Rick Wilson

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to Fast Politics, Rick Wilson.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Oh mally John Fast, Good to see you again. So always,
so many, so many days have passed.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Tom Holman, you may know him as.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
The future future recipient of a of a one way
trip to the Hague.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Okay, So the guy who runs jailing everybody, from congressional
candidates to members of Congress to people who are here legally.
Pretty much he's our jailer in chief. What's the news
that just broke about that guy?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
You know? It turns out that the FBI, undercover FBI
agents offered Tom Homan a fifty thousand dollars payment bride
if you will. I think that's the word we still
use in America.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
And technically bribery is still illegal hypothetically unless you remember
of the Trunk cabal, in which case, and I don't
know how this happened, Molly, with the with the rigid
ethical standards of today's Department Justice and.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
FBA, somehow, somehow this investigation got dropped, just some by
some strange legal twist of fate. Some omen walks free.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
So this is a story from MS now that got
broke today. But I just when we talk about this,
DOJ dropping investigation. So we had the Tom Holman investigation dropped,
we had all the charges against Trump dropped.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Jeffrey Epstein investigation covered up well, who even knows where
that is, but we did have one.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Gilaine Maxwell moved from a high security to a non
security right basically a SPA with the no one right
and no one else. Who is a who has a
sex trafficking You know, you can't. The kind of criminal
she is does not belong in the kind of jail
she is in now.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
However, as we now know, her status as a sexual
offender was changed so she could go there. And and
when Cash Battel was asked last week in a congressional hearing,
how did that happen? His answer was there was a
lot of legalism, but it was like ahamahammahammahammadahamanahamanahammada.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, and cash Battel, I mean the Cash Battel hearing.
I'd love to go back to that for a minute,
because one of the incredible things about that hearing was
basically he either he doesn't know anything, which is certainly possible.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
It's in the range of possibility he is not.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Telling the truth about anything, also possible.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Much more likely. Oukham's razor seems to point that direction.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Is there another Is there something behind the third door?

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yes, he's leading or helping to lead a massive government
cover up where he recognizes that every word out of
his mouth in a congressional hearing is probably going to
be perjury. And he better hope Donald Trump stays alive
for four more years so that there's a part of
federal prison.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
So you can.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, and I will just say this make I hope
that we have an election in twenty twenty eight. I
hope a Democratic candidate wins, and I hope that they
definitely positively never consider Merrit Garland for any role. Yeah,
I think, because I want somebody who goes in there
on day one and they were having arrests on day three.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
I don't want to squander any time on Merrick Garland.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Bible.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, right on Merrick Garland. But I do think this
is not okay now what I think. I'd love to
talk about Kimmel with you for another minute. Yes, because
we're seeing in real time the pushback works and the
caving makes you you. If you cave, you have no
legal remedy for anything you do, because when you cave,

(03:44):
you enter an illegal agreement with Donald J. Trump, who
will never be satisfied by what you give him.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Molly listen, I mean if if Bob Iger, who before
this was considered like a really good CEO. Before this, right,
people thought of Boba as as an ethical and smart guy.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
I understand this wife has a free speech charity. Continue,
who runs a journalism program, Yes, the journal. Yes, when
bob Iger did this. First off, Bob Iger was around
for the agreement on the on the ABC payment. Okay,
the fifteen million dollars settlement, that was not necessary that
they when to cover the Stephanopols case. It was not necessary,

(04:25):
as the Times this week right, right, as the Times
Preme this week say no, tell them that fuck off
and move on. But Wall Street Journal New York Times
both did the right thing and both are winning in court.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Or Trump threaten to assume me for a billion dollars
a week before last, and my response has been literally
my lawyer said. In to his response, go fuck yourself.
Iger went to the alter of shareholder value and said, oh,
I've got it. But here's what's going to happen. Watch
what happens to Disney Stock tomorrow. The early selling is
already ugly, and I it's going to be really hard

(05:01):
for the Maga masses to wake up and go, oh,
the company that we hate because they're so woke about
the gays. Remember DeSantis and the Maga people and helly
war with Disney because Disney is libtard woke culture war
blah blah. They're not going to go out of memestock Disney, right.
And so Bob Iger is about to get the worst

(05:22):
of all possible worlds. And then when that's over, he's
going to get a phone call from Trump said, Hey,
put my boy Don Junior on the board, right. What's
he gonna do? What's he gonna bet?

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Then?

Speaker 1 (05:33):
And that is what we're seeing across the board when
it comes to making peace with Trump. And before we
talk about the tech pars, I want to just do
one more beat on the Paramount merger because I think
it's so important. There's a woman called Cherry Redstone, daughter
of Sumner Redstone. She decides she's got to sell her

(05:54):
company to the to Sky Dance, which is owned by
Big Trump, be the Ellison's second richest man in the world.
So she's does these three things right. She settles rich. Well,
it's back and forth, right, but riches or second richest. Yeah,
he's very rich, is richer than we are. He does

(06:14):
she does. She does three things right. She pays, she does.
She pays off this frivolous CBS lawsuit which is bullshit,
which she would have won. She cancels Stephen Colbert because
on high they told her to. And the third thing
she does is she puts this on this man at CBS, okay, a.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Thought police representative approved by the administration.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
She does these three things. She paves the way. She
gets the Whites right, Well, she gets the that's she's
gone now. But she u because Sherry has gotten the
deal done, she's gotten her money, she's got out. She
thinks at the time this is not such a big
deal because she wants to get the murder done. But
what we see looking back is that every single small

(06:59):
decision and is like like this gets us to where
we are today. And so the road to authoritarianism is
paved with just small decisions to go along, to get along.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
It's paved with merger merger ambitions. And look, I think
that that you know the backstory of Next Star and
Sinclair going after Jimmy Kimmel through through Disney is because
they want their own merger ambitions approved. Next Star in particular,
wants to merge with Tegra, which is another chain of

(07:31):
TV stations, right of course, so they're going to play
the whole Maga role to the hilt all of this.
If you're if your god alan is quarterly stock report, right,
then you're going to say, screw it. We may hurt
some people, we may break democracy, but you know, at
least our our shareholders will be happy.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Right but the but ultimately, and this is why I
want to talk about the tech Visus, the h one
visus and the one hundred thousand dollars a year price
tag that Donald Trump has just put on them. So
a few things about this. It's yet another illegal thing
from the Trump administration. Yes, president does not set visus.

(08:12):
That is Congress. Now Congress has given up doing anything
because they don't want Trump to be mad at them.
But there are still our courts that are not completely
in Trump's pocket. All of this is illegal. But more importantly,
and I think this is what I really want you
to talk about. This presidential proclamation is written so poorly

(08:36):
that believe it or not. Nobody even knows what the
fuck they mean. So here we happen.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
You could run through Chadgypt and it would say this
is obviously written by a meth ATel raccoon.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
This is written by Chadgypt, and Chadept is not where
it needs to be at this moment, as we're all seeing.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Molly, here's the thing, the h one b visas. And
I know that that Stephen Miller is at the center
of this particular thing, and Navarro is at that center
of this particular thing. So two people who are not
notoriously shall we say, Nobel Prize Economics winners in waiting,

(09:15):
they're not. They're not really good at this, though I
do think it's important.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Navarro is a lot stupider than Stephen Miller.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Oh yeah, and Navarro's that's a very low but it's
a low bar. But Steven Miller is not stupid. He's
just evil.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, but is working a whole crazy thing that we
don't Yeah, he's the RFK of Trade of trade.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, that's right, so Wally, I mean, what they don't
understand is when you read it, it's like, but I
can waive this if you're nice to me. This is
another Trump bribery scheme. But an awful lot of those
H one B v's of workers who come here in
Silicon Valley in the tech industry, a huge number of

(09:58):
them are here as sits and healthcare aids because that
is a giant, giant market that America's American workers have not,
do not want to, and will not fill. So these
these nurses who were coming over from Ireland and India
and Germany and all these other places, they're they're going, now,

(10:19):
We're going to blow a big hole in that market.
And I'm sorry, elon CHATGIPT cannot replace nurses and whole
healthcare aids well.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
But I also think look at Milania, it was an
H one B visa, so let it, you know, in
a genius visa, and so was.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
The she came in on an Epstein visa, right right exactly.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
I think it's called an E'nstein visa and not in
Epstein visa, but very nice.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
I get confused.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
But the point I think is that these tech companies
have worked so hard to suck up to Trump. I
mean that we had Tim Apple give Donald Trump a
twenty four carrot chachke to put in the White House.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Are you thinking about You've got Mark Zuckerberg, Jensen Wang,
Tim Apple, Larry Ellison, Yeah, Jarry, all of these people
H one B visa workers make up a meaningful fraction
of their employees.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
And it's one of the biggest users of H one.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Absolutely And and you know who else uses H one
B visas? Donald Trump, Right, an awful lot of the
hospitality workers he has at mar A Lago and Bedminster
and these other clubs and these other buildings are here
on H one B visas and an eight Yeah, an
H one B visa costs five thousand dollars two right now,

(11:42):
that seems like a lot, but it's not that much
for company, for most companies, But one hundred thousand dollars
means that Trump will have them in his pocket and say, Okay,
you're gonna have to either pay me a bribe or
or or your company is gonna buy into my crypto
or whatever scam of the week he's running. And it's

(12:02):
also and I know, I know this is going to
upset the magas, but an awful lot of people who
come to this country on H one B visas meaningfully
contribute to our economy. They pay taxes here it's also
going to blow a hole in the economy, and it's
just nuts. We're gonna and we're going to send very
talented scientists and computer science folks and medical researchers to China.

(12:27):
That's where they're going to go. They're going to go
to China, right.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
But I also think it's important to realize here that
when this presidential proclamation was proclamation was issued, there was
so much confusion that different companies send emails to their
employees like don't leave the country, get back as soon
as you can there and it's going to be like

(12:54):
a nightmare on airports. And also it's probably not legal,
and so it's going to get over turned in court.
So it's like, this is like I feel like it's
such a great example of trump Ism. It's like it
is like banana or a public staff.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
I can tell you that the chaos it's causing is
amateur hour and stupid in every way. But it is
causing a lot of people. I know. I know again
the Maga folks think, oh if if foreigners are afraid,
it must be good. But it's calling a lot of
fear and chaos. In disruption, there will be an economic
ripple effect on this because they're stupid. These people who

(13:31):
are doing this are stupid. And again, if you want
to help China become the dominant economic power in the world,
this is how you do it. You throw talented people
who want to come to America and do research and
do work and pay taxes and who are here legally
because I remember this is also Reveal's part of the
Maga y oh legal integration. As fuck. No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
No, they don't like it, it's not.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
This is what they're trying to do. And I got
to tell you my partner, Renee, my fiance's we have
scientists from all over the world who are now paralyzed.
They're like, I can't go home, I can't come back.
What the hell do I do?

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Right, we're already seeing the numbers right that the economy
is not the economy it was nine months ago. We
see the tariffs, We saw the Bureau of Large of
Farm Labor Statistics just delayed and we're not gonna.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Talk about inflation and maybe it'll just go right.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
And I feel like you don't if the last head
of the bureau got fired for bad numbers and then
you decide not to release numbers. That's probably because those
numbers are not great.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
I am guessing if inflation had dropped significantly, they would
be having a ribbon cutting ceremony. They'd be setting off fireworks.
It would have been the sea I told you so,
blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
And part of trump ISM's obsession right now, Trump's obsession
with crime, right, His obsession with crime, his obsession was
rolling in the National Guard to different cities, is because
he thinks crime is a winner for him and he
doesn't have anything else because he's underwater. Talk to me
about those polls.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Oh my god, listen. My son Andrew is a brilliant
young pollster, and about a month ago he says to me,
I think we're at the bottom. I don't know how
he goes any lower than this. On the economy, in particular,
Trump is now so far underwater on the economy, it's
tw He's twenty seven percent negative on information and crisis.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
And that was his big winner. That was the thing
where he might have been. People didn't like this, they
didn't like that, but they always thought he.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Was a better, a good businessman, he understood the economy,
and he's upside down on everything. Now fifty one percent
of Republicans have a negative or very negative view of
the economy. I mean, he is and his approval ratings
now are in the mid thirties thirties. And if you

(16:02):
if you look at the correlation of Trump's approval and
the economic numbers, it is very strong, and it is
going down very quickly. Nothing, nothing, There are no upside numbers.
About a month ago, he was still net favorable on
protecting the border, right, even that's underwater. Now the whole

(16:23):
thing is collapsing. And this is why I tell Democrats,
do not be afraid now to confront him. Eventually, eventually
even his Republican you know minions in the House and Senate,
they're gonna have to run for the exits at some point. Go,
I got to protect myself. Boss.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
When you watch these companies cave to him, you have
to realize, like, and I think Target is a great example.
So Target went anti DEI because whatever, and now their
numbers are way down. This is not rockets ions, Like,
people don't like this. It's not popular.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
None of the things that he's doing outside of the
MAGA base itself, and even inside the MAGA base, a
lot of them are no longer. The crime stuff, the
racism stuff, the populism stuff, that's still pretty much worse
with the base. But there's a problem he's gonna have
any that he's already having. And the reason that negative

(17:20):
economic number of even Republicans saying they're unhappy is because
it's not spinnable. When you're in the grocery store. When
that maga mom who may who may not love wokeness
is in Target or Walmart or or the gas station
or the grocery, those numbers are real, she's gonna have
to pay those or the man's going to fill his

(17:41):
tank at five bucks a gallon instead of the promised
dollar eighty five or whatever. Yeah, all of it. Eventually,
even Trump's bullshit machine collide, is collides with reality, and
it's colliding really ugly in the polling.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, and I think I think that's a really good
point and that's what we're seeing and that's why these
come buties need to stop being fucking cowards. Yes, correct,
correct Wilson, Yes, w w Will you come back?

Speaker 2 (18:08):
You know I will every time