December 3, 2025 • 25 mins
Episode 828:
In this episode, we delve into a conversation about God's promises of forgiveness and mercy, as highlighted in Isaiah chapter 1. We explore the powerful imagery of sin being scarlet and the promise that it can be made as white as snow. Chris reads a passage that emphasizes God's disdain for empty rituals and meaningless offerings, urging listeners to reflect on the sincerity of their worship and actions. We discuss how God desires genuine transformation in our hearts rather than mere adherence to religious practices.
In this episode, we delve into a conversation about God's promises of forgiveness and mercy, as highlighted in Isaiah chapter 1. We explore the powerful imagery of sin being scarlet and the promise that it can be made as white as snow. Chris reads a passage that emphasizes God's disdain for empty rituals and meaningless offerings, urging listeners to reflect on the sincerity of their worship and actions. We discuss how God desires genuine transformation in our hearts rather than mere adherence to religious practices.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a
couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in
practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible Guys.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Chris. Today, I just want to do the very best
we can do, you know what, go after it today.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I was gonna shoot for mediocrity, but I'm with you, Jeff.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
With me.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I'm gonna elevate my game.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Okay, we're gonna give it all we got today.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yes, and today we're actually gonna launch directly into one
of my favorite segments that never gets old for me.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Okay me either. I like these ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're gonna do who's most likely?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Who's most likely? So all we have to do is
just just immediately say is it me or you?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
And we'll see if we Okay, you go first, you
go first. I'm going to just defer to you this week,
oh this whole week, the week who's most likely to
get scammed by a very polite scammer? Ooh, what's telling me?
Is it? I think? So?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
How come?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Because I always overpay in the markets whenever you have
to negoti not always, but a lot of times. Okay, yeah,
how about you.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
But is that is that different than a scammer?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Though they're scamming me. It's worth ten cents and I'd
pay three dollars for it. It's kind of a scam. Okay,
all right, what are you thinking? Like a phone scammer
or like a like an email.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Stammer and email and phones?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Oh yeah yeah, I never give into those.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah yeah, me neither. Yeah, but but you're right, there
are different scams, right right, So yeah, okay, let's go
with that.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Didn't you get your didn't you get your your passport stolen?
I did?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I did? That was definitely a scam.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
That was a scam.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, but I didn't get scammed in conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
No, but the applied scammer. Those guys were faking like
they were drunk and fell on you.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Right, yes, okay, what a terrible memory.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Who's most likely to try a new hobby and become
unreasonably obsessed within twenty four hours?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Hey, well you're at it, Why don't you give me
a paper cut?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
And port Lemons said, so, who's most likely to try
a new hobby and become unreasonably obsessed within twenty four hours?
That that is me?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, that is you.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I am an enthusiast and through Yes, I find a
new thing, I get super excited about it.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, I don't think I've ever done that. Yeah, yeah,
I don't think that I've found something new and thought, oh,
I can't stop doing this.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I love new things. I love doing a new thing
that I've never done before. I'd love discovering new things,
dumb stuff too, right, And then it's funny. I'll go
for a long time and not do a thing and
then rediscover it, and then that's all I do for
a while too. So even like old things, I don't
just keep like I have friends who do, like they
have the same rhythm all week every week. They just
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kind of do, oh, it's Thursday, Taco Tuesday, right kind
of people. And I'm just not that person. I don't
have that almost perpetual rhythm of most things. But when
I'm doing a thing, I do all that thing. Like
when it's hunting season, I'm just thinking about hunting. I
just want to hunt. During the summer, I just want
to grill. I just want to grill right right now,
(02:53):
I'm a little obsessed about grinning. I just got a
new rotisserie for my smoker. I'm super excited about all
I think about. So I've probably watched I'm not lying.
I bought the rotisserie yesterday and we're shooting this right
before Thanksgiving. So I'm gonna rotissery my turkey. And I've
watched probably twelve to fifteen videos on row tissry, and
(03:19):
I've rote tissering using rotisserie to do turkey, and then
I've watched probably ten more on smoking turkeys. And then
I've probably read forty recipes.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Holy Christmas.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, getting ready for my turkey. Wow, super excited. And
I bought my rotisserie yesterday. I decided I want to
buy rotisserie three days ago.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Well you know what I did to prepare for my
Thanksgiving meal?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I ask your wife, when does this start?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I gave Liz money, and I'm gonna ask her, Ey,
when's dinner.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah. So that's me though, But I get really, I'm
a real enthusiast. When I find a new thing, I
just want to do it and do it, and then
I do it till I master it, and then a
lot of times I'm done with it.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Wow. Yeah, that's that's pretty amazing. Which, by the way,
Liz is a very good cook.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yes, she is. She is very so. My my brother
passed away, is why why I wasn't on the podcast
last week. My brother passed away. So, uh, Liz always
rushes to those emergency moments in people's lives, right, So
she came with and dropped off some homemade wedding soup
with the meatballs in it. Oh my gosh, I just
(04:27):
I was. I wanted to fight my family, keep them back. Yeah,
and then just tit the whole because she brought in
a great, big pot like this, and I just want
to drink the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, she's listening to you right now.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Oh Liz. It was incredible. It was like a big hug,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, that's awesome all right. Way, who's most likely to
fall asleep during a movie? They picked me. I don't know.
I could ravel you in this.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Do you do sleep in movies?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
It depends on the time of the day, but I
would say anything after seven pm, I'm.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Out really okay?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, and I'm talking like, listen, you remember how I
remember in the height of Marvel, how excited I must
have been for Civil War.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yes, I was in Civil.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
War because I want to go see nine o'clock movie.
And I fell asleep. That's the last like thirty minutes.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I don't fall asleep in movie theaters, but I do
fall asleep at home. Yeah. Yeah. So my my daughter
and her boyfriend went to a movie just a couple
of days ago. Yeah, and she came back in talking
about the movie, and she says, and guess who fell
asleep before the movie started. Oh no, he fell asleep
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during the credits and never woke up for the whole movie.
She knows two times. I'm like, that was an expensive,
expensive nap. He just laughed. Yeah, no, kids, Well that's
what happens when men work, because he's a hard worker man, right,
and that's all that happened.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, okay, I think I'm gonna have to trump you
on that because you don't You don't realize how bad
I am.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, okay, So you fall asleep after seven? You fall
asleep on movies? Yep? Okay, Well you know so many
movie quotes. That must mean you watch a lot of
movies before seven.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
That's correct.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, okay, that's correct. So who's most likely to wave
at someone who wasn't waving at them?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
This a lot?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I do it too, do you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Do you do it.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Let's say both of us.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Do you do it while you're driving?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
No?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I wave at everybody when I'm driving, somebody walking down
the street. Way what it's what we did as a
kid growing up. Everybody in the pier did that all the.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Fun on my bike?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
No? No, no, no, I'm talking all the drivers. You're driving
down the road, you got your hand on your steering wheel,
you make our contact and you just wave. You don't
do that?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
No?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Oh yeah, I wave at people in my neighborhood. No, no,
somebody on my I don't know anybody. I don't know
those people. They're No, I'm talking in the whole subdivision,
anywhere I'm at. If I'm just on the street, somebody
walking on the street, I wave.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
In I do. Do people ever initiate waving as they're
behind the wheel for you.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
No, not very often, except up where I hunt.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
You're the only one up up.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Where I hunt. If you're driving down you know, driving
down dirt roads too, pickup trucks coming by, yeah, you
guys will nod and wave.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that that's common. And then also like motorcyclists,
they wave at each other. People would jeeps they're in
a club.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, well, they're not doing it because we're driving pickup
trucks to doing it because we're on the same road.
I know, and we're acknowledging each other.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, yeah, I know. But I was also thinking of clubs.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I also think dangerous men do that. They wave, right,
because waving was always letting you know, I don't have
a weapon in my hand. That's where waving came from.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
You know that, right, No, is this one of these
facts that you know that sounds untrue.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
No, it's true, though, it's true. So waving is I
don't have a weapon in my hand. Shaking hands was
always we're making peace with no weapon in our hand.
Both of those things were, ok.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
But they don't mean that.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Now what do they mean now? It means, hey, I'm
a peaceful person, and so are you. That's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Okay, but nobody thinks that. Nobody thinks I'm not a
violent person.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Therefore it's why I'm waving. I'm not going to hurt you.
That is not I can imagine most people are afraid
I'm probably gonna hurt No people.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
People wave now because they want to be friendly, Okay,
I want to be nice.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, I was making a joke too. That's what I'm
trying to be in friendly. Okay, we should get the
last round.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I was like, there's no way we.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Should get the get the last one.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Who's most likely to hold the door open for someone
who's way too far away?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
That's the worst. Yeah, especially when they slowed down.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, yeah, you hold.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
The door and then somebody goes, oh, where's my keys?
Oh oh oh I got Oh nope, no, So.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I actually forced myself not to open the door for
people who are far away. And I have to tell myself, hey,
I'm off the hook. Like there's like two elderly women
coming into the restaurant right behind me, ladies. But I'm like, well,
here's the thing. I want to stick around. But I'm
thinking like they would almost feel bad. They'd be like,
oh my goodness, you don't have to. I'm gonna create
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like more of a commotion just by sticking around. So
I'm like, you know what, I'm just going to slip
in let the door close. I'm not obligated. It's actually
better for them and for me.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
How far how far away it's too far?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I would say at least fifteen.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yards fifteen yards forty five feet. Yes, okay, yeah, that's
a long way. That's halfway across the park.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, I would say, if somebody is behind me within
like thirty steps, I'll hold them.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Well, those tool ladies like that. What I would do
is step outside the door and wait outside for.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Them, so I could open the door for them, even
in the winter.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, I've done that a lot. Yeah, but I wouldn't
hold the door open for them because that makes everybody
inside cold.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I see see you just stand there. Yeah, yeah, that's right,
wait till they come over, and then open it up
for them. Good for you, Good for you. It's it's
so good.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yes, well, a noble beast.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I'll tell you what. That was a fun segment because
we had to pick either me or you. Yes, but
Isaiah picks God.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Ooh there you go. Yeah wow. He doesn't have to
pick the transition.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
He only picks one person God.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah. So in this uh pat this whole week, we're
talking about God's promises with regard to his forgive and
his mercy. Yes, and here today in Isaiah chapter one,
it's all about how even though our sins are scarlet,
they'll be as white as snow. So I'm just going
to pick up in verse eleven this whole chapter. There's
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a lot of judgment in this chapter. God's kind of mad,
and the prophet is letting them know it. But it
says here in verse eleven, what makes you think I
want all your sacrifices, says the Lord. I'm sick of
your burnt offerings of rams and the fat of fat
and cattle. I get no pleasure from the blood of
bulls and lambs and goats. When you come to worship
me who asked you to pray through my courts with
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all your ceremony, Stop bringing me your meaningless gifts. The
incense of your offerings disgusts me. As for your celebrations
of the New Moon and the Sabbath, and all your
special days for fasting, They're all sinful and false. I
want no more of your pious meetings. I hate your
New Moon celebrations and your annual festivals. They're a burden
to me. I cannot stand them. When you lift up
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your hands in prayer, I will not look. Though you
offer many prayers, I will not listen, for your hands
are covered with the blood of innocent victims. Wash yourselves
and be clean. Get your sins out of my sight.
Give up your evil ways, learn to do good, seek justice,
help the oppressed, defend the cause of orphans, fight for
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the rights of widows. Come now, let's settle this, says
the Lord. Though your sins are like scarlet, I will
make them as white as snow. Though they are red
like crimson, I will make them as white as wool.
If you will only obey me, you'll have plenty to eat.
But if you turn away and refuse to listen, you'll
be devoured by the sword of your enemies. I the
Lord have spoken. I wish he was like really clear
(11:38):
and said what he was thinking.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, yeah, there's no mission jpreting that.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I wonder what he meant there. As matter of fact,
I don't even know that we even have to talk
about this one.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Right, okay, all right, everybody, thanks for tuning in. We'll
see tomorrow on the bibble.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Guys, quit faking it, Yeah right, just get right, learn
to do good, seek justice, help the oppressed, defend the
cause of orphans, fight for the rights of widows. Confess
your sin, right, and then he says, and obey me,
and everything's going to be fine. But he said, dude,
if you don't want to be all about doing good,
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and if you're not all about seeking justice, and if
you're not all about helping the oppressed, if you're not
all about defending the cause of orphans and those who
can't take care of theirselves, and you're not going to
fight for the rights of widows, He said, then I
really don't care about all of your processions and your
fancy robes and all your religious rituals in your holy
days and all that stuff. He said, that stuff's a
bunch of junk to me, because it's only a show.
(12:34):
It didn't actually change you.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, this very much reminds me of Jesus speaking about
some of the Pharisees. Yeah right, because Jesus actually I
think most of them, Yeah, most of them were He
was actually saying, like their religiosity could actually become the
thing that gets in the way.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
So, And it's a sort of a weird thought, especially
if you're brand new to the faith, to think that
you know that the like ritualistic even gift giving. It says,
you know your offerings, your meaningless gifts, they discuss me so,
which means like somebody here is going through the ritual
of giving gifts, they're going through with burnt offerings, and
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they're going through the motions of worship. So it just
you know, it translates today for us, like it is
possible to go to church to sit up, stand stand up,
sit down, stand up, sit down, to pray, to recite,
or to lift your hands in worship right here in
the auditorium, to go to a small group, you know,
to go through all of the motions, even reading God's
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words sometimes right if our mind and our heart is
not in it, or if we're just rebellious in our spirit,
but to go through the motions of religiosity and to
think that that could actually be the thing that God
is saying is something that he despises. It's not just
something that's like, it's not just meaningless he's saying, I
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despise it because it's hypocrisy. I despise it because you're
it's almost like crossing the line of like mockery. Maybe
perhaps you know, it's like going through the motions when
really you don't mean it, and so therefore it's you know,
it's it's it's empty, it's it almost makes God angry here.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Or going through the motions because that's what religious people do,
he said. He's really saying, I'm not interested in your
religion if it didn't change you, if it didn't penetrate
into your heart, if it doesn't make you want to
do good and to seek justice and help the oppressed,
I'm really not interested if it doesn't make you good.
Because what did Jesus say? The great commandments are love
God and love people. So here he says, just obey
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me and do good and seek justice. Right, it's the same.
So does that mean that the ritual is bad? No,
if the ritual draws you closer to God. I have
I have a friend who converted to Anglicanism. He became
an Anglican and it was because of the pace of
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his life, the frenetic life. He was living all these
things and he just found this holy experience and he
feels closer to God in the ritual. He feels closer
to God in you know, the church building he's in
is these high, soaring ceilings and stained glass, and this
kind of feel like a holy place. He feels close
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to God there. But man, this guy is six days
a week out there serving the homeless, taking care of
of widows, helping plant churches, sharing the gospel, you know,
just helping pulling people off out of the gutter kind
of life. And so I don't think that displeases God
that this man enjoys the ritual. The ritual makes him
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feel closer to God. Right, So that's not bad. That's
not what God's saying. God's saying, if it doesn't change you,
I don't care about it. Right right now, he also
commanded it, right, He's the one who commanded the sacrifice
of Rams. He's the one who commanded the gift, the giving.
He's the one who commanded the Holy Days. He's the
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one who commanded the Sabbath. When you get into Malachi,
he's mad at them for not following the Sabbath. You
get into Jeremiah, he's mad at them about the Holy days. Right.
So God expected them to obey. God expected them to
do the religious things, but he wanted their heart. Otherwise,
if the heart wasn't there, I really don't care about
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the ritual, is what he's saying. So it's not like
he's like, stop the ritual and only give me your heart.
God saying, obey me with all of your heart. And
part of that obedience was the ritual that was expected
of them. So in this though, I love it when
he says, come, let's settle. This says the Lord. Though
your sins are like scarlet, I will make them as
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white as snow. And the note here for Isaiah one
to eighteen in the Life Application Study Bible says, scarlet
and crimson are references to a deep red, permanent dye,
the dark of which was virtually impossible or remove from clothing.
You know, they didn't have all the things we have today, right, bleach.
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The stain of sin is equally permanent except for one remedy.
God's grace is the only cleansing agent that can remove
sin stained from our lives, as he promised to do
for the Israelites. We don't have to go through life
permanently tainted from the effects of sin. God's word assures
us that if we are willing and obedient, Jesus Christ,
who paid for our sins, will forgive and remove our
most indelible stains. Well, you ask him to make you clean.
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I think about that. God doesn't expect us to walk
around with a scarlet letter on us all the time,
right Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
And there's also something else here in my Transformation Bible
Study Notes. It says Isaiah didn't stop with the diagnosis,
but also gave the prescription because he wanted Judah to
be a righteous people. And he says good. The word
settle in this verse can when he says, come, let's
settle this, and verse eighteen, it actually means to decide
a case in court. Here, however, instead of pronouncing judgment,
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the judge offered pardon, so settling would be an actual sentence, right, come,
let's settle this. And what he's saying is this is
this is God's judgment, which is I'm going to make
your sins as.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
We banging the gavel.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah right, Yeah, that's pretty it's pretty great.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
That's Warren Were's b notes. Right, is the editor of that. Yep,
I believe that Study Bible. Yeah, the Transformation Study Bible.
It's one of my favorites also, and he's the Warren Weiersby.
He's in heaven now, but man, he's one of my
favorite thinkers and writers about the Bible. So yeah, I
love that one.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
That's really cool.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Yeah, so that is true, let's settle this that I
think the Hebrew word is it's a court word, it's
a legal word, right, right, Like we would say, let's
settle up right, right, let's bring it to zero, no
more debt. That's that's what's talking about.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, let's settle.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
That's great. I love that.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, and uh, you know I I also love the
idea that when you think about your own sins and
you think about the stains. Uh, it's also in my mind,
my mind goes to guilt, right, because a lot of
times what happens is is, you know, we experience the
full measure of sin in our lives. You know, so
we have the earthly consequences, We have our our relationship
with our heavenly Father and our faith which is damaged.
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You know, in a lot of cases, we you know,
set ourselves back in a lot of ways, right, and
so you know, our reputations, our relationships, all that stuff.
So we have we feel the full weight of sin.
But then we go to God, we repent, we turn
the other way, We confess. And the work confess means
literally to agree with God. Right, So it doesn't necessarily
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mean you have to say it out loud. The work confessed.
It means to agree to turn from to agree God
this is bad. So we confess with our sins. We
agree with God that they're wrong, and we turn away
from them well to carry around guilt for our wrongdoings.
Guilt can be a healthy thing, but guilt has its
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one job, and our one job of guilt is to
is to what I want to say, is to point
you in the right direction of repentance.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yes, that's right, right, right, that's.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Guilt's job, and so guilt, conviction, all of those things
are healthy when they're not easy, but they're healthy if
they point you in the right direction. But once guilt
has done its job, it is time for us to
release the guilt, which is why we can claim the
promises of the East and the West and in this case,
Crimson going as white as snow, because God doesn't intend
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us to live in guilt. Right. But a lot of people,
have you ever met somebody they just put themselves down
and they beat themselves up because they want to wear
gill is a badge of honor, right, and they feel like,
you know, they're like, oh, they just put themselves down.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Love to beat themselves. I'm just nothing but dust. I'm
a horrible human.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, I'm not worthy. You know, nobody's like me. Blah,
blah blah, and I deserve it, and you know, and
it's like no, no.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
No, it's right. Anybody who says that I don't deserve it, Right,
But I'm not the center of the story. Jesus and
he's so good. So let's celebrate how good Jesus is.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yeah, see the center of the story.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah. So if you want to beat yourself all the time,
and I've got some friends theologically who just every beat
yourselves up every yeah, every word that they talk about
whenever they talk about this, Well, I'm just a worm.
I don't deserve it. I'm a horrible person. Okay, we
all are, we're all sinners, we're all less than if
it's all about us. But it's not all about us.
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It's all about him. He's the center of the story.
He's the hero. So let's let him be the hero.
And let's celebrate the fact that he literally Psalm forty,
he lifted me up out of the myrie pit and
he set my feet on a solid rock. Right, So
it's okay for me to celebrate that God did a
good thing. I didn't deserve it, but he did it.
Thank God for it, and let's celebrate him for it.
I don't have to walk around. If he decided to
clean me off whom I'd go ahead and keep telling people.
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But you should have seen how dirty I was in
my heart. I still am really dirty, right right? How
about just let him clean us off and be clean? Right?
That's it. I just it's a frustrating thing. But anyways,
So then there's this thing. It comes up a few
times Isaiah, it comes up in Ecclesiastes. It comes up
in Micah, where he says something like this, learn to
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do good, seek justice, help the oppressed. In the Book
of Proverbs, it talks about how God expects us to
stand up for the oppressed. Matthew chapter twenty five, Jesus says,
at the end of all time, we will be judged.
We will be measured by this our rewards, and aavan
will hinge on, giving a cup of cold water in
Jesus name, clothing the naked, serving orphans and widows, visiting
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the people that are in prison, giving food to hungry people,
and visiting the sick, and those kinds of things. In
Isaiah or in Ecclesiastes, he says, love, do justly, love mercy,
walk humbly with your God. That's what he says, right,
So this theme, you're trying to figure out what God
wants from you as far as the lifestyle of your life.
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It kind of all comes down to the same kinds
of things. God wants us to work towards justice. God
wants us to care about people who can't defend themselves.
That's why he's talking about orphans and widows. Here to
seek to do good and then he'll reward us for
those things. And I was thinking about a friend of mine.
You know, he's a friend of yours too. He was
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a vice president of two different fortune five hundred companies.
He came to faith late later in life. Feels like
he wasted a big chunk of his life. Kind of
was down on himself for a long time.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Him today, by the way, like.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
No big purpose. And then we wind up going out
and working out in the bush. He got a passion
for trying to help people who didn't have good water.
All of a sudden, now he's trying to do good.
That this light came on, and he's trying to figure
out how to raise money to dig wells. And he
helped do some of that. And then we had an
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opportunity to teach him how to be a soul winner,
how to share the gospel, how lead people Jesus. He
got on fire with that. He just wanted to tell everybody.
He started going to people who were hopeless without Christ
and sharing the Gospel with them. And then he was
reading Matthew twenty five where he says, hey, go and
visit the prisoners. And he came to me. He said, hey,
who at our church is serving the people? And we
have a really big jail in our county. Who's serving
the people in the county jail? I said, we don't
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currently have anybody. He said, I want to start that ministry.
Now he's the chaplain at the jail with over a
thousand inmates and serving. And if you talk to him,
he'll still tell you I'm still a sinner. He'll still
tell you, Man, you know, I still struggle in my life,
but I have so much purpose in serving other people.
And so this is what God's inviting you. Not only
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is he asking you to do good because you're supposed
to be a good person, but my experience is when
I watch people who step out and decide to do
these things help the oppressed defend, Like right now, the
defending the cause of orphans and that kind of thing
with transform One. For you, what a passion project that
is for you. You find your passion when you start
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doing the things God tells you to do. And so
I don't know very many people who find their passion
in religious ritual, not many, But man, you find your
passion when you decide you're going to do good, seek justice,
help the oppressed. And so he's not just inviting us
to be good boys and girls, that is what I'm
trying to say. He's inviting us into his mission. And
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there's something just powerful about that, exciting about it.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I email our friend because I gave him a lot
of recommendation for somebody who wanted to assist him with
the jail ministry.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Oh good, Yeah, Yeah, he's trying to build that team
right now, right, He's trying to build up a team,
and I'm excited about it.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
So that's really cool. Hey, well, hey, that is our
time for suret And so hopefully we'll see tomorrow on
the Bible.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Guys,
You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a
couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in
practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible Guys.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Chris. Today, I just want to do the very best
we can do, you know what, go after it today.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I was gonna shoot for mediocrity, but I'm with you, Jeff.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
With me.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I'm gonna elevate my game.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Okay, we're gonna give it all we got today.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yes, and today we're actually gonna launch directly into one
of my favorite segments that never gets old for me.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Okay me either. I like these ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're gonna do who's most likely?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Who's most likely? So all we have to do is
just just immediately say is it me or you?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
And we'll see if we Okay, you go first, you
go first. I'm going to just defer to you this week,
oh this whole week, the week who's most likely to
get scammed by a very polite scammer? Ooh, what's telling me?
Is it? I think? So?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
How come?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Because I always overpay in the markets whenever you have
to negoti not always, but a lot of times. Okay, yeah,
how about you.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
But is that is that different than a scammer?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Though they're scamming me. It's worth ten cents and I'd
pay three dollars for it. It's kind of a scam. Okay,
all right, what are you thinking? Like a phone scammer
or like a like an email.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Stammer and email and phones?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Oh yeah yeah, I never give into those.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah yeah, me neither. Yeah, but but you're right, there
are different scams, right right, So yeah, okay, let's go
with that.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Didn't you get your didn't you get your your passport stolen?
I did?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I did? That was definitely a scam.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
That was a scam.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, but I didn't get scammed in conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
No, but the applied scammer. Those guys were faking like
they were drunk and fell on you.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Right, yes, okay, what a terrible memory.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Who's most likely to try a new hobby and become
unreasonably obsessed within twenty four hours?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Hey, well you're at it, Why don't you give me
a paper cut?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
And port Lemons said, so, who's most likely to try
a new hobby and become unreasonably obsessed within twenty four hours?
That that is me?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, that is you.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I am an enthusiast and through Yes, I find a
new thing, I get super excited about it.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, I don't think I've ever done that. Yeah, yeah,
I don't think that I've found something new and thought, oh,
I can't stop doing this.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I love new things. I love doing a new thing
that I've never done before. I'd love discovering new things,
dumb stuff too, right, And then it's funny. I'll go
for a long time and not do a thing and
then rediscover it, and then that's all I do for
a while too. So even like old things, I don't
just keep like I have friends who do, like they
have the same rhythm all week every week. They just
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kind of do, oh, it's Thursday, Taco Tuesday, right kind
of people. And I'm just not that person. I don't
have that almost perpetual rhythm of most things. But when
I'm doing a thing, I do all that thing. Like
when it's hunting season, I'm just thinking about hunting. I
just want to hunt. During the summer, I just want
to grill. I just want to grill right right now,
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I'm a little obsessed about grinning. I just got a
new rotisserie for my smoker. I'm super excited about all
I think about. So I've probably watched I'm not lying.
I bought the rotisserie yesterday and we're shooting this right
before Thanksgiving. So I'm gonna rotissery my turkey. And I've
watched probably twelve to fifteen videos on row tissry, and
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I've rote tissering using rotisserie to do turkey, and then
I've watched probably ten more on smoking turkeys. And then
I've probably read forty recipes.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Holy Christmas.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, getting ready for my turkey. Wow, super excited. And
I bought my rotisserie yesterday. I decided I want to
buy rotisserie three days ago.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Well you know what I did to prepare for my
Thanksgiving meal?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I ask your wife, when does this start?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I gave Liz money, and I'm gonna ask her, Ey,
when's dinner.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah. So that's me though, But I get really, I'm
a real enthusiast. When I find a new thing, I
just want to do it and do it, and then
I do it till I master it, and then a
lot of times I'm done with it.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Wow. Yeah, that's that's pretty amazing. Which, by the way,
Liz is a very good cook.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yes, she is. She is very so. My my brother
passed away, is why why I wasn't on the podcast
last week. My brother passed away. So, uh, Liz always
rushes to those emergency moments in people's lives, right, So
she came with and dropped off some homemade wedding soup
with the meatballs in it. Oh my gosh, I just
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I was. I wanted to fight my family, keep them back. Yeah,
and then just tit the whole because she brought in
a great, big pot like this, and I just want
to drink the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, she's listening to you right now.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Oh Liz. It was incredible. It was like a big hug,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, that's awesome all right. Way, who's most likely to
fall asleep during a movie? They picked me. I don't know.
I could ravel you in this.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Do you do sleep in movies?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
It depends on the time of the day, but I
would say anything after seven pm, I'm.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Out really okay?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, and I'm talking like, listen, you remember how I
remember in the height of Marvel, how excited I must
have been for Civil War.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yes, I was in Civil.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
War because I want to go see nine o'clock movie.
And I fell asleep. That's the last like thirty minutes.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I don't fall asleep in movie theaters, but I do
fall asleep at home. Yeah. Yeah. So my my daughter
and her boyfriend went to a movie just a couple
of days ago. Yeah, and she came back in talking
about the movie, and she says, and guess who fell
asleep before the movie started. Oh no, he fell asleep
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during the credits and never woke up for the whole movie.
She knows two times. I'm like, that was an expensive,
expensive nap. He just laughed. Yeah, no, kids, Well that's
what happens when men work, because he's a hard worker man, right,
and that's all that happened.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, okay, I think I'm gonna have to trump you
on that because you don't You don't realize how bad
I am.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, okay, So you fall asleep after seven? You fall
asleep on movies? Yep? Okay, Well you know so many
movie quotes. That must mean you watch a lot of
movies before seven.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
That's correct.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, okay, that's correct. So who's most likely to wave
at someone who wasn't waving at them?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
This a lot?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I do it too, do you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Do you do it.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Let's say both of us.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Do you do it while you're driving?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
No?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I wave at everybody when I'm driving, somebody walking down
the street. Way what it's what we did as a
kid growing up. Everybody in the pier did that all the.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Fun on my bike?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
No? No, no, no, I'm talking all the drivers. You're driving
down the road, you got your hand on your steering wheel,
you make our contact and you just wave. You don't
do that?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
No?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Oh yeah, I wave at people in my neighborhood. No, no,
somebody on my I don't know anybody. I don't know
those people. They're No, I'm talking in the whole subdivision,
anywhere I'm at. If I'm just on the street, somebody
walking on the street, I wave.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
In I do. Do people ever initiate waving as they're
behind the wheel for you.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
No, not very often, except up where I hunt.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
You're the only one up up.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Where I hunt. If you're driving down you know, driving
down dirt roads too, pickup trucks coming by, yeah, you
guys will nod and wave.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that that's common. And then also like motorcyclists,
they wave at each other. People would jeeps they're in
a club.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, well, they're not doing it because we're driving pickup
trucks to doing it because we're on the same road.
I know, and we're acknowledging each other.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, yeah, I know. But I was also thinking of clubs.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I also think dangerous men do that. They wave, right,
because waving was always letting you know, I don't have
a weapon in my hand. That's where waving came from.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
You know that, right, No, is this one of these
facts that you know that sounds untrue.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
No, it's true, though, it's true. So waving is I
don't have a weapon in my hand. Shaking hands was
always we're making peace with no weapon in our hand.
Both of those things were, ok.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
But they don't mean that.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Now what do they mean now? It means, hey, I'm
a peaceful person, and so are you. That's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Okay, but nobody thinks that. Nobody thinks I'm not a
violent person.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Therefore it's why I'm waving. I'm not going to hurt you.
That is not I can imagine most people are afraid
I'm probably gonna hurt No people.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
People wave now because they want to be friendly, Okay,
I want to be nice.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, I was making a joke too. That's what I'm
trying to be in friendly. Okay, we should get the
last round.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I was like, there's no way we.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Should get the get the last one.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Who's most likely to hold the door open for someone
who's way too far away?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
That's the worst. Yeah, especially when they slowed down.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, yeah, you hold.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
The door and then somebody goes, oh, where's my keys?
Oh oh oh I got Oh nope, no, So.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I actually forced myself not to open the door for
people who are far away. And I have to tell myself, hey,
I'm off the hook. Like there's like two elderly women
coming into the restaurant right behind me, ladies. But I'm like, well,
here's the thing. I want to stick around. But I'm
thinking like they would almost feel bad. They'd be like,
oh my goodness, you don't have to. I'm gonna create
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like more of a commotion just by sticking around. So
I'm like, you know what, I'm just going to slip
in let the door close. I'm not obligated. It's actually
better for them and for me.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
How far how far away it's too far?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I would say at least fifteen.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yards fifteen yards forty five feet. Yes, okay, yeah, that's
a long way. That's halfway across the park.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, I would say, if somebody is behind me within
like thirty steps, I'll hold them.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Well, those tool ladies like that. What I would do
is step outside the door and wait outside for.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Them, so I could open the door for them, even
in the winter.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, I've done that a lot. Yeah, but I wouldn't
hold the door open for them because that makes everybody
inside cold.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I see see you just stand there. Yeah, yeah, that's right,
wait till they come over, and then open it up
for them. Good for you, Good for you. It's it's
so good.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yes, well, a noble beast.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I'll tell you what. That was a fun segment because
we had to pick either me or you. Yes, but
Isaiah picks God.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Ooh there you go. Yeah wow. He doesn't have to
pick the transition.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
He only picks one person God.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah. So in this uh pat this whole week, we're
talking about God's promises with regard to his forgive and
his mercy. Yes, and here today in Isaiah chapter one,
it's all about how even though our sins are scarlet,
they'll be as white as snow. So I'm just going
to pick up in verse eleven this whole chapter. There's
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a lot of judgment in this chapter. God's kind of mad,
and the prophet is letting them know it. But it
says here in verse eleven, what makes you think I
want all your sacrifices, says the Lord. I'm sick of
your burnt offerings of rams and the fat of fat
and cattle. I get no pleasure from the blood of
bulls and lambs and goats. When you come to worship
me who asked you to pray through my courts with
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all your ceremony, Stop bringing me your meaningless gifts. The
incense of your offerings disgusts me. As for your celebrations
of the New Moon and the Sabbath, and all your
special days for fasting, They're all sinful and false. I
want no more of your pious meetings. I hate your
New Moon celebrations and your annual festivals. They're a burden
to me. I cannot stand them. When you lift up
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your hands in prayer, I will not look. Though you
offer many prayers, I will not listen, for your hands
are covered with the blood of innocent victims. Wash yourselves
and be clean. Get your sins out of my sight.
Give up your evil ways, learn to do good, seek justice,
help the oppressed, defend the cause of orphans, fight for
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the rights of widows. Come now, let's settle this, says
the Lord. Though your sins are like scarlet, I will
make them as white as snow. Though they are red
like crimson, I will make them as white as wool.
If you will only obey me, you'll have plenty to eat.
But if you turn away and refuse to listen, you'll
be devoured by the sword of your enemies. I the
Lord have spoken. I wish he was like really clear
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and said what he was thinking.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, yeah, there's no mission jpreting that.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I wonder what he meant there. As matter of fact,
I don't even know that we even have to talk
about this one.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Right, okay, all right, everybody, thanks for tuning in. We'll
see tomorrow on the bibble.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Guys, quit faking it, Yeah right, just get right, learn
to do good, seek justice, help the oppressed, defend the
cause of orphans, fight for the rights of widows. Confess
your sin, right, and then he says, and obey me,
and everything's going to be fine. But he said, dude,
if you don't want to be all about doing good,
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and if you're not all about seeking justice, and if
you're not all about helping the oppressed, if you're not
all about defending the cause of orphans and those who
can't take care of theirselves, and you're not going to
fight for the rights of widows, He said, then I
really don't care about all of your processions and your
fancy robes and all your religious rituals in your holy
days and all that stuff. He said, that stuff's a
bunch of junk to me, because it's only a show.
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It didn't actually change you.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, this very much reminds me of Jesus speaking about
some of the Pharisees. Yeah right, because Jesus actually I
think most of them, Yeah, most of them were He
was actually saying, like their religiosity could actually become the
thing that gets in the way.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
So, And it's a sort of a weird thought, especially
if you're brand new to the faith, to think that
you know that the like ritualistic even gift giving. It says,
you know your offerings, your meaningless gifts, they discuss me so,
which means like somebody here is going through the ritual
of giving gifts, they're going through with burnt offerings, and
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they're going through the motions of worship. So it just
you know, it translates today for us, like it is
possible to go to church to sit up, stand stand up,
sit down, stand up, sit down, to pray, to recite,
or to lift your hands in worship right here in
the auditorium, to go to a small group, you know,
to go through all of the motions, even reading God's
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words sometimes right if our mind and our heart is
not in it, or if we're just rebellious in our spirit,
but to go through the motions of religiosity and to
think that that could actually be the thing that God
is saying is something that he despises. It's not just
something that's like, it's not just meaningless he's saying, I
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despise it because it's hypocrisy. I despise it because you're
it's almost like crossing the line of like mockery. Maybe
perhaps you know, it's like going through the motions when
really you don't mean it, and so therefore it's you know,
it's it's it's empty, it's it almost makes God angry here.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Or going through the motions because that's what religious people do,
he said. He's really saying, I'm not interested in your
religion if it didn't change you, if it didn't penetrate
into your heart, if it doesn't make you want to
do good and to seek justice and help the oppressed,
I'm really not interested if it doesn't make you good.
Because what did Jesus say? The great commandments are love
God and love people. So here he says, just obey
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me and do good and seek justice. Right, it's the same.
So does that mean that the ritual is bad? No,
if the ritual draws you closer to God. I have
I have a friend who converted to Anglicanism. He became
an Anglican and it was because of the pace of
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his life, the frenetic life. He was living all these
things and he just found this holy experience and he
feels closer to God in the ritual. He feels closer
to God in you know, the church building he's in
is these high, soaring ceilings and stained glass, and this
kind of feel like a holy place. He feels close
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to God there. But man, this guy is six days
a week out there serving the homeless, taking care of
of widows, helping plant churches, sharing the gospel, you know,
just helping pulling people off out of the gutter kind
of life. And so I don't think that displeases God
that this man enjoys the ritual. The ritual makes him
(15:44):
feel closer to God. Right, So that's not bad. That's
not what God's saying. God's saying, if it doesn't change you,
I don't care about it. Right right now, he also
commanded it, right, He's the one who commanded the sacrifice
of Rams. He's the one who commanded the gift, the giving.
He's the one who commanded the Holy Days. He's the
(16:04):
one who commanded the Sabbath. When you get into Malachi,
he's mad at them for not following the Sabbath. You
get into Jeremiah, he's mad at them about the Holy days. Right.
So God expected them to obey. God expected them to
do the religious things, but he wanted their heart. Otherwise,
if the heart wasn't there, I really don't care about
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the ritual, is what he's saying. So it's not like
he's like, stop the ritual and only give me your heart.
God saying, obey me with all of your heart. And
part of that obedience was the ritual that was expected
of them. So in this though, I love it when
he says, come, let's settle. This says the Lord. Though
your sins are like scarlet, I will make them as
(16:45):
white as snow. And the note here for Isaiah one
to eighteen in the Life Application Study Bible says, scarlet
and crimson are references to a deep red, permanent dye,
the dark of which was virtually impossible or remove from clothing.
You know, they didn't have all the things we have today, right, bleach.
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The stain of sin is equally permanent except for one remedy.
God's grace is the only cleansing agent that can remove
sin stained from our lives, as he promised to do
for the Israelites. We don't have to go through life
permanently tainted from the effects of sin. God's word assures
us that if we are willing and obedient, Jesus Christ,
who paid for our sins, will forgive and remove our
most indelible stains. Well, you ask him to make you clean.
(17:32):
I think about that. God doesn't expect us to walk
around with a scarlet letter on us all the time,
right Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
And there's also something else here in my Transformation Bible
Study Notes. It says Isaiah didn't stop with the diagnosis,
but also gave the prescription because he wanted Judah to
be a righteous people. And he says good. The word
settle in this verse can when he says, come, let's
settle this, and verse eighteen, it actually means to decide
a case in court. Here, however, instead of pronouncing judgment,
(18:02):
the judge offered pardon, so settling would be an actual sentence, right, come,
let's settle this. And what he's saying is this is
this is God's judgment, which is I'm going to make
your sins as.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
We banging the gavel.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah right, Yeah, that's pretty it's pretty great.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
That's Warren Were's b notes. Right, is the editor of that. Yep,
I believe that Study Bible. Yeah, the Transformation Study Bible.
It's one of my favorites also, and he's the Warren Weiersby.
He's in heaven now, but man, he's one of my
favorite thinkers and writers about the Bible. So yeah, I
love that one.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
That's really cool.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Yeah, so that is true, let's settle this that I
think the Hebrew word is it's a court word, it's
a legal word, right, right, Like we would say, let's
settle up right, right, let's bring it to zero, no
more debt. That's that's what's talking about.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, let's settle.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
That's great. I love that.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, and uh, you know I I also love the
idea that when you think about your own sins and
you think about the stains. Uh, it's also in my mind,
my mind goes to guilt, right, because a lot of
times what happens is is, you know, we experience the
full measure of sin in our lives. You know, so
we have the earthly consequences, We have our our relationship
with our heavenly Father and our faith which is damaged.
(19:12):
You know, in a lot of cases, we you know,
set ourselves back in a lot of ways, right, and
so you know, our reputations, our relationships, all that stuff.
So we have we feel the full weight of sin.
But then we go to God, we repent, we turn
the other way, We confess. And the work confess means
literally to agree with God. Right, So it doesn't necessarily
(19:36):
mean you have to say it out loud. The work confessed.
It means to agree to turn from to agree God
this is bad. So we confess with our sins. We
agree with God that they're wrong, and we turn away
from them well to carry around guilt for our wrongdoings.
Guilt can be a healthy thing, but guilt has its
(19:56):
one job, and our one job of guilt is to
is to what I want to say, is to point
you in the right direction of repentance.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yes, that's right, right, right, that's.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Guilt's job, and so guilt, conviction, all of those things
are healthy when they're not easy, but they're healthy if
they point you in the right direction. But once guilt
has done its job, it is time for us to
release the guilt, which is why we can claim the
promises of the East and the West and in this case,
Crimson going as white as snow, because God doesn't intend
(20:29):
us to live in guilt. Right. But a lot of people,
have you ever met somebody they just put themselves down
and they beat themselves up because they want to wear
gill is a badge of honor, right, and they feel like,
you know, they're like, oh, they just put themselves down.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Love to beat themselves. I'm just nothing but dust. I'm
a horrible human.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, I'm not worthy. You know, nobody's like me. Blah,
blah blah, and I deserve it, and you know, and
it's like no, no.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
No, it's right. Anybody who says that I don't deserve it, Right,
But I'm not the center of the story. Jesus and
he's so good. So let's celebrate how good Jesus is.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yeah, see the center of the story.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah. So if you want to beat yourself all the time,
and I've got some friends theologically who just every beat
yourselves up every yeah, every word that they talk about
whenever they talk about this, Well, I'm just a worm.
I don't deserve it. I'm a horrible person. Okay, we
all are, we're all sinners, we're all less than if
it's all about us. But it's not all about us.
(21:26):
It's all about him. He's the center of the story.
He's the hero. So let's let him be the hero.
And let's celebrate the fact that he literally Psalm forty,
he lifted me up out of the myrie pit and
he set my feet on a solid rock. Right, So
it's okay for me to celebrate that God did a
good thing. I didn't deserve it, but he did it.
Thank God for it, and let's celebrate him for it.
I don't have to walk around. If he decided to
clean me off whom I'd go ahead and keep telling people.
(21:48):
But you should have seen how dirty I was in
my heart. I still am really dirty, right right? How
about just let him clean us off and be clean? Right?
That's it. I just it's a frustrating thing. But anyways,
So then there's this thing. It comes up a few
times Isaiah, it comes up in Ecclesiastes. It comes up
in Micah, where he says something like this, learn to
(22:12):
do good, seek justice, help the oppressed. In the Book
of Proverbs, it talks about how God expects us to
stand up for the oppressed. Matthew chapter twenty five, Jesus says,
at the end of all time, we will be judged.
We will be measured by this our rewards, and aavan
will hinge on, giving a cup of cold water in
Jesus name, clothing the naked, serving orphans and widows, visiting
(22:33):
the people that are in prison, giving food to hungry people,
and visiting the sick, and those kinds of things. In
Isaiah or in Ecclesiastes, he says, love, do justly, love mercy,
walk humbly with your God. That's what he says, right,
So this theme, you're trying to figure out what God
wants from you as far as the lifestyle of your life.
(22:55):
It kind of all comes down to the same kinds
of things. God wants us to work towards justice. God
wants us to care about people who can't defend themselves.
That's why he's talking about orphans and widows. Here to
seek to do good and then he'll reward us for
those things. And I was thinking about a friend of mine.
You know, he's a friend of yours too. He was
(23:15):
a vice president of two different fortune five hundred companies.
He came to faith late later in life. Feels like
he wasted a big chunk of his life. Kind of
was down on himself for a long time.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Him today, by the way, like.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
No big purpose. And then we wind up going out
and working out in the bush. He got a passion
for trying to help people who didn't have good water.
All of a sudden, now he's trying to do good.
That this light came on, and he's trying to figure
out how to raise money to dig wells. And he
helped do some of that. And then we had an
(23:48):
opportunity to teach him how to be a soul winner,
how to share the gospel, how lead people Jesus. He
got on fire with that. He just wanted to tell everybody.
He started going to people who were hopeless without Christ
and sharing the Gospel with them. And then he was
reading Matthew twenty five where he says, hey, go and
visit the prisoners. And he came to me. He said, hey,
who at our church is serving the people? And we
have a really big jail in our county. Who's serving
the people in the county jail? I said, we don't
(24:08):
currently have anybody. He said, I want to start that ministry.
Now he's the chaplain at the jail with over a
thousand inmates and serving. And if you talk to him,
he'll still tell you I'm still a sinner. He'll still
tell you, Man, you know, I still struggle in my life,
but I have so much purpose in serving other people.
And so this is what God's inviting you. Not only
(24:30):
is he asking you to do good because you're supposed
to be a good person, but my experience is when
I watch people who step out and decide to do
these things help the oppressed defend, Like right now, the
defending the cause of orphans and that kind of thing
with transform One. For you, what a passion project that
is for you. You find your passion when you start
(24:52):
doing the things God tells you to do. And so
I don't know very many people who find their passion
in religious ritual, not many, But man, you find your
passion when you decide you're going to do good, seek justice,
help the oppressed. And so he's not just inviting us
to be good boys and girls, that is what I'm
trying to say. He's inviting us into his mission. And
(25:13):
there's something just powerful about that, exciting about it.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I email our friend because I gave him a lot
of recommendation for somebody who wanted to assist him with
the jail ministry.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Oh good, Yeah, Yeah, he's trying to build that team
right now, right, He's trying to build up a team,
and I'm excited about it.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
So that's really cool. Hey, well, hey, that is our
time for suret And so hopefully we'll see tomorrow on
the Bible.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
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