November 26, 2023 • 51 mins
On this episode of Paranormal Odyssey, we set down with Jack from New York. Jack looks into a few different types of paranormal activity to include ghost hunting as well as cryptid field investigations. He has spent quite a bit of time looking into Bigfoot as well. This was a fun conversation.
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I was listening to the story aboutIt was the story of a family in
Washington and the little boy called thebig Foot the cowboy man, and he
had apparently it had made an effortto steal this kid. And it hit
me. My children were in thatplace pen behind me with nothing but a
mosquito net over them. It couldhave crept up behind me and taken both
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of my children and I wouldn't know. Father just got like a Mustang or
something from Wyoming, Okay. Hehad it out in the corral because he
couldn't put it in the barn withthe in the stalls with the other horses.
It would kick and made all theother horses nervous. Had a seminal
Indian work in the horse, tryingto break it. Every day they had
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it out in the corrawl. Theskunky snuck up behind his horse and brammed
it, bonne its hind quarters.This particular horse kicks out, jumps over
the corral, runs into the poryou know, to get away. At
this point, the ranchers out therejust blessed away with the dirty, dirty
stucave lens into the slump. Iwent up there one day after that,
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or two days after that I wentup there and sat in the silence up
there, and I'm telling you,man, it was free. It was
crazy, you know it was.There was a crazy vibe up there.
Still. I did what I couldto kind of get things out of control.
But I told her, I said, you need to get off this
problem. I feel like, nomatter how strong you are, it's almost
like standing in the ocean. Youcan't stand still without moving your feet.
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You're going to get knocked over eventually. No matter how strong whatever, you
can't withstand a barrage of weird spiritualenergy. It's up there, but it's
wayne. Welcome back to Aaronormal Odyssey. Got another good one lined up for
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you today. Had a chance tosit down with Jack from New York.
Jack came on to talk about hiswidely successful TikTok well over one hundred thousand
subscribers over there, just over therekilling it. Basically, he goes out
and does live investigations, not onlyparanormal, but does some cryptid stuff as
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well. This is not the firsttime that I've interviewed Jack. I talked
to him a couple of years agoand I've been wanting to get him back
and finally have the opportunity to asbefore we get there, though, if
you would take a second go rateinterview the show wherever it is you get
your podcast. If you've had anencounter and I would like to come on
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and share it with me, Iwould love to talk to you about that.
Shoot me an email to Wane atParanormal World Productions dot com. I
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everyone about Paranormal Odyssey Live, whichcan be found every Tuesday eight pm over
on YouTube. Hit that subscribe buttonplease, all right, I got that's
the NP of all of that.I know you are ready. I'm ready.
Jack is backstage hanging out. Heis ready to go. Let's get
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started. You guys, Hey Jack, what's up budding? Oh? Not
much? How are you guys?Good? I'm good man, doing good,
been busy. So but how longhow long have you been into the
paranormal portion? Uh? The paranormalI started when I was sixteen years old,
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so it's been over twenty years forme. Oh okay, Yeah,
so that's when I first officially goton a team when I was I was
just I was actually about fifteen anda half, but roughly. But yeah,
it's been a while. Yeah,so is that how you first got
into it? So I got intoit, well, I had a really
bad paranormal experience when I was alittle kid. If you want me to
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share that, I can share thatreal quick. You just want to like
walk us into how you got intothis portion of the field. Yeah,
yeah, So basically what happened whenI was eight years old, I came
across what I've talked to demonologists andpriests now they've called it what is a
shadow demon or a soul eater,something that feeds off negative energy and tries
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to attack living people. When Iwas eight years old, I had something
come up to my bedroom window andtap on the window. When I looked
out, I saw it. Iwasn't able to move. I had basically
sleep proalysis but awake, and allI could do was sit there and kind
of just heavily breathe and couldn't scream, couldn't move, couldn't do anything.
And it actually at that point Isaw a light come out of my mouth
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and then it touched my parents' house, puffed a black smoke, and was
gone. So I ran and toldmy father about this incident and basically told
me I had a night tare.And this entity has been around four times
in my life to where another personhas actually seen it as well. But
that's why I got into the paranormalis because for years I had such a
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fear of the paranormal that I didn'tunderstand it. So I tried to take
that fear into more of a curiosityand trying to learn about it, and
that's when I joined my first teamwhen I was fifteen years old. Well
that's frightening, because you say shadowedautomatically resort to you know, when you
say shadow person, I always thinkof the hat Man. The hat Mand
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is actually one of the ones thatI did see when I was a kid
too, and I didn't realize howmany people have seen it. Oh yes,
And coincidentally, we had my cousinon whom is a Baptist preacher here
in Virginia, and I learned somuch about him that day. But he
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had seen the hat Man but hadno idea that's what it was until the
day of the show. Yeah,it's it's a terrifying experience. Honestly,
it's honestly like when I started doingresearch into it, like I said,
I talked to a demonologist about it, and then there was a Catholic priest
from Trinity Catholic in upstate New Yorkwho talked to me. A lot of
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people deal with it, and hethey just basically said, these are things
that you know that roam the earth, fit are a lot more normal to
see than you would think. Imean, how terrifying is slate PARALYSI isn't
but so exactly, And then youadd the whole aspect of seeing something that
you can't even move to try todefend yourself to the Tiffany, Oh no,
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it's okay. I was just gonnasay, I think there is a
lot of things that are around usthat we don't see that if we did
see it, we would die.Yeah, it's I would just kill ever.
It's it's pretty, yeah, prettyterrifying. Like And the thing is,
like I told you that I wastalking to you earlier, Tiffany,
most of the time when I dothese paranormal investigations, you have to be
a skeptic, and it investor anda believer, like you have to have
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that both those aspects because when yougo into a location, if you go
in with that thought process of it'shaunted, this is what's going to happen.
You're going to hear things and you'regoing to make judgment calls that aren't
maybe the best. So most ofthe time, I'm just like, yeah,
now, Jack, I mentioned thatwe had you on a while back.
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You came on, you talked aboutcryptids. Now you've been doing some
investigative investigations into cryptids as well.Yeah, how long? Like what got
you interested in that? So?I had a sighting when I was a
kid. This was back when Iwas ten years old. My first sighting
was in the dead End road bymy parents, and I believe I told
you guys that story when I wason the show last time. But basically
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biking back through some trails and hadsomething following us through the trees that was
basically using saplings like almost like skipoles to keep up with us, and
was like wrapping itself around trees andlike looking at us. And assumed at
first that it was my u myfriend's brother because his brother's a pretty big
guy. He was like six four, three hundred pounds. But when this
thing got closer, we actually noticedthat this thing was like way bigger than
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that. So I started, youknow, getting curious about it, and
I watched Harry and the Hendersons,of course, like who didn't, and
I started looking into it because ofthat reason. I was like, huh,
I wonder if there's something here,and that's when I stumbled stumbled upon
the Patterson Ginley film, and Ijust I was fascinated ever since. It
was just I was always that kidthat was into the weird stuff, that
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loved to watch like all the weirdmovies and read the weird books. So
that's what got me into it absolutely. Which which do you prefer? The
cryptid or the spooky paranormals? Thoughthat's hard because they're both really really fun
and they both get your adrenaline pumping. There's there's I have a very close
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connection to the paranormal stuff. I'dhave to say just by hair, with
no pun intended on that one,but just by a hair, it would
have to be the paranormal, andthen encrypted would deer behind it. It's
it's hard because it's two different aspects. When you go in on a paranormal
investigation, you have the aspect oflike, Okay, something might happen,
there might be a ghost, theremight be a haunting. But when you're
out in the woods and you're goingafter a cryptid, it's a whole different
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aspect because there's not only the cryptidyou're having to worry about, You're having
to worry about whatever else is livingout there. You're exactly right. We
talked about that griefully before the show. People like living people are far more
brightening to me than cryptids and ghosts. Yeah, yeah, I don't think
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Bigfoot's going to pull a gun onme. No, And like I was
saying, I was starting to tellyou guys that story, and it was
basically I was at a location calledSprings Park in upstate New York, and
it was a sulfur spring where peoplewould come across around the world, actually
be traveled to this location to theybelieve sulfur water had this healing ability for
people. But like tea and likeall these diseases back then, and so
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the place is actually supposed to behaunted. And I was doing an EVP
session and in the middle of it, I noticed the car pulled up behind
me into a dark corner, andwhen I looked into my passenger marror,
that's when I noticed the man wascarrying a rifle towards the back of my
truck. And that's when I putit in the drive and got out of
there and called the police. Andhe was arrested an hour and a half
later. Oh damn, So whatwas he doing? I think, Well,
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see, I didn't realize this,and I talked to the police department.
They said that that area is kindof a drug hotspot because it's dark,
it's down by the water, it'snot very visible from the road.
So I drive a black four fone P fifty, and apparently the police
department drives a black dodg Ram fifteenhundred. And I have a yell light
bar on top. Because my yelllight bar actually illuminates when I go out
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into the woods if I'm driving offlike back roads, doing ENCRYPTI hunting.
I used the yell light bar tobe able to illuminate for eyes around me,
something that's not too bright where we'dscare something off, but enough to
where i'd get eyeshine. And soI had this light bar on top.
I have a big black truck.He assumed that I was probably one of
the police trucks and was trying topeople don't think when they're in those kind
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of moments, you know. It'sthat's why I'm scared of the living.
Yeah, very true, very true, And I've said it so many times.
It seems like every time we havea paranormal investiget or on, I
say it, but because I thinkit's important. The only reason that that
I don't do what you do asfar as looking for ghosts is that fear
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of bringing something back with me,like something latching on and taking it back
to my my family, my kids. It just terrifies me to think about
terrified. Yeah. Yeah, isthat something that you've experienced or do you
know of anyone that's experienced something likethat I have, I've I've experienced it
a couple of times, and there'sthere's ways to avert that happening it And
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honestly, there is there's always thatrisk with doing any kind of paranormal investigation.
I just had this conversation with anotherinvestigator earlier this month, and basically,
you had your stage, your PaulSentos, and I always these are
two herbs that you would burn tohelp protect you. But the thing is,
when you go into a paranormal investigation, if you're not in the right
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mind, say, if you havedepression, you're having you know, anxiety,
you're scared, you're going in thereand you get your self worked up,
don't go in. And I've toldpeople this that have come with me.
I've had followers join me that say, hey, I've always wanted to
do this, but I never knowknew how to go about it. And
I before we take them into thelocation to be gone, listen, if
you are scared, if your anxietiesup, if you're you know, something
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dark's going on in your life rightnow, it is okay to take a
step outside of the paranormal investigation,go back to your vehicle, recollect yourself.
And if you can't do it,that's fine. It's not worth taking
that risk because they do attach tothat kind of thing. Wow. So
I mean, do you feel likeyou've ever had something to latch on and
you take it home with you.I've had what they call a partial possession.
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It happened during actually a TikTok live. I was at an area Paul
called Kendrick Corners, I was withan investigator, Brandy, and we ended
up going down this road where thisthing called the Phantom of Kendrick Corners is
and the story goes back into thenineteen fifties where a gentleman wearing a tuxedo
will walk in front of your car. You'll actually hit him and feel like
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you've hit a person, and you'llget out and try to check to see
if this person's okay, and he'snot there. And we started talking to
something and I just had this trustyour gut is the first big thing I'll
always say. I had this gutfeeling that we needed to leave. And
as we left, I started feelingweak. I felt drained. It's just
every bad feeling you could possibly get. It started to feel. And we
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get to rate outside my property andI looked at Brandy, I said,
we need to grab this sage inPaula Santos Well. As we're doing this,
I blacked out. I just kindof went My head just kind of
started nodding, and you can actuallysee my pupil on my left side start
to fully dilate to black, andmy like, my face almost didn't kind
of look like me. And Brandysaid Brandy said that I sat there for
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about twenty minutes and didn't talk toher, didn't say anything. And I'm
not that kind of person. I'mvery sociable, damn. So it's it's
not for everybody. It's oh,looks like we lost. Yeah. She
was just texting me saying that she'shaving some issues. Oh okay, she
left, she'll be back, okay. Yeah. I mean, honestly,
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with paranormal stuff, with any kindof investigation of the unknown, there's always
that risk. I mean, withwith paranormal there's the risk of something following
you home. There is, andwith the cryptids there's the risk of finding
the cryptid and him not wanting tobe found. I mean, there's there's
that dangerous risk there. Absolutely.I mean that's definitely a question that a
lot of people have posed to me, is you know, what do you
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do if you find this big sonof a bit exactly? I mean,
if he's not happy that you're there? I mean, what are you going
to do? How do you answerthat? And that's the thing I don't
I think as investigators, we werealways like we're excited, we're ready to
go, We're ready to do this, and we never think of the consequences
of like what if I do stumbleupon this? And I've had a few
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I mean, you've probably had acouple of those moments where you're in the
woods and you hear something and it'sclose and you're like, wait, what
do I do now? Like,what do I do in this moment?
Am I going to ask him topose for a selfie? Because he's probably
not going to He's probably going totry to rip me apart. So yeah,
yeah, I mean, you breeze, just exactly what you just said.
That's happened to me. I've sharedthat store so many times about I'm
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out there for one reason, togather in together, you know, evidence,
information, and then when you getyour opportunity, you're so afraid.
Or me, I was so afraidthat the one thing I pulled out was
my forty five off my head.YEP. I didn't reach for a camera
or a recorder or anything like that. I wish to god I had a
recording of that sound that we allheard that night, but none of us
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thought to get it because we werethat afraid. And it worries me that
if one ever does step out infront of me on a trail and I'm
face to face with this nine foottall, thousand pounds beast. Other than
pee or poop myself, No,what am I going to do? Am
I gonna have the wherewithal to pullout a camera? I don't know.
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Yeah, I think honestly, ifI got put in one of those moments
that I've told a couple of peoplethis and they're like, you're nuts,
I wouldn't pull a gun out.I would probably back away and lower myself
down and kind of because I mean, at this point, if I shoot
this thing, how do I knowa forty five? I've heard stories of
these things getting shot with twelve gaugesand it was like hitting them with a
freaking fly swatter. You shoot themwith a forty five, what's the outcome?
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Is it going to take it down? Or is it just going to
piss it off to the point wherenow you definitely are in danger. So
I feel like more showing it kindof respect would be the better way to
go about it. But I meanI don't know. Yeah, I mean,
you're absolutely right, and given theopportunity, if I'm thinking clearly,
that might be the way I go. But again, yeah, I wasn't
thinking clearly, I was thinking safety. How am I going to protect myself
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and this thirteen year old kid that'sstanding beside me. Yeah, when there's
a kid involved, it changes thewhole outcome of your decision making at that
point if it's just you, Butwhen there's children involved, it's yeah,
I get that. Yeah, WellJack, what is and let's start with
the paranormal side. What is themost scared you have ever been on an
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investigation? And here in just aminute, we've got a clip that we're
going to play for everybody, butbefore we do, if you could just
answer that question, I'd have tosay the most scared I've been on an
investigation, So that wouldn't include whatI had when I was a little kid,
would actually have to be recently atthe Hensdale house. It just happened
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a couple of weeks ago. Sothe entity that I saw when I was
eight years old showed up at Hensdale. I was not expecting it. I
haven't seen it in thirteen years.The last time that I saw me and
my ex wife actually both witnessed itinto our house. It was in the
back bedroom, and so I haven'tseen it in thirteen years. I was
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upstairs doing the Estus method, andI was on live, and I remember
I was just about to put myblindfold down and I looked over into what
is Mary's room. It would havebeen Laura's room, straight across by the
staircase. I look and it's notas tall, but it was the same
entity and it was just shorter,looking around the door at me like this,
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and the second I made eye contact, I went to put the blindfold
down and I put it back upand I said, I need to go
downstairs. And it was this feelingof you're in danger and if you stay
here tonight, you're going to havesomething really bad happen to you. So
we went downstairs, and we hadplanned on staying there just for Friday the
thirteenth, and then going another nighton the fourteenth. And I stopped the
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live and didn't get a chance toexplain to the followers, but I was
shaking. I was in tears.That's never happened on an investigation to me.
And I sat there with John andSheila, who are both psychics,
and we talked and basically they said, yeah, you're not You're not fit
to be here. This isn't safe. We need everybody to be safe.
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So we ended up driving from thehouse. Now. Earlier that day,
John actually said the property didn't feelthe normal way that the Hinsdale House fields.
They've been there multiple times. Theyjust worked with Nick Groff and his
wife and Dan, the owner ofHinsdale, and they John just said something
felt also really weird about that nightas well, and as we left,
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you could just feel like something wastrying to follow us, and we got
to be I ninety through it.As we hopped off over by Syracuse,
we pulled over to a rest areaand we saged and cleansed and everything.
But we had a really good meetingafterwards, and basically they said, you
know, next time that happens,don't let it, don't let it scare
you. And they're right. Andthat's what I usually tell everybody is I
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always had these big sayings where Igo in and like, don't have that
fear, stay tuned for more paranormalodyssey, Stay strong, stay firm,
stay your ground, because the secondyou get that fear, they're going to
feed off that and you're going tobe a victim. And I let it
happen to me at Hensdale, andthat was the first time that's ever happened
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to me on on an investigation.Wow, now I've heard the name Hensdale
before. What is that a house? What is the Hensdale House was originally
Native Americans actually settled around the property. There's burial sites all around the farmlanddown
in Hensdale, New York. Andback in the nineteen seventies, the Dandy
family that was living there, theyhad really bad hauntings, demonic hauntings,
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and they called investigators to end therain warren to come in and they did
a exorcism of the house and itfailed, and the Dandy family was told
to move out and leave the house, and they did and it set abandoned
for years until the owner, nowDan, I can't remember Dan's last day,
but he bought the house and hebrings in paranormal investigators to teach them
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about how to hunt and stuff likethat. And it's a really beautiful place
and the house was great to investigatefor the spirits that are there. But
I don't think that this entity thatI dealt with with as a kid was
a resident of there. I feellike it got drawn in because we were
opening a level of communication, andthat is the thing that's second you open
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that level of communication, it's likeyou can't control who comes in. So
did you see that before or afteryou guys did the Ouiji board session after?
Okay, that was my first timeever using a Wiji board in my
life. I didn't feel like theWigi board was a bad thing. And
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this was another thing that I've gottenon topics with people are like Wiedi boards
are so evil, Like why areyou doing that? That's a doorway.
I've had followers message of me eversince I announced, because I wasn't going
to really announce it, and Iannounced it about a month before that.
We were going to use one atHinsdale on Friday the thirteenth, And when
I went in and I started explainingthat when you use dousing rods, when
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you use SB seven spirit box,when you're using a pendulum, that's a
level of communications that's the same asa Beiji board. And Wigi boards have
gotten such a bad rap just becauseof the movie The Exorcist things like that.
They've they've made them more evil,but they're the same level of communication
if you used an SB seven,But I think using that may have triggered
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that entity to show up. Yeah, I was curious about that. Yeah,
I'd seen I'd seen the Ouiji boardsession and then I caught the video
you had posted on TikTok about y'allhappen to leave early, and so yeah,
so I'm curious. Yeah. Thefirst night was when we did the
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Ouiji board, and that's when actuallyLorraine Warren, it said Lorraine Warren came
through. Now we can't confirm nordeny it if it was or not,
because you know, there's no onehundred percent guarantee, but at that moment,
that's actually when I had my facehit with my grandmother's perfume. And
my grandmother is my spirit guide,and it was the lilac rose perfume that
she always wore. And that nightthe next night, when I was told,
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hey, you need to be outof here because you're in danger,
that perfume came into my nose againand I was like, Okay, this
is Grandma's saying I need to go. Like this is it? Yeah,
it the first Wigi board thing.I don't know. I'm I'm still skeptical
a little bit about it, kindof back and forth about it, but
it was it was definitely a coolexperience to be able to do it with
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you know, John and Sheila.I know they weren't moving it. I
know that because I could definitely feelwhen it was, you know, being
moved by one of us if itwas. But I watched their fingertips because
I'm, like I said, I'ma skeptic. I'm a skeptic and a
believer, so I'm always going towatch every fine, little minute detail.
And their fingertips were just barely touching. But the force that was coming through
would have been they would head topress and they weren't. You never heard
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anything good about Aligi board? Yeah, same, I don't know. I
mean saying that I still try.I still try. I mean, I
don't know. That's how I am. It's like it's it's not as evil
as everybody like. And that's thething, like, be careful, know
how to open and close. Theonly reason I did is because John knows
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how to open it and close thecommunication. Because the bad part about that
is if you don't close communication,you leave that line open to anything.
And you can't do that. That'sthat's what invites a lot of bad stuff
in So Jack, how do youhow do you close it? Say someone's
playing with Theluigi board for the firsttime. How do you close that line
of communication of things? See,I'm not one that actually really knows.
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I'm not an expert on that.I know when John did it, he
had he prayed. He even actuallysaid in the name of juice, because
I believe John is a Christian anduh Norse belief. But he basically was
saying, you know, we're openingthis level of communication. We're asking for
a ring of protection around us,our ancestors. So if you're going to
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do it, everybody does it differently. There's different ways to open and close,
but you have to make sure thatyou are sturdy in your opening and
closing, because if you're not,I mean, you're just, like I
said, leaving that line open.Yeah. So it's more than just saying
goodbye. Yeah, it's more thansay and see. I just I had
a couple of kids message me,and actually it was my my fiance's niece
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her boyfriend. They were playing withthe Wigi board and I said, did
you close and open properly? Doyou know what you're doing? And they're
like no. And I was like, okay, are you having haunts?
And they were like yes, AndI said Okay, where are you having
hauntings? And they were like,it's in the room where the Wiji board
is. I said, here's whatyou need to do. You need to
go to an undisclosed location. Youneed to take that board, and you
need to bury you They're like,don't we burn it? And I'm like,
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no, you burry it and youleave it there, because then that
and make sure it's not like inyour he of course the kids makes the
joke. Let me just leave itat my school. That well, it's
funny you say don't burn it becausenow, my sister Mester was one when
I was younger than my youngest child, so I was younger than fourteen.
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But my parents had used one,and this was before we were born.
And I remember my dad and itmade me think about when you said that.
He had said that he and momhad used it and they had some
kind of experience with it. Buthe was like, it's no good,
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and so he put it in likeone of those gallon drums, I don't
know, five gallon, fifty gallondrums whatever, and burnt it. And
he said as soon as they litit on fire, he's like, he
said, the fire was blue.It wasn't orange, it was blue.
Got hot real quick. Yeah,yeah, I mean there is a way
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to dispose of them. I believeone belief is you use salt and fire.
Salt for purification, fire for destroyingit. I just don't know how
to like, See, that's thething, like if I'm not an expert
or I don't know what I'm talkingabout, I'm not going to tell you
I'm knowing what I'm talking about.I'm gonna tell you I have no idea.
Yea, Yeah, it's our owncuriosity that gets us into trouble.
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Yeah, absolutely that you are bothexactly right, exactly right. We're going
to share this little clip now beforewe do, let's talk about your TikTok
ky Jay. How many as tippingthat you clarify for us? How many
followers do you have? We justhit well, now we've been at a
solid two hundred and seventeen thou forjust about six months now, been right
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around that number. How long didit take you to get that number?
I started in twenty twenty one,so it's been two years and you've done
it just by doing love, doinglive paranormal investigations, working with other paranormal
investigators. We just the one thresholdthat we beat. This I say beat,
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it sounds like I'm playing a videogame. One threshold that we met
was we hit one hundred and twentyfive million views in April. Good for
you, man, that's awesome.It's it's been a lot of fun.
It's it's something that I've been sopassionate about for the past twenty years that,
you know, just to be ableto share stories, meet new people,
people who have curiosities of the samethings. It's great. It's a
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community. Are you right now?No, I'm not. You know.
I told all my followers to comeover here and to watch you guys and
join us over here. So thereis a couple of them that I've seen
pop up and say hi and everything. So okay, I was going to
tell you, if you're live rightnow, tell them to head over here.
What are they doing? Yeah,well that's the thing I said.
I was like, I'm going inhere tonight. You need to come here.
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You don't come here, so rightthis platform, come to this platform.
You know, I've been trying topush people over to YouTube. I
do have a YouTube as well,and you guys know, it's harder to
grow on YouTube. TikTok's one ofthe easiest platforms to grow, it really
is. But you know, it'sa great platform to use to grow your
following and bring them over to theseother ones, you know. So yeah,
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we're going to share this one beforepull it up, Jack, let's
us into it. So that's whatwe're going to be seeing. So this
video clip was taken at Barnhardt's Cemeteryin Messina, New York. Now Barnhart
Cemetery originally set in the middle ofthe Saint Lawrence River, where they moved
it in the nineteen fifties from theEisenhower Locks where this cemetery used to sit.
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As I talked to one of theguys that actually lives across the road.
He worked on the project, andbasically what he told me is that
they moved the gravestones because the gravestonesare gonna bee hundred dollars a piece to
move. But if they moved thegravestones to the bodies, so it was
gonna be a eleven. So theycut corners, he said that they did.
The bodies were so old that theywere just like bone and just chipped
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ash and stuff like that. Atthat point, that they took a bulldozer
and put all the bodies into alarge mask grave under the Saint Lawrence and
moved the gravestones over here. Sincethat happened, that had that cemetery has
been in the Haunted North of NewYork Books the which is a book written
by Sherry Revier, a great,great person. But it's it's sad to
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think that, you know, peoplewere disrespected, and this happens a lot,
a lot more than people would think. So there's been stories of just
seeing spirits walking around. And Ithought, you know, I had a
tiny house fan at this point,and I just I had my dog for
a couple months, and I wantedto bring him in on paranormal investigations because
I believe animals are sensitive. Alot of people have this theory, and
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that's what Jay and Jade's Venture standfor. Is my name is Jack and
my dog's name is Jack. AndI did not name him. He came
with that naw. I went togo get a sister, and he's the
one that came and set up myfoot. I'm like, I guess this
is him, And so I broughthim along and he was sleeping in the
front and I had the SB sevengoing, I had the mag flashlight on
the corner, and I just,you know, I asked, if there's
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anything here, give us some kindof sign and if you want to play
that video show, here we go. I want to shove that. Other
spirits have moved that flashlight before.So it's like, so, what did
you shove that flashlight? Jack?Jack? What are you growling at?
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What is that? Boy? Holycrap, I just about crap my pants.
What is it? Bud? Staydoggy? Just just just growled,
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look up out of a dead sleep, no pun intended, and he's pointing
out there towards something and that thingjust said stay doggy. That's my yeah
that I was never expecting that tohappen. I remember being I'm live and
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this was all live on TikTok,and uh, every every hair my body
just stood straight up. It's crazy. Did that play through for you guys,
because it seemed like it was lagginga little bit for me on my
side. It played all the way. Yeah, good, Yeah, that's
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all that matters, because when Ilistened to it the first time, you
could actually hear it say sit doggyor or something like that. Right,
Yeah, it's just uh stay doggyis because basically what happened was JJ sat
straight up, pointed right out thedoor. So I had a forty three
to fifty handicap fan so the raceand we just lost Jack, my god,
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killing me. You're muted too.Look at how professional I am a
muted slug right now? Yea,yeah, teks Jack and tell him to
come back. I will. Idon't have his number, but yeah,
lock beard, that's right. Westarted seven thirty normally on Tuesday nights,
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got we had a late start today. We started at eight o'clock. There
you go. Carson said, Jack, you hit every one of the man
so now it's got all of us, so maybe it's done. Okay,
Yeah, no, it just kickedme. I went right back to the
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link and came back through that way. Okay, anyway you were saying,
So I was driving a forty threeto fifty conversion van, and basically what
that is the right side of thedoor is actually a large man door,
and you can see out. It'sa big glass slab, so you can
see right out of it. Andwhen JJ growled, he set straight up
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and was following something, and hewas walking back and forth and pacing,
so he was actually like looking atsomething. And then it was like he
wanted out. He wanted out ofthe van, and I said, you
know what's going on, And allof a sudden it says stay doggy,
like, don't come out, staydoggy. So and then the flashlight actually
turns off right next to me too. So the mag flashlight we had rigged
up to where if you turned thelight, when you tap it, it
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will turn off, and when youtap it again you have to physically touch
them to get them to turn offand turn on. So at that same
point the flashlight went off. That'screepy as though, Man, it was
it was Yeah, it was coolthough. It was so awesome that did
something like that, that they collidetogether. I do have a big foot
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story that I have not told youon because this was. This happened after
we talked we here. I know, I've been waiting to tell you this.
This has been This was the mostterrifying big foot sighting or cryptid sighting
that I've ever had in my life. I was down in a place called
Beartown State Forest down near Carthage,New York, and I was down there
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with my girlfriend at the time.We were camping. It's a beautiful location.
There's a lot of ATV and sideby side trails and stuff like that.
And we set up a camp.We had a fire going, we're
cooking her you know, her brotherand his fiance were there and we're eating
and they get up they head out. It's getting right around like seven o'clock.
And this was in July of twothousand and twenty one, and so
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we're sitting there and we just hadwe had sausage. I remember, I
made the sausage onions like potatoes,the hearty meal. And we got talking
about big Floop being her and shegoes, oh, yeah, so what
do you do to get a bigfoot to communicate with you? And I
said, well, there's multiple differentways. You can do a you know,
whoop howl, tree knocks, stufflike that. And she's like,
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what's a tree knock? So Ipicked up a branch and I walked over
to a tree and I did theknock, and not even ten seconds later,
right back she goes, was thatan echo? And I went no,
I don't think so, so letme do a pattern. So and
about ten seconds right back and she'slike, okay, who do you have
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out there in the woods. I'mlike, I don't know anybody down here.
This is, this is, thisdoesn't happen. It was like,
it's like that fishing moment where youtake out a kid fishing and you catch
a big bass on the first cast. That doesn't happen kind of thing.
And so she looks at me,She's like, that's really creepy, and
so I was like, yeah,I I don't know what that could be.
I mean, it sounds like atree knock right back. So it
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gets about eleven o'clock at night,and all of a sudden, we start
hearing a bunch of coyotes go intolike this frenzy. They're they're chasing after
a deer or something, and theymust have caught him because it went crazy
right around eleven forty five. Andthen all of a sudden, it went
dead silent. I mean you nocrickets, no bugs, and we're in
a we're in a swamp area,no frogs, nothing. You could hear
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a pin drop. And then allof a sudden, one of the coyotes
sounds like he's getting ripped apart.I mean, it's this blood curdling whimper
scream. Then I kid you not. There was this howl that I can
only describe as if you took ahowler monkey and a Bengal tiger and you
mix them together. And the weirdthing is you could feel the howl in
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your chest. There was like avibration in the air, and it was
this Me and her both set straightup, and it was this instant panic.
We looked at each other and Iwas like, that is nothing that
is around here. I've heard fox, I've heard even you know, coyotes,
mountain lions, bears, I've heardeverything you could hear out there.
I've never heard anything like that inmy life. And I looked at her
and I was like, what doyou want to do. She's like,
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I want to get out of here. And I took the tent with our
sleeping bags and everything in it,and I rolled it up into this big
giant bundle and I threw it inthe car. We left. It was
only probably maybe one hundred hundred andfifty yards from our from our camp.
Oh So I did some research onthe area and apparently there's stories that have
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gone back there over one hundred yearsof the Bigfoot family that lives in the
area. A big Foot family thatlives in the area. They're saying that
there's like a huge family of themthat lived in that area. So I
don't know. Oh yeah, it'sit's it's a pretty I wonder. I
don't know how big Bear Town is. That's what one thing I wanted to
find out. I know one placethat I live up near is Brazier's Stafe,
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and there's a lot of sightings upthere, like all the time.
And that's fourteen five hundred acres thestate forest, wetland. It's it's gorgeous.
Wow. Now, I believe you'vementioned you're in New York State right,
Yes, Are you near the AdironDecks still or it used to be?
Yeah? Yeah, I'm I'm stillgreat about like thirty forty five minutes
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from the Adiron Decks, So BeartownState Forest is ten four hundred acres.
Oh wow, And that's all wetland, and it's just it's a beautiful area
to go out during the day,but at night you definitely don't feel like
you're alone out there. Very cool, very cool. What's uh, what's
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next for Jay and j Adventures?You got anything interesting planned? I got
a lot of stuff planned. Wehave coming up on Holloway Night. We
have the Underground Railroad investigation. Thereis a museum called the Star Clark Tin
Shop in Mexico, New York.Stay tuned for more Paranormal Odyssey. That's
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gonna be really exciting because we're gonnado a Halloween Live event overnight. There's
a lot of activity activity that we'vegotten there before. And then ten days
later we're actually going to Gettysburg,Pennsylvania to the Civil War orphanage and another
location that's kind of hidden right now. But and then there's a secret project
in the works that I can't talkabout unfortunately, but that's how sometimes.
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Civil War Orphanage that just sounds justghosty as hale, Oh my god,
it's it's so bad. So itwas visited by Ulysses Grant during the Civil
War. This would be the placethat they would send the kids that you
know, they didn't have any survivingparents after the war and also during and
there was a headmistress that took itover who was just pure evil. If
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a kid misbehaved, she turned thebasement into a dungeon. There was chains
shackles, that's where the kids thatwere not well behaved that they would be
placed and that's as far as theyknow that It went with them just getting
shackled there. But there's been reportsof, you know, hearing stories of
abuse. I mean, being shackledis abuse enough. But it's a very
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active place, and I will begoing into the basement during the investigation to
see if I can talk to anyof the spirits and help anything move on.
Yeah, I'm very I'm looking forwardto that one. And I don't
know what it is, but Gettysburghas always I've always been drawn to anything
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that has to do with Gettysburg andI don't know why. So when I
saw that, I was like,well, hell yeah. Yeah. The
one project that I am working onthat I can't talk too much about but
I can give some information is I'mworking on I'm working with a gentleman on
a video about the underground railroad andkind of a path that it takes up
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through the North Country to Canada,and we're doing kind of a documentary about
that. Slash Paranormals History of SlashParanormal. Yeah, that's exciting. I
cannot wait for that one. It'sgonna be a lot of fun. I
agree. Been to the Gettysburg Orphanage. Nothing paranormal happened. Yeah, there's
definitely that's the people that I'm goingwith have told me there is an energy
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there even when there's nothing going on. You definitely feel you almost feel like
I mean with those kind of locations, you feel like you stop step back
in time. The Jenny Waite House, I wish I could. Has there
ever been a place that you justrefused to go but you got their stoke
to do an investigation and you justhad this feeling like I don't need to
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be here, so I'm not gonnado it and just back the way.
Yeah. There has been one location, Yeah, only one, And it
isn't a place that you would think. It's not like this big a sayan
asylum or prison. It was ahouse in Edwards, New York. I
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can't give it any names, butI can tell you what happened there was
there was a gentleman that lived therewith his mother who had schizophrenia, and
spirits that are negative or demonic tendto feed off people who have disabilities or
ailments that might make them an easiertarget. And we went into that location
and I actually had to because Ido a lot of investigations on TikTok,
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which are the entertaining ones where Ibring you guys in, I teach you
the history and I try to,you know, show if you can find
any paranormal stuff. And then there'sstuff behind the scenes that I don't there's
family homes, there's businesses that don'twant to be on live. I've done
over four hundred investigations in twenty yearsof doing this, and not all of
them have ever been live, andthis was one of them. And basically
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I had to sent her off tothe church to get a demonologist and a
exorcist up there because there was suchan attachment to him. I remember we
were standing out in the front yardand he was in the house, probably
a good fifty yards away. Hewouldn't be able to hear us. The
windows were up, you know,in the house, he couldn't hear anything,
and we were talking and met.The second I mentioned his name,
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he turned and he gave me thislook of like he wanted to attack me.
And she looked at me and she'slike, did you see him look
at you like that? And Iwas like, yeah, the second I
said his name and he came outand he said to his mom, He's
like, I want to hurt thisguy. And I said, okay.
Like the second he said that,I was like, okay. I said,
you know, I know this isn'tyou talking. I know that you're
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dealing with something that you can't evenbegin to understand. And I'm really sorry
you're going through this, I said, but I'm going to send you off
to somebody else who's going to helpyou connect with the people that you need
to connect to, because you havean entity here that is much darker than
I'm able to deal with out ofmy level of expertise. And that was
that was the one that I justbasically went calling out. Yeah, I
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mean, who could blame me?Oh God, that that possession stuff.
Man, I can't take it.I can't deal with it. It's it's
scary, it is I've I've onlyseen the person possessed once and like,
like I said, I've done overfour hundred of these. I think five
of them that we stumbled upon thatwe're demonic. They are out there,
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but you're we don't get possessed everyother episode. I'm not going to name
any names, but we're not oneof those those shows that are gonna be
there for entertainment purposes. We're notgonna be somebody who's gonna walk in and
be like, there's something dark anddemonic here. Because the thing is like,
as I say that, and Igot my sign that says, please
don't summon your demons in my bathroom, but like, there isn't there,
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there's not There are demonic cons outthere, but stumbling upon them are a
lot I can't say harder, butrareer to find, but they are out
there. Well, go ahead,Yeah, we're on this same bright Our
last guest, Claris Vasquash, shesaid the same thing. She said,
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They're very rare. They are,yeah, and they're bad and you can
feel them the second you get ontothat area your body, like everybody when
you meet these people. Because I'ma psychic, I'm a psychic medium,
and I don't really talk about thatmuch because when I'm on TikTok, I
want to show people scientific proof.I don't want to be in there and
be like, oh I sense something, because I could say that about here,
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but everybody on this earth has theability to sense things. Our bodies
have a sense in us that wecan't even begin to understand. And there
are a lot of times if you'veever been around a person and you're like
this person, I just get areally bad feeling about this person, and
it's your brain and your body feelsthat. That's how it is when you
come across the demonic entity, whenyou have that feeling of don't be here,
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like you need to get out.And that's what happened at Hensdale.
Like I was saying, you know, is that feeling you need to get
out? Because my body, inwhatever this sense was, was telling me
if you stay here, something that'sgonna happen to you. But I did
have one thing. You said thejoke earlier and it just made me laugh,
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and then I had one for you, and I wanted to tell you.
Did you hear about the midic,the midget psychic that escaped from prison.
I have not. He was thesmall medium at large. I had
to It's like, well, agreat episode, everybody, thanks for crying.
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Way these people get me, somebodyneeds to. On that note,
Jack, tell everybody where they canfind you so you can find us around
different platforms. We have Change Adventureson TikTok, we have j Adventures over
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here on YouTube and then there's alsoa jan j Adventures TikTok group on Facebook
and those are the three locations thatwe're at right now. Very cool,
very cool. And you got aHalloween special coming up, and yeah,
just in a couple of days.Yeah, yeah, Halloween is a week
from tonight. Yeah oh yeah,yeah, this is exactly a week.
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Yeah, and that will be atthe Star Clark Tin Shop in Mexico Point,
New York, the Underground Railroad Museum. Very cool. All right,
buddy, thank you so much fortaking the time to come and hang out
with us tonight. And I appreciateyou being flexible on the late start.
And uh yeah, it's good stuff. Man. I appreciate you guys having
me and anytime. I love talkingto you. And it's great to share,
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you know, stories with people andhere everybody else's stories too. Well.
It was a pleasure. It wasa pleasure. Thank you, and
you're welcome back anytime. But we'llsay something else that sounds good. All
right, buddy, have a goodnight. You two guys. They say
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you don't gotta go home, butyou can't stay. No, I don't
want to. People we're all lopping. Try just chip that chid everything call
(49:45):
it, ride back back joy forme, Joy to stay right there,
call it right away. That's consisisssssssssssssssssssssssssssss has and hasssss
I was listening to the story aboutIt was the story of a family in
Washington and the little boy called thebig Foot the cowboy man, and he
had apparently it had made an effortto steal this kid. And it hit
me. My children were in thatplace pen behind me with nothing but a
mosquito net over them. It couldhave crept up behind me and taken both
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of my children and I wouldn't know. Father just got like a Mustang or
something from Wyoming, Okay. Hehad it out in the corral because he
couldn't put it in the barn withthe in the stalls with the other horses.
It would kick and made all theother horses nervous. Had a seminal
Indian work in the horse, tryingto break it. Every day they had
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it out in the corrawl. Theskunky snuck up behind his horse and brammed
it, bonne its hind quarters.This particular horse kicks out, jumps over
the corral, runs into the poryou know, to get away. At
this point, the ranchers out therejust blessed away with the dirty, dirty
stucave lens into the slump. Iwent up there one day after that,
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or two days after that I wentup there and sat in the silence up
there, and I'm telling you,man, it was free. It was
crazy, you know it was.There was a crazy vibe up there.
Still. I did what I couldto kind of get things out of control.
But I told her, I said, you need to get off this
problem. I feel like, nomatter how strong you are, it's almost
like standing in the ocean. Youcan't stand still without moving your feet.
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You're going to get knocked over eventually. No matter how strong whatever, you
can't withstand a barrage of weird spiritualenergy. It's up there, but it's
wayne. Welcome back to Aaronormal Odyssey. Got another good one lined up for
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you today. Had a chance tosit down with Jack from New York.
Jack came on to talk about hiswidely successful TikTok well over one hundred thousand
subscribers over there, just over therekilling it. Basically, he goes out
and does live investigations, not onlyparanormal, but does some cryptid stuff as
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well. This is not the firsttime that I've interviewed Jack. I talked
to him a couple of years agoand I've been wanting to get him back
and finally have the opportunity to asbefore we get there, though, if
you would take a second go rateinterview the show wherever it is you get
your podcast. If you've had anencounter and I would like to come on
(02:36):
and share it with me, Iwould love to talk to you about that.
Shoot me an email to Wane atParanormal World Productions dot com. I
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everyone about Paranormal Odyssey Live, whichcan be found every Tuesday eight pm over
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the NP of all of that.I know you are ready. I'm ready.
Jack is backstage hanging out. Heis ready to go. Let's get
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started. You guys, Hey Jack, what's up budding? Oh? Not
much? How are you guys?Good? I'm good man, doing good,
been busy. So but how longhow long have you been into the
paranormal portion? Uh? The paranormalI started when I was sixteen years old,
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so it's been over twenty years forme. Oh okay, Yeah,
so that's when I first officially goton a team when I was I was
just I was actually about fifteen anda half, but roughly. But yeah,
it's been a while. Yeah,so is that how you first got
into it? So I got intoit, well, I had a really
bad paranormal experience when I was alittle kid. If you want me to
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share that, I can share thatreal quick. You just want to like
walk us into how you got intothis portion of the field. Yeah,
yeah, So basically what happened whenI was eight years old, I came
across what I've talked to demonologists andpriests now they've called it what is a
shadow demon or a soul eater,something that feeds off negative energy and tries
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to attack living people. When Iwas eight years old, I had something
come up to my bedroom window andtap on the window. When I looked
out, I saw it. Iwasn't able to move. I had basically
sleep proalysis but awake, and allI could do was sit there and kind
of just heavily breathe and couldn't scream, couldn't move, couldn't do anything.
And it actually at that point Isaw a light come out of my mouth
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and then it touched my parents' house, puffed a black smoke, and was
gone. So I ran and toldmy father about this incident and basically told
me I had a night tare.And this entity has been around four times
in my life to where another personhas actually seen it as well. But
that's why I got into the paranormalis because for years I had such a
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fear of the paranormal that I didn'tunderstand it. So I tried to take
that fear into more of a curiosityand trying to learn about it, and
that's when I joined my first teamwhen I was fifteen years old. Well
that's frightening, because you say shadowedautomatically resort to you know, when you
say shadow person, I always thinkof the hat Man. The hat Mand
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is actually one of the ones thatI did see when I was a kid
too, and I didn't realize howmany people have seen it. Oh yes,
And coincidentally, we had my cousinon whom is a Baptist preacher here
in Virginia, and I learned somuch about him that day. But he
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had seen the hat Man but hadno idea that's what it was until the
day of the show. Yeah,it's it's a terrifying experience. Honestly,
it's honestly like when I started doingresearch into it, like I said,
I talked to a demonologist about it, and then there was a Catholic priest
from Trinity Catholic in upstate New Yorkwho talked to me. A lot of
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people deal with it, and hethey just basically said, these are things
that you know that roam the earth, fit are a lot more normal to
see than you would think. Imean, how terrifying is slate PARALYSI isn't
but so exactly, And then youadd the whole aspect of seeing something that
you can't even move to try todefend yourself to the Tiffany, Oh no,
(06:38):
it's okay. I was just gonnasay, I think there is a
lot of things that are around usthat we don't see that if we did
see it, we would die.Yeah, it's I would just kill ever.
It's it's pretty, yeah, prettyterrifying. Like And the thing is,
like I told you that I wastalking to you earlier, Tiffany,
most of the time when I dothese paranormal investigations, you have to be
a skeptic, and it investor anda believer, like you have to have
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that both those aspects because when yougo into a location, if you go
in with that thought process of it'shaunted, this is what's going to happen.
You're going to hear things and you'regoing to make judgment calls that aren't
maybe the best. So most ofthe time, I'm just like, yeah,
now, Jack, I mentioned thatwe had you on a while back.
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You came on, you talked aboutcryptids. Now you've been doing some
investigative investigations into cryptids as well.Yeah, how long? Like what got
you interested in that? So?I had a sighting when I was a
kid. This was back when Iwas ten years old. My first sighting
was in the dead End road bymy parents, and I believe I told
you guys that story when I wason the show last time. But basically
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biking back through some trails and hadsomething following us through the trees that was
basically using saplings like almost like skipoles to keep up with us, and
was like wrapping itself around trees andlike looking at us. And assumed at
first that it was my u myfriend's brother because his brother's a pretty big
guy. He was like six four, three hundred pounds. But when this
thing got closer, we actually noticedthat this thing was like way bigger than
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that. So I started, youknow, getting curious about it, and
I watched Harry and the Hendersons,of course, like who didn't, and
I started looking into it because ofthat reason. I was like, huh,
I wonder if there's something here,and that's when I stumbled stumbled upon
the Patterson Ginley film, and Ijust I was fascinated ever since. It
was just I was always that kidthat was into the weird stuff, that
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loved to watch like all the weirdmovies and read the weird books. So
that's what got me into it absolutely. Which which do you prefer? The
cryptid or the spooky paranormals? Thoughthat's hard because they're both really really fun
and they both get your adrenaline pumping. There's there's I have a very close
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connection to the paranormal stuff. I'dhave to say just by hair, with
no pun intended on that one,but just by a hair, it would
have to be the paranormal, andthen encrypted would deer behind it. It's
it's hard because it's two different aspects. When you go in on a paranormal
investigation, you have the aspect oflike, Okay, something might happen,
there might be a ghost, theremight be a haunting. But when you're
out in the woods and you're goingafter a cryptid, it's a whole different
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aspect because there's not only the cryptidyou're having to worry about, You're having
to worry about whatever else is livingout there. You're exactly right. We
talked about that griefully before the show. People like living people are far more
brightening to me than cryptids and ghosts. Yeah, yeah, I don't think
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Bigfoot's going to pull a gun onme. No, And like I was
saying, I was starting to tellyou guys that story, and it was
basically I was at a location calledSprings Park in upstate New York, and
it was a sulfur spring where peoplewould come across around the world, actually
be traveled to this location to theybelieve sulfur water had this healing ability for
people. But like tea and likeall these diseases back then, and so
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the place is actually supposed to behaunted. And I was doing an EVP
session and in the middle of it, I noticed the car pulled up behind
me into a dark corner, andwhen I looked into my passenger marror,
that's when I noticed the man wascarrying a rifle towards the back of my
truck. And that's when I putit in the drive and got out of
there and called the police. Andhe was arrested an hour and a half
later. Oh damn, So whatwas he doing? I think, Well,
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see, I didn't realize this,and I talked to the police department.
They said that that area is kindof a drug hotspot because it's dark,
it's down by the water, it'snot very visible from the road.
So I drive a black four fone P fifty, and apparently the police
department drives a black dodg Ram fifteenhundred. And I have a yell light
bar on top. Because my yelllight bar actually illuminates when I go out
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into the woods if I'm driving offlike back roads, doing ENCRYPTI hunting.
I used the yell light bar tobe able to illuminate for eyes around me,
something that's not too bright where we'dscare something off, but enough to
where i'd get eyeshine. And soI had this light bar on top.
I have a big black truck.He assumed that I was probably one of
the police trucks and was trying topeople don't think when they're in those kind
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of moments, you know. It'sthat's why I'm scared of the living.
Yeah, very true, very true, And I've said it so many times.
It seems like every time we havea paranormal investiget or on, I
say it, but because I thinkit's important. The only reason that that
I don't do what you do asfar as looking for ghosts is that fear
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of bringing something back with me,like something latching on and taking it back
to my my family, my kids. It just terrifies me to think about
terrified. Yeah. Yeah, isthat something that you've experienced or do you
know of anyone that's experienced something likethat I have, I've I've experienced it
a couple of times, and there'sthere's ways to avert that happening it And
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honestly, there is there's always thatrisk with doing any kind of paranormal investigation.
I just had this conversation with anotherinvestigator earlier this month, and basically,
you had your stage, your PaulSentos, and I always these are
two herbs that you would burn tohelp protect you. But the thing is,
when you go into a paranormal investigation, if you're not in the right
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mind, say, if you havedepression, you're having you know, anxiety,
you're scared, you're going in thereand you get your self worked up,
don't go in. And I've toldpeople this that have come with me.
I've had followers join me that say, hey, I've always wanted to
do this, but I never knowknew how to go about it. And
I before we take them into thelocation to be gone, listen, if
you are scared, if your anxietiesup, if you're you know, something
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dark's going on in your life rightnow, it is okay to take a
step outside of the paranormal investigation,go back to your vehicle, recollect yourself.
And if you can't do it,that's fine. It's not worth taking
that risk because they do attach tothat kind of thing. Wow. So
I mean, do you feel likeyou've ever had something to latch on and
you take it home with you.I've had what they call a partial possession.
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It happened during actually a TikTok live. I was at an area Paul
called Kendrick Corners, I was withan investigator, Brandy, and we ended
up going down this road where thisthing called the Phantom of Kendrick Corners is
and the story goes back into thenineteen fifties where a gentleman wearing a tuxedo
will walk in front of your car. You'll actually hit him and feel like
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you've hit a person, and you'llget out and try to check to see
if this person's okay, and he'snot there. And we started talking to
something and I just had this trustyour gut is the first big thing I'll
always say. I had this gutfeeling that we needed to leave. And
as we left, I started feelingweak. I felt drained. It's just
every bad feeling you could possibly get. It started to feel. And we
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get to rate outside my property andI looked at Brandy, I said,
we need to grab this sage inPaula Santos Well. As we're doing this,
I blacked out. I just kindof went My head just kind of
started nodding, and you can actuallysee my pupil on my left side start
to fully dilate to black, andmy like, my face almost didn't kind
of look like me. And Brandysaid Brandy said that I sat there for
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about twenty minutes and didn't talk toher, didn't say anything. And I'm
not that kind of person. I'mvery sociable, damn. So it's it's
not for everybody. It's oh,looks like we lost. Yeah. She
was just texting me saying that she'shaving some issues. Oh okay, she
left, she'll be back, okay. Yeah. I mean, honestly,
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with paranormal stuff, with any kindof investigation of the unknown, there's always
that risk. I mean, withwith paranormal there's the risk of something following
you home. There is, andwith the cryptids there's the risk of finding
the cryptid and him not wanting tobe found. I mean, there's there's
that dangerous risk there. Absolutely.I mean that's definitely a question that a
lot of people have posed to me, is you know, what do you
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do if you find this big sonof a bit exactly? I mean,
if he's not happy that you're there? I mean, what are you going
to do? How do you answerthat? And that's the thing I don't
I think as investigators, we werealways like we're excited, we're ready to
go, We're ready to do this, and we never think of the consequences
of like what if I do stumbleupon this? And I've had a few
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I mean, you've probably had acouple of those moments where you're in the
woods and you hear something and it'sclose and you're like, wait, what
do I do now? Like,what do I do in this moment?
Am I going to ask him topose for a selfie? Because he's probably
not going to He's probably going totry to rip me apart. So yeah,
yeah, I mean, you breeze, just exactly what you just said.
That's happened to me. I've sharedthat store so many times about I'm
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out there for one reason, togather in together, you know, evidence,
information, and then when you getyour opportunity, you're so afraid.
Or me, I was so afraidthat the one thing I pulled out was
my forty five off my head.YEP. I didn't reach for a camera
or a recorder or anything like that. I wish to god I had a
recording of that sound that we allheard that night, but none of us
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thought to get it because we werethat afraid. And it worries me that
if one ever does step out infront of me on a trail and I'm
face to face with this nine foottall, thousand pounds beast. Other than
pee or poop myself, No,what am I going to do? Am
I gonna have the wherewithal to pullout a camera? I don't know.
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Yeah, I think honestly, ifI got put in one of those moments
that I've told a couple of peoplethis and they're like, you're nuts,
I wouldn't pull a gun out.I would probably back away and lower myself
down and kind of because I mean, at this point, if I shoot
this thing, how do I knowa forty five? I've heard stories of
these things getting shot with twelve gaugesand it was like hitting them with a
freaking fly swatter. You shoot themwith a forty five, what's the outcome?
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Is it going to take it down? Or is it just going to
piss it off to the point wherenow you definitely are in danger. So
I feel like more showing it kindof respect would be the better way to
go about it. But I meanI don't know. Yeah, I mean,
you're absolutely right, and given theopportunity, if I'm thinking clearly,
that might be the way I go. But again, yeah, I wasn't
thinking clearly, I was thinking safety. How am I going to protect myself
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and this thirteen year old kid that'sstanding beside me. Yeah, when there's
a kid involved, it changes thewhole outcome of your decision making at that
point if it's just you, Butwhen there's children involved, it's yeah,
I get that. Yeah, WellJack, what is and let's start with
the paranormal side. What is themost scared you have ever been on an
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investigation? And here in just aminute, we've got a clip that we're
going to play for everybody, butbefore we do, if you could just
answer that question, I'd have tosay the most scared I've been on an
investigation, So that wouldn't include whatI had when I was a little kid,
would actually have to be recently atthe Hensdale house. It just happened
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a couple of weeks ago. Sothe entity that I saw when I was
eight years old showed up at Hensdale. I was not expecting it. I
haven't seen it in thirteen years.The last time that I saw me and
my ex wife actually both witnessed itinto our house. It was in the
back bedroom, and so I haven'tseen it in thirteen years. I was
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upstairs doing the Estus method, andI was on live, and I remember
I was just about to put myblindfold down and I looked over into what
is Mary's room. It would havebeen Laura's room, straight across by the
staircase. I look and it's notas tall, but it was the same
entity and it was just shorter,looking around the door at me like this,
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and the second I made eye contact, I went to put the blindfold
down and I put it back upand I said, I need to go
downstairs. And it was this feelingof you're in danger and if you stay
here tonight, you're going to havesomething really bad happen to you. So
we went downstairs, and we hadplanned on staying there just for Friday the
thirteenth, and then going another nighton the fourteenth. And I stopped the
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live and didn't get a chance toexplain to the followers, but I was
shaking. I was in tears.That's never happened on an investigation to me.
And I sat there with John andSheila, who are both psychics,
and we talked and basically they said, yeah, you're not You're not fit
to be here. This isn't safe. We need everybody to be safe.
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So we ended up driving from thehouse. Now. Earlier that day,
John actually said the property didn't feelthe normal way that the Hinsdale House fields.
They've been there multiple times. Theyjust worked with Nick Groff and his
wife and Dan, the owner ofHinsdale, and they John just said something
felt also really weird about that nightas well, and as we left,
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you could just feel like something wastrying to follow us, and we got
to be I ninety through it.As we hopped off over by Syracuse,
we pulled over to a rest areaand we saged and cleansed and everything.
But we had a really good meetingafterwards, and basically they said, you
know, next time that happens,don't let it, don't let it scare
you. And they're right. Andthat's what I usually tell everybody is I
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always had these big sayings where Igo in and like, don't have that
fear, stay tuned for more paranormalodyssey, Stay strong, stay firm,
stay your ground, because the secondyou get that fear, they're going to
feed off that and you're going tobe a victim. And I let it
happen to me at Hensdale, andthat was the first time that's ever happened
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to me on on an investigation.Wow, now I've heard the name Hensdale
before. What is that a house? What is the Hensdale House was originally
Native Americans actually settled around the property. There's burial sites all around the farmlanddown
in Hensdale, New York. Andback in the nineteen seventies, the Dandy
family that was living there, theyhad really bad hauntings, demonic hauntings,
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and they called investigators to end therain warren to come in and they did
a exorcism of the house and itfailed, and the Dandy family was told
to move out and leave the house, and they did and it set abandoned
for years until the owner, nowDan, I can't remember Dan's last day,
but he bought the house and hebrings in paranormal investigators to teach them
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about how to hunt and stuff likethat. And it's a really beautiful place
and the house was great to investigatefor the spirits that are there. But
I don't think that this entity thatI dealt with with as a kid was
a resident of there. I feellike it got drawn in because we were
opening a level of communication, andthat is the thing that's second you open
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that level of communication, it's likeyou can't control who comes in. So
did you see that before or afteryou guys did the Ouiji board session after?
Okay, that was my first timeever using a Wiji board in my
life. I didn't feel like theWigi board was a bad thing. And
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this was another thing that I've gottenon topics with people are like Wiedi boards
are so evil, Like why areyou doing that? That's a doorway.
I've had followers message of me eversince I announced, because I wasn't going
to really announce it, and Iannounced it about a month before that.
We were going to use one atHinsdale on Friday the thirteenth, And when
I went in and I started explainingthat when you use dousing rods, when
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you use SB seven spirit box,when you're using a pendulum, that's a
level of communications that's the same asa Beiji board. And Wigi boards have
gotten such a bad rap just becauseof the movie The Exorcist things like that.
They've they've made them more evil,but they're the same level of communication
if you used an SB seven,But I think using that may have triggered
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that entity to show up. Yeah, I was curious about that. Yeah,
I'd seen I'd seen the Ouiji boardsession and then I caught the video
you had posted on TikTok about y'allhappen to leave early, and so yeah,
so I'm curious. Yeah. Thefirst night was when we did the
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Ouiji board, and that's when actuallyLorraine Warren, it said Lorraine Warren came
through. Now we can't confirm nordeny it if it was or not,
because you know, there's no onehundred percent guarantee, but at that moment,
that's actually when I had my facehit with my grandmother's perfume. And
my grandmother is my spirit guide,and it was the lilac rose perfume that
she always wore. And that nightthe next night, when I was told,
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hey, you need to be outof here because you're in danger,
that perfume came into my nose againand I was like, Okay, this
is Grandma's saying I need to go. Like this is it? Yeah,
it the first Wigi board thing.I don't know. I'm I'm still skeptical
a little bit about it, kindof back and forth about it, but
it was it was definitely a coolexperience to be able to do it with
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you know, John and Sheila.I know they weren't moving it. I
know that because I could definitely feelwhen it was, you know, being
moved by one of us if itwas. But I watched their fingertips because
I'm, like I said, I'ma skeptic. I'm a skeptic and a
believer, so I'm always going towatch every fine, little minute detail.
And their fingertips were just barely touching. But the force that was coming through
would have been they would head topress and they weren't. You never heard
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anything good about Aligi board? Yeah, same, I don't know. I
mean saying that I still try.I still try. I mean, I
don't know. That's how I am. It's like it's it's not as evil
as everybody like. And that's thething, like, be careful, know
how to open and close. Theonly reason I did is because John knows
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how to open it and close thecommunication. Because the bad part about that
is if you don't close communication,you leave that line open to anything.
And you can't do that. That'sthat's what invites a lot of bad stuff
in So Jack, how do youhow do you close it? Say someone's
playing with Theluigi board for the firsttime. How do you close that line
of communication of things? See,I'm not one that actually really knows.
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I'm not an expert on that.I know when John did it, he
had he prayed. He even actuallysaid in the name of juice, because
I believe John is a Christian anduh Norse belief. But he basically was
saying, you know, we're openingthis level of communication. We're asking for
a ring of protection around us,our ancestors. So if you're going to
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do it, everybody does it differently. There's different ways to open and close,
but you have to make sure thatyou are sturdy in your opening and
closing, because if you're not,I mean, you're just, like I
said, leaving that line open.Yeah. So it's more than just saying
goodbye. Yeah, it's more thansay and see. I just I had
a couple of kids message me,and actually it was my my fiance's niece
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her boyfriend. They were playing withthe Wigi board and I said, did
you close and open properly? Doyou know what you're doing? And they're
like no. And I was like, okay, are you having haunts?
And they were like yes, AndI said Okay, where are you having
hauntings? And they were like,it's in the room where the Wiji board
is. I said, here's whatyou need to do. You need to
go to an undisclosed location. Youneed to take that board, and you
need to bury you They're like,don't we burn it? And I'm like,
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no, you burry it and youleave it there, because then that
and make sure it's not like inyour he of course the kids makes the
joke. Let me just leave itat my school. That well, it's
funny you say don't burn it becausenow, my sister Mester was one when
I was younger than my youngest child, so I was younger than fourteen.
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But my parents had used one,and this was before we were born.
And I remember my dad and itmade me think about when you said that.
He had said that he and momhad used it and they had some
kind of experience with it. Buthe was like, it's no good,
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and so he put it in likeone of those gallon drums, I don't
know, five gallon, fifty gallondrums whatever, and burnt it. And
he said as soon as they litit on fire, he's like, he
said, the fire was blue.It wasn't orange, it was blue.
Got hot real quick. Yeah,yeah, I mean there is a way
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to dispose of them. I believeone belief is you use salt and fire.
Salt for purification, fire for destroyingit. I just don't know how
to like, See, that's thething, like if I'm not an expert
or I don't know what I'm talkingabout, I'm not going to tell you
I'm knowing what I'm talking about.I'm gonna tell you I have no idea.
Yea, Yeah, it's our owncuriosity that gets us into trouble.
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Yeah, absolutely that you are bothexactly right, exactly right. We're going
to share this little clip now beforewe do, let's talk about your TikTok
ky Jay. How many as tippingthat you clarify for us? How many
followers do you have? We justhit well, now we've been at a
solid two hundred and seventeen thou forjust about six months now, been right
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around that number. How long didit take you to get that number?
I started in twenty twenty one,so it's been two years and you've done
it just by doing love, doinglive paranormal investigations, working with other paranormal
investigators. We just the one thresholdthat we beat. This I say beat,
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it sounds like I'm playing a videogame. One threshold that we met
was we hit one hundred and twentyfive million views in April. Good for
you, man, that's awesome.It's it's been a lot of fun.
It's it's something that I've been sopassionate about for the past twenty years that,
you know, just to be ableto share stories, meet new people,
people who have curiosities of the samethings. It's great. It's a
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community. Are you right now?No, I'm not. You know.
I told all my followers to comeover here and to watch you guys and
join us over here. So thereis a couple of them that I've seen
pop up and say hi and everything. So okay, I was going to
tell you, if you're live rightnow, tell them to head over here.
What are they doing? Yeah,well that's the thing I said.
I was like, I'm going inhere tonight. You need to come here.
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You don't come here, so rightthis platform, come to this platform.
You know, I've been trying topush people over to YouTube. I
do have a YouTube as well,and you guys know, it's harder to
grow on YouTube. TikTok's one ofthe easiest platforms to grow, it really
is. But you know, it'sa great platform to use to grow your
following and bring them over to theseother ones, you know. So yeah,
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we're going to share this one beforepull it up, Jack, let's
us into it. So that's whatwe're going to be seeing. So this
video clip was taken at Barnhardt's Cemeteryin Messina, New York. Now Barnhart
Cemetery originally set in the middle ofthe Saint Lawrence River, where they moved
it in the nineteen fifties from theEisenhower Locks where this cemetery used to sit.
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As I talked to one of theguys that actually lives across the road.
He worked on the project, andbasically what he told me is that
they moved the gravestones because the gravestonesare gonna bee hundred dollars a piece to
move. But if they moved thegravestones to the bodies, so it was
gonna be a eleven. So theycut corners, he said that they did.
The bodies were so old that theywere just like bone and just chipped
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ash and stuff like that. Atthat point, that they took a bulldozer
and put all the bodies into alarge mask grave under the Saint Lawrence and
moved the gravestones over here. Sincethat happened, that had that cemetery has
been in the Haunted North of NewYork Books the which is a book written
by Sherry Revier, a great,great person. But it's it's sad to
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think that, you know, peoplewere disrespected, and this happens a lot,
a lot more than people would think. So there's been stories of just
seeing spirits walking around. And Ithought, you know, I had a
tiny house fan at this point,and I just I had my dog for
a couple months, and I wantedto bring him in on paranormal investigations because
I believe animals are sensitive. Alot of people have this theory, and
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that's what Jay and Jade's Venture standfor. Is my name is Jack and
my dog's name is Jack. AndI did not name him. He came
with that naw. I went togo get a sister, and he's the
one that came and set up myfoot. I'm like, I guess this
is him, And so I broughthim along and he was sleeping in the
front and I had the SB sevengoing, I had the mag flashlight on
the corner, and I just,you know, I asked, if there's
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anything here, give us some kindof sign and if you want to play
that video show, here we go. I want to shove that. Other
spirits have moved that flashlight before.So it's like, so, what did
you shove that flashlight? Jack?Jack? What are you growling at?
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What is that? Boy? Holycrap, I just about crap my pants.
What is it? Bud? Staydoggy? Just just just growled,
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look up out of a dead sleep, no pun intended, and he's pointing
out there towards something and that thingjust said stay doggy. That's my yeah
that I was never expecting that tohappen. I remember being I'm live and
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this was all live on TikTok,and uh, every every hair my body
just stood straight up. It's crazy. Did that play through for you guys,
because it seemed like it was lagginga little bit for me on my
side. It played all the way. Yeah, good, Yeah, that's
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all that matters, because when Ilistened to it the first time, you
could actually hear it say sit doggyor or something like that. Right,
Yeah, it's just uh stay doggyis because basically what happened was JJ sat
straight up, pointed right out thedoor. So I had a forty three
to fifty handicap fan so the raceand we just lost Jack, my god,
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killing me. You're muted too.Look at how professional I am a
muted slug right now? Yea,yeah, teks Jack and tell him to
come back. I will. Idon't have his number, but yeah,
lock beard, that's right. Westarted seven thirty normally on Tuesday nights,
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got we had a late start today. We started at eight o'clock. There
you go. Carson said, Jack, you hit every one of the man
so now it's got all of us, so maybe it's done. Okay,
Yeah, no, it just kickedme. I went right back to the
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link and came back through that way. Okay, anyway you were saying,
So I was driving a forty threeto fifty conversion van, and basically what
that is the right side of thedoor is actually a large man door,
and you can see out. It'sa big glass slab, so you can
see right out of it. Andwhen JJ growled, he set straight up
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and was following something, and hewas walking back and forth and pacing,
so he was actually like looking atsomething. And then it was like he
wanted out. He wanted out ofthe van, and I said, you
know what's going on, And allof a sudden it says stay doggy,
like, don't come out, staydoggy. So and then the flashlight actually
turns off right next to me too. So the mag flashlight we had rigged
up to where if you turned thelight, when you tap it, it
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will turn off, and when youtap it again you have to physically touch
them to get them to turn offand turn on. So at that same
point the flashlight went off. That'screepy as though, Man, it was
it was Yeah, it was coolthough. It was so awesome that did
something like that, that they collidetogether. I do have a big foot
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story that I have not told youon because this was. This happened after
we talked we here. I know, I've been waiting to tell you this.
This has been This was the mostterrifying big foot sighting or cryptid sighting
that I've ever had in my life. I was down in a place called
Beartown State Forest down near Carthage,New York, and I was down there
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with my girlfriend at the time.We were camping. It's a beautiful location.
There's a lot of ATV and sideby side trails and stuff like that.
And we set up a camp.We had a fire going, we're
cooking her you know, her brotherand his fiance were there and we're eating
and they get up they head out. It's getting right around like seven o'clock.
And this was in July of twothousand and twenty one, and so
(36:00):
we're sitting there and we just hadwe had sausage. I remember, I
made the sausage onions like potatoes,the hearty meal. And we got talking
about big Floop being her and shegoes, oh, yeah, so what
do you do to get a bigfoot to communicate with you? And I
said, well, there's multiple differentways. You can do a you know,
whoop howl, tree knocks, stufflike that. And she's like,
(36:20):
what's a tree knock? So Ipicked up a branch and I walked over
to a tree and I did theknock, and not even ten seconds later,
right back she goes, was thatan echo? And I went no,
I don't think so, so letme do a pattern. So and
about ten seconds right back and she'slike, okay, who do you have
(36:43):
out there in the woods. I'mlike, I don't know anybody down here.
This is, this is, thisdoesn't happen. It was like,
it's like that fishing moment where youtake out a kid fishing and you catch
a big bass on the first cast. That doesn't happen kind of thing.
And so she looks at me,She's like, that's really creepy, and
so I was like, yeah,I I don't know what that could be.
I mean, it sounds like atree knock right back. So it
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gets about eleven o'clock at night,and all of a sudden, we start
hearing a bunch of coyotes go intolike this frenzy. They're they're chasing after
a deer or something, and theymust have caught him because it went crazy
right around eleven forty five. Andthen all of a sudden, it went
dead silent. I mean you nocrickets, no bugs, and we're in
a we're in a swamp area,no frogs, nothing. You could hear
(37:29):
a pin drop. And then allof a sudden, one of the coyotes
sounds like he's getting ripped apart.I mean, it's this blood curdling whimper
scream. Then I kid you not. There was this howl that I can
only describe as if you took ahowler monkey and a Bengal tiger and you
mix them together. And the weirdthing is you could feel the howl in
(37:52):
your chest. There was like avibration in the air, and it was
this Me and her both set straightup, and it was this instant panic.
We looked at each other and Iwas like, that is nothing that
is around here. I've heard fox, I've heard even you know, coyotes,
mountain lions, bears, I've heardeverything you could hear out there.
I've never heard anything like that inmy life. And I looked at her
and I was like, what doyou want to do. She's like,
(38:13):
I want to get out of here. And I took the tent with our
sleeping bags and everything in it,and I rolled it up into this big
giant bundle and I threw it inthe car. We left. It was
only probably maybe one hundred hundred andfifty yards from our from our camp.
Oh So I did some research onthe area and apparently there's stories that have
(38:34):
gone back there over one hundred yearsof the Bigfoot family that lives in the
area. A big Foot family thatlives in the area. They're saying that
there's like a huge family of themthat lived in that area. So I
don't know. Oh yeah, it'sit's it's a pretty I wonder. I
don't know how big Bear Town is. That's what one thing I wanted to
find out. I know one placethat I live up near is Brazier's Stafe,
(39:00):
and there's a lot of sightings upthere, like all the time.
And that's fourteen five hundred acres thestate forest, wetland. It's it's gorgeous.
Wow. Now, I believe you'vementioned you're in New York State right,
Yes, Are you near the AdironDecks still or it used to be?
Yeah? Yeah, I'm I'm stillgreat about like thirty forty five minutes
(39:21):
from the Adiron Decks, So BeartownState Forest is ten four hundred acres.
Oh wow, And that's all wetland, and it's just it's a beautiful area
to go out during the day,but at night you definitely don't feel like
you're alone out there. Very cool, very cool. What's uh, what's
(39:43):
next for Jay and j Adventures?You got anything interesting planned? I got
a lot of stuff planned. Wehave coming up on Holloway Night. We
have the Underground Railroad investigation. Thereis a museum called the Star Clark Tin
Shop in Mexico, New York.Stay tuned for more Paranormal Odyssey. That's
(40:10):
gonna be really exciting because we're gonnado a Halloween Live event overnight. There's
a lot of activity activity that we'vegotten there before. And then ten days
later we're actually going to Gettysburg,Pennsylvania to the Civil War orphanage and another
location that's kind of hidden right now. But and then there's a secret project
in the works that I can't talkabout unfortunately, but that's how sometimes.
(40:32):
Civil War Orphanage that just sounds justghosty as hale, Oh my god,
it's it's so bad. So itwas visited by Ulysses Grant during the Civil
War. This would be the placethat they would send the kids that you
know, they didn't have any survivingparents after the war and also during and
there was a headmistress that took itover who was just pure evil. If
(40:58):
a kid misbehaved, she turned thebasement into a dungeon. There was chains
shackles, that's where the kids thatwere not well behaved that they would be
placed and that's as far as theyknow that It went with them just getting
shackled there. But there's been reportsof, you know, hearing stories of
abuse. I mean, being shackledis abuse enough. But it's a very
(41:21):
active place, and I will begoing into the basement during the investigation to
see if I can talk to anyof the spirits and help anything move on.
Yeah, I'm very I'm looking forwardto that one. And I don't
know what it is, but Gettysburghas always I've always been drawn to anything
(41:42):
that has to do with Gettysburg andI don't know why. So when I
saw that, I was like,well, hell yeah. Yeah. The
one project that I am working onthat I can't talk too much about but
I can give some information is I'mworking on I'm working with a gentleman on
a video about the underground railroad andkind of a path that it takes up
(42:04):
through the North Country to Canada,and we're doing kind of a documentary about
that. Slash Paranormals History of SlashParanormal. Yeah, that's exciting. I
cannot wait for that one. It'sgonna be a lot of fun. I
agree. Been to the Gettysburg Orphanage. Nothing paranormal happened. Yeah, there's
definitely that's the people that I'm goingwith have told me there is an energy
(42:28):
there even when there's nothing going on. You definitely feel you almost feel like
I mean with those kind of locations, you feel like you stop step back
in time. The Jenny Waite House, I wish I could. Has there
ever been a place that you justrefused to go but you got their stoke
to do an investigation and you justhad this feeling like I don't need to
(42:50):
be here, so I'm not gonnado it and just back the way.
Yeah. There has been one location, Yeah, only one, And it
isn't a place that you would think. It's not like this big a sayan
asylum or prison. It was ahouse in Edwards, New York. I
(43:13):
can't give it any names, butI can tell you what happened there was
there was a gentleman that lived therewith his mother who had schizophrenia, and
spirits that are negative or demonic tendto feed off people who have disabilities or
ailments that might make them an easiertarget. And we went into that location
and I actually had to because Ido a lot of investigations on TikTok,
(43:38):
which are the entertaining ones where Ibring you guys in, I teach you
the history and I try to,you know, show if you can find
any paranormal stuff. And then there'sstuff behind the scenes that I don't there's
family homes, there's businesses that don'twant to be on live. I've done
over four hundred investigations in twenty yearsof doing this, and not all of
them have ever been live, andthis was one of them. And basically
(43:59):
I had to sent her off tothe church to get a demonologist and a
exorcist up there because there was suchan attachment to him. I remember we
were standing out in the front yardand he was in the house, probably
a good fifty yards away. Hewouldn't be able to hear us. The
windows were up, you know,in the house, he couldn't hear anything,
and we were talking and met.The second I mentioned his name,
(44:20):
he turned and he gave me thislook of like he wanted to attack me.
And she looked at me and she'slike, did you see him look
at you like that? And Iwas like, yeah, the second I
said his name and he came outand he said to his mom, He's
like, I want to hurt thisguy. And I said, okay.
Like the second he said that,I was like, okay. I said,
you know, I know this isn'tyou talking. I know that you're
(44:42):
dealing with something that you can't evenbegin to understand. And I'm really sorry
you're going through this, I said, but I'm going to send you off
to somebody else who's going to helpyou connect with the people that you need
to connect to, because you havean entity here that is much darker than
I'm able to deal with out ofmy level of expertise. And that was
that was the one that I justbasically went calling out. Yeah, I
(45:04):
mean, who could blame me?Oh God, that that possession stuff.
Man, I can't take it.I can't deal with it. It's it's
scary, it is I've I've onlyseen the person possessed once and like,
like I said, I've done overfour hundred of these. I think five
of them that we stumbled upon thatwe're demonic. They are out there,
(45:28):
but you're we don't get possessed everyother episode. I'm not going to name
any names, but we're not oneof those those shows that are gonna be
there for entertainment purposes. We're notgonna be somebody who's gonna walk in and
be like, there's something dark anddemonic here. Because the thing is like,
as I say that, and Igot my sign that says, please
don't summon your demons in my bathroom, but like, there isn't there,
(45:49):
there's not There are demonic cons outthere, but stumbling upon them are a
lot I can't say harder, butrareer to find, but they are out
there. Well, go ahead,Yeah, we're on this same bright Our
last guest, Claris Vasquash, shesaid the same thing. She said,
(46:09):
They're very rare. They are,yeah, and they're bad and you can
feel them the second you get ontothat area your body, like everybody when
you meet these people. Because I'ma psychic, I'm a psychic medium,
and I don't really talk about thatmuch because when I'm on TikTok, I
want to show people scientific proof.I don't want to be in there and
be like, oh I sense something, because I could say that about here,
(46:31):
but everybody on this earth has theability to sense things. Our bodies
have a sense in us that wecan't even begin to understand. And there
are a lot of times if you'veever been around a person and you're like
this person, I just get areally bad feeling about this person, and
it's your brain and your body feelsthat. That's how it is when you
come across the demonic entity, whenyou have that feeling of don't be here,
(46:53):
like you need to get out.And that's what happened at Hensdale.
Like I was saying, you know, is that feeling you need to get
out? Because my body, inwhatever this sense was, was telling me
if you stay here, something that'sgonna happen to you. But I did
have one thing. You said thejoke earlier and it just made me laugh,
(47:14):
and then I had one for you, and I wanted to tell you.
Did you hear about the midic,the midget psychic that escaped from prison.
I have not. He was thesmall medium at large. I had
to It's like, well, agreat episode, everybody, thanks for crying.
(47:38):
Way these people get me, somebodyneeds to. On that note,
Jack, tell everybody where they canfind you so you can find us around
different platforms. We have Change Adventureson TikTok, we have j Adventures over
(48:02):
here on YouTube and then there's alsoa jan j Adventures TikTok group on Facebook
and those are the three locations thatwe're at right now. Very cool,
very cool. And you got aHalloween special coming up, and yeah,
just in a couple of days.Yeah, yeah, Halloween is a week
from tonight. Yeah oh yeah,yeah, this is exactly a week.
(48:23):
Yeah, and that will be atthe Star Clark Tin Shop in Mexico Point,
New York, the Underground Railroad Museum. Very cool. All right,
buddy, thank you so much fortaking the time to come and hang out
with us tonight. And I appreciateyou being flexible on the late start.
And uh yeah, it's good stuff. Man. I appreciate you guys having
me and anytime. I love talkingto you. And it's great to share,
(48:46):
you know, stories with people andhere everybody else's stories too. Well.
It was a pleasure. It wasa pleasure. Thank you, and
you're welcome back anytime. But we'llsay something else that sounds good. All
right, buddy, have a goodnight. You two guys. They say
(49:06):
you don't gotta go home, butyou can't stay. No, I don't
want to. People we're all lopping. Try just chip that chid everything call
(49:45):
it, ride back back joy forme, Joy to stay right there,
call it right away. That's consisisssssssssssssssssssssssssssss has and hasssss
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