TBR EP:298 Buckeye Bigfoot

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
And these people that claim or carry themselves without actually
claiming to be an expert, a bigfoot expert. I mean,
come on, what the hell is a bigfoot expert? There
is no such thing as an expert when it comes
to bigfoot.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
They know in an instant that you were in the woods.
There is no hiding from them, There is no being
quiet or.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Sneaking up on them.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
As soon as you walk in the woods. Do you
walk in their front door thinking that you are going
to surprise them. You're only kidding yourself.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
We have got to get it out of our heads
that anecdotal evidence is not evidence. The best way, in
my opinion, that we have to learn about these creatures
right now is by listening to and talking to those
that have experiperience them, those who have witnessed them and
experienced them in their own environment.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
We do what we do to try to bring awareness
to this topic, to be an open door for somebody
to walk through, to be able to share their story,
a listening.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Ear, a support hold for those who have held their.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Own encounters with that which is not supposed to exist.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
We've got to open our eyes, people, there is something
out there. All of these thousands of people that have
seen something. They're not all aligned, they're not all crazy.
There are some very reputable, good people out there that
have seen something. Hey guys, it's Wayne, Welcome back to

(01:50):
the Bigfoot Report. On this episode, we wanted to share
with you guys an episode or an interview that Tiffany
and myself did over on buck Eye Big Butt. We
did this interview a month or so ago back when
we announced the rebrand. It was around the time that

(02:13):
we launched it, and uh Nance over at buck Eye
Big Butt, who has been instrumental in helping us get
this going, had us on over there to talk about
it and share our opinions on other topics dealing with
the big Butt phenomenon in general. Just had a great

(02:34):
time over there, and I wanted to share it with
you guys. Not everyone got to hear it. So yeah,
anyone out there that has not checked out Buck Eye
Big Butt, please do yourself a favor and had over there.
Nance does an amazing job. Again, that's buck Eye Big
Butt on YouTube. But yeah, I'm happy to bring this

(02:57):
to you guys. Y'all sit back, relax, We're getting started.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
So anyway, welcome tonight. I know, I said we were
going to do it a little bit of Q and
A and then I want to introduce you to some people,
but you know, I just couldn't wait. I want to
go ahead and introduce them right here, right now, you
can see who they are. I do want to let
you know that the itch you have for more big
fit encounters is about to be scratched in a very

(03:27):
very good way. I want to introduce you to Wayne
and Tiffany previously. Wayne. You know, how about I let
you speak for yourself. Why don't you tell them all
about what you're doing and yeah, get them excited.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, I mean, if you guys need a scratch, and
I'll be happy to scratch you up and down.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Sorry said that Rock.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
You're awesome man. Yeah. I recognize a few names in chat,
so I might not be new to everyone. But when
I started, I started back in twenty nineteen, I formed
a bigfoot research organization called Manimal Research, and I started

(04:18):
a YouTube channel talking to bigfoot people. A couple of
years into that, I get approached by mister Brian king Sharp,
who is the host of Sasquatch Odyssey. He asked me
to come on his show because of a documentary that
I was asked to be a part of. So I

(04:39):
went on and Brian and I just we hit it off.
We became really really fast friends. He used a couple
of my episodes, my past episodes on his show, and
eventually he got around to asking me to take over
his show, Paranormal Odyssey, because he he started Sasquatch Odyssey,

(05:01):
which is hugely successful. It was probably a top three
bigfoot podcast in the world, and his audience was asking
for paranormal stuff, so he started Paranormal Odyssey. He quickly
found that he didn't have the time to run two
shows and that and he added a true crime show,
so he was doing three shows. So he and I

(05:24):
become really good friends, and he asked me to take
over for Paranormal Odyssey, and I wasn't going to tell
him no. That was a huge, huge opportunity, so I gladly.
I gladly did that, and I've been doing that for
a couple of years. About a year or so, back
reached out to Tiffany, who had been there from day one,

(05:47):
asked her to come on and do some some producing roles.
So she came on as a kind of like an
executive producer, and quickly turned into a co host. To
be honest, you know, she does just as much of
the for the show as I do. But Paranormal is
not my bread and butter. Everyone that knows me knows

(06:08):
that I'm a bigfoot guy, and Brian and I have
been talking for over a year now about doing some
rebranding over there. So what we have come up with
is we're going to change the format of the show.
We're changing everything about the show. Paranormal Odyssey will now

(06:28):
be known as The Bigfoot Report. So from this point on,
we've already made the change over on YouTube. We're doing
that currently for the podcast, but we are going to
be the Bigfoot Report, and there's not going to be
a whole lot to change the changes that are coming.

(06:51):
Miss Nance here has been awesome and instrumental in getting
me ready to do. We're going to continue to help people. Yeah, yeah,
you've been awesome, ma'am. There's stuff that you've done behind
the scenes that we're not even going to talk about
because I don't want to embarrass you, but you have
been You've been amazing. But what we're doing is we're

(07:16):
still going to do our interviews. Tiffany and I do
live interviews every Tuesday and every Saturday night, so we're
going to continue to do that, but it's going to
be Bigfoot related, not paranormal. We're also going to give
you guys a couple of encounter episodes, kind of similar
to what Nan says over here on buck Eye Bigfoot

(07:38):
and can I ask a quick question? Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Are you going to keep your Bigfoot encounters that you're narrating?
Are those going to be separate? Like if they want
to just go listen to just those, is there going
to be a separate playlist or a certain day, how
would they find those?

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yes, ma'am, that's a great question. I released our first
two episodes today of strictly Encounters, and they are in
their own playlist when you go to our channel if
you just go to videos, they're gonna be the first
two that you come to. But you can go to
playlist and look at all of our different sections. So yes, yes, ma'am,

(08:15):
they're going to be able to find that. We're hoping
that a lot of the people that come over will
be interested in the interviews because we asked some of
the most awesome people that hang out with us over there.
If Tiffany and I decided to stop doing to stop
doing interviews, there would be a small group of people

(08:37):
that would hunt us down. They are at a lot. Yeah,
it is. It's a great thing. A lot of them
are in the chat tonight, mister Gooney, Google, Chris Blaylock,
Troy from Tennessee, and Naoma Miss Naoma finn I love you, ma'am.
We were just talking about you before we went love

(08:57):
the Yeah, these people would hunt us down if we
stop doing interviews. So we're going to keep doing those,
but we are going to try to do two episodes
a week of encounters to add it on to that.
So I'm doing a lot of talking, Tiffany, I don't
want to take it all. If you want to jump in,

(09:17):
ma'am and kind of take over, No, you're.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
I mean, you're good at talking.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
You've covered pretty much everything I will put out there.
Though we do have we do have our own specific
email now if you want to be on the show,
it's a separate email. So if you want to be
on the show with us, it's Tiffany or will Wayne
at Paranormal Worldproductions dot Com. If you have encounters that

(09:43):
you would like to have us narrate. You can send
it to the Bigfoot Report podcast at gmail dot com.
So we're always looking for those.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
So I wish I had away real quick. I didn't
think ahead of time. Your new Bigfoot Report logo is awesome.
It's really cool. You're going to see him sitting there
with his little laptop, a little, not a little, a
big sasquatch. So I think that's really cool. I wish
I had thought a head. I could have maybe found
a way to show that to people.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
I didn't think about it either, I think.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
About it, so I thought about everything else apparently.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
But now that and you know, guys, to be honest,
Nance is the one she was instrumental in that. She
has helped me in every part of this rebranding. Brian
helped me get the podcast going. He taught me so much.
The microphone that I'm using, the soundboard, all that stuff.

(10:39):
None of that would be possible if it without Brian's guidance.
All of the other stuff like the CANBA and the format,
the structure, it wouldn't be possible without Nance. And for
these two, just real quick, NANCE want to brag on you. You,
in my opinion, you're a giant when it comes to

(11:00):
Bigfoot Narration. You're awesome at what you do. Coming up
on ninety thousand subscribers, that's amazing. For you to tell
me that you see something in me and you want
to invest in me just means the world to me.
So I want to thank you for that.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Well, we're having us on tonight means the world because
we weren't so hard at what it is that we do,
and we try to give people what they want, and
you know, so I mean kudos.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
I know a lot of I don't want to name this.
I know some channels are very antagonistic, some are not.
Some are not antagonistic towards others, but they really don't
want to associate with other channels. And everybody runs their
channel their way, and there's nothing wrong with however they
run it. They don't have to be really friendly. Nobody

(11:52):
says that. I'm just I am a friendly person by nature,
and I am a helpful person by nature, and a
lot of people help me. So I don't know. I
just I don't see. There's so much food at the
YouTube table, especially in the world of Bigfoot, that I
don't I think it Everybody, like I said, there's always
people are always looking for more Bigfoot encounters. I get

(12:15):
emails constantly or comments, Oh I wish you would put
out more than twice a week. I wish you would,
you know, do some every day. Well, if I got
that many emails, I would. But there's always other channels.
So that's why I said, I think there's always room
for more YouTube. Two more channels showing up doesn't take

(12:36):
viewership away from me, not that I've seen. I mean,
maybe it does, but I don't think so. I think.
I think. I just I would rather see everybody succeed.
I just I don't understand why some don't.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
So yeah, I mean, and that's just the world that
we live in. Everyone is, or most everyone is out
for themselves. Brian, Brian welcomed me with open arms. To
this day, I'm amazed that he took me under his wing.
And it's the same with you. And if I could

(13:09):
have half the success that y'all have had, if Tiffany
and I can have half the success that you guys
have had, we'd be happy.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Oh yeah, for sure. And Brian introduced me and Wayne.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
And it's so funny because I sent I didn't get
a chance to send it to you. Wayne, I was
going to, but.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
I was going through. And it was January third of
twenty twenty three. What was the very first time.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
You had texted me introducing yourself, saying, hey, Brian wanted
me to reach out to you, YadA YadA YadA, and
I've been here ever since, so you got.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
To share, you know.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
And if we're all in it for the same reason,
I mean.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Yeah, so now you both will be doing the narrations, right,
so if somebody goes over there, it's not going to
be all Wayne, They're going to hear They're going to
also hear you as well.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Correct, correct, Okay, Yeah, and Tiffany is better than me.
I don't. I have no problems admitting that at all.
But yeah, like the first episode that we put out,
there's other episodes that were we have covered and talked
about and narrated big foot encounters, but we don't have

(14:18):
them listed under the new show, The Bigfoot Report. But
there's two right now, and both of those I think
the first one has two of Tiffany and one of me,
and then the second one is like two and two.
So yeah, you're going to get both of us in
every episode.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Okay, that's cool. You know, earlier I got a couple
of questions in and I was going to do question
and answer before I brought you guys on. But a
couple of these questions I thought would be neat if
we all kind of gave our own answer because they're
not nance specific A few of them, Like, I mean,
I get this one, I think for every live stream.
But do you think the Patterson Gimlin Field film is real? Yes?

(15:04):
Or no? For me, it's absolutely hands it down, it's
absolutely real. I can't imagine they had the technology to
fake that back in nineteen sixty seven. I mean, that
was better than Hollywood could do for Planet of the Apes. Yeah,
So how do you guys feel?

Speaker 3 (15:20):
I would agree, you would.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Agree, yeah, And I was gonna say, I mean, the
Patterson Gimlin film was nineteen sixty seven October nineteen sixty seven.
I think as you touched on Nant's Planet of the Apes,
they won the Academy Award for Best Costume and year
before the year after, it's two or three years in

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that time frame. So if that's the best Hollywood could do,
Hollywood is top notch. I mean, you got no better.
If those apes were the best that you could get
back then, how did these cowboys do that?

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Right?

Speaker 4 (16:01):
And let's put that in perspective considering if you look
at the original, the very first planet of the Apes.
I can't swear that all of them, but I believe
the majority of all of them on screen they had
their hands and their face and maybe their feet done,
but most of them were covered up. You weren't able
to see chest muscles, you weren't able to see those

(16:21):
kinds of motions when walking. I just there's a reason
they kept them covered, like you know, up to their neck,
so because it was just too much. So no, I
don't believe that that two cowboys, even if they had
the money. I just it just wasn't available. It couldn't
be done.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Why you have the herniation of the calf muscle or
that no, the sie muscle. Yeah, I mean, why are
they gonna, you know, think that far?

Speaker 1 (16:48):
You know, and breadth? Why would you put breast on
a big foot?

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Exactly? I think it was doctor Meldrim. I was watching.
I watched so much stuff. I wish I'd paid better attention,
But it was remember if it was it was something
on YouTube and what they discovered is they had cleaned
up the Patterson Gimblin film and the most interesting thing
that caught his attention was there was one frame where

(17:14):
you could see the toes were raised up as it
went to go put its foot down, and that was
something that had to do with the mid tarsal break.
So I think, yeah, the toes had lifted up and
you could see it clearly. So the heel was the
ball of the foot was on the ground, but the
toes had lifted up, and that, they said was very

(17:36):
indicative that you couldn't possibly do that. There's so much
that I've watched with that. I guess I really need
to start taking better notes because I'm always like, you know,
I saw this thing, never know what it was. I
just have to playlists and everything just plays. You know,
I'm doing housework and doing other things. But yeah, I

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don't believe that they could possibly take that.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
So and because of that film and listening to the
people like you were alluding to nance the people that
have broken it down, like doctor Meldram, one thing that
you will notice, and it's something that I imply or
I apply to every bigfoot footage that I see and
trying to determine if it's real or not. We as humans,

(18:21):
we kind of slide our feet our The bottoms of
our feet pretty much stay vertical, you know, as we walk.
If you will watch that film and most reputable bigfoot encounters.
As she takes a step, you can completely see the
bottom of her foot. Make that it's up, she kicks

(18:42):
it up. We don't do that as humans try to
walk like that. It's weird, it's kind of odd to do.
And almost every step that Patty takes you can see
the bottom of her foot, and that that's something that
they wouldn't have thought to do in nineteen sixty seven.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
I don't think they had enough knowledge and they certainly
didn't have the capability. They were lacking in both of those.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
And that's the thing that always brings me back is
because there it's nineteen sixty seven, guys, there wasn't.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
They didn't, like you said, they didn't have the capability.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
And I mean they took footprint casts the next day, right,
so in.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
Their footprints a lot of them back then their casts.
It really wasn't and I could be dead wrong, it
really wasn't decoded until much later that those prints were
showing a mid tarsal break, which if you didn't understand
anatomy of a lot of the great a lot of
the other species, you would never know to try to

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fake that. And we're talking decades ago, so I think
that's also very compelling to me personally.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah, I mean to me, the mystery was all in
nineteen sixty seven. We should have been able to it
to Bed then, and the fact that that footage isn't
enough to prove the existence tells me that it's going
to take a body.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
I've always said all along, it's going to take a body.
I know we talked about earlier. People claim to be
experts on this. I would allow very few people in
this world to probably say they're experts on big doctor Meldrim.
Of course, it would certainly be one, because you know,
he has a scientific background on top of just his interest.

(20:31):
So that is very compelling. But until we have one
dead or alive to study scientifically, there will never be
belief in it wholesale, certainly by the scientific community. And
unfortunately that is what it will take. I'm not a
fan of that thought that I also recognize that is
a true reality. That's reality.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, now it's real quick if you could popa Naoma's
comment at A eighteen because it kind of speaks to
what I was talking about.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
Yeah, go ahead, Oh, I see, the average human has
a seventeen percent bend in their knee when they walk.
Patty's ben was nearly ninety. You're right. I mean that's
extraordinary and it's it's one of those things that I
don't think people the naysayers just like to throw things.
Oh I can walk like that. I'd like to see
you do it. Many have tried. The one guy who

(21:23):
said he was the guy that did it and had
thatus heronymous whatever. Yeah, I'm sorry. That crappy little costume
he held up looked like it came from Halloween Express
with some extra toughs glued on. It wasn't even close.
I don't know who that crown thought he was going
to fool, but nobody, is the answer. So yeah, that's

(21:44):
kind of crazy, kind of kind of crazy. So all right.
The other one was somebody asked, do you think bigfoots
are in the realm of humans? Now, I'm going to
answer what I did because I had to look a
few things up. I got really down on the reeds

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about what the difference is between a hominid and a hominin,
and a hominid apparently encompasses the entire species, or not species,
the entire world of great apes, modern, current and extinct.
Now great apes also include US humans, but it also
includes orangutangs, chimpanzee, gorillas. Hominine is modern and extinct human

(22:33):
lines only, so in my mind the most And if
someone's out there with a scientific background, doctor Maldram, if
you're out there listening, shoot me off an angry email
and tell me how wrong I am. If I'm wrong,
I'm cool with that. But if we assume that Bigfoot

(22:53):
it did descend or is still a gigantapithecus, which most
people agree is the most likely thing that would be
in the realm of the great apes, that would be
a hominid. It is not in the human lineage. I
don't know if that makes sense, But if you look
at the actual scientific breakdown species classifications, we split at tribe.

(23:20):
I think it is. I think let me see, did
I write that down? We have the same scientific classification
all the way down to family. Once you go past
family in the scientific classification, our tribes are different. And
that is the actual thing is it is a tribe
we are not humans. Are not in the same tribes.

(23:41):
They're completely different. You can look it up. So I
don't believe that they are in human lineage. I don't
anymore than I think I think they're in the great
ape realm. But then again, technically, so are we. I
don't think of them as human, and I do think
that they're a human type or like a human cousin.

(24:06):
Like a gorilla to me is not a human, right,
but they are very very close to us. So I
don't know what you guys's thoughts are. Maybe that'll help
people out there listening figure out where you stand.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, go ahead, Tiffany.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
I've never really considered them to be within the realm
of human but we hear so many encounters of I
couldn't shoot it.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
It looked too human in the face.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
So, but as far as scientifically does it line up
that way, no, Well, I'm going to look at it
that way.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
I'm going to jump in here with one thing talking
about how people say they can't shoot them. The last
time I was at the Cincinnati Zoo and I got
pretty eye to eye with quite a few of the
different apes. In one of the gorillas.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Stay tuned for more. But the big flit we board,
We'll be right back.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
They look human to me when they looked at you,
because you could see the intelligence in them. These were
not dumb animals. I mean, I'm not saying I had
a great moment with you know, Harambe Cincinnati, Zeup or anything.
But they just didn't strike me as dumb animals. However,
when I go to see and I'm seeing the lions

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or I'm seeing the tigers, there, oh there's intelligence, but
it's a cold intelligence. It's very different. I would never
mistake them for human, but I could a lot of
the others if you understand the difference. So even if
they are in the great Apron, to me, they're going
to still probably feel too human to shoot. Now, there
are people out there that have no problem shooting humans. Yeah,

(25:49):
so you know, yeah I have someday.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
I mean, my only thing is I say my only thing.
I mean, there might be more, but the only thing
I can think of right now is I tend to
go back to like Native American thinking and the Native
American low A lot of them said that there were
a different tribe, a different tribe of people, but they
didn't know that. They didn't have the technology and the

(26:16):
knowledge that we have now. So my personal thing, I
think I've always been in the biological camp. This is
a North American primate that we have not caught up
with yet. We just don't know enough about it. As
far as being a human, I don't put them in

(26:38):
that class.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
No, yeah, okay, it was just an interesting question that
someone sent me, so I thought it merited a little
bit of a discussion.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
Now here's another one I got that was really interesting,
and it said, why is it that reports of bigfoots
vary so much? Why don't they all look roughly the same?
My answer is real simple. If I go looking for
dogs and not every dog is going to look exactly
the same, with the same fur, color, pattern, height, whatever,

(27:14):
But they are all dogs to me. It stands the reason.
However you want to classify the big foot or sasquatches,
however they are in the chart of and whatever, the
point is, I think that they're going to be as
different looking some of them as the rest of the
animals in the animal kingdom. Not every single animal looks

(27:36):
exactly the same. Species will have a lot of differences
within their own species. So you know, they're also usually
very different according to where they live, what their environment is,
what their diet is. That can affect things over you know,
hundreds or thousands of years. So I don't think they
have to look exactly the same. I think a lot
of them from certain areas tend to have same care teristics.

(28:01):
But couldn't that be said of humans over the whole world.
You know, we react to the environment that we've you know,
spent our evolutionary years in our food, our diet, of course,
So I'm not concerned that people say they look different.
I don't. A human sure don't look the same. We
have had arms, legs, whatever, but we look different.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
You know, if you stood me up next to a
Dallas Cowboy cheerleader.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
I assure you'd like that.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
I mean, I wouldn't mind it. But we're gonna we're
gonna look different. You know. I don't. I don't look
like that. But we're both humans, you know, I mean,
you stand me next to an NBA player, seven foot tall, muscular,
we're both humans, but we look different. So I don't.
I don't buy into that either.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Nance Yeah, I don't either. And if you hear my
dog he doesn't either.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
I'm sorry, I understand that.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
I understand people argue, you know, most red foxes look
like red foxes, but then they don't look a thing
like the Arctic fox. They don't look a thing like
a gray fox. They're all foxes, that's true. But yeah,
I just I'm not concerned because I think the way
I read their email, they were concerned that these reports

(29:25):
couldn't be very true because they're all they all look
at Bigfoot, or the bigfoot they look at is described
very differently, and I just don't think that that's a
compelling reason to discount, you know, if it's not the
ideal bigfoot size and type or color so correct.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
Well, and that's what we talked about last night.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
On Bigfoot Podcast Live, was people formulate this narrative in
their head of how things are, how things are supposed
to be, but it's not reality, right, So I absolutely
agree with you. Different different localities, different diet, you know,
they're going to be completely different in those circumstances.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
Well, and I also think if we look at different
human I don't want to say tribes, but different human
enclaves might be a good word. Throughout the millennia. If
you have people who stay in the same area and
they inter marry within a you know, a ten or
twenty mile range, which was more common until the invention

(30:31):
of the automobile. Right most people lived and died. I
think it was within twenty miles of where they were born.
They lived their whole life there. What you had was
the same commingling of genetics over and over. Not interbreeding,
but you know, the same genetic types kept for thousands
of years. That's why people from the Mesopotamic region look

(30:53):
very different than those from Ireland, you know. So I
think that might also be what's happening with some of
these bigfoot populations. They are staying together now probably not
so much because now they're probably being forced to go
look further afield for food, for habitat safety mates. So

(31:15):
I don't know, that's just my opinion.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, So you got any more questions from your audience now.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
Well, none that I think would really invite a lot
of discussion, Like what's the music at the end of
my video? I get that one a lot because everybody
likes I'll tell you what it is. I downloaded it
from a paid subscription site called story Blocks but you
might be able to find it somewhere else. It's called
Wonder and Mystery and the artist is John Pressstone with

(31:46):
two s's like press and then tone. So I actually
had like three or four different people asked me that
just since the beginning of the year, did I have
an experience? No, I've never had experience of my own.
I had family that did, but as for me, no,
I did not. Someone asked me, why don't I put

(32:09):
out more stories from this person or that person. I've
had a lot of requests. Some people want Dee from Missouri,
some people want the Sunshine Coast, some people want this
person that person. There are a lot of reasons they
may not have sent something back in. There may be
something with the one they just sent back in that
there may be a reason I can't narrate it. There

(32:31):
are a lot of different reasons to trust me. As
soon as I get something that I can put out,
I put it out because there's no benefit to me
to sit on something. If that makes sense, Yes, I
really think. I think that's about all of them that
I had. I didn't get as many this time as
I often get.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
So well, nat, if you don't mind, I'd like to
bring something up I'd like to talk about, like how
you and I met.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Bring it up.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
You and I met and Tiffany. Tiffany was with us
last year at the Smoky Mountain Bigfoot Conference. Yep, this
would be the third this year will be the third
one in a row that that I've been at. But
but you were there, and you actually had a booth
across from us, Brian the Paranormal World Productions booth, and
we had talked a little bit before, so we kind

(33:28):
of knew each other, but you know that that's where
we kind of made our introduction and met in person,
and you walked me and Tiffany over to her name
is Escaping with Susan. She held the Greenville conference, yes, exactly,
to her booth so that we could meet her. Susan

(33:49):
is a lady that puts on the Greenville, Ohio conference,
where you and I were both speakers at last year,
and we got to spend a lot more time together there.
I thought that was really cool.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
It was we'll do it again this year this year
that she moved it to Salina, Ohio. I believe it is,
and I'll be a speaker there. It's the only one
I'm doing this year. It's the only event I'm going to.
I'm kind of taking a year off for a lot
of different reasons, so I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yeah. She she actually got russ accord she was she
got russ accord Us.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
Oh yes, yes, I heard about that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, that's going to be awesome. I think that's really
going to help her draw in the crowd there.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Yeah, she's the event is growing. Her first year was Gangbusters.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
So what what do you is?

Speaker 4 (34:39):
Nance coming to the cabin for dinner?

Speaker 1 (34:42):
This Tash Troy Nance. We were talking before we come on.
You told us that you're not coming to the Smoking
Mountain conference. No I'm not, but we're going to be
there and we miss Chris Blaylock, who is in the
audience tonight. Her and her husband Gary or Goony Goo Goo.
They have rented a I think the six bedroom cabin

(35:07):
and it's so nice. A bunch of us are staying
there and the night after the conference we're having a
dinner and we're inviting all of our friends and like
members of our channel uh to come and hang out.
So you would have more than been more than welcome.
But you're not going right.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
No, I'm not, unfortunately, should come for that barbecue.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Nance I'm telling.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Us Troy Conmon, I'm definitely we're not.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
We got some things going on this year that we're
pretty much staying close to home for a lot of reasons. Yeah,
and yeah, we're we're not making many appearances this year
for for just a lot of different reasons.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, But I did want to ask you,
being from Ohio, Nace, do you know anything about the
new location that Susan holding the event.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
That Yes, and no, I know it has a huge
bigfoot I don't want to call it a statue. It's
the County Fairgrounds. I've never been there. I've heard good
things about it though, so here it's supposed to be
really nice. It's big, so I'm looking forward to it. Okay,
I'll try to get more information. I got to talk

(36:22):
to Susan soon about all of that. So I don't
even know if I'm going to have a booth there,
to be honest, because I'm not investing in any merchandise
this year. I make a lot of my own merchandise.
But like I said, this year, we've got some things
going on family wise and whatnot, so I don't intend
to be traveling much, if at all. So and to

(36:44):
answer you, old bear, am I coming to Sault Work
this year? I need to get together with you and
Barb on some dates. I'll see what's going on. Like
I said, we got we got some family stuff that
you know, it is what it is. But if I can,
you know, I will. At first. Yeah, it's it's only
about three and a half hours from my house, so
it's it's not too bad. It's very doable. But we

(37:06):
don't camp. I have to go to the Saltfork State
Lodge and get a room. So and so it happens
when you have arthritic back and all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
It's just.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
I feel that with my shoulder, and I think it's
grown in my knee and that author it is, I
feel it.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
I got you.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
Yeah, yeah, so you know, I don't know. I'll find
out more from season. Was there something you were looking
for in particular about her venue?

Speaker 1 (37:35):
No, I just she was really really excited about the
new the new venue, and I just didn't know if
you knew anything about it.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
I've never been there. It's it's especially be really big.
It's the fairgrounds for that county. It's Salina ohio ce
l I n A or is it s e L.
I don't remember now, I'll have to look it up.
So and everybody be sure to get your tickets for

(38:03):
that event early if you want. I think entrance to
the event is free. But if you want to hear
the speakers, I think there's tickets for that. I'm not
sure how so.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
I had the website pulled up here, but I didn't
want to step on any toes.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
Do it.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Let me see if I can do that. Yeah, you
have to share it, man, Yep, all right, I'll control it.
There you go. Speakers there there, mister Russell Cord.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
I gotta get her my bio. She asks for a
bio like a month ago, and I don't think I've
done it yet. That's so terrible.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Who's that guy? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
He looks like I.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Know.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
I hear a big deal on YouTube. That's what I've heard.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Miss Naoma she is in the chat. Love you, ma'am.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Yeah, I mean it's such a great photo of her.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Yeah, I love her. Da Roberts. I had an amazing
time hanging out with him last year. He is a
cool guy.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
He's super nice.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Yeah, and his wife. I think it was his wife
there with him. Really really lovely people.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
I'm not familiar with Mike Miller.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
Nope, but we'll get to know him, my bet.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Yes we will. Robbie Rains, of course, was there last
year as well. Yep mm hm, he's another really good guy.
Robbie Rains does the tracking class. I think Da is
going to help him. I'm doing the print like the
casting class again. I did that last year. And then
who is that?

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Oh some crazy chick.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
She looks very happy with that there.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
Yeah, that was down at Gatlinburg at one of the stores.
It was a huge statue and I was like, oh,
I got to take my picture.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
So it was so much fun. Some of the pictures
from last year. It was a great, great time.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
I liked everything. I was not happy with the food
at one of the food trucks, but that was just
my own personal bright. Everything else I really loved. I
really really loved it.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yeah, I had and my son. There there's me and
my son. He was blessed with the height and the
looks in the family. So and I'm six foot tall.
Oh there you go. But uh, he got us both
a banana pudding funnel cake and oh my god, you.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Sent me a picture of that banana pudding. Did you
eat it all in one?

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (40:48):
No, I couldn't. I could not eat it all.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
I was huge.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
I was like, man, he's going to be sick.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Yeah, all right, that's all I got, nansa if you
want to take it down. I just wanted to share
a little bit about what we did last year.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
So does anybody out there have any questions for Wayne
or Tiffany or just about Bigfoot in general? And again,
I'm trying to use my iddy bitty notebook laptop that's
like this big, So if I can't read over here,
somebody else pointed out for me if I miss something good?
Does anybody have anything?

Speaker 2 (41:24):
I think someone up here, let's see, ummm your Chad's
very busy, yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
Large charco.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Yeah. And they almost ask him a question there.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
At what time a thirty three pm?

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Wayne, Tipny and nance, what is your take on the
whole nephilum theory regarding Sasquatch? And I'm going to be
the first to sit here and tell you I'm not
going to come on here and try to act like
I know everything, because I don't. I am not learned
enough in that topic to I feel given opinion.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
That's an eight thirty nine nance.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
That's one of thirty eight thirty five.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
I'm like, what, it's one of the new ones.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Oh okay, okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Uh lowcharcore, Nancy, you want to go on that.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
I don't think I have enough information to give an
informed answer. I'm not as well versed in the nephelum theory.
I know a lot of people really are proponents of that.
I really haven't read into it or looked into it
enough to be really yeah, I don't think I can
give a real proper answer. I really can't.

Speaker 5 (42:42):
Well see our answers match.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
It's on you, buddy.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
I mean, I wish I probably should look at it
a little more.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
I got cussed out. I also co host a podcast
with Brian king Sharp called That Bigfoot Podcast. If you
guys haven't checked it out, please do so. It is
not for children. It is a very very adult bigfoot podcasts.
We get pretty heated and the language can be quite colorful.

(43:13):
But I made the comment on there one time that
I don't think that bigfoot has anything to do with
a nephilim. I don't think it has anything to do
with religion. I think my personal is just my personal opinion.
I'm not right. You know I'm not wrong. Nobody knows.
I don't think that we should include Sasquatch in religion.

(43:37):
And there was this Christian that emailed in and all
but cuts me the heck out, called me everything but
a white man. How dare I think anything like that?
Challenge me on do I read the Bible? Have I
ever read the Bible? And I'm a Christian man. I
pray to God every day. I have a great relationship

(43:59):
with Jesus Christ, Amen, and I'm proud of it. I
don't think bigfoot should have anything to do with religion.
I don't think that they're fallen angels. I just don't.
But this man proceeded to rip me apart on this
email that claimed to be a Christian, And I don't know.

(44:20):
But my opinion is I don't think that they're Nephluin.
I just haven't seen enough to make me feel that way.
I don't want to upset anyone. It's just we all
have opinions, and that's mine.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
But the thing is, in the Bigfoot community, no one's
allowed to have an opinion that differs from someone else exactly,
and you're so awful. There are huge, huge egos in
this community. Not everybody is, but a lot of them.
I am never going to push my what my belief is,
how Bigfoot is framed on someone else. I've said many

(44:55):
times I'm not a believer. When I think about Bigfoot.
The first thing I think about is not whether or
not he can do mind speak or not. It's not
my belief. However, if that's what someone else believes, who
am I to say you're dead wrong? Because that's what
we have crossed the rubicon. When you start saying you

(45:17):
believe him Bigfoot, I don't know how you can do
it in degrees. You've crossed the rubicon. You've taken that
leap of faith. Why is yours the correct one? But
nobody else is? Again, until we have one we can study.
No one's an expert, No one knows everything. And so

(45:37):
those people who I've seen it too, even on my
channel in comments, well you don't know anything about them.
They don't eat this, they don't eat how would you know?

Speaker 3 (45:46):
How do you know exactly?

Speaker 4 (45:48):
Nobody knows? Mean?

Speaker 5 (45:53):
Then that's what I was saying, People formulate.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
His own narrative in their head, and.

Speaker 5 (45:58):
How do you know?

Speaker 4 (46:00):
I'm sorry, go ahead, Tiffany Oh.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
I was just going to say, how do you know
this much about something that we struggle to even find
in the woods.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
I just I allow that other people have different ideas,
and I think that that's a healthier way to go
about it than suppressing every other idea. The whole point
of science is to and I'm not saying we're scientists,
but even in science, the point is you can challenge
things that are well thought to be the truth. And

(46:35):
again and again throughout centuries, people have challenged what we
thought was right, and we go through a methodology to
prove or disprove, but no one should be shutting it down.
That's that's how it works, that's how you keep learning.
And I don't I think that's very important even when
this field, because it is until we know it's it's
until we get when I should say we know nothing thing.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
It's all speculation.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
Yeah, it's all speculation. Good question, Thank you you I
saw one right under this one. What are the telltale
signs that there's a sasquatch on your property? How about
that one of you two take a crack at it.
I'm doing all the talking. I'm getting tired.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Well how about I share what we experienced in twenty
twenty one.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Please do here on our property.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
We live in Runo, Virginia. We live on the side
of a mountain, and my husband and I I love
to do your work. I love to mow the grass. Okay,
that is my therapy.

Speaker 5 (47:38):
So I was mall on the grass we have.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
We live on a downslope. So let me put it
on the screen of our house is here. I was
finished mowing this part, and then it goes down, so
he was cutting all of.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
The vibes and stuff off the fence.

Speaker 5 (47:57):
When I'm finished with my part, I go up and I.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
In front of our house, and so he called me,
and I thought he just wanted some water or something.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
It's it's just like.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
It was twenty twenty one. Now it is four years
if fast, it was in.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
The evening, I want to say, And he can correct
me in the chat over here, because I'm pretty sure
he's in the room late June July.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
I'll get far in there.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
It was still warm, and he said August of twenty
twenty one, thank you, Zach, And he was like, hey,
do they come out in the day. And I was
like what, And he said, bigfoot, do they come out
in the day? And I was like, well, day watchers,
you know? And I was like one, he said, because

(48:53):
I think I just saw one, buddy, I'm telling you,
I was on my feet. I was down all them stairs.
He's like, e's that six one, two eighty five to
ninety and he was petrified. Nance he was petrified. He
didn't even finish the one. What he was doing with

(49:13):
the yard. And he's very anal about his yard. Okay,
he put it down. He didn't want me to leave
his side. I'm five four, you know, I'm like this.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Big compared to him. He did not want me to leave.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
And he said it was just effing gone, and he
was weed eating and he had he had turned his
music down. He was fixing the wire on the on
the bottom, or the line rather, and he happened to
look up. He's like, you know, you just feel something,
this presence. And he looked up and he said it

(49:48):
gruffed at him and was just like and then gone.
He said it was like two seconds, and he was like,
but it was so big and it was so fast.
He said, it was like somebody was throwing a walnut
or baseball through the trees that made that little click
noise and it was gone, like it wasn't even there.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Stay tuned for more but the big Foot report. We'll
be right back.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
But he was petrified after that.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
So I guess to answer your question, Chad, you see one.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
Yeah, I think seeing one would be, you know, first
and foremost, but they're not so subtle. I would say tracks,
finding tracks, things disappearing. Just from the people that we
have talked to over the years, the people that we've
had on the show. We've had people talk about their

(50:49):
dog food going missing. They're like chicken feed going missing.
They're chickens and like hogs and like farmers, like having
actual livestock go missing and lights being torn down and
things like that. That's all, you know, really that that
I could think about. And if you're experiencing something like that,

(51:12):
first off, contact Manimal Research at manimal research dot org
and we will come out and check it out. But
there are some things that you can do to help
deter them. I see Old Bear in the chat. He
and I go way back, Old Budy of mine. He

(51:33):
deals with a lot of that stuff, so he would
be a good one to ask that question too.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
From what I've heard, there seems to be a lot
of unusual things that will happen, sometimes in clusters, and
you don't understand what's really going on or why things
have happened until you have a sighting and then you're like, aha,
that makes sense, Go ahead out, Yeah, I'm sorry. There's

(52:01):
a little lag I think on my little tiny laptop here,
so forgive me. But people, of course tracks are one.
Finding unusual tree and stick formations isn't as common, I think,
near or on private properties as they are out in
forested areas. On your property, Yes, things going missing, things

(52:24):
being left where there shouldn't be anything, piles of rocks
or this or that. I've heard people say they've come
and they've found things on their steps or their porches,
only later to find out that there was a bigfoot
in the area. A lot of people have heard things.
Of course at night, that's always and I don't mean
the house, but a lot of people, like I could
swear something's breaking or something's walking over there. I've heard

(52:46):
that a million times. I've heard you know, they'll be
sitting out on the porch or sitting inside with the
windows open, and all of a sudden, they do smell
like a zoo animal kind of scent, but they don't
quite know where it's coming from. I remember one email
I got somebody said, we were sitting there and we're rules,
so we thought, gosh, do we have a leak with

(53:09):
our septic line? It smelled like sewage fresh sewage, And
the next day. In the next couple of days, they
kept going out and checking, inspecting for their sewage, but
their septic tank, but they couldn't find anything, but they
kept smelling that raw sewage smell. And then they found
out about two weeks later. They believe they had a
big fit on the property. So the thing is Chad.

(53:30):
I don't think there's any one answer to that. I
think that different. I think there are different scenarios where
they leave different things, and I think there are a
lot of scenarios where they don't leave you any sign.
There's no sign at all until you almost run into them.
And sometimes I think they're there a lot more and
we never see them. We never have a clue. That's

(53:51):
my opinion. I don't think.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
I can't agree with that more In that.

Speaker 4 (53:56):
Yeah, I think that for every report we've gotten, there's
probably an that didn't even know they had a near
close encounter.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Well, and talking about the rocks we had that, you know,
but it was after after Zach's brief, very brief, two
second encounter. We have a rock wall up in front
of our house, and so, but there were rocks that
were coming from across the street where there's a creek.

(54:27):
They were finding themselves in our driveway in a straight line,
like perfectly straight, like right in the middle of our driveway,
like we would have to move them to be able
to get the car out. So, but that didn't start
until after he had his encounter. So I fill you
with the rocks.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
Yeah, I'm seeing quite a few other ones. Let me
grab this one, Neolma, this is or Wayne, this is
for you. I love about dog Man, she asks with
a snicker. Snicker's my favorite word.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
I love you, ma'am that this is the only time
since I've known Naoma that I feel like she has
gotten like a little pissy with me, like upset with me.
And it's because I don't know how I feel about
dog Man. And that's my way of saying I don't

(55:29):
know if they exist. I think the sightings that have
been out there for dog Man could quite possibly be
a misidentified bigfoot. People talk about the different kinds of
bigfoot that there are out there the Gugway. I mean,

(55:50):
how people know there are different kinds of bigfoot for
a species that we don't even know exists. I don't know.
I don't understand that. People say there's like four different
kinds in the Gugway, Like is the worst of the worst,
the face eaters and they have a snout. From what
I've heard, couldn't that be a dog man? Couldn't that

(56:11):
what you're seeing not the part dog, part man, but
actually a different kind of bigfoot. But to me, it's
hard enough getting people to wrap their mind around bigfoot
to go ahead and throw in a seven foot tall
dog walking on two legs that will eat you.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
But see we cross that rivericon. That's what I'm talking about.
And I'm not saying I believe in dog Man. I'm
going to allow that other people believe in it, and
I will let them have their little sacred cows of belief.
And I'm not I'm not. Everybody's got to have their
own thing.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
It's funny because I don't even wait and I don't
even think I told you, but this is actually going
to be one of the things we talk about on
our Real Table Part two on the nineteenth.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Okay, so everybody got together.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Ristol made this whole section on discord different roundtable topics
to you know, talk about with Big Bud and dog
Man came up and you know.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
So, so everyone out there that's watching tonight, if y'all
want to check that out, Miss Naoma will be a
part of that roundtable. We do something kind of different.
We don't have the experts come on. We have our listeners,
our family come on, the people behind the scenes we've
been bringing. We brought them on to have a round

(57:37):
table just to see what they think. And the last
time we did it, we had such a great time,
we didn't have enough time to get it done. We're
doing a part two and that is what next Saturday.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
I have the nineteenth at ten pm Eastern.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Yeah, so we'll be talking about dog Men there, so
I hope you help. Everyone can tune in for that.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
Okay, I see one from it looks like Tommy Ryan.
I think this is interesting. A lot of people may
not know where are y'all from. I love the y'all.
Where are y'all from? And have you had your own experience? Tommy?
I am originally from right here in Butler County, Ohio.
It's just north of Cincinnati. I live out in the

(58:16):
rural sticks right now, which I absolutely love. I have
a forty five acre cornfield next to me as my neighbor,
best neighbor ever, very quiet, love it. I've lived a
lot of other places. My husband was in the military,
so I've lived a lot of other places. I've done
a lot of other traveling. But yes, southwestern Ohio, the

(58:37):
Miami Valley is still my home. So I'm here in Ohio.
I'm a true bluck eye through and.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Through me or you got me, whichever I'll go. I
am in Southeast Tennessee, Chattanooga, to be exact. One of
our research areas is a place called Big Frog Mountain.
It's part of the Cherokee National Forest, and I always

(59:05):
joke it's one of my favorite places to go. It's
it's it's creepy as hell out there. It really is.
Old Bear has been there, uh he he came down
and went to an event down there. This is where
I'm talking about y'all. I always joke that you stand
in Tennessee, you could throw a rock into Georgia. You

(59:25):
can pee into North Carolina. It's down there in the corner. Uh. So,
I there's a cat.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
Yes, I've been trying to keep her busy and she
keeps circling. So sorry, So.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
I'm in so yeah, I'm in Southeast Tennessee, in the
Chattanooga area. We do research in down here in Southeast Tennessee. Uh.
North Georgia is a is a heavy area where we
get some activity. And to answer your question, my my
only I've had several experiences, but my only believed encounter

(01:00:03):
was in North Georgia, or my only belief sighting, I
should say, was in North Georgia. I've had several several encounters,
but I have a thermal image of something that when
we did a size comparison, was around eight foot tall.
There was something swaying back and forth and a small

(01:00:24):
or something in front of it like scurrying, like playing
is the best way I could put it, moving from
left to right, running around. That was in a place
called Pigeon Mountain in Lafayette, Georgia. If you go to
the BFRO website, and in my opinion, no matter what
you think about the BFRO, that website is an amazing tool.

(01:00:48):
That database of sightings is awesome. If you're going into
a new area, pull it up. Pull the county that
you're going into up and see how many sidings. If
you will pull up Walker County, Georgia, which is where
Pigeon Mountain is. They have five reports and from the BFRO,

(01:01:08):
every one of those are on Pigeon Mountain. So that's
why we went there. We saw this thing one night.
It was in January. It was bitter cold in the
single digits and all of my equipment froze or my
all of my equipment, the battery is drained. Everything I

(01:01:29):
bring out on every expedition is charged one hundred percent.
There's no way these batteries should have died. I didn't
have enough battery on my fleare to take a video.
It would only take steals and it died two different times,
and the third time when I got back to it,
the thing was gone. So yeah, that's my only one

(01:01:49):
belief siding.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
Well, I'm from running Virginia.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
I haven't had an encounter per se, not like my
husband had the experiences you know, with the rocks and
everything like that. I've had more I think paranormal experiences
that I have bigfoot experiences. So really, the most I
can tell you was just you know what my husband
encountered that day, but nothing with me personally. I want

(01:02:18):
to see one, but I don't know if I want
to see one.

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
I always said I want to see one while I'm
in a moving car, and I want to see it
with binoculars as I'm driving away. I do want to
circle back around real quick to two things I forgot
to say. No, I have not had my own experience.
I had family that had an experience. And I want
to touch on Wayne brought up BFRO. I've said this before.

(01:02:42):
I said this again. I know people a lot of
people get they start foaming at the mouth when you
mentioned DFROO, And you know what, I'm okay with that.
You go ahead, you have your little foam MOUTHI session.
You could hate them all you want, but there are
two things I'm going to ask you to remember. One,
the people that may aid all those reports to the BFRO,
they had nowhere else to go when they made those reports.

(01:03:06):
Those are real people that made those reports. Don't throw
them out just because you don't like maybe the guy
that runs BFRO, or you believe that there's a conspiracy.
It's okay to think those things. I'm not saying anything
one way or the other. I'm saying, don't discount those people,
and don't throw every BFRO investigator under the bus either.

(01:03:26):
I've met quite a few. They're really good, serious people.
They're not perfect. They're human too. But remember they're not paid.
They're not getting a dime for it. They are volunteers.
They spend their money, they spend their money on gas driving,
you know, so they also have a passion for this topic.

(01:03:46):
I understand you don't like the organization. That's okay, but
please don't forget the people. Don't discount Like like what
you said, even if you're going somewhere new, that BFRO
database is probably the most invalue. I think the next
best would be Bobby Schort's website. She has quite a
bit on there. I can't think of what it's called. Gee,

(01:04:11):
I'll think of it later. But there's hundreds of reports
on hers as well. They're not documented in the same way,
but she collected a lot throughout the years in her life.
She was another that was a really invaluable investigator, so
please you know, I know people don't like BFROO, and
that's okay, you don't have to like them. But reading

(01:04:33):
through their reports, there's a huge myriad of information. I've
been asked before, am I considering putting all of my
emails into a big database?

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
That's kind of what I used to do. I was
a business analyst. I'm used to dealing with aggregate data
running into the tens of thousands of lines in an
Excel sheet. But I didn't do it when I began
because I didn't think this would grow into anything so big.
It was just a passion to go back now literally

(01:05:01):
through thousands of emails, collecting pertinent information from them and
aggregating it all into data sets. I just don't think
I've got the time. I have considered it because I
realized how valuable and literally to me, it is a
data set in a manner of speaking. The BFRO website,
all their reports, and I mean there's I don't know

(01:05:24):
of anywhere else you can go by state, country and
start pulling everything together for one area. It's invaluable, So
don't throw it out with the bathwaters. Is all I
was trying to say sorry, get off my soapbox.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
One and I can add a little bit to that, Nan,
it's a lot. The big reason a lot of people
don't like the BFRO is because Matt Moneymaker only believes
that they're biological. He won't accept anything outside of that.
But I was invited to go on at BFRO expedition
by miss Laurie Wade down here. She does the Tennessee

(01:05:57):
and the North Georgia expeditions. Awesome lady, A very good
friend of mine. I love her. She invited me to
go out and do one of these expeditions. And what
I learned on that thing with thirty five forty people,
most of them talked about WU. Most of them talked
about having strange encounters outside of the biological and scientific camp.

(01:06:22):
So they're not all a lot Moneymaker.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
I could be wrong, you know, less Stroud. Excuse me.
If lefs Stroud is out there listening, come whack me
over the head. But I believe that lefs Stroud mentioned
at one point something about not necessarily to speak y.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Yeah, he did, absolutely, And the Smoky Mountains in Tennessee.

Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
Okay, thank you again. I watched so much stuff I
should take notes, but I thought it was him, and
I've said it before. I think Less Stroud is more
than just a credible person. He's not somebody who is
easily frightened when he's out in the wild. I think
if he hears something, he's going to know what it is.

(01:07:08):
If he doesn't, well, I think we should listen to him.
So my point is mine speak isn't something I first
think of when I think about Bigfoot. However, I've crossed
that rubicon. I believe in Bigfoot, So who am I
to say that there isn't mind speak, or that they
aren't nephelin, or that they aren't I'm not going to

(01:07:28):
say that they are. They aren't the same with the
whole thing of what Matt Moneymaker says that they're just corporeal,
they're just physical.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
And speaking of the mind speak, I'm going to give
all of your listeners an early Christmas present right now.
Nance go check out the Telepathy Tapes podcast. Brian and
I go over this in an episode of that Bigfoot podcast,
and it is literally the only time on air that

(01:07:59):
I have cried. I broke down during this episode and
I cried like a little girl. Yeah, there is proof,
I mean, unindisputable proof that these kids and young adults
with autism that are nonverbal have the ability to mind speak.

(01:08:22):
They set up at y'all, you think I'm crazy, Look
up to lepathy tapes right now. Go to the website,
listen to the website, or listen to the podcast. You
will be amazed. If you don't cry, you don't have
a soul because these kids and these young adults. We
got eighteen year old kids in school that are being

(01:08:47):
taught their colors are colors and the alphabet, when in reality,
they speak three or four different languages that they've never
heard before, right, I mean, their savants. They I can't
get into it. It's way too much to get into
right now. But everyone listening right now, please do yourself

(01:09:10):
a favor and go listen to the telepathy tapes.

Speaker 4 (01:09:14):
Well, I think that we just need to allow that
people have differences in what they believe. Just because, like
I said, mind speaker isn't the first thing I think
of when I think of Bigfoot. Doesn't mean I don't
believe that it can't be real. I hope, I hope
that distinction is understandable. So I think that's a vital thing. Again,

(01:09:35):
anybody flights over stuff like that, and I think.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
A lot of it is just you know, things that
you It's a big ask for a lot of people,
and we get that one hundred percent, get that, but
don't just you know, throw it away, like research it
a little bit before you make up your mind.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
I understand. I know, like a lot of people call
it the woo factor. They won't have anything to do
with it. And that's probably where Matt Moneymaker was when
he was doing vfro O. And maybe it's because that's
just not something he believes in and wants a document
and that's that's okay. But the rest of those reports
are really serious. So I do pay attention to those reports.
I do, so, yeah, yeah, I haven't seen anything. I'm

(01:10:20):
sure there are plenty out there. And I just saw
my husband responded to Robin that Sage was on screen
a few minutes ago. I hate to tell you, Robin,
that was actually Sage's mother, sweet Pea. She's a little
bit pushy, a little bit possessive. So but no, Sage
is still in her tiny velociraptor stage where she just

(01:10:41):
runs around the house tearing stuff up. No, longer looks
cute for pictures. How she's two and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
My daughter will be four.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
Okay, No, Sage is a cat.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Oh okay, I.

Speaker 4 (01:10:58):
Sage is a little bit of a celebrit pretty On
my channel summer twenty twenty two, I had a stray
cat come around. She was obviously pregnant, took pity on her.
I took her in and she gave birth to five kittens.
I got her fixed and kept her. That's the one
that was just trying to butt her head in the screen. Here,
that's sweet Pea. And then I kept one kitten. I

(01:11:20):
found homes for the other four. I had them all
spade and neutered, got all their shots. That was part
of the agreement of getting one of the kittens. We
took care of all of that beforehand because I don't
want them reproducing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
Very cool.

Speaker 4 (01:11:32):
So anyway, Sage was the kitten we kept, and she
is a holy terror. So when it all happened, everybody
got to see all the cute little baby kitten picks,
and Sage was the one we kept, and she became
a little bit of a celebrity because every couple of
weeks I'd put up a new picture of her being cute,
and then at about one and a half years old,

(01:11:52):
it was like she was an angry teenager and just
decided she would anytime she saw me with the picture,
she'd just turned her little button to me, or you know,
just just a really fussy cat. She was sassy, real sassy.
There you go, Sage, just the start in a show

(01:12:13):
when she hangs yeah, and she has she has shown
it before. She used to get on the back of
my chair and look at everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
That's the one that showed up a little while ago.

Speaker 4 (01:12:21):
Oh no, that was her mother. Okay, yeah, Sati get
on the shelves behind me and just hang out like
a like a little vulture. So yeah, see everybody, there's
somebody else loves sweet Pea. Yeah that was sweet Peace,
Sagees mother. Everybody loves Sage. She was such a little celebrity.
So everybody's like, why don't I put up more pictures

(01:12:44):
of her? Because she's a tiny little velociraptor. Right now,
she's in her crappy stage between two to like three
and a half four years old. It's like they're teenagers
and they're sassy and they're crappy, and yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
I mean, I don't know why I heard when when
you said velociraptor stage while I thought of my daughter.

Speaker 4 (01:13:12):
So yeah, sorry, Robin. I will try to get some
good pictures of stage this next week or two. So anyway,
not that everybody cares about my cast, but quite a
few do the shows.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
And isn't that what's awesome about this this community? Nance.
I mean, if you weren't in Bigfoot, if you weren't
interested in this topic, nobody would know about your cats,
nobody would care.

Speaker 4 (01:13:36):
Anybody would know or care when I started this.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
Yeah, you don't, But some of the best people I've
ever met, lifelong friends, have come from Bigfoot, A man
who would have thought that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:50):
Not me when I started. Honest to goodness, I've said
it a million times.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
I just.

Speaker 4 (01:13:58):
I was just a chick with a microphone sitting in
a creepy concrete basement. Just I thought, who's going to
listen to me? And that was Actually that was another
question I have recently gotten, and you and I have
talked about that. We talked about it backstage. Somebody once asked,
They asked me two questions that kind of go together,
which is, how did I learn to do this? Narration,

(01:14:22):
and you know when I think about that. Oh, and
the other thing was, why don't I sound the same
when I'm talking to someone like this as I do
when I'm narrating. And here's a quick fact. No one
taught me to do this. I taught myself to do this.
And I taught myself to do this from reading. And

(01:14:45):
when I read, I have a different voice in my
head when I read a book, and I've always done
that since I was a child, because I didn't read
in a monotone way to myself. I read to entertain myself.
And so.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Stay tuned for more. But the big footber for We'll
be right back.

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
That's how this started coming about. So when I narrate,
I'm reading. And when I do that, my voice changes,
my cadence changes, everything changes. I'm still not doing it.
I can't reproduce it when I'm just talking. If I
am reading something, it changes. That's the best I can
tell you. I did not do this for a living.

(01:15:26):
I was a boring business analyst working Excel formulas all day.
No one taught me to do this. I've been accused
of being somebody Delilah. Somebody says something about it I'm
definitely Delilah. No, I'm not. I don't know who Delilah is,
but Delilah. I'm sorry if people think you're me so.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
And guys are for Nance's audience out there that don't
quite understand where this come from. We were talking about
this literally minutes before we went live tonight, and I
told Nance that just today I was listening to some
of her stuff and it just occurred to me how

(01:16:08):
good she is at this. It is a gift that
she has and I'm envious because I don't have it.
When you, guys, if you will do us the amazing
honor of going over and checking out our channel, you
will see I'm a work in progress. I will get better.
But I'm not the best narrator in the world. But

(01:16:29):
Nance may be because just the inflection and the passion
in her voice, and I just I wanted to know
if she was taught that, if she learned it or what.
That's what brought all of this up. But I cannot
compliment you enough, ma'am.

Speaker 4 (01:16:50):
Well, thank you, and again it I can only tell
you it's just it's how it sounds in my head
when I read something. Because a lot of people have
asked me, Oh, do you have any good tips? Said
a million times. If you write something before you send it,
I don't care if it's a simple email for work.
If you can and you're worried about this, take that

(01:17:11):
email and you read it out loud. Yes, you will
quickly find everywhere that there might be a problem because
your mouth can't fix what you're reading the same way
your brain can. So when I read things to myself,
I'm reading with those kinds of inflections and intonations because
that's how I entertained myself as a child. When you

(01:17:35):
listen to TV, they don't talk like this. When people
do that, you're like they're crappy actors or whatever. So yeah,
I don't know how to tell it better than that.
Nobody taught me how to do this.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
So well, you're very good at it.

Speaker 5 (01:17:52):
Well, I do want to.

Speaker 4 (01:17:53):
Give a plug again. Don't forget everybody. If you have
not already gone over there, you need to look for
the Bigfoot Report. That's what Wayne and Tiffany. You're going
to find them on podcasts as of Monday. Previously they
were Paranormal Odyssey and you could find them on podcasts
everywhere as well as YouTube. So make sure you check

(01:18:15):
them out because he's got two new episodes just out today,
but he's going to be putting out more Bigfoot encounters
every week. And I've said it before, We're always looking
for more Bigfoot encounters. There's never enough. I don't care.
I've had people they go from Cam's channel to Len's channel,

(01:18:35):
to Lyn's daughter in law's channel, over to Steve to
how to Hunt, to my channel, and then they're looking
for you know, they go from channel to channel to
channel because there's never enough in a day for them
to listen to. We can't produce it fast enough. So
my point is Wayne and Tiffany are going to try
to help with that, So definitely go over and check

(01:18:56):
them out. I remember how hard it is to get started,
the more you can, and just give him a listen.
If you like him, you like Tiffany's style, hit that
subscribe button. I can't tell you how hard it is
on YouTube. A like button and a comment go so
far in helping a channel. It's hard to I can't

(01:19:18):
over I can't overstate that enough. So I don't put
out too many pleas for people. But yeah, let's do it.
Let's let's give them a nice, nice launch with the
Bigfoot Report.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
Thank you, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
Yeah, that's very sweet.

Speaker 4 (01:19:35):
Yeah, so all right, well folks, you guys got anything else.
I know, we've already burned up more than an hour,
which surprised.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
It's easy to do, it is, And I.

Speaker 4 (01:19:46):
Hate these live streams. Before my husband can tell you,
I'm like, I don't know what I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
Going to say.

Speaker 4 (01:19:50):
I don't have anything to say, and then I get
on here and it's like I can't shut up.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
So you know, when you're when you're amongst good people
and the conversation is good the time.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
For yeah, yeah, well, well, thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (01:20:06):
Defuss, thank you so.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Much, Thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (01:20:09):
We appreciate every single little, every single like every.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
Single subscribe comment. Like Nan said, it puts us.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
In front of people with the algorithm that maybe haven't
seen us before or even know we exist.

Speaker 4 (01:20:24):
Yeah, and it is hard if you don't feed that algorithm.
I'm I'm also my own algorithm has been quite frankly
down the toilet on and off for the last year
and a half. I don't know what happened. It was
going gangbusters for the first like three and a half years,
and then about a year and a half ago, it
was June. Once, it was last June. All of a sudden,

(01:20:45):
everything took a noseedive and I don't know what or why.
I was getting one thy fifteen hundred subscribers a month.
Views were very, very high. I always been like one
hundred subscribers a month. What did that? And I don't
know why because everyone always asks. I only bring that up,
not like I'm complaining. I'm not. I know YouTube readjusts

(01:21:06):
itself all the time, and the algorithm goes on what
people are listening to. I understand that, but I'm just
saying the algorithm is so temperamental sometimes it's hard to
when you're starting out, it's really hard. That's why I
just want people to understand how much a simple hit
the like button and make a comment. What it can

(01:21:29):
do for channels when they're trying to launch is astronomical.
It can't be overstated. So thank you everyone for helping
Wayne and Tiffany. I hope that we can get them
launch in a really good way.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
Thank you so much, guys. We really appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:46):
When somebody just said, hang on, please lift your channel
so I can find them it's.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Is there any way you can I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
You know what, let me I'll just talk about Let
me go to YouTube and I can link it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Hold on just a second.

Speaker 4 (01:22:10):
Okay, okay, I was gonna see if I could pull
it up and maybe share my screen.

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
Okay, yeah, that'd be cool. Go down to present. Yeah,
hang on, you gotta open another screen though. Yep, we
had this trouble before.

Speaker 4 (01:22:30):
Now I'm not streamyard savvy. I've got to learn because
I have people saying I really wish you'd do a
live stream more often. M okay, so let me see.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
We're going a lot of people in here watching you.

Speaker 4 (01:22:42):
Let me open that tab here.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
But there we are.

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
Okay, so this is what you're looking for. You're looking
for the Bigfoot Report. That's what it's gonna look like.
And you can see his, uh, the nice cool little
logo with a little sasquatch sitting there with his little
bitty laptop.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
He's going an orange for the balls, right.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (01:23:05):
Yeah. So I don't know where you were before, Wayne,
but you're at if I can see here, I'm half
blind to twy eighty.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
That's where we were when we started.

Speaker 4 (01:23:19):
Okay, well, it'll change soon.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
I hope, I hope so well, I know we've already
added like five or six.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:23:28):
Excellent. Well all right, everybody, so take note and give
them a nice welcome. Well, oh, I see somebody says
that's for Wayne. Let's see here it is, that's for Wayne.
What about Tiffany. Tiffany actually helps Wayne on this. I'm
gonna let you guys speak. You guys can tell it

(01:23:49):
better than me.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
This is our show. Yeah, this report is Tiffany and myself.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
Yeah, this is ours. You're gonna hear me narrating.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
If you look in the in the playlist right there,
there's several we do missing person reports. There's a segment
in there with spooky Sundays. When we were Paranormal Odyssey,
Steele I would go in and narrate a spooky story
and it was released every Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
All of that is in our playlists. Again.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
We have our live shows every Tuesday evening at seven
pm Eastern, every Saturday at ten pm Eastern.

Speaker 3 (01:24:24):
This is a combined thing. So you'll hear me reading
and you will.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
Hear Wayne reading in these newer episodes that he put
up today.

Speaker 4 (01:24:34):
Yeah, there's the two new episodes. So when you see
that orange background with the Bigfoot Report, that's yeah, those
are the new ones.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
Those Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
And if you guys are going to be in Tennessee
in July for the Smoking Mountain Big Book Conference, we
are going to be there as well.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
Would love to meet you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
Please come hang out with us.

Speaker 4 (01:24:58):
Sounds like a plan, All right, folks. Well, I think
we've about covered it. Does anyone else have anything else?
I feel like I'm holding Tiffany and Wayne hostage here tonight.
You're good? All right? Well, I think we're gonna go
ahead and call it for tonight. I appreciate everyone for

(01:25:20):
showing up. I really do, because I've said it a
million times. This channel is nothing without all of you
out there. So thank you, my dear Sasquad. So thank
you Wayne, thank you Tiffany. I appreciate that you guys
took the time to come. Yeah, all right, everyone, I
have a good night. I will see all the SAS

(01:25:40):
Squad again on Tuesday. Good night, everyone, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
I Hey, everybody, thank you so much for checking out
this episode of The Bigfoot Report. We appreciate everything that
you guys do. All of the continued support means the
world to us. If you don't mind, if you would
take just a second go rate and review the show

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wherever it is you get your podcasts. We would greatly
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thank you guys for everything that you do. We love you,
We thank you. We'll talk again soon.

Speaker 6 (01:27:03):
Through the woods, the pine trees, sway, shadows long at
end of day, weekfoots call on the whispering breathe, Secrets
kept by ancient trees, dog Man House beneath the moon

(01:27:27):
echoes in the silent dune.

Speaker 4 (01:27:32):
Tracks.

Speaker 6 (01:27:32):
We five, but answers none.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
A hunt for truth. That's just begune.

Speaker 6 (01:27:49):
We're searching past the fire light. Four creatures hidden our
sight in the forest hard, where shadows lay seeking. See
Chrits in the twilight great through the fog, a shape

(01:28:14):
did gly skin walker eyes wide, Legends of Oh, we
chase to night in the dark.

Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
Our lanterns bright.

Speaker 6 (01:28:32):
By the creek, quail water spill whispers wry, the windsow chill,
full of steep man tails on toll in this land,
the myths of O. We're searching past the fire light,

(01:29:04):
full creatures hidden out of sight in the forest heart,
where shadows lay seeking. See Chriss in the twilight break

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