Rick Wilson

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Rip Wilson.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Hello, comrade, are you reporting from the Antifa Command and
Control Bunker?

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Okay, So, Republican Donald Trump has decided that the left
is now illegal the left. How does that work?

Speaker 2 (00:13):
It doesn't good, It doesn't work. Everybody should look at
it through two contextual lenses. One it's all Fox bait bullshit,
and two it's anything to stop the fact that people
are beginning to understand that he's going to shut down
the government this week to hide the Epstein files.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
We are hurtling towards the government. Shutdown could happen as
soon as Tuesday night at midnight. Put off, so not happen.
Donald Trump had a meeting with Jeffries and Schumer. He
canceled it. Then, in his infinite wisdom, he remade it
part of the deal. Why cancel it and then say

(00:56):
they can He supposedly this was reported. He said they
can off.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Look my take on it has always been there's no
deal to be made with these people. Schumer and Jeffries
both think that they're going to protect people's healthcare by
making a deal that keeps the ACA subsidies in place.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
If they have Republicans also want.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Of course, they do, of course they do. But here's
the thing. If they don't understand that funding the CR
continues to fund all of Trump's other project twenty twenty
five evils, and that Trump has consistently violated the law
and canceled or changed the funding levels or reassign the
funding of congression right of congressionally appropriated and authorized expenditures

(01:45):
over and over again. And this is this isn't like
Rick Wilson's lib TRD opinion. This is in the constitution, however, and.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Pocket recision in August Peace in New York Times tweeting
it today.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, that's what's going to what I think what Trump
would do. He would go into the Jeffries and Schumbern
say well, fine, all right, I'll keep the ACA stuff
in and then literally decides, oh, well, the Blue states
are in rebellion, so I'm canceling their part of the
ACA preservation. If he doesn't think they don't think that
this is what this guy's gonna do, or some similarly destructive, evil,

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crappy thing, then they should not be in the offices
they hold right now.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Correct Now, let's I want to go back to the
left being illegal. So this is like another one of
these Donald Trumpy proclamations. Ye, that has no legal anything
to it. Nope, but he desperately wants to investigate George
Soros and also Reed Hoffman, who is so afraid of

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being investigated by Donald Trump he no longer even lives
in this country.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Molly, Donald Trump understands one important thing that there is
no one in DC who is going to stop in.
No one, Supreme Court is not going to stop him.
Certainly the House aren't going to stop him. John Soon
that wet mattress isn't going to stop him.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Well, today on the Sunday Shows, when Wilker said, do
you think it's okay that Trump sends troops into cities,
thus violating the Posse Act, Soon says.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
What will stop him? And the only thing that's going
to stop him is losing the House. I don't buy
the argument that Trump wants to lose the House so
he can be a martyr again.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
No, absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
What will stop him is losing the House. Now, the
reason we're not going to get a cr this week
is that Mike Johnson cannot have the House in session
without having since Grialva won in Arizona, he cannot have
the House in session without the discharge.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Vote happening, so he has to he would swear, and
there's been a new seat, there's been a Democrat elected.
Now Democrats have the numbers to pass this Epstein Bell
that would in fact make it so.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
And by the way, on Friday, I spoke to somebody
in the Republican political orbit that expressed to me the
level of investment in the White House of panic in
this is through the roof. There's been some reporting on it,
but the way it was described to me of this
person was, this is an all hands on deck hole

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of government effort to stop this. They're doing everything they can.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
And by the House is out of session.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yes. I was also told he may declare this information
to be classified to prevent its release next week. So
we'll see if he does that. I don't think it
works for him the way he thinks it works. The
more he does this, the more people go, what is
in this thing? Is it a dead Is it a
dead girl or a live boy, or or a bunch
of goats? What is it?

Speaker 1 (04:55):
I mean, it is the stri sand effect, right, that
you're going to hide some thing by making such a
big deal that everyone's going to be interested in that.
I thought Mike Johnson had said he might not seat
that Congress.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
He has already said he won't seat her, even though
she won the race by almost forty points. Right, He's
always said he won't seat her because of of reasons.
He doesn't have a reason. He's just saying, you won't
do it. But he recognizes now that that the government
will shut down, and no one's going to say, by

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the way that the Republican line is, you're trying to
give you legals healthcare and freeom moment, nobody's gonna buy it.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
It is nobody gonna buy it because I feel like
a shutdown is a messaging war.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Here's the big part of it. If the economy was booming,
then the government shut down, everyone would go damn. That
might throw things off track. But Trump has already driven
the economy into the ditch. We're not reporting the inflation
statistics because do you think it's because they're great or terrible.
We're not reporting unemployment statistics.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Because because they bared the head.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Right, Yes, and this weird guy that he replaced him
with is like, now we're just not gonna report anything. Yeah,
We're just gonna stop we're not doing anything makes sense,
you know. But the left is illegal, right game, this.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Hour is made. You gonna meet with Trump also does
want a bailout for farmers who are being hurt by
his tariffs.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
You know what, Honest to god, Democrats, they do not
understand this yet. You notice all these articles these farmers
are like, our markets have collapsed, We're gonna lose our farms.
We're in economic calamity. Oh no, what was the reason
for that? Who caused that? What single individual caused that?
And I gotta tell you something. If Jeffries and Schumer
walk in there without a demand to Trump, yeah, we'll

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pass relief for farmers. Undo the tariffs right now, right now.
Give Congress back the power to do its tariffs and
to set tariffs right now. They should not negotiate with
a terrorist. He is a terrorist. They don't understand this rule.
We've seen a lot of maga in the last week
to ten days trying to whip up this frenzy and
Tia in Portland, we must invade the city, total war.

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You know, I was in Portland, Brenanda were in Portland
in January, and the charming coffee shops and boutiques downtown
did not strike me as Mogadishu circa nineteen ninety one.
And it's but it's a sign of how desperate they
are and how bad Trump's political standing is right now.
He needs to shake the tree. He needs to shake
things up and do something so that people don't every

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day focus on how bad the economy is. And by
the way, Democrats, if they do end up in this
messaging war about the shutdown and farmers, there's a very
simple answer. Have the day you voted for, we tried
to help you. Donald Trump is the one who did
this to you. Donald Trump is the one who did
this to you. Not a single Democrat set a tariff
that has screwed American farmers an agg Not a single

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Democrat set those tariffs.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Not a single demorc canceled the foreign aid right.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Not a single Democrat decision killed the usaid budget, which
paid American farmers an awful lot of money every year
to help feed impoverished people around the world. Not a
single one. So I mean, I wish we could declare
stupidity to be illegal, but we we clearly cannot in
this country. And what Trump has done is unbelievably stupid
and the harm that is being done to these farmers.

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You know, look, the Democrats have this this health care,
health care. Health care is the only thing that matters.
They think it's the only they think it's the one
sharp knife in the entire tool of the drawer. They
are tariffs. The people hate it and they feel it
and it's hurting them every single day. And if you
don't put the tariffs onto Trump, the White House will

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say we didn't. We didn't, we didn't set those chairs,
We didn't cause China to cancel this contracts right right now.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
It's true.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
You're not going to win back a lot of maga
voters if you're for the Democrats, by the way, by saying, oh,
poor babies, we'll we'll fix the problem Donald Trump caused
for you love us now, because you know what they'll
do the second they do. They're like, well, I didn't
want to have them pet a we bail my farm out,
but I had to.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
I just wonder how you make a deal with a terrorist, right,
I mean that's the question. How do you make a
deal with someone you know will reap? I mean, this
is the problem that all of our allies are having too.
How do you make a deal with the country you
can't trust.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Listen Schumer and Jeffreys. Like Schumer had a terrible tweet
on Sunday, it was like, oh, Donald Trump's any troop Supportland.
Maybe focus on preserving healthcare instead. It's so tone deaf,
it's so tone deaf.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Well, you don't have to choose, right.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
No, you don't. It's not an either or They should
walk in that room and say, f you either undo
the tariffs right now or you get no aid for
your farmers. And the Republicans in these red states whose
people depend on Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and an ACA,
they're going to be coming to you, pal, not us.

(09:52):
We didn't cut it. We ain't man for it. You're
the one who cut those things. You're the one who
has had the state desire from the very beginning of
your first campaign in twenty sixteen to burn the ACA
to the ground, right.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Right, No, it's true, and there's and you know Trump
has said as much. You know.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah. The other thing you mentioned is like, how do
you negotiate with the terrorists? How do you negotiate with
a person who's senior aide Stephen Miller is calling all
Democrats part of a global terrorist effort to destroy America.
How do you negotiate with a White House that put
out a hit list of Democratic leaders now this week,
a hit list that MAGA has decided is a hit list.

(10:35):
How do you negotiate with people who say that you
are terrorists, traders, murderers, pedophiles, criminals, globalist, shills. Whatever the
phrase you want to pick, they're going to use it
on you. You don't negotiate with those people. There can
be only one outcome if you negotiate with them is
that they will betray you. They will screw you over,
they will put you in the ground, and God forbid.

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I know, I know as an ex Republican and a
lot of Democrats like, well, if we can win on policy, sir, no,
no you can't.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, you can't. I mean, at least Jeffries and Humor
are aligned that they both want they both which they
have that they were not in March, So if any
we have that, But it's more like I just think
they can't explain it in a way that you know,
if you say tariffs, we want you to end the

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tariffs and we'll give you the bailout. That makes a
lot of sense versus like a twenty five line soliloquy
on healthcare and premiums. I'm not sure people understand premiums.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
No, they don't, of course, it's a classic democratic bank
shot problem. Well, they'll they'll they'll see their bill rise
and they'll understand that if we had negotiated a cr
with these provisions. They will never do that. Voters will
never do that. In fact, I'm going to I'm gonna
get in trouble for saying this. I want voters to
suffer right now. I want them to experience the pain

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of Donald Trump's mistakes. Democrats should not relieve Donald Trump
of the political burden he has placed on the Republican Party.
They should not save him. They're going to save him.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
And that's why a lot of Republicans want those subsidies.
And that's why, you know, the problem with the twenty
twenty four cycle was you would say to voters Trump
wants to take this stuff away, and they'd say, no,
he didn't last time, right, right, So if he didn't
do it last time, why would you do it this time?
And that created a lot of incentive structure for Trump.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
The other thing that Democrats if they vote for the CR.
I know it's only a seven week CR, right right,
If they have this illusion that will fight the fight later.
That's seven more weeks of Stephen Miller's secret police forces
being in our streets funded fully. That's seven more weeks
of Russell Vought running the Project twenty twenty five agenda.
That's seven more weeks of Brendan Carr trying to shut

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down free speech with broadcast networks. That's seven more weeks
of Donald Trump deploying Pete Hegseth to drag four hundred
generals into a room for whatever mysterious goddamn reason. That's
seven more weeks of Donald Trump burning down the economy.
They are there if they relieve him of this, of

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the pain he's going to cause American voters, they are
fools writ large.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
But if we hurtle into a shutdown, which is very possible,
then you have a question of who can withstand the
most pain.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
The Democrats are in the minority. They don't have any
responsibilities in Washington. The White House is controlled by MAGA.
The House is controlled by MAGA, the Senate is controlled
by MAGA. The Supreme Court is controlled by MAGA. Nobody
thinks that Democrats can do shit about fuck right now, Molly,
So they might as well just say let it burn.
It's all on you, Donald.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
But eventually someone's gonna I mean, so Russ Vaughan has
this memo that he's going to fire everybody in the world.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, I mean, let him do it. Let them do it,
Let them do it. It will hasten the economic collapse
into a massive recession. We're already teetering on it. It
will hasten the economic collapse. That Donald Trump owns lock
Stock and Beryl. He has done this to us. There's
been zero democratic voice or role in designing this economic calamity.

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And this is where Trump's own arrogance it will doom him.
He's I'm in charge of everything. I run everything. No
one can do anything without me and my and my permission. Okay,
you're right, boss, that's what you did, has You're right.
You burn it all down. By the way. The idea
that voters will reward democrats for being responsible leaders.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Right, that's never happened ever, Right, I mean, that's never
never in the history of that right, right, And that's true.
And I do think, yeah, voters will never reward that
kind of behavior. So you could get into a shutdown
and you think eventually Trump will cave, because he has
historically caved.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
The problem is the longer we're shut down, the now.
The one upside for Trump in a shutdown is the
longer we're in a shutdown, he will just say I
can't release the Epstein file, So sorry, guys down. That's
the only upside for Trump. And it should tell you
everything about this that they understand this very intimately. They
get the political delaying factor that this will cause.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
And you have voting in New Jersey, not New Jersey
yet coming Virginia.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Voting Virginias and New Jersey I think is next soon,
Wednesday soon.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
I mean, how does that factor.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well look in New Jersey. I think Cheryl's in pretty
good shape. In Virginia, the Republican candidate is historically bad, yes,
and that is causing a lot of sears. Yes, when
the Republicans picks Winston sears, they weren't sending their best.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
That is, she's she's like, she's really up there with the.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
It proves that point that it's really hard for MAGA
to scale when it's not Donald Trump. We've been talking
in a deep red state or district.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
We have been talking about MAGA scaling for like we've
been doing this for a fucking decade. Yeah, and it's
so sad, but it is true. We've gotten so much,
We've gotten so old. As much as trump Ism is
terrifying at this moment, there have been so many losses
that I don't think people have. I mean, I just

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want for two seconds because I was, I was on
TV earlier and the block before me, there was like
a reporter, a White House reporter who came from the caller,
who was notching through all of Trump's wins, and I
you know, and maybe he'll go to Portland, but like
he didn't go to Chicago. What he did in LA

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was considered illegal. I know he doesn't care about illegal.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
But it was.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
He has He lost on the Chimo fight, right, lost
against Sinclair. Who if there ever were a group that
wanted the best for Donald Trump, Cla Claire. Okay, so
these are already three big losses then, you know. I
mean there's been you know, in court again and again,
except when it comes to the Supreme Court because they're

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his buddies. But I mean, he has really this has
not been the cake walk, he plays it to bey.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
No, Molly, Look, I think this is really important to understand.
Donald Trump is a historically unpopular president. About a third
of America loves Donald Trump with the fire of a
billion suns. The rest of America is on a scale
somewhere between disappointment, dislike and would not piss on him
if he was on fire. This is not a popular president.

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His numbers are in the mid thirties, now creeping toward
the low thirties. His numbers on the most important leadership
valence right now the economy, are insanely underwater. He's twenty
to twenty seven points underwater on various economic scoring things
like the tariffs, like like prices, like jobs. No one

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believes in the economic vision that Donald Trump has created,
including a majority of Republicans. Yeah, they understand that he
is an incompetent. The craziness was always excused in the past,
but now you can't excuse it anymore. You can't pretend
it doesn't exist anymore. You can't pretend it doesn't have
a direct and immediate impact anymore, because it does. Mike Wilson,

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Molly John Fast