There's there's no no doubt about that.
Yeah. So like we're where SpiderTack has like two grades, Cerberus has
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four or I think even five now, and so you get one of each
of those grades and then get awhole bunch of get all the different weather
ones for the elite, and thenyou take so up. Like in a
context like that, I'll end upbringing probably eight different types of tacking with
me. Do you do you leavethem out in the weather to see how
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it reacts or do you keep themcovered? Well, the stuff that you
bring for the heat isn't even reallygonna it's it's you're gonna have to heat
it up just to get it looseenough to put it on, got it.
Yeah, So you put it outin the sun, just try to
loosen it up. And if itbecomes like puddly in the sun, it's
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not strong enough. Yeah. Thestuff that's like almost hard in the sun,
that's what you're looking to use goinginto something was super hot like that.
Yeah, and human and then likeput spray tack on your arms and
then put on your your sleeves orput a little bit of tacking on your
arms, then put your sleeves on, and then put attack on the sleeves
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and your sleeves won't move when you'redoing Yeah, yeah, I did.
I usually did the alcohol wipes andthe spray tag and then tape them up
like the sleeves weren't moving. Itwas just good, just melting off.
And I may have had attacking onto get forty five minutes before. Oh
yeah, I am almost You're almostbetter off at that point, just wiping
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it off and starting over. Yeah, that's uh, definitely what I'll see
I'll do the next time. II I really underestimated the amount of time
in between each group. All right, it's yeah. And then I always
remember on that if you gotta dothe songs and you're not ready, they
wait for you. Yeah. Yeah, so play with the time a little
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bit, but don't don't necessarily,you know, just be like, okay,
well is it time to go?Yep, all right, well I've
been starting to get ready. I'malmost ready. I'll be there in two
seconds. And then you just finishup your process. I mean you've been
waiting around for them all day,right, yeah, so well we'll just
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it well. And and I'm alsonot wondering if it was a blessing in
the sky to keep my bicep on, so yeah, you know that's why.
Yeah, maybe maybe it was fora reason, Oh yeah, for
sure, But that's why I'm likeI'm just mad about the car. Like
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there was no injury holding me back. I just just didn't get the job
done. Again, how often squads? Squads? Not often? Oh okay,
well add those in once every twoweeks, okay, no, and
get heavy with them. Get getget up into the mid fives, low
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sixes for singles and doubles. Getheavy with that. You you walk out
of the road with a six hundredpounds zer squad, You're not. You're
not gonna care if the cord ofroads that moves or anything anymore. Yeah,
you just it just won't matter.Your core is gonna be so stable,
it's it's not gonna move. It'sreally not. You're just gonna breathe
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as regular and it's gonna it's gonnamove smooth. Interesting, it'll help a
lot, Okay, Yeah, yeah, I check that out a lot.
Well, So I'm hoping, hopingnext time it's just a regular. But
when it comes up again, yeah, I know, we got the cars
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in December. Yeah, so I'mlooking forward to that. I'm gonna be
watching the tape, I can tellyou that. Yeah, I'm I'm definitely
gonna try to go faster than wentlast time. Yeah, oh you flew
last time I was there, Iremember seeing that. Yeah, so I'm
gonna gonna try to be seven pointsix two seconds. Oh man, that's
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freaking flying, Nick, That's gonnabe awesome. That's gonna be awesome to
see. Where's those team this year? Wisconsin? Oh, Medicine, Wisconsin.
I kind of want to go.Yeah you should, Yeah, come
out. I'm actually going up touh Color, Wisconsin in a couple of
weeks for a wedding. I loveit up there. I love Wisconsin.
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Yeah, yeah, you have tofly back a bunch of spoted cow Yes.
Yes, that's awesome. And thenI got a lot of family up
there too, so it should beit should be cool. It's awesome.
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I'm looking forward to it. Now. It's just get ready for the deadly
Ladder and all the other stuff that'sgonna happen. M h, it's fun.
Oh yeah, can't wait to watch. Yeah. My issue is gonna
be getting down to the bar quickly. My hips aren't as friendly as a
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also good down to the I figuredout the way to pull myself in,
so now I just got to keeppracticing that suld be able to get it
pretty quick by then, So I'mlooking forward to it. Yeah, where
are the other events? Well,those are the two that I know of,
Okay, fair enough. I figuredthere's gonna be a stone. There'll
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be stones. There's always stones,so that'll be That'll be fine. There's
gonna be some type of carrying dragonMedley because he always has one. He
went and told everybody we're gonna havethe car walks. So there's probably not
going to be a farmer's or aframe, but I'll still train it anyway,
because, yeah, the foot movementon the farmers is the same as
it is on the yoke, sothat's easy. Yeah, So how close
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are your feet when you pick youryolk? By the way I go around
on my hips the same way Iwalk work, It's been fine for me
for other yolks, okay, allright, because I put mine actually inside
of my shoulder shoulder with so myfeet are probably only nine the tendances apart.
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When I pick a yoke, they'repretty close to go about hip wi
right, Yeah, maybe just alittle bit about it, but maybe just
a little more. Now that wayyou take the first step and there's no
rock side to side at all.Yeah, it's just the motion goes forward.
Yeah, I got Well, I'mhoping when it comes out on TV,
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I can see my feet to doublecheck that. But I double checked
my feet because I thought that wasthe problem the first time was that I
went to wide, So like Ichecked my feet like six times getting into
that car. It may have beeneither taking me. But that's done now.
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Yeah, it's cool. Yeah,it's cool. Yeah, it's it's
gonna be. It's gonna be funto see where you go with this because
you're being methodical, you're learning aboutthe injuries, you're learning how to rehab
the injuries and train around the injurytoo. That's gonna be. That's gonna
be a big part of it becausethe more things you go to and the
more these you do, all ofa sudden you're doing five, six,
seven of them in the year andyou get beat pretty bad. Yeah.
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So it's learning that moderation point asyou're going and waiting to push and way
to back off and Okay, wellI got invited to this, I'm gonna
go do it, do the bestI can, but I'm gonna save myself
on these things so that I'm readyready for what you're actually what your goal
is you know, so, sowhat else is going on? Not a
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whole lot, that's it's just uh, it's just work and training. It's
well, how's the balance between astrength, strength and conditioning coach and and
you know, getting your training inat the same time. Well, for
me, I kind of know myyearly schedule at this point, so I
just kind of I kind of rollwith it. I'm not gonna well,
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I say it's easy. I thinkevery year, every year, I feel
like it gets harder. I'm gettinga little more tired, going to bed
a little earlier, not wanting todo anything on my rest days. Yeah.
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By the way, yes, soI've been told, but yeah,
I mean it's it's to me,it's just management making sure I can handle
everything. And then I I thinkthis year, the second half of this
year, I got to do abetter job of looking at the whole picture,
Like I if I have a reallyhard work day, like physically I
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need to be or travel wise,I need to be more careful in training
following those days. Yeah, becauseI've I had to do a lot of
traveling in the spring, and athing that had something to do with my
biceps injuries. M h. Therewas a there was a span where I
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was on the road. I thinkabout six weekends in a row. Yeah,
not far, but it's still timein the car and uh, you
know cars as roomy as you likethem to be, as big as you
are. No, no, so, but you know I love it.
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I want to change it. Notgoing to change it. I just gotta
have to keep down and nutrition alittle bit better, maybe so after after
Worlds it's really the big thing isso I would work and go in and
have been trained pretty quickly, soI'd be on my feet moving kind of
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like a we have many workout almostfor three to two to three hours,
and then I would go right intoworking out. With the way my schedule
is now I can and I hadto start doing this, like I will
go force myself to sit and eatand hydrate and let that that just before
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I train to get to get reallya second meal in, whereas before I
was trying to operate off of one, and so I could get done and
get on. Yeah, and thenthat wasn't at the end of the sessions,
I had start dying out. Yeahyeah, yeah, that's someone to
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do is be done and yeah,you don't have you don't have the feel
of the energy you need to finish, so that that's very good decision.
Yep. So starting to do thatand just being more adaptable trying not to
panic too much. Is like Igot to call an audible on a on
a left, the heavy thing,and I'm like, it's not there here
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today, I'm going to have toadjust it. Yeah, yeah, don't
get that. It's like, okay, your program for this, did you
feel off? Don't worry about gettingthe number. You're strong as a bull
anyway. One one, one variationisn't going to cost you your whole training
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cycle. So just get some trainingin so that you get something done and
then shut it down and go hitit back again hard next week. It's
how you stay in one piece thatthat makes the difference. With the biceps
being sore and injured, how longis it taking you to recover from that?
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They like I have I laid offstones for a while. I've actually
been able to clean axles, likewith the underhand side to faster than I
could do stones. It's weird asthat sounds, but for probably about four
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weeks we did nothing. But likeanytime I would do stones and programming,
we just do a tremendous amount ofbus of rehab and trying to make a
specific too strong man where like youknow, a lot of like traditional bicep
rehabs done and like you know,full contraction or like isometrics at like a
true ninety degree angle, but I'mtrying to get into that, like the
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deeper isometric where I even did somelike BFR training with a large met ball
to kind of simulate a stone andjust get in the angles that I'm in
more and more of that like onehundred and twenty five degree angle rather than
the ninety degree angle. This iskind of the prescribed or rehab no normal.
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Yeah, especially as we've kind ofgot out of it, I've worked
on probably more upper body mobility thanI ever have, really trying to get
my pack to kind of let go, trying to get my forms mobile again.
One that really helped with the axletoo, cleaning wise, and yeah,
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trying to do all that without losingan impressing power. That's yeah,
that's awesome. Yeah, not smartsmart thinking. So you know, I
don't know my stones will be whereI want them to be in August,
but you know, we'll we'll haveto make a smart decision, and I
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know we'll we won't zero, that'sfor damn sure. But if I gotta,
if I gotta eat some points there, I'm okay with that. We
got some better events coming. Sohow deep under the stones are you going?
Now that you say again, howdeep under the stones do you get?
When you have the bie officies?What do you mean deep? So
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you know how you reach underneath andalmost at the bottom of the platform to
scoop underneath it? Are you?Are you going super deep like that?
Or are you now coming just partof the stone? I am trying to
straight arm in as much as possible, keep it straight and like and telling.
Let let the back and the glutesdo the work as long as the
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tack you hold. Okay, soyou know how you can reach down?
Yeah, between your legs and thestone, and then your knees are on
the outside of your elbows. Yep, you ever pushed your knees into your
elbows as you're looking the stone atthe floor. It sounds like you're a
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good idea. I have a thoughtit on that it squeezes your hands and
elbows into the stones, so youcan keep them straight yet keep extra pressure
on him as you're lifting it offthe floor. I know guys. I
know guys have some bit side problems. Never even goes whose back won't go
down undneath the stone anymore and hiships won't let him drop that low anymore.
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So I grab the stones pretty likealmost squeezeish, like a hay squeeze.
Yeah, you know, that's that'show I pick up the stones,
and I go just probably two orthree inches past the apex of the roundness
of the stone. I don't getunderneath them that deep. I just make
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sure I have the right tacky,because if you have the right tacky,
let's do that. And then I'llalways tacky the last two or three stones
before I go with the fresh tackingthat I have on then retacking my hands
so by the time I get tohim, I don't have to retack it.
I won't play around with that.Yeah, you just see the light
bulb going off above you. Yeah, you put you put it in the
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two spots where your hands are gonnago, and then you grab it and
you roll it about halfway forwards andtack it again with your hands, touch
it again with your hands, andget tacked on it, because that's where
your hands are going to be whenthe stones lapped and you go and you
go to pull it up. Interesting, Okay, yeah, I've had like
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for me, it's all getting intothe lap, no bysee pain or even
like stress at the load. Forme, it's a it's all in the
just getting into the lap, right, So I just want to make the
whole thing as easy as possible.Yeah, that's it. Yeah, when
when you're smaller and you find otherways of moving things that are super heavy
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and use your body to to tohelp you do to help you get it
off the ground, to use themechanics of it. Hell yeah, so
those things will help a lot.And they may be texting you some videos.
Okay, absolutely, Yeah, that'sthat's the stuff I like to do.
Yeah. I like to get withthe higher competitors and just go hey,
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have you done this? Have youdone that? Have you done that?
And just point out little things yea. And that's why I experience everybody
that's it. I don't know howmany times we've been on this podcast and
all of a sudden you can seethe whites of people's eyes and that little
light bulb go off, and it'slike, why didn't I think of that,
and I was like, you justdon't have the experience yet, and
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that's why you're on the show.Oh man, that's awesome. Yeah.
So I helped some of those thingshelp. And you know, I because
I did that a the Arnold andthe stone was five thirty five and I
was able to lap that thing.I almost got it over. I lapped
it like four times. I justthis was the last time they had the
(35:57):
stone in the Arnold and uh,I nearly had it over the bar and
then I dropped and ended up doingthe four sixty five four times. But
it's with with my biceps. Lateron, I can't I couldn't dead my
arms. So I was able todo it with a good taxi, you
know, and just pull it andsqueeze it like that. Yeah, that's
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how I was able to move him. Yeah, very much noted, And
I haven't told anybody that, sonow everybody knows. Are sure we want
to air this episode? We didmake it later if you'd like, because
you still gotta go do it.You still gotta figure it out and play
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with it and stuff like that.So it's still challenging it all on its
own. But I I you gotamazing potential. I just can't wait.
It's just so much fun to watchyou do what you do. It really
is. I appreciate it. It'sAh, that's been an awesome experience,
Sketty, I keep pushing forward exactly. Hell yeah, absolutely, Yeah,
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there's a lot of good guys comingin. Yeah, people come in,
they come in fast and hard.But it's the ones that stay, yeah,
you know, it's the ones thatare there year in and year out
that the opportunity will come to.I mean, you can get there,
you can do things that will getyou there fast, but can you stay
(37:25):
there and then as you're staying thereyou learn things and then you just keep
improving. Yeah, you know,and that's the biggest probably the biggest thing,
because guys have come in kill itfor two or three years, then
they just break. Trick is notto break yep. So but anyway,
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well, I can't thank you enoughfor your time. But oh no,
it's been awesome. I'll always beable to go on this show anything,
just so I can learn the phonecall away, don't you just pick up
the phone and ask me something?What do you think of this? As
I No, man, it's alwaysan honor talking to you. Guys,
(38:07):
and you know this is there's stillvery surreal for me and kind of being
part of this. And like Isaid, I'm just gonna keep pushing,
keep keep hanging in there and hopefullybreak podium here soon. It's not.
Yeah, And the thing is,you're big, you're strong, all that
(38:30):
stuff. Put weight on that youneed. Do not put on weight that
you don't need. If it's notgoing to help you, don't do it.
Don't put it on. You know, it's only put on weight you
need to help mm hm. Soif it's gonna slow you down or limit
your mobility on something in the inthe end, it's not really useful.
(38:55):
You want useful weight on. Well, Nick and Tom. You know Nick
is saying and we always like touse it at the meat of every episode.
You know what I'm saying, it'sinspiring and let it. It's words
that define Nick because you know what, that's exactly how he trained. Well,
Hey, guys, go follow Tom, go following him. He's absolutely
(39:19):
amazing. If you don't go followhim, you know, I don't know
what to tell you. The guy'samazing, he's smart. He's also a
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Man every show, Tom's Evans,Hey, guys, great and Strongest.
Oh yeah, is there anything I'veyou have to do? It? Giants
Live. That would be the onlybranch of the tree I've not covered at
(01:46):
this time. Well, reach out, what are you guys? Waiting on.
Well, you know, we're hopingfor some things in the works.
There's been some conversations and I'm hopefulsomething will get you know, worked out
here soon. But we'll see,you know, we'll see. Well,
the one in the Vegas is deadlifting. If if I if I had to
(02:09):
pick, I think i'd rather lefta long but that's just me. Yeah,
but remember the dead Lift Park.There's only one event, and you're
still going to place higher than youthink at it because they take all the
guys from the Deadlift World Championships outof the mix. Yeah, because there's
only a certain amount that are doingthat, so it's it's actually not as
(02:31):
bad as you think. Well,I get the then the Vegas, so
that would also be Yeah, comeout and have some fun. Oh absolutely,
And they're shooting here at the range. Oh yeah, that'd be awesome.
That's why you see me in thecar because I'm actually working at the
range. Right. I had tocome out and take my links to do
(02:53):
this. Well, I appreciate youget you guys doing it early for me
starting to get the bad Easter time. So you excited about the saw extremely
excited? Yeah, Yeah, likelast year was very much like, you
(03:13):
know, you hear about it,You're like, it's this heavy, it's
this many events, and then youget into it and then it's like,
Okay, it is heavier. Itis even more taxing than I thought it
would be. So I'm excited tobe, you know, a second time
around, have a better idea whatwas coming, you know, And I
(03:34):
like the competitions. With more events, I think for me, you know,
I can finish it hopefully like topfive and every event, or at
least in the top half, andend up somewhere good and placing. So
I feel pretty confident about that.Weaknesses are getting better and strings are getting
better as well. You'll probably likea lot too, right, Yeah.
(04:02):
Yeah, I'm really excited for thesquad two overhead events with three disciplines.
That's that's exciting for me. It'llactually only be my second time doing circus
dumb bell, but the training ina lot, I'm really excited to get
to do that one on the preststage. Yeah, it's it's gonna be
pretty cool. Yeah, it's gonnabe fun to watch. Yeah, we
(04:24):
just went and tested the the bailcarry m hmm. Yeah, that looks
uh, that looks insane. It'sgonna be pretty cool. It's if you
got a good grip, then it'sjust gonna be getting the thing moving.
Yep. Yeah, because I imagineit can feel more like a carry and
(04:46):
push than just a carry. Correct. Yeah, because those tires are huge
and they're soft, so they're they'repretty rubbery. You're gonna have to push
on it, and it's gonna beon a rubber floor, so you're gonna
have to lean into the thing whenyou're going. Interesting, it's not gonna
be what people think it's gonna be. And then you get to run back
(05:11):
fifty feet and sit down and dothe arm over arm with that tractor,
and the tractor the way the tiresare in that tractor, the first pole
in the last party are gonna bethe same. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
that's why we were kind of gettingat Yeah. I'm assuming it'll it'll
feel kind of like the safe right, no momentum, maybe a little heavier.
(05:36):
Yeah, Yeah, it's gonna benot a lot of moments. You'll
get a little bit of momentum outof it, a little bit, but
not a lot. So, Imean, Brian has one technique. I
had another technique. Brian pulled itmuch harder because the actually it's gonna be
neat though, they're gonna be ableto measure the pressure on the things that
(05:56):
you're putting on them. Yep.So that that's gonna look really cool for
the screen because Brian was pulling likefive hundred and forty pounds of pressure on
the rope. Yeah, and ittakes like two hundred and fifty to move
it, which I know he's toldeverybody I wouldn't be talking about this.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it'son the YouTube. We're good. Yeah
cool. So yeah, it's it'sgonna be pretty serious. Yeah. And
(06:21):
the consistent, the consistency, theconsistent pull because if drops below two fifty,
it doesn't move, it stops.Yeah, it will stop. So
and it it Brian. It tookBrian a minute, So it's he's one
of the best ever seen. SoI'm threaking there'll be two to three guys
(06:44):
that might get through the whole thingin the ninety seconds. But it's yeah,
I for some reason I thought itwas gonna be a two minute mark,
but that that's still if Brian tooka mane on it, that's uh,
yeah, there'll be a lot ofthis it's being measured most likely correct.
Yeah, So it's gonna be good, and it's gonna get guys pulling
(07:08):
to that last second because every inchis gonna count YEP. Absolutely, Yeah,
I'm I'm I'm excited. It's gonnabe funny, and I'm gonna get
in there and talk while you guysare going. So it's gonna be a
blast. Oh that's that's gonna be. That's gonna be a long minute and
a half. But talk about goingdown time excited for the opportunity. Yeah,
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and it's gonna it's gonna look incredible. I mean like having four giant
pieces of form equipment just moving onone go. It's yeah, yeah,
the bail to or the bailer willclear out and then when you pull the
chactors back, the only thing comingback out you're gonna be the chapters.
(07:55):
So it's gonna be it's gonna bepretty neat to watch, awesome. It's
gonna be visually really cool. Ilike the device you came up with to
do the arm over arm with too. Yeah, because that seat that's gonna
move and stuff is if the guysare smart, which I wasn't as smart
as I should have been I shouldhave been using my legs. But if
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the guys are smart and they usetheir legs, it's gonna help help a
lot. So I love that.And I don't think you'll be able to
loop it around your back and thenjust lean lean back and do some other
things. You're gonna have to stayin your hands with it that. Yeah,
So it's gonna be cool, reallycool. And then they opened up
(08:41):
they opened one more section in thearena, so the floor is gonna be
even bigger. That's awesome. Yeah, and it's gonna be filled out too.
Every every year it's been Yeah,it's just sold out last year,
we'll sell out this year. It'sit's gonna be crazy. And the expo
is gonna be pretty neat seeing theway they're gonna set it up there to
do in the South Hall now too, so it's going two halls, not
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just the one. That's awesome.Yeah. That's good though, because it's
a lot a lot of vendors andopportunities and you know, people to get
in there and really see all thisstuff. Yeah yeah, yeah, anybody
that's listening, I highly recommend togo. It's uhh yeah, I've got
(09:24):
it. This will be my thirdtime, and it's just from the fan
experience. I tell my family,like, this is the one to go
to. And it's a little bitit's a little harder to get to because
it's an hour north of the airport, but in my opinion, it's more
than worth it. Oh it's it'sone of the best experiences you'll ever do.
And then just the speakers that arecome and talk and the lectures that
(09:46):
will go on, and just someof the other stuff that's going on.
It's it's gonna be pretty exciting.I'm fired up for it. I can't
I can't wait. So, buthow else is your training going. It's
going well. My biceps are finallystarting to heal a little bit, so
you know, I don't know whatmy camera is doing, but you know,
(10:13):
we're really really excited to get youknow, the squad event in,
really excited to throw the keg,excited to continue. I've been training.
I've been training axle for really sincelast October, so the axle is prying,
ready to go. Finally get gettingback on the log. Dead less
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improving still yeah, and it's justyou know, we're gonna start incorporating some
more of the specific events. Uhhere in a little bit, we're kind
of building the foundation, but we'llstart getting a finger back in, start
getting the power shares back in.And I mean yeah, I mean,
is there's so many things to train. It's just it's you can't really cover
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everything every week. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's eight events, but
I mean the way I count itis right, it's like eleven different disciplines
of train which is yes, yeah, trying to manage body fatigue and manage
it all. Right, when canI push this week or do I just
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need to work on technique this week? Because if you try to push everything
hard for twelve weeks or have yourlong training cycle, is you'll break before
you even get there. Yeah,that's something a lot of guys don't understand.
You don't have in training. Youdon't have to do the events with
the actual contest way. You justget close and practice of technique and you
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don't even know you gonna be ableto lift the things. So just you
just suck it up and go getit done. So the guy that comes
in the healthiest usually does the best, to be quite honest with you,
yep. So that's a good wayto think about it. That's the hope.
Yeah, so it's it's what elsedo you think? What else are
you looking forward to this year?How was Worlds? By the way,
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the world for me was it wasa good experience. I was a little
disappointed in my performance really on oneevent. I so on the on the
sandbag, and I don't know ifI showed this on TV. I made
it. I had injured my otherbicep in training leading up to it,
not significant, nothing surgical, butenough to where I had to make some
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modifications. Like on the deadlift letter, I planned to pull the first couple
of bars mixed script and I hada bell on that which probably ended up
helping me out take more time soI could get the last bar. So
that was a huge win because thatwas about that's off the floor. That
last bar was about forty pounds lessthan I've ever pulled off the floor,
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So hopefully we'll pull a lot morenow without I set up. So we
were happy with the deadlift. AViking press was great. I was so
I made a conscious decision in thesandbag when my biceps started not to feel
great too. Just it's like I'mgonna be fighting from one point here I
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wanted to stay healthy for the nextevents, and we had a really really
tight group. I mean between Rag, bish Aymar and myself it was like
like four I think maybe like threepoint spread going into like the last two
events. Wow. And I wasI was really confident that I would win
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the Viking Press. I was confidentmistakenly about the car yoke. Where Nick,
We've talked about this. I Istruggled again with the car yoke,
and I can't you know, I'mlooking at some things, but you know
I can. I'm very confident intraining. I'm don it with or yoga
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turning chains on there. I triedto create some instability, but for whatever
reason, I had to simulate thecar properly. And I finished that.
I finished it in a really badtime. That was the only thing.
I was really disappointed by the stones. I did have an a tacky issue,
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but I was kind of I panickedwith my taxi because I was worried
about my bicep. So I kindof like I would call it probably fifty
fifty bicep issue for the strength.The strength this wasn't there to bail me
out at the bad tacky and sowhat was I used a lot. I
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used way too much and it wasway too high, and I I started,
you know, set, I startedwearing stone sleeves solely just for the
sweat. Tried to keep the sweatoff the tacky and we I was in
the third group, and I underunderestimated the amount of time in between.
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So I definitely should have waited longerto put on my back as well.
Mm hm. That was actually myfirst besides like regional comps, that was
my first time doing stones outside.Oh no, okay, in training,
I've done it outside, but weall know it's very different in the competition
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for the whole entire time to cookall day in the sun. Yeah,
that's differ yep O s g shawuh the Arno lamb all indoors. So
not like I even said it,I'm like, well, that was my
first time on the real stage twinstones outside and so learned some lessons there.
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So now with that, what weage, I have to put the
tack down later, and I haveto. I see a lot of guys
will leave the TACKI out in thein the in the sun, so they
kind of see how it's reacting tothe weather. I did not do that.
And I had a like I've alwayshad issues sometimes getting out of the
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jar, so I use a heatgun. So what I was using a
League standard because it wasn't it wasn'tmelting until we got out there. Should
it? Should I use the hotgrade? Yeah? Yeah, Yeah,
that's the thing about doing stones herein Vegas. It's so freaking hot.
Even when they are in the garage, the stones are still over one hundred
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degrees. It'll be one hundred liketoday, It'll be one hundred and one
hundred and five out right now.Yeah, so inside the garage it'll be
one hundred and five. So that'syeah. You get used to going okay,
nope, I need to put thistime and need to put that on.
So okay, So did you gowith like five or six different grades
or did you just go with likea couple. I went with uh three
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grades, the hot, the standard, and the training for the the usually
throw in the back of my handout but yeah, I just I told
I met the whole thing up.There's there's no no doubt about that.
Yeah. So like we're where SpiderTack has like two grades, Cerberus has
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four or I think even five now, and so you get one of each
of those grades and then get awhole bunch of get all the different weather
ones for the elite, and thenyou take so up. Like in a
context like that, I'll end upbringing probably eight different types of tacking with
me. Do you do you leavethem out in the weather to see how
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it reacts or do you keep themcovered? Well, the stuff that you
bring for the heat isn't even reallygonna it's it's you're gonna have to heat
it up just to get it looseenough to put it on, got it.
Yeah, So you put it outin the sun, just try to
loosen it up. And if itbecomes like puddly in the sun, it's
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not strong enough. Yeah. Thestuff that's like almost hard in the sun,
that's what you're looking to use goinginto something was super hot like that.
Yeah, and human and then likeput spray tack on your arms and
then put on your your sleeves orput a little bit of tacking on your
arms, then put your sleeves on, and then put attack on the sleeves
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and your sleeves won't move when you'redoing Yeah, yeah, I did.
I usually did the alcohol wipes andthe spray tag and then tape them up
like the sleeves weren't moving. Itwas just good, just melting off.
And I may have had attacking onto get forty five minutes before. Oh
yeah, I am almost You're almostbetter off at that point, just wiping
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it off and starting over. Yeah, that's uh, definitely what I'll see
I'll do the next time. II I really underestimated the amount of time
in between each group. All right, it's yeah. And then I always
remember on that if you gotta dothe songs and you're not ready, they
wait for you. Yeah. Yeah, so play with the time a little
(19:30):
bit, but don't don't necessarily,you know, just be like, okay,
well is it time to go?Yep, all right, well I've
been starting to get ready. I'malmost ready. I'll be there in two
seconds. And then you just finishup your process. I mean you've been
waiting around for them all day,right, yeah, so well we'll just
(19:51):
it well. And and I'm alsonot wondering if it was a blessing in
the sky to keep my bicep on, so yeah, you know that's why.
Yeah, maybe maybe it was fora reason, Oh yeah, for
sure, But that's why I'm likeI'm just mad about the car. Like
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there was no injury holding me back. I just just didn't get the job
done. Again, how often squads? Squads? Not often? Oh okay,
well add those in once every twoweeks, okay, no, and
get heavy with them. Get getget up into the mid fives, low
(20:36):
sixes for singles and doubles. Getheavy with that. You you walk out
of the road with a six hundredpounds zer squad, You're not. You're
not gonna care if the cord ofroads that moves or anything anymore. Yeah,
you just it just won't matter.Your core is gonna be so stable,
it's it's not gonna move. It'sreally not. You're just gonna breathe
(20:57):
as regular and it's gonna it's gonnamove smooth. Interesting, it'll help a
lot, Okay, Yeah, yeah, I check that out a lot.
Well, So I'm hoping, hopingnext time it's just a regular. But
when it comes up again, yeah, I know, we got the cars
(21:19):
in December. Yeah, so I'mlooking forward to that. I'm gonna be
watching the tape, I can tellyou that. Yeah, I'm I'm definitely
gonna try to go faster than wentlast time. Yeah, oh you flew
last time I was there, Iremember seeing that. Yeah, so I'm
gonna gonna try to be seven pointsix two seconds. Oh man, that's
(21:45):
freaking flying, Nick, That's gonnabe awesome. That's gonna be awesome to
see. Where's those team this year? Wisconsin? Oh, Medicine, Wisconsin.
I kind of want to go.Yeah you should, Yeah, come
out. I'm actually going up touh Color, Wisconsin in a couple of
weeks for a wedding. I loveit up there. I love Wisconsin.
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Yeah, yeah, you have tofly back a bunch of spoted cow Yes.
Yes, that's awesome. And thenI got a lot of family up
there too, so it should beit should be cool. It's awesome.
(22:30):
I'm looking forward to it. Now. It's just get ready for the deadly
Ladder and all the other stuff that'sgonna happen. M h, it's fun.
Oh yeah, can't wait to watch. Yeah. My issue is gonna
be getting down to the bar quickly. My hips aren't as friendly as a
(22:52):
also good down to the I figuredout the way to pull myself in,
so now I just got to keeppracticing that suld be able to get it
pretty quick by then, So I'mlooking forward to it. Yeah, where
are the other events? Well,those are the two that I know of,
Okay, fair enough. I figuredthere's gonna be a stone. There'll
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be stones. There's always stones,so that'll be That'll be fine. There's
gonna be some type of carrying dragonMedley because he always has one. He
went and told everybody we're gonna havethe car walks. So there's probably not
going to be a farmer's or aframe, but I'll still train it anyway,
because, yeah, the foot movementon the farmers is the same as
it is on the yoke, sothat's easy. Yeah, So how close
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are your feet when you pick youryolk? By the way I go around
on my hips the same way Iwalk work, It's been fine for me
for other yolks, okay, allright, because I put mine actually inside
of my shoulder shoulder with so myfeet are probably only nine the tendances apart.
(24:02):
When I pick a yoke, they'repretty close to go about hip wi
right, Yeah, maybe just alittle bit about it, but maybe just
a little more. Now that wayyou take the first step and there's no
rock side to side at all.Yeah, it's just the motion goes forward.
Yeah, I got Well, I'mhoping when it comes out on TV,
(24:26):
I can see my feet to doublecheck that. But I double checked
my feet because I thought that wasthe problem the first time was that I
went to wide, So like Ichecked my feet like six times getting into
that car. It may have beeneither taking me. But that's done now.
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Yeah, it's cool. Yeah,it's cool. Yeah, it's it's
gonna be. It's gonna be funto see where you go with this because
you're being methodical, you're learning aboutthe injuries, you're learning how to rehab
the injuries and train around the injurytoo. That's gonna be. That's gonna
be a big part of it becausethe more things you go to and the
more these you do, all ofa sudden you're doing five, six,
seven of them in the year andyou get beat pretty bad. Yeah.
(25:11):
So it's learning that moderation point asyou're going and waiting to push and way
to back off and Okay, wellI got invited to this, I'm gonna
go do it, do the bestI can, but I'm gonna save myself
on these things so that I'm readyready for what you're actually what your goal
is you know, so, sowhat else is going on? Not a
(25:32):
whole lot, that's it's just uh, it's just work and training. It's
well, how's the balance between astrength, strength and conditioning coach and and
you know, getting your training inat the same time. Well, for
me, I kind of know myyearly schedule at this point, so I
just kind of I kind of rollwith it. I'm not gonna well,
(25:56):
I say it's easy. I thinkevery year, every year, I feel
like it gets harder. I'm gettinga little more tired, going to bed
a little earlier, not wanting todo anything on my rest days. Yeah.
(26:18):
By the way, yes, soI've been told, but yeah,
I mean it's it's to me,it's just management making sure I can handle
everything. And then I I thinkthis year, the second half of this
year, I got to do abetter job of looking at the whole picture,
Like I if I have a reallyhard work day, like physically I
(26:41):
need to be or travel wise,I need to be more careful in training
following those days. Yeah, becauseI've I had to do a lot of
traveling in the spring, and athing that had something to do with my
biceps injuries. M h. Therewas a there was a span where I
(27:02):
was on the road. I thinkabout six weekends in a row. Yeah,
not far, but it's still timein the car and uh, you
know cars as roomy as you likethem to be, as big as you
are. No, no, so, but you know I love it.
(27:26):
I want to change it. Notgoing to change it. I just gotta
have to keep down and nutrition alittle bit better, maybe so after after
Worlds it's really the big thing isso I would work and go in and
have been trained pretty quickly, soI'd be on my feet moving kind of
(27:52):
like a we have many workout almostfor three to two to three hours,
and then I would go right intoworking out. With the way my schedule
is now I can and I hadto start doing this, like I will
go force myself to sit and eatand hydrate and let that that just before
(28:15):
I train to get to get reallya second meal in, whereas before I
was trying to operate off of one, and so I could get done and
get on. Yeah, and thenthat wasn't at the end of the sessions,
I had start dying out. Yeahyeah, yeah, that's someone to
(28:41):
do is be done and yeah,you don't have you don't have the feel
of the energy you need to finish, so that that's very good decision.
Yep. So starting to do thatand just being more adaptable trying not to
panic too much. Is like Igot to call an audible on a on
a left, the heavy thing,and I'm like, it's not there here
(29:03):
today, I'm going to have toadjust it. Yeah, yeah, don't
get that. It's like, okay, your program for this, did you
feel off? Don't worry about gettingthe number. You're strong as a bull
anyway. One one, one variationisn't going to cost you your whole training
(29:26):
cycle. So just get some trainingin so that you get something done and
then shut it down and go hitit back again hard next week. It's
how you stay in one piece thatthat makes the difference. With the biceps
being sore and injured, how longis it taking you to recover from that?
(29:51):
They like I have I laid offstones for a while. I've actually
been able to clean axles, likewith the underhand side to faster than I
could do stones. It's weird asthat sounds, but for probably about four
(30:15):
weeks we did nothing. But likeanytime I would do stones and programming,
we just do a tremendous amount ofbus of rehab and trying to make a
specific too strong man where like youknow, a lot of like traditional bicep
rehabs done and like you know,full contraction or like isometrics at like a
true ninety degree angle, but I'mtrying to get into that, like the
(30:37):
deeper isometric where I even did somelike BFR training with a large met ball
to kind of simulate a stone andjust get in the angles that I'm in
more and more of that like onehundred and twenty five degree angle rather than
the ninety degree angle. This iskind of the prescribed or rehab no normal.
(30:59):
Yeah, especially as we've kind ofgot out of it, I've worked
on probably more upper body mobility thanI ever have, really trying to get
my pack to kind of let go, trying to get my forms mobile again.
One that really helped with the axletoo, cleaning wise, and yeah,
(31:23):
trying to do all that without losingan impressing power. That's yeah,
that's awesome. Yeah, not smartsmart thinking. So you know, I
don't know my stones will be whereI want them to be in August,
but you know, we'll we'll haveto make a smart decision, and I
(31:48):
know we'll we won't zero, that'sfor damn sure. But if I gotta,
if I gotta eat some points there, I'm okay with that. We
got some better events coming. Sohow deep under the stones are you going?
Now that you say again, howdeep under the stones do you get?
When you have the bie officies?What do you mean deep? So
(32:12):
you know how you reach underneath andalmost at the bottom of the platform to
scoop underneath it? Are you?Are you going super deep like that?
Or are you now coming just partof the stone? I am trying to
straight arm in as much as possible, keep it straight and like and telling.
Let let the back and the glutesdo the work as long as the
(32:35):
tack you hold. Okay, soyou know how you can reach down?
Yeah, between your legs and thestone, and then your knees are on
the outside of your elbows. Yep, you ever pushed your knees into your
elbows as you're looking the stone atthe floor. It sounds like you're a
(32:57):
good idea. I have a thoughtit on that it squeezes your hands and
elbows into the stones, so youcan keep them straight yet keep extra pressure
on him as you're lifting it offthe floor. I know guys. I
know guys have some bit side problems. Never even goes whose back won't go
down undneath the stone anymore and hiships won't let him drop that low anymore.
(33:22):
So I grab the stones pretty likealmost squeezeish, like a hay squeeze.
Yeah, you know, that's that'show I pick up the stones,
and I go just probably two orthree inches past the apex of the roundness
of the stone. I don't getunderneath them that deep. I just make
(33:43):
sure I have the right tacky,because if you have the right tacky,
let's do that. And then I'llalways tacky the last two or three stones
before I go with the fresh tackingthat I have on then retacking my hands
so by the time I get tohim, I don't have to retack it.
I won't play around with that.Yeah, you just see the light
bulb going off above you. Yeah, you put you put it in the
(34:07):
two spots where your hands are gonnago, and then you grab it and
you roll it about halfway forwards andtack it again with your hands, touch
it again with your hands, andget tacked on it, because that's where
your hands are going to be whenthe stones lapped and you go and you
go to pull it up. Interesting, Okay, yeah, I've had like
(34:27):
for me, it's all getting intothe lap, no bysee pain or even
like stress at the load. Forme, it's a it's all in the
just getting into the lap, right, So I just want to make the
whole thing as easy as possible.Yeah, that's it. Yeah, when
when you're smaller and you find otherways of moving things that are super heavy
(34:51):
and use your body to to tohelp you do to help you get it
off the ground, to use themechanics of it. Hell yeah, so
those things will help a lot.And they may be texting you some videos.
Okay, absolutely, Yeah, that'sthat's the stuff I like to do.
Yeah. I like to get withthe higher competitors and just go hey,
(35:15):
have you done this? Have youdone that? Have you done that?
And just point out little things yea. And that's why I experience everybody
that's it. I don't know howmany times we've been on this podcast and
all of a sudden you can seethe whites of people's eyes and that little
light bulb go off, and it'slike, why didn't I think of that,
and I was like, you justdon't have the experience yet, and
(35:36):
that's why you're on the show.Oh man, that's awesome. Yeah.
So I helped some of those thingshelp. And you know, I because
I did that a the Arnold andthe stone was five thirty five and I
was able to lap that thing.I almost got it over. I lapped
it like four times. I justthis was the last time they had the
(35:57):
stone in the Arnold and uh,I nearly had it over the bar and
then I dropped and ended up doingthe four sixty five four times. But
it's with with my biceps. Lateron, I can't I couldn't dead my
arms. So I was able todo it with a good taxi, you
know, and just pull it andsqueeze it like that. Yeah, that's
(36:20):
how I was able to move him. Yeah, very much noted, And
I haven't told anybody that, sonow everybody knows. Are sure we want
to air this episode? We didmake it later if you'd like, because
you still gotta go do it.You still gotta figure it out and play
(36:43):
with it and stuff like that.So it's still challenging it all on its
own. But I I you gotamazing potential. I just can't wait.
It's just so much fun to watchyou do what you do. It really
is. I appreciate it. It'sAh, that's been an awesome experience,
Sketty, I keep pushing forward exactly. Hell yeah, absolutely, Yeah,
(37:05):
there's a lot of good guys comingin. Yeah, people come in,
they come in fast and hard.But it's the ones that stay, yeah,
you know, it's the ones thatare there year in and year out
that the opportunity will come to.I mean, you can get there,
you can do things that will getyou there fast, but can you stay
(37:25):
there and then as you're staying thereyou learn things and then you just keep
improving. Yeah, you know,and that's the biggest probably the biggest thing,
because guys have come in kill itfor two or three years, then
they just break. Trick is notto break yep. So but anyway,
(37:45):
well, I can't thank you enoughfor your time. But oh no,
it's been awesome. I'll always beable to go on this show anything,
just so I can learn the phonecall away, don't you just pick up
the phone and ask me something?What do you think of this? As
I No, man, it's alwaysan honor talking to you. Guys,
(38:07):
and you know this is there's stillvery surreal for me and kind of being
part of this. And like Isaid, I'm just gonna keep pushing,
keep keep hanging in there and hopefullybreak podium here soon. It's not.
Yeah, And the thing is,you're big, you're strong, all that
(38:30):
stuff. Put weight on that youneed. Do not put on weight that
you don't need. If it's notgoing to help you, don't do it.
Don't put it on. You know, it's only put on weight you
need to help mm hm. Soif it's gonna slow you down or limit
your mobility on something in the inthe end, it's not really useful.
(38:55):
You want useful weight on. Well, Nick and Tom. You know Nick
is saying and we always like touse it at the meat of every episode.
You know what I'm saying, it'sinspiring and let it. It's words
that define Nick because you know what, that's exactly how he trained. Well,
Hey, guys, go follow Tom, go following him. He's absolutely
(39:19):
amazing. If you don't go followhim, you know, I don't know
what to tell you. The guy'samazing, he's smart. He's also a
really good strain coach. So hithim up. On that as well,
and UH as always if you likesharing, If you like this, please
like sharing, subscribe and share theheck out of it. And it's always
train hard, train smart, andbe the best you can be. Thanks
(39:42):
guys, Thanks everybody. Thanks,you're listening to the best experience we make best
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