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Speaker 1 (00:11):
While I started back in ninety three. My family saw
the government planted this inside of me.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
After that, I found the psychedelic mushrooms LSB, and then
I saw the symbols that they used inside the industry.
There's a little ghost that lives inside my house, and
if I burn some incense, it comes out. The Grimoski
keeps the spirits out.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
The Grimoski keeps the spirits out.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Everything around me looks so different.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I think I saw a skin walker shape shifting.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Is that an alien? Or remind Triven? Is that an alien?
Or Rami Dridlen? The CIA will kill you for your art.
A free missing was there right from the start. If
you could get they'll call you a tin foil hat.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I say that that is flat.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I don't believe in that.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
And I love other Cryptids in the Night, and I
love the.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Aliens Insight, and I love his famous season life, and
I love the Big Post Podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
To Me and the Knight to Be and the Nice
to Be in the Night to Be in the Nice
Jim and the Night to Be in the Nice to Be.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
In the Night to Be in the Nice.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Welcome back to the show. I'm your host, The Big
Rambowski and today we're peeling back the veil on one
of the most terrifying government programs to ever exist. Not
a whisper of it in your history books, but its
fingerprints are on everything from biological weapons to unexplained deaths.
(01:54):
This isn't mk Ultra. No no, no, no, no, no, no no.
This one is Arker. This is mk NAOMI, a black
budget program so secretive its existence was denied for decades.
It operated in the shadows, developing silent weapons for silent wars.
(02:18):
And now we've got the files, let's begin. So what
was mk naomi? MK and IOMI was the biological warfare
division of the CIA's infamous mk Ultra project. While mk
(02:40):
Ultra focused on mind control LSD and behavioral manipulation, mk
NAOMI was about something else, entirely biological sabotage. From the
nineteen fifties to the nineteen seventies, mk NAOMI operated as
a joint venture between the CIA in the US Army
(03:01):
Special Operations Division at Fort Dietrich, Maryland. Its mission to
develop lethal biological agents, diseases, and delivery mechanisms for covert use.
We're talking toxins that couldn't be traced, weapons that mimic
(03:25):
natural illness and virus that could take out a target
or a population without a single gunshot fired. Think of
it as the invisible dagger of the deep state, and
like all good Cold War horror stories, it was very real.
(03:51):
So let's get to the CIA in the Fort Dietrich connection.
Fort Dietrich was ground zero for the biological warfare program.
It was there that scientists, under the protection of military secrecy,
worked side by side with the CIA to develop materials
that could kill or incapacitate with extreme precision. Documents show
(04:20):
that MKNAOMI focused on creating stockpiles of incapacitating and lethal
materials which were stored for CIA use. The program was
developed assassination tools, including toxin laced darts, aerosols, poisoned cigars,
(04:41):
and even modified clothing that could infect someone with a
pathogen through contact. The CIA's Technical Service Division, the same
group responsible for espionage gadgets, coordinated directly with the Special
Operations Division at Fort Dietrich. It was a perfect marriage
(05:08):
of science and subterfuge. Some agents would receive these tools
with vague instructions, others knew what they were carrying, and
if something went wrong, there was plausible deniability. The victim
just got sick or diagnoir sly natural causes or so
(05:32):
is seemed. Now, what did mk NAOMI really do? The
released documents are vague, intentionally vague, but we know this.
They developed aerosolized anthrax for targeted dispersion. They experimented with
(06:04):
Batu batulinum toxin, one of the deadliest poisons on Earth.
They created virus cocktails designed to weaken immune systems before
introducing fatal pathogens. They worked on vector weapons. Flees take
some mosquitoes genetically modified to carry diseases. That's fucked up.
(06:29):
There are even files indicating research into race specific bioweapons,
a chilling concept that yes, involves targeting individuals based on
genetic markers or ancestry. And then there's the suicide heart attack.
A gun, Oh yeah, that's definitely a thing. In nineteen
(06:54):
seventy five, during a congressional hearing, a CIA whistleblower reveal
the existence of a gun that could fire a dart
so small and left no trace, delivering a dose of
shellfish toxin that caused immediate cardiac arrest. The victim would
die singingly, have natural causes, while the dart dissolved inside
(07:16):
the body. They even showed the weapon on camera. Let
that sink in. Let that sink in. Guys, for real,
tell me that that it's not fucked up. So the
(07:38):
declassified files, so what do the declassified mknanially files tell us?
Some were released during the Church Committee hearings in the
nineteen seventies, a rare moment where Congress peeled back the
lid on CIA activities. But even now much remains redacted
(07:58):
or lost. But we do have confirms though the program
was real, it operated a restrict need to know basis.
Dozens of toxins were created and tested. At least one
stockpile was maintained until nineteen seventy. The CIA destroyed much
(08:25):
of its Naomi material around the time Conger started asking questions.
In nineteen seventy, President Nixon officially banned US offensive biological
weapons programs, but the CIA continued to work on defensive research.
And that's a blurry line. We also have internal memos
(08:50):
discussing the use of MK Naomi materials for sabotage operations overseas,
although names and locations are always conveniently blacked out. They
scrubbed the tracks, but they missed a few prints. That's
(09:15):
where the whistleblowers and testimony come in. Let's talk about testimony.
Frank Olsen was a US Army scientist at Fort Dietrich, Helly,
involved in biological warfare research. In nineteen fifty three, he
fell or was thrown from a thirteenth story hotel window
(09:37):
in New York City in City, New York City officially
and of course they claimed it as suicide unofficially, though
he wanted out, he knew too much. His family fought
(09:59):
for decades to him cover the truth. And then when
Olsen's body was exhumed in the in the nineteen nineties,
forensic tests found blunt force trauma to the head inconsistent
with a fault. Many believe Olsen was murdered by the
(10:20):
CIA to prevent him from leaking mk NAOMI secrets. He
was dosed with LSD days before his death, part of
an mk ultri experiment to destabilize him. But it goes
deeper than acid trips. He was deeply disturbed by the
real world applications of his work, what was being done
(10:42):
in foreign countries and to whom Frank Olsen became a liability.
A liabilities you get eliminated. M Knaomi was officially shut
(11:04):
down in the nineteen seventies, oh in nineteen seventy, but
ask yourself to something that deep, that secret really end.
Many researchers believe MK naomi simply evolved, rebranded under different
names hidden in newer black ops programs. DARPA biotechnology is secretive,
(11:24):
CDC contracts gain a function research. There are echoes everywhere.
The US and other world powers continue to invest in
bio defense and synthetic biology. Today, pathogens can be edited
(11:46):
with crisper, synthesized in labs, and custom built to behave
in ways we don't fully understand. The nightmare hasn't ended,
It's just gotten smarter and quieter. So what is the
(12:16):
legacy of Mknaomi's chilling reminder that the pursuit of control
control over minds, bodies, nations often leads us into the
darkest corners of science, and in those corners, ethics die first.
(12:44):
MK and Naomi may not be a household name like
MK Ultra, but it deserves a spotlight because hidden in
those redacted pages as the truth, we're still not ready
to face that some of the most dangerous weapons leave
no bullet holes. This is the Big Grambowski, reminding you
(13:11):
once again that the truth isn't always comforting, but it
is out there, so stay safe, stay skeptical, and always
sleep tight. So I want you guys to kind of
(13:34):
think about that today, think about the possibility that maybe
that our government is still doing these kinds of things
and are different guys, and we won't know it, and
it won't be another thirty forty fifty years before the
files are even let out again. But until then, hit
(14:03):
the likes, hit the five stars, hit the shares, hit
the reviews, hit the comments. Let's grow this bitch out because,
as we know, the only thing that stops us from
(14:23):
finding the truth is to just stop looking, bury your
head in the sand and dream of ice creaming puppy dogs.
But we don't live in that kind of world. Dewy nah,
especially if you're listening to this. You're listening to this
(14:44):
show that ain't for you. You know better. You got that
third eye wide the fuck open, and we're fucking doing
things again. I want to thank everybody for coming here today.
We'll have another one next week as usual. We're gonna
keep this going. I can't wait to see how many
(15:07):
episodes we're on this time. Next year also got some
bigger episodes and the works some cool things going on.
Those will be coming out eventually, so stay tuned for
that shit. But uh yeah, I absolutely love you guys.
(15:30):
Keep doing the fucking thing, and one more thing, stay
fucking weird, y'all.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Check you don't even know me.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
There's no idea end of the tunnel.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
I don't want you to control my brain. Only lose
slowly my pain.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Don't try to console me.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
My mind. You think you can mol me.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
My life isn't a trophy.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
You don't know what's in my head.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
ProjectNe only, don't.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Wanna show, No wanna sho, don't wanna You don't wanna
go check nay only you don't even know me. There's
(16:46):
no way at the end of the tone. I don't
want you to control me. Wanna shoe, don't wanna. You
don't even know me.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
There's no light at the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
I don't want you to control me. Sho, don't wanna
I sho don't know. There's no way. I mean, I
(17:30):
don't want you to shore me
While I started back in ninety three. My family saw
the government planted this inside of me.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
After that, I found the psychedelic mushrooms LSB, and then
I saw the symbols that they used inside the industry.
There's a little ghost that lives inside my house, and
if I burn some incense, it comes out. The Grimoski
keeps the spirits out.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
The Grimoski keeps the spirits out.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Everything around me looks so different.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I think I saw a skin walker shape shifting.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Is that an alien? Or remind Triven? Is that an alien?
Or Rami Dridlen? The CIA will kill you for your art.
A free missing was there right from the start. If
you could get they'll call you a tin foil hat.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I say that that is flat.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I don't believe in that.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
And I love other Cryptids in the Night, and I
love the.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Aliens Insight, and I love his famous season life, and
I love the Big Post Podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
To Me and the Knight to Be and the Nice
to Be in the Night to Be in the Nice
Jim and the Night to Be in the Nice to Be.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
In the Night to Be in the Nice.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Welcome back to the show. I'm your host, The Big
Rambowski and today we're peeling back the veil on one
of the most terrifying government programs to ever exist. Not
a whisper of it in your history books, but its
fingerprints are on everything from biological weapons to unexplained deaths.
(01:54):
This isn't mk Ultra. No no, no, no, no, no, no no.
This one is Arker. This is mk NAOMI, a black
budget program so secretive its existence was denied for decades.
It operated in the shadows, developing silent weapons for silent wars.
(02:18):
And now we've got the files, let's begin. So what
was mk naomi? MK and IOMI was the biological warfare
division of the CIA's infamous mk Ultra project. While mk
(02:40):
Ultra focused on mind control LSD and behavioral manipulation, mk
NAOMI was about something else, entirely biological sabotage. From the
nineteen fifties to the nineteen seventies, mk NAOMI operated as
a joint venture between the CIA in the US Army
(03:01):
Special Operations Division at Fort Dietrich, Maryland. Its mission to
develop lethal biological agents, diseases, and delivery mechanisms for covert use.
We're talking toxins that couldn't be traced, weapons that mimic
(03:25):
natural illness and virus that could take out a target
or a population without a single gunshot fired. Think of
it as the invisible dagger of the deep state, and
like all good Cold War horror stories, it was very real.
(03:51):
So let's get to the CIA in the Fort Dietrich connection.
Fort Dietrich was ground zero for the biological warfare program.
It was there that scientists, under the protection of military secrecy,
worked side by side with the CIA to develop materials
that could kill or incapacitate with extreme precision. Documents show
(04:20):
that MKNAOMI focused on creating stockpiles of incapacitating and lethal
materials which were stored for CIA use. The program was
developed assassination tools, including toxin laced darts, aerosols, poisoned cigars,
(04:41):
and even modified clothing that could infect someone with a
pathogen through contact. The CIA's Technical Service Division, the same
group responsible for espionage gadgets, coordinated directly with the Special
Operations Division at Fort Dietrich. It was a perfect marriage
(05:08):
of science and subterfuge. Some agents would receive these tools
with vague instructions, others knew what they were carrying, and
if something went wrong, there was plausible deniability. The victim
just got sick or diagnoir sly natural causes or so
(05:32):
is seemed. Now, what did mk NAOMI really do? The
released documents are vague, intentionally vague, but we know this.
They developed aerosolized anthrax for targeted dispersion. They experimented with
(06:04):
Batu batulinum toxin, one of the deadliest poisons on Earth.
They created virus cocktails designed to weaken immune systems before
introducing fatal pathogens. They worked on vector weapons. Flees take
some mosquitoes genetically modified to carry diseases. That's fucked up.
(06:29):
There are even files indicating research into race specific bioweapons,
a chilling concept that yes, involves targeting individuals based on
genetic markers or ancestry. And then there's the suicide heart attack.
A gun, Oh yeah, that's definitely a thing. In nineteen
(06:54):
seventy five, during a congressional hearing, a CIA whistleblower reveal
the existence of a gun that could fire a dart
so small and left no trace, delivering a dose of
shellfish toxin that caused immediate cardiac arrest. The victim would
die singingly, have natural causes, while the dart dissolved inside
(07:16):
the body. They even showed the weapon on camera. Let
that sink in. Let that sink in. Guys, for real,
tell me that that it's not fucked up. So the
(07:38):
declassified files, so what do the declassified mknanially files tell us?
Some were released during the Church Committee hearings in the
nineteen seventies, a rare moment where Congress peeled back the
lid on CIA activities. But even now much remains redacted
(07:58):
or lost. But we do have confirms though the program
was real, it operated a restrict need to know basis.
Dozens of toxins were created and tested. At least one
stockpile was maintained until nineteen seventy. The CIA destroyed much
(08:25):
of its Naomi material around the time Conger started asking questions.
In nineteen seventy, President Nixon officially banned US offensive biological
weapons programs, but the CIA continued to work on defensive research.
And that's a blurry line. We also have internal memos
(08:50):
discussing the use of MK Naomi materials for sabotage operations overseas,
although names and locations are always conveniently blacked out. They
scrubbed the tracks, but they missed a few prints. That's
(09:15):
where the whistleblowers and testimony come in. Let's talk about testimony.
Frank Olsen was a US Army scientist at Fort Dietrich, Helly,
involved in biological warfare research. In nineteen fifty three, he
fell or was thrown from a thirteenth story hotel window
(09:37):
in New York City in City, New York City officially
and of course they claimed it as suicide unofficially, though
he wanted out, he knew too much. His family fought
(09:59):
for decades to him cover the truth. And then when
Olsen's body was exhumed in the in the nineteen nineties,
forensic tests found blunt force trauma to the head inconsistent
with a fault. Many believe Olsen was murdered by the
(10:20):
CIA to prevent him from leaking mk NAOMI secrets. He
was dosed with LSD days before his death, part of
an mk ultri experiment to destabilize him. But it goes
deeper than acid trips. He was deeply disturbed by the
real world applications of his work, what was being done
(10:42):
in foreign countries and to whom Frank Olsen became a liability.
A liabilities you get eliminated. M Knaomi was officially shut
(11:04):
down in the nineteen seventies, oh in nineteen seventy, but
ask yourself to something that deep, that secret really end.
Many researchers believe MK naomi simply evolved, rebranded under different
names hidden in newer black ops programs. DARPA biotechnology is secretive,
(11:24):
CDC contracts gain a function research. There are echoes everywhere.
The US and other world powers continue to invest in
bio defense and synthetic biology. Today, pathogens can be edited
(11:46):
with crisper, synthesized in labs, and custom built to behave
in ways we don't fully understand. The nightmare hasn't ended,
It's just gotten smarter and quieter. So what is the
(12:16):
legacy of Mknaomi's chilling reminder that the pursuit of control
control over minds, bodies, nations often leads us into the
darkest corners of science, and in those corners, ethics die first.
(12:44):
MK and Naomi may not be a household name like
MK Ultra, but it deserves a spotlight because hidden in
those redacted pages as the truth, we're still not ready
to face that some of the most dangerous weapons leave
no bullet holes. This is the Big Grambowski, reminding you
(13:11):
once again that the truth isn't always comforting, but it
is out there, so stay safe, stay skeptical, and always
sleep tight. So I want you guys to kind of
(13:34):
think about that today, think about the possibility that maybe
that our government is still doing these kinds of things
and are different guys, and we won't know it, and
it won't be another thirty forty fifty years before the
files are even let out again. But until then, hit
(14:03):
the likes, hit the five stars, hit the shares, hit
the reviews, hit the comments. Let's grow this bitch out because,
as we know, the only thing that stops us from
(14:23):
finding the truth is to just stop looking, bury your
head in the sand and dream of ice creaming puppy dogs.
But we don't live in that kind of world. Dewy nah,
especially if you're listening to this. You're listening to this
(14:44):
show that ain't for you. You know better. You got that
third eye wide the fuck open, and we're fucking doing
things again. I want to thank everybody for coming here today.
We'll have another one next week as usual. We're gonna
keep this going. I can't wait to see how many
(15:07):
episodes we're on this time. Next year also got some
bigger episodes and the works some cool things going on.
Those will be coming out eventually, so stay tuned for
that shit. But uh yeah, I absolutely love you guys.
(15:30):
Keep doing the fucking thing, and one more thing, stay
fucking weird, y'all.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Check you don't even know me.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
There's no idea end of the tunnel.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
I don't want you to control my brain. Only lose
slowly my pain.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Don't try to console me.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
My mind. You think you can mol me.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
My life isn't a trophy.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
You don't know what's in my head.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
ProjectNe only, don't.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Wanna show, No wanna sho, don't wanna You don't wanna
go check nay only you don't even know me. There's
(16:46):
no way at the end of the tone. I don't
want you to control me. Wanna shoe, don't wanna. You
don't even know me.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
There's no light at the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
I don't want you to control me. Sho, don't wanna
I sho don't know. There's no way. I mean, I
(17:30):
don't want you to shore me
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