Rick Wilson

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Rick Wilson, Oha jouang fast.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's all happening today, it really is.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
It's always happening.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
And we're about to give Alaska back to Russia or
something this weekend. You never can tell.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
So let's just talk about this second. So basically Steve
Wikoff's translator translated something wrong. And now we're giving Alaska.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
I mean, folks, just so y'all know, we're joking about
giving Alaska back. But it's not out of the question.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
It isn't likely, but it's not possible.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Likely, but it's just but it's not but it's not.
The chance of it isn't zero.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
So real talk. Donald Trump said he would end the
war in Ukraine on day one. It is now day
two hundred plus plus plus. The war in Ukraine seems
no closer to ending. Vladimir Putin has completely won against
Donald Trump every which way to Sunday right.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Look, I mean, one of the things that's going on
here is we have a guy who is one of
the greatest war criminals of the twentieth or the twenty
first century certainly, who is right now being invited to
American territory in Alaska's going to be treated with kid
gloves by Donald Trump, and Trump's desperation to get a
Nobel prize, a Nobel Peace Prize, which which I do

(01:21):
have to just advise all of you Trumpers out there.
Donald Trump could negotiate a peace treaty with the with
the with the Gray Aliens, and it's still happened.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, let me just say two things here. Joe Biden
got a lot of shit, and that should be like
I feel like that's that that should be like, you know,
that should be on a cake. Joe Biden got a
lot of shit, because he did. He got a lot
of shit, but he really got a lot of shit.
And I think rightfully so for getting railroaded by both

(01:50):
Nat Yahoo and Putin. But it's interesting to watch Donald
Trump get railroaded by both Nat Yahoo and Putin, Like
it is obvious that these two characters have now this
is the second US president, that they are just basically
completely just having their way with Well.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Look, I mean, let's let's be real here. W got
rolled by Putin too when he said, oh, I looked
in his eyes and I can.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
See his soul or something.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, if you saw anything in his eyes, it's a
yawning chasm.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Of pure evil sport right exactly, This.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Moment we're about to have in Alaska this week is
so humiliating for the US, and the Russians are trolling
the shit out of him right now because they know
how humiliating it is that. You know, they're they've they've
always been telling their people like, we're going to take
Alaska back someday.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
What do you think?

Speaker 3 (02:42):
You know? The symbolism of this is, where do you
think this idea to meet in Alaska came from? I
will bet you ninety nine times out of one hundred
it came from Russia.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Let's talk about this. Trump getting rolled by Putin and
also by net Yahoo. He said there was a famine.
Net Yahoo then called him up and yelled at him.
Anyone who's had a Jewish mother knows exactly how this goes.
Like it's so funny because I mean, I guess we're
not supposed to say this, but as a Jew, I
feel well within my rights. He said, oh my god,

(03:09):
those children are starving, which is what everybody said when
they saw those pictures of the starving children. And net
Yahoo called them up and was like, no, you didn't
see starving children. And Trump was like okay, I mean,
he doesn't care, but it can't be said enough, Like
how this fucking thing is still going on is just

(03:30):
as we say in Judaism a shanda.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Look, this space level of not being able in American
politics to separate the people of Israel from Bibi Net
and Yahoo, I think has broken a lot of people
in this country politically for decades because bb Net and Yahoo.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
I hate to break it to y'all, he's a bad guy.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, he's just like trying.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
He's a bad guy.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
He is he and he's doing a lot of things
that Trump like wants to would like to do. Yeah,
he fired the Attorney general world Israel. Why because Bibi
Nyahoo is the is the target of a long running
and corruption probe that makes a lot of Trump's corruption
look like the most sophisticated byzantine plotting in the world.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
I mean, he's in the.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Sort of like like the good newscases of cash corruption.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Right. The good news for the gold bars, Right, The
good news for Trump is that he does not ever
have to fire Pambondi because there's no world in which
Pam Bondi is doing anything that is independent of what
he tells her to do Molly.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
That is one hundred percent correct. No universe exists where
Pambondi does not first ask for permission before she does
anything anything.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
So let's talk for a minute about a meeting that
happened with JD. Vans, Pam Bondy, who even knows who else.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
About the Cash Dollar Patel Cash.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Battal and in it, they were trying to help the
American people help themselves by not making it so their
boss had to worry about Jeff app anymore. So talk
us through what you think happened.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, so these people got together. They were supposed to
have a meeting at the Naval Observatory, the Vice President's
residence y, which is very lovely by the way, if
you've never been there.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
It's very lovely.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
And what vice president were you there with? Again?

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Remind me, oh, you know, the Lord of Darkness, the.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Prince of Yeah, I was gonna say not.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
But long.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
In the short of it is that this meeting came
to Trump's attention and he flipped his shit because it
was being held outside of his normal personal purview and
his channels. He wants everything that happens regarding his good
buddy Jeffrey Epstein to be within earshot of him, and

(05:56):
this was going to be out of his immediate eyesight.
Everybody at that everybody at that meeting, with one exception,
is an unquestioned loyalist to Donald Trump. But the one
exception is a big exception, and that is there is
still some suspicion about jd Vance inside Trump's brain and
his world, just because he had the unforgivable sin in
the past of opposing Trump.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Jd Vance raised the Ohio River Van jd yes.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Jd Vance rivers. Jd Vance sort of a a lateral
version or vertical version of Moses. Instead of partying the river,
he raised the river.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
It feels very Marie Antoinette, Oh.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
It feels so. It feels so let them eat catfish.
It is so arrogant and weird.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
And and look, this guy's been on vacation almost the
entire time he's been vice president.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
He's never off of vacation.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
That's right, because remember didn't they go? Where did they go?
Where they went?

Speaker 3 (06:56):
They went out to somewhere in the Rockies. They went
out to call They're in the Cotswolds right now.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Oh good, I'm glad. I was hoping they'd have fun.
You know, it is true. Between those guys, and then
you have Christy Nome riding horses with remember that with.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Her boyfriend in Argentina. They do seem to get a
lot of vacations. It's good.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
I'm just glad they're having fun.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Listen, I don't blame people for taking vacations. I'm taking
one coming up at the end of this month.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Tell us more, where are you going?

Speaker 3 (07:29):
We're going to the Cotswolds actually, and to London. But
I promise you I will not raise or to lower
the levels of any rivers while I'm there. Well, normal
would be on the taxpayer's dime.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
No, And I mean, I do think it is worth
remembering that these people really are using the presidency for
and the Office of the Presidency and all of the
things that are meant to be used to serve the
American people to serve themselves.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
The griftiness is now the point for a lot of this.
They're gonna this thing dry, Molly until the last possible
minute when they are drag kicking and screaming out of
the White House. And you know they're going to be dragged,
kicking and screaming because this is the best gig any
of them has ever had or will ever.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Help will ever have.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
So speaking of which, Donald Trump knows he's going to lose, right,
He knows that these midterms are going to be bad
for him. He can see the he can see his polling,
and so he's trying to get Texas to make it
so he won't lose his election. This is such an
interesting thing because it really is. You know, you have
Abbott and Paxton who are in like and Cornyn who

(08:36):
are in a goal to become the biggest Trump Trump
be sickophant. But this special session, as long as they
stay out of the state until August nineteenth, which is
my birthday, God help us all, I will be twenty six.
As long as they stay out of the state, they
can you know, I mean, they can just keep doing this, right.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, And look, I want to make one thing clearer.
And I have talked to several Texas lawyers now and
several national election lawyers now, just so you folks know,
there is no legal cause of action where they can
send either the FBI or the Texas Rangers or the
Texas Bureau of Investigation or any other garbage or anybody

(09:20):
to Illinois to seize and arrest these people on a
civil warrant that has no basis in law or fact,
And what it will be if they do this is kidnapping,
which is a federal crime, which I would love to
see Greg Abbott find a way out of a kidnapping charge.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Even this administration will reach a point, I believe.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
So let's talk about this because if we go into
a redistricting race, Democrats lose. All of us lose, right,
because it makes our democracy a joke. So, I mean,
what do you think happens here? You think Texas gets
the five seats.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Look, I don't think Texas gets the five seats. I
think the Democrats there have figured out that they are
playing by the rules. Forcing a quorum to break a
quorum in Texas is legal. It is in the state
law and the state constitution. I think the Democrats are
you know, you know, I am a hard critic of
their inability to walk and chew gum. I think the

(10:22):
Democrats are actually winning this fight right now. I also
think that Newsome has made a very careful play here,
which is we're prepared to do this, but we're not
going to do this unless Texas triggers this.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Battle, right, which is.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
And that that respects, that respects the fact that we
all understand that doing this is stupid.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Right, and it's also the road to the end of
American democracy, right, because you can't have free elections.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
You're taking a greased it is a greased slide on
a hot day into cheating and invalidation of election results
and legislative fuckery on election results. And there's no good
that comes to this, molly if fact. And look, Texas,
they can maximize these five seats. We've looked at some

(11:12):
of the other states where they're in play. Ohio could
maybe juice one seat out of theirs because they're losing population.
Florida's already extremely redistricted for the Republicans, and they could maybe,
maybe hypothetically kind of sort of squint and get another seat.
Maybe none of this is going to be easy. And
in Florida there are two constitutional amendments, one for federal

(11:35):
one for state redistricting. That and again, even the Florida
Supreme Court, which is very conservative, is going to look
at those amendments and say, now you're breaking five and six.
Amendments five and Amendment six We're not gonna let you
do this. There is a degree to which the latitude
that Texas has is not present in the other big
Republican states now in California and New York and other states.

(11:58):
If we end up in this death spiral, Democrats better play.
If Abbot adds five, then California adds five. You know,
we just cannot be in this box where we unilaterally disarmed.
It's like nuclear weapons, Molly. You know, nobody wants them,
but we all have them, and so now we're kind
of fucking stuck with them.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's true.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
And I think of nuclear weapons is not to use
nuclear weapons.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Weapons is to deter We'll see how this plays, but
it is there is a good case that Democrats are
doing the right thing. I did talk a lot to
the office of Governor Pritzker all of his people, and
you know, they've been really careful because the way the
money works, you don't want right it's very important. But
this crew is particularly well funded, and I think that

(12:48):
they can, you know, stay out until I was nineteenth
for sure.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
I think, you know Greg Abbott saying, oh, well, go,
I can do it again and again and again and again,
can you though, Chief, Because really, remember, let's remember the
excuse for this special session, the one they sent the
request to the legislature was not about redistrict. It was
about flood relief, which they've done a shit job on
for the people of Texas. So I think there's a
political lever that has been pulled. I don't know that

(13:17):
he can pull it over and over and over and
over and over again.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
But I also think it's important to remember that this
is a rapidly bluifying state. And the reason that Trump
won was a that he was good at telling people
he would do things they wanted him to do, and
b was because there were a lot of white people
who were scared about diversity, right, they were scared that

(13:43):
they were going to lose power. Sure, and now we
have a state like Texas, which is you know, it
is rapidly becoming a purple state now because they have
such low voter engagement. They're not voting like a purple state,
but they caught you know, It's like, I mean, there's

(14:03):
reason to assume that it can get there.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
There. Look, Texas is getting younger, it is getting browner.
There are some areas of Texas that have been very
paradoxical for the Democrats.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
You have a lot of folks.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
In the Rio Grand Valley who are very progressive on
economic issues but also extremely religious, and Republicans have made
inroads with those. But like most of the Hispanic gains
Donald Trump has made, there are some early indications now
that in Texas those gains he made with Hispanics have
been given up.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
I can't imagine why people don't want to vote for
the guy who's putting their cousin in detention center and
not letting him use the phone. I can't imagine a
real mystery.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Remember one thing about Texas. Donald Trump got fifty six
point three percent of the vote in Texas. That is
the lowest Republican percentage since Nixon.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, so he's not.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Texas has been a slow drip, and I know it
frustrates our Democratic friends that they can't have it now.
But Texas is a culturally conservative state outside of the metros,
it is an economically conservative state in the oil and
the role of oil and gas plays a disproportionate role
in the funding of elections in that state.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
The reason that Greg Abbott.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
The way you're saying that, let us let me rephrase
that for English, very rich oil assholes give a lot
of money to Republicans because.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Hey, listen, I was getting to that.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, sorry, I didn't know the attorney general.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
The attorney general who has been impeached, who is a felon,
who is a criminal.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
But they had to give then they gave money to everything.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
He got a couple of super oil and gas guys
to donate millions of dollars in the state Senate to
the swing votes who so they would vote to impeach him.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
Correct, Texas is and look for again, I am from Florida.
I am from Florida, and we know about corruption in Florida. Okay,
this is a state where we know, we knows some corruption.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Texas has lapped Ust and Louisiana another state with some corruption.
And seriously, it's like five or six guys that dominate
the entire political scene in Texas because they write such
massive checks.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Had a guy who used to be in the oil.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
And gas business, was a CEO of a big oiling
gas company, say to me about a year ago, he is,
there is no drill, baby, drill bullshit left. All the
easy fruit has been picked. These guys are living on.
These guys are living in a in a in a
dream world where they still have a couple of billion
dollars in the bank. But it takes one global downturn
and it's going to fuck them all. I'm like, please Jesus, faster.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Please, tiniest violin in the world, mano violin playing for
oil and gas, guys who have wrecked the planet. There
is no more oil and gas. Rick Wilson, will you
come back?

Speaker 1 (17:05):
You know I will