October 3, 2025 • 25 mins
Episode 785:
In this episode, we explore Matthew 6:5-15, where Jesus teaches us about the nature of prayer. We discuss the importance of praying in private, away from the public eye, to foster a genuine connection with God. Jesus emphasizes that prayer should not be about showmanship or using elaborate language; rather, it should be a heartfelt conversation with our Heavenly Father.
In this episode, we explore Matthew 6:5-15, where Jesus teaches us about the nature of prayer. We discuss the importance of praying in private, away from the public eye, to foster a genuine connection with God. Jesus emphasizes that prayer should not be about showmanship or using elaborate language; rather, it should be a heartfelt conversation with our Heavenly Father.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a
couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in
practical ways. Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Bible guys. And
happy Friday.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Here we are.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I said happy Thursday before I know, but it's even
happier because Fridays are always happy. Let's be honest, Fridays
are sort of better.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Always happy. Yes, tgif Friday, Friday, Friday, that's right.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
And today we are wrapping up this week about prayers
of intercessory. They're actually in the middle of our sort
of bigger series, which is Dangerous Prayers and prayers of
intercession have just been the theme this week. So anyway,
before we get to that, we have a segment that
is actually it's actually called the Praise Report with a twist.
(00:49):
Oh and it says this desirata, each of you will
share something you're grateful for. This is a good one,
but you must describe it like it's a dramatic movie trailer.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
So I went to chat GPT for mine. Yeah, and yeah, okay, good,
do you want to go first? No?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
You should you go first? You go first?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
So I told chat GPT, Well, should I just read.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It read what you told chat GPT, No, or should
I just read the trailer? Read the trailer and then
tell them what you told me?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Okay, here we go. Ready, Yeah, you'll be able to
figure out what I'm paying for really quick.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
In a world filled with uncertainty, chaos, and cheap, scratchy
sandpaper disguise this toilet paper, one man dares to hope
for more, and then it happens. You walk in and
it's there, soft, strong quality, like wiping with the embrace
(01:49):
of an angel. Because when a company cares enough to
give you this kind of comfort in a public restroom,
just imagine the kind of excellence they bring to everything
else they do.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Wow, this is gratitude.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
This is luxury, This is hope softness.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Okay, so good, good, TP. That's what you're that's what
you're in a public place, in a public place. That's okay,
it's the little things, Chris, Yeah, it's just a little thing. Well,
I mean that's what you're grateful for. You could no, no, no,
that's a thing I'm grateful for. Okay, that's not the thing. Okay,
it just said type in something you're gr grateful for. Okay,
(02:33):
I chose something small. Yeah, so what did you type
in and tell it that you wanted it to help
you with?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
This is what I said, Write me a ninety Write
me a ninety second dramatic trailer about something I'm grateful for.
The thing I'm grateful for is when I walk into
a public restroom and there's a soft, quality, expensive toilet paper,
because there's nothing worse than cheap toilet paper that feels
like sandpaper. Include the fact that providing this kind of
care must mean that whatever product they are selling must
also be great.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
You you worked hard on that one.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I did, but I wanted to be specific.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
All right, Wow, now I feel kind of corny about mine.
Not corny because there's a serious and lovey yes. Okay,
thanks you for a wife. Yes I am, But that's
not what I wrote. Okay, this says deep booming voice,
slow build with swelling Strings's that's the if you have
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a soundtrack in your head. In a world where small
town kids may not make it very far, one young
man discovers that God's plan is bigger than his wildest dreams.
Blessed with a family, entrusted with a ministry, and carried
by a grace he never earned this fall. He realizes
the truth. It was never about me, It was always
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about him.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Okay, all right, so wow that's a that's an big
encompassing thing.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah. I just wrote I'm grateful for God's provision for
me and my family, and I'm grateful for his incredible
blessings on the ministries he's given me. I'm just a
small coound kid that can't figure out how I got
here from there. Okay, right there you go?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, all right, so yeah, yours was the opposite of mine.
I went, fun, yeah, and you went but yeah, he
is a big deal to Chris. If you don't know
one of his top five most important things in life, well,
I got to tell you there are times where my wife.
Every once in a while, my wife will stray and
she'll say, oh, just buy this, and I rebel.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, no, it's got to be. It's got to be
Sharman altra.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Sharman ultra is the thing in my home.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
So Chris is, uh, you are very aware of comfort,
very aware, very aware, very aware of comfort, temperature, humidity,
the comfort of your seats, the tpe, the clothes you wear, scratchy,
are you wet?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Right, all those things so comfort is a very very
high value thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
You know what, I never I never really I thought
I've really put in those terms before. But yeah, all
of that is comfortable, all of it, even being wet.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's just your thing. It's uh, Chad
asmin our executive pastor and I'll we'll talk about that
right that. Hey, we want to make sure this is
comfortable for Chris. Yeah, for real, because this big deal
for you. We want you to be comfortable and happy. So,
like I just the fact that I don't think about
that very much, The fact.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
That you even consider that is what a great jama's slippers,
What a great thing that you even carelanket on your couch.
I can't believe you think that you even care.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
We do.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I care.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
We want you to be comfortable, man, Gray figure you
know what, hey, this is what this is what good
trainers do with race horses. Make sure they're comfortable. So
when it's time they hit the track, they run hard
and I figure, you got a good horse ride, so
keep you comfortable on it.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah right, Yeah, all we have to do is make
them comfortable it's really not that hard, that's right.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, comfort is a thing. So good for you. Man,
that was really a good one. I thought you you
read it well, yeah, thank you you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Well, it was it was ridiculous. It was like, this
is hope.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yes, this is hope. It's so fun. It doesn't take well,
it's easy to lose hope when you're not come.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Sure, if that's a high value for you. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Well. And I've and I've always Chad's dreading what I'm
He's he's hoping. I'm not going to say this, but
I always poke fun of him at the deal that
he made with Heritage toilet paper oh at Church. Yeah,
because because it's a it's a deal. It's a company
that says, hey, if you.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Buy all of our products, yeah, yeah, you get a
really good deal.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
You get a good discount.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
But it's not Shriman Ultra.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
It's it's a far cry. If you have sandpaper on
one end and you have Sharman Alter on the other end,
it's sort of like over fifty percent this way, it's
past the fifty percent mark towards the sandpaper.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Okay, well, and I'm just like, I'm like, so if
we have any listeners left right right after riveting secon
we're only six minutes and forty nine years. Yeah, after
this riveting segment, maybe maybe what you need to do
is pray about it.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Oh, pray about the twelve favorite Yeah yeah, yeah, which
funny enough.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Jesus taught us to pray.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
You know that is funny. Yeah, But in the prayer
he gave a terrible transition.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
In the prayer rile okayful, So here you go. In
Matthew chapter six, verse five, it says, when you pray,
don't be like the hypocrites who love to pray publicly
on street corners and in the synagogues where everyone can
see them. I tell you the truth. That is all
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the reward they will ever get. But when you pray,
let me say again, but when you pray, go away
by yourself, shut the door behind you, and pray to
your father in private. And then your father, who sees everything,
will will reward you when you pray. Don't babbel and
on as the gentiles do. They think their prayers are
answered merely by repeating their words again and again. Don't
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be like them, for your father knows exactly what you need,
even before you ask him, pray like this, our father
in heaven, may your name be kept holy. May your
kingdom come soon, May or will be done on earth
as it is in heaven. Give us today the food
we need, and forgive us our sins, as we have
forgiven those who sin against us. And don't let us
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yield the temptation, but rescue us from the evil one.
If you forgive those who sin against you, your heavenly
father will forgive you. But if you refuse to forgive others,
your father will not forgive your sins. Well there you go.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Well, there it is. And so this is an intercessory
prayer because really it is praying on behalf of others
because the language is us, right, So it's not just me,
it's us. It's almost as if your prayer.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Give us today, forgive us our sins. Yeah, let us.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Either this is a prayer praying for a family unit
or a community or people, or a king, kingdom or
a nation.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Right, but either way, so it can be a personal prayer,
but it's written as a collective prayer it is, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, it definitely falls into the intercestor category.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
So this happens in Matthew chapter six. So Matthew five, six,
and seven are what we call the Sermon on the Mount,
which we referenced earlier this week in one of the
games we played, and in the Sermon on the Mount,
this is where Jesus teaches us. This is the longest
message he preaches in the Bible, and this is where
he teaches us almost all the things that have made
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it into mainstream society that we know. Jesus said, turn
the other cheek, go the extra mile. Judge, not that
you be not judged. He taught us the golden rule,
treat people the way you want to be treated.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Truth is such, you're free. Right.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
There's so many things in here that we know that
have kind of made it into pop culture. Jesus taught
us these things here, and then he teaches us to pray.
But it's interesting this prayer thing is in the middle
of three big things that he's kind of referencing. Is
my followers, do these things. He says, when you give
in verse two to someone in need, don't do his hypocrits,
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do looking for attention. Then he says, when you pray,
don't go out in public and always just be showing
off with your big, fancy words. Instead, this is a
private thing between you and God. And then in verse sixteen,
he says when you fast. So there's this expectation Jesus
has that his followers are going to be generous to others.
They're going to pray to God, They're going to fast
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on behalf of their own situations and the needs of others. Right,
those three things, they're kind of an expectation. He doesn't
say if you pray, or if you give, or if
you fast. He says, when you do these things. And
so there's kind of this understanding that there are certain behaviors,
certain disciplines that Christians would do, followers of God would
be doing. And this is one of the expectations.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Which is the series that we're in. Yes, old school
now old schools and attitudes and disciplines and habits of
Christians and what Christians do.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
So then prayer should be a habit is kind of
where I was going with that, Right, this is one
of the things that God's God's people should be doing.
And so he's not saying don't ever pray out loud
in front of other people. You know, when you read
that beginning, he says, hey, go go by yourself, shut
the door behind you, pray to your father in private.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
You're talking about the motivation.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
He's talking about motivation, right, because the Pharisees and some
of the hypocrites they loved just getting everybody's prayer, the
big prayers, use the big words, deep voice, public humility
and all that kind of stuff, and then Jesus just
saying that fake and.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
That's and by the way, that's the again, that's the
reason why my mind goes toward not giving the Pharisees credit,
because it's like they just they were just all about
not necessarily the heart of what's honest and real, Like
the prayer didn't matter as much as the glory.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Right, So anyway, does that does that? It doesn't say
Pharisees are just as hypocrites are wrecked.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
But I think another version says pharisees another translations, another
gospel saystem yeah, look it up, because that'd be an
interesting tidbit. But anyway, I love how he says, don't pontificate, yes,
don't don't use big words and just ramble on, and
then he says don't use the words again and again.
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In other words, what he's saying, is repetition ain't going
to get you anywhere?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Right right?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
So, and by the way, it's a little ironic because
then he lays out the Lord's prayer that's commonly known
as the Lord's Prayer that people in a lot of
faiths they actually repeat over and over, like, hey, say
ten our fathers, right, and so, which is repetition? And
yet it comes just a few verses after him saying
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repetition is not going to get you anywhere.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
And then interesting, and by the way, you don't have
to keep saying the same thing over and over and over, right, right, right,
So please forgive me God, Please forgive me God. Please.
Let's and by the.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Way, that right, And that's not me putting down a
certain faith in general. I have actually a lot of
respect for the faith that I grew up in, which
taught this right. You know, hey, say a bunch of
you know our fathers. I grew up in that faith,
and I have a lot of respect for it. So
that's not me disrespecting it. But what I am saying
is this, there is a pretty fundamental difference in belief
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and that's okay. And so I believe that this was
not given to recite. Now, do I believe reciting this
prayer is a bad thing. No, of course, not reciting
it's a good thing. That's fine. But the idea of
saying like, okay, the greater the sin, the more you
have to repeat. Well, that's clearly what Jesus said doesn't
get you anywhere, right, And so that it's not. And
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besides that, here's the other reason why we know that
it wasn't given to us as a prayer to recite
is because in another gospel, when he teaches us how
to pray, he leaves a certain part out right, So
it's like, so it's like, so he taught us to
pray differently. So it's almost as if, you know, you
go to the other gospel and you say, Jesus, don't
you know the Lord's prayer? Right? And Jesus like, that's
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because it's not something to recite. It's a it's a
it's a pattern, isn't it. It's a model. It is
Jesus is saying, hey, here's the building blocks of a
great prayer.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Right, So anyway, was it the Pharisees and the other gospels?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
No, it was not.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Okay, so I just think in translation, and so I
attached it. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, So so maybe it
was the maybe it was the maybe I'm thinking of
the Pharisee staying on the corner, putting ashes on the wall.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
He calls them hypocrites. Remember fast Yeah, remember.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I think I think it's the Pharisees putting ashes on
their heads. Yeah, it's fasting.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
So this idea, Jesus does teach us to be persistent
in prayer. So he's not saying it's wrong to come
back to God with the same prayer request you had
last time. Correct, that's not wrong. So he teaches us
to be persistent. He talks about the woman who keeps
coming back to the judge. He talks about right, continuing
to knock on the door, continue to ask, continue to
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see right. So he's not saying that persistence is wrong.
He's saying that that going through the motions over and
over and over again is wrong. Like, so I was
with somebody from another faith who also is famous for praying,
and we were getting ready to go do a thing,
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but it was time for prayers, and so I said, oh, okay, hey,
you know what, I'll wait. Oh no, I get this
done real quick. I know this prayer come back over right,
So I just remember. So then I asked him about it, So, oh,
I say that prayer every time I'm in a hurry,
I just hurry up and do that one. I said, well,
it feels a little perfunctory as well. We're commanded to
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we have to pray five times a day, we have
to do this. And so then it turned into a
conversation about prayer, and I said, you know, Jesus said,
don't just keep saying the same words over and over
and over again, repetitively. What God's looking for is a
relational experience right where we're speaking from our hearts, your heart, right,
he wants our hearts. And in another translation, it says,
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when you pray, don't Babylon and on as the Pagans do.
It's what the King James says. Right here, he says,
as the gentiles do, because they think their prayers are
answered merely by repeating their words again and again. An incantation,
a spell, right, some kind of that. That's how a
lot of people feel.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
It.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
If I just chant this thing, oh, then I'm going
to be able to get God's attention. And what Jesus
is saying, listen, it's not spells, it's not incantations, it's
not chanting. It's going to get my attention. It's a
personal conversation between a child and his father. That that's
what gets my attention. And then he goes, hey, here's
a good framework if you're going to talk to your
dad about these things. First of all, acknowledge who he is, right,
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our father, who art in heaven. That's so we're acknowledging
who he is. Hollowed be your name or in this one,
may your name be kept holy. That's the meaning of it.
What we're doing now is we're celebrating him for who
he is. That's that's really what you're doing there. You're
the creator, you're the provider. You're the one that can
you know, is not bound by this earth or no
problem is too big for you. That's what we're doing.
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We're having a conversation. It's not specifically those words, it's
that attitude. And then when he says, may your kingdom
come soon, he's he and may year will be done
as it is on earth as it is in heaven.
Is saying now, and you're in charge, So I recognize
who you are. I recognize that there's nothing you can't do,
and so I want you to do what you decide
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is best. Right, that's really what you're saying there.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
So the building so that you're just boring me, Yeah,
sorry about that, bully, Chris is bored by prayer.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
So the uh, the building blocks that I was referring
to earlier is our number one is declared God's greatness.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yes, and then then the second.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
One is acknowledge our dependence, right, our dependence for what,
our dependence for his is?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Uh, you know, give us today this is yeah, the food,
forgive us our sins.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Forgive us of our sins. And so there's there's there's
a list of things that were dependent on him. But
but declare God's greatness is the first building block, which
I love. I love that most of us learned it.
Hallowed be thy name, right, Yeah, and it says here,
may your name be kept holy. But another translation for
hallowed be thy name, actually a better translation is great
is your name hallowed? How it means great, great is
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your name? And that's what it is. It's declaring God's greatness.
It's recognizing just to it is your praying too, in
the moment.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I push on that just a little bit. Holy is
what hallowed means, Hallowed means set aside. Yeah, so a
better translation is holy is holy. But because your name
is set aside, it's greater than every name. It's it's
beyond right, So it's not wrong. It's just you know,
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to say, great is your name, but his name is
only great because it's so far beyond all the rest
of ours. That that's that's the idea You're saying.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Greatness would be a byproduct of the real translation, which
would be holyness accurately like holy. Yeah, yeah, so holy
is your.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Right, right, But we we think of holy raw, right,
We tend to think of holy as like without sin.
Of course, that's a word. That's a meaning of it. Yeah,
But holy means set apart that that that's really what
it means at its foundation is it's it's been set
apart for God, only for God's use, only for God's benefit.
Which was that could be the idea of great Yes,
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and that's it is. Your name is so far set
apart from ours, it's almost incomprehensible how great you and
your name are compared to interesting little people. Interesting? Yeah, yeah,
so it's it's both. It's like flip sides of the
same coin, right, Yeah, it's very interesting.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah. And then and then uh, and then he goes
on and he asks for dependence on all these different things.
And I think that in the end, I think God
wants us to uh, you know, concentrate on ourselves because
he removes everybody else out of the equation. He says,
he says, get get yourself into a private place to pray. Right.
So now again, like you said, praying in public is
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not wrong, right, but he's talking about your motivation for prayer.
And he says, say, when you pray, go to away
by yourself, shut the door behind you, and pray to
your father in private. Then your father, who sees everything,
will reward you. And what he's really saying is is
he's saying, like, don't do it in public for the
wrong motivation. If you do it in private, your father
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is the only one that needs to hear you, right,
other people don't need to hear you. It's fine if
they do. And on occasion, that's not what he's saying.
What he's saying, your motivation for your reward for your
prayer only needs to be your father.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yes, right, yeah, Well there's an intimacy in this. Jesus
prayed public correct manytimes all the time. Oh Father, you know,
help me do this so that people would see how
great you are. He many times Jesus prays publicly. But
there's a public conversation I have with my friends and
in the thousands of people who attend Heritage Church and
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all the people who listen online. And then there's also
the intimate family conversations that only me and my wife
and my kids are having, right, And what Jesus is
inviting you to is if you only participate in public prayer, right, One,
don't be prideful like the Pharisees or the hypocrites are here,
that's one. Don't just do it for your own attention
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spiritually and going through the religious ritual of saying your
incantation and your chanting. But do you know what I
think what he's trying to do is he's trying to say,
don't you know there's an intimate conversation you can have
with God that's private, that's not for everybody else. Right,
Thanking God for the food at the dinner table is
very different than the kind of conversation that you can
have with God privately. And that's what he's inviting us too,
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is this intimacy with God that you can't have in public.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah. Have you ever met anybody with a prayer closet?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah? Yeah, lots of people.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, where they actually have a dedicated closet or space
where it's just a prayer thing.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah. I have a good buddy of mine, my pastor
growing up, had one have a good.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Buddy of mine who bought a building in the county
somewhere to run a business. And he's a mechanic, so
you know, he's always like greased up and you know,
they always covered in grease and oil. And he has
it upstairs that is will never be finished because of
something with the city blah blah blah. So he has
this upstairs that could be remodeled and be this whole
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second floor where you could put a business. I mean,
it is a monstrosity of a place, but he can't
do it. So it's like this wasted space. And that's
a big, long story. So he has this big, huge
staircase and he has what he has now named the
upper room, and and he says, what do I do
with this and he says, I know it. Actually it
was his wife who said, I'll create a prayer prayer space,
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and so and so it's you know, it's it's this
the one little area that is near a bay window
near the front of the place, and she's just decked
out this wooden, unfinished area and she's made this little
haven and they call it the Upper Room. So that
so from time to time he'll he'll be having a
bad day at work and he's like, I'll be back
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right and he just walks up the stairs and they're
like there he.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Goes, go to the upper room, go in the upper room,
and then amazing.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah, but it's a dedicated space and if you think
about it, it's very much like this concept.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
It's it's a prayer closet, so to speak. It's a
very big one. But he's, uh, he's like, I want
to be in private and I want to go to
my heavenly Father. And in this case, he's able to
do it in the middle of his day where he
can come back down and say, okay, let's go.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, good to go.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
But it's great.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
So so then we ask God to provide what we
need for today. We don't worry about tomorrow. Just Lord
provide for us. Today, we confess our sin, which I
think is important. It's interesting most of us start off
with our sin. God, I'm sorry for my sin. I'm sorry.
I don't deserve to be talking to you. Which forgive
my sining? Right, that's requests yeah, yeah, or we ignore
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our sin and just go straight to hey, this is
what I need. So we got to start off with
who God is and the fact that God's in control
and it's his will. But then we do get to
these other things. Here's what I need. Would you forgive
my sins? And then he says, forgive us our sins,
as we have forgiven those who sin against us. And
so you know, there's a passages in the Bible says
we love because He first loved us. Paul challenges us
with the idea that we should forgive because we've been forgiven.
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Same idea, and Jesus actually says those words, if you
forgive those who if you forgive those who sin against you,
your heavenly father will forgive you. But if you refuse
to forgive others, your father will not forgive your sins.
That's a really strong statement, right, but we talked about
forgiveness yesterday, didn't We were talking about that. That Alls,
I'm I'm not saying what you did is okay. Alls.
I'm saying is I'm giving God the responsibility of bringing justice,
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not me. Right, I'm giving up my right to prosecute.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
I was just going to make note of this note
in the in my Bible it says this prayer begins
with God's interests not ours, God's name not ours, God's
kingdom not ours, and God's will not ours. Yeah, we
should not ask anything. Yeah, it's just interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, that's really well.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Hey, that looks like our time, and thanks for joining
us this week. Hopefully it's been a great theme and
a great thing to ponder on. But hopefully we'll pick
up next time with a different theme under the umbrella
of dangerous and we'll see you then. Mhm.
You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a
couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in
practical ways. Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Bible guys. And
happy Friday.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Here we are.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I said happy Thursday before I know, but it's even
happier because Fridays are always happy. Let's be honest, Fridays
are sort of better.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Always happy. Yes, tgif Friday, Friday, Friday, that's right.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
And today we are wrapping up this week about prayers
of intercessory. They're actually in the middle of our sort
of bigger series, which is Dangerous Prayers and prayers of
intercession have just been the theme this week. So anyway,
before we get to that, we have a segment that
is actually it's actually called the Praise Report with a twist.
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Oh and it says this desirata, each of you will
share something you're grateful for. This is a good one,
but you must describe it like it's a dramatic movie trailer.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
So I went to chat GPT for mine. Yeah, and yeah, okay, good,
do you want to go first? No?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
You should you go first? You go first?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
So I told chat GPT, Well, should I just read.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It read what you told chat GPT, No, or should
I just read the trailer? Read the trailer and then
tell them what you told me?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Okay, here we go. Ready, Yeah, you'll be able to
figure out what I'm paying for really quick.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
In a world filled with uncertainty, chaos, and cheap, scratchy
sandpaper disguise this toilet paper, one man dares to hope
for more, and then it happens. You walk in and
it's there, soft, strong quality, like wiping with the embrace
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of an angel. Because when a company cares enough to
give you this kind of comfort in a public restroom,
just imagine the kind of excellence they bring to everything
else they do.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Wow, this is gratitude.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
This is luxury, This is hope softness.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Okay, so good, good, TP. That's what you're that's what
you're in a public place, in a public place. That's okay,
it's the little things, Chris, Yeah, it's just a little thing. Well,
I mean that's what you're grateful for. You could no, no, no,
that's a thing I'm grateful for. Okay, that's not the thing. Okay,
it just said type in something you're gr grateful for. Okay,
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I chose something small. Yeah, so what did you type
in and tell it that you wanted it to help
you with?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
This is what I said, Write me a ninety Write
me a ninety second dramatic trailer about something I'm grateful for.
The thing I'm grateful for is when I walk into
a public restroom and there's a soft, quality, expensive toilet paper,
because there's nothing worse than cheap toilet paper that feels
like sandpaper. Include the fact that providing this kind of
care must mean that whatever product they are selling must
also be great.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
You you worked hard on that one.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I did, but I wanted to be specific.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
All right, Wow, now I feel kind of corny about mine.
Not corny because there's a serious and lovey yes. Okay,
thanks you for a wife. Yes I am, But that's
not what I wrote. Okay, this says deep booming voice,
slow build with swelling Strings's that's the if you have
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a soundtrack in your head. In a world where small
town kids may not make it very far, one young
man discovers that God's plan is bigger than his wildest dreams.
Blessed with a family, entrusted with a ministry, and carried
by a grace he never earned this fall. He realizes
the truth. It was never about me, It was always
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about him.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Okay, all right, so wow that's a that's an big
encompassing thing.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah. I just wrote I'm grateful for God's provision for
me and my family, and I'm grateful for his incredible
blessings on the ministries he's given me. I'm just a
small coound kid that can't figure out how I got
here from there. Okay, right there you go?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, all right, so yeah, yours was the opposite of mine.
I went, fun, yeah, and you went but yeah, he
is a big deal to Chris. If you don't know
one of his top five most important things in life, well,
I got to tell you there are times where my wife.
Every once in a while, my wife will stray and
she'll say, oh, just buy this, and I rebel.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, no, it's got to be. It's got to be
Sharman altra.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Sharman ultra is the thing in my home.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
So Chris is, uh, you are very aware of comfort,
very aware, very aware, very aware of comfort, temperature, humidity,
the comfort of your seats, the tpe, the clothes you wear, scratchy,
are you wet?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Right, all those things so comfort is a very very
high value thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
You know what, I never I never really I thought
I've really put in those terms before. But yeah, all
of that is comfortable, all of it, even being wet.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's just your thing. It's uh, Chad
asmin our executive pastor and I'll we'll talk about that
right that. Hey, we want to make sure this is
comfortable for Chris. Yeah, for real, because this big deal
for you. We want you to be comfortable and happy. So,
like I just the fact that I don't think about
that very much, The fact.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
That you even consider that is what a great jama's slippers,
What a great thing that you even carelanket on your couch.
I can't believe you think that you even care.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
We do.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I care.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
We want you to be comfortable, man, Gray figure you
know what, hey, this is what this is what good
trainers do with race horses. Make sure they're comfortable. So
when it's time they hit the track, they run hard
and I figure, you got a good horse ride, so
keep you comfortable on it.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah right, Yeah, all we have to do is make
them comfortable it's really not that hard, that's right.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, comfort is a thing. So good for you. Man,
that was really a good one. I thought you you
read it well, yeah, thank you you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Well, it was it was ridiculous. It was like, this
is hope.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yes, this is hope. It's so fun. It doesn't take well,
it's easy to lose hope when you're not come.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Sure, if that's a high value for you. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Well. And I've and I've always Chad's dreading what I'm
He's he's hoping. I'm not going to say this, but
I always poke fun of him at the deal that
he made with Heritage toilet paper oh at Church. Yeah,
because because it's a it's a deal. It's a company
that says, hey, if you.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Buy all of our products, yeah, yeah, you get a
really good deal.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
You get a good discount.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
But it's not Shriman Ultra.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
It's it's a far cry. If you have sandpaper on
one end and you have Sharman Alter on the other end,
it's sort of like over fifty percent this way, it's
past the fifty percent mark towards the sandpaper.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Okay, well, and I'm just like, I'm like, so if
we have any listeners left right right after riveting secon
we're only six minutes and forty nine years. Yeah, after
this riveting segment, maybe maybe what you need to do
is pray about it.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Oh, pray about the twelve favorite Yeah yeah, yeah, which
funny enough.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Jesus taught us to pray.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
You know that is funny. Yeah, But in the prayer
he gave a terrible transition.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
In the prayer rile okayful, So here you go. In
Matthew chapter six, verse five, it says, when you pray,
don't be like the hypocrites who love to pray publicly
on street corners and in the synagogues where everyone can
see them. I tell you the truth. That is all
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the reward they will ever get. But when you pray,
let me say again, but when you pray, go away
by yourself, shut the door behind you, and pray to
your father in private. And then your father, who sees everything,
will will reward you when you pray. Don't babbel and
on as the gentiles do. They think their prayers are
answered merely by repeating their words again and again. Don't
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be like them, for your father knows exactly what you need,
even before you ask him, pray like this, our father
in heaven, may your name be kept holy. May your
kingdom come soon, May or will be done on earth
as it is in heaven. Give us today the food
we need, and forgive us our sins, as we have
forgiven those who sin against us. And don't let us
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yield the temptation, but rescue us from the evil one.
If you forgive those who sin against you, your heavenly
father will forgive you. But if you refuse to forgive others,
your father will not forgive your sins. Well there you go.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Well, there it is. And so this is an intercessory
prayer because really it is praying on behalf of others
because the language is us, right, So it's not just me,
it's us. It's almost as if your prayer.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Give us today, forgive us our sins. Yeah, let us.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Either this is a prayer praying for a family unit
or a community or people, or a king, kingdom or
a nation.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Right, but either way, so it can be a personal prayer,
but it's written as a collective prayer it is, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, it definitely falls into the intercestor category.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
So this happens in Matthew chapter six. So Matthew five, six,
and seven are what we call the Sermon on the Mount,
which we referenced earlier this week in one of the
games we played, and in the Sermon on the Mount,
this is where Jesus teaches us. This is the longest
message he preaches in the Bible, and this is where
he teaches us almost all the things that have made
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it into mainstream society that we know. Jesus said, turn
the other cheek, go the extra mile. Judge, not that
you be not judged. He taught us the golden rule,
treat people the way you want to be treated.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Truth is such, you're free. Right.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
There's so many things in here that we know that
have kind of made it into pop culture. Jesus taught
us these things here, and then he teaches us to pray.
But it's interesting this prayer thing is in the middle
of three big things that he's kind of referencing. Is
my followers, do these things. He says, when you give
in verse two to someone in need, don't do his hypocrits,
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do looking for attention. Then he says, when you pray,
don't go out in public and always just be showing
off with your big, fancy words. Instead, this is a
private thing between you and God. And then in verse sixteen,
he says when you fast. So there's this expectation Jesus
has that his followers are going to be generous to others.
They're going to pray to God, They're going to fast
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on behalf of their own situations and the needs of others. Right,
those three things, they're kind of an expectation. He doesn't
say if you pray, or if you give, or if
you fast. He says, when you do these things. And
so there's kind of this understanding that there are certain behaviors,
certain disciplines that Christians would do, followers of God would
be doing. And this is one of the expectations.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Which is the series that we're in. Yes, old school
now old schools and attitudes and disciplines and habits of
Christians and what Christians do.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
So then prayer should be a habit is kind of
where I was going with that, Right, this is one
of the things that God's God's people should be doing.
And so he's not saying don't ever pray out loud
in front of other people. You know, when you read
that beginning, he says, hey, go go by yourself, shut
the door behind you, pray to your father in private.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
You're talking about the motivation.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
He's talking about motivation, right, because the Pharisees and some
of the hypocrites they loved just getting everybody's prayer, the
big prayers, use the big words, deep voice, public humility
and all that kind of stuff, and then Jesus just
saying that fake and.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
That's and by the way, that's the again, that's the
reason why my mind goes toward not giving the Pharisees credit,
because it's like they just they were just all about
not necessarily the heart of what's honest and real, Like
the prayer didn't matter as much as the glory.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Right, So anyway, does that does that? It doesn't say
Pharisees are just as hypocrites are wrecked.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
But I think another version says pharisees another translations, another
gospel saystem yeah, look it up, because that'd be an
interesting tidbit. But anyway, I love how he says, don't pontificate, yes,
don't don't use big words and just ramble on, and
then he says don't use the words again and again.
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In other words, what he's saying, is repetition ain't going
to get you anywhere?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Right right?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
So, and by the way, it's a little ironic because
then he lays out the Lord's prayer that's commonly known
as the Lord's Prayer that people in a lot of
faiths they actually repeat over and over, like, hey, say
ten our fathers, right, and so, which is repetition? And
yet it comes just a few verses after him saying
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repetition is not going to get you anywhere.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
And then interesting, and by the way, you don't have
to keep saying the same thing over and over and over, right, right, right,
So please forgive me God, Please forgive me God. Please.
Let's and by the.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Way, that right, And that's not me putting down a
certain faith in general. I have actually a lot of
respect for the faith that I grew up in, which
taught this right. You know, hey, say a bunch of
you know our fathers. I grew up in that faith,
and I have a lot of respect for it. So
that's not me disrespecting it. But what I am saying
is this, there is a pretty fundamental difference in belief
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and that's okay. And so I believe that this was
not given to recite. Now, do I believe reciting this
prayer is a bad thing. No, of course, not reciting
it's a good thing. That's fine. But the idea of
saying like, okay, the greater the sin, the more you
have to repeat. Well, that's clearly what Jesus said doesn't
get you anywhere, right, And so that it's not. And
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besides that, here's the other reason why we know that
it wasn't given to us as a prayer to recite
is because in another gospel, when he teaches us how
to pray, he leaves a certain part out right, So
it's like, so it's like, so he taught us to
pray differently. So it's almost as if, you know, you
go to the other gospel and you say, Jesus, don't
you know the Lord's prayer? Right? And Jesus like, that's
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because it's not something to recite. It's a it's a
it's a pattern, isn't it. It's a model. It is
Jesus is saying, hey, here's the building blocks of a
great prayer.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Right, So anyway, was it the Pharisees and the other gospels?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
No, it was not.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Okay, so I just think in translation, and so I
attached it. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, So so maybe it
was the maybe it was the maybe I'm thinking of
the Pharisee staying on the corner, putting ashes on the wall.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
He calls them hypocrites. Remember fast Yeah, remember.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I think I think it's the Pharisees putting ashes on
their heads. Yeah, it's fasting.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
So this idea, Jesus does teach us to be persistent
in prayer. So he's not saying it's wrong to come
back to God with the same prayer request you had
last time. Correct, that's not wrong. So he teaches us
to be persistent. He talks about the woman who keeps
coming back to the judge. He talks about right, continuing
to knock on the door, continue to ask, continue to
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see right. So he's not saying that persistence is wrong.
He's saying that that going through the motions over and
over and over again is wrong. Like, so I was
with somebody from another faith who also is famous for praying,
and we were getting ready to go do a thing,
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but it was time for prayers, and so I said, oh, okay, hey,
you know what, I'll wait. Oh no, I get this
done real quick. I know this prayer come back over right,
So I just remember. So then I asked him about it, So, oh,
I say that prayer every time I'm in a hurry,
I just hurry up and do that one. I said, well,
it feels a little perfunctory as well. We're commanded to
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we have to pray five times a day, we have
to do this. And so then it turned into a
conversation about prayer, and I said, you know, Jesus said,
don't just keep saying the same words over and over
and over again, repetitively. What God's looking for is a
relational experience right where we're speaking from our hearts, your heart, right,
he wants our hearts. And in another translation, it says,
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when you pray, don't Babylon and on as the Pagans do.
It's what the King James says. Right here, he says,
as the gentiles do, because they think their prayers are
answered merely by repeating their words again and again. An incantation,
a spell, right, some kind of that. That's how a
lot of people feel.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
It.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
If I just chant this thing, oh, then I'm going
to be able to get God's attention. And what Jesus
is saying, listen, it's not spells, it's not incantations, it's
not chanting. It's going to get my attention. It's a
personal conversation between a child and his father. That that's
what gets my attention. And then he goes, hey, here's
a good framework if you're going to talk to your
dad about these things. First of all, acknowledge who he is, right,
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our father, who art in heaven. That's so we're acknowledging
who he is. Hollowed be your name or in this one,
may your name be kept holy. That's the meaning of it.
What we're doing now is we're celebrating him for who
he is. That's that's really what you're doing there. You're
the creator, you're the provider. You're the one that can
you know, is not bound by this earth or no
problem is too big for you. That's what we're doing.
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We're having a conversation. It's not specifically those words, it's
that attitude. And then when he says, may your kingdom
come soon, he's he and may year will be done
as it is on earth as it is in heaven.
Is saying now, and you're in charge, So I recognize
who you are. I recognize that there's nothing you can't do,
and so I want you to do what you decide
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is best. Right, that's really what you're saying there.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
So the building so that you're just boring me, Yeah,
sorry about that, bully, Chris is bored by prayer.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
So the uh, the building blocks that I was referring
to earlier is our number one is declared God's greatness.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yes, and then then the second.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
One is acknowledge our dependence, right, our dependence for what,
our dependence for his is?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Uh, you know, give us today this is yeah, the food,
forgive us our sins.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Forgive us of our sins. And so there's there's there's
a list of things that were dependent on him. But
but declare God's greatness is the first building block, which
I love. I love that most of us learned it.
Hallowed be thy name, right, Yeah, and it says here,
may your name be kept holy. But another translation for
hallowed be thy name, actually a better translation is great
is your name hallowed? How it means great, great is
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your name? And that's what it is. It's declaring God's greatness.
It's recognizing just to it is your praying too, in
the moment.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I push on that just a little bit. Holy is
what hallowed means, Hallowed means set aside. Yeah, so a
better translation is holy is holy. But because your name
is set aside, it's greater than every name. It's it's
beyond right, So it's not wrong. It's just you know,
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to say, great is your name, but his name is
only great because it's so far beyond all the rest
of ours. That that's that's the idea You're saying.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Greatness would be a byproduct of the real translation, which
would be holyness accurately like holy. Yeah, yeah, so holy
is your.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Right, right, But we we think of holy raw, right,
We tend to think of holy as like without sin.
Of course, that's a word. That's a meaning of it. Yeah,
But holy means set apart that that that's really what
it means at its foundation is it's it's been set
apart for God, only for God's use, only for God's benefit.
Which was that could be the idea of great Yes,
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and that's it is. Your name is so far set
apart from ours, it's almost incomprehensible how great you and
your name are compared to interesting little people. Interesting? Yeah, yeah,
so it's it's both. It's like flip sides of the
same coin, right, Yeah, it's very interesting.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah. And then and then uh, and then he goes
on and he asks for dependence on all these different things.
And I think that in the end, I think God
wants us to uh, you know, concentrate on ourselves because
he removes everybody else out of the equation. He says,
he says, get get yourself into a private place to pray. Right.
So now again, like you said, praying in public is
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not wrong, right, but he's talking about your motivation for prayer.
And he says, say, when you pray, go to away
by yourself, shut the door behind you, and pray to
your father in private. Then your father, who sees everything,
will reward you. And what he's really saying is is
he's saying, like, don't do it in public for the
wrong motivation. If you do it in private, your father
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is the only one that needs to hear you, right,
other people don't need to hear you. It's fine if
they do. And on occasion, that's not what he's saying.
What he's saying, your motivation for your reward for your
prayer only needs to be your father.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yes, right, yeah, Well there's an intimacy in this. Jesus
prayed public correct manytimes all the time. Oh Father, you know,
help me do this so that people would see how
great you are. He many times Jesus prays publicly. But
there's a public conversation I have with my friends and
in the thousands of people who attend Heritage Church and
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all the people who listen online. And then there's also
the intimate family conversations that only me and my wife
and my kids are having, right, And what Jesus is
inviting you to is if you only participate in public prayer, right, One,
don't be prideful like the Pharisees or the hypocrites are here,
that's one. Don't just do it for your own attention
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spiritually and going through the religious ritual of saying your
incantation and your chanting. But do you know what I
think what he's trying to do is he's trying to say,
don't you know there's an intimate conversation you can have
with God that's private, that's not for everybody else. Right,
Thanking God for the food at the dinner table is
very different than the kind of conversation that you can
have with God privately. And that's what he's inviting us too,
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is this intimacy with God that you can't have in public.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah. Have you ever met anybody with a prayer closet?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah? Yeah, lots of people.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, where they actually have a dedicated closet or space
where it's just a prayer thing.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah. I have a good buddy of mine, my pastor
growing up, had one have a good.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Buddy of mine who bought a building in the county
somewhere to run a business. And he's a mechanic, so
you know, he's always like greased up and you know,
they always covered in grease and oil. And he has
it upstairs that is will never be finished because of
something with the city blah blah blah. So he has
this upstairs that could be remodeled and be this whole
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second floor where you could put a business. I mean,
it is a monstrosity of a place, but he can't
do it. So it's like this wasted space. And that's
a big, long story. So he has this big, huge
staircase and he has what he has now named the
upper room, and and he says, what do I do
with this and he says, I know it. Actually it
was his wife who said, I'll create a prayer prayer space,
(22:40):
and so and so it's you know, it's it's this
the one little area that is near a bay window
near the front of the place, and she's just decked
out this wooden, unfinished area and she's made this little
haven and they call it the Upper Room. So that
so from time to time he'll he'll be having a
bad day at work and he's like, I'll be back
(23:01):
right and he just walks up the stairs and they're
like there he.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Goes, go to the upper room, go in the upper room,
and then amazing.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah, but it's a dedicated space and if you think
about it, it's very much like this concept.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
It's it's a prayer closet, so to speak. It's a
very big one. But he's, uh, he's like, I want
to be in private and I want to go to
my heavenly Father. And in this case, he's able to
do it in the middle of his day where he
can come back down and say, okay, let's go.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, good to go.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
But it's great.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
So so then we ask God to provide what we
need for today. We don't worry about tomorrow. Just Lord
provide for us. Today, we confess our sin, which I
think is important. It's interesting most of us start off
with our sin. God, I'm sorry for my sin. I'm sorry.
I don't deserve to be talking to you. Which forgive
my sining? Right, that's requests yeah, yeah, or we ignore
(23:49):
our sin and just go straight to hey, this is
what I need. So we got to start off with
who God is and the fact that God's in control
and it's his will. But then we do get to
these other things. Here's what I need. Would you forgive
my sins? And then he says, forgive us our sins,
as we have forgiven those who sin against us. And
so you know, there's a passages in the Bible says
we love because He first loved us. Paul challenges us
with the idea that we should forgive because we've been forgiven.
(24:11):
Same idea, and Jesus actually says those words, if you
forgive those who if you forgive those who sin against you,
your heavenly father will forgive you. But if you refuse
to forgive others, your father will not forgive your sins.
That's a really strong statement, right, but we talked about
forgiveness yesterday, didn't We were talking about that. That Alls,
I'm I'm not saying what you did is okay. Alls.
I'm saying is I'm giving God the responsibility of bringing justice,
(24:34):
not me. Right, I'm giving up my right to prosecute.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
I was just going to make note of this note
in the in my Bible it says this prayer begins
with God's interests not ours, God's name not ours, God's
kingdom not ours, and God's will not ours. Yeah, we
should not ask anything. Yeah, it's just interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, that's really well.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Hey, that looks like our time, and thanks for joining
us this week. Hopefully it's been a great theme and
a great thing to ponder on. But hopefully we'll pick
up next time with a different theme under the umbrella
of dangerous and we'll see you then. Mhm.
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