PO EP:279 Very Disturbing Hauntings

On this episode we welcome Tim and Kate from Forever Investigating Beyond back to the show. This was actually Tim’s birthday, so we were happy he decided to spend a bit of it with us. They shared some more encounters, and we just had a great time. Hope you enjoy. 


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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
I was listening to the story about It was the
story of a family in Washington and the little boy
called the big Foot the cowboy man, and he had
apparently it had made an effort to steal this kid.
And it hit me. My children were in that play
pen behind me for nothing but a mosquito net over him.

(00:23):
It could have crept up behind me and taken both
of my children and I wouldn't know.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
His father just got like a Mustang or something from Wyoming, Okay.
He had it out in the corral because he couldn't
put it in the barn with in the stalls with
the other horses that would cake and made all the
other horses nervous. At a seminal Indian work in the
horse trying to break it. Every day they had it
out in the corral. The skunky snuck up behind this
horse and grabbed.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
It bon its hind quarters.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
This particular horse that kicks out, jumps over the corral,
runs into the pair, you.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Know, to get away.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
At this point, the ranchers out there just blessed away
with the dirty, dirty sun gave us into the swamp.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
I went up there one day after that or two
days after that, I went up there and sat in
the silence up there, and I'm telling you, man, it
was free. It was crazy, you know it was. There
was a crazy vibe up there.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Still.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
I did what I could to kind of get things
under control. But I told her, I said, you need
to get off this property. I feel like, no matter
how strong you are, it's almos like standing in the ocean.
You can't stand still without moving your feet. You're going
to get knocked over eventually.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
No matter how strong.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Whatever, you can't withstand a barrage of weird spiritual energy.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
What's up, guys? How y'all doing a.

Speaker 6 (01:51):
Thank you?

Speaker 5 (01:54):
Happy birthday?

Speaker 7 (01:55):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
It's all here.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
That you get to or you chose to spend it
with us. We appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
We appreciate you guys having us on again.

Speaker 7 (02:04):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 8 (02:05):
It was always always fun, haven't y'all? Yeah, because we
hang out like you know.

Speaker 9 (02:09):
I'll go to y'all's TikTok TikTok laves and you know
we'll talk. Kate is my spirit animal. I've learned this
from her Facebook posts.

Speaker 7 (02:19):
So yes, yes, well, I was half expecting Wayne to
have his uh yellow overalls today. We'll disappointed.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
That's you. Okay, yeah, I remember. Now one of the
days I'm gonna wear them. I'm gonna wear them for
a show.

Speaker 7 (02:41):
I think you should.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
Yeah, I mean only about a half a glass of
whiskey and I might just go get them on.

Speaker 10 (02:53):
Now.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
It's Sam's birthday. We're not gonna take away from him.

Speaker 6 (02:55):
I want to thank everybody for the birthday wishes. You
guys are awesome.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
Yeah, yeah, birthdays are awesome, man, And that you do
not look sixty years old.

Speaker 9 (03:04):
No, I feel maybe I feel sixty, but had none
of the great show when I mean you're killing it.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (03:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
As we were saying guys, y'all reminded us that it
was February when y'all were on last. So it's been
a minute. If you don't mind, refresh everyone's memory, who
you are, where you're from, what you guys do, and
one at a time. Birthday boy, First, how you got
your start, and then we'll kick it over to the missus.

Speaker 6 (03:36):
Okay, So my name is Tim. We got started. I
wanted to this last year. We started the group and
we just kind of got together. We decided that it
was something that we were interested in doing. I've been
doing it for about ten years but she Kate had

(03:57):
been interested in it, but didn't really know how to
to like talk about it really because sometimes for you know,
some people, it's hard to talk about When I first started,
I started about ten years ago and I had a
friend out in Indiana on near Indianapolis. Her name is Ashley.
Her group name is Foolish Mortals Paranormal. You can find

(04:20):
her on Facebook or TikTok. And we created a public
community group. It was in the back of a witchcraft
store where we got together and created a Facebook group
for it. People were able to join, and what we
did was we brought people in who were interested in

(04:42):
the paranormal and we would have monthly meetings in the
back of this witchcraft store that they closed.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
And.

Speaker 6 (04:52):
We were able to get people in. They started, you know,
their own groups.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
We brought in our.

Speaker 6 (04:56):
Equipment so they could see what we used and what
they thought that you know.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
They should they should use as well.

Speaker 6 (05:04):
But it was it was more or less trying to
get people in to be interested in the penorle because
we I feel like there's not a whole lot of
people that you know, they don't know how to start,
they don't know where to start, So we just kind
of got them on board, let them figure out how

(05:26):
to use our equipment and get them started.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
In the penorle. So it was it was really really cool.

Speaker 6 (05:32):
We enjoyed it, and unfortunately I moved back out here,
so I'm not able to I'm not able to be
a part of the group anymore, what I'm saying. But
she's still running it, you know, she's still doing it,
which is great, and I think that's amazing.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
So yeah, but I think you bring up a really
really interesting point him about people not being for sure
or knowing exactly how to get started, and it can
be intimidating to people.

Speaker 6 (06:05):
Yeah, especially like all the equipment that's thrown in your face.
You don't know what to purchase, you don't know how
it's used, you don't know you know what it's used
in conjunction with. You know, it's more or less here
by this, here by this, here by that, and you
know what does it do and how does it work
with other pieces of equipment.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
Yeah, Kate, what about you, ma'am?

Speaker 7 (06:30):
Yeah, So, like you said, I'm Kate. I have actually
been in the Chicago area my whole life. Never been
outside of Illinois. So I do not have quite the
exposure that Tim had to the paranormal. I had always
been aware of it, been interested in it, but I

(06:50):
never really had the support of friends or family to
deep dive into it. So when Tim and I met
and we were finding that an action and that interest,
it was a great a great leap to jump into
that and gain more knowledge in the area. So when

(07:11):
we were discussing it last summer with Brian, who is
our business partner who's not here, well, these two were
all talking about how to get more people into it
and the cost of everything. So they said, well, let's
see if we can make this ourselves, and they started.

(07:33):
Tim started researching and developing things, doing prototypes, and we
just kind of built off of that and started making
run devices, response devices, and have rolled into a couple
more things that we've created.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
Yeah, as you mentioned that, I started putting them up
here for the folks to look at. I mean, let's
just go back to that one. What what what is that?

Speaker 6 (08:00):
That's a rem device that one of the one of
the investigators. That's they're called just Us Paranormal. It's a
husband and wife group and that's their logo. They wanted
that on top of their rem device. And so Kate here,
who does all the customization. She she did the best

(08:20):
she could on creating the logo that they sent us
for her to make, and.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
I think she did a really good job. That looks great.

Speaker 8 (08:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (08:31):
Yeah, everything that we do is she she customizes it
by hand.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
It's you know, yeah, we.

Speaker 7 (08:37):
Don't use a laser engraver or anything. I like having
that artistic part to it. You put a little bit
of yourself in it when you do it yourself person.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
Yeah, it does make it personal, and it makes it
each of them at one of one, you know exactly.
It's not copied. There's little flaws and imperfections and in
each and every one of them. I think that's awesome.

Speaker 6 (09:00):
Yeah, And we have a couple pieces of devices here
with us tonight so we can kind of show them
off in person how they work.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
If you guys don't mind.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
Yeah, it'd be awesome. So what are we looking at here?

Speaker 7 (09:14):
That one's one of our music boxes. It is the
most recent device that we have added to our website.
They yeah, that's some flowers. We customized that for them,
and it is a it's a motion detector and I'll
play a music box sound when it.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
Detects motion, that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
So it does, it does detect.

Speaker 6 (09:46):
I've I've test, I test every piece of equipment out
that we make, and that does detect up like six
to ten feet away from it. And if you actually
stand it up to where that sensors facing you, it'll.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Detect further away as well.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
So like standing it up or putting in a hallway
where you're you know, it'll detect motion straight down the hallway.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
Yeah, I'm so stupid. There ain't no way I can
make anything like that. That takes some skill, steady actual
motion detector. I mean I have an Amazon account, That's
what I do.

Speaker 8 (10:26):
We need to have an FIB.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
So what is this.

Speaker 6 (10:33):
That's our response device if you want to think of
like the flux too from Ghostop. It's just a little
bit different. Again, like I said, everything that we do
is customized. So Paranormal Party Crashers is one of the
groups that support us as well in purchasing our equipment.
And this one has two motion detectors on each side

(10:57):
and based on the questions that you asked, they are
made for closed any questions like yes or no, male
or female and depending on you know, the answer that
the spirit wants to give you. It can move to
either side of the device and either light up the
green light or the red light.

Speaker 8 (11:17):
See that one's cool as hell too. I love I
love that one.

Speaker 9 (11:20):
When I saw this picture, when I opened up this
email and I saw this one, I was like, freaking'
rock on with that one. That one's bout far my
favorite one. It's the cutest little ghost.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (11:35):
We love doing all the logo. I love doing all
the logos and then being able to incorporate the color
on some of them is I think it just adds
a little bit of pop to it that you wouldn't
normally see on other devices.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
Now, this is a motion detector too, right.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah, it's the same it's the same device.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
Yeah, okay, awesome. And we got one more here.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
So that's our rem device.

Speaker 6 (12:01):
The We can't call it a rampot anymore because you know, uh,
legal reasons, but round device. It's a proximity sensor. So
it creates an electromagnetic field around the device itself and
anything that has an electromagnetic field around it, like us
or they claim spirits do. Once it breaks that field,

(12:25):
then it'll it'll trigger the lights.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
In the sound awesome. Yeah, very cool. And uh yeah,
we'll give you guys a chance to share some of
your other stuff here in a minute. But for now,
if y'all don't mind, let's get into some of the
spooky shit. What have you guys been up to since

(12:48):
you were on last any new investigations anything planned? Uh yeah,
to tell us some weird stuff.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, So we went to.

Speaker 6 (13:00):
Waltonhouse out in Indiana and we did overnight investigation there
and I'm gonna tell you that place is absolutely off
the hook. If you guys want to go and you
guys want a great place to investigate, I recommend that place.
I'm still going through video. I'm trying to make a
YouTube video out of it right now. I do have
some shorts up on our TikTok. But the amount of

(13:22):
EVPs in just an hour and a half into the
investigation that we got on our voice recorders and camera
is insane. And we also heard in person like a
female moaning noise and it was we were doing an
s the session behind me. Brian was sitting in front

(13:42):
of me, and I took the headphones off because one
of the spirits told me to kill myself.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
On the s the session.

Speaker 6 (13:53):
But yeah, I took my headphones off and no more
than ten minutes later, I heard a female directly behind
me and I brain heard it. And the people who
are on our TikTok live hurt as well. It was
really weird and it gave me chills.

Speaker 8 (14:08):
When you were those disembodied voices, It's just, yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
That's insane, man. It actually said for you to hurt yourself. Yeah,
what were the actual words?

Speaker 3 (14:21):
It just said kill yourself.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
Damn.

Speaker 8 (14:25):
I mean, they're spirits, they're just they're.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
Just they're just assholes.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (14:29):
Yeah, Well, I think because we were sitting in the
nursery area of the home. It was it's actually like
a double sized walking closet off of the main master bedroom,
and that's where the owners, the original homeowners back in
the eighteen sixties, they had their nursery, and so I

(14:50):
think they were just upset that we were in their
nursery area.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Yeah. I mean I've been upset before too, But I
don't tell nobody to go kill theirselves.

Speaker 8 (15:00):
Dead, Wayne, They don't really know what they're saying.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
How do you know you've been dead before, Tiffany, I know, geez,
you guys brought up the method method. I've y'all know,
I've never done an investigation, never been a part of any.
I think they're interesting as hell, but I'm a chicken
and I don't want to take nothing home with me.
But the more people I have on talking about the

(15:26):
is SDEs st is method, however you pronounce it, the
more I'm just really so intrigued by it. If you
don't mind, maybe Kate could take this one. Yeah, those
for those out there that don't that aren't familiar with
that method, could you explain it?

Speaker 6 (15:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (15:44):
Absolutely so, the ustest method. I don't know a whole
lot of history behind it, but I do know that
it involves having a spirit box, which is a device
that will flip through radio frequencies, and some of them
do AM or FM. You can scroll forward or backward

(16:04):
and have different speeds in which it scrolls through them,
and you connect that to noise canceling headphones. A lot
of people will sit there with like a blindfold on,
so that it reduces more of the sensory aspects that

(16:25):
you have when you're sitting there. You know that way,
you're very fully immersed in the auditory part of it.
And you're usually sitting in one room and a person
is in another room or close by where they can
ask questions. The person that is wearing the headphones will
sit there listening and repeat what they hear. So you

(16:46):
could ask a question like, you know, did you die here,
how old are you? Whatever you might want to inquire
to the spirits.

Speaker 5 (16:55):
And the person that's got the headphone, the noise canceling
headphones and the blob on, they have no idea what
you just asked, but they're hearing things like these words
coming through. And to see it done and done right,
it's just jaw dropping because that person that there's no
way they can hear. I mean, if you're being honest

(17:17):
and you're really you know, using the right stuff, there's
no way you can hear. But to see these people
answer the questions, it's just it's mind blowing. It's so awesome.

Speaker 6 (17:28):
Well, I'm going through the footage right now, and like
we're creating a YouTube video and I'm only responding when
Brian's asking questions, and so it's like, you know, I'm
not just spinning out words.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
It's it's it's crazy how it works. I'm sorry, I
didn't mean to cut you off.

Speaker 7 (17:45):
You're okay, You're all right.

Speaker 9 (17:47):
No, I was just gonna say, when it connects and
all the pieces line up, you know, when the question's fat.

Speaker 8 (17:52):
I mean, it really is. It's like you just totally,
like Kate.

Speaker 9 (17:57):
Said, immerse yourself in the auditory and you don't know
what's going on around you, and I mean they're using
you as their mouth.

Speaker 7 (18:06):
Really yeah, and doing while he was doing that is
when we also got those EVPs, because not only were
we doing it on TikTok Live, we were also recording
it with our cameras, and like he said, we've got
snippets of it on our TikTok page. But you can

(18:26):
very clearly hear it say like no go and then
immediately after that, Tim is repeating it, and he's got
no idea that this is going on.

Speaker 8 (18:36):
I want to do that so bad.

Speaker 6 (18:39):
Yeah, So about what she just said, I'm going through
the footage trying to make a YouTube video, and like
I said, but you can hear a whisper behind me
that said go, and like five or six seconds later
it comes through on this sphear box as well, because
I end up repeating it. So it's I don't know,

(19:03):
it gives me chills to talk about it gives me
chills to listen to it. It's I've never I've never
in my life seen it or heard it happen like
that before, but for an EVP that you can hear
on a voice recorder and then come through a spear
box five seconds later, and then I repeat it is

(19:24):
I've never had it happen before.

Speaker 9 (19:26):
No, And it's it's a strange phenomenon when that happens
because they're using not only your devices, but they're using
you as the device. I must a complete I've seen
it where they've used it just to complete a full sentence.

Speaker 8 (19:40):
They'll use the device and the person. It's wild stuff. Yeah,
they'll be awesome.

Speaker 11 (19:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (19:49):
One of the other things that we did while we
were at the Ashra Walton house was Tim came up
with this idea of while we were driving there actually
where he's.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
Like, well, stay tuned for more parents normal odyssey.

Speaker 7 (20:05):
You know, this is our first time doing an estis method,
and we kind of made it a mini Estis where
the person had the headphones on with the spirit box
and we did a paranormal hide and seek. Oh, so
everybody kind of like split up. You know, we're in
the house, the lights are off, and all the person

(20:26):
that was seeking had was the headphones, the spirit box
to ask questions, and the recorder the camera. So they're
going around and we all took a turn. So it
was kind of neat to do because I'd never done
anything like that. All you have is this little like
two by three screen that you're looking in the dark

(20:46):
and then asking the spirits questions like am I close?
Is there somebody in this room? And I have such
a hard time hearing the spirit box and deciphering what
they're saying. I was shocked when I actually got familiar words.
Like when I was doing it, I came up to
a room and I was like, you know, is there

(21:08):
somebody here?

Speaker 6 (21:09):
And I got the word.

Speaker 7 (21:10):
Fortunately, it's like that affirmation, that affirmative yeah, nod that
there is somebody there. So I went in the room
and then and then I found Brian, so's so cool.
So it kind of gave us all a chance to
try that without it being so serious, and so I'm
just sitting at one spot and we're just asking questions, right.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
It was really fun. We really enjoyed that.

Speaker 9 (21:37):
It does add because it doesn't have to be so serious, right,
you know you think they want God to be serious
all the time.

Speaker 6 (21:44):
Oh well, they get the same things over and over
again every single night, and they're like, you know, it's
like people attaching wires to a monkey and you walk in.
You're using all this equipment and you expect spirits to
be able to talk to you.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
How it works? You know?

Speaker 9 (22:03):
Yeah? Well so yeah, it's like plus they always get asked, well,
how did you die?

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Right?

Speaker 5 (22:09):
So negative, Like I just got all these images of
monkeys with wires on them. Kind of threw me for
a minute.

Speaker 8 (22:21):
That's funny.

Speaker 5 (22:24):
Is that the only investigation you guys have gotten to
do since?

Speaker 7 (22:28):
Yeah, March we kind of took off. You know, it
was Tim's birthday. I took him to a concert from
a Christmas present, So we did that with his daughter
and my brother, and then we did the investigation. Now
we're doing a podcast with you. I think we have
another one on Monday.

Speaker 6 (22:45):
But we have three.

Speaker 7 (22:46):
Different locations next month that we're really excited for.

Speaker 5 (22:49):
Okay, what are those?

Speaker 6 (22:52):
We're going to Pinelawn Rehab Center. It's down south of Champagne.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Illinois, Suder, Illinois, Illinois. Sorry, and then that's April twelfth.

Speaker 7 (23:04):
Yeah, we're meeting a couple people from Indiana Start Paranormal
and who's your Paranormal are going to be joining us
and we are actually going to bring our oldest daughters
with us. So mine will be turning twelve and it'll
be her first investigation. She's been very into it lately
and she's very excited.

Speaker 6 (23:26):
And then mine she's seventeen, so she'll be eighteen in July.
But yeah, she goes with She's been going with me
for a couple of years now, so she's been on
three or four different investigations with me.

Speaker 5 (23:39):
You know, that brings up a really interesting question that
something I haven't given a whole lot of thought. Do
you guys have a recommendation as to an age to
win to introduce your kids? Because you said twelve, I
think twelve if the kid is interested in it, I
think that's a great age. But five six, Yeah, now

(24:01):
maybe not have you ever thought about that?

Speaker 7 (24:04):
Well, so my kids, I've always been in like a
horror junkie and into all the weird stuff, So my
kids have kind of grown up around it. Not that
I let them watch the stuff with me, but they've
been exposed to it. They've seen you know, the pictures
and the stuff on a TV when we paus it,
so it wasn't anything out of the normal for them.

(24:25):
But when we started talking about investigations and making equipment,
I think that helped bridge a lot of the gap
between like, well, it might just be a movie versus
it's something that's actually happening, and made it more comforting
to know that, like, oh, hey, you know, this is
how it works, this is what we're doing and why

(24:45):
we're doing it. And I think because my daughter was
eleven and a half when we started talking about all
this stuff, and she she was a little in shirt first,
but then she like, she's been really into it. And
Brian has been taking his two am i oldest to
the cemeteries to go do some many investigations.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
Yeah, because I mean with my group Manimal, we tell
people it's especially our Manimal outings their family friendly. You know,
you can bring your kids, But I just I don't know,
but ours may be a little bit different because we
can just camp. I mean, I think most kids enjoy camping.

(25:28):
They don't have to go out in the woods. Yeah,
look for bigfoot, But I took my son Eli. The
first couple of times he went, I think he was sixteen,
so that's that's old enough. The time that they if
the encounter that I share the most when people ask me, like,
the most scared I've ever been in the woods. There

(25:50):
was four of us. One of them was a thirteen
year old boy. He was one of our members, grandsons
and most kids. He's tough, talked a big game when
the sun was up, you know, and then when the
night went, when the sun went down, it was dark,
it was time to go for a walk, and I
don't feel good, you know, I don't know. I want

(26:12):
to hung back with him, and something crazy happened and
I pull I pulled. That's the only time I've ever
pulled my gun on an investigation. That's how afraid I was.
And he was thirteen years old, you know, So sometimes
I wonder was that too young for him to experience that?

Speaker 7 (26:33):
Well with that one, it could also be that even
on a just a regular camping trip, if you're out there,
something happened as well, So it I mean, and it
could happen to him, you know, even younger if you
were just camping.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
That's true.

Speaker 7 (26:47):
I mean you kind of look at it that way.
I know for paranormal there are a lot of places
that I've heard recently that are doing more kid friendly investigations.
So they may not be like an all night thing,
but they'll do like a few hours into the evening
to let the kids that are wanting to investigate and

(27:08):
learn more about it get that experience.

Speaker 9 (27:11):
And I think it's cool to do it that way
because it does kind of ease them. Because I know
Carrie is what she'll be sixteen in October, and she
she's totally into like every single horror movie.

Speaker 8 (27:24):
She wants her mother to watch it with her.

Speaker 9 (27:26):
Her mother would not be able to go to the
bathroom alone if she did, so she has her sisters, Okay,
so but she I mean, it's just so something that
she would totally totally want to do at the you know, fifteen,
at fourteen, you know, just because she's so immersed in
that world.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (27:48):
Well, and Tori west Off, so she owns she just
purchased a Haunted Sleepers mortuary down in Iola, Kansas, And
we're going in April twenty six as well as a Tember.
We're going to be meeting up with Sunflower investigator that
was in your chat there, and we're meeting.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Up with him in September.

Speaker 6 (28:09):
But Tori like she she will create like a safe
room for them. So if it does get dark out
and they start getting scared, well then there's a room
with a light that has board games or or whatever.

Speaker 7 (28:23):
They different things to distract them.

Speaker 6 (28:26):
So that way, you know, they're in an environment where
the light's always on. They got a TV, they got
board games, they got different stuff that they can do
just kind of distract them from what's really happening.

Speaker 9 (28:37):
That's cool, that's a great idea. Yeah, I've never heard
of anybody doing that.

Speaker 8 (28:43):
That's swell.

Speaker 6 (28:44):
Yeah, she's she's awesome people. We can't wait to go
see her place in April.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
So, Tiffany, did you just swell?

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Swell?

Speaker 7 (28:56):
Are you giving?

Speaker 8 (28:57):
Are you gonna like give me a hard time?

Speaker 5 (29:00):
Moving on?

Speaker 8 (29:02):
Well, it's gonna be.

Speaker 5 (29:04):
This is gonna be a swell episode. Uh you guys,
do y'all have a dream destination that you would like
to and I'm talking worldwide, not just in the States,
that you would like to investigate, And if so, why
start with the birthday boy?

Speaker 6 (29:24):
So my dream location is trans Allghany. It's always been
Trans Allghany, and we actually had an opportunity to go
this year in September, and we are going.

Speaker 5 (29:37):
And now real quick, Tim, I'm sorry to interrupt, but
for those that don't know, I've heard Trans Alleghany. But
tell us where that is and what it is.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (29:46):
So Trans Allegheny's in West Virginia. It's a facility that
was opened during you don't remember, early nineteen hundreds, but
they did the first lobotomies there. They also did elect show,
shock and water treatments.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Basically, if you.

Speaker 6 (30:07):
Ever seen House on Haunt Hill, that's kind of what
it is. Tens of thousands of people died there. So
many people had passed away that they had to build
what they call a body shoot and it's like a
concrete walkway that goes underground because they couldn't continue to

(30:30):
take the bodies through the front door anymore because the
amount of people that were dying from from all the
the medical treatments and you know, just everything that they
were doing.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
And I'm very.

Speaker 6 (30:45):
We're very lucky that we, you know, like just us paranormal.
They're the ones who invited us. We made the rempod
for him, and a couple months later they reached out
to us said hey, we're booked if you want to come,
and I'm like, okay, so we're just paying our fee
in and they got us in there, which is outstanding.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
How cool is that?

Speaker 7 (31:05):
Are you going to go to the Morgue?

Speaker 6 (31:08):
Yeah, I'm gonna The place is so big. I don't
like people say that you can't visit the entire place
in one night because it's only eight hours. But I
definitely want to go to the Morgue. And I definitely
want to go see the Body Shoe because that's they
say is the most active. But you know, just being
in the building alone, just just looking at it on

(31:28):
Google is it's phenomenal.

Speaker 5 (31:31):
Tiffany Where was the place? We We had someone on
talking about being in the Morgue and laying and one
of the the body was it there? Would you do that? Tim?

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Absolutely?

Speaker 6 (31:52):
I went to I went to Mason. We went to
bened before it got sold and not us, but my
other group did. And they had in bombing tables there
and I got up on one and I laid down

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and I was like, hey.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
And me the history right, Yes, it's no but but
when I say, get in one of those drawers. I mean,
you're the only one in the room, pitch black, shut
your ass in there. You can't get out until someone
pulls you out. You would do that? Yeah, I'm so claustrophobic.

(32:35):
I mean I want to cry right now thinking about that.
I mean, it's yah. I mean I can't imagine. I mean,
if hell was different for everybody, that's my hell, being
stuck in a closed quarters, pitch black, not being able
to move. Okay, Oh, I can't even watch cave videos.

(32:58):
I tried to watch one today as a matter of fact,
and I couldn't do it.

Speaker 6 (33:02):
Those are very popular on YouTube right now, by the way, Yeah,
yeah they are.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
Yeah, I just they're idiots. I'm sorry, Kate, your turn, man.

Speaker 7 (33:12):
I Actually I've always loved castles. So I think anywhere
in Europe, you know, going somewhere that has all that history,
all the events that might have taken place there and
doing an investigation would be.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
Be headings and people. Yeah, so much history over there,
like cool violent history too.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (33:36):
Yeah, seeing that, and I think that's what I think,
that's what makes me like I would love I've seen
so many videos on trans Allegany I think I would
love to go just to say, Okay, I was physically
in this massive building where all this happened, right, and
just to go, you know, room to room within the

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parameters of what we were looking.

Speaker 8 (34:01):
And I mean, I'm with.

Speaker 6 (34:03):
You because you know, there's been plenty of times where
I've gone investigating and nothing's happened. But being being in
the building itself, the history in the building, everything that's
happened in the building, like it's it's just the experience
of being there, right, And even if you have nothing
to share with anybody, you know, it's just it's the experience.

(34:25):
And how many times do you get to say that, hey,
i' been the transallghanty.

Speaker 9 (34:29):
Exactly and see and that's not far from me, that's
three hours away from me. So I mean, maybe, gosh,
let me know how much the fee is and I
can like meet.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
I would definitely say yes.

Speaker 6 (34:44):
But the people that booked it, they we had asked
for somebody else to come and they said no.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
So it's not just it's not just us.

Speaker 6 (34:54):
There's three or four different groups coming as well.

Speaker 7 (35:00):
Making a group thing next year to go again, because
it for some of the big places like that, it
does cost quite a bit, So having a pup of
people that you can split that with does make a
difference really.

Speaker 6 (35:12):
So early next year we'll be going, we'll be hosting
other groups to come with us.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
So we'll keep in mind.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
Tim, something you said just was spot on, you know,
talking about not every time that you go, will you
have something happened. It's the exact same in Bigfoot. Uh.
On these investigations, you more times than not you're not
going to have activity, But like you said, you're there,

(35:44):
you're experiencing it. It's a memory that you created. You're
with us, especially you're in the woods, you're getting exercise
on your hikes, you're getting fresh air, camaraderie of friends
and stuff. There's so much more that goes into to
the stuff you make lifelong friends. You know, people that

(36:06):
you would have never been friends with, you would have
never met, right if they're looking for this shared interest.

Speaker 6 (36:12):
Well, and and with our YouTube channel, it's new. I
mean I think we only have like twenty followers. Yeah,
so it's not really big at all.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
And you know, but.

Speaker 6 (36:25):
I'm kind of leaning towards like just everywhere we go,
I want to make a YouTube video and if we
capture something or not. Like our videos out there, we're
gonna share it with you, but this is our experience.
And you know, like you with Bigfoot, you go out
in the middle of the woods and and you're sleeping
in a tent with your son or you know, you're

(36:45):
experiencing it with your son, and it's it's it's something
that you don't ever get to experience the same way again.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
So absolutely exactly.

Speaker 9 (36:54):
I think that's I think that's it's cool that you're
taking your children because that is something that they were
introduced to the right way by you guys, and it's
something that they'll always remember.

Speaker 6 (37:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, instead of just sitting at home
watching scary movies and saying, oh, well is this real?

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Is this not real?

Speaker 5 (37:14):
You know, they don't know, But honestly say, my parents
never took me to a haunted house or to look
for Bigfoot. I wish the had.

Speaker 6 (37:23):
I went camping though, and my stepdad so instead of
calling it like the monster in the woods, he always
called it the Galiwob And so we'd be camping mill
of the night and he'd be like, well, you need
to come by the fire. Always a galley Wob's gonna
get you in, so like freak me out. And I
had to sit by the fire with the adults until

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I went to bed.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
So Gallie Wob is that Wow? Did he say what
they were?

Speaker 6 (37:52):
No, he just said there are the monsters in the woods,
boogers Booger's.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
They call them down here in the South burger burgers.

Speaker 7 (38:07):
Well, it's real nice having the kids exposed to all
this stuff because not only are they like getting the
exposure to different things like that the paranormal and what
can be out there, and having them start asking questions
and start thinking, you know, and trying to process things more,

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they're actually helping us with the business side as well.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Awesome.

Speaker 7 (38:32):
So like we this is one of our new things
is we created some stickers. Oh yeah, we have on
our site.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Cool.

Speaker 7 (38:42):
My daughter, my oldest one, saw that and she was like, hey,
can I can I try making one? So I set
her up on my computer, got her set with uh
what she needed, and just let her go to town
and it actually turned out really good. And I think
we're going to be making that into a sticker as well.

Speaker 8 (39:02):
That's awesome.

Speaker 9 (39:04):
Yeah, has had some devices with you you wanted to
show yeah.

Speaker 6 (39:11):
Yeah, so this one, I think Tyler's still in here,
but this one is his music box that we're currently
working on. This one has batteries in it, so I
can kind of if you don't mind, I can show
how it works. So we just implemented this new led
light in the front just so you know when you
turn on and it's dark, you can see it, but

(39:32):
also let you know that it's on. So and it
also comes down in three phases, so it's going to
play the music box tone in three different phases. Uh
as it detects motion, so you're gonna hear it cut
off and then it'll detect motion again and continue the tone.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
So damn, that's cool. Stay tuned for more Paranormal Odyssey.
I'd give anything for it to go off right now.

Speaker 7 (40:17):
Ghost in the room.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Yeah, so this is uh, there it goes. That's so
that's the third phase.

Speaker 6 (40:24):
But it plays an old, an old music tone and
it takes three double A batteries, so very easy to
change out and very uh cost effective when it comes
to batteries.

Speaker 5 (40:41):
Now, when you sell something like that, what what's your price?

Speaker 6 (40:44):
Okay, So these non customized music boxes, they're sixty bucks
and I know, like the music boxes that you find
online on your big time websites. They go anywhere from
two to three dollars, uh, And they are exactly the
same as those, except it doesn't have like the mechanical

(41:08):
spinning thing on it. But that's the only difference between
those and these is that there's no mechanical uh, no
mechanical exterior to it. But it uses the same exact
piece of equipment that those use. So we just sell
them for a much more affordable cost.

Speaker 9 (41:30):
Which is great because that's another hindrance of getting in
the paranormal investigation field, is the cost is cost.

Speaker 6 (41:37):
Yeah, this is a good I'll let take that. I'll
let Kate talk about this one. But this is a
great a great device to show off to you guys,
just to kind of show what we can use to
make devices.

Speaker 7 (41:57):
So this one is our run device, so that one's
but that one is what detects breaks in the electromagnetic
field and we'll light up these lights. This one is
obviously customized. This one is Brian's personal one, which we
are actually still working on. He is a hunter, so

(42:22):
the deer skull feathers and then on his last trip,
this last fall. He took some of the deer teeth
out and we're going to be putting it around the edge.
We do all sorts of customizations, not just the logos,
but we can do any type of design that you
want on there. I've picked up other items such as

(42:45):
like the leather wrapping or you know, we can do
any type of you know, false floral products on there
that you want. So we're trying to reach a couple
more people and make more options for them at but
you know, everything we do is the wood burned look. Obviously,

(43:06):
this is another one that has the coloring on there.
And then we just have our you know, created by f.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
I be paranormal and now I'm sorry, go ahead, Tim.

Speaker 6 (43:20):
So again, like she said, she we're gonna be poxying
the deer teeth around the top, so it's going to
encircle the lid here.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
And yeah, like it's.

Speaker 6 (43:33):
We can we can do anything, we can, we can
create anything. And then I think that's what makes us
stand out more than you know, anybody else that's on
the market right now, is that you can purchase a
non customized device and it's still not going to look
the same as the one that we just.

Speaker 5 (43:50):
Sold yesterday and it's gonna call right.

Speaker 6 (43:54):
And and it's there's sixty bucks for a non customized.

Speaker 7 (43:57):
That's what we like about the wood part is that
you get that burning on there and every everyone has
different textures, different rings on it from the wood, and
it gives you a different look. And the fact that
these are our wood, they're natural. They can go with
any decor and sit out as a conversation piece. Yeah.

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A lot of the big name brand ones are the
three D printed or the plastic ones, and they just
you know, it's not something you want sitting on a
shelf or on your fireplace mantle.

Speaker 6 (44:31):
This you can put on your fireplace mantle and people
walk in and look at it and say, wow, that's cool.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (44:36):
You know?

Speaker 6 (44:37):
And it's a talking piece. And not only that, but
you know you can decorate your house with it too
and let it sit out instead of hiding it in
a box.

Speaker 5 (44:47):
Yeah, that's that's exactly what I was thinking. I would
display that.

Speaker 6 (44:52):
Yeah, I would too. I mean, we have stuff sitting
out downstairs. We have our we have our our prototypes
on top of a shelf and the ones that I
made originally, they're sitting on top of the shelf, so
we don't even use our prototypes.

Speaker 7 (45:10):
To see how far we come from.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
Now, you guys have a website, right, people could go
and purchase these.

Speaker 6 (45:16):
Yes, our website is fib cronmollc dot com.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
It'll there's different options in there.

Speaker 6 (45:26):
It will tell you about our background, how we started
fib There's a shop in there. You can look at
our upcoming investigations. And we were also getting ready to
go next weekend to an in home investigation. So if
if anybody wants us to come do an in home investigation,
you can contact us on there as well.

Speaker 5 (45:48):
Awesome, very cool. Now y'all are in Illinois. How far
would y'all travel? You just try to stay in state
on something like that if we, I think.

Speaker 7 (46:01):
It would depend I mean timing and how how quickly
they would want us to come out. Because we both
do work full time. We both have a family that
we need to take care of. Make sure that you
know people can watch the kids, or that you know
it's not in our crossing with something else we have

(46:23):
on our calendar.

Speaker 6 (46:25):
Yeah, but to answer your question, I think that we
would go anywhere within the United States. Obviously, the we'd
have to schedule something if you need something right away. Unfortunately,
we wouldn't be able to say yes or no on that.
But if we if we're able to schedule something, you know,

(46:45):
a couple of weeks to month out or something, we
can definitely talk about it. So, okay, we have littles.
I mean, her youngest is five, So yeah.

Speaker 8 (46:58):
Yeah, we have a little stay come first.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
Yeah, I'm gonna sell mine, I think.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
So.

Speaker 7 (47:11):
One thing I did want to show you guys, because
I don't think we had it last time and we
hadn't started making any of them yet was pendulum boards.
Oh okay, so it's uh, it's a board that you
use with a pendulum, which is a chain with usually
a stone or a metal piece with a point on it,

(47:32):
and you ask questions and the spirits are supposed to
move it to letters. We've got the numbers here as well,
and then yes, no, maybe, and rephrase. So this one's
probably a little bit more complicated of a board.

Speaker 5 (47:48):
And you see I would hang that up in my
office right rights, badass.

Speaker 7 (47:54):
And then I did make a little simpler one. It's
a little hard to see the I want to still
in progress.

Speaker 5 (48:01):
Did you say simple? That's intricate.

Speaker 7 (48:04):
Yeah, okay, I'm none as simple as far as the
questions or you know, it doesn't have that full alphabet
on there. But this one's just a simple yes no,
maybe rephrase one and then I customize any design in
the center that you want. So this, this one's actually
going to be for me. I wanted something a little

(48:25):
more intricate. And see how long it took me to make.

Speaker 5 (48:28):
Now, Katie, hold that sideways. Let's see how thick that is.
Now that's just regular? Would yeah, I mean what is it? Uh?

Speaker 7 (48:37):
We actually go to we get this one, Michael's, you know,
we go to Michaels, we get.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
These We just.

Speaker 7 (48:45):
Yeah, I mean it's it's really easy to make for us.
We I enjoy doing the designs on it.

Speaker 5 (48:51):
Let's say that other one, that's what would you what
do you sell that for?

Speaker 9 (49:00):
I think they're thirty s That ain't bad at all.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (49:04):
So like this one has the moon phases. This this
one's a little more intricate one. We've got more moon phases.

Speaker 5 (49:12):
Yeah, you say, that's cool as hell.

Speaker 7 (49:14):
Yeah, and then this one's you know, different glittering, different fonts,
you know, kind of simple for people that you know,
don't want all the the detail or couterments. They think
it might interfere with what they're getting from spirits.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Yes, I did.

Speaker 7 (49:36):
It's the design, yea, my head.

Speaker 8 (49:41):
That's why you need a female.

Speaker 7 (49:46):
And then to go along with investigations, you know, you
always need some way to keep records, keep notes of
what you're doing. So we also have journals. Yeah, so's
it's a basic basic journal. But again, were we keep
with the wood theme. This one says sky above, earth below,
piece within that.

Speaker 5 (50:07):
I love little notebooks. I have so many of them.
I take notes and I heard I've heard Cliff Brackman
say say those are beautiful.

Speaker 8 (50:16):
I love the one with the silhouette of the.

Speaker 5 (50:19):
Girl, little girl.

Speaker 6 (50:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (50:22):
I heard someone ask Cliff Brackman one time what the
most valuable piece of research equipment is and he said,
a notebook in a pinion, take notes exactly. That's awesome.

Speaker 8 (50:39):
Yeah, you always get back to those.

Speaker 5 (50:42):
Yeah, guys, give you a few minutes to get some
more questions in. We we've only got a few. We'd
like to get a couple more. But before we get
to the questions, I want to ask and I probably
asked you guys last time because I always do when
we have tiring on investigators on. But I want to
know the most scared, even if it's the same one

(51:04):
you said last time. Remind just the most scared you
have ever been on an investigation. And we'll start with Tim.

Speaker 6 (51:14):
So I know last time I talked about the Oxygen
Hall down in Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
I mean, I'm still gonna.

Speaker 6 (51:27):
Say that if you if you weren't on the live
last time we were in here. We were at the
Oxgon Hall in Kentucky and we were all down in
the basement and we were trying to communicate with the
spirit that we saw on our SLS camera. It was
like climbing along the walls. It was really weird.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
But it got later in the night.

Speaker 6 (51:50):
We were still trying to communicate with it and we
heard something being scooted across the.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Floor upstairs, and.

Speaker 6 (52:00):
Uh it was It was loud, and I have it
on I have it on audio, so I think it's
on my my other YouTube. I gotta transfer it over
to my other one. But anyway, it scared me. Obviously
it was unexpected. But my sister started crying because she

(52:22):
she thought that, uh, something was gonna hurt her or us.
Like she didn't know what was going on, and obviously
you don't at the time, but you know, it took
me a minute to kind of gather my my my
bravery and say let's go upstairs.

Speaker 7 (52:39):
So mine would still be my very first investigation because
I had no idea what to expect. I I had
no experience in it, and you know, all you all
you have to go off of is you know, TV
and movies and what typically happens during investigations and things

(53:02):
of that nature. So I had no idea if I
was going to see something or if something was going
to touch me, and I was terrified to go into
the basement there. So that was one spot we did
not go to. But now that I've been on more,
we actually are going to make plans in the future
to go back to Whispers in Indiana. So I've you know,

(53:24):
I've come a long way, and I feel like the
more comfortable I get, the more evidence we're receiving.

Speaker 5 (53:31):
Now, have have you either have you ever been touched?

Speaker 7 (53:36):
I have not.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
No.

Speaker 5 (53:38):
No, okay, wow, what about black full body apparitions?

Speaker 7 (53:46):
I've not seen anything, though I've seen shadows.

Speaker 6 (53:50):
We just went to Edinburgh in November of last year
and I were sitting in a room and I was
looking down the hallway and I saw a shadow. But
I've seen shadows a couple a couple of times, but yeah,
not not anything full bodied. No, okay, waiting for I mean,

(54:11):
that's one of the pieces of evidence that everybody wants, right,
is a full body.

Speaker 7 (54:18):
I don't know if I would want that, but I mean, yeah,
when we were it was the first time I used
the laser grid pens. So the pens that emit like
the green dots on the wall and you can see
if somebody walks in front of them. And it just
crossed my mind sitting there, how would I react if
I actually saw something walk through that grid? And yeah,

(54:43):
I was like, I don't know, I would probably end
up running from that. The buildings exactly.

Speaker 5 (54:49):
I feel like for for paranormal investigators ghost centers, that
would be the holy Grail, like a Class A siding
would be for us in the in the Bigfoot world.
Yeah all right, uh, yeah, we got some questions that
we will go ahead and get to if you guys

(55:10):
are ready, sure. Uh, first off, before we get there, again,
Goony Googo, you're the man. Thank you for the superstickers
and the coolest name in the world, my buddy Troy.
What's what the skull was on the curtains, bruh Ill.

Speaker 7 (55:30):
So when we started creating our products and talking about
doing vendor markets and cons and actually going out and
interacting with people face to face, you know, you have
to have some type of table covering or backdrop. And
I went to the thrift store and I found this.

(55:52):
I think it's actually a tablecloth, but I absolutely loved it.
I felt like it fit right in with what we
were going for, and I picked it up.

Speaker 6 (56:00):
We also have a peg board in the back that
we keep the kids of school stuff hung up there,
like their arts and craft stuff, so we're just covering
that as well with that, so this was with it.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
I've also.

Speaker 6 (56:12):
Removed all the drywall and replaced it. We just haven't
painted yet, so all this drywall stuff is new.

Speaker 8 (56:18):
Well see good answer.

Speaker 5 (56:22):
Again from t Roy. Are these all hand made? How
thick is the wood? So the good question Troy.

Speaker 6 (56:35):
Sorry, the wood pods there, these are not handmade, No,
but they're actually pretty thick. They're they're about I don't.

Speaker 7 (56:45):
Know, a quarter to a half inch on the walls.

Speaker 6 (56:49):
And then the bottoms are pretty thin. It's it's a
really light device. It's not heavy at all. What makes
it heavy is this nine volt battery. So, but we
we do seal it with a waterproof seilers. You can
see how shiny it is, so any moisture in the
environment will help.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Keep it off of and out of the device.

Speaker 7 (57:11):
So they are not waterproof though, do not charge.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
Them all right.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
We got a couple questions from Chris, I think this
first one. She's asking like, how long does it take
to make one of these if someone was to order it.

Speaker 7 (57:32):
So most of these we create as they come in
to come in for order. We don't keep a stock
of them on the shelf. We want to make sure
that they are fresh and new for everybody that purchases one.
When we have you know, para cons coming up, or
we actually have a partnership with Toy where we're going

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to be sending her some devices, that's when we may
make a bulk creation and and have those on hand
for a little bit and then before we send them off.
But typically we get the order in and it could
take you know, three to seven days to build it,
seal it, make sure it's all dried, and then we

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ship it out.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
We do some testing as well, so we don't just
build it and.

Speaker 6 (58:19):
Send it out, but we do take a day or
two to let's say, like we'll we'll test it out.
I know a couple we took out to the cemetery.
We took seven to Edinburgh Manor and we ended up
selling those online for.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
On sale, saying these were used at Edinburgh Manor.

Speaker 7 (58:39):
And just to.

Speaker 6 (58:42):
We are having a sale fifteen percent off sale between
now and April sixth, so between my birthday and her birthday,
So for fifteen days, we're gonna have fifteen percent off
entire order. So whatever anybody gets on our website and purchases,
it could be ten different items, your entire order is
going to be fifteen percent off.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
And that awesome.

Speaker 8 (59:02):
I thought that was cool as hell.

Speaker 5 (59:06):
So I get fifteen percent off my little pendulum boards
and yes, sir, wait.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
All right?

Speaker 5 (59:14):
Moving along? Sunflower State Paranormal besides Tala.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
That trains Delgany Lunatic Asylum.

Speaker 5 (59:22):
Okay, what is another bucket list location?

Speaker 6 (59:26):
Fergins, I'm gonna go with Kate here with the castles.
I'm gonna go to Dracula's Castle. I mean I've that
that place is. It's enormous, it's creepy, it has a
ton of history.

Speaker 5 (59:40):
Yeah, stay tuned for more paranormal Odyssey.

Speaker 7 (59:50):
Mine. I have always been drawn to the Stanley Hotel.
I love the movie The Shining and to what it
you know that the fact that it's based off of
the Stanley Hotel, you know, it's just phenomenal and all
the stuff that you hear goes that happens there, you know.
I know, I don't think private investigation, but just being

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able to go there and do your own thing would
be great.

Speaker 5 (01:00:17):
I have a Shining tattoo, do you really? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
It is.

Speaker 5 (01:00:22):
It's the doing Jack Nicholson's looking through the window all night,
and that is the pretty much the only tattoo. And
I'm covered. I've got forty plus and this it's on
my leg and that's the only one that I get
complimented on. Almost once or twice a week people say

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or something like that, all shining, that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
I need. I need to get online and do like
some DNA stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:00:50):
But I have the same last name as Jack Nicholson,
so I want to see if I'm related to him.

Speaker 7 (01:00:54):
It would be sweet.

Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
Ask uncle Johnny for some money.

Speaker 7 (01:00:58):
Hell, all right, I make.

Speaker 5 (01:01:03):
My Chris my good buddy. Have you been to Waverley
Hills and Louisville.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
We have not been to Waverley Hills.

Speaker 6 (01:01:16):
I know the story behind Waverley Hills and all the
controversy that had recently happened over the years, but makes
me want to go even more because you know, I'm
glad the owners got it back and and I would
love to go visit it. And I think they only
have it open for a certain period of time because
it's it's an open facility.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
So yeah, I would love to go.

Speaker 7 (01:01:45):
Okay, hearing that question actually remind me of another bucket
list place he and I have talked about is the
Conjuring House, because that's a ton of controversy right now
and in Massachusetts, and it looks like there it may
not be of available anymore because of all the stuff
that's going on with the owner, but that would definitely
be on the bucket list to go there.

Speaker 10 (01:02:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:02:09):
Wow, Yeah, that would be very cool. I think this
one come from its tiffany. What do you think it
is with basements and addicts?

Speaker 7 (01:02:19):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (01:02:20):
Are they so much more creepy?

Speaker 6 (01:02:22):
I think I think Hollywood has something to do with that.
So you know, you you watch a movie and you
go down to an attic and the first saying that,
you know they're playing the creepy music vibe because it's
nothing but but creep. It's a creep factor, right, So
there's not a lot of lighting even when you turnto
lights and the anteg re basement and uh, these older

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basements have dirt walls or or like the crumbling concrete
walls and finish. Yeah, it's all unfinished. So I think
I think Hollywood has a lot to do with that.
You know, well, if we go down to my basement
down underneath us and it's not scary at all, but
you go down into a basement that's unfinished and it's

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all just creepy hair walls memes.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Yeah, and addicts are the same way.

Speaker 6 (01:03:16):
You know, you've seen an addic in a in a
movie and all their personal belongings are up there, things
that are attached to them are up there. So you know,
the first place people want to go is the basementere
they added when they go on investigations.

Speaker 8 (01:03:27):
So oh yeah, my host tune.

Speaker 7 (01:03:31):
My take on it too is that atticts and basements
are probably the least lived in parts of houses. You
get so much so comfortable in your kitchen, your bedrooms,
the living room, you're in there all the time. There's
so much energy and light in there. And then you
go to a spot where you might just store things
or you might just do laundry in your basement.

Speaker 9 (01:03:51):
And.

Speaker 7 (01:03:53):
The dark and the unknown is what scares people.

Speaker 9 (01:03:56):
Yeah, yeah, this is what we talked about last night,
was you know, what is it about freaking in hallways? Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:04:03):
My goshs like always are just a confinement of you know,
you're you're you're confined. There's only one way in, one
way or yeah, one way in, one way out. And
you know, I was the same way though when I
was a kid, Like if I had it was told
to go turn off a light in the kitchen because
I left it on. Guess what, My bedroom light's going on,
The hallway light's coming up, the literal room light's coming on.

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Then the kitchen light's going off, and I'm just backtracking
back to my room.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
So that's.

Speaker 7 (01:04:32):
Before you're turning off the light in the basement and
then bolting up the stairs to get up to the
kitchen where there's light.

Speaker 8 (01:04:38):
Exactly because something, something's behind you. It just is.

Speaker 5 (01:04:45):
All right. And this last question is a great example
of why Alan and myself have become such quick friends.
I asked this question of every paranormal investigator that we
have ever had, but I didn't. On this one. Alan asked,

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have you ever had an entity entity attach itself to
you and you bring it home? That's why I don't
do this shit, guys.

Speaker 6 (01:05:15):
I don't. I think at one point maybe, but I
wasn't sure.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
What it was. For a while, I was experiencing a
lot of different things, and I don't. I'm I just.

Speaker 6 (01:05:35):
I was seeing things. I was hearing things, and my
dog was seeing hearing things. So like, I'm not mentally
unstable or anything. But no, like I honestly think something
did attach to me. And I don't know if eventually
it just kind of went away on its own or

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but I still see things on the corner of my eye,
and you know, like the shadows. People, I'm like, hey,
I just thought shadows.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
You see it?

Speaker 6 (01:06:03):
And they say, well, no, I didn't see it, but
I don't know. But setting your intention before you go
into these places, just letting them know, hey, you have
to stay here. You're not allowed to go home with me.
If I'm talking to a spirit, this is the only
spirit that's able to answer me, because you obviously don't
want the mimics to answer you or or trying to

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make you think that there's something that they're not. So
setting your intention and your boundaries with spirits is important
before you go.

Speaker 5 (01:06:36):
Yeah, I hear that all the time, but there goes
why do I have to listen to what we say?
Why do they have to obey us?

Speaker 6 (01:06:47):
That's a good question, but I think I think you know,
like even with with like witchcraft stuff, you know, you
set your intention, and that's what it is so kind
of mean.

Speaker 7 (01:06:58):
People in general like you, you set your intention that
like I'm not going to interact with you. I'm not
going to you have this argument with you. I'm not
going to have this conversation with you. I'm not putting
up with the bullshit that you give me, and you
you cut them out of your life. So I think
it can be very similar with spirits because ones that
were human that you know have passed away, they probably

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still retain some of that that knowledge and react the
same way.

Speaker 8 (01:07:29):
What's like going to the woods, bigfooting.

Speaker 5 (01:07:31):
Yeah, that's one of that. I was about to say, Tiffany, Uh,
that's when that pisses me off so fucking much, because
you got these loonies that had these crazy experiences and
Bigfoot lets them see them, that they interact with Bigfoot,
they talk to Bigfoot, they hear Bigfoot fart, they get
gifts from Bigfoot and all this stuff. And why don't

(01:07:52):
I get that you're not enlightened enough. Yeah, you're in
they know your intentions. Yeah, you're you're not pure. Okay,
so you're lying to me and you're calling me a
bad person. That's what you're doing, basically judging. Yeah, anyway, sorry,

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I didn't mean That's why sometimes.

Speaker 6 (01:08:15):
It's hard to talk about people you don't know, is
are they going to judge me? You know, kind of
like it took us a little bit to talk about
it when we first met.

Speaker 7 (01:08:22):
And they don't know how people are going to react.

Speaker 6 (01:08:24):
And then come to find out like she's her whole life,
she's been interested in it.

Speaker 5 (01:08:29):
So yeah, yeah, we had one more question come in
last minute. Marian bought, what what do they say about
shadow bastards?

Speaker 6 (01:08:45):
I don't know what they say about shadow bastard.

Speaker 5 (01:08:47):
I don't know what a shadow bastard is, well, a
shadow person, I guess, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:08:56):
I think that they're just uh. I think they're the
spirits that reside in a home that prevent others from
our other spirits from being able to talk or tell
their story or communicate. So I think they're just there,
like the protectors maybe or the enforcers. As you know,

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everybody has their own thoughts on it. So you can
tell me I'm wrong or you can say I'm right.

Speaker 5 (01:09:25):
Yeah. I mean, that's the thing. There's no proof. No
one knows one hundred percent there are there are no experts.

Speaker 6 (01:09:32):
And that's why there's so many devices out there. Because
you give me that one piece of advice that allows
me to communicate, see and capture evidence of the paranormal,
I will buy that, and I.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Will no longer purchase anything else.

Speaker 6 (01:09:46):
Right, That's all I need, That's all I need.

Speaker 5 (01:09:50):
Yeah, all right, guys, take a couple of minutes or
however long you need. Tell everybody where they can find
you anything you want to promote, upcoming stuff, your website,
all of that ghost stuff. This is your chance.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:10:08):
Our TikTok is fib Paranormal and again our YouTube is
new that's also FIB Paranormal. So everything about us is
fib Panormal. You can find us on Facebook as well,
and I'll let our.

Speaker 7 (01:10:24):
Website is FIB Paranormal llc dot com. We have everything
listed on there. We've got most of our new stuff
on there as well. We are going to be having
some new items coming up, maybe not geared as much
towards investigations, but maybe a little home decor items. And

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we have some para cons coming up over the summer.
We have June, July, and August. We will be in
the Chicago para Con in June, the Gettysburg Battlefield Bash
in July, and then down in Savannah in August. So

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we got a lot of stuff coming up and we
are very excited to go meet some of the people
from those areas.

Speaker 6 (01:11:13):
We are also we're also partnered with Ghost Coast Paranormal.
They're also on TikTok and Facebook, but they actually hold
our devices as well. They do tours at the Old
Savannah in the Theater and that's extremely haunted. We're gonna
go make our way down there and investigate with them

(01:11:33):
sometime this year. But if you ever, if you ever
find yourself down in Savannah, Georgia, make sure you go.
It's ready number one, the number one tour in Savannah, Georgia,
and you can also purchase.

Speaker 5 (01:11:49):
I Love Savannah. It's so beautiful down there.

Speaker 6 (01:11:53):
Yeah, we're.

Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
Yeah, all right, guys, thank you so much for hanging
out with us tonight. Uh, Tim, your birthday is almost over, buddy,
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
Man, I don't want to do tomorrow. I'm not gonna
be treated as good tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (01:12:14):
Don't that suck? Notice that? God, you got thirty five
more minutes, buddy, eat it up. Okay, No, he's.

Speaker 7 (01:12:23):
Got an hour and thirty five. Here we're on Central.

Speaker 5 (01:12:26):
Oh yeah, you are behind us.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
Yeah, oh we'll.

Speaker 8 (01:12:28):
See all right, guys.

Speaker 5 (01:12:33):
Awesome, awesome again, you guys are great. We uh had
a great time. We appreciate it so much. I hope
you enjoyed the rest of your evening.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
Thanks for having us. We appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (01:12:43):
Happy birthday again.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
Thank you. We enjoy being here, buddy, Thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:12:48):
Bye bye. Hey guys, thanks so very much for checking
out this episode of Paranormal Odyssey. Love you guys so much.
All the continued. I want to ask everyone please take
just a second, go brate and review the show wherever
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as every other Saturday Tiffany and I do and after
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Speaker 10 (01:13:42):
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Speaker 11 (01:13:54):
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Speaker 6 (01:14:06):
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Speaker 12 (01:14:06):
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ride the.

Speaker 11 (01:14:27):
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