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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Missus Orton Wells speaking from London. The Black Museums through
a positary of death. Yeah, it's here in the Grimstone
start Armatam which houses Scotland Yard, is a warehouse of homicide.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
For everyday objects.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
A glass, ash tray, porcelain face, an electric fan, all
are touched by merger.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
There's a piece of an iron chain.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
It's a familiar object, might be a bar on a
gravel driveway. It might rest in an emergency truck, a
use and throwing an automobile mid mice.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
So in this case, the cause of says, remember this.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Was this hey, of course inspection You knew, didn't you.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
We just about then closed the file on the tail
killing this you told me. It's just as well as
those statutes.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Of limitations on murder. And today that shain can be
seen in its place in the Black Museum.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
From the annals of the Criminal Investigation Department of the
London Police, we bring you the dramatic stories of the
crimes recorded by the objects in Scotland Yards Gallery of Death,
the Black Museum.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Oh here we are a Black Museum's couple of yards.
Museum of murder. Hairline is that.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
It is different quite different from 'em. Yeah, him stones
marked only the mons beneath which dust has returned to dust.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
But these white cars with the neat.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Black lettering designates the means of death. And in every
case it can ulu a hu chane.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Chaine.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I want you associated with the woods with the sound
shade shift, some angers, slavery, fires and prisons, maybe, oh
finny with the younger of twenty.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Three seated in the hide share of their officers. How
Scott from the eye. I'm sorry to ask you to
repeat that statement, Miss Tomlinson. You'll understand that I find
brother hard to believe you feel the same way, don't.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
You sudden I did that, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I do.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I rather expected your rooms in modern time. If I do,
and you have no explanation of these uh phenomenon. If
I heard, I wouldn't be here, inspector. You must believe
me that it ghost. And I think you don't.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Mean, Miss Thomlinson.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
But I'm noises in the night, and they fight UNEs
and the voice, my father's voice. He wants me out
of the house.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Well, why should you want me out when you missed
it to me, when you were so happy there together,
just you and my father.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Mother died when I was very little.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
I hardly knew her mother, only.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Myself in the house.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Answered, I see does this.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Goest by any jus recal chabins.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
It's a super son.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
And kind did a good inspect at his own ideas
about this ghost. In fact, after John Thominson left his office,
interesting person in ghosts littles out hair in good looking
air as a sagan.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
All that death naga.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
But it might be possible that someone else is or
in their.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Property, perhaps well looking to a person. If we don't,
we all got the young lady will get back.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Until we do. Let me have another person of morning.
The morning was eight hours away.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Sudge and Preston walked up the christ Street in the
London suburb where he child stood alone in his own
plot of ground.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Even in the innattequate.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Light in the streets anser side, you could see something
of well kept.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Laws and sis.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
He turned into the concrete driveway, studied two garages and
tens of back gardens, hiding his way to a screen
back porch or a light show.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Briefly she changed SERGEANTY, thank you for the light my torch.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
I didn't want you to try the home house this way,
I don't we'd ringing outstairs room.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Whatever you seek business, it's your guys.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yes, and.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
What's stairs this way?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
The sergeant himself rather than saw in the darkness, and
it was a large house. Seeing these several rooms on
the ground floor and upstairs. They passed three closed doors
before they end up the sitting room, which kind they
extended before went to the building.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
That's the comfortable chair with the father.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Thank you, miss, did you?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (05:58):
No?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Thank you at all? Smooth?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Your fine man was of course, when does he come midnight?
Speaker 6 (06:09):
Any time after?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I understand it? He really? I know it? Now wait wait.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Nothing, think he'll come to.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Night, miss, I'll say he starting juty starting.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Non believe h.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Hear me?
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Start how can I help you?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Miss?
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (06:56):
So me.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Okay, and you hear me. It's just it's something slash.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Joy.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I can't dress, I can't.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Not dwaving.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
I know.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
In a.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Oh, it's human, it's gootably.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
That the sergeant really, because it has to be human.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Does into a sound, Sergeant, have you ever heard of
the researchers of colon oil and dozens of others?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
No, you'll believe me, sergeant there's something like my father,
who oh.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
What call me?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Tell me? All right?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Then?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I don't looking right now?
Speaker 6 (08:04):
She will it won't come back until tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I see only once to night.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Yes, don't you want to watch the house or anything?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Well, surgin, don't you? If this thing is human?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
And after this entry, sergeant.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
That is?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Whoever, whatever it is will be gone.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Maybe tomorrow night you can report this to the instructor.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Please, yes, yes, of course. Uh shouldn't you go to
a hotel for a whileness? Still?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
This is good enough. I thought it did a way
to go stargeant. But well, unlike my own moment, and
if it is my father, she will hun me. She'll
never do that. You know very certain of that, aren't you?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Young lady? Andrew? Get confused? If you believe that, why worry?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Why go to the police in the yard?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Why be frightened of a fatherly ghosts?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
And under?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Sergeantists said?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I knew, I knew, but I wanted someone else to
hear him. I was scared.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
Maybe I was imagining things I didn't like, Sergeant, I
expect unceased in my own house.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
And so you send the sergeant on his way to
sergeant who walked to a stretch the house you're taking
down the backstairs and out the back door. Jone, you
go upstairs alone to your own room, decided to undress.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Talk to yourself, give yourself courage.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Stop it.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
You don't Tom stop it here something you get a
praid of.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
You're not great crazy the night coolo, So go let
me m always on. Go away.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
It's f I have to hid to.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
I don't want to its spots pards some my honest month,
I have to a hid to.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Lease bars.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Away, queezy, don't get me back.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
You comme comme. Yeah, I'm John down sticks.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Somebody else. I waited about this, thought he might come next.
Let's just slee now, see miss you don't.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Getting straight on a stick, and I'm going straight to
the ins like I.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Looks at it.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
It's not a bit.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Who would like the looks of it?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Say he didn't believe in ghosts. Of course, Inspector Or
didn't believe in ghosts. Standing designed Joan in her room
at the hospital. He was quite explicit. It's a mighty
corporeal Ghostmas, you're twist his ankle.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
That was no accident.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
A stare traid was formed through I understand how.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Difficulty with cross cut sous ms Tyson.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Do you have any next with Kim, that is, anyone
who might benefit if anything happened to you?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Hm hm Ely was some second company I haven't seen
any years in London.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
And there was Larry Coke, he lived in in Manchester.
I had a note after father died. And Jenny Hennessy
she lived in Norwich. Yes, I think and hear this
cost on costs. How to speak of her?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
She's a school teacher.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Agnowledged a school in brisk But protection possibly said, want to.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Ask the way of course?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Not?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I see?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Then how do you account for this? Miss Rogers?
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Yes, here it is.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
It's sweet in the cellar of your house, under some
brea bags, right near.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
The furnace, Miss summonson the furnace.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
With its tin ducks to the registers in the bouse.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Many a youngster use these echoing ducks to imitate a ghost,
or to overhear what was going on in another room.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Right in the forms Thominson, this is a mighty corporeal
ghost he saw through stairs. He uses hot air ducks
to amplify his voice, and he carries his own founder kicks,
I don't like.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
This any more than certain Prestons does this.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I don't like it at fall.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
And today that same change can be seen in the
Black Museum, a piece of iron chain, the how the
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adducts to carry a voice through a lonely house. No
ghost this but someone of the plans and the motive.
Specterno had no illusions about ghosts, and certain on about
the dangers to John Thomlinson.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
All right, pressed them, let's get to work on this.
That's very god in the sight. The girl says, there's
no possibility. Where was a will?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Sergeant there's a way to start someone thinking the girl
was wrong about her ghost, so he can be wrong.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
About her Coppins. Get the wires out.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Of prisonm and I want an unobclusive guard on the
house twenty four hours a day.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
You've got the names of those people you mentioned.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Simple routine telo type messages, advis earliest convenience, and the
advice came so conveniently early that inspector how who sat
at his desk with the three of city out paper
before him, the marxistargeant Preston, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Sergeant Coincidencer coincidence my foot. All three dead, there are
a few days of each other.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
All three filed unresolved. Help July six, Hennessey July eighth.
Can't say July twelve, such undone, No circumstancesy that girl.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
To be permitted to leave the hospital.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
That's in order to say, sir, how long inspect June?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Shall I get back?
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Master?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Don't look blank, Preston.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Just look at these telegraph replies.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I'm making a cooked two of these three cities, Manchester,
Knowledge and Bristol.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Obviously I need facts there seem to be quite a fuel.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Facts in Manchester, Knowledge and Bristol, England isn't so very large,
you see in the trains of facts in Manchester.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I understand, Buzz visit the pilk case was in your hem?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Islt's correct?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Her?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
How far did you get? No motive?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Nothing, Just this man telt walking home alone on a
July night toward eleven, a dark street, a carving knife
in his back.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
A night trains and knowledge.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Another police headquarter is another detective anxious to cooperate.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Henrices in sector.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
All we have on the Hennessy case sell there.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Busses was some hit and rum driver.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I kicked the scene myself.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Hennessy was hit on the sidewalk. Looked as if some drunk.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Had driven right up on the walk and pressed the man.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Against the building wall. And saw a pattern emerges.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Two men die quite unexpectedly, but in this case no clues,
no indication that there was purpose or motive. After the
third man died quite naturally in London, and his daughter
was a victim of deliberate fights, and all those involved
were related to each other.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Where as a pattern emerges continued in Bristol.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
All right, half of it?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
What have you won?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
The castairs woman a school teacher.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I believe he was yes, retired, quiet as the usual
until he took some headache craimative and I sae July
the twelve.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Unfortunately for her.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Someone who put stick thing in the bottle.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I know that kind of death master him anything else.
Some prints on the bottle, not hers.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
She has matched them with her own when she took
the bottle out of the Midston cabinet.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Her landladies said she had a visitor the day before,
but she usually did former students.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
All that sort of thing. Mind, If I go over
and see that lam lady and not at all.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
The name is Ross.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I helped yourself quite at thought.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Of that woman was a semi detached villa with a
vacancy sign on the door. Missus Ross was indeed quite
as talking and inspect.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
The whole leave talk at least fifteen years of a
wonderful woman.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
Inspected, So many of our students come to see it,
even after she retired. The kind of teacher at those
times nowadays.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Exactly what you mean.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
And she was so happy that day, what with her
cousin being here the day before and all the cousins years.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I remember it clearly.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
She called she was going out for a bit of
cakes for tea, now that her cousin Michael Staud had
comes to see her.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
A new name, another cousin, one Michael Stroud, Catherine inspector
def Ley.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
You don't happen to know where.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
He was from now I'm from London. I have the
address found an envelope in.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
The waist paperbaster while I was cheering.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Out the poor Things room and the proof slow shirt
that was so busy with their bustle and dusting everything
for fingerprint station.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yes, yes, yes, of course, sir. Now Missus Ross may
I have that address, Priest.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
That is a tematite message travels much faster than a
train from Bristol to London. By the time the Inspector
reached his office, Sergeant Preston was waiting with the answer
where you've been there, sir? A Michael Stard had a
flat at the address, but he's moved and left no
forward in address.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
When did he move out?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
July thirteen, Sir, the day after the Carstairs woman died.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
When mcquarre is escaping.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
What do you do w reach your candor? Its close
up as the gaps in the situation.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Trying to develop motives and opportunity, the Inspector permented Johan
Thomlinson to leave the hospital and to proceed in his
company to the office of the Solicitor.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Now sit down, Joan and you, Inspector.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Mister Tommy dam.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I gotta something as a mess, mister Thomas, we have
reason to believe that three people have died because of
Miss Thomlinson's intellison, and that her own life is.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
In danger, and that unbelievable, Sir.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
It usually is. However, the three who are dead all
were all second cousins, and Miss.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Thomason her next to Tim what fear here to find out?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
He is does the will under which he inherits her property,
state of whom.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
That property divides in the event of her death, m
not exactly. That is, if he dies in tested, the
property under.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
The law would pass to a next of kin an
equal shares, of course, and mister Thomas, with all her
second cousin dead, a third cousin.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Would be next in line. Correct, absolutely, of course, nor
of no such relatives, sir, unfortunately say we do.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
His name is Michael Stroud. He's say about the presence.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Are unknown and motive presence very definitely present.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Opportunity obvious and seized at least three times in Manchester,
Nut and Bristol. As to the next morn, the inspector
outlined a plan.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Briefly, Miss Tomlinson, do you still believe in ghosts?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Not anymore?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Very well? Would you be afraid to stay in your
house alone?
Speaker 6 (21:25):
I see, I'm to be the biggest cheese in the.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Tread corect Absolutely correct.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Very well? Where do we begin?
Speaker 1 (21:38):
When they began that night, Joan left the hospital, return
to her house, to the memories, to the now silent doubts,
to the.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Still chiming clock. The first night was uneventful. Others followed
by dead Jones, slip back into a normal everyday routine.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
And a girl in her home with a servant during
the day alone at night, a ghost, the three deaths
and three cities. The inspects her began to take on aspects.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Of a dream.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Reality was coming home after leaving the city, going upstairs,
listening to the little clock, protecting to sleep, indulging a
little habit of talking of the silver.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
There's nothing to worry about, weirdly nothing. He's gone away.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
H the country. Maybe I forget Michael strut Joy, forget
the whole sne.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Oh Joan healing well and.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Get out.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
That won't work, Jenny, you know I'm your cousin.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I come to call.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Okay, I've never sung before in my life.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
And now that you have seen me, what else is
there to live for?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
You couldn't live away?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Oh yes I could, I can.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I will. You'll be a lovely.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Suici idea carbon monoxide from the register, from the furnace
or maybe yes, maybe they'll call it accidental, you.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Say, if he wasn't around to seize me tonight?
Speaker 6 (23:44):
Was he?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
And I did he?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Good?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
At hidies more.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I'll never tie me to cousin Laddie or cousin Jerry
or cousin.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Then now that's their.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Worry, not mine, I said John.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
In that chair, I will sit.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Down and have it planned that the kit CHOHn, you'll
sit down, I'll tie you in that chair, shut the windows,
the ball, turn on the heap. You'll be gagged too.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I forgot to mention that you'll die. I'll come back,
put you on the ball. You can't take him in
chard sidebody, han't up.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
On the beach.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
I don't forgot your.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Thanks yourself forgetting his gunaways nice three angle, Sargeant. You
are right the Summerson. He is a very corporeal ghost, jeez, definitely,
and I believe his corporeal fingerprints will match those in
the handle of a very corporeal life in Manchester, a
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stealing wheeling knowledge, a buckle in Bristol, and a certain
shame in the.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Position of Scotland. John, have you ever heard of a
ghost fingerprints? No, neither of I. But that chain isn't ghostly.
You can see it today in the Black Museum.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Orson Welles will be back with you in just a moment.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
It was close a traditional time. One morning, in the
usual manner.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Michael Stroud, at the hands of the Crown, became forever
an incorporeal ghost, and the chain remains in a.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Usual place in Scottland. And now I'm going I'll tell
you another story of the Black Museum. I think it's
always the