B.I.S.T.S. Episode 31 with Special guest

A special guest joins the show
RIP George Foreman
LeFlop James changing the game
MLB is back with new Yankee bats
NBA dwindling down
and MORE! 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Shit, what's up? What's up? Everybody?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Welcome back to another episode, episode thirty one, and the
Big on his first off show.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
I am brother, No with me is always it? Brother Matthew.
How's it going, my.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Matt what's going on?

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Man?

Speaker 3 (00:35):
I'm here Episode thirty one. Man, it just sounds fun
to say, don't it. It does, It does, And this
episode is special to me, not only because I get
to be with you on there. Oh you know, I
got to hit the drop on there, But today I'm
bringing in one of the best people I've ever met,
Myron Praier. This guy's got a heart of gold. You
talk about the ultimate family man. This guy is crazy enough.

(00:58):
He ran a half marathon with me and then turned
around and ran a full marathon in Honolulu just this
past December, right here. But I'm all it. That nice guy,
great personality. His laugh might be as contagious as yours is.
So without further ado, Myron, Welcome to the Big Island

(01:21):
Sports talk Show.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
How you feeling today?

Speaker 5 (01:24):
What's up?

Speaker 6 (01:24):
What's up?

Speaker 7 (01:25):
Man?

Speaker 5 (01:25):
Thank you for having me today. I'm feeling great, honored
to be here on the show. It's kind of surreal.
I've listened to you guys thirty times already and loving it, man,
loving it, you know, just great to be a part
of the show, jumping in here with you guys and
just tossing around some thoughts about sports man.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Well, we're glad to have you. Yeah, you've been there
from the very start. Man, I can't even get my
twin brother to listen, and you've been there all thirty episodes.
I love that. No, I love that really though. You know,
we're honored, we love what we can have guests on.
You now our second official guest because we've had it
go on twice. But now you know you you are

(02:05):
the second person on. I guess third really because Valerie
was in that episode to episode twenty six, so I'm
not gonna.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Oh, yeah, that's right, Ris.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
She was. She was my co host. She did a
great job there. So absolutely grateful. But I think that's
what makes the show special is that we can open
it up. We like to hear different opinions, and yeah,
we can't wait to hear yours. We got a big agenda.
I mean, looking at the rundown we got, we got
MLB starting, I mean it's that time. I'm surprised you're
not wearing the Dodgers hat right now, brother, no you

(02:36):
got you still got the Rams on. But that's all right.
But we got NBA Playoff push, you know, recipees to
George Foreman. We'll get to that after the break. And
of course we want to talk some sports, so let's
let's kick it off with the NFL, just because they
seem to always be in the in the forefront, and
all three of us are fans. In fact, you two

(02:56):
have teams that are competing in the NFC. Way, you're
Cardinals fan. Talk to me about that, man, how does
one become a Cardinals fan?

Speaker 5 (03:06):
Well, you know, I followed I followed Mattleinhart that he
really got me into it. I followed him from college
and I really liked him, but he kind of fizzled out.
I just got my head days ago. And then Larry
Fitzgerald he went into UH and he ended up being
a wide receiver, and I really thought I followed him
from Pitt Monster.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
He's a monster.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
He's a monster, and he just the personality himself. Just
I followed him and I said, dude, okay, we're gonna
go down that rabbit hole. And I ended up becoming
a Cardinals fan. You know, I didn't want to be
a bandwagon team, a team that just buys championships like
the Yankees. You know, they just but you know, I

(03:51):
just didn't want to do that. I didn't want to
be a fan that that just jumps on the bandwagon,
you know, like a Cowboys or something that just always hey,
I'm coming out shooting to day boys. But you know,
it's just it's just the fireworks that all these guys throw.
They're pretty much throwing money at it. And I looked
at the Cardinals, and I looked at Larry Fitz and
you know, they kind of went grassroots and they brought

(04:13):
up their talent out of the draft. They didn't go
out and buy a bunch of players and buy a championship.
So that's that's me in a nutshell man with the
Cardinals thing.

Speaker 6 (04:24):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, I understand that, And I think you're being a
fan for the right reasons. And then going back to
the shot you took the Yankees. Look, they can throw
all the money that they can at it, but they
haven't won championships in two thousand and nine. I mean,
I graduated high school, so you're right, you could throw
a bunch of money at it, it's still not get
the results. So it's better to be a fan for
the right reason.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
So an awesome guy. And Larry fitz Man, what a
what a humble, humble guy.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
I like him.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
He does good with the community, and he's just an
all around awesome guy.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
And just a gentleman on the field.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
You know, yes, yes, yeah, you talk about the guy
that played the game the right way and didn't.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Wanted a big contract, didn't wanted to go someplace else
to win rings. He wanted to win at Arizona. And
it was an awesome guy.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, and got close. I mean they should have beat
the Steelers. Was a super should have won that game,
and he had. I mean obviously he scored the last
touchdowns for them. I thought when he took off and
I see him blowing past Troy Polamalu, I was like,
they're not gonna catch him. I was like, Kurt Warner
really got the job done with this squad. And then
of course Ben Roethlisberger comes back down with Antonio Holmes

(05:32):
and makes one of the best you know, throws and
catches history. It was tot tapping to tapping, Yeah, and
then going back to Larry fitz I don't know out
of check is he in the Hall of Fame now?
Is he should?

Speaker 1 (05:46):
He should be?

Speaker 5 (05:47):
He shouldn't quite get there, you know.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yet. There's a lot of wide receivers on that cusp though,
you got a lot. I mean, Tory Holt, I think
I don't know if he ever did get in, but
you had Isaac Bruce, Marvin Harrison. I mean there's a
lot of guys Reggie Wayne from that the early two thousands,
that just it's just tough, you know what I mean,
It's tough to see you know, why this person over
that person. But I think anytime you've got ten thousand

(06:12):
plus receiving yards and people. You mentioned Larry Fitzgerald. First
thing you both said was he was a monster, you
know that. And he played the game the right way.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Too, the right way.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yes, yeah, wide receivers get the nickname being a diva,
but he was not that right yeah you mentioned brother No,
you said it. He didn't want the big contract. He
was always team friendly, played the game the right way,
advocated for Arizona. I think he was like the face
of like with the Phoenix was that that night school
University of Phoenix degree? Yeah, like that's the kind of

(06:43):
stuff we remember, and like, you guys have been sports
fans to a long time, so that kind of stuff
stands out. So that's that's pretty dope, though. I mean
I always kind of pulled for the Cardinals on that subject.
I gotta ask about your quarterback. I really really like
Kyler Murray. Not only does guy make sports history being
the first player ever drafted in the first round of

(07:04):
MLB and in the NFL, but I mean the guy's
like five eight, five nine, elusive as hell, and he's
got a kid in for an arm. It's hard not
to like them.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
Yeah, that's it's very hard not to like them.

Speaker 6 (07:16):
You know.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
I thought they were crazy when when they drafted two
quarterbacks back to back year after year, and like, what
are they doing? And you know, it's just new regime.
And then they bring in you know, new brass, and
new brass likes he likes to have things their way.
And then they brought in Kyler Murray, and you know,
he's taking some hits and I think he's he's doing

(07:38):
all right. He'll mature, he'll mature out here in the
next couple of years, you know, But he seems to
show some promise.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
I like the balls on this guy.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
It's just a manis man every time he plays well,
just a man of I'm like, come on, stop this guy.
But he's just a magician on the field. Man the
way he can run out the pocket. And I'm sure
he plays yeah a stunt.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
Yeah, oh she can't fight him.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah. For us short kings out here, I always love
to see a represented you know, they said Russell Wilson
was in that class, and you know he was. He's
not a very big guy. He's not as mobile as
he used to be, but I really do. I pulled
for Kyler Murray and I just pulled up his stats.
His lowest quarterback rating for the season is an eighty
seven point two and its highest it's one hundred point six,

(08:28):
So we're going back to two for his career. He's
already got nineteen thousand plus yards, one hundred and fifteen touchdowns,
only fifty seven picks. So honestly, like, who wouldn't take that?
You're telling me if I'm the Jets, I would all day?
You don't you want a surprise? Look up Trevor Lawrence's stats,
and Trevor Lawrence is that miss prospect best prospect since

(08:49):
Andrew Low and his stats don't look like this.

Speaker 6 (08:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
Yeah, he's quietly doing some good in the background, you know,
and then some some Madonna quarters out there as well.
You know, like I think he's he's shutting up. He
learned his lessons the first couple of years, and you know,
he kind of quiet down, stopped the whole social media
stuff and just kind of put his head down and
went to work. And now it's starting to show. The

(09:15):
results are starting to show.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah yeah, and I hope so. I mean, I know
the big thing for him, uh not this past season,
but the off season prior to that, was him getting
that contract extension a year or two early. And you
know that was a big decision based on not only
the production, but he also has a huge hobby, which
I'm not going to knock him. I love Call of Duty,
but this guy loves Call of Duty. He's always alive

(09:40):
and it's his video game. But I thought to myself,
there are worse things a guy could be doing in
his off season time than sitting in front of his
game talking message. You know, he's not jefs skiing, he's
not trying to you know, he's not going to hurt
himself exactly. He's not riding a motorcycle like Ben Roethlisberger.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
Her so hurting this bank either. You know he could yeah, degenerate,
you know, he could be hurting, hurting himself.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, we saw that the video games.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
As long as he gets work done on the field,
man whatever, I just.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Go wait for him and Marvin Harrison connects once. Just
two guys being connecting, get a good chemistry going.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Oh man, they're gonna be scary.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
Scary yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
And then you got a beast of a tight end there.
I'm trying to think of his name off the top
of my head. The guys.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
I had a fantasy he's a beast yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Oh, a Rams fan picking up Cardinals players. That's you
just care about the money.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
That he knows where to get the winners.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
He's like I had Kyri Williams's okay ballas is out.

Speaker 6 (10:46):
I understand that.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Hey, look you're talking to a Broncos fan. I don't
bet on my team or against my team, and I
definitely don't touch him in fantasy because I don't want
that extra you know, heaviness like Cortland and drop that touchdown. Now,
I gotta hate my team for a week. I don't
want that. I don't do that to myself, you know
what I mean. So I understand there's a little bit

(11:09):
of loyalty, but at the end of the day, were
trying to get the money.

Speaker 6 (11:12):
Show me the money.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
No, that's you know. I know you like the drops, myyron,
you tell me like the commercials, but the drops they
make the podcast for me. I like that creativity. You see.
I got brother now. Every time he laughs, I gotta
take it and splice it and put it in there somewhere. Oh,
because it just cracks me up. So just going out,
we got to go to the dark side of the NFL.

(11:37):
Because Marian, we were talking on the phone a couple
of weeks back, and you brought up a really good point.
One of the reasons why I wanted to have you
on the podcast to talk about this because just the background,
you and your wonderful wife, Heidi are doing something most
football fans wish they could do, and that's visiting every
NFL stadium. Tell us about that. How did this idea

(11:58):
come about, and what's been your favorite stadium thus far
and what are you looking forward to seeing?

Speaker 5 (12:05):
Well, it came about for we're kind of like empty nesters,
so the kids kids left the house, you know, you
can go traveling to and do adult.

Speaker 6 (12:13):
Things on this gap.

Speaker 5 (12:15):
And the wife was like, well, she's like, I'll go
with you on the football games. And that was quite shocking,
and so we decided to not go to the same city,
you know, not not go to Arizona every time and
watch Arizona play. And so we said, why don't we
just try and hit up different cities across the US.

(12:36):
And at the same point, my wife also is in
real estate, so she has she has conferences in the
continent that we go to, and so we kind of
just said, well, why don't we just do it too
for one or you know, wherever your conference is, we'll
go and check out your conference, and then we'll do
my thing after your conference, which is go to a
football game. So we'll find the city closest to wherever

(12:59):
you're comfort and a football team is and check it out,
you know. That way, we kind of just and then
it would take us to stadiums and across America that
we wouldn't go to and kind of just broaden our
horizons without even knowing it. You know, like I would
have never I would never go to Kansas City just
on a whim. Or I'd never go to Wisconsin on

(13:20):
a whim. Sorry Wisconsin, but I'd never go there just
on a whim. But I'd go there for a football game,
you know, and check it out, you know. And so
that's kind of just I can kind of see America
with my wife, different stadiums and check it out, man.
And it's kind of cool, little cool, little quirky thing

(13:43):
that I got going on.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
That's nice.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
So that's awesome. That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yeah, Well, it was some advice for brother Noel because
he told me he's never been to see his Rams play.
We talked about it. I think this is episode eight
or nine. I told him he needs to do what
he needs to do to get out. So what about
some words in the curge? Is it worth it to
see a game in person?

Speaker 5 (14:04):
I'll tell you what, man, I did go to the
Rams last year, and you can find some bargain hunts,
you know, if you're willing to take that gamble. You
buy your ticket or you're playing ticket, and then you
buy your your your entry ticket into the stadium, the
football ticket later because you get people, you get people
on like I don't want to do any plugs geek

(14:26):
seats and stuff, but I can go over and you
can get some seats and stuff over there, and and
sometimes they sell them. You know, you'll have people that
have seasoned tickets and they're not going to go that weekend,
so you might score a really good deal on those
tickets and stuff. And yeah, that's how I do it.

(14:47):
And I'll tell you what, man, your you're rams the
most beautiful stadium I have been to yet.

Speaker 6 (14:53):
That thing, Yeah, it should be good.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
It is bananas. And actually the field is below the
ground that it's around, so you actually you go down
into the ground on that one, so half of it's
in the ground and half of it's out of the ground.
It's pretty dope. So like if you're if you're outside
l A and I mean if you're like Inglewood and
you're looking at it, you're like, wow, it doesn't look

(15:21):
that big. But when you get in there, dude, it
is huge because it's all down in the ground. It's
it's amazing. That place is Ram's by far, hands down
the best stadium around.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Wow. I know, I gotta go. I definitely gotta go. Out.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
You definitely gotta go, man. And and then that brings
me to the second point of like all of us
trying to go, you know, us working blue collar brothers.
It's getting hard nowadays. You know, like, I ain't gonna
press on these guys getting their paper. You know, I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna dog these you got at

(15:59):
your paper?

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (16:00):
Yeah, When these boys are getting paid forty million dollars
a year, that's coming out of somebody's pocket. And that
is the fans who are going to be paying a
lot more, you know, higher ticket prices to go to
these games.

Speaker 6 (16:13):
You know.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
And then it's like, so what is your target market
of who you're trying to hit, because pretty soon they're
all going to be executive boots, because that's the only
people that are going to be afford to go to
these games, just so that these owners can pay the
contracts that they're handing out to these fellows. Like I said,
I ain't giving them no dog. I ain't dog getting
no player for getting his paper. Get your paper, some

(16:35):
get it, but you are going to pay for that.
Who's gonna watch this? It'd be interesting to see how
that plays out.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
That's a good point. That's a good point. And I'm
actually just looking at how to pull it up myself
and just see what average ticket prices. If you look
at the entirety of the NFL, it's not bad. You know,
it's one hundred and twenty bucks for just on average
depending on the stadium. Right, But then you start looking
into the numbers. That's up eight point six percent sent
from the previous season, so that's only going up, not down.

(17:06):
And then you start really looking into the numbers. Okay,
who are the teams? The popular teams people want to
see for the average ticket price to get in to
see Jerry's world, which I'm sure is on your bucket
list one of these days. I want to see that
stadium three hundred and ninety nine.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Dollars, okay, come man.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
And then and then the Chiefs aren't far behind. So
I know the barbecue is good in Kansas City, but
for three hundred ninety one dollars a ticket, it better be.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
He was like, you got barbecued, bro.

Speaker 6 (17:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
And then here's one that was really shocking to me.
And I understand their recent success, but the Detroit Lions,
who are very openly saying like ticket prices are going up.
They're now third on the list, three hundred and eighty
two dollars on average for one of these tickets here
and then and then surprisingly the Bears right behind them
in fourth place with three hundred and seventy. So I
guess there's some historical context for that one, because they

(17:57):
are getting a new stadium on the tax pirate players dying.
As you mentioned earlier, it's always comes down to the
people who are paying for these billion dollars stadiums. But
they go for it, right, they go for it. They
they choose to do that. But then you're looking at it,
that's just a ticket, and you're talking that's a single ticket.
You're not talking about airfare, which you mentioned first, Miron.

(18:18):
You guys have to get off that rock to get
to where you're going. Okay, So you're talking two d
two hundred and fifty three hundred dollars sometimes one way,
all right. Then, of course you got to pay for
your accommodation, you got to pay for food, and then
you got to pay for parking at the stadium. So
on average for season ticket holders alone, you're thinking thirty
to sixty bucks. Okay, that's not bad. To park your

(18:40):
car for a couple hours, right but after market otherwise,
anywhere between fifty to one hundred and fifty bucks just
to park your car. Oh lord, And if you're in
a different city, you got a rental, you're going to
make sure that thing is protected. You are going to
park on site. Right. Well, let's just say, Hey, I'm
a football fan. I just want to be around. I
want to go to Green Bay, but I don't want
to sit on those bleachers. Just a tailgate on average

(19:02):
for four people, two hundred and ten dollars in twenty
twenty four just to tailgate. That's just to get in,
bring your own grill, your own beer, all that stuff.
So the point of this, this this tiret is prices
are only going up. So that goes to just what
you said, Myron. It's like you want to enjoy it
and you know, experience it. But like when I'm there,

(19:23):
I don't want to just eat popcorn and I want
to have hot dog. I want to have a beer.
I want to have you know, I want to get
a jersey, but the jersey is another ninety dollars on
top of that. And then I had to look this
up too, because I'm like, all right, what does a
hot dog and a beer cost? On average? Anywhere between
sixteen to twenty dollars for one hot dog and one beer?
And like the beard, the beer itself is fifteen. You're

(19:44):
gonna get the tall Boy. You're gonna sip and baby
that thing too, because you're not gonna you don't want
to get up and miss the game you just paid
three hundred dollars for. So it makes it really makes
me think about it, like who who is going to
be able to afford these things down the line? And like, brother,
now I do I want you to go? You work hard,
You and Summers work really hard, like you should go,

(20:05):
you know, into a Rams game. But I'm like, is
it gonna cost you your for a one k and
then some you know, just the.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Numbers that you telling me, it seems like I gotta
punch in to that for one k?

Speaker 3 (20:16):
You just saw adding up, Bro, I didn't even want
to add it up. I don't want you know, Okay,
I told you I got to go to a Niners
Cowboys game, and that's because Myron did what he did.
Got the tickets, you know, from season ticket holders that
are privileged enough to give them up, and uh, it
was a great time. It was wonderful, right, But yeah,
it cost a grip to go, and like, yeah, you

(20:38):
only live once and you don't take money with you,
which is why I encourage.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
You to go.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
But I mean, you've got to have money to be
able to do this, you know what I mean. So,
I don't know, it's just it's it's just nice to
be able to look at the figures and just realistically know.
But again, the way you couple it up, Hey, you
got to go for work anyway, Let's just go knock
it out. Let's just go see what we can go
see while it's still around to see. So that's that's

(21:03):
pretty dope.

Speaker 6 (21:04):
You know.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
I really when I when you when you told me
in Valerie that, I was like, that's that's the kind
of goals I'm trying to get after. And now it's
easier for me to do since I'm already on the mainland, right.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
Yeah, so on me bro.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, So that means instead of sitting at the very
top of the stadium, I can sit down in the
second part. But I still can't afford the hot dog
and the beer call bo, you know what I mean.
Valerie doesn't drink, so I can I can just have
the beer to myself instead of asking, hey, can I
get a water cup? So I can split this up first.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Quarter, second quarter, third quarter, stretch it out.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah, if we go to overtime, that's okay. I don't
have any more drink. I drink water from there. But
even still, a smart water is gonna cost me eight dollars,
you know what I mean. So, but no, that's that's
that's something else. I really appreciate the insight there. And
and brother in law, I hope you do go in,
but you know, we do have this is what the
end of March now, So we're coming up into April,

(22:00):
and this comes to the draft now, depending on obviously
where your team drafts. Right that there's some hot shots
coming up. But what are you guys hoping to see
for your teams? Are you trying to get the best prospect?
Are you just trying to get you know, fill the need? Brother? No,
your team was very active. We talked about it last
week or week before last. You guys have been active

(22:22):
in free agency, whereas the Cardinals have not. They've since
they haven't done really anything. And so I just want
to hear your thoughts on that.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Oh, like you said, we've been active and I just
hopefully we just grab more for depth because we are,
like like we were mentioned last week, it is a
young team and the more depth we got, the better
and hopefully maybe line, d line, maybe offensive line. I'm

(22:52):
looking for more on the offensive line because we do
need depth on the offensive line.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
That's pretty strange because you know everybody wants to hot
sexy picked that like, not give me the speed guy,
give me, give me the flashy tight end Colston out
of Michigan. And here you are saying offensive line. But
I guess you do have a thirty seven year old
quarterback to protect, and you just reinvested in that wide
receiving corps so I could see that young Karen Williams
still and then and then you have who's who's the

(23:21):
Who's Who's Who's the running back you guys took out
of Michigan last year didn't get much time? Yeah, Blake right,
So hopefully he takes them spending.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Image of Karen Williams. So at the end on the season,
I think he broke his forearm. Hopefully give me back
in there, Like like you said, debt, you'll be he's
he's he's the dead guy. Karen is gonna get all
the touches, his majority of it. And we've seen that
last year, and hopefully he can get more more touches
because I see Blake car he has the he has

(23:53):
a little nice twitch to his game and yeah, the
little juke stuff.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
He reminds me me of Maurice joll Drew remember here
for the Jacksonville Jabar muscle hamster. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:10):
And you guys quietly got Adams too, right, Davante?

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (24:15):
Was it Quiete?

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Davonte is like, I just want to play football. I
just wanted to I just want to fall.

Speaker 6 (24:27):
You know what, here's a quiet.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Here's the thing about Davonte. I think Davante was looking
at his at the end his NFL mortality. And here's
what I mean by that. In Green Bay, we're watching
him with one of the best quarterbacks ever for years.
No doubt you would say he's a Hall of Fame
wide receiver, right, just like we talked about Larry Fitz earlier.
But now with the last two stints, with one being

(24:54):
the Raiders and then the Jets, I'm not so sure
he is a future Hall of Famer, just based on
the numbers compiled and then production, I'm looking at a
guy more like Mike Williams, who's now ten eleventh Mike Williams,
Mike Evan, excuse me, who's had you know, a ten
straight season of a thousand yards like consistently.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
There even through insistently.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Over Davante Adams. Right, but I mean what I mean,
what are your thoughts? Obviously the guy's still talented. You
just mentioned his contract, and he's getting another chance with
a proven quarterback, quarterback that's gone to a super Bowl
on one So can he rebound? I'm sure he's still
got some in the tank, but we'll see. Yeah, I'd

(25:36):
have to see it to believe it, you know what
I mean. And then you got he's not even gonna
be the number one option because Puka should you know,
rebound somebody who won't.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
I think they're gonna compliment each other and health.

Speaker 6 (25:49):
Yeah, well.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
I think they're gonna each other on see, they're gonna
say less double team. He's gonna who he's gonna double team?
You know?

Speaker 2 (26:00):
The other guy should be open hopefully, And I think
we're gonna start using the running game more to open
up the passing.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Sean McVay don't want to run the ball, Come on, man,
you don't want to.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Gurley, he was one of the most offense this man.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
He did, he did. They had a top five offense
in in an NFL.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
History, Right, that came off off of the run.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Now you know where Todd Gurley is right now? Right,
he's working at Yeah, he's working at Taco Bell for
Davonte Adams and his commercial. So I'm not I'm not hate.
I love Todd Gurley, Georgia boy. Right, I love a
good running back. And you're right they needed him that season.
If a Kyle Williams could take that kind of step

(26:48):
and be a dual threat, sure you guys might finish
second in the West behind the Seahawks. But yeah, you
see what you see? Hey, you got you got Sad
the Dog, Darnold up and there. Now you got Jackson
Smith and Jibu. Now look, I'm not honestly, if I'm

(27:09):
looking at it right now, I think the Rams are
in the top in the NFC West. I think the Niners,
depending on what they do, looks like they might be
paying brock perty. I think it'd be a mistake to
get him, you know, all the money in the world
because of see all the departures they had in the
off season, but at this point they're kind of handicapped, right.
It's like you basically got to pay him fifty to

(27:30):
fifty five million a season.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Him the money, and he does have the proven record.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
I've been on this podcast saying I do like brock
perty I just got to see him play live. You know,
he's got he's got all the tools to be successful.
I just don't believe in Kyle Shanahan as you know,
you know, get off my team.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah, And then and.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
Then I think, I think, of course, the Cardinals are
always there to see how they do in this draft
and addressing the needs. And then I think the Seahawks
will finish down down below. But when we look at
to a Broncos fan, I was over here saying, my
team's one, nine to seven, missing the playoffs last year,
and they snuck in. I think we're gonna I think

(28:09):
we're gonna finish third. I'm just being real on this podcast.
I would say another nine and seven, ten and six.
You know, bow Knicks takes another step. But Sean Payton
is gonna handicap us, and uh, that's that's my record.
I'm putting it on the record here on three thirty,
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
It's kind of hard on my all good that defense got.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Yeah, yeah, no, defense is dope, and you know, defense
does win championships. But when you can't move the ball
and you're constantly going three and out and you've got
a decent rookie quarterback that you're asking to do too
much and it's got no intermediate passing game even though
an offensive guru coach, shoot Bowl winning coach, you know,
is the help I just I get. And then you

(28:48):
let jawontaon Williams go to the Cowboys. So sure, maybe
Esta may is gonna break out and have the season.
I honestly didn't think he got enough touches last year
to really show us that much. So maybe they're gonna,
you know, pick a some running back in the draft,
But are we really going to be relying on a
rookie running back and a second year quarterback to take
us to the Promise Land. It's not likely. Just looking

(29:09):
at Pats right.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
Just looking at that, Yeah, that's just me.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
I'm just I'm real, and I think being a fan.
Say we talk about investing your time and energy and
money into this, you need to be real looking at it.
You brother, No, you told me about that Browns fan.
This is you.

Speaker 6 (29:25):
This is what.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Disappointment. Yeah, I'd rather I'd rather be surprised down the
line and be like, Okay, they showed me a little something.
Let me jump on the podcast and talk about it.
Versus My hopes are through the ceiling and then slowly
I'm coming down stadium. Well, look, let's let's take a

(29:50):
quick commercial break, and when we come back, I want
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where your team is left in the regular season. Let's
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(32:17):
taking time out of your Sunday here and NFL talk
was great, but now we're gonna move to the National
Basketball Association. And I just gotta say this season has
actually been more entertaining than I thought it would be,
especially if you're a Bulls fan. Sorry, if you're a
Lakers fan, how come your team can't beat the Bulls.
What's going on? You lost to the Bulls two times

(32:39):
and let's look at you.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
I have no explanation.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
Yeah, I don't even know where the Bulls are.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Trump to get this guy off the podcast, he's like,
who's Jordan? Oh my goodness, No, I understand. That's what
most people are saying. And if we when we talked
and we looked at the schedule, brother, now and you
were looking now saying, oh, we got wins on wins

(33:11):
coming down, there's only at that point, you know, less
than twenty games left. And now looking at the West,
the West is tight. They beat they beat what John
Morrett and the Memphis Grizzlies who just fired their coach,
Tarlon Jenkins, and they barely beat them last night, but
they needed that because they had lost that game, they
would have slipped down back down to the fifth seed.

(33:33):
And yeah, the West is so Lebron Luca and Austin Reeves,
who's had a sub I mean his last ten games
have been just ridiculous. You think they're prime to make
a run in the West or what?

Speaker 1 (33:47):
That's what we really need Reeves.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
He just stepped up big time and hope he can
step up to in the playoffs or for the push
to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
We need that third guy. I'm not a big lebron chad,
and you.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Know, don't don't let Stephen Ager you say that break
you on the show. Not a big fan, but he
scored forty forty two thousand points in the regular season
lebron guy. All right, well, let me ask you as
far as the subject, who is mister Laker to you?

(34:21):
Is it Magic? Is it Kareem? Is it Kobe? Rest
in peace?

Speaker 1 (34:26):
I grew up in magic when I was young.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
My uncle was religiously watching magic every every time he
could so, and I grew up on the bird and
magic bravery, so that got intense. Yeah, magic for me.
I love you, Mama, rest your piece, but magic.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
All right? All right, well what about you, Marion? I
don't know actually, First of all, do you have an
Internet NBA team? I don't know, if you, I'm not
too much.

Speaker 5 (34:52):
I like I watch it for sports. You know. I'm
a diehard NFL fan, gotcha, But I like the I
like the NBA, and I like the players that they
got going on. I'd say, you know, like the greatest
player of all time. There's a beef between Magic and Jordan.
To me, I don't know. I thought I thought Magic

(35:16):
was more of a team player and maybe Jordan was
more of a self player. That's just how I thought.
I thought the distribution of Magic Johnson and what he
did on he made everybody better. Don't get me wrong,
Jordan's made everything better as well, you know, but through
and through, you know, I look at a guy like

(35:36):
a Larry's when you know, just iconic, dude. I don't
think behind the closed doors there was that kind of
nostalgia behind the closed doors of the Bulls than it
was a locker room.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
You know, understandable, and you're right. They both made their
team better, but in very different ways. Jordan had a
more abrasive, in your face kind of approach, yea, and
Magic John's really just wanted everyone to play at their
best and put people in a great position. I mean, yeah,
and young people listening to this, who I mean, I

(36:09):
really didn't get to see you know, Magic play at all, right,
but the YouTube is a wonderful thing. You'd look at
some of these highlights and the young kids say, oh,
Lebron would score fifty in this in the in the
eighties and all that they were playing against, you know,
Carpenters and and whatnot. But not only was it's just
a different game back then, but people, I mean guys

(36:31):
like Akim Olajawan dominant, right, young Shaquille O'Neal Right, you
mentioned Magic Johnson's passing ability was just superb. Like he
would do real no looks like not the peak and
then go like this guy's throwing the ball behind his head.
He was a showman, like you would think they would
pick him up off of the Harlem Globetrotters and drop

(36:53):
him into the lake. And that's what he was doing,
which is crazy because I remember just thinking like I
can't even palm a basketball, and this guy's over here,
just with the facial expressions and just making it look
just so.

Speaker 5 (37:06):
I did like the physicality too. I did like the
physicality which the NBA I think has lost. You know,
it was almost a no blood, no foul kind of
a deal back in the eighties. You know, I loved
watching the playoffs every year and seeing the Detroit Pistons,
the bad boys. They were bad, man, those fours were.
And you know there was one player that I always

(37:28):
looked for was Bill Lamb because that guy always had
a face mask on because somebody broke his nose for
talking to Mad Junk. That's just the way it goes,
you know. It's like Bill Lambier always, and you know,
I'm not He was just a tall, big old white

(37:50):
boy and you come in, you coming in the paint,
and he's going to show you what's up. You ain't
coming in the paint no more, you know, you just
you just don't drive in the paint because you're gonna
get your face paint. And it's coming in there too,
you know. And I kind of missed that nostalgia of
old basketball.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
You know.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
Now you even sneeze on Lebron James and he's looking
for a foul. It's just what what do you call it?

Speaker 3 (38:12):
The flop James?

Speaker 6 (38:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Man, And I look, I get it. I understand. Like
this area is different, right. You guys are a little
bit older than I am. But the game has changed.
Like I missed the early two thousands of ball when
it wasn't as physical as is the eighties nineties ball.
You guys mentioning, but you still have paint presence. Right,
It wasn't layup lines, it wasn't just you know, five

(38:36):
out on the wing and there's a three parter, like
the three points percentage is it's ridiculous nowadays. And it's
easier to score in the paint now than ever, which
for a guy like Lebron James who runs downhill is
bulldozing his whole career, it is easy for him to,
you know, to get two buckets, like take nothing away.
Forty two thousand points in the regular season is an

(38:57):
amazing thing, right, But.

Speaker 5 (39:00):
I mean, like, but see if Lebron, if Lebron was
coming in the paint to a guy like Bill Lambert,
he'd respect that paint a little bit more because Bill
Lambiert just would throw out a forearm right across his
neck and be like try that again.

Speaker 6 (39:11):
But yeah, you.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
Ain't getting no freebies, Like I'll let you fly, but
I'm gonna chop your legs on the way in. And
that's just respect. You're gonna have respect for me the paint,
you know. And and now Lebron can do that because
everybody's scared to follow you follow you're gonna get a technical,
you know, a flagrant. And before, like in the eighties,
flagrant that was blood, that was knuckles and fists punching

(39:39):
that was a you know, nowadays you shove him a
little bit too much and you're getting a flagrant. So
you know, guys like that Lebron can have the paint
because they know they can't get fouled.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Yes, yeah, I mean that's spoken from true fandom. You
guys have been there through and through and honestly, like
the the essence of the game hasn't changed that much.
You still five guys on the court for each team.
That the object is to put the ball in the basket.
But how you put the ball in the basket it
has changed. And you look at the viewership it is down,

(40:14):
which you think nowadays with the league making as much
money as it is, more money than it ever has
Adam Silver looking for new ways to make the game innovative.
I just look no further than the All Star Game.
Why do you have to incentivize these professional players, you
know so much for them to put on a show
for the fans without us going back to the first

(40:34):
hour of the show, paying our good money. You don't
have these enormous contracts. There isn't these TV deals that
allow you to make so much money. And so, like
we're talking about Lebron here for him to bow out
two hours before the All Star Game. Not only did
you not relinquish that spot to someone who else was deserving,
but it's more of like one of those moments where

(40:55):
you're like, this guy is a me guy, not a
WE guy. This is not it's not the team's sport,
and this this is this is why, you know, people
are just kind of falling off a lot of people
are not tuning into the NBA until right about now,
you know, And I used to be one of those guys.
I'm like, well, I don't want to see Patty Cake
for eighty two games right here. I'd like to see
in the playoffs where they actually play one hundred percent.

(41:16):
And you know, there's a human component. That's why people
like the college game March madness. I've watched a little
bit of March Madness. I'm still not huge into like,
you know what I mean, Like, it's not a big
thing to me. By the no you mentioned if you
don't have a bracket on it, you're like, all right, cool,
Auburn's playing Michigan State later, Okay, you know what I mean.
And there's been some drama, there's been some you know,

(41:38):
you know, last second buzzer beaters that get Purdue in Houston.
You know this last night, But again, it doesn't really
move the needle for me, So I'm not going to
invest my time and energy into it.

Speaker 5 (41:48):
Yeah, that's a lot. That's a big Tournament's sixty four teams.

Speaker 6 (41:51):
You know that's.

Speaker 5 (41:53):
In himself and you got to watch a pretty much
a whole two NBA two NBA team works of teams
competing in a tournament, and it can be a bit
much to just be like control all of that. That's
sixty four teams that you have to break down and
you have to learn for a tournament. That's a lot
of the teams.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Yeah, and I get the alma mater thing if you
went to the school and you that's your thing. But
I'm like like, okay, like I went to high school.
You think I'm gonna go there on a Friday night
and go to the high school football game if I
don't have anybody I know playing, Like no, Like.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
No, I never understood that.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
And then then let's be real. Universities Colleges are businesses. Okay,
you pay a lot of moneys, still learn the colors,
still own student loans. You know what I mean, so
it's like I think it's it's severely overblown, and I
think if you take out the gambling aspect, it's not
as big as it is. Right, If the fans don't

(42:52):
have brackets, and there's not people saying I'm doing this
ten dollars buying, twenty dollars buying, and you have ten
different brackets and fifteen different TVs to watch, I think
it's just another one of those American marketing ploys. And
it's like nobody, nobody cares about college basketball when it's
not March Madness. That's the big point I made. Nobody cares, right, So.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
They only play in March, right, just for the big show.

Speaker 6 (43:19):
That's what they're playing for, Just a big show.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Why do they even have the rankings? Why do they
even have and you know, you have people listening. I
know r J is a big March Madness guy, you know,
but again he had the college experience. You know, he's
he's gonna be different. Yeah, I did. I went to
you and r before they asked me politely to leave.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
I was there, but.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
I'm not gonna go wolf BG. You know, especially not
in Vegas.

Speaker 7 (43:47):
Man.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
They take that seriously, like yeah, back in un l
But again, like, let the kids be kids, you know
what I mean? I so often you just it's a
story that's not even the game that you have to
look and see about, Like, oh, I just lost can
I take my name plate? This is cool? And it's
like shit, I go to algebra class. I'm just I'm

(44:09):
just a hater because I can't dribble with my left hand.
But like, let's let's move on. You guys are a
little bit older than me, so I'd love to hear
your take on this. We lost a boxing legend and
George Foreman back on the twenty first, so it was
nine days ago, and I just I just want to,
you know, hear what he meant to you guys. I mean,
I'm not huge into boxing. I'm getting more into it

(44:32):
nowadays than I ever have been. But boxing itself has
been on a downturn in the last ten years with
the emergence of M M A and other entities in
the UFC. But George Foreman, one of the best ever
passed away. What what do you guys think? What do
you remember about him when you hear that name? Brother?
And now I'll start with you, what comes to mind?

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Legend.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
What are the legends is when you beat my Michael Moore,
nobody thought he was gonna win.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
I didn't thought he was gonna win. Old man George
rolling up and there in his.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Wheelchair, You better get your stuff together, man and making
a playoff front Breck.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
He prove us wrong.

Speaker 7 (45:13):
Man.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
And that's the mindset that he is. You know, Oh, man,
he's a fighter.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
I get that, and I see that because you're right
at that point he had retired and then had a
ten year hiatus before coming back in right, you know,
So so I understand at that time you're thinking, like George,
just maybe it's just time to just you know, hang
him up. But uh, but he shocked the world. And
you know, he's well renowned as one of the top

(45:40):
ten punchers of all time, in fact, number nine according
to the Ring but a two time heavyweight champion and
Olympic champion. Back in the sixty eight Summer Olympics, you know,
meeting Lyndon B. Johnson there in the White House, that
was that was huge. That was big time because you know,
blacks weren't still widely accepted by this country in the sixties,

(46:01):
and you know, for someone to come represent the United
States and bring home a gold medal, and you know,
to meet the president at that time was a big deal.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
So what about you, Myron? What do you think when
you when you hear George Foreman was the first thing
that comes to mind. Big.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
He was huge. That that was a massive animal, and
behind that punch came all of that weight. You know,
he knew how to swing that weight. Dead Man was
ninety seven and ten I believe, ninety seven wins and
ten losses, eighty two eighty two by knockout, and he

(46:45):
only lost one match out of ten by a knockout.
So only one dude knocked this guy out, you know
what I mean? Like that is legendary and to be fighting,
to be fighting as late as he did, I think
he fought in mid forties.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
Yeah, yeah, years old.

Speaker 5 (47:09):
Yeah, I want to say, yeah, he fought into his
mid forties and that is iconic to be doing that.
You know, and you imagine you're a twenty two year
old you just got your butto forty four year old
knocked out?

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Was that was Patrick Mahomes against Tom Brady a few
years back then? Huh, that was Brady? Ask what he's
doing the goat.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
He beat the goat twice. That's Tom Brady's daddy be
talking about right there.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
But yeah, now, honestly, it really is amazing. And I
had to jump in and look into his career and
just see because obviously this was before my time. I mean,
he retired finally in nineteen ninety seven. But I'm seven
years old, so I don't really understand what it is.
I'm comprehending. But George Foreman, I mean, Big George as
they call it, I had to look into it, dropped
out of high school at age fifteen, eventually got it.

(48:00):
G ed carpenter brick layer, you know, obviously one of
the big fights that really put him on the map
beating Joe Fraser in nineteen seventy three. Yeah, you know,
And then you mentioned like his losses, like his first
professional loss came by some guy named Muhammad Ali.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
And you think about that, You're like, it took a
Muhammad ad Leid type talent to stop this guy. And
even then you stop him temporarily because you know, he
he had other entities outside of the ring, right, became
a pastor and you know, just you know, found a
different way of life. Obviously he's got a lot of children, right,
They's come up and then jump back into the game.

(48:41):
But to answer the question I asked you, guys, I mean,
I'm really just I hear George forman grill and I'm like, oh,
I know that guy.

Speaker 6 (48:47):
You know.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
In fact, it reminds me of this episode. I don't
know you guys, know you guys ever watched the show
King of the Hill. Yeah, it's a great show. So
I remember, like King of the Hill based a half
people on there. I saw sneath Dog on there. He
was a pamp and all that, and then one of
these episodes they had George Foreman on there. So let
me let me pull up this clip. See if this
pulls up right here.

Speaker 6 (49:08):
So, how did you feel about carrying Mike grilling your shop?

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (49:14):
Sorry, we have a strict policy about that.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
No novelty grills. Novelty grill. Hey you calling his man
a novelty grill? You called it what it is. Call
it what it is. I don't know. I thought those
were great. You didn't You didn't really know how to grill.

(49:37):
You're just kind of getting your foot in the door.
The think was portable and you could take it anywhere,
easy to clean. So, you know, rest in peace to
the legend George Foreman. You know, we just definitely like
to you know, he.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
Knew how to diversify his money and make his money
work for him. He didn't know grills, but he had money,
so he believed in an investment and they threw his
name on it because he had the money for it,
you know. Yeah, And you got to give that man credit.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
That a lot of these athletes don't know how to
do nowadays is when they're done playing football or basketball,
they broke. Yeah, they don't know how to reinvest their
money and make their money work for them when when
they're no longer working, you know, so true.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
So true point. Yeah, And he ended up he ended
up selling the rights to that grill and making one
hundred and thirty eight million dollars off of the rights.
Show me his family.

Speaker 5 (50:32):
Yes, he just put his name on it and sold
his name with the grill.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
And that's it.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
And here here's the thing. I did just quick search
because I heard a rumor about this story, but I
had a confirment. So George Foreman wasn't even the first
person they approached about this grill.

Speaker 5 (50:46):
You know what it was.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
It was Hulk Hogan and he declined it. He declined it.
He thought that he thought it was beneath him. And
uh but yeah, honestly, yeah, he's over here saying, oh no,
like man, how much money that he walked away? Now,
Old Cogan is just a just a steroid driven bigot

(51:08):
in my Okay, I don't cared about that, you know
what I mean? Oh Lord, get them out of here.
I might now got to put an episode of The
Simpsons on. You sound just like the duff Man. That's
gonna be one of those drops I get. So I'm
gonna clip that. We're gonna ad Myron in the next episode.

(51:31):
Oh no, you know, well, gentlemen, look, and the last
topic I just want to hit today. I don't want
to take up too much your Sunday is we mentioned
the MLB is back. Take me out to the ball game,
Take me out to the Crown. Major League Baseball man

(51:55):
his debut obviously for the Dodgers, who debuted overseas in Japan. Uh,
huge promo tour over there. Uh they've they've already started
the season now five and oh but man, it's been
exciting and if you think about these big market teams,
the Dodgers and Yankees, who are now two and zero
as well smacking home runs. I think they had a
season excuse me, a stup, excuse me, the most home

(52:19):
runs ever hit in the game by their entire history
of their franchise, with eight home runs came yesterday and
so and that's attributed to these new bats. Have you
guys seen this story about the torpedo bats they have. Yep,
it's a genius. I think if it's within the rules,
this is why this is the positives to the analytics,

(52:40):
they're saying, Oh, well, if we just shift the amount
of wood down the bat a little bit, you could
turn some of those bloopers into base hits, you can
turn some of those singles into doubles. And obviously the
home runs are just flying off the bat. So what
do you think fair game or not? You think they're
smart for doing in this or is this something that

(53:01):
other teams maybe I could see doing.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Uh well, I'm guessing the more offense get getting the
viewers a lot more getting the higher, higher scores, you know,
And I think that's the only reason why they're bringing
this bats along. And my daughter used to play for
softball and they used to have that that ghost bats.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
It just pops right off of those.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
Bats and it creates more runs and more excitement to
the game.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
I think.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
So you're all for it.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
I'm for it.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
Okay, what about you, Byron?

Speaker 5 (53:37):
I'm for it for today's action. Maybe if we go back.
I'm a little old school. So all these guys who
have worked hard to knock those home runs on those
old bats and hold those records, maybe you might have
to put the asterisk. We might be in the asterisk
world as we move into records, you know what I mean.
You gotta get credit.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 5 (53:59):
Yeah, you got to give credit where credit is due.
You know, Like those guys did it on a different bat.
You know, so if you're changing up the bat, you're
changing up the ball, you're changing up the way the
field runs. There has to be some kind of compensation
or respect.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
You know.

Speaker 5 (54:16):
They just have to go back and pay some respect
to the founding fathers who have laid the foundation for
this game and be like, well, these guys did it
with this bat. These guys broke the record with this
new and improved bat. No, no, no, digs against that
new bat no digs against the new technology. But you
got to give credit due to the old the old

(54:37):
school guys. You know, I always.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Definitely give me a good point, mane that's a good point, man.

Speaker 5 (54:43):
Yeah, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, you got
a faster shoot that guys should be running faster. But
you know what I mean, like you bring those guys
back from the old school. You know what, what would
it be? I just look at that. If you gave
that old school, that legend the tools that we have
today to produce, what would he have done in his

(55:04):
time too? Just don't forget about that good point.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Answer. He should be a car salesman or something.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
No, no, no, it's on the record here, I've got it.
This is why we hit record. And I'm just kidding
you can all look, that's the thing why we do
this podcast because conversations like this happened in barbershops and
in people's living rooms all the time. The only d
we're taking the time to put it on the record, right,
we put it like there's nothing there's no shame of
being wrong when it's what you believe at the time.

(55:39):
And Myron, you make a good point. There's a lot
of guys in Cooper's Cooperstown, New York and the Hall
of Baseball Hall of Fame that would say absolutely, think
about the late Pete Rose, what would he do with
this technology? Right? Yeah, yeah, and you know it's it
is good. I don't know if we necessarily need to
move into the asterisks because you kind of open up
a can of w's. I won't say where because Valley

(56:00):
doesn't like it, because then you start looking at the
steroid error. Okay, you yeah, who saved the game? Who
saved the game in the late nineties, early two thousands,
but who are now vilified and denied the chance at
the Hall of Fame because of what they were doing.
And you know, Bonds was named in the Balcover report,
but he never tested positively for it. He will never

(56:22):
see the Hall of Fame, right, His time is gone
for that. I think there's lots of guys in the
Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooper's Down, New York that
are seeing, Wow, New York, they already have that short
right field after double check, but now they have this
competitive advantage with this bat here. And this is to
me kind of similar to just a couple of seasons

(56:44):
ago when they were trying to there was to think
about juicing the balls. Baseballs are flying out of stadiums,
remember that, and it was it never was confirmed, but
it's like, I get that you want more excitement in
the sport, but like baseball is America's pastime, right, you
have to be on touch. Some things need to be
you know, as they were. That's the tradition. Baseball sells

(57:05):
more tickets than every other sport combined. And I think
when you mess around and you change it too much,
you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, well so so I don't
know if I could bet because you know, you know,
I'm in Las Vegas when they go play the Yankees
go play in Colorado, which you know they're at elevation
that ball flies further. I mean, like, oh yeah, am
I just naturally betting the over because I know about

(57:27):
these specialty tornado bats and I know about the altitude.
I'd be a fool to take the under, right, Yeah, yeah,
we'll see that's what games now. Now. I'm interested, but
I am, I'm interested. I'm really glad baseball season is back.
By the no, you really got me watching more as
you are a huge Dodgers fan, and I really started

(57:48):
they when they're on I'll see you. Are they playing
the Angels? Like how well do they play the Padres
which are right behind them at three and out?

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Mind you?

Speaker 3 (57:55):
Like, yeah, guys started out five or no, but the
Padres are right behind you. And one player I was
happy to see have some success already was Mookie Bets.
I really like Mookie Bets. Two time World Series champion,
one with Red Sox and again with your yea Dodgers.
And he did something amazing with that walk off home
run just last night, night before last, and uh yeah,

(58:18):
And I thought that was amazing because you know, he
was battling some sort of illness in the off season.
I mean he was down from one seventy five to
one fifty seven. I'm like, he's not a big guy already,
so for him to have that kind of success there,
I thought that was pretty cool. But let's hear how
that sounded.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
I like the balls on this guy.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
I mean, even if you're not a huge baseball fan, like, man,
how do you not get chicken skins hearing that? You know, like,
if you that's what you want, you know what I mean?
Like a walk off and the forward home at the
home team and from a favorite. You know, Freddy Freeman
is already getting busy. Aaron Judge for the Yankees is
already getting busy. They went back to back to back.

(59:13):
I think he had three home runs in his game yesterday.

Speaker 5 (59:15):
It was like nine dingers, I believe, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
Yes, so yeah, So, I mean we're back, and honestly,
like I really, I'm dedicating this. We do have some
listeners that are really into baseball. I'm gonna try to
do what I can to learn about that. And a
little bit of hockey. Well we'll see how I go.
No hockey on the Islands.

Speaker 5 (59:41):
Dodgers are great. Man like that show here.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
Like a lot of people, I'm all in on the
hype with him.

Speaker 5 (59:48):
Fifty home runs and fifty are stolen. Yeah, that's pretty amazing.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
First in MLBA history to do that. Now, let me
ask you this. I'll ask you first, Myron, because I
think I know by the nose stance, but he did.
He had a prolific season last season. You just mentioned
the fifty and fifty. Do you want to see him
back on the mound this season? Obviously he's already had
two elbow severe elbow injuries, one of which was Tommy

(01:00:12):
John I think is that confirmed?

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Brother?

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Now? Yeah, do you want to see him on the
mound this season? I mean, you are paying him seven
hundred million dollars if I'll just take it, would you
rather just take him back?

Speaker 5 (01:00:25):
If I'm a fan, yeah, I'd like to see him
on the mound. If I'm a businessman cutting that check
seven hundred million dollars, maybe not so much. Maybe I'll
just use you to put the balls out on offense
instead of on defense. You know what I mean. I'm
going to put you out there on offense and not
risk all. You know, you're going to burn the midnight

(01:00:45):
oil on that guy. If you want him to produce
both sides of the ball, you know, you want him
to pitch and you want him to have hit dingers. Yeah,
I don't know. I think I'd prove I wouldn't put
that much money into my basket, into that basket, and
I would have spread it out so I could have
had a prolific picture, you know, so he wouldn't have
to do all of it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
And Dodgers do have some pretty good pitching, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Yeah, and we got Sasaki off, so we got all
the other pitches that we brought in and.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
We did be successfully with a timey just being a DH.
So don't don't. Don't fix what it's not broken, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
Yeah, no, good point, good point. Well, okay, so here's that.
Now what I got you guys, since you're both in
agreement switching the sport back to football, we have a
phenom in Travis Hunter, right wide receiver, quarterback out of Colorado.
Was not allowed to participate as both at the Combine,
in fact, chose not to participate in the Combine. But
on the NFL level, if you're he's probably gonna go

(01:01:45):
top three, top five in the draft, do you allow
him to play both offense and defense because he can. Right,
He's shown no no signs. He did got a little
bit injured last season, but six he's got a solid
frame to be success full in both is he's built
more like a o Cho Senko Chad Johnson for the
wide receiver. And as for a corner being six to one,

(01:02:07):
that's that's those long arms. That's a lot of rains. Right.
So if you're the GM of say the Patriots or
say the Giants who are thinking about drafting his kid,
do you allow him to play both ways to see
if he can He's been successful at all three levels. Brother, No,
I'll start with you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Wait, well, what are you drafting him as as the receiver?

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
You're the GM. You're the GM. Exactly, He's the He's
the only guy in the draft. I mean we're talking
like Deon Sanders did this back in the nineties, right,
and yeah, a little bit from Desmond Howard, you know,
but but I mean, no one's been on this level.
This guy wanted to belit Nkoff Award for the best
wide receiver and the best defensive back. It's so so
I'm saying, you are the GM, you draft him for

(01:02:49):
whatever position, do you let him play both ways to
see if he can do it? Or are you taking
myrons approach with Showhey and saying I'd rather lock down
one side and just do that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Yeah, well, if you're gonna draft him as a receiver, definitely,
he's one of the best best players coming out of
the draft. I think athletically, you know, like like Dionne said,
we never did see talent like this in a long time.
Put him put his name, like we both with with
dion you know, I would love to see him play receiver.

(01:03:21):
He heals a dog with anybody's receiver. But don't get
me wrong, I'll put him like maybe special packages for
a receiver if you're gonna draft him as as a cornerback,
using him as for your defense like Dion was, he has,
he had package plays on Cordell Stewart.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
Randall l He heals the do tread. Yeah, yeah, I'll
definitely put him in.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Put him in offense, you know, their own packages like
wildcat and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
So sparingly. You're not thinking every dawn like how he's
doing in Colorado, never missing. You're thinking spare What about you? Mark?

Speaker 5 (01:03:59):
Yeah, I think so too, Like I like what brought
No says. I think i'd keep him on the defense
and then just every once in a while, you know,
you want to confuse that the other defense throw him
in there, you know, give him offensive packages, you know,
And because I don't, I don't think I want to
keep him as a full time receiver and then just

(01:04:21):
a special package back. I think I think if you're
to play both positions, I think you can play offense sparingly,
but I think you need to be on the defense
all the time. You know what I mean, just that
speed check. That's the way I see it. If I
did it, I would play him both ways, but on

(01:04:41):
special packages. On offense, he would be a full time
defensive back.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Interesting, Okay, so.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
He's like one of those corners, like you said, exactly,
he can understand the receiver because he played the receiver position.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Good point. You're right, And that's it. When you are
a student of the game and you do study, you
see that like defensive backs. As a former defensive back myself,
I feel like that was the most difficult physical position
there because you have to match the speed and athleticism in.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
These water seats.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Yes, if you know, you had to be a little
quicker on the draw, and you got to be a
ball hawk to get to the spot before they do.
And then not only that, you know, defensive backs are
typically more undersized, right, Like I'm five ten, one seventy,
but this guy six right, long, lanky, has ball skills, change,
change the direction. I believe he can do it all.
And if I'm the GM, I'm saying, show us, you

(01:05:32):
know what I mean, show us that that we've got
this prolific talent that is going to be a game
changer that people are saying, Man, maybe we shouldn't have
taken cam Ward with the Titans pick. Maybe maybe we
shouldn't have gone Shoudure it too, or Abdual Carter out
of Penn State right with the Browns. We'll see. I mean, honestly,
I really do. I enjoy the draft, and see when

(01:05:53):
you come up, it's all hearsay because guys don't pan out. Right,
You got guys that get drafted high that don't. And
then you have guys like you mentioned and Karen Williams
was third fourth round pick. Right, you can find Golden
fIF or.

Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
You can find mister revelevant. You know, you know what
I mean, you get party in there. You just never know.
Or Brady, you know, they weren't all those top ten,
number one, you know, round one draft picks. And that's
why we loved the draft, because you never know that
Jim could just polish out in the NFL, or that
Gem could have had his time in college ball. And

(01:06:26):
you know what I mean, the shine on that gym
has gone away when he's gone into a different realm.
You never know a taking.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
Shots at Tim tebow Man, why are you doing that?
Drafted I've been take not gonna take an on his
behalf a different time. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 5 (01:06:46):
I think one of the worst worst draft picks ever
was sorry people, the Marcus uh JaMarcus Russell.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Yeah, Marcus, Well so him, I put him up there.
He's one more up there who had all the talent,
who had all the glam, but didn't have any of
the work ethic And admittedly so was Johnny Football Johnny Manziel.
Oh yeah, Now you talk about somebody that was exciting,
somebody who you just thought, wow, like you're bringing a
different dynamic to the game. But admittedly so his career

(01:07:18):
watched off because he was not willing to put in
the work, like zero film study. And if you're not willing,
going back to the Kyler Tyler Murray topic we had earlier,
if you're not willing to put in the work, it
will show on Sundays. Because everybody runs four or four,
everybody has a huge vertical.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
It's different. It's different in the NFL level.

Speaker 5 (01:07:38):
Yeah, yeah, everybody is putting in the work. And when
you don't put in your work, it's gonna show.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
It's gonna show, definitely, and we see it. We don't
miss it. On Sundays when you you look at a
player and you're like, wow, we missed on that one.
Like it's I think it's such a bad feeling when
there's a lot of hype for a first round pick
and you think that's going to be a savior your team,
and not only do they underperform form, but they just play,
you know what I mean. That's that's abilitating, especially if

(01:08:05):
you went and bought the jersey or draft them on
your fantasy team. So, but brother, say, this has been
a great episode. I'm gonna let you guys get back
to your day. I appreciate you guys. Let's get a
special chi hu and then get out of here. Three
two one cheer.

Speaker 7 (01:08:20):
I don't care if I never go back. So each
root root root funnel. Gee, they don't win.

Speaker 5 (01:08:31):
In some shame.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Oh lord, and.

Speaker 5 (01:08:34):
It's one two.

Speaker 6 (01:08:37):
It strikes you out at the

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Bo