Rick Wilson

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, everybody, welcome back. I'm Rick Wilson to Against All Enemies.
I am delighted to be joined today by Vicky Ward,
who is a writer who has delved into two of
the most pressing family dynamics that you will you will
hear about in the Trump universe. Julane Maxwell, who did
the amazing series Chasing Julaine and also wrote the definitive

(00:24):
book about the Kushners Jared at All, which I think
was the last time we talked was about that book.
But but Vicky, thank you for coming on today. I
want to start out by asking, we just learned today
that that that Maxwell has been moved from a prison
in Florida to a prison in Texas, and there's a

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thought rumbling around that this is preparatory to her either
having her sentence commuted or receiving a pardon. Should we
release Julie Maxwell from prison, knowing what you know about.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Her, Absolutely not, as that's a very simple one.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
You know, there's been a talk rumbling on the right
in the last week or so that Glen Maxwell was,
you know, a victim of Jeffrey Epstein's you know, having
sat through Glen Maxwell's criminal trial, and you know reported
on this story for over two decades and having known
Gilen Maxwell, that is absolutely not the case. She was

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not just a predator and Epstein's accomplice. She really went
out and betrayed her own gender. The only reason these
vulnerable girls entered Jeffrey Epstein's front door, kitchen, door, side

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door and went on there were up the stairs on
their way to his massage room was because Glenn Maxwell
had lured them in, including this fake veneer of respectability
normalizing his trying to normalize his sexual practices with teenage

(02:09):
girls so that they they would sort of they would
be groomed into doing his bidding, not just by the
way having to have sex with him, but then going
out being paid and going out.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
To recruit other girls. It was a pyramid scheme, and
she was at the top of it.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yes, everyone that I've talked to, you know who's who
has in the last couple of weeks, who's known of
her or known her closely, has used that word predator.
And she was also sexually abusing these young girls, which
I think is something we should not leave on the
table in this in this discussion, But talk to us
a little bit more. I don't think as Americans have

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as much of a grasp of her origin story. And
that's something that you delved into, particularly in the in
the series, you did talk to us about where she
came from and how we ended up with this very
strange and you know, some people were saying she was broken.
I think evil is a better word. But talk to

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us about her origin story and why she is this
figure who's able to go in and sort of, as
my friend Stewart seem says, spread that pixie dust of
English gentry, affluents and connections to royalty and all those
things to these very naive young girls.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Well, you know, it is a complicated story, and it
is a sad story.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
It is it is. It is again not a story
of victimhood.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Gilen Maxwell grew up with every privilege, the daughter of
a very wealthy, self made media mogul, Robert Maxwell.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
He was also briefly a politician. Her father was.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
An obese, charismatic bully, I mean, saands deliberately contradictory.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
He was a man who most people believe was, you know,
an agent.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
You know, he was so well connected around the world,
partly through his newspapers or he also owned a publishing company,
the Pergaman Press, that published published scientific journals. You know,
leading scientific journals of countries tend to contain interesting information
about latest scientific developments, useful staff to pass around. Robert

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Maxwell treated women appallingly. He treated his staff appallingly. He
treated his children accordingly. Gilen, the youngest, was his favorite.
He had a boat named after her, the Lady Glen
Robert and Robert Maxwell was found dead in the water

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in nineteen ninety one, supposedly having fallen overboard from his boat.
The reason there was been a lot of speculation in
the wake of that is that shortly after he was
found dead and given a hero's burial in the Mount
of Olives in Israel, it emerged that he had stolen

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the equivalent of a billion dollars from the pension funds
of his employees. Gilenn Maxwell, who was in her late twenties,
had two of her brothers, Kevin and Ian, went on
trial in London for enabling their father. They were acquitted.

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She meanwhile, moved to New York in circumstances that were
considerably reduced from.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
What she'd grown up with.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
You know, gone with the helicopters, the planes, the yachts,
and she, you know, by her standards, was living impecuniously, you.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Know, which means she had a two bedroom.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Apartment right on the Upper east Side or something right.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
So into this picture comes the mysterious figure of Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
If Gilenn Maxwell's story has a sadness.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
To it, it is because it's at this juncture in
her life when, yes, the father who she worshiped, even
though he was a bully, he beat her when she
would bring her friends home from Oxford, he was dismissive
of them. She would be playing chess, I reported in
Chasing Glen, and he would just come over and lift
up her piece and disrupt the game.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
She thought, this man walked on water.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
And when he died instead of you know, believing that
with her Oxford education, her extraordinar rolodex inherited from her dad, which,
as you say, had royalty, had leaders from everywhere. I
mean Robert Maxwell had been born in Czechoslovakia, but he
was close to the leaders of Russia America.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
He owned the New York Daily News at the end
of his.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Life, London, Israel, I mean Bulgaria, you know, And Gilenn
Maxwell was you know, with somebody. He you know, she
was a social asset to her father. He had his rolodex,
she had this education, She spoke multiple languages, and instead
of thinking, well, this terrible thing has happened. Now I
must go out and make the best level on my own,

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she turned to Jeffrey Epstein, who she not only.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Sort of fell in love with, but.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Who she viewed as her security blanket, the man who
was going to take care of her in the way
that her father had taken care of her.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
But at what price? And this is where.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Things turn so dark and twisted, because, you know, Jeffrey
Epstein was.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Not known for, you know, being monogamous.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
He was also not known, by the way, though, until
Gilenn Maxwell enters the picture in the early nineteen nineties,
he was not known as a predator of children either.
This is something that happens in the nineteen nineties when
Jeffrey Epstein's wealth has exploded mysteriously. And it is worth

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remembering that the Maxwell, you know, the Maxwells, was supposed
to have handed all all their millions over right to
repay the pension.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
The employees of the Mirror Group whose pension funds have
been wronged.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Some of that money went, let's say missing, at the
same time that Jeffrey Epstein's wealth has exploded, and people
you know, have wondered if there is could be a
connection there.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
We will probably never know. But the but but as.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
His wealth explodes, and as Gilen Maxwell realizes that the
only way she can continue to keep this man's, this
sick man's attention and stay on his payroll effectively is
to bring him girls and what she.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Called the new Bials, which I just found incredibly creepy.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Right, And.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
You also have to remember that Jeffrey Epstein in the
nineteen nineties.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
As he acquires this, you know, the biggest.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Private townhouse in New York, his private island in the Caribbean,
the apartment in Paris, the ranch in New Mexico, the plane, all.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Of it, he becomes reclusive. He hides from plain sight.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
He conducts all this disgusting stuff behind closed doors. The
person who goes out at night into the world scouting
for him is her, you know, and most people I
met her when I moved to New York in nineteen
ninety seven. She would just pop up from time to time.

(10:14):
You can hear from my accent. I grew up in England,
as did she she would so it's a small world
of British expats in New York, right, you know, she
would pop up, But you know I didn't. You know,
I'd never heard of Jeffrey Epstein in the late nineteen
nineteenth but you know, you had no idea, you know,
what she spent her time doing. There were these stories

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of she was piloting a helicopter, she'd been off traveling.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
With bold face names like Bill Clinton.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
I mean, you was a head scratcher, what she you know,
And yet she was I mean, she clearly.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Had a lot of money because she was always.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Dressed in you know, couldture designer clothing, and she seemed
to have a much more interesting and exotic, glamorous, globe
trotting life. But you know, trying to piece it all
together was a bit of a puzzle.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
And she also she was one of those people.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
She she definitely she you know, she thought it was
sort of funny and sophisticated to talk endlessly about sex.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
That was that was a that was a thing.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
But she was the person who was out and about
and hanging out with the plutocracy.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
So all those connections that that Epstein wanted in his
in whatever his mysterious business was, whatever his whether he
was a financial advisor or whatever you want, how you
want to describe it, she became a sort of social
lubricant for him in this whole thing, a sort of
social skeleton key for him, from what I can read
of it. So they had they were involved in the beginning,

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right from what I understand, and then essentially she was
she she found herself as his procurus. I guess is
the most o ed word I can I can think
of to use. And eventually, as things started to we
entered into the mid and late teens, Epstein's behavior in

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Palm Beach got more and more aggressive and obvious. People
were picking up on it. When did they sort of
semi go their separate ways?

Speaker 3 (12:23):
So around two thousand and three four it would seem
that she did try to get out of his orbit.
And you're right, Rick, because this is the time when
the Feds, the FBI starts to investigate him in Palm

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Beach and there are, as we now know, hundreds of
you know, victims, I mean, you know there are even
flyers in Palm Beach schools. Yeah, I mean, and she
does I think try to get out of his orbit.
She meets a guy called Ted Weight who was from

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the West Coast as a tech entrepreneur, and you know,
for a while she definitely tries to separate herself out
and this then you know, sort of two thousand and
to four to twenty ten are the years where you know,
the FBI is investigating him, and we you know, we

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know that in two thousand and eight, this extra you know,
Jeffrey Epstein has this dream team he called them, of lawyers,
and he manages to get the federal investigation to go
away by doing a plea deal through Alex Acosta, the
US attorney at the time for Florida, and you know,

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copying a plea to two state charges for which he
you know, one of which was soliciting a prostitute and
soliciting sex with a minor. And and but he goes
to do this cushy work release.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, right, for thirteen months, and then when he.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Gets out, you know, he goes back to you know,
you know, it's it's business as usual and this and
this and the usual crowd of plutocrats, including Bill Gates
and you know, even the current Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia.
I mean, all sorts of luminaries come through. His story

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carries on basically with impunity, and his line to all
of these people is that, you know, it was some
some young women had lied about her age and it
was a ghastly mistake, and you know, he carries on
as usual Gilenn Maxwell. However, it's sort of unable to

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outrun the situation, and that is because of virgin young
women called Virginia Roberts, Jeffrey who tragically died this year.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
But it's when so you know, it turns.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Out that this plea deal that Jeffrey Epstein has done,
it turns out to be illegal because it was done
without the knowledge of.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
All the victims.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
We'd been interviewed by the FBI and a class they
formed a class action lawsuit. Virginia Roberts was not one
of the women who was interviewed by the FEDS because
she had.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Done a runner in the fall.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Of two thousand and two. She'd escaped Epstein and Maxwell.
She'd gone to Thailand to do a massage course and
she met the man she would marry and they ran
off and to live in Australia. But the lawyers involved
in that class action suit, you know, found her in

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Australia and she decided to join this class action suit.
And not only did she, you know, publicly come out
and talk about what had happened with Jeffrey Epstein and
Gelen Maxwell, she named other men she said Jeffrey Epstein
had pimped her out to. One of them was Prince Andrew.

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And what she had that made headlines around the world
was that this photograph of herself with Prince Andrew with
his arm around her waist and when she was seventeen
years old in London. And it was basically when Gilen
Maxwell in early twenty fifteen called Virginia Roberts Geoffrey a liar,

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and Virginia then turned around and sued her for defamation
that lawsuit, although it was ultimately settled, the discovery all
the depositions in that lawsuit is what ultimately really became
the backbone of the federal indictment against Jeffrey Epstein. Finally

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in twenty nineteen, when the political climate had changed by
then and you know, Julie Brown, excellent reporter, had her
and the political climate had changed, so it but it

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was that it was that lawsuit that was the backbone
of the charges against him, and then after Jeffrey Epstein died,
as we know, in peculiar circumstances, the indictment against Gilen Maxwell. Again,
even though Virginia Roberts Tiffrey was not called to her
criminal trial, the material from that lawsuit was was was

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present every day in the courtroom.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
So, Vicky, there's a long running theory of the case
that a lot of people have wondered about that Epstein
supposedly and the federal government has seized a lot of
this material, so we don't know what's actually on it,
but that he recorded these powerful men, and he and
he and Maxwell recorded videos of these powerful men with
these girls. What's your theory of that, of that of

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that aspect of this case, because you know, there's there's
an argument that I heard the other day from a
Trump supporter who said, well, Trump's trying to just protect
a lot of really powerful friends, not just himself. What
do you think that about that aspect of this whole thing?

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Well, I think that's a really reasonable question because we
do know. I mean, look, Virginia Roberts, Geffrey definitely name
names we know and I reported this in chasing Gilen
from Alan Dershowitz, and you know she made claims about
Alan Dershowitz, who was who was Epstein's lawyer.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Now then Trump's lawyer.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
That case ultimately settled with her saying she may have
been mistaken about Dershowitz's identity. But Dershowitz one of the
reasons he fought Virginia Geoffrey was because he wanted to
clear his name, he said, despite Jeffrey Epstein coming to
him and saying, I'll pay all legal bills, but could

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you just I just could you stop talking about this.
I wanted to go away. Dershowitz said no. But Dershowitz
said at the time that Epstein was running around all
these guys who were named black. I'll settle your bills,
you know, I'll pay the legal expenses, but I just
want this to go away. So you know that those

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names are sitting around. We also know because we sat
there and Glenn Maxwell's trial. This was the most extraordinary
day in court when they called in the FBI agent
who had been there busting into Jeffrey Epstein's townhouse in

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twenty nineteen when they arrested him when his plane landed
at Teterborough, and the FBI agent says, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
So we go in and we.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Can see this, all these DVDs sitting there, and she's asked, well,
what did you do to them? She said, well, we
leave the house and we don't take the DVDs because
they didn't have a search warrant.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
So then she tells the court. They come back the
next day and lo the DVDs have gone.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
What a surprise, And I mean it really.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Was remarkable that and they've been removed by Jeffrey Epstein's
lawyer's lawyer and accountant who then claim that they then
bring them back when the FBI has a search warrant.
But you are left, you know, sitting there scratching your
head about all of this.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
I will say this, Rick that The other.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Thing, though, that I found very frustrating sitting through Maxwell's
trial was that the scope of.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
It was very narrow.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
I mean, the government normally only prosecutes cases it thinks
it can win, and this was a case that was
about sex crimes and sex trafficking, and so it was
kind of frustrating because you would see Jeffrey Epstein's flight
logs come up on a screen and you would see

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the bold face names, whether it was Trump, Clinton, whoever,
all the genes, you know, Harvard, whoever. But you never
got to see how the jigsaw puzzle of all this
money and power and connections, how it all pieced together.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
And I think that that.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Is why people want to hear from her. This all
began right among Trumps magabase because there's such suspicion about
the quote unquote Deep States, right, right, and how and
how kind of soft power works in the shadows? Well,
there is no you know, in my mind, Jeffrey Epstein's

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entire career was based on soft power operations in the shadows,
and Gilen Maxwell was at the center of it. So
she definitely can answer those questions. She can answer questions
I suspect about the source of his money, and she
can certainly answer questions about all the men in his orbit,

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because Jeffrey Epstein could never have pulled this off alone.
So you know, But the question is at what price?

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Mm hmm, you know, one would she give the whole
truth and nothing but the truth? Unlikely?

Speaker 1 (22:54):
That was my next question is knowing what you know
about her character? It offered a part, whether it has
stated explicitly or just tacitly. Is she going to understand
that the pardon means she says, Oh, Donald Trump always
left early, he was never around these other guys though
they're the ones I.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Mean, Yes, of course, I mean, this is an extraordinarily smart,
sophisticated woman who at this point has got absolutely nothing
to lose. She knows she holds all the cards, and
of course she's not going to say anything negative about
the man who could pardon her.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Of course not.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
So.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yes, And you know, and we know when she was
up on her criminal trial, one of the charges against
her was perjury. So so you have no reason to
think that she's not going to say anything that wouldn't
be in her self interest. It is also true, however,
though Rick, that she's probably not been asked before a

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lot of the questions that Todd Blanche asked her last week.
But the public kind of in a way in Congress
needs to weigh whether getting those questions maybe asked are
answered selectively is worth making a complete mockery of the
American justice system in a crime that I would argue

(24:17):
is one of the worst worst crimes to have come
in American history. A woman, a grown, privilege educated women, trapping, abusing,
trafficking girls.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
I mean, it's kind of unthinkable.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
And almost all these girls, you know, especially the ones
from Palm Beach, they were, as they say, West of
the Interstate girls. They were, they were from disadvantaged upbringings.
They were not they were they were they were easy
targets for a woman like Mike Maxwell, given her sophistication
and the and the polish she could put on for them,

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you know, as as someone who was pretending to introduce
them into a world of wealth and power and generous
men all that stuff. It's just yeah, I think I
think it's really helpful that that that. You know, folks,
if you if you really want some some amazing background this,
listen to Vicky's series Chasing goad Lane, because it really

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gives you a perspective on on I mean, god, you know,
we we we we don't like using this word in
our society, but an evil person, someone who is overtly
evil and who is an abuser of these young women
at a level that's just unthinkable. So well, Vicky, I
really appreciate your time today. Thank you for coming on
on on with me and uh and and thank you

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for sharing your information. About about Maxwell and uh and folks, Vicky,
where can they? Folks find you on social media?

Speaker 3 (25:46):
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Speaker 1 (25:57):
Get on right, yeah Patterson, I love that guy.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
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Speaker 1 (26:04):
Great, amazing, so good. Well, thank you, Vicky. We appreciate
you coming on. We'll talk to you again very soon.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Thanks very Hey, folks.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
What we know right now is that Juanne Maxwell has
now been moved to a minimum security, cushy, club fed
work camp prison in Texas. This has trees, This has
tennis courts, This has a putting green. This is not
a place where you put the woman who ran the
largest child predator sex rape ring in recent memory. This

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is not where you put someone who is being treated
by the Justice Department as the woman who is a
registered sex offender, unless there's a quid pro quo. And
believe me, if you don't think the fix is in
at this point, that Maxwell is now in a cushy,

(27:55):
very very nice prison, probably from what I could quickly research,
one of the most comfortable places you can go if
you're a female federal prisoner in this country. It's basically
barely even a prison. Why did she get sent there?

(28:16):
Anybody want to guess? Anybody? Anybody think the Bureau of
Prisons didn't get a fucking phone call from Pam Bondy. Hey,
you gotta move her. Todd Blanche has made a deal.
Gotta take care of her. If you are not outraged
by this, maga folks, I don't ever want to hear

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a fucking word out of your mouths again about the
global pedophile conspiracy, cannibal sex ring. Bullshit, not a word,
not a fucking word. She's the architect of an organization
headed by Jeffrey Epstein. But she was his consigliere, his recruiter,

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his trainer, his groomer, to use a term that y'all
love to use, of these young girls so they can
be raped by Jeffrey Epstein and his friends. And Donald
Trump is now has transferred her to the most luxurious
federal prison for women that there is. I wouldn't be

(29:22):
surprised that there was fucking turned down service at this place.
Look FCI Tallahassee, where Maxwell was until yesterday. It's not
exactly like the hardest prison in America. It's not a
supermax or anything like that. But now they have put
her somewhere very very cushy, very very comfortable. So there's
only two ways this goes. One, she's already made the

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deal and this is part of the flow as they
move towards commuting her sentence or pardoning her. Or two
they're trying to induce her now like, oh, look, you
can get better treatment. You can get you can get
the pardon faster, you can be somewhere where it's more comfortable,
you can be somewhere where there's nicer amenities at the prison. Listen,

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this woman trafficked two hundred plus young women. If you
think she deserves to be in the cushiest federal prison
for women, and you're a Maga voter, again, I don't
want to ever hear a fucking word out of your
mouth again about anything to do with child trafficking or
all the other things that you believe that the Democrats

(30:27):
are involved in a pizza restaurant in DC. Not a word,
don't want to hear, don't want to hear a fucking
word about it. I just don't, Okay, I just don't.
Maxwell is a monster. She has twice been found guilty
of perjury and anything that comes out of her mouth
now as a result of this crooked deal with the

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Trump administration, with Todd Blanche and Pam Bondi and Donald
Trump and Cash Mattel and Dan Bongino, all of whom
are in the loop on this, I promise you, and
whoever runs the Bureau of Prison was whatever, whatever weird
Trump acolytes, scophant ass liquor runs the Bureau of Prisons.
They had to make a special exemption because she is

(31:09):
a registered sex offender to move her. Now. Look, if
you're a reporter in Washington, I know you're like, oh, well,
the TRUMPCISU will never tell the slimy Well, maybe you
should try to find out. Maybe you should go try
to find some lawyers there and some people there in
the staff at VOP. Maybe you should be talking to
people because this is a big, big part of the

(31:33):
cover up story. There is a massive cover up happening
right now in front of your face. They're hitting you
in the face over and over and over again with
this cover up. This deserves enterprise reporting from major news outlets.
Julane Maxwell being moved to the cushiest federal prison that

(31:54):
there is. Is not a coincidence. It wasn't a root
teen transfer. Something happened here to cause this to occur.
That's something started when Todd Blanche, who is close friends

(32:15):
with Golaine, Maxwell's attorney, met with her in Tallahassee last week.
It seems like a fricking year ago, but okay, met
with her last week in Tallahassee. They sat down and
either they cut the deal or they got to the
outlines of a deal. Because this is clearly either an

(32:39):
inducement or a reward for Maxwell's cooperation with them. And again,
let's be extraordinarily clear, not one iota of this is
about justice for the victims of Epstein and Maxwell. This
is about covering Donald Trump's ass Politically, this is about

(33:02):
protecting Donald Trump from consequence and accountability for his relationship,
his friendship, his dealings with Jeffrey Epstein, his close friend,
the man who he only broke up with over a
real estate deal. He did not break up with Jeffrey
Epstein over the fact that he's quote unquote stole Virginia

(33:23):
Guffrey from him. He broke up with Epstein because he
fucked him on a real estate deal. This is not
about the victims. Nothing she could say will will help
heal those women and those girls that were raped by
Jeffrey Epstein and by Glaine Maxwell herself, and by the
powerful men that now the DOJ is protecting. And I'm

(33:46):
gonna tell you, if you don't think that the extraordinary
effort they're going through in the Department of Justice right
now does not implicate Donald Trump in this matter, you
are living in a dream world. So Gleaine Maxwell was
moved again to the cushierst Federal prison for women that
there is. This is not a woman who had a

(34:08):
speeding ticket. This is not a woman who had an
insider trading conviction. This is not a woman who was
convicted of stuck fraud. This is not a woman who
did contracting fraud against the federal government. This is the
woman who engineered the recruitment, the training, the trafficking, the

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abuse of young women for Jeffrey Epstein's pedophile rape ring.
This is the woman who has perjured herself twice and
been convicted of it twice. This is a woman who
is a registered sexual offender. This is a woman who has,

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at the orders of Donald John Trump, the forty seventh
President of the United States, been moved to a cushy
federal correctional facility. If you're not thinking about this as
a citizen, as a reporter, as a human being, as

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a father or a mother, or a grandfather or a grandmother,
as an absolute outrage and an insult to not only
the justice system in this country, but most particularly to
the victims of Epstein and Maxwell and their friends. I
pray you will reconsider your predicates and rethink your life,
because this should outrage you. This should piss you off.

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This should piss you off like very little else could
piss you off. These people are protecting Trump, Pam Bondy,
Todd Blanche Dan Bongino, Cash Patel, Susie Wiles. They are
engineering this cover up every minute of this day. They're

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trying to throw all the garbage out there, trying to
throw all the bullshit other investigations out there. It's all
to distract you from the fact that Donald Trump has
made a deal once again with the woman who is
at the center of Jeffrey Epstein's pedophile rape ring. I

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don't want to hear it, Maga, all of you. I
don't want to hear a fucking word ever again. You
know their favorite thing is to accuse people who are
not pedophiles of being pedophiles, people who are not groomors
of being groomers. These people who still support Trump right now,

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and he's going to pardon her or commute her sentence,
one of the two, same story, so that she will
lie for him, so that she will say, oh, Donald
Trump was never there. I never saw Donald Trump any
know what he barely knew. Jeffrey, you don't think this

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is coming, pull your head out of the rectal cavity
in which you have presently inserted it. If you don't
think this is going to happen, wake up. The accusation
in the minds of a million QAnon dipshits and the

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minds of MAGA activists, And this big lie created by
people like Mike Sarnovich and Jack Pisobiac and all these
fucking idiots that the Democrats are all raping little girls
in a pizza restaurant was.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
Always a lie. But you know it wasn't a lie.
Juliane Maxwell was recruiting and training and gaslighting and abusing
and trafficking young women and girls miners, so that Jeffrey
Epstein and his rich friends.

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Could rape them. And now Donald Trump is going to
free her. He's already done her a big favor. He's
already sent her now to a cushy women's prison, more
like a day camp than a prison. If you're not angry,
you're not paying attention. If you don't think this is
an outrage, your moral sense is so screwed up by

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your worship of Donald Trump and your and your narrow
gauge partisan blinders, that you shouldn't You shouldn't consider yourself
a decent person. You shouldn't consider yourself a good person.
Good people would want this kind of person. Join Maxwell,

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who is a perjurer, a sex offender, and a human
trafficker who stayed behind bars for her complete sentence. You're
the same people that think that a gardener who is
here illegally needs to be sent a seacott. You're the
same folks who think that somebody who protests against Donald

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Trump that the cops should beat the shit out of them.
And yet you want claim Maxwell a predator, a child molester,
a human trafficker. If you get a cushy sentence or
to get pardoned, He's going to pardon her, folks. If
he doesn't partner, I'll be shocked. This is a sign

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the deal is moving, the fix is in. This is
a hideous moment, and Donald Trump, I assure you, is
both aware and enabling what is happening right now. Anyone
who thinks that he hasn't been on the phone with
Todd Blanche and Pam Bondy and the Bureau of Prisons
and whoever else is involved in this cover up is insane.

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This is an ugly moment for America and Donald Trump,
as much as he loves to transgress, as much as
he loves to put a be a human middle finger,
as much as a lot of Umaga voters really like
that part of him, I hope you're comfortable now, because
that middle finger that's in your face from Donald Trump
right now is in the form of a woman who
is a sexual predator, who ran a sex trafficking pedophile ring,

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and who participated in the rape of minors with Jeffrey Epstein. Congratulations, Maga,
great day for you.