TBR EP:330 Sasquatch in Radium!

On this episode of The Bigfoot Report Tiffany had Kyle DeChene on for a very interesting conversation. Kyle does a lot of his bigfoot research in Radium Canada. Radium is believed by some to be a very active area. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
And these people that claim or carry themselves without actually
claiming to be an expert, a bigfoot expert. I mean,
come on, what the hell is a bigfoot expert? There
is no such thing as an expert when it comes
to bigfoot.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
They know in an instant that you were in the woods.
There is no hiding from them, There is no being
quiet or.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Sneaking up on them. As soon as you walk in
the woods, you walk.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
In their front door, thinking that you are going to
surprise them.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
You're only kidding yourself.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
We have got to get it out of our heads
that anecdotal evidence is not evidence. The best way, in
my opinion, that we have to learn about these creatures
right now is by listening to and talking to those
that have experiperience them, those who have witnessed them and
experienced them in their own environment.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
We do what we do to try to bring a
lin as to this topic, to be an open door
for somebody to walk through, to be able to share
their story, a listening here, a support hold for those
who have held their own encounters with that which is
not supposed to ems.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
We've got to open our eyes people, there is something
out there. All of these thousands of people that have
seen something. They're not all aligned, they're not all crazy.
There are some very reputable, good people out there that
have seen something.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
What's up, Kyle, how's it going? It is going.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
I just want to say thank you first off for
being here, and your dad's here there he is, yep,
so but yeah, thanks for coming and for sharing everything
with us.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
So that's what I'm here for.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, well, I mean we're we're down for the bigfoot stuff.
So let's get into it. How did how did you
become engulfed in this.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
In this world?

Speaker 4 (02:28):
So? I think it kind of started off really when
I was young, you know, watching like Monster Quest and
stuff like that on TV. Firstly following you know, Jeff
Melodrum and all his studies, and eventually getting into you know,
just kind of whatever I could podcasts and shows, and
you know, Finding Bigfoot came out, which I don't want

(02:50):
to give them too much light, but you know, that
was that was big because the bigfoot community wasn't at
least that big in my life. And when that show
came out that kind of like kickstarted it that there
was actually some sort of way to get into it
that kind of level, you know. So that's kind of
really what kicked it off. Right When I was about

(03:11):
seventeen or eighteen, my dad and I went on a
hunting trip up in the Adirondacks and that was my
first actual encounter with a sasquatch, and ever since then
I got even further into it. I ended up reaching
out to Todd Standing and he called me. Got a
phone call from Todd's Standing, so him and I ended

(03:33):
up becoming very close friends. I went up to Radium.
It's been a week up there, had an amazing time,
had a couple of sightings in the past few years
since I've been there, and it's kind of turned out
to where now I'm doing expeditions with people. Brian king
Sharp from Sasquatch Odyssey was actually the first person that

(03:55):
I've took have taken out there and guided in that
research area, and it turned out amazing. I had a
great time. It was awesome to get to know him
on a personal level, and also just kind of show
him the things that I had been telling him about
and telling the world about on my podcast and just
proving to him, hey, you know this isn't all bowl,

(04:17):
you know, like this actually had him do a tree
break and he's got the video of it somewhere. I
recorded him doing it, but I kind of showed him
what it takes to do a tree break and to
show him that it's not necessarily a natural thing in
whatever state that we find them in. So that was
big at least for me to just kind of get
that out there, and just to just to be out

(04:41):
in nature is huge, you know, just getting out there,
putting your hands in the water, you know, breathing that
fresh air in That's that's what's really about the big
Foot come with it. So that's what I'm about. Most
people that are in it the same reasons. You know,

(05:01):
we just kind of get to come and share our experiences,
compare what we have and the experiences that we have,
and maybe drop a conclusion from it, right And I'm.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
So glad that there's so many people who.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Shy away from sharing it because of all the you know,
the toxicity that comes or the you're full of s hit.
This is not really you know, this is all in
your head and it just it really hinders everything.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
One hundred percent. But I mean, if if you look
at it from the opposite side, where you have PhDs
involved in.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
It, well, he was having issues with his connection, so
he's probably scrambling right now. He's probably like, oh my god,
Oh I told him. We were sitting in the back
and I told him. He said, he said, I don't.
I don't have very good connection right now. So he

(06:07):
had moved his phone because oh, there he is.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Hold on, we might be getting him back.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
But he had moved his phone from where he had
it over to the window because he's working off of
his hot spot.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
So there you are?

Speaker 4 (06:25):
Are you there all right about that? Can you hear me?

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yep? Can you hear me?

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah? I can hear you. Yeah, Like I was saying,
so like if you look at Jeff Meldrium, for instance,
I mean, he his whole life is on the line
for when it comes to Bigfoot, and he dedicated his
life to it. And I think he's got a couple
of sons now that are involved in are getting involved
in it from from what I understand. So that's huge.
I mean, you're talking about people who are are are

(06:57):
really putting their life on the line over something that
doesn't exist to some people, you know, yes, So I
think that just kind of goes to show that the
toxicity in the Bigfoot community is really just from people
who don't want to understand and don't want to learn
about it.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yeah, that's very well put.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
They don't want to take the time to do their
own research. They don't take the time to go out
into the woods to look and see and verify for
themselves what it is. They hear everybody on podcasts talk about.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
Yep, they just slam it's I think a lot of
it too is nowadays. I mean you can you can download,
you know, podcasts and listen to them in the car
and stuff like that. So you've you've gained a lot
of accessibility to the Bigfoot community, you know, and now
that a lot of a lot more people can be
involved in it, a lot more people can listen in

(07:52):
and hear the stories. I think they're the kind of
people that are like, oh, you know that there's no
way that's happened. I've been to woods for fifty years
and never heard of a branch break or anything like that,
and you know, it happens to it does. I can
imagine a lot of people, you know, and it's I
can't necessarily blame them for for questioning it. You know,

(08:13):
it's good that they're questioning it, but maybe still having
an open mind would probably help those people too, at
least at least help the bigfoot community, right well.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Carrying some form of skepticism is healthy. I mean, you
can't believe everything every jo Shmo tells you exactly, so
having that level of skepticism is healthy to do. Would
you mind telling us about your first big find encounter? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Absolutely, Yeah. Back in I'm not sure what sure was.
H was eighteen Somewhere around eighteen. My dad and I
went on on that hunting trip in the Adirondecks. We
ended up spending a couple of nights out there, so
like the last night we were there, we ended up

(09:04):
kind of just trying to do like a little bit
of a night hunt, like just before dusk or just
before dark. So we got out there, we separated, and
I found a spot off the trail that was kind
of nice and open. It was kind of like a
circle of the trees. I sat on the edge of
it hoping because there was deer trails. There's freshnell on
the ground maybe an inch or two, and there was

(09:25):
fresh deer sign kind of going through there. So I
figured I'd stay here and wait till it gets dark,
and then I head back to the trail because it
was pretty much right behind me, maybe twenty five thirty yards,
and my dad continued down the trail. I'm assuming to
kind of cut in a little bit further and maybe
scare something up towards me. I'm not sure where he went. Anyway,

(09:46):
it was about twenty five to thirty minutes later, and
I'm sitting there. Nothing's moving, no sound, there's no birds.
It's just starting to get dark. And on the other
side of the trees, on the other side of the clearing,
it just started. I just started hearing branches break and
it started getting progressively louder, which caused me to think

(10:08):
that something was kind of coming through the woods, and
something big coming through the woods, like a bear that around
ex are known for the bears. I thought something was
coming in towards the clearing where I was, so I
freaked out a little bit, and I picked up my
gun and I'm looking kind of through my scope waiting
for something to pop through the branches of the trees.
Nothing ever came through the trees. I never saw anything.

(10:29):
The only thing I heard were big branches and like
it sounded like trees being smashed apart and broken apart,
boom bang, smash, and it was sounded like it was
right there. So I'm starting to shake because I'm like, Okay,
any second now, something huge is gonna come through that tree,
or maybe it's like moose fighting or something like that.
But I didn't hear any like knocking, like like horns

(10:50):
hitting each other or anything like that, So I'm starting
to think, like, what is that? What's making that noise?
Or you know, I don't hear any heavy breathing. I
don't hear any grunting. I don't hear any footfalls. What
could that be? What's going on over there? And then
I heard the whoosh bang smash, whoosh bang, and I
was like, that's trees or branches being swung through the air.

(11:14):
There's no wind or nothing and hitting whatever it's hitting
and breaking apart. And then I go, oh, I think
I know what that is, but I'm too afraid to
go over there and find out. And right about that point,
my dad came running in behind me and he's looking
at me and I'm ghost white, and he's like, what's that?
What's going on? I'm like, I don't know, I don't

(11:35):
know what's going on? And it stopped and never saw anything.
We never heard anything moore after that, so we just
just decided to leave and we headed home. I'm pretty
sure that night and we never talked to My dad
and I are very very close. I've said this a
lot in my podcasts. He's, you know, the person that
I can go to for anything, any reason. If I

(11:55):
have any problems in life, I can just ask him
and he'll give me a straight shot answer. And him
and I have always been super super close like that.
We didn't talk about it, which is weird, you know,
we just we never did. A couple of years later,
I sat down and I watched Todd Standing's documentary Finding Bigfoot,

(12:15):
and uh, I watched the whole It was like three hours.
I watched the whole thing. My dad got home from
work and I was like, dad watched this, so he
sat down. I rewatched it again with my dad and
when it was over, I looked at him, like you
remember that time of the add around decks and he's like,
you don't have to say anymore. I know what you're
talking about, and I think so too. Yes, all right,
fair enough, I guess I guess that was the first
the first encounter, and where I'm from, h up in

(12:38):
the Catskills in New York, there's not much of that
stuff going on. You hear some old old stories back
in the day, but there's really no sign or anything
like that. So it was it was close to home
for me, being that I was like into the books
and into the into the shows and into the movies
and stuff like that, but not like not to where
I could just go out in my backyard and learn

(13:00):
about it and we'll try to invoke something like that.
So unfortunately I had to travel a little bit to
get my other encounters to happen, but they were well
worth the flight.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Well that's that's awesome, and let's let's get into some
of these pictures because I'll I'll throw one up here
and you just get into it, all right.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
That one's pretty interesting.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
When you sent me that one and I looked at
him last night, I was like, I mean.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Compared to you, how how tall are you? Just to
give me some perception.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
So that's not me. I'm five eight, five nine. That's
Todd standing. He's six one or six to two in
that picture. And that was actually in New York while
we were filming the next documentary series for Finding Bigfoot.
I I ended up reaching out to him, like I said,
and he called me back and he flew out to

(14:01):
New York and slept on my couch. I took him
to the exact spot where I had that encounter with
my dad and showed him the area and everything like that.
And that was one of the tree breaks we found
on right next to the trail that is I think
fourteen feet close to fourteen feet up in the air.
And there's one that's directly on the other side of

(14:23):
the trail right to my back that's ten feet off
the trail, same as this one, but it's pointed the
opposite direction, but it's the same exact height. And as
you can see, there's no dead fall. There's a dead
fall over on the side, but that's a way older tree.
There's nothing around it, there's nothing that fell on it.
It's just laid down under the grass or into the weeds.

(14:43):
And same with the one on the other side. So
we found that very very interesting, especially right next to
a trail. It's a very popular hiking trail, and it's
wild to think that people just walk right past those
things and never really question it, So I just wanted
to kind of throw that in there for the pictures.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Well, and I think it's because they're either not open
to the subject or they're just.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Not you know, privy to all the conversation.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
But I mean, how tall do you think if you're
counting in the height, let's say, and then you have
to factor in the arm reach, how tall do you
think something would have to.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Be to be able to do that. If that's fourteen feet,
that'd be pretty.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
Dam Yeah, we're talking nine or ten feet and four
feet of arm length at that point, you know to
grab above to have a leverage to pull it down
and hold it in a curve. Because tree breaks, there's
a certain way you have to break a tree in
order for it to break like that. Understand that there's
no marks on that tree, there's no pressure points, there's

(15:54):
no like I said, there's no dead fall on it.
The split, there's no splintering up top. That means it's
a pressure break. So something had to have pressed on
both sides but also held in the middle to allow
it to fracture without splitting apart like a like a
barber chair. Basically, that's also most of the tree breaks
that we do find, and we're talking about now Alabama,

(16:17):
in Canada and New York and Florida. The tree breaks
they're broken that certain way and there's like hinge meat
left basically where there's still you know, half an inch
of wood that's still holding together. Most of the time
if they barber chare apart, they just split or they
just fall off or anything like that. This is very
specifically broken that way to stay there. There's actually a

(16:38):
tree break in Radium right next to our spot or
camp spot. I think it's like eight or ten years old,
and it like finally just kind of broke off the
top last year or the year before. So it's it's
wild to think that it can last that long. But
there's no real natural way for it to happen like that.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Because it was that tree dead or is that.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
No, No, that was life. So you can, yeah, the
where the top goes into the ground where the like
the leaves were and still kind of are dead hanging
on to the branches, which would indicate that that was
alive when it fell.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Potentially that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Another one that you sent me and I found interesting
because this one looks like it kind of is twisted,
Is that right?

Speaker 4 (17:38):
Yeah, So that is specifically what I'm talking about with
the tree breaks. As you can see, it's a very
very clean break. It's actually not twisted. I think more
so when it landed, it kind of twisted a little
bit from the top and that's what's given it that.
But if you look really closely at this picture, this
is what really boggles my mind about tree breaks and

(17:59):
gives me such a hard time. Is if you look
in the middle of that tree break, there's a little
stub sticking out, And if you look around the top
and around like the bottom part, like really close, the
bark is perfect. There's no finger marks, there's no rubbed bark,
there's no there's nothing. It looks like it just snapped
like that. And you can ask Brian when he did

(18:22):
his tree break how much pressure and how much weight
he had to put on that in order for it
to break. And it was a smaller tree than this, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
I remember seeing that video and it was smaller and
circumference than that one.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
Right. So at some point, if you grab it very
close and try to put like your knee on it
or something like that, you try to break it, you're
gonna leave marks, whether it's gloves or a machine or
you know, your boot, whatever the case, that you're gonna
scratch the bark off in some aspect or peel it off.
And there's none of that here. And you can see,
like I said, right in the middle of the break
where that little stub sticks out, there's no How do

(18:59):
you describe how do you explain that?

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Right?

Speaker 3 (19:02):
How do you explain that?

Speaker 4 (19:04):
You know that there's no branches broken leading up to
the break, there's no branches broken leading down to the break,
which would indicate that nothing slid down over top of it,
or there's no animal like like a moose or mule
deer that came and rubbed down that tree and caused
it to break with its with its antlers, because there's
no rub marks on it. Right, So it's I don't

(19:27):
understand it, but that's what we happen to see all
over the place in our research areas. I don't really
have a way of discrib honestly, I have no idea
how they do it. I just find it absolutely fascinating.
That's a lot, yeah, yeah. How many people have you
talked to you on the show that have talked about

(19:47):
tree breaks.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Stay tuned for more, but that they flit report. We'll
be right back.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
O gazillion I've been on this show.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yes, here a gazillion, right, yeah, all right.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
I think there's a couple more pictures of some tree
breaks in here.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
It is mm hmm, this one.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
Yes, that one. That's another one that I really wanted
to include too, because as you can see, there's no
red marks on it from antlers, there's no remarks on
it from anything, No truck's driving by, it's off, it's
off in the woods. There's no trails right next to it,
anything like that. Again, a relatively clean break. It's a
really young tree. It's very live because you can see

(20:35):
it's only a couple of days old at this point maybe.
And again if you zoom in, there's branches very very
close to the breaking point, and the bark isn't bothered whatsoever.
So if you try to grab it up top and
pull down, you're gonna splinter the wood, which means that's
a pressure break, which means you'd have to have your

(20:56):
hands in it or whatever you were using to break
that in a very speci location in order to break
it like that. And as you can see, there's some
marks on it. So yeah, here I am.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
And yeah, exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
So why, in your opinion, Kyle, do you think they
do that.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
That's a that's gonna be a long answer. So the
only thing that I can deduce from it is that
it's very important, regardless of what it is or what
it means, because they're the masters of the wilderness. They
they live in the woods, They live and breathe the
outdoors and the wilderness. Right. So if they're so intune

(21:40):
and so in depth and so in love and they
live out there for that reason, because they're so close
with nature, why would you go out of your way
to kill a tree or do damage to nature in
that way? So it's specific in maybe a way that
it means something, but it's what it means is I'm
not sure whether it's pointing to something or a trail

(22:05):
or where people are, or it's don't come past here.
I don't know, but it's significant whatever it is and
whatever it means, right.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
It's and it's and I say it all the time,
but it's all up for speculation because nobody knows.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
But I ask because my husband had.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
An encounter in twenty twenty one here on our property,
not saying one hundred percent was a big foot. Okay,
but we've we've just ruled everything else out. But I'm
asking because we have we live on a downslope on
a mountain, so at the bottom of our yard we
have a strip that I call the Amazon Jungle. And

(22:50):
at that time we were I went out to sit
on the deck and I had noticed that you could
see the very bottom of our yard, and during the
summer you can't because it's all grown up in that area.
So I had went down there because I was like,
I shouldn't be able to see this, And so when
I walked down there to look at it closer, it

(23:11):
was like near the fence, which is where his encounter happened.
It was like this area of just push down, you know,
just grass and you know, weeds and all this stuff.
But we had those really tall, like milk plants, and
they were snapped over.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
In half in that one area, all of them.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
The rest of that whole strip was untouched, but those
milk weeds were like completely been over in half, pointing
to our creek that's across the street. So I'm always
just curious trying to get others opinions on what that
you know, could be.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
That. So typically I try to go into things with
an open mine eye, obviously, but more so of like, Okay,
what's the practical probable reason for this to be? And
my first initial thought would be, Oh, it's probably, you know,
like a betting area for deer or for bear or
something like that. I don't know where you live, but regardless,

(24:15):
that's what I would think. But the milk weeds bent
over and yeah, pointing in the same direction towards the yes,
that that's weird and.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
That's where Yeah, that's where we were.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Like, this doesn't make any sense whatsoever because if you
walk over just a little ways, you're at our chain
link fence, and that's where he was standing, you know,
when it huffed or gruffed at him and took off.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
It's not that far away.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
So I'm like, are you stepping over our chain link
fence and are you in our hard and if so,
how come there's no footprints?

Speaker 4 (24:53):
But yeah, have you had anything happen since?

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Not since twenty twenty one, had some you know, wild
things happen within that time period, but nothing nothing since?

Speaker 4 (25:10):
So gotcha?

Speaker 2 (25:11):
I don't know it's it's all very strange. But speaking
of footprints, let's talk.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
About that one.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Yes, yes, so this is in New York. Another amazing
thing that I found there. I love finding bidfoot tracks.
It's like my favorite thing to do in radium. There's
so many of them. I spend days and days just
showing people the tracks and explaining to them how it works.
But that's my foot for comparison. I wear size ten

(25:40):
and I had put all my weight in that footprint
before I took that picture. And as you can see,
my heel sunk in maybe about half the depth of
that track. Yeah, and you can if you look a
little bit more like right towards the top of that picture,
that's actually where the toes are. So it's a lot
more significant than you would, you know, see if you're

(26:03):
just kind of looked at it quick. But that's a
very very deep print. And when you step in it,
it's solid, there's no push on it, there's no a
little bit of sponge left in it. It broke through
the moss and crushed it all completely down to the ground.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Well, and that's saying a lot because moss is hard to.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
Right, right, And I'm not a big guy. I'm like
one thirty one forty with you know, clothes on and stuff.
But if I jump on it and I can't get
it to even show a track or let alone rip
the moss, something very very heavy step there, I guess it.
You know. It's it's one of those things where impressions

(26:44):
are only impressions, you know. I can't say that this
is for sure a sasquatch footprint, because I'm not going
to be that guy. But I find it very interesting
that there's so much weight in a certain position to
make that track, and I couldn't, I couldn't fake it so.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Right right when it looks like it's a right foot
and it does look like you can see the big
toe up there. Yeah, So I mean I'm seeing I'm
seeing what you're seeing.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
Yeah. And it's a very narrow track too, which will
lead into the next kind of part with this these
pictures that I've sent to you, what I've noticed and
what I've learned from Todd Standing is there is kind
of a way to tell the differences between, like I
guess gender. When it comes to male female tracks, the

(27:34):
female tracks seem to be more slender and the male
tracks seem to have a narrow heel and then widen
out quite a bit at the top where the toes are.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
Right.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
And we've been able to deduce that with the sightings
we've had, the people we've had around who just know
that troupe specifically, and then we go back in there
the next day and we find, you know, impressions that
go along. Okay, we think it was this being or
this specific sasquatch, and these are the tracks that we

(28:08):
see whenever they or she or here is around. And
this is a new one because we know this area.
So this is clearly done, you know, the night before.
Therefore it's her track or.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Their track, right, So, speaking of the narrowness of it,
would you be referring to this picture maybe.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
A way for it to load?

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
You gotta love the connection issues. Is it just on
your side you're not seeing.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
Yeah, I'm just not seeing it. I think I know
which one you're talking about though.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
It's the one where your hands in it.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So that another one, very deep impression,
very solid step in it to try to, you know,
feel the depth on it. There's no give whatsoever. Is
straight solid soil on Herneth it again, I stepped next
to it to try, yes, to try to get that
pack down, and I couldn't do it. You can see
the toe rips out too in that one, And I mean,

(29:11):
I don't know how to gauge my hand size. I
just kind of did that because I didn't have anything
else right but that that was in New York. Also
another amazing impression that I showed to a lot of people,
and that again is right off of the trail. It
was literally we looked over and there's an oppression right
there on the bank. It was you couldn't ask for

(29:31):
a more clear one or have to go hunting for
a track. It was right there.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
That's and see if people would just get out there,
if they would get out there first okay, and then second,
if they would take their nose out of their phone,
because you see that, so.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
I mean you're in nature, You're you're like, I mean,
put your phone down. They would see that.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
The problem, the problem that I have with tracks in
all honesty, though, is I find them in places like that.
There's a lot of like spagnum moss or just moss
in general, and you can't cast them. There's no way
to cast them because to cast material just runs out
underneath in the moss. So like anytime I find really
good tracks, it's always in the in the moss, never

(30:18):
anywhere else. That's one of my goals is I really
want to cast my own track that I found. But
apparently it's not my time yet, so we'll just give
it a couple more years. Hopefully.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
I'm sure it'll come around. I'm sure it will.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna throw this picture up here,
and I'm not sure if you're gonna be able to
see it, but it is the picture you sent me
with the mountain in the back. It's it's like a postcard.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Oh yeah, yeah, that that's one of the pictures I
included strictly just to yeah, look how beautiful that is.
That's one of the views going up to the Upper
Radium site where Todd and survivor man fill on the
top of the head of the Sasquatch. That's that trail
to get up to that spot and you look back

(31:04):
and that's what you see. If that doesn't get you
out and want to make you want to get out
there in nature and just be out there and enjoy
the views. And I don't know what will because that's
the most spectacular view I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yeah, when you sent it, I was like, God, that
that would make such a great postcard.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's actually one of the backgrounds
in my phone, is that.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, well that's a good one to have as your background.
And you just you look at this and you're like,
there is so much acreage where I mean, anything, anything,
even if it's not bigfoot, could be right.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Yeah, absolutely, Let's see if I can.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yes, Oh, I showed that one, all right, so this
one and now I'm gonna can you see this one?

Speaker 4 (31:56):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Okay, this one.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
When I look it, I went back to Tuesday Show
because they had something so similar to this and a
picture that they had sent. Yes, So where was this
picture taken? What's kind of the story behind that?

Speaker 4 (32:14):
So this is also in radium technically not really, it's
like just on the outskirts of our research area. I
think the story behind it is we have a very
a very awesome guy who uh who comes out with
us pretty much every year. He's one of our our
our group, you know, people that everybody knows who was

(32:37):
in the group knows this person, very very wonderful human.
I've gotten the pleasure to talk to him on the
phone a few times, and I think I did a
show with him. But they just wanted to go and explore,
because when nothing's happening out there, you just kind of
want to go and see see the sites and drive
around and do all this other stuff. So they picked
a logging road to drive up. And when they came

(32:59):
up this back when that we've never gone up before,
they stopped because they saw something and they walked up
into the woods and they found this and it was
just one of those like I want to go up
there type feelings. It wasn't really like a sad thing
like hey, I want to go up this trail and
walk in. It was just they were driving and they go,
something's up there, and they found that, and there's actually

(33:22):
a lot of other structures up there. I actually took
Brian there on his expedition, and this was I think
the third or the fourth day of his expedition, so
he had already seen everything going on in Radium and
we brought him to this site, which was you know,
five ten miles away at that point, and he was like, well,

(33:44):
I that was actually one of the first times I
saw it. I was there the week prior, so I
went to see it because I need to know where
it was to Tick Brian. But it's absolutely incredible, and
standing in the middle of that, it's still ten twelve
feet high at the peak. It's just it's absolutely spectacular.
How they did that, I don't know how they do it.
And those are those aren't small either. I mean they

(34:05):
look kind of small in the picture. I think there's
still three or four inches on the small side. But
they're also like forty feet long fifty feet long, right,
And as you can see in that picture, I don't
know how you would take a forty foot long pole
and be able to maneuver it through all those other
trees to stick it up into that specific spot without

(34:29):
breaking it or even getting it there, you know what
I'm saying, Right, that's a long piece of wood to
try to put in a specific spot with all these
other trees around you without breaking any other trees by
the way, and also obviously some wind damage because all
of those other trees that have been toppled over and
it'd be in a.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Big mess right well, And that's you know, when you
have several trees like that, and they're that circumference and
especially the length.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yeah, it would be I just wish we could talk
to them and say, what does this mean? We see
these things all.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
The time, you know, whether whether you're thinking, well, this
is bus it's a human that did this, or it's
what you know, you're in the line of thinking that
we do. There has to be you know, something really tall,
really strong, with thumbs in the woods making I mean,
it's yeah, I just want to know what it's for.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
There has to be some kind of reason.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
We need a Rosetta stone, for sure.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
We do.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah, and we had I think it was Mike Miller
was talking about Ellis was trying to do something like
the Rossetto stone with all the with all the sounds
and stuff that he's getting. So it's I don't know,
it's just really fascinating. Oh yeah, thing that you see

(35:48):
all the time. Okay, can you see this picture?

Speaker 4 (35:52):
Not yet?

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Okay, so there we go.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Okay, Now, I don't remember if that one was in
Radium or New York, but a very awesome picture of
an impression appears to be you know, a thinner track,
but again in a really great location. You can see
it clear as day, at least for me, because I

(36:17):
love looking for tracks. It's one of my favorite things
to do. But just to kind of show what they
look like and what I happen to find. And as
you can tell, I can't cast that thing. So it's
kind of like a little bit of a he he
guess what. I'm gonna leave you this impression. You're gonna
find it, but you're not gonna be able to do
anything but take a picture of it.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
You ain't gonna be captured me with it, buddy.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Mm.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
It's like a game. There are always ten steps ahead.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Yes, and we hear that too, always always.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
There's so much smarter than we are. It's baffling. So
this is another I think this is the last picture
you sent me. It's it's another tree break.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
Can you see that?

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Yeah, yeah, that's in radium. I remember that. Another great exploit.
Well not, I guess not. Explanation example of I don't
know how they do tree breaks again. It's a very
very young tree that breaks only maybe a couple of

(37:22):
days old, cup maybe a week old. It is Barber
shared a little bit on the top. You can see
where it kind of split off in half. But again,
there's no pressure marks on it. There's no ways to
kind of show how it was broken or why it
was broken. It's pointed up the trail. I don't know.
It just it just absolutely boggles my mind how they

(37:44):
do it, and I'd love to know why, But I
guess we still haven't found that Rosetta stone, you know.
And it's just one of the things. It's like you
said earlier, it's up to kind of how we want
to see it and how we want to or what
we want to believe it means, right, and maybe it
means a lot of things. Maybe it's not just one

(38:05):
specific thing. Maybe it's hey, there's water here, or there's
people over there. It's just maybe it's just kind of
an arrow like warning. Yeah, maybe that's all it is,
you know, And maybe that's important enough to be able
to kill a tree right.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
To them, to them, Yeah, yeah, because I mean again,
it's like you said, why would they you know, if
they're protecting and all this other stuff.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Why But yeah, that makes that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
If it mattered all that much, or it didn't matter
all that much, why not break a dead tree?

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Uh huh?

Speaker 4 (38:42):
You know, why does it have to be alive. So
there there's significance in it. It's just finding the significance,
right do.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
You think And this just came to my head and
I'm probably gonna sound like an absolute dufaist, but I'm
good with that too. So there we'll get into trees
for like grubs and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Do you think that they would do that.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
I've never seen it like happen like that. I guess
there's always a possibility of it. But then again, on
live trees that don't have any sort of sustenance for
a bear, why is the bear going to waste its
energy on doing something like that for little to know nothing. Yeah, food,

(39:34):
I could see maybe if it was like a bigger
tree and it was dead and you're gonna see claw
marks up and down that tree all the time. You're
gonna see where they're trying to push the tree over right,
and you're gonna see where they've ripped the tree apart
on the ground and flipped rocks over in the area
and stuff like that. For that, I mean, there are
flipped over rocks on that trail specifically, but there's no

(39:57):
reason for a bear to do that. And even then,
if if the bear did that. I don't want to
know how he did it, because.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Stay tuned for more. But the Bigfoot were for We'll
be right back.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
There's no teeth marks on it, right, there's no scratch marks,
there's no claw marks on it.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Well, and I was just thinking along lines of you know,
do you think bigfoot would get into trees to eat
things that were living in them?

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Sorry I took that. I mean I didn't see why not.
It's a great hiding spot because if you get up
in the canopy, nobody's gonna go up there and look
for you cover from overhead. Yeah, I don't see why not.
I mean maybe they go after beehives or stuff like
that too, So is that possibility?

Speaker 2 (40:43):
So what are what are what are some of the
most crazy encounters you've had with Todd?

Speaker 4 (40:55):
One stands out specifically, and it wasn't even really that crazy,
It's just okay. So I spent a lot of time
up and radio by myself. Months now, I've been completely
by myself, let alone with other people and on on
you know, research with Todd and our other people are

(41:17):
a group, and I've never told any of them that
I wanted a rock thrown at me. Nobody ever knew that.
I've never had it happen to me before, and like
I said, I never never said anything to anybody. I've
been out there that whole time by myself. I've gone
out into bear Alley by myself. Bears don't really come
around me, which is a great thing because I don't

(41:37):
want eithers around me. But specifically Todd was out there
with me. It was just him and I. I actually
I think Ashley might have been out there too, which
she was doing something else. Early in the morning. We
got up and he was kind of feeling some weird
things going on in his head, and I just kind
of wanted to go find some berries because I really
love I forget the name of them. There's a certain

(42:01):
type of berry out there. Absolutely love those berries, bunch berries,
and I wanted to go find him for breakfast. Right,
So we go out of camp and I'm like, I
just wanted to go this way, and He's like, yeah,
I kind of feel that too. So we walk over
that way and we just bushwhack in and right in
front of me there is probably two hundred and three
hundred bunch berries on the ground. I was like, oh

(42:21):
my god, perfect this is what I was looking for.
So I'd get down on the ground and I'm eating
all picking all these bunch berries everything like that. Todd
is ahead of me to my left a little bit,
probably about ten fifteen feet, and he's kneeling down. I
don't know what he's doing. I'm not really paying attention.
I'm happy with my bunch berries, so you know, I'm
just happy as can be eaten. And over on the

(42:42):
other side of us, to the right of us is
actually the National Forest boundary for BAMF. It's right there,
maybe fifty sixty yards away, and we don't really go
over there. Well now we do because we found structure
over there, but we never really used to go over there.
That was kind of out of our aspect because we
never really had anything happened over there. So I'm sitting

(43:02):
there eating bunch berries and Todd just kind of murmurs
watch this, and I look at him, like what, And
all of a sudden, a rock comes out of nowhere
over on the boundary side and flies. You can hear
it hitting the branches, hitting the tree branches and the
leaves and stuff, and just PLoP right between us and
rolls up the bank. And I looked at him like,

(43:24):
did you just say watch this? He's like, I don't
know where that came from. I just said it, like,
don't really know. I was like, oh my god, Okay,
that's crazy. I wanted a rock thrown at me. He's like,
I'm like, yeah, I never told anybody. So I found
the rock. It's actually in in the camper. I left
it there. But it was a perfect, perfect throwing rock too.

(43:48):
That was That was really cool. That was one of
those like okay, that was that was for me. That
was one hundred percent for me. But I can't be
I can't be more happy about that.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
So do they do you guys experience like the smells
and everything like that that you hear about what is it?
And and people struggle trying to describe the smell and
I get it, what what what is that for you?

Speaker 3 (44:17):
As far as the smell goes.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
So for me, it's smelled a lot like it's smelled
a lot like propine, just that kind of like musky eggs,
like rotten eggs type smell, like you you almost felt
it when you smelled it, you know. It's very similar
to that, at least for for me, just kind of
growing up around that stuff, that's what I attributed to.

(44:39):
For other people, it's probably gonna smell different. That's just
the pheromones that they give off. But other than that,
that's you just kind of catch a little bit of
a waft of it and you're like, I'm out in
the middle of the woods, why am I smelling propeine?
And then you go, oh, okay, I know what that is,
right right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
I was just I was just curious because you hear different.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
You know, well, it smelled like, you know, rotten meat
or garbage or a skunk or a wet dog.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
So yeah, So do you.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
Think that it depends on depends on the being?

Speaker 3 (45:16):
Yeah, so do you think.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
I mean, if you think about it, like if they're
if they're like if they if they're a tribe, if
they're a troop, they're all gonna have their different personalities,
they're different ways, they're different beliefs, all that other stuff.
Like just like you and me, So like you're gonna
smell naturally different than I'm gonna smell, and I'm gonna
smell naturally different from anybody else that I pick off,
you know, the street. So I think it's just kind

(45:38):
of the same way with them. Whether or not you
smell the same exact thing that I do, it's probably
just because it's a different being, It's a different.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Right, you know, right.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Do you think they put that smell off for like
protection or a get the hell out of here?

Speaker 4 (45:55):
So they're very intimidating. They love to be intimidating. I
think that's why they stop around and yell and stuff
like that. But I think it's mostly just because they
want you to know that they're there. I think they
they hint at it a little bit, like if if
they see you and they don't really know, maybe they'll

(46:17):
kind of go up wind of you just to see
if you catch on it and you go, oh, what's that?
Or maybe if they, you know, knock a tree or
something like that makes you look if you don't pay
any attention, maybe that's the sign of them like, ah,
he's not ready. But I think it's mostly just to
kind of test the waters and see if you're actually
paying attention, or see if you're anybody that are even

(46:38):
willing to mess with or try to communicate with.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Got you, got you? Yeah, I was.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
I was just curious because we do hear that.

Speaker 4 (46:49):
That's if you're out in the woods and you smell that,
it's not necessarily a bad thing. Maybe there's a bigfoot
trying to trying to communicate with you.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Well believe, if it was trying to communicate me with me,
it wouldn't it wouldn't tend to smell quite so bad.
They can, yeah, yeah, I mean they can toss a
pebble at me.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
I'm over here, way.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
Way far in the distance here, knock, knock.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Okay, exactly, don't come up on me stinking.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
I mean, it's definitely surprising when they do that, because
for how big they are, man, they can move so
quiet before. And I was just like, oh, how did
you do that? That's crazy. Okay, I'm gonna look at
you anymore, exactly.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
And I don't understand how something seemingly as big as
these things are.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
They're just so stealth, you know.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
And it's like when my husband saw whatever it was,
he saw it was two seconds, you know, and it
was gone, and it I mean gone. He heard it
doing that little through the woods and it was I
mean it was gone. Just something large and massive, And

(48:15):
I mean, you don't know they're there when you go
into the woods.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
You don't. I mean, you just don't hear them.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
They only are heard when they want to be heard.
But I mean, you think about it. They're born in it,
they grow up in it. They play their games, and
they do whatever they do, just out there in nature naked,
you know, so they gotta That's the only way I
can explain it is just they're so used to sneaking

(48:44):
up on their prey to eat, and they they probably
play hide and seek games with each other when their siblings,
and they're you know, with their siblings when they're young.
So absolutely the masters of the wilderness. They can do
just about anything, I think without being protected. I mean,
they're that big. They got to eat somehow, so I
can imagine that they can. They can pinpoint a deer

(49:06):
with a rock or run it up, run up to
it real fast without them even realizing it was there.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
And their precision for that is phenomenal. If they're throwing
a rock at you, they could, they could knock you out,
but they don't. It goes right beside you.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
M Oh yeah. And I've had I've had campfire chats
with Todd and he's told me stories of you know,
when he's doing his backcountry stuff to try to get footage.
One specific instance that I remember, he was working along
a rock ledge, I think, to try to kind of
get up to another level. And they were throwing rocks

(49:45):
and they were knocking and they were screaming and doing
all their things, and a rock came and literally smashed
like right in front of his face on the rock,
and it blasted the rock apart and the pieces, and
it almost blinded them because because of it, you know,
going into his eyes, and they would they would pelt
him the legs with like tiny little pebbles and he's like, man,
it felt like I got shot with like a pellet

(50:05):
gun in the in the calf. He's like, it put
almost put me on my knees because it hurts so bad.
And you got to imagine that the accuracy to throw
a tiny little rock how far away you know exactly
that hint right where you're trying to hit. They must
be good at, you know, squirrel hunting.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
Right right. Thank you, Troy. That is very sweet.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Yeah, it's I've always thought it was the precision that
the Bigfoot have.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
It's it's boggling. So in your opinion, Uh, what do
you think they are, What are they?

Speaker 4 (50:49):
What do I think they are? What do you think
is like flesh and blood versus like being able to
like teleport and stuff.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Well, well, I mean we can go there. I'm down there.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
I was just asking your general opinion of what you
think a bigfoot is.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
I mean, I think there are sentient species of I
guess maybe I'm going to say it wrong. I'm probably
gonna say it wrong humanoid or hominid or homini in
one of the three that I picked. But I think
their sin I think they absolutely are very in tune

(51:31):
with their spiritual side, and they're very tight knit family groups. Absolutely,
I mean it just makes sense. Absolutely, just makes sense.
The way they move, the way they triangulate, the way
they are, the way they survive, the way that they've
been living for who knows how long without our detection.

(51:52):
I mean we're talking, we're in the the technology that
we have, yeah, that that we can do almost what
I mean, we can launch rockets thousands of miles away, yeah,
you know, but we can't find this species. So they're
doing something right. And for me, it only kind of

(52:12):
makes sense that we haven't found them because they can
evade that technology, which means they must be able to
do some sort of cloaking. But I can't say that
because I don't have any firsthand account of that. I've
never seen one just disappear in front of my eyes.
I've talked to people who have had stuff like that
happen to me, and the people that I've talked to
have been very close, very trustworthy people, and I've had
no reason to not or to disprove or discount what

(52:35):
they say. So for me, and I've said it before,
the teleportation and the cloaking and all that stuff, I
kind of have to shelf it for now. It's on
the bookshelf. It's there. I just can't talk about it
right now because I don't have enough information on it.
And same without orbs and stuff like that. UFOs have
seen UFOs. Brian was out there with me. We all

(52:57):
saw UFOs together. So that's not you know, that's not
a thing that I really branch out into. But I
find very very interesting that, you know, Bigfoot and UFO
is kind of have the same like people talk about
them in the same instance, or people have seen them together. Yes,
And I know I'm kind of derailing my conversation but

(53:18):
I just want to talk about it real quick.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
No, I'm here, I'm telling you, do you talk.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
So there's a correlation in some aspect with bigfoot and UFOs.
I think we can all say that that's true, right, right, So,
I think if Sasquatch are as spiritual as they are
and as in tune with nature and the way they
are with nature, they're going to be attracted to lay lines,

(53:48):
and they're going to be attracted to vortex's and energy
and stuff like that. Now, if there's some sort of
other species out there that are much higher knowledge and
they're able to transport themselves, I guess you could say,
or travel to other parts of the universe very fast,

(54:09):
and they were studying us, or studying our evolution, or
whatever the case may be. They're interested in us somehow,
wouldn't they be attracted to the same things. Wouldn't they
be attracted to the vortices, And wouldn't they be attracted
the high energy locations and whatever spiritual significance there is,
whether it be caves or lay lines or magnetic field arrays.
Probably botch that last term, but whatever, I think they're

(54:33):
just I think they're just attracted to the same things.
I think it's just why we kind of see them
together or why we attribute them to the same kind
of aspect of our knowledge, because we don't know enough
about either of them, but we seem to see them together.
So that's kind of my only my only theory on it,

(54:54):
right But what we were talking about four, Like I said,
I don't have enough experience to talk about the cloaking
and that type of stuff. I'm not gonna talk about
it right now. I know for a fact that they
are a living species. They are flesh and blood. They
do eat and sleep and use the bathroom like every

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other human or every other animal pretty much out there.
Other than that, I that's that's just what they are.
And I think they're very very intelligent, and I think
that's why they've been able to do a vadis for
so long. But on the other hand, too, I think
that there's a little bit of you know, cover up
to that we can get into that. Yeah, I mean,
but I also don't want my show to be shut

(55:37):
off automatically for no reason.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Please don't make me clear, just cancel me, Kyle.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
I'm totally picking up what you were putting down. So
we we will save both of.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
Our asses and stop right there with that.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Commerce Yeah, well we are already over an hour, yep.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
So but that's what we talked about. You like to talk.

Speaker 4 (56:11):
I like to talk.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
They were just in trouble tonight.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
I get off on tangents. I get in these tangents
and like one point leads to another and I'm like, oh,
but I can talk about that. Then I get into
that for thirty minutes.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
So yeah, yeah, I mean, I have no plans. My
daughter's fifteen and she's got her EarPods and her dog,
and my husband's working in an overnight shift. I mean,
I'm free, fair enough.

Speaker 4 (56:38):
It depends on how long everybody wants to watch us
babble about this stuff. I guess.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Well, it's our crew. They're here for it.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
Thanks everybody who's still watching at this point.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
We have a very a very faithful crew, and they're
very interactive.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
And you have quite a few questions. If you want
me to get into some up.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
Yeah, let's get into it.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Okay, Okay, Well, first off, I'm doing to Google. Thank
you for the two ninety nine. I appreciate that. Chris
Boylock said, how do you think we can get to
the next level improving its existence.

Speaker 4 (57:19):
I think it's going to take just more of us
getting out in the woods, getting off her phone, getting
off the internet, getting out, getting our bare feet in
the dirt, getting our hands in the water, and just
going out there and being one with nature again and
doing your camping trips and just getting out and breathing
the fresh air, get away from your phone. That's going

(57:40):
to be what it takes is just more people doing that.
They come around from what I have experienced, when you're
not worried about what bill you're going to pay or
how you're going to pay it, or going back to
work on Monday. They just want to see you out
there living, And I think that's a very significant part
of it. As for like proving their existence, I mean,

(58:03):
you're just gonna have to probably take some video cameras
with you, but just having having encounters with them and
being respectful of their environment and respectful of what we're
doing to their environment. I can only hope that it
would bring them out more and make them be a
little bit more friendly with us, and that would provide

(58:24):
us with more encounters and more knowledge and more understanding
of them. So it just starts with shutting your phone off.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Yeah, hike, Yeah, there'll be a human go out and
go out and be like wild and zany and in
loud because they're gonna be drawn to you because they're
naturally curious. Yep, don't go in there a whisper and
tiptoe be freaking.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
Yeah. If you're being sneaky, then that generally well, not
that they can say they don't like that, but if
you're being sneaky, it probably puts off the wrong energy energy.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Yes, let's see Troy in Tennessee wants to know how
many Class A, B or C encounters.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
Have you had?

Speaker 4 (59:11):
Now? Is that with UFOs or is that with Bigfoot.
I'm gonna I'm gonna say Bigfoot class A being like
sighting to at least too. There might be another one
in there, maybe three. Uh, It just kind of depends
on if I was right in being that was a
sasquatch or not B. I've had a lot of instances

(59:34):
where I've heard yells, wood knocks, tree breaks, I've heard
tree breaks being being made. I've heard them stop through
the woods. There's a lot of class b's, uh, class C,
I'm not sure kind of what stipulates into a class C,
but maybe just kind of hearing them or whatever the

(59:58):
case may.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Be, stay for more.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
But the big Foot we board.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
There's quite a few of them. It's bad to the
point because a lot of people are gonna blast me
because like, oh, you should remember every sighting you've had.
Anybody would remember every detail. When you've had so many
and you've been involved with it for so long and
you've heard so many other people's stories, they just kind
of fade out. Honestly, I just don't really remember some
of them, or I'll think about it and be like, oh,

(01:00:25):
I remember that happened, but it's too late now, you know. Yeah,
But yeah, there's been quite a few.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
All right. Ristol said, have you been working with Logan
at all with the Radium live Stream?

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Any promising captures?

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
So absolutely love Logan. Logan is by far one of
my favorite friends. Him and I. I try to keep
in touch with them as much as it can. He's
got a busy life. The Radium live Stream has been
a very promising thing. I maybe not have been involved
with it as much as I'd like to have been,
but that's also because it's very technology based and you're

(01:01:04):
talking about like Wi Fi and you're talking about you know,
like a streaming platform or whatever the case. I don't
even know how to talk about it. That's how removed
I am from that stuff. And he's he's a tech wiz,
very very intelligent guy. He built the app and everything
pretty much from from I guess what nothing would be
on the internet side. I did talk to him a

(01:01:28):
little bit about it when we first kind of came out.
They gave him some ideas. He threw some some pictures
and like the app when it was very new at
me and it was just like, hey, what do you
think of this? Should we change this? What do you
think of the spawn at this background? Stuff like that
that I helped on. Other than that, I haven't been
up there in a year, so I haven't had the

(01:01:49):
opportunity to get up there and get on camera or
help with any setup process. We did have Starlink the
last year that I was there, that was still very
new to us. From what I can tell, the live
streams that I've been watching have been super clear. I
don't know how they do it. I give props to
Logan for that. I'd love to be a little bit

(01:02:12):
more of a part of it. But I don't know
if I would do any benefit to it, because I'd
probably log in wrong and blow the whole system up
or something other than that. Now, it's absolutely if you
don't know what I'm talking about. Basically, up in our
research area in Radium at our base camp, we have
live stream cameras up and if I think if you

(01:02:33):
are subscribed to it, you can move the camera around,
You have control over the camera zooming, night vision or
day vision, you can move the camera to a different location.
It does have sound and stuff like that on it.
They're very very great quality cameras and super great picture
quality too. I don't know, like I said, how they

(01:02:54):
do it, but definitely go check it out. That's the
bare bones of what we do. That's where we are,
that's where we spend our time if we're not out
hiking and doing our research. If there is an actual
expedition going on, you can hear the campfire chats, you
can hear what people are talking about, you can hear
the wood knocks off in the distance. It's if you
can't make it or are just kind of not really

(01:03:18):
that into it and you want to go watch them.
It kind of gives you, like that, that backseat, open
door view of what we what we do there. So
I think it's a really immersive way to be a part,
really really immersive way to be a part of our
group and of the Discovering Bigfoot collective without even really
having to fly out to Canada to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
Yeah, and it's a lot cheaper.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
Yeah, yeah, much cheaper.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
All right, Troy wants to know again, Kyle, I have frozen.
Can you still hear me?

Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
Yeah, yeah, I can hear you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Okay, my screen's frozen on this god awful face there.
We get that was awful. Sorry, y'all, Kyle. Do you
research in any areas other than Radium.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
Right now? No. I try to to stay kind of
in one area. I like to to just kind of
be a part of one one troop or one you know,
tribe of them, just because I like to habituate with
a single group or a single individual in it. And

(01:04:33):
there's a couple that I have had relatively close connection to,
I guess we'll say, so, I try not to kind
of taint that. I'd rather almost not go to other areas,
just because I don't know how that tribe or that trooper.
Those individuals are going to react or act with me

(01:04:53):
there being that I have knowledge of them and I've
I've interacted with others. I don't know if they can
or whatnot. And just I don't know the land, I
don't know the area. And maybe if I had a
guide or had somebody to kind of bring me out
there and show me what's going on and then actually
live interact with one, and then I can trust a
little bit more and I would probably go back. But

(01:05:14):
right now Radium is really my only area that I
like to go back to because I know they're not
gonna throw a rock at me in the middle night
try to kill me. So that's that's pretty important for me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
There's always that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Let's see, Chris wants to know, have you tried to
get a DNA from your tracks?

Speaker 4 (01:05:34):
I have not. That is that as well outside of
my range of research, I don't have the technology capability
for that. I'd love to. I'd love to learn more
about it, and I probably will now that you asked.
I know that there are a lot of research researchers
out there that are branching into that and actually collecting DNA,

(01:05:56):
which is super amazing. That's extraordinary. I think we need
more of that, to be completely honest with you, it
is something that I probably should get into. So thank
you for that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Absolutely, And that's why I love when when questions are asked,
you know, at the end of the show, because you're
getting different people's perspectives and different things that they're knowledgeable
in that you know, it just gives you a whole
different avenue. Right, Troy wants to know, is the picture
with his hand a six toed creature figure?

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
I don't know. I'm not sure. I mean, that's Bagna Moss.
It's very hard to tell. Like you can see, yeah,
you can see where I guess it would look like
a six toad figure, but puts Bagnum moss. Maybe there's
a stick there that ripped it out a little bit
more when he stepped on. There's really no way to
kind of tell unless you saw the individual or stepped

(01:06:57):
in mud and gave you a little bit better of
an impress and we're able to see that, right, I'm
gonna say no, just because I've never had a six
toed track, it would be absolutely incredible to know an.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Individual that does have six toes.

Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
I'm just not gonna say for sure that that is
or that isn't. I think it's probably not.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Okay, all right, we'll leave it at that. Let me
get back here. I don't know if this is a
question for you or just a question comment.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
Did you know possums have what looks like an opposable thumb?

Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
They're crazy? I love possums. My buddy's got it. I
probably shouldn't say that. I don't know whatever state it's legal,
whatever state is legal to have a possum as a pet,
and my buddy has one. It.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
I think the longer we talk, the more in trouble
we get.

Speaker 4 (01:07:52):
Yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
Let me just make sure there's not any more follow
up questions that I missed.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Let's see, is there anyway where do we go to
see radium livestream?

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
So there is an app. I'm pretty sure it's called
Discovering Bigfoot. If not, you can go on the Discovering
Bigfoot fan page and we do post some stuff up
there every once in a while. Or logan does that
has links to that live stream where you can just
go on I think the website to download the app,

(01:08:31):
or you can just look it up on on iOS
or or Google Google Play.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Yeah, yeah, that's cool. Well, I've enjoyed having you. You're
always welcome back.

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Yeah, we just we get we get each other in trouble.
I don't want to cancel you and you don't want
to cancel me, and uh so we got to quit
while we're ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
It's also getting pretty late for everybody out there, so yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
It's eleven fifteen here, so yep. So but do do reach.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Back out to me because you have some phenomenal stuff
I know just from being up there in radium and
even around your your area that we can share.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
Absolutely anytime you got an opening, let me know, be
happy to come back. Well, pe will have some more
questions too.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
Oh yeah, they.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Are so amazing at asking questions and they ask these
really great questions.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
So I always love this portion. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
When Todd Todd does his Limes live streams and we'll
get a lot of pictures and uh well not pictures,
we'll get a lot of people who come on and
ask really good questions. I'm like, I've known Todd for
years and I've never even thought to ask him that question,
Like I've he slept on my couch. I've never you
never thought to ask him.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
That, you know, and then it makes you feel like
an idiot. You're like, damn, I don't think of.

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
That, right, Why do I not know that?

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Well, I'm sure you have tons more stuff that we
can talk about. So yeah, reach back out to me.
You have my email address, I am. I am very
responsive to emails, phone calls, types, all that good stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
So and we will have you back on.

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
I appreciate that. Yeah, And just for everybody out there.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
Oh yes, please do promote it. I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
I there's I don't want to put it out too
much because I'm not one hundred percent sure on like
the dates and what it's going to come out to
entitle stuff like that. There is a documentary or I
guess a six part series with me in it from
New York, so that should be coming out this year,
which is huge. I also am planning to go back

(01:10:51):
to Radium this year, specifically mid September, and I do
have somebody in mind that I plan on inviting. Hopefully
he can make it. I think it'd be very, very
big to have him out there and be a part
of discovering Bigfoot and we'll just kind of see how
it works, and if if that doesn't work, I'll just
have Brian come back out, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
And be like, hey, Brian, oh yeah, it's trip.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
Hey buddy, got it. Got an idea for you? What
do you do in September?

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
That's funny. Well, is there anything you have coming up
other than that?

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Any any links that that we can talk about that
people can go to to find you.

Speaker 4 (01:11:36):
I don't have anything quite yet. You can look me
up on Instagram Discovering Bigfoot podcast, and I am on YouTube.
You can look that up to that is under Sylvanic Bigfoot,
under his channel, under todch channel. So all my shows
are on that and like I said that that should

(01:11:56):
that new series should be coming out the end of
the year. Also been on Cowboy TV Cowboy channel. That
was the other episodes I think that I was on.
So yeah, and then of course all the other podcasts
that are out there. I've been on Sasquatch Odyssey, I've
been on The big Foot Report, now ky X Files Man,

(01:12:20):
I've been on Cam's show Scrypted. I've been on all
of them. So if you want to hear any more stories,
there's a bunch of them out there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
So well, well, we appreciate yeah, when we appreciate you
reaching out and saying, hey, I've never.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
Been on your show, can be on your show, because I.

Speaker 4 (01:12:36):
Must say yes, yeah, absolutely. I love going on new shows.
I love meeting new people. Everybody that I've ever met
in the Sasquatch community has been super amazing people. I
try to keep in contact with everybody that I can.
I'm not good at sometimes, but you know, life happens,
so life happens.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
It's okay. Well, if you want to, you can email
me those links and I will send them to Wangne.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
When this goes to podcast, we will include those links
within the show notes.

Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
All right, sounds good. I appreciate it, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
Of course, thank you again, Kyle. You have a good
rest of your night, you.

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We'll talk again soon.

Speaker 5 (01:14:28):
Through the woods, the pine trees sway, shadows long at
end of day, Bigfoots call on the whispering breeze. Secrets
kept by an shoot trees, dog man house bring echoes

(01:14:53):
in the silent two.

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
Tracks.

Speaker 5 (01:14:58):
We fine, but answers none. A hunt the truth, that's
just the gun. We're searching past the fire light. Four

(01:15:20):
creatures hidden our sight in the forest, hardware, shadows lay seeking,
see chrits in the twilight, great through the fog, A
shape did glye skin walker eyes so wide, Legends of Oh,

(01:15:49):
we chase to night in the dark, our lanterns bright
by the creek or water spill whispers ry, the winds chill,
full of steep man tails on top in this land,

(01:16:12):
the myths of over. We're searching past the fire light
full creature's hidden, out of sight in the forest hard

(01:16:34):
where shadows lay, seeking seacrits in the twilight break