TBR EP:334 Searching for the SkunkApe

On this episode of The Bigfoot Report Wayne welcomes Mike Aguilar to the show to discuss his search for the Skunkape in Florida. We were all surprised and blessed to have his 11 year old son and fellow researcher, Kaylen join him. This was such a great talk with two excilent researchers. Kaylens story is absolutley amazing and heart warming. This was the best interview in a very long time!


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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
And these people that claim or carry themselves without actually
claiming to be an expert, a bigfoot expert. I mean,
come on, what the hell is a bigfoot expert? There
is no such thing as an expert when it comes
to bigfoot.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
They know in an instant that you were in the woods.
There is no hiding from them, There is no being
quiet or sneaking up on them. As soon as you
walk in the woods, you walk in their front door,
thinking that you are going to surprise them. You're only
kidding yourself.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
We have got to get it out of our heads
that anecdotal evidence is not evidence. The best way, in
my opinion, that we have to learn about these creatures
right now is by listening to and talking to those
that have experiperience them, those who have witnessed them and
experienced them in their own environment.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
We do what we do to try to bring awareness
to this topic, to be an open door for somebody
to walk through, to be able to share their story,
a listening ear, a support pold for those who have
had their own encounters with that which is not supposed
to exist.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
We've got to open our eyes people, there is something
out there. All of these thousands of people that have
seen something. They're not all lined, they're not all crazy.
There are some very reputable, good people out there that
have seen something. But I'm super excited to have mister

(01:49):
Mike Aguilar backstage ready to talk some skunk ape and
he's gonna, believe, have his son come on a little
bit and share some of his experiences and go to
meet him and a real cool little guy. Can't wait
to get to pick their brains about some of the
stuff they are experiencing down there. But we're gonna go

(02:10):
ahead and get him out here. Michael tub Buddy, Hey,
how you doing, brother, Doing very well, very well. Thank
you so much for taking the time to come and
hang out with me.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Oh, thank you for having me appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yes, sir, Yes, it is absolutely my pleasure, like I
do with everybody. Buddy, I'm gonna start at the beginning.
What happened? Did you have an encounter? Were you always interested?
How old? Where all that good stuff? Just to start
from the beginning and take off.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, so about it was just about eight to nine
years ago. I think it was eight years ago. I
was going fishing with my best friend, and before this
day I liked bigfoot, I like the thought of it.
I'd seen shows, but I wasn't much of a believer
I would do that was more of a I don't

(03:01):
know either way. And I'm went with him. We're going fishing.
Six thirty in the morning. We're going to go to
home a sass of Florida, and little back road that
I drive to go to a little private boat ramp.
And I've driven that road a hundred times and you know,
no big deal. And I'm driving down six thirty in
the morning that time of year, the sun is just

(03:21):
kind of peeking over the trees, like just coming over
the trees. And as I'm going down this winding road,
there's a big part that has like a double S
curve in it, and it's about a half a mile
long of S curves. It's winding, and as you go
around this curve you can see up ahead to like
one or two curves up. And as I'm coming around
that curve, I see this guy on the side of

(03:42):
the road, you know, big, a dark shadow guy. He's
walking up out of the coming up from this way,
and he stepping onto the road and the next step,
as I'm going on the curve, he made another step
and walked right into that light that was just breaking
across the road, and he went from shadow look like
a dude, big dude that was in the shadow. He
turned the cinnamon and cinnamon's brown colored, and I could

(04:05):
as soon as he hit it, it lit him up.
And he walked into it. And he was looking towards us,
so I didn't see any facial features or nothing. I
could just see how big he was. He was massive,
but he was not super thick, but just tall and lean,
just bit and he was perfect, almost patty stride. As
he was crossing the road looking over at me, and

(04:26):
that sun hit him in the back and you could
see like the hair like that kind of behind him,
like standing out like a silhouette. Yeah, and I stopped.
I got up. Once I came around the curve, he
was gone. I mean it was that quick. As I
came around that curve, the next curve already gone. It
was just perfect where I could see it. My best
friend was next to me, didn't see it. He was

(04:47):
looking out the window and the way the road curves,
he didn't see it. He's still to this day claims
I'm crazy, But I've shown him a little bit of
evidence since then, so he's kind of on board. But
that was the day that like I didn't believe it
like I did until then.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
That was a day man, we got to talk about
these damn roadside crossings because I think they're intentional. That's
just my personal beliefs. These things have managed to stay
perfectly hidden from us for all these years, all this time,
and then you mean to tell me they just go
stupid all of a sudden when they hear a car coming, right, No,

(05:26):
I mean so many it.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Was allowed truck to its allowed diesel truck.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, so many people are reporting seeing them, just like
you reported. I've talked to so many people, but we
can't see and when we go out in the woods
looking for them, but just drive down the road and
they'll just walk out in front of you. Stupid luck,
right that are they to be seen?

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yeah? Well, I definitely. It definitely changed my life forever
because I couldn't forget what I saw. I couldn't put
it past. I'm a pretty smart guy. I've been out
in the woods in Florida my whole life, grew up
here forest generation and I'd never seen nothing close to that,
and it just it's everything in my head changed, everything,

(06:14):
my beliefs, everything.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
What part of Florida, min.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Pasco County, Wesley Chapel, Florida is where I'm from, But
it happened in Homa Sassa, Florida, which is about an
hour north, about an hour north of me, is where
it happened.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Okay, So would you say you're in north middle. I
don't know anything about Florida, north middle of South Florida.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
All right, So I'm thirty minutes north of Tampa.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I got you, I got you.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
So we're central, right pretty much, I'm west central basically,
all right.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
And that's you said, that's not where the encounter happened,
or it happened.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
It happened an hour north of there, right on the
coast almost. It's a coastal area where we are going
fishing and Paltwater and it's the Nature Coast and it
runs it's actually now I know, it's part of the corridor,
Florida Corridor that runs all the way up US nineteen,
all the way up into Alabama and Georgia and all that.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Okay, Okay, So you have this experience, this stroadside crossing
and opened your eyes changes you Normally, when this happens
to someone from the people I've talked to over the years,
you go one of two ways. You either shut the
hell down and give everything outdoors up, or you go
gung ho kind of like you, I'm assuming, and just

(07:32):
start looking. What was your next step after this encounter?

Speaker 3 (07:38):
I went home, googled everything I could google, looked around
at every type of bigfoot thing I could look at,
started watching every documentary anything I could find. And I
did that for a couple of weeks, just studying stuff,
looking at things, learn and educate myself about it because
I didn't know anything about the topic, the subject, you know.
And then then after that I started reaching out to

(08:00):
people and trying to find out they're looking around, who's
in the state and does things, you know. So and
then after that I decide I want to start going
in I'm gonna take I wanted to take some of
the places I grew up in a preserve and the
back of it's a ten thousand acre preserve that a
creek called Cyprus Creek runs right through that preserve, and
it I didn't know this now, but now I know

(08:22):
that creek runs down and is directly in the middle
of Florida's corridor that meets everything that goes and ties
into the green Swamp and everything around it. It's one
giant loop and all these things can move freely how
they wanted to through that corridor and that around that area.
And these are the hot hotes spots in Florida, some

(08:42):
of these areas, you know, the green Swamp especially, And
but I mean kind of got lost brows going there. Sorry, buddy,
too many thouts at one time.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
It happens, all right, So rain overload, that's right. We'll
go ahead and uh, well we'll switch gears a little bit.
I did kind of want to jump ahead. I'm curious
if you've had another siding since then, something we would
consider a class A.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
I've had. I've had four four four major encounters. I've
had three class as.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
We got time for all of them. Man.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Well, after after I started going out and and kind
of learning what I was learning, I decided I want
to go out and try some areas, and I wanted
to try those areas that I grew up, and I
just realized where I was at a minute ago. I
want to go out and try some of those areas
that I grew up in because as a teenager, I
used to go back there and fish. There's no hunting,
it's a completely protected area. And I would go back there,

(09:50):
ride my bicycle back there, and every time i'd be fishing,
I always got creaked out. I mean I was back
in the middle of nowhere. I go back in this
this creek has a lot of good bass fishing in it,
and I've all I'd go follow the creek all over
back there, and like I said, I just always get
creeped out until I finally get creeped out and I'd
leave because I thought it was gators watching me, to
be honest, like you know, you're a kid, like thinking

(10:11):
all these gators are watching me or something. Don't slip.
I know there's huge gaters in there. So I went
back out there about I don't know, a couple of
months after my sighting, and I went and what it
is where you get to the gate, it's the only
bikes can get in. Bikes or horses, no motors, no hunting,
no nothing. And there's one little paved road that goes

(10:33):
through the middle of the deserve to the well stations
for swift mud. And so I went back. I rode
my bike back, and it's about total of three miles
to where I wanted to go. I wanted to go
into the deepest part of the creek. And I'm thinking, yeah,
I remember, I'm just starting out with this. Now, I've
never done any of this, but I'm gonna try and
use logic. I'm thinking, all right, everybody says these things

(10:55):
are nocturnal, So they're nocturnal. I'm going to go in
the middle of the day, hottest part of the day,
go out there. If they're maybe they're like deer, they'll
be betted down. I'll jump them, I'll spook them whatever,
you'll catch them off guard. Well it happened. That's exactly
what I did. It's got goosebumps thinking about it. I
went back there and I had to ride my bike about.
Like I said, it's like two and a half miles

(11:15):
to where I got off, and then another half a
mile hike over to a little where the creek is
where I wanted to go. I'd never been into this
part of the reserve before, and I was way back
in there. Well, as I followed this little trail back,
it went to the right. I was following my Google
Google earth and I went back. I wanted to hit
that part of the trail or the creek. I mean, well,

(11:36):
I'm walking down that trail and there's the first thing
I see is a limb going a tree broken across
the trail this way and one going this way, both
two different breaks like that and almost on top of
each other. And as I walked up to it, it
was like everything and my gut turned on and said,

(11:56):
don't go no farther. That's put there for a reason.
Shouldn't go over that. But I'm stubborn and nothing scares me,
you know. And I got to tell you also, where
my biggest mistake was is I was being so quiet.
I was stealthy. I was full camo. I even have
a paste my face painting. I was full. I'm going
to go all in right. Well, I stepped over that

(12:18):
tree and about three steps farther and I saw a footprint,
and that footprint was massive, and I'm like, oh my god,
this is real. I'm looking at this footprint and about
I didn't even get a chance to really analyze the
footprint before I heard something crash next to me. If
you've ever heard Palmeadow's crash when it like a stick
or a tree or something falls into him. It's just

(12:38):
super loud. And this is in the middle of probably
I think July. It's hot, no wind blowing, there's no
sounds out there, so this forest just craph sh And
then I didn't even it was so loud. It was
like twenty yards away from me. I was like jump,
I'm like and I kind of like happed oop in
my eye and about that time I felt it and
hurd this deep like it came. It projected at me.

(13:07):
It was instant. I turned. I didn't even want to look.
I turned. I turned that the other way. I said,
I'm leaving. I'm sorry, I'm leaving. I didn't know what
it was. I didn't want to find out. I'd pissed
it off. I caught it off guard. So I start
walking up. Now, I remember, I got a half a
mile walk, so it's on this side of the trail.
I got to walk up and go that way down

(13:28):
the other trail to get out on that side of
those woodlines. As I start walking out, it starts walking
with me. Crunch crunch, crunch, crunch. I'm walking out. I'm trying.
I got my buck pucker walk going, you know, but
and I'm trying not to run, going to run. I
don't know what it is. And so I getting my
walks getting faster. It's getting faster. I stopped. It stopped

(13:49):
like I'm getting scared. Man, I'm getting freaked out. Now.
Next thing, I start hearing this sound. It was like,
what's that? And then a stick laying in front of me.
Right in front of me, they were throwing sticks at me.
And if I may walk down, I'm literally about the
tier up, you know, like, I got like tears bubble

(14:09):
into my eyes and I'm I've never felt that before.
Now I get about from I get to my bike.
I'm good. I got on my bike, I ride out,
nothing ever happens again. I get all the way back
to my truck, and as soon as I got off
the bike, I threw up and then I was dizzy
as I could be. Started feeling worse. I got in
my truck. My ears started feeling swollen, and I found

(14:31):
out later I got zapped, is what everybody said. They
said that you got zapped. I didn't even know what
that meant at the time. I didn't know what infrasound
was at the time, you know, and but whatever, it
was completely messed me up for four days, my ears
and everything. I was just not right.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know what to make I've
never experienced that I've talked to. You're probably the tenth
person now i've talked to that that has experienced that.
And it's something. It's absolutely something you mentioned RPG. Stay
tuned for more but the big Foot Report. We'll be
right back. I think before we came on you you know,

(15:09):
you and him are good buddies and he had to
leave you know, he was on the original expedition Bigfoot
and had to leave you after like the first episode
because he got that sick for no reason anything that
that could have been.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Have you have you ever suffered with a migraine, real
bad or anything.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
I don't know that I've had a migraine. I've had
some pretty bad headaches, but I don't know about a migraine.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Well, I'm I chronically have them, like and I have
like major migraines with complications, and they will make you
your your balances off, your inner ear feels all goofy.
And that's what it made me feel like for like
four days. And the weirder part now is when I
go into the woods and I'm in the area where

(15:56):
these things are at, I can feel it. Whatever they're
putting out I can pick up on and I swear
my ears get like pressure in them. It feels like
my ears have pressure every time I get in the woods.
It's only in the woods in areas that I've known
these things are at we found evidence of and I
do in other woods, I'm fine, but my ears something

(16:16):
with whatever they're kicking out, it's does something to my
ears now and it's weird.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah, And before we move on, something else that that
I wanted to touch on. You were talking about you're
basically being paralleled out of the woods and what I
believe because again, talking to as many people as I
have over the years, I've heard this. Never experienced it,
but I've heard it, and I feel like, and you
might agree, that this is their way of ensuring that

(16:44):
you're getting the hell out of their area. Like if
I stay with them and I keep throwing shit at
him and let him know I'm right here, he's going
to continue to leave, and if he don't, he's going
to have trouble. That's that's my thought.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
After learning what I've learned.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
Now.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
I truly think what happened was I did exactly what
I wanted to do. I caught them off guard. The
middle of the day they were bedded down because when
I went back there, I went back with the RT guys.
Those are some of the first guys I ever went
out with. And when I went back with them, it
was I was scared to go back there by myself again.
So but I went with the whole group and we
went back and I got to see it exactly where
I think this thing was at, and there was two

(17:22):
orange trees, wild orange trees back there in this area
right where this thing I think stood got up and
there's a tree. The trees were like an oak tree
like this, and perfect laying area where something could be
laying in. And I think that he got up and
uses use something to help get up the big alpha,
and it broke something and it fell into the palmetics.

(17:42):
That's what I think happened. And then he let me
know quickly that I wasn't welcome there.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, yeah, I thank you. You could be up, you
could be right.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
And now.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
I'm sorry, go ahead mate.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Oh no, as I say that, the I've had to
what I call bad encounters. The rest of them have
not ever been bad, nothing, nothing even remotely bad. But
I've had two that were doozies.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
So remind me when what timeframe was this? That these
were pretty relatively close together, But how long ago?

Speaker 3 (18:16):
That would have been about the same time, about seven
and a half years ago.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Okay, So after this, and it was the middle of summer, Okay,
after this, when what happens next?

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Well, even though I was really nervous about what happened,
had I got the itch and now it scared me
so bad, but I had to go back, like, I
had to go find out more about it. So I
started doing more in depth on Google Earth and different places,
and I followed where that creek went, and I followed

(18:48):
where sightings have been throughout Hillsborough County, Pascoe County, Polk County,
all surround the counties. And I noticed that there's an
area where the creek ran through, in an area that's
really really hidden and it really got narrow, and there
was power lines there, a big power line run after
here and all of them the lake power lines, And
so that was just my next thought. So I went
and I parked next to this fancy neighborhood, and i'd

(19:13):
have to to get I'll come. I have to jump
stories to come to a story in a minute here.
But because technically I found this spot that this happened
when I was with my son and we were going
fishing when I found it, and the next day after
we had an issue when we were fishing, is when
I came to this place. And to get to it,
there's a creek that runs right through the middle of it,
so we have big assgators. You can't cross the creek,

(19:36):
and I mean, you got twelve foot gaters in this thing.
And so I had to go the long way around,
which takes you about three miles four miles to get
back to it. We got about three or four miles
I had to get back into it. It's really not
a far far hike, but to go around the river
it makes it like four miles. And I got back
in there, and I took my dog with me, so
I felt a little more comfortable to having my dog
with me and it was just me and her, and

(19:59):
we went back into this area I wanted to get
to where I had heard some things going on with
my son the day before, and I got in there
and she followed her nose into this little trail and
I followed her in and it took me right into
where I was hearing these sounds when I was with
my son the day before. I walked up and I
see this big leaning bush and I sent you pictures

(20:21):
and you could see it like there's a three. It's
three palm palm trees that are together. Palm trees don't
go over very easy hurricanes or whatnot. They don't go
over easy. This palm. These three palms were leaning like this,
and on this side of it was a stick that
was no leaves on it, completely smooth, holding that side
of it up and it was supporting. On this side

(20:42):
under the root ball was dug out and something huge
had been laying in it. And my dog, she was
just non stop sniffing in that area. She wouldn't leave
it alone. So long story short, I looked around. I
found a couple more of these little bedding looking things.
I got pictures of them, and I went out to
the main trail and started walking out. And as I
went around this curve and I found two footprints, and

(21:03):
the footprints I sent you pictures of as well. They
were nineteen inches by ten and I'm looking at these
footprints and the same thing went off that happened to me,
you know, a month before, where my gut was saying,
don't do it. Stop, don't go nowhere, don't go no farther.
And this time I'm like, I'm not gonna disobey it.

(21:24):
So I started taking pictures of the footprints. The only
thing I had with me was a bottle of water.
I put a water bottle beside it, try and get
a comparison how big it was at the time. And
I'm sitting there and my dog, she's with me. I
got her on the leash, and she is staring into
the woodline that's about thirty yards away across the trail.
There's a solid bushy I mean a real, real dense

(21:47):
bushy line and three trees, three or four trees coming
out the top of it, about twelve thirteen foot high.
You could see the trees above that. The trees were
probably fifty foot And she is sitting there. She starts
doing at little grol umbling growl like you know, I'm like,
oh no, I just the next thing, I swear, I
felt like somebody stomped, and like somebody stomped the ground. Boom.

(22:09):
I felt it this boom, and that tree moved in
the middle and then moved again, and then it went
I swear like this about five or six times and
went over. And that was followed by the loudest screaming
sounding thing I'd ever heard. Might leave my dog. She
was so terrified she turned around and almost hung herself

(22:31):
on her lease trying to get away. I literally, I
literally went into tears. But I thought this thing was
coming out of the woods at me. I thought I'm
dying right there. And I've never had anything scare me,
but now I'm already nervous because of what happened before.
I know what I'm dealing with. Once I saw that
tree and what it did to it. And this is

(22:52):
a tree, you know, it's good, good size, true, and
it shook that thing like it was nothing and put
it over. And then that yell she turned, she hung
her almost hung herself. I go all the way back out.
I'm walking yelling out. I'm sorry, I'm yelling to it.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm leaving, and I get out.

(23:13):
I walk all the way back to my truck, and
everard touched me. I go back to my truck. Two
cops are sitting there behind my truck because I had
parked across the street from one of the fanciest neighborhoods
in Tampa and so I could go into that that
power line run and come in. Well, they thought I
was hunting back there, is what they thought. Because I was.

(23:33):
They saw me in Camo with a dog, They'd think
I'm hunting back there. So I can walking up and
I'm probably looking like a crackhead because my eyeballs. I'm terrified,
and I'm like.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
My officers, you know, they're like, uh, what are you
doing back here? And I'm like house hiking and they're like,
what are you really doing? Man? You hunting? What are
you doing? I was like, all right, I'm just gonna
be honest with you. I remember my and this big
I was like, I just had something happen back there.
There's something back there. I said, I'm looking for big

(24:06):
foot and they're like what I said, I'm looking for
evidence of bigfoot back here. And the guy's like he
literally said, you can't make that up. And they talked
to me for a minute. He's like, listen, they think
you're hunting back here. I truly believe you because I
don't think and never would you make that up. He's like,

(24:28):
be careful, you know, you never know what could be
back there. I always I don't know what you ran into.
But it doesn't sound like it liked you be in there,
and he was, you know, did the whole copspiel, but
they didn't do anything. They just kind of told me,
this is your warning. You can't come back to this
entrance ever again. So that was number two.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Now were you carrying mine? I?

Speaker 3 (24:47):
I just had my big bowie knife on me, my
big boe knife and my bowe knife and my neck knife.
Really all I carry around in our woods. Because if
you were to end up on federal land or or
state land and you're caught with a firearm, it's a
big difference, if you know, if it's I if you're
in the land, you don't realize you're in some property

(25:08):
that maybe you're not allowed to be in, and you
get a you'll get a warning. But if you've got
a firearm on you, it's a different story. It could
be a felony.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, that that does make a lot of sense, It
really does. And that's a question I ask everyone that
I come on because I personally believe that my group
Manimal Research, we carry, but we only carry handguns because
I firmly believe that they know what what guns are.
I know, I believe they know what long guns, rifle shotguns.

(25:39):
Just through experience, maybe I believe they know what they are.
So if you go out there with an AR or
a twelve gage or something, you're defeating the purpose. You're
not gonna You're not gonna have an encounter in my opinion,
and I the gun is not for bigfoot. The gun
is for the crackhead that's out there hiding that you know,

(26:01):
is seeing stuff, climbing trees and ship Now, those are
the ones I'm afraid of, right, one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
I'm way more scared of I'm I have not ran
into anybody in these areas. They're very remote and I've
never ran into anybody out there, but that would probably
terrify anymore for sure.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
But the biggest, the thing I worry about the most,
and I carry a pretty large bowie knife, is mostly
because of hogs. To be honest, like I am, I've
been I've been treated a couple of times by hogs.
By sALS twice by sALS Never a board, But if
I run across a big board, I want something that
could take him out if I have to fight the
damn thing, you know. And then we have a lot,

(26:40):
a lot of hogs down here, and they're they're everywhere.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, I hear y'all got a problem with them down there.
Oh something else, man, This is off topic. This is
off topic. But the day and how do y'all live
with all them snakes?

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Huh uh? Yeah. We're good friends with David Sheeley down
there in the Everywades, and we go down there quite
a bit and we've we've actually become really good friends
with all the python hunters down there and everybody too.
And you got to go do it with them a
couple of times and hang out with those guys. Man.
It's it's wild. The size of these snakes. The size
of these snakes are absolutely you can't even fathom them

(27:16):
until you see it, how big they really are, you know.
And now they're all the way up, they're coming up
towards Tampa. Now they're already up in Sarasota and they're
making their way north.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
They're coming, man, don't don't say that they have to
make it all the way through Florida and then they
have to make it through Georgia and Alabama before they
got to me in Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
But they just need to stay it's too cold.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
I think you're too cold up there. I think you're lucky.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
But I've been old winners.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
I think they're gonna make it up towards Tampa. I
think they'll make it up that far because we're damn
hot in this area. But it gets during the winter.
It gets a different type of cold, about ten or
fifteen degrees cold or just north an hour of us,
you know.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, So talked about a couple of them.
Go ahead and just move on to whichever one you
want to talk to next, or whenever you want to
bring your boy on. Just I'll leave that up to you.
But I'm enjoying hearing what you've experienced.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, well I can. I can let him come out
real quick for a minute. He just want to come
out and say hi real quick. Okay, uh. Because because
his encounter happened literally the day before. His first encounter
happened the day before the one I just told you about.
His encounter is the reason I went back out there
and went into this area that next day.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Okay, I don't know if you want to share everything
that you shared with me about you know, what he's
been through and everything, but you are welcome to talk
about that if you want to.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
There's a little man is this kayliny? All right? So
we were just talking about I was just told him
about the truth, right, so to go back a little
bit to your places in this next camera and get
a little bit worm. So we were I was telling
him the day before that that's the reason I went.

(29:09):
So me and him, I decided I want to take
him fishing and that creek. I know that creek runs
through there, and we were on this side of the
creek where that what that thing happened I just told
you about, was the other side of the creek. So
we're on this side of the creek and we're there
for about I don't know, fifteen minutes fishing around the
edge of this thing. And one of the first things

(29:30):
we found with found this giant bowel movement like that
on the side of the sand and that thought was
kind of weird. Yeah, well, this creek does like it
goes this way that way, and that way. There's like
a big s right in that one spot. If you're
standing over here, the bushes are so thick you can't
see what's over there until you walk over and kind

(29:51):
of peak and then you can see down in a ways.
When we did that, what started happening? Right whenever we
peaked around that corner.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
We kept on hearing noise just for like what an hour?

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Stay tuned for more? But did they put report We'll
be right.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Back for at least about a half hour.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
You're live what kind of noises?

Speaker 4 (30:15):
So you know what a barn owl sounds like?

Speaker 6 (30:19):
Yes, sir, well, basically that, but way deeper, way deeper
and super loud.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
It's like a thousand pounds huh, like a thousand pounds.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
L Yeah, well it was. It was like as soon
as we got around that corner, it was like and then.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
But it sounds like it's not no.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
It sounded like a group of orangutangs out there trying
to sound like owls. It was so loud, And it
was like as soon as he was over there, you know,
peeking around, and then it started and I got over there,
it was just going off and it's about I don't
know three blocks or so to where that creek turns again,
and that's what it was on that corner, and that
property is where where they were coming from. I couldn't

(31:05):
see where it was coming from. I could I could
see where it came from, but I couldn't see into it.
Just barely into it, you know. And there are some
trees that were out there peeking out that you can
kind of see this a little bit. And then what happened.

Speaker 6 (31:18):
So, yeah, okay, so we were, you know, I was fishing,
like he said. So I'm I'm just, you know whatever,
fishing really in my bake. That happened to look over
just across the creek because we're in this like little
open area fishing, right, So I'm looking across the creek

(31:41):
and there's this big tree and I almost saw some
some little movement and I'm looking.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
It caught my eye. It just like my eyes just
locked in that area.

Speaker 6 (31:55):
So I was staring there because I kept on seeing
like movement, and then I saw what looked like ahead
it went like that, and then it saw me, I think,
and it was like that it went back and I
see his shoulders were literally peeking out of the tree.
He was like probably three and a half but wide.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
It was like it was like it tried to hide
behind the tree, but I still wasn't hidden all the
way because it was still too wide.

Speaker 6 (32:22):
Yeah, traddled about like that, Yeah, that why, But obviously
what's going to be that wide trying.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
To hide behind?

Speaker 3 (32:29):
He comes over, Dad, Dad, he just saw one and
I'm like something, I just saw something that's right. And
I'm like, He's like it look like somebody looking at me.
And I looked at him like, come on, dude. I
was like, don't be messing with me.

Speaker 7 (32:41):
You know.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
I was like, you know, I know, I told I told,
I told him we're going out. Hopefully we'll see some
big foots choking around.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
You know.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
We had just the first time he'd ever really done
with me doing this, and I'm like, I'm like, quit
messing around. He's like he looks at me. He's like no,
he gets mad. He's like, no, dude, saw something right
there and looking at me. He got all upset. He
was really like crying upset. I'm like, I'm sorry, buddy,
I'm sorry. I didn't. I didn't I thought you were
joking with me. He's like, no, I won't what I
like about that.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, in my opinion that that's a pretty good indication.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
And oh yeah, well I'm creeped out now.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
And I'm like, you know what, I don't know what
these things are capable of. I still haven't. I'm just
still learning this stuff, you know, I don't know much
about it at all. And I'm like, I didn't feel
comfortable having him there, so I went ahead and took
him out because I was uncomfortable with I didn't know
what they were capable of. And we get back in
the truck and we got back home and I'm like,

(33:38):
you susedill remember really good what you saw? And he's like, yeah,
of course. I'm like he loves to draw. Caitlin's a
very good drawer, and I'm like, why don't you draw
what you saw? And that's one of the pictures I
sent you is his little illustration of him drawing. And
he drew this perfect little creek and this thing peeking
out mind a tree with red eyes like it made

(33:58):
it all, like, made it cool looking.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
I can't get these pictures to upload. I've been trying.
I tried before, I've been trying out the show. Hopefully
i'll get them and I can share them. We probably
have to have you got back anyway, and I'll make
sure that I get them all uploaded them. But I
hate that I can't share what you sent me.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
No, that's all right, man. I probably should have figured
out a different way.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
To send them to Now it was my fault. You
sent them just like I asked you to. It's it's
not interesting and it's just it's hit or miss, and
today it was a miss.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Well that that uh you saw the pictures though yourself.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yes, yes I have.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
So that was that drawing, That's what that was. That
one of that inverted tree, that inverted tree. That's that
was really cool. That was one of the well from
especially what David Soddy said, whenever they came out and
did their the first time. They're the first people I
ever did anything with. And when they came out we
all went back there three miles back into this place.
But that tree was one of the first things I

(34:55):
ever found, and it was about twenty feet or so
off the main trail going in and sitting there fifty
forty fifty foot long cypress tree upside down with the
root ball sticking up in the air and no other
cypress trees in that area. All cypers trees were a
couple hundred yards away. This had to be put there.
There were no divots in the ground, there was nothing,

(35:17):
nothing where this thing came out of the ground. It
was like placed there like this ain't angle perfect right
where you can see it. To me, it looked like
somebody saying, look how big and strong I am, and
like a big you know, That's what it feels like
to me.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Okay, I'm getting one of the images of the print.
It's finally loading for some reason. So if you want
to Mike or Klein, either one of you want to
go ahead and jump into another story. I'll work on
getting trying to get some of these pictures uploaded.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Okank, you, well, what's that you want to stay here
for a few minutes? Sure, Okay, how about we'll tell him.
We'll tell him. So I took him. I have another
area after this area. After this happened, I found another
area that's also part of that preserve. And this ended
up being one of the really cool places I've ever

(36:06):
gone into. And the creek runs right up behind a
neighborhood and literally the creek is the only thing that
kind of prevents people from getting It's an old neighborhood,
but right right the back of people's yards. But behind
you crossed that creek and you're in a ten thousand
acre preserve. And I found access points into that that

(36:30):
were the back of county property where they had had
a fence line that goes around there. And we started
going into these places, and I was going, I've been
going in there now for over four years in this area,
and I know there's a family group back there, and
big difference between those things that and what I encountered
the first time. And I learned that I'm not going

(36:55):
to ever go sneaking up on these things again. So
I started a whole different approach when I would go
into places, and I started talking, dancing, singing, whistling, and
I let everything know I was coming into that area.
I lan that and it changed everything. But this area

(37:17):
we have learned so much. I'll come back to that.
I just want to let you know about the area
because we have two access points that we come into
this at on the dispreserve, two different little spots about
a mile from each other. Well, I took him to
the other one. There's a ridge that you come up on.
And they built a burn for flood control at the
back of this neighborhood and they dug it out and
so at the grounds. You don't have high ground Florida

(37:37):
too often, but this has got like a bike trail
kind of deal that goes through the woods up high
the neighborhood. The houses are on this side and behind
it's just that ten thousand acres and a big ass
swamp out there. And we're walking down this burn and
there's a perfect trail that goes for like what two
miles back there at least it winds around for about
two miles back there. And so we're walking in and

(37:57):
like we had learned a few different calls from the
other location, and what we noticed was when you walk
into a spot, you we'll just hear it and that's it,
and then you'll hear another one and then another one.
And that happened a lot in this spot. So when
I found this place, we took in there and started
doing it. Well. He learned on that for me too,
And he's out there, he's making these sounds as we're

(38:20):
walking into that ridge, and we hear things coming back
from like a mile and it was always three times,
and it stops for a little while, and then he
would do it for thirty minutes.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
This was going on then turned into like an hour.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Yeah, it was probably almost an hour of that, and
everything got dead silent. These things were getting closer and closer.
The sounds were get way closer.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
Every time we hear those sounds.

Speaker 6 (38:50):
No, I reason you hear the sounds every time it
then it gives quiet.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Yeah, yeah, he's talking about in general. Once we hear
those sounds, it's like they've located, they've responded to us,
or it's kind of like they know our location whatever.
Then they come in and when it goes dead quiet,
they're there.

Speaker 6 (39:08):
There's almost feel like it starts back up again, but
they're closer.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Also, Yeah, he got the crap scared out of him.
Something was about I don't know, fifty feet seventy five
feet away from us and let out the loudest like
I don't know if it actually was a bart out
or if it was one of them. He swear it
was so loud it was so he turned and hugged

(39:37):
me and started crying. The hole I was like bell
for an hour and you've been talking to them out
in the woods. They came to see what you are,
and my phone went dead. I couldn't get any of
the audio from it. And then once I moved past
this area and got farther down the trail, nothing. As
soon as we started coming back and we went back
to that area again, it started up again. So we

(39:59):
were coming through their territory and they were pooping and
hollering at us, and we think they were following us
around quite a bit too, obviously. So that was that
spot and that was his little his little audio encounter.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Right.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Awesome, very cool. Just now, Calen, you get to go
out a whole lot with your dad.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Oh yeah, he's a proud member of the Mid Florida
Bigfoot research Team.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
Have usually come up like probably eighty five of the
time that.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
He goes with us a lot. We love having his
little sharp eyes man. He sees things we don't see.
What yesterday, Yeah, like two days ago or a couple
of days ago. We were out with the group and
grand Small and uh, we're walking back in and it's
almost dark and he's like, but yeah, Dad, there's a
hornet's nest right there. I'm like, here, there's yellow jackets
coming out on the ground and you see him the

(40:53):
little tiny hole with a bunch of yellow jackets coming
in out. I walked three feet away from it to
the side. I would walk right on it, you know.
And he saw it like good eyes.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
Good thing I saw because I would have walked right
on Chase we are.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
That's true, now, Kaylin. I heard that you got to
get up on stage and and talk in front of
a few people. What was that like? And how many
did you get to speak in front of?

Speaker 6 (41:18):
I didn't really think much about it, but you you
said how much I speak in front of?

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (41:24):
How many people? And and like how long did you
get to talk.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
About? Fifteen hundred to two thousand?

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (41:33):
It was at the Great Florida Bigfoot Conference. And cause Kaylin,
if anybody out there who doesn't know his story, Kaylin
had a rough start, and you never know it now
by the see hearing him and hear how clear he
talks and everything, you know, and there's really no signs
of what he suffered with. It's pretty much gone. But
Caylen was born to select I mutism, and that's on

(41:53):
the autism scale, and we had never even heard of it.
Caylen didn't talk until he was three and a half.
He was walking at eight months and he was running
at nine months, so his motor skills were off the chart.
But his he wouldn't talk. He'd hummed everything. He would
I love you, Kaylin.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
And he'd go m M.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
He would hum it until he was about three and
a half and he finally started speaking. Well, that was
one part of it. Then he would only speak to us,
to me and his mom and my mom. And we
realized that he won't talk to certain people, like you'd
introduce him to somebody and he'd just shy up and turn.
When that we found out he had selected mutism. It's
it's rare and actually daniel Lee Barnett suffers with the

(42:32):
same thing and that's how he got his start, and
he's the same thing. He overcame it. And then two
actually got to meet, so they're becoming friends. So be
on the lookout and might have some cool things coming
out for some hopefully to help with kids, you know,
especially on the spectrum side too. We want to get
more kids out in the woods, you know, have some
fun good for you.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
So that's inspiring. That's awesome. I love love hear and
stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
And I asked him, you want to get on stage
with me? He said, yeah, all right, come on, And
he was sitting there with me and I put the
micro in front of him. He just kind of put
his head down and talked to here. A little nervous,
you know, but he talked and made some sounds and
did some things. I'm like, all right, he's been with
me twice up on stage doing doing some stuff for
the conference.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
That's a r man.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Keep this hard to overcome, man.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
I can't imagine. I can't imagine, first off, what Kaylen
went through obviously, and you and his mom and your family,
and just the struggle, you know, the of watching a child,
you know, someone you love, that struggle. It just hats
off to y'all.

Speaker 7 (43:34):
Man.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
I don't know how you do it, but it looks
like everything is working out. He's very well spoken young man,
very clearly.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
Yeah, it's mind boggling to know, like if you would
have seen it, Like he literally didn't talk to one
of his teachers until he was in second, third, almost
third grade. He did not talk to a teacher. He
would go and shell himself if he if he was upset,
he lashed out with violence or through the table and
he'd get mad. Kids picked on him because he wouldn't
they knew that they would get away with stuff. So

(44:02):
the kids are mean, you know. And he went through
a lot and football. We started football. He wanted to
play football and he's good at the problem is he
wouldn't talk to the coach, so the coach I had
to go run up and down the field. He didn't
you know, he's learning football. He's, you know, six years old,
trying to play tackle football and like a little bobble
head out there running around. This doesn't know what he's doing.
And I'm trying to teach him. The coach can't communicate

(44:24):
with him because he would run away and come to me.
So football helped a lot too, Football in our group
really taking him out and being exposed to people and
a lot of different people, and he just came out
of the shell. It's like it all is in the past. Now.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Well, young man, you you are an inspiration, very very
cool the things that you're doing. Then I can't wait
to see what us to do. But hey, you're very welcome.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
Yeah, man, thank you. He's a great little guy and
he's a hell of a little researcher. Too. That's the
best part. He's a really a good little researcher.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Stay tuned for more. But the big foot were for
We'll be right back. Well, speaking of the research, I'm
going to pop like a couple of these print pictures.
You tell me what y'all found.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
Ah, Well, that was I think it roughly a seventeen
inch footprint that we found up in Washington State. We
got invited to come up last year to Washington State
to Medaling Falls for the conference and they wanted us
to talk. We went with David Chiley and so it
was me, our team and David Sheeley all went up

(45:35):
to talk about the skunk cap up in Medaling Falls.
And we were out walking on a like a little
logging road up the side of the mountain. We were
six thousand feet up. First day. We went out by
ourselves and we're not from out there, you know, we
don't know what the heck we're doing up in that area.
But we're hanging out walking down these roads looking for

(45:55):
footprints and stuff. And David's like, Mike, you got to
see this, and I'm like, come over. This was one
up the side of the mountain that was four and
a half feet up up and on the side of
the mountain like this, going straight up. The next print
was up, like I said, almost four and a half
four feet or so up and to the right. And
you can even see where that how his foot looked

(46:17):
like it shifted, like where the ball of his foot is.
It looks like it it shifted as he went up
and he put we put the next step, and I
couldn't reach that next step like it was too steep.
I couldn't get up to look at it. And but
I got a I got a three D scan of
this one.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Is that's not? Is that it? That's not it? Is it?

Speaker 3 (46:37):
Nope? Nope, that is so. The one on the right
is the Gray Gray's Harbor print that I got from
doctor Meldrum when when we met him. And the one
on the left is our footprint from Jennings State Forest
that we found. Marie found the first footprint and we
in the middle of the night. We were out there
our first night, and it had just got done pouring

(46:58):
down rain and she's like, my, come here, I found something.
And I come over and look. I'm like, oh my god.
And then fifty six inches ahead of that one was
another one and then fifty six inches ahead of that
one was another one, and that went and it went
like that for a quarter mile, quarter mile down the
middle of this sugar sand logging road back in the

(47:18):
middle of nowhere, up and up by Jacksonville, and it
went all the way down like a quarter mile, and
it disappeared at the creek. There's a creek out there.
It stopped at and disappeared coming up from the creek
the other way. We're smaller sized footprints coming back. We
just missed having really really good looking prints from this one.
They got washed out from the rain, so this is

(47:40):
what it looked like after the rain. But the size
comparison was mind boggling. When I scanned them and put
them together, I was blown away at how comparable. I mean,
that's one footprint from the West coast up and you know,
up in Washington State, and then that's from North Florida.
So to me, that kind of tells me that we've
got two very similar species or the same species in

(48:03):
different areas.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
That, yeah, yeah, I would agree with that. Let's uh,
let's see what we got here.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
That's his that's his magical moment. Yeah, he was, he was,
he was a lot younger. He's eleven now, I think
he was five.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Did you see the gator? Did you.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
What?

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Did you see the gator? Did you just add that in?

Speaker 4 (48:33):
I think I saw.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
We saw gators that day. We've seen gators that day.
He even drew the poop.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
That Uh y'all didn't take any samples of the poop
or anything, did you?

Speaker 3 (48:50):
No? Not that it was It was white, dried out
like it had been in the sun for like a month.
It was really real white, but it was like it was.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
That thick, and it was like just a pile, not
really how people say that.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Let's see, Yeah, there's that tree.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Yep, that's the that's that. That's what I'm talking about.
That's my dog with me, Mighty. We lost her a
couple of months ago. God God bless her little soul.
She was awesome. But that tree, that's the first thing
I found back there. She's her nose sniffed me over
to this spot. She kept falling a smell, and then
I saw that. I'm like, what the heck? Trees, Palm
trees don't just fall over like that. And we had

(49:34):
had no storms at that time of year either. When
I found this and that whole tree structure. You can't tell,
but it's three palm trees leaned over, and that arrow,
that support tree was skinned and it's supporting the weight
from going all the way down and letting that thing
tip over. See how it's got a nice shadowy area
behind it. Yeah, that wouldn't be there if that thing

(49:55):
laid down more. And on the other side, next to
that big tree right there, see the palmetto, and then
there's a tree right next to down on the other side,
there's another stick supporting it from the other way.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Okay, and it's all built out.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Underneath there like something I've been laying in there.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
That's what I mean. That's what it looks like. And
now that you mentioned it, I don't of course I
don't live in Florida or anywhere with palm trees, but
I don't think I've ever seen one blown over.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
It's not something that happens beside that root ball.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
It's weird. They don't just fall over too easy.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Damn. Yeah, that's that's that's something that you just don't
see all that often. All right, we are coming up
on the hour. We do have some questions for you,
So we'll go ahead. I'll jump into those and try
to get those done as quickly as we can. First flooring.

(50:53):
First couple are from Mike Wolf I think you well,
did you get any person photos of the prince? Yeah,
we we just shared those, so I kind of jumped
the gun. I'm putting that one up there again.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
From Mike, Well, there's there's there's actual photos I sent
you also of the nineteen inch footprints that I found
that correlated to that other story with the shaking tree. Okay,
there's those prints that are on there too.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Okay, yeah, I'll get those put up. But Mike is
also asking or saying not everyone experiences the infra sound.
What do you feel is the reason some do and
some don't? Great question.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
I don't think. I think it's like a defense mechanism. Seriously,
it's like they hit you with something. I think more
than one of them can hit you with it at
the same time too. I think they can. They can all.
I think that's kind of what entails. How much of
a zapp you get and yep, are you and you
want your face in there? I was like, sorry, so

(51:55):
so I've you been hit twice? I can tell you.
I got hit twice. The first one was the one
I told you, and then the second one. I was
out with the group and I took a write because
I kept following my nose, and I went into this
area and I got to hit again. It was like
I hit a wall. I couldn't walk no further and
again sick. It hit me faster that time. It didn't

(52:16):
have no delay. It was like within minute, a couple
of seconds. I came around I sitting on a log.
It was like I was having a heat stroke. It
was horrible, feeling dizzy, throwing up. The whole group like
they remember, like it was yesterday. It was really bad.
How sick I got? How quick?

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Okay, all right? Moving on to Troy. Some people spend
years in the woods and never see or hear anything.
Why do some people have multiple encounters in a few
months while others see anything. That's a million dollar question.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Man, you know, I've really come up with something. For one.
I think these things are super intelligent. I think they're
a lot more like us than they are, more like animal.
And I think they feel things too, And I think
they're more inclined to be more curious of you. If

(53:08):
you're with children for one or with women, or if
you're by yourself, by yourself is the key or the
only time I've had anything happen really legit like that
has been by myself or me and him alone, that's it.
And me and him alone. We haven't had a sighting together. Well,
he had his, but I didn't see him that day.
I had something helping afterwards. But yeah, here's a bigger right.

(53:33):
But I think that's what it is, and there's another
part of the true. I truly believe I'm severely ADHD.
I have really bad ADHD. He does too, and he's
so we're kind of in that realm. And I swear
your brain works different when you're ADHD, Like you pick
up on things more clear, You're sensitive, the sound, smells,
everything more sensitive. And I think that has something to

(53:56):
do with it. I have a lot of friends of
mine that are ADHD that have had experience with these things,
and it's pretty ironic. I think there's something to do
with it. Like your brain is a little different, you know,
your wire just a little bit different. It's awesome some
way that's not.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Yeah, I mean I've never considered that, but I think
it could be very possible. I don't know why not right?
Also again from Troy, have you collected any hair or
scat samples for DNA studies?

Speaker 4 (54:27):
What me?

Speaker 2 (54:28):
You? And you?

Speaker 6 (54:30):
Oh yeah, okay, so yes we had my God, so
we did collect some hair. So my dad has this
gifting spot out in his his little spot. We go,
so he talked about in the neighborhood, and we they

(54:50):
love receeds. We found out like they go crazy for them.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
Every time you put them out.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
They're mostly gone times before we even get back and leave. Yeah,
they're already gone.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
That was me.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
Well, I'm not gonna cut you off, but a run
out of time. So but we we it. Took his
little buddy back there and I was going to check
on it, and he wanted him to come out too,
and we went checked on it, and sure enough, the
resis were gone. We found him about fifteen twenty feet
away or so, maybe a little farther away from the
gifting spot. They were open. It looked like they've been
porn open. Right in the middle of them. What is

(55:29):
there in the middle of the two rappers.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
Like a three and a half inch hair No.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Talking about the footprint, there's a right in the middle,
and then I pick up one of the rappers and
I'm looking. There's a black hair that's about three inch
long on that wrapper. And that was one of the
first really good hairs that hair samples that we got.
But we do. We've had other samples we've gotten off
of castings too, from some of our castings, I yeah them,

(55:58):
and I have taking some stool samples. One time I
shared one stool sample with Stacy Brown and he had
it looked at but not never really came back. It's
like it kind of disappeared. He never really heard much
about it. It was like it was just vanished. But
I yeah, exactly ironically.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Right, yeah, all right. The last two that I have
saved are more comments than questions, but I thought they
were really cool and I wanted to share them. Mister
Mike Wolf. Cool to see the next generation of squatchers
on the show. So thank you, Kaitleen. Very cool for
you to hang out with this tonight, buddy, Thank you Mike.

(56:36):
Last week, my good buddy, mister Kevin Jones. I do
not doubt these two at all. The excitement, the eyes,
even seeing the fear with some of these stories. If
they're making this up, they're really really accomplished at fooling people.
Mike Is. I mean, Kevin is former law enforcement, good
at reading people. And thanks Devin. He's a very good

(56:59):
friend of mine and and he will hit me up
after shows and tell me that that guy was full
of crap and stuff like that. But I think it's
pretty cool that statement, so I wanted to share it.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
With you know, it's like this. You know, I don't
gain anything from coming on here and trying to make
myself sound cool with stories.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
You know.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
What we're trying to do is I never even realized
that I would be part of this trip, in this
journey like we were, you know, and it's awesome. And
what we want to do in the long run is
our group has really become a good staple for Florida,
and we want to represent Florida. We want to protect
what these things are. We want to protect their family
groups and the woods and the forest that they're in, like,

(57:38):
we want to protect that property. Florida is just it's
crazy how much is going on. These things are forced,
they're being forced into little, tiny, little narrow areas and
if you know what to look for, that's what I did.
I just took not logic, and I followed these corridors
to where they got the most narraw and that's where
I started finding things. I went in and I found

(57:58):
if something's going to come through here, it's got to
be in these areas. It's got to move through here.
And that's what happened. And I got lucky and I
started really using that and found a lot of really
amazing places.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Yeah, I mean, and that can kind of be said
to anywhere. It's a belief that I have. The reason
that we're seeing these things more the last twenty years
is because we just keep going further and further into
their territory, building more and more houses, subdivisions, these luxury
cabins out in the middle of nowhere. We're taking their
land away.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Yeah, I know. Like Thomas Thomas Sewood changed my life.
We got to meet him and that was one of
the coolest people I ever met in my life. And
he did a little show for us. I even got
to sign the foot. We got to sign the foot
that's in his museum and he was so cool. But
he told me things that I brought with me. Now,
He's like, why would you go into someone's backyard, right

(58:52):
into their house, walk in and not tell him you're coming,
not knock, not anything, just go in. He is stupid.
White people go in around making knocks on trees. Knocks
on trees. That's them telling you to get the hell out.
He don't want you there for whacking a tree. What
am trying to scare you? Get out? And I'm like
that hoind of makes sense?

Speaker 1 (59:11):
It does. And somebody walks in your back door that
you don't know, I mean exactly to shoot and kill them?
Why yes, should they not protect their home? You know?

Speaker 3 (59:22):
You know these things, these things could have taken me
out at any moment anytime I've been back there, I
know when they're following me. I started, and more and
more I went. I got to it was an obsession
for a while, and and it really helped me go
through my separation with his mom. And it was like
something that became a major part of my life after work.
Every day, I visit the spot every day, this area,

(59:44):
and I new things every day, new sounds, new, different,
every day, something new. We were learning. We learned when
they would do sounds, why they did them, which you
know we come into another show sometime. Maybe I can
tell you some other things we figured out.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
You know, Yeah, absolutely, I was about to get that
because you didn't even get to finish your encounters, and uh,
we definitely need you back for that. I have other
questions that we didn't get to. Little Man brought up
the gifting area. I wanted to talk about that. That's
something we'll talk about next time. But yeah, I definitely
I'll hit you up after the show tonight and we'll
try to set something up. But guys, thank y'all so

(01:00:20):
much for taking the time to come and hang out. Caitlen.
It was a pleasure meeting you, buddy.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Thank you, yeah, yeah, thank thank you so much for
having us, and thank you everybody for all the cond
comments that really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
All right, guys, you enjoy the rest of your evening
and we will be in touch soon.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
All right, thank you so much.

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Speaker 7 (01:01:58):
Foot of the Woods, the pine trees, sway, shadows long
at end of day, Bigfoot's call on the whispering breathe,
Secrets kept by ancient trees, dog Man house, being, moon

(01:02:22):
echoes in the silent dune.

Speaker 4 (01:02:27):
Tracks.

Speaker 7 (01:02:27):
We fine, but answers none. A hunt for truth, that's
just begune. We're searching past the fire light, four creatures

(01:02:51):
hidden out of sight in the forest heart, where shadows lay,
seeking seek creats in the twilight through the fall a
shape did gly skin Walker. I show wide legends of Oh,

(01:03:19):
we chase to night in the dark, our lanterns bright
by the creek, quailed water spill whispers rye, the winds
chill fullest deep, and tails on toll in this land

(01:03:42):
the myths of old. We're searching past the fire light
full creature sures hidden out of sight, in the forest heart,

(01:04:04):
where shadows lay, seeking sea chrits in the twilight break