Rick Wilson

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome too Fast Politics.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Ellie drawn Fast.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Rick Wilson, what's going on again? I did three hours
of live television on MSNBC and I'm back next weekend
on the weekend Fume time. If any show still has table,
If you still have table, you should watch me on it. Hello, friend,

(00:26):
nothing's happened this week.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's been a very boring, quiet weekend and you know, nothing,
nothing at all is going on with the President of
the United States telling his deputy attorney general to pardon
a woman who ran the largest child trafficking sex pedophile
rapering in modern history. Other than that, it's pretty quiet.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
So let's talk about Tom Planche meeting with Gillay and Maxwell,
because I think here's what I want to talk about.
So I actually talked to when I was doing this
MSNBC show last night the week in prime time, which
you can watch this weekend. When I was doing it,
we were talking to this woman who has been a
DA and she was saying, I said, is Todd Blanche

(01:09):
alone with Glaane And she said absolutely not. She said
there's somebody there taking notes, There's somebody else. So the
question is, so he's not alone, So even if he's
with his people. He still cannot say things like the
boss knows you didn't see anything, right, so we hope.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Now what we don't know? And I think it would
leak if Blanche said everybody else, I need the room
just me and right right for sure, for sure, I
think I think that would leak. I do think though,
we've got to keep on our eye on the fact
that Gelaane's attorney and Todd Blanche are friends. They have
a friendship, a relationship, however you want to call it.

(01:52):
They've been on podcasts together, all this other stuff. There
is a link between these two guys. So I think
we need to keep you know that, that is how
the I think the communication would happen. Todd would say
to him, hey, buddy.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
You know right, So that but the but here's the
thing about this. You've opened a conspiracy theory, right, You've
opened the door to a huge conspiracy theory. The people
all his people want is information. So you're going to
do what You're gonna have Glaine testify it was.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Well, she's gonna I think that the fix that they're
working up is she's gonna say, oh, of course it
was George Soros and Bill Clinton and Bill Gates and
and Hillary Clinton and John Podessa. She's gonna she will.
This is a woman who is not raised to live in.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Prison, right, no question you who would be in She's
right up here. Jesse has turned on his camera, wh
give us a look which is like a look of horror.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
That's the that's the Jesse, what the hell look?

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Listen to me. I'm happy to if I if it's
my time to go to prison, I will. I will
go to prison and not like it.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
But but will you shenk a bitch?

Speaker 1 (03:11):
I cannot, I can't. I cannot comment. But so here's so,
here's a question. So as someone who occupies the Earth's
one still is one of the very few people who
still live on the actual earth where things make some sense,
assemblance of sense. Her coming out and being like I've
gotten a pardon everyone, that strikes me as not. I

(03:35):
just don't understand how that will get rid of conspiracy theories.
Won't that it.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Actually will, it actually will make it worse. And I
have a theory of the case mine. I'm curious what
you think about this. I think there's a part of Trump.
He says. Okay, if Julane comes out and says, oh,
it was Bill Clinton. Oh is this democrat that Democrat,
this Democrat that Democrat. I think Trump thinks that will
be enough for his people. I don't think that's the

(04:00):
case anymore. I don't think I don't think they're gonna
buy it and say, oh, well, it's all better now,
A good thing. We released a woman who ran a
pedophile ring for prison. I don't think he has that
much latitude with them anymore.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
So that's the question. And also Trump doesn't want this
to keep going, so doing more like I think the
grand jury testimony idea was that what would happen is
he would say, let's release the grand jury testimony, and

(04:34):
everyone knew it wouldn't be released, so they'd be like, oh,
we tried to get the grand jury testimony released, but
we couldn't get a release. But I'm not convinced that
that even that just extended the news cycle.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
He has made every wrong move on this molly whatever
mojo Trump has had for ten years that left all
of us going, ah, shit, he changed the news cycle again.
It's not working now. And he even though he's had
to run away to Skland for the weekend to try
to avoid it. He's still getting hit in Scotland on it,
He's still taking damage. He can't stop the the he

(05:09):
can't stop the drip, drip drip, even if he puts
Julane in front of the camera and she said, oh no, Donald,
Donald barely knew Jeffrey. He went to one party and
left early.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Right. The people to believe flight logs you have the
does that if you have the flight logs, how does
that work? So Jeffrey never knew him except for these
flight logs, right.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
And they were they barely. They ran into each other
in New York occasionally. But here's the thing. First off,
I think even our terrified media right once this breaks,
will chase her down like a wild animal. The answer
to this story will not just be I have no
further comment, right, you will never have a day of peace,
no matter what. I also think, and I heard over

(05:54):
the weekend that one major outlet is is looking at
going back and doing stuff on the victims finally, which I.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
There are more than two hundred victims.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, which I think that right. I think the numbers
around two hundred. And I think if they do that,
that also extends the story because you know what, Donald
Trump will do. Oh, I barely knew her. She was
a crazy slut or whatever. It's gonna be eging Carol
only worse.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
But even you know, just when Lawrence read the testimony
of these girls who were groomed at fourteen and dismissed
at eighteen because they were too old, it was pretty
jarring to hear that. I mean, I think of myself
as pretty cynical, and I was like, whoa, you know.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
That that was a That was a hell of a
piece too, by the way, Yeah yeah, but it is it,
I mean, and that is really all the sort of haha,
we got you Maga flipping c aside. They really are
having to ask themselves a question right now, and it
is am I okay as a MAGA supporter, as a
Trump supporter, or am I okay with Donald Trump to

(07:03):
protect his political position freeing a woman who sexually abused
and who groomed and provided underage girls for rape because
that's what it was to Jeffrey Epstein and whoever else
is on the list with the I mean, I think
a lot of them are having a I mean, I

(07:23):
don't know if it's their first moral quandary, but it
is a moral quandary for a lot of them where
they are, and the more prominent ones I think are
also processing this like there's going to be a post
Trump era? Am I going to die on the hill
of defending Donald Trump's friend Gawaine Maxwell? Right? He is
apparently well.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Greg Kelly has a complicated relationship with being accused of things.
As you and I both know, it does very much
that Greg Kelly might in fact have some problems, you.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Know, yeah, to put it my out, yeah, have.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Some problems understanding why sexual abuse.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Is bad to yes, to put.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
It very mildly. I wonder if we could talk about
kind of what the calculus here is for Trump world.
We have scandals coming from different parts. It feels like
a leaky boat. So we have hegxet scandals, right, we

(08:27):
have more stuff leaking about the signal chat. We have
some we definitely see.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
The poligraph scandal, right.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
So there's a polygraph scandal where he's polygraphing people for
leaking to the press. There's this other scandal where he
is sending classified information on signal. There's so he's he's
moving people around. He hired someone from DOGE, he fired them,
he you know, there's a lot of like really, I.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Think if the Epstein story had not broken, Hexas would
be gone. Yeah. I know, I know that that Trump
still has a warm spot in his heart for Pete
Hexith because he's good on TV. But I I think
the handful of semi quasi dimmy Himmy responsible adults in
the White House recognize this guy is a disaster. And

(09:20):
I was told by a foreign diplomatic person about a
month ago that he is not welcome. They don't want
to talk to him. Yeah, I mean he's unprofessionally, he's dangerous,
and he's weird. Now I think the d O jay
is scandal is. I think we are days, not weeks

(09:40):
from Bongo leaving either being thrown off or fired or
leaving on his own two feet.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
And the reason that you say that, I think is
because of the post last night where said I have
seen things this is right, And so that means if
he's seen things that scarred his soul, that means that
he is saying that the admin is not showing the
Maga crowd everything they want to see that's right, And

(10:10):
that means that eventually somebody is going to have to
go because either Trump gets rid of Bongino or Bongino
gets rid of Bondi.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
I have heard that Pam Bondi has cashed all her
chips in with all of her various patrons. Brian Boward,
very influential lobbyist in Trump universe, has been apparently like,
I will die on this hill, sir. She must not
be thrown out. It would be the worst thing for us. YadA, YadA, YadA,
But it is. I think she's in trouble though. I
think I think she's in trouble. But the basic the

(10:44):
bas is never going to give up on her. They're
never gonna stop dating her.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
But if you have a choice between Bongino Bondi, is
it just does anything Trump wants. Bongino does not. He's
a wild barn right, So if you have a choice
between Bongino and bond he's really tight with the guitari.
Is Bondi would be the play in my mind?

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, yeah, yep. But the problem I think that they're
having about firing Bongino is they understand that Dan Bongino
has a notoriously poor impulse control over his temper and
his tongue, right, and while he's trying to play the
role of I am now a federal official at a

(11:27):
senior level in the FBI. Yeah, they also remember he's
a lunatic, batshit crazy short fuse podcast bro. Yeah, And
so he's going to be out there, I think as
something that worries them. They're probably worried that if they
fire him, and it's not like Dan has to spend

(11:47):
more time with his family, it'll be that that he
could pop and say some crazy shit. And again, going
back to what we talked about last week, this whole
pedophile thing in their heads, this belief that it's the
Rosetta stone to breaking the Democrats. There the Democrats are
all eating children, blah blah blah, all that crap. Yeah,
I think Bongino believes that shit.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
You still think he does.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
I still think he does. I think he believes it still,
and he knows there's a critical mass of maga types
out there who either if they don't fully believe it,
they believe it enough that it's causing them great anxiety
now because of the cognitive dissonance of Trump's defense of
Maxwell and the Trump's cover up of this, of this story.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
And that's the ten percent, that's ten percent of Trump's
base that from Britio says is qan on adjacent.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yes, and they those people have a there's a big
disadvantage for the Republican Party broadly with those people. They
were low propensity voters before Trump, right, they've been high
perpensity voters since Trump. And if they if it, if
their relationship with Trump is broken somehow, I think they've

(13:04):
become low pro pensity voters again, and they just throw
their hands up and say, screw it, I'm not going
to do this. They all lie to me. The elites
even got to Trump. But you know, Elon Musk has
got a new party for him, and they could they
could absolutely help the pedophiles in the America Party with
Elon Musk.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, I'm sure the America Party is going to do
great because really just killed it with everything he's done
since Tesla, it's going to be fantastic when he Veer's
non rocket the stuff he does is just beyond like
you stick to the rockets.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Build the fucking rockets. Just build the Falcon rockets. They
do great. Don't try anything complicated or with too many.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Moving parts, right exactly, So Congress is out, the Senate,
it's still in. I think they're going out soon for
the August recess. We'll come back and we will have
elections in New Jersey and the state you are in
right now. What state are you in right now?

Speaker 2 (13:59):
A great state of Virginia. The common tell.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Us tell us what's happening in the Commonwealth.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Well, look there, the governor's race statewides, and the and
the legislative races in Virginia and New Jersey happened in
the off year, the off cycle. So this year we
have potential to get into Virginia and start to roll
some real numbers up in the legislative side. We also
have a really consequential governor governor's race because Abigail span

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Burder is right now blowing the doors off this race,
raising money, running a perfect campaign against the woman.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Oh yeah, because she's one of my favorites.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
There's an African American woman named Winsome Seers, right, and
Winsome Seers is one of these people.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
For whom guns loves Jesus, for.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Whom, yes, for whom the Lord speaks to her very
directly and has told her that Donald Trump is the way,
the hope, the light, and the faith, and that is
really burned her campaign. She tried to get a little
less Trump adjacent, and her own people devoured her. The
BOGA movement just tore her apart. And right now they're

(15:06):
kind of stuck with her because she's Chris Losaveta's client,
and los Avita is apparently in a raging fury all
day every day. They can't find anything to get a
hold of it. Spanberger on in terms of oppo or
policy stuff, Spamberger is not taking the bait there. I mean,

(15:27):
they're the Republican Parties. Thing now is oh, what about
trans athletes? And Spamberger is like, what about cost of living?

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Can I ask you a question? Because I want to
talk about this. So Megan Calay, in her infinite wisdom,
had on's very angry, She's very angry. She had on, Uh,
this guy Ram Emmanuel, perhaps you've heard of him, And
she said Rom, She said, Rom, can can a man

(15:55):
become a woman? And Rom said, no, no question. If
I had been asked that, you know what, I would
have said, what it's none of my fucking business.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Right, I don't. I don't care. And by the way,
how's your homeowners insurance? How's your how's your health?

Speaker 1 (16:13):
But it's also like, why do you care what other.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
People do with them? So, actually, I've come up with
a new, a new line on this. I was with
a group of Democrats yesterday and give them a little
bit of communications advice, and a candidate said to me,
our person said to me, an advisor, not a candidate,
said to me, Okay, so what happens when they hit
my my my client with trans bathrooms all that shit?

(16:39):
I said, listen, you just looked them straight in the eye,
and you say you seem really interested in trans people.
I don't want to see your browser history. I don't
care what you're interested in that. You're obsessed with that,
that's weird to me. But I'm obsessed with with lowering
the cost of living, making sure people can afford housing
and healthcare and get jobs. But if you want to

(16:59):
keep talking about that stuff, I'm sure there are websites
about trans people that would that you can spend a
lot of time on.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
I mean, it just seems like why, like, it's other
people's bodies. It's other people's if you're gay, if you're straight,
if you're this, or you're that, I don't care. It
has nothing to do with me. What other people do
in their bedrooms.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
The idea of the trans thing as the culture war
issue of our time. The Republicans one in part using
that issue to motivate African American, Hispanic and young white
men away from the Democrats because that is an issue
they care about in some weird sort of visceral level.
But the problem with the issue for the Republicans is

(17:37):
they are now playing what I call the one note flute.
After a while, nobody's like, everybody's like, Okay, yeah, I
get you're obsessed with trans people. Whatever your problem is,
that's your problem. I'm obsessed with you know, You've got
to bridge out of this because they really would like
to do. You know, the Democrats are all trans Antifa
or whatever the crazy shit of the day is.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Rick Wilson, Molly John Fast.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
You know, I will