September 25, 2025 ｜ Hosts: Maya & Rick Wilson

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, folks, and the Epstein files have been Oh wait,
they haven't been. We're still in the largest government cover
up in history.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
So many cover ups. The breakdown starts now. Well, absolutely

(00:28):
nothing happened since we were gone, right, And it's.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Been so calm.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
I'm really glad we were able to take a little
while out of the spotlight and nothing went off the
rails at all in the country. There's been no further
descent into fascism, no wild horrifying developments, and the president
has become much more stable, calm, rational and driven by metrics,

(00:52):
data and objectivity.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Oh yes, he's a unifying force. He's bringing the country together.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
He's really healed this name's wounds at this point, and honestly,
we should all just be grateful to him.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
I thank you, and by that, folks.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
And by that, folks, I apologize for being gone.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
And while the gigantic volcano of insanity went off underneath
the entire country that's.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
On I actually it's because you left. I'm actually convinced
that you left and destabilized the entire ecosphere.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
And so randon I went to England for a little
vacation first and two and two years in change and
the number one story. Okay, for the entire time we
were over there, the number one story in the country
was that the Deputy Prime Minister had not paid enough
taxes on a second home that she owned, and it

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was the.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Number one story.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
The number two story was will there be a strike
of subway workers? And that was the number two story.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
And it was like, like, oh my god, there's a
world where everything isn't burned me every single minute of
the day because a madman is in leadership.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
It really was striking.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
You bring up a good point, Rick, because it is
travel that often gives people perspective, and not a lot
of people have that opportunity to be able to take
a step back and see the big picture. Because it's
kind of like when you and you're in high school
and you leave for the summer and you come back
and you can see how much everything has changed. I
think a lot of people right now, if they were

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to just wake up in today's America versus eight months ago,
would be absolutely stunned. And so just even a short
time outside of the country, I'm sure, as a matter
of fact, I invite everybody exodus.

Speaker 6 (02:42):
Leave. Yeah, well.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
It really, it really was. I mean, I also want
to say shout out to all the Lincoln folks. The
Lincoln Project in England is so freaking popular that you
would be stunned, people like, oh my god, you're Rick Wilson.
We love the Lincoln Project. The Lincoln project is so great.
We need a Lincoln project here in England. Because right

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now Nigel Farage, the Brexit guy, is in the lead
to become the next prime minister. You'll never You'll never
believe that he's out there today saying I'm not I'm
not gonna do the Trump accent. I'm not gonna do
his accent.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
He's like, these immigrants so eating swans, they're eating the swans.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Does that so familiar to anybody? Anybody's hurt that one,
because I've heard that one before.

Speaker 6 (03:29):
All right, so here's what's happening. We're all moving to
England and just abandoning ship and we'll start the linkin.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
All right, I shall, I shall make the final purchase
of a castle somewhere in in Devon or in the Cotswalds,
or a manor.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
And uh yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
But the fact that they are trying to export fascism,
I think we can't skip over that no, we.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Really can't let that one go, honest answer. And of
course Nigel Farage is being advised by shocker Steve.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Bannon and Steven Miller. Who could have seen that coming?

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Gross?

Speaker 6 (04:03):
Okay, all right, well we have we've been off for
a long time, so we've got a lot to get
to Stateside.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Okay, okay, enough international travel in real estate.

Speaker 6 (04:12):
But you know, just just coming up on the show tonight,
and God knows what we will have missed because as
an as an announcement I have to make at the
top of the show. We're pre recording this on Wednesday afternoon,
and usually we would keep that a secret. But if
something crazy happens.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
If if I think when when that is not to
I don't want to let into existence, like but.

Speaker 6 (04:38):
If we don't get to it, we'll catch you on
the next show. But just things to look forward to. Tonight,
we'll be talking about Jimmy Kimmel's suspension, and then return
to air Trump's visit to the UN, Tom Homan taking
a fifty thousand dollars bribe bribe in a kava bag,
I believe, and Trump's executive order designating Antifa as a

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terror group and that's that's all before the lightning round.
But obviously, the big story is that Charlie Kirk was
murdered while speaking at a college in Utah last week?
Was it two weeks ago?

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Now?

Speaker 6 (05:15):
Time is a flat circle, but that was that has
been the big story driving all of this, and Rick,
I will let you take it from there.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, I want to say a few things about this, because.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
The the MAGA movement is terrific at finding what I
call imaginary demons, and so the moment after Charlie Kirk
was assassinated, it was ascribed variously to Antifa, to liberal democrats,
to liberal media, to trans people, god knows what else.

(05:51):
What we know about the killer so far, there's a
lot of dubious statements that have come out of the DOJ,
very very assertively, certain statements out of the DOJ, right
off the top, that mysteriously all fed directly into.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
The MAGA media machine and the narrative that they liked.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
But look, there was no one in this country of
decent character who thought, yeah, this is a great day
for America. There were a few people online on the left,
even a few weirdos on the Nick wint Has right
who said some really cruel and horrible things. I was
not one of them. We were not in that group.

(06:35):
As always, as people who have been through our own
death threats and threats of violence against our families, we
recognize this is a real problem in America, and Kirk's killing, ironically, strangely,
could have been a moment where we talked about those things,
where we talked about the forces that shaped those lost boys.

(06:58):
The kid that took a shot at Trump out in
Butler in twenty twenty four, we know nothing about him
because it doesn't fit the Maga narrative. He was a
straight white Republican kid raised in a straight white Republican household.
For what we know this kid, he was a Mormon
from a conservative Maga family who immediately the jump was oh,

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college radicalized him so greatly, and he might okay, he
spent one semester at a conservative university in Utah, and
then he went to and I know, you know, these
things are notorious hotbeds of radical Marxism. He went to
a trade in technical college to be an air conditioner tech.

(07:44):
We don't know why this kid did this yet, I
don't trust what the DOJ is saying about it. As
far as I can throw it, because it all seems
very neat and bundled and convenient. But we'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
I'm sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Well no, And I think you bring up a good
point because people keep trying to have the conversation about
what's going on with young men in America, and they're
having it from different perspectives of, oh, how do we
win this vote, but also the loneliness epidemic and the
addiction to the Internet, to what's happening in Discord and

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these gaming rooms, and so people are trying to have
the conversation, but that's not the conversation that the Trump
administration wants to have. And so and even now, as
you mentioned, like, there is an opportunity to have the conversation,
but you're not seeing executive orders coming out that are saying, Hey,
we'd like to examine what's going on with our young
men that they're feeling so disenchanted and disenfranchised, and how

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can we better support their needs, How can we increase
mental health services and fund those things in school. That's
not a conversation they're interested in having because that leads
to actual solutions, and instead they're just politicizing Charlie Kirk's death,
and there have been so many deaths that they are
and it's almost like depoliticizing in a way, like a

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politicizing it, I should say, by not talking about these deaths,
because these are actual things that could be solved with
policy issues. And the vast Americans don't want to see
their children suffer, whether it be because of being alienated
by the larger you know, demographic or mainstream, or because

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they're being pulled into whether it be gun violence or
you know, drugs or et cetera, and so, but you're
not seeing solutions. The conversation just stops and it's driving
me crazy.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Well, and it kind of should.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
And what we saw this weekend at the sort of
and I'm gonna I'm gonna get in trouble for saying this.
It's like the horse vesselization of Charlie Kirk. When when
a young SA Nazi activist was killed in nineteen thirty,
the Nazi Party turned him into an image, not the

(10:06):
real person. They turned him into a character for their story.
And what happens now with what you've seen happen now
is the demand from the Maga folks that anyone who
wants to quote Charlie Kirk what he really said about
things and people, they want them canceled, to remove from

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social media, remove from television, or remove from whatever, because
a lot of the things Charlie Kirk said a lot
of Americans disagree with. He said that black people lacked
the cognitive black women like the cognitive ability to function
in society. He said things, and I could go through
the catalog folks that were horrific and abusive and shitty

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and indicated a smallness of heart, mind and grace as
a human being.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Doesn't mean he should have been shot.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
It does mean that they're now trying to canonize him
and to motivate their political futures around someone who is
no longer with us, around a tragedy. These are people
are who are dancing in the blood that was left
where Charlie Kirk fell, and they will use this. It

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should tell you something about the MAGA movement that immediately
they jump to how can this benefit us politically? How
can this help us politically? And weaponization of grief is
something they're really trying hard at right now. But I
think they overran their marks the other day. I think

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you've seen it already the minute that Trump has asked,
like a few days after it happened, how are you
handling the death of your friend Charlie Kirk?

Speaker 5 (11:47):
He goes the wet Has ballroom would be so big
and beautiful. We're building it right now. I guess they
don't really care. Underneath, they want to ride the fame train.
They want to turn the social media system so they
can hurt their political enemies.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
And what did you see at that event?

Speaker 1 (12:08):
You sought that event over and over again, elected officials
and MAGA influencers, not blaming this young man, not analyzing
or knowing what he did, but by saying that Democrats caused.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
This, they caused him to die.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Folks, you are not in a world where you should
think that these people have any intention to have rational
dialogue or debate.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
And I feel like any parent watching when they see
Charlie Kirk's death get politicized and taken advantage of in
that way, they should ask themselves if they care so little,
if MAGA cares so little about Charlie Kirk, then as
far as like who he was as a human being,
that they would take advantage of his death to further

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push their movement further defy the country. Does that move
actually care about their sons? What solutions are being offered
for their sons. I think a lot of what's happening
right now is storytelling, and it's important for all of
us to ground ourselves in reality. And the reality is
the Trump administration is not offering anything to young men,

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and I think we have to keep coming back to
that over and over again. And I think just the
synthicism of Trump being on stage and having an opportunity
to talk to the young men of the country, and
he has a message not of love, not of unity,
but we have a clip, so we should roll it.

Speaker 7 (13:42):
In that private moment on his dying day, we find
everything we need to know about who Charlie Kirk truly was.
He was a missionary with a noble spirit and a great,
great purpose. He did not hate his opponents.

Speaker 8 (13:57):
He wanted.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
The best for them.

Speaker 7 (14:01):
That's where I disagreed with Charlie. I hate my opponent
and I don't want the best for them.

Speaker 8 (14:07):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
I am sorry Erica.

Speaker 7 (14:11):
But now Erica can talk to me and the whole
group and maybe they can convince me that that's not right.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
But I can't stand.

Speaker 7 (14:17):
My opponent.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Making it about him at Charlie Kirk's memorial service. That
is just par for the course of how he operates.
And I hope people wake up to that before it's
too late.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, And if you haven't noticed that everything Trump is
doing in the wake of Charlie Kirk's death to weaponize
the government against his political and his media critics, and
to do things like declaring and TUFA to be a
terrorist organization, but writing the executive order so broadly that
anyone who protests at an ICE event around ICE can

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be arrested.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
As Antifa, as a terrorist. This is a man.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Who is out of can in ways that we have
warned people about but that are becoming more pendent and
more dangerous as we speak.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Well.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, and he's trying to make an example of prominent
people like Jimmy Kimmel so that other people will still
stay silent. And we saw that it was the people
fighting back, and so I think that was a huge
misstep by the Trump administration because it gave the people
the opportunity to see that we still have power money talk.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yes, And you know what, one of the things I've
loved about the Kimmel and Disney story is Bob Iger,
who had been considered a very good CEO, who had
been considered a guy.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Who was a was a.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Smart, ethical ceo. He pulls this and everyone's shock was
like bob Iger, even Bob Iger gave in to these people.
But you know what America did. Viewers like you guys
did the audience said no. So Disney Suddenly, three days
after they do this, their stock equity, their equity are

(16:05):
their market cap, excuse me, is down four point seven
billion dollars. Millions of people have canceled Disney Plus, and
the parks are empty. This is called markets, and markets work.
Markets send loud signals. So the idea that Donald Trump

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had in his head, which was, Okay, my guys will
take Kimmel off the air, it'll send a signal to Disney.
They They've already paid me fifteen million dollars in the
bullshit ABC lawsuits, so they'll pay me more. The Disney folks,
the board and Bob Iger realized that America was not
with them. That Trump is a minority president leading a

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minority party. They may have the seats, but they are
a minority of the country by a Long, Long Way
and their client tele their audience said, no, folks, this
is a really important message about being active with your
with your wallet, voting with your wallet matter. It sends
a signal because that Disney had a hypothetical damage Trump

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could do to them, but the American people said, oh, no,
we will. We're going to teach you a lesson instead.
So here's how this is going to work. They may
hate it, but it hit him hard. It hit him
in the face. I am here for it.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
As am I And if you look at the timeline
of it, I think going back to thinking about the
fact that because that shows how big of a loss
this is for Trump because he had been targeting Jimmy
Kimmel for months before.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yes, Kate, it's been a while, right, you have you
that you have that.

Speaker 6 (17:44):
Yeah, let's let's look at some of these bringing me
over here. Stay out of there, Kate. So this this
tweet is from July or this post on truth Social
After Stephen Colbert lost his show, he said, I hear
Kimmel is next, and then here people are saying.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Many people say to me, sir, Kimmel is next.

Speaker 6 (18:12):
Yeah. So then his FCC chair Brendan Carr last week
went on Benny Johnson's podcast and said this about Jimmy Kimmel.

Speaker 9 (18:23):
But Frankly, when you see stuff like this, I mean, look,
we can do this the easy way or the hard way.
These companies can find ways to change conduct, to take
action frankly on Kimmel or you know, there's gonna be
additional work for the FCC. Again, there's actions that we
can take on licensed broadcasters. And frankly, I think that
it's it's it's really sort of pastime that a lot

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of these license broadcasters themselves push back on comcasts in
Disney and say, listen, we are going to pre MP.
We're not gonna run Kimmel anymore until you straighten this out,
because we, we license broadcaster are running the possibility of
find or licensed reputation from the FCC if we continue
to run content that ends up being a pattern of

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news distortions.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
So so you know, the way, the easy way of
the hot.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Right.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Here's the other thing about about Brendan Carr. Though I
can tell you this is a guy who's both then
on the receiving and delivering into a punch in my wife,
that guy has never been hit in his life.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
He's never been in a fight.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
One time in the time that we would want him
to be hit y'all now' I'm.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Not saying anybody should hit him. I can just tell
you that's the kind.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Of punk, bitch, whiny, little inside snake boy that makes
up most of the MAGA guys they front, that's all.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Like, oh, we're so musculine, hard to you, and ninety
percent of them are like that guy.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
He has never he has never had to either put
somebody on the floor or gotten put on the floor
in a fight. And you know, there's a certain moral
benefit to have in your ass kicked at some point.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
He never had.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
I was my dad would say he thinks he's slick
like that would be the way my dad would refer
to it, because you can even says he's saying it.
He's issuing instructions in this warning, and he's so just
like about it, as if somehow he's getting one over
on everyone, as if it's not incredibly clear what he's
doing in this thinly veiled threat. And again, I think

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it just shows how sinister the Trump administration is because
they think they can do it out in the open
all the time.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
They don't usually get away with it.

Speaker 6 (20:35):
They don't have to be consistent. Because before we continue
with this Jimmy Kimmel timeline, I would like to flash
back to this twenty nineteen tweets from Brendan Carr about
what the absence you should and should not do?

Speaker 2 (20:49):
There you go, Yeah, not a Roan branding to police
speech in the name of And so it's so interesting
to me how many of the officials in the Trump
administration now completely contradict themselves, just showing this loyalty, this
fealty to Trump as opposed to the Constitution itself in
a time where we have receipts like that's to be

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was so just like about.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
It, Like right, this was such an obvious play. It
was so obviously dumb how they were doing it. You're like, wait,
you know we're here, right, We're in the room.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
Well, so this this play I want to explain for
anyone who doesn't know, although I do think that it's
made its way around now. Which is that next star
in Sinclair? Which are is it? Next star in Sinclair?
Nextar in Tegna?

Speaker 3 (21:40):
It's next Star wants to buy Tegna?

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
And so Claire wants to buy somebody.

Speaker 6 (21:48):
Else, so they have a lot of business these mergers.
There's a law on the books with the FCC that
as like a broadcast distributor, you cannot reach I think
more than thirty nine percent of American households. And these
mergers would make it so that these companies would reach

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something like eighty percent of American households. So they need
fc the FCUC to change the rules so that they
can go through with this business. So so they have
to kiss the ring. I believe, why, yes, that is why.
Earlier this week, after Disney came back and said, like

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we changed our mind, Kimmel can go back on TV.
Next Star in Sinclair, which together reached like most of
the country said that they would not broadcast Kimmel.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
You know the great thing about that is, I think
as we all know here, but but so, just so
the rest of America understands, this broadcast television is like
the buggy whip of the American media economy. It is
it is an audience that is old and getting older,

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It is dying off at a at a high rate
of speed, and the belief that these are super valuable properties.
It is it is on the boomer Clock, and as
they go, it goes.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
People get their news from this thing.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
I love that you called it the boomer clock. It's
like doomsday, but like boomer.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Like, it's just taking.

Speaker 6 (23:35):
The Let's like wrap up the timeline in this so
I can let you guys pick it apart. There was,
you know, this sort of deluge of conservative media figures
and politicians going on TV and saying like, this was
not Trump stepping in, this was not censorship. They all
went on TV and said that this was purely a
business decision and that Kimmel like wasn't making any money.

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I'm going to play a friend of the show. Bryan
Tayler Cohen tweeted out this video montage earlier this week
showing this messaging. I've never heard them care about the
Constitution so much, their First Amendment, first Amendment.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
This has nothing to do with the First Amendment. This
has to do with the business decision, as.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
You noted, So the decision to suspend that I suspect
eventually cancel Kimmel is a business decision by ABC.

Speaker 9 (24:24):
But similar to Kimmel, he's getting the boot because well
he was just bad for business.

Speaker 10 (24:29):
You can like or not like Disney's decision on Kimmel.
But until I see proof of actual government coercion of
their decision, this is about Disney making a business decision
about its brand.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yeah, that was a that was obviously a business decision,
as evidenced by the fact they're going to reinstadium.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
I think he's going to be on the air later tonight.
So I think it was a business decision.

Speaker 11 (24:52):
And if ABC wants to suspend you because you got
wrong the assassin of Charlie Kirk, more power to them.
That's got nothing to do with the First Amendment. That's
a business decision.

Speaker 6 (25:05):
And then Donald Trump went on truth Social and contradicted them.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Completely, all of them.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
I did it, and I'll do it again. I leave
the two of you to discuss.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
First of all, Donald Truff loves to tell on himself.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
It's his favorite thing to do.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
He's like the guy is like he always confesses his sins,
either through projection or admission.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah, he's like the kid who came a secret.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
Like he's just like tell.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
He's like, oh, I want to see something cool. There's
a dead guy down by.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
The river, exactly that. And so this business decision language,
it feels like an exercise in neuro linguistic processing, Like
we will program this into the minds of the people
that this is a business decision.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
And we will just getting very sleepy and thinking about
a business decision.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Right and seeing it cut together like that, I think
is so important because we oftentimes seem to think that
these organizations are not working in cohort, but they obviously are,
which is why it's so dangerous for Sinclair Next Star
to be able to have as many eyeballs on the stations.
Because this is also about you.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Know, it is always folks.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Every single time they will project whatever they're projecting on
the other side of the political fence is what they're doing.
And look their idea that somehow Joe Biden censored conservatives.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
I remain stunned.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
I would like to see somewhere in that four years
where any of them were censored, because you know, they
are a group of people who cannot shut their f
and mouths.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
They're always like, I've been silenced, I've been canceled. I'm like,
why do I keep hearing you talking?

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Then?

Speaker 4 (27:04):
If you are so slight?

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Why, yeah, why are you still running your mouth? Hole?

Speaker 6 (27:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Laura lumer Oh they're trying to cancel me. They're trying
to cancel you because you uh started calling Jasmine Crockett
Shanikua and homegirl. That's why they're trying to cancel you.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
True, I need her.

Speaker 6 (27:22):
To go the lightning ground.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Oh okay, well we'll leave it for now.

Speaker 6 (27:28):
We'll get to her.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
We're coming.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
But it's so clear that in order for the Trump
administration to do what they are trying to do, they
need to own the truth. They are trying to own
it more than He owns truth. Social Like, just keep
in mind, this is all this is is they're trying
to break and fracture our understanding of the truth because
then they can push forward whatever lie they want to
push forward. And so again, our reality has to be

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a shared reality in order to have a democracy that functions.
And so for them it's a win win. The more
lies they tell on the more stations, the more algorithms
that they can control, the better for them, the worse
for us, which is why we Our solution has to
be figuring out ways to ground ourselves in truth over
and over and over again, which is why they go
after comedians because comedians are famously truth tellers.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
By the way, the other thing that's happened, speaking of
going after people who tell the truth, the other thing
that happened is Trump is threatened to sue me for
a billion dollars.

Speaker 6 (28:28):
Yeah, isn't a different one? Please tell me this is
not a different one from from the one.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
No, this is the other. This is the same one.

Speaker 6 (28:37):
Okay. I was gonna say, if there are two, No
one told.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
It's not a new one. It's the same one.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
What are billion dollars?

Speaker 2 (28:45):
And because anybody who tells the truth is obviously a
threaten anybody who is unafraid to tell the truth, which
is why they hate Jasmine Crockett. I know we'll get
to her again. Oh yeah, Like they do not want
any anybody who has the power to punch through this
reality that they are trying to create for their base,

(29:06):
and so they're going to constantly target. Uh. The fact
that they're going after all of the white male comedians,
I think is actually what made everybody sort of come
together real quick.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
I've never seen we're going to come after next.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
They're going to go after Rogan next. You watch he's
off the reservation. He is running running free exactly.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
Well, he's been.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Oh yeah, and the event speaking his mind uh so
much that the DHS actually pulled the tweet that they
tried to uh involve him in their absolute cruel deportation porn.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
So the whole Trump social media universe in the administration,
they are all obviously a bunch of in cell dipshits
who like, I'm an edge reward.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Oh stop once again.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
The benefits of when you're growing up being in a
fight for once in your life. These these it's so
punky and and and and small. They really they really,
I mean, and look it's the avon as powerful as
a president. No, but he certainly helped make one.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
So I mean, the fact the podcast wars, which is
what it feels like. I mean, you even have a
Favreau uh fighting with jd Vance like.

Speaker 6 (30:31):
Oh, don't worry, that's what we talk about.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
The fact Wow is going to kill it tonight.

Speaker 6 (30:38):
Is sorry. I did want to make sure that we
got to the piece that we put out about this
whole Kimmel thing.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Oh, the cancel culture. Let's run that, yeah, and then
we'll move on.

Speaker 8 (30:51):
I will also sign an executive order to immediately stop
all government censorship and bring back free speech to America.

Speaker 5 (31:06):
Shop waves across Hollywood tonight after ABC announced it was
indefinitely pulling Jimmy Kimmel live off the air.

Speaker 12 (31:12):
They told us the cancel culture was the left's weapons.
But look around, it's the right doing the canceling Now.
The FCC chair A Trump ally at tax Kimmel on
a mega podcast.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
I mean, look, we can do this in the easy
way or the hardware.

Speaker 9 (31:26):
These companies can find ways to change conduct the big
action or you know there's gonna be additional work for
the SEC.

Speaker 12 (31:33):
Ahead within hours. Next to our polls is show billions
of dollars and political favors hanging in the ballance, the
timing of shading.

Speaker 10 (31:41):
It's not the fragility of audiences, it's the fragility of leaders.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
How many doesn't change the world, but it's a bell weapon.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
We're the banana peel and the coal mark.

Speaker 7 (31:51):
When a society is under threat, comedians are the ones
who get sent away from it.

Speaker 12 (31:56):
This isn't about Jimmy Kimmel. It's about the government turning
into a mop to silence descent.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
This morning, President Trump is suggesting the Federal Communications Commission should.

Speaker 10 (32:06):
Take licenses away from broadcasters that are repeatedly.

Speaker 12 (32:09):
Critical of him about power crushing free speech.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
We'll all see where this is going. Correct, it's managed media.
You can't go around firing somebody.

Speaker 8 (32:19):
Because you're fearful or trying to suck up to an authoritarian,
criminal administration in the Oval Office.

Speaker 12 (32:27):
Authoritarians don't just come for comedians.

Speaker 9 (32:30):
We're not done yet, that.

Speaker 12 (32:31):
Come for democracy itself. We're the Lincoln Project. We won't
quit join us.

Speaker 6 (32:44):
That's a great piece.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yeah, a true statement.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
I absolutely love that, because before we wrap up this segment,
I just want to point out that Trump immediately in
an interview on the Lawn just targeted ABC and so
he is is consistently showing that they are not the
party of free speech that they claim to be, and
so I think they've lost all ability to ever play

(33:12):
the free speech card again. Ever, never want to seem
to do it.

Speaker 6 (33:18):
Yeah, I mean, there's so much more we could say
about this, Rick. I know that you've done Lincoln Project
podcast episodes about this. I know you've been on your socials.
So I would encourage every in the audience who is
like not done talking about this to go check out
that content. But we have to move on because a
lot did happen, including Trump's visit to the UN and

(33:38):
escalator gate. Would you guys like to start with escalator
gate or the speech.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
I'll let you pick, you know, as Ryan Wiggins our
cheap of staff at the Lincoln Projects seat of that
photograph of Milania looking back at Trump the second the
elevator stopped, she said, I don't hate anyone as much
as she hates the sky. The look the Milania look
was like I did hold for husband Bobby.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
He was so angry. It was so embarrassing.

Speaker 6 (34:09):
So this is Trump trying to get on the escalator
at the UN and it stops immediately when he gets
on it. And they they tried to blame this on
the UN staff and say it was like it was
a conspiracy and all these things, and then also that
they screwed up the teleprompter. Turns out that a White

(34:31):
House staffer who would run ahead of him like inadvertently
pressed the button. Yeah, and also that the White House
staff was responsible for running the teleprompter. So I'm not
sure about all that, but Jesse Ware, I'm.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Ready for I was who was it Nancy Mace or
somebody who was like, oh, like there's.

Speaker 6 (34:49):
Like a tweet wall circulating about it. But I would
like to play the Fox News response to escalator gate,
if you guys don't mind, and then I'll let you go.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
What's going on with the escalator?

Speaker 12 (34:59):
What do you think?

Speaker 10 (35:00):
Yeah, they sabotaged them, and they could have hurt the
first lady.

Speaker 12 (35:04):
Yeah, Trump would have fallen and would have gotten back up,
but you know they would.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
Have blamed it on his rhetoric.

Speaker 11 (35:11):
And then they sabotaged the teleprompter.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Yeah, I mean, this isn't This is.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
An insurrection, and what we need to do is either
leave the un or we need to vomit.

Speaker 6 (35:23):
It is in New.

Speaker 8 (35:23):
York though, right, Yeah, I could do some.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Fall out there, right, So he's not only just saying vomit,
but then he says fallout, which is only the artifact
of a nuclear weapon. So we've got Brian kill Me
wanting to lethally inject homeless people and kill them. And
now we've got Donnie dipshit whatever his name is, wanting
to nuke Turtle Bay in Manhattan.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Well, and they're like, it's a joke. Let's they're going
to say, ha ha, we were laughing it's a joke.
But I decided I decided to spend some time, especially
when I was watching the UN speech, Trump's UN speech.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
As well as this clip.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
I decided to watch it from the perspective of somebody
who loves Fox News, who eats, sleeps, and breathes Fox News,
and I decided to have that lens.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
And when I have that lens, this shit is really
fucking scary.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Because they hear it and they go sabotage. It is sabotage,
and these are evil people who are trying to take
down our first lady. They want to hurt our first
on the escalator, like that level of programming into people's

(36:35):
day to day because a lot of the people who
watch Fox News, as you know, have it on all
day long. They're they're not just hearing it from Jesse Waters,
They're not just hearing it from Brian kill Me.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
They're hearing these things.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Day like, throughout the day, for non stop, NonStop, and
so of course the brains are twitching out and they're like, yeah,
uh uh, yeah, we actually have to stop this violent.
He called it an insurrection, and again he's gonna say
it was a joke. Well he's not, because nobody's gonna
you know, call him out for it, of course. Uh,

(37:06):
But this is the I think sometimes, and this is
because I did. We had a couple of weeks away.
I had an opportunity to just be like, I'm gonna
look at the world the way Maggie looks at the
world for a while and see, uh, and see what
I see. And I think this is why it's important
to watch, uh watch the UN uh Trump's speech at
the UN.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
With that in mind, So can we yeah, can we
play that.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Just as we must?

Speaker 8 (37:32):
I should. I can tell you I'm really good at
this stuff. Your countries are going to hell. In America,
we've taken bold action to swiftly shut down uncontrolled migration.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
And so hearing that from the perspective of a Fox
News lover of a Trump lover, they're going, yeah, this
is a strong man who is letting other countries know
that he wants their country to be great again, like
America is great again. And so this is how they're
able to kind of coalesce behind this framing, this narrative,

(38:09):
which is false. It's substantially false. It's never backed up
by any data. But these people don't need any data,
so to believe what they believe. And but again, like
this is I think part of the reason why we're
in this trouble that we're in is because people are
living in these two very different realities.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
And I think for a lot of us, because we are.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
One it's called reality and the other is called.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Exactly Rick, And so I'm gonna spend more time trying
to surf back and forth between reality, our actual reality
that's based in truth and data and science and facts and.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
What is going on in Magaland I'm gonna be like
Donnie dark not Donnie Darko. Is it Donny Brosco going in?
Let Donnie Brasco, let me know.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
When you get too into the role, I'll let you know,
pull me out, pull you out.

Speaker 6 (39:05):
Rick, as our resident foreign policy expert, can you explain
why this is bad? I mean, we all know it's bad,
But in what number of ways is it bad to
have a dementia adult United States president standing before the
UN saying things like that?

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Well, I mean, look, first off, the speech itself was
not a speech about American foreign policy. It was to
generate what Maya said food chain clips for the Fox
audience to.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
So strong Trump strong. That's what they were after but
the rest of the world looked at this and said,
that's it.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
The American experiment, the American leadership in the world is
in the rearview mirror. Let me tell you who's the
most delighted by that speech.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
The g of China.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
They're going to dominate were knowable energy, gonna dominate medicine
and pharmaceuticals. You're gonna dominate technology and electronics. Trump's vision
of the world is transactional. It is shallow, it is dumb.
I'll just deal with people I like.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
It's not how the world works. It's a tough place.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
You gotta deal with people you don't like, you gotta
make deals with people you dislike. You've got to put
the needs of people first once in a while, instead
of like, who's gonna kiss my ass the most effectively,
It's got to be what's best for America, what's best
for American citizens, what's best for the world. Trump doesn't
believe in any of those things.

Speaker 5 (40:35):
And so that's one of the reasons that this speech
was so profoundly embarrassing to this country.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
And another big part of this.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
This humiliation, because that's what it is, folks. It is
a outright humiliation of our country. He sent a very
clear message that that Grandpa's still around, but he's gonna
sit in the bar at the VFW and tell war
stories may or may not be true stories, but he's

(41:05):
gonna do what he wants to do. This was just
a Trump. This could have been at any Trump rally.
It could have been at any any Trump you know ramble,
and you know he's not there anymore. In the same way,
this is not the Donald Trump that we went up
against in twenty twenty. He's not the Donald Trump that
he was a year ago.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Folks.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
This is a fading This is a This is like
a dying star, and it may get a little hotter
and crazier as it collapses once and for all. But
this is still a guy who is leading his party
into an extinction event because he will not be here forever,
and that speech will go down as something that is
a grim embarrassment and another US president someday we'll have

(41:49):
to get up there on that podium and say, oh,
by the way, I'm sorry, I've been so busy. I
had to clean up two terms of this guy wrecking
the world and the country.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Yeah, I have to think about what was going through
the minds of everyone who is forced to sit in
that room and listen to him for well over an hour.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
They couldn't do it at.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Two x speed the way I did, which is what
made it. I think I actually ended up pushing it
to two point five x. It's sad like it used
to make me angry, and now I look at it
and I go, so much opportunity is being lost right now.
We have to think about the opportunity costs of having

(42:30):
Trump lead our nation right now. There is so much
innovation that is being lost out on and that's time
that we're never going to get back. You pointed that
out with the innovations that China is going to be
just going so far ahead of us a breakneck speed,
while we're arguing over manufactured problems, while we're trying to

(42:53):
call half of our country back to the truth. And
so in that room, all of those people sitting around,
and I'm thinking of the countries that need our assistance
perhaps or need to do business with US, versus countries
who are going, oh, yes, great, America is no longer
going to be an issue keeping us from obtaining what

(43:15):
we need to obtain for our goals, and so this
isn't America first, Like there was nothing about that speech
that was America first.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
And it's sad. It's just sad, you.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Know, it really is.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
And none of it, none of it has to be
this way. But if you were led by a dementia adult,
weirdo power mad guy with a very sloppy intellectual process,
you're going to get a speech like that.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
And the interesting thing.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
About about all this, like the last i'd say two months,
you're starting to see the twenty twenty eight aspirants playing
their hand. Jdie Vance putting his nose into everything, Marco
Rubio trying to lead you on all these like the
Venezuela war.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
I was gonna say, we we haven't talked about how
many boats they've blown up in the last frickin' Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
I mean, it's a country where if if you can
disappear people in the US, you'll do it if you
can just think sink boats on the flimsiest of pretexts.
None of you watching the show is probably old enough
to get this this reference. But you know when when
when Johnson wanted to rev up Vietnam the Gulf of Tonkin,

(44:32):
there was one legitimate attack on some US ships, but
the whole it wasn't like a It wasn't like the
mobilization of the entire Russian fleet and the Vietnamese fleet
against US. This is their Gulf of Tonkin. They're they're,
they're they're starting a war on a on a lie,
which you know has happened before. But but it makes

(44:53):
the intelligence about Iraq w m d S look rock
solid in comparison. So well, and look, they're they they are,
they're they're a a administration staff by wanna bees and
corrupt people and criminals and and and it plays out
all the time, and they're criminals protecting themselves and other criminals.

Speaker 6 (45:18):
Well said, I hate to have us move on, but again,
so much to cover, and I want us to have
some time to really dig into the meaning of this
new executive order. So Trump sign an executive order this
week designating Antifa as a terrorist group. Now that doesn't
legally mean anything, but I don't know that that matters anymore.

(45:43):
And the way that this executive order is worded is
basically to say that anyone who protests the administration in
any way can be accused of being a domestic terrorist
and prosecuted as such. So where do we go from here?

Speaker 2 (46:01):
See you, guys, I was gonna say, so help me.

Speaker 6 (46:05):
I don't know what to do now.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Well, I'm waiting for the raid on Antifa tower when
they arrest the ANTIFA board of directors and the Antifa
and the Antifa recruiting officers in the Antifa training center.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
Because there's no fucking Antifa people.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Yeah, I feel like it doesn't have any Antifa teeth.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
Antifa that was almost you almost had it.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
I saw where the joke was going.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
It doesn't have any teeth.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Okay, I don't see how they could prosecute anyone. This
is clearly just to intimidate people and to try to
They're just trying to silence everyone as quickly as possible.
They know big protests are coming. I think there's a
big protest being planned for mid October, another No King's protest,
and so the administration knows that people coming out in

(46:54):
full force. Every time that happens, it reminds people that
the people do have the power, and so they're trying
to get ahead of it by scaring people into silence,
and it's not working. I think that's what is I'm
really enjoying about right now is people like, uh, who's
the influencer who's running for office in one of the

(47:15):
congressional districts in Illinois. She got thrown to the ground
by an ice. Yeah. People are out in the streets,
they're protesting, their standing up, and no one is really
truly intimidated by this. I think it's a show of force,

(47:36):
but that's it. It's a show of force.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
And but there's no teeth to it. There's no teeth
and teeth Tifa.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Look, I will say this, there is a very strong
it's a very.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Strong argument that this will drive even more people out.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
They will people.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
People are starting to understand the protest model now has
caused him trouble. And so if you're going to go
to the no Kings thing, you should hope they try
to arrest you, because what's happening in DC right now
where they're making all these bogus arrests and grand juries
are like, no, no, we're not going to indict you.

(48:20):
The judge, Janine and Pam Bondi and all these other idiots.
I think that would scale across the country. You would
start getting grand juries who would say no, because Rick
Wilson goes to a No King's protest in Tallahassee, Florida,
does not mean he's a domestic terrorist. They will try
to push that, but I don't think it's going to
go I think they could end up creating something much

(48:43):
worse for themselves. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
They try to attack all of our basic rights at
different different angles, and so freedom to assemble. I think
people have been doing that since the beginning of time,
really truly, and it is one of the foundations of
our democracy.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
So the fact that they think people.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Are just going to say, you know what, we're just
going to pack it in because of this Antifa thing
you puta executive.

Speaker 6 (49:09):
Okay, guys, is it already time? Is it already time
for the Lightning Round?

Speaker 3 (49:18):
Yeah, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
The kind of thing you the fans want to see
and hear in the Lightning roundy Thursday.

Speaker 6 (49:25):
Kate, listen, a bunch of crazy shit that happened, and
Maya and Rico, what.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
Let's do it?

Speaker 3 (49:31):
I hate.

Speaker 6 (49:35):
I'm going to start it with like the crazy thing
about one that we've been off for as long as
we have been into just the times that we've been
living in is that in any other universe, much like
the universe that Rick was vacationing in aka this universe,
but just in another country. These would be entire episodes.
I had originally allocated a whole segment for our first

(49:55):
Lightning round item Tom Holman's fifty thousand dollars bribe. He
alleged we accepted a fifty thousand dollars cash bribe in
a kava bag that is the build your own bowl
Mediterranean place to be clear, and Pam Bondi's Justice apartment
shut down.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
I am shocked to discover this. Am I am astounded
to discover that Pam Bondy was too busy chasing imaginary
Antifa terrorists to either release the Epstein files or indict
a guy who literally took a bribe on video in

(50:32):
order to promise that when he got to the DHS
he would provide inside information and services to the people
bribing him with fifty thousand dollars in a paper sack.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
How are we going to let corruption get in the
way of all this corruption?

Speaker 1 (50:47):
I say, you know what, guys, in my youth, on
my youth, a guy tried to hand me a paper
sack to give to an elected official I was working for,
and I at that moment thought, God, the FBI has
got to be doing this. This can't be real. This
can't be real. And I literally like put my hands
around my like like chestlas. I'm like, sorry, WD, I

(51:08):
can't take that money because I thought this guy's got
to be wearing a fucking wire. Nobody's nobody's just crazy
to hand me a greasy white sack from from a
from a diner in Tallahassee full of cash to give
to my elected to the member that I worked for.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
It was insane.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Maybe it was in a kava bag so he could
say that it was just his lunch.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
Like he's like, I just like Mediterranean dishes.

Speaker 6 (51:32):
This was not a bribe.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
I'm pretty sure Tom Homan only eats white foods in
the starch family.

Speaker 6 (51:40):
There was like a naive question, is it is it
common practice that bribes are given in food packaging? Because
there was a lightning round item from weeks ago. Was
that and Eric Adam is one of his officials, chip
bag someone in the.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Chip bag bag?

Speaker 6 (51:57):
Yeah, obviously how you arribe? Like do you do it?

Speaker 2 (52:00):
And I'm asking you know, listen, but you don't put
it in a metal briefcase with a chain on it.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
And local modality should be for bribes.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
But here's the thing, if you're doing a bribe for
five figures, what are you even thinking? If you're going
to take a bribe, make sure there's a B in
front of the ilions instead of an M. The amazing
thing is taking a bribe over I don't know what
the federal limit is.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
I think it's like over one thousand dollars or something.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
If you're gonna make if you're gonna take a bribe,
get something out of it. I mean, at least Trump
has the ambition like put two hundred million dollars in
my son's crypto. That's a bribe. But this fifty grand
It proves one thing about Tom woman. He's a grubby,
trashy apparatic.

Speaker 6 (52:56):
Next lightning round item, Trump occured to accidentally tweet a
DM meant for Pam Bondi, telling her to hurry up
and prosecute his enemies. He then deleted it and then
posted it again because everyone was like, oh, he deleted it,
so it was definitely a DM, and he was like, no,
I didn't, then posted it again.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Hey, who among us? Who is not familiar with how
to use social media because we use it thirty times
a day, has not accidentally sent a DM to millions
of people.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
A multi paragraph DM.

Speaker 6 (53:28):
It's like nine watergates every single day.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
It is Pam, Pam is.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Is not doing well in the Trump verse right now,
and he has his eye on this new woman, Lindsay
Halligan as the new pretty little thing in front of him.
And he does not think that Pam Is. I mean
what he said in that in that message was what
he feels. He does not think she has prosecuted, excuse me,

(53:57):
persecuted Brennan Komy all these other people. And they're starting
to indict them. But guess what, I'm betting you you're
gonna get grand juries who go nope, thank you.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Mm hmmm. Well, and I think they're also probably having
a hard time finding enough prosecutors to go after, Like
they can only have so many people who were willing you.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
You got Martin, you got ed Martin, who would who
would set himself on fire and put it out with
a hammer for Trump, But but none of them are
particularly good at their work.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Yeah, and also this also slides by and like nobody's
asking about this like not a single reporter is saying, Hey,
so that d M that you accidentally sent to Pam BONDI, Like,
could somebody ask about that?

Speaker 6 (54:42):
Right? How did you end up in the lightning round?

Speaker 3 (54:44):
It's Rusher Russier, Russia, Russia.

Speaker 6 (54:47):
Hooks lighting round.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Next one, next question?

Speaker 6 (54:52):
Yes, the uh the big announcement by Trump and RFK
Junior that Thailand all causes autism a lot people.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
What can be said about it is that Robert F.
Kennedy will kill us all.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Yeah, the World Health Organization had to actually issue a
freaking statement like you know things are bad when like
the entire world is like that thing that your president
and health secretary just did is dumb. They're dumb. Don't
listen to them. Don't listen to them, and then provide
actual stuff like it's insane that they think people don't

(55:33):
understand the difference between correlation and causation, right, and and
then are pushing a well, by the.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Way, the medicine that doctor Oz thinks treats pilonol poisoning
and that causes autism, Doctor Oz, you'll be shocked to
learn has an outside company that sells that that something straight.

Speaker 6 (55:54):
In RFK and all these people that are all stakeholders.
The means simple that are follow the money, all the money.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
There there will come a day. There will come a
day when when when we start seeing in this country,
like in Florida, the Surgeon General makes r f K
look responsible.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
In Florida, they are ending childhood vaccinations. They're gonna get there.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
They're going to They're going to it's no longer like
the mandate is going to go away for insurance companies
to provide coverage for it. They're going to ban them
the next legislative session in Florida. There are two people
already I've heard this from inside the Florida House that
have bills to ban measles, mumps, and rubella vaccines for children,

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to ban the polio vaccine.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
Can I live?

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Can I say something about your surgeon General.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
Doctor Joseph Latipoe is a fraud? Yes.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
I feel like the reason MAGA believes in DEI is
because the black people that they mostly expose are exposed
to are people like him. I'm sorry, like Hearshal Walker, like,
of course you think black people are dumb and didn't
deserve the positions that they have, because those are the
black people that you hang out with.

Speaker 6 (57:14):
Can I say that, Well, we're talking about people with
a lower cognitive processing ability, we might as well move.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Herschel Walker's your boy, right.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
Where's he been?

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Remember when Nikki Haley endorsed him like she was.

Speaker 6 (57:30):
Like, really somewhere? I want to I want to say
one more thing about this taiwanhyll thing because it makes me.
It makes me angry on so many levels. It makes
me angry as a woman that they're trying to push
this thing that pregnancies have to be painful to be
safe and to be effective, and that like women need
to suffer to incubate babies. Every study, we haven't said it.

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It's been said everywhere and we shouldn't have to say it.
Every exhaustive study has proven that Taiwanhol is safe to
take during pregnancy. And because of this, women, not even
like Maha women will be afraid to take taiwan Al
during their pregnancies because somebody said that it could harm
their child and it could potentially give the child autism.

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And I have I have a lot of autistic people
in my life. I have my family members, people that
I grew up with, and parents of autistic children. I
it just it. It makes me so angry that they
are taking advantage of this group of parents that has,

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you know, been been handed the challenge of raising children
of a child or children with disabilities and taking advantage
of their fears and their exhaustion and trying to tell
them that you know that their children are broken and
need to be fixed. And some of these parents, like
they his mothers walk around and ask like did I

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do something during the pregnancy that made it so that
my child has to suffer and to struggle? And it's
all it's going back to like blaming these mothers and
taking advantage.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
There are about one hundred genes in the human genome
that have been so far associated with autism, ADHD spectrum disorders.
There is no research that indicates that TYLERL interacts with
those at scale.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
There's no research.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
There is research that certain other drugs can, but that
tilnol is not that in that classification.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
I will say, this.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Is a very grim subject and very tough subject. But
I have a friend who's on the spectrum and he
sent me a he's pretty pretty on the spectrum. He
sent me a note today and he said, you know,
my mom took talool when I was when I was
a baby, but I'm on the spectrum.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
It wasn't because she took tylanol. He goes. And by
the way, if.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Tilnold did cause autism, we would have anational high speed
rail system because I love trains and he's he's very
much aware of what he who he is.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
But I was like, God, bless you man, give your
mom my love.

Speaker 6 (01:00:11):
But the training systems in this country would would rival
that of Japan.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
And absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 6 (01:00:20):
We had more autistic people, and we should have more
autistic people because I do love trains.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
I was gonna say, I'm obsessed with trains and but
stigmatizing autism while at the same time also taking away
the five oh four programs, and they're just gutting the
support that autistic students.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Have in Thanks Big bad Bill.

Speaker 6 (01:00:40):
I mean my I have family members who rely and
this this is all they They want to do anything
but help autistic people like I have family members that
rely on Medicaid to get benefits. Like these are not
old people, these are these are autistic young adults and
they're they're trying to figure out if those benefits are

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going to be taken away, but maybe, you know, maybe
if their mother had not taken tie in all when
she was pregnant, everything would be fine. Like it's it's
so sick to me people.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
Here's the fundamental thing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
RFK has put in charge of the health and Human
services a group of colossal grifters, scam artists, criminals, thieves,
paramid schemers, multi level marketing scumbags, conspiracy theorist koops, et cetera.
And they are they are going to cause an untold

(01:01:33):
amount of suffering in this country. And it's just getting started.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
And I'm so glad that you said it's just getting started, right,
because I think people have a hard time understanding that
this is going to be a delayed effect. So so
many things that the Trump administration is doing is going
to hit people's lives a year from now, two years
from now. And so there's an article in Atlantic month later,
which I still haven't managed to finish, but about how
authoritarianism everything looks normal and fine for a while, Like
in Venezuela, everything seemed fine.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Until it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
And I don't want people to sleep walk themselves into
authoritarianism because everyone, it's so many people. I keep saying
until I see someone on LinkedIn screaming, I want somebody
in middle management and marketing who is just the most
a political person, and I want that person screaming about
fascism in a professional setting. And that's what I'll believe

(01:02:24):
that people are taking the threat seriously before it's actually
too late.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
You know, you mentioned Venezuela of course right now, and
I just want to I want to insert my own
lightning round entry. We were told that when Javier Malay
took over Argentina to run it like a libertarian techbro
bitcoin paradise, that it would instantly come back as a
global economic power. And yet now we're going to have

(01:02:50):
to bail out Argentina. Yeah, we're not going to bail
out our farmers or middle class Americans are getting screwed
by inflation, or or Americans who are paying four bucks
a gallon for gas. But we are going to bail
out the bitcoin bros who invested in Argentina.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Thinking it was going to become a crypto paradise.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
I'm so glad that you said this as somebody as
a friend I know you, yeah, as.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
A former permanent resident of Argentina. When Malay started saying afoida, alfoida.
That is when he was going to, you know, do
the Doge thing before the Doge thing became the Doge thing,
and cut all these government agencies, and that this was
it was just going to be austerity measures and everything
was going to be great. And so this experiment that
Doge was based on the chainsawing of all of our

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government agencies. Of course, we have to save Argentina because
if Argentina goes to ship, then all of a sudden
people are going to go, oh, wait, is this what
awaits us? And yes, it's what fucking awaits us people.

Speaker 13 (01:03:52):
Because we finished, we're back at let's really actually lightning
runs with the rest of this bang bang everything is okay.

Speaker 6 (01:04:08):
Pentagon top Raft threatened to expel journalists who reported info
not queered by them.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Thirty thousand people work in the Pentagon, two point five
million people in the Department of Defense. They all have
cell phones pete hex, so that can you can bite
my ass.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
It's not going to work, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
And also there if theyre's sending stuff to signal chats
anyway that they shouldn't be, then that's that's on them.
So they should figure out their own leaks, and they
should figure out how to you know, that's not on reporters,
that's on them.

Speaker 6 (01:04:38):
Sure, today there was a fatal shooting at an ice
facility in Dallas, which is bad for a number of reasons.
But the thing that I have listed is that jd
Vance got into a Twitter fight over it with podso
America's John Favreau and called him a dipshit. Real stately
stuff coming from the vice presidents.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Listen, Captain couch fucker can say what he wants, but
the people who got shot at the ice facility were
the Chinese.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Yeah, is Jade Vance auditioning for a podcast or to
be the president? Because I swear to like the amount
of fights.

Speaker 6 (01:05:12):
That he has.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
I think he just wants to be a podcaster.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
Either one, I'll do.

Speaker 6 (01:05:19):
Speaking of fucking insane people on Twitter, is it time
to talk about Laura Luomer's racist tweets? Which one?

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
Do we have another hour?

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:05:31):
Well, let's talk about just one. Which Maya and I
before the show, debated whether or not it was worse
to make a black woman read it or hear a
white woman read it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
I'll read it like this is well that's I was like,
are you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
But I'm gonna go way.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Jasmine Crocketts Jasmine for us, homeboys and homegirls are big mad.
I called her what she is. GETO, I guess I've
gonna watch my back. God forbid. Shanikua pops a cap
in my ass.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
You feels me? Okay, guys, I read it that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Way because it's as genuine as as like the like
the the those white Dare cops used to come to
high schools and say, hello, fellow kids, we have a
rap about how bad the crack cocaine is. I get
she's trying to piss people off and be transgressive and
blah blah blah blah, but everybody should remember one thing

(01:06:27):
about Laura Lumor, and I mean this sincerely. Laura Lumour
is insane. She's she can be a racist and a grubby,
horrible human being, but she's insane. She has been involuntarily
committed by her family. She's crazy town.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
Now go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
I was just saying, I thank you as a black woman.
Let me chime in.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
The fact that she hasn't been banned right the fact
that she is on Twitter x right now saying these
things is an further indication of how far we've just
completely gone off the rails. Because this isn't.

Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
About h solutions.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Right, this isn't when we talk about the algorithm we
talked about, we get surfaced. We know that rage is
what plays on Twitter, and so yes to your point, Rick, like,
she said this because she wants a reaction, the same
way Nancy Mace says the things she says to get
a reaction, and of course it works, they get the reaction,
and then grocery prices still aren't cheaper, energy prices still

(01:07:37):
haven't gone down, prices still have exactly. And so this
idea that somehow Jasmine Crockett is so fragile that she
would feel the need to would just gut her is
just it's insane to me that literally every single because
this woman has the ear of the president, right like

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Laura Lumer hangs out, she went on a tour for
nine to eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Laura Lum, Laura Lumer can hire and fire anyone in
the White House.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Well, as a matter of fact, because I think she
was National Security Agency of staff that she and.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
The presidence National Security Advisor Mike Waltz and and most
of his staff were fired by.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Crazy, crazy woman.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
She's she's insane, and guys, I want more Laura Lumoor
inside Maga because everything about Maga incentivizes Laura Lumers. I
want more of them because the more people like that talk,
the worse it is for them to try to pretend that, oh,
poor Maga, We're just we're just we're just misunderstood, and

(01:08:42):
we've got so many legitimate grievances against the big liberal machine.
Laura Lumoor is Maga. He is definitionly what they are.
She is has two point five million followers on social media.
He is Maga, that is. I want people to see it.
I don't want them to look away. I don't want
to be canceled. I want her out there. And I

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also want her, at some point to be in a
room with Jasmine Crockett, because Jasmine Crockett could whip her
fucking ass. Jasmine Crockett would beat her like a rented mule.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Well, but this is the why I ask myself, where
do we go from here? Because if we cannot have
our like the press just shrugs this kind of stuff
off now because it's so commonplace, and.

Speaker 4 (01:09:28):
Somebody needs to keep bringing it back to the.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Fact like, why are there not? Why is why aren't there?
Like at least ten to fifteen Republican Congress people say like, no,
this is not who we are, this is not what
we do. And the fact that they're not saying that
tells me that they're not at all afraid about the

(01:09:51):
mid terms.

Speaker 6 (01:09:52):
Well look, I mean, yeah, why don't we wrap a
a on a midterm? What can we do? And how
can we talk about all of this crazy shit? Because
we are over time, but I would like us to
wrap that might be possible, take it away.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Look, guys, we had a race last night and I'm
sorry Tuesday night in Arizona. Congress is getting close that
we want. Congress is getting close, getting tight. The models
are still very good. The economic situation is very bad

(01:10:33):
for the Republicans. Trump's numbers are so underwater with everything.
Go watch last Friday's edition of Behind the Numbers with
the Wilson's on YouTube on Lincoln Square. Because Andrew and
I a month before had said he's at the bottom,
it can't go any lower, and yet now he's about
eight points lower. This is a very bad world for

(01:10:55):
these candidates. They are going to have to go out
and say, well, The important thing is transtifa when they're constituents,
when their constituents are, hey, I got you. Where their
constituents are seeing unspinnable grocery prices. They're walking into Target, Walmart,
grocery store, gas station and they're like, holy shit, I'm dying.

(01:11:17):
They're looking at the housing market collapsing in Florida, Georgia, Texas,
North Carolina, Tennessee. They see the badness. They're watching farmers
go out of business. And by the way, putting farmers
out of business is what a lot of JD. Vance's
investment buddies want to do. Just so y'all know that.
Then when he use private equity to buy up America's farms, yeah, the.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Way they bought up the single family homes. And I
do believe that Americans are starting to see that that
is not in their best interest. And what I am
hoping and praying and all of the things meditating on
and putting on my vision board is that we have
I'm just.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
Engaging in pure dark neck romancy.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
I'm still I'm hoping that we have in us that
did oh did the catches walk in?

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
I feel like I just saw that was the old
dog Jilly.

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
I thought i'd like pulled.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
In and now she's on the floor, groaning and farting,
so very very on brand for a German short hair
pointer of her age.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
I just I hope we have it in us to
believe that we're better than what Trump is offering, and
I believe that we do.

Speaker 4 (01:12:29):
I think people might be a little off.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Uh you know, we're a little off like h are
are on these things, but we can come back to
our shared sense of purpose and our shared sense of reality.
That's why the protests are so important, because it galvanizes
us and it reminds us that what the algorithm is
of showing us online isn't actually reality. We're not nearly
as divided on a lot of these things as the

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algorithm is making us think. And so it's important to
just get out there and continue to talk to people
and talk to your neighbor, and not see people as
an enemy, but see it as like, you know, one
nation under God, indivisible, indivisible. We need to be uh one,
come together as one and.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Some people, some people are enemies to witness Stephen Miller
and his wife having to leave Arlington, Virginia because no
one will speak to them or.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
Socialized with them.

Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
As they should.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:13:20):
I want to make sure I get a plug in
for you for this episode of with Miama, who is
the special guest. Oh, well, we we.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
Have a well.

Speaker 4 (01:13:32):
Yeah, uh on Thursday, Thursday.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Night tonight we have I'm on with Michael and Protect
and Serve. But that's not punching up.

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
That's Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
We have a new show series. It's called Protect and Serve.
We're going to be talking about law enforcement. Do you
want me to just keep going it. We're gonna be
talking about what happens when our law enforcement is no
longer serving or protecting anybody, when all of a sudden,
now they're about to defy orders to not wear.

Speaker 4 (01:14:06):
Masks in California.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
So we're gonna be talking to legal experts, in law
enforcement experts, and we're gonna be having a good time
because even though Michael and I are on perhaps different
sides of many things, we have a lot in common,
which is our love for American democracy and uh, and
we're definitely and not antifa but anti fascist.

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
I'm antifa. I'm straight up antifa. I'm straight up like
black mask, I'm all top cocktail Antifa. Come and get
me Trump.

Speaker 6 (01:14:34):
Yeah, is that we're we're over So anything else you
guys want to ask.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
I think we've I think we've inflicted ourselves enough on
the audience for one.

Speaker 6 (01:14:42):
Yeah, I didn't even get through the whole list. But like,
we don't have the time, we don't have that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
But we appreciate y'all for just riding this wave with us.
And we'll see you, see you next week.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
We'll cost some more trouble.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
Yeah, nothing, hap