April 30, 2025 • 57 mins
On this episode of The Bigfoot Report, Tiffany and Wayne welcome Florida reseacher, Brooke Moreland to the show. Brooke has been doing research into the Bigfoot phenominom for some time now. Uncovering evidence along the way. She was a part of the recent Florida Bigfoot Con Rounstable. Thia was an amazing conversation with an amazing researcher!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
And these people that claim or carry themselves without actually
claiming to be an expert, a bigfoot expert. I mean,
come on, what the hell is a bigfoot expert? There
is no such thing as an expert when it comes
to bigfoot.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
They know in an instant that you were in the woods.
There is no hiding from them, There is no being
quiet or.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Sneaking up on them.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
As soon as you walk in the woods, you walk
in their front door, thinking that you are going to
surprise them, You're only kidding yourself.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
We have got to get it out of our heads
that anecdotal evidence is not evidence. The best way, in
my opinion, that we have to learn about these creatures
right now is by listening to and talking to those
that have experiperience them, those who have witnessed them and
experienced them in their own environment.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
We do what we do to try to bring a
liar as to this topic, to be an open.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Door for somebody to walk through, to be able to
share their.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Story, a listening ear, a support hold for those who
have had their own encounterers with that which is not
supposed to exist.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
We've got to open our eyes people. There is something
out there. All of these thousands of people that have
seen something. They're not all alned, they're not all crazy.
There are some very reputable, good people out there that
have seen something. Brook. What's up, ma'am. How are you
(01:49):
doing tonight?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Good? How are you guys? Thanks for having me on,
Thanks for being here. Absolutely all right?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
What part of Florida you in, Brooke.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I'm in the Saint Pete area. Okay, so no Wood's
around here. I have to drive to them.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Okay, all right, yeah, Broke. Just start us off with,
you know, go back to the beginning. What got you
started in this crazy world of bigfoot rifted? What happened?
Just start from the beginning.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Well, basically, my nanny aka my grandmother, she had a
bigfoot sighting here in Florida back in the nineteen seventies,
and so growing up, she shared that story with me,
and I never had a reason not to believe her
or anything like that, and she never really dove into
(02:45):
the phenomena. It was just something that happened to her
and really scared her. She would move to an area.
This was back when Florida wasn't as developed as it
is today, and there was a lot of timber that
was built up and they were coming out in the morning.
She would go deliver papers and it would just be
strewn about all over the place, and so it was
(03:06):
freaking everyone out because it took heavy machinery to stack
these logs up, and they were coming out in the
morning and they were just thrown around like match sticks.
So she was getting scared, and so she parked started
parking her truck really close to the house. She said
that she could just run out the door and get
in it. And one morning, again she was delivering papers,
so they have to be up extremely early, and she
(03:30):
was going out and she said it chased her, and
she recalled. She said it ran up to fifteen miles
an hour, and she talks about just the odor that
it had and she was genuinely scared. And so she
told us about that experience. And then as she got older,
she developed dementia. And I wish I would have gotten
(03:51):
it on video when she was a little bit more
with it, But it's okay because I was able to
record it about a year or two before her her passing.
She passed away this January, and even with the dementia,
and we would ask her about Bigfoot and she would
refer to it as like sasquatch, That's what it was like,
(04:12):
Oh yeah, And you could just see her face change
and it took her back to that moment, to that
morning of that event happening, and her her expression completely changed,
and you know, she goes into it. So even up
until you know the end, she stayed firm with her story,
stayed firm with the details, and it really left an
impression on her, and it left an impression on me,
(04:34):
and I wanted to know more about it, and I
you know, listening to the podcast and things like that,
and I'm the type of person when I get interested
in something, I go all the way. So I decided,
naturally I was going to go to my first Bigfoot conference.
So I attended it about I think two or three
years ago now, and from there I made some amazing
(04:57):
connections and made some friends and found other people who
are it's just crazy as me, and decided we were
going to go hunt this thing together because it's like
I wanted to I wanted to find answers, I wanted
to know. I wanted to find out it and see
it for myself, you know. So that's kind of what
got me started on this path.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, all right, very cool. So Brooke, do do you
belong to a certain organization or do it by yourself
or what?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Well, funny you should ask. I actually just joined a
Bigfoot World to paranormal encryptied Researchers of Central Florida. I
hope I got all that right, Kathy if people let
me know. She just asked about this past week. So
because we'd been going out a whole lot and we
just really really vibed, you know, myself and her group,
(05:48):
we all just really got along. So it was just
like a natural thing to say, hey, like, you know,
you want to be a part And I was like absolutely,
you know, because we were already out all the time
together anyway, So that's a that's a new development. Up
until that point, it was really just my friend Mary
and and I just getting out in the woods and
kind of you know, doing it on our own and
collaborating with other researchers as the opportunities presented themselves.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
But yeah, now, do you guys camp or just day trips?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Oh gosh, we do it all. So we do do
day trips, and we also depending on where we're going,
we can't really do it in o Kala, but in
some of the other areas in central Florida they're a
bit more flat. So we take our e bikes and
we get out there really far and then we get
off and hike and it's really helpful. Especially during the summer.
It's hot as hell here and you know, you can
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only get so far before the sun taps you out.
So the e bikes really allow us to get back
into these areas that are untouched, where people aren't going,
that are off trail. So that's one thing that we
do and that's been incredible. But also we'll do cowboy camping,
and so cowboy camping essentially will go out minimal you
know gear, We'll take a chair or a hammock or
(07:01):
something like that and we'll go and we'll you know,
stay up the whole night. If you fall asleep, you
fall asleep, and then you know, you go home in
the morning and crash. We've also done nighttime investigations where
we are camping, do a lot of primitive camping, but
also you know, campgrounds and things like that where you know,
we'll establish a base camp and then we'll scout an
(07:23):
area during the daytime. You know, stage some things get
some stuff set up, maybe drop off some firewood, you know,
get an idea of kind of the area, find a
good spot and we'll come back at nighttime and stay
out for several hours and you know, just kind of
go from there. So I do it all. It just
depends on the circumstances.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, very cool. Yeah. I mentioned Matamor Research, the organization
that I founded. We do a lot of camping. We
were just camping two weeks ago. And what I have found, Brooke,
and I want to get your opinion on this, what
I have found myself is if you want to have
(08:01):
an encounter with a bigfoot, first off, you're never going
to sneak up on one. That mean you're foolish if
you think you're going to sneak up on a bigfoot.
What I have found, if you want to have an encounter,
just go camping, be yourself. Don't do all this elaborate
crap with strapping guns on and all this stuff, tromping
(08:24):
through the woods like you see on TV. I mean,
don't do that. Just go camping, be yourself. I think
that I personally think we're they're entertainment. They will come
to us, they will come and see what's going on
in their Territory's that's just how I feel.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
What do you think, No, I absolutely agree. I think
that camping, immersing yourself in the environment is really important,
and I will say that I will touch on that,
but I will say, you know, for listeners who aren't
able to make it out in the woods, don't let
that discourage you, because you've just as much of a
chance of seeing one driving down the road. So I
just want to say that if you're not able body
to be able to go out like we are, don't
(09:03):
be discouraged because so many times we've heard those reports
of it walked behind me, or it walked in front
of me. So don't be discouraged. But for us crazy
who do go out camping and hunting, I or not hunting,
but hunting in the sense of, you know, hunting for bigfoot,
I absolutely agree. And I think that we are the
entertainment and that's one of the things I really like
(09:24):
about some of the nighttime investigations. So I just got
back from a expedition, my first one I went on
with the BFRO. Really cool experience. For anybody who has
the opportunity to go to one, I would I would
definitely recommend it. It's just top tier, and especially the
group we went with, Lori Wade, Jeff Prowse or the
ones who put it on. She does a lot of
(09:46):
things in Tennessee and things like that. She's a fantastic organizer.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I love Lori Wade. She's a very good friend.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
The best and then just her kind of crowd that
she's curated are just some of the best researchers I've
ever met, you know. And so we had gone out
in this in this one location, and we scoped it out,
and we put out this firewood, and we found this
kind of like area in the pines that was like
a natural bowl, so something could kind of sneak up
(10:15):
and look at us and without feeling exposed, and we
had some activity there. We're sitting there and I had actually,
I'm sure we can probably dive into it tonight. I'd
had an encounter probably almost about six months beforehand, at
the same spot, in the same similar area. And so
(10:36):
we were back because we were up there in November
scouting locations to that we were going to go out
and for the February trip when everybody had arrived and
I had had this encounter, and we're back in the
same sort of location and we're sitting there and I'm
looking and we're kind of like north south, east west.
We're all kind of sitting in different directions kind of,
(10:57):
so we're covering all the vantage points there, and we
just had like a little fire going, and I don't
even think the fire was going at that point, to
be honest with you. We're just kind of sitting there
kind of getting acclimated and where it was, there were
no trails that actually butted up to this like river,
and all of a sudden, I see this like red
(11:17):
light and I'm watching it and I'm like, not again, right,
I'm like, oh my gosh, because the first time that
I had this like encounter in November, I was the
only one who saw it. And I'm like, man, because
it's like, even though you know what you saw, it's
always good to have someone else who can validate your Yeah.
So I'm like, guys, look over there, and Marian was
(11:38):
actually with me another gentleman, Rick Rellis, who's a BUFRORO investigator,
look over and we observed it for about ten seconds,
so they were able to see it and we were
able to watch it and I'm like, okay, I'm not
crazy like you guys see this too, and nobody was
over there. That was really interesting and you know, throughout
that night we just kind of were talking and laughing,
(12:00):
and you know, there were some wood knocks and things
like that when we were in that area. So I
absolutely agree. I feel like, you know, we're in their
living room and we're like TV. And especially like so
you say you're at a campground. I think that they
do keep an eye on campgrounds and things like that.
But when you kind of go away from the camp
kind of how we did, and Okay, we have our
(12:22):
base camp established and now we're going and we're not
where we're supposed to be. I think that that's interesting
as well, because I think, you know, okay, the humans
are at the campground, cool, but when you start kind
of showing up and hanging out in places that I
don't think they see a lot of traffic, I think
that's even you know, really draws them out too.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, now you said you were on a Lori Wade investigation,
and again our rein rate. She is top not She's
the best of the best. In my opinion. I love her.
She knows how I feel about her, But where was
it that? Were you in Georgia, Tennessee, Florida?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
We were Independence.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Florida and did one she did well? Did not know that.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
So Jeff Prowse is the gentleman who put it on,
and she was kind of like co hosting it. It
was really, you know, Jeff's, but it was his first one.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I met Jeff too. Yeah, Jeff's a cool guy.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Yeah, yes, yes, and the two of them together are just.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah. Lorie invited me on a BFRO investigation. I guess
it was a couple of years ago. Uh, you know,
she knew we were friends to begin with, and you know,
she she knows I'm a podcaster and and she wanted
me to get a feel of what the BFRO was
about and Brooke. I came away completely shocked by not
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only the people that I met, but the belief the
belief system that they had, because when when you look
at Matt Moneymaker, he is a no nonsense, This is
a biological, flesh and blood creature, and you will not
talk about anything else. So that's that's kind of what
(14:08):
rubs people wrong about the BFRO, and that that was
kind of what I was thinking. But Brooke. When I went,
I met more people there that were wu I was
gonna say than I was expecting. And there are people
there that are just very, very open minded. So what
(14:29):
I have told people, you know, don't have this opinion
about the BFRO, because just because one person feels that
way does not mean everyone. Absolutely everyone does. Is that
what you experience?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Yes, and even having an opinion about bigfoot itself too.
I think it's really important to stay open minded because
I don't know if Marcia Clark was on the expedition
you went on. I just had her on my show.
I'm going to be dropping that episode this week, and
it was really cool because we got to talk about
kind of where she lies, and she's very scientific, right,
(15:05):
really approaches it with that.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
You want to Yes, yes, he's been on the show.
She's an awesome lady.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Yeah, totally, and so smart right, and tries to approach
things from this scientific method. But even she was like,
I have had things happen to me. I can't explain.
I know that this happened. And so I think that
even happens with you know, with big footage that you
have to keep an open mind because, like you said,
you know I've heard all those things too, like oh,
(15:31):
there'll be a frou doesn't believe in the WU, and
you're right. I went and I was shocked. I was
like wow, because not even just the WU, but even
some of the paranormal side, you know, one of the gentlemen.
We were in this eighteen hundreds graveyard all of a sudden,
you know, we're kind of doing bigfoot stuff, but it
kind of transitioned into like a little bit of a
ghost adventurer situation. I was like, well, this is cool,
Like I'm here for this too, So it was. Yeah,
(15:54):
so it was really dynamic, and it wasn't so I
don't know what the word is, but it was. It
was really really cool and really open minded, just great people,
you know, and it wasn't like I didn't ever feel
once like I was being judged for anything I was
saying or thought. So I thought that was really cool,
Like it was an area where you could have those
(16:16):
open conversations and feel comfortable to just be yourself and
not feel like, oh, well, I can't share this what
happened to me because they're like I was zapped or
I had mind speak, or those different things that you
hear about a lot of those people had experienced it themselves.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
And that's kind of what we do on this show.
We want everybody to feel comfortable. We want everybody to
feel like they can say what it is that they
experienced because we're not going to judge you. We weren't there, no, Yeah,
were we to say that this did or did not happen?
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, absolutely, you're you're exactly right now. Brook. You might
have touched on this, you know you guys noticed at
the beginning I had to step away for a minute
to let Yogi out, so I missed a little bit
of what you let off with. But I'm curious if
(17:12):
you've ever had a siding.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
So I will say this, I say yes and no,
just because I can't say one hundred percent, So I
will just lay the scene and we'll go from there.
So I think a lot of people kind of know
class A and class B. So the class A as
you saw it, and you cannot misidentified as anything. Class B.
(17:39):
You heard it, maybe found a footprint, hair scout things
like that.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
I was on a scouting trip in November up in
the Florida Panhandle. I went with Jeff and Marion and
another woman we were up and we were kind of
scouting locations that the rest of the group were going
to come out and check out. We had some areas
trying to get a lay of the land and everything
before the actual expedition in February, and my friend were
(18:08):
sitting around the fire is literally our last night there,
and it was like a freeze morning, which, by the way,
is like super unusual for Florida. Now we're pretty close
to the Alabama Georgia line where you know, it's just
like Panhandle, but still, like a freeze warning in Florida
is unheard up. I would did not pack freeze warning
(18:28):
clothes when I did on this camping trip. So essentially
we're like, what the heck. So we're kind of all
around the fire trying to you know, bundle up. It
was gonna be a cold night. It was gonna be
like twenty seven degrees in dropping. So we'd made some
chili and we're just sitting around talking when all of
a sudden, my friend, who had been kind of cooking
and putting stuff up, realized like, oh my gosh, I
(18:51):
lost my phone because earlier, you know, Jeff drive, we
were on some trails other ways doing something. She had
gone for a little solo hike on this trail that
was near the campground. So we're like, oh crap. So
like all right, well we got to go find it, right,
So we get up and we're gonna go help her
find it. And the trail she was on was a
(19:12):
relatively short loop. It was pretty close to the thing,
so we're like okay. Because she had put on her
hunting orange because it was hunting season, she realized halfway
down the trail, oof, I'm out here in the woods.
I don't have on my orange. Let me get it
out and throw it on. She thinks that in the
midst of that it had fallen out. So I was like, okay,
we'll go take this little loop. Crepy is shit. By
(19:32):
the way, this little loop, it's like all of a sudden,
I'm like, oh, I don't like it out here. It's
like it's cold. So there's this lake and the just
the mist is rolling off. It's like a real eerie,
very dark. Actually a beautiful place if you ever want
to go and do stargaze. And because there's just no
light pollution. I mean, the closest walmart it's like two
hours away. It's nothing is out there. We were in
(19:54):
the middle of this national forest, so absolutely nothing going on,
and so we're looking for it and we're chugging along and.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Stay tuned for more. But the big Foot we're for
we'll be right.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Back the way that the trail looped around. I knew
that it came up behind someone's campsite, which is like,
because you don't want want to be loud shining flashlights
all over and everything, because this was I think at
this point, probably around you know, nine thirty ten o'clock
and you know, just trying to be respectful of all that.
And I see these lights up ahead and I'm like,
(20:30):
are we already back at the campsite? Like what is that?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Headlights? Like what is that? And I see these these
two lights and then they're They're gone. They're about like
nine ten feet up in the tree line, and so
I was like, what the heck is that? So I
was like, Jeff, can you can you come back here?
I was like, I just saw some lights. Because now
I'm thinking because he's like, no, we're not back there yet,
and I'm thinking, oh, are we are these hunters? Are
these poachers? Like st other people out here? What's going on.
(20:54):
And so he's looking and he's like, well, let's light
it up because we didn't even have our flashlights like up.
So the lights that I saw were about at the
twelve o'clock position, right, and I start shining our lights
and it's around the nine o'clock position. My light hits
these eyes and they were big, I mean huge, and
(21:17):
they hit them and then this thing goes up down, up, down,
but like quick, like a quick bobbing motion and then gone.
And I'm like, oh my gosh, like I had a
just this chill that went down my spine. I mean,
it was one of the craziest things, Like you know,
you always hear people say that, and then when you
actually feel like your blood kind of run cold, it's
(21:39):
like holy crap. And I'm like, oh my god. And
so I'm, you know, articulating to them what I'm seeing.
They didn't see it I did, and they're trying. Marian's
trying to take her thirmount and see if she can
catch anything, and he's like, well, whatever it is knows
that you saw it and is now hunkered down. And
I'm like, oh gosh. So we're like like, do you
(22:00):
want to turn around. Do you want to keep going?
I was like, oh, keep going, you know, because it's like,
you know, and now we're out here looking for this thing.
But when you really have an experience with something, you
have something really creepy happened to you, it's like, oh,
all of that stuff almost goes out of the window
a little bit and your body kind of goes into
that fight flight or freeze. Right. Yes, absolutely, so I'm like,
(22:26):
we'll keep going because here let me also preface this
with why I will not say it was a bigfoot
is because this area we were actually warned by a
different camper didn't even know who what we were about
or anything of skin walkers in the area and black
eyed kids. So I swear, and she's a local, and
(22:51):
so I'm like, oh my gosh. So that's why I'm hesitant,
you know, to say whatever, because it was so quick,
you know, when.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I saw I mean that was a damn mortgage board
of fucking weird.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Yeah. Yeah, so I mean likely it it probably was
the squatch, you know, but just with all the weird
stuff happening in that area and without clearly getting to
see you know, the body or anything, but just locking
with these eyes. That's why I'm kind of like I
keep it open ended, and so we kind of keep
going on and we're going down the trail and I'm like,
(23:27):
oh my gosh, I can't believe, you know, I just
saw this. This is like craziest thing. And I'm just like,
you know, thinking about this in my mind. When all
of a sudden, Jeff pipes pipes up and he's like,
oh my gosh, like I think I just saw something
like black like paralleling us and I was like, excuse me,
and he said something like a shadow, and then you know,
we throw our flashlights up again and I'm like, oh gosh,
(23:51):
what are we going to see? And he's like it
took me like a minute to rationalize what I was seeing.
And we looked and you could see definitely like some
you know, game trails and things like that. And we
got back to camp and I was I was definitely frightened.
And I mean this particular area it was shared with me,
so before I even went up and even knew I
was going on this trip, I had a friend who
(24:14):
used to live in Crustview and had to go through
this stretch of National forest, and she actually had a
skin walker experience and saw this thing go across the road, right, crazy,
crazy story. Well, no joke what she described me Jeff
(24:36):
shared with me, and I won't say the gentleman's name,
but there was a gentleman who camped at that campground
who wound up having to go to the psych ward
after being at that campground because he had a skin
walker getting like chill Sagabad, but he had a skinwalker
on the side of his truck on the running board
(24:56):
kind of the same thing. He was, you know, seeing
stuff at the campground and it was just some some
bad vibe. So it was like, you know, I was like,
I don't know how I'm gonna sleep tonight because I'm
you know, I'm like it was it was a tough night.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Well I'm sure the adrenaline was really pumping through you
with all of this, and then we're hearing all of
this rather and then seeing what you saw.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Absolutely it was and then like I was saying about
us going back in February, so we had gone back
in February, and we had had that uh, that red
light that was there when we went to that one location,
and then another night that we were out because we
kind of figured that whatever this is is near the water,
(25:41):
So where my sighting happened is like here on the
map where we were at it's like here. So we're
kind of making this like triangular area that we're you know,
there's some activity happening here. We're going to focus on
this area. And there was this river that cuts through,
so we're like, okay, how about this next night, we're
going to go on the other side of the river
and see what happens. And what's really cool about the
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VFO is when they go on investigation. So we all
got walkies and they break up in about depending on
how many people are there, of like say four to
five max. No bigger than that, sometimes smaller, and they
have a log and I loved that. So if they
do any kind of provocation, say a how or a
knock or whatever, or if they heard something, they're looking
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at the time and going okay, seven thirty five, we
heard a how. And then we come back in the
morning and we have a debrief and they can go, oh, nope,
that was us, that was our group, Okay, cancel that out,
and then we're able to really see the track.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I was impressed by that.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
M Yeah, yeah, because then you get to narrow doubt.
Oh so that wasn't your group, Okay, we had something
legitimately happen. And so we had gone out and I
was with Rick Ellis and some of those guys. Don't
know if you're from familiar with him, but we was
righted by this little old eighteen hundred's graveyard, which is
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like I said, it started to turn into this paranormal thing.
But we got there and we knew that the other
groups were going to be coming shortly behind us, and
we were going to post up along this river at
different points, and so he says, well, hey, before everybody
gets here, He's like, I want to do a provocation.
So we're like okay, and he had this really cool
thing for all the bigfooters out there. It was a
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pop gun, which I guess is like an old toy,
and he took that thing and he popped it and
it was so loud, and then all of a sudden,
we get this like scream, this howl, and it sounded
to me, I would say it sounded almost female like,
but all of a sudden, then the coyotes kicked up
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and they started freaking out, so that it was like
we did the pop and then all of a sudden,
the coyotes and off, and then no, sooner do we
do that? Here comes the rest of the gang driving
down the road to go to their spot. So she's
He's like, I'm really glad that that we did that
when we did so the pop gun, it's a good one.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I've never thought about that, but I know exactly what
you're talking about. It's like a cork yeah right, and
thinking you pop it and it shoots the cork out
and it makes a loud ass like bang yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
And it's attached to the strings yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Yeah, yeah, and it's lightweight. He just threw it in
his pack. I'm like, wow, because you know, you never
know if you're going to find like a hardwood tree
or something while you're out there, so you know you're
able to replicate it.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
M Now, Brooke, you were talking about the eye shine
that that you witness yourself where there were and forgive
me for not remembering, but were you guys shining flashlights?
Was there any kind of light that could have been
a reflection or.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
At that point in time, I don't want to say
I had given up on finding the phone. I was cold.
You know, tired, ready to go, and I did not
have my flashlight on at that point in time. No,
and Jeff was in front of me. We're kind of
sunstering on Marion's behind me, and my flashlight was not on.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
No, okay, So you think it was like a self
eliminating I shall what I saw.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Was definitely self illuminating. I mean it, uh, Like I said,
I thought we were back at the camp I really
genuinely thought we were seeing the lights from the facilities
that were there or from this campground. Because it came
right back to the butt of someone else's camp sites.
I was like, oh, we're back already. Like that was quick,
you know, like huh okay. So that's why I was
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kind of like, oh, well, we're back. And then it
went away and I was like, what was that? And
now then then that's when my mind started turning, and
I called him back and I'm like, hm, I just
saw something really strange up there, and then and just
you know, weirder from there.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
It's so interesting because you know, I talked to you
a little bit about Brian king Sharp. He and I
co host that big Foot podcast together. He was an
actual speaker at the conference that you just did where
you were a member of the round table. And he
shared his experiences out in the Pacific Northwest. In the
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documentary that's coming out about the young man Daniel I
can't remember his last name, Daniel Barnett, there is that
the young man with autism from the UK. Brian was
a part of that documentary and he was there talking
about his experiences out there. And Brian, just like myself,
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we have interviewed so many people over the years that
talk about this self illuminating eyeshine and we would roll
our eyes, you know, and just think, whatever, it's not possible,
You're crazy. And Brian talked about while he was there
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in the Pacific North Wales shooting this documentary they experienced it,
that this self illuminating eyeshine, and he talked about what
an asshole he felt like for doubting all these people
all these years that talked about know there was no reflection.
This was not reflection. This was some type of self illumination.
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So you've experienced it too, Yes, Do you have not
any idea on what that could be?
Speaker 4 (31:44):
No, I really don't. I would just be shooting in
the dark. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I don't lightning bugs.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Like, oh yeah, no, that wasn't the lightning box. That's
the thing that was, you know, stationary. That's when I
should not it was not moving around. You know, I
grew up in Maryland and West Virginia, and you know,
lightning bugs galore. We don't have them so much done
here in Florida, I noticed, which is lame, because they were.
I used to love summer, n love it god all. Yeah,
(32:16):
seeing all the fireflies out there, so I'm familiar with that.
And it was much larger than what a firefly would be,
and I mean illuminating, like literally, I thought it was
I thought it was two lights.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I yeah. But what I'm saying is if these lightning
bugs have the ability to self illuminate like that. We
don't know what a bigfoot is. Nobody, nobody has one
in the basement that we're studying, nobody, you know, we
don't know anything about them. Who are we to say
that they don't have this ability?
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Well and off well, I won't say it was off topic,
but you know, you look at the biluminescence that sea
creatures have. Why do they have that because they're always
in the dark. Bigfoot aren't always in the dark, but
they have to have some capability, you know, so maybe.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
It's like that, yeah, adapt to the environment, right, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, Yeah. A couple more questions that I want to
get to before we get to the audience's questions. I
want to get your opinion, Brooke on k systems. Do
they utilize them or no?
Speaker 4 (33:33):
I love that personally. I think it has to be
connected because if you look at the topography and where
you know, you have these missing for one ones or
you have these high clusters of bigfoot sightings, I mean,
you overlay it. It's undeniable. So it would not surprise
me if they're utilizing it. I mean it's so funny.
(33:54):
I actually wanted to talk about this on my show.
Is you know the mold people of Las Vegas. You
guys heard of them?
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yes, you guys?
Speaker 4 (34:00):
All right, so that's us and we're utilizing these old
tunnel systems. And so when you talk about the caves,
I would absolutely think that they have to be utilizing it,
and there's some kind of connection with that. And then
that corese topography. When you look at the map and
you see where that is with the correlation of sightings,
it's like, yeah, have.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
You seen that map that like overlays like Bigfoot siding
or whatever in the cave systems. Mh, It's it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Yeah. And I mean even in the areas where you
have the limestone courts granite, you have that energy that's there.
You know, all of our phones have have courts in it,
and yeah, I think that that's definitely a part of
this too. It's a it's a conductor.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Yeah, And I just I can't imagine, say, a severe
thunderstorm with like tornado and everything. What are Bigfoot doing?
Are they We've seen these nests and things like in
the Olympic project that's not giving any kind of shelter.
What are they doing in these just these torrential downpours
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with lightning and tornado. Cave systems, that's what they're using,
I would think to.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Get around and every Yeah, I absolutely would think so too.
And you know, you got to think that whatever this is,
it's in my opinion, ancient and it's been here for
a very very long time. And like Tiffy Imis is
talking about, you know what, adapting and different capabilities. Yeah,
I would have to think that they would. We would
know that these caves are there and utilize them to
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their benefits. Especially I'm sure that they have a much
broader range of sight than we do, just like we
go outside at night and our night vision only is
but so far, and these animals can see perfectly.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
So absolutely absolutely all right, before we get to the
audience questions, uh, Brook, what is it gonna take the
before science actually accepts this. Is it going to take
a body? Or is there another way to do it?
Speaker 4 (36:16):
I don't you know, It's so funny. Someone asks me
a similar question on the roundtable at the conference, and
I have to say, my opinion is they already know.
I really believe that they already know, because it's.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Gonna take something to force their hand, right, Yeah, yeah,
you know.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
What, I think it would just have to be. It's
gonna be you know what. It's gonna be somebody on live,
some kid, you know, and it's gonna be in some
city somewhere in California doing some crazy shit and they're
gonna somebody is gonna have it on live. And then
it's gonna be like a big group of thirty people
are gonna be like a rabid Bigfoot, just you know,
tearing things up. And then they're gonna be like, Oh,
(36:56):
it's just somebody in a suit. I don't know, maybe
you know, but you're right, it's going to have to
take a major event. I don't know what it would be.
I definitely think that they know. I mean, like when
we look at you know, Roswell and they you know,
supposedly have the bodies of that, and I know that
that's aliens, but still that they were recovered bodies from that.
(37:17):
And then you hear all the stories from the eighteen
hundreds of these giant skeletons that were found here in
North America that supposedly the Smithsonian came and and and
took the bones and they have never been seen or
heard from again. So I don't know. I don't know
if we'll see. If you know, my friend Mary, and
she says that if science does recognize it, that will
(37:39):
be kicked out of the woods, because she said, like,
you know, it'll automatically be a protected species because we
don't know how many of them exist. But maybe that
could be good for you know, the habitats, especially you know,
with our national parks and things like that. So I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
So do you think it's going to take a body
because photo and video is not going to do it.
If that was enough, this this would have been solved
in nineteen sixty seven with the Patterson garaction. It'd be
done because that's the gold standard. So photos and video
is not going to work. Is it going to take
(38:19):
someone bringing in a body, whether it be someone shoot
one on expedition or someone like me or you or
anybody walking up on it and just finding a dead one,
lucking up on a dead one.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
I feel like they'll try to cover it up. I
really do. I feel like I feel like they'll cover
it up.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
And you know most books that we've talked about on
that Bigfoot podcast about coming up with a proper protocol
to avoid that, we all have to be Yeah, as
much as we argue and find that as organizations in
the Bigfoot community, we need to agree on a proper
protocol if a body is found.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
I agree, Yeah, I think it's like a co op
together and figure this out. You're right, like a un
for Bigfoot, We're we're all come together.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
But it's never going to happen because people can't put
their fucking egos aside.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
That is very true.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
It's really unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
It is.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
But I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Agree though it's all going to be swept under the rug.
This isn't this didn't really happen.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
If we don't come together and work together, that gives
them all the ammunition they need to make us look stupid.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Absolutely, I think, you know, I think that there is
sort of that level of divisiveness there for a reason,
because I mean, you know, I know we talked about
we work and to get into politics. But if we
can keep people divided, they won't work together. And so
same thing you know with Bigfoot. And that's why I say,
I really really believe that we all need to stay
open minded. I have my own opinion of obviously what
(39:56):
I think bigfoot is, but I am I'm friends with
people who think the exact opposite of me, and that's
okay because none of us know. And yeah, but we
have to keep open minded, like you said, like it's
so important to stay open minded and go where the
evidence takes you. Just like like you said, Matt Moneymaker
for a long time was.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Very stay tuned for more. But the big flip repard,
we'll be right.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Back, no WU. And then you have the BFRO investigators
who are like, well, that's some really weird stuff happened
out here. So it's just you know, staying open minded
to the possibility of what it could be. You know,
even if it's not what you think. You know, you
can't it's an echo chamber. You got to be around
other people and hear other perspectives and stuff and be
(40:44):
willing to adjust your own if presented with you know,
new evidence.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
And then I said the same exact thing a couple
of shows ago. People have their own narrative in their
head of what it is supposed to be in their mind.
So any time anybody opens up their box and put
something different.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
In challenges that narrative, they're like, well.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Well that's bullshit, that's not what I think, and it's
this big thing and it doesn't need to be right
absolutely all right.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Before we get to the audience questions, Brook, this fucking
hour has flown by really high. We're going to have
to get you back on a Saturday if you're available,
because our Saturdays there are after hour shows. It's a
lot more laid back and we can go as long
as we want awesome on those. Just being a single dad,
(41:38):
I'm kind of I'm limited to that hour on the
Tuesday shows.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
But I know because I'd love to hear about your podcast.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
And yeah, well, we're going to give you a chance
to talk about that, but we're going to have to
have you back if you're open.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
To it, ma'am, I would love to.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Okay, very cool. All right, we're going to go ahead
and jump into these rapid fire Q and A questions. First,
one's coming from my good boy Troy. What top of
e boch do you use? And what is its range
of speed capabilities?
Speaker 4 (42:12):
I personally, due to my car situation, I have a
foldable it's called electric. It's like electric but without the
e so electric bike. I think I have the XP
three point zero and the range of sixty five miles.
And then my friend, if you have a hitch or
you're able to, like a truck or something, she's got
the Avington Adventure two point zero and that one's fantastic
(42:34):
as well.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
And the e box are awesome. They're an awesome tool
to have because they're so fucking quiet.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
Yeah, you know, and you can get so far.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
That's a really really cool cool thing to use. Mister
Aristol Brook, are you familiar with the telepathy tapes?
Speaker 4 (42:52):
Ooh, that sounds familiar. I think so, is that the
ones like the Gateway Project with the CIA, Because if so, yes, well,
the Oh We Go Ahead Tapes.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Are a podcast that Brian and I talked about over
on that big Foot podcast. It's amazing, Broke, if you
were open minded, if you are even a little bit
familiar with like mine speak and stuff, Oh my god.
I mean when we did the episode on the Telepathy tape,
(43:24):
I had never heard of it. Brian had had listened
to all of them, and just from what I heard,
I broke down. I started I cried on on this
episode because it was just fucking beautiful. I don't know
if you have any experience with people with autism, but
(43:46):
it's this. The Telepathy Tapes is a podcast that this
lady put together of these young people with autism. But
they're nonverbal, they don't have the ability to speak, but
they communicate with like these well I don't remember what
they call them, the boards or they type out kind
(44:07):
of what they're saying and it speaks for them. It
will blow your mind. Bro I'm telling you that the
test that they do with these kids that they can
read your mind. They can be in the same room
with you and tell you what you're thinking.
Speaker 4 (44:26):
That's scary, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
It is so mate. Please check out the Telepathy tapes,
do you you know?
Speaker 4 (44:35):
I think you're Yeah, you're the second person tell me
that I'm making of that.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Yeah, please do it.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
It's the Gateway tapes are something different. So that's a
whole other thing you guys should look into. The Gateway
tapes are nuts. That's from the CIA. But it's a
long I know we're talking about, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
I know we're talking about all right. Also, Troy, do
you have any experience or opinions on the existence of
dog Man.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
I have not had an experience with dog man. I
know that that's a lot more aggressive and a little
bit more of a negative encounters when they do. You know,
I have talked with different people who have had those experiences,
and so when I'm out in the field, I'm always
mindful of that. And I do believe it does exist
and it is out there, and I've heard some incredibly
(45:23):
compelling stories, and I know that Eastern Tennessee is like
a hotbed for it. So if you're out there, be careful.
I know that Easter. Oh well, there you go.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
You've got them are again from Troy. Do you use
lights red, white, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
I don't know if that's a question about like headlights,
I do use headlight. Red is better for night vision,
but I do use those. Yeah, when we go out,
we try to preserve our night vision by using red.
But mine has the green light too, which is pretty nice. Also.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Yeah, yeah, all right, yet, Don Moore, is your channel
the same as your name?
Speaker 4 (46:10):
Yeah? Well yes and no Facebook? Yes, yes, Dark Florida
Podcast on Instagram, Facebook and YouTube as well.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Yeah, I've tried to share. Oh, thank you Zacho throughout
the jet yepah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
All right, mister Joe Pat and real quick Joe Pet
made a donation earlier of fifty dollars. Thank you very
very much, sir for your donation. But his question what
color was the eye? Shine?
Speaker 4 (46:46):
White?
Speaker 1 (46:48):
White? Okay? Yeh uh are also, Joe Pat, are there
many caves down there?
Speaker 4 (46:59):
And Flora, there are some notable caves, but from what
I understand underneath of the water table that yes, in
the limestone, there are a lot of caves down there,
not many you can visit.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
There are few, okay. And this next one is from
our great friend Aristol it's more of a comment. One
of the best things about Dark Florida is that Brook
covers it all and not just her, not just here
in Florida.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
Yes, that is very true. I like to cover everything
from eerie, true crime, paranormal, bigfoot, anything I find interesting.
I have a special love for unsolved mysteries and things
like that, so I always like, always like to break
it up, you know, and just whatever I find interesting,
honestly awesome.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
Yeah, all right again, Don Moore, those miles of tunnels
under Pigeon Forge in East Tennessee is used by feral
humans too.
Speaker 4 (48:00):
Pharaoh humans are definitely a thing. I'm sure that they're
aware of that also, But we have Brooke.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
I'm so interested in Pharaoh humans. Yeah, especially the Happalacian
tro I mean there's something spooky going on.
Speaker 4 (48:15):
Up there for sure. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
All right, moving on, we got Northwest Native Tracker. What
if their DNA turns out to be human?
Speaker 4 (48:31):
I would refer you to Dave Polito's study. He did
an excellent DNA study with Scott Carpenter, I believe helped
him where they submitted a few samples to jem Big
that they collected and they say that the results came
back on the mother's side as being from the Middle
East two thousand years ago, with no known match on
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the father's side.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Andrea or DNA is a mother's right right.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
Was from Middle East two thousand years ago, and that
there was no known match in gen Bank for the
father's side. So I love that stuff. If you ever
have an opportunity to hear him give that talk, it's incredible.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Okay, all right, mister t Roy. Do you a great question?
Do you carry? I?
Speaker 5 (49:20):
Do you?
Speaker 4 (49:24):
Yeah? Being a woman, I absolutely do. I think it's
important because not only not even necessarily for the Bigfoot,
but for the other people that are out there.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
I'm more afraid of people than I am fucking big
Foot or dog man or chroop oficbra. I'm afraid of
the crazy ass person.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
And listen, I don't want to be a victim. And
if there's something I can do to protect myself and
the people I care about who I'm out with, I will.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Do so, ma'am, that is an awesome, awesome that you do.
Speaker 4 (49:57):
Yeah, Because, like I said, feral human and all kinds
of weird stuff, they're.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
All kind of weird shit out there. Window Bigfoot nine
to eleven. What do you think they do when a
hurricane comes through? Good question, That.
Speaker 4 (50:10):
Is a really good question. I think that they could
be if you look at birds migration patterns, it's interesting
when a hurricane comes through how their migration patterns. They
pretty much leave an area, you know, and wildlife tend
to know that major weather events are happening beforehand. So
I think that they probably get out of dodge. They
could be utilizing the cave systems like you said, but
(50:32):
or they hunger down. But I think they could be
very in tune with the environment, just like the animals are,
and they probably leave and then evacuate just like us.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
And then again the cave systems exactly, yeah, go under. Yeah.
I think they have more of an idea what to
do than we do.
Speaker 3 (50:52):
Absolutely well, they've been out there longer then we would.
They know how to survive that stuff.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
All right, Brook, ma'am again, you are welcome to come back.
If you will come back for a Saturday show, I'd
love to Tiffany or myself will set it up right
after the show. All right, we would love to have
you back. But moving on from this one, tell everybody
about your podcast. Anything you have coming up anything you
(51:22):
want to promote, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (51:24):
This is absolutely so. Dark Florida Podcast is available wherever
you listen to your podcasts, please feel free to listen,
and got several episodes out you can catch up. Like
I said, we talk about everything eerie, true crime, bigfoot, cryptids, paranormal,
unsolved mysteries, strange news because there's plenty of that, so
(51:47):
we cover it all and I'd love to get into it.
And you can find me on Instagram at Dark Florida Podcast,
YouTube dot com, slash dark Florida for one one and
then I do have a face book page is a
private group called Dark Florida where you can connect with
me there or on my personal page Brooke Morlands, So
(52:09):
that's where you can find me. And yeah, it's been
an awesome time being on here today. I really appreciate
you guys for having me.
Speaker 3 (52:16):
Yes, I haven't talked much, but the chat's kind of
been a little busy, so I see it.
Speaker 4 (52:21):
Yeah, I'm trying to keep up with.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
It, Brooke, if you don't mind, ma'am, send me links
to everything that you want shared. And what we do
is we take the audio from these live shows and
I upload those two podcasts where our audience is much
much larger, so we can reach a lot more people.
(52:47):
So whatever links you want shared, please send those to
me and I'll get those at it.
Speaker 4 (52:54):
Yeah, and if you're able to send in the audio,
I'll upload it on my RSS feed as well.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
Sweet, we can definitely do that, all right, thank you?
All right again, man, thank you so much for hanging
out with us. This was amazing. We will get you
set up for a round two and uh yeah, stay
cold down there in Florida.
Speaker 4 (53:16):
All right, thank you, enjoy your evening.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
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that you do. We love you, We thank you. We'll
talk again soon.
Speaker 5 (54:40):
Through the woods, the pine trees, sway, shadows long at
end of day, bigfoots call on the whispering breeze. Secrets
kept by nine shoot trees. Man, how's bringing the moon?
(55:04):
Echoes in the silent too tracks We five, but answers none.
A hunt for truth that's just begun. We're searching past
(55:28):
the fire light. Four creatures hidden out of sight in
the forest heart, where shadows lay seeking see krets in
the twilight. Through the fall a shape did glye skin
(55:54):
walker eyes saw wide legends of we chase to night
in the dark. Our lanterns bright by the cree quil,
water spill whispers wry, the winds chill full of steep
(56:19):
man tails on top in this land the myths of
over We're searching past the fire light full creature's hidden,
(56:42):
out of sight, in the forest heart, where shadows lay,
seeking seacrets in the twilight, bred in the
And these people that claim or carry themselves without actually
claiming to be an expert, a bigfoot expert. I mean,
come on, what the hell is a bigfoot expert? There
is no such thing as an expert when it comes
to bigfoot.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
They know in an instant that you were in the woods.
There is no hiding from them, There is no being
quiet or.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Sneaking up on them.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
As soon as you walk in the woods, you walk
in their front door, thinking that you are going to
surprise them, You're only kidding yourself.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
We have got to get it out of our heads
that anecdotal evidence is not evidence. The best way, in
my opinion, that we have to learn about these creatures
right now is by listening to and talking to those
that have experiperience them, those who have witnessed them and
experienced them in their own environment.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
We do what we do to try to bring a
liar as to this topic, to be an open.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Door for somebody to walk through, to be able to
share their.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Story, a listening ear, a support hold for those who
have had their own encounterers with that which is not
supposed to exist.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
We've got to open our eyes people. There is something
out there. All of these thousands of people that have
seen something. They're not all alned, they're not all crazy.
There are some very reputable, good people out there that
have seen something. Brook. What's up, ma'am. How are you
(01:49):
doing tonight?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Good? How are you guys? Thanks for having me on,
Thanks for being here. Absolutely all right?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
What part of Florida you in, Brooke.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I'm in the Saint Pete area. Okay, so no Wood's
around here. I have to drive to them.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Okay, all right, yeah, Broke. Just start us off with,
you know, go back to the beginning. What got you
started in this crazy world of bigfoot rifted? What happened?
Just start from the beginning.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Well, basically, my nanny aka my grandmother, she had a
bigfoot sighting here in Florida back in the nineteen seventies,
and so growing up, she shared that story with me,
and I never had a reason not to believe her
or anything like that, and she never really dove into
(02:45):
the phenomena. It was just something that happened to her
and really scared her. She would move to an area.
This was back when Florida wasn't as developed as it
is today, and there was a lot of timber that
was built up and they were coming out in the morning.
She would go deliver papers and it would just be
strewn about all over the place, and so it was
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freaking everyone out because it took heavy machinery to stack
these logs up, and they were coming out in the
morning and they were just thrown around like match sticks.
So she was getting scared, and so she parked started
parking her truck really close to the house. She said
that she could just run out the door and get
in it. And one morning, again she was delivering papers,
so they have to be up extremely early, and she
(03:30):
was going out and she said it chased her, and
she recalled. She said it ran up to fifteen miles
an hour, and she talks about just the odor that
it had and she was genuinely scared. And so she
told us about that experience. And then as she got older,
she developed dementia. And I wish I would have gotten
(03:51):
it on video when she was a little bit more
with it, But it's okay because I was able to
record it about a year or two before her her passing.
She passed away this January, and even with the dementia,
and we would ask her about Bigfoot and she would
refer to it as like sasquatch, That's what it was like,
(04:12):
Oh yeah, And you could just see her face change
and it took her back to that moment, to that
morning of that event happening, and her her expression completely changed,
and you know, she goes into it. So even up
until you know the end, she stayed firm with her story,
stayed firm with the details, and it really left an
impression on her, and it left an impression on me,
(04:34):
and I wanted to know more about it, and I
you know, listening to the podcast and things like that,
and I'm the type of person when I get interested
in something, I go all the way. So I decided,
naturally I was going to go to my first Bigfoot conference.
So I attended it about I think two or three
years ago now, and from there I made some amazing
(04:57):
connections and made some friends and found other people who
are it's just crazy as me, and decided we were
going to go hunt this thing together because it's like
I wanted to I wanted to find answers, I wanted
to know. I wanted to find out it and see
it for myself, you know. So that's kind of what
got me started on this path.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, all right, very cool. So Brooke, do do you
belong to a certain organization or do it by yourself
or what?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Well, funny you should ask. I actually just joined a
Bigfoot World to paranormal encryptied Researchers of Central Florida. I
hope I got all that right, Kathy if people let
me know. She just asked about this past week. So
because we'd been going out a whole lot and we
just really really vibed, you know, myself and her group,
(05:48):
we all just really got along. So it was just
like a natural thing to say, hey, like, you know,
you want to be a part And I was like absolutely,
you know, because we were already out all the time
together anyway, So that's a that's a new development. Up
until that point, it was really just my friend Mary
and and I just getting out in the woods and
kind of you know, doing it on our own and
collaborating with other researchers as the opportunities presented themselves.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
But yeah, now, do you guys camp or just day trips?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Oh gosh, we do it all. So we do do
day trips, and we also depending on where we're going,
we can't really do it in o Kala, but in
some of the other areas in central Florida they're a
bit more flat. So we take our e bikes and
we get out there really far and then we get
off and hike and it's really helpful. Especially during the summer.
It's hot as hell here and you know, you can
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only get so far before the sun taps you out.
So the e bikes really allow us to get back
into these areas that are untouched, where people aren't going,
that are off trail. So that's one thing that we
do and that's been incredible. But also we'll do cowboy camping,
and so cowboy camping essentially will go out minimal you
know gear, We'll take a chair or a hammock or
(07:01):
something like that and we'll go and we'll you know,
stay up the whole night. If you fall asleep, you
fall asleep, and then you know, you go home in
the morning and crash. We've also done nighttime investigations where
we are camping, do a lot of primitive camping, but
also you know, campgrounds and things like that where you know,
we'll establish a base camp and then we'll scout an
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area during the daytime. You know, stage some things get
some stuff set up, maybe drop off some firewood, you know,
get an idea of kind of the area, find a
good spot and we'll come back at nighttime and stay
out for several hours and you know, just kind of
go from there. So I do it all. It just
depends on the circumstances.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, very cool. Yeah. I mentioned Matamor Research, the organization
that I founded. We do a lot of camping. We
were just camping two weeks ago. And what I have found, Brooke,
and I want to get your opinion on this, what
I have found myself is if you want to have
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an encounter with a bigfoot, first off, you're never going
to sneak up on one. That mean you're foolish if
you think you're going to sneak up on a bigfoot.
What I have found, if you want to have an encounter,
just go camping, be yourself. Don't do all this elaborate
crap with strapping guns on and all this stuff, tromping
(08:24):
through the woods like you see on TV. I mean,
don't do that. Just go camping, be yourself. I think
that I personally think we're they're entertainment. They will come
to us, they will come and see what's going on
in their Territory's that's just how I feel.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
What do you think, No, I absolutely agree. I think
that camping, immersing yourself in the environment is really important,
and I will say that I will touch on that,
but I will say, you know, for listeners who aren't
able to make it out in the woods, don't let
that discourage you, because you've just as much of a
chance of seeing one driving down the road. So I
just want to say that if you're not able body
to be able to go out like we are, don't
(09:03):
be discouraged because so many times we've heard those reports
of it walked behind me, or it walked in front
of me. So don't be discouraged. But for us crazy
who do go out camping and hunting, I or not hunting,
but hunting in the sense of, you know, hunting for bigfoot,
I absolutely agree. And I think that we are the
entertainment and that's one of the things I really like
(09:24):
about some of the nighttime investigations. So I just got
back from a expedition, my first one I went on
with the BFRO. Really cool experience. For anybody who has
the opportunity to go to one, I would I would
definitely recommend it. It's just top tier, and especially the
group we went with, Lori Wade, Jeff Prowse or the
ones who put it on. She does a lot of
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things in Tennessee and things like that. She's a fantastic organizer.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I love Lori Wade. She's a very good friend.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
The best and then just her kind of crowd that
she's curated are just some of the best researchers I've
ever met, you know. And so we had gone out
in this in this one location, and we scoped it out,
and we put out this firewood, and we found this
kind of like area in the pines that was like
a natural bowl, so something could kind of sneak up
(10:15):
and look at us and without feeling exposed, and we
had some activity there. We're sitting there and I had actually,
I'm sure we can probably dive into it tonight. I'd
had an encounter probably almost about six months beforehand, at
the same spot, in the same similar area. And so
(10:36):
we were back because we were up there in November
scouting locations to that we were going to go out
and for the February trip when everybody had arrived and
I had had this encounter, and we're back in the
same sort of location and we're sitting there and I'm
looking and we're kind of like north south, east west.
We're all kind of sitting in different directions kind of,
(10:57):
so we're covering all the vantage points there, and we
just had like a little fire going, and I don't
even think the fire was going at that point, to
be honest with you. We're just kind of sitting there
kind of getting acclimated and where it was, there were
no trails that actually butted up to this like river,
and all of a sudden, I see this like red
(11:17):
light and I'm watching it and I'm like, not again, right,
I'm like, oh my gosh, because the first time that
I had this like encounter in November, I was the
only one who saw it. And I'm like, man, because
it's like, even though you know what you saw, it's
always good to have someone else who can validate your Yeah.
So I'm like, guys, look over there, and Marian was
(11:38):
actually with me another gentleman, Rick Rellis, who's a BUFRORO investigator,
look over and we observed it for about ten seconds,
so they were able to see it and we were
able to watch it and I'm like, okay, I'm not
crazy like you guys see this too, and nobody was
over there. That was really interesting and you know, throughout
that night we just kind of were talking and laughing,
(12:00):
and you know, there were some wood knocks and things
like that when we were in that area. So I
absolutely agree. I feel like, you know, we're in their
living room and we're like TV. And especially like so
you say you're at a campground. I think that they
do keep an eye on campgrounds and things like that.
But when you kind of go away from the camp
kind of how we did, and Okay, we have our
(12:22):
base camp established and now we're going and we're not
where we're supposed to be. I think that that's interesting
as well, because I think, you know, okay, the humans
are at the campground, cool, but when you start kind
of showing up and hanging out in places that I
don't think they see a lot of traffic, I think
that's even you know, really draws them out too.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, now you said you were on a Lori Wade investigation,
and again our rein rate. She is top not She's
the best of the best. In my opinion. I love her.
She knows how I feel about her, But where was
it that? Were you in Georgia, Tennessee, Florida?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
We were Independence.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Florida and did one she did well? Did not know that.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
So Jeff Prowse is the gentleman who put it on,
and she was kind of like co hosting it. It
was really, you know, Jeff's, but it was his first one.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I met Jeff too. Yeah, Jeff's a cool guy.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Yeah, yes, yes, and the two of them together are just.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah. Lorie invited me on a BFRO investigation. I guess
it was a couple of years ago. Uh, you know,
she knew we were friends to begin with, and you know,
she she knows I'm a podcaster and and she wanted
me to get a feel of what the BFRO was
about and Brooke. I came away completely shocked by not
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only the people that I met, but the belief the
belief system that they had, because when when you look
at Matt Moneymaker, he is a no nonsense, This is
a biological, flesh and blood creature, and you will not
talk about anything else. So that's that's kind of what
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rubs people wrong about the BFRO, and that that was
kind of what I was thinking. But Brooke. When I went,
I met more people there that were wu I was
gonna say than I was expecting. And there are people
there that are just very, very open minded. So what
(14:29):
I have told people, you know, don't have this opinion
about the BFRO, because just because one person feels that
way does not mean everyone. Absolutely everyone does. Is that
what you experience?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Yes, and even having an opinion about bigfoot itself too.
I think it's really important to stay open minded because
I don't know if Marcia Clark was on the expedition
you went on. I just had her on my show.
I'm going to be dropping that episode this week, and
it was really cool because we got to talk about
kind of where she lies, and she's very scientific, right,
(15:05):
really approaches it with that.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
You want to Yes, yes, he's been on the show.
She's an awesome lady.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Yeah, totally, and so smart right, and tries to approach
things from this scientific method. But even she was like,
I have had things happen to me. I can't explain.
I know that this happened. And so I think that
even happens with you know, with big footage that you
have to keep an open mind because, like you said,
you know I've heard all those things too, like oh,
(15:31):
there'll be a frou doesn't believe in the WU, and
you're right. I went and I was shocked. I was
like wow, because not even just the WU, but even
some of the paranormal side, you know, one of the gentlemen.
We were in this eighteen hundreds graveyard all of a sudden,
you know, we're kind of doing bigfoot stuff, but it
kind of transitioned into like a little bit of a
ghost adventurer situation. I was like, well, this is cool,
Like I'm here for this too, So it was. Yeah,
(15:54):
so it was really dynamic, and it wasn't so I
don't know what the word is, but it was. It
was really really cool and really open minded, just great people,
you know, and it wasn't like I didn't ever feel
once like I was being judged for anything I was
saying or thought. So I thought that was really cool,
Like it was an area where you could have those
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open conversations and feel comfortable to just be yourself and
not feel like, oh, well, I can't share this what
happened to me because they're like I was zapped or
I had mind speak, or those different things that you
hear about a lot of those people had experienced it themselves.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
And that's kind of what we do on this show.
We want everybody to feel comfortable. We want everybody to
feel like they can say what it is that they
experienced because we're not going to judge you. We weren't there, no, Yeah,
were we to say that this did or did not happen?
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, absolutely, you're you're exactly right now. Brook. You might
have touched on this, you know you guys noticed at
the beginning I had to step away for a minute
to let Yogi out, so I missed a little bit
of what you let off with. But I'm curious if
(17:12):
you've ever had a siding.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
So I will say this, I say yes and no,
just because I can't say one hundred percent, So I
will just lay the scene and we'll go from there.
So I think a lot of people kind of know
class A and class B. So the class A as
you saw it, and you cannot misidentified as anything. Class B.
(17:39):
You heard it, maybe found a footprint, hair scout things
like that.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
I was on a scouting trip in November up in
the Florida Panhandle. I went with Jeff and Marion and
another woman we were up and we were kind of
scouting locations that the rest of the group were going
to come out and check out. We had some areas
trying to get a lay of the land and everything
before the actual expedition in February, and my friend were
(18:08):
sitting around the fire is literally our last night there,
and it was like a freeze morning, which, by the way,
is like super unusual for Florida. Now we're pretty close
to the Alabama Georgia line where you know, it's just
like Panhandle, but still, like a freeze warning in Florida
is unheard up. I would did not pack freeze warning
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clothes when I did on this camping trip. So essentially
we're like, what the heck. So we're kind of all
around the fire trying to you know, bundle up. It
was gonna be a cold night. It was gonna be
like twenty seven degrees in dropping. So we'd made some
chili and we're just sitting around talking when all of
a sudden, my friend, who had been kind of cooking
and putting stuff up, realized like, oh my gosh, I
(18:51):
lost my phone because earlier, you know, Jeff drive, we
were on some trails other ways doing something. She had
gone for a little solo hike on this trail that
was near the campground. So we're like, oh crap. So
like all right, well we got to go find it, right,
So we get up and we're gonna go help her
find it. And the trail she was on was a
(19:12):
relatively short loop. It was pretty close to the thing,
so we're like okay. Because she had put on her
hunting orange because it was hunting season, she realized halfway
down the trail, oof, I'm out here in the woods.
I don't have on my orange. Let me get it
out and throw it on. She thinks that in the
midst of that it had fallen out. So I was like, okay,
we'll go take this little loop. Crepy is shit. By
(19:32):
the way, this little loop, it's like all of a sudden,
I'm like, oh, I don't like it out here. It's
like it's cold. So there's this lake and the just
the mist is rolling off. It's like a real eerie,
very dark. Actually a beautiful place if you ever want
to go and do stargaze. And because there's just no
light pollution. I mean, the closest walmart it's like two
hours away. It's nothing is out there. We were in
(19:54):
the middle of this national forest, so absolutely nothing going on,
and so we're looking for it and we're chugging along and.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Stay tuned for more. But the big Foot we're for
we'll be right.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Back the way that the trail looped around. I knew
that it came up behind someone's campsite, which is like,
because you don't want want to be loud shining flashlights
all over and everything, because this was I think at
this point, probably around you know, nine thirty ten o'clock
and you know, just trying to be respectful of all that.
And I see these lights up ahead and I'm like,
(20:30):
are we already back at the campsite? Like what is that?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Headlights? Like what is that? And I see these these
two lights and then they're They're gone. They're about like
nine ten feet up in the tree line, and so
I was like, what the heck is that? So I
was like, Jeff, can you can you come back here?
I was like, I just saw some lights. Because now
I'm thinking because he's like, no, we're not back there yet,
and I'm thinking, oh, are we are these hunters? Are
these poachers? Like st other people out here? What's going on.
(20:54):
And so he's looking and he's like, well, let's light
it up because we didn't even have our flashlights like up.
So the lights that I saw were about at the
twelve o'clock position, right, and I start shining our lights
and it's around the nine o'clock position. My light hits
these eyes and they were big, I mean huge, and
(21:17):
they hit them and then this thing goes up down, up, down,
but like quick, like a quick bobbing motion and then gone.
And I'm like, oh my gosh, like I had a
just this chill that went down my spine. I mean,
it was one of the craziest things, Like you know,
you always hear people say that, and then when you
actually feel like your blood kind of run cold, it's
(21:39):
like holy crap. And I'm like, oh my god. And
so I'm, you know, articulating to them what I'm seeing.
They didn't see it I did, and they're trying. Marian's
trying to take her thirmount and see if she can
catch anything, and he's like, well, whatever it is knows
that you saw it and is now hunkered down. And
I'm like, oh gosh. So we're like like, do you
(22:00):
want to turn around. Do you want to keep going?
I was like, oh, keep going, you know, because it's like,
you know, and now we're out here looking for this thing.
But when you really have an experience with something, you
have something really creepy happened to you, it's like, oh,
all of that stuff almost goes out of the window
a little bit and your body kind of goes into
that fight flight or freeze. Right. Yes, absolutely, so I'm like,
(22:26):
we'll keep going because here let me also preface this
with why I will not say it was a bigfoot
is because this area we were actually warned by a
different camper didn't even know who what we were about
or anything of skin walkers in the area and black
eyed kids. So I swear, and she's a local, and
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so I'm like, oh my gosh. So that's why I'm hesitant,
you know, to say whatever, because it was so quick,
you know, when.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I saw I mean that was a damn mortgage board
of fucking weird.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Yeah. Yeah, so I mean likely it it probably was
the squatch, you know, but just with all the weird
stuff happening in that area and without clearly getting to
see you know, the body or anything, but just locking
with these eyes. That's why I'm kind of like I
keep it open ended, and so we kind of keep
going on and we're going down the trail and I'm like,
(23:27):
oh my gosh, I can't believe, you know, I just
saw this. This is like craziest thing. And I'm just like,
you know, thinking about this in my mind. When all
of a sudden, Jeff pipes pipes up and he's like,
oh my gosh, like I think I just saw something
like black like paralleling us and I was like, excuse me,
and he said something like a shadow, and then you know,
we throw our flashlights up again and I'm like, oh gosh,
(23:51):
what are we going to see? And he's like it
took me like a minute to rationalize what I was seeing.
And we looked and you could see definitely like some
you know, game trails and things like that. And we
got back to camp and I was I was definitely frightened.
And I mean this particular area it was shared with me,
so before I even went up and even knew I
was going on this trip, I had a friend who
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used to live in Crustview and had to go through
this stretch of National forest, and she actually had a
skin walker experience and saw this thing go across the road, right, crazy,
crazy story. Well, no joke what she described me Jeff
(24:36):
shared with me, and I won't say the gentleman's name,
but there was a gentleman who camped at that campground
who wound up having to go to the psych ward
after being at that campground because he had a skin
walker getting like chill Sagabad, but he had a skinwalker
on the side of his truck on the running board
(24:56):
kind of the same thing. He was, you know, seeing
stuff at the campground and it was just some some
bad vibe. So it was like, you know, I was like,
I don't know how I'm gonna sleep tonight because I'm
you know, I'm like it was it was a tough night.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Well I'm sure the adrenaline was really pumping through you
with all of this, and then we're hearing all of
this rather and then seeing what you saw.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Absolutely it was and then like I was saying about
us going back in February, so we had gone back
in February, and we had had that uh, that red
light that was there when we went to that one location,
and then another night that we were out because we
kind of figured that whatever this is is near the water,
(25:41):
So where my sighting happened is like here on the
map where we were at it's like here. So we're
kind of making this like triangular area that we're you know,
there's some activity happening here. We're going to focus on
this area. And there was this river that cuts through,
so we're like, okay, how about this next night, we're
going to go on the other side of the river
and see what happens. And what's really cool about the
(26:05):
VFO is when they go on investigation. So we all
got walkies and they break up in about depending on
how many people are there, of like say four to
five max. No bigger than that, sometimes smaller, and they
have a log and I loved that. So if they
do any kind of provocation, say a how or a
knock or whatever, or if they heard something, they're looking
(26:26):
at the time and going okay, seven thirty five, we
heard a how. And then we come back in the
morning and we have a debrief and they can go, oh, nope,
that was us, that was our group, Okay, cancel that out,
and then we're able to really see the track.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I was impressed by that.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
M Yeah, yeah, because then you get to narrow doubt.
Oh so that wasn't your group, Okay, we had something
legitimately happen. And so we had gone out and I
was with Rick Ellis and some of those guys. Don't
know if you're from familiar with him, but we was
righted by this little old eighteen hundred's graveyard, which is
(27:05):
like I said, it started to turn into this paranormal thing.
But we got there and we knew that the other
groups were going to be coming shortly behind us, and
we were going to post up along this river at
different points, and so he says, well, hey, before everybody
gets here, He's like, I want to do a provocation.
So we're like okay, and he had this really cool
thing for all the bigfooters out there. It was a
(27:28):
pop gun, which I guess is like an old toy,
and he took that thing and he popped it and
it was so loud, and then all of a sudden,
we get this like scream, this howl, and it sounded
to me, I would say it sounded almost female like,
but all of a sudden, then the coyotes kicked up
(27:52):
and they started freaking out, so that it was like
we did the pop and then all of a sudden,
the coyotes and off, and then no, sooner do we
do that? Here comes the rest of the gang driving
down the road to go to their spot. So she's
He's like, I'm really glad that that we did that
when we did so the pop gun, it's a good one.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I've never thought about that, but I know exactly what
you're talking about. It's like a cork yeah right, and
thinking you pop it and it shoots the cork out
and it makes a loud ass like bang yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
And it's attached to the strings yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Yeah, yeah, and it's lightweight. He just threw it in
his pack. I'm like, wow, because you know, you never
know if you're going to find like a hardwood tree
or something while you're out there, so you know you're
able to replicate it.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
M Now, Brooke, you were talking about the eye shine
that that you witness yourself where there were and forgive
me for not remembering, but were you guys shining flashlights?
Was there any kind of light that could have been
a reflection or.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
At that point in time, I don't want to say
I had given up on finding the phone. I was cold.
You know, tired, ready to go, and I did not
have my flashlight on at that point in time. No,
and Jeff was in front of me. We're kind of
sunstering on Marion's behind me, and my flashlight was not on.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
No, okay, So you think it was like a self
eliminating I shall what I saw.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Was definitely self illuminating. I mean it, uh, Like I said,
I thought we were back at the camp I really
genuinely thought we were seeing the lights from the facilities
that were there or from this campground. Because it came
right back to the butt of someone else's camp sites.
I was like, oh, we're back already. Like that was quick,
you know, like huh okay. So that's why I was
(29:44):
kind of like, oh, well, we're back. And then it
went away and I was like, what was that? And
now then then that's when my mind started turning, and
I called him back and I'm like, hm, I just
saw something really strange up there, and then and just
you know, weirder from there.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
It's so interesting because you know, I talked to you
a little bit about Brian king Sharp. He and I
co host that big Foot podcast together. He was an
actual speaker at the conference that you just did where
you were a member of the round table. And he
shared his experiences out in the Pacific Northwest. In the
(30:23):
documentary that's coming out about the young man Daniel I
can't remember his last name, Daniel Barnett, there is that
the young man with autism from the UK. Brian was
a part of that documentary and he was there talking
about his experiences out there. And Brian, just like myself,
(30:49):
we have interviewed so many people over the years that
talk about this self illuminating eyeshine and we would roll
our eyes, you know, and just think, whatever, it's not possible,
You're crazy. And Brian talked about while he was there
(31:11):
in the Pacific North Wales shooting this documentary they experienced it,
that this self illuminating eyeshine, and he talked about what
an asshole he felt like for doubting all these people
all these years that talked about know there was no reflection.
This was not reflection. This was some type of self illumination.
(31:36):
So you've experienced it too, Yes, Do you have not
any idea on what that could be?
Speaker 4 (31:44):
No, I really don't. I would just be shooting in
the dark. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I don't lightning bugs.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Like, oh yeah, no, that wasn't the lightning box. That's
the thing that was, you know, stationary. That's when I
should not it was not moving around. You know, I
grew up in Maryland and West Virginia, and you know,
lightning bugs galore. We don't have them so much done
here in Florida, I noticed, which is lame, because they were.
I used to love summer, n love it god all. Yeah,
(32:16):
seeing all the fireflies out there, so I'm familiar with that.
And it was much larger than what a firefly would be,
and I mean illuminating, like literally, I thought it was
I thought it was two lights.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I yeah. But what I'm saying is if these lightning
bugs have the ability to self illuminate like that. We
don't know what a bigfoot is. Nobody, nobody has one
in the basement that we're studying, nobody, you know, we
don't know anything about them. Who are we to say
that they don't have this ability?
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Well and off well, I won't say it was off topic,
but you know, you look at the biluminescence that sea
creatures have. Why do they have that because they're always
in the dark. Bigfoot aren't always in the dark, but
they have to have some capability, you know, so maybe.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
It's like that, yeah, adapt to the environment, right, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, Yeah. A couple more questions that I want to
get to before we get to the audience's questions. I
want to get your opinion, Brooke on k systems. Do
they utilize them or no?
Speaker 4 (33:33):
I love that personally. I think it has to be
connected because if you look at the topography and where
you know, you have these missing for one ones or
you have these high clusters of bigfoot sightings, I mean,
you overlay it. It's undeniable. So it would not surprise
me if they're utilizing it. I mean it's so funny.
(33:54):
I actually wanted to talk about this on my show.
Is you know the mold people of Las Vegas. You
guys heard of them?
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yes, you guys?
Speaker 4 (34:00):
All right, so that's us and we're utilizing these old
tunnel systems. And so when you talk about the caves,
I would absolutely think that they have to be utilizing it,
and there's some kind of connection with that. And then
that corese topography. When you look at the map and
you see where that is with the correlation of sightings,
it's like, yeah, have.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
You seen that map that like overlays like Bigfoot siding
or whatever in the cave systems. Mh, It's it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Yeah. And I mean even in the areas where you
have the limestone courts granite, you have that energy that's there.
You know, all of our phones have have courts in it,
and yeah, I think that that's definitely a part of
this too. It's a it's a conductor.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Yeah, And I just I can't imagine, say, a severe
thunderstorm with like tornado and everything. What are Bigfoot doing?
Are they We've seen these nests and things like in
the Olympic project that's not giving any kind of shelter.
What are they doing in these just these torrential downpours
(35:14):
with lightning and tornado. Cave systems, that's what they're using,
I would think to.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Get around and every Yeah, I absolutely would think so too.
And you know, you got to think that whatever this is,
it's in my opinion, ancient and it's been here for
a very very long time. And like Tiffy Imis is
talking about, you know what, adapting and different capabilities. Yeah,
I would have to think that they would. We would
know that these caves are there and utilize them to
(35:42):
their benefits. Especially I'm sure that they have a much
broader range of sight than we do, just like we
go outside at night and our night vision only is
but so far, and these animals can see perfectly.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
So absolutely absolutely all right, before we get to the
audience questions, uh, Brook, what is it gonna take the
before science actually accepts this. Is it going to take
a body? Or is there another way to do it?
Speaker 4 (36:16):
I don't you know, It's so funny. Someone asks me
a similar question on the roundtable at the conference, and
I have to say, my opinion is they already know.
I really believe that they already know, because it's.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Gonna take something to force their hand, right, Yeah, yeah,
you know.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
What, I think it would just have to be. It's
gonna be you know what. It's gonna be somebody on live,
some kid, you know, and it's gonna be in some
city somewhere in California doing some crazy shit and they're
gonna somebody is gonna have it on live. And then
it's gonna be like a big group of thirty people
are gonna be like a rabid Bigfoot, just you know,
tearing things up. And then they're gonna be like, Oh,
(36:56):
it's just somebody in a suit. I don't know, maybe
you know, but you're right, it's going to have to
take a major event. I don't know what it would be.
I definitely think that they know. I mean, like when
we look at you know, Roswell and they you know,
supposedly have the bodies of that, and I know that
that's aliens, but still that they were recovered bodies from that.
(37:17):
And then you hear all the stories from the eighteen
hundreds of these giant skeletons that were found here in
North America that supposedly the Smithsonian came and and and
took the bones and they have never been seen or
heard from again. So I don't know. I don't know
if we'll see. If you know, my friend Mary, and
she says that if science does recognize it, that will
(37:39):
be kicked out of the woods, because she said, like,
you know, it'll automatically be a protected species because we
don't know how many of them exist. But maybe that
could be good for you know, the habitats, especially you know,
with our national parks and things like that. So I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
So do you think it's going to take a body
because photo and video is not going to do it.
If that was enough, this this would have been solved
in nineteen sixty seven with the Patterson garaction. It'd be
done because that's the gold standard. So photos and video
is not going to work. Is it going to take
(38:19):
someone bringing in a body, whether it be someone shoot
one on expedition or someone like me or you or
anybody walking up on it and just finding a dead one,
lucking up on a dead one.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
I feel like they'll try to cover it up. I
really do. I feel like I feel like they'll cover
it up.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
And you know most books that we've talked about on
that Bigfoot podcast about coming up with a proper protocol
to avoid that, we all have to be Yeah, as
much as we argue and find that as organizations in
the Bigfoot community, we need to agree on a proper
protocol if a body is found.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
I agree, Yeah, I think it's like a co op
together and figure this out. You're right, like a un
for Bigfoot, We're we're all come together.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
But it's never going to happen because people can't put
their fucking egos aside.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
That is very true.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
It's really unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
It is.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
But I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Agree though it's all going to be swept under the rug.
This isn't this didn't really happen.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
If we don't come together and work together, that gives
them all the ammunition they need to make us look stupid.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Absolutely, I think, you know, I think that there is
sort of that level of divisiveness there for a reason,
because I mean, you know, I know we talked about
we work and to get into politics. But if we
can keep people divided, they won't work together. And so
same thing you know with Bigfoot. And that's why I say,
I really really believe that we all need to stay
open minded. I have my own opinion of obviously what
(39:56):
I think bigfoot is, but I am I'm friends with
people who think the exact opposite of me, and that's
okay because none of us know. And yeah, but we
have to keep open minded, like you said, like it's
so important to stay open minded and go where the
evidence takes you. Just like like you said, Matt Moneymaker
for a long time was.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Very stay tuned for more. But the big flip repard,
we'll be right.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Back, no WU. And then you have the BFRO investigators
who are like, well, that's some really weird stuff happened
out here. So it's just you know, staying open minded
to the possibility of what it could be. You know,
even if it's not what you think. You know, you
can't it's an echo chamber. You got to be around
other people and hear other perspectives and stuff and be
(40:44):
willing to adjust your own if presented with you know,
new evidence.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
And then I said the same exact thing a couple
of shows ago. People have their own narrative in their
head of what it is supposed to be in their mind.
So any time anybody opens up their box and put
something different.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
In challenges that narrative, they're like, well.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Well that's bullshit, that's not what I think, and it's
this big thing and it doesn't need to be right
absolutely all right.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Before we get to the audience questions, Brook, this fucking
hour has flown by really high. We're going to have
to get you back on a Saturday if you're available,
because our Saturdays there are after hour shows. It's a
lot more laid back and we can go as long
as we want awesome on those. Just being a single dad,
(41:38):
I'm kind of I'm limited to that hour on the
Tuesday shows.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
But I know because I'd love to hear about your podcast.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
And yeah, well, we're going to give you a chance
to talk about that, but we're going to have to
have you back if you're open.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
To it, ma'am, I would love to.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Okay, very cool. All right, we're going to go ahead
and jump into these rapid fire Q and A questions. First,
one's coming from my good boy Troy. What top of
e boch do you use? And what is its range
of speed capabilities?
Speaker 4 (42:12):
I personally, due to my car situation, I have a
foldable it's called electric. It's like electric but without the
e so electric bike. I think I have the XP
three point zero and the range of sixty five miles.
And then my friend, if you have a hitch or
you're able to, like a truck or something, she's got
the Avington Adventure two point zero and that one's fantastic
(42:34):
as well.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
And the e box are awesome. They're an awesome tool
to have because they're so fucking quiet.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
Yeah, you know, and you can get so far.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
That's a really really cool cool thing to use. Mister
Aristol Brook, are you familiar with the telepathy tapes?
Speaker 4 (42:52):
Ooh, that sounds familiar. I think so, is that the
ones like the Gateway Project with the CIA, Because if so, yes, well,
the Oh We Go Ahead Tapes.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Are a podcast that Brian and I talked about over
on that big Foot podcast. It's amazing, Broke, if you
were open minded, if you are even a little bit
familiar with like mine speak and stuff, Oh my god.
I mean when we did the episode on the Telepathy tape,
(43:24):
I had never heard of it. Brian had had listened
to all of them, and just from what I heard,
I broke down. I started I cried on on this
episode because it was just fucking beautiful. I don't know
if you have any experience with people with autism, but
(43:46):
it's this. The Telepathy Tapes is a podcast that this
lady put together of these young people with autism. But
they're nonverbal, they don't have the ability to speak, but
they communicate with like these well I don't remember what
they call them, the boards or they type out kind
(44:07):
of what they're saying and it speaks for them. It
will blow your mind. Bro I'm telling you that the
test that they do with these kids that they can
read your mind. They can be in the same room
with you and tell you what you're thinking.
Speaker 4 (44:26):
That's scary, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
It is so mate. Please check out the Telepathy tapes,
do you you know?
Speaker 4 (44:35):
I think you're Yeah, you're the second person tell me
that I'm making of that.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Yeah, please do it.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
It's the Gateway tapes are something different. So that's a
whole other thing you guys should look into. The Gateway
tapes are nuts. That's from the CIA. But it's a
long I know we're talking about, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
I know we're talking about all right. Also, Troy, do
you have any experience or opinions on the existence of
dog Man.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
I have not had an experience with dog man. I
know that that's a lot more aggressive and a little
bit more of a negative encounters when they do. You know,
I have talked with different people who have had those experiences,
and so when I'm out in the field, I'm always
mindful of that. And I do believe it does exist
and it is out there, and I've heard some incredibly
(45:23):
compelling stories, and I know that Eastern Tennessee is like
a hotbed for it. So if you're out there, be careful.
I know that Easter. Oh well, there you go.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
You've got them are again from Troy. Do you use
lights red, white, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
I don't know if that's a question about like headlights,
I do use headlight. Red is better for night vision,
but I do use those. Yeah, when we go out,
we try to preserve our night vision by using red.
But mine has the green light too, which is pretty nice. Also.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Yeah, yeah, all right, yet, Don Moore, is your channel
the same as your name?
Speaker 4 (46:10):
Yeah? Well yes and no Facebook? Yes, yes, Dark Florida
Podcast on Instagram, Facebook and YouTube as well.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Yeah, I've tried to share. Oh, thank you Zacho throughout
the jet yepah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
All right, mister Joe Pat and real quick Joe Pet
made a donation earlier of fifty dollars. Thank you very
very much, sir for your donation. But his question what
color was the eye? Shine?
Speaker 4 (46:46):
White?
Speaker 1 (46:48):
White? Okay? Yeh uh are also, Joe Pat, are there
many caves down there?
Speaker 4 (46:59):
And Flora, there are some notable caves, but from what
I understand underneath of the water table that yes, in
the limestone, there are a lot of caves down there,
not many you can visit.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
There are few, okay. And this next one is from
our great friend Aristol it's more of a comment. One
of the best things about Dark Florida is that Brook
covers it all and not just her, not just here
in Florida.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
Yes, that is very true. I like to cover everything
from eerie, true crime, paranormal, bigfoot, anything I find interesting.
I have a special love for unsolved mysteries and things
like that, so I always like, always like to break
it up, you know, and just whatever I find interesting,
honestly awesome.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
Yeah, all right again, Don Moore, those miles of tunnels
under Pigeon Forge in East Tennessee is used by feral
humans too.
Speaker 4 (48:00):
Pharaoh humans are definitely a thing. I'm sure that they're
aware of that also, But we have Brooke.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
I'm so interested in Pharaoh humans. Yeah, especially the Happalacian
tro I mean there's something spooky going on.
Speaker 4 (48:15):
Up there for sure. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
All right, moving on, we got Northwest Native Tracker. What
if their DNA turns out to be human?
Speaker 4 (48:31):
I would refer you to Dave Polito's study. He did
an excellent DNA study with Scott Carpenter, I believe helped
him where they submitted a few samples to jem Big
that they collected and they say that the results came
back on the mother's side as being from the Middle
East two thousand years ago, with no known match on
(48:52):
the father's side.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Andrea or DNA is a mother's right right.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
Was from Middle East two thousand years ago, and that
there was no known match in gen Bank for the
father's side. So I love that stuff. If you ever
have an opportunity to hear him give that talk, it's incredible.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Okay, all right, mister t Roy. Do you a great question?
Do you carry? I?
Speaker 5 (49:20):
Do you?
Speaker 4 (49:24):
Yeah? Being a woman, I absolutely do. I think it's
important because not only not even necessarily for the Bigfoot,
but for the other people that are out there.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
I'm more afraid of people than I am fucking big
Foot or dog man or chroop oficbra. I'm afraid of
the crazy ass person.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
And listen, I don't want to be a victim. And
if there's something I can do to protect myself and
the people I care about who I'm out with, I will.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Do so, ma'am, that is an awesome, awesome that you do.
Speaker 4 (49:57):
Yeah, Because, like I said, feral human and all kinds
of weird stuff, they're.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
All kind of weird shit out there. Window Bigfoot nine
to eleven. What do you think they do when a
hurricane comes through? Good question, That.
Speaker 4 (50:10):
Is a really good question. I think that they could
be if you look at birds migration patterns, it's interesting
when a hurricane comes through how their migration patterns. They
pretty much leave an area, you know, and wildlife tend
to know that major weather events are happening beforehand. So
I think that they probably get out of dodge. They
could be utilizing the cave systems like you said, but
(50:32):
or they hunger down. But I think they could be
very in tune with the environment, just like the animals are,
and they probably leave and then evacuate just like us.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
And then again the cave systems exactly, yeah, go under. Yeah.
I think they have more of an idea what to
do than we do.
Speaker 3 (50:52):
Absolutely well, they've been out there longer then we would.
They know how to survive that stuff.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
All right, Brook, ma'am again, you are welcome to come back.
If you will come back for a Saturday show, I'd
love to Tiffany or myself will set it up right
after the show. All right, we would love to have
you back. But moving on from this one, tell everybody
about your podcast. Anything you have coming up anything you
(51:22):
want to promote, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (51:24):
This is absolutely so. Dark Florida Podcast is available wherever
you listen to your podcasts, please feel free to listen,
and got several episodes out you can catch up. Like
I said, we talk about everything eerie, true crime, bigfoot, cryptids, paranormal,
unsolved mysteries, strange news because there's plenty of that, so
(51:47):
we cover it all and I'd love to get into it.
And you can find me on Instagram at Dark Florida Podcast,
YouTube dot com, slash dark Florida for one one and
then I do have a face book page is a
private group called Dark Florida where you can connect with
me there or on my personal page Brooke Morlands, So
(52:09):
that's where you can find me. And yeah, it's been
an awesome time being on here today. I really appreciate
you guys for having me.
Speaker 3 (52:16):
Yes, I haven't talked much, but the chat's kind of
been a little busy, so I see it.
Speaker 4 (52:21):
Yeah, I'm trying to keep up with.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
It, Brooke, if you don't mind, ma'am, send me links
to everything that you want shared. And what we do
is we take the audio from these live shows and
I upload those two podcasts where our audience is much
much larger, so we can reach a lot more people.
(52:47):
So whatever links you want shared, please send those to
me and I'll get those at it.
Speaker 4 (52:54):
Yeah, and if you're able to send in the audio,
I'll upload it on my RSS feed as well.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
Sweet, we can definitely do that, all right, thank you?
All right again, man, thank you so much for hanging
out with us. This was amazing. We will get you
set up for a round two and uh yeah, stay
cold down there in Florida.
Speaker 4 (53:16):
All right, thank you, enjoy your evening.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
Ma'am Hughes well, bye bye bye. Hey everybody, thank you
so much for checking out this episode of the Bigfoot Report.
We appreciate everything that you guys do. All of the
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Speaker 5 (54:40):
Through the woods, the pine trees, sway, shadows long at
end of day, bigfoots call on the whispering breeze. Secrets
kept by nine shoot trees. Man, how's bringing the moon?
(55:04):
Echoes in the silent too tracks We five, but answers none.
A hunt for truth that's just begun. We're searching past
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the fire light. Four creatures hidden out of sight in
the forest heart, where shadows lay seeking see krets in
the twilight. Through the fall a shape did glye skin
(55:54):
walker eyes saw wide legends of we chase to night
in the dark. Our lanterns bright by the cree quil,
water spill whispers wry, the winds chill full of steep
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man tails on top in this land the myths of
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out of sight, in the forest heart, where shadows lay,
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!