Rick Wilson

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, everybody, welcome back to their episode of Behind the
Numbers with the Wilsons. I am today in a secure
on disclosed location, not really. My car got blocked in
by a fuel truck, so I'm at the airport in
my hangar. It's exciting, I know. But I'm joined today
as always by Andrew Wilson, genius polster.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
And who happened? Good morning, Good morning, good morning. So folks,
let me say this before we start.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
The country is obsessed right now with the Charlie Kirk story.
But the Charlie Kirk story is just that, it is
not the fundamental underpinning of the twenty twenty sixth election.
It's not the fundamental underpinning of the twenty twenty eight election.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
What it is is a.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Terrible story, terrible tragedy. We don't play it any other way.
It's a terrible tragedy. But it's not going to change
this world we're in fundamentally as we go forward, and
a lot of the things we're going to talk about
today in the numbers that we're seeing are going to
have a major impact in the twenty six election. So Andrew,

(01:00):
let's get started, and I think the bottom line up
front is Trump's ratings on the economy are now worse
than Biden's were in his worst moments.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, so Biden, well almost nearly we're approaching that number.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
We're in the thirties.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
So Biden's worst months were in the mid to low
thirties for approval on the economy, and Trump is now,
according to this Reuters Episodes poll from this week, at
thirty six percent approval on the economy, which for Trump
is devastating considering his past track record on the economy.

(01:36):
You know, he has always so he's always benefited from
the businessman persona and really, you know that is one
of his best issues aside from immigration, and he's completely
lost it. I mean, thirty six percent. When you're at
Joe Biden numbers, you know you're doomed. And this is
the Fox News poll from this week. You know, they

(01:56):
say that the Trump administration has made the economy worse,
not just that Trump is residing over a bad economy.
This means that people see Trump's policy action, so.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
They are finally connecting the tariffs, the economic uncertainty, the craziness,
the attack on the.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Fed, all that stuff as a as a negative. He's
not just a symptom. He's the cause.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
And I think Trump in a way pulled the strings
together for this to happen, right Like, he said that
he could fix the economy with tariffs and you know,
federal cuts. He said that those things were going to
be the solution. Whereas now we're seeing him as the problem.
They're clearly spiking inflation, clearly, you know, jobs numbers have tanked,
and this is expectations of inflation. And you know presidents

(02:44):
will have these dips in approval rating when you get
these high expectations of inflation.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
People think it's coming. And I also believe that it is.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
It is, you know, I think in the next month
is when we'll really start to see this is what
we predicted, you know, in the in the spring, right
like we were saying the impact of Trump's economic agenda's
really not going to come to fruition until a few
months down the road. And we're there now, right And
you've been seeing it in the last few reports.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
And at some point, I mean, and I don't know
that we have any real numbers in our pocket on
this right now, but at some point you end up
with this idea that the economy becomes an unspinnable question.
We see a lot of people who, in the early
part of this administration, Republicans are particularly, were very optimistic economically.

(03:35):
But at some point, when you're paying that higher bill
at the grocery store or at Target, or at Walmart,
or at the gas.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Pump, oop, I lost you there for a second. Can
you guys hear me? That's my audio?

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Did you ever hear me?

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Did you guys lose me?

Speaker 4 (04:01):
I think we lost you. I don't know if a
mine was.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Out, Sorry about that.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
What I was saying was, at some point, when people
are paying higher prices at the grocery store and at
Target and Walmart and hobby lobby and the gas station,
the illusion cannot be sustained anymore. They can't pretend, Okay,
I'm gonna do great. Everybody else is gonna get fucked.
I'm gonna do fine. Everybody else is gonna get screwed.
That's okay with me. They can't pretend that because they're

(04:27):
the ones now who are taking the brunt of this
economic pain.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Right.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, And you know it's one of the magic of
the Trump campaign from the last go around was the
idea of the golden age, and you know, that is
really attractive for a lot of sure, you know, you
know what is.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
Right.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
It means you know, you get a raise, you know
your you know, property taxes go.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Down, whatever.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
But that's just not happening. And Trump's policies are not
geared for that anyway. I mean, Tariff's is his own
obsession with them is really what's done him in I think.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
He doesn't have logic behind his his economic policy and people.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
They bought him noted while they bought it for a
while though and now but but you know, like we've
spoken about before, it is that moment where the reality
collides with the spin and the spin loses to the reality.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
And then for people messaging on this, I would say
that cognitive dissonance is one of the most powerful tools
that we have to break people away from maga.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
It's that is the best way we can do this.
And we should always be talking.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
About how, you know, Trump's Trump's you know image of
the economy does not match with reality.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Whatsoever, you know, you know, going ratching the focus out
a little more broadly, there are a lot of of
of belief inside this White House. For people I've spoken
to around the Trump world around the White House, in
the White House, that they're just gonna muscle through, that
they're just gonna take control of things and that, and

(06:06):
that they will be able to hold the House because
of that. You know, we're strong on crime and immigration. Uh,
they're weak.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
And and.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
A lot of people though in current polling, in this
new polling we're seeing they are very concerned about Trump
authoritarian overreach. There is a real I gotta do these folks.
I'm sorry to put a hat on, but by the
glare is killing me here. The authoritarian overreach is now
creeping into the actual polling.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Talked to us a little bit about that.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, it's none too surprising when Trump is deploying troops
on this tree. There's not a way to speak of
things you can't spin. You know, deploying the military to
US cities is not to mean you can spin as
you know, a war on crime. The truth is that
that these guys in Washington, d c. Are patrolling the

(06:58):
national mall right, not patrolling you.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Know, the darker.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Dangerous parts of of you know, you know, inner cities,
just not the facts. So you know, you're not going
to see a perceptible change in the crime rate just
because these guys are walking around on the national mall right,
you know, with rifles.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
I just don't. I don't buy that. I mean crime
and crime.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
The attempt to link crime to the National Guard being
in the streets I think was always a bank shot.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
But what would I think, do we have a.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Slide for that, for that new survey that I put
put in the chat about the overreach, we have a
slide for that?

Speaker 2 (07:36):
I don't know if we do or not.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
I think we had it on the Oh.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Maybe I can't see it on the folks. I'm broadcasting
from my phone, so pardon, pardon me for being an
idiot and getting my car blocked in.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yay, it happens.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
But but the the idea that that Trump is is overreaching,
I think is a very interesting political dynamic because as
he weakens on the key issue of the economy, as
he weakens on the key power play issue of this
extensive overreach of government, I think it all starts to
come together with a very sort of toxic brew for

(08:14):
twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
It makes it.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
I think there's another element. I think there's another element too.
I think dealing with the immigration issue is sort of
a double edged sword.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
And we've talked about this before.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
You know, he didn't want the immigration bill during Biden's
term to go through because it was a good political.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
Issue for him.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Now, for all that, I disagree with the way he's
managed Ice domestically, he has closed the border. The border
is not that people are not coming in through the
South southern border anymore. And you know his rating on
border security and the Fox newspapl is great.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
One is this one strong isn't as it one of
his few net positive numbers.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Right, So he's essentially I wouldn't call it solving the problem.
I would say it's sort of deferring the issue.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
But he has sort of.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Stopped immigration as being this massive, you know, political poll
for a lot of people, and I think he's reversed
it in some ways with what Ice is done.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
So yeah, he's.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
I hope that he is damaging himself significantly enough to
hurt these down ballot candidates. I really hope that's the case,
and I do think it is. And you can see
I know we have a slide for this about Bucks County.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yet County, that's one of our bell Weather districts. Folks
in the country, Bucks County, Pennsylvania outside and it's a
suburban county outside of Philadelphia, and it is the classic
East Coast swing county.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Right, So this is Pennsylvania's first congressional district and Bucks
County is essentially the whole district.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
That's a little reductive, but that's that's the case.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
So Trump's number is at forty disapproval in this in
this uh county.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
It's currently held by Brian Fitzpatrick.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Right, GOP I would say he's somewhat of a moderate,
but he's one of our targets in this next year
because you know, he's in a district where we can
put up a win for the pro democracy side, and
you know, getting Republicans out of.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Office is really the top priority.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
And with Trump sinking in a Bellweather county like this,
and we talked about this county in twenty twenty four,
twenty two, in twenty twenty and this is seriously, this
is one of the swingiest parts of the country. And
Brian Fitzpatrick is gearing up for a massive spend in
this race.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Right.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
He's got about six and a half billion dollars in
the bank as as the last filing.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Man for congressional race.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Folks, You got to understand that is that is real
money for a congressional race, even.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
In a big match.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
Think about this.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
A lot of these other swing districts, you know, most
of these incumbents have about one point five. I think
Fitzpatrick is gearing up for a serious assault in his district.
He is in one of the closest. It is one
of them good to people of the narrowest margins you'll
see in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
I suspect, you.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Know, somebody else said to me today about Bucks County
that that a guy who's very smart about Pennsylvania who
said to me today, he said, Look, they were always
open to the low tax, strong, strong on crime message
from Trump. But it's all that was when prices were low.

(11:26):
That's when when they thought that that the inflation would
be reversed by now. That's when they thought that that
immigration reform meant closing the border, not getting not not
arresting their gardener and their and their you know, mother's
home healthcare aid.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Now. So it.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
The persuasion matrix there, I think is not in the Republicans.
I think the vector of that of that district is
not in the Republicans favor right now, it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
Even in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
I mean, think about this, that Patrick, who represents the district,
ran seven points ahead of Donald Trump, where Harris won
the district by a point. So you know, this is
not this is not a district that's you know, necessarily
it's a de plus one. You know, we can pick
up this seat under the right circumstances. Now, I expect
Fitzpatrick to spend a ton of cash on this race,

(12:20):
and it looks like that's what he's going for.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
And his problem is even among the Magas, he has
not beloved. The committee will do everything they can for
him to preserve absolutely, but MAGA voters don't love this guy.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
They think he's a squish, right, Yeah, they see him
as a rhino, And that term was tossed around for
Fitzpatrick in this last cycle left and right.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Does he have a Republican primary yet?

Speaker 1 (12:42):
I keep hearing rumors, but I haven't followed up on it.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
I don't think it's a serious primary. To be honest
with you, I'm you know, one of the things I've
noticed about a lot of the races that we're targeting
this year and of course they're all Republican seats. These
guys don't have a lot of really substantial challenger and
you know that could that could be uh could be

(13:05):
a wing sign for Democrats. You know, when Republicans aren't
tearing at each other, they are pretty good at tearing
up Democrats.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah, that is, that is you know, it is a
skill set we have to admit that they have.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
I'm wondering if you think that that.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
If we go into next year with a recession perception
economy or a recession economy. The polling on the Big
Bad Bill has been pretty weak.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Fitzpatrick wasn't vote for it.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yes, are you seeing yet anything in the numbers that
that is a competitive advantage for Democrats on that the
hospital closures, the Medicare, Medicaid cuts, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, I mean, healthcare is one of the strongest issues
for Democrats, just for bar None. You can see it
across a lot of polling.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
And one of the things you can.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
See in the the news about these races, especially in Arizona,
I've noticed is that constituents and candidates are pissed off
about Medicaid and Medicare, and that is going to become
a serious issue for a lot of these Republican candidates
in swinging districts. You know, you get enough people who
Medicare and Medicaid beneficiaries.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
I mean, you could swing think about this.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
I think there's something like thirty percent of people in
Arizona's first district are eligible.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
So I do think that we'll.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
See everybody anyway Arizona.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, yes, yes, I do think we'll see that healthcare
becomes a strong answer for Democrats, terribly bad for Republicans
based on what.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
They've done in the Big Ugly Bill. Although you know,
people aren't talking about the Big old Bill, they're talking
about Epstein. Yeah, we'll talking about Epstein.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
To me, I think it's remains the through line underneath
this this presidency, the cover up of the Epstein matter
remains the thing that, as as David Brooks just points
out in the chat, that petrifies Trump. You know, Michael
Wolfe this morning said he'd been doing some reporting with

(15:16):
you know, on the White House, and the feeling in
the last twenty four hours was twofold one. It's Stephen
Miller is shaping all this culture war strategy about Charlie
Kirk's death and two that they said, oh now it's
finally not Epstein all the time. Now we can make
it Charlie Kirk all the time.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Folks. I will tell you this, it will not work.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
It will not work.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
It will not work.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
The Charlie Kirks story, as hot as it is right now,
on Friday morning, it will fade.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
They're going to try anything.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
I want to say, harder in a state, you know,
a state figure. But it at the end of the day,
America is pretty awfully numb to tragedy like this.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
And you know, I the one to I will say,
and the one thing I've been thinking about a lot
after this correct thing, and that we don't have to
talk too much about it because it's dreadful.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
You're looking for somebody to blame. Blame the president. It
is his fault.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
He is the you know, ultimately on any issue, could be,
could be anything you pick out of a hat. The
president is responsible for our safety and he failed. And
then I think it's because of the incompetence he has
of the FBI.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
You know.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, well you want to blame someone their time covering
the party himself, not looking for random mass shooters.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
No, well, similar they are not shooters, you know.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
But I again, I've been talking to a lot of
people in the last twenty four to forty eight hours
about this, and folks, I want to ratchet back the
aperture a lot. The Republican Party right now is looking
at this as a cultural war hook. Why do you
think they immediately and from what we can tell, falsely,

(16:56):
immediately went to the it's a trans shooter.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
It's a trans shooter.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
This is their culture war cabinet of the demons that
they always want to trot out. By the end of
the day, if he's not trans, he'll be Antifa or
Black Lives Matter or whatever they make up.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Because it's all made up. It's all just bullshit.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
But elections in this day and age run faster than
they used to. Yeah, this stuff will percolate out of
our body politic faster than you think it always does.
I mean, when you look at the impact of other shootings,

(17:35):
you know, of Tree of Life, Synagogue, of the state
senators in Minnesota, of El Paso. There's a lot of
violence in this country that is unaddressed and unsustainable. But
making this story, trying to trying to reformat Charlie Kirk

(17:58):
into a first and moment warrior when he was essentially
kind of a outright trustler.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
You know. Shot.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
It doesn't mean anybody should have attacked him, but it
means that it will be harder to lionize him as
Martin Luther King, which is what Republicans were comparing him
to yesterday. Which yeah, I don't know if it's an
absurdity or an obscenity or.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Both both, I would say. I think one of the
things that that gets me is like.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
If regularly online on YouTube, on TikTok and Instagram, you
see clips of people, you know, Charlie Kirk gets owned
liberal crack, liberal showdown with Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
Right, he wasn't you know, he wasn't going out.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
There and you know, winning all these arguments he was,
you know, no, he was getting beat by people. But
that doesn't just regardless, killing Charlie Kirk does not do
anything to attack his ideas.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
It just destroys his body.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
You know.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Well, what the shooter has done I think is incredibly selfish.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
But if somebody said today, I would have much rather
Charlie Kirk lived the long life and seen all of
his ideas fall into the dustbin of history, right, Yes,
I folks.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
I mean, and I know we didn't really mean to
get off on this digression. But but.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
There's an interesting thing about Charlie Kirk is that in
his last weeks on this earth, he was one of
the people who was nervous about the Epstein that matter,
who had the White House directly call him. And I
heard it was a direct call from the President to him.
I don't know if that's true or not, but I
heard that from one of my I'm going to put
that person as a reasonably reliable source in the troph.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Hell Joe Rogan, and Joe Rogan confirmed it live, so
I cannot be surprised if he was hitting up his
media contacts or on this prote story.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
He was one of those people who was still very
nervous about this. And it's interesting. She's deleted the tweet now,
but a couple of days ago, Laura Lumer issued this
long outrage tweet saying, Charlie Kirk a grifter. He's not
really Trump, He's an opportunist, he's a scumbag. He's you know,
he's using the Epstein file against Trump. I think this

(20:08):
issue wraps itself weirdly around Epstein in some ways, and
it doesn't. It doesn't erase the Epstein situation, especially because
we've now got Bloomberg with eighteen hundred.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Emails where we find out that Julane Maxwell lied where
she's talking, lied to Todd Blanche.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
I'm shocked that a sociopathic child trafficking pedophile would lie
to to La.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
I do think they are connected.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
I do think Epstein and Kirk are connected, just by
virtue of the FBI bungling both both of these things.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Imagine a bunch of podcasters running in the NBI. That
would be like putting us in charge of like a
neurosurgery unit somewhere.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
I mean, it's supposed to be the nation's premiere law
enforcement agency.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Yeah, and you've got fucking Cash Battel that at the head.
I just this is I said this in the spring.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
You know, if we face a national crisis, none of
our federal agencies are prepared to deal with it.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
They are not.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Equipped, They are not led by people who have any
kind of sense.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
I mean, Cash Fattel couldn't lead an investigation.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Of, you know, a missing taco at Taco bell I
really don't.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
He's he's a fool.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
The fact that they took them along this long to
find the shooter, I think has made things a lot worse.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, as we're recording this, they apparently have located the guy.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
You know, God blessed. Nobody wants a killer running around.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
But the theatricality of all things Trump, you know, in
this they were more concerned about how they looked on
social media. But I also think one of the most
interesting things we're going to face here in the next
couple of weeks. And folks, we're going to keep the
short the show fairly tight today because it's allowed here.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Sorry, I apologize.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
For some reason, there's a Platus PC twelve doing touch
and goes.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
It's military. I don't know why. There's a doing touch
and goes. I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
And Delta is taking its usual time to zip people
up to the beautiful city of Atlanta, because folks, we
live in Tallahassee, Florida, and if you live in Tallhassee, Florida,
even if.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
You want to go to actually one place to go.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
But you know, I do think, I do think that
Trump has had a had a a strange and terrible week. Again,
I don't think this week helps him in the long term.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
It might in the short term.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Juice the MAGA movement because they're all together hating one
group of people, which is Democrats, who they accused of
killing Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Although they are they are tearing at each other's throats
about you know, I remember yesterday scrolling through seeing the
conspiracies about Israel, you know, murdered Charlie Kirk, and it's
just like there's.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
There is a strong stretch of the QAnon types who
are like, oh, he confronted Israel two days ago and
now massade killed him.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
I mean, they can't get on board in the same
conspiracy theory.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
It's like, yeah, pick a pick a baroque conspiracy theory
and ride with it.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
But yeah, so we look focs.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
It's the end of the summer and we're now entering
into the twenty six campaign, and I want to just
take a minute because I know a lot of people
in every part of our world and Lincoln Project of
Lincoln Square, folks who follow me on my substack and
my podcasts, Folks that I just know they're all asking
does this change the future? Does this make twenty six different.

(23:36):
And it's not an aspersion on Charlie Kirk or or
or a minimization of the tragedy that we're we witnessed
yesterday or the other day. But campaigns have a life
that revolves around real people every day and what they're
doing every day in their world.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
And the economy will drive that number.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
As you get closer, the economy becomes more pendent as
an issue you and a lot of the tricks that
the Trump Mago world has been so successful in using
in campaigns have now begun to lose their effectiveness. The
culture war stuff. You know, even the slowest friends, our

(24:18):
slowest friends in the Democratic Party are getting that the
culture war stuff works a certain way.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
And how do you neutralize it? You do like Gavin does?

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Right, Oh hey, Gavin Newsom had some great pulling out
this week.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
In fact, sure did he is. He is inching closer
to that that twenty five percent number.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
That you look for, Yeah in the primary, you know.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
In a primary candidate, it's almost there.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah, he really look and look, whether you love or
hate Gavin Newso, folks, he's earning his way into the fight,
into the back. He's buyt he's he's put hisself out
there and people are buying what he's selling. That that's
that's politics in America.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
And I agree.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
I want to say this again to like wrap this up, folks.
Donald Trump is the weakest president in a midterm election
we have had in a very long time. He is
politically now weaker than Barack Obama was in something for
the twenty ten election. He is weaker than Bill Clinton

(25:19):
was going into the nineteen ninety four election. He is
weaker than George W. Bush was going into the two
thousand and six election. This is a mid term where
Donald Trump's name does not appear on the ballot. Charlie
Kirk's name does not appear on the ballot. Sean Hannity's
name does not appear on the ballot. Laura Lumer's name
does not appear on the ballot, or if it did,

(25:39):
she'd lose again because she's lost.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
I guess it's two elections now.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
But all these things, folks, this campaign ahead of us
will be about what Trump has done in this White
House to the people of this country economically and spiritually
and politically.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
And it's an ugly picture for him.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
So well, Andrew, Thanks as always, We'll be backing in
with you folks next Friday. I will be in the studio,
not in the hangar. I apologize for that once again.
I I'm trying to compress everything into my life into
like five minute windows. But folks, we appreciate you all.
Thanks for watching as always, and we will see you
again next Friday.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
All right,