November 17, 2025 • 24 mins
Episode 816:
In this episode, Chris and Jeff focus on 2 Thessalonians 3, particularly verse 3, which emphasizes that "the Lord is faithful; he will strengthen you and guard you from the evil one." Chris and Jeff discuss the context of this promise, highlighting that it was directed towards the church in Thessalonica, where believers faced opposition and danger while spreading the gospel. They emphasize that God's protection is not a blanket promise for all situations but is particularly relevant in the context of sharing the gospel.
In this episode, Chris and Jeff focus on 2 Thessalonians 3, particularly verse 3, which emphasizes that "the Lord is faithful; he will strengthen you and guard you from the evil one." Chris and Jeff discuss the context of this promise, highlighting that it was directed towards the church in Thessalonica, where believers faced opposition and danger while spreading the gospel. They emphasize that God's protection is not a blanket promise for all situations but is particularly relevant in the context of sharing the gospel.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a
couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in
practical ways. Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Bible Guys. I'm Chris, this.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
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So hopefully you'll enjoy this makeshift table.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
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Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, we will. We will. And if you're watching on video,
you know that if you're not, then nobody cares.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
It's a difficult life we live, Yes, such a hard thing.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
We're recording it a temporary space.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Oh so bad.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So we are in middle of a series called God's
Promises and we're thinking about or we're not thinking. We
are going through contemplating. No, no, I mean we're not contemplating.
I mean we're discussing, discussing different promises, one for each week.
They're themed and they're different context for the same promise.
That's right, right, So we're talking this week about God's protection.
(01:10):
But before we do that, we have our classic dad
joke competition. Ooh classic, it is classic. Okay, so we're
gonna just read all five. Each will take turns and
then decide who has the better batch of jokes.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Okay, all right, have you looked at yours yet?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I did not look at mine either. So here it goes.
Are you ready? Let me do it first? Okay? I
get number one. I had to return the vacuum cleaner.
It sucked.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Oh that was That was pretty good because it was straight,
straight forward.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah yeah, yeah, just right on the nose, right on
the nose.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
There's a shock value to that one.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, okay, I like it good.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Okay, number number one for me. Why can't your nose
be twelve inches long?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I don't know, because then it would be a foot okay, clever? Yeah, okay,
all right, what's an astronaut's favorite chocolate Mars bar? That's
a rough one.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, that's pretty rough?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
All right?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Okay. Why don't eggs tell jokes?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I don't know, they crack each other up? Oh no,
is this the way today's going?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I think?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Oh boy, I think we're going downhill? Do you think?
By the way, so you know you're a little bit
of a conspiracy theorist. You'll go down the rabbit hole.
Sure do you think does gives us bad dad jokes
on Monday just to make Monday worse?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Do you think what that is a theory?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Do you think that's what she's doing?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
That is a theory? Right?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Because I mean there's times we laugh, we laughed so hard, yes,
and then you know Monday ones. You know what I think, really, mars.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Bar, I think we may be giving her too much credit.
I'm not sure she does.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
She's sitting right over there. I know she's like some
evil you know, I don't know, sitting in her lair.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
She's plotting against us, sitting with bad dad jokes. Okay, anyway, sorry, sorry,
does we didn't mean to go ahead? Number three my
wife rearranged the labels on my spice rack. I haven't
confronted her yet, but the time is cuman.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Oh that was worse than.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
All of them.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Okay, this one's not horrible. Okay, what do you get
when you put a duck in a cement mixer? I
don't know, quacks in the pavement, So this is not good.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
But the concept of a duck in this sent Max
for funny Man. Yeahs, I'm so close to becoming a billionaire.
I have all the zeros now I just need a one.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
There you go. Okay, that's good, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, I got all the zeros. Yeah, nine zeros.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Baby, all right, here we go, ready, now this one.
See they progressively get better. I like this one.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Scientists recently managed to weigh a rainbow. Turns out it
was pretty light.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Pretty light. Yeah, he's pretty like, you get it. It's
pretty it's pretty late.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
It is, it's it's life.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
It's pretty funny. Did you hear about the wig thief
who escaped prison? At least are combing the area to
find him. Oh yeah, see see this conspiracy theory holds
up today. It holds up what I didn't understand. They're
combing the area for the wig thief. A wig thief,
wig thief. I didn't care. It's pretty complex. It's a
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lot of moving parts, a lot of.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
All right. Number five, the man that invented throat lodginges
died last week. There was no coffin at his funeral.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
You got a couple of goes there.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I like the rainbow one, the duck quack thing was
not bad. The coffin one wasn't bad.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Okay, I had the vacuum cleaner was the peak?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, yeah you peaked. Everything else was down here? Okay,
So I clearly.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
It was a plot against me, I'm telling you all right.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Well, I mean I clearly had the better batch. So
I went right, Hey, coffin quacks and uh and what
what else? And ducks? No rainbows? Rainbows?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
If desiree Ye was an what what?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
What?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Like a James Bond villain spy was an evil villain?
What would her name be?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Ooh, I wonder what does does chat GPT know enough about?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I think it will. I think you'll know who Desiree is?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
So?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Uh what does it say? So I did it in
the wrong thing? Okay, you did the wrong check? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I did the wrong one. If Desiree was an evil villain, what.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Kind of villain would you be? You know?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
What would her name be? What would her name be? Okay,
here we go, let's see what it says.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Uh, despair way, despare ray instead of lady dreadoray, Desiree
the devourer that tongues.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
No, it's it's yeah, okay, we're just sticking with Desiree.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, all those were laying Desiree the conspirator. That's what
it is anyway.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Okay, well, hey, thanks Daz, and we're moving on to uh.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
They thank goodness, you're family moving on.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
You know what I think. I think when the people
heard us making fun of Desiree, they had an instinct
to protect her.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I think so too.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah, and you know we're talking about the Lord protecting
us today.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Oh good one, good transition. Yeah, we all were talking
about the protection of the Lord.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
The Lord will strengthen you and protect you. That's what
it says, even from the onslaught of the show hosts Desiree.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Okay. So we are in Second Thessalonians, chapter three today,
and the highlight is verse three. Yes, but I'm just
gonna read the whole chapter.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Oh there's a lot of highlights.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, I'm gonna read the whole chapter. It's only eighteen
verses and he covers a lot of stuff here. Finally,
dear brothers and sisters, we ask you to pray for us.
And when he says we and us, he's talking about
him and his travel companions, Paul. Pray that the Lord's
message will spread rapidly and be honored wherever it goes,
just as when it came to you. Pray too that
we will be rescued from wicked and evil people. For
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not everyone is a believer, but the Lord is faithful.
He will strengthen you and guard you from the evil one.
And we are confident in the Lord that you are
doing and will continue to do, the things we commanded you.
May the Lord lead your hearts into a full understanding
and expression of the love of God and the patient
endurance that comes from Christ. And now, dear brothers and sisters,
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we give you this command in the name of our Lord,
Jesus Christ. Stay away from all believers will live idle lives,
and don't follow the t eddition they received from us,
For you know that you ought to imitate us. We
were not idle when we were with you. We never
accepted food from anyone without paying for it. We worked
hard day and night so we would not be a
burden to any of you. We certainly had the right
to ask you to feed us, but we wanted to
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give you an example to follow. Even while we were
with you. We gave you this command. Those unwilling to
work will not eat. Yet we hear that same or
that some of you are living idle lives, refusing to
work and meddling in other people's business. We command such
people and urge them, in the name of the Lord
Jesus Christ, to settle down and work to earn their
own living. As for the rest of you, dear brothers
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and sisters, never get tired of doing good. Take note
of those who refuse to obey what we say in
this letter. Stay away from them so they will be ashamed.
Don't think of them as enemies, but warn them as
you would a brother or sister. Now, May the Lord
of Peace himself give you his peace at all times
and in every situation. The Lord be with you all.
Here is my greeting in my own handwriting, Paul, I
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do this in all my letters to prove they are
from me. May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ
be with you all.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
There you go there it is.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, well, Paul thinks you ought to get back to
work and give back to work and not the idol.
That's right.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah. I had to laugh when he said, uh, stay
away from evil people because not everybody's a believer, which
then implies that every believer is not wicked or evil. Right, yeah,
so that's that's really funny. But think about think about
the warning though that he is giving, because in his context,
those who aren't believers, they were plotting to capture and
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kill him. Oh sure, right, So he's not saying, like
a believer who maybe has malicious intentions of slandering reputations
or you know, all all the all the things that
maybe we deal with in America today where you're like, hey,
these Christians they say and do things. But that's not
what he's saying. He's saying, stay away from, you know,
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deliver us from the evil people who aren't believers because
they're after them. And didn't he actually have people who
pretended to be believers who tried to harm him?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Well, there were there were people who claimed to be
Christians that he had what Simon that wanted to buy,
wasn't it? Was it Paul where Simon wanted to buy
the Holy Spirit? Or was it Peter and John in
the Book of Acts? Remember, Yeah, yeah, that guy caused
him trouble. He complains about Alexander the copper smith who
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inside the church was still causing a lot of trouble.
He he He talks about how Demus left him and
you know, abandoned the enemy. Yeah. He has a lot
of sad stories of people that claimed to be Christians
or were around fringe, they were hanging around the Christians
that just caused a lot of trouble.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, so that's that's an interesting thing. But the main
verse is, but the Lord is faithful and he will
strengthen you and guard you from the evil one.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
So, and he's writing that too the Church of Thessalonica,
right so, so dear brothers and sisters. Finally, dear brothers
and sisters. That's right to the.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Christians there, He's right to Christians absolutely.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
So the promise then is that the Lord is faithful, right,
and he's going to guard you and strengthen you and
keep you from the evil one.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
So.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Uh So that promise then, even though it was given
to that church, is you know, you could probably build
a case and say that that is a general promise
because it's not for a circumstance for them, it is
a truth about who God is, right right, Yeah, And
so whenever whenever there's a promise coming from God, uh,
you know, you know, banking on who he is and
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his nature and his character. That holds true for today
because God is the same yesterday, today and forever. So
God's going to always, you know, bless us, keep us,
protect us, watch over us, and certainly guard us from
the evil one in our lives. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
So the whole context here is pray that the Lord's
message will spend rapidly and be honored wherever it goes.
And then he says, because it turns out, not everybody's
a believer, and not everybody likes it, That's what he's saying.
Not everybody likes that the Gospel is coming to their village.
He said, pray that it will be spreading everywhere, that
it'll be received well honored wherever it goes. But then
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he says, and then also there's times we're going to
be rescued because not everybody likes the fact that the
Gospel is showing up there. And that's okay, And it's
in that context, he says, but even though not everybody's
a believer, the Lord is faithful and he'll strengthen you
and guard you from the evil one. It's in the
context of sharing the gospel that he that this promise comes,
God will strengthen you and protect you from the evil one.
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He's not saying when you're going to the grocery store,
God's going to protect you and protect you from the evil.
You know, deliver you and protect you from the evil.
And that's not the context, you know, when you're out
there arguing politics, it doesn't say that God's going to
deliver you and protect you from the evil one. It's
in the context of pray that the gospel will spread
quickly and be well received, because not everybody likes to
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hear the gospel, right, And so then I'll protect you
in that way, so you know, and we're confident in
the Lord that you're you are doing and will continue
to do the things we commanded you, which is go
tell everybody which is honor or live right all.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
So let me play devil's advocate on this promise. So
what was the name? I know you know this already
because we had mentioned it literally, I think on HC
Daily this is how far back they go. But I
think I mentioned what's the name of the tribe where
the men go and then they're killed and the women
go back and then they lead the tribe to career.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
It was the Akka tribe and they were in Ecuador,
and yeah, in the fifties. According to anthropologists, they were
the most violent group of people that had ever been studied.
And they were basically an un reached people as far
as like nobody had actually been able to get into
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that village and teach them English or teach them how
to read or anything. They were just hunter gatherers in
the in the junk and they had a seventy five
or eighty percent homicide rate. The majority is like seventy
five or eighty percent of every person who died inside
the tribe was murdered. Wow, yeah, it's pretty crazy. So
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and so then it was Nate Saint and Jim Elliott
and all those guys and their families, all these young
couples from was it Wheaton isn't where they were from.
They went down and with a plane and started trying
to reach these people.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And finally, so where was this promise for them? There's
the Devil's advocate, right yeah, So so God to protect
you until he's.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Done with you, that's correct, right, yeah, Okay, And.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Maybe God's purpose for them was martyrdom, right, martyrdom to
make a lasting impact well beyond oh yeah, lifetime.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Man alive, you know. So for most people, they're so
terrified of death that they can't imagine anything worse. Most
people think, my own death is worse than the idea
of an entire trib going to hell for eternity. Right,
that's what most people think, most people, And it's and
this is why Paul so frustrated. He said, death, where's
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your sting? There's no sting. But for most people, the
devil has gotten us so afraid of the idea of dying.
We're really afraid more of the idea because we don't
know what it's gonna be, like, what about pain, what
about whatever? We're just afraid of that. That's what we're
afraid of. Whereas on occasion God will allow. John Fox
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wrote Fox's Book of Martyrs back in the Middle Ages
or something, maybe a little after Reader on the Reformation,
something like that. Anyways, he wrote that the blood of
the martyrs is the seed of the church. Is the phrase.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, that's a great sat phrase.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
So oftentimes those first people pushing in, like Stephen in
Jerusalem was martyred, then the church explodes, right, this happens
all throughout history that sometimes having something willing that you're
willing you'd rather die for than to give up on,
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is inspiring to all the other moderate and good people
in that group, go, I can't believe they're willing to
die for that, right, And that's what happened with Jim Elliott,
Nate Saint and all them, and then their wives went back.
A couple of them, Elizabeth Elliott and Nate Saint's wife
both went back and began sharing the gospel. And Nate
Saint's sister actually moved in with that tribe and wound
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up leading them all to Christ, almost all of them,
and they turned into a very aggressive evangelists, traveling all
throughout the jungle to all the other because they were
the fearsome warrior tribe and they would come in early on.
They would come in dressed as warriors into village and
then lay down their weapons, take off their their warrior garb,
and then say, Jesus changed us, and He'll change you too.
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That was their evangelism strategy. Did you know that?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
No? I? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's pretty cool. So min
Kai was the guy who killed Nate Saint and was
one who killed Jim Elliott, and later on he became
the leader of all the Christian preachers all throughout that
that part of Ecuador in the jungle. Wow, and so
a lot of time. So this promise, but the Lord
is faithful. Hey, that promise is always true. God is
always faithful. He will strengthen you. I believe he strengthened Nate.
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He strengthened Jim Elliott. Jim Elliott is the one. Before
they left, people were like, why would you go to
the auchatribe. They're the most dangerous people in the world.
And Jim Elliott said, he is no fool who is
willing to give what he cannot lose, or give what
he cannot keep, in order to gain what he cannot lose, right, right,
which is like, I can't I can't keep my life.
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I'm willing to give that in order to gain say
it again, he is no fool who is willing to
lose what he cannot keep in order to gain what
he cannot lose. It's great quote, right, great quest, and
the idea being, I'm willing to give my life if
that's all it takes, because the devil can never take
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away my martyr's crown. The devil can never take away
the opportunity leading these people to Jesus, right, and that's
what happened. So in this situation, then the Lord was
faithful even to Jim Elliot and Nate Saint and the
other three guests. And he did strengthen them, right, and
he did guard them from the evil one. It doesn't
say he guarded them from evil right, right, from the
evil one, right. And you know, so where Satan would
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love to just destroy them and keep them separated from
God for eternity, they you know, they had the strength
to face it. And there's worse things than dying, you know.
So anyways, that's that and I love it. So God
is faithful and he will strengthen you, and he will
guard you, and and those are all true. I believe
they're true. They're particularly true in the context of spreading
the gospel, right, and then you are invincible until God's done,
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and then that's gonna be okay, Right, That's gonna be okay.
But then I love it where he pivots and he's like, hey,
and I love Paul if you read any of his books.
So from from the Book of Romans on he gets
to the last chapter, and he's like, cramming a bunch
of stuff in at the end. Oh, and by the way,
don't forget this, And a lot of times it's stuff
that's not doesn't have anything to do with the whole
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rest of the book. And here he pivots and he goes, hey,
by the way, keep back to work. What are you
people doing? Why are you being so lazy? Right? And
he's like, oh, I forgot I got to address that.
They got a bunch of bums over there in thessal Andika,
and you guys need to quit quit just looking for
handouts and being lazy. And you know, he says, those
unwilling to work won't get to eat.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah, he's stay away from those who are believers who
live idle lives.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, stay away from him.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yeah, and he says, he goes, just you know, you
should imitate us. He goes, we worked hard, Yeah, and
we we actually worked hard to be an example for you, right,
follow me as I follow.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Christ right right?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah. And by the way, that's a that's a great
sermon hidden right in there by itself, isn't that? So
you know, if we're leading somebody, because we always say
everybody leads somebody. Right, So whether you're leading your kids
or leading at work, and you have influence pretty much
wherever you go and your friendships and anything else. It's
always imitate me, is imitate Christ. And I heard a
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speaker one time he titled a series the Life that
leads to Why?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Have you ever mentioned at you?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah? The life that leads to why? Where you know,
obviously we need to be bold in our faith and
we need to tell people plainly about the gospel, but
we should also live our lives in such a way
to where people just observe it from afar and then
they just eventually ask us, like, why is it that
you didn't get angry in that situation? Why is it
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that you didn't you know, do this or do that?
Or how can you forgive? And what's going on? You know?
And people ask us, And so it's the life that
leads to why, which is then again, is a perfect
opportunity for us then give the gospel.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
It was interesting there were a number of early American preachers.
I can remember. I used to have a book it
may still be in my office from the eighteen hundreds,
and one of the preachers there is referencing the fact
that the old preachers, so this book is from the
eighteen hundred. In the message, he's referencing the fact that
the old American preachers used to talk, used to use
this passage all the time to remind people God blesses
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hard work, right, And that was kind of at the
core of the founding of America. One of those things
that the early American work ethic kind of thing, right,
sure was a big issue, and they would base it.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
On this something that we've somehow lost a little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Well, it's because we'd rather live in mom and dad's.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Basement, yeah, and make money through TikTok.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. We don't want to work. So
this working thing is a big deal. And I think that,
you know, God blesses work, and then I love it.
You know, he says if they don't work, they shouldn't eat.
And I've told this before, but I came into a
village and it was the whole village was fighting. And
it turns out that the women had just heard in
church if a man doesn't work, he doesn't eat, And
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so all the women and children were mad at all
the men because the men just watched their cows and
drink and provide security. And so the men after all
the women were threatened to beat them up, and you're
not allowed to come home anymore. It's the whole village
of women against the whole village of men. And I
get a chair and I'm sitting in front of my
truck and I got my translator. I'm like, tell me
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what was going on? He said, I don't want to get involved.
I said, I time, I want to get involved. I
just haven't seen the TV in like ten days. Tell
me what's Here's a drama? Unveilab It's a village wide
domestic dispute.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
They're yelling and throwing bricks and it was crazy. So
the men leave and they go out in the bush
and then they come back, and I promise you they
lock arms. There's probably you know, they have multiple wives
out in the bushes in that area. So there's probably
forty or fifty women, and probably another fifty or sixty
children and young people, and then there's maybe fifteen or
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twenty men. Rightly Christmas and the men are locked arms
and the chief steps up and he says, you know,
we thought about it. We've talked about it for the
last hour out in the bush, and we feel like
you're right. The Bible does say if we don't work,
we don't eat. So here's what we're going to promise you.
We're going to do a better job watching the cows
and providing security. Basically, they're saying, we're not changing anything.
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The women haull the water, they carry, the chop the wood,
they start the fires, they cook the food, they build
the houses, they raise the kids, they do everything. The
women are like and you don't do anything except watch
the cows and provide security. And so they you know what,
you're right, we're going to do a better job watching
the cows on a better job or right security.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
And so if you're listening and you and you live
in especially in the United States of America, be grateful. Oh,
because that's a horrible culture.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It's terrible. It was terrible. So did you know Pastor
Job in Kenya. He's in heaven now. But Pastor Job said, well,
I've got some work to do. We got to teach
these men how to treat their families right. And yeah,
that was a big part of his ministry until he died,
was trying to teach these guys that because In their culture,
women and children were property right, and so so as
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they became Christians, God began changing their life. And so
the women weren't arguing over we think you should work harder.
That women were saying the Bible says it right right,
which puts so much more authority, which then opened up
the opportunity. Pastor Job was actually the one who came
and began brokering peace between the families, put everything back together,
and then he began teaching them, hey, you treat them
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with with love, you treat them with you know, delicately
is as Peter says, and all these things, and cooperate
with them, help them. It was really amazing. But it
was all built around this verse. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
So all right, well we're not talking about a hundredyears ago,
you talking about like this.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah, this was a decade ago.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Okay, yeah, which is pretty recent. So okay, well, hey
you have you've heard it right here, So get to work,
get to work, get to work, no idle hands.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
So that's a great passage and hopefully we will see
you for another one tomorrow. On the Bible, guys,
You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a
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Speaker 1 (00:46):
So we are in middle of a series called God's
Promises and we're thinking about or we're not thinking. We
are going through contemplating. No, no, I mean we're not contemplating.
I mean we're discussing, discussing different promises, one for each week.
They're themed and they're different context for the same promise.
That's right, right, So we're talking this week about God's protection.
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But before we do that, we have our classic dad
joke competition. Ooh classic, it is classic. Okay, so we're
gonna just read all five. Each will take turns and
then decide who has the better batch of jokes.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Okay, all right, have you looked at yours yet?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I did not look at mine either. So here it goes.
Are you ready? Let me do it first? Okay? I
get number one. I had to return the vacuum cleaner.
It sucked.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Oh that was That was pretty good because it was straight,
straight forward.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah yeah, yeah, just right on the nose, right on
the nose.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
There's a shock value to that one.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, okay, I like it good.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Okay, number number one for me. Why can't your nose
be twelve inches long?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I don't know, because then it would be a foot okay, clever? Yeah, okay,
all right, what's an astronaut's favorite chocolate Mars bar? That's
a rough one.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, that's pretty rough?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
All right?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Okay. Why don't eggs tell jokes?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I don't know, they crack each other up? Oh no,
is this the way today's going?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I think?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Oh boy, I think we're going downhill? Do you think?
By the way, so you know you're a little bit
of a conspiracy theorist. You'll go down the rabbit hole.
Sure do you think does gives us bad dad jokes
on Monday just to make Monday worse?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Do you think what that is a theory?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Do you think that's what she's doing?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
That is a theory? Right?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Because I mean there's times we laugh, we laughed so hard, yes,
and then you know Monday ones. You know what I think, really, mars.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Bar, I think we may be giving her too much credit.
I'm not sure she does.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
She's sitting right over there. I know she's like some
evil you know, I don't know, sitting in her lair.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
She's plotting against us, sitting with bad dad jokes. Okay, anyway, sorry, sorry,
does we didn't mean to go ahead? Number three my
wife rearranged the labels on my spice rack. I haven't
confronted her yet, but the time is cuman.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Oh that was worse than.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
All of them.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Okay, this one's not horrible. Okay, what do you get
when you put a duck in a cement mixer? I
don't know, quacks in the pavement, So this is not good.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
But the concept of a duck in this sent Max
for funny Man. Yeahs, I'm so close to becoming a billionaire.
I have all the zeros now I just need a one.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
There you go. Okay, that's good, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, I got all the zeros. Yeah, nine zeros.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Baby, all right, here we go, ready, now this one.
See they progressively get better. I like this one.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Scientists recently managed to weigh a rainbow. Turns out it
was pretty light.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Pretty light. Yeah, he's pretty like, you get it. It's
pretty it's pretty late.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
It is, it's it's life.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
It's pretty funny. Did you hear about the wig thief
who escaped prison? At least are combing the area to
find him. Oh yeah, see see this conspiracy theory holds
up today. It holds up what I didn't understand. They're
combing the area for the wig thief. A wig thief,
wig thief. I didn't care. It's pretty complex. It's a
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lot of moving parts, a lot of.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
All right. Number five, the man that invented throat lodginges
died last week. There was no coffin at his funeral.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
You got a couple of goes there.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I like the rainbow one, the duck quack thing was
not bad. The coffin one wasn't bad.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Okay, I had the vacuum cleaner was the peak?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, yeah you peaked. Everything else was down here? Okay,
So I clearly.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
It was a plot against me, I'm telling you all right.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Well, I mean I clearly had the better batch. So
I went right, Hey, coffin quacks and uh and what
what else? And ducks? No rainbows? Rainbows?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
If desiree Ye was an what what?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
What?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Like a James Bond villain spy was an evil villain?
What would her name be?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Ooh, I wonder what does does chat GPT know enough about?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I think it will. I think you'll know who Desiree is?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
So?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Uh what does it say? So I did it in
the wrong thing? Okay, you did the wrong check? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I did the wrong one. If Desiree was an evil villain, what.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Kind of villain would you be? You know?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
What would her name be? What would her name be? Okay,
here we go, let's see what it says.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Uh, despair way, despare ray instead of lady dreadoray, Desiree
the devourer that tongues.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
No, it's it's yeah, okay, we're just sticking with Desiree.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, all those were laying Desiree the conspirator. That's what
it is anyway.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Okay, well, hey, thanks Daz, and we're moving on to uh.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
They thank goodness, you're family moving on.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
You know what I think. I think when the people
heard us making fun of Desiree, they had an instinct
to protect her.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I think so too.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah, and you know we're talking about the Lord protecting
us today.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Oh good one, good transition. Yeah, we all were talking
about the protection of the Lord.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
The Lord will strengthen you and protect you. That's what
it says, even from the onslaught of the show hosts Desiree.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Okay. So we are in Second Thessalonians, chapter three today,
and the highlight is verse three. Yes, but I'm just
gonna read the whole chapter.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Oh there's a lot of highlights.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, I'm gonna read the whole chapter. It's only eighteen
verses and he covers a lot of stuff here. Finally,
dear brothers and sisters, we ask you to pray for us.
And when he says we and us, he's talking about
him and his travel companions, Paul. Pray that the Lord's
message will spread rapidly and be honored wherever it goes,
just as when it came to you. Pray too that
we will be rescued from wicked and evil people. For
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not everyone is a believer, but the Lord is faithful.
He will strengthen you and guard you from the evil one.
And we are confident in the Lord that you are
doing and will continue to do, the things we commanded you.
May the Lord lead your hearts into a full understanding
and expression of the love of God and the patient
endurance that comes from Christ. And now, dear brothers and sisters,
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we give you this command in the name of our Lord,
Jesus Christ. Stay away from all believers will live idle lives,
and don't follow the t eddition they received from us,
For you know that you ought to imitate us. We
were not idle when we were with you. We never
accepted food from anyone without paying for it. We worked
hard day and night so we would not be a
burden to any of you. We certainly had the right
to ask you to feed us, but we wanted to
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give you an example to follow. Even while we were
with you. We gave you this command. Those unwilling to
work will not eat. Yet we hear that same or
that some of you are living idle lives, refusing to
work and meddling in other people's business. We command such
people and urge them, in the name of the Lord
Jesus Christ, to settle down and work to earn their
own living. As for the rest of you, dear brothers
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and sisters, never get tired of doing good. Take note
of those who refuse to obey what we say in
this letter. Stay away from them so they will be ashamed.
Don't think of them as enemies, but warn them as
you would a brother or sister. Now, May the Lord
of Peace himself give you his peace at all times
and in every situation. The Lord be with you all.
Here is my greeting in my own handwriting, Paul, I
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do this in all my letters to prove they are
from me. May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ
be with you all.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
There you go there it is.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, well, Paul thinks you ought to get back to
work and give back to work and not the idol.
That's right.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah. I had to laugh when he said, uh, stay
away from evil people because not everybody's a believer, which
then implies that every believer is not wicked or evil. Right, yeah,
so that's that's really funny. But think about think about
the warning though that he is giving, because in his context,
those who aren't believers, they were plotting to capture and
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kill him. Oh sure, right, So he's not saying, like
a believer who maybe has malicious intentions of slandering reputations
or you know, all all the all the things that
maybe we deal with in America today where you're like, hey,
these Christians they say and do things. But that's not
what he's saying. He's saying, stay away from, you know,
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deliver us from the evil people who aren't believers because
they're after them. And didn't he actually have people who
pretended to be believers who tried to harm him?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Well, there were there were people who claimed to be
Christians that he had what Simon that wanted to buy,
wasn't it? Was it Paul where Simon wanted to buy
the Holy Spirit? Or was it Peter and John in
the Book of Acts? Remember, Yeah, yeah, that guy caused
him trouble. He complains about Alexander the copper smith who
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inside the church was still causing a lot of trouble.
He he He talks about how Demus left him and
you know, abandoned the enemy. Yeah. He has a lot
of sad stories of people that claimed to be Christians
or were around fringe, they were hanging around the Christians
that just caused a lot of trouble.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, so that's that's an interesting thing. But the main
verse is, but the Lord is faithful and he will
strengthen you and guard you from the evil one.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
So, and he's writing that too the Church of Thessalonica,
right so, so dear brothers and sisters. Finally, dear brothers
and sisters. That's right to the.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Christians there, He's right to Christians absolutely.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
So the promise then is that the Lord is faithful, right,
and he's going to guard you and strengthen you and
keep you from the evil one.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
So.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Uh So that promise then, even though it was given
to that church, is you know, you could probably build
a case and say that that is a general promise
because it's not for a circumstance for them, it is
a truth about who God is, right right, Yeah, And
so whenever whenever there's a promise coming from God, uh,
you know, you know, banking on who he is and
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his nature and his character. That holds true for today
because God is the same yesterday, today and forever. So
God's going to always, you know, bless us, keep us,
protect us, watch over us, and certainly guard us from
the evil one in our lives. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
So the whole context here is pray that the Lord's
message will spend rapidly and be honored wherever it goes.
And then he says, because it turns out, not everybody's
a believer, and not everybody likes it, That's what he's saying.
Not everybody likes that the Gospel is coming to their village.
He said, pray that it will be spreading everywhere, that
it'll be received well honored wherever it goes. But then
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he says, and then also there's times we're going to
be rescued because not everybody likes the fact that the
Gospel is showing up there. And that's okay, And it's
in that context, he says, but even though not everybody's
a believer, the Lord is faithful and he'll strengthen you
and guard you from the evil one. It's in the
context of sharing the gospel that he that this promise comes,
God will strengthen you and protect you from the evil one.
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He's not saying when you're going to the grocery store,
God's going to protect you and protect you from the evil.
You know, deliver you and protect you from the evil.
And that's not the context, you know, when you're out
there arguing politics, it doesn't say that God's going to
deliver you and protect you from the evil one. It's
in the context of pray that the gospel will spread
quickly and be well received, because not everybody likes to
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hear the gospel, right, And so then I'll protect you
in that way, so you know, and we're confident in
the Lord that you're you are doing and will continue
to do the things we commanded you, which is go
tell everybody which is honor or live right all.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
So let me play devil's advocate on this promise. So
what was the name? I know you know this already
because we had mentioned it literally, I think on HC
Daily this is how far back they go. But I
think I mentioned what's the name of the tribe where
the men go and then they're killed and the women
go back and then they lead the tribe to career.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
It was the Akka tribe and they were in Ecuador,
and yeah, in the fifties. According to anthropologists, they were
the most violent group of people that had ever been studied.
And they were basically an un reached people as far
as like nobody had actually been able to get into
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that village and teach them English or teach them how
to read or anything. They were just hunter gatherers in
the in the junk and they had a seventy five
or eighty percent homicide rate. The majority is like seventy
five or eighty percent of every person who died inside
the tribe was murdered. Wow, yeah, it's pretty crazy. So
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and so then it was Nate Saint and Jim Elliott
and all those guys and their families, all these young
couples from was it Wheaton isn't where they were from.
They went down and with a plane and started trying
to reach these people.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And finally, so where was this promise for them? There's
the Devil's advocate, right yeah, So so God to protect
you until he's.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Done with you, that's correct, right, yeah, Okay, And.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Maybe God's purpose for them was martyrdom, right, martyrdom to
make a lasting impact well beyond oh yeah, lifetime.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Man alive, you know. So for most people, they're so
terrified of death that they can't imagine anything worse. Most
people think, my own death is worse than the idea
of an entire trib going to hell for eternity. Right,
that's what most people think, most people, And it's and
this is why Paul so frustrated. He said, death, where's
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your sting? There's no sting. But for most people, the
devil has gotten us so afraid of the idea of dying.
We're really afraid more of the idea because we don't
know what it's gonna be, like, what about pain, what
about whatever? We're just afraid of that. That's what we're
afraid of. Whereas on occasion God will allow. John Fox
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wrote Fox's Book of Martyrs back in the Middle Ages
or something, maybe a little after Reader on the Reformation,
something like that. Anyways, he wrote that the blood of
the martyrs is the seed of the church. Is the phrase.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, that's a great sat phrase.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
So oftentimes those first people pushing in, like Stephen in
Jerusalem was martyred, then the church explodes, right, this happens
all throughout history that sometimes having something willing that you're
willing you'd rather die for than to give up on,
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is inspiring to all the other moderate and good people
in that group, go, I can't believe they're willing to
die for that, right, And that's what happened with Jim Elliott,
Nate Saint and all them, and then their wives went back.
A couple of them, Elizabeth Elliott and Nate Saint's wife
both went back and began sharing the gospel. And Nate
Saint's sister actually moved in with that tribe and wound
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up leading them all to Christ, almost all of them,
and they turned into a very aggressive evangelists, traveling all
throughout the jungle to all the other because they were
the fearsome warrior tribe and they would come in early on.
They would come in dressed as warriors into village and
then lay down their weapons, take off their their warrior garb,
and then say, Jesus changed us, and He'll change you too.
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That was their evangelism strategy. Did you know that?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
No? I? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's pretty cool. So min
Kai was the guy who killed Nate Saint and was
one who killed Jim Elliott, and later on he became
the leader of all the Christian preachers all throughout that
that part of Ecuador in the jungle. Wow, and so
a lot of time. So this promise, but the Lord
is faithful. Hey, that promise is always true. God is
always faithful. He will strengthen you. I believe he strengthened Nate.
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He strengthened Jim Elliott. Jim Elliott is the one. Before
they left, people were like, why would you go to
the auchatribe. They're the most dangerous people in the world.
And Jim Elliott said, he is no fool who is
willing to give what he cannot lose, or give what
he cannot keep, in order to gain what he cannot lose, right, right,
which is like, I can't I can't keep my life.
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I'm willing to give that in order to gain say
it again, he is no fool who is willing to
lose what he cannot keep in order to gain what
he cannot lose. It's great quote, right, great quest, and
the idea being, I'm willing to give my life if
that's all it takes, because the devil can never take
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away my martyr's crown. The devil can never take away
the opportunity leading these people to Jesus, right, and that's
what happened. So in this situation, then the Lord was
faithful even to Jim Elliot and Nate Saint and the
other three guests. And he did strengthen them, right, and
he did guard them from the evil one. It doesn't
say he guarded them from evil right, right, from the
evil one, right. And you know, so where Satan would
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love to just destroy them and keep them separated from
God for eternity, they you know, they had the strength
to face it. And there's worse things than dying, you know.
So anyways, that's that and I love it. So God
is faithful and he will strengthen you, and he will
guard you, and and those are all true. I believe
they're true. They're particularly true in the context of spreading
the gospel, right, and then you are invincible until God's done,
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and then that's gonna be okay, Right, That's gonna be okay.
But then I love it where he pivots and he's like, hey,
and I love Paul if you read any of his books.
So from from the Book of Romans on he gets
to the last chapter, and he's like, cramming a bunch
of stuff in at the end. Oh, and by the way,
don't forget this, And a lot of times it's stuff
that's not doesn't have anything to do with the whole
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rest of the book. And here he pivots and he goes, hey,
by the way, keep back to work. What are you
people doing? Why are you being so lazy? Right? And
he's like, oh, I forgot I got to address that.
They got a bunch of bums over there in thessal Andika,
and you guys need to quit quit just looking for
handouts and being lazy. And you know, he says, those
unwilling to work won't get to eat.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah, he's stay away from those who are believers who
live idle lives.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, stay away from him.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yeah, and he says, he goes, just you know, you
should imitate us. He goes, we worked hard, Yeah, and
we we actually worked hard to be an example for you, right,
follow me as I follow.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Christ right right?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah. And by the way, that's a that's a great
sermon hidden right in there by itself, isn't that? So
you know, if we're leading somebody, because we always say
everybody leads somebody. Right, So whether you're leading your kids
or leading at work, and you have influence pretty much
wherever you go and your friendships and anything else. It's
always imitate me, is imitate Christ. And I heard a
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speaker one time he titled a series the Life that
leads to Why?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Have you ever mentioned at you?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah? The life that leads to why? Where you know,
obviously we need to be bold in our faith and
we need to tell people plainly about the gospel, but
we should also live our lives in such a way
to where people just observe it from afar and then
they just eventually ask us, like, why is it that
you didn't get angry in that situation? Why is it
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that you didn't you know, do this or do that?
Or how can you forgive? And what's going on? You know?
And people ask us, And so it's the life that
leads to why, which is then again, is a perfect
opportunity for us then give the gospel.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
It was interesting there were a number of early American preachers.
I can remember. I used to have a book it
may still be in my office from the eighteen hundreds,
and one of the preachers there is referencing the fact
that the old preachers, so this book is from the
eighteen hundred. In the message, he's referencing the fact that
the old American preachers used to talk, used to use
this passage all the time to remind people God blesses
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hard work, right, And that was kind of at the
core of the founding of America. One of those things
that the early American work ethic kind of thing, right,
sure was a big issue, and they would base it.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
On this something that we've somehow lost a little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Well, it's because we'd rather live in mom and dad's.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Basement, yeah, and make money through TikTok.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. We don't want to work. So
this working thing is a big deal. And I think that,
you know, God blesses work, and then I love it.
You know, he says if they don't work, they shouldn't eat.
And I've told this before, but I came into a
village and it was the whole village was fighting. And
it turns out that the women had just heard in
church if a man doesn't work, he doesn't eat, And
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so all the women and children were mad at all
the men because the men just watched their cows and
drink and provide security. And so the men after all
the women were threatened to beat them up, and you're
not allowed to come home anymore. It's the whole village
of women against the whole village of men. And I
get a chair and I'm sitting in front of my
truck and I got my translator. I'm like, tell me
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what was going on? He said, I don't want to get involved.
I said, I time, I want to get involved. I
just haven't seen the TV in like ten days. Tell
me what's Here's a drama? Unveilab It's a village wide
domestic dispute.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
They're yelling and throwing bricks and it was crazy. So
the men leave and they go out in the bush
and then they come back, and I promise you they
lock arms. There's probably you know, they have multiple wives
out in the bushes in that area. So there's probably
forty or fifty women, and probably another fifty or sixty
children and young people, and then there's maybe fifteen or
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twenty men. Rightly Christmas and the men are locked arms
and the chief steps up and he says, you know,
we thought about it. We've talked about it for the
last hour out in the bush, and we feel like
you're right. The Bible does say if we don't work,
we don't eat. So here's what we're going to promise you.
We're going to do a better job watching the cows
and providing security. Basically, they're saying, we're not changing anything.
(23:06):
The women haull the water, they carry, the chop the wood,
they start the fires, they cook the food, they build
the houses, they raise the kids, they do everything. The
women are like and you don't do anything except watch
the cows and provide security. And so they you know what,
you're right, we're going to do a better job watching
the cows on a better job or right security.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
And so if you're listening and you and you live
in especially in the United States of America, be grateful. Oh,
because that's a horrible culture.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It's terrible. It was terrible. So did you know Pastor
Job in Kenya. He's in heaven now. But Pastor Job said, well,
I've got some work to do. We got to teach
these men how to treat their families right. And yeah,
that was a big part of his ministry until he died,
was trying to teach these guys that because In their culture,
women and children were property right, and so so as
(23:54):
they became Christians, God began changing their life. And so
the women weren't arguing over we think you should work harder.
That women were saying the Bible says it right right,
which puts so much more authority, which then opened up
the opportunity. Pastor Job was actually the one who came
and began brokering peace between the families, put everything back together,
and then he began teaching them, hey, you treat them
(24:14):
with with love, you treat them with you know, delicately
is as Peter says, and all these things, and cooperate
with them, help them. It was really amazing. But it
was all built around this verse. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
So all right, well we're not talking about a hundredyears ago,
you talking about like this.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah, this was a decade ago.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Okay, yeah, which is pretty recent. So okay, well, hey
you have you've heard it right here, So get to work,
get to work, get to work, no idle hands.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
So that's a great passage and hopefully we will see
you for another one tomorrow. On the Bible, guys,
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